{"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.5878033951527004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok I just request you to be loud so that I can hear this when am transcribing then remember there is no right or wrong answers and your opinions are very important and we shall keep it confidential, so we need you to be frank or honest as much as you can, ok so let me just know a little bit about you\n\nHow old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "25"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are your qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am an intern pharmacist ...but I graduated last year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You graduated last year?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.875337105725223, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "25"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are your qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am an intern pharmacist ...but I graduated last year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You graduated last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I graduated this year but I finished school last year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Ok and..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.194819006361359, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am an intern pharmacist ...but I graduated last year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You graduated last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I graduated this year but I finished school last year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Ok and..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bachelor of pharmacy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so you came here in lira this year?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.4386877848459543, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I graduated this year but I finished school last year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Ok and..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bachelor of pharmacy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so you came here in lira this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, this year, since October 1st"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "October 1st? You have been here for?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5985419831621712, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bachelor of pharmacy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so you came here in lira this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, this year, since October 1st"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "October 1st? You have been here for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Making 2 months"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "2 months? Ok and then, have you seen any RHD patient coming for maybe medication?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.665046647957968, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, this year, since October 1st"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "October 1st? You have been here for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Making 2 months"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "2 months? Ok and then, have you seen any RHD patient coming for maybe medication?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The ones I have seen have been looking for medication, now that we don’t have a tent, they usually come to the pharmacy, and we are usually on exchange because in the pharmacy, we don’t have the drugs, and they have been reluctant but we have the laxatives like Laxis at maximum stock"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said they have been coming?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7389407199532977, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Making 2 months"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "2 months? Ok and then, have you seen any RHD patient coming for maybe medication?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The ones I have seen have been looking for medication, now that we don’t have a tent, they usually come to the pharmacy, and we are usually on exchange because in the pharmacy, we don’t have the drugs, and they have been reluctant but we have the laxatives like Laxis at maximum stock"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said they have been coming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is wonderful, ok then looking at the demographics for the patients that have been coming for treatment, which age group do they fall into? How do you describe them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.821045244392553, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The ones I have seen have been looking for medication, now that we don’t have a tent, they usually come to the pharmacy, and we are usually on exchange because in the pharmacy, we don’t have the drugs, and they have been reluctant but we have the laxatives like Laxis at maximum stock"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said they have been coming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is wonderful, ok then looking at the demographics for the patients that have been coming for treatment, which age group do they fall into? How do you describe them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they young, are they old. Are they women..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.013636104188337, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they young, are they old. Are they women..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs, most of them ok from the observation, I have not been very observant but from my observation, most of them are ladies, yes and the few are the young kids"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Kids?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Basically there are many who are present"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From your observation, are they in school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.27933621973708755, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, if they are in school, they didn’t go to the advanced level so far"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably past P.7"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "P.7?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not S.4"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not S.4? and then apart from RHD, which other common illnesses are you treating in the pharmacy?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3103735774856528, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably past P.7"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "P.7?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not S.4"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not S.4? and then apart from RHD, which other common illnesses are you treating in the pharmacy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we always receive basing on what is in the hospital, so we treat the patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is most common?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3448595305396142, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not S.4"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not S.4? and then apart from RHD, which other common illnesses are you treating in the pharmacy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we always receive basing on what is in the hospital, so we treat the patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is most common?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What is most common I would say infections because we give out a lot of anti biotics but common among those is peptic ulcers, respiratory infection disease and then sexuality transmitted infection, then some rare cases like T.B infections."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then, how often in a week, how many times do you get prescription for RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4257525068390299, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What is most common I would say infections because we give out a lot of anti biotics but common among those is peptic ulcers, respiratory infection disease and then sexuality transmitted infection, then some rare cases like T.B infections."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then, how often in a week, how many times do you get prescription for RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a week? Hmm like twice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Twice ehh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So let’s say like 2 per week?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4730583409322554, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a week? Hmm like twice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Twice ehh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So let’s say like 2 per week?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes 2 per week"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then So is it mainly the adults who you treat for infections that you get or it’s the pedetriatic/children?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5256203788136171, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So let’s say like 2 per week?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes 2 per week"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then So is it mainly the adults who you treat for infections that you get or it’s the pedetriatic/children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pardon?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Looking at the demographics, do you treat more children than the adults or more adults than the children?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5840226431262412, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes 2 per week"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then So is it mainly the adults who you treat for infections that you get or it’s the pedetriatic/children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pardon?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Looking at the demographics, do you treat more children than the adults or more adults than the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Overall on the desk, we treat more adults than the children because the ped ward is opposite almost half empty most of the time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What explains that? What do you think explains that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6489140479180457, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pardon?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Looking at the demographics, do you treat more children than the adults or more adults than the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Overall on the desk, we treat more adults than the children because the ped ward is opposite almost half empty most of the time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What explains that? What do you think explains that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know exactly maybe it’s the facility or they lack residence because even in the emergency ward, you will and mostly see adults and I have never seen the kids there yeah and that is the matter"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is strange, I thought if you would ask me, I would think it is maybe according to the sick..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7210156087978286, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Overall on the desk, we treat more adults than the children because the ped ward is opposite almost half empty most of the time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What explains that? What do you think explains that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know exactly maybe it’s the facility or they lack residence because even in the emergency ward, you will and mostly see adults and I have never seen the kids there yeah and that is the matter"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is strange, I thought if you would ask me, I would think it is maybe according to the sick..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes that would be the case but the statistics say otherwise because I haven’t gone there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok tell me about your training on RHD, have you ever had any training on RHD management?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8901427269108995, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes that would be the case but the statistics say otherwise because I haven’t gone there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok tell me about your training on RHD, have you ever had any training on RHD management?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Honestly, I have not"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, maybe in school, did they ever tell you anything about management of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0989416381616042, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Honestly, I have not"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, maybe in school, did they ever tell you anything about management of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well in one of those classes when they were talking about clinical pharmacology, they talked about it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They did?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Also you have some clue at least about it, about RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2210462646240046, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well in one of those classes when they were talking about clinical pharmacology, they talked about it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They did?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Also you have some clue at least about it, about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that the clue"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s a clue eh..?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3567180718044494, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Also you have some clue at least about it, about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that the clue"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s a clue eh..?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s not just the clue, the clue will really be in details"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then after the graduation, since graduating, have you ever had any formal training or workshops you have attended where they are talking about RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5074645242271658, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that the clue"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s a clue eh..?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s not just the clue, the clue will really be in details"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then after the graduation, since graduating, have you ever had any formal training or workshops you have attended where they are talking about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I have not heard because before I came here I was working at the facility not a clinic, so we usually had CMEs but RHD has never been discussed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has never appeared? Ok do you think it’s necessary to have one? Or do you find it necessary?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6749605824746285, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s not just the clue, the clue will really be in details"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then after the graduation, since graduating, have you ever had any formal training or workshops you have attended where they are talking about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I have not heard because before I came here I was working at the facility not a clinic, so we usually had CMEs but RHD has never been discussed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has never appeared? Ok do you think it’s necessary to have one? Or do you find it necessary?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it’s because when you are working at the pharmacy, the patients come, at least you should have an idea about every disease because the patient will come and will say I have this, you have to know how to distinguish, is it RHD, is it a cardio myopathy, is it hypertension, and is it cardiac malfunction, so you have to know about a little bit of everything so that you can know which drugs to give and distinguish because they differs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so currently what are you following? You just follow what the doctor have prescribed?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8610673138606983, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I have not heard because before I came here I was working at the facility not a clinic, so we usually had CMEs but RHD has never been discussed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has never appeared? Ok do you think it’s necessary to have one? Or do you find it necessary?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it’s because when you are working at the pharmacy, the patients come, at least you should have an idea about every disease because the patient will come and will say I have this, you have to know how to distinguish, is it RHD, is it a cardio myopathy, is it hypertension, and is it cardiac malfunction, so you have to know about a little bit of everything so that you can know which drugs to give and distinguish because they differs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so currently what are you following? You just follow what the doctor have prescribed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Currently I give based on the duration of the drugs, I always have to consult, why you are giving this one which is longer than it should have been"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so do you mainly see the inpatients or the outpatients that mostly come?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0678525709563313, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it’s because when you are working at the pharmacy, the patients come, at least you should have an idea about every disease because the patient will come and will say I have this, you have to know how to distinguish, is it RHD, is it a cardio myopathy, is it hypertension, and is it cardiac malfunction, so you have to know about a little bit of everything so that you can know which drugs to give and distinguish because they differs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so currently what are you following? You just follow what the doctor have prescribed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Currently I give based on the duration of the drugs, I always have to consult, why you are giving this one which is longer than it should have been"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so do you mainly see the inpatients or the outpatients that mostly come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD patients are mostly outpatients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are outpatient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.297613967729257, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Currently I give based on the duration of the drugs, I always have to consult, why you are giving this one which is longer than it should have been"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so do you mainly see the inpatients or the outpatients that mostly come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD patients are mostly outpatients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are outpatient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then so according to you, what is RHD? What do you know about it, what is that you know about the disease"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8365604539867366, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then so according to you, what is RHD? What do you know about it, what is that you know about the disease"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not so much"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hmm"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I know that it involves the heart and the heart controls the body system to pump blood and that blood should come out"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what could be causing it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.151733837763041, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not so much"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hmm"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I know that it involves the heart and the heart controls the body system to pump blood and that blood should come out"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what could be causing it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not so much, not so much actually"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you aware of the link between sore throat and getting RHD, have you ever heard about it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5019264864033786, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I know that it involves the heart and the heart controls the body system to pump blood and that blood should come out"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what could be causing it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not so much, not so much actually"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you aware of the link between sore throat and getting RHD, have you ever heard about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really but you can tell me now...laughs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I cannot tell you because I need to know what you know and why we are asking you is because we want to see the gap so that people can be given"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8910294293370873, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not so much, not so much actually"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you aware of the link between sore throat and getting RHD, have you ever heard about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really but you can tell me now...laughs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I cannot tell you because I need to know what you know and why we are asking you is because we want to see the gap so that people can be given"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The necessary training"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.3233660325967636, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really but you can tell me now...laughs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I cannot tell you because I need to know what you know and why we are asking you is because we want to see the gap so that people can be given"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The necessary training"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you be knowing how it can be prevented or how we can prevent RHD"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.803740036218626, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The necessary training"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you be knowing how it can be prevented or how we can prevent RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me personally before I am a professional, like taking the real life styles, drink a lot of water, enough exercise, eat well or eat right ,if you do all those, you will get a lot of nutrients, so they should eat right laugh...take enough exercise, that is in good condition, that is specifically for RHD patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned some of the treatment you give for the RHD patients, what are the treatment options you know for treating RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.337488929131807, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you be knowing how it can be prevented or how we can prevent RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me personally before I am a professional, like taking the real life styles, drink a lot of water, enough exercise, eat well or eat right ,if you do all those, you will get a lot of nutrients, so they should eat right laugh...take enough exercise, that is in good condition, that is specifically for RHD patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned some of the treatment you give for the RHD patients, what are the treatment options you know for treating RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the time, the prescriptions I have seen, have come with drugs which also treat hypertension, so those are the ones I know. The prosomide to reduce the freedom of the system, the amlodipine, pelodipin which has not been prescribed because of its scarcity, I believe with the right medication and adherence to treatment, the patient could be where they could become way better because I don’t believe it’s a permanent damage to the system.ok, it may not be completely reversed, but it can be prevented from worsening and wasting other tissues of the body.it has to be both sides, early treatment but also early administration"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so tell me about your encounter with these patients, when did you see the last patient? How long ago?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7083210323686737, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me personally before I am a professional, like taking the real life styles, drink a lot of water, enough exercise, eat well or eat right ,if you do all those, you will get a lot of nutrients, so they should eat right laugh...take enough exercise, that is in good condition, that is specifically for RHD patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned some of the treatment you give for the RHD patients, what are the treatment options you know for treating RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the time, the prescriptions I have seen, have come with drugs which also treat hypertension, so those are the ones I know. The prosomide to reduce the freedom of the system, the amlodipine, pelodipin which has not been prescribed because of its scarcity, I believe with the right medication and adherence to treatment, the patient could be where they could become way better because I don’t believe it’s a permanent damage to the system.ok, it may not be completely reversed, but it can be prevented from worsening and wasting other tissues of the body.it has to be both sides, early treatment but also early administration"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so tell me about your encounter with these patients, when did you see the last patient? How long ago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let’s say last week because this week I have been out of the pharmacy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was last week? And was it a female...how did this patient present, was it a kid or an adult"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.1203567026318595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the time, the prescriptions I have seen, have come with drugs which also treat hypertension, so those are the ones I know. The prosomide to reduce the freedom of the system, the amlodipine, pelodipin which has not been prescribed because of its scarcity, I believe with the right medication and adherence to treatment, the patient could be where they could become way better because I don’t believe it’s a permanent damage to the system.ok, it may not be completely reversed, but it can be prevented from worsening and wasting other tissues of the body.it has to be both sides, early treatment but also early administration"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so tell me about your encounter with these patients, when did you see the last patient? How long ago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let’s say last week because this week I have been out of the pharmacy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was last week? And was it a female...how did this patient present, was it a kid or an adult"}, {"role": "user", "content": "An adult, I think she was incultivated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what drugs was the patient taking?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.5781741140353995, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let’s say last week because this week I have been out of the pharmacy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was last week? And was it a female...how did this patient present, was it a kid or an adult"}, {"role": "user", "content": "An adult, I think she was incultivated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what drugs was the patient taking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was transvelon"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then...so you told me that most of the RHD patients are women, most likely not many years of school"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.086860126705999, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "An adult, I think she was incultivated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what drugs was the patient taking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was transvelon"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then...so you told me that most of the RHD patients are women, most likely not many years of school"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, women and children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do they tell you if they are working or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.65206680745111, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was transvelon"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then...so you told me that most of the RHD patients are women, most likely not many years of school"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, women and children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do they tell you if they are working or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that they are aware of the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and RHD? Do you think that they are having a clue?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.280074230501233, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, women and children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do they tell you if they are working or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that they are aware of the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and RHD? Do you think that they are having a clue?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Normally i don’t think so because there has been screening and sometimes it actually shocks the patient, the person came in fine in the morning, she looks just fine and well, so just get done with this thing and go home, you tell them we may actually need to do another test, they are like what is wrong with me.I feel fine, I feel normal, I can walk home, am busy am walking so what are you talking about"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you as a pharmacist, do they ever come to you to ask question that you feel that if you had the information about them, you would give them in this station?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.8667491450013705, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that they are aware of the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and RHD? Do you think that they are having a clue?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Normally i don’t think so because there has been screening and sometimes it actually shocks the patient, the person came in fine in the morning, she looks just fine and well, so just get done with this thing and go home, you tell them we may actually need to do another test, they are like what is wrong with me.I feel fine, I feel normal, I can walk home, am busy am walking so what are you talking about"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you as a pharmacist, do they ever come to you to ask question that you feel that if you had the information about them, you would give them in this station?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs, talking from my experience especially from my place here, natives from here, well am not from here, so there is a big problem from language barrier, so if they don’t understand English, spending on them, asking questions, so usually you have to get the intermediary, you may have an interpreter or you ask them to tell you back in English, then you explain, then we get it back, so it’s basically, getting back to the person. When you look at it on both sides but some of them by the time they come, they just want to get the drugs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they don’t ask questions"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.518610161112633, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Normally i don’t think so because there has been screening and sometimes it actually shocks the patient, the person came in fine in the morning, she looks just fine and well, so just get done with this thing and go home, you tell them we may actually need to do another test, they are like what is wrong with me.I feel fine, I feel normal, I can walk home, am busy am walking so what are you talking about"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you as a pharmacist, do they ever come to you to ask question that you feel that if you had the information about them, you would give them in this station?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs, talking from my experience especially from my place here, natives from here, well am not from here, so there is a big problem from language barrier, so if they don’t understand English, spending on them, asking questions, so usually you have to get the intermediary, you may have an interpreter or you ask them to tell you back in English, then you explain, then we get it back, so it’s basically, getting back to the person. When you look at it on both sides but some of them by the time they come, they just want to get the drugs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they don’t ask questions"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, unless it’s you to involve them with the information, you tell them take these drugs take lots of water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you explain those things especially now that it’s not your native language, you have to tell the person to drink lots of water, do this, how do you do it, how do you manoeuver"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.714333532237819, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, unless it’s you to involve them with the information, you tell them take these drugs take lots of water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you explain those things especially now that it’s not your native language, you have to tell the person to drink lots of water, do this, how do you do it, how do you manoeuver"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have been borrowing extra man power"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I always ...that’s why am friends with Jenifer, Linda and jafess"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in the morning when you start working"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.238148369153132, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have been borrowing extra man power"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I always ...that’s why am friends with Jenifer, Linda and jafess"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in the morning when you start working"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the morning I always greet them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They can help you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.466849838460656, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the morning I always greet them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They can help you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if you look, do they ever describe their symptoms to you when they come?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.185388709400729, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if you look, do they ever describe their symptoms to you when they come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they just come to pick the medicine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When they come to you, do you get it but that’s not the area, no I will leave that that is not for you. And when they come back do they present their empty packets to you or they take them back to the nurses"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.983765232667476, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if you look, do they ever describe their symptoms to you when they come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they just come to pick the medicine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When they come to you, do you get it but that’s not the area, no I will leave that that is not for you. And when they come back do they present their empty packets to you or they take them back to the nurses"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen any coming to pick medicine with empty packet, not really"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t come? Do you have a good sense of their follow up and their adherence to their medication?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 7.759739147408307, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they just come to pick the medicine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When they come to you, do you get it but that’s not the area, no I will leave that that is not for you. And when they come back do they present their empty packets to you or they take them back to the nurses"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen any coming to pick medicine with empty packet, not really"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t come? Do you have a good sense of their follow up and their adherence to their medication?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since most of them are outpatient there mostly because the inpatients are given the interim report given when the doctor has prescribed, which medication have they changed from, so you can give a sequence, if the patient has been having ampicillin, then they went to ampliclox, then maybe the doctor prescribed genta, the Ceftriaxone, so at least you have a rough record of what was given and at how much, but the outpatient is mostly a single paper, laughs, the diagnosis, treatment and then they go, they usually don’t come back, I know"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do they ever mention any barriers to getting care to you at any one point in this facility."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.288599052675896, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen any coming to pick medicine with empty packet, not really"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t come? Do you have a good sense of their follow up and their adherence to their medication?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since most of them are outpatient there mostly because the inpatients are given the interim report given when the doctor has prescribed, which medication have they changed from, so you can give a sequence, if the patient has been having ampicillin, then they went to ampliclox, then maybe the doctor prescribed genta, the Ceftriaxone, so at least you have a rough record of what was given and at how much, but the outpatient is mostly a single paper, laughs, the diagnosis, treatment and then they go, they usually don’t come back, I know"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do they ever mention any barriers to getting care to you at any one point in this facility."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I will not say they have communicated it out but I will cease to identify, somebody tries and prescribed the right drug not being on our reception medicine desk facilities, so here you know it a referral, we only provide a decisional ditties, the medicines are cheap, safe, it’s effective, it’s affordable and we always give to many patients, very many drugs fall under those brackets and they are first line, we always give second line and third line maybe the alternatives which are affordable and its like it can be better, if you give like spinalatol,you may never find it here, kavendilol,you will never find it here,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So some of the patients have to fend for it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.8762211696398845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since most of them are outpatient there mostly because the inpatients are given the interim report given when the doctor has prescribed, which medication have they changed from, so you can give a sequence, if the patient has been having ampicillin, then they went to ampliclox, then maybe the doctor prescribed genta, the Ceftriaxone, so at least you have a rough record of what was given and at how much, but the outpatient is mostly a single paper, laughs, the diagnosis, treatment and then they go, they usually don’t come back, I know"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do they ever mention any barriers to getting care to you at any one point in this facility."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I will not say they have communicated it out but I will cease to identify, somebody tries and prescribed the right drug not being on our reception medicine desk facilities, so here you know it a referral, we only provide a decisional ditties, the medicines are cheap, safe, it’s effective, it’s affordable and we always give to many patients, very many drugs fall under those brackets and they are first line, we always give second line and third line maybe the alternatives which are affordable and its like it can be better, if you give like spinalatol,you may never find it here, kavendilol,you will never find it here,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So some of the patients have to fend for it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes you may have to write a prescription that has maybe like four drug then you get only one like hypertension, that one has dephedipin and amlodipine, so if it’s not one of those two, then it’s up to you maybe plus captopril and phroximide"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you think we can overcome that, why is there fem medicine on..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.254594036592449, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes you may have to write a prescription that has maybe like four drug then you get only one like hypertension, that one has dephedipin and amlodipine, so if it’s not one of those two, then it’s up to you maybe plus captopril and phroximide"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you think we can overcome that, why is there fem medicine on..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a government facility, so you need to cater for that of the patient, that one I don’t think its going to be rectified any time soon because we also at times, we run out of these essential medicine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like how long do you take before you get another stock?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.838437818436055, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a government facility, so you need to cater for that of the patient, that one I don’t think its going to be rectified any time soon because we also at times, we run out of these essential medicine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like how long do you take before you get another stock?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually they delay like depending if the drugs are ah...the contribution is really high and need is high, we and we stock, like when we have a delay, usually we request other facilities which is half way here to get them here, yeah, at many times we have gotten medicine from Kitgum, most times we have been giving medicine to Aduku an Barr and some health facilities"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you reached to some extent where you spent like 2 weeks without any drugs and also maybe even when you asked for them to give you some, it takes some time to reach Respondent when you ask for drugs from outside, the delivery is not more than a week\n\nIt can take a week or without?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.376042020484505, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like how long do you take before you get another stock?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually they delay like depending if the drugs are ah...the contribution is really high and need is high, we and we stock, like when we have a delay, usually we request other facilities which is half way here to get them here, yeah, at many times we have gotten medicine from Kitgum, most times we have been giving medicine to Aduku an Barr and some health facilities"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you reached to some extent where you spent like 2 weeks without any drugs and also maybe even when you asked for them to give you some, it takes some time to reach Respondent when you ask for drugs from outside, the delivery is not more than a week\n\nIt can take a week or without?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A week or within the week depending on the process because we have to write a letter, get it stamped by the director, scan it, send it, follow up on a phone, organise the transportation ,then you get it from there, so that’s why deliveries delays"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what happens to those patients who comes within a week when you are still processing the drugs"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.97338002276056, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually they delay like depending if the drugs are ah...the contribution is really high and need is high, we and we stock, like when we have a delay, usually we request other facilities which is half way here to get them here, yeah, at many times we have gotten medicine from Kitgum, most times we have been giving medicine to Aduku an Barr and some health facilities"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you reached to some extent where you spent like 2 weeks without any drugs and also maybe even when you asked for them to give you some, it takes some time to reach Respondent when you ask for drugs from outside, the delivery is not more than a week\n\nIt can take a week or without?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A week or within the week depending on the process because we have to write a letter, get it stamped by the director, scan it, send it, follow up on a phone, organise the transportation ,then you get it from there, so that’s why deliveries delays"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what happens to those patients who comes within a week when you are still processing the drugs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We tell them the drugs is still out of stock, that is the first thing, we advise them to purchase it from the nearest pharmacy before the come back because otherwise, we don’t have much to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, for those drugs that you basically don’t stock here, on average for an RHD patient, how much do you have to spend outside to get the drug?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.139975336741433, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We tell them the drugs is still out of stock, that is the first thing, we advise them to purchase it from the nearest pharmacy before the come back because otherwise, we don’t have much to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, for those drugs that you basically don’t stock here, on average for an RHD patient, how much do you have to spend outside to get the drug?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On an average, I think if we don’t have the drugs I have prescribed because If I give it a channelled look and also give it directive, hopefully without an ACE inhibiter laughs...like I have to record roughly ok, a minimum will have to be 15000/= because they are not going to take those drugs for like a month because it’s usually for a short period of time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then which other barrier do you think is...what else is hindering these patients from accessing care why do you think they don’t come"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.711083707490481, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "On an average, I think if we don’t have the drugs I have prescribed because If I give it a channelled look and also give it directive, hopefully without an ACE inhibiter laughs...like I have to record roughly ok, a minimum will have to be 15000/= because they are not going to take those drugs for like a month because it’s usually for a short period of time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then which other barrier do you think is...what else is hindering these patients from accessing care why do you think they don’t come"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t want to say it in a bad way but most of the time people don’t want to come to the hospital unless there is a problem, a problem they have noticed if I feel pain, pain is not going after 2 days, then maybe I need immediate attention. if I wake up feeling fine, I can eat, I can walk, I can do all that, why do I need to go to the hospital, so that’s why some patients have been surprised patient as they get shocked at their actions, their system is not exactly as they think it is. Yes so there is need for sensitisation and health awareness, telling them actually that this thing that maybe killing you slowly, actually be treated very fast and getting back to normal without you going through this documental effects"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, have you ever had about any sensitising campaigns around here about RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.345648563878312, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then which other barrier do you think is...what else is hindering these patients from accessing care why do you think they don’t come"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t want to say it in a bad way but most of the time people don’t want to come to the hospital unless there is a problem, a problem they have noticed if I feel pain, pain is not going after 2 days, then maybe I need immediate attention. if I wake up feeling fine, I can eat, I can walk, I can do all that, why do I need to go to the hospital, so that’s why some patients have been surprised patient as they get shocked at their actions, their system is not exactly as they think it is. Yes so there is need for sensitisation and health awareness, telling them actually that this thing that maybe killing you slowly, actually be treated very fast and getting back to normal without you going through this documental effects"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, have you ever had about any sensitising campaigns around here about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have CME’s here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.939609515420346, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t want to say it in a bad way but most of the time people don’t want to come to the hospital unless there is a problem, a problem they have noticed if I feel pain, pain is not going after 2 days, then maybe I need immediate attention. if I wake up feeling fine, I can eat, I can walk, I can do all that, why do I need to go to the hospital, so that’s why some patients have been surprised patient as they get shocked at their actions, their system is not exactly as they think it is. Yes so there is need for sensitisation and health awareness, telling them actually that this thing that maybe killing you slowly, actually be treated very fast and getting back to normal without you going through this documental effects"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, have you ever had about any sensitising campaigns around here about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have CME’s here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, every week"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Every week? Have you had CME’s on RHD management?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.488455017133718, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have CME’s here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, every week"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Every week? Have you had CME’s on RHD management?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the one we had was on ok there has been kind of on and on depending on how the hospital is but it’s been on every Thursday, we had one on bespatter haemorrhage, we had one on mulateral sensation the last one we had was on sprain brain damage and how to navigate it and that’s what we basically discussed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so and RHD management?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.098283352370797, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, every week"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Every week? Have you had CME’s on RHD management?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the one we had was on ok there has been kind of on and on depending on how the hospital is but it’s been on every Thursday, we had one on bespatter haemorrhage, we had one on mulateral sensation the last one we had was on sprain brain damage and how to navigate it and that’s what we basically discussed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so and RHD management?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe not yet, maybe it was done before I came in"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "before you came in?, so what do you think would stop someone from adhering to drugs, you give them the drugs, you tell them to take like 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening for 30 days, what would stop them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.664759280411996, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the one we had was on ok there has been kind of on and on depending on how the hospital is but it’s been on every Thursday, we had one on bespatter haemorrhage, we had one on mulateral sensation the last one we had was on sprain brain damage and how to navigate it and that’s what we basically discussed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so and RHD management?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe not yet, maybe it was done before I came in"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "before you came in?, so what do you think would stop someone from adhering to drugs, you give them the drugs, you tell them to take like 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening for 30 days, what would stop them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes it’s a variety of factors really, one is the pill burden because the person you are giving 1 drugs2 X2 right that is four drugs already for day and so probably they have 3 drugs and one day there are probably 6 tablets, some of them have different frequencies, some of them is 1x2,others is 1X1,so he has to remember that ah...but that is also navigating what one is doing during the day, what kind of job he has, most of the locals here have subsistence sources of income ,selling food stuffs from the garden, tomatoes, onions, things go on basically, so navigating that and walking around the medicine. You start feeling feasible, usually if the medicine is home, so if you tell them to take 2X2, you have to set a reminder for them if really they are to do it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think some of them don’t come back for reviews?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.294176978235551, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe not yet, maybe it was done before I came in"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "before you came in?, so what do you think would stop someone from adhering to drugs, you give them the drugs, you tell them to take like 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening for 30 days, what would stop them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes it’s a variety of factors really, one is the pill burden because the person you are giving 1 drugs2 X2 right that is four drugs already for day and so probably they have 3 drugs and one day there are probably 6 tablets, some of them have different frequencies, some of them is 1x2,others is 1X1,so he has to remember that ah...but that is also navigating what one is doing during the day, what kind of job he has, most of the locals here have subsistence sources of income ,selling food stuffs from the garden, tomatoes, onions, things go on basically, so navigating that and walking around the medicine. You start feeling feasible, usually if the medicine is home, so if you tell them to take 2X2, you have to set a reminder for them if really they are to do it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think some of them don’t come back for reviews?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I said before, the patient came, he was feeling fine and they are not noticing exactly the difference, so for you to notice, for him to exactly know the difference, it is for him to come back and do the review again, probably they sacrifice a day to do that, the other time we lost a girl ,so survival verses about spending a lot about their life because some it’s frightening sometimes, so you have to choose to really, I am feeling fine but I need the medicine. Ok I need the medicine but I am not feeling too bad about myself, I really need to make that money, what should I really do? Go make the money, if you feel unwell again"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok good, let’s look at the local health system barriers here, which cases are not doing well for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.993529975817278, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes it’s a variety of factors really, one is the pill burden because the person you are giving 1 drugs2 X2 right that is four drugs already for day and so probably they have 3 drugs and one day there are probably 6 tablets, some of them have different frequencies, some of them is 1x2,others is 1X1,so he has to remember that ah...but that is also navigating what one is doing during the day, what kind of job he has, most of the locals here have subsistence sources of income ,selling food stuffs from the garden, tomatoes, onions, things go on basically, so navigating that and walking around the medicine. You start feeling feasible, usually if the medicine is home, so if you tell them to take 2X2, you have to set a reminder for them if really they are to do it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think some of them don’t come back for reviews?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I said before, the patient came, he was feeling fine and they are not noticing exactly the difference, so for you to notice, for him to exactly know the difference, it is for him to come back and do the review again, probably they sacrifice a day to do that, the other time we lost a girl ,so survival verses about spending a lot about their life because some it’s frightening sometimes, so you have to choose to really, I am feeling fine but I need the medicine. Ok I need the medicine but I am not feeling too bad about myself, I really need to make that money, what should I really do? Go make the money, if you feel unwell again"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok good, let’s look at the local health system barriers here, which cases are not doing well for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "which one?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you are doing your work here, what is not working well for you, what you would want to be involved, which area so that you can do your work well?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 7.770588862019197, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I said before, the patient came, he was feeling fine and they are not noticing exactly the difference, so for you to notice, for him to exactly know the difference, it is for him to come back and do the review again, probably they sacrifice a day to do that, the other time we lost a girl ,so survival verses about spending a lot about their life because some it’s frightening sometimes, so you have to choose to really, I am feeling fine but I need the medicine. Ok I need the medicine but I am not feeling too bad about myself, I really need to make that money, what should I really do? Go make the money, if you feel unwell again"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok good, let’s look at the local health system barriers here, which cases are not doing well for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "which one?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you are doing your work here, what is not working well for you, what you would want to be involved, which area so that you can do your work well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There need to be..., as a pharmacist, I would say a fresher course"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A fresher course?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0784320689102187, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "which one?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you are doing your work here, what is not working well for you, what you would want to be involved, which area so that you can do your work well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There need to be..., as a pharmacist, I would say a fresher course"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A fresher course?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, fresher course on the use of drugs especially in anti biotics because the way they are prescribed, are having, you have to re do the prescription because most of the time, we are in the pharmacy full day, Monday to Sunday, Monday and Tuesday is, we are have patients over load like after all the work is done, we have a long line and each ward they have like, they brought all the files at once, so you find medicine for like 12 files. Surgical has brought another 12 files, you have to go through all of them, you have a long...you want to leave this patient and get them done and get to go, you don’t have time to think through what you are writing. So there is need to prescribe. So last week we actually had to move from the pharmacy to the ward to ask who wrote this because they wrote a prescription for, the diagnosis was without so much examinations. They made the diagnosis based on what the patient explained, abdominal breakdown, general weakness, then the person wrote Ulceration mild, as in how do you do ulceration mild just by mere looking, so the diagnosis was PUD plus PID then another person wrote Pluservicitis, then they wrote 7 drugs, five sets of them being anti biotics IV CEF, IV genta and doxycycline, Cipro, metronidazole, nystatin and omeprazole"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you are lying, is that true?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.102240628817116, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was told it was a sister"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had to rectify that on another day when you are very tired with lots of patients, you don’t have a clear mind to literally do that, you just tell everyone to sit here, you do the rest if you are really tired, you just displace and until you discover with 1.2,3,4,5,6 anti biotics for one system, what is the diagnosis, so you need to check, so there is maybe need for refresher course and the right treatment"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it’s a refresher course, patients overload ah..., what else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.558045143130128, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had to rectify that on another day when you are very tired with lots of patients, you don’t have a clear mind to literally do that, you just tell everyone to sit here, you do the rest if you are really tired, you just displace and until you discover with 1.2,3,4,5,6 anti biotics for one system, what is the diagnosis, so you need to check, so there is maybe need for refresher course and the right treatment"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it’s a refresher course, patients overload ah..., what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The patients overload may not really be a problem or a hospital because the pharmacy is always there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many people are there?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.9533834923668087, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had to rectify that on another day when you are very tired with lots of patients, you don’t have a clear mind to literally do that, you just tell everyone to sit here, you do the rest if you are really tired, you just displace and until you discover with 1.2,3,4,5,6 anti biotics for one system, what is the diagnosis, so you need to check, so there is maybe need for refresher course and the right treatment"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it’s a refresher course, patients overload ah..., what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The patients overload may not really be a problem or a hospital because the pharmacy is always there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many people are there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a normal day we have like two people there, two people managing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On average how many cases do you get, like how many?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.39264832485201, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The patients overload may not really be a problem or a hospital because the pharmacy is always there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many people are there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a normal day we have like two people there, two people managing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On average how many cases do you get, like how many?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Managing the whole hospital, it’s an inpatient pharmacy and also outpatient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So on average, how many 5 statute"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.170931755604343, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is interesting because I have never counted but it’s over like 100"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "over 100"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the other thing is we have an inpatient pharmacy here and also the outpatient pharmacy but an inpatient pharmacy is free out of the hospital because they transferred it, so they have to go to the mental side so they give patients the prescription, they have to get out of this side, go round, then walk to that side and get the medicine, sometimes the pharmacy is also closed that side because patient’s medicines are not there so most of them just come here.what is working here is also working for those ones from that side"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Any other challenge you face"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.74547972844927, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the other thing is we have an inpatient pharmacy here and also the outpatient pharmacy but an inpatient pharmacy is free out of the hospital because they transferred it, so they have to go to the mental side so they give patients the prescription, they have to get out of this side, go round, then walk to that side and get the medicine, sometimes the pharmacy is also closed that side because patient’s medicines are not there so most of them just come here.what is working here is also working for those ones from that side"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Any other challenge you face"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The others is basically managerial, drugs being out of stock"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The stock out of course"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.383866364943634, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the other thing is we have an inpatient pharmacy here and also the outpatient pharmacy but an inpatient pharmacy is free out of the hospital because they transferred it, so they have to go to the mental side so they give patients the prescription, they have to get out of this side, go round, then walk to that side and get the medicine, sometimes the pharmacy is also closed that side because patient’s medicines are not there so most of them just come here.what is working here is also working for those ones from that side"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Any other challenge you face"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The others is basically managerial, drugs being out of stock"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The stock out of course"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok and then let’s look at the administration and leadership, what is your take on that? How have you seen the leadership here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 7.093184849937371, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The others is basically managerial, drugs being out of stock"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The stock out of course"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok and then let’s look at the administration and leadership, what is your take on that? How have you seen the leadership here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the hospital or in the pharmacy In the hospital and in the pharmacy, let’s start with your department, how is it running?\n\nPharmacy department, it runs smoothly because you always know who is working and who is off and who is not there, in case he is out, they let you know, you may fill in for them because last week I was out of this supporting some things so someone had to fill in for me, so when I came back, we had to exchange"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so how about the general administration"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.547983166597079, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok and then let’s look at the administration and leadership, what is your take on that? How have you seen the leadership here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the hospital or in the pharmacy In the hospital and in the pharmacy, let’s start with your department, how is it running?\n\nPharmacy department, it runs smoothly because you always know who is working and who is off and who is not there, in case he is out, they let you know, you may fill in for them because last week I was out of this supporting some things so someone had to fill in for me, so when I came back, we had to exchange"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so how about the general administration"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The general administration of the hospital, we have the supervising pharmacist who always comes back and ask because during a normal week, not a normal week laughs, normally on a typical week yeah, it’s the usual patients, medicines you give out but we usually have the internal evaluation, presenting complains, how the patient is reacting to this drug, there is always a problem with gentamycin and with the fresh batch they brought, people reacted to it abit but we had to try and find out. Some people reacted but then after doing some close observation, same people who were reacting to it were given the same drugs, there was no reaction, so maybe it was just spiking of the medication but same drugs, same dozes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then, let’s talk about the funding for health care in general, what is you take on it, what is your opinion about it, what do you have to say about it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 5.053314629552309, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the hospital or in the pharmacy In the hospital and in the pharmacy, let’s start with your department, how is it running?\n\nPharmacy department, it runs smoothly because you always know who is working and who is off and who is not there, in case he is out, they let you know, you may fill in for them because last week I was out of this supporting some things so someone had to fill in for me, so when I came back, we had to exchange"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so how about the general administration"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The general administration of the hospital, we have the supervising pharmacist who always comes back and ask because during a normal week, not a normal week laughs, normally on a typical week yeah, it’s the usual patients, medicines you give out but we usually have the internal evaluation, presenting complains, how the patient is reacting to this drug, there is always a problem with gentamycin and with the fresh batch they brought, people reacted to it abit but we had to try and find out. Some people reacted but then after doing some close observation, same people who were reacting to it were given the same drugs, there was no reaction, so maybe it was just spiking of the medication but same drugs, same dozes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then, let’s talk about the funding for health care in general, what is you take on it, what is your opinion about it, what do you have to say about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The funding, well we actually try to do our best laughs, we actually have to do our best because we don’t have everything that we possibly need or probably want but we have the basic to keep the hospital running, we are trying to navigate things laughs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then for the RHD particularly, at least you told me that there are some you don’t get, you only get the essential drug and then, so what can be done, do you know if there is anything we can do to improve the..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8166181475340313, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well I don’t know if this will work but probably they should do like a special clinic because you may do you checking and giving out the medicine but you could give the prescription like I told you that their business Is just selling food stuffs like tomatoes and onions, you tell them to go and buy the drugs that is costing more than 10,000 shillings, they will usually debate like why should I really spend this much money when I have major needs like food, transport that I need to cater for, if I don’t cater for those ones, I may not survive but if am not doing too badly, so there maybe need to do a special clinic whereby boards should call their patients that they have their address earlier, that on this date and this month, we are going to do a review on all of you, then you can come with your medicine of their own, of course it may never be like this on the pharmacy and of course it’s a standing policy for management of health care"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then, when you look at your numbers in your department, how are you finding the numbers of people you are working with"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The staffs?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The staff yes that is adequate enough with the numbers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are fine with that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.129575719482257, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The staffs?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The staff yes that is adequate enough with the numbers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are fine with that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is good to hear, and then the waiting time of the patient before they are worked on"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3661952438691745, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The staff yes that is adequate enough with the numbers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are fine with that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is good to hear, and then the waiting time of the patient before they are worked on"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The idea is before the files comes to the pharmacy, the doctor has done the review and like the doctor reviewed each patient because late in the evening and then it comes back in the morning because he has written everything and see whether to continue with the medication or he has improved or there is need to change his medicine, something like that. Now because there are very many, some times more patients in the ward and the ward round happens till mid-day, then they collect all the files at once, so you know medical wards. so depending on how soon the files come to you because if the file comes from a medical ward and you already came to your seat, we only work on them according to who comes first. Now for those ones who are emergency ward cases and the patient has come in, we first dispense that one then we can offer the files"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ohh and then how do you look at the health information or medical records here, how are the records kept here, are you happy"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.6291058265213048, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is good to hear, and then the waiting time of the patient before they are worked on"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The idea is before the files comes to the pharmacy, the doctor has done the review and like the doctor reviewed each patient because late in the evening and then it comes back in the morning because he has written everything and see whether to continue with the medication or he has improved or there is need to change his medicine, something like that. Now because there are very many, some times more patients in the ward and the ward round happens till mid-day, then they collect all the files at once, so you know medical wards. so depending on how soon the files come to you because if the file comes from a medical ward and you already came to your seat, we only work on them according to who comes first. Now for those ones who are emergency ward cases and the patient has come in, we first dispense that one then we can offer the files"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ohh and then how do you look at the health information or medical records here, how are the records kept here, are you happy"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Records, what do you mean?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you have been working,"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6990064739125608, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The idea is before the files comes to the pharmacy, the doctor has done the review and like the doctor reviewed each patient because late in the evening and then it comes back in the morning because he has written everything and see whether to continue with the medication or he has improved or there is need to change his medicine, something like that. Now because there are very many, some times more patients in the ward and the ward round happens till mid-day, then they collect all the files at once, so you know medical wards. so depending on how soon the files come to you because if the file comes from a medical ward and you already came to your seat, we only work on them according to who comes first. Now for those ones who are emergency ward cases and the patient has come in, we first dispense that one then we can offer the files"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ohh and then how do you look at the health information or medical records here, how are the records kept here, are you happy"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Records, what do you mean?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you have been working,"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is it on point because its implication to treatment, it’s very easy to retrieve it even when you are dispensing medicines like this ah...majorly aspirins ,we may not only record it in our books but also in the patients file .we always write IV, the date which IV was given and at what quantity, so even if you are working till Thursday, that person working on Friday can know this drug was given, it should last them in this number of days and the next time they should be coming back, it should be on this date"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, good to hear that, any areas which needs improvement via information management"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7766738599028453, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Records, what do you mean?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you have been working,"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is it on point because its implication to treatment, it’s very easy to retrieve it even when you are dispensing medicines like this ah...majorly aspirins ,we may not only record it in our books but also in the patients file .we always write IV, the date which IV was given and at what quantity, so even if you are working till Thursday, that person working on Friday can know this drug was given, it should last them in this number of days and the next time they should be coming back, it should be on this date"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, good to hear that, any areas which needs improvement via information management"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Record keeping, maybe making it digital laughs, of course that will make it a lot, for the pharmacy, but in the store, it’s already digital, so in case you want to retrieve anything, you just have to click on it and you get"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, let’s talk about the heart failure drugs, anti-coagulation drugs, the BPG drugs, the diagnostics like the echo cardiography here in lira hospital"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8629709554476059, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is it on point because its implication to treatment, it’s very easy to retrieve it even when you are dispensing medicines like this ah...majorly aspirins ,we may not only record it in our books but also in the patients file .we always write IV, the date which IV was given and at what quantity, so even if you are working till Thursday, that person working on Friday can know this drug was given, it should last them in this number of days and the next time they should be coming back, it should be on this date"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, good to hear that, any areas which needs improvement via information management"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Record keeping, maybe making it digital laughs, of course that will make it a lot, for the pharmacy, but in the store, it’s already digital, so in case you want to retrieve anything, you just have to click on it and you get"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, let’s talk about the heart failure drugs, anti-coagulation drugs, the BPG drugs, the diagnostics like the echo cardiography here in lira hospital"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In lira hospital?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, how are the stocks?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9588566171640066, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Record keeping, maybe making it digital laughs, of course that will make it a lot, for the pharmacy, but in the store, it’s already digital, so in case you want to retrieve anything, you just have to click on it and you get"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, let’s talk about the heart failure drugs, anti-coagulation drugs, the BPG drugs, the diagnostics like the echo cardiography here in lira hospital"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In lira hospital?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, how are the stocks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "first of all, the diagnostic test, I don’t think we have it here, they are mostly found outside there in a clinic close by where they do echo"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The hospital does not have?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0653962412933407, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In lira hospital?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, how are the stocks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "first of all, the diagnostic test, I don’t think we have it here, they are mostly found outside there in a clinic close by where they do echo"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The hospital does not have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have been referred outside most of them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Most of them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1837736014370452, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "first of all, the diagnostic test, I don’t think we have it here, they are mostly found outside there in a clinic close by where they do echo"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The hospital does not have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have been referred outside most of them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Most of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then the heart failure drugs, do you have them"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4614488906630185, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then the heart failure drugs, do you have them"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The heart failure drugs?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have a few drugs from the pharmacy, we have cardiac failure interblockers and ACE imputer, we only have a few of directives, and we have phroximide, receptive inter blocker, we don’t have them yes sometimes we don’t have anti coagulants"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you don’t have."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6238321007366872, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The heart failure drugs?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have a few drugs from the pharmacy, we have cardiac failure interblockers and ACE imputer, we only have a few of directives, and we have phroximide, receptive inter blocker, we don’t have them yes sometimes we don’t have anti coagulants"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you don’t have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you usually get stock out of those drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8042578897074302, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have a few drugs from the pharmacy, we have cardiac failure interblockers and ACE imputer, we only have a few of directives, and we have phroximide, receptive inter blocker, we don’t have them yes sometimes we don’t have anti coagulants"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you don’t have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you usually get stock out of those drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes once in awhile"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Once in a while?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.004730988563811, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you usually get stock out of those drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes once in awhile"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Once in a while?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you told me that it can take like a week before you get another stock, have you had an incidence when even the other centers don’t have drugs"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4749765290911245, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you told me that it can take like a week before you get another stock, have you had an incidence when even the other centers don’t have drugs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, usually we monitor, we make an order based on the usage, So maximum stock, minimum stock, you have to have a good point, yes we are usually making a good point and we realised that the order would take a little longer than should have been the deliveries. We usually call the facilities by the time when we send a letter, you know, I want this quantity, what quantity they have to keep their facilities running and what quantity they will give you so by the time you make an order, you have a little to sustain you ah..to that point where you were organising the transport and stuffs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wonderful"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, you minimise time listening to them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if you look at the quality of care given to the patients especially the RHD patient, are you happy with it"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7499739212123604, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, usually we monitor, we make an order based on the usage, So maximum stock, minimum stock, you have to have a good point, yes we are usually making a good point and we realised that the order would take a little longer than should have been the deliveries. We usually call the facilities by the time when we send a letter, you know, I want this quantity, what quantity they have to keep their facilities running and what quantity they will give you so by the time you make an order, you have a little to sustain you ah..to that point where you were organising the transport and stuffs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wonderful"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, you minimise time listening to them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if you look at the quality of care given to the patients especially the RHD patient, are you happy with it"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, am glad that they do the diagnostic test yes because once into treats and yes am really glad about that because by the time the patient comes to the pharmacy, you know exactly what is wrong with the patient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, any missing..., is there any gap that needs to be improved on the care that is given?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.055526579124845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, you minimise time listening to them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if you look at the quality of care given to the patients especially the RHD patient, are you happy with it"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, am glad that they do the diagnostic test yes because once into treats and yes am really glad about that because by the time the patient comes to the pharmacy, you know exactly what is wrong with the patient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, any missing..., is there any gap that needs to be improved on the care that is given?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe not necessarily about the care because maybe the general care information to tell, what the disease is about, what their chances really are because sometimes when you tell the person who has been taking the drugs for a long time that basically you are dying but have to keep them aware of it. You need to give the information to them. It should be good if you did that in the health clinic and give them all the information based on their questions"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then let’s look at the guidelines, have you had the chance to look at the guidelines and protocols for RHD care, anyway have you had the chance to look at them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3950295323609385, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, am glad that they do the diagnostic test yes because once into treats and yes am really glad about that because by the time the patient comes to the pharmacy, you know exactly what is wrong with the patient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, any missing..., is there any gap that needs to be improved on the care that is given?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe not necessarily about the care because maybe the general care information to tell, what the disease is about, what their chances really are because sometimes when you tell the person who has been taking the drugs for a long time that basically you are dying but have to keep them aware of it. You need to give the information to them. It should be good if you did that in the health clinic and give them all the information based on their questions"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then let’s look at the guidelines, have you had the chance to look at the guidelines and protocols for RHD care, anyway have you had the chance to look at them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven’t seen it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No? Would they be important to you if you have some CME’s"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.772255035956598, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe not necessarily about the care because maybe the general care information to tell, what the disease is about, what their chances really are because sometimes when you tell the person who has been taking the drugs for a long time that basically you are dying but have to keep them aware of it. You need to give the information to them. It should be good if you did that in the health clinic and give them all the information based on their questions"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then let’s look at the guidelines, have you had the chance to look at the guidelines and protocols for RHD care, anyway have you had the chance to look at them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven’t seen it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No? Would they be important to you if you have some CME’s"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because it’s a common condition compared to the 5 case every day, the frequencies is not so much"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think you would utilise this guidelines?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.19139448439622, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven’t seen it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No? Would they be important to you if you have some CME’s"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because it’s a common condition compared to the 5 case every day, the frequencies is not so much"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think you would utilise this guidelines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This protocols, ok first of all... In case you are interested, it’s in place, you prescribe the right medication to the right patient in the right dozes, so the prognosis should be doing way better"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We are about to finish by the way, let’s look at the local health system do you think it is working for you here in lira hospital, what has made your work easy when you are treating maybe the patients, the RHD patients and the other patients, so what are the pluses for lira hospital that have made your work easy?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.657104982662466, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because it’s a common condition compared to the 5 case every day, the frequencies is not so much"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think you would utilise this guidelines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This protocols, ok first of all... In case you are interested, it’s in place, you prescribe the right medication to the right patient in the right dozes, so the prognosis should be doing way better"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We are about to finish by the way, let’s look at the local health system do you think it is working for you here in lira hospital, what has made your work easy when you are treating maybe the patients, the RHD patients and the other patients, so what are the pluses for lira hospital that have made your work easy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "well, we have good health workers, we have doctors, we have relations, we have detailed health care in place, we have the doctors, the nurses, the midwives, we have the support staffs and we also have the shifts in between, so when one person is maybe working, you don’t get fatigued easily, we have people to help"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Meaning that staffing is fine"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.174561091847185, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This protocols, ok first of all... In case you are interested, it’s in place, you prescribe the right medication to the right patient in the right dozes, so the prognosis should be doing way better"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We are about to finish by the way, let’s look at the local health system do you think it is working for you here in lira hospital, what has made your work easy when you are treating maybe the patients, the RHD patients and the other patients, so what are the pluses for lira hospital that have made your work easy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "well, we have good health workers, we have doctors, we have relations, we have detailed health care in place, we have the doctors, the nurses, the midwives, we have the support staffs and we also have the shifts in between, so when one person is maybe working, you don’t get fatigued easily, we have people to help"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Meaning that staffing is fine"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The staffing is fine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then the administration"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.749512324274649, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "well, we have good health workers, we have doctors, we have relations, we have detailed health care in place, we have the doctors, the nurses, the midwives, we have the support staffs and we also have the shifts in between, so when one person is maybe working, you don’t get fatigued easily, we have people to help"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Meaning that staffing is fine"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The staffing is fine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then the administration"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The administration, they are quick to respond to queries and also find out exactly what went wrong and if the patient died, what was the cause of the death and what has been done up to that point, you would be doing best that you could. In case we are having a lack somewhere, how can we avoid it so that that incidence doesn’t ever repeat, so that always goes out very fast and then the guidelines are not here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me that you don’t have them"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.16612480474961, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The staffing is fine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then the administration"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The administration, they are quick to respond to queries and also find out exactly what went wrong and if the patient died, what was the cause of the death and what has been done up to that point, you would be doing best that you could. In case we are having a lack somewhere, how can we avoid it so that that incidence doesn’t ever repeat, so that always goes out very fast and then the guidelines are not here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me that you don’t have them"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On the ward recently there was a project and they gave out guidelines but with the British national format, actually with the latest version of 2018/2019, yes probably we need to sensitize people on reading them, they are there but they are not reading it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok just in case you want to look at the patients file, maybe on ward, would you find it easy to access that file or a patient who was seen like a week ago and then you need to go back and look at it maybe the things that were given"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.6290275608329, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The administration, they are quick to respond to queries and also find out exactly what went wrong and if the patient died, what was the cause of the death and what has been done up to that point, you would be doing best that you could. In case we are having a lack somewhere, how can we avoid it so that that incidence doesn’t ever repeat, so that always goes out very fast and then the guidelines are not here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me that you don’t have them"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On the ward recently there was a project and they gave out guidelines but with the British national format, actually with the latest version of 2018/2019, yes probably we need to sensitize people on reading them, they are there but they are not reading it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok just in case you want to look at the patients file, maybe on ward, would you find it easy to access that file or a patient who was seen like a week ago and then you need to go back and look at it maybe the things that were given"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have you found that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2704043960900002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have you found that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Personally, it’s very easy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s easy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes because am part of that process, so if am to treat and diagnosing and am the one giving the medicine, I have to ask. so there are times I actually consulted the doctor because I worked on the patient given some of the diclofenac, the maximum dose is 150mgs when the doctor gives 75 mg times 3 daily, so that is 75 mg excess that day, so I picked for the patient to come and see the next period to be able to come to see the doctor, so I called and asked, this patient you saw and you got this diagnosis and you gave this treatment, the problem am having down with the treatment is the 75 extra milligrams (mg), Was the pain so severe and why are you coming up with this ok, then he may tell you, it’s a shorter course than what is required, I hope its just for today and then you will try to change it to a lesser doze"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then the funding for the health care, is that one working for you here especially for the RHD patient since we are looking at RHD"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4115604401000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Personally, it’s very easy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s easy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes because am part of that process, so if am to treat and diagnosing and am the one giving the medicine, I have to ask. so there are times I actually consulted the doctor because I worked on the patient given some of the diclofenac, the maximum dose is 150mgs when the doctor gives 75 mg times 3 daily, so that is 75 mg excess that day, so I picked for the patient to come and see the next period to be able to come to see the doctor, so I called and asked, this patient you saw and you got this diagnosis and you gave this treatment, the problem am having down with the treatment is the 75 extra milligrams (mg), Was the pain so severe and why are you coming up with this ok, then he may tell you, it’s a shorter course than what is required, I hope its just for today and then you will try to change it to a lesser doze"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then the funding for the health care, is that one working for you here especially for the RHD patient since we are looking at RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If it was for RHD we would be probably scoring negatives because we have roughly four drugs laughs. Yes the two of them being in the same categories and then the other one being a single category but for the health funding, we are trying what we can"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then a little bit back to the health workers, do you have any specialists in RHD management?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.568400489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes because am part of that process, so if am to treat and diagnosing and am the one giving the medicine, I have to ask. so there are times I actually consulted the doctor because I worked on the patient given some of the diclofenac, the maximum dose is 150mgs when the doctor gives 75 mg times 3 daily, so that is 75 mg excess that day, so I picked for the patient to come and see the next period to be able to come to see the doctor, so I called and asked, this patient you saw and you got this diagnosis and you gave this treatment, the problem am having down with the treatment is the 75 extra milligrams (mg), Was the pain so severe and why are you coming up with this ok, then he may tell you, it’s a shorter course than what is required, I hope its just for today and then you will try to change it to a lesser doze"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then the funding for the health care, is that one working for you here especially for the RHD patient since we are looking at RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If it was for RHD we would be probably scoring negatives because we have roughly four drugs laughs. Yes the two of them being in the same categories and then the other one being a single category but for the health funding, we are trying what we can"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then a little bit back to the health workers, do you have any specialists in RHD management?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "None that I heard of but I know doctors not specifically for RHD"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s look at the perception of patients outcomes, generally do you think that they get the care that they need here when they come here? Do they get surgeries here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:255", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9362969, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "None that I heard of but I know doctors not specifically for RHD"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s look at the perception of patients outcomes, generally do you think that they get the care that they need here when they come here? Do they get surgeries here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then for the RHD patients, can they access surgery here for those who fall sick"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:257", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.151441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then for the RHD patients, can they access surgery here for those who fall sick"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that I know much about it but I don’t think so"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t think so, and then if you look at the quality of care that is given to the patients and their safety, what do you have to say about that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then for the RHD patients, can they access surgery here for those who fall sick"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that I know much about it but I don’t think so"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t think so, and then if you look at the quality of care that is given to the patients and their safety, what do you have to say about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well unfortunately by the time some patients arrive because most of the patients we have here are referred patients, that means they have been to the local clinics, probably they have guessed what their diagnosis is, some arrangements have been made on the drugs and they have paid for it, then the condition did not get any better, so they say, while we have tried what we can and the patient is getting worse and worse, just refer her to the hospital, so sometimes if not most of the time, there have been crisis management of what was given or the diagnosis they didn’t find, sometimes it’s completely the opposite of what was not completely related to what was done. So you have to rescue that and then you start a fresh, ok sometimes the quality of care is on and off"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have preventable deaths that have occurred here, the deaths that shouldn’t have occurred?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:261", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.6561000000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that I know much about it but I don’t think so"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t think so, and then if you look at the quality of care that is given to the patients and their safety, what do you have to say about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well unfortunately by the time some patients arrive because most of the patients we have here are referred patients, that means they have been to the local clinics, probably they have guessed what their diagnosis is, some arrangements have been made on the drugs and they have paid for it, then the condition did not get any better, so they say, while we have tried what we can and the patient is getting worse and worse, just refer her to the hospital, so sometimes if not most of the time, there have been crisis management of what was given or the diagnosis they didn’t find, sometimes it’s completely the opposite of what was not completely related to what was done. So you have to rescue that and then you start a fresh, ok sometimes the quality of care is on and off"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have preventable deaths that have occurred here, the deaths that shouldn’t have occurred?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the patients sometimes are referred too late and what we can do is simply move smoothly because it has reached to the point of no return. Yes like for one coming and the BP is already hyper and they are already vomiting, sweating and unconsciousness, basically the best you can do is to check their blood pressure but again hold their crisis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But have you had deaths that shouldn’t have occurred because of the care you have given here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:265", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the patients sometimes are referred too late and what we can do is simply move smoothly because it has reached to the point of no return. Yes like for one coming and the BP is already hyper and they are already vomiting, sweating and unconsciousness, basically the best you can do is to check their blood pressure but again hold their crisis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But have you had deaths that shouldn’t have occurred because of the care you have given here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here if the patient could have been ours and he could have been on the ward and everything, the only reason we would probably have besides of course the natural cause, the person has already been distinct. Yes sometimes it is because of the belief system, even right now there is a patient on the ward, yesterday they refused, and the care taker refused the doctor to give the patient any medication for the whole day"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because they don’t agree on the medication, the medication is apparently making the patient weak or worse, so in case you do something in that case, it will be of course the care taker who will definitely say you killed the patient or you made the patient worse. But remember the patient will be in the ward and you are trying to get the patient on another level"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you deal with such cases, is it common or it’s..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:267", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here if the patient could have been ours and he could have been on the ward and everything, the only reason we would probably have besides of course the natural cause, the person has already been distinct. Yes sometimes it is because of the belief system, even right now there is a patient on the ward, yesterday they refused, and the care taker refused the doctor to give the patient any medication for the whole day"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because they don’t agree on the medication, the medication is apparently making the patient weak or worse, so in case you do something in that case, it will be of course the care taker who will definitely say you killed the patient or you made the patient worse. But remember the patient will be in the ward and you are trying to get the patient on another level"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you deal with such cases, is it common or it’s..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it’s not common but the ones that they will really give you a run for you money, they are staunch, so unless you really tell them sometimes, you have to remind them who is a doctor and why they are in the hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:269", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because they don’t agree on the medication, the medication is apparently making the patient weak or worse, so in case you do something in that case, it will be of course the care taker who will definitely say you killed the patient or you made the patient worse. But remember the patient will be in the ward and you are trying to get the patient on another level"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you deal with such cases, is it common or it’s..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it’s not common but the ones that they will really give you a run for you money, they are staunch, so unless you really tell them sometimes, you have to remind them who is a doctor and why they are in the hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, so in case you be on management on a daily basis, let us agree on a day, then you have no drugs because usually we have to sometimes start all over again, sometimes they may get complications"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, from what you have you have said like someone who has high BP, then they are coming, does that means that there are some people dying in the community honestly without seeking care in the hospital"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:271", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it’s not common but the ones that they will really give you a run for you money, they are staunch, so unless you really tell them sometimes, you have to remind them who is a doctor and why they are in the hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, so in case you be on management on a daily basis, let us agree on a day, then you have no drugs because usually we have to sometimes start all over again, sometimes they may get complications"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, from what you have you have said like someone who has high BP, then they are coming, does that means that there are some people dying in the community honestly without seeking care in the hospital"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some patients come to the hospital as a last resort, it has failed elsewhere, lets us try here, sometimes it’s always the users, we have the emergency unit but sometimes we have the emergencies in another unit, like commits an abortion and the stuffs ,the patient comes and like in the gyn ward, someone tells you that I had pain in the morning and they have showed up about 8:00 p.m., so you wonder, so the whole day, what were you doing, yes, so you ask and to hear that they have been taking the smaller herbs, then you start asking, ok, that is all, what are complications that you should have been experiencing, it should have been done long time ago and then you see they have showed up"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then in your opinion, this is the last question, which are the two most important things ministry of health could do to improve outcomes of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:273", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, so in case you be on management on a daily basis, let us agree on a day, then you have no drugs because usually we have to sometimes start all over again, sometimes they may get complications"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, from what you have you have said like someone who has high BP, then they are coming, does that means that there are some people dying in the community honestly without seeking care in the hospital"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some patients come to the hospital as a last resort, it has failed elsewhere, lets us try here, sometimes it’s always the users, we have the emergency unit but sometimes we have the emergencies in another unit, like commits an abortion and the stuffs ,the patient comes and like in the gyn ward, someone tells you that I had pain in the morning and they have showed up about 8:00 p.m., so you wonder, so the whole day, what were you doing, yes, so you ask and to hear that they have been taking the smaller herbs, then you start asking, ok, that is all, what are complications that you should have been experiencing, it should have been done long time ago and then you see they have showed up"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then in your opinion, this is the last question, which are the two most important things ministry of health could do to improve outcomes of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sensitise the patients and raise awareness because personally I don’t know much about it so I cannot imagine how much the community does know about it, then me as a medical worker, I don’t know much about it unless it’s a unique local, then they really need it too much, they will know about it but generally not so much about it ,so there is need to raise awareness, sensitisation then besides that, also on the drugs to treat it because the drugs that come, most of the treatment drugs are to treat hypertension also maybe because it’s very common but then RHD is not hypertension. So there may be a social distinction which may be solved much on their own if that is rectified, it should be fine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow, beautiful, thank you so much for you time, any question before we finish"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When should we get the guidelines?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "How can we get the guidelines?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The guidelines"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We shall leave that to our bosses"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:281", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "How can we get the guidelines?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The guidelines"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We shall leave that to our bosses"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is there how we could maybe get it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, we shall talk to our bosses because at least some of the bosses I think can do something"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00001:283", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We shall leave that to our bosses"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is there how we could maybe get it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, we shall talk to our bosses because at least some of the bosses I think can do something"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we may not be able to get the hard copy unless we know"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much for that information, surely that is something that has been heard"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.4077246840131346, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are fine thanks"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am here with Mbaba Malaki, we are from Sokoine University of agriculture which is located in Morogoro, and we are also working with international organisation IRI which deals with milk. I hope you heard about Maziwa Zaidi (More Milk) who came here in the sometimes ago. This is our second time coming to this place the aim is to study more the food changes in this community. In previous we have some issues you explained which were not clearer to us, so we are here to discuss again. We record this conversation; the discussion is not mandatory you can decide to stop any time but we want you all to talk because we want to learn. (Consent process going on, Maasai language speaking........Aziz)\n\nAre we all consenting now to participate?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes-all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we come here in February we heard that there were foods you used to eat in the past but not consumed now, also there were some food which were not eaten in the past but are consumed now example some Masaai are eating fish now days, also some are eating chicken but in the past they were not eating. Also cooking is not the same as in the past Where in the previous we used to boil and also grill and then mix with local herbs and then eat, how we cook now"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now days when we cook meat we mix with tomatoes, Irish potatoes, onions and cooking oil"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen this is not as how people used to prepare food in the past, so what caused these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.675249648903483, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes-all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we come here in February we heard that there were foods you used to eat in the past but not consumed now, also there were some food which were not eaten in the past but are consumed now example some Masaai are eating fish now days, also some are eating chicken but in the past they were not eating. Also cooking is not the same as in the past Where in the previous we used to boil and also grill and then mix with local herbs and then eat, how we cook now"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now days when we cook meat we mix with tomatoes, Irish potatoes, onions and cooking oil"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen this is not as how people used to prepare food in the past, so what caused these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "speaking in Maasai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you understand what he said, mhh do you eat vegetable, cowpea, beans. Why you are not eating only milk and meat? Why you changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.191666233214176, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "speaking in Maasai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you understand what he said, mhh do you eat vegetable, cowpea, beans. Why you are not eating only milk and meat? Why you changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is because when you visit your sister somewhere you could see how she cooks"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is our neighbour Masai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did they learn cooking"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.705760781745896, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is our neighbour Masai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did they learn cooking"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From other people"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I n the past there were no development the Maasai were depending on the sour milk but now there are so many developments"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of that development? Another one who could explain?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3404454095628346, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I n the past there were no development the Maasai were depending on the sour milk but now there are so many developments"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of that development? Another one who could explain?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "T ranslator-She said that they used to eat meat and animal fat, but after coming of religion they started to be told that what they were not eating is not right and they should change. They were told that the kind of food that they were eating were not good in health wise, religion changed them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to eat grilled meat, boiled meat, sour milk and fresh milk but now development made us to change some are farming now, others eating chicken, sardine. The interaction made us to change, for the case of milk we take them as sauce with stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another thing? There is a lot of food now days. Mbaba can you help us to ask to our grandmother here that what kind of food they were told is not good in the religion?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9017844562504131, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to eat grilled meat, boiled meat, sour milk and fresh milk but now development made us to change some are farming now, others eating chicken, sardine. The interaction made us to change, for the case of milk we take them as sauce with stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another thing? There is a lot of food now days. Mbaba can you help us to ask to our grandmother here that what kind of food they were told is not good in the religion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The told us not to eat blood because it is not good to eat something which is still live"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also, if we want to slaughter we find the Muslims who help us in that process. We are not allowed to eat the dead animals, we are now Anglican."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Grandmother told us you are now farming, you have chicken. This also contributes what else?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0019827291671257, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The told us not to eat blood because it is not good to eat something which is still live"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also, if we want to slaughter we find the Muslims who help us in that process. We are not allowed to eat the dead animals, we are now Anglican."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Grandmother told us you are now farming, you have chicken. This also contributes what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "W eat Loshoro with stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you eating stiff porridge with LOSHORO?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1133141435190286, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also, if we want to slaughter we find the Muslims who help us in that process. We are not allowed to eat the dead animals, we are now Anglican."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Grandmother told us you are now farming, you have chicken. This also contributes what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "W eat Loshoro with stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you eating stiff porridge with LOSHORO?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We can’t stop that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You eat stiff porridge, sardine, and fish"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2370157150211427, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "W eat Loshoro with stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you eating stiff porridge with LOSHORO?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We can’t stop that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You eat stiff porridge, sardine, and fish"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some eat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the children who are now going to school contributed to this change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3744619055790475, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We can’t stop that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You eat stiff porridge, sardine, and fish"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some eat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the children who are now going to school contributed to this change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They cook nice food, when you ask them how you cook that food, the would tell you that is the change"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of firewood and charcoal, did this contribute in anyway?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.6968665500975895, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They cook nice food, when you ask them how you cook that food, the would tell you that is the change"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of firewood and charcoal, did this contribute in anyway?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the changes come due to interaction with other people, when people go to other places"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Speaking In Maasai language......"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What you were talking in Masai"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7742961667750994, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the changes come due to interaction with other people, when people go to other places"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Speaking In Maasai language......"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What you were talking in Masai"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I learn to make stiff porridge from Zigua I know now that if you will increase the floor from the porridge it will turn to stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me so many things about religion, development. But I would like to know if the price of food contributed to that change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8603290741945548, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Speaking In Maasai language......"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What you were talking in Masai"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I learn to make stiff porridge from Zigua I know now that if you will increase the floor from the porridge it will turn to stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me so many things about religion, development. But I would like to know if the price of food contributed to that change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you not slaughtering cow frequently as in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9559211935495053, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I learn to make stiff porridge from Zigua I know now that if you will increase the floor from the porridge it will turn to stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me so many things about religion, development. But I would like to know if the price of food contributed to that change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you not slaughtering cow frequently as in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The aridity, cattle are not as many as in the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else, do we do the work that we used to do before?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0621346594994503, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you not slaughtering cow frequently as in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The aridity, cattle are not as many as in the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else, do we do the work that we used to do before?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We cultivate farms, but it deferent in the past we used the plough but currently we are using tractors, this helped to complete farming early"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how this contribute to food"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1801496216660559, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The aridity, cattle are not as many as in the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else, do we do the work that we used to do before?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We cultivate farms, but it deferent in the past we used the plough but currently we are using tractors, this helped to complete farming early"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how this contribute to food"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This made food to be available more than in the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is other work you were not doing but you are now doing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.456974841563032, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This made food to be available more than in the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is other work you were not doing but you are now doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were not going to the market before our work were only on keeping the cattle, milking and boil the milk. But now we go to the market find what to cook, the development is coming gradually, we don’t use the hand for grinding the maize, we use machine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past the men were the one going to sell the cow and then buy product needed at home but now we go to the market to pay food, the husband gives the money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the foods bought by the husband the same to what you are buying now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6188609350700354, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were not going to the market before our work were only on keeping the cattle, milking and boil the milk. But now we go to the market find what to cook, the development is coming gradually, we don’t use the hand for grinding the maize, we use machine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past the men were the one going to sell the cow and then buy product needed at home but now we go to the market to pay food, the husband gives the money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the foods bought by the husband the same to what you are buying now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not the same, we buy good food, vegetable. They used to buy only one like potatoes, but they forget others like salt, onion"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So women are now going to the market did this contributed to change in any way?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.7987343723000393, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past the men were the one going to sell the cow and then buy product needed at home but now we go to the market to pay food, the husband gives the money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the foods bought by the husband the same to what you are buying now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not the same, we buy good food, vegetable. They used to buy only one like potatoes, but they forget others like salt, onion"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So women are now going to the market did this contributed to change in any way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She is saying that the food that is bought by women is much better compared to men"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned about 8 reasons, and now want to know which contributed much and which one is the least?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8874826358889325, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not the same, we buy good food, vegetable. They used to buy only one like potatoes, but they forget others like salt, onion"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So women are now going to the market did this contributed to change in any way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She is saying that the food that is bought by women is much better compared to men"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned about 8 reasons, and now want to know which contributed much and which one is the least?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Talking in Maasai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have religion, interaction, development that you have chicken and farming, we have school issue, aridity and summer periods, and also the change of roles that women are now going to the market. What contributed most?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9860918176543695, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She is saying that the food that is bought by women is much better compared to men"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned about 8 reasons, and now want to know which contributed much and which one is the least?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Talking in Maasai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have religion, interaction, development that you have chicken and farming, we have school issue, aridity and summer periods, and also the change of roles that women are now going to the market. What contributed most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Talking in Maasai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the first one"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2173973057461351, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Talking in Maasai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the first one"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The religion is the first"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The scarcity of rainfall, we sell like chicken and go to buy meat and other food in the shops, in the past we were eating milk and meat only there were no aridity the cows were fat and healthier"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the first between rain scarcity and religion?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3526636730512611, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The religion is the first"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The scarcity of rainfall, we sell like chicken and go to buy meat and other food in the shops, in the past we were eating milk and meat only there were no aridity the cows were fat and healthier"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the first between rain scarcity and religion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first one is rain scarcity; the religion is number two"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else? Number three?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43538725068056944, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first one is rain scarcity; the religion is number two"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else? Number three?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The third one is religion because their children went to school and they have changed their knowledge they know how to read, they know how to roast sardine and the smell is good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Number four?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mhhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is least contributed to this change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4837636118672994, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The third one is religion because their children went to school and they have changed their knowledge they know how to read, they know how to roast sardine and the smell is good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Number four?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mhhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is least contributed to this change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That women are now allowed to go to the market and we buy what we want the food and clothes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about food availability, farming and interaction?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5375151242969993, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "mhhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is least contributed to this change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That women are now allowed to go to the market and we buy what we want the food and clothes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about food availability, farming and interaction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Farming because you plant maize, beans and in the evening, you go to check your cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the yield sold or for food"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5972390269966659, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That women are now allowed to go to the market and we buy what we want the food and clothes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about food availability, farming and interaction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Farming because you plant maize, beans and in the evening, you go to check your cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the yield sold or for food"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some sold some retained for food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the next between interaction and availability?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6635989188851843, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Farming because you plant maize, beans and in the evening, you go to check your cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the yield sold or for food"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some sold some retained for food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the next between interaction and availability?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is the interaction with others with sisters"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Translator-translating in Maasai language"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7373321320946492, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some sold some retained for food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the next between interaction and availability?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is the interaction with others with sisters"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Translator-translating in Maasai language"}, {"role": "user", "content": ""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay now we have completed about food change lets now talk about milk, why is it important to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9102865828329002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": ""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay now we have completed about food change lets now talk about milk, why is it important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because we found this since we were born, also it is important because it makes the body to be strong and healthy, if children take the milk becomes healthier and fat those who are not taking milk becomes thin"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get animal fat in the milk, they help us heal diseases like diarrheal, it is the food that build the body health and it contribute to have blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you compare the past and in the current time what can you say about importance of the milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0114295364810002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because we found this since we were born, also it is important because it makes the body to be strong and healthy, if children take the milk becomes healthier and fat those who are not taking milk becomes thin"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get animal fat in the milk, they help us heal diseases like diarrheal, it is the food that build the body health and it contribute to have blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you compare the past and in the current time what can you say about importance of the milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we don’t have milk we suffer a lot, we don’t depends only on vegetables and meat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is still the importance the same compared to the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1238105960900002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get animal fat in the milk, they help us heal diseases like diarrheal, it is the food that build the body health and it contribute to have blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you compare the past and in the current time what can you say about importance of the milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we don’t have milk we suffer a lot, we don’t depends only on vegetables and meat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is still the importance the same compared to the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, is the same"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are now milk are not available?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2486784401000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we don’t have milk we suffer a lot, we don’t depends only on vegetables and meat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is still the importance the same compared to the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, is the same"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are now milk are not available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cows are dying because of diseases and they don’t have food because of aridity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from aridity what else contributed to that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3874204890000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, is the same"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are now milk are not available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cows are dying because of diseases and they don’t have food because of aridity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from aridity what else contributed to that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Water scarcity because there are no well and dame"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are these diseases"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cows are dying because of diseases and they don’t have food because of aridity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from aridity what else contributed to that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Water scarcity because there are no well and dame"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are these diseases"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They call it East Coast fever it is not easily cured compared to the past time. Also there are diseases affecting the ribs, bile, and others caused by tsetse fly. These makes the cow sick and its urine become very yellow and sometimes you can see the blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Translator-asking in Maasai language"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Water scarcity because there are no well and dame"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are these diseases"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They call it East Coast fever it is not easily cured compared to the past time. Also there are diseases affecting the ribs, bile, and others caused by tsetse fly. These makes the cow sick and its urine become very yellow and sometimes you can see the blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Translator-asking in Maasai language"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She is saying that they are selling the cow so those children who are going to school can get their needs like buying uniforms"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do these boys/girls still engage in keeping animal after school, did this contribute to milk availability?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They call it East Coast fever it is not easily cured compared to the past time. Also there are diseases affecting the ribs, bile, and others caused by tsetse fly. These makes the cow sick and its urine become very yellow and sometimes you can see the blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Translator-asking in Maasai language"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She is saying that they are selling the cow so those children who are going to school can get their needs like buying uniforms"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do these boys/girls still engage in keeping animal after school, did this contribute to milk availability?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the student after completing secondary school they don’t want to engage in keeping animal, so these contributed to reduce work power"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why they don’t want that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She is saying that they are selling the cow so those children who are going to school can get their needs like buying uniforms"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do these boys/girls still engage in keeping animal after school, did this contribute to milk availability?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the student after completing secondary school they don’t want to engage in keeping animal, so these contributed to reduce work power"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why they don’t want that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are educated, and some want to go to town find some work and have the money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the conflict did it contributed to milk scarcity?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are educated, and some want to go to town find some work and have the money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the conflict did it contributed to milk scarcity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the land shortage they don’t have milk as the grass is scarce"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "another one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cow now days graze in the filed which is already harvested that is why they don’t have more milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the test is still the test is the same or?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the land shortage they don’t have milk as the grass is scarce"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "another one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cow now days graze in the filed which is already harvested that is why they don’t have more milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the test is still the test is the same or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past the milk was heavy, with animal fat but now days the milk are not heavy like before, they are still using milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What contributed to milk scarcity? There are so many reasons you mentioned including aridity, diseases, hungry, school issues to your children, selling cows, the conflicts, and shortage of land, also buying stalk for cow. What are the most contributors?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Land shortage first, the second is disease, the third one is aridity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Water scarcity,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Miss P."}, {"role": "user", "content": "fifth is the school to children and six is the conflict"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I that correct?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Water scarcity,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Miss P."}, {"role": "user", "content": "fifth is the school to children and six is the conflict"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I that correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now we heard that, the masaai were eating blood, do you still eat blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "fifth is the school to children and six is the conflict"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I that correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now we heard that, the masaai were eating blood, do you still eat blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some still eat some stopped. Those who are eating are mixing them with tea, or sometimes boiled"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is its advantage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now we heard that, the masaai were eating blood, do you still eat blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some still eat some stopped. Those who are eating are mixing them with tea, or sometimes boiled"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is its advantage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps to increase the water in the body to those women who gave birth"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is still consumed frequently?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some still eat some stopped. Those who are eating are mixing them with tea, or sometimes boiled"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is its advantage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps to increase the water in the body to those women who gave birth"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is still consumed frequently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not like before. If someone do not have enough blood can use the grapes, it is not used frequently. Also, because of diseases"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In ceremonies what are now days you are eating"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps to increase the water in the body to those women who gave birth"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is still consumed frequently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not like before. If someone do not have enough blood can use the grapes, it is not used frequently. Also, because of diseases"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In ceremonies what are now days you are eating"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat rice, banana and meat, and LOSHORO"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What you used to eat if a person dies in the past time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not like before. If someone do not have enough blood can use the grapes, it is not used frequently. Also, because of diseases"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In ceremonies what are now days you are eating"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat rice, banana and meat, and LOSHORO"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What you used to eat if a person dies in the past time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We only used to eat meat\n\nNowdays we eat soda, clean water, meat, rice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is this change now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat rice, banana and meat, and LOSHORO"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What you used to eat if a person dies in the past time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We only used to eat meat\n\nNowdays we eat soda, clean water, meat, rice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is this change now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because there are so many people the milk and meat would not be enough\n\nThe boiled meat is not good like the grilled one when you mix with rice it sustains all people\n\nNow days we used to slaughter cow in the ceremonies because milk is not enough, now people have changed they don’t depend much on milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others\n\nOkay. I head among Zigua the head and the neck when the cow is slaughtered it goes to uncles in burial ceremony. What about the Masai"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because there are so many people the milk and meat would not be enough\n\nThe boiled meat is not good like the grilled one when you mix with rice it sustains all people\n\nNow days we used to slaughter cow in the ceremonies because milk is not enough, now people have changed they don’t depend much on milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others\n\nOkay. I head among Zigua the head and the neck when the cow is slaughtered it goes to uncles in burial ceremony. What about the Masai"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends with age group, for instance the elders are given the soft meat like leaver"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The one who slaughtered the cow is given the head, it is not allowed to others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about women"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends with age group, for instance the elders are given the soft meat like leaver"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The one who slaughtered the cow is given the head, it is not allowed to others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about women"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are given the intestines and the tail, others are not allowed to use that like youth. If they will violet that their parents would be dying, and other catastrophes will be happening to those youth violated. This applies even to women not to eat men’s meat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The last section: I would like to know how people of your age can learn on nutrition, where are they learning?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are given the intestines and the tail, others are not allowed to use that like youth. If they will violet that their parents would be dying, and other catastrophes will be happening to those youth violated. This applies even to women not to eat men’s meat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The last section: I would like to know how people of your age can learn on nutrition, where are they learning?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is through the children who are going to school and also themselves"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We learn that, if you don’t have cow meat you can cook the chicken to replace"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I this education/information important to your community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is through the children who are going to school and also themselves"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We learn that, if you don’t have cow meat you can cook the chicken to replace"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I this education/information important to your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Translator-They also get this education from church"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can we do this education to be important to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We learn that, if you don’t have cow meat you can cook the chicken to replace"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I this education/information important to your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Translator-They also get this education from church"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can we do this education to be important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is good for women because women knows that they are the one who cook"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who would teach that education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00007:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Translator-They also get this education from church"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can we do this education to be important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is good for women because women knows that they are the one who cook"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who would teach that education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good, the seminars should be provided, also in school this education should be provided, this education is very important it help a lot"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any other question?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00009:6", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.733984311180001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the focus should be on no net loss. This is the mistake I think we have made in the UK so far. I think there has been this immediate leap towards biodiversity offsetting which is a controversial mechanism and isn't a proven mechanism yet even though it has had some success in some parts of the world. The focus should be on no net loss and I think people are starting to realise that now. I'm sure you know BBOP: Business and Biodiversity Offsets Programme. So, they have been out for a long time and have done a lot of the work and called the Biodiversity Offsets Programme and my impression is that sort of regret that a little bit now because I think they would rather focus on no net loss as a policy principal rather than on biodiversity offsetting. I think we will see that eventually in the UK. I think some of the people who are leading on this in the UK are starting, in their talks and in their articles they are writing and thinking basically in general are starting to say we should push towards no net loss as a focus or a net gain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think no net loss as a policy goal is different to no loss that was previously enshrined in EU policy and maybe not UK, but EU. Do you think there is a different between saying we are aiming for no loss or we are aiming for no net loss?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not hugely familiar with the no loss policy. When you say the no loss policy..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think it was established around the Natura 2000 network"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A no loss policy?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, so I think it was within the European Action Programme, reading the reports there is a slow shift from no loss as a policy goal to no net loss. I was just wondering if you think that is a more rigid and stronger policy stance or do you think it is changing the goalposts somewhat."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00009:8", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.482204790200001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not hugely familiar with the no loss policy. When you say the no loss policy..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think it was established around the Natura 2000 network"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A no loss policy?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, so I think it was within the European Action Programme, reading the reports there is a slow shift from no loss as a policy goal to no net loss. I was just wondering if you think that is a more rigid and stronger policy stance or do you think it is changing the goalposts somewhat."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To be honest I can't say I know a huge amount of detail about the no net loss and no loss principles. My feeling is, that in terms of practice at the EU, whatever this no loss policy, if it has been at the heart of the EU and things under the Habitats Directive and so forth, it hasn't been quantified, that is the difference in going towards no net loss policy is this idea of balancing losses and gains quantitatively which I do think is a big difference. I think it is the big shift in all of this. I think that's what makes it, rather than being an old idea in new clothes that's what makes it interesting is that we are actually saying, not just that we will compensate for losses or prevent losses but we are actually going to quantify what those losses are and require an equivalent gain. To me, that quantitative comparison between losses and gains is the interesting thing here and the thing that should be lauded rather than scare environmentalists."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in the process has the concept and development of offsetting encouraged the creation of a biodiversity indicator for the UK at the academic/research level?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00009:10", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 8.313560878, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A no loss policy?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, so I think it was within the European Action Programme, reading the reports there is a slow shift from no loss as a policy goal to no net loss. I was just wondering if you think that is a more rigid and stronger policy stance or do you think it is changing the goalposts somewhat."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To be honest I can't say I know a huge amount of detail about the no net loss and no loss principles. My feeling is, that in terms of practice at the EU, whatever this no loss policy, if it has been at the heart of the EU and things under the Habitats Directive and so forth, it hasn't been quantified, that is the difference in going towards no net loss policy is this idea of balancing losses and gains quantitatively which I do think is a big difference. I think it is the big shift in all of this. I think that's what makes it, rather than being an old idea in new clothes that's what makes it interesting is that we are actually saying, not just that we will compensate for losses or prevent losses but we are actually going to quantify what those losses are and require an equivalent gain. To me, that quantitative comparison between losses and gains is the interesting thing here and the thing that should be lauded rather than scare environmentalists."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in the process has the concept and development of offsetting encouraged the creation of a biodiversity indicator for the UK at the academic/research level?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Biodiversity indicators for the UK?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, do you think it will encourage - the idea of measurement of no net loss - will it encourage the creation of an indicator which can then be streamlined into economic development and streamlined into all planning and development?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00009:14", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.325383800000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Biodiversity indicators for the UK?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, do you think it will encourage - the idea of measurement of no net loss - will it encourage the creation of an indicator which can then be streamlined into economic development and streamlined into all planning and development?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, this whole thing about developing indicators for biodiversity losses and gains and strategies and programmes is an ongoing thing which has a lot of interest from the academic world. There have been efforts, as a result of the Aichi targets and the CBD, like the Biodiversity Indicators Partnership and that kind of thing to develop national level indicators and indeed we have some national level indicators for biodiversity. Yes, I think all the ideas and the research that is being done around biodiversity offsetting and no net loss will lead to the development of useful metrics, especially for the private sector. There is a paper that has come out recently in Oryx which says these are the companies which have no net less policy commitments, there are about 30 or 35 of them, big companies and that is growing. There are more and more companies saying we will endeavor to achieve a no net loss of net positive impact on biodiversity and I think the private sector needs to play a much bigger role in biodiversity compensation and I think it will be able to do so through these kind of ideas and no net loss principal. I think, the application of research into useful indicators for biodiversity will benefit and be useful to the private sector much more than in the public sector is my feeling, whether that is right or not I'm not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, on this there appears a lot more commitment to no net loss goals, do you think at the moment, currently in the UK, there is an enabling theoretical or policy framework for fulfilling those goals? Or do you think there is a mismatch between the development of those commitments and a framework for fulfilling those commitments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For private companies or the public sector?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For private companies"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:0", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.059654040119092, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My hair look okay?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your hair looks great. I only use the audio anyway, so I transcribe it. Your real name will not be used and any references to organizations aren’t named. I mean, you’re retiring, so..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't matter. OK, um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You've any questions for me before I start asking you stuff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I am. Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great. Thank you. OK, so, um. So first, how old are you?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:2", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.06628226679899, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't matter. OK, um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You've any questions for me before I start asking you stuff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I am. Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great. Thank you. OK, so, um. So first, how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "55."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where are you located?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:4", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 22.29586918533221, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I am. Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great. Thank you. OK, so, um. So first, how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "55."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where are you located?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am in [Philadelphia Area]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what's your job?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:6", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 24.773187983702456, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "55."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where are you located?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am in [Philadelphia Area]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what's your job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Jobs then or jobs now. Retired now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were your jobs in early 2020? January."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:8", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 27.525764426336064, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am in [Philadelphia Area]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what's your job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Jobs then or jobs now. Retired now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were your jobs in early 2020? January."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Administrative assistant, EMT instructor, EMT-Basic, Home Care for nephew with brain injury]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. Did you, uh, did you volunteer with anyone?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:10", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 29.47307158481785, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Jobs then or jobs now. Retired now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were your jobs in early 2020? January."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Administrative assistant, EMT instructor, EMT-Basic, Home Care for nephew with brain injury]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. Did you, uh, did you volunteer with anyone?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Volunteered with the squad. [city] Emergency Squad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, and you're an EMT there?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:12", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 11, "return_to_go": 32.74785731646428, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Administrative assistant, EMT instructor, EMT-Basic, Home Care for nephew with brain injury]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. Did you, uh, did you volunteer with anyone?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Volunteered with the squad. [city] Emergency Squad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, and you're an EMT there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I am. EMT b."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So can you tell me about when you first heard about COVID?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:14", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 24.164285907182535, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Volunteered with the squad. [city] Emergency Squad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, and you're an EMT there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I am. EMT b."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So can you tell me about when you first heard about COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So COVID hit the […] County area around the first to second week, first or second week of March. It was minimal beginning first week of March. By the second week, we start to have considerable, several considerable sizable numbers with respiratory distress and flu like symptoms where our call volume went up from maybe 35 in a week to 235 in less than three days where people were just calling in.\n\nI think I have the flu. I'm really, really sick. I'm having respiratory distress. Respiratory distress started to outweigh by the third week in March by March 16th [County] was in full mode for COVID. We closed down our office and worked out of our main office in Doylestown to start to handle the calls that started to come in about COVID, where we were contract tracing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you'd heard about it before it hit?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:16", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 24.62698434131393, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I am. EMT b."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So can you tell me about when you first heard about COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So COVID hit the […] County area around the first to second week, first or second week of March. It was minimal beginning first week of March. By the second week, we start to have considerable, several considerable sizable numbers with respiratory distress and flu like symptoms where our call volume went up from maybe 35 in a week to 235 in less than three days where people were just calling in.\n\nI think I have the flu. I'm really, really sick. I'm having respiratory distress. Respiratory distress started to outweigh by the third week in March by March 16th [County] was in full mode for COVID. We closed down our office and worked out of our main office in Doylestown to start to handle the calls that started to come in about COVID, where we were contract tracing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you'd heard about it before it hit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we did. We had heard about it mid-February, end of February. We- myself hearing through the E.R.s, through the doctor's offices, through my medical director at [organization], that, y’know, something they weren't sure what it was. It was some out, as they called it, an out-of-state flu, which was coming in to be even an out of country, so to speak.\n\nFlu, not that it was a flu, but that's what the signs and symptoms of people were mimicking. And everybody just blew it off as flu and they started to get more severe with respiratory distress and there's respiratory distress. Those calls went into cardiac arrest and then the patient was actually, some were DOA before we even got them to the hospital.\n\nThey didn't make it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow. So can you tell me about your initial thoughts about the new virus?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:34", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 25.248030548311874, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly. And you were like, who, like, ran every day and exercise and eat, right? I do. Trust me, I don't have the best diet, but like, I'm not overweight. I'm not obese, but I just like perfectly healthy. People my age were dropping like flies, and I'm like, how am I still here? Like, you know what I mean? And I try not to think that way because, you know, EMT, that's my job.\n\nIt's like, I need to take care of the public. That's my job. That's my job. You know what I mean?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "My parents are little bit older than you, but they're in great shape and they got hit really hard by it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, God, you lose... Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know. My dad didn't think you would get it because, you know, he's a medical worker. Thank you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Did he get it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, yeah. He got it. Like, immediately. [...]\n\nI was in I was in China. Actually, I was around when it started. I got out of China by like three days and we took a family vacation down in we were in Singapore. Malaysia."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:36", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 28.053367275902083, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, God, you lose... Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know. My dad didn't think you would get it because, you know, he's a medical worker. Thank you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Did he get it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, yeah. He got it. Like, immediately. [...]\n\nI was in I was in China. Actually, I was around when it started. I got out of China by like three days and we took a family vacation down in we were in Singapore. Malaysia."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh cool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. I remember. Like, I mean, like, I had like the pack of masks surgical stuff. Like, a pack of masks. I was like, you guys are going to want this to wear for the plane."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:38", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 31.170408084335648, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Did he get it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, yeah. He got it. Like, immediately. [...]\n\nI was in I was in China. Actually, I was around when it started. I got out of China by like three days and we took a family vacation down in we were in Singapore. Malaysia."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh cool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. I remember. Like, I mean, like, I had like the pack of masks surgical stuff. Like, a pack of masks. I was like, you guys are going to want this to wear for the plane."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And obviously they didn't. And you know, I remember like I was with that, I came back from Asia, so I care for them in the house and then they were good, and I went back to the place in Manhattan. In Manhattan, and I see the masks I gave them unopened on the table."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:40", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 34.63378676037294, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh cool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. I remember. Like, I mean, like, I had like the pack of masks surgical stuff. Like, a pack of masks. I was like, you guys are going to want this to wear for the plane."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And obviously they didn't. And you know, I remember like I was with that, I came back from Asia, so I care for them in the house and then they were good, and I went back to the place in Manhattan. In Manhattan, and I see the masks I gave them unopened on the table."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Unbelievable.\n\nYeah. Yeah. Smack your parents in the head. […]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About the time, like the flu, like the months preceding. So the news coming out of China, the news coming out of Italy."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:60", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.255900710543923, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, God, yeah. All I can tell you out of the the 75 people that we employ, whether they're EMT or paramedic, more than half of them thought it was just the flu. They don't get flu shots. They don't like do anything like. And a lot of those guys work like three and four squads because they got to get the insurance for the family.\n\nSo a lot of them don't get insurance for themselves. So so a lot of them became sick. We actually just lost one of our paramedics because his was an ongoing COVID. He actually he was 31 and he died and they just buried him like three weeks ago. He actually died from COVID."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Was it his do you remember I don't know if you remember [name]?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't think I met him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I don't think he was in your class. He was he was a [school] student. But he went on to do the paramedic program and he was a paramedic. And the reason he died from is from Covid. he was really sick with it bad and kept hanging on. Kept hanging on. He's got a clean bill of health, and he got real sick again, and he just passed away and he was only 31 so yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But but OK, all these EMTs, they thought it was just the flu."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:62", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 20.284334122826582, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Was it his do you remember I don't know if you remember [name]?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't think I met him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I don't think he was in your class. He was he was a [school] student. But he went on to do the paramedic program and he was a paramedic. And the reason he died from is from Covid. he was really sick with it bad and kept hanging on. Kept hanging on. He's got a clean bill of health, and he got real sick again, and he just passed away and he was only 31 so yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But but OK, all these EMTs, they thought it was just the flu."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And a lot of them don't get flu shots, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do that. I mean, did that do those conversations change how you perceive the crisis?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:70", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 28.281259141634784, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, there you go. Oh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, I got it. I got it. I got a free checkup when I first got to China. They give me the what? The chest Xray and everything. I'm good. I'm good for another five years."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I how good did they check you for TB, too?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, exactly. TB and AIDS."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nice. Nice. [description of Chinese medical checkup]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess we could. I guess we could wrap this up. So it's been two years, but we have a million dead is this what you expected?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:72", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 22.534732379594203, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I how good did they check you for TB, too?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, exactly. TB and AIDS."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nice. Nice. [description of Chinese medical checkup]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess we could. I guess we could wrap this up. So it's been two years, but we have a million dead is this what you expected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Honestly, no. I expected the numbers to be a lot higher because you know what? That covid is still hanging on. And now with that new variant coming through? We've actually we actually just stopped testing. We were testing just to school kids. So the high school, middle school, elementary the teachers, the aides, the staff, we still have a lot of them with the symptoms of COVID.\n\nA lot of them are vaccinated and have two doses under their belts and they're still getting sick with the same symptoms. So some people are times like, oh, it's just a flu. Like it's not the flu, it's this other variant that came through. Now I get to say knock on wood I've not gotten to, but I've had two shots plus a booster.\n\nOK, so but like we just stopped testing the end of April and I got to tell you that first May 2nd the phone rang off the wall at the health department. People were panicking. Oh my God, my kids have symptoms. Where do I go to test them? We can't test them anymore. So now we're sending them to like CVS, Walgreens, Rite Aid, all the pharmacies that are doing all the testing now, and we don't do it.\n\nVaccines we're vaccinate two days a week free, no charge, and they're going to cut them off, I think the end of May, first week of June. They're not going to give shots anymore. They're going to push it back on the doctors and the pharmacies here to do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So just to go back to one thing that you said earlier, you said we hold all these EMTs who thought it was just the flu, can you tell me about how they changed their minds?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:94", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 12.379999999999999, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, God, I hope it's helpful. I mean, I'm not like not giving you information you can't use, right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, but I can use I I mean, essentially, you know, your descriptions of the ambulance squads are really good. You go more into details of patient care than some others. Oh, that's good. You're in. You'll probably have to get a quote in the final product."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yay! OK, as long as it gets you an A."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, they don't use As here. It's zero to ten. 5.5 is a minimum pass, but they never give 10s."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's bullshit. You better get a ten or I'm coming and never lands of being your teachers ass with my bat. I will get that on a plane. [...]\n\nYou just there for school? Oh, OK. Um, any other questions? Anything else? I can give you? I want to help and I want to get you that 10."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Maybe about that panic? Underestimation? Watching the numbers go up?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:106", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This better get a ten or I'm going to be really pissed. No, just kidding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm a little bit behind on certain things, but I've pretty good I think I've a pretty good shot at making something good here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the of the original idea actually was to use diary entries, not interviews but, like even that was too hard to find a and also like screenshots and text messages."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From the time to that also was too too difficult so that's it."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:108", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the of the original idea actually was to use diary entries, not interviews but, like even that was too hard to find a and also like screenshots and text messages."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From the time to that also was too too difficult so that's it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right now to really get it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so I think you've given me a lot of really useful stuff. So thank you very much for Siobhan."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:110", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From the time to that also was too too difficult so that's it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right now to really get it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so I think you've given me a lot of really useful stuff. So thank you very much for Siobhan."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From let me know what you get for a grade when you have to turn it in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have a peer review draft due in a month and then I got the final the final presentation and graduate and everything due in another month."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:112", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right now to really get it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so I think you've given me a lot of really useful stuff. So thank you very much for Siobhan."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From let me know what you get for a grade when you have to turn it in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have a peer review draft due in a month and then I got the final the final presentation and graduate and everything due in another month."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nice. OK, well let me know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'll send you, I'll send you a copy."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:114", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From let me know what you get for a grade when you have to turn it in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have a peer review draft due in a month and then I got the final the final presentation and graduate and everything due in another month."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nice. OK, well let me know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'll send you, I'll send you a copy."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, that's good. And then you got to sign it so I can never quite like sociology. I wrote this, my student wrote this you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another [school] success story."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00015:116", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nice. OK, well let me know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'll send you, I'll send you a copy."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, that's good. And then you got to sign it so I can never quite like sociology. I wrote this, my student wrote this you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another [school] success story."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There he goes. Yeah, I got another test. That success story. There it is. There it is. OK, all right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So thank you very much. Happy birthday and enjoy your requirement and enjoy your retirement. And thank you. Congratulations on being a grandmother."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.439363957379458, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the case of nutrition in our society if there are four men in the household, we all sit together and share the same dish, after that we go to graze our livestock.\n\nFor the case of climate and weather changes, now we are experiencing summer season, from last year summer season has become very severe and most lowlands have become dry unlike it was in the few past years.\n\nWe are also currently experiencing shortage of pasture for our livestock’s. This was a different case in the past years.\n\nClimate and weather changes have been caused by tremendous increase in human population and livestock’s, this situation has brought about aridity in most of the wildness. This was a different case for the past seven or six years.\n\nFor the past few years, we experienced severe aridity but this year we have got a lot of rains and produced a lot of food and food prices have dropped tremendously."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, try to recall what happened in five or ten years passed, do you remember any climate changes which have affected availability of water, pasture, etc?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Climate changes have led to severe shortage of pasture, this can be traced right from 1998, and it is not a situation which has just happened within past five years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why there is shortage of pasture and water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tremendous increase in human population and livestock has created shortage of pasture and water, for instance groups of livestock come from Lubungo, Manga and Mkangazi around Kilosa road, so all the forest experiences a lot of livestock’s.\n\nWe started settling in Mela in the year 2000, but then most households did not keep livestock’s, so we had a lot of pasture throughout all seasons, as time passed many pastoralists from Kilosa started shifting to Mela, they came with a lot of livestock’s, as a result most water sources started getting dry and pasture became scarce due to these crowds of livestock. Another problem was cutting of trees which created bare land and thus le to shortage of rainfall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these climate changes affected the livestock keepers including household responsibilities and availability of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.821515508199398, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Climate changes have led to severe shortage of pasture, this can be traced right from 1998, and it is not a situation which has just happened within past five years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why there is shortage of pasture and water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tremendous increase in human population and livestock has created shortage of pasture and water, for instance groups of livestock come from Lubungo, Manga and Mkangazi around Kilosa road, so all the forest experiences a lot of livestock’s.\n\nWe started settling in Mela in the year 2000, but then most households did not keep livestock’s, so we had a lot of pasture throughout all seasons, as time passed many pastoralists from Kilosa started shifting to Mela, they came with a lot of livestock’s, as a result most water sources started getting dry and pasture became scarce due to these crowds of livestock. Another problem was cutting of trees which created bare land and thus le to shortage of rainfall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these climate changes affected the livestock keepers including household responsibilities and availability of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The climate changes have led to aridity and shortage of pasture and water for our livestock, thus leading to little production of milk which in turn affects the household stability by experiencing shortage of food.\n\nClimate changes have forced some pastoralists to shift their cows to other areas where they can access enough pasture and water for their livestock, for that case if there is a great number of livestock within a small grazing area, automatically there will be aridity which will lead to low production of milk and food for the family.\n\nClimate changes has led to low production of milk and food for our families because there is severe shortage of water and pasture, this is aridity.\n\nClimate changes has created shortage of milk from our livestock, this situation has forced Masai people to change their diets, instead of depending on milk and meat, we have started consuming stiff porridge and other kind of vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do many children drink goat milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.246128342443775, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tremendous increase in human population and livestock has created shortage of pasture and water, for instance groups of livestock come from Lubungo, Manga and Mkangazi around Kilosa road, so all the forest experiences a lot of livestock’s.\n\nWe started settling in Mela in the year 2000, but then most households did not keep livestock’s, so we had a lot of pasture throughout all seasons, as time passed many pastoralists from Kilosa started shifting to Mela, they came with a lot of livestock’s, as a result most water sources started getting dry and pasture became scarce due to these crowds of livestock. Another problem was cutting of trees which created bare land and thus le to shortage of rainfall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these climate changes affected the livestock keepers including household responsibilities and availability of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The climate changes have led to aridity and shortage of pasture and water for our livestock, thus leading to little production of milk which in turn affects the household stability by experiencing shortage of food.\n\nClimate changes have forced some pastoralists to shift their cows to other areas where they can access enough pasture and water for their livestock, for that case if there is a great number of livestock within a small grazing area, automatically there will be aridity which will lead to low production of milk and food for the family.\n\nClimate changes has led to low production of milk and food for our families because there is severe shortage of water and pasture, this is aridity.\n\nClimate changes has created shortage of milk from our livestock, this situation has forced Masai people to change their diets, instead of depending on milk and meat, we have started consuming stiff porridge and other kind of vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do many children drink goat milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, goat milk is very little, therefore it cannot sustain a lot of children. Moreover there are few households with enough goats to produce milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience any changes in allocation of responsibilities within your families due to climate change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.717920380493084, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The climate changes have led to aridity and shortage of pasture and water for our livestock, thus leading to little production of milk which in turn affects the household stability by experiencing shortage of food.\n\nClimate changes have forced some pastoralists to shift their cows to other areas where they can access enough pasture and water for their livestock, for that case if there is a great number of livestock within a small grazing area, automatically there will be aridity which will lead to low production of milk and food for the family.\n\nClimate changes has led to low production of milk and food for our families because there is severe shortage of water and pasture, this is aridity.\n\nClimate changes has created shortage of milk from our livestock, this situation has forced Masai people to change their diets, instead of depending on milk and meat, we have started consuming stiff porridge and other kind of vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do many children drink goat milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, goat milk is very little, therefore it cannot sustain a lot of children. Moreover there are few households with enough goats to produce milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience any changes in allocation of responsibilities within your families due to climate change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we have experienced some changes in family responsibilities, for instance we Masai people did not know how to till the land and grow food crops, but nowadays we have changed and started engaging ourselves in crop production, we till the land and grow different crops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is most engaged in farm activities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.242133756103426, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, goat milk is very little, therefore it cannot sustain a lot of children. Moreover there are few households with enough goats to produce milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience any changes in allocation of responsibilities within your families due to climate change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we have experienced some changes in family responsibilities, for instance we Masai people did not know how to till the land and grow food crops, but nowadays we have changed and started engaging ourselves in crop production, we till the land and grow different crops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is most engaged in farm activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a father who is most engaged in farm activities, a mother just remains at home to deal with domestic activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from crop production and livestock keeping, which other activities do you do due to climate change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.82459306233714, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we have experienced some changes in family responsibilities, for instance we Masai people did not know how to till the land and grow food crops, but nowadays we have changed and started engaging ourselves in crop production, we till the land and grow different crops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is most engaged in farm activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a father who is most engaged in farm activities, a mother just remains at home to deal with domestic activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from crop production and livestock keeping, which other activities do you do due to climate change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We Masai originally are pastoralists; we have decided to engage in crop production due to climate change which has affected our livestock.\n\nSome Masai are engaged in small business, for instance someone may buy some cows and sells them to get some little profit, and some Maasai women do sell food at different market places.\n\nSome people do sell milk to get other domestic needs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the above-mentioned views, what else have you been doing so as to overcome the prevailing climate change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.360658958152378, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a father who is most engaged in farm activities, a mother just remains at home to deal with domestic activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from crop production and livestock keeping, which other activities do you do due to climate change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We Masai originally are pastoralists; we have decided to engage in crop production due to climate change which has affected our livestock.\n\nSome Masai are engaged in small business, for instance someone may buy some cows and sells them to get some little profit, and some Maasai women do sell food at different market places.\n\nSome people do sell milk to get other domestic needs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the above-mentioned views, what else have you been doing so as to overcome the prevailing climate change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another technique we use to overcome climate change is that we assist one another basing on the available resources, if a person is well off, he can offer assistance to other households if there is an agreement between the two people.\n\nAnother technique we use to overcome climate change more especially aridity, we take a black cow or sheep and wash it with water at the river so as to get more rains, this is a Maasai custom.\n\nWe Maasai have a tendency to help each other, for instance if a person has a lot of cows he may decide to distribute some cows to different households to neighours so as to sustain their lives because they don't have cows to keep. This has been there for several years, but nowadays it is becoming abandoned."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do so as to overcome the shortage of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.845176620169308, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We Masai originally are pastoralists; we have decided to engage in crop production due to climate change which has affected our livestock.\n\nSome Masai are engaged in small business, for instance someone may buy some cows and sells them to get some little profit, and some Maasai women do sell food at different market places.\n\nSome people do sell milk to get other domestic needs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the above-mentioned views, what else have you been doing so as to overcome the prevailing climate change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another technique we use to overcome climate change is that we assist one another basing on the available resources, if a person is well off, he can offer assistance to other households if there is an agreement between the two people.\n\nAnother technique we use to overcome climate change more especially aridity, we take a black cow or sheep and wash it with water at the river so as to get more rains, this is a Maasai custom.\n\nWe Maasai have a tendency to help each other, for instance if a person has a lot of cows he may decide to distribute some cows to different households to neighours so as to sustain their lives because they don't have cows to keep. This has been there for several years, but nowadays it is becoming abandoned."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do so as to overcome the shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To overcome shortage of milk, some households still have some cows, so they buy maize stalks to feed cows so as to enable them to produce some milk for the family.\n\nSome people do buy maize stalks from the farmers; these also enable cows to produce more milk for our families.\n\nWe also practice transhumance, where we shift our cows to places with enough pasture and water, when milk is obtained; it is brought home for consumption. This year we have experienced hardships in obtaining milk, this happened from August to date, but for the case of last year we had a lot of milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from milk, what do you consume as food/diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.383529577965898, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another technique we use to overcome climate change is that we assist one another basing on the available resources, if a person is well off, he can offer assistance to other households if there is an agreement between the two people.\n\nAnother technique we use to overcome climate change more especially aridity, we take a black cow or sheep and wash it with water at the river so as to get more rains, this is a Maasai custom.\n\nWe Maasai have a tendency to help each other, for instance if a person has a lot of cows he may decide to distribute some cows to different households to neighours so as to sustain their lives because they don't have cows to keep. This has been there for several years, but nowadays it is becoming abandoned."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do so as to overcome the shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To overcome shortage of milk, some households still have some cows, so they buy maize stalks to feed cows so as to enable them to produce some milk for the family.\n\nSome people do buy maize stalks from the farmers; these also enable cows to produce more milk for our families.\n\nWe also practice transhumance, where we shift our cows to places with enough pasture and water, when milk is obtained; it is brought home for consumption. This year we have experienced hardships in obtaining milk, this happened from August to date, but for the case of last year we had a lot of milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from milk, what do you consume as food/diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Apart from milk, we depend on tea, vegetables, beans, and tomatoes, cracked and cooked maize.\n\nWe as pastoralists, if we do not take milk, even if we eat all kinds of other foods, we do not feel comfortable.\n\nWe do not eat fish and sardines as well as chickens because it has not been our custom to eat these foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you not eat fish, sardines and chickens? Can you eat them now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.981699531073219, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To overcome shortage of milk, some households still have some cows, so they buy maize stalks to feed cows so as to enable them to produce some milk for the family.\n\nSome people do buy maize stalks from the farmers; these also enable cows to produce more milk for our families.\n\nWe also practice transhumance, where we shift our cows to places with enough pasture and water, when milk is obtained; it is brought home for consumption. This year we have experienced hardships in obtaining milk, this happened from August to date, but for the case of last year we had a lot of milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from milk, what do you consume as food/diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Apart from milk, we depend on tea, vegetables, beans, and tomatoes, cracked and cooked maize.\n\nWe as pastoralists, if we do not take milk, even if we eat all kinds of other foods, we do not feel comfortable.\n\nWe do not eat fish and sardines as well as chickens because it has not been our custom to eat these foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you not eat fish, sardines and chickens? Can you eat them now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of us do eat but most of us do not eat them, a man in the house can eat chicken but his wife does not eat them.\n\nMost of us who do eat these foods, they take them at chips centers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some Maasai do eat such foods because of exposure to other ethnic groups but others do eat them because they have gone to school."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.535221701192466, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Apart from milk, we depend on tea, vegetables, beans, and tomatoes, cracked and cooked maize.\n\nWe as pastoralists, if we do not take milk, even if we eat all kinds of other foods, we do not feel comfortable.\n\nWe do not eat fish and sardines as well as chickens because it has not been our custom to eat these foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you not eat fish, sardines and chickens? Can you eat them now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of us do eat but most of us do not eat them, a man in the house can eat chicken but his wife does not eat them.\n\nMost of us who do eat these foods, they take them at chips centers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some Maasai do eat such foods because of exposure to other ethnic groups but others do eat them because they have gone to school."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Almost 90% of the Maasai people do not eat these foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from climate change, which other reasons force some Maasai to establish new activities apart from their traditional activities such as pastoralism?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.150246334658295, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of us do eat but most of us do not eat them, a man in the house can eat chicken but his wife does not eat them.\n\nMost of us who do eat these foods, they take them at chips centers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some Maasai do eat such foods because of exposure to other ethnic groups but others do eat them because they have gone to school."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Almost 90% of the Maasai people do not eat these foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from climate change, which other reasons force some Maasai to establish new activities apart from their traditional activities such as pastoralism?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the reasons why some Maasai engage themselves in other activities is due to high food prices at the market, so we decide to till the land and grow crops so as to overcome the high food prices at the market.\n\nSocial interaction between the farmers and pastoralists has also enabled some Maasai to engage in activities such as cultivating the land and growing food crops, some farmers can also engage themselves in livestock keeping when they interact with Maasai people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent have women activities changed due to the above conditions?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.833607038509217, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Almost 90% of the Maasai people do not eat these foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from climate change, which other reasons force some Maasai to establish new activities apart from their traditional activities such as pastoralism?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the reasons why some Maasai engage themselves in other activities is due to high food prices at the market, so we decide to till the land and grow crops so as to overcome the high food prices at the market.\n\nSocial interaction between the farmers and pastoralists has also enabled some Maasai to engage in activities such as cultivating the land and growing food crops, some farmers can also engage themselves in livestock keeping when they interact with Maasai people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent have women activities changed due to the above conditions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women activities have changed due to the available freedom among the women; which enable them to engage themselves in different activities which are sources of income.\n\nSome women have engaged themselves in small business such as selling soft drinks at the market places; this enables them to earn some income to sustain their families."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among ten families including husbands and wives, how many of these do engage in business?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.592896709454686, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the reasons why some Maasai engage themselves in other activities is due to high food prices at the market, so we decide to till the land and grow crops so as to overcome the high food prices at the market.\n\nSocial interaction between the farmers and pastoralists has also enabled some Maasai to engage in activities such as cultivating the land and growing food crops, some farmers can also engage themselves in livestock keeping when they interact with Maasai people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent have women activities changed due to the above conditions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women activities have changed due to the available freedom among the women; which enable them to engage themselves in different activities which are sources of income.\n\nSome women have engaged themselves in small business such as selling soft drinks at the market places; this enables them to earn some income to sustain their families."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among ten families including husbands and wives, how many of these do engage in business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least two of them. Most women do depend on their husbands to sustain their families.\n\nSome women do engage themselves in income generating activities so as to sustain their families, this happens either when a husband fails to sustain his family, or some women are allowed by their husbands to do any activity so as to earn some income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance if a husband is well off, owning a lot of resources, does a woman need to engage in income generating activities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.436551899394095, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women activities have changed due to the available freedom among the women; which enable them to engage themselves in different activities which are sources of income.\n\nSome women have engaged themselves in small business such as selling soft drinks at the market places; this enables them to earn some income to sustain their families."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among ten families including husbands and wives, how many of these do engage in business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least two of them. Most women do depend on their husbands to sustain their families.\n\nSome women do engage themselves in income generating activities so as to sustain their families, this happens either when a husband fails to sustain his family, or some women are allowed by their husbands to do any activity so as to earn some income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance if a husband is well off, owning a lot of resources, does a woman need to engage in income generating activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, in this case there is no need for a woman to look for some income. A woman will remain at home to take care of the family and livestock.\n\nSome households, husbands and women do help each other in most activities including farm activities, but as a man I am responsible for the food availability in the house.\n\nAmong the maasai, nowadays we have tried our best to let our wives become free to engage in different income generating activities, but some maasai men have become very rigid/conservative to let their wives free to do different activities become of maintaining marriage stability."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the impacts of women activities toward availability of food in our households?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.262835443771216, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least two of them. Most women do depend on their husbands to sustain their families.\n\nSome women do engage themselves in income generating activities so as to sustain their families, this happens either when a husband fails to sustain his family, or some women are allowed by their husbands to do any activity so as to earn some income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance if a husband is well off, owning a lot of resources, does a woman need to engage in income generating activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, in this case there is no need for a woman to look for some income. A woman will remain at home to take care of the family and livestock.\n\nSome households, husbands and women do help each other in most activities including farm activities, but as a man I am responsible for the food availability in the house.\n\nAmong the maasai, nowadays we have tried our best to let our wives become free to engage in different income generating activities, but some maasai men have become very rigid/conservative to let their wives free to do different activities become of maintaining marriage stability."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the impacts of women activities toward availability of food in our households?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there is much contribution from our wives to ensure the availability of food in homes when they engage in income generating activities.\n\nAmong the pastoralists, a woman has no decision to ensure the availability of food even if she earns some money, this is a duty of the men among the Masaai. The Maasai women do depend on their husbands for food availability.\n\nAmong the Maasai, men do not depend on women to buy food for the family, otherwise a man will be considered to be weak. Otherwise a man will sell his cow so as to buy food and other domestic needs. In this case a woman will not ask anything about the money obtained from selling cows. When a woman sells some chickens, then a man will not ask anything about the money obtained, and a woman will not provide or spend any amount of money to buy foods and other domestic needs while a man is available.\n\nNowadays there are some families are demanding cooperating to insure food availability in the family for family stability."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the Maasai, which any other ethnic groups are available in this area?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.958706048634685, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, in this case there is no need for a woman to look for some income. A woman will remain at home to take care of the family and livestock.\n\nSome households, husbands and women do help each other in most activities including farm activities, but as a man I am responsible for the food availability in the house.\n\nAmong the maasai, nowadays we have tried our best to let our wives become free to engage in different income generating activities, but some maasai men have become very rigid/conservative to let their wives free to do different activities become of maintaining marriage stability."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the impacts of women activities toward availability of food in our households?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there is much contribution from our wives to ensure the availability of food in homes when they engage in income generating activities.\n\nAmong the pastoralists, a woman has no decision to ensure the availability of food even if she earns some money, this is a duty of the men among the Masaai. The Maasai women do depend on their husbands for food availability.\n\nAmong the Maasai, men do not depend on women to buy food for the family, otherwise a man will be considered to be weak. Otherwise a man will sell his cow so as to buy food and other domestic needs. In this case a woman will not ask anything about the money obtained from selling cows. When a woman sells some chickens, then a man will not ask anything about the money obtained, and a woman will not provide or spend any amount of money to buy foods and other domestic needs while a man is available.\n\nNowadays there are some families are demanding cooperating to insure food availability in the family for family stability."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the Maasai, which any other ethnic groups are available in this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There Gogo people, Sukuma people, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience groups of people who are temporarily around here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.620784498482983, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there is much contribution from our wives to ensure the availability of food in homes when they engage in income generating activities.\n\nAmong the pastoralists, a woman has no decision to ensure the availability of food even if she earns some money, this is a duty of the men among the Masaai. The Maasai women do depend on their husbands for food availability.\n\nAmong the Maasai, men do not depend on women to buy food for the family, otherwise a man will be considered to be weak. Otherwise a man will sell his cow so as to buy food and other domestic needs. In this case a woman will not ask anything about the money obtained from selling cows. When a woman sells some chickens, then a man will not ask anything about the money obtained, and a woman will not provide or spend any amount of money to buy foods and other domestic needs while a man is available.\n\nNowadays there are some families are demanding cooperating to insure food availability in the family for family stability."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the Maasai, which any other ethnic groups are available in this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There Gogo people, Sukuma people, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience groups of people who are temporarily around here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we do experience these groups of people, they stay here for a short time, and they pollute and disturb the forests, for instance the Luguru people. They invade the forests and start burning charcoal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which groups of people do come and cut down trees?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 7.356427220536648, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There Gogo people, Sukuma people, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience groups of people who are temporarily around here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we do experience these groups of people, they stay here for a short time, and they pollute and disturb the forests, for instance the Luguru people. They invade the forests and start burning charcoal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which groups of people do come and cut down trees?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These groups always include some rich and business people who deal with timber selling; they invade our forests and start cutting down trees."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "These people who come to cut trees, burn charcoal and collect firewood, are they women, men or youths?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.840474689485164, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we do experience these groups of people, they stay here for a short time, and they pollute and disturb the forests, for instance the Luguru people. They invade the forests and start burning charcoal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which groups of people do come and cut down trees?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These groups always include some rich and business people who deal with timber selling; they invade our forests and start cutting down trees."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "These people who come to cut trees, burn charcoal and collect firewood, are they women, men or youths?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About 88.8% these are men, 25.5% these are old men and 5-10% these are women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we experience mobility of people from our village to other places within five to ten years passed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.378305210539071, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These groups always include some rich and business people who deal with timber selling; they invade our forests and start cutting down trees."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "These people who come to cut trees, burn charcoal and collect firewood, are they women, men or youths?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About 88.8% these are men, 25.5% these are old men and 5-10% these are women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we experience mobility of people from our village to other places within five to ten years passed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some groups of people do shift to other areas to search for water and pasture in other places more especially during summer season but when it starts raining they come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the main features of these mobile groups more especially when you consider their ages, education levels, etc.?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.975894678376745, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "About 88.8% these are men, 25.5% these are old men and 5-10% these are women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we experience mobility of people from our village to other places within five to ten years passed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some groups of people do shift to other areas to search for water and pasture in other places more especially during summer season but when it starts raining they come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the main features of these mobile groups more especially when you consider their ages, education levels, etc.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the people in these mobile groups are the youths, who always move with cows to search for water and pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the above mentioned mobile groups, which other mobile groups do you experience?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.639882975974161, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some groups of people do shift to other areas to search for water and pasture in other places more especially during summer season but when it starts raining they come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the main features of these mobile groups more especially when you consider their ages, education levels, etc.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the people in these mobile groups are the youths, who always move with cows to search for water and pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the above mentioned mobile groups, which other mobile groups do you experience?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a group of educated youths who move to look for jobs in different places."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is a native man (ethnic group) in Mela?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.377647751082401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the people in these mobile groups are the youths, who always move with cows to search for water and pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the above mentioned mobile groups, which other mobile groups do you experience?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a group of educated youths who move to look for jobs in different places."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is a native man (ethnic group) in Mela?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a Maasai tribe"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, how has the presence of Sukuma and Gogo people contributed to changes in your diet/nutrition system?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.0862752789804455, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a group of educated youths who move to look for jobs in different places."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is a native man (ethnic group) in Mela?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a Maasai tribe"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, how has the presence of Sukuma and Gogo people contributed to changes in your diet/nutrition system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All people in this place share some foods when dishes are prepared, for instance, I can sit together in the same dish with the Sukuma and Gogo people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What have you learnt from other ethnic groups such as Sukuma and Gogo people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.76252808775605, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a Maasai tribe"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, how has the presence of Sukuma and Gogo people contributed to changes in your diet/nutrition system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All people in this place share some foods when dishes are prepared, for instance, I can sit together in the same dish with the Sukuma and Gogo people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What have you learnt from other ethnic groups such as Sukuma and Gogo people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is difference in diet among the Sukuma and Gogo people, the Sukuma people are very kind, they invite their neighbors to their dish, the Gogo people eat normal food but they are not kind to invite other neighbors to their dishes. The Maasai people really eat food, Maasai people have a tendency of inviting their neighbors to participate to their dishes. This is done by both women and men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you learn any other things from other people of different ethnic groups?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.402808986395611, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All people in this place share some foods when dishes are prepared, for instance, I can sit together in the same dish with the Sukuma and Gogo people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What have you learnt from other ethnic groups such as Sukuma and Gogo people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is difference in diet among the Sukuma and Gogo people, the Sukuma people are very kind, they invite their neighbors to their dish, the Gogo people eat normal food but they are not kind to invite other neighbors to their dishes. The Maasai people really eat food, Maasai people have a tendency of inviting their neighbors to participate to their dishes. This is done by both women and men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you learn any other things from other people of different ethnic groups?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Maasai are very kind, they prepare food and take their dishes outside their houses, even if you are passing by his house, if you feel to eat you will be invited, some people like the Sukuma do take their dishes inside their houses, even if you pass by their houses and find them eating, they may not invite you to their dishes. In short, the Maasai do not have issues around tribalism.\n\nWe Masai people learn some new techniques from other ethnic groups on how to till the land and the farmers can learn how to keep livestock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about children, do they learn some new things from other people of different ethnic groups?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.8920099848840115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is difference in diet among the Sukuma and Gogo people, the Sukuma people are very kind, they invite their neighbors to their dish, the Gogo people eat normal food but they are not kind to invite other neighbors to their dishes. The Maasai people really eat food, Maasai people have a tendency of inviting their neighbors to participate to their dishes. This is done by both women and men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you learn any other things from other people of different ethnic groups?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Maasai are very kind, they prepare food and take their dishes outside their houses, even if you are passing by his house, if you feel to eat you will be invited, some people like the Sukuma do take their dishes inside their houses, even if you pass by their houses and find them eating, they may not invite you to their dishes. In short, the Maasai do not have issues around tribalism.\n\nWe Masai people learn some new techniques from other ethnic groups on how to till the land and the farmers can learn how to keep livestock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about children, do they learn some new things from other people of different ethnic groups?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children can eat any food from any household.\n\nFor the case of Maasai children, they always eat food from their fellow Maasai household or other pastoralists households. Maasai children cannot eat food from a non Maasai household or non-pastoralist household.\n\nMost children do not choose what to eat more especially for the case of vegetables and side dish, be it fish or chicken.\n\nMost Maasai children do interact with children from other ethnic groups and learn some little things. They also gather in different ceremonies regardless of the ethnic groups."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you get food and what do you consider in buying certain type of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 5.435566649871124, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Maasai are very kind, they prepare food and take their dishes outside their houses, even if you are passing by his house, if you feel to eat you will be invited, some people like the Sukuma do take their dishes inside their houses, even if you pass by their houses and find them eating, they may not invite you to their dishes. In short, the Maasai do not have issues around tribalism.\n\nWe Masai people learn some new techniques from other ethnic groups on how to till the land and the farmers can learn how to keep livestock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about children, do they learn some new things from other people of different ethnic groups?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children can eat any food from any household.\n\nFor the case of Maasai children, they always eat food from their fellow Maasai household or other pastoralists households. Maasai children cannot eat food from a non Maasai household or non-pastoralist household.\n\nMost children do not choose what to eat more especially for the case of vegetables and side dish, be it fish or chicken.\n\nMost Maasai children do interact with children from other ethnic groups and learn some little things. They also gather in different ceremonies regardless of the ethnic groups."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you get food and what do you consider in buying certain type of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always get food from the village or from the milling machine where we buy maize; we also buy maize flour from the shops and markets."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods are mainly bought by men?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7061851665234706, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children can eat any food from any household.\n\nFor the case of Maasai children, they always eat food from their fellow Maasai household or other pastoralists households. Maasai children cannot eat food from a non Maasai household or non-pastoralist household.\n\nMost children do not choose what to eat more especially for the case of vegetables and side dish, be it fish or chicken.\n\nMost Maasai children do interact with children from other ethnic groups and learn some little things. They also gather in different ceremonies regardless of the ethnic groups."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you get food and what do you consider in buying certain type of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always get food from the village or from the milling machine where we buy maize; we also buy maize flour from the shops and markets."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods are mainly bought by men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize and rice\n\nBeans, tomatoes\n\nSpinach and all kind of vegetables.\n\nCassava, peas\n\nIn summer we always buy and mill maize.\n\nDuring rainy season we always depend on milk and stiff porridge. We also buy sacks of beans.\n\nDuring summer season if we did not grow food crops for the previous season, we decide to sell some of our cows and buy some sacks of maize to obtain food for our families. Rice is a normal food for the pastoralists.\n\nNowadays people are drinking more tea unlike it was in the previous days. Some take tea twice or thrice a day, this has replaced milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which factors do you consider when you go to buy food items?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.006872407248301, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always get food from the village or from the milling machine where we buy maize; we also buy maize flour from the shops and markets."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods are mainly bought by men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize and rice\n\nBeans, tomatoes\n\nSpinach and all kind of vegetables.\n\nCassava, peas\n\nIn summer we always buy and mill maize.\n\nDuring rainy season we always depend on milk and stiff porridge. We also buy sacks of beans.\n\nDuring summer season if we did not grow food crops for the previous season, we decide to sell some of our cows and buy some sacks of maize to obtain food for our families. Rice is a normal food for the pastoralists.\n\nNowadays people are drinking more tea unlike it was in the previous days. Some take tea twice or thrice a day, this has replaced milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which factors do you consider when you go to buy food items?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is hunger, if there is no enough milk to drink, and then I will have to buy some maize because the family has shortage of food.\n\nThe presence of families is another factor which plays a great role in deciding which food items to buy.\n\nAnother factor is about how long the food item can last without being rotten."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is a woman free to go to buy some food items from the shop/markets?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3409693413870007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize and rice\n\nBeans, tomatoes\n\nSpinach and all kind of vegetables.\n\nCassava, peas\n\nIn summer we always buy and mill maize.\n\nDuring rainy season we always depend on milk and stiff porridge. We also buy sacks of beans.\n\nDuring summer season if we did not grow food crops for the previous season, we decide to sell some of our cows and buy some sacks of maize to obtain food for our families. Rice is a normal food for the pastoralists.\n\nNowadays people are drinking more tea unlike it was in the previous days. Some take tea twice or thrice a day, this has replaced milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which factors do you consider when you go to buy food items?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is hunger, if there is no enough milk to drink, and then I will have to buy some maize because the family has shortage of food.\n\nThe presence of families is another factor which plays a great role in deciding which food items to buy.\n\nAnother factor is about how long the food item can last without being rotten."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is a woman free to go to buy some food items from the shop/markets?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, some women do go to buy some food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a tendency among the pastoral men to give some money to their wives so as to cover domestic needs or you buy items and bring them home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7121881570966675, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is hunger, if there is no enough milk to drink, and then I will have to buy some maize because the family has shortage of food.\n\nThe presence of families is another factor which plays a great role in deciding which food items to buy.\n\nAnother factor is about how long the food item can last without being rotten."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is a woman free to go to buy some food items from the shop/markets?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, some women do go to buy some food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a tendency among the pastoral men to give some money to their wives so as to cover domestic needs or you buy items and bring them home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In most cases men buy and bring items to their homes.\n\nIt depends on some available circumstances; if you have travelled then you will have to leave some money to sustain the family in your absence.\n\nSometimes women do engage themselves in small business, so when they earn some money they can also buy domestic items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which items are always bought by women/wives in our households?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.124653507885186, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, some women do go to buy some food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a tendency among the pastoral men to give some money to their wives so as to cover domestic needs or you buy items and bring them home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In most cases men buy and bring items to their homes.\n\nIt depends on some available circumstances; if you have travelled then you will have to leave some money to sustain the family in your absence.\n\nSometimes women do engage themselves in small business, so when they earn some money they can also buy domestic items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which items are always bought by women/wives in our households?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sugar and vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have realized that among the pastoralists, men do get more concern in buying domestic items including food items compared to women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.58294834209465, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In most cases men buy and bring items to their homes.\n\nIt depends on some available circumstances; if you have travelled then you will have to leave some money to sustain the family in your absence.\n\nSometimes women do engage themselves in small business, so when they earn some money they can also buy domestic items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which items are always bought by women/wives in our households?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sugar and vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have realized that among the pastoralists, men do get more concern in buying domestic items including food items compared to women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is because a woman is a weak person, when she is away from home, children do cry but when I go to buy some domestic needs I come back home earlier than a woman. In short men spend little time to go and come back home more especially when I go to buy some domestic needs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You talked about women being weak persons, can you elaborate more?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 5.092164824549611, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sugar and vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have realized that among the pastoralists, men do get more concern in buying domestic items including food items compared to women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is because a woman is a weak person, when she is away from home, children do cry but when I go to buy some domestic needs I come back home earlier than a woman. In short men spend little time to go and come back home more especially when I go to buy some domestic needs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You talked about women being weak persons, can you elaborate more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not mean weakness in terms of health wise but rather being cheated by other men along the road, or when they go to shops they may be cheated by shopkeepers through being offered some more items.\n\nWomen are there to take care of the family including children and livestock.\n\nMost of our women do not go to markets to buy domestic items because the market is very far from our village, that's why men decide to do this duty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which food items do you wish to buy but you fail because they are sold at high prices?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3246275828329006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is because a woman is a weak person, when she is away from home, children do cry but when I go to buy some domestic needs I come back home earlier than a woman. In short men spend little time to go and come back home more especially when I go to buy some domestic needs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You talked about women being weak persons, can you elaborate more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not mean weakness in terms of health wise but rather being cheated by other men along the road, or when they go to shops they may be cheated by shopkeepers through being offered some more items.\n\nWomen are there to take care of the family including children and livestock.\n\nMost of our women do not go to markets to buy domestic items because the market is very far from our village, that's why men decide to do this duty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which food items do you wish to buy but you fail because they are sold at high prices?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy all food items regardless of their prices.\n\nMost of us do not buy rice because it costs high prices.\n\nIn fact, most food items cost high prices, for instance a kilo of beans costs 2200Tsh, sugar costs 2800Tsh, a kilo of rice costs of 2000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods do you obtain through barter system?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5829195364810005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not mean weakness in terms of health wise but rather being cheated by other men along the road, or when they go to shops they may be cheated by shopkeepers through being offered some more items.\n\nWomen are there to take care of the family including children and livestock.\n\nMost of our women do not go to markets to buy domestic items because the market is very far from our village, that's why men decide to do this duty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which food items do you wish to buy but you fail because they are sold at high prices?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy all food items regardless of their prices.\n\nMost of us do not buy rice because it costs high prices.\n\nIn fact, most food items cost high prices, for instance a kilo of beans costs 2200Tsh, sugar costs 2800Tsh, a kilo of rice costs of 2000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods do you obtain through barter system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not practice barter system.\n\nWe always exchange cow to cows, for instance if my fellow has a lot calves, I can exchange with goats. For instance, a single female calf can be exchanged with eight or seven goats."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss the shifting of livestock from one place to another in the search of water and pasture. Compare the time when you were still the Moran and now when you are adult men, tell us also how the situation at home changes when you have moved livestock to another place?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.8699105960900004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy all food items regardless of their prices.\n\nMost of us do not buy rice because it costs high prices.\n\nIn fact, most food items cost high prices, for instance a kilo of beans costs 2200Tsh, sugar costs 2800Tsh, a kilo of rice costs of 2000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods do you obtain through barter system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not practice barter system.\n\nWe always exchange cow to cows, for instance if my fellow has a lot calves, I can exchange with goats. For instance, a single female calf can be exchanged with eight or seven goats."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss the shifting of livestock from one place to another in the search of water and pasture. Compare the time when you were still the Moran and now when you are adult men, tell us also how the situation at home changes when you have moved livestock to another place?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we move livestock from one place to another we always leave some five or four cows at homes, only men do move livestock or other places and all the cooking, cow milking and other activities are done by men.\n\nOnly men are involved in shifting livestock, but a woman can also accompany these men so as to help them in food preparation when they are grazing livestock.\n\nSometimes we shift our livestock and happen to take them to a place with enough pasture, so we always get enough milk from different cows"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what is always the situation for availability of milk at homes when livestock are shifted to another grazing land?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.0776784401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not practice barter system.\n\nWe always exchange cow to cows, for instance if my fellow has a lot calves, I can exchange with goats. For instance, a single female calf can be exchanged with eight or seven goats."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss the shifting of livestock from one place to another in the search of water and pasture. Compare the time when you were still the Moran and now when you are adult men, tell us also how the situation at home changes when you have moved livestock to another place?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we move livestock from one place to another we always leave some five or four cows at homes, only men do move livestock or other places and all the cooking, cow milking and other activities are done by men.\n\nOnly men are involved in shifting livestock, but a woman can also accompany these men so as to help them in food preparation when they are grazing livestock.\n\nSometimes we shift our livestock and happen to take them to a place with enough pasture, so we always get enough milk from different cows"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what is always the situation for availability of milk at homes when livestock are shifted to another grazing land?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk always remains little just for children to drink because grown up men and women just depend on other food items apart from milk.\n\nBefore shifting livestock to another place, we always make sure that there is enough water and pasture.\n\nIt is not that we like to shift our livestock so as to get enough milk, it is a normal case in our society that from August onwards we always experience shortage of milk because the aridity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did you started moving with livestock from one place to another?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1974204890000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we move livestock from one place to another we always leave some five or four cows at homes, only men do move livestock or other places and all the cooking, cow milking and other activities are done by men.\n\nOnly men are involved in shifting livestock, but a woman can also accompany these men so as to help them in food preparation when they are grazing livestock.\n\nSometimes we shift our livestock and happen to take them to a place with enough pasture, so we always get enough milk from different cows"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what is always the situation for availability of milk at homes when livestock are shifted to another grazing land?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk always remains little just for children to drink because grown up men and women just depend on other food items apart from milk.\n\nBefore shifting livestock to another place, we always make sure that there is enough water and pasture.\n\nIt is not that we like to shift our livestock so as to get enough milk, it is a normal case in our society that from August onwards we always experience shortage of milk because the aridity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did you started moving with livestock from one place to another?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Transhumance has been in practice for a long time, for instance some people do shift their livestock to Doma village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do to ensure the availability of milk at home when cows have been shifted to another place in search of pasture and water?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3304672100000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk always remains little just for children to drink because grown up men and women just depend on other food items apart from milk.\n\nBefore shifting livestock to another place, we always make sure that there is enough water and pasture.\n\nIt is not that we like to shift our livestock so as to get enough milk, it is a normal case in our society that from August onwards we always experience shortage of milk because the aridity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did you started moving with livestock from one place to another?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Transhumance has been in practice for a long time, for instance some people do shift their livestock to Doma village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do to ensure the availability of milk at home when cows have been shifted to another place in search of pasture and water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always leave at least four or five cows to produce milk for our children.\n\nWe also buy maize stalks to feed cows so as to increase the production of milk.\n\nSometimes we always go to find milk from the far places; this is mostly done by families with motor bicycle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the impact to women and children when cows are shifted to another place"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.4782969000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Transhumance has been in practice for a long time, for instance some people do shift their livestock to Doma village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do to ensure the availability of milk at home when cows have been shifted to another place in search of pasture and water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always leave at least four or five cows to produce milk for our children.\n\nWe also buy maize stalks to feed cows so as to increase the production of milk.\n\nSometimes we always go to find milk from the far places; this is mostly done by families with motor bicycle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the impact to women and children when cows are shifted to another place"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They really get affected, for instance young kids because they do not get enough milk, some children are forced to eat some vegetables while they are not yet mature enough to eat such foods, so they finally undergo diarrhea.\n\nSome children and women become weak and lack vitamins in their bodies."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about some money your wife earns due to milk selling?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always leave at least four or five cows to produce milk for our children.\n\nWe also buy maize stalks to feed cows so as to increase the production of milk.\n\nSometimes we always go to find milk from the far places; this is mostly done by families with motor bicycle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the impact to women and children when cows are shifted to another place"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They really get affected, for instance young kids because they do not get enough milk, some children are forced to eat some vegetables while they are not yet mature enough to eat such foods, so they finally undergo diarrhea.\n\nSome children and women become weak and lack vitamins in their bodies."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about some money your wife earns due to milk selling?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this case a woman finds herself having no money because she stops selling milk due to its shortage, in some cases women do sell chicken to earn some money.\n\nFor the case of men, they always sell cows to earn some money to buy maize flour.\n\nI suggest that we would like to have a well for our livestock water.\n\nMoreover, nowadays we do not have special breeds of cows for milk production that is why we produce little milk.\n\nSome families are affected by land conflicts between crop farmers and livestock keepers. For instance last week almost seventy cows were killed due to land conflicts"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience conflicts between crop farmers and livestock keepers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They really get affected, for instance young kids because they do not get enough milk, some children are forced to eat some vegetables while they are not yet mature enough to eat such foods, so they finally undergo diarrhea.\n\nSome children and women become weak and lack vitamins in their bodies."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about some money your wife earns due to milk selling?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this case a woman finds herself having no money because she stops selling milk due to its shortage, in some cases women do sell chicken to earn some money.\n\nFor the case of men, they always sell cows to earn some money to buy maize flour.\n\nI suggest that we would like to have a well for our livestock water.\n\nMoreover, nowadays we do not have special breeds of cows for milk production that is why we produce little milk.\n\nSome families are affected by land conflicts between crop farmers and livestock keepers. For instance last week almost seventy cows were killed due to land conflicts"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience conflicts between crop farmers and livestock keepers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we do not have land conflicts between livestock keepers and crop farmers in Mela."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience misunderstandings between crop farmers and livestock keepers for instance cows invading farm lands or farmers blocking livestock paths/ways?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this case a woman finds herself having no money because she stops selling milk due to its shortage, in some cases women do sell chicken to earn some money.\n\nFor the case of men, they always sell cows to earn some money to buy maize flour.\n\nI suggest that we would like to have a well for our livestock water.\n\nMoreover, nowadays we do not have special breeds of cows for milk production that is why we produce little milk.\n\nSome families are affected by land conflicts between crop farmers and livestock keepers. For instance last week almost seventy cows were killed due to land conflicts"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience conflicts between crop farmers and livestock keepers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we do not have land conflicts between livestock keepers and crop farmers in Mela."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience misunderstandings between crop farmers and livestock keepers for instance cows invading farm lands or farmers blocking livestock paths/ways?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Such misunderstandings, sometimes happen but we always settle them peacefully without any conflict.\n\nSometimes we sit together with our village leaders and we reach common consensus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For that case you mean that you have not experienced any land conflicts in Mela between farmers and livestock keepers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we do not have land conflicts between livestock keepers and crop farmers in Mela."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience misunderstandings between crop farmers and livestock keepers for instance cows invading farm lands or farmers blocking livestock paths/ways?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Such misunderstandings, sometimes happen but we always settle them peacefully without any conflict.\n\nSometimes we sit together with our village leaders and we reach common consensus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For that case you mean that you have not experienced any land conflicts in Mela between farmers and livestock keepers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss diet and health issues. For you men, where do you always access information about diet and good nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Such misunderstandings, sometimes happen but we always settle them peacefully without any conflict.\n\nSometimes we sit together with our village leaders and we reach common consensus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For that case you mean that you have not experienced any land conflicts in Mela between farmers and livestock keepers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss diet and health issues. For you men, where do you always access information about diet and good nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always access information about nutrition through radio programs, and our women do get this information through seminars from the clinic attendants,\n\nMost of us do access information about diet through radio programs and other media as well as health centers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get information about which food you are supposed to eat or prepare in a certain day?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss diet and health issues. For you men, where do you always access information about diet and good nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always access information about nutrition through radio programs, and our women do get this information through seminars from the clinic attendants,\n\nMost of us do access information about diet through radio programs and other media as well as health centers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get information about which food you are supposed to eat or prepare in a certain day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we hear from our friends or we discuss and decide with our wives about the type of food to prepare in a certain day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do men in Mela village access information about diet apart from radio and other media programs, from our wives and health centers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always access information about nutrition through radio programs, and our women do get this information through seminars from the clinic attendants,\n\nMost of us do access information about diet through radio programs and other media as well as health centers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get information about which food you are supposed to eat or prepare in a certain day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we hear from our friends or we discuss and decide with our wives about the type of food to prepare in a certain day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do men in Mela village access information about diet apart from radio and other media programs, from our wives and health centers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have any other means through which we access information about diet and good nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the importance of providing good nutrition information?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we hear from our friends or we discuss and decide with our wives about the type of food to prepare in a certain day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do men in Mela village access information about diet apart from radio and other media programs, from our wives and health centers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have any other means through which we access information about diet and good nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the importance of providing good nutrition information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the government and other partners should provide education about diet and good nutrition so as to enables us to understand the importance of all foods with required nutrients for the human body. Seminars about nutrition should be provided.\n\nTFDA should conduct regular inspection on different food items which are mostly consumed by many people to enable them to understand the quality of these food items.\n\nSeminars should be provided to enable people to understand the importance and quality of the food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you want to be included or covered through seminars?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have any other means through which we access information about diet and good nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the importance of providing good nutrition information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the government and other partners should provide education about diet and good nutrition so as to enables us to understand the importance of all foods with required nutrients for the human body. Seminars about nutrition should be provided.\n\nTFDA should conduct regular inspection on different food items which are mostly consumed by many people to enable them to understand the quality of these food items.\n\nSeminars should be provided to enable people to understand the importance and quality of the food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you want to be included or covered through seminars?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Seminars should cover good nutrition and balanced diet.\n\nIt should cover diet system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you want the seminars to be provided and to whom it should be provided?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the government and other partners should provide education about diet and good nutrition so as to enables us to understand the importance of all foods with required nutrients for the human body. Seminars about nutrition should be provided.\n\nTFDA should conduct regular inspection on different food items which are mostly consumed by many people to enable them to understand the quality of these food items.\n\nSeminars should be provided to enable people to understand the importance and quality of the food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you want to be included or covered through seminars?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Seminars should cover good nutrition and balanced diet.\n\nIt should cover diet system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you want the seminars to be provided and to whom it should be provided?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The seminars should be provided to few people who will also go and teach the rest of the villagers.\n\nThe seminars should be provided to medical doctors and technicians at our health centers.\n\nI think the medical doctors and technicians should teach the villagers about good nutrition.\n\nI think the seminars providers should deliver their content practically and theoretically to insist on the importance of different food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the role played by schools, churches, radio, magazines and videos in presenting the information about nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Seminars should cover good nutrition and balanced diet.\n\nIt should cover diet system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you want the seminars to be provided and to whom it should be provided?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The seminars should be provided to few people who will also go and teach the rest of the villagers.\n\nThe seminars should be provided to medical doctors and technicians at our health centers.\n\nI think the medical doctors and technicians should teach the villagers about good nutrition.\n\nI think the seminars providers should deliver their content practically and theoretically to insist on the importance of different food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the role played by schools, churches, radio, magazines and videos in presenting the information about nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the radio and videos do present this information very correctly and directly.\n\nChurches and schools also present good information about diet and good nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the role played by school students in presenting information about diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The seminars should be provided to few people who will also go and teach the rest of the villagers.\n\nThe seminars should be provided to medical doctors and technicians at our health centers.\n\nI think the medical doctors and technicians should teach the villagers about good nutrition.\n\nI think the seminars providers should deliver their content practically and theoretically to insist on the importance of different food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the role played by schools, churches, radio, magazines and videos in presenting the information about nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the radio and videos do present this information very correctly and directly.\n\nChurches and schools also present good information about diet and good nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the role played by school students in presenting information about diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this case secondary students are able to present information about diet compared to primary pupils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the role played by brochures in presenting information about nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the radio and videos do present this information very correctly and directly.\n\nChurches and schools also present good information about diet and good nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the role played by school students in presenting information about diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this case secondary students are able to present information about diet compared to primary pupils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the role played by brochures in presenting information about nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This method may not help much to present the information about diet, only radio programs and church preaching play great role in presenting information on diet and good nutrition.\n\nThe school pupils still have a good chance and can make it better in presenting information about diet because they have topics about nutrition and diet on which they learn different kinds of food items and their importance to our bodies.\n\nFor the case of presenting effective information about nutrition, only secondary students, church preaching and radio programs can do it better than other means in Mela village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us think of our college students. Do these college students play any role in presenting information about diet in our society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this case secondary students are able to present information about diet compared to primary pupils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the role played by brochures in presenting information about nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This method may not help much to present the information about diet, only radio programs and church preaching play great role in presenting information on diet and good nutrition.\n\nThe school pupils still have a good chance and can make it better in presenting information about diet because they have topics about nutrition and diet on which they learn different kinds of food items and their importance to our bodies.\n\nFor the case of presenting effective information about nutrition, only secondary students, church preaching and radio programs can do it better than other means in Mela village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us think of our college students. Do these college students play any role in presenting information about diet in our society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of college students do not play any role in presenting any information and skills about diet and good nutrition in our society."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do these college students still behave like maasai youths?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This method may not help much to present the information about diet, only radio programs and church preaching play great role in presenting information on diet and good nutrition.\n\nThe school pupils still have a good chance and can make it better in presenting information about diet because they have topics about nutrition and diet on which they learn different kinds of food items and their importance to our bodies.\n\nFor the case of presenting effective information about nutrition, only secondary students, church preaching and radio programs can do it better than other means in Mela village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us think of our college students. Do these college students play any role in presenting information about diet in our society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of college students do not play any role in presenting any information and skills about diet and good nutrition in our society."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do these college students still behave like maasai youths?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No most of them tend to have changed their way of thinking and behaving."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thanks, we have come to the end of our discussion. Do you have any additional question or opinion?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00011:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of college students do not play any role in presenting any information and skills about diet and good nutrition in our society."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do these college students still behave like maasai youths?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No most of them tend to have changed their way of thinking and behaving."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thanks, we have come to the end of our discussion. Do you have any additional question or opinion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have participated in this discussion, what will be the importance of this discussion to our village?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The importance of this discussion is to enable us to have critical evidence and views in preparing different programs about nutrition which will be put into implementation in the future."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 4.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Urm... I think there is a lot of myths about biodiversity offsetting going around - the license to trash is one of them I think. Second, my view on biodiversity offsetting is it is slightly different from everybody elses so... I see it as a metric to evaluate a site rather than as part of the mitigation hierarchy for example. We have had sort of issues with this with Natural England where I have been doing HRAs for them, but they don't like the word biodiversity offsetting in the HRAs. At least locally recording have to have an evaluation procedure rather than biodiversity offsetting, as per the wildlife service."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the current mitigation hierarchy protects biodiversity in its current state?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It should do, but it's often not the case."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do the conflicts arise? Is it in the planning system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is within the planning system, there is not enough forward planning for biodiversity. There is one thing I'm trying to promote for biodiversity in the planning system using biodiversity offsetting for site allocations and going through the mitigation hierarchy at the pre-site allocation stage of the plan do that any sensitive sites are knocked out before they even get in to the system for the development"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a conflict between the change of UK policy and the integration of EU environmental policy in reference to the Natura 2000 network and different networks that deserve higher priority than other protected habitats. I was wondering if there is any conflict between biodiversity offsetting and the protection of those habitats?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It should do, but it's often not the case."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do the conflicts arise? Is it in the planning system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is within the planning system, there is not enough forward planning for biodiversity. There is one thing I'm trying to promote for biodiversity in the planning system using biodiversity offsetting for site allocations and going through the mitigation hierarchy at the pre-site allocation stage of the plan do that any sensitive sites are knocked out before they even get in to the system for the development"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a conflict between the change of UK policy and the integration of EU environmental policy in reference to the Natura 2000 network and different networks that deserve higher priority than other protected habitats. I was wondering if there is any conflict between biodiversity offsetting and the protection of those habitats?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think so, well if you take it to be a metric to evaluate a site, there is no conflict. I've been using offsetting since 2009 in the Habitat Regulation Assessment - the current metric has evolved from that. I started looking at habitat suitability indices for species back in 2003 and mainly for GAP analysis with the environment records centre, but we realised that it can be used for offsetting impacts. We had a south-west regional spatial strategy which is no more, there was a potential for development north of Tauton, but Natural England where in two minds about it, one officer was saying because of the impacts on the bat colony, it has to ... another which said yes you can do it but you can enhance the habitat out the development."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is this the DEFRA metric, or is this a separate metric?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is within the planning system, there is not enough forward planning for biodiversity. There is one thing I'm trying to promote for biodiversity in the planning system using biodiversity offsetting for site allocations and going through the mitigation hierarchy at the pre-site allocation stage of the plan do that any sensitive sites are knocked out before they even get in to the system for the development"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a conflict between the change of UK policy and the integration of EU environmental policy in reference to the Natura 2000 network and different networks that deserve higher priority than other protected habitats. I was wondering if there is any conflict between biodiversity offsetting and the protection of those habitats?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think so, well if you take it to be a metric to evaluate a site, there is no conflict. I've been using offsetting since 2009 in the Habitat Regulation Assessment - the current metric has evolved from that. I started looking at habitat suitability indices for species back in 2003 and mainly for GAP analysis with the environment records centre, but we realised that it can be used for offsetting impacts. We had a south-west regional spatial strategy which is no more, there was a potential for development north of Tauton, but Natural England where in two minds about it, one officer was saying because of the impacts on the bat colony, it has to ... another which said yes you can do it but you can enhance the habitat out the development."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is this the DEFRA metric, or is this a separate metric?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a separate metric, before Defra even thought about it. So, when Defra came along with the habitat metric we were a bit alarmed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there also a problem if different ecologists are using different metrics to consider biodiversity offsetting?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think so, well if you take it to be a metric to evaluate a site, there is no conflict. I've been using offsetting since 2009 in the Habitat Regulation Assessment - the current metric has evolved from that. I started looking at habitat suitability indices for species back in 2003 and mainly for GAP analysis with the environment records centre, but we realised that it can be used for offsetting impacts. We had a south-west regional spatial strategy which is no more, there was a potential for development north of Tauton, but Natural England where in two minds about it, one officer was saying because of the impacts on the bat colony, it has to ... another which said yes you can do it but you can enhance the habitat out the development."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is this the DEFRA metric, or is this a separate metric?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a separate metric, before Defra even thought about it. So, when Defra came along with the habitat metric we were a bit alarmed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there also a problem if different ecologists are using different metrics to consider biodiversity offsetting?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Urm, not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, is one more simplistic than the other?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a separate metric, before Defra even thought about it. So, when Defra came along with the habitat metric we were a bit alarmed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there also a problem if different ecologists are using different metrics to consider biodiversity offsetting?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Urm, not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, is one more simplistic than the other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes - definitely. The Defra habitat metric is too simplistic and inadequate for what it should do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At the moment its a voluntary process. But from your experience should it be made mandatory for any kind of infrastructure projects?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Urm, not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, is one more simplistic than the other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes - definitely. The Defra habitat metric is too simplistic and inadequate for what it should do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At the moment its a voluntary process. But from your experience should it be made mandatory for any kind of infrastructure projects?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I don't see why it can't be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is usually referred to no net loss or net gain but should there be a different goal, or does no net loss summarise what we should be aiming for in terms of halting biodiversity loss?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes - definitely. The Defra habitat metric is too simplistic and inadequate for what it should do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At the moment its a voluntary process. But from your experience should it be made mandatory for any kind of infrastructure projects?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I don't see why it can't be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is usually referred to no net loss or net gain but should there be a different goal, or does no net loss summarise what we should be aiming for in terms of halting biodiversity loss?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We should be aiming for a net gain, but if we can't get net gain, we should be aiming for no net loss."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At the moment it's just focussed on biodiversity, but do you think there is any scope to include ecosystem services, when you're assessing the habitat? There are two sides, ecological compensation, but also a social side, if you're translocating a habitat, you might have the ecological compensation, but if the services provided aren't the same, then there might be a loss."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I don't see why it can't be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is usually referred to no net loss or net gain but should there be a different goal, or does no net loss summarise what we should be aiming for in terms of halting biodiversity loss?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We should be aiming for a net gain, but if we can't get net gain, we should be aiming for no net loss."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At the moment it's just focussed on biodiversity, but do you think there is any scope to include ecosystem services, when you're assessing the habitat? There are two sides, ecological compensation, but also a social side, if you're translocating a habitat, you might have the ecological compensation, but if the services provided aren't the same, then there might be a loss."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We're using species based, we need to make sure its accessible to that species still. The offset has to be in the same local as it is coming out of development. So, it's then possible, it's got to be accessible to the population affected, preferably on an ecological network. But, in the same sort of, if it's in the same local, the recreated habitat should be perhaps still accessible to the residents affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When undertaking offsets, do you think compensating the affected communities is always necessary? And is it always practical?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We should be aiming for a net gain, but if we can't get net gain, we should be aiming for no net loss."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At the moment it's just focussed on biodiversity, but do you think there is any scope to include ecosystem services, when you're assessing the habitat? There are two sides, ecological compensation, but also a social side, if you're translocating a habitat, you might have the ecological compensation, but if the services provided aren't the same, then there might be a loss."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We're using species based, we need to make sure its accessible to that species still. The offset has to be in the same local as it is coming out of development. So, it's then possible, it's got to be accessible to the population affected, preferably on an ecological network. But, in the same sort of, if it's in the same local, the recreated habitat should be perhaps still accessible to the residents affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When undertaking offsets, do you think compensating the affected communities is always necessary? And is it always practical?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. It's not always practical, in most cases, the amount of offset it usually accommodated on the development site, it is only a few cases where I've needed to go offsite. Where we have had to go offsite, in that case, there would be no link to the community at all because they are completely separate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can consider biodiversity offsetting in terms of the planning system or in terms of an ecosystem market. I was just wondering what your perspective is on valuing ecosystems and how amenable they are to economic value?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We're using species based, we need to make sure its accessible to that species still. The offset has to be in the same local as it is coming out of development. So, it's then possible, it's got to be accessible to the population affected, preferably on an ecological network. But, in the same sort of, if it's in the same local, the recreated habitat should be perhaps still accessible to the residents affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When undertaking offsets, do you think compensating the affected communities is always necessary? And is it always practical?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. It's not always practical, in most cases, the amount of offset it usually accommodated on the development site, it is only a few cases where I've needed to go offsite. Where we have had to go offsite, in that case, there would be no link to the community at all because they are completely separate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can consider biodiversity offsetting in terms of the planning system or in terms of an ecosystem market. I was just wondering what your perspective is on valuing ecosystems and how amenable they are to economic value?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have no idea at this moment. I work entirely within the planning system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there is scope for it to develop in to a full-scale - in the same way we have carbon offsetting - do you think there is scope for there to be a habitat offsetting market?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. It's not always practical, in most cases, the amount of offset it usually accommodated on the development site, it is only a few cases where I've needed to go offsite. Where we have had to go offsite, in that case, there would be no link to the community at all because they are completely separate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can consider biodiversity offsetting in terms of the planning system or in terms of an ecosystem market. I was just wondering what your perspective is on valuing ecosystems and how amenable they are to economic value?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have no idea at this moment. I work entirely within the planning system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there is scope for it to develop in to a full-scale - in the same way we have carbon offsetting - do you think there is scope for there to be a habitat offsetting market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Possibly, yeah, it would just take more methods how to do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Next to focus on the agenda building capacity - I think the best thing about this kind of like human-centered or ecosystem services approach is that it raised concern about the environment to the forefront of policy and market based instruments are being seen as the principal tool to halt biodiversity loss. I was wondering your perspective of, what role do you think they play in meeting EU targets for biodiversity loss or gain?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have no idea at this moment. I work entirely within the planning system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there is scope for it to develop in to a full-scale - in the same way we have carbon offsetting - do you think there is scope for there to be a habitat offsetting market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Possibly, yeah, it would just take more methods how to do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Next to focus on the agenda building capacity - I think the best thing about this kind of like human-centered or ecosystem services approach is that it raised concern about the environment to the forefront of policy and market based instruments are being seen as the principal tool to halt biodiversity loss. I was wondering your perspective of, what role do you think they play in meeting EU targets for biodiversity loss or gain?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have no experience of that, all my offsets have been arranged between a developer and a landowner, without a market being involved at all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the inclusion of a market could complicate things, or could it potentially ..."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Possibly, yeah, it would just take more methods how to do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Next to focus on the agenda building capacity - I think the best thing about this kind of like human-centered or ecosystem services approach is that it raised concern about the environment to the forefront of policy and market based instruments are being seen as the principal tool to halt biodiversity loss. I was wondering your perspective of, what role do you think they play in meeting EU targets for biodiversity loss or gain?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have no experience of that, all my offsets have been arranged between a developer and a landowner, without a market being involved at all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the inclusion of a market could complicate things, or could it potentially ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Potentially complicate things and lead to biodiversity loss. Because if you're looking at a market-based offset, your offset is being directed to somewhere where it might not benefit the species population affected for example."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes - that is what I meant: trading down, trading up, trading between offsets, so having a store of offsets then trading them financially."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have no experience of that, all my offsets have been arranged between a developer and a landowner, without a market being involved at all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the inclusion of a market could complicate things, or could it potentially ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Potentially complicate things and lead to biodiversity loss. Because if you're looking at a market-based offset, your offset is being directed to somewhere where it might not benefit the species population affected for example."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes - that is what I meant: trading down, trading up, trading between offsets, so having a store of offsets then trading them financially."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I have got concerns about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I suppose that covers the next question on the increasing emphasis on market based instruments, but what role do you think biodiversity offsetting will play either as a market based instrument or as a planning tool in realising the goals of the Natura 2000 network or reversing biodiversity loss?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Potentially complicate things and lead to biodiversity loss. Because if you're looking at a market-based offset, your offset is being directed to somewhere where it might not benefit the species population affected for example."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes - that is what I meant: trading down, trading up, trading between offsets, so having a store of offsets then trading them financially."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I have got concerns about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I suppose that covers the next question on the increasing emphasis on market based instruments, but what role do you think biodiversity offsetting will play either as a market based instrument or as a planning tool in realising the goals of the Natura 2000 network or reversing biodiversity loss?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the planning system, I can see it being a useful tool for evaluate sites where development is occurring. Currently we're just using a subjective approach to what that site is worth to a species. It provides more certainty for the developer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any kind of limit to like-for-like offsets, in terms of an ancient woodland, or something that requires a long restoration period."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I have got concerns about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I suppose that covers the next question on the increasing emphasis on market based instruments, but what role do you think biodiversity offsetting will play either as a market based instrument or as a planning tool in realising the goals of the Natura 2000 network or reversing biodiversity loss?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the planning system, I can see it being a useful tool for evaluate sites where development is occurring. Currently we're just using a subjective approach to what that site is worth to a species. It provides more certainty for the developer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any kind of limit to like-for-like offsets, in terms of an ancient woodland, or something that requires a long restoration period."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes - we wouldn't touch them at all, they should have been eliminated in the pre- allocation stage if there is a site like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After speaking to one of the offsetters, ancient woodlands have been included in the HS2 high speed rail and I was wondering how you think that got through the planning system?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the planning system, I can see it being a useful tool for evaluate sites where development is occurring. Currently we're just using a subjective approach to what that site is worth to a species. It provides more certainty for the developer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any kind of limit to like-for-like offsets, in terms of an ancient woodland, or something that requires a long restoration period."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes - we wouldn't touch them at all, they should have been eliminated in the pre- allocation stage if there is a site like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After speaking to one of the offsetters, ancient woodlands have been included in the HS2 high speed rail and I was wondering how you think that got through the planning system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have drawn it on a map and it's there and they're not going to shift"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then, maybe a last point, is the mitigation hierarchy a well-recognised framework by businesses when they engage in mitigating biodiversity?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes - we wouldn't touch them at all, they should have been eliminated in the pre- allocation stage if there is a site like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After speaking to one of the offsetters, ancient woodlands have been included in the HS2 high speed rail and I was wondering how you think that got through the planning system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have drawn it on a map and it's there and they're not going to shift"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then, maybe a last point, is the mitigation hierarchy a well-recognised framework by businesses when they engage in mitigating biodiversity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sure their ecological consultants are aware of it, I don't know if the developers are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it's useful for developers or do you think it adds more or less red tape around development"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have drawn it on a map and it's there and they're not going to shift"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then, maybe a last point, is the mitigation hierarchy a well-recognised framework by businesses when they engage in mitigating biodiversity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sure their ecological consultants are aware of it, I don't know if the developers are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it's useful for developers or do you think it adds more or less red tape around development"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it shouldn't add red tape, they should be aware of it. looking at sites pre- allocation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From a council perspective, after speaking to a few people about the cuts the council is receiving, biodiversity offsetting can leverage a lot of private sector money towards conservation and supplement the government provision of conservation. Which could be great for meeting goals, but what are the risks of private sector engagement in conservation? Perhaps if biodiversity offsetting was integrated into a market system and you had brokers that were selling offsetters and developers that were buying them."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sure their ecological consultants are aware of it, I don't know if the developers are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it's useful for developers or do you think it adds more or less red tape around development"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it shouldn't add red tape, they should be aware of it. looking at sites pre- allocation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From a council perspective, after speaking to a few people about the cuts the council is receiving, biodiversity offsetting can leverage a lot of private sector money towards conservation and supplement the government provision of conservation. Which could be great for meeting goals, but what are the risks of private sector engagement in conservation? Perhaps if biodiversity offsetting was integrated into a market system and you had brokers that were selling offsetters and developers that were buying them."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't. Because the location of the offsets in relation to the development for a start. I haven't come across a need for doing it and I have been doing them since 2009."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So should all offsets be geographically bound?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it shouldn't add red tape, they should be aware of it. looking at sites pre- allocation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From a council perspective, after speaking to a few people about the cuts the council is receiving, biodiversity offsetting can leverage a lot of private sector money towards conservation and supplement the government provision of conservation. Which could be great for meeting goals, but what are the risks of private sector engagement in conservation? Perhaps if biodiversity offsetting was integrated into a market system and you had brokers that were selling offsetters and developers that were buying them."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't. Because the location of the offsets in relation to the development for a start. I haven't come across a need for doing it and I have been doing them since 2009."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So should all offsets be geographically bound?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes - otherwise you're gonna get biodiversity loss."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What factors should determine the compensation, ecological compensation."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't. Because the location of the offsets in relation to the development for a start. I haven't come across a need for doing it and I have been doing them since 2009."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So should all offsets be geographically bound?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes - otherwise you're gonna get biodiversity loss."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What factors should determine the compensation, ecological compensation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It should be based on the receptors on the development side, you need to replace the habitat within accessible range with that population."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do the community receive informed consent of what is happening, or is there enough stakeholder engagement?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes - otherwise you're gonna get biodiversity loss."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What factors should determine the compensation, ecological compensation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It should be based on the receptors on the development side, you need to replace the habitat within accessible range with that population."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do the community receive informed consent of what is happening, or is there enough stakeholder engagement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tes - is there enough stakeholder engagement?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It should be based on the receptors on the development side, you need to replace the habitat within accessible range with that population."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do the community receive informed consent of what is happening, or is there enough stakeholder engagement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tes - is there enough stakeholder engagement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We haven't had any involvement."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Should there be more engagement of stakeholders?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00004:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tes - is there enough stakeholder engagement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We haven't had any involvement."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Should there be more engagement of stakeholders?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, they don't have any ecological expertise so... generally... we do have some professors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If the communities are affected by the development, would they be consulted by the developers?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3413848193127633, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Proving myself to the more senior employees that have to start using this cloud software"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if your organizational change project could be perceived as a story… Who was the protagonist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Board of directors"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the antagonist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "HR"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What inciting moment motivated the protagonist to start the journey (the what if…)?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4904275770141815, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Board of directors"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the antagonist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "HR"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What inciting moment motivated the protagonist to start the journey (the what if…)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Unfortunately, nothing “sexy” here, just following trends and meeting the requirements of the supervisory board requesting higher profitability and cutting cost"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the biggest conflict?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6560306411268684, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "HR"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What inciting moment motivated the protagonist to start the journey (the what if…)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Unfortunately, nothing “sexy” here, just following trends and meeting the requirements of the supervisory board requesting higher profitability and cutting cost"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the biggest conflict?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Between the HR who was sponsoring the change project and people that have witnessed their friends and colleagues being laid off because of this new software."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the genre of this story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8400340456965203, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Unfortunately, nothing “sexy” here, just following trends and meeting the requirements of the supervisory board requesting higher profitability and cutting cost"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the biggest conflict?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Between the HR who was sponsoring the change project and people that have witnessed their friends and colleagues being laid off because of this new software."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the genre of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A documentary"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the moral of this story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0444822729961336, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Between the HR who was sponsoring the change project and people that have witnessed their friends and colleagues being laid off because of this new software."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the genre of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A documentary"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the moral of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Big money doesn’t care if you like change or not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the dark inversion of this story (good gone bad, or bad gone good)?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.271646969995704, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A documentary"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the moral of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Big money doesn’t care if you like change or not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the dark inversion of this story (good gone bad, or bad gone good)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My ethical principles were heavily scrutinized and I started seeing the world through the eyes of big corporations, not interested in anything but the bottom line."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your most frequently used metaphor?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.524052188884115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Big money doesn’t care if you like change or not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the dark inversion of this story (good gone bad, or bad gone good)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My ethical principles were heavily scrutinized and I started seeing the world through the eyes of big corporations, not interested in anything but the bottom line."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your most frequently used metaphor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We’re here to nip the bud."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your biggest revelation?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8045024320934613, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My ethical principles were heavily scrutinized and I started seeing the world through the eyes of big corporations, not interested in anything but the bottom line."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your most frequently used metaphor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We’re here to nip the bud."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your biggest revelation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A good way to cut people cost is to implement a new software which will “improve productivity”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an anecdote which demonstrates how change recipients were behaving when they had no knowledge of the upcoming organizational change."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1161138134371793, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We’re here to nip the bud."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your biggest revelation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A good way to cut people cost is to implement a new software which will “improve productivity”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an anecdote which demonstrates how change recipients were behaving when they had no knowledge of the upcoming organizational change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well you could think of a traditional post-transition rich corporation where people have big offices and everyone enjoys their workday as an excuse for being paid to socialize. A lot of these people weren’t capable of doing much work at a high level anyway…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how the knowledge of organizational change was initially started?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4623486815968656, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A good way to cut people cost is to implement a new software which will “improve productivity”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an anecdote which demonstrates how change recipients were behaving when they had no knowledge of the upcoming organizational change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well you could think of a traditional post-transition rich corporation where people have big offices and everyone enjoys their workday as an excuse for being paid to socialize. A lot of these people weren’t capable of doing much work at a high level anyway…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how the knowledge of organizational change was initially started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was kicked-off with a typical corporate email, but we were able to secure a strong budget for promotional efforts. So we set up a company-wide event with professional entertainment to make a big event out of it. I can’t recall the actual phrasing though, but it wasn’t anything special."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you articulate the “awakening” moment where the organizational change was formally initiated?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.847054090663184, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well you could think of a traditional post-transition rich corporation where people have big offices and everyone enjoys their workday as an excuse for being paid to socialize. A lot of these people weren’t capable of doing much work at a high level anyway…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how the knowledge of organizational change was initially started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was kicked-off with a typical corporate email, but we were able to secure a strong budget for promotional efforts. So we set up a company-wide event with professional entertainment to make a big event out of it. I can’t recall the actual phrasing though, but it wasn’t anything special."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you articulate the “awakening” moment where the organizational change was formally initiated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well I did my best to convey the message of transformation, how this is the best possible thing and how that is going to ensure that people still keep their jobs, despite the fact that a lot of people actually got fired."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did change recipients express doubt towards the change project?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.2745045451813155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was kicked-off with a typical corporate email, but we were able to secure a strong budget for promotional efforts. So we set up a company-wide event with professional entertainment to make a big event out of it. I can’t recall the actual phrasing though, but it wasn’t anything special."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you articulate the “awakening” moment where the organizational change was formally initiated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well I did my best to convey the message of transformation, how this is the best possible thing and how that is going to ensure that people still keep their jobs, despite the fact that a lot of people actually got fired."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did change recipients express doubt towards the change project?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were pretty vocal about it, saying that this was all just a conspiracy to launder money, reduce costs and justify layovers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how you addressed this challenge?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6383383835347947, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well I did my best to convey the message of transformation, how this is the best possible thing and how that is going to ensure that people still keep their jobs, despite the fact that a lot of people actually got fired."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did change recipients express doubt towards the change project?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were pretty vocal about it, saying that this was all just a conspiracy to launder money, reduce costs and justify layovers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how you addressed this challenge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well I’ve tried my best in explaining that this is the direction in which this organization was moving in, and assured them that I will make sure that nothing is lacking and that noone will be put in danger. I’ve even reached out to HR in order to ensure some guarantees that no additional layovers will be done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an example of growing reluctance to accept the change."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.042598203927549, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were pretty vocal about it, saying that this was all just a conspiracy to launder money, reduce costs and justify layovers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how you addressed this challenge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well I’ve tried my best in explaining that this is the direction in which this organization was moving in, and assured them that I will make sure that nothing is lacking and that noone will be put in danger. I’ve even reached out to HR in order to ensure some guarantees that no additional layovers will be done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an example of growing reluctance to accept the change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well there was definitely an excess of people who were resistant to change and opposed the software usage. They were participating in testing sessions and frequently complained about various meaningless specifics that were supposed to portray the software as useless. The more people got involved in testing sessions, the stronger this alliance building activities grew."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was challenging you the most?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3806646710306105, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well I’ve tried my best in explaining that this is the direction in which this organization was moving in, and assured them that I will make sure that nothing is lacking and that noone will be put in danger. I’ve even reached out to HR in order to ensure some guarantees that no additional layovers will be done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an example of growing reluctance to accept the change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well there was definitely an excess of people who were resistant to change and opposed the software usage. They were participating in testing sessions and frequently complained about various meaningless specifics that were supposed to portray the software as useless. The more people got involved in testing sessions, the stronger this alliance building activities grew."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was challenging you the most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Interestingly, engineers from Production, whose colleagues were dominantly laid off during the first phase of the project. One of their comments was: “There is no amount of perfume that can hide the stench of death coming from people working in HR”."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve “acceptance”?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.7562940789229007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well there was definitely an excess of people who were resistant to change and opposed the software usage. They were participating in testing sessions and frequently complained about various meaningless specifics that were supposed to portray the software as useless. The more people got involved in testing sessions, the stronger this alliance building activities grew."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was challenging you the most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Interestingly, engineers from Production, whose colleagues were dominantly laid off during the first phase of the project. One of their comments was: “There is no amount of perfume that can hide the stench of death coming from people working in HR”."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve “acceptance”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well we were moving back and forth, it was more of a continuum instead of a positive and definite state. We coerced these resistance members to participate in formal events, and threatened to report them to their superiors, which quickly yielded results."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to change recipients?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.0625489765810006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Interestingly, engineers from Production, whose colleagues were dominantly laid off during the first phase of the project. One of their comments was: “There is no amount of perfume that can hide the stench of death coming from people working in HR”."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve “acceptance”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well we were moving back and forth, it was more of a continuum instead of a positive and definite state. We coerced these resistance members to participate in formal events, and threatened to report them to their superiors, which quickly yielded results."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My team included managers from different levels and we agreed on how we would like to approach the general audience in terms of communication. We emphasized that this was just the first phase and that there will be extensive education available for people to learn how to use the software. Kotter’s model helped a lot here, as it was the foundation for our implementation plan."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how change recipients experimented with available knowledge after accepting change?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2917210850900007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well we were moving back and forth, it was more of a continuum instead of a positive and definite state. We coerced these resistance members to participate in formal events, and threatened to report them to their superiors, which quickly yielded results."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My team included managers from different levels and we agreed on how we would like to approach the general audience in terms of communication. We emphasized that this was just the first phase and that there will be extensive education available for people to learn how to use the software. Kotter’s model helped a lot here, as it was the foundation for our implementation plan."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how change recipients experimented with available knowledge after accepting change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well once they started clicking through the system, they were quickly thinking of ways to furthermore improve the software, since our on-site consultants were coordinating the work with the third party development company. It was more about “what’s wrong with this software” than it was about selling its benefits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the moment of “big change” that initiated this positive change in attitudes of change recipients?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4352456501000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My team included managers from different levels and we agreed on how we would like to approach the general audience in terms of communication. We emphasized that this was just the first phase and that there will be extensive education available for people to learn how to use the software. Kotter’s model helped a lot here, as it was the foundation for our implementation plan."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how change recipients experimented with available knowledge after accepting change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well once they started clicking through the system, they were quickly thinking of ways to furthermore improve the software, since our on-site consultants were coordinating the work with the third party development company. It was more about “what’s wrong with this software” than it was about selling its benefits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the moment of “big change” that initiated this positive change in attitudes of change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely the formal go live deadline that I intentionally communicated with a buffer, giving the team an extra couple of days to pull the workload and get things done. I guess it showed the team that I was on their side and they wanted to repay the favor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who did you reach out to first when experimenting after this “big change”?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5947173890000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well once they started clicking through the system, they were quickly thinking of ways to furthermore improve the software, since our on-site consultants were coordinating the work with the third party development company. It was more about “what’s wrong with this software” than it was about selling its benefits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the moment of “big change” that initiated this positive change in attitudes of change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely the formal go live deadline that I intentionally communicated with a buffer, giving the team an extra couple of days to pull the workload and get things done. I guess it showed the team that I was on their side and they wanted to repay the favor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who did you reach out to first when experimenting after this “big change”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well I went to talk with my biggest opponent, a fairly influential manager from Production in an effort to clear the air. I wanted to showcase respect and try to get her onboard by openly trash talking the software and asking for her expert opinion on furthermore improvement."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how these events went?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7719082100000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely the formal go live deadline that I intentionally communicated with a buffer, giving the team an extra couple of days to pull the workload and get things done. I guess it showed the team that I was on their side and they wanted to repay the favor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who did you reach out to first when experimenting after this “big change”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well I went to talk with my biggest opponent, a fairly influential manager from Production in an effort to clear the air. I wanted to showcase respect and try to get her onboard by openly trash talking the software and asking for her expert opinion on furthermore improvement."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how these events went?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It didn’t really go as I planned as emotional reactions were still pretty strong. I had the feeling that the more I pushed, the less I was able to achieve and the more I was feeling exhausted. Now that I think about it, I think I never really managed to get her onboard despite my best efforts, I was probably doing something wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to your change recipients after they expressed doubt for the second time?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9687869000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well I went to talk with my biggest opponent, a fairly influential manager from Production in an effort to clear the air. I wanted to showcase respect and try to get her onboard by openly trash talking the software and asking for her expert opinion on furthermore improvement."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how these events went?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It didn’t really go as I planned as emotional reactions were still pretty strong. I had the feeling that the more I pushed, the less I was able to achieve and the more I was feeling exhausted. Now that I think about it, I think I never really managed to get her onboard despite my best efforts, I was probably doing something wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to your change recipients after they expressed doubt for the second time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I tried my best in showing that this doubt was a normal part of the process and that I was experiencing a similar sensation, simply because there was just too much work to do, and the deadlines were really stiff and hard to manage. Projects like this tend to take a turn for the worse for some inexplicable reason, and I guess it’s my job to mitigate this effect and make sure that people who are supposed to use this software don’t get burned with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall who was the loudest and how you addressed these comments?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.1875410000000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It didn’t really go as I planned as emotional reactions were still pretty strong. I had the feeling that the more I pushed, the less I was able to achieve and the more I was feeling exhausted. Now that I think about it, I think I never really managed to get her onboard despite my best efforts, I was probably doing something wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to your change recipients after they expressed doubt for the second time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I tried my best in showing that this doubt was a normal part of the process and that I was experiencing a similar sensation, simply because there was just too much work to do, and the deadlines were really stiff and hard to manage. Projects like this tend to take a turn for the worse for some inexplicable reason, and I guess it’s my job to mitigate this effect and make sure that people who are supposed to use this software don’t get burned with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall who was the loudest and how you addressed these comments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "After this second doubt phase after our go-live, one of my biggest allies from our inhouse business solutions department started publicly expressing doubt in a fairly aggressive manner, leaving some of my bluffs exposed. This played out pretty bad for me, but I was thinking that I already lost, so I might as well try to pull off something dramatical and try to reconcile this conflict. I think the effect was 50:50, in a sense that I’ve gone into a conflict with this manager, then publicly reconciled the conflict, but the scars still remained and the people weren’t all that convinced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through how you handled this second round of growing reluctance among change recipients."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.31949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I tried my best in showing that this doubt was a normal part of the process and that I was experiencing a similar sensation, simply because there was just too much work to do, and the deadlines were really stiff and hard to manage. Projects like this tend to take a turn for the worse for some inexplicable reason, and I guess it’s my job to mitigate this effect and make sure that people who are supposed to use this software don’t get burned with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall who was the loudest and how you addressed these comments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "After this second doubt phase after our go-live, one of my biggest allies from our inhouse business solutions department started publicly expressing doubt in a fairly aggressive manner, leaving some of my bluffs exposed. This played out pretty bad for me, but I was thinking that I already lost, so I might as well try to pull off something dramatical and try to reconcile this conflict. I think the effect was 50:50, in a sense that I’ve gone into a conflict with this manager, then publicly reconciled the conflict, but the scars still remained and the people weren’t all that convinced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through how you handled this second round of growing reluctance among change recipients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As these influential managers started openly discussing the purpose of this project, I was under the impression that there was quite a lot of work being done on keeping the resistance energized. So I started provoking reactions implying that their energy wasn’t well spent and that we could have done better if they had focused on the implementation instead of ranting. I was aware that I couldn’t handle this myself and by talking individually to the core team members, so I asked for support form the senior leadership. CFO was a fairly strong ally and a powerful ally, however her perception within the organization wasn’t all that good, since she was pinned as the “criminal” behind layovers. In the end I managed to get some support from the Sales director, who proved to be the voice of reason and stabilize the riot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the biggest obstacles during this stage?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4661, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "After this second doubt phase after our go-live, one of my biggest allies from our inhouse business solutions department started publicly expressing doubt in a fairly aggressive manner, leaving some of my bluffs exposed. This played out pretty bad for me, but I was thinking that I already lost, so I might as well try to pull off something dramatical and try to reconcile this conflict. I think the effect was 50:50, in a sense that I’ve gone into a conflict with this manager, then publicly reconciled the conflict, but the scars still remained and the people weren’t all that convinced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through how you handled this second round of growing reluctance among change recipients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As these influential managers started openly discussing the purpose of this project, I was under the impression that there was quite a lot of work being done on keeping the resistance energized. So I started provoking reactions implying that their energy wasn’t well spent and that we could have done better if they had focused on the implementation instead of ranting. I was aware that I couldn’t handle this myself and by talking individually to the core team members, so I asked for support form the senior leadership. CFO was a fairly strong ally and a powerful ally, however her perception within the organization wasn’t all that good, since she was pinned as the “criminal” behind layovers. In the end I managed to get some support from the Sales director, who proved to be the voice of reason and stabilize the riot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the biggest obstacles during this stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess the biggest obstacles were the fact that people started doubting all those benefits that I was proclaiming at the beginning, and started focusing on all the faults of the projects. They all shared a common sensation of being threatened and suffering from survivor's guilt or some PTSD, I don’t know. There were some strong emotions involved definitely, and me advocating for the project wasn’t received as genuine or authentic, but was perceived as being the messenger of death."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall the most difficult conversation you’ve had to manage during this phase?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.629, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As these influential managers started openly discussing the purpose of this project, I was under the impression that there was quite a lot of work being done on keeping the resistance energized. So I started provoking reactions implying that their energy wasn’t well spent and that we could have done better if they had focused on the implementation instead of ranting. I was aware that I couldn’t handle this myself and by talking individually to the core team members, so I asked for support form the senior leadership. CFO was a fairly strong ally and a powerful ally, however her perception within the organization wasn’t all that good, since she was pinned as the “criminal” behind layovers. In the end I managed to get some support from the Sales director, who proved to be the voice of reason and stabilize the riot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the biggest obstacles during this stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess the biggest obstacles were the fact that people started doubting all those benefits that I was proclaiming at the beginning, and started focusing on all the faults of the projects. They all shared a common sensation of being threatened and suffering from survivor's guilt or some PTSD, I don’t know. There were some strong emotions involved definitely, and me advocating for the project wasn’t received as genuine or authentic, but was perceived as being the messenger of death."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall the most difficult conversation you’ve had to manage during this phase?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Honestly, I can’t put my finger on a specific one, since they were pretty similar. I had to endure ad hominem attacks on me and the project, without having the liberty to respond in a fully open and honest way. I guess the part about me being from HR and smelling like death really struck a chord with me and rubbed me the wrong way, especially coming from a person with low emotional intelligence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote covering the regression of change recipients from the stage of accepting change towards resisting change again."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess the biggest obstacles were the fact that people started doubting all those benefits that I was proclaiming at the beginning, and started focusing on all the faults of the projects. They all shared a common sensation of being threatened and suffering from survivor's guilt or some PTSD, I don’t know. There were some strong emotions involved definitely, and me advocating for the project wasn’t received as genuine or authentic, but was perceived as being the messenger of death."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall the most difficult conversation you’ve had to manage during this phase?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Honestly, I can’t put my finger on a specific one, since they were pretty similar. I had to endure ad hominem attacks on me and the project, without having the liberty to respond in a fully open and honest way. I guess the part about me being from HR and smelling like death really struck a chord with me and rubbed me the wrong way, especially coming from a person with low emotional intelligence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote covering the regression of change recipients from the stage of accepting change towards resisting change again."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well that’s definitely an extension of this growing resentment and questioning if we’ve even done anything or if we were just clicking through all of those excel sheets. The biggest regression moment was when we had to report our progress and we realized that the rest of the organization in other countries was facing similar problems, where this project didn’t really make sense on a larger scale. All that work appeared to have been done for nothing, and all those people were laid off without a meaningful reason. Everything quickly turned into a meaningless effort."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the most important insights from this stage in your opinion?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Honestly, I can’t put my finger on a specific one, since they were pretty similar. I had to endure ad hominem attacks on me and the project, without having the liberty to respond in a fully open and honest way. I guess the part about me being from HR and smelling like death really struck a chord with me and rubbed me the wrong way, especially coming from a person with low emotional intelligence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote covering the regression of change recipients from the stage of accepting change towards resisting change again."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well that’s definitely an extension of this growing resentment and questioning if we’ve even done anything or if we were just clicking through all of those excel sheets. The biggest regression moment was when we had to report our progress and we realized that the rest of the organization in other countries was facing similar problems, where this project didn’t really make sense on a larger scale. All that work appeared to have been done for nothing, and all those people were laid off without a meaningful reason. Everything quickly turned into a meaningless effort."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the most important insights from this stage in your opinion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess I wasn’t aware of how important it was to manage expectations on a more frequent basis, instead of just rushing through results and “riding the momentum”, as Kotter suggests in the model. I guess that momentum was actually just the first spark which needed a bit more tending to, instead of rushing into the project. I guess a bit more ownership could have made this phase more successful, or at least minimize the damage done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the most resilient and how did you handle this challenge?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well that’s definitely an extension of this growing resentment and questioning if we’ve even done anything or if we were just clicking through all of those excel sheets. The biggest regression moment was when we had to report our progress and we realized that the rest of the organization in other countries was facing similar problems, where this project didn’t really make sense on a larger scale. All that work appeared to have been done for nothing, and all those people were laid off without a meaningful reason. Everything quickly turned into a meaningless effort."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the most important insights from this stage in your opinion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess I wasn’t aware of how important it was to manage expectations on a more frequent basis, instead of just rushing through results and “riding the momentum”, as Kotter suggests in the model. I guess that momentum was actually just the first spark which needed a bit more tending to, instead of rushing into the project. I guess a bit more ownership could have made this phase more successful, or at least minimize the damage done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the most resilient and how did you handle this challenge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Quite a lot of people showed tremendous resilience, and I think the biggest surprise was how HR was useless and had enjoyed the perception of “incompetent bad guys that only think about money”. There wasn’t a lot that I could do honestly, I felt that the whole world was against me, and that there was simply no way that I could win this project. I sincerely thought about quitting as it didn’t make any sense for me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through the process of reawakening change acceptance within change recipients."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess I wasn’t aware of how important it was to manage expectations on a more frequent basis, instead of just rushing through results and “riding the momentum”, as Kotter suggests in the model. I guess that momentum was actually just the first spark which needed a bit more tending to, instead of rushing into the project. I guess a bit more ownership could have made this phase more successful, or at least minimize the damage done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the most resilient and how did you handle this challenge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Quite a lot of people showed tremendous resilience, and I think the biggest surprise was how HR was useless and had enjoyed the perception of “incompetent bad guys that only think about money”. There wasn’t a lot that I could do honestly, I felt that the whole world was against me, and that there was simply no way that I could win this project. I sincerely thought about quitting as it didn’t make any sense for me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through the process of reawakening change acceptance within change recipients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To tell you the truth, I think this was only reported for political reasons, and wasn’t truly happening when I was working on that project. In fact, retrospectively, I think that this change acceptance is still going on, even though the project has been “finished” for over 9 months now. A political acceptance and formal end of implementation was completed, but I’m thinking it will be accepted when there won’t be any other options available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve it and what were the early signs of them experiencing reawakening?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Quite a lot of people showed tremendous resilience, and I think the biggest surprise was how HR was useless and had enjoyed the perception of “incompetent bad guys that only think about money”. There wasn’t a lot that I could do honestly, I felt that the whole world was against me, and that there was simply no way that I could win this project. I sincerely thought about quitting as it didn’t make any sense for me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through the process of reawakening change acceptance within change recipients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To tell you the truth, I think this was only reported for political reasons, and wasn’t truly happening when I was working on that project. In fact, retrospectively, I think that this change acceptance is still going on, even though the project has been “finished” for over 9 months now. A political acceptance and formal end of implementation was completed, but I’m thinking it will be accepted when there won’t be any other options available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve it and what were the early signs of them experiencing reawakening?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was not formal reawakening, it was just a formal checkpoint where employees had to demonstrate their software use know-how, and that’s where the story ended."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was your strongest ally at this stage?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To tell you the truth, I think this was only reported for political reasons, and wasn’t truly happening when I was working on that project. In fact, retrospectively, I think that this change acceptance is still going on, even though the project has been “finished” for over 9 months now. A political acceptance and formal end of implementation was completed, but I’m thinking it will be accepted when there won’t be any other options available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve it and what were the early signs of them experiencing reawakening?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was not formal reawakening, it was just a formal checkpoint where employees had to demonstrate their software use know-how, and that’s where the story ended."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was your strongest ally at this stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess HR, coincidentally the most despised department in the organization, was my strongest ally since we were relying on formal coercion, which forced the people to start talking about actual results and getting things done. Sadly, but I guess they never got a clear understanding of what the benefits were supposed to be…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote which could illuminate how this final stage of reacceptance was unfolding within the organization?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was not formal reawakening, it was just a formal checkpoint where employees had to demonstrate their software use know-how, and that’s where the story ended."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was your strongest ally at this stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess HR, coincidentally the most despised department in the organization, was my strongest ally since we were relying on formal coercion, which forced the people to start talking about actual results and getting things done. Sadly, but I guess they never got a clear understanding of what the benefits were supposed to be…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote which could illuminate how this final stage of reacceptance was unfolding within the organization?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing special, to be honest… Coercion was in full motion and everyone played along, nominally complying, but continuing to report all the negative aspects of the software."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the first signs of successful transformation with change recipients?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess HR, coincidentally the most despised department in the organization, was my strongest ally since we were relying on formal coercion, which forced the people to start talking about actual results and getting things done. Sadly, but I guess they never got a clear understanding of what the benefits were supposed to be…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote which could illuminate how this final stage of reacceptance was unfolding within the organization?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing special, to be honest… Coercion was in full motion and everyone played along, nominally complying, but continuing to report all the negative aspects of the software."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the first signs of successful transformation with change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t say the transformation was successful, it was more of a facade…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you recognize the occurrence of true mastery in accepting change?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing special, to be honest… Coercion was in full motion and everyone played along, nominally complying, but continuing to report all the negative aspects of the software."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the first signs of successful transformation with change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t say the transformation was successful, it was more of a facade…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you recognize the occurrence of true mastery in accepting change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This true mastery you mention wasn’t present, I guess my mastery was more relevant, since I managed to control my emotions and deal with these people who were continuously sabotaging my project. But this is a company that has no true consequences for blockers, as long as you demonstrate “some” work and effort, you’re good to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main point you managed to get across?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t say the transformation was successful, it was more of a facade…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you recognize the occurrence of true mastery in accepting change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This true mastery you mention wasn’t present, I guess my mastery was more relevant, since I managed to control my emotions and deal with these people who were continuously sabotaging my project. But this is a company that has no true consequences for blockers, as long as you demonstrate “some” work and effort, you’re good to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main point you managed to get across?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m just doing my job, and you are punishing me because of the issues you are having with the management team. Your dissatisfaction shouldn’t be manifested by blocking my project…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the most important thing to highlight here?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00006:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This true mastery you mention wasn’t present, I guess my mastery was more relevant, since I managed to control my emotions and deal with these people who were continuously sabotaging my project. But this is a company that has no true consequences for blockers, as long as you demonstrate “some” work and effort, you’re good to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main point you managed to get across?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m just doing my job, and you are punishing me because of the issues you are having with the management team. Your dissatisfaction shouldn’t be manifested by blocking my project…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the most important thing to highlight here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Allies are super important, however they don’t guarantee success. You have to manage to portray yourself as one of them, and not as another pawn that the management has installed to control the mass. Politics, politics."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, I think we got everything, thanks again for taking the time to do this."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.576095525168273, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK cool, that sounds good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, great. Let me pull up my question list. So, Fred, how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am 31."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where are you located?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The United States."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is your current job?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.195661694631414, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am 31."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where are you located?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The United States."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is your current job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm a paramedic at an ambulance company, a private ambulance company."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long have you been there?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.772957438479349, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The United States."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is your current job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm a paramedic at an ambulance company, a private ambulance company."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long have you been there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I've been there for about six years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is this your only job?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.414397153865943, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm a paramedic at an ambulance company, a private ambulance company."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long have you been there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I've been there for about six years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is this your only job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yes, it is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You volunteer anywhere?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.127107948739937, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I've been there for about six years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is this your only job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yes, it is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You volunteer anywhere?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. No, I did have like two jobs going on for a little while, but I just I just stick to this now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what was your job in January of 2020?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.919008831933263, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yes, it is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You volunteer anywhere?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. No, I did have like two jobs going on for a little while, but I just I just stick to this now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what was your job in January of 2020?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was still a paramedic at the same ambulance company that I'm at now, dealing with a covid outbreak."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when did you first hear about covid?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.576676479925848, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. No, I did have like two jobs going on for a little while, but I just I just stick to this now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what was your job in January of 2020?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was still a paramedic at the same ambulance company that I'm at now, dealing with a covid outbreak."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when did you first hear about covid?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess it was around that time. Must have been January. February. I don't keep up with news too much. It's pretty much just stuff I see mostly Facebook. So I guess I was like, run the first time that I heard about it was in January. I guess I was like everybody else. It was a it was something that was like new.\n\nIt seemed really scary. It seemed something to be taken seriously. And I guess I was just as much up in arms about it as everybody else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you expand on that?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 8.246239075927974, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'd say it was definitely earlier than it was later because like the highest fear was at the beginning. So it was around that time where, you know, it became it became it's it became seen that like we were, you know, we're not going to be the ones who are going to be sent home to stay home; we're going to be the people who are still open.\n\nRight. So we still essential employees. So, you know, we still had to show up. We had to show up at work. We still had to deal with those patients. So it was around that time that people were like they were really just like Self-reflecting and being like, should I be out here putting myself at risk when I'm still putting my family members at risk, too?\n\nSo people were, you know, deciding whether they wanted to stay or not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you said these were a lot of the older…?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Correct? Yeah. The people who might have had some some co-morbidities like diabetes or anything like that or people who were taking care of their elderly family members."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did that change at all how you perceived the crisis?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it did. It changed over time. Like everyone else at the beginning, I was I was pretty fearful since I'm in the front lines anyway.\n\nI guess I guess my opinion changed on a line when it started to be when I started to become like really politicized. I really didn't like it, it seemed that we were just well, like I said before, it just seemed like people were kind of like taking sides. And it started to be like not a medical issue. It started to be like, not a medical question.\n\nI mean, and I don't know, it just, it just got really it got really nuts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When sort of when, do you think the politization started?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.804025598956754, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wow, yeah. Yeah. I mean, even, even faced with death, they still have to. You should still be able to decide for yourself what you want your medical interventions to be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So speaking of deciding for yourself, actually, in this period of like January to March, the early, early period before it hit, did you change your behavior at all."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As far as like socially?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m trying to think. Well, I definitely saw my friends less. I mean, I don't know if that was a result of me choosing to do that or just because it was important for people not to leave the house or, you know, being like being like forced to not leave essentially. I definitely I guess I definitely took my time to give more distance between, you know, me and whoever I'm standing with online, but that's probably about it.\n\nI guess I didn't change too much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So again, like you said, you you were keeping up on things. It seems scary early."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.226695109951949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As far as like socially?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m trying to think. Well, I definitely saw my friends less. I mean, I don't know if that was a result of me choosing to do that or just because it was important for people not to leave the house or, you know, being like being like forced to not leave essentially. I definitely I guess I definitely took my time to give more distance between, you know, me and whoever I'm standing with online, but that's probably about it.\n\nI guess I didn't change too much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So again, like you said, you you were keeping up on things. It seems scary early."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And again, just in the January to March period, did your perception of COVID change at all over that time?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.69632789994661, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m trying to think. Well, I definitely saw my friends less. I mean, I don't know if that was a result of me choosing to do that or just because it was important for people not to leave the house or, you know, being like being like forced to not leave essentially. I definitely I guess I definitely took my time to give more distance between, you know, me and whoever I'm standing with online, but that's probably about it.\n\nI guess I didn't change too much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So again, like you said, you you were keeping up on things. It seems scary early."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And again, just in the January to March period, did your perception of COVID change at all over that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the time, I think I really dug my heels in and I don't think my opinion really changed until later, probably later in the year. OK, but from January to March, it seemed to be it was pretty much the same. It was something to be to be not taken lightly. It seemed to be something I was like really dangerous and you see firsthand the fucking hospitals are just full.\n\nSo I don't think it was I don't think my opinion of it changed at that point. I was still like scared. I was still like, man, people aren't take it serious enough. I think I was still in that mindset."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a eureka moment, or an oh shit moment when you realized how bad it was going to be?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.268996746481, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For them. Yeah, I would imagine because you just, you're just going from place to place and you don't really have any patient contact. It's pretty much just like, you know, they gowned you up and then they cleaned the truck afterwards. And I think they also handled paperwork from the facility that you're sending to the facility that you're ending up at.\n\nBut I don't think they actually had any patient contact."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there any- were there any meetings or group discussions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not informally, but we did have meetings for just like say, well, this this was also all part of the one meeting that we had, and it was to go and get training for the PAPR. So I guess they sent out they did send out emails about what we should and should not be doing as far as isolation is concerned.\n\nAnd then we had a meeting for PAPR and like what we're supposed to do with the PAPR and stuff, but we didn't have there was no discussion about whether or not hey, this is the right thing to do or wrong thing to do as far as like socially or morally, we didn't have those kind of direct discussions as far as that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when the PAPR thing was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m trying to think, I think it was pretty early on that became came upon that stuff. I guess it was a I want to say like March, April, something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so after, after it had hit."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.52110749609, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not informally, but we did have meetings for just like say, well, this this was also all part of the one meeting that we had, and it was to go and get training for the PAPR. So I guess they sent out they did send out emails about what we should and should not be doing as far as isolation is concerned.\n\nAnd then we had a meeting for PAPR and like what we're supposed to do with the PAPR and stuff, but we didn't have there was no discussion about whether or not hey, this is the right thing to do or wrong thing to do as far as like socially or morally, we didn't have those kind of direct discussions as far as that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when the PAPR thing was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m trying to think, I think it was pretty early on that became came upon that stuff. I guess it was a I want to say like March, April, something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so after, after it had hit."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was, it was, it was afterwards. And if we were I guess they were trying to look for something that would be some kind of a good answer. So they, it took some time to find it, but don't call me on it. Don’t quote me on it but I want to say, I believe it was around March or April."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so is there anything that you wish that your employer had done differently?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6901194401000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m trying to think, I think it was pretty early on that became came upon that stuff. I guess it was a I want to say like March, April, something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so after, after it had hit."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was, it was, it was afterwards. And if we were I guess they were trying to look for something that would be some kind of a good answer. So they, it took some time to find it, but don't call me on it. Don’t quote me on it but I want to say, I believe it was around March or April."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so is there anything that you wish that your employer had done differently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I mean I mean, they were pretty thorough and or I mean, at least thorough as they could be. some things seemed like they didn't really make sense. But I guess at the end of the day, it's kind of just like, well, you know, no one really has a perfect answer. So this is the best thing that we could do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about you personally as an individual."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8779104890000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was, it was, it was afterwards. And if we were I guess they were trying to look for something that would be some kind of a good answer. So they, it took some time to find it, but don't call me on it. Don’t quote me on it but I want to say, I believe it was around March or April."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so is there anything that you wish that your employer had done differently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I mean I mean, they were pretty thorough and or I mean, at least thorough as they could be. some things seemed like they didn't really make sense. But I guess at the end of the day, it's kind of just like, well, you know, no one really has a perfect answer. So this is the best thing that we could do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about you personally as an individual."}, {"role": "user", "content": "About as far as I what."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In doing things differently. In, you know, the January to March period."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.08656721, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I mean I mean, they were pretty thorough and or I mean, at least thorough as they could be. some things seemed like they didn't really make sense. But I guess at the end of the day, it's kind of just like, well, you know, no one really has a perfect answer. So this is the best thing that we could do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about you personally as an individual."}, {"role": "user", "content": "About as far as I what."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In doing things differently. In, you know, the January to March period."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I definitely cleaned my stuff a whole lot more. You know, I bring like a I bring a bag of stuff in and now from the job, we also carry around another bag that has all these different masks inside. So I bring a lot of stuff in. So it's important for me to keep that stuff sanitary before I bring it home, because I'm not trying to you know, I'm not trying to end up in court because I'm not trying to lose my job.\n\nYou know, I don't want somebody, you know, ended up sick, basically, because of something stupid I did. So I definitely sanitize more. I wipe down my boots more than than I ever did before. Even my car I wipe down the steering wheel a whole lot more than I used to. So I just tried to I guess I brought those kind of ideas back home with me.\n\nAs far as like keeping everything super sanitary."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I have a few wrap up questions. So what would you like to tell me about the way you were feeling in this January? To March period?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.49049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess I guess you as like a layperson who may not be involved in EMS, even though I know you were but I'm saying like, I guess figuratively so. Yeah. So I guess just it's not something I don't think you should be taking it lightly as far as like conversations now where it's like mask mandates or not. I would say look, the mask help.\n\nIf you want to wear one, please do. Most people in the country right now, I believe are vaccinated. So the cases are I think I'm pretty sure the less now than they were, at least at the beginning. Hospitals are being you know, they're they're being packed no matter what. And it seems like we just don't have the resources to handle everything.\n\nBut I would say, listen, man, if you want to wear masks where one I would say you can't really tell other people what to do as far as medical interventions are concerned. I would say do whatever you can yourself to keep yourself safe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. But it's over- the you have your position on what you should do to keep yourself safe, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you realized that this was going to be a big deal pretty early."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did you arrive at that conclusion?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you realized that this was going to be a big deal pretty early."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did you arrive at that conclusion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, so so my position at the beginning as far as now, that's what you're saying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not not from here to now. Just tell me about how it was."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did you arrive at that conclusion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, so so my position at the beginning as far as now, that's what you're saying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not not from here to now. Just tell me about how it was."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, it was not it was it was really crazy. It was something that I'd never experienced before. You know, this isn't the first time that we've had that contagious thing going around, right? I mean, we have we have so many things that are contagious and how we're dealing with it. Now, as far as COVID, I guess it's just because it was something new and something to be feared, and media and political parties, we lit a fire under it to to really have this this response of like we really need to take care of this thing.\n\nAnd I find it to be odd because like so many things, so many things that we know are contagious and really has a pretty high mortality rate. But I don't know, I guess I like I said before, I think it's something that that you shouldn't take lightly, but you should do whatever you can to keep yourself safe.\n\nAnd as far as my position on being a medical personnel, you can't tell somebody what to do with their body as far as medical interventions, you know, you just you just can't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any question that you think I should have asked that I didn't?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, so so my position at the beginning as far as now, that's what you're saying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not not from here to now. Just tell me about how it was."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, it was not it was it was really crazy. It was something that I'd never experienced before. You know, this isn't the first time that we've had that contagious thing going around, right? I mean, we have we have so many things that are contagious and how we're dealing with it. Now, as far as COVID, I guess it's just because it was something new and something to be feared, and media and political parties, we lit a fire under it to to really have this this response of like we really need to take care of this thing.\n\nAnd I find it to be odd because like so many things, so many things that we know are contagious and really has a pretty high mortality rate. But I don't know, I guess I like I said before, I think it's something that that you shouldn't take lightly, but you should do whatever you can to keep yourself safe.\n\nAnd as far as my position on being a medical personnel, you can't tell somebody what to do with their body as far as medical interventions, you know, you just you just can't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any question that you think I should have asked that I didn't?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I feel like I feel like it was pretty was pretty thorough. I feel like you did a pretty good job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you. And anything else you want to tell me?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I feel like I feel like it was pretty was pretty thorough. I feel like you did a pretty good job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you. And anything else you want to tell me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess not. I guess I guess. Just stay safe, man. Just stay out there and stay safe. Try to knock, not dig your heels in as far as which side you want to take on it because I know it's it's a very political it's a very politically charged question or issue, rather. So I think that you should really, everybody should take a step back and really have an open mind about the new information that's coming out.\n\nAnd you shouldn't dig your heels in, make a decision, and then just stay with that decision when new information is coming out. I think you should always be open minded to different stuff that's coming in that's reputable and really taken into consideration as far as your health and your family's health. And you shouldn't. I just want people to be open minded.\n\nIt's OK to change your opinion on stuff as information comes out. So like me, I was very scared at the beginning, you know, now I see that things have really died down. Like I haven't worn a PAPR since then, you know what I mean? So it's you know, I think it's that people just should be very open minded and they should take care of themselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, it seems like this was a pretty clear goal for you from the beginning."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, you know, the goal is, the goal is to stay safe. It really is regardless of what stance you have or like what God you pray to, man. You just got to stay safe out there and just you just just just have an open mind as far as information is coming out. As far as this virus stuff, it's important to keep an open mind and keep yourself objective and keep yourself looking at the facts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A lot of the- there was a lot of new information coming out from January to March."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I did. I was I definitely changed. It's- I definitely changed how I interacted on Facebook a lot. So at the beginning, I felt that it was important to get information out because it was very it was a very popular opinion to be like against it. It seemed like a lot of people were. And some people, you know, a lot of people just seemed to be like, you know, this is something that the politicians should cook up.\n\nIt's not something that's that big of a deal. And so from a medical standpoint, I just shared a lot of meme about like about like about I guess I guess the end point being that people should take it more importantly than they were. I remember one, right? I remember I shared to me and it was like it was like a picture of the dinosaurs and a fucking asteroid is coming down.\n\nAnd it was like something like it was something like the dinosaurs are saying like, oh shit. The economy when like they're fucking dude. So the joke was they're arguing about the economy, but the fucking world is going to end. So like I shared, something like that. But, so, but that was the kind of shit that I would put up, and I probably, I probably shouldn't have, I probably should have been like looked at it more professionally, but the time I like, I just thought it was absurd that people weren't taking it as seriously as they were.\n\nSo I don't know, I wouldn't have done that shit now. I fucking- I try to keep my Facebook more professional than I try to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I've haven’t posted on Facebook in years."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen you on there ever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I only use Instagram now."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I should probably do that too, move to Instagram. A lot of people have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's the same company. So I mean, they already have you data. Anyway."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00004:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen you on there ever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I only use Instagram now."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I should probably do that too, move to Instagram. A lot of people have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's the same company. So I mean, they already have you data. Anyway."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's a good point. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. Yeah, I think that's everything, so I think I’m going to stop recording, unless you have something else to add?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.541446082200063, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let’s use English"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So we are going to ask you a few questions. In this study we want to know how we can provide better care for RHD. There are no right or wrong answers and we ask you to be frank and share your opinion. The data we gather is confidential and will not link your identity to any of the comments in any report that we produce. So first tell me about yourself; how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am 52 years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are your qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "first of all I was an enrolled nurse and then I went for a training of a nursing assistant and then I went back to upgrade for a certificate of a medical officer"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nice to meet you. So where did you train from?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.730180348395139, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "first of all I was an enrolled nurse and then I went for a training of a nursing assistant and then I went back to upgrade for a certificate of a medical officer"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nice to meet you. So where did you train from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean for my nursing or ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nursing"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I trained from Masaka School of nursing and midwifery."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you went on to do a ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.255755942661265, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean for my nursing or ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nursing"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I trained from Masaka School of nursing and midwifery."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you went on to do a ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Still I went back to Masaka School of ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eh, you went back to Masaka!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.617506602956961, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I trained from Masaka School of nursing and midwifery."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you went on to do a ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Still I went back to Masaka School of ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eh, you went back to Masaka!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was introduced there in 2001 from the Mulago Anesthetic Department."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long have you been working here at Buwambo?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.9083406699521785, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Still I went back to Masaka School of ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eh, you went back to Masaka!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was introduced there in 2001 from the Mulago Anesthetic Department."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long have you been working here at Buwambo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is the fourth year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were you before you came here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0092674110579762, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was introduced there in 2001 from the Mulago Anesthetic Department."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long have you been working here at Buwambo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is the fourth year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were you before you came here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I started in Entebbe hospital. This program was started so that we can start individual health centers. So we started this program and when we finished they told us to come back to our health center points. So we came back and we were referred to Masaka and from there I came to Kasangati and then I came to Buwambo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you look at the demographics of the patients for those years that you have practiced, how are they distributed; the age groups? Whom have you been seeing mainly in terms of age group or sex among the patients? Have you been seeing more women or more men?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1214082345088625, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is the fourth year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were you before you came here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I started in Entebbe hospital. This program was started so that we can start individual health centers. So we started this program and when we finished they told us to come back to our health center points. So we came back and we were referred to Masaka and from there I came to Kasangati and then I came to Buwambo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you look at the demographics of the patients for those years that you have practiced, how are they distributed; the age groups? Whom have you been seeing mainly in terms of age group or sex among the patients? Have you been seeing more women or more men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is more women because I am mainly on cases of mothers with caesarean section"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you mainly work on mothers!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2460091494542915, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I started in Entebbe hospital. This program was started so that we can start individual health centers. So we started this program and when we finished they told us to come back to our health center points. So we came back and we were referred to Masaka and from there I came to Kasangati and then I came to Buwambo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you look at the demographics of the patients for those years that you have practiced, how are they distributed; the age groups? Whom have you been seeing mainly in terms of age group or sex among the patients? Have you been seeing more women or more men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is more women because I am mainly on cases of mothers with caesarean section"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you mainly work on mothers!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, maybe ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the common illnesses that you have treated here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3844546105047684, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is more women because I am mainly on cases of mothers with caesarean section"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you mainly work on mothers!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, maybe ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the common illnesses that you have treated here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is malaria and maybe respiratory tract infections and diarrhea but most especially much of the malaria and respiratory tract infections."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how often do you get children presenting with sore throat, adults presenting with sore throat?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5382829005608536, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, maybe ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the common illnesses that you have treated here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is malaria and maybe respiratory tract infections and diarrhea but most especially much of the malaria and respiratory tract infections."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how often do you get children presenting with sore throat, adults presenting with sore throat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about your training in RHD; have you had any specific training in Rheumatic Heart Disease when in school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7092032228453928, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is malaria and maybe respiratory tract infections and diarrhea but most especially much of the malaria and respiratory tract infections."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how often do you get children presenting with sore throat, adults presenting with sore throat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about your training in RHD; have you had any specific training in Rheumatic Heart Disease when in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was still in nursing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you had some bit of training?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8991146920504365, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about your training in RHD; have you had any specific training in Rheumatic Heart Disease when in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was still in nursing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you had some bit of training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, after school did you have any training about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.110127435611596, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was still in nursing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you had some bit of training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, after school did you have any training about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any CME, seminars where they talk about it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2334749284573288, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, after school did you have any training about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any CME, seminars where they talk about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the CMEs when we have some conferences in the field"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But not RHD"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3705276982859207, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any CME, seminars where they talk about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the CMEs when we have some conferences in the field"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But not RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in a month how many RHD patients do you see here in Buwambo?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.522808553651023, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the CMEs when we have some conferences in the field"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But not RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in a month how many RHD patients do you see here in Buwambo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never seen any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when did you last see an RHD patient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.692009504056692, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in a month how many RHD patients do you see here in Buwambo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never seen any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when did you last see an RHD patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was still in training"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in which hospital was that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7688994489518799, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never seen any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when did you last see an RHD patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was still in training"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in which hospital was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mulago hospital."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So here you have never had any one."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8543327210576444, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was still in training"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in which hospital was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mulago hospital."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So here you have never had any one."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then umm, I am now interested in the things they taught you about RHD; so what is your understanding of the causes of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9492585789529382, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mulago hospital."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So here you have never had any one."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then umm, I am now interested in the things they taught you about RHD; so what is your understanding of the causes of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A patient will come with complaints of sore throat and if not treated properly, it can send to the heart maybe and start complaining of heart problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And have you had such patients complaining about sore throat which is not normal?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0547317543921535, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then umm, I am now interested in the things they taught you about RHD; so what is your understanding of the causes of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A patient will come with complaints of sore throat and if not treated properly, it can send to the heart maybe and start complaining of heart problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And have you had such patients complaining about sore throat which is not normal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you handle those patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1719241715468371, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A patient will come with complaints of sore throat and if not treated properly, it can send to the heart maybe and start complaining of heart problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And have you had such patients complaining about sore throat which is not normal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you handle those patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We give them some antibiotics, we start with oral if it's acute, and we give the IV injections and then continue with oral antibiotics, maybe capsules."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do those patients come early or they usually present in late stages?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3021379683853747, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you handle those patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We give them some antibiotics, we start with oral if it's acute, and we give the IV injections and then continue with oral antibiotics, maybe capsules."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do those patients come early or they usually present in late stages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don't come early because we may ask the patient and they say, ‘I've been swallowing some herbs’ these native drugs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they first use herbs before they come!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3357088537615275, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We give them some antibiotics, we start with oral if it's acute, and we give the IV injections and then continue with oral antibiotics, maybe capsules."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do those patients come early or they usually present in late stages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don't come early because we may ask the patient and they say, ‘I've been swallowing some herbs’ these native drugs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they first use herbs before they come!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And at times it starts with flu, so they be like, ‘I have been taking some tablets’ maybe tablets with some Panadol"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This one you have answered it. It was asking; are you aware of any link between RHD and sore throat? Are they associated?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3730098375128083, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don't come early because we may ask the patient and they say, ‘I've been swallowing some herbs’ these native drugs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they first use herbs before they come!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And at times it starts with flu, so they be like, ‘I have been taking some tablets’ maybe tablets with some Panadol"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This one you have answered it. It was asking; are you aware of any link between RHD and sore throat? Are they associated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. I think there maybe but I wasn't aware."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were you told can be done to prevent RHD? What can we do?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.41445537501423146, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And at times it starts with flu, so they be like, ‘I have been taking some tablets’ maybe tablets with some Panadol"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This one you have answered it. It was asking; are you aware of any link between RHD and sore throat? Are they associated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. I think there maybe but I wasn't aware."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were you told can be done to prevent RHD? What can we do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe to give some health information to the public on how someone can approach the health worker very quickly so that she can get treatment early."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then those that have not gotten RHD, what can they do to prevent it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.46050597223803497, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. I think there maybe but I wasn't aware."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were you told can be done to prevent RHD? What can we do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe to give some health information to the public on how someone can approach the health worker very quickly so that she can get treatment early."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then those that have not gotten RHD, what can they do to prevent it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And how can we treat RHD? What were you taught about the treatment of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5116733024867055, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe to give some health information to the public on how someone can approach the health worker very quickly so that she can get treatment early."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then those that have not gotten RHD, what can they do to prevent it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And how can we treat RHD? What were you taught about the treatment of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't know how it's treated!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5685258916518949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And how can we treat RHD? What were you taught about the treatment of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't know how it's treated!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, if they offered training in RHD would you like it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6316954351687721, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't know how it's treated!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, if they offered training in RHD would you like it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which areas would you want to?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7018838168541912, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, if they offered training in RHD would you like it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which areas would you want to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "umm in that ... where you can ask the patient, “have you had any past problems?” before giving medicine to that patient. I would like to have that training; to have some questions before you review that patient. It is also good to review the health of that patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other area would you want to be trained in as far as RHD management? Like what topics?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7798709076157679, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which areas would you want to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "umm in that ... where you can ask the patient, “have you had any past problems?” before giving medicine to that patient. I would like to have that training; to have some questions before you review that patient. It is also good to review the health of that patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other area would you want to be trained in as far as RHD management? Like what topics?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Topics like respiratory tract infections, sore throat, even sore mouth; diseases to do with this system of maybe with the alimentary system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your understanding of the long term prognosis of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8665232306841866, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "umm in that ... where you can ask the patient, “have you had any past problems?” before giving medicine to that patient. I would like to have that training; to have some questions before you review that patient. It is also good to review the health of that patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other area would you want to be trained in as far as RHD management? Like what topics?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Topics like respiratory tract infections, sore throat, even sore mouth; diseases to do with this system of maybe with the alimentary system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your understanding of the long term prognosis of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Someone has a chronic heart which can even cause stroke."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can RHD heal?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9628035896490962, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Topics like respiratory tract infections, sore throat, even sore mouth; diseases to do with this system of maybe with the alimentary system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your understanding of the long term prognosis of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Someone has a chronic heart which can even cause stroke."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can RHD heal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know but if not treated properly well it can cause heart attack which cannot be cured."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you encountered any RHD patients? You said here no!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0697817662767735, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Someone has a chronic heart which can even cause stroke."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can RHD heal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know but if not treated properly well it can cause heart attack which cannot be cured."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you encountered any RHD patients? You said here no!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you encounter them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.1886464069741927, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know but if not treated properly well it can cause heart attack which cannot be cured."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you encountered any RHD patients? You said here no!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you encounter them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when as the last time you encountered an RHD patient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.209607118860214, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you encounter them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when as the last time you encountered an RHD patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About thirteen years back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember how that patient presented? What were the complaints?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2328967987335711, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when as the last time you encountered an RHD patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About thirteen years back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember how that patient presented? What were the complaints?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That had a disease that she complained about difficulty in breathing plus pain, that whenever she would sleep she would feel uncomfortable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did you manage that patient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.258774220815079, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "About thirteen years back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember how that patient presented? What were the complaints?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That had a disease that she complained about difficulty in breathing plus pain, that whenever she would sleep she would feel uncomfortable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did you manage that patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We referred that patient to the consultancy room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During that time how many RHD patients did you see?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28752691201675445, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That had a disease that she complained about difficulty in breathing plus pain, that whenever she would sleep she would feel uncomfortable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did you manage that patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We referred that patient to the consultancy room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During that time how many RHD patients did you see?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were they many or few?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.31947434668528274, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We referred that patient to the consultancy room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During that time how many RHD patients did you see?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were they many or few?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you look at their demographics; how were they? Where they children, adults?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.35497149631698083, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were they many or few?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you look at their demographics; how were they? Where they children, adults?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some were children, some were adults."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But what were they mostly?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.39441277368553423, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you look at their demographics; how were they? Where they children, adults?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some were children, some were adults."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But what were they mostly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were adults."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Working or not working? Were they working adults or mostly at home?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43823641520614914, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some were children, some were adults."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But what were they mostly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were adults."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Working or not working? Were they working adults or mostly at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People who were mostly at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think these patients know the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and RHD? Do they know that those three are associated?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4869293502290546, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were adults."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Working or not working? Were they working adults or mostly at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People who were mostly at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think these patients know the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and RHD? Do they know that those three are associated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they don’t know unless they are taught."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So for the symptoms you said that they complained of chest pain and difficulty in breathing!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5410326113656162, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People who were mostly at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think these patients know the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and RHD? Do they know that those three are associated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they don’t know unless they are taught."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So for the symptoms you said that they complained of chest pain and difficulty in breathing!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about their follow up did they come back when you told them to?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6011473459617958, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they don’t know unless they are taught."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So for the symptoms you said that they complained of chest pain and difficulty in breathing!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about their follow up did they come back when you told them to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they would come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would motivate them to come back?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6679414955131063, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about their follow up did they come back when you told them to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they would come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would motivate them to come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they see they are still ... they are not comfortable with the treatment, of course they come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What things motivated you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7421572172367847, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they would come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would motivate them to come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they see they are still ... they are not comfortable with the treatment, of course they come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What things motivated you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have some that were missing treatment or missing appointments?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8246191302630942, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they see they are still ... they are not comfortable with the treatment, of course they come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What things motivated you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have some that were missing treatment or missing appointments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they were there because we would ask them, “Why have you not come back?” and they be like, “you see I had some problems” or “I didn’t have transport and yet they are coming from far."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9162434780701046, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have some that were missing treatment or missing appointments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they were there because we would ask them, “Why have you not come back?” and they be like, “you see I had some problems” or “I didn’t have transport and yet they are coming from far."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "‘I had some social problems at home.’"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "‘Social’ like which problem?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0180483089667829, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they were there because we would ask them, “Why have you not come back?” and they be like, “you see I had some problems” or “I didn’t have transport and yet they are coming from far."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "‘I had some social problems at home.’"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "‘Social’ like which problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like some problem at their home ... I don’t know how I can explain it. Someone might have an issue at home or a wrangles at home that she has to settle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have the drugs for RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.13116478774087, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "‘I had some social problems at home.’"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "‘Social’ like which problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like some problem at their home ... I don’t know how I can explain it. Someone might have an issue at home or a wrangles at home that she has to settle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have the drugs for RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we used to give drugs that were available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which ones did you give? Do you know the names of the drugs that used to be available?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2568497641565222, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like some problem at their home ... I don’t know how I can explain it. Someone might have an issue at home or a wrangles at home that she has to settle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have the drugs for RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we used to give drugs that were available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which ones did you give? Do you know the names of the drugs that used to be available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Antibiotics"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So for those are the barriers they were telling you; transport, social problems. So how about you; what do you think were the barriers they faced getting treatment?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3964997379516912, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we used to give drugs that were available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which ones did you give? Do you know the names of the drugs that used to be available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Antibiotics"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So for those are the barriers they were telling you; transport, social problems. So how about you; what do you think were the barriers they faced getting treatment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The drugs which are ... maybe there needs to be more enlightenment in the CMEs to know how to treat the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else? What are the other barriers that you can think of?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5516663755018791, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Antibiotics"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So for those are the barriers they were telling you; transport, social problems. So how about you; what do you think were the barriers they faced getting treatment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The drugs which are ... maybe there needs to be more enlightenment in the CMEs to know how to treat the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else? What are the other barriers that you can think of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe and some motivation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in what way?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7240737505576433, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The drugs which are ... maybe there needs to be more enlightenment in the CMEs to know how to treat the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else? What are the other barriers that you can think of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe and some motivation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in what way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some motivation in maybe transport"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that when you give them drugs they take them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9156375006196036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe and some motivation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in what way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some motivation in maybe transport"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that when you give them drugs they take them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so; they take them because they are the ones who are suffering so they have to take them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let us look at the local system barriers; we want to know which pieces are working for you and why you think so. Let’s look at the administration; let’s start with the district; is that one working for you as you do your work here? Do you deal with them here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1284861117995595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some motivation in maybe transport"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that when you give them drugs they take them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so; they take them because they are the ones who are suffering so they have to take them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let us look at the local system barriers; we want to know which pieces are working for you and why you think so. Let’s look at the administration; let’s start with the district; is that one working for you as you do your work here? Do you deal with them here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But with other things when you are working, do you see the administration ... does it contribute to you doing your work? Do you see it motivating you to do your work?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6277606318513076, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But with other things when you are working, do you see the administration ... does it contribute to you doing your work? Do you see it motivating you to do your work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not much"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t give enough supplies, the drugs are not there and you have to explain to the patients, ‘that drug is not there so maybe you have to go and buy it’ and yet that patient doesn’t have much. We have problem in our health centers IIIs and IVs; those drugs are not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where’s the problem; is it the people who bring it in or its coming from ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.919734035390342, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not much"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t give enough supplies, the drugs are not there and you have to explain to the patients, ‘that drug is not there so maybe you have to go and buy it’ and yet that patient doesn’t have much. We have problem in our health centers IIIs and IVs; those drugs are not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where’s the problem; is it the people who bring it in or its coming from ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know where the main problem is, but we put in the requisition but it doesn’t come. I have been in the store but the drugs am supposed use have not yet appeared."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are you going to do with your patient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1330378171003797, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t give enough supplies, the drugs are not there and you have to explain to the patients, ‘that drug is not there so maybe you have to go and buy it’ and yet that patient doesn’t have much. We have problem in our health centers IIIs and IVs; those drugs are not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where’s the problem; is it the people who bring it in or its coming from ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know where the main problem is, but we put in the requisition but it doesn’t come. I have been in the store but the drugs am supposed use have not yet appeared."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are you going to do with your patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I will tell them my in-charge that we don’t have drugs or maybe we look for another way we can anaesthetize the patient because there are those which can be available, for example when mothers are going for anesthesia, these days we use general methods but these days they are not available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your view about the administration within here? Is it working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.370042019000422, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know where the main problem is, but we put in the requisition but it doesn’t come. I have been in the store but the drugs am supposed use have not yet appeared."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are you going to do with your patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I will tell them my in-charge that we don’t have drugs or maybe we look for another way we can anaesthetize the patient because there are those which can be available, for example when mothers are going for anesthesia, these days we use general methods but these days they are not available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your view about the administration within here? Is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[chuckles] I am always in touch with my in-charge. I request for drugs and if they are not there then, she says that they are supposed to be sent by the district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So are you happy? Is it working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.63338002111158, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I will tell them my in-charge that we don’t have drugs or maybe we look for another way we can anaesthetize the patient because there are those which can be available, for example when mothers are going for anesthesia, these days we use general methods but these days they are not available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your view about the administration within here? Is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[chuckles] I am always in touch with my in-charge. I request for drugs and if they are not there then, she says that they are supposed to be sent by the district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So are you happy? Is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, if you look at the funding for health care is it working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9259778012350885, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[chuckles] I am always in touch with my in-charge. I request for drugs and if they are not there then, she says that they are supposed to be sent by the district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So are you happy? Is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, if you look at the funding for health care is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, but they have tried."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they need to improve?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.251086445816765, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, if you look at the funding for health care is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, but they have tried."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they need to improve?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In areas where we are finding problems, maybe in supply of drugs and others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from drugs which other supplies do you normally lack?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.612318273129739, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, but they have tried."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they need to improve?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In areas where we are finding problems, maybe in supply of drugs and others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from drugs which other supplies do you normally lack?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now some of the machines are down; they are not working because they are old so we need to replace them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like what machines?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.013686970144154, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In areas where we are finding problems, maybe in supply of drugs and others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from drugs which other supplies do you normally lack?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now some of the machines are down; they are not working because they are old so we need to replace them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like what machines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our operating table has taken not even ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do they say? Do you raise the issues? What do they say?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.45965218904906, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now some of the machines are down; they are not working because they are old so we need to replace them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like what machines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our operating table has taken not even ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do they say? Do you raise the issues? What do they say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We raised the issue but they say they are still working on it, so maybe they need some time. So if we have a patient with a referral, we don’t have the magnet although it is really not in good condition. Blood bank; we don’t have access to the blood in case a patient needs blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.9551690989434, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our operating table has taken not even ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do they say? Do you raise the issues? What do they say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We raised the issue but they say they are still working on it, so maybe they need some time. So if we have a patient with a referral, we don’t have the magnet although it is really not in good condition. Blood bank; we don’t have access to the blood in case a patient needs blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We really suffer, and indeed we have to get some mortality rates."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the nearest health you send them to?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.283521221048222, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We raised the issue but they say they are still working on it, so maybe they need some time. So if we have a patient with a referral, we don’t have the magnet although it is really not in good condition. Blood bank; we don’t have access to the blood in case a patient needs blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We really suffer, and indeed we have to get some mortality rates."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the nearest health you send them to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course we take them to Kawempe. It is either to Kawempe or Bombo Hospital, in the barracks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then when you look at funding for RHD, how is it? Is it working?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.648356912275802, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We really suffer, and indeed we have to get some mortality rates."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the nearest health you send them to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course we take them to Kawempe. It is either to Kawempe or Bombo Hospital, in the barracks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then when you look at funding for RHD, how is it? Is it working?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really because I am not so much into technical issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the number of health workers; how are they?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9426187914175577, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course we take them to Kawempe. It is either to Kawempe or Bombo Hospital, in the barracks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then when you look at funding for RHD, how is it? Is it working?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really because I am not so much into technical issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the number of health workers; how are they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are few, in fact we need some more. We need more staffs according to the numbers which are supposed to be in a Health Centre IV."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, how about the qualifications of the health workers around? Do you have enough qualified workers?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2695764349083976, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really because I am not so much into technical issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the number of health workers; how are they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are few, in fact we need some more. We need more staffs according to the numbers which are supposed to be in a Health Centre IV."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, how about the qualifications of the health workers around? Do you have enough qualified workers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we have enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any cadre of a health worker who can work on RHD patients here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.632862705453775, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are few, in fact we need some more. We need more staffs according to the numbers which are supposed to be in a Health Centre IV."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, how about the qualifications of the health workers around? Do you have enough qualified workers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we have enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any cadre of a health worker who can work on RHD patients here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the medical officer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many do you have here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9254030060597502, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we have enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any cadre of a health worker who can work on RHD patients here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the medical officer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many do you have here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they are around!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2504477845108335, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the medical officer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many do you have here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they are around!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right now they are not but when we call them, they come."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the waiting time for patients here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6116086494564814, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they are around!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right now they are not but when we call them, they come."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the waiting time for patients here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Waiting time for calling the doctor?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Waiting time before they see a health worker."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.012898499396091, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right now they are not but when we call them, they come."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the waiting time for patients here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Waiting time for calling the doctor?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Waiting time before they see a health worker."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are always here in the morning and afternoon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If someone came at 8am, what time would they leave, the outpatient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3476649993289898, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Waiting time for calling the doctor?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Waiting time before they see a health worker."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are always here in the morning and afternoon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If someone came at 8am, what time would they leave, the outpatient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Processing a patient can take a long time; it can take like 2-3hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the quality of care; how is it here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7196277770322106, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are always here in the morning and afternoon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If someone came at 8am, what time would they leave, the outpatient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Processing a patient can take a long time; it can take like 2-3hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the quality of care; how is it here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I cannot [chuckles] ... but we care for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you are to gauge yourself, where do you fall?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 4.132919752258012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Processing a patient can take a long time; it can take like 2-3hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the quality of care; how is it here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I cannot [chuckles] ... but we care for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you are to gauge yourself, where do you fall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] I do like care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Generally, the center, where would you put them? 40%? 50%?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2587997247311236, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I cannot [chuckles] ... but we care for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you are to gauge yourself, where do you fall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] I do like care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Generally, the center, where would you put them? 40%? 50%?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot say it is 100% or 80% because everybody has his or her ... but it could be 60%"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think has hindered the health center from moving from 60 to 100? What are those gaps that need to be filled?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3986663608123595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] I do like care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Generally, the center, where would you put them? 40%? 50%?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot say it is 100% or 80% because everybody has his or her ... but it could be 60%"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think has hindered the health center from moving from 60 to 100? What are those gaps that need to be filled?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First of all the staffing, maybe even the distance because we don’t have residential staff. Most of us come from far."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then if you look at the medication do you think you have medication for heart failure? Do you have heart failure drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.44296262312484397, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot say it is 100% or 80% because everybody has his or her ... but it could be 60%"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think has hindered the health center from moving from 60 to 100? What are those gaps that need to be filled?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First of all the staffing, maybe even the distance because we don’t have residential staff. Most of us come from far."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then if you look at the medication do you think you have medication for heart failure? Do you have heart failure drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have got this Aspirin and I remember giving it to those hypertensive patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have anti-coagulation drugs? Warfarin and the like?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.49218069236093775, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First of all the staffing, maybe even the distance because we don’t have residential staff. Most of us come from far."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then if you look at the medication do you think you have medication for heart failure? Do you have heart failure drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have got this Aspirin and I remember giving it to those hypertensive patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have anti-coagulation drugs? Warfarin and the like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have! By the way, health centers are meant to handle RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5468674359565975, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have got this Aspirin and I remember giving it to those hypertensive patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have anti-coagulation drugs? Warfarin and the like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have! By the way, health centers are meant to handle RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we settle acute rheumatic fever and we also handle those coming in for follow up for infections maybe and those kind of things. Maybe they need to be given their injections."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What injections? Do you have Benzathine?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6076304843962194, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have! By the way, health centers are meant to handle RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we settle acute rheumatic fever and we also handle those coming in for follow up for infections maybe and those kind of things. Maybe they need to be given their injections."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What injections? Do you have Benzathine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Benzathine we have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you get patients who need it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6751449826624659, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we settle acute rheumatic fever and we also handle those coming in for follow up for infections maybe and those kind of things. Maybe they need to be given their injections."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What injections? Do you have Benzathine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Benzathine we have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you get patients who need it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get patients with ARF."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7501610918471844, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Benzathine we have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you get patients who need it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get patients with ARF."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the diagnostics here; do you think they are working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8335123242746493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get patients with ARF."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the diagnostics here; do you think they are working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one maybe you can ask the laboratory people; they are the ones who know about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you have echocardiography here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9261248047496102, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the diagnostics here; do you think they are working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one maybe you can ask the laboratory people; they are the ones who know about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you have echocardiography here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it is not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at your medical records system, how is it here? How do you keep your records here? Are you satisfied with the way they are kept, the way you access them, the way information flows from in-patient and out- patient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0290275608329003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one maybe you can ask the laboratory people; they are the ones who know about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you have echocardiography here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it is not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at your medical records system, how is it here? How do you keep your records here? Are you satisfied with the way they are kept, the way you access them, the way information flows from in-patient and out- patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not well handled because we do not have a medical records ... eh, by the way it is there but the way it is handled is not good. It is not one that they can use. Sometimes you can look for records when they are lost."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then do you have registers for ARF that you keep here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1433639564810003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it is not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at your medical records system, how is it here? How do you keep your records here? Are you satisfied with the way they are kept, the way you access them, the way information flows from in-patient and out- patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not well handled because we do not have a medical records ... eh, by the way it is there but the way it is handled is not good. It is not one that they can use. Sometimes you can look for records when they are lost."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then do you have registers for ARF that you keep here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you don’t have those for RHD!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2704043960900002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not well handled because we do not have a medical records ... eh, by the way it is there but the way it is handled is not good. It is not one that they can use. Sometimes you can look for records when they are lost."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then do you have registers for ARF that you keep here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you don’t have those for RHD!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you have protocol and guidelines for RHD care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4115604401000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you don’t have those for RHD!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you have protocol and guidelines for RHD care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have got these medical guidelines."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you know the referral path for RHD patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.568400489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you have protocol and guidelines for RHD care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have got these medical guidelines."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you know the referral path for RHD patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which factor is working for you here? What are you happy with that you say this has enabled me to work?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.74266721, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have got these medical guidelines."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you know the referral path for RHD patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which factor is working for you here? What are you happy with that you say this has enabled me to work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Generally we work on everybody who comes here but ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What motivates you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9362969, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which factor is working for you here? What are you happy with that you say this has enabled me to work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Generally we work on everybody who comes here but ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What motivates you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To work? Of course I have to work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let’s look at the perceptions of patients’ outcomes; do you think the patients get the care they need here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.151441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Generally we work on everybody who comes here but ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What motivates you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To work? Of course I have to work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let’s look at the perceptions of patients’ outcomes; do you think the patients get the care they need here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is difficult; maybe you have to ask them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in your opinion"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To work? Of course I have to work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let’s look at the perceptions of patients’ outcomes; do you think the patients get the care they need here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is difficult; maybe you have to ask them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in your opinion"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe we are trying, we are trying. If a patient comes and he doesn’t get what she needs, he will go back home when he is not okay"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance what can the patient go back without?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.6561000000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is difficult; maybe you have to ask them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in your opinion"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe we are trying, we are trying. If a patient comes and he doesn’t get what she needs, he will go back home when he is not okay"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance what can the patient go back without?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "of course we have to tell the patient to go and buy the drug"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if a patient with RHD came to Buwambo will that patient be handled here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe we are trying, we are trying. If a patient comes and he doesn’t get what she needs, he will go back home when he is not okay"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance what can the patient go back without?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "of course we have to tell the patient to go and buy the drug"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if a patient with RHD came to Buwambo will that patient be handled here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We can handle first then we refer the patient. Maybe what I can add is that the medicine bought is little and when it is used up, we have to wait for some months. Like now we only have the Panadols"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you said you don’t know where the problem is?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "of course we have to tell the patient to go and buy the drug"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if a patient with RHD came to Buwambo will that patient be handled here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We can handle first then we refer the patient. Maybe what I can add is that the medicine bought is little and when it is used up, we have to wait for some months. Like now we only have the Panadols"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you said you don’t know where the problem is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. If you look at patients’ safety, do you think patients’ safety issues are respected here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We can handle first then we refer the patient. Maybe what I can add is that the medicine bought is little and when it is used up, we have to wait for some months. Like now we only have the Panadols"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you said you don’t know where the problem is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. If you look at patients’ safety, do you think patients’ safety issues are respected here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are respected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think so?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. If you look at patients’ safety, do you think patients’ safety issues are respected here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are respected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because a patient is a patient who comes and you have to handle that patient well, and confidentially."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they are handled in a confidential way?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are respected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because a patient is a patient who comes and you have to handle that patient well, and confidentially."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they are handled in a confidential way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, like we have some special clinics like the ART clinic, we have some departments like the youth departments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can we do to improve the quality of care in our patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because a patient is a patient who comes and you have to handle that patient well, and confidentially."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they are handled in a confidential way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, like we have some special clinics like the ART clinic, we have some departments like the youth departments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can we do to improve the quality of care in our patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some improvement in areas like motivation and having CMEs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have the CMEs are not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some improvement in areas like motivation and having CMEs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have the CMEs are not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We no longer have CMEs; we used to have them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was the attendance?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We no longer have CMEs; we used to have them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was the attendance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The attendance was bad because when you call the people, the turn up would be low."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you seen any preventable death in a place like here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was the attendance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The attendance was bad because when you call the people, the turn up would be low."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you seen any preventable death in a place like here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What could cause that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The attendance was bad because when you call the people, the turn up would be low."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you seen any preventable death in a place like here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What could cause that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the patient may take long to get the treatment when the drug are not here and yet what he is suffering from can be treated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, any other?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What could cause that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the patient may take long to get the treatment when the drug are not here and yet what he is suffering from can be treated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your opinion what are the two most important things Ministry of Health can do to improve the outcomes in our patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the patient may take long to get the treatment when the drug are not here and yet what he is suffering from can be treated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your opinion what are the two most important things Ministry of Health can do to improve the outcomes in our patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just to improve on the supervision and supply of drugs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you get supervisions from like the district?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your opinion what are the two most important things Ministry of Health can do to improve the outcomes in our patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just to improve on the supervision and supply of drugs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you get supervisions from like the district?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we get but maybe because of our rural places, they take long to come."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when they supervise are your needs or issues raised?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just to improve on the supervision and supply of drugs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you get supervisions from like the district?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we get but maybe because of our rural places, they take long to come."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when they supervise are your needs or issues raised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We raise them but they end there; they don’t work on them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so drugs and supervision!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We raise them but they end there; they don’t work on them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so drugs and supervision!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then at least you have seen the RHD patients, what can we do for them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then at least you have seen the RHD patients, what can we do for them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So far we have not had any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But in general because at least you have seen them somewhere, what can be done to make sure they can come for care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then at least you have seen the RHD patients, what can we do for them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So far we have not had any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But in general because at least you have seen them somewhere, what can be done to make sure they can come for care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To get them their drugs so that they can take them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we help them to come for their drugs? What can we do to motivate them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So far we have not had any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But in general because at least you have seen them somewhere, what can be done to make sure they can come for care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To get them their drugs so that they can take them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we help them to come for their drugs? What can we do to motivate them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Outreaches and advising them to take their drugs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who should advise them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To get them their drugs so that they can take them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we help them to come for their drugs? What can we do to motivate them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Outreaches and advising them to take their drugs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who should advise them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Any health worker"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything just before we close?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Outreaches and advising them to take their drugs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who should advise them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Any health worker"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything just before we close?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now I thank you for coming, and after this, are you going to come and maybe give some assistance in that area of RHD?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why we do this is we want to see the gaps because we can’t fill them when we don’t know where they are. That’s why we come to health centers to get the different views to know what they don’t know which is going to help us."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00032:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Any health worker"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything just before we close?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now I thank you for coming, and after this, are you going to come and maybe give some assistance in that area of RHD?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why we do this is we want to see the gaps because we can’t fill them when we don’t know where they are. That’s why we come to health centers to get the different views to know what they don’t know which is going to help us."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we always have some supervision from the district, the municipality but these people are failing to come through our in-charge and I don’t know why."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After these results are out, this will be the foundation to see which areas and which centers need to be boasted with learning. Thank you very much. Anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.640071098740834, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "30 years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are 30 years! And by the way which office are we seated in right now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "OPD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes OPD, but this specific room?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is a consultant room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So we are in the consultant room number 5! Okay, that's good, so you're 30 years old?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.155634554156482, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OPD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes OPD, but this specific room?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is a consultant room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So we are in the consultant room number 5! Okay, that's good, so you're 30 years old?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, tell me about your qualifications, about your training, where you trained from and whether nursing school or medical school."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.5062606157294236, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is a consultant room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So we are in the consultant room number 5! Okay, that's good, so you're 30 years old?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, tell me about your qualifications, about your training, where you trained from and whether nursing school or medical school."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am an enrolled nurse. I studied in Nsambya, St Raphael of St Francis Hospital."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, when did you qualify?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.7847340174771373, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, tell me about your qualifications, about your training, where you trained from and whether nursing school or medical school."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am an enrolled nurse. I studied in Nsambya, St Raphael of St Francis Hospital."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, when did you qualify?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I qualified in 2007"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how long have you been qualified?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.203375330218688, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I qualified in 2007"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how long have you been qualified?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's like 10 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From 2007?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long have you been working at Entebbe Regional Hospital, or Entebbe General Hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3370837002429865, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's like 10 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From 2007?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long have you been working at Entebbe Regional Hospital, or Entebbe General Hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since 2013."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's how many years now?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.37453744471442957, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long have you been working at Entebbe Regional Hospital, or Entebbe General Hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since 2013."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's how many years now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are five years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have been working here for five years, you qualified in 2007 and you are an enrolled nurse."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4161527163493662, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since 2013."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's how many years now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are five years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have been working here for five years, you qualified in 2007 and you are an enrolled nurse."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Tell me about the demographics of the patients in your practice or the common illnesses that are usually treated here."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4623919070548513, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are five years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have been working here for five years, you qualified in 2007 and you are an enrolled nurse."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Tell me about the demographics of the patients in your practice or the common illnesses that are usually treated here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cough, flu, malaria, hypertension, diabetes and TB."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the main elements that you usually see!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5137687856165014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Tell me about the demographics of the patients in your practice or the common illnesses that are usually treated here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cough, flu, malaria, hypertension, diabetes and TB."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the main elements that you usually see!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me about their age groups."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.570854206240557, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cough, flu, malaria, hypertension, diabetes and TB."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the main elements that you usually see!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me about their age groups."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For malaria?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For all of them. Which one do you mainly see? Are they young? They are for which age group?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6342824513783967, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me about their age groups."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For malaria?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For all of them. Which one do you mainly see? Are they young? They are for which age group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get all ages because this is OPD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, for example malaria, do you always see the young ones? Do you usually see the teenagers or elder groups?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7047582793093297, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For malaria?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For all of them. Which one do you mainly see? Are they young? They are for which age group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get all ages because this is OPD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, for example malaria, do you always see the young ones? Do you usually see the teenagers or elder groups?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Malaria; mainly the young ones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about their conditions!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8700719497646046, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Malaria; mainly the young ones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about their conditions!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The conditions like cough and flu, I mean the young ones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even sometimes we get these incomplete abortions, but cough and flu are the most common, and typhoid by the way. I had forgotten typhoid."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. So tell me about your training on Rheumatic Heart Disease; have you received any specific training during school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9667466108495606, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The conditions like cough and flu, I mean the young ones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even sometimes we get these incomplete abortions, but cough and flu are the most common, and typhoid by the way. I had forgotten typhoid."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. So tell me about your training on Rheumatic Heart Disease; have you received any specific training during school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did they tell you Rheumatic Heart Disease was?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0741629009439562, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even sometimes we get these incomplete abortions, but cough and flu are the most common, and typhoid by the way. I had forgotten typhoid."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. So tell me about your training on Rheumatic Heart Disease; have you received any specific training during school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did they tell you Rheumatic Heart Disease was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Huh! Rheumatic Disease; this is the disease that occurs ... I don't remember very well but it's the disease that occurs when someone has over stayed with ... Okay, someone who usually gets cough, flu and such; that's what I remember. [Laughs]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, have you received any training since you graduated about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.1935143343821735, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did they tell you Rheumatic Heart Disease was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Huh! Rheumatic Disease; this is the disease that occurs ... I don't remember very well but it's the disease that occurs when someone has over stayed with ... Okay, someone who usually gets cough, flu and such; that's what I remember. [Laughs]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, have you received any training since you graduated about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not! Okay, so don't you do CMEs around here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.215015927091304, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Huh! Rheumatic Disease; this is the disease that occurs ... I don't remember very well but it's the disease that occurs when someone has over stayed with ... Okay, someone who usually gets cough, flu and such; that's what I remember. [Laughs]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, have you received any training since you graduated about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not! Okay, so don't you do CMEs around here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do, but they’re always on Tuesdays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So among the so CMEs; do you have any about RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.23890658565700443, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not! Okay, so don't you do CMEs around here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do, but they’re always on Tuesdays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So among the so CMEs; do you have any about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cause of RHD?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes about Rheumatic Heart Disease!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.265451761841116, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do, but they’re always on Tuesdays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So among the so CMEs; do you have any about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cause of RHD?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes about Rheumatic Heart Disease!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So how many patients of Rheumatic Heart Disease do you often see like in a day, week or month?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.29494640204568445, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cause of RHD?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes about Rheumatic Heart Disease!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So how many patients of Rheumatic Heart Disease do you often see like in a day, week or month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What can I say! We rarely get that condition being that someone is diagnosed with Rheumatic fever. Huh, to me it's a rare disease. I think it's because of poor diagnosis, I don't know, but since my training I haven't seen anyone and they have never told me anything like that person has Rheumatic Heart Disease, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, um, these patients, so you have not seen any?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.32771822449520494, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So how many patients of Rheumatic Heart Disease do you often see like in a day, week or month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What can I say! We rarely get that condition being that someone is diagnosed with Rheumatic fever. Huh, to me it's a rare disease. I think it's because of poor diagnosis, I don't know, but since my training I haven't seen anyone and they have never told me anything like that person has Rheumatic Heart Disease, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, um, these patients, so you have not seen any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not even in this out-patient department?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3641313605502277, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What can I say! We rarely get that condition being that someone is diagnosed with Rheumatic fever. Huh, to me it's a rare disease. I think it's because of poor diagnosis, I don't know, but since my training I haven't seen anyone and they have never told me anything like that person has Rheumatic Heart Disease, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, um, these patients, so you have not seen any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not even in this out-patient department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen any. For sure maybe it’s because of poor diagnosis, but I haven't seen someone that it is written that the diagnosis is Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now tell me about your understanding about the causes of Rheumatic Heart Disease; how do you understand Rheumatic Heart Disease and what are its causes? How do you understand it as a healthy worker?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4045904006113641, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not even in this out-patient department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen any. For sure maybe it’s because of poor diagnosis, but I haven't seen someone that it is written that the diagnosis is Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now tell me about your understanding about the causes of Rheumatic Heart Disease; how do you understand Rheumatic Heart Disease and what are its causes? How do you understand it as a healthy worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Huh! I think, it's an inflammation, it's a complication that comes in when someone has over stayed with cough, flu and sore throat. What I can say is that it moves; when the cough, flu and sore throat over ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When they over?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.44954488956818234, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen any. For sure maybe it’s because of poor diagnosis, but I haven't seen someone that it is written that the diagnosis is Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now tell me about your understanding about the causes of Rheumatic Heart Disease; how do you understand Rheumatic Heart Disease and what are its causes? How do you understand it as a healthy worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Huh! I think, it's an inflammation, it's a complication that comes in when someone has over stayed with cough, flu and sore throat. What I can say is that it moves; when the cough, flu and sore throat over ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When they over?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay let's simplify it; if someone gets cough and flu for so long and keeps on getting those diseases, has signs and symptoms of those diseases it ... [stammers]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Explain it in a simpler way even in Luganda."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4994943217424248, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Huh! I think, it's an inflammation, it's a complication that comes in when someone has over stayed with cough, flu and sore throat. What I can say is that it moves; when the cough, flu and sore throat over ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When they over?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay let's simplify it; if someone gets cough and flu for so long and keeps on getting those diseases, has signs and symptoms of those diseases it ... [stammers]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Explain it in a simpler way even in Luganda."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the outcome, not even the outcome but it generates to the heart, I mean the inflammation, and then you find when someone has ended up getting Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what do you think is the cause? What do you think causes?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6166596564721294, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the outcome, not even the outcome but it generates to the heart, I mean the inflammation, and then you find when someone has ended up getting Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what do you think is the cause? What do you think causes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cause of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bacterial infections."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of bacterial infections?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6851773960801437, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cause of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bacterial infections."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of bacterial infections?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am not sure of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you. So are you aware of a link between a sore throat and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8458980198520293, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am not sure of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you. So are you aware of a link between a sore throat and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, sore throat and Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Explaining it is not easy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, you speak in a lay man's language. You said you are aware of the link, isn't it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.939886688724477, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, sore throat and Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Explaining it is not easy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, you speak in a lay man's language. You said you are aware of the link, isn't it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you understand that link between sore throat and Rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0443185430271966, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Explaining it is not easy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, you speak in a lay man's language. You said you are aware of the link, isn't it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you understand that link between sore throat and Rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The pharynges ... [stammers] I just have an idea but am trying to connect. I have failed to connect very well but what I know is there is a link."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you are aware there is a link!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1603539366968851, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you understand that link between sore throat and Rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The pharynges ... [stammers] I just have an idea but am trying to connect. I have failed to connect very well but what I know is there is a link."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you are aware there is a link!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what were you told can be done to prevent Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.2892821518854278, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The pharynges ... [stammers] I just have an idea but am trying to connect. I have failed to connect very well but what I know is there is a link."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you are aware there is a link!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what were you told can be done to prevent Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The quick diagnosis of it; treatment for these Common diseases like flu and cough. When they are easily treated, okay, when they are treated early I think that Rheumatic Heart Disease can be prevented."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Earlier on we were talking about prevention, what were you taught can be done to treat Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.321424613206031, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what were you told can be done to prevent Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The quick diagnosis of it; treatment for these Common diseases like flu and cough. When they are easily treated, okay, when they are treated early I think that Rheumatic Heart Disease can be prevented."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Earlier on we were talking about prevention, what were you taught can be done to treat Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember they told us that Penicillins are the best treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. Are there any aspects of Rheumatic Heart Disease management in which you think you need more training?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3571384591178122, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The quick diagnosis of it; treatment for these Common diseases like flu and cough. When they are easily treated, okay, when they are treated early I think that Rheumatic Heart Disease can be prevented."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Earlier on we were talking about prevention, what were you taught can be done to treat Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember they told us that Penicillins are the best treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. Are there any aspects of Rheumatic Heart Disease management in which you think you need more training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually we need training on it because, for sure, for me since I trained ... that's why I have forgotten everything. We need everything to be trained; the causes, the treatment and how to diagnose it very fast,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so which means that you need training!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.39682051013090247, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember they told us that Penicillins are the best treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. Are there any aspects of Rheumatic Heart Disease management in which you think you need more training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually we need training on it because, for sure, for me since I trained ... that's why I have forgotten everything. We need everything to be trained; the causes, the treatment and how to diagnose it very fast,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so which means that you need training!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we need to know more about it for at least easy diagnosis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which means that you need to know more about this, anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4899018643591388, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we need to know more about it for at least easy diagnosis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which means that you need to know more about this, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The causes, prevention and treatment if it has occurred"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "um, even the whole management and nursing care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your understanding about the long term prognosis of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5443354048434875, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The causes, prevention and treatment if it has occurred"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "um, even the whole management and nursing care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your understanding about the long term prognosis of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your understanding about the long term prognosis of a patient with Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6720190183252932, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your understanding about the long term prognosis of a patient with Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It can lead to the heart failure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It also leads to difficulty in breathing because of the pain of the heart."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So according to you, is the long term prognosis of Rheumatic Heart Disease a good or bad one? How do you understand it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7466877981392146, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It can lead to the heart failure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It also leads to difficulty in breathing because of the pain of the heart."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So according to you, is the long term prognosis of Rheumatic Heart Disease a good or bad one? How do you understand it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Long term what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, long term prognosis."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8296531090435718, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It also leads to difficulty in breathing because of the pain of the heart."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So according to you, is the long term prognosis of Rheumatic Heart Disease a good or bad one? How do you understand it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Long term what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, long term prognosis."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it bad?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9218367878261908, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Long term what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, long term prognosis."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Long term prognosis, it can be misdiagnosed on someone, leading to poor treatment or adherence to the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are saying that according to you the long term prognosis of RHD is bad!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0242630975846565, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Long term prognosis, it can be misdiagnosed on someone, leading to poor treatment or adherence to the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are saying that according to you the long term prognosis of RHD is bad!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you're saying that some patients don't adhere to treatment!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.138070108427396, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Long term prognosis, it can be misdiagnosed on someone, leading to poor treatment or adherence to the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are saying that according to you the long term prognosis of RHD is bad!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you're saying that some patients don't adhere to treatment!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you also talked about diagnosis, is there anything else that you talked about?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2645223426971068, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you're saying that some patients don't adhere to treatment!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you also talked about diagnosis, is there anything else that you talked about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me about your encounters with patients with Rheumatic heart disease. Do you recall the last patient you saw with Rheumatic Heart Disease and can you briefly summarize that visit?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4050248252190076, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you also talked about diagnosis, is there anything else that you talked about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me about your encounters with patients with Rheumatic heart disease. Do you recall the last patient you saw with Rheumatic Heart Disease and can you briefly summarize that visit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Apart from studying it, I haven't seen any patient with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from studying Rheumatic Heart Disease you have not seen a patient with it!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5611386946877863, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me about your encounters with patients with Rheumatic heart disease. Do you recall the last patient you saw with Rheumatic Heart Disease and can you briefly summarize that visit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Apart from studying it, I haven't seen any patient with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from studying Rheumatic Heart Disease you have not seen a patient with it!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even here in the outpatient department?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7345985496530958, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Apart from studying it, I haven't seen any patient with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from studying Rheumatic Heart Disease you have not seen a patient with it!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even here in the outpatient department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! So what is the average age? You said you have not seen any patients the five years you have been here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9273317218367731, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even here in the outpatient department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! So what is the average age? You said you have not seen any patients the five years you have been here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen, and that's why I was saying whether it could be due to poor diagnosis. Someone can be having it and they diagnosed another thing yet it’s Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you think is the average age of Rheumatic Heart Disease patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.379421878810831, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen, and that's why I was saying whether it could be due to poor diagnosis. Someone can be having it and they diagnosed another thing yet it’s Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you think is the average age of Rheumatic Heart Disease patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The average?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "45."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "45years. Okay, are they usually working or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.64380208756759, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The average?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "45."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "45years. Okay, are they usually working or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Working?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those patients; are they usually working or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9375578750751, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "45."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "45years. Okay, are they usually working or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Working?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those patients; are they usually working or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Working"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think those patients are generally aware of the link between sore throat, Acute Rheumatic Fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.029571845096159, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not aware. The patients themselves?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For one to know that I am suffering from this, or that it’s a complication of cough and what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not aware."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what sort of symptoms do they describe? Those patients of Rheumatic Heart Disease."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.477302050106843, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For one to know that I am suffering from this, or that it’s a complication of cough and what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not aware."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what sort of symptoms do they describe? Those patients of Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Apart from ... well according to what I studied, they present with fever, cough, flu, sore throat and a bit of difficulty in breathing and chest pain,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said you studied but you haven't seen any!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.97478005567427, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not aware."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what sort of symptoms do they describe? Those patients of Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Apart from ... well according to what I studied, they present with fever, cough, flu, sore throat and a bit of difficulty in breathing and chest pain,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said you studied but you haven't seen any!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen, that's the little I remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About the follow-up and the adherence to treatment, you don't know because you have not seen any of them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.5275333951936325, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Apart from ... well according to what I studied, they present with fever, cough, flu, sore throat and a bit of difficulty in breathing and chest pain,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said you studied but you haven't seen any!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen, that's the little I remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About the follow-up and the adherence to treatment, you don't know because you have not seen any of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. From the school I haven't got that chance at least."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because my next question was; what sort of barriers they usually state in getting the care they need? But you have told me you have not seen any!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.141703772437369, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen, that's the little I remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About the follow-up and the adherence to treatment, you don't know because you have not seen any of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. From the school I haven't got that chance at least."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because my next question was; what sort of barriers they usually state in getting the care they need? But you have told me you have not seen any!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So now you as healthy worker, what sort of barriers do you perceive these patients face in getting care they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.713004191597077, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. From the school I haven't got that chance at least."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because my next question was; what sort of barriers they usually state in getting the care they need? But you have told me you have not seen any!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So now you as healthy worker, what sort of barriers do you perceive these patients face in getting care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Barriers; poverty because you can find that the treatment may be ... I am just talking because I haven't seen one, but you find someone has told you they will be getting such a treatment for such a time and that patient has to pay that money, so you end up staying, or she can get for like three days and then he drops out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.347782435107863, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So now you as healthy worker, what sort of barriers do you perceive these patients face in getting care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Barriers; poverty because you can find that the treatment may be ... I am just talking because I haven't seen one, but you find someone has told you they will be getting such a treatment for such a time and that patient has to pay that money, so you end up staying, or she can get for like three days and then he drops out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Barriers?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What sort of barriers do you perceive these patients get in getting the care they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.053091594564292, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Barriers; poverty because you can find that the treatment may be ... I am just talking because I haven't seen one, but you find someone has told you they will be getting such a treatment for such a time and that patient has to pay that money, so you end up staying, or she can get for like three days and then he drops out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Barriers?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What sort of barriers do you perceive these patients get in getting the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These patients, they know that I have Rheumatic Heart Disease but the barriers they face."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What barriers do they face?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.614546216182547, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Barriers?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What sort of barriers do you perceive these patients get in getting the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These patients, they know that I have Rheumatic Heart Disease but the barriers they face."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What barriers do they face?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "um, I think some patients, the ones I have seen that get medicine, some of them they don't want to take medicine, like men. For the men, they take just one day and you find that there are poorly adhering to their treatment. So it's according to them that treatment is not an issue; when someone gets some small improvement he just drops out from the treatment without a big reason. And some Penicillins are QID; you can find someone, the timing, you find someone has got treatment and needs to get treatment at night but if that person is not in the hospital, he can fail to get themselves to the hospital to get that night treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that becomes a barrier in a way that patients take the treatment, you said QID!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 6.238384684647275, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These patients, they know that I have Rheumatic Heart Disease but the barriers they face."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What barriers do they face?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "um, I think some patients, the ones I have seen that get medicine, some of them they don't want to take medicine, like men. For the men, they take just one day and you find that there are poorly adhering to their treatment. So it's according to them that treatment is not an issue; when someone gets some small improvement he just drops out from the treatment without a big reason. And some Penicillins are QID; you can find someone, the timing, you find someone has got treatment and needs to get treatment at night but if that person is not in the hospital, he can fail to get themselves to the hospital to get that night treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that becomes a barrier in a way that patients take the treatment, you said QID!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's 4 times a day"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that you mean that ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5982052051636386, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "um, I think some patients, the ones I have seen that get medicine, some of them they don't want to take medicine, like men. For the men, they take just one day and you find that there are poorly adhering to their treatment. So it's according to them that treatment is not an issue; when someone gets some small improvement he just drops out from the treatment without a big reason. And some Penicillins are QID; you can find someone, the timing, you find someone has got treatment and needs to get treatment at night but if that person is not in the hospital, he can fail to get themselves to the hospital to get that night treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that becomes a barrier in a way that patients take the treatment, you said QID!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's 4 times a day"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that you mean that ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It can mean many times, because most of the Penicillins are eight hourly, I mean six hourly. So that patient can fail to fulfil the time even if the treatment is there because of the long time. If it was already once a day, that one would be okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you very much. So we are going to talk about the local health system barriers; tell me about administration and leadership in Wakiso district. What barriers do you usually face as a health worker in regard to administration and leadership, or in providing care to the patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.998005783515154, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's 4 times a day"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that you mean that ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It can mean many times, because most of the Penicillins are eight hourly, I mean six hourly. So that patient can fail to fulfil the time even if the treatment is there because of the long time. If it was already once a day, that one would be okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you very much. So we are going to talk about the local health system barriers; tell me about administration and leadership in Wakiso district. What barriers do you usually face as a health worker in regard to administration and leadership, or in providing care to the patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] overwork; okay, overloaded"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Overloaded with what?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.220006426127949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It can mean many times, because most of the Penicillins are eight hourly, I mean six hourly. So that patient can fail to fulfil the time even if the treatment is there because of the long time. If it was already once a day, that one would be okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you very much. So we are going to talk about the local health system barriers; tell me about administration and leadership in Wakiso district. What barriers do you usually face as a health worker in regard to administration and leadership, or in providing care to the patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] overwork; okay, overloaded"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Overloaded with what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now here in the OPD, we are very few. You have seen the number of patients we are having, but we are few! We are like, let me count; we are like five! Yes, managing day and evening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that means that ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4666738068088323, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] overwork; okay, overloaded"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Overloaded with what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now here in the OPD, we are very few. You have seen the number of patients we are having, but we are few! We are like, let me count; we are like five! Yes, managing day and evening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that means that ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We also get tired and we end up not giving what we are supposed to give to the patient. Then another thing, yes there are CME's but there are courses which are rare; instead of taking a nurse to study that, let me say diabetes or Rheumatic Heart Disease, we who are on ground I think we are supposed to be trained to know what we supposed to do. But you can find someone they have taken to study about Rheumatic Heart Disease works in theatre or in administration, someone who is not related at least to patients! That's the person who goes to such courses yet they leave people who are supposed to go for that. Because, to me, if I was a leader I can say, “these people working on a ward are supposed to study diabetes, this and this have to go,” instead of calling someone from a different department, because to me it's not good. That's why people say [in agitation], “Argh!” They take it easy, but even if someone comes and says that they are going to teach about, let's say malaria, I may hear someone from records going to teach malaria! You just say to yourself, “Uh, after all I studied malaria from training school, ” so you leave them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which means that's an administrative barrier for you to provide best health care!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.740748674232036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now here in the OPD, we are very few. You have seen the number of patients we are having, but we are few! We are like, let me count; we are like five! Yes, managing day and evening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that means that ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We also get tired and we end up not giving what we are supposed to give to the patient. Then another thing, yes there are CME's but there are courses which are rare; instead of taking a nurse to study that, let me say diabetes or Rheumatic Heart Disease, we who are on ground I think we are supposed to be trained to know what we supposed to do. But you can find someone they have taken to study about Rheumatic Heart Disease works in theatre or in administration, someone who is not related at least to patients! That's the person who goes to such courses yet they leave people who are supposed to go for that. Because, to me, if I was a leader I can say, “these people working on a ward are supposed to study diabetes, this and this have to go,” instead of calling someone from a different department, because to me it's not good. That's why people say [in agitation], “Argh!” They take it easy, but even if someone comes and says that they are going to teach about, let's say malaria, I may hear someone from records going to teach malaria! You just say to yourself, “Uh, after all I studied malaria from training school, ” so you leave them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which means that's an administrative barrier for you to provide best health care!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because you never know that person would have given you the new guidelines on such a disease, but being like, now this is someone who works in records; how can he teach me about malaria? You just leave it at that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you leave it at that!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.383640338558069, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because you never know that person would have given you the new guidelines on such a disease, but being like, now this is someone who works in records; how can he teach me about malaria? You just leave it at that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you leave it at that!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, then another thing they increased money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Money for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For nurses. Okay, for medical workers. They added some money but on ground people are saying, “Why is it that the registered (ones) were given good money and they left the enrolled (ones)?” They just added 100,000/= on the money we (enrolled ones) were getting, so that thing also when it comes to someone who doesn't have that heart of patients, they can just say, “Argh, those ones received money!” For us we are here overworked but now how many white people have you seen in this OPD?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from this one!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7596003761756323, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, then another thing they increased money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Money for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For nurses. Okay, for medical workers. They added some money but on ground people are saying, “Why is it that the registered (ones) were given good money and they left the enrolled (ones)?” They just added 100,000/= on the money we (enrolled ones) were getting, so that thing also when it comes to someone who doesn't have that heart of patients, they can just say, “Argh, those ones received money!” For us we are here overworked but now how many white people have you seen in this OPD?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from this one!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, so with those people, if you don't have heart, they end up saying, “I am going to do the little I can” without putting much effort."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So tell me about the funding for health care in general and about Rheumatic Heart Disease if you are aware of any. Do you have funding in the hospital here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.177333751306258, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For nurses. Okay, for medical workers. They added some money but on ground people are saying, “Why is it that the registered (ones) were given good money and they left the enrolled (ones)?” They just added 100,000/= on the money we (enrolled ones) were getting, so that thing also when it comes to someone who doesn't have that heart of patients, they can just say, “Argh, those ones received money!” For us we are here overworked but now how many white people have you seen in this OPD?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from this one!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, so with those people, if you don't have heart, they end up saying, “I am going to do the little I can” without putting much effort."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So tell me about the funding for health care in general and about Rheumatic Heart Disease if you are aware of any. Do you have funding in the hospital here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The funding?!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like the funds that come from the district and government. Funding for health care in general and Rheumatic Heart Disease."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.641481945895842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, so with those people, if you don't have heart, they end up saying, “I am going to do the little I can” without putting much effort."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So tell me about the funding for health care in general and about Rheumatic Heart Disease if you are aware of any. Do you have funding in the hospital here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The funding?!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like the funds that come from the district and government. Funding for health care in general and Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course the funding for Rheumatic Heart Disease, I haven't heard anything. For other things, they fund."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Other things like what?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.046091050995381, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The funding?!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like the funds that come from the district and government. Funding for health care in general and Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course the funding for Rheumatic Heart Disease, I haven't heard anything. For other things, they fund."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Other things like what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I heard of malaria but I don't remember the organization that funded, but there are some funds that came for malaria. Then there is a fund from MildMay; they fund HIV testing and counseling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.384545612217089, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course the funding for Rheumatic Heart Disease, I haven't heard anything. For other things, they fund."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Other things like what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I heard of malaria but I don't remember the organization that funded, but there are some funds that came for malaria. Then there is a fund from MildMay; they fund HIV testing and counseling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet, this is my first time. I don't know, maybe it might be there in administration but to me, I haven't heard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me about the health care workers and their numbers; do you have enough? Tell me about their qualifications."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.760606235796766, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I heard of malaria but I don't remember the organization that funded, but there are some funds that came for malaria. Then there is a fund from MildMay; they fund HIV testing and counseling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet, this is my first time. I don't know, maybe it might be there in administration but to me, I haven't heard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me about the health care workers and their numbers; do you have enough? Tell me about their qualifications."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the health workers, mostly like half of them have gone back to school but they haven't upgraded them. By the way it's a barrier also; they went back to school many of them but they were not upgraded."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what you’re trying to say is that some of the health workers were at a different level?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.178451373107517, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet, this is my first time. I don't know, maybe it might be there in administration but to me, I haven't heard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me about the health care workers and their numbers; do you have enough? Tell me about their qualifications."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the health workers, mostly like half of them have gone back to school but they haven't upgraded them. By the way it's a barrier also; they went back to school many of them but they were not upgraded."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what you’re trying to say is that some of the health workers were at a different level?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are at different levels."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are saying that they went back for training."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.924014040873479, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are at different levels."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are saying that they went back for training."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like the Enrolled Nurses are now registered but at the District, they are Enrolled Nurses, yet they are registered. Even our in-charge here is an enrolled nurse though she is in white (dress code)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow. So tell me about the waiting times and quality of care they give to the patients; how long do the patients wait to be seen by health workers?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.13779337874831, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like the Enrolled Nurses are now registered but at the District, they are Enrolled Nurses, yet they are registered. Even our in-charge here is an enrolled nurse though she is in white (dress code)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow. So tell me about the waiting times and quality of care they give to the patients; how long do the patients wait to be seen by health workers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, that one depends on the condition of the patient; some patients have to go to the laboratory, so it takes long to reach where they get medication. But the health workers are always there, but as you know that patients are many, so they take long, and some tests required take long. So someone can tell you, “since morning, I have been here,” or “me I came at 2pm but you see the time!” That one just needs an explanation like, “you know you had such a problem, you had to wait for the lab and that's why you reached this time. ” Otherwise the staffs are always around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the quality of care that the health workers give."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.15310375416478889, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow. So tell me about the waiting times and quality of care they give to the patients; how long do the patients wait to be seen by health workers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, that one depends on the condition of the patient; some patients have to go to the laboratory, so it takes long to reach where they get medication. But the health workers are always there, but as you know that patients are many, so they take long, and some tests required take long. So someone can tell you, “since morning, I have been here,” or “me I came at 2pm but you see the time!” That one just needs an explanation like, “you know you had such a problem, you had to wait for the lab and that's why you reached this time. ” Otherwise the staffs are always around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the quality of care that the health workers give."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are educated, that's why we always have nursing schools that bring their students for more education and that is Nkumba and Mildmay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nkumba has a school of nursing?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.17011528240532098, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, that one depends on the condition of the patient; some patients have to go to the laboratory, so it takes long to reach where they get medication. But the health workers are always there, but as you know that patients are many, so they take long, and some tests required take long. So someone can tell you, “since morning, I have been here,” or “me I came at 2pm but you see the time!” That one just needs an explanation like, “you know you had such a problem, you had to wait for the lab and that's why you reached this time. ” Otherwise the staffs are always around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the quality of care that the health workers give."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are educated, that's why we always have nursing schools that bring their students for more education and that is Nkumba and Mildmay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nkumba has a school of nursing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. So tell me about the medications, about Benzathine Penicillin; do you have these drugs on sight?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.21001886716706294, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. So tell me about the medications, about Benzathine Penicillin; do you have these drugs on sight?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And anti-coagulants?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What are they?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are like the blood thinners, like Aspirin, warfarin Respondent; No.\n\nDoes the district provide them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.23335429685229217, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And anti-coagulants?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What are they?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are like the blood thinners, like Aspirin, warfarin Respondent; No.\n\nDoes the district provide them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Warfarin?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Warfarin and cardiac Aspirin."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2592825520581024, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What are they?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are like the blood thinners, like Aspirin, warfarin Respondent; No.\n\nDoes the district provide them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Warfarin?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Warfarin and cardiac Aspirin."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have cardiac Aspirin and Benzathine. But we don't have warfarin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the heart failure drugs; do you have them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28809172450900267, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Warfarin?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Warfarin and cardiac Aspirin."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have cardiac Aspirin and Benzathine. But we don't have warfarin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the heart failure drugs; do you have them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Heart failure drugs like?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like Digoxin and Lasix."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.32010191612111405, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have cardiac Aspirin and Benzathine. But we don't have warfarin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the heart failure drugs; do you have them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Heart failure drugs like?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like Digoxin and Lasix."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lasix, we have, but not digoxin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That one you don't have. So tell me about diagnostics; what diagnostics do you have here in the hospital?\n\nThe what?\n\nDiagnostics, for example Echocardiography."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3556687956901267, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Heart failure drugs like?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like Digoxin and Lasix."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lasix, we have, but not digoxin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That one you don't have. So tell me about diagnostics; what diagnostics do you have here in the hospital?\n\nThe what?\n\nDiagnostics, for example Echocardiography."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they have. We don't have ECHO, we have ECG"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have ECG! So who does the ECG?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.39518755076680745, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lasix, we have, but not digoxin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That one you don't have. So tell me about diagnostics; what diagnostics do you have here in the hospital?\n\nThe what?\n\nDiagnostics, for example Echocardiography."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they have. We don't have ECHO, we have ECG"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have ECG! So who does the ECG?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some people who trained for it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So when they do it, who reads the ECG?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43909727862978604, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they have. We don't have ECHO, we have ECG"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have ECG! So who does the ECG?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some people who trained for it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So when they do it, who reads the ECG?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The doctors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else? Any other diagnosis which you have here in the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4878858651442067, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some people who trained for it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So when they do it, who reads the ECG?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The doctors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else? Any other diagnosis which you have here in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scan and X-ray."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of scan?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5420954057157852, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The doctors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else? Any other diagnosis which you have here in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scan and X-ray."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of scan?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These abdominal scans, not CT scan and what."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A normal scan like ultra sound, abdominal scan?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6023282285730946, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scan and X-ray."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of scan?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These abdominal scans, not CT scan and what."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A normal scan like ultra sound, abdominal scan?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, abdominal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not like a brain CT!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7436150970038206, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, abdominal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not like a brain CT!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we don't have that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "X-ray, then laboratory."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So those are the ones you have. So you told me that you do ECGs but don't do Echos?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8262389966709117, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we don't have that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "X-ray, then laboratory."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So those are the ones you have. So you told me that you do ECGs but don't do Echos?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, ECGs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about your health information information and medical systems; how are they integrated between the facility’s departments; the in-patient and the out patient’s? Tell me about your health information systems here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9180433296343463, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "X-ray, then laboratory."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So those are the ones you have. So you told me that you do ECGs but don't do Echos?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, ECGs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about your health information information and medical systems; how are they integrated between the facility’s departments; the in-patient and the out patient’s? Tell me about your health information systems here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Health information?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, health information like when you receive patients and you see them, do you have registers for these patients."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0200481440381626, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, ECGs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about your health information information and medical systems; how are they integrated between the facility’s departments; the in-patient and the out patient’s? Tell me about your health information systems here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Health information?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, health information like when you receive patients and you see them, do you have registers for these patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course we have registers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of registers do you have?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1333868267090694, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Health information?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, health information like when you receive patients and you see them, do you have registers for these patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course we have registers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of registers do you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have a book, a logistics book. Then they introduced the computers now, they are trying so that system can come slowly. A clinician; where she sits, she types,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they register from?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2593186963434104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course we have registers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of registers do you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have a book, a logistics book. Then they introduced the computers now, they are trying so that system can come slowly. A clinician; where she sits, she types,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they register from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At Number one; when the one who registers puts in the computer, those names go to the computers of the doctor, so the doctor just reads what comes on the screen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is Number one? Not every hospital has number one."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3992429959371226, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have a book, a logistics book. Then they introduced the computers now, they are trying so that system can come slowly. A clinician; where she sits, she types,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they register from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At Number one; when the one who registers puts in the computer, those names go to the computers of the doctor, so the doctor just reads what comes on the screen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is Number one? Not every hospital has number one."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Laughs] the waiting area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where patients start from!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5547144399301362, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At Number one; when the one who registers puts in the computer, those names go to the computers of the doctor, so the doctor just reads what comes on the screen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is Number one? Not every hospital has number one."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Laughs] the waiting area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where patients start from!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where the patients start from, then go to triage where they are put in the computer and distributed to the doctors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So about the medical records system; do you have specific registers for specific conditions, for example registers for Rheumatic fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease patients, or registers for diabetes and hypertension? Do you have different registers?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.919400543123625, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where the patients start from, then go to triage where they are put in the computer and distributed to the doctors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So about the medical records system; do you have specific registers for specific conditions, for example registers for Rheumatic fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease patients, or registers for diabetes and hypertension? Do you have different registers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just have different departments of which they have their registers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like surgery, diabetes and hypertension; they have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you don't have specific registers for like Acute Rheumatic fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.132667270137361, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just have different departments of which they have their registers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like surgery, diabetes and hypertension; they have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you don't have specific registers for like Acute Rheumatic fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don't have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which means that if you’re talking about, diabetes, hypertension ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.369630300152623, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like surgery, diabetes and hypertension; they have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you don't have specific registers for like Acute Rheumatic fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don't have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which means that if you’re talking about, diabetes, hypertension ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those ones they have a specific one and are given specific days when they come to see their doctors for reviews."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So as a hospital or health worker, do you have any guidelines and protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease care, including the referral pathways here at the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.632922555725137, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don't have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which means that if you’re talking about, diabetes, hypertension ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those ones they have a specific one and are given specific days when they come to see their doctors for reviews."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So as a hospital or health worker, do you have any guidelines and protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease care, including the referral pathways here at the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the doctors have, but ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But if you work with the doctors, at least you would have seen the guidelines and protocols."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.925469506361263, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those ones they have a specific one and are given specific days when they come to see their doctors for reviews."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So as a hospital or health worker, do you have any guidelines and protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease care, including the referral pathways here at the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the doctors have, but ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But if you work with the doctors, at least you would have seen the guidelines and protocols."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For Rheumatic Heart Disease! I haven't seen one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You haven't seen them! Okay, so you are saying that you have not seen any guidelines or protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease care in this outpatient department?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2505216737347364, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the doctors have, but ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But if you work with the doctors, at least you would have seen the guidelines and protocols."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For Rheumatic Heart Disease! I haven't seen one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You haven't seen them! Okay, so you are saying that you have not seen any guidelines or protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease care in this outpatient department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what about the referral pathways! If you received those kind of patients, how would you handle them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6116907485941514, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For Rheumatic Heart Disease! I haven't seen one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You haven't seen them! Okay, so you are saying that you have not seen any guidelines or protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease care in this outpatient department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what about the referral pathways! If you received those kind of patients, how would you handle them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen anyone because maybe there are procedures, but I haven't seen anyone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which means you cannot know the referral pathways if you have not seen anyone!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.012989720660168, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what about the referral pathways! If you received those kind of patients, how would you handle them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't seen anyone because maybe there are procedures, but I haven't seen anyone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which means you cannot know the referral pathways if you have not seen anyone!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. What makes you leave home and come to work? What are some of the enablers in administration and the leadership that enables you to come and work? What motivates you to come and work?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7320860748890956, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. What makes you leave home and come to work? What are some of the enablers in administration and the leadership that enables you to come and work? What motivates you to come and work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What motivates me!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They pay me on time, because last month I received money on 22nd , so am on a sure deal that they will pay me. And I think I love to work; I feel free and very comfortable with my patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said that they pay you very well!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.0356511943212174, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What motivates me!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They pay me on time, because last month I received money on 22nd , so am on a sure deal that they will pay me. And I think I love to work; I feel free and very comfortable with my patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said that they pay you very well!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am paid on time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the funding for the healthcare; are you happy about it? Funding in general and in Rheumatic Heart Disease; are you comfortable with it as a health worker?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.261834660356908, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They pay me on time, because last month I received money on 22nd , so am on a sure deal that they will pay me. And I think I love to work; I feel free and very comfortable with my patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said that they pay you very well!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am paid on time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the funding for the healthcare; are you happy about it? Funding in general and in Rheumatic Heart Disease; are you comfortable with it as a health worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What can I say! I am not all comfortable because today it's my first time to see that there are people funding Rheumatic Heart Disease. So am just eager to see what you’re going to give and do for us. I am just happy that there is a program taking on such a disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So as a health worker, how are the numbers that you have? For example at this facility, do the number of health workers enable you to provide your work properly?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5131496226187866, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am paid on time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the funding for the healthcare; are you happy about it? Funding in general and in Rheumatic Heart Disease; are you comfortable with it as a health worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What can I say! I am not all comfortable because today it's my first time to see that there are people funding Rheumatic Heart Disease. So am just eager to see what you’re going to give and do for us. I am just happy that there is a program taking on such a disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So as a health worker, how are the numbers that you have? For example at this facility, do the number of health workers enable you to provide your work properly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The number of patients?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, the number of health workers. Are you enough?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7923884695764296, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What can I say! I am not all comfortable because today it's my first time to see that there are people funding Rheumatic Heart Disease. So am just eager to see what you’re going to give and do for us. I am just happy that there is a program taking on such a disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So as a health worker, how are the numbers that you have? For example at this facility, do the number of health workers enable you to provide your work properly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The number of patients?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, the number of health workers. Are you enough?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we are not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have been talking about barriers, but now we are talking about enablers to you as health workers; the numbers and qualifications."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.1026538550849216, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The number of patients?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, the number of health workers. Are you enough?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we are not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have been talking about barriers, but now we are talking about enablers to you as health workers; the numbers and qualifications."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For qualifications, most of us are enrolled nurses. We would like to go at least for upgrading although there are some issues that cannot help us to go on. But at least people are knowledgeable; however much they have little, they are knowledgeable on what they can do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so about the drugs, the medications; do the health workers have enough drugs and facilities to be able to provide care for the patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:255", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2251709500943573, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we are not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have been talking about barriers, but now we are talking about enablers to you as health workers; the numbers and qualifications."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For qualifications, most of us are enrolled nurses. We would like to go at least for upgrading although there are some issues that cannot help us to go on. But at least people are knowledgeable; however much they have little, they are knowledgeable on what they can do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so about the drugs, the medications; do the health workers have enough drugs and facilities to be able to provide care for the patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just once in a time when they are out of stock. In the past it was bad but these days, at least the management has improved; we get medicine, just little medicine. Now those like Digoxin and Warfarin for sure, I haven't seen them, maybe because they don't get such patients or they expire that's why they don't stock them; it might be the reason. What I know is that the administration can explain that very well because there are medicines they bring and they expire."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and then, as a health worker, do these medical report systems enable you to do your work?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:257", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.361301055660397, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For qualifications, most of us are enrolled nurses. We would like to go at least for upgrading although there are some issues that cannot help us to go on. But at least people are knowledgeable; however much they have little, they are knowledgeable on what they can do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so about the drugs, the medications; do the health workers have enough drugs and facilities to be able to provide care for the patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just once in a time when they are out of stock. In the past it was bad but these days, at least the management has improved; we get medicine, just little medicine. Now those like Digoxin and Warfarin for sure, I haven't seen them, maybe because they don't get such patients or they expire that's why they don't stock them; it might be the reason. What I know is that the administration can explain that very well because there are medicines they bring and they expire."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and then, as a health worker, do these medical report systems enable you to do your work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The medical records system, like you were telling me about the health information systems or records system. Do they enable you to do your work smoothly?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:261", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6806185872350579, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The medical records system, like you were telling me about the health information systems or records system. Do they enable you to do your work smoothly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they help us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Congestion of patients; that habit of patients standing. Now someone knows that even if I sit, they will call me. The stipulation of duties too, where you know that from here, you go there and from there, you go to such and such place. Those arrangements can smoothen the work very easily, because you know that the patient from here, they have to go to the next step."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you have told me earlier that you don't have guidelines and protocols! Because, I was going to ask you how they enable you to provide health care."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:263", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.867353985816731, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they help us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Congestion of patients; that habit of patients standing. Now someone knows that even if I sit, they will call me. The stipulation of duties too, where you know that from here, you go there and from there, you go to such and such place. Those arrangements can smoothen the work very easily, because you know that the patient from here, they have to go to the next step."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you have told me earlier that you don't have guidelines and protocols! Because, I was going to ask you how they enable you to provide health care."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me I don't have, we don't have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the outpatient department?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:265", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.963726650907479, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Congestion of patients; that habit of patients standing. Now someone knows that even if I sit, they will call me. The stipulation of duties too, where you know that from here, you go there and from there, you go to such and such place. Those arrangements can smoothen the work very easily, because you know that the patient from here, they have to go to the next step."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you have told me earlier that you don't have guidelines and protocols! Because, I was going to ask you how they enable you to provide health care."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me I don't have, we don't have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the outpatient department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They just have these ... they are called NBF."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "BNF? Like, British National Formula, but not proper guidelines?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:267", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0708073898971988, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me I don't have, we don't have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the outpatient department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They just have these ... they are called NBF."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "BNF? Like, British National Formula, but not proper guidelines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, on such a ward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So question number seven, this is my last question; generally, do you think that patients get the care they need or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:269", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1897859887746653, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They just have these ... they are called NBF."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "BNF? Like, British National Formula, but not proper guidelines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, on such a ward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So question number seven, this is my last question; generally, do you think that patients get the care they need or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do I think that patients get what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The care they need or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:271", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3219844319718503, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, on such a ward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So question number seven, this is my last question; generally, do you think that patients get the care they need or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do I think that patients get what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The care they need or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do think they get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about surgery! Do you think they get."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:273", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4688715910798338, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do I think that patients get what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The care they need or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do think they get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about surgery! Do you think they get."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do because we have surgeons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you have surgeons! And in regards to Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:275", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6320795456442596, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do think they get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about surgery! Do you think they get."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do because we have surgeons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you have surgeons! And in regards to Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rheumatic Heart Disease, I haven't got any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So according to you, do you think the patients get the care they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:277", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8134217173825107, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do because we have surgeons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you have surgeons! And in regards to Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rheumatic Heart Disease, I haven't got any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So according to you, do you think the patients get the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get the care they need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why or how?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.0149130193139007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rheumatic Heart Disease, I haven't got any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So according to you, do you think the patients get the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get the care they need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why or how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because when they come, they find when the health workers are there. If it's about a laboratory, it’s there, except for the few they tell, “With this one, you are supposed to buy,” or “with this one, you go outside because we don’t have it inside.” But for the best of the staffs, they do their best so that the patients get the medicine that they are supposed to get free of charge, and that's why you have seen them in large numbers. It is because they know where they are going to get and what they are supposed to get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much. So about patient safety and quality of care concerns, do you think health workers ensure safety of patients, and that the quality of care is given the way it should be?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:281", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1276811325710003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get the care they need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why or how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because when they come, they find when the health workers are there. If it's about a laboratory, it’s there, except for the few they tell, “With this one, you are supposed to buy,” or “with this one, you go outside because we don’t have it inside.” But for the best of the staffs, they do their best so that the patients get the medicine that they are supposed to get free of charge, and that's why you have seen them in large numbers. It is because they know where they are going to get and what they are supposed to get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much. So about patient safety and quality of care concerns, do you think health workers ensure safety of patients, and that the quality of care is given the way it should be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I do because with safety or privacy, each patient goes to the doctor in their separate room, and from there he (patient) has a book that he presents to the pharmacist or nurse; that is privacy. There is no packing for a patient in front of everyone; that is privacy. Then to the quality of care; being that they are handled by qualified staffs, most of the things they do are at least a standard. Another thing is that we are educating; we have students. Everyone tries her or his level best to give the right thing because he is teaching someone, like temperature. You have to explain whatever you do and even the student is behind you to learn what you are doing. So tomorrow, if there are students to treat us, you do the best of your knowledge. We always get CME's at least for some diseases. [Laughs]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So have you had preventable deaths here in the hospital, for example you see a patient, you lose a patient and as a health worker you think it would have been prevented? Have you had any of those?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:283", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2529790361900004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because when they come, they find when the health workers are there. If it's about a laboratory, it’s there, except for the few they tell, “With this one, you are supposed to buy,” or “with this one, you go outside because we don’t have it inside.” But for the best of the staffs, they do their best so that the patients get the medicine that they are supposed to get free of charge, and that's why you have seen them in large numbers. It is because they know where they are going to get and what they are supposed to get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much. So about patient safety and quality of care concerns, do you think health workers ensure safety of patients, and that the quality of care is given the way it should be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I do because with safety or privacy, each patient goes to the doctor in their separate room, and from there he (patient) has a book that he presents to the pharmacist or nurse; that is privacy. There is no packing for a patient in front of everyone; that is privacy. Then to the quality of care; being that they are handled by qualified staffs, most of the things they do are at least a standard. Another thing is that we are educating; we have students. Everyone tries her or his level best to give the right thing because he is teaching someone, like temperature. You have to explain whatever you do and even the student is behind you to learn what you are doing. So tomorrow, if there are students to treat us, you do the best of your knowledge. We always get CME's at least for some diseases. [Laughs]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So have you had preventable deaths here in the hospital, for example you see a patient, you lose a patient and as a health worker you think it would have been prevented? Have you had any of those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think could have caused any of that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:285", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3921989291000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I do because with safety or privacy, each patient goes to the doctor in their separate room, and from there he (patient) has a book that he presents to the pharmacist or nurse; that is privacy. There is no packing for a patient in front of everyone; that is privacy. Then to the quality of care; being that they are handled by qualified staffs, most of the things they do are at least a standard. Another thing is that we are educating; we have students. Everyone tries her or his level best to give the right thing because he is teaching someone, like temperature. You have to explain whatever you do and even the student is behind you to learn what you are doing. So tomorrow, if there are students to treat us, you do the best of your knowledge. We always get CME's at least for some diseases. [Laughs]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So have you had preventable deaths here in the hospital, for example you see a patient, you lose a patient and as a health worker you think it would have been prevented? Have you had any of those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think could have caused any of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Negligence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Negligence of health workers? Negligence of who?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:287", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5468876990000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think could have caused any of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Negligence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Negligence of health workers? Negligence of who?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them, it's for the patients; they take long to come to the hospitals. They first go to clinics, and other things I think occur because of money. There are some things that need that, like we can tell you, “buy this such that we continue with our job” and that’s when the medical worker is there. Otherwise there are some things that are not in the facility but the patient is supposed to buy them, so you continue with your work and then that time for looking for money comes. The patient will look form money here and there but you find that you are losing someone, and yet also the medical worker also cannot provide."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think that patients are dying in the community?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:289", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7187641100000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Negligence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Negligence of health workers? Negligence of who?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them, it's for the patients; they take long to come to the hospitals. They first go to clinics, and other things I think occur because of money. There are some things that need that, like we can tell you, “buy this such that we continue with our job” and that’s when the medical worker is there. Otherwise there are some things that are not in the facility but the patient is supposed to buy them, so you continue with your work and then that time for looking for money comes. The patient will look form money here and there but you find that you are losing someone, and yet also the medical worker also cannot provide."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think that patients are dying in the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are there dying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Without presenting to the hospital for health care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:291", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9097379, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them, it's for the patients; they take long to come to the hospitals. They first go to clinics, and other things I think occur because of money. There are some things that need that, like we can tell you, “buy this such that we continue with our job” and that’s when the medical worker is there. Otherwise there are some things that are not in the facility but the patient is supposed to buy them, so you continue with your work and then that time for looking for money comes. The patient will look form money here and there but you find that you are losing someone, and yet also the medical worker also cannot provide."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think that patients are dying in the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are there dying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Without presenting to the hospital for health care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think they could die in the community when there is a hospital like this one which has everything a patient needs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:293", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.121931, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are there dying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Without presenting to the hospital for health care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think they could die in the community when there is a hospital like this one which has everything a patient needs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them think of witchcraft! Now let's say I am talking of Rheumatic Heart Disease ... I have talked but I don't know if I have talked the right thing or not! I don't know because you haven't corrected me whether I was on track."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, we don't have wrong answers or right answers."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:295", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.24659, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think they could die in the community when there is a hospital like this one which has everything a patient needs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them think of witchcraft! Now let's say I am talking of Rheumatic Heart Disease ... I have talked but I don't know if I have talked the right thing or not! I don't know because you haven't corrected me whether I was on track."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, we don't have wrong answers or right answers."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But If someone treats flu and cough for so long and he goes to the hospital and gets all the medication for flu and cough, at the end of the day when he gets pain of the heart, he will just end up saying, “now this time this is a witchcraft which has witched me.” They are there because we have seen many coming saying that someone or the grandparent bewitched her. At the end of the day, this is a sickness that can be treated, then they die. Now for those that stay on islands, because for us here we get patients from islands, so they say, “we didn't have transport to reach.” So someone has died there because of poor transport. So they die like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:297", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3851, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them think of witchcraft! Now let's say I am talking of Rheumatic Heart Disease ... I have talked but I don't know if I have talked the right thing or not! I don't know because you haven't corrected me whether I was on track."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, we don't have wrong answers or right answers."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But If someone treats flu and cough for so long and he goes to the hospital and gets all the medication for flu and cough, at the end of the day when he gets pain of the heart, he will just end up saying, “now this time this is a witchcraft which has witched me.” They are there because we have seen many coming saying that someone or the grandparent bewitched her. At the end of the day, this is a sickness that can be treated, then they die. Now for those that stay on islands, because for us here we get patients from islands, so they say, “we didn't have transport to reach.” So someone has died there because of poor transport. So they die like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those are the ones I remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What in your opinion are the one or two most important things ministry of health could do to improve patient outcomes."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:303", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To improve?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For those ones in the islands, it is transport or at least to put a facility there with everything for them. Then motivation of health workers; they need to be motivated apart from the salary they get. I know everyone gets a salary but we need motivation. Then the stock-out; to give enough things to the facility to prevent those stock-outs because some people die because of that money. “You go and buy this” or “we don't have this in the hospital” or “go to CT scan!” In fact there are so many who die because of CT scan."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To help people to upgrade; there are so many nurses who want to upgrade, because for me, when I was joining the whatever, the government, they supported nurses or doctors to upgrade because it is a government policy. At least in the hospital, they should take some for upgrading but ever since I got here, I haven't heard anyone going for upgrading because of the government; people just put in their own money to upgrade."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what about in regards to Rheumatic Heart Disease! What do you think they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:305", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For those ones in the islands, it is transport or at least to put a facility there with everything for them. Then motivation of health workers; they need to be motivated apart from the salary they get. I know everyone gets a salary but we need motivation. Then the stock-out; to give enough things to the facility to prevent those stock-outs because some people die because of that money. “You go and buy this” or “we don't have this in the hospital” or “go to CT scan!” In fact there are so many who die because of CT scan."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To help people to upgrade; there are so many nurses who want to upgrade, because for me, when I was joining the whatever, the government, they supported nurses or doctors to upgrade because it is a government policy. At least in the hospital, they should take some for upgrading but ever since I got here, I haven't heard anyone going for upgrading because of the government; people just put in their own money to upgrade."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what about in regards to Rheumatic Heart Disease! What do you think they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ministry, to provide for us ECHO, the ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Echo cardiography the machine or?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00029:309", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ministry, to provide for us ECHO, the ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Echo cardiography the machine or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The person who can do that, the management, the machine and everything because you never know; I can't say that our doctors are bad or what, they are doing the right thing, but it's because of the patients. If they tell you that you go for Echo, you find that patient goes home and sits because of the money. But if it was the government, you just tell them, “you go for that test and come back to us, ” (in that case) they would have diagnosed heart disease. I can't say that RHD is not seen here completely, it is. But because of poor diagnosis and investigations, whenever they send them that you go do for me this and this, when they reach there that money is high, so they just sit at home. So they lead doctors into giving poor diagnosis. They provide more to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The ministry should also give specific training to the worker's about the heart disease and other rheumatic fevers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much for your time."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.326268374175447, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am 50 years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me about your qualifications and where you trained from."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am a medical clinical officer, I trained from Arua School of ... by then it was called ‘school of clinical officers’ and that was way back; I qualified in 1995. Then I also did Health Education and Promotion at Nkozi University and that was in 2010-2011, and I got an Advanced Diploma in health Education and Promotion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how long? You said you have been qualified since 1995."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, since 1995."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how many years are those?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.251409304639385, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am a medical clinical officer, I trained from Arua School of ... by then it was called ‘school of clinical officers’ and that was way back; I qualified in 1995. Then I also did Health Education and Promotion at Nkozi University and that was in 2010-2011, and I got an Advanced Diploma in health Education and Promotion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how long? You said you have been qualified since 1995."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, since 1995."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how many years are those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s about 25 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long have you been working here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.862015507049909, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here at Kajjansi?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is my forth year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "4 years!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s in April that I am going to make 4 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have been working here for the past 4 years!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.73557278561101, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is my forth year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "4 years!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s in April that I am going to make 4 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have been working here for the past 4 years!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So this is the clinician’s room?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.706191984012234, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s in April that I am going to make 4 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have been working here for the past 4 years!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So this is the clinician’s room?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, this is the clinician’s room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s where you see patients from!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 10.784657760013593, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So this is the clinician’s room?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, this is the clinician’s room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s where you see patients from!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it’s where I see the patients from."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the demographics of the patients you see here; what kind of patients do you see and what kind of diseases do they present with?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 9.760730844459546, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, this is the clinician’s room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s where you see patients from!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it’s where I see the patients from."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the demographics of the patients you see here; what kind of patients do you see and what kind of diseases do they present with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. It depends on the season; during this dry season people mostly come with cough, flu, fever, sore throat and skin infections, but when it’s the rainy season that’s when you will find that they come mostly with fevers and diarrheal diseases. We have a slum here called ... the hygienic condition of that place is not good that in during the rainy season we get the most diarrheal cases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of age groups do you usually have of the patients that come here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.178589827177274, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it’s where I see the patients from."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the demographics of the patients you see here; what kind of patients do you see and what kind of diseases do they present with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. It depends on the season; during this dry season people mostly come with cough, flu, fever, sore throat and skin infections, but when it’s the rainy season that’s when you will find that they come mostly with fevers and diarrheal diseases. We have a slum here called ... the hygienic condition of that place is not good that in during the rainy season we get the most diarrheal cases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of age groups do you usually have of the patients that come here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have young children from let me say, 2 months up to 90 years, because we have a diabetic clinic on Thursday and Friday and also an eye clinic on Thursdays. So mostly on Thursdays the elderly come mainly because they know that there is a diabetic clinic where we test them; for the eyes, we do eye screening on that day. So on Thursdays, the elderly are many but on the other days you would find the children and middle aged."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me about your training in RHD; do you have any training on Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.642877585752526, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. It depends on the season; during this dry season people mostly come with cough, flu, fever, sore throat and skin infections, but when it’s the rainy season that’s when you will find that they come mostly with fevers and diarrheal diseases. We have a slum here called ... the hygienic condition of that place is not good that in during the rainy season we get the most diarrheal cases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of age groups do you usually have of the patients that come here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have young children from let me say, 2 months up to 90 years, because we have a diabetic clinic on Thursday and Friday and also an eye clinic on Thursdays. So mostly on Thursdays the elderly come mainly because they know that there is a diabetic clinic where we test them; for the eyes, we do eye screening on that day. So on Thursdays, the elderly are many but on the other days you would find the children and middle aged."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me about your training in RHD; do you have any training on Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just as a special training?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well any training, whether in school or ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.158752873058362, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have young children from let me say, 2 months up to 90 years, because we have a diabetic clinic on Thursday and Friday and also an eye clinic on Thursdays. So mostly on Thursdays the elderly come mainly because they know that there is a diabetic clinic where we test them; for the eyes, we do eye screening on that day. So on Thursdays, the elderly are many but on the other days you would find the children and middle aged."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me about your training in RHD; do you have any training on Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just as a special training?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well any training, whether in school or ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In school, we were trained; when we were in medical school we were trained about RHD but after qualification, I have not had any special training for Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not had specific training!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.731947636731514, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just as a special training?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well any training, whether in school or ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In school, we were trained; when we were in medical school we were trained about RHD but after qualification, I have not had any special training for Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not had specific training!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you had some training during school!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.368830707479459, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In school, we were trained; when we were in medical school we were trained about RHD but after qualification, I have not had any special training for Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not had specific training!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you had some training during school!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During school, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But after that you haven’t!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.076478563866066, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you had some training during school!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During school, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But after that you haven’t!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So have you received any training since graduation? I mean since graduation when you became a medical officer?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.862753959851184, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "During school, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But after that you haven’t!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So have you received any training since graduation? I mean since graduation when you became a medical officer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On Rheumatic Heart Disease."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.736393288723537, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So have you received any training since graduation? I mean since graduation when you became a medical officer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I have not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You haven’t! So how many patients of Rheumatic Heart Disease do you often see in a day, week or month?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 9.551102825584612, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I have not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You haven’t! So how many patients of Rheumatic Heart Disease do you often see in a day, week or month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "huh, it’s very rare. Here! It is very rare, or maybe sometimes, let me say in a year I can see maybe two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about patients who come with Acute Rheumatic Fever?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.39011425064957, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "huh, it’s very rare. Here! It is very rare, or maybe sometimes, let me say in a year I can see maybe two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about patients who come with Acute Rheumatic Fever?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Acute? The problem with that is that sometimes we miss them because people come with fever, they come with a sore throat, and they come with maybe general body weakness ... Because when I auscultated the heart sound, I was hearing some murmurs. So what I did, I referred that patient Uganda Heart institute. I think that was last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was last year!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.32234916738841, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about patients who come with Acute Rheumatic Fever?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Acute? The problem with that is that sometimes we miss them because people come with fever, they come with a sore throat, and they come with maybe general body weakness ... Because when I auscultated the heart sound, I was hearing some murmurs. So what I did, I referred that patient Uganda Heart institute. I think that was last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was last year!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is the average age of patients you usually see with Rheumatic Heart Disease? Although you see them rarely, what is the average age of patients you usually see?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.247054630431567, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Acute? The problem with that is that sometimes we miss them because people come with fever, they come with a sore throat, and they come with maybe general body weakness ... Because when I auscultated the heart sound, I was hearing some murmurs. So what I did, I referred that patient Uganda Heart institute. I think that was last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was last year!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is the average age of patients you usually see with Rheumatic Heart Disease? Although you see them rarely, what is the average age of patients you usually see?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are just young people, like in 20s. Most of them are in 20s."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So most of them are in twenties! Are they working or not? Are they in school or?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.274505144923962, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is the average age of patients you usually see with Rheumatic Heart Disease? Although you see them rarely, what is the average age of patients you usually see?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are just young people, like in 20s. Most of them are in 20s."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So most of them are in twenties! Are they working or not? Are they in school or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are working and also some are students. Most of those we have seen are students."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of symptoms do they usually describe?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 11.41611682769329, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are just young people, like in 20s. Most of them are in 20s."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So most of them are in twenties! Are they working or not? Are they in school or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are working and also some are students. Most of those we have seen are students."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of symptoms do they usually describe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them come with fevers, headaches, sore throat and then the general body weakness, and because of the sore throat that’s why they have painful swallowing and so on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So generally, what about follow up and adherence; for those you have seen although they are few, do they usually adhere to treatment?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.351240919659212, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are working and also some are students. Most of those we have seen are students."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of symptoms do they usually describe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them come with fevers, headaches, sore throat and then the general body weakness, and because of the sore throat that’s why they have painful swallowing and so on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So generally, what about follow up and adherence; for those you have seen although they are few, do they usually adhere to treatment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah, they adhere to treatment because what I usually do is that when I maybe give them amoxicillin and so on, because I may sometimes give them PFStat for maybe five days, when they have completed treatment I usually tell them to come back and then I review again. When I see that there is improvement, I tell them to ensure that if there’s more or the symptoms persist or if they get that same sore throat within 1 or 2 months, so when they come back again, what I do is to just give them Benzathine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what sort of barriers do they usually or commonly state to taking the care they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.056934355176903, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them come with fevers, headaches, sore throat and then the general body weakness, and because of the sore throat that’s why they have painful swallowing and so on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So generally, what about follow up and adherence; for those you have seen although they are few, do they usually adhere to treatment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah, they adhere to treatment because what I usually do is that when I maybe give them amoxicillin and so on, because I may sometimes give them PFStat for maybe five days, when they have completed treatment I usually tell them to come back and then I review again. When I see that there is improvement, I tell them to ensure that if there’s more or the symptoms persist or if they get that same sore throat within 1 or 2 months, so when they come back again, what I do is to just give them Benzathine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what sort of barriers do they usually or commonly state to taking the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here the barrier, in most cases is that sometimes they are mismanaged. Because, somebody can come here with maybe a sore throat but you give an antibiotic with no Penicillin in it! But we also attribute that to maybe lack of enough knowledge for some of the staff. Then the other barrier is that they sometimes come when we don’t have any antibiotic in the facility. If you had come here last week, because we got our supplies on Friday, but if you had come here on Wednesdays, we didn’t have Benzathine, Amoxillin and even Septrine was not there. I think we had only remained with a few stocks of ampicillin injections. That also brings about the issue of mainly the supplies."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the main issue you have is mainly the supplies!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.841038172418781, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah, they adhere to treatment because what I usually do is that when I maybe give them amoxicillin and so on, because I may sometimes give them PFStat for maybe five days, when they have completed treatment I usually tell them to come back and then I review again. When I see that there is improvement, I tell them to ensure that if there’s more or the symptoms persist or if they get that same sore throat within 1 or 2 months, so when they come back again, what I do is to just give them Benzathine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what sort of barriers do they usually or commonly state to taking the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here the barrier, in most cases is that sometimes they are mismanaged. Because, somebody can come here with maybe a sore throat but you give an antibiotic with no Penicillin in it! But we also attribute that to maybe lack of enough knowledge for some of the staff. Then the other barrier is that they sometimes come when we don’t have any antibiotic in the facility. If you had come here last week, because we got our supplies on Friday, but if you had come here on Wednesdays, we didn’t have Benzathine, Amoxillin and even Septrine was not there. I think we had only remained with a few stocks of ampicillin injections. That also brings about the issue of mainly the supplies."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the main issue you have is mainly the supplies!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because my next question was like; what kind of barriers do you perceive they face in getting the care they need? And like you said earlier that the main issue they face is when they come here, sometimes the drugs are not there."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.712264636020867, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here the barrier, in most cases is that sometimes they are mismanaged. Because, somebody can come here with maybe a sore throat but you give an antibiotic with no Penicillin in it! But we also attribute that to maybe lack of enough knowledge for some of the staff. Then the other barrier is that they sometimes come when we don’t have any antibiotic in the facility. If you had come here last week, because we got our supplies on Friday, but if you had come here on Wednesdays, we didn’t have Benzathine, Amoxillin and even Septrine was not there. I think we had only remained with a few stocks of ampicillin injections. That also brings about the issue of mainly the supplies."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the main issue you have is mainly the supplies!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because my next question was like; what kind of barriers do you perceive they face in getting the care they need? And like you said earlier that the main issue they face is when they come here, sometimes the drugs are not there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So besides that, do they find the health workers there all that kind of stuff?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 10.75588226669243, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So besides that, do they find the health workers there all that kind of stuff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In most times we are there, because we ensure that there is staff at the facility 24/7."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now I am going to ask you about the local system barriers; which of these pieces is not working from you and why? I am asking about administration and leadership at the district in regards to RHD."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 7.506535851880477, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In most times we are there, because we ensure that there is staff at the facility 24/7."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now I am going to ask you about the local system barriers; which of these pieces is not working from you and why? I am asking about administration and leadership at the district in regards to RHD."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the district ... because I am sure what they would have done maybe, because you are telling us that at the Uganda Heart Institute there are many cases from Wakiso, and I am sure that when they go for these National Health Assemblies, some of these findings are shared and the DHO attends. So I think from attending those health assemblies and they find out that we have many cases at the Uganda Heart Institute, I think they would have come and informed us about it, but they have been informing us about immunization and so on. However, with the heart, if they had informed us about it, I think we would be vigilant and if you see any patients with sore throat to make sure that they get the right treatment, or that instead of giving them other antibiotics without Penicillin, we make sure that everyone ... because sometimes you may find that maybe it is the nurse who is seeing the patient, we ensure that we empower them also. So the district had that weakness but good enough you came on board and educated them and they called us also. So I am sure that we are also on board now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So funding for health care in general, how do you see funding? How do you see funding of this health Centre in general and in regards to RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.007262057644974, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now I am going to ask you about the local system barriers; which of these pieces is not working from you and why? I am asking about administration and leadership at the district in regards to RHD."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the district ... because I am sure what they would have done maybe, because you are telling us that at the Uganda Heart Institute there are many cases from Wakiso, and I am sure that when they go for these National Health Assemblies, some of these findings are shared and the DHO attends. So I think from attending those health assemblies and they find out that we have many cases at the Uganda Heart Institute, I think they would have come and informed us about it, but they have been informing us about immunization and so on. However, with the heart, if they had informed us about it, I think we would be vigilant and if you see any patients with sore throat to make sure that they get the right treatment, or that instead of giving them other antibiotics without Penicillin, we make sure that everyone ... because sometimes you may find that maybe it is the nurse who is seeing the patient, we ensure that we empower them also. So the district had that weakness but good enough you came on board and educated them and they called us also. So I am sure that we are also on board now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So funding for health care in general, how do you see funding? How do you see funding of this health Centre in general and in regards to RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The funding, like government for example, for us with supplies and so on, the government puts money in National Medical Stores and the funding was not good because for this financial year, they have put there 22million for the whole financial year!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For this facility?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.563624508494415, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the district ... because I am sure what they would have done maybe, because you are telling us that at the Uganda Heart Institute there are many cases from Wakiso, and I am sure that when they go for these National Health Assemblies, some of these findings are shared and the DHO attends. So I think from attending those health assemblies and they find out that we have many cases at the Uganda Heart Institute, I think they would have come and informed us about it, but they have been informing us about immunization and so on. However, with the heart, if they had informed us about it, I think we would be vigilant and if you see any patients with sore throat to make sure that they get the right treatment, or that instead of giving them other antibiotics without Penicillin, we make sure that everyone ... because sometimes you may find that maybe it is the nurse who is seeing the patient, we ensure that we empower them also. So the district had that weakness but good enough you came on board and educated them and they called us also. So I am sure that we are also on board now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So funding for health care in general, how do you see funding? How do you see funding of this health Centre in general and in regards to RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The funding, like government for example, for us with supplies and so on, the government puts money in National Medical Stores and the funding was not good because for this financial year, they have put there 22million for the whole financial year!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For this facility?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, just for this facility."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For these number of patients!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.9595827872160165, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The funding, like government for example, for us with supplies and so on, the government puts money in National Medical Stores and the funding was not good because for this financial year, they have put there 22million for the whole financial year!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For this facility?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, just for this facility."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For these number of patients!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, 22 million, but they have promised us that in the next financial year, we shall get the health Centre IV kit and they would have increased our funding from 22 to 150 million. So I’m sure that come this July this year, I think the funding would have improved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But that’s in general."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.399536430240018, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, just for this facility."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For these number of patients!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, 22 million, but they have promised us that in the next financial year, we shall get the health Centre IV kit and they would have increased our funding from 22 to 150 million. So I’m sure that come this July this year, I think the funding would have improved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But that’s in general."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But in budget is there funding for Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.8883738113777975, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, 22 million, but they have promised us that in the next financial year, we shall get the health Centre IV kit and they would have increased our funding from 22 to 150 million. So I’m sure that come this July this year, I think the funding would have improved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But that’s in general."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But in budget is there funding for Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, because now when they went for the procurement plan, what they were emphasizing is that they looked at non-communicable diseases. They told us we have to ensure that we plan for those diseases like hypertension, diabetes, and screening for cancers and so on, and also Rheumatic ... I am sure Rheumatic Heart Disease will be taken in that same category."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So health workers; how many health workers do you have here? What are their numbers, qualifications and how long do the patients take to wait?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.431526457086441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But in budget is there funding for Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, because now when they went for the procurement plan, what they were emphasizing is that they looked at non-communicable diseases. They told us we have to ensure that we plan for those diseases like hypertension, diabetes, and screening for cancers and so on, and also Rheumatic ... I am sure Rheumatic Heart Disease will be taken in that same category."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So health workers; how many health workers do you have here? What are their numbers, qualifications and how long do the patients take to wait?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, now in this facility we have 32 health workers. Okay, 30 because 2 are cleaners. So its 30 health workers and 3 of them are on study leave. So we have got 2 senior clinical officers; we are two, and then we have a Senior Nursing Officer. With the nurses, we have 2 Nursing officers; one is nursing and one is a counselor. We had a midwifery nursing officer but she left; she went to nursing school and is now a tutor. Then we have like 5 enrolled nurses including those with enrolled psychiatry. Then we have like 4 Enrolled Midwives because of the heaviness of this facility. Then we have got a Dental officer, etymology officer, we have a Health Educator. Good enough our health educator is also a clinical officer by training, so she also helps us when we are clerking patients. Then we only have 3 Nursing Assistants but we make sure that we don’t allow a Nursing Assistant to see a patient; we make sure that we have a nurse or a clinical officer around all the time. Nursing Assistants are usually at the dispensing side, immunization and so on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which means that according to the numbers of health workers you have, you are not badly off!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.035029396762712, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, because now when they went for the procurement plan, what they were emphasizing is that they looked at non-communicable diseases. They told us we have to ensure that we plan for those diseases like hypertension, diabetes, and screening for cancers and so on, and also Rheumatic ... I am sure Rheumatic Heart Disease will be taken in that same category."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So health workers; how many health workers do you have here? What are their numbers, qualifications and how long do the patients take to wait?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, now in this facility we have 32 health workers. Okay, 30 because 2 are cleaners. So its 30 health workers and 3 of them are on study leave. So we have got 2 senior clinical officers; we are two, and then we have a Senior Nursing Officer. With the nurses, we have 2 Nursing officers; one is nursing and one is a counselor. We had a midwifery nursing officer but she left; she went to nursing school and is now a tutor. Then we have like 5 enrolled nurses including those with enrolled psychiatry. Then we have like 4 Enrolled Midwives because of the heaviness of this facility. Then we have got a Dental officer, etymology officer, we have a Health Educator. Good enough our health educator is also a clinical officer by training, so she also helps us when we are clerking patients. Then we only have 3 Nursing Assistants but we make sure that we don’t allow a Nursing Assistant to see a patient; we make sure that we have a nurse or a clinical officer around all the time. Nursing Assistants are usually at the dispensing side, immunization and so on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which means that according to the numbers of health workers you have, you are not badly off!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are not badly off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the medications like Benzathine penicillin, anti-coagulation and heart failure drugs, do have those?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.594477107514124, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, now in this facility we have 32 health workers. Okay, 30 because 2 are cleaners. So its 30 health workers and 3 of them are on study leave. So we have got 2 senior clinical officers; we are two, and then we have a Senior Nursing Officer. With the nurses, we have 2 Nursing officers; one is nursing and one is a counselor. We had a midwifery nursing officer but she left; she went to nursing school and is now a tutor. Then we have like 5 enrolled nurses including those with enrolled psychiatry. Then we have like 4 Enrolled Midwives because of the heaviness of this facility. Then we have got a Dental officer, etymology officer, we have a Health Educator. Good enough our health educator is also a clinical officer by training, so she also helps us when we are clerking patients. Then we only have 3 Nursing Assistants but we make sure that we don’t allow a Nursing Assistant to see a patient; we make sure that we have a nurse or a clinical officer around all the time. Nursing Assistants are usually at the dispensing side, immunization and so on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which means that according to the numbers of health workers you have, you are not badly off!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are not badly off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the medications like Benzathine penicillin, anti-coagulation and heart failure drugs, do have those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have. We Benzathine but we don’t have these anti-coagulation drugs because, even Aspirin is one of them but we don’t even get Aspirin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t get Aspirin from NMS?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.104974563904582, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are not badly off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the medications like Benzathine penicillin, anti-coagulation and heart failure drugs, do have those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have. We Benzathine but we don’t have these anti-coagulation drugs because, even Aspirin is one of them but we don’t even get Aspirin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t get Aspirin from NMS?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t; this facility doesn’t get Aspirins."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the Warfarin?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.6721939598939795, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have. We Benzathine but we don’t have these anti-coagulation drugs because, even Aspirin is one of them but we don’t even get Aspirin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t get Aspirin from NMS?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t; this facility doesn’t get Aspirins."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the Warfarin?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Warfarin, we don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it because it’s a Health Centre IV or?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.311350567770345, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Warfarin, we don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it because it’s a Health Centre IV or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a Health Centre IV but getting the supplies of a Health Center III."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now even in our hypertensive clinic they (patients) just buy Cardiac Aspirin. Because if it was there we could have been packing for them, but the rest like Nifedipine and so on, we give them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So one of the main issues you have is supplies!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5681672975226055, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a Health Centre IV but getting the supplies of a Health Center III."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now even in our hypertensive clinic they (patients) just buy Cardiac Aspirin. Because if it was there we could have been packing for them, but the rest like Nifedipine and so on, we give them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So one of the main issues you have is supplies!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they give you Benzathine but in limited amount!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8535192194695616, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now even in our hypertensive clinic they (patients) just buy Cardiac Aspirin. Because if it was there we could have been packing for them, but the rest like Nifedipine and so on, we give them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So one of the main issues you have is supplies!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they give you Benzathine but in limited amount!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they give us in limited amounts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you are at a different level but getting drugs of a different level!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.170576910521735, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they give you Benzathine but in limited amount!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they give us in limited amounts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you are at a different level but getting drugs of a different level!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So Health Information and medical records; how is your medical records system, integration within the facility for in and out patients? Do you have registers?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.9142924821255987, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So Health Information and medical records; how is your medical records system, integration within the facility for in and out patients? Do you have registers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have registers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Medical registers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, medical registers in all the departments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you save your information or data?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.2381027579173316, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have registers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Medical registers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, medical registers in all the departments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you save your information or data?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which one? The monthly or?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For example, now you are seeing patients, where do you keep your data?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4867808421303685, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, medical registers in all the departments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you save your information or data?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which one? The monthly or?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For example, now you are seeing patients, where do you keep your data?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now this information is put in a register and after the register is full, we have a place where we keep all the registers. The Health Information Assistants keeps them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you have an electronic system where you keep all data or you only use the books?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.763089824589298, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which one? The monthly or?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For example, now you are seeing patients, where do you keep your data?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now this information is put in a register and after the register is full, we have a place where we keep all the registers. The Health Information Assistants keeps them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you have an electronic system where you keep all data or you only use the books?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The electronic is done for the reports; after extracting the reports, we put it in the system. Then the electronic for patients is only done at the HIV clinic; from there we have a computer where we enter all the details."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Only at the HIV clinic?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.07009980509922, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now this information is put in a register and after the register is full, we have a place where we keep all the registers. The Health Information Assistants keeps them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you have an electronic system where you keep all data or you only use the books?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The electronic is done for the reports; after extracting the reports, we put it in the system. Then the electronic for patients is only done at the HIV clinic; from there we have a computer where we enter all the details."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Only at the HIV clinic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That one we use it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any registers for Acute Rheumatic Fever?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4112220056658002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The electronic is done for the reports; after extracting the reports, we put it in the system. Then the electronic for patients is only done at the HIV clinic; from there we have a computer where we enter all the details."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Only at the HIV clinic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That one we use it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any registers for Acute Rheumatic Fever?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have a special register"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have specific registers for specific patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.790246672962, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That one we use it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any registers for Acute Rheumatic Fever?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have a special register"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have specific registers for specific patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we don’t have; it’s a general register."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Has the health ministry provided any guidelines or protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease and care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.21138519218, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have a special register"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have specific registers for specific patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we don’t have; it’s a general register."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Has the health ministry provided any guidelines or protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease and care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What are the local health system enablers? Which of these pieces is working for you; Perception of patient outcomes? Generally, do you think the patients are getting the care they need or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.6793168802, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we don’t have; it’s a general register."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Has the health ministry provided any guidelines or protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease and care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What are the local health system enablers? Which of these pieces is working for you; Perception of patient outcomes? Generally, do you think the patients are getting the care they need or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do. Now when a patient comes, I can see that patient very well, I even health-educate the patient very well and tell him/her what they are suffering from, give a prescription and also health- educate. For example, for sore throat I can say, “I am going to give you these antibiotics but there are other things you can do like using salty water which can work.” Then I take them to get the injection, pain killers and so on. But sometimes when the supplies are not there, I can do all this, but at the other side where they are supposed to get the medicine, that’s where the charges comes in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that’s when they have to buy the medicine?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.199240978, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What are the local health system enablers? Which of these pieces is working for you; Perception of patient outcomes? Generally, do you think the patients are getting the care they need or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do. Now when a patient comes, I can see that patient very well, I even health-educate the patient very well and tell him/her what they are suffering from, give a prescription and also health- educate. For example, for sore throat I can say, “I am going to give you these antibiotics but there are other things you can do like using salty water which can work.” Then I take them to get the injection, pain killers and so on. But sometimes when the supplies are not there, I can do all this, but at the other side where they are supposed to get the medicine, that’s where the charges comes in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that’s when they have to buy the medicine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this means that the patient would have got the care but would not have got the medication!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.77693442, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do. Now when a patient comes, I can see that patient very well, I even health-educate the patient very well and tell him/her what they are suffering from, give a prescription and also health- educate. For example, for sore throat I can say, “I am going to give you these antibiotics but there are other things you can do like using salty water which can work.” Then I take them to get the injection, pain killers and so on. But sometimes when the supplies are not there, I can do all this, but at the other side where they are supposed to get the medicine, that’s where the charges comes in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that’s when they have to buy the medicine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this means that the patient would have got the care but would not have got the medication!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but sometimes maybe when I write Benzathine, sometimes when they buy it, they bring and we inject them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me patient safety and the quality of care concerns; do the patients feel safe? How is their quality of care? Have you had any incidents where ...?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.1965938, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this means that the patient would have got the care but would not have got the medication!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but sometimes maybe when I write Benzathine, sometimes when they buy it, they bring and we inject them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me patient safety and the quality of care concerns; do the patients feel safe? How is their quality of care? Have you had any incidents where ...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It used to be there in HIV (clinic) but we have now minimized it. Because, for instance in the case of HIV, the results had some issues but now days after counselling the patient, because those days when I had just come here, whenever a patient was tested HIV positive, anyone could know. But nowadays we have minimized that; we have counselors so we refer those patients there and they do everything there; you cannot know who is positive or negative. And even here for the other cases, we ensure that there is privacy; we sit with them here and do everything here, but for children, sometimes when they are many, sometimes the ward clinician sits the other side and the children sometimes are seem from outside there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Outside like in the corridor?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.662882, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but sometimes maybe when I write Benzathine, sometimes when they buy it, they bring and we inject them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me patient safety and the quality of care concerns; do the patients feel safe? How is their quality of care? Have you had any incidents where ...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It used to be there in HIV (clinic) but we have now minimized it. Because, for instance in the case of HIV, the results had some issues but now days after counselling the patient, because those days when I had just come here, whenever a patient was tested HIV positive, anyone could know. But nowadays we have minimized that; we have counselors so we refer those patients there and they do everything there; you cannot know who is positive or negative. And even here for the other cases, we ensure that there is privacy; we sit with them here and do everything here, but for children, sometimes when they are many, sometimes the ward clinician sits the other side and the children sometimes are seem from outside there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Outside like in the corridor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not outside; I mean out there where we were seated. When we are two, one sits the other side and make sure that the adults are seated inside here while those with children, we see them from the other side."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that your patients are safe their confidentiality is ensured!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 5.18098, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It used to be there in HIV (clinic) but we have now minimized it. Because, for instance in the case of HIV, the results had some issues but now days after counselling the patient, because those days when I had just come here, whenever a patient was tested HIV positive, anyone could know. But nowadays we have minimized that; we have counselors so we refer those patients there and they do everything there; you cannot know who is positive or negative. And even here for the other cases, we ensure that there is privacy; we sit with them here and do everything here, but for children, sometimes when they are many, sometimes the ward clinician sits the other side and the children sometimes are seem from outside there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Outside like in the corridor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not outside; I mean out there where we were seated. When we are two, one sits the other side and make sure that the adults are seated inside here while those with children, we see them from the other side."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that your patients are safe their confidentiality is ensured!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are safe and their confidentiality is assured."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to the hospital for care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3122000000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not outside; I mean out there where we were seated. When we are two, one sits the other side and make sure that the adults are seated inside here while those with children, we see them from the other side."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that your patients are safe their confidentiality is ensured!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are safe and their confidentiality is assured."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to the hospital for care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think some of them die but we have got a VHT system and each VHT (personnel) is assigned a household. They ensure that they go to those households with patients and they are sent to facilities. Sometimes we have been, like now for TB, we oriented them one time and told them “whoever is coughing, make sure that they come.” Some of them (community members) were refusing but we involved the LC (Local Council). On time we had a multi-drug resistant TB patient, we referred the patient to Mulago but the patient took off and came back to the village. People from Mulago Hospital came here and they were looking for that patient, until the community sat and the Chairman told him “we are going to chase you away from the village!” So the patient had to agree and went back to Mulago. So our VHTs have helped us in ensuring that those people who are in the villages are sent here. They die but nowadays, with the improved VHT system, it is minimal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So according to you, in your opinion, what would be the most important things Ministry of Health would do to improve the outcomes of patient care generally and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4580000000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are safe and their confidentiality is assured."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to the hospital for care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think some of them die but we have got a VHT system and each VHT (personnel) is assigned a household. They ensure that they go to those households with patients and they are sent to facilities. Sometimes we have been, like now for TB, we oriented them one time and told them “whoever is coughing, make sure that they come.” Some of them (community members) were refusing but we involved the LC (Local Council). On time we had a multi-drug resistant TB patient, we referred the patient to Mulago but the patient took off and came back to the village. People from Mulago Hospital came here and they were looking for that patient, until the community sat and the Chairman told him “we are going to chase you away from the village!” So the patient had to agree and went back to Mulago. So our VHTs have helped us in ensuring that those people who are in the villages are sent here. They die but nowadays, with the improved VHT system, it is minimal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So according to you, in your opinion, what would be the most important things Ministry of Health would do to improve the outcomes of patient care generally and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What Ministry Of Health can do?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What in your opinion are the one or two most important things Ministry Of Health can do to help improve?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What Ministry Of Health can do?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What in your opinion are the one or two most important things Ministry Of Health can do to help improve?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One, they should increase funding in the facility and with funding, so that we can also ... we have health inspectors and health assistants and they are people who do home visits and so on. So maybe if they increase funding, we can know that if we are having a patient A, B, C who is suffering from Rheumatic Heart Disease, so when we are going for those outreaches, we can know that in Location A if you have gone for maybe immunization, HCT and so on but there is a rheumatic heart patient around, after doing that activity, you can do a health visit; you can go to that home and see. Then it also helps the health educator when there is enough funding. Those days we had some funding and the health educator could go to the villages and do health education, and if the funding is enough, we can engage the health educator to move maybe to the sub counties, maybe when there is a council meeting; he goes and orients them. You know those people also have where they come from; so if you tell them, “If you have a sore throat please you go to the facility.” Some of them will go and be diagnosed early and maybe treat the sore throat which, because of the complications or side effects of the sore throat, will prevent you from getting them. So if we orient those councilors and so on, I think it will ensure that Rheumatic Heart Disease cases goes down. So, it is the funding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have told you about it already; we need funding and training."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And also dissemination of that information to the lower facilities."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have told you about it already; we need funding and training."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And also dissemination of that information to the lower facilities."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, to the lower facilities. Good enough, you came late but there is a new policy which is coming called Result-Based Financing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through the Ministry Of Finance, Ministry Of Health and World Bank, our facility was assessed and we are through. So we have started the planning system for the next financial year and these are some of the things we are going to put in our work plan so that the health educator, in all his/her activities, we have to include Rheumatic Heart Disease. Because, with hypertension and diabetes, that one we did it and now we have like 500 clients in our clinic. So I think that if we get the funds, we are going to include Rheumatic Heart Disease such that when the Health educator goes out, he can educate the people so that they come early to the facilities and those who have the symptoms, they can come and we assess them and we see whether we retain them here or refer them to Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, to the lower facilities. Good enough, you came late but there is a new policy which is coming called Result-Based Financing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through the Ministry Of Finance, Ministry Of Health and World Bank, our facility was assessed and we are through. So we have started the planning system for the next financial year and these are some of the things we are going to put in our work plan so that the health educator, in all his/her activities, we have to include Rheumatic Heart Disease. Because, with hypertension and diabetes, that one we did it and now we have like 500 clients in our clinic. So I think that if we get the funds, we are going to include Rheumatic Heart Disease such that when the Health educator goes out, he can educate the people so that they come early to the facilities and those who have the symptoms, they can come and we assess them and we see whether we retain them here or refer them to Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You’re welcome."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Basically that was my last question."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00026:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through the Ministry Of Finance, Ministry Of Health and World Bank, our facility was assessed and we are through. So we have started the planning system for the next financial year and these are some of the things we are going to put in our work plan so that the health educator, in all his/her activities, we have to include Rheumatic Heart Disease. Because, with hypertension and diabetes, that one we did it and now we have like 500 clients in our clinic. So I think that if we get the funds, we are going to include Rheumatic Heart Disease such that when the Health educator goes out, he can educate the people so that they come early to the facilities and those who have the symptoms, they can come and we assess them and we see whether we retain them here or refer them to Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You’re welcome."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Basically that was my last question."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wow, wow, wow"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much for your time."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4015557886387766, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born in 1977."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "1977?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother in the year 1977 when you were born, which activities were taking place by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "By the time I was born I found people were cultivating, they were keeping animals, and the ones who were trading were trading."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you able to remember the month in which you were born?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.666057323235632, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know the month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "1977."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "1977?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, which village, district or province were you brought up in the time you were born?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.962285914706258, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "1977."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "1977?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, which village, district or province were you brought up in the time you were born?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born in Misima village and grew up in the same village and I was married and come to the village of Kibaya."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Misima in which District?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.180317683006953, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, which village, district or province were you brought up in the time you were born?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born in Misima village and grew up in the same village and I was married and come to the village of Kibaya."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Misima in which District?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Handeni District."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Misima is in which Ward?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3114640922299472, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born in Misima village and grew up in the same village and I was married and come to the village of Kibaya."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Misima in which District?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Handeni District."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Misima is in which Ward?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Misima Ward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in which Region?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34607121358883014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Handeni District."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Misima is in which Ward?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Misima Ward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in which Region?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tanga Region."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would like to know the structure of your family by the time you were born. I mean was it a family whereby you were living the children, father and mother without relatives or how were you living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3845235706542557, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Misima Ward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in which Region?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tanga Region."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would like to know the structure of your family by the time you were born. I mean was it a family whereby you were living the children, father and mother without relatives or how were you living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were living with the father and mother but the father died by the time I was big girl."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But was your father alive by the time you were still young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.42724841183806184, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tanga Region."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would like to know the structure of your family by the time you were born. I mean was it a family whereby you were living the children, father and mother without relatives or how were you living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were living with the father and mother but the father died by the time I was big girl."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But was your father alive by the time you were still young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you live together with other relatives?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4747204575978465, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were living with the father and mother but the father died by the time I was big girl."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But was your father alive by the time you were still young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you live together with other relatives?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our home? We were living near them in the same area but everyone was in their homestead."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying the same area? Does it mean you were living in the same homestead or one house is here and the other one is there?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5274671751087183, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you live together with other relatives?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our home? We were living near them in the same area but everyone was in their homestead."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying the same area? Does it mean you were living in the same homestead or one house is here and the other one is there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of us were living in the same homestead and others were living in other area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were living in the same homestead?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.586074639009687, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our home? We were living near them in the same area but everyone was in their homestead."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying the same area? Does it mean you were living in the same homestead or one house is here and the other one is there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of us were living in the same homestead and others were living in other area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were living in the same homestead?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who are of the people you were living with in your homestead?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6511940433440967, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of us were living in the same homestead and others were living in other area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were living in the same homestead?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who are of the people you were living with in your homestead?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My grandmother, uncle’s aunty and cousins."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you living with them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7235489370489964, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who are of the people you were living with in your homestead?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My grandmother, uncle’s aunty and cousins."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you living with them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And after the mother had cooked the food how were you eating that food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8039432633877737, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My grandmother, uncle’s aunty and cousins."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you living with them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And after the mother had cooked the food how were you eating that food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating together in the same house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You eat in the same house?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8932702926530819, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And after the mother had cooked the food how were you eating that food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating together in the same house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You eat in the same house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about the responsibilities in the family by the time you were living with your family? how were the roles and duties distributed among yourselves staring with adults in the family what were they doing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9925225473923132, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating together in the same house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You eat in the same house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about the responsibilities in the family by the time you were living with your family? how were the roles and duties distributed among yourselves staring with adults in the family what were they doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The main responsibility was looking after the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The men were looking after the cows?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1028028304359034, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about the responsibilities in the family by the time you were living with your family? how were the roles and duties distributed among yourselves staring with adults in the family what were they doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The main responsibility was looking after the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The men were looking after the cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were looking after the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from looking after the animals what else were they doing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.2253364782621148, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The main responsibility was looking after the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The men were looking after the cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were looking after the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from looking after the animals what else were they doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other activity was farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old were the men who were concerned with looking after the animals and farming?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25037386473568296, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were looking after the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from looking after the animals what else were they doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other activity was farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old were the men who were concerned with looking after the animals and farming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The men aged twenty five years to thirty those were our brothers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the two activities, which other activities were for the big men?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.27819318303964774, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other activity was farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old were the men who were concerned with looking after the animals and farming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The men aged twenty five years to thirty those were our brothers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the two activities, which other activities were for the big men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their work was that one of looking after the cows and farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about on the side of women? What were their activities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3091035367107197, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The men aged twenty five years to thirty those were our brothers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the two activities, which other activities were for the big men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their work was that one of looking after the cows and farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about on the side of women? What were their activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The activities of the girls was helping the household chores and also sometimes going to the farm but in most cases it was the household chores."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, what do you mean when you say household chores?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3434483741230219, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their work was that one of looking after the cows and farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about on the side of women? What were their activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The activities of the girls was helping the household chores and also sometimes going to the farm but in most cases it was the household chores."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, what do you mean when you say household chores?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fetching water, cutting firewood, cooking, washing utensils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about on the side of the mature women? What were their responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38160930458113546, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The activities of the girls was helping the household chores and also sometimes going to the farm but in most cases it was the household chores."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, what do you mean when you say household chores?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fetching water, cutting firewood, cooking, washing utensils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about on the side of the mature women? What were their responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mature women were going to the farm, they were fetching water, and they were cutting firewood and cooking for the children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The girls were not cooking even in a single day?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.42401033842348385, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fetching water, cutting firewood, cooking, washing utensils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about on the side of the mature women? What were their responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mature women were going to the farm, they were fetching water, and they were cutting firewood and cooking for the children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The girls were not cooking even in a single day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were cooking."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the difference between the duties of the women and the girls?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47112259824831537, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mature women were going to the farm, they were fetching water, and they were cutting firewood and cooking for the children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The girls were not cooking even in a single day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were cooking."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the difference between the duties of the women and the girls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no any difference, they were all the same. They were helping one another. If she goes to get the firewood the mother was not going, if they go to get water the mother was doing something else or she would relax."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the responsibilities of the father by that time? Which were the responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5234695536092393, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were cooking."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the difference between the duties of the women and the girls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no any difference, they were all the same. They were helping one another. If she goes to get the firewood the mother was not going, if they go to get water the mother was doing something else or she would relax."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the responsibilities of the father by that time? Which were the responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The father's responsibilities were farming and also looking after the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the difference between the father's responsibilities and the elder brother's responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5816328373435992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no any difference, they were all the same. They were helping one another. If she goes to get the firewood the mother was not going, if they go to get water the mother was doing something else or she would relax."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the responsibilities of the father by that time? Which were the responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The father's responsibilities were farming and also looking after the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the difference between the father's responsibilities and the elder brother's responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The difference was seeking money, my father would look for money and if there is no food he would look for food that is the difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I would like to know how many children you were in your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.718065231288394, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The difference was seeking money, my father would look for money and if there is no food he would look for food that is the difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I would like to know how many children you were in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were nine children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nine children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how many people were you in the household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7978502569871043, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were nine children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nine children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how many people were you in the household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not understand that one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What don’t you understanding?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.886500285541227, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how many people were you in the household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not understand that one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What don’t you understanding?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not understand how many people were there in the area we were living?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is not the area, I mean in your household your family the people you are related to"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.98500031726803, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not understand that one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What don’t you understanding?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not understand how many people were there in the area we were living?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is not the area, I mean in your household your family the people you are related to"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The people we are related to,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeeh your family and also other people you were living with in that homestead?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0944447969644777, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not understand how many people were there in the area we were living?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is not the area, I mean in your household your family the people you are related to"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The people we are related to,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeeh your family and also other people you were living with in that homestead?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee , in the same homestead I do not understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and in your family of nine children how many managed to go to school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2160497744049752, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The people we are related to,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeeh your family and also other people you were living with in that homestead?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee , in the same homestead I do not understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and in your family of nine children how many managed to go to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our family we are all educated, we have attended school up to class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother can you explain to me your eating system in your family by that time you were young, I would like to know the types of foods were you frequently eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.351166416005528, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee , in the same homestead I do not understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and in your family of nine children how many managed to go to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our family we are all educated, we have attended school up to class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother can you explain to me your eating system in your family by that time you were young, I would like to know the types of foods were you frequently eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating ugali, porridge, kande, these were the foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other foods were you frequently eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5012960177839199, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our family we are all educated, we have attended school up to class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother can you explain to me your eating system in your family by that time you were young, I would like to know the types of foods were you frequently eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating ugali, porridge, kande, these were the foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other foods were you frequently eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were no other types of foods apart from rice which we were not eating frequently."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from hardly eating rice, which other type of food were you eating rarely?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5569955753154665, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating ugali, porridge, kande, these were the foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other foods were you frequently eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were no other types of foods apart from rice which we were not eating frequently."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from hardly eating rice, which other type of food were you eating rarely?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no any other food apart from ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which types of foods were eaten by special people? I mean probably the expectant mothers or only the women or were eaten only by the children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6188839725727405, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were no other types of foods apart from rice which we were not eating frequently."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from hardly eating rice, which other type of food were you eating rarely?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no any other food apart from ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which types of foods were eaten by special people? I mean probably the expectant mothers or only the women or were eaten only by the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have those foods, people eat all together because there were no bananas here they are scarce and are rarely found because they are brought in the markets once in a week but we do not have plenty probably one boils the bananas and takes with tea but they are not very many. You cannot depend on them for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was your family get money to buy foodstuff and other needs in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6876488584141561, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no any other food apart from ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which types of foods were eaten by special people? I mean probably the expectant mothers or only the women or were eaten only by the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have those foods, people eat all together because there were no bananas here they are scarce and are rarely found because they are brought in the markets once in a week but we do not have plenty probably one boils the bananas and takes with tea but they are not very many. You cannot depend on them for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was your family get money to buy foodstuff and other needs in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was not involved in business and during the drought he could sell a cow and also selling milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you earn money after selling cows and milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7640542871268401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have those foods, people eat all together because there were no bananas here they are scarce and are rarely found because they are brought in the markets once in a week but we do not have plenty probably one boils the bananas and takes with tea but they are not very many. You cannot depend on them for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was your family get money to buy foodstuff and other needs in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was not involved in business and during the drought he could sell a cow and also selling milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you earn money after selling cows and milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes selling cows and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about farming?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8489492079187112, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was not involved in business and during the drought he could sell a cow and also selling milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you earn money after selling cows and milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes selling cows and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about farming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We would sell the cows and use the money for farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which food crops were you growing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9432768976874569, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes selling cows and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about farming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We would sell the cows and use the money for farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which food crops were you growing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We mostly planted maize,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from maize, which other crop were you growing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0480854418749521, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We would sell the cows and use the money for farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which food crops were you growing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We mostly planted maize,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from maize, which other crop were you growing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only cassava and potatoes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which types of foods were you buying?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.164539379861058, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We mostly planted maize,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from maize, which other crop were you growing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only cassava and potatoes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which types of foods were you buying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We could buy the foods if the season of maize was over. We could buy the maize and if you do not have you buy from your friend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of rice? You told me people were rarely eating the rice?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2939326442900643, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only cassava and potatoes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which types of foods were you buying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We could buy the foods if the season of maize was over. We could buy the maize and if you do not have you buy from your friend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of rice? You told me people were rarely eating the rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, people buy rice from the shops and markets, we do not grow in our place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about vegetables? How were you getting vegetables for use at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4377029381000714, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We could buy the foods if the season of maize was over. We could buy the maize and if you do not have you buy from your friend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of rice? You told me people were rarely eating the rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, people buy rice from the shops and markets, we do not grow in our place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about vegetables? How were you getting vegetables for use at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were buying vegetables at the shops, sardines, beans you will also get them at the market and probably you buy meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about food from the forest? I mean the vegetables from the forests. Which vegetables and wild fruits were you using from the forest?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5974477090000794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, people buy rice from the shops and markets, we do not grow in our place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about vegetables? How were you getting vegetables for use at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were buying vegetables at the shops, sardines, beans you will also get them at the market and probably you buy meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about food from the forest? I mean the vegetables from the forests. Which vegetables and wild fruits were you using from the forest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is the bitter lettuce, sweet potatoes leaves and another one called kungujuru those are the ones from the forest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, by the time you were young who was concerned with decision making in your family, I mean decision such as you have cultivated and decide that you use that farm produce at home or you sell that farm produce so that you can get money, who was making such decision?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7749418988889771, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were buying vegetables at the shops, sardines, beans you will also get them at the market and probably you buy meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about food from the forest? I mean the vegetables from the forests. Which vegetables and wild fruits were you using from the forest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is the bitter lettuce, sweet potatoes leaves and another one called kungujuru those are the ones from the forest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, by the time you were young who was concerned with decision making in your family, I mean decision such as you have cultivated and decide that you use that farm produce at home or you sell that farm produce so that you can get money, who was making such decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was coming up with the final decision?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9721576654321968, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is the bitter lettuce, sweet potatoes leaves and another one called kungujuru those are the ones from the forest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, by the time you were young who was concerned with decision making in your family, I mean decision such as you have cultivated and decide that you use that farm produce at home or you sell that farm produce so that you can get money, who was making such decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was coming up with the final decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father and mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was making the final decision that this should happen?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.191286294924663, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was coming up with the final decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father and mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was making the final decision that this should happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was more concerned with buying of food at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.434762549916292, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father and mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was making the final decision that this should happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was more concerned with buying of food at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father and if he did not buy he will give my mother money to buy food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about on your side as children? Were you consulted in decision making?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.705291722129213, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was more concerned with buying of food at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father and if he did not buy he will give my mother money to buy food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about on your side as children? Were you consulted in decision making?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, Let us continue with our conversation. I would like to know by that time you were young, what was the main indicator that a person either a girl or a boy has matured?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0058796912546812, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father and if he did not buy he will give my mother money to buy food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about on your side as children? Were you consulted in decision making?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, Let us continue with our conversation. I would like to know by that time you were young, what was the main indicator that a person either a girl or a boy has matured?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You have said things like?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Things that indicates that a person is fully grown or he graduate from being a boy to a man or a girl to a lady?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3398663236163126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, Let us continue with our conversation. I would like to know by that time you were young, what was the main indicator that a person either a girl or a boy has matured?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You have said things like?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Things that indicates that a person is fully grown or he graduate from being a boy to a man or a girl to a lady?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were seen that they have become big."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you know?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.710962581795903, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You have said things like?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Things that indicates that a person is fully grown or he graduate from being a boy to a man or a girl to a lady?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were seen that they have become big."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If it was the woman you could see that her breast has become big and she has now become a mature person and for the boy you will see changes in his body structure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the cultural activities such as the ceremonies? Was this one of the ways of showing that one has become mature person?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.123291757551003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were seen that they have become big."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If it was the woman you could see that her breast has become big and she has now become a mature person and for the boy you will see changes in his body structure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the cultural activities such as the ceremonies? Was this one of the ways of showing that one has become mature person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were danced the traditional dances."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At what age was she danced for or what was indicating that she should be danced for?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.581435286167781, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If it was the woman you could see that her breast has become big and she has now become a mature person and for the boy you will see changes in his body structure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the cultural activities such as the ceremonies? Was this one of the ways of showing that one has become mature person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were danced the traditional dances."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At what age was she danced for or what was indicating that she should be danced for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will see her breast has become big and also when she starts having her menstruation period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about men?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.090483651297534, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were danced the traditional dances."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At what age was she danced for or what was indicating that she should be danced for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will see her breast has become big and also when she starts having her menstruation period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the men it you will see that he has become big and he has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you how was it when you knew that you were a grown up?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.433870723663927, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will see her breast has become big and also when she starts having her menstruation period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the men it you will see that he has become big and he has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you how was it when you knew that you were a grown up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "By the time you grow and start your menstruation period the elders will decide how your initiation will be according to your traditions others stay indoors for seven or eight days or even two weeks and others are danced for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was it on your side?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.70430080407103, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the men it you will see that he has become big and he has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you how was it when you knew that you were a grown up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "By the time you grow and start your menstruation period the elders will decide how your initiation will be according to your traditions others stay indoors for seven or eight days or even two weeks and others are danced for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was it on your side?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I stayed indoors for seven days then danced for and released."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was it after you were released?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.0047786711900333, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "By the time you grow and start your menstruation period the elders will decide how your initiation will be according to your traditions others stay indoors for seven or eight days or even two weeks and others are danced for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was it on your side?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I stayed indoors for seven days then danced for and released."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was it after you were released?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just stayed because there was no much in education after completing standard seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, You told me you were living in Misima before you came to Kibaya isn’t it? So when was it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1164207457667035, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I stayed indoors for seven days then danced for and released."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was it after you were released?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just stayed because there was no much in education after completing standard seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, You told me you were living in Misima before you came to Kibaya isn’t it? So when was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I came here in the year ninety (1990)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you to come to Kibaya?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.240467495296337, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just stayed because there was no much in education after completing standard seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, You told me you were living in Misima before you came to Kibaya isn’t it? So when was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I came here in the year ninety (1990)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you to come to Kibaya?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are married?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.37829721699593, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I came here in the year ninety (1990)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you to come to Kibaya?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are married?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "eeee"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who do you live with in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.42033024110658884, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are married?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "eeee"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who do you live with in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I live with Matumbo in my household."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Whom do you live with?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5189262235883813, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I live with Matumbo in my household."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Whom do you live with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Matumbo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Matumbo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is Matumbo?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5765846928759791, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Matumbo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Matumbo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is Matumbo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father of my children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is he? Is he your husband?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6406496587510879, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is Matumbo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father of my children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is he? Is he your husband?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is my husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And don't you live with someone else probably he is your relative a child of your cousin?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7118329541678754, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father of my children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is he? Is he your husband?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is my husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And don't you live with someone else probably he is your relative a child of your cousin?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many children do you have?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7909255046309727, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is my husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And don't you live with someone else probably he is your relative a child of your cousin?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many children do you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have nine children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, which activity do you carry out in your household so that you can earn a living? Which activity do you depend on?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8788061162566363, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many children do you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have nine children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, which activity do you carry out in your household so that you can earn a living? Which activity do you depend on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We mostly depend on the cows and my husband has his own business in Misima."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of business does your husband have?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9764512402851514, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have nine children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, which activity do you carry out in your household so that you can earn a living? Which activity do you depend on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We mostly depend on the cows and my husband has his own business in Misima."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of business does your husband have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He has his own machines."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the machines used for?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0849458225390571, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We mostly depend on the cows and my husband has his own business in Misima."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of business does your husband have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He has his own machines."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the machines used for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are used for Milling and then looking after the animals. That is what he mainly depends on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother you have told me that what you depend on now is mainly the animal."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.20549535837673, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He has his own machines."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the machines used for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are used for Milling and then looking after the animals. That is what he mainly depends on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother you have told me that what you depend on now is mainly the animal."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the father's business .This is what you depend on so that you can earn a living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22832817597414443, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are used for Milling and then looking after the animals. That is what he mainly depends on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother you have told me that what you depend on now is mainly the animal."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the father's business .This is what you depend on so that you can earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeeh, in the past the cows were many and we depended on them by milking and selling the milk and this helped us and my husband did his own business. But in these days the cows have really died because of hunger. There are no cows they have migrated so we now depend on my husband business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of growing crops?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2536979733046049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the father's business .This is what you depend on so that you can earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeeh, in the past the cows were many and we depended on them by milking and selling the milk and this helped us and my husband did his own business. But in these days the cows have really died because of hunger. There are no cows they have migrated so we now depend on my husband business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of growing crops?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grow crops, and we have harvested food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is not a main activity which you depend on?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28188663700511657, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeeh, in the past the cows were many and we depended on them by milking and selling the milk and this helped us and my husband did his own business. But in these days the cows have really died because of hunger. There are no cows they have migrated so we now depend on my husband business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of growing crops?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grow crops, and we have harvested food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is not a main activity which you depend on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we were not depending on it. We were growing food for consumption but not food for business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, if you compare the way you were living in the past and nowadays do you see any difference?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3132073744501295, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grow crops, and we have harvested food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is not a main activity which you depend on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we were not depending on it. We were growing food for consumption but not food for business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, if you compare the way you were living in the past and nowadays do you see any difference?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are changes because I now have my own family but in the past I was a child so I depend on my parents but nowadays I have my family who depend on me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the changes in the way of life I mean the activities which you currently carry out so that you can earn a living? Is there any difference in the family you were living in the past and the family you are now living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34800819383347725, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we were not depending on it. We were growing food for consumption but not food for business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, if you compare the way you were living in the past and nowadays do you see any difference?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are changes because I now have my own family but in the past I was a child so I depend on my parents but nowadays I have my family who depend on me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the changes in the way of life I mean the activities which you currently carry out so that you can earn a living? Is there any difference in the family you were living in the past and the family you are now living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the duties are the same. There are extra duties because I do not trade, its only working in the farm during the planting season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the fact that in these days you mainly depend on keeping animals and business and in the past you depend on animal rearing and farming so what attract all these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38667577092608585, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are changes because I now have my own family but in the past I was a child so I depend on my parents but nowadays I have my family who depend on me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the changes in the way of life I mean the activities which you currently carry out so that you can earn a living? Is there any difference in the family you were living in the past and the family you are now living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the duties are the same. There are extra duties because I do not trade, its only working in the farm during the planting season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the fact that in these days you mainly depend on keeping animals and business and in the past you depend on animal rearing and farming so what attract all these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, The way of life has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has it changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4296397454734287, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the duties are the same. There are extra duties because I do not trade, its only working in the farm during the planting season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the fact that in these days you mainly depend on keeping animals and business and in the past you depend on animal rearing and farming so what attract all these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, The way of life has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has it changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we used to sell cows and use the money to buy seeds and also to pay labour when it is planting and weeding seasons we also use the money to pay school fees and whatever children need in school and it was enough but these days there are no cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean when you were in your father’s house or?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5304194388560848, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we used to sell cows and use the money to buy seeds and also to pay labour when it is planting and weeding seasons we also use the money to pay school fees and whatever children need in school and it was enough but these days there are no cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean when you were in your father’s house or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No when I am already married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cows were many and they were selling the cows and children were going to school, and were fully educated but in these days the cows have reduced in numbers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in your father's homes How was it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5893549320623164, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No when I am already married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cows were many and they were selling the cows and children were going to school, and were fully educated but in these days the cows have reduced in numbers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in your father's homes How was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father's life was a bit better but there are no cows now they have died and everyone has remained with a few cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I would like you to differentiate your father's way of life and how you live now with your husband."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6548388134025738, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cows were many and they were selling the cows and children were going to school, and were fully educated but in these days the cows have reduced in numbers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in your father's homes How was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father's life was a bit better but there are no cows now they have died and everyone has remained with a few cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I would like you to differentiate your father's way of life and how you live now with your husband."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This one is a bit better it is not like the one in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying its good?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7275986815584153, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father's life was a bit better but there are no cows now they have died and everyone has remained with a few cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I would like you to differentiate your father's way of life and how you live now with your husband."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This one is a bit better it is not like the one in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying its good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good because in the past people were depending on hard jobs so that they can get money but in these days if you have money you can employ people to dig and plant at the farm by use of the tractors and not hands nowadays they no longer go to the farm to plant we only go to weed and if you have money you can as well employ people and pay them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how has this new way of life affected you and your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8084429795093504, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This one is a bit better it is not like the one in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying its good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good because in the past people were depending on hard jobs so that they can get money but in these days if you have money you can employ people to dig and plant at the farm by use of the tractors and not hands nowadays they no longer go to the farm to plant we only go to weed and if you have money you can as well employ people and pay them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how has this new way of life affected you and your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now I have seen this way of life is good and also children are not suffering."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And nowadays what are the responsibilities of men and women in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8982699772326115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good because in the past people were depending on hard jobs so that they can get money but in these days if you have money you can employ people to dig and plant at the farm by use of the tractors and not hands nowadays they no longer go to the farm to plant we only go to weed and if you have money you can as well employ people and pay them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how has this new way of life affected you and your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now I have seen this way of life is good and also children are not suffering."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And nowadays what are the responsibilities of men and women in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are men's responsibilities and duties in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9980777524806794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now I have seen this way of life is good and also children are not suffering."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And nowadays what are the responsibilities of men and women in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are men's responsibilities and duties in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is to work and earn some money if the child is going to school he is able to cater for that and, if we want our farm to be weeded he is also responsible for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the responsibilities a woman?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1089752805340882, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are men's responsibilities and duties in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is to work and earn some money if the child is going to school he is able to cater for that and, if we want our farm to be weeded he is also responsible for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the responsibilities a woman?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just sit. We do not have any responsibility."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2321947561489868, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is to work and earn some money if the child is going to school he is able to cater for that and, if we want our farm to be weeded he is also responsible for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the responsibilities a woman?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just sit. We do not have any responsibility."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do the household chores"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which are these duties?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3691052846099854, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just sit. We do not have any responsibility."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do the household chores"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which are these duties?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just waking up in the morning, sweeping, washing utensils, cooking for the children who are going to school and the other activities we do if there is work in farm we go and do it and if you get someone to help you cook for him and staying with the children. My husband is the one who is responsible for the school fees and also to provide food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the responsibilities of boys and girls in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5212280940110947, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do the household chores"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which are these duties?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just waking up in the morning, sweeping, washing utensils, cooking for the children who are going to school and the other activities we do if there is work in farm we go and do it and if you get someone to help you cook for him and staying with the children. My husband is the one who is responsible for the school fees and also to provide food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the responsibilities of boys and girls in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are helping their father to look after the cows and also help in the business and others are in school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the girls?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6902534377901053, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just waking up in the morning, sweeping, washing utensils, cooking for the children who are going to school and the other activities we do if there is work in farm we go and do it and if you get someone to help you cook for him and staying with the children. My husband is the one who is responsible for the school fees and also to provide food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the responsibilities of boys and girls in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are helping their father to look after the cows and also help in the business and others are in school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the girls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The young girls are in school and when they come back home they help the mother in household chores."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any difference in the duties of boys and girls of nowadays as compared to those days when you were growing together with your siblings?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8780593753223391, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are helping their father to look after the cows and also help in the business and others are in school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the girls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The young girls are in school and when they come back home they help the mother in household chores."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any difference in the duties of boys and girls of nowadays as compared to those days when you were growing together with your siblings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are differences."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are they?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9756215281359324, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The young girls are in school and when they come back home they help the mother in household chores."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any difference in the duties of boys and girls of nowadays as compared to those days when you were growing together with your siblings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are differences."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays children are going to school and after school they find you have already bought firewood and water even if he does not go to school he does not go to fetch firewood, that is the difference of today's life and in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there are some challenges which are affecting the children in the changes which have taken place?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.084023920151036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are differences."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays children are going to school and after school they find you have already bought firewood and water even if he does not go to school he does not go to fetch firewood, that is the difference of today's life and in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there are some challenges which are affecting the children in the changes which have taken place?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There isn't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There isn't? What about benefits?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.20447102239004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays children are going to school and after school they find you have already bought firewood and water even if he does not go to school he does not go to fetch firewood, that is the difference of today's life and in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there are some challenges which are affecting the children in the changes which have taken place?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There isn't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There isn't? What about benefits?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are benefits. If he has not gone for water he will do another work. He will clean the house, and also she will prepare food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Mother when were here February this year we saw that most of the people in this community, change the way they prepare food, and they have stopped eating the traditional food they are now eating foreign foods which they emulate from other people for example Maasai community are now eating fish, meat, chicken and other foods such as chips enriched with eggs."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3383011359889332, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There isn't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There isn't? What about benefits?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are benefits. If he has not gone for water he will do another work. He will clean the house, and also she will prepare food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Mother when were here February this year we saw that most of the people in this community, change the way they prepare food, and they have stopped eating the traditional food they are now eating foreign foods which they emulate from other people for example Maasai community are now eating fish, meat, chicken and other foods such as chips enriched with eggs."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they now eat the food you mentioned."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in the past they did not use to eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4870012622099258, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are benefits. If he has not gone for water he will do another work. He will clean the house, and also she will prepare food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Mother when were here February this year we saw that most of the people in this community, change the way they prepare food, and they have stopped eating the traditional food they are now eating foreign foods which they emulate from other people for example Maasai community are now eating fish, meat, chicken and other foods such as chips enriched with eggs."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they now eat the food you mentioned."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in the past they did not use to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were taking porridge and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the preparation of food has changed. Are the people frying or boiling?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6522236246776953, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they now eat the food you mentioned."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in the past they did not use to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were taking porridge and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the preparation of food has changed. Are the people frying or boiling?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are frying food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are now frying? My question is what are the changes you have seen as a result of the way people eat nowadays which is caused by the type of food they eat and also how the food is prepared?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0397822526885125, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are frying food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are now frying? My question is what are the changes you have seen as a result of the way people eat nowadays which is caused by the type of food they eat and also how the food is prepared?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changes are nowadays you can buy bananas and fry them and it becomes a full meal unlike in the past where you boil bananas and eat them together with porridge or tea as breakfast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other change is nowadays when vegetables and other food is prepared; she fry them and eat unlike in the past where they used to boil and add salt and eat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by frying, If you say fry, how does she fry?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.2664247252094585, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changes are nowadays you can buy bananas and fry them and it becomes a full meal unlike in the past where you boil bananas and eat them together with porridge or tea as breakfast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other change is nowadays when vegetables and other food is prepared; she fry them and eat unlike in the past where they used to boil and add salt and eat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by frying, If you say fry, how does she fry?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She puts oil in a pan then she fry onions and tomatoes and other ingredient together with vegetables and salt but in the past they used to boil and add salt only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of oil do you use?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.29602747245495387, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other change is nowadays when vegetables and other food is prepared; she fry them and eat unlike in the past where they used to boil and add salt and eat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by frying, If you say fry, how does she fry?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She puts oil in a pan then she fry onions and tomatoes and other ingredient together with vegetables and salt but in the past they used to boil and add salt only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of oil do you use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Korie but we changed and started buying kimbo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay .What about men way of eating? How has it changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3289194138388376, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She puts oil in a pan then she fry onions and tomatoes and other ingredient together with vegetables and salt but in the past they used to boil and add salt only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of oil do you use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Korie but we changed and started buying kimbo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay .What about men way of eating? How has it changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The food which we cook here is just the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Kibaya community? How was the men's way of eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3654660153764862, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Korie but we changed and started buying kimbo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay .What about men way of eating? How has it changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The food which we cook here is just the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Kibaya community? How was the men's way of eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Kibaya, The father eats the same food as children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know what brought these changes?."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.406073350418318, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The food which we cook here is just the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Kibaya community? How was the men's way of eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Kibaya, The father eats the same food as children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know what brought these changes?."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know whether it is the education that makes people to change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from education, what else has made people change what they eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.45119261157590884, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Kibaya, The father eats the same food as children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know what brought these changes?."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know whether it is the education that makes people to change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from education, what else has made people change what they eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know, because in the past people were suffering and in these days they are progressing well, you will now find that people have changed the way they used to prepare food and do another way or prepare food which is not common in this village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else has made the new way come into the village? That is what I would like to know."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.501325123973232, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know whether it is the education that makes people to change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from education, what else has made people change what they eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know, because in the past people were suffering and in these days they are progressing well, you will now find that people have changed the way they used to prepare food and do another way or prepare food which is not common in this village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else has made the new way come into the village? That is what I would like to know."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know. Maybe it is the people who have been educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Earlier you told me about development? What do you mean by development?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5570279155258133, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know, because in the past people were suffering and in these days they are progressing well, you will now find that people have changed the way they used to prepare food and do another way or prepare food which is not common in this village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else has made the new way come into the village? That is what I would like to know."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know. Maybe it is the people who have been educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Earlier you told me about development? What do you mean by development?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the people understanding what to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did this understanding come to people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6189199061397925, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know. Maybe it is the people who have been educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Earlier you told me about development? What do you mean by development?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the people understanding what to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did this understanding come to people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know may be changes in the way of life. In the past people were eating ugali but in these days a person would buy his rice and cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about interacting with other tribes? Other tribes have come to live here isn’t the reasons?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6876887845997695, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the people understanding what to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did this understanding come to people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know may be changes in the way of life. In the past people were eating ugali but in these days a person would buy his rice and cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about interacting with other tribes? Other tribes have come to live here isn’t the reasons?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true that it has changed. The visitors have now changed our behaviour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have they changed your behaviour?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7640986495552994, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know may be changes in the way of life. In the past people were eating ugali but in these days a person would buy his rice and cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about interacting with other tribes? Other tribes have come to live here isn’t the reasons?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true that it has changed. The visitors have now changed our behaviour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have they changed your behaviour?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we have imitated our visitors’ behaviours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say that you have imitated their behaviour, which behaviour have you imitated from them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8489984995058881, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true that it has changed. The visitors have now changed our behaviour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have they changed your behaviour?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we have imitated our visitors’ behaviours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say that you have imitated their behaviour, which behaviour have you imitated from them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be changing the food because we did not know that the bananas can be eaten as a full meal in the past but nowadays we know so these are new things to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the issue of the children going to school? Do you think this is a reason of change in the way of eating in your community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9433316661176534, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we have imitated our visitors’ behaviours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say that you have imitated their behaviour, which behaviour have you imitated from them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be changing the food because we did not know that the bananas can be eaten as a full meal in the past but nowadays we know so these are new things to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the issue of the children going to school? Do you think this is a reason of change in the way of eating in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When a child goes to school he come across so many things so if he find something new of course he/she will brings them at home and try to explain how they were prepared, that is why I said being educated changes life to be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother. What about the availability of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0481462956862815, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be changing the food because we did not know that the bananas can be eaten as a full meal in the past but nowadays we know so these are new things to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the issue of the children going to school? Do you think this is a reason of change in the way of eating in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When a child goes to school he come across so many things so if he find something new of course he/she will brings them at home and try to explain how they were prepared, that is why I said being educated changes life to be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother. What about the availability of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know whether it is changing because when the children go they come back when they have already changed their way of life from the past. They come with what they have seen there. So when they bring it you find that you have changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the availability of food? Do you think this is one of the reasons that contribute to the changes of the food people eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1646069952069793, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When a child goes to school he come across so many things so if he find something new of course he/she will brings them at home and try to explain how they were prepared, that is why I said being educated changes life to be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother. What about the availability of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know whether it is changing because when the children go they come back when they have already changed their way of life from the past. They come with what they have seen there. So when they bring it you find that you have changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the availability of food? Do you think this is one of the reasons that contribute to the changes of the food people eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is also the cause if there is no food at home it means you will go and buy food in the shop or market the food that is available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the issue of food discrimination? Like Kididio (porridge prepared as relish). If one takes kididio is termed to be poor. Do you think this is one of the reasons?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4377864138357768, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is also the cause if there is no food at home it means you will go and buy food in the shop or market the food that is available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the issue of food discrimination? Like Kididio (porridge prepared as relish). If one takes kididio is termed to be poor. Do you think this is one of the reasons?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. It can be the reason."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because a person can buy food which is available at the shop and prepare for the children to eat but it is not what she/he wishes her family to have but it is because that is what is available and also that is what he/she can afford."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, we were talking about food discrimination such that if a person is seen eating a particular type of food is laughed at. Do you think this is a reason which has made the people to change the way of eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5975404598175298, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. It can be the reason."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because a person can buy food which is available at the shop and prepare for the children to eat but it is not what she/he wishes her family to have but it is because that is what is available and also that is what he/she can afford."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, we were talking about food discrimination such that if a person is seen eating a particular type of food is laughed at. Do you think this is a reason which has made the people to change the way of eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it also contributes, you can eat that food because you say that these types of foods should not be eaten by that time and after you see that it is bad you change and prepare another food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes you know that this one is bad? Why does this situation come across and which types of foods don't you use?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.775044955352811, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because a person can buy food which is available at the shop and prepare for the children to eat but it is not what she/he wishes her family to have but it is because that is what is available and also that is what he/she can afford."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, we were talking about food discrimination such that if a person is seen eating a particular type of food is laughed at. Do you think this is a reason which has made the people to change the way of eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it also contributes, you can eat that food because you say that these types of foods should not be eaten by that time and after you see that it is bad you change and prepare another food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes you know that this one is bad? Why does this situation come across and which types of foods don't you use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For example, others take the fermented porridge nowadays most of the people have stopped taking it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying fermented porridge?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9722721726142343, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it also contributes, you can eat that food because you say that these types of foods should not be eaten by that time and after you see that it is bad you change and prepare another food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes you know that this one is bad? Why does this situation come across and which types of foods don't you use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For example, others take the fermented porridge nowadays most of the people have stopped taking it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying fermented porridge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past people were using a mortar and pestle (kinu na mchi) to grind, so we used pound a little bit then you soak for some days then you grind again until it becomes a flour so you us that floor to cook porridge with, you can even use the flour to cook ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the reason that made them stop doing that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.080302414015816, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For example, others take the fermented porridge nowadays most of the people have stopped taking it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying fermented porridge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past people were using a mortar and pestle (kinu na mchi) to grind, so we used pound a little bit then you soak for some days then you grind again until it becomes a flour so you us that floor to cook porridge with, you can even use the flour to cook ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the reason that made them stop doing that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be because of development so nowadays they now take maize to posho mill to be milled so they no longer grind by use of the hands."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For example if a person cooks the fermented porridge, how will you perceive that person?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:255", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2003360155731289, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past people were using a mortar and pestle (kinu na mchi) to grind, so we used pound a little bit then you soak for some days then you grind again until it becomes a flour so you us that floor to cook porridge with, you can even use the flour to cook ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the reason that made them stop doing that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be because of development so nowadays they now take maize to posho mill to be milled so they no longer grind by use of the hands."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For example if a person cooks the fermented porridge, how will you perceive that person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We will see that he has done something of the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the other community members how will they take it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:257", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3337066839701432, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be because of development so nowadays they now take maize to posho mill to be milled so they no longer grind by use of the hands."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For example if a person cooks the fermented porridge, how will you perceive that person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We will see that he has done something of the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the other community members how will they take it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What will they say if they see that person?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4818963155223814, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We will see that he has done something of the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the other community members how will they take it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What will they say if they see that person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course they will comment on that because the issue of fermenting porridge is outdated that is why you cannot see the people fermenting and grounding by use mortar and pestle has reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the easiness of cooking food don’t you think it is a reason that makes you eat what you eat meaning if you want to cook kande, it uses a lot of firewood so you decide to change probably to cook ugali or porridge do you think this could be a reason which is making you to change what you eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:261", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.6465514616915349, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What will they say if they see that person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course they will comment on that because the issue of fermenting porridge is outdated that is why you cannot see the people fermenting and grounding by use mortar and pestle has reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the easiness of cooking food don’t you think it is a reason that makes you eat what you eat meaning if you want to cook kande, it uses a lot of firewood so you decide to change probably to cook ugali or porridge do you think this could be a reason which is making you to change what you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is a reason, you can say that you should cook kande and you will end up cooking ugali and sardines even if there is a little firewood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason do you think can cause that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:263", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7183905129905942, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course they will comment on that because the issue of fermenting porridge is outdated that is why you cannot see the people fermenting and grounding by use mortar and pestle has reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the easiness of cooking food don’t you think it is a reason that makes you eat what you eat meaning if you want to cook kande, it uses a lot of firewood so you decide to change probably to cook ugali or porridge do you think this could be a reason which is making you to change what you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is a reason, you can say that you should cook kande and you will end up cooking ugali and sardines even if there is a little firewood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason do you think can cause that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other reason is when you are cooking kande you need to be there to add some water so it keeps you in one place so you do not do other works."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother you have mentioned very many reasons which contribute to changes in the way of eating, you said availability of food, children going to school, interaction of tribes, education, the simplicity and easiness of cooking food and also availability of the firewood, in all these reasons, which one do you think is the major reason for the changes in the food system?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:265", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7982116811006602, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is a reason, you can say that you should cook kande and you will end up cooking ugali and sardines even if there is a little firewood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason do you think can cause that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other reason is when you are cooking kande you need to be there to add some water so it keeps you in one place so you do not do other works."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother you have mentioned very many reasons which contribute to changes in the way of eating, you said availability of food, children going to school, interaction of tribes, education, the simplicity and easiness of cooking food and also availability of the firewood, in all these reasons, which one do you think is the major reason for the changes in the food system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is the availability of food because most of the time you are expected to eat ugali and you don’t flour in the house so you will go to the shop and buy rice cook and eat with your children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the availability of the food, what is the second reason between education, interaction of the tribes, children going to school, the simplicity and easiness of coking food and availability of firewood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:269", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9854465198773582, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is the availability of food because most of the time you are expected to eat ugali and you don’t flour in the house so you will go to the shop and buy rice cook and eat with your children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the availability of the food, what is the second reason between education, interaction of the tribes, children going to school, the simplicity and easiness of coking food and availability of firewood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I only see it is development has made the people change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Development?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying development?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:271", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.094940577641509, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I only see it is development has made the people change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Development?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying development?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean those who are educated they have developed and somehow they no longer suffer and if they suffer it is because they do not have money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is the third reason? We are talking about the tribe's interaction, children going to school, easiness of cooking the food and availability of firewood? Which one do you think is the third reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:273", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.216600641823899, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying development?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean those who are educated they have developed and somehow they no longer suffer and if they suffer it is because they do not have money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is the third reason? We are talking about the tribe's interaction, children going to school, easiness of cooking the food and availability of firewood? Which one do you think is the third reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reason?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is important and it has caused the changes to occur?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:275", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3517784909154433, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean those who are educated they have developed and somehow they no longer suffer and if they suffer it is because they do not have money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is the third reason? We are talking about the tribe's interaction, children going to school, easiness of cooking the food and availability of firewood? Which one do you think is the third reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reason?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is important and it has caused the changes to occur?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Interaction with tribes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying interaction of tribes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:277", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3908649899060481, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reason?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is important and it has caused the changes to occur?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Interaction with tribes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying interaction of tribes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because other tribes have come and they have changed our behaviour some of us did not know if bananas can be prepared and consumed as full meal so other tribes which came here had enlighten us cause we were asking ourselves why are they buying many bananas every day and we were concerned where they were taking them so we discover they were cooking them because it is a good food so even us we are now buying and cooking because it is food and when the children eat bananas they are satisfied ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which one do you think is the fourth reason which has caused the changes between the children going to school, easiness in cooking the food together with the usage of the firewood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43429443322894234, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Interaction with tribes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying interaction of tribes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because other tribes have come and they have changed our behaviour some of us did not know if bananas can be prepared and consumed as full meal so other tribes which came here had enlighten us cause we were asking ourselves why are they buying many bananas every day and we were concerned where they were taking them so we discover they were cooking them because it is a good food so even us we are now buying and cooking because it is food and when the children eat bananas they are satisfied ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which one do you think is the fourth reason which has caused the changes between the children going to school, easiness in cooking the food together with the usage of the firewood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now availability and usage of the firewood is contributing. We used to get firewood in a short while but in these days there is no firewood in fact the supply of firewood is limited so you now change to cook simple food which you can use few firewood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which is the last reason which has caused the changes in the way of eating, between children going to school and easiness of cooking that food which one do you think is the final and least cause of the change in what people eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:281", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4825493702543804, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because other tribes have come and they have changed our behaviour some of us did not know if bananas can be prepared and consumed as full meal so other tribes which came here had enlighten us cause we were asking ourselves why are they buying many bananas every day and we were concerned where they were taking them so we discover they were cooking them because it is a good food so even us we are now buying and cooking because it is food and when the children eat bananas they are satisfied ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which one do you think is the fourth reason which has caused the changes between the children going to school, easiness in cooking the food together with the usage of the firewood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now availability and usage of the firewood is contributing. We used to get firewood in a short while but in these days there is no firewood in fact the supply of firewood is limited so you now change to cook simple food which you can use few firewood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which is the last reason which has caused the changes in the way of eating, between children going to school and easiness of cooking that food which one do you think is the final and least cause of the change in what people eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think children going to school because when they come back from school they come with the new way of preparing food so they teach us also"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. I am thankful for your good answers. We will continue with our conversation. Mother you have mentioned very many things which are causing changes in the food we eat, I would like to know if these changes have affected you and your family in general?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:283", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5361659669493115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now availability and usage of the firewood is contributing. We used to get firewood in a short while but in these days there is no firewood in fact the supply of firewood is limited so you now change to cook simple food which you can use few firewood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which is the last reason which has caused the changes in the way of eating, between children going to school and easiness of cooking that food which one do you think is the final and least cause of the change in what people eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think children going to school because when they come back from school they come with the new way of preparing food so they teach us also"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. I am thankful for your good answers. We will continue with our conversation. Mother you have mentioned very many things which are causing changes in the food we eat, I would like to know if these changes have affected you and your family in general?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The changes have not badly affected us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what have you gained from these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:285", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5957399632770127, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think children going to school because when they come back from school they come with the new way of preparing food so they teach us also"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. I am thankful for your good answers. We will continue with our conversation. Mother you have mentioned very many things which are causing changes in the food we eat, I would like to know if these changes have affected you and your family in general?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The changes have not badly affected us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what have you gained from these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have gained a lot for example now we know how to prepare bananas and take with tea or porridge and when they eat that for breakfast they are satisfied so they will eat again the evening unlike before we had to prepare breakfast lunch and dinner so it is even cheaper"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, mother I would like us to talk about the issue of milk."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:287", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6619332925300141, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The changes have not badly affected us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what have you gained from these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have gained a lot for example now we know how to prepare bananas and take with tea or porridge and when they eat that for breakfast they are satisfied so they will eat again the evening unlike before we had to prepare breakfast lunch and dinner so it is even cheaper"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, mother I would like us to talk about the issue of milk."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk to you and to your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:289", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.73548143614446, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have gained a lot for example now we know how to prepare bananas and take with tea or porridge and when they eat that for breakfast they are satisfied so they will eat again the evening unlike before we had to prepare breakfast lunch and dinner so it is even cheaper"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, mother I would like us to talk about the issue of milk."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk to you and to your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is food and also business because you can sell milk and earn money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say that milk is food. How does it help?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:291", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8172015957160667, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk to you and to your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is food and also business because you can sell milk and earn money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say that milk is food. How does it help?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you prepare tea with milk in the morning it is heavy and if the children come from school they take it and they are satisfied until in the evening and also if you boil milk and give them they will not be hungry for some time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the major importance of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:293", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9080017730178518, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is food and also business because you can sell milk and earn money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say that milk is food. How does it help?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you prepare tea with milk in the morning it is heavy and if the children come from school they take it and they are satisfied until in the evening and also if you boil milk and give them they will not be hungry for some time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the major importance of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk helps in the body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What does it help in the body?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:295", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0088908589087242, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you prepare tea with milk in the morning it is heavy and if the children come from school they take it and they are satisfied until in the evening and also if you boil milk and give them they will not be hungry for some time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the major importance of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk helps in the body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What does it help in the body?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps on the side of the blood and also it has vitamins and also it a source of income because if milk is a lot and you are able to sell you will gain some money and use the money to buy flour, soap and also clothes so milk helps"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how is the milk important in your community, or in your culture or in your tribes? How is the milk important?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:297", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1209898432319159, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk helps in the body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What does it help in the body?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps on the side of the blood and also it has vitamins and also it a source of income because if milk is a lot and you are able to sell you will gain some money and use the money to buy flour, soap and also clothes so milk helps"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how is the milk important in your community, or in your culture or in your tribes? How is the milk important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our family milk is consumed as relish, milk is business and milk helps cause it is a source of income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say milk is a relish, how do you prepare it for usage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:299", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2455442702576842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps on the side of the blood and also it has vitamins and also it a source of income because if milk is a lot and you are able to sell you will gain some money and use the money to buy flour, soap and also clothes so milk helps"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how is the milk important in your community, or in your culture or in your tribes? How is the milk important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our family milk is consumed as relish, milk is business and milk helps cause it is a source of income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say milk is a relish, how do you prepare it for usage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We ferment milk and use it with ugali as relish and if you do not like fermented milk you can as well boil milk is called fresh milk and consume it with ugali as relish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would also like to know your views concerning the milk, do you think milk is very, average or less important if you compare those days and nowadays"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:301", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3839380780640935, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our family milk is consumed as relish, milk is business and milk helps cause it is a source of income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say milk is a relish, how do you prepare it for usage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We ferment milk and use it with ugali as relish and if you do not like fermented milk you can as well boil milk is called fresh milk and consume it with ugali as relish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would also like to know your views concerning the milk, do you think milk is very, average or less important if you compare those days and nowadays"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. I think it is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is very important?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:303", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5377089756267706, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We ferment milk and use it with ugali as relish and if you do not like fermented milk you can as well boil milk is called fresh milk and consume it with ugali as relish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would also like to know your views concerning the milk, do you think milk is very, average or less important if you compare those days and nowadays"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. I think it is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is very important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you compare these days and in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:305", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.7085655284741894, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. I think it is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is very important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you compare these days and in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you say that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:307", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7872950316379883, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you compare these days and in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you say that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I say that because I have seen that milk is a good business because you milk in the morning and sell and also milk in the evening and sell and the children do not have any problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:309", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8747722573755425, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you say that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I say that because I have seen that milk is a good business because you milk in the morning and sell and also milk in the evening and sell and the children do not have any problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was a lot of milk but it was not a good business like in these days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think made milk to be a business?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:311", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.971969174861714, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I say that because I have seen that milk is a good business because you milk in the morning and sell and also milk in the evening and sell and the children do not have any problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was a lot of milk but it was not a good business like in these days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think made milk to be a business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why is it that people buy too much milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:313", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0799657498463489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was a lot of milk but it was not a good business like in these days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think made milk to be a business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why is it that people buy too much milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it that people buy too much milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:315", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1999619442737208, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why is it that people buy too much milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it that people buy too much milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know may be it nourishes the body or I do not think whether it is because of drinking, I do not understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother when we were here last we heard that most of the community members say that milk availability has changed."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:317", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3332910491930232, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it that people buy too much milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know may be it nourishes the body or I do not think whether it is because of drinking, I do not understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother when we were here last we heard that most of the community members say that milk availability has changed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even the price has changed."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:319", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.481434499103359, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know may be it nourishes the body or I do not think whether it is because of drinking, I do not understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother when we were here last we heard that most of the community members say that milk availability has changed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even the price has changed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the main reasons of making the price and availability of milk to change for now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:321", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6460383323370655, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even the price has changed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the main reasons of making the price and availability of milk to change for now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has changed because of drought. There are no places to graze the cows so they do not get satisfied, visitors came and bought very big chunk of land so there are no places to graze anymore and that is why the milk has reduced. If you have cows, where will you graze them? There are no grazing lands because every land is used for farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the issue of drought, you have said this is also a reason, why is it that the drought has caused the milk to reduce for now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:323", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8289314803745171, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the main reasons of making the price and availability of milk to change for now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has changed because of drought. There are no places to graze the cows so they do not get satisfied, visitors came and bought very big chunk of land so there are no places to graze anymore and that is why the milk has reduced. If you have cows, where will you graze them? There are no grazing lands because every land is used for farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the issue of drought, you have said this is also a reason, why is it that the drought has caused the milk to reduce for now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The drought has persisted there no pastures for cows to feed on everywhere is dry that is why milk production has reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason has contributed to the changes in production of milk apart from drought and unavailability of grazing lands?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:325", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.032146089305019, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has changed because of drought. There are no places to graze the cows so they do not get satisfied, visitors came and bought very big chunk of land so there are no places to graze anymore and that is why the milk has reduced. If you have cows, where will you graze them? There are no grazing lands because every land is used for farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the issue of drought, you have said this is also a reason, why is it that the drought has caused the milk to reduce for now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The drought has persisted there no pastures for cows to feed on everywhere is dry that is why milk production has reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason has contributed to the changes in production of milk apart from drought and unavailability of grazing lands?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows have died because of drought that is why milk is scarce nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has made the cows to die nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:327", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.257940099227799, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The drought has persisted there no pastures for cows to feed on everywhere is dry that is why milk production has reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason has contributed to the changes in production of milk apart from drought and unavailability of grazing lands?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows have died because of drought that is why milk is scarce nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has made the cows to die nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason has contributed to lack of milk for now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:329", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.508822332475332, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows have died because of drought that is why milk is scarce nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has made the cows to die nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason has contributed to lack of milk for now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any other reason. The reason is that cows are not satisfied and there was drought for a long time so there is no pasture everything is dry that is why cows are dying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "According to what you have mentioned drought, lack of grazing areas and you have also mentioned for me that the cows have reduced because most of them died, I would like to know the main reason which causes reduction of milk production and also the price of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:331", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7875803694170354, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason has contributed to lack of milk for now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any other reason. The reason is that cows are not satisfied and there was drought for a long time so there is no pasture everything is dry that is why cows are dying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "According to what you have mentioned drought, lack of grazing areas and you have also mentioned for me that the cows have reduced because most of them died, I would like to know the main reason which causes reduction of milk production and also the price of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no grazing land."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is the first reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:333", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.0973115215744835, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any other reason. The reason is that cows are not satisfied and there was drought for a long time so there is no pasture everything is dry that is why cows are dying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "According to what you have mentioned drought, lack of grazing areas and you have also mentioned for me that the cows have reduced because most of them died, I would like to know the main reason which causes reduction of milk production and also the price of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no grazing land."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is the first reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The second reason which you think of?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:335", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3303461350827592, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no grazing land."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is the first reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The second reason which you think of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the previous year the cows were affected and they died."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In between the past scorching sun and the unavailability of grazing areas, which one do you think is the main reason that caused the milk to reduce?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:337", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5892734834252877, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "mmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The second reason which you think of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the previous year the cows were affected and they died."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In between the past scorching sun and the unavailability of grazing areas, which one do you think is the main reason that caused the milk to reduce?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no grazing areas because the cows were many and there are no grazing areas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in between the scorching sun and death of the cows, which one do you think is the second reason causing lack of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:339", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.8769705371392087, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the previous year the cows were affected and they died."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In between the past scorching sun and the unavailability of grazing areas, which one do you think is the main reason that caused the milk to reduce?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no grazing areas because the cows were many and there are no grazing areas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in between the scorching sun and death of the cows, which one do you think is the second reason causing lack of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the death of the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In between the scorching sun and death of the cows, which one do you think is the second reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:343", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3172475767150726, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the death of the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In between the scorching sun and death of the cows, which one do you think is the second reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The second reason is death of the cows. The first one is that there is no grazing land then the hunger and the cows were affected by the hunger that is why they were dying last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, I am grateful because of your good answers. I would also want us to briefly talk about buying of foods."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:345", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.574719529683414, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The second reason is death of the cows. The first one is that there is no grazing land then the hunger and the cows were affected by the hunger that is why they were dying last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, I am grateful because of your good answers. I would also want us to briefly talk about buying of foods."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who buys food in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:347", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8607994774260153, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, I am grateful because of your good answers. I would also want us to briefly talk about buying of foods."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who buys food in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father, my husband"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who goes to the market to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:349", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.1786660860289055, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who buys food in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father, my husband"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who goes to the market to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which foods do you buy in the markets or in other places?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:351", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.420740095587673, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father, my husband"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who goes to the market to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which foods do you buy in the markets or in other places?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy Maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And apart from maize, which other food do you buy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:353", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6897112173196365, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which foods do you buy in the markets or in other places?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy Maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And apart from maize, which other food do you buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably rice, bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who decides on the amount of money to be used to buy food at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:355", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9885680192440405, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy Maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And apart from maize, which other food do you buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably rice, bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who decides on the amount of money to be used to buy food at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father my husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The father is the one who makes the decision?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:357", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.320631132493378, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably rice, bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who decides on the amount of money to be used to buy food at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father my husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The father is the one who makes the decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else is involved in making these decisions?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:359", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6895901472148647, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father my husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The father is the one who makes the decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else is involved in making these decisions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:361", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.099544608016516, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else is involved in making these decisions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is father and mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the children involved in decision making or they are not involved?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:363", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.555049564462796, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is father and mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the children involved in decision making or they are not involved?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Decision making such as food and the minor ones they are not involved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who makes the final decision on the certain amount of money to be used to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:365", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.061166182736439, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is father and mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the children involved in decision making or they are not involved?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Decision making such as food and the minor ones they are not involved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who makes the final decision on the certain amount of money to be used to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the strategy you were using to buy food for you family both in the past when you were young and nowadays when you have your own family may be were you involved in any way?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:367", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.623517980818265, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Decision making such as food and the minor ones they are not involved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who makes the final decision on the certain amount of money to be used to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the strategy you were using to buy food for you family both in the past when you were young and nowadays when you have your own family may be were you involved in any way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were not involved, may be you will be told to take maize to the posho mill but going to buy maize we were not involved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food were you buying when you were young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:369", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.137242200909183, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the strategy you were using to buy food for you family both in the past when you were young and nowadays when you have your own family may be were you involved in any way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were not involved, may be you will be told to take maize to the posho mill but going to buy maize we were not involved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food were you buying when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:371", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.708046889899093, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were not involved, may be you will be told to take maize to the posho mill but going to buy maize we were not involved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food were you buying when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, perhaps seasonal food such us cassava you buy from your neighbour and rice we used to buy at the shop."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you compare distance between your current place to the market and in the past when you were in your fathers place to the market which one do you far?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:373", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.342274322110103, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, perhaps seasonal food such us cassava you buy from your neighbour and rice we used to buy at the shop."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you compare distance between your current place to the market and in the past when you were in your fathers place to the market which one do you far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past people used to live where the farms were and it is very far to the market because markets are in the village so it depends where one lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, we have talk about maize and cassava what about vegetables."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:375", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.824749246789003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, perhaps seasonal food such us cassava you buy from your neighbour and rice we used to buy at the shop."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you compare distance between your current place to the market and in the past when you were in your fathers place to the market which one do you far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past people used to live where the farms were and it is very far to the market because markets are in the village so it depends where one lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, we have talk about maize and cassava what about vegetables."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Vegetables are there in plenty and a bunch is Tsh 200. in the past it was Tsh 50. And most of the people grow vegetables may be if it is foodstuff which you can buy at the shop."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which foodstuff?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:377", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.249721385321115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past people used to live where the farms were and it is very far to the market because markets are in the village so it depends where one lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, we have talk about maize and cassava what about vegetables."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Vegetables are there in plenty and a bunch is Tsh 200. in the past it was Tsh 50. And most of the people grow vegetables may be if it is foodstuff which you can buy at the shop."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which foodstuff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like beans, sardines, African eggplant and tomatoes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How much were these food in the past as compared with nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:379", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.499690428134571, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Vegetables are there in plenty and a bunch is Tsh 200. in the past it was Tsh 50. And most of the people grow vegetables may be if it is foodstuff which you can buy at the shop."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which foodstuff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like beans, sardines, African eggplant and tomatoes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How much were these food in the past as compared with nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past it was cheaper with 100 shillings you will get enough vegetable for the family but nowadays is from 200 to 500 and above."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about buying of oil if you compare in the past and nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:381", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5552115868161902, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like beans, sardines, African eggplant and tomatoes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How much were these food in the past as compared with nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past it was cheaper with 100 shillings you will get enough vegetable for the family but nowadays is from 200 to 500 and above."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about buying of oil if you compare in the past and nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past it was cheaper a portion that used to be 5 shillings now we buy at 200 shillings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:383", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6169017631291002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past it was cheaper with 100 shillings you will get enough vegetable for the family but nowadays is from 200 to 500 and above."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about buying of oil if you compare in the past and nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past it was cheaper a portion that used to be 5 shillings now we buy at 200 shillings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Food was available both in the past and nowadays you can buy at the market or shops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What types of foods that is available in your market nowadays as compared to those days when you were young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:385", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.685446403476778, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past it was cheaper a portion that used to be 5 shillings now we buy at 200 shillings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Food was available both in the past and nowadays you can buy at the market or shops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What types of foods that is available in your market nowadays as compared to those days when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still the same food we used to have in the past. Bananas was there but people did not know if can be consumed as a full meal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about food that was available in the past but nowadays is not available?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:387", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7616071149741978, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Food was available both in the past and nowadays you can buy at the market or shops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What types of foods that is available in your market nowadays as compared to those days when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still the same food we used to have in the past. Bananas was there but people did not know if can be consumed as a full meal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about food that was available in the past but nowadays is not available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh it is still the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know what makes you cook the food you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:389", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8462301277491086, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still the same food we used to have in the past. Bananas was there but people did not know if can be consumed as a full meal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about food that was available in the past but nowadays is not available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh it is still the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know what makes you cook the food you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I may decide today I will cook ugali and may be beans or bitter lettuce then I will prepare for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what make you prepare that particular food or makes prepare today beans tomorrow bitter lettuce?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:391", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9402556974990095, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh it is still the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know what makes you cook the food you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I may decide today I will cook ugali and may be beans or bitter lettuce then I will prepare for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what make you prepare that particular food or makes prepare today beans tomorrow bitter lettuce?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the food is available at home, but if we do not have then and there we will ask my husband to buy for us food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from availability of food what else do you consider?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:393", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0447285527766772, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I may decide today I will cook ugali and may be beans or bitter lettuce then I will prepare for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what make you prepare that particular food or makes prepare today beans tomorrow bitter lettuce?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the food is available at home, but if we do not have then and there we will ask my husband to buy for us food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from availability of food what else do you consider?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I may decide to prepare for them a certain food like cassava mixed with beans so basically is it my decision or I may decide to cook once a day or twice it all depend on me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the other reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:397", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2897883367613299, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I may decide to prepare for them a certain food like cassava mixed with beans so basically is it my decision or I may decide to cook once a day or twice it all depend on me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the other reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be I do not have maize flour so I may decide to prepare cassava and beans instead of ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be I feel like eating a particular food so I will prepare it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the other reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:399", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4330981519570332, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be I do not have maize flour so I may decide to prepare cassava and beans instead of ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be I feel like eating a particular food so I will prepare it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the other reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So you can cook because you feel like eating that food or availability."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, you mentioned some of the reasons of eating the food you eat, one is availability of food, two is the easiness and simplicity of its preparation three is appetite so which among these is the main reason of cooking the food you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:401", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.592331279952259, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be I feel like eating a particular food so I will prepare it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the other reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So you can cook because you feel like eating that food or availability."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, you mentioned some of the reasons of eating the food you eat, one is availability of food, two is the easiness and simplicity of its preparation three is appetite so which among these is the main reason of cooking the food you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Easiness and simplicity of cooking that particular food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the second reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:403", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7692569777247322, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So you can cook because you feel like eating that food or availability."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, you mentioned some of the reasons of eating the food you eat, one is availability of food, two is the easiness and simplicity of its preparation three is appetite so which among these is the main reason of cooking the food you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Easiness and simplicity of cooking that particular food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the second reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be I feel like eating a particular food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother why availability of food is your last reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:405", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9658410863608136, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Easiness and simplicity of cooking that particular food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the second reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be I feel like eating a particular food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother why availability of food is your last reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes you have food in the house but you feel like eating another food or you cook a particular food because it is simple to prepare."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, I would like to know when you were young and nowadays you have your own family did you ever experience or heard of hunger and what did you do to overcome it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:407", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.184267873734237, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be I feel like eating a particular food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother why availability of food is your last reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes you have food in the house but you feel like eating another food or you cook a particular food because it is simple to prepare."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, I would like to know when you were young and nowadays you have your own family did you ever experience or heard of hunger and what did you do to overcome it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh when was it? Which year?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:409", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4269643041491524, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes you have food in the house but you feel like eating another food or you cook a particular food because it is simple to prepare."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, I would like to know when you were young and nowadays you have your own family did you ever experience or heard of hunger and what did you do to overcome it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh when was it? Which year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not remember the year but it happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food which was not available when there was hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:411", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6966270046101695, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh when was it? Which year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not remember the year but it happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food which was not available when there was hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our main food is ugali so there was no maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about nowadays did you experience hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:413", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.9962522273446326, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not remember the year but it happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food which was not available when there was hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our main food is ugali so there was no maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about nowadays did you experience hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, last year there was drought so people did not harvest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long did hunger last?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:415", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.218058030382925, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our main food is ugali so there was no maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about nowadays did you experience hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, last year there was drought so people did not harvest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long did hunger last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Almost one year, there are some people who harvested one sack of maize, some half sack, some did not harvest anything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the reasons for hunger when you were young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:417", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.4645089226476946, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, last year there was drought so people did not harvest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long did hunger last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Almost one year, there are some people who harvested one sack of maize, some half sack, some did not harvest anything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the reasons for hunger when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know the reasons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:419", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6272321362752162, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Almost one year, there are some people who harvested one sack of maize, some half sack, some did not harvest anything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the reasons for hunger when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know the reasons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was because of persistent dry season from April there were no rain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What measures did you use to overcome hunger when you were young living in your father’s house."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:421", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8080357069724624, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know the reasons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was because of persistent dry season from April there were no rain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What measures did you use to overcome hunger when you were young living in your father’s house."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know because my father was responsible for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about last year how did you overcome it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:423", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.008928563302736, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was because of persistent dry season from April there were no rain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What measures did you use to overcome hunger when you were young living in your father’s house."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know because my father was responsible for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about last year how did you overcome it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year my husband was providing food for us I know it was tough for him because we could not manage to sell cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How were children and also adult feeding and how many times in a day when there was hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:425", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1210317370030403, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know because my father was responsible for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about last year how did you overcome it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year my husband was providing food for us I know it was tough for him because we could not manage to sell cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How were children and also adult feeding and how many times in a day when there was hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating in the morning and in the evening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about last year?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:427", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2455908188922669, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year my husband was providing food for us I know it was tough for him because we could not manage to sell cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How were children and also adult feeding and how many times in a day when there was hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating in the morning and in the evening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was bad we were feeding once a day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what type of food were you eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:429", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3839897987691854, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating in the morning and in the evening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was bad we were feeding once a day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what type of food were you eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Porridge or ugali or bananas if you are lucky."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was your portion like was it big portion or small portion?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:431", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5377664430768727, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was bad we were feeding once a day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what type of food were you eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Porridge or ugali or bananas if you are lucky."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was your portion like was it big portion or small portion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Small portion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it in the past or last year?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:433", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7086293811965252, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Porridge or ugali or bananas if you are lucky."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was your portion like was it big portion or small portion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Small portion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it in the past or last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in the past when you were living with your parents?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:435", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8984770902183612, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Small portion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it in the past or last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in the past when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those days you were given food so I was not aware that it was small or not"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was the victim of hunger then?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:437", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.1094189891315125, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in the past when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those days you were given food so I was not aware that it was small or not"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was the victim of hunger then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think my father was the victim of hunger because he was the one providing for us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about last year who was the victim of hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:439", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12157665459056936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those days you were given food so I was not aware that it was small or not"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was the victim of hunger then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think my father was the victim of hunger because he was the one providing for us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about last year who was the victim of hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Still man of the house is a major victim of hunger because he is the one providing food for the family, the mother is just that she will be hungry the whole day until evening when the husband comes with food then she will prepare food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has hunger affected you and your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:441", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13508517176729928, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think my father was the victim of hunger because he was the one providing for us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about last year who was the victim of hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Still man of the house is a major victim of hunger because he is the one providing food for the family, the mother is just that she will be hungry the whole day until evening when the husband comes with food then she will prepare food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has hunger affected you and your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People have been affected because they were not eating enough food for their body children were really affected because they were not having enough food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who were the major victim of hunger between parents and children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:443", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1500946352969992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Still man of the house is a major victim of hunger because he is the one providing food for the family, the mother is just that she will be hungry the whole day until evening when the husband comes with food then she will prepare food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has hunger affected you and your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People have been affected because they were not eating enough food for their body children were really affected because they were not having enough food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who were the major victim of hunger between parents and children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "both of them were affected but children are at home waiting for the father to provide food and father is busy trying to work hard to provide for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What measures did you use to overcome hunger when you were young living in your father’s house and also last year?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:445", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.16677181699666577, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People have been affected because they were not eating enough food for their body children were really affected because they were not having enough food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who were the major victim of hunger between parents and children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "both of them were affected but children are at home waiting for the father to provide food and father is busy trying to work hard to provide for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What measures did you use to overcome hunger when you were young living in your father’s house and also last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really do not know how they overcome it I was young I didn’t know what is happening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, I am grateful because of your cooperation. We are almost coming to the end of our conversation but I would like us to add few questions before we conclude. I would like to know, how people in this community get to know about the issues of food and nutrition so that they can be healthy."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:447", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1853020188851842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "both of them were affected but children are at home waiting for the father to provide food and father is busy trying to work hard to provide for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What measures did you use to overcome hunger when you were young living in your father’s house and also last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really do not know how they overcome it I was young I didn’t know what is happening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, I am grateful because of your cooperation. We are almost coming to the end of our conversation but I would like us to add few questions before we conclude. I would like to know, how people in this community get to know about the issues of food and nutrition so that they can be healthy."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh we do not get that education may be if you go clinic"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, have you ever received this kind of education about health, food and nutrition, healthy eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:449", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2058911320946491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really do not know how they overcome it I was young I didn’t know what is happening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, I am grateful because of your cooperation. We are almost coming to the end of our conversation but I would like us to add few questions before we conclude. I would like to know, how people in this community get to know about the issues of food and nutrition so that they can be healthy."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh we do not get that education may be if you go clinic"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, have you ever received this kind of education about health, food and nutrition, healthy eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes through clinic sometimes they advise you to eat this and that kind of food or to give your baby healthy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this knowledge helped you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:451", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22876792454961012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh we do not get that education may be if you go clinic"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, have you ever received this kind of education about health, food and nutrition, healthy eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes through clinic sometimes they advise you to eat this and that kind of food or to give your baby healthy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this knowledge helped you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It made me change how I prepare food for my baby example nowadays I add oil in my baby’s porridge and I give my children varieties of food and also fruits something which I did not do before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the education you have received is important to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:453", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25418658283290013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes through clinic sometimes they advise you to eat this and that kind of food or to give your baby healthy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this knowledge helped you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It made me change how I prepare food for my baby example nowadays I add oil in my baby’s porridge and I give my children varieties of food and also fruits something which I did not do before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the education you have received is important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because I have changed what I used to give my children no I give them what I was advised like to give them fruit prepare variety of food and also to add oil in the porridge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you ever practice what you have been advised?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:455", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28242953648100017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It made me change how I prepare food for my baby example nowadays I add oil in my baby’s porridge and I give my children varieties of food and also fruits something which I did not do before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the education you have received is important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because I have changed what I used to give my children no I give them what I was advised like to give them fruit prepare variety of food and also to add oil in the porridge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you ever practice what you have been advised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the outcome?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:457", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.31381059609000017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because I have changed what I used to give my children no I give them what I was advised like to give them fruit prepare variety of food and also to add oil in the porridge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you ever practice what you have been advised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the outcome?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My children are well fed and they are looking healthy their skin colour is also good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the skin colour of a child who is not well fed look like?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:459", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34867844010000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the outcome?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My children are well fed and they are looking healthy their skin colour is also good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the skin colour of a child who is not well fed look like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They look different their skin are rough and the colour is not appealing so you will know there something their missing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that their missing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:461", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38742048900000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My children are well fed and they are looking healthy their skin colour is also good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the skin colour of a child who is not well fed look like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They look different their skin are rough and the colour is not appealing so you will know there something their missing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that their missing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were told to give them eggs and also boil for them milk and also rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when they eat those foods what do they get?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:463", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They look different their skin are rough and the colour is not appealing so you will know there something their missing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that their missing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were told to give them eggs and also boil for them milk and also rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when they eat those foods what do they get?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Vitamin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of vitamin do they get?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:465", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were told to give them eggs and also boil for them milk and also rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when they eat those foods what do they get?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Vitamin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of vitamin do they get?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I heard people say vitamin A, B so I do not know which is which."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think the information about food and nutrition and healthy lifestyle is important and beneficial to you and your community."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:467", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Vitamin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of vitamin do they get?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I heard people say vitamin A, B so I do not know which is which."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think the information about food and nutrition and healthy lifestyle is important and beneficial to you and your community."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you follow them you will benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, and what do you think this education about food and nutrition should be brought to you and your community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:469", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I heard people say vitamin A, B so I do not know which is which."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think the information about food and nutrition and healthy lifestyle is important and beneficial to you and your community."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you follow them you will benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, and what do you think this education about food and nutrition should be brought to you and your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You are the one who knows. All what we want is the knowledge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how should we bring it to you and the whole community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:471", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you follow them you will benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, and what do you think this education about food and nutrition should be brought to you and your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You are the one who knows. All what we want is the knowledge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how should we bring it to you and the whole community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be you just come and teach us like the way you are doing now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you want us to come to your individual houses or churches or schools or health centers or Mosques or in your groups?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:473", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You are the one who knows. All what we want is the knowledge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how should we bring it to you and the whole community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be you just come and teach us like the way you are doing now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you want us to come to your individual houses or churches or schools or health centers or Mosques or in your groups?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think in our groups all what you need is to notify us people will come and I am sure they will benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about schools, do you think if we teach your children in school the will make changes to you household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:475", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be you just come and teach us like the way you are doing now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you want us to come to your individual houses or churches or schools or health centers or Mosques or in your groups?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think in our groups all what you need is to notify us people will come and I am sure they will benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about schools, do you think if we teach your children in school the will make changes to you household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes, because they will teach us so all of us will benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about broadcasting through radio or television or through videos do you think it will reach you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:477", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think in our groups all what you need is to notify us people will come and I am sure they will benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about schools, do you think if we teach your children in school the will make changes to you household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes, because they will teach us so all of us will benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about broadcasting through radio or television or through videos do you think it will reach you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes if you have it you will get information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Mosque’s and churches do you think it will reach more people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:479", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes, because they will teach us so all of us will benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about broadcasting through radio or television or through videos do you think it will reach you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes if you have it you will get information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Mosque’s and churches do you think it will reach more people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who do you suggest should be used to distribute the information?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:481", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes if you have it you will get information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Mosque’s and churches do you think it will reach more people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who do you suggest should be used to distribute the information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be Village chairman."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about health centre?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:483", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who do you suggest should be used to distribute the information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be Village chairman."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about health centre?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is okay as long as people will be taught."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among the ones you have mentioned which methods do you think is reliable and convenient to most people in Kibaya village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:485", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be Village chairman."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about health centre?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is okay as long as people will be taught."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among the ones you have mentioned which methods do you think is reliable and convenient to most people in Kibaya village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think health centre is good and as long as they will put sign posts so people will read."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about people who cannot read?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:487", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is okay as long as people will be taught."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among the ones you have mentioned which methods do you think is reliable and convenient to most people in Kibaya village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think health centre is good and as long as they will put sign posts so people will read."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about people who cannot read?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are people who can explain to them from health centre."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the reliable method which can reach most if not all people in Kibaya village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00025:489", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think health centre is good and as long as they will put sign posts so people will read."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about people who cannot read?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are people who can explain to them from health centre."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the reliable method which can reach most if not all people in Kibaya village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think health centre and through Village chairman."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, thank you of your good answers, we have come to the end of our conversation, Thank you very much."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.849107241387465, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good afternoon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Basically we are conducting this to determine how best we can provide care for RHD patients, so our major objective is to identify local barriers and enablers of RHD prevention and care with in this place. You feel free there are no right or wrong answers and you can be frank with your opinions and share with us all you have since all data here will be confidential and we won’t have any link to your identity or any comments that you provide today, so to start with, tell me about yourself,\n\nHow old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "38"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, your qualification?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Physician."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "where, where was your training?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.943452490430516, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "38"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, your qualification?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Physician."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "where, where was your training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Makerere"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, how long have you been qualified?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.275867272136438, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Makerere"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, how long have you been qualified?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "9years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "9?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "9years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and how long have you worked in Lira regional referral Hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.52874141348493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "9years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "9?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "9years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and how long have you worked in Lira regional referral Hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "8 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "8, Okay in these 8 years, do you mind describing like the kind of patients you see, the common illnesses you come across?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.698601570538811, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "9years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and how long have you worked in Lira regional referral Hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "8 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "8, Okay in these 8 years, do you mind describing like the kind of patients you see, the common illnesses you come across?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The common illnesses are usually the, the infectious diseases, common ones are HIV related problems, malaria, then respiratory tract infections like pneumonia, TB then there are others which are related to nutrition disorders which is attributed to mal absorption disorders then I see also heart diseases especially in young children and those ones age around 20 to 40 ,then there are heart diseases also in elderly patients which are usually attributed to hypertension and then there are some other cases of heart diseases we see, which are like dilated heart disorders and then those ones in sickle cell and other heart disorders but the rheumatic heart disease cuts across up to older age groups .Then we have also apart from heart diseases we have hypertension ,diabetes, and then those ones are the commonest ones and the liver diseases especially hepatitis B, liver cirrhosis, liver cancers, and then other forms of cancers are actually now common especially non estrogen lymphomas in adults and then Burkett’s in children those are the common disorders we usually see in our environment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much, so tell me a bit about your training on RHD, have you received any specific training during school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 11.887335078376456, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "8 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "8, Okay in these 8 years, do you mind describing like the kind of patients you see, the common illnesses you come across?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The common illnesses are usually the, the infectious diseases, common ones are HIV related problems, malaria, then respiratory tract infections like pneumonia, TB then there are others which are related to nutrition disorders which is attributed to mal absorption disorders then I see also heart diseases especially in young children and those ones age around 20 to 40 ,then there are heart diseases also in elderly patients which are usually attributed to hypertension and then there are some other cases of heart diseases we see, which are like dilated heart disorders and then those ones in sickle cell and other heart disorders but the rheumatic heart disease cuts across up to older age groups .Then we have also apart from heart diseases we have hypertension ,diabetes, and then those ones are the commonest ones and the liver diseases especially hepatitis B, liver cirrhosis, liver cancers, and then other forms of cancers are actually now common especially non estrogen lymphomas in adults and then Burkett’s in children those are the common disorders we usually see in our environment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much, so tell me a bit about your training on RHD, have you received any specific training during school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me in particular I have been involved in heart disease management especially those ones who were in the 4c by then that is Mulago the ward meant for cardiac diseases, so I was involved in managing of these patients and mostly doing echocardiographs for those who cannot afford doing them from other places and then those managing those ones who were admitted with heart diseases, those are medically, who needed medical treatment so we have had several what they call horizontal trainings on management of heart patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So was that during, when? Before graduation or after graduation?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.206586516514143, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me in particular I have been involved in heart disease management especially those ones who were in the 4c by then that is Mulago the ward meant for cardiac diseases, so I was involved in managing of these patients and mostly doing echocardiographs for those who cannot afford doing them from other places and then those managing those ones who were admitted with heart diseases, those are medically, who needed medical treatment so we have had several what they call horizontal trainings on management of heart patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So was that during, when? Before graduation or after graduation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Before that is when I was still there at Mulago before leaving that place this excludes this is not with in the 8 years because with in the 8 years we have just had the training concerning the management of Rheumatic heart disease in a study which was conducted much more earlier on how to use the v scan,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Earlier on"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you still remember when it was done and who conducted the training?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 13.562873907237936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Before that is when I was still there at Mulago before leaving that place this excludes this is not with in the 8 years because with in the 8 years we have just had the training concerning the management of Rheumatic heart disease in a study which was conducted much more earlier on how to use the v scan,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Earlier on"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you still remember when it was done and who conducted the training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which one which training?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The one for rheumatic heart disease, what you just mentioned about using V scans"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.336881366960414, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which one which training?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The one for rheumatic heart disease, what you just mentioned about using V scans"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The rheumatic heart disease training okay there is one which was about using V scans i think about 2 years ago my memory does...but that is about two years ago and I think that was yeah two years ago early last year that is now coming to two years yeah and then there is another one where I was facilitating the training for the, the community people on detecting rheumatic heart diseases, I was one of the facilitators. That was also about the same time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, then how many patients with RHD do you see let’s say per week?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.374312629956016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The rheumatic heart disease training okay there is one which was about using V scans i think about 2 years ago my memory does...but that is about two years ago and I think that was yeah two years ago early last year that is now coming to two years yeah and then there is another one where I was facilitating the training for the, the community people on detecting rheumatic heart diseases, I was one of the facilitators. That was also about the same time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, then how many patients with RHD do you see let’s say per week?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The new ones at least I would catch like two 2, 2 new ones those ones are usually in the ward but the old ones actually I can see between 3 -5 but sometimes they pick and meaning that most times you get them when they have now presented with heart failure"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, are these in patients or both in patients and out patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.527014033284463, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, then how many patients with RHD do you see let’s say per week?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The new ones at least I would catch like two 2, 2 new ones those ones are usually in the ward but the old ones actually I can see between 3 -5 but sometimes they pick and meaning that most times you get them when they have now presented with heart failure"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, are these in patients or both in patients and out patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahh usually they are inpatients cause outpatients we have actually had issues of movement of the clinic so the clinic is now more not helping so much on the general medical clinic but otherwise in the outpatients we would get an equal amount especially you can get like about 2-3 new cases that is in outpatient basis but of course that was based on clinical judgment not usually based on other methods of evidence. Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay then what’s your understanding of the cause of rheumatic heart disease"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.80779337031607, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The new ones at least I would catch like two 2, 2 new ones those ones are usually in the ward but the old ones actually I can see between 3 -5 but sometimes they pick and meaning that most times you get them when they have now presented with heart failure"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, are these in patients or both in patients and out patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahh usually they are inpatients cause outpatients we have actually had issues of movement of the clinic so the clinic is now more not helping so much on the general medical clinic but otherwise in the outpatients we would get an equal amount especially you can get like about 2-3 new cases that is in outpatient basis but of course that was based on clinical judgment not usually based on other methods of evidence. Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay then what’s your understanding of the cause of rheumatic heart disease"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cause of rheumatic heart disease as in how what predisposes it or what causes it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What brings it about?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.076755525607663, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The treatment options we have antibiotics but they are usually out of stock in a year, you find particular options you need to have, they are out of stock like more than 50% of the time, so before we really had issues to do with the medications to give them but of recent we have had some improvement in the medications to give them, the penicillins have been available but of course the stock out has been actually quite frequent like just in the last 3-4, 5 months ago we didn’t even have those medication of course except for the project which has its own medications. But from way before that is over 7-8 years ago it has been a problem to access these drugs because most of the people have to buy these drugs, yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What’s your understanding of the long term prognosis of rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The long term prognosis treated early good outcome good prognosis treated late creates a lot of problem in terms of medical pill burden, financial losses, complications from heart diseases heart failures with eventually the patients may succumb to heart failure if they don’t really attend the clinics cardiac clinics but when caught early the prognosis is good really when caught early but caught late we have had problems of issues to do with transplants ,valve replacement which is very costly and this place is one of the highest poverty levels with highest poverty levels in the country I think we are if not number 2 or 3 just in terms of poverty levels all of the country so people don’t afford to have those expensive cardiac surgeries and eventually they end up dying but when caught early ,it has a good prognosis but when caught late the prognosis usually tends to be poor since even the management becomes a little bit expensive and complicated for the local community to sustain it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you recall the last patient you saw with RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This morning"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you could just give me their brief summary of their visit like"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 12.810809290873657, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This morning"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you could just give me their brief summary of their visit like"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This morning,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah,this is a the child who is about I think is fourteen, I think fourteen years has been on and off in the hospital has clinically presented with features of congestive cardiac failure the heart all the valves are affected, regurgitation of all the valve and dilatations of the heart chambers with ejection fraction very reduced less than 40, can’t walk, and aaah can’t sleep at night without coughing excessively, and has been really weak but that has been because the child first all of did not, did not come back, and the reason they gave for not coming back for drugs was that they did not have transport, and secondly the care taker says that they didn’t have any other person to help them do so from home so they couldn’t carry the young girl to the hospital. But general over look she is picking up and I think she may eventually need valve replacement but of course being poor even at this level, it may be quiet difficult for her to access those valve replacement because the stage where she is the heart failure is one where, you now need those cardiac assisted valves , those mechanical ones and maybe valve replacement, yeah the ICDs may benefit the child may benefit from those ICDS but coming from a poor family that you can’t even come back for just a medical review for a cardiac disease is bad enough so those are the kind of patients we eventually end up seeing, yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay quite sad for that one, then on average like what is the average age for your patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.90089921208184, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This morning,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah,this is a the child who is about I think is fourteen, I think fourteen years has been on and off in the hospital has clinically presented with features of congestive cardiac failure the heart all the valves are affected, regurgitation of all the valve and dilatations of the heart chambers with ejection fraction very reduced less than 40, can’t walk, and aaah can’t sleep at night without coughing excessively, and has been really weak but that has been because the child first all of did not, did not come back, and the reason they gave for not coming back for drugs was that they did not have transport, and secondly the care taker says that they didn’t have any other person to help them do so from home so they couldn’t carry the young girl to the hospital. But general over look she is picking up and I think she may eventually need valve replacement but of course being poor even at this level, it may be quiet difficult for her to access those valve replacement because the stage where she is the heart failure is one where, you now need those cardiac assisted valves , those mechanical ones and maybe valve replacement, yeah the ICDs may benefit the child may benefit from those ICDS but coming from a poor family that you can’t even come back for just a medical review for a cardiac disease is bad enough so those are the kind of patients we eventually end up seeing, yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay quite sad for that one, then on average like what is the average age for your patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The ages are usually, the ones I have been seeing are between, between 5 I see them between 5 up to about 20 for children then there is that group I usually find late about 40s they, usually present when they are now having other issues then the Rheumatic heart disease just got worst that’s why they present back to the hospital, but the Majority are age between 5 to 20 the ones I see"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, are most of them in school or and working or most of them just left work and are out of school because of the illness?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 13.457900261829433, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The ages are usually, the ones I have been seeing are between, between 5 I see them between 5 up to about 20 for children then there is that group I usually find late about 40s they, usually present when they are now having other issues then the Rheumatic heart disease just got worst that’s why they present back to the hospital, but the Majority are age between 5 to 20 the ones I see"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, are most of them in school or and working or most of them just left work and are out of school because of the illness?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These are children, they don’t work most of the children are actually because of illnesses, they are actually the school drop outs ,majority of them very few are struggling with school because they have problems of first of all the distances, they move to schools on foot, then also the care takers, then leave alone that those ones who go to school they have problems that they lack those ones who can take them to school, and sometimes they even default on coming back for medicine and then they eventually develop heart failure from home then they just drop off school and because of a lot of financial constraints they end up just staying at home and parents prefer treating I mean they give preferential treatment to children without heart diseases but sometime it’s unfortunate you may find like 2 or 3 children from the same family have the same thing so sometimes it becomes also a little bit stressful for the families but the older people usually they are not doing anything because they have been ill, they can’t move , exhaustion intolerance they are usually they are in the vicious cycle of poverty, they are sick, they can’t do anything then also poverty sets in because they are doing nothing and yet you need to spend on drugs spend money on drugs and so on so they are really not productive in their own communities because of illnesses."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And these the ones you interact with are they aware of the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 14.145555878801769, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And these the ones you interact with are they aware of the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are beginning to pick because of this research and ahh the cardiac program which has started with in the hospital they are beginning to pick but before it was absolutely not connected absolutely it is me as a medical person who knew but the community had their own way of attributing heart diseases just like I give you an example of three children all with rheumatic heart disease in the same family they said it was because of these traditional witch crafts at home that is why all the three children had rheumatic heart disease basically it shows that most people didn’t know much about rheumatic heart disease they know there is a heart disease but they didn’t know the one that they could do something about and the commonest one near them because thee commonest here is rheumatic heart disease in more than actually even 50 60% is just the majority basically."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then these ones who present, what symptoms do they always describe to you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of them just present with symptoms of heart failure they can’t walk, lower limb swelling, they get tired, they feel dizzy some people come when they have collapsed , others come when they can’t sit, can’t breathe, can’t sleep, with excessive cough others even come coughing blood so they come very sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then how is the follow up and adherence?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 9.050617643113076, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are beginning to pick because of this research and ahh the cardiac program which has started with in the hospital they are beginning to pick but before it was absolutely not connected absolutely it is me as a medical person who knew but the community had their own way of attributing heart diseases just like I give you an example of three children all with rheumatic heart disease in the same family they said it was because of these traditional witch crafts at home that is why all the three children had rheumatic heart disease basically it shows that most people didn’t know much about rheumatic heart disease they know there is a heart disease but they didn’t know the one that they could do something about and the commonest one near them because thee commonest here is rheumatic heart disease in more than actually even 50 60% is just the majority basically."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then these ones who present, what symptoms do they always describe to you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of them just present with symptoms of heart failure they can’t walk, lower limb swelling, they get tired, they feel dizzy some people come when they have collapsed , others come when they can’t sit, can’t breathe, can’t sleep, with excessive cough others even come coughing blood so they come very sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then how is the follow up and adherence?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Before this project, Makerere guys from Uganda Heart Institute., we had tried to have a program where we were giving them injection of benzathine penicillin every four weeks but of course the guideline was saying three weeks but because of transport problems and they come from far and so on we just had to increase one more week so at least we do one month. And they would basically come for the treatment sometimes they would buy some times the hospital has but stock out are actually quite a number. And before also this this rheumatic heart disease program which is from Makerere the one from Heart Institute before that one, the mortality was a little bit high so most of them would also die actually, but now at least they are they are living a more reasonable life the quality of life is I think more reasonable now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s nice to hear and then what sorts of barriers do they commonly state to getting care that they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.47273898476363, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Doing well in what aspect?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In terms of health Respondent. I don’t know\n\nLaughs, okay what hasn’t the district the leadership in the district not done well what do you think they are not doing well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they have not prioritized the heart diseases that’s one thing I know that’s the part they have not really prioritized prevention diagnosis and treatment of heart diseases"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why do you think they haven’t really prioritized it so much?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think there has been less emphasis put on it I don’t know whether it is the money or what I don’t know I don’t know I can’t speak for them I don’t know but they have not done really much about it may be they themselves also they really need to be informed about the magnitude of the problem may be they also don’t know I don’t know may be data use is poor so they can’t really whatever figure out the burden as such."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then about the funding of health care in general and then with RHD in particular, are you happy about it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8585988719595887, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they have not prioritized the heart diseases that’s one thing I know that’s the part they have not really prioritized prevention diagnosis and treatment of heart diseases"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why do you think they haven’t really prioritized it so much?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think there has been less emphasis put on it I don’t know whether it is the money or what I don’t know I don’t know I can’t speak for them I don’t know but they have not done really much about it may be they themselves also they really need to be informed about the magnitude of the problem may be they also don’t know I don’t know may be data use is poor so they can’t really whatever figure out the burden as such."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then about the funding of health care in general and then with RHD in particular, are you happy about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Health care funding has been poor and they usually emphasis key priority areas then priority of course is based on each and every institution what their priorities are and you can only set something to be your priority if you know the problem if you know the magnitude of the problem and as I told you earlier on, the data use in data collection capturing, collection, recording analysis and use of in the hospitals concerning heart diseases is extremely poor so it doesn’t really reflect what is on the ground and of course as you know there is a trend now that where the money is put that’s where you have more data collected for you and other places where money is not put data will not be collected and it will appear as if it is not there when it is there and for us at the front line medical personnel treating these patients we find them but to them it is not a big issue because they have not taken a deliberate step to look for these cases record them and holistically handle it according to the disease burden."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you feel we have a big problem with the record system?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.287332079955099, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think there has been less emphasis put on it I don’t know whether it is the money or what I don’t know I don’t know I can’t speak for them I don’t know but they have not done really much about it may be they themselves also they really need to be informed about the magnitude of the problem may be they also don’t know I don’t know may be data use is poor so they can’t really whatever figure out the burden as such."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then about the funding of health care in general and then with RHD in particular, are you happy about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Health care funding has been poor and they usually emphasis key priority areas then priority of course is based on each and every institution what their priorities are and you can only set something to be your priority if you know the problem if you know the magnitude of the problem and as I told you earlier on, the data use in data collection capturing, collection, recording analysis and use of in the hospitals concerning heart diseases is extremely poor so it doesn’t really reflect what is on the ground and of course as you know there is a trend now that where the money is put that’s where you have more data collected for you and other places where money is not put data will not be collected and it will appear as if it is not there when it is there and for us at the front line medical personnel treating these patients we find them but to them it is not a big issue because they have not taken a deliberate step to look for these cases record them and holistically handle it according to the disease burden."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you feel we have a big problem with the record system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Record system terrible, the financing system terrible"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it could be affecting the financing"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.2930025678458, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Record system terrible, the financing system terrible"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it could be affecting the financing"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly it is affecting also because once you don’t, once what is not recorded it means it is not done therefore the same principle applies to them when it comes to budgeting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they look as if it is not a big problem but it is"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I get it"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.770002853162, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly it is affecting also because once you don’t, once what is not recorded it means it is not done therefore the same principle applies to them when it comes to budgeting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they look as if it is not a big problem but it is"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I get it"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then what about the health workers are you happy about the numbers the qualifications that you have at the hospital\n\nHealth workers are few health workers are pretty few and they are very demotivated and they also lack knowledge in managing most of these cases of heart diseases and as I told you most people run where there is money so where you don’t get allowances for the activities, you don’t go there so cardiac diseases you don’t see allowances so no one wants to go where there is no allowance. HIV program you find people there, TB program you find people there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because there are allowances?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.300003170179999, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they look as if it is not a big problem but it is"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I get it"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then what about the health workers are you happy about the numbers the qualifications that you have at the hospital\n\nHealth workers are few health workers are pretty few and they are very demotivated and they also lack knowledge in managing most of these cases of heart diseases and as I told you most people run where there is money so where you don’t get allowances for the activities, you don’t go there so cardiac diseases you don’t see allowances so no one wants to go where there is no allowance. HIV program you find people there, TB program you find people there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because there are allowances?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because there are allowances for people who get involved in those activities"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you think there should be motivation of people?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.63898, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The medications I,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Benzathine and anticoagulation medicine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "With the program from the heart institute this research they have been there for those patients but before that and am quite sure even after that if there is no, no any post program planning done for those patients we will go back to where we were where drugs are procured."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in the hospital"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drugs are few"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the pharmacy"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.258, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drugs are few"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the pharmacy"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are there, few, if it is brought but greater majority as said earlier on it is out of stock for most part of the year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahh, you talked about diagnostics being available"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.62, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are there, few, if it is brought but greater majority as said earlier on it is out of stock for most part of the year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahh, you talked about diagnostics being available"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Diagnostics are not available but right now we are riding on the back of the researches being done in the hospital by heart institute so that’s what we are benefiting from by sending those patients there but of course once they leave we go back to square zero"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then do you have guidelines and protocols for RHD care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahh, you talked about diagnostics being available"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Diagnostics are not available but right now we are riding on the back of the researches being done in the hospital by heart institute so that’s what we are benefiting from by sending those patients there but of course once they leave we go back to square zero"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then do you have guidelines and protocols for RHD care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are using the national guide the national guidelines the one from Heart Institute but of course me as a doctor I use other two guidelines the one for American Heart Association, the European Cardiac Assoc society I combine those ones to use but we have our guideline by Uganda Heart Institute that it is used and is working well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s nice, lastly, we talk about perception of patient outcomes generally do you think that they, they are getting the care that they need especially surgery?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Diagnostics are not available but right now we are riding on the back of the researches being done in the hospital by heart institute so that’s what we are benefiting from by sending those patients there but of course once they leave we go back to square zero"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then do you have guidelines and protocols for RHD care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are using the national guide the national guidelines the one from Heart Institute but of course me as a doctor I use other two guidelines the one for American Heart Association, the European Cardiac Assoc society I combine those ones to use but we have our guideline by Uganda Heart Institute that it is used and is working well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s nice, lastly, we talk about perception of patient outcomes generally do you think that they, they are getting the care that they need especially surgery?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is that so?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are using the national guide the national guidelines the one from Heart Institute but of course me as a doctor I use other two guidelines the one for American Heart Association, the European Cardiac Assoc society I combine those ones to use but we have our guideline by Uganda Heart Institute that it is used and is working well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s nice, lastly, we talk about perception of patient outcomes generally do you think that they, they are getting the care that they need especially surgery?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is that so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is finances, these patients, the surgical aspect, most of them you refer some of them need more advanced surgeries and they need to be referred may be to India because of lack of tools to use from that side of heart institute so they tell them that they need to be sent to India but the cases that end up in Mulago where they can do with the tools they have ,they have actually been doing them and, and with really I would say with 100% good out comes, those ones they have done I think they have scored almost 100% I haven’t heard any scenario where they have failed okay may be they are there but the failure rates of those ones I have sent has been zero so those ones"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay meaning they are doing well"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is that so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is finances, these patients, the surgical aspect, most of them you refer some of them need more advanced surgeries and they need to be referred may be to India because of lack of tools to use from that side of heart institute so they tell them that they need to be sent to India but the cases that end up in Mulago where they can do with the tools they have ,they have actually been doing them and, and with really I would say with 100% good out comes, those ones they have done I think they have scored almost 100% I haven’t heard any scenario where they have failed okay may be they are there but the failure rates of those ones I have sent has been zero so those ones"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay meaning they are doing well"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it’s only those they have deferred because of the reasons of the tools to be used on them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then do you have any patient safety concerns and quality of care concerns?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is finances, these patients, the surgical aspect, most of them you refer some of them need more advanced surgeries and they need to be referred may be to India because of lack of tools to use from that side of heart institute so they tell them that they need to be sent to India but the cases that end up in Mulago where they can do with the tools they have ,they have actually been doing them and, and with really I would say with 100% good out comes, those ones they have done I think they have scored almost 100% I haven’t heard any scenario where they have failed okay may be they are there but the failure rates of those ones I have sent has been zero so those ones"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay meaning they are doing well"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it’s only those they have deferred because of the reasons of the tools to be used on them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then do you have any patient safety concerns and quality of care concerns?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The safety concerns is that they don’t know who is supposed to be like their main source of help so sometimes when you send them down there to the clinics I mean in the health centers for them to be injected some times they think they may be injected by someone who doesn’t know how to inject properly so it is issue to do with pain they may inject without lignocaine the pain attributed to the injection that’s basically their worries of course the safety concerns of the surgeries to be done which are done in heart institute they are usually minor because it is not a safety concern it’s more of worries whether it can be done because most of these surgeries were not done in Uganda so they would only be concerned whether it can it can also be done now in Uganda that’s all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then do you have you do you think there are preventable deaths that occur in the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it’s only those they have deferred because of the reasons of the tools to be used on them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then do you have any patient safety concerns and quality of care concerns?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The safety concerns is that they don’t know who is supposed to be like their main source of help so sometimes when you send them down there to the clinics I mean in the health centers for them to be injected some times they think they may be injected by someone who doesn’t know how to inject properly so it is issue to do with pain they may inject without lignocaine the pain attributed to the injection that’s basically their worries of course the safety concerns of the surgeries to be done which are done in heart institute they are usually minor because it is not a safety concern it’s more of worries whether it can be done because most of these surgeries were not done in Uganda so they would only be concerned whether it can it can also be done now in Uganda that’s all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then do you have you do you think there are preventable deaths that occur in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A million, too many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think so?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A million, too many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Why do I think so, when you come with heart failure and you don’t have a basic drug like Lasix and you die from volume overload is that death from a cause you cannot prevent?, Isn’t it so?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, so, there are deaths which you can prevent, patients come with heart rate over 160 you don’t have IV drugs to slow the heart rate down they end up with stroke or a myocardial infarct just because you can’t slow it down yeah they are preventable causes really ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So due to lack of medicines and supplies"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, so, there are deaths which you can prevent, patients come with heart rate over 160 you don’t have IV drugs to slow the heart rate down they end up with stroke or a myocardial infarct just because you can’t slow it down yeah they are preventable causes really ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So due to lack of medicines and supplies"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Medicines and yeah medicines and supplies to be used including diagnostics ECG for example not there in the hospital apart from the one of the research it’s not there it can’t be done"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So you make a lot of diagnosis from ECG alone but if you can’t make that diagnosis then you die you will die from something they would have stopped, so there are a bunch of people who die from preventable causes, yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you think there are patients who dying in the community without presenting to the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Medicines and yeah medicines and supplies to be used including diagnostics ECG for example not there in the hospital apart from the one of the research it’s not there it can’t be done"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So you make a lot of diagnosis from ECG alone but if you can’t make that diagnosis then you die you will die from something they would have stopped, so there are a bunch of people who die from preventable causes, yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you think there are patients who dying in the community without presenting to the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A bunch of them because I have gone for burials and when they talk you can co relate the history to the cause of death and you can tell this is from a heart disease ,you can tell, so many die there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why you think those ones are actually not coming to the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So you make a lot of diagnosis from ECG alone but if you can’t make that diagnosis then you die you will die from something they would have stopped, so there are a bunch of people who die from preventable causes, yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you think there are patients who dying in the community without presenting to the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A bunch of them because I have gone for burials and when they talk you can co relate the history to the cause of death and you can tell this is from a heart disease ,you can tell, so many die there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why you think those ones are actually not coming to the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s partly poverty, partly ignorance, partly lack of information of services offered, partly because of frustration, social issues at home, transport or partly the services are not available where they stay, they have to trek a long distance to the next best place where they can get a doctor like you see most doctors now are only found in health Centre 4s and hospitals even health Centre 4s the doctors are not available and even if they are available they may not be I mean they may not be I mean more, more, able to comprehensively handle these cases yeah they are not competent enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much now in your opinion what are like give me one or two most important things ministry of health could do to improve out comes"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A bunch of them because I have gone for burials and when they talk you can co relate the history to the cause of death and you can tell this is from a heart disease ,you can tell, so many die there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why you think those ones are actually not coming to the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s partly poverty, partly ignorance, partly lack of information of services offered, partly because of frustration, social issues at home, transport or partly the services are not available where they stay, they have to trek a long distance to the next best place where they can get a doctor like you see most doctors now are only found in health Centre 4s and hospitals even health Centre 4s the doctors are not available and even if they are available they may not be I mean they may not be I mean more, more, able to comprehensively handle these cases yeah they are not competent enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much now in your opinion what are like give me one or two most important things ministry of health could do to improve out comes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ministry of health, let them improve diagnostics and then supplies of the drugs and then diagnostics, supplies of drugs then they, they need to prioritize heart diseases just like the way they prioritize other diseases where there is priority they put funds and where they put funds there are results you don’t put funds no results."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much, do you have any other thing to say?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00009:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s partly poverty, partly ignorance, partly lack of information of services offered, partly because of frustration, social issues at home, transport or partly the services are not available where they stay, they have to trek a long distance to the next best place where they can get a doctor like you see most doctors now are only found in health Centre 4s and hospitals even health Centre 4s the doctors are not available and even if they are available they may not be I mean they may not be I mean more, more, able to comprehensively handle these cases yeah they are not competent enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much now in your opinion what are like give me one or two most important things ministry of health could do to improve out comes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ministry of health, let them improve diagnostics and then supplies of the drugs and then diagnostics, supplies of drugs then they, they need to prioritize heart diseases just like the way they prioritize other diseases where there is priority they put funds and where they put funds there are results you don’t put funds no results."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much, do you have any other thing to say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nothing, okay, thank you so much for accepting to participate in this interview ahh your views will really help us in making care of rheumatic heart disease better."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.19235456426542, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am 25 years of age"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, your qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am a medical clinical officer"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, where did you train from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From Kampala school of health science"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when was that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.658171738072689, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am a medical clinical officer"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, where did you train from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From Kampala school of health science"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From 2013- 2016"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so when did you qualify?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.953524153414099, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From Kampala school of health science"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From 2013- 2016"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so when did you qualify?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I qualified in 2017 April"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, 2017, so how long have you been working hare in Lira regional referral hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.1705823926823324, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From 2013- 2016"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so when did you qualify?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I qualified in 2017 April"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, 2017, so how long have you been working hare in Lira regional referral hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "1 year and 6 months"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok majorly which patients do you usually see during your time here in lira regional hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.300647102980369, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I qualified in 2017 April"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, 2017, so how long have you been working hare in Lira regional referral hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "1 year and 6 months"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok majorly which patients do you usually see during your time here in lira regional hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Patients like in age group from 5-19 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then, could you list a few common illnesses you usually see in your patients like in most programs in a typical day"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.4451634477559656, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "1 year and 6 months"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok majorly which patients do you usually see during your time here in lira regional hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Patients like in age group from 5-19 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then, could you list a few common illnesses you usually see in your patients like in most programs in a typical day"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I normally see cases like pharyngitis, laminitis, UTI’s, malaria, osteomyelitis and others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok... like let’s say according to age groups being the lower ones, which are the common illnesses you see in them? Like in"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6106494482249185, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children? Children below 5 years we have pneumonia"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have bronchitis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have dysentery and people with sore throats"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then of these others, let’s say above 5 years, which common illness do you see in them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6784993869165761, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have bronchitis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have dysentery and people with sore throats"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then of these others, let’s say above 5 years, which common illness do you see in them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The common illness I normally see with those ones above 5 years, we see people with tonsillitis, people with laminitis, people with chronic illness like sickle cells, asthma, diabetes and many other"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then do you ever see people above 19 years in your practice?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7538882076850845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have dysentery and people with sore throats"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then of these others, let’s say above 5 years, which common illness do you see in them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The common illness I normally see with those ones above 5 years, we see people with tonsillitis, people with laminitis, people with chronic illness like sickle cells, asthma, diabetes and many other"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then do you ever see people above 19 years in your practice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, which are the common illness you see in those ones above 19 year?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.165605188377592, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like...we have diabetes, asthmatic patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People with recurrent tonsillitis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then UTI’s"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok have you ever received any training on RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.18400576486399112, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People with recurrent tonsillitis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then UTI’s"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok have you ever received any training on RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not even in school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2271676109431989, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not even in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In school?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you remember about what you were trained in school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2804538406706159, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you remember about what you were trained in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, if I could say what I was trained in school about RHD, when we were trained on the definitions and the signs and symptoms"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, and how to manage them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what do you remember?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3462393094698962, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, and how to manage them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what do you remember?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember they told me that acute rheumatic fevers is an illness caused by an auto immune response to bacterial infections with groups streptococcus"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, ever since graduation, have you received any training on RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3847103438554402, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember they told me that acute rheumatic fevers is an illness caused by an auto immune response to bacterial infections with groups streptococcus"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, ever since graduation, have you received any training on RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s say like on a typical day, how many patients do you come across with RHD during your clinic day?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4274559376171557, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, ever since graduation, have you received any training on RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s say like on a typical day, how many patients do you come across with RHD during your clinic day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During my clinic day they can come, they can, so far they can be 3 in a day"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "3 in a day? Ok... and these patients, do you see both the inpatients and the outpatients? Or you..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47495104179683967, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s say like on a typical day, how many patients do you come across with RHD during your clinic day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During my clinic day they can come, they can, so far they can be 3 in a day"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "3 in a day? Ok... and these patients, do you see both the inpatients and the outpatients? Or you..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Outpatient department?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are based in outpatient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5277233797742663, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "During my clinic day they can come, they can, so far they can be 3 in a day"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "3 in a day? Ok... and these patients, do you see both the inpatients and the outpatients? Or you..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Outpatient department?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are based in outpatient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So are you based in that"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5863593108602959, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Outpatient department?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are based in outpatient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So are you based in that"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok...outpatient...ok and then just interested in what you are being taught, what is your understanding of what causes RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7239003837781431, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok...outpatient...ok and then just interested in what you are being taught, what is your understanding of what causes RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to my understanding, rheumatic fever disease according to me, it’s caused by bacteria"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then are you aware of the link between sore throat and RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8043337597534923, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to my understanding, rheumatic fever disease according to me, it’s caused by bacteria"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then are you aware of the link between sore throat and RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, not very"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by not very, so like do you have an idea?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9930046416709781, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, not very"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by not very, so like do you have an idea?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, I have the idea that I was just with it from school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, what do you remember?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3621462848710262, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, what I can remember from what I was taught from school about sore throat with rheumatic fever is the way I understand, it is there, if someone is presented with sore throat what to do is..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You need to take some investigations and you find of majorly what could have been the cause of this sore throat and you go deeper and deeper to understanding what could be the major cause of this sore throat. If you have found out what caused it, by like we have many groups of bacteria so you try to relate it to what could be the target place in the heart"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is what I know"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, am going back to our previous question on understanding the causes of RHD, you talked of bacteria do you know these bacteria exactly?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.513495872078918, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You need to take some investigations and you find of majorly what could have been the cause of this sore throat and you go deeper and deeper to understanding what could be the major cause of this sore throat. If you have found out what caused it, by like we have many groups of bacteria so you try to relate it to what could be the target place in the heart"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is what I know"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, am going back to our previous question on understanding the causes of RHD, you talked of bacteria do you know these bacteria exactly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No but I can say it’s in a group of streptococcal A, group A"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok..., alright...ah... were you taught about what can be done to prevent RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6816620800876867, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is what I know"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, am going back to our previous question on understanding the causes of RHD, you talked of bacteria do you know these bacteria exactly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No but I can say it’s in a group of streptococcal A, group A"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok..., alright...ah... were you taught about what can be done to prevent RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, a little bit, I was given how to treatment of rheumatic fever disease"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else under prevention?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.306806694221792, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Under prevention I was also taught...under prevention ...early diagnosis and treatment"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok...anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others, I was taught about management of or prevention of rheumatic fever disease, so like I said earlier, like... early diagnosis and treatment"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "After you have given treatment, you need to make follow up, yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, and then what were you taught about the treatment option for RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8479094990392495, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "After you have given treatment, you need to make follow up, yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, and then what were you taught about the treatment option for RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Treatment option?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, I can remember what I was taught with it that once you see someone with rheumatic fever disease, you can put that person on strong anti-biotic like penicillin, benzathine penicillin"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, anything else concerning treatment?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.164343887821388, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Treatment option?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, I can remember what I was taught with it that once you see someone with rheumatic fever disease, you can put that person on strong anti-biotic like penicillin, benzathine penicillin"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, anything else concerning treatment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, things which I can add about the treatment, it’s just time, its long treatment time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do you understand about the long-term prognosis of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5159376531348756, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, I can remember what I was taught with it that once you see someone with rheumatic fever disease, you can put that person on strong anti-biotic like penicillin, benzathine penicillin"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, anything else concerning treatment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, things which I can add about the treatment, it’s just time, its long treatment time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do you understand about the long-term prognosis of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A long term prognosis of rheumatic fever, I can say the long term is the way I understand it, long term prognosis can be what could be the cause after the treatment"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, the prognosis is like the outcome"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.822959743669239, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. The long-term outcome of rheumatic fever disease?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes ,"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I can say some patient or in some age group, you will find some people within that age group will start to be traumatized with what has been taking place since their understanding is still about the disease or what is affecting them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since they know about it, so they will keep on asking themselves why am i, they are doing this on me, others they are not doing this, so in the long term, they will be traumatised"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, anything else concerning that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.358844159632488, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I can say some patient or in some age group, you will find some people within that age group will start to be traumatized with what has been taking place since their understanding is still about the disease or what is affecting them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since they know about it, so they will keep on asking themselves why am i, they are doing this on me, others they are not doing this, so in the long term, they will be traumatised"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, anything else concerning that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is the information"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, when do you recall the last patient, when was the last time you saw a patient with RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.146721184731467, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is the information"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, when do you recall the last patient, when was the last time you saw a patient with RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The last time I saw a patient with acute rheumatic fever was in sept...was in July"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "July eh?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, could you tell me about, like summarise the visit like the description, the presentations"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.4793799492935014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And he was referred to lira regional referral hospital for further management and investigation, so on arrival, the patient had a form which he was referred from a health Center where they were so on reaching on my desk, so they explained to me what was taking place until when they were given a referral form, so I did some investigations, clinical investigation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and what they told me was the child had recurring tonsillitis, like it can take like 2 weeks, it comes back, two weeks, it comes back like that, so they went to a nearby facility and they were referred to the regional referral hospital and I had a clinical assessment like looking through the oral cavities and found out that there was sore throat and pain when swallowing and the patient was complaining of like she feels pain on the knee like I can say that the digits all over."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And slight increase in temperature, sometimes it increases and drops drastically, it increases and drops drastically"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok... other than that what else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5326443881038905, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and what they told me was the child had recurring tonsillitis, like it can take like 2 weeks, it comes back, two weeks, it comes back like that, so they went to a nearby facility and they were referred to the regional referral hospital and I had a clinical assessment like looking through the oral cavities and found out that there was sore throat and pain when swallowing and the patient was complaining of like she feels pain on the knee like I can say that the digits all over."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And slight increase in temperature, sometimes it increases and drops drastically, it increases and drops drastically"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok... other than that what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "so even she also told me that she has like headache which is sometimes on and off, it comes like in 2 days and it disappears, then it comes the next day like that, like that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so what was your management plan for them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9020379483207005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As per outpatient, after me looking at those signs and symptoms"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, I had to send them to a clinic where they are supposed to be seen"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK"}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to the information we were given, the person presenting the complaints of the signs and symptoms of rheumatic fever disease, so there is a special clinic they normally go and attend the services for further investigation and management but from outpatient, we also put our diagnosis but we query"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, for you, you only suspect"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0022643870230006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, I had to send them to a clinic where they are supposed to be seen"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK"}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to the information we were given, the person presenting the complaints of the signs and symptoms of rheumatic fever disease, so there is a special clinic they normally go and attend the services for further investigation and management but from outpatient, we also put our diagnosis but we query"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, for you, you only suspect"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. And then what is the average age of the patients you see with RHD, those that come to you"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.1136270966922228, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to the information we were given, the person presenting the complaints of the signs and symptoms of rheumatic fever disease, so there is a special clinic they normally go and attend the services for further investigation and management but from outpatient, we also put our diagnosis but we query"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, for you, you only suspect"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. And then what is the average age of the patients you see with RHD, those that come to you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to the age groups?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, on average, the age"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.14028036628669488, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to the age groups?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, on average, the age"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The age? It’s majorly from the age, you can say from 8-12 majorly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From 8-12?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok are most of them in school or...l?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.15586707365188318, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The age? It’s majorly from the age, you can say from 8-12 majorly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From 8-12?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok are most of them in school or...l?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, most of them, most of them are in school, some clients who come, most of them are primary pupils, and others are secondary students"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so you don’t have any who come and they are not in school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1731856373909813, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok are most of them in school or...l?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, most of them, most of them are in school, some clients who come, most of them are primary pupils, and others are secondary students"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so you don’t have any who come and they are not in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others come and tell you that am no longer in school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so they give reasons why they are no longer in school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.19242848598997922, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, most of them, most of them are in school, some clients who come, most of them are primary pupils, and others are secondary students"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so you don’t have any who come and they are not in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others come and tell you that am no longer in school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so they give reasons why they are no longer in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what reasons do they give?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2138094288777547, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others come and tell you that am no longer in school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so they give reasons why they are no longer in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what reasons do they give?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The major reasons they normally give is the disturbance from their step mothers, they have abandoned them, others the fees problems, others the distant from home to school is quite long, so that’s the problem they normally give me why they are not in school but the majorly is because of the family issues"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But not because of the disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2375660320863941, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what reasons do they give?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The major reasons they normally give is the disturbance from their step mothers, they have abandoned them, others the fees problems, others the distant from home to school is quite long, so that’s the problem they normally give me why they are not in school but the majorly is because of the family issues"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But not because of the disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, when you try to ask them, are they generally aware of the link between sore throat, ARF and RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.29329139763752354, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, when you try to ask them, are they generally aware of the link between sore throat, ARF and RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some others when you have asked, they say they have heard of this over the radio stations and village health teams about the relationships between sore throat and ARF"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, others come when they have already heard that information, we heard over the talk shows, over the radio, those ones whose parents are educated and other over the village health team"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, whenever they come to you, what sorts of symptoms do they describe to you, most of your patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3258793307083595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some others when you have asked, they say they have heard of this over the radio stations and village health teams about the relationships between sore throat and ARF"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, others come when they have already heard that information, we heard over the talk shows, over the radio, those ones whose parents are educated and other over the village health team"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, whenever they come to you, what sorts of symptoms do they describe to you, most of your patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The symptoms, they normally tell us about what they have gone through, majorly others can say I have been having this long thing for a long time, I don’t know what could be this, so I have come to the hospital to seek what could be the problem with me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like do you mind listing the symptoms, what they come with or what would be presenting complains always when they come?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.36208814523151056, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, others come when they have already heard that information, we heard over the talk shows, over the radio, those ones whose parents are educated and other over the village health team"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, whenever they come to you, what sorts of symptoms do they describe to you, most of your patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The symptoms, they normally tell us about what they have gone through, majorly others can say I have been having this long thing for a long time, I don’t know what could be this, so I have come to the hospital to seek what could be the problem with me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like do you mind listing the symptoms, what they come with or what would be presenting complains always when they come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, when they come, we normally record it in our medical record forms what they are telling us about what they are experiencing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok what am trying to ask is ,can you list them, the symptoms that they always describe just like you talked of joint pains, do you know any other symptoms that they..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.40232016136834503, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The symptoms, they normally tell us about what they have gone through, majorly others can say I have been having this long thing for a long time, I don’t know what could be this, so I have come to the hospital to seek what could be the problem with me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like do you mind listing the symptoms, what they come with or what would be presenting complains always when they come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, when they come, we normally record it in our medical record forms what they are telling us about what they are experiencing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok what am trying to ask is ,can you list them, the symptoms that they always describe just like you talked of joint pains, do you know any other symptoms that they..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, when they come with joint pains, they normally say that they feel like something is just scooping inside the bones, that’s what they normally tell us, there is something like they are scooping my bones like roughing on a roughing, so they feel much more pain when those things are happening"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other thing other than that they come and explain to you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.551879508049856, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, others, they come like they feel like fever, when the temperature is high like they feel is associated with chills, even if during hot conditions"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like others say they muscular pains"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, is that all"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6813327259874765, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like others say they muscular pains"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, is that all"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is what I can recall"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can recall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so generally about the follow up and adherence, is it good?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7570363622083073, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is what I can recall"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can recall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so generally about the follow up and adherence, is it good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, follow up and adherence is very good for our clients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you do follow up for OPD as well?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8411515135647858, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so generally about the follow up and adherence, is it good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, follow up and adherence is very good for our clients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you do follow up for OPD as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you find out if they are really following their treatment? How they have been adhering for their medication?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.934612792849762, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, follow up and adherence is very good for our clients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you do follow up for OPD as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you find out if they are really following their treatment? How they have been adhering for their medication?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I normally come to the clinic where they do their further investigations and management and I try to check on"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, alright, so what sorts of barriers do they commonly state to getting the care that they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0384586587219578, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you find out if they are really following their treatment? How they have been adhering for their medication?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I normally come to the clinic where they do their further investigations and management and I try to check on"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, alright, so what sorts of barriers do they commonly state to getting the care that they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, what they normally tell me about the difficulties they get in their case, like one day one of them told me that whenever they come, they take a lot of time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.282047726817232, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, what they normally tell me about the difficulties they get in their case, like one day one of them told me that whenever they come, they take a lot of time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "sometimes they even say like when they are moving from their villages to the healthcare point. They always delay and sometimes the mode of their coming like transport, like sometimes when they are in for their...like I say, like the day when they say you come for treatment"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The revisit day, so they say whenever they are coming, sometimes they don’t get transport from where they are coming from and they delay"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Other than the delay, do they also give you other barriers like the challenges they face to getting health care that they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5827749713792987, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The revisit day, so they say whenever they are coming, sometimes they don’t get transport from where they are coming from and they delay"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Other than the delay, do they also give you other barriers like the challenges they face to getting health care that they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So what I can recall about the challenges, they normally get like when they are referred maybe to a...like treatment section, so when they say like this treatment, we are going to maybe give you a package and you go to the nearby health facility, when you find it difficulties to come to the referral hospital by trained health workers from the health facilities like I can say from H/C 111,H/C IV within their localities, they normally say that from there, the health worker are harsh on them sometimes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t care about them to the expectations they want"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok then, that was according to them right, now this question is what barriers or what challenges do you perceive that they face in getting what they need according to you"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7586388570881095, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So what I can recall about the challenges, they normally get like when they are referred maybe to a...like treatment section, so when they say like this treatment, we are going to maybe give you a package and you go to the nearby health facility, when you find it difficulties to come to the referral hospital by trained health workers from the health facilities like I can say from H/C 111,H/C IV within their localities, they normally say that from there, the health worker are harsh on them sometimes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t care about them to the expectations they want"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok then, that was according to them right, now this question is what barriers or what challenges do you perceive that they face in getting what they need according to you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My challenges?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, the challenges you assume or you feel the patient get in receiving health care that should...like what do you think the patients are facing? The other one was on the point of the patients, what they tell you they face but this time around, it’s you, looking at it in their views, what you feel that they face, the challenges."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3012878698053627, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The challenges they face according to me?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One I can say, to me I see they come when they are already, like I can say they are traumatised"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Whenever you try to explain what is happening to them, they still have that mentality that this thing is like this? Why is this so different from others, so it refers me back to my first statement that they are traumatised?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what else do you think that they face? Other challenges that they face?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3719603330930402, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Whenever you try to explain what is happening to them, they still have that mentality that this thing is like this? Why is this so different from others, so it refers me back to my first statement that they are traumatised?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what else do you think that they face? Other challenges that they face?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "stigma"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, any other things?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.41328925899226693, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "stigma"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, any other things?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s according to me, how whenever they come"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then this is in terms of health system barriers, is the administration working for you and leadership in the district like do you think it’s doing well?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5102336530768727, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s according to me, how whenever they come"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then this is in terms of health system barriers, is the administration working for you and leadership in the district like do you think it’s doing well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To me I think there is a gap"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One is communication gap"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you mind explaining this"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5669262811965252, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To me I think there is a gap"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One is communication gap"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you mind explaining this"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I can explain my communication gap between the districts as you have stated, sometimes you find that the district does not even give the adequate information of what is taking place, they give partially"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok, other than communication gap, anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6299180902183613, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One is communication gap"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you mind explaining this"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I can explain my communication gap between the districts as you have stated, sometimes you find that the district does not even give the adequate information of what is taking place, they give partially"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok, other than communication gap, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can say yes, like teamwork"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You feel like there is no team work"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6999089891315126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I can explain my communication gap between the districts as you have stated, sometimes you find that the district does not even give the adequate information of what is taking place, they give partially"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok, other than communication gap, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can say yes, like teamwork"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You feel like there is no team work"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or there is team work"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7776766545905694, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can say yes, like teamwork"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You feel like there is no team work"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or there is team work"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can say there is adequate team work"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then, in terms of funding for health care in generally on RHD in particular, do you think they are aware of this information?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8640851717672994, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or there is team work"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can say there is adequate team work"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then, in terms of funding for health care in generally on RHD in particular, do you think they are aware of this information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Can you please come again?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like what do you think the district or like let’s say in terms of funding for health care"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9600946352969992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can say there is adequate team work"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok then, in terms of funding for health care in generally on RHD in particular, do you think they are aware of this information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Can you please come again?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like what do you think the district or like let’s say in terms of funding for health care"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think, ok generally and particularly RHD, what do you think is not being done well"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0667718169966658, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Can you please come again?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like what do you think the district or like let’s say in terms of funding for health care"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think, ok generally and particularly RHD, what do you think is not being done well"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like when..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the funding"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2058911320946491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like when..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the funding"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And the funding?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Underfunding like I can say that there is also inadequate mentorship for ARF"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, other than that, anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22876792454961012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And the funding?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Underfunding like I can say that there is also inadequate mentorship for ARF"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, other than that, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is what I can state"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then when you look at the health workers, what you think it’s not working well for them"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25418658283290013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Underfunding like I can say that there is also inadequate mentorship for ARF"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, other than that, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is what I can state"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then when you look at the health workers, what you think it’s not working well for them"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In what ways?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In terms of just like, let’s say, what do you think is being done well for you and why do you think so? Like what you think should have been done which is actually not being done"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28242953648100017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is what I can state"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then when you look at the health workers, what you think it’s not working well for them"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In what ways?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In terms of just like, let’s say, what do you think is being done well for you and why do you think so? Like what you think should have been done which is actually not being done"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You as a health worker"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38742048900000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can say in terms of facilitations?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not being done well because sometime you see we have like I can say there, staffs only strictly working on those things, they don’t involve others, so in the process, it brings tension between that then they will say that maybe these are the people specifically working for that like I can say ARF"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that is what I can explain about that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what would bring about the team bit you talked about previously?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not being done well because sometime you see we have like I can say there, staffs only strictly working on those things, they don’t involve others, so in the process, it brings tension between that then they will say that maybe these are the people specifically working for that like I can say ARF"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that is what I can explain about that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what would bring about the team bit you talked about previously?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and why do you think it’s happening like that"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that is what I can explain about that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what would bring about the team bit you talked about previously?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and why do you think it’s happening like that"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I think it’s happening like that because there is a principle which says a boss will always be a boss right, so when someone is above you and said something, there is no way you can go beyond that person"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, and that’s happening here like for the different health workers."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and why do you think it’s happening like that"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I think it’s happening like that because there is a principle which says a boss will always be a boss right, so when someone is above you and said something, there is no way you can go beyond that person"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, and that’s happening here like for the different health workers."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can say yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has it happened in several department or we have specific..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I think it’s happening like that because there is a principle which says a boss will always be a boss right, so when someone is above you and said something, there is no way you can go beyond that person"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, and that’s happening here like for the different health workers."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can say yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has it happened in several department or we have specific..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, like in my department, so it has happened because you see like when like the fellow staff like my fellow staff, they say you go to that people, you will handle that case, so it means there is a gap between there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so do we have like are the medicines available in the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, like in my department, so it has happened because you see like when like the fellow staff like my fellow staff, they say you go to that people, you will handle that case, so it means there is a gap between there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so do we have like are the medicines available in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For ARF"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, generally"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the medicine for ARF is available"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, what would you say, it’s not working well for you, let’s say in terms of medication"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For ARF"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, generally"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the medicine for ARF is available"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, what would you say, it’s not working well for you, let’s say in terms of medication"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of medication?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s say benzamine penicillin, heart failure drugs"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of medication?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s say benzamine penicillin, heart failure drugs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, I think I have no problem with medication"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You think it’s available"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, I think I have no problem with medication"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You think it’s available"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Its available 24 hours"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, even heart failure drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You think it’s available"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Its available 24 hours"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, even heart failure drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you do echo cardiography in our facility?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Its available 24 hours"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, even heart failure drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you do echo cardiography in our facility?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, you do echo? And everyone has access to it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you do echo cardiography in our facility?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, you do echo? And everyone has access to it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then how would you describe your record department?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, you do echo? And everyone has access to it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then how would you describe your record department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The record department I would say, there is still gaps in the record department"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok do you mind explaining that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then how would you describe your record department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The record department I would say, there is still gaps in the record department"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok do you mind explaining that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the reason why I have said the record gaps like am looking in the outpatient where we like see patient referred from a health facility, we don’t have registers to record those ones referred or those ones we have seen, then we have sent to the clinic for ARF"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so we still have that record gaps"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:255", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The record department I would say, there is still gaps in the record department"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok do you mind explaining that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the reason why I have said the record gaps like am looking in the outpatient where we like see patient referred from a health facility, we don’t have registers to record those ones referred or those ones we have seen, then we have sent to the clinic for ARF"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so we still have that record gaps"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of the registers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have like an ARF register for RHD patients in your department?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:257", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the reason why I have said the record gaps like am looking in the outpatient where we like see patient referred from a health facility, we don’t have registers to record those ones referred or those ones we have seen, then we have sent to the clinic for ARF"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so we still have that record gaps"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of the registers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have like an ARF register for RHD patients in your department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don’t have in my department"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh... what of any, do you ever record or keep any information concerning those patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of the registers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have like an ARF register for RHD patients in your department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don’t have in my department"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh... what of any, do you ever record or keep any information concerning those patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, in your department, do you like have any guidelines and protocol for RHD care"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:261", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don’t have in my department"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh... what of any, do you ever record or keep any information concerning those patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, in your department, do you like have any guidelines and protocol for RHD care"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Including the referral pathways?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:263", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, in your department, do you like have any guidelines and protocol for RHD care"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Including the referral pathways?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you have the guidelines, right?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:265", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Including the referral pathways?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you have the guidelines, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We were looking at the barriers to the local health system but now let’s look at the enablers, what do you think that the administration and leadership in the district has done well for you or for the district in general?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:271", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let’s say they have done best in sensitising the community"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is what I can say"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok what of in terms of funding of health acre"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:275", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is what I can say"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok what of in terms of funding of health acre"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Funding health care?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think in the funding of the health care within, from the district"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, ok that one could go as far as government, in general ministry of health, do you think or what has been done well in terms of funding of health care and for ARD in particular?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:277", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Funding health care?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think in the funding of the health care within, from the district"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, ok that one could go as far as government, in general ministry of health, do you think or what has been done well in terms of funding of health care and for ARD in particular?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the funding is fine according to me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so what are you happy about in terms of its funding?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think in the funding of the health care within, from the district"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, ok that one could go as far as government, in general ministry of health, do you think or what has been done well in terms of funding of health care and for ARD in particular?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the funding is fine according to me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so what are you happy about in terms of its funding?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of its funding, am happy about like when there is follow up, some times when we don’t do a follow-up or generally don’t follow up, we normally lose our clients so with follow up and the ... I am...can say that majorly the transport refunds for those ones who are enrolled now is quite, I can say it’s quite good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then what of the health workers, what do you think you are doing well, ok all the other health workers generally in terms of waiting time and the quality of care offered to patents?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:281", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the funding is fine according to me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so what are you happy about in terms of its funding?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of its funding, am happy about like when there is follow up, some times when we don’t do a follow-up or generally don’t follow up, we normally lose our clients so with follow up and the ... I am...can say that majorly the transport refunds for those ones who are enrolled now is quite, I can say it’s quite good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then what of the health workers, what do you think you are doing well, ok all the other health workers generally in terms of waiting time and the quality of care offered to patents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the health workers, we have improved"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok what do you think they are doing well, like when you look at them and the services they are offering, what do you...do you think they are doing well?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:285", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the health workers, we have improved"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok what do you think they are doing well, like when you look at them and the services they are offering, what do you...do you think they are doing well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I can say the clinic is doing well because you see like the referral funds has been given to majorly the health facilities within and where the patients are coming from or I can say the clients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Whenever they hear about this, they go to health facilities, they are given forms, they make the work easy when they come, and we do our assessment where they get the exact help from."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then ok I had asked about medication previously: do you think like what do you think the hospital is doing well in terms of medications like for the clients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:287", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I can say the clinic is doing well because you see like the referral funds has been given to majorly the health facilities within and where the patients are coming from or I can say the clients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Whenever they hear about this, they go to health facilities, they are given forms, they make the work easy when they come, and we do our assessment where they get the exact help from."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then ok I had asked about medication previously: do you think like what do you think the hospital is doing well in terms of medications like for the clients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, the hospital is doing well in terms of medications like one, we don’t have like stock out of those drugs within the facility"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so at all times you have like BPG drugs, the anti-coagulation drugs and the anti-heart failure drugs available?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:289", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Whenever they hear about this, they go to health facilities, they are given forms, they make the work easy when they come, and we do our assessment where they get the exact help from."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then ok I had asked about medication previously: do you think like what do you think the hospital is doing well in terms of medications like for the clients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, the hospital is doing well in terms of medications like one, we don’t have like stock out of those drugs within the facility"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so at all times you have like BPG drugs, the anti-coagulation drugs and the anti-heart failure drugs available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and you said they can get all these drugs from the pharmacy /hospital pharmacy?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:291", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, the hospital is doing well in terms of medications like one, we don’t have like stock out of those drugs within the facility"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so at all times you have like BPG drugs, the anti-coagulation drugs and the anti-heart failure drugs available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and you said they can get all these drugs from the pharmacy /hospital pharmacy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There is no time they are supposed to buy?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:293", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and you said they can get all these drugs from the pharmacy /hospital pharmacy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There is no time they are supposed to buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never come across that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then in the records, what are they doing well, what have they done well? records department"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:299", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Records department?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they are doing well because they are capturing the data when these clients come"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are there like the time they have reported like even taking other vitals, the return date, the return date, they have been captured in the register, I can say in the register but in the outpatient is still the problem to us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, concerning your perception of patient outcomes ah...do you think they get the care they need or not? Like most especially surgery"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:305", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "surgery?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the case of surgery, I have never come cross"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why do you think the? Is surgery offered in lira regional referral hospital? Concerning RHD"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:309", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why do you think the? Is surgery offered in lira regional referral hospital? Concerning RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I have never come across"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That one you not sure?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:311", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I have never come across"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That one you not sure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not sure"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, but aside from surgery do you think these patients are getting the care they need"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:313", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That one you not sure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not sure"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, but aside from surgery do you think these patients are getting the care they need"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "According to you"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:315", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not sure"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, but aside from surgery do you think these patients are getting the care they need"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "According to you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok do you have any patient safety or quality of care concerns?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:317", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "According to you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok do you have any patient safety or quality of care concerns?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To me, no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No! Ok like you feel the patients are safe in the hospital"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:319", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok do you have any patient safety or quality of care concerns?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To me, no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No! Ok like you feel the patients are safe in the hospital"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not concerned about anything? , what of the quality of care, like is it really fine"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:321", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To me, no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No! Ok like you feel the patients are safe in the hospital"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not concerned about anything? , what of the quality of care, like is it really fine"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it’s the quality of care they are giving them is fine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have any doubts"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:323", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not concerned about anything? , what of the quality of care, like is it really fine"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it’s the quality of care they are giving them is fine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have any doubts"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t have"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or worries about it"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:325", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it’s the quality of care they are giving them is fine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have any doubts"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t have"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or worries about it"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t have any doubts or worries about it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, during you...This time around that you have been in the hospital, are there any preventable deaths that you think you could have been actually stopped in the hospital"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:327", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t have"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or worries about it"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t have any doubts or worries about it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, during you...This time around that you have been in the hospital, are there any preventable deaths that you think you could have been actually stopped in the hospital"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes ,according to ARF, when we ,they are early diagnosis and put on treatment, we prevent like substance which may happen, when we like they could have been where they not minding about what is happening to them ,we put them on treatment, it means we are preventing other complications of the heart"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, ah...So now leaving a side the ARF and ARHD"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:329", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t have any doubts or worries about it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, during you...This time around that you have been in the hospital, are there any preventable deaths that you think you could have been actually stopped in the hospital"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes ,according to ARF, when we ,they are early diagnosis and put on treatment, we prevent like substance which may happen, when we like they could have been where they not minding about what is happening to them ,we put them on treatment, it means we are preventing other complications of the heart"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, ah...So now leaving a side the ARF and ARHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you like are there any prevented deaths that could have been occurred in the hospital that you feel shouldn’t have happened? Like you look like this person wouldn’t have died had this and that been done?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:333", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you like are there any prevented deaths that could have been occurred in the hospital that you feel shouldn’t have happened? Like you look like this person wouldn’t have died had this and that been done?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to the hospital for care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:335", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to the hospital for care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do think is causing that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:339", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do think is causing that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the community?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I can say knowledge gap"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like could you mind explaining further?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:343", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I can say knowledge gap"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like could you mind explaining further?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can say knowledge gap in terms of like we have like few staffs who can explain and may be sensitise the community about, maybe what is happening ,currently happening"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright..., now for these patients who die in the community before they even reach in the hospital, what do you think causes that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:349", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes the cause of those things is like when we have like culture and religion"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, you find where religion is saying ah...this is manageable by prayers, so it’s not treated to medical, others you find this culture is saying with this complaints like this kind of infections"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We use like local herbs, so they don’t dwell with modern techniques, like I can say with the lines of medicines, So there are cultures which they do away with those things"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, in your option, what do you think are the...ok in your opinion on ..,that do you think are the most important things that ministry of health could do to improve on outcomes of this place?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:351", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, you find where religion is saying ah...this is manageable by prayers, so it’s not treated to medical, others you find this culture is saying with this complaints like this kind of infections"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We use like local herbs, so they don’t dwell with modern techniques, like I can say with the lines of medicines, So there are cultures which they do away with those things"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, in your option, what do you think are the...ok in your opinion on ..,that do you think are the most important things that ministry of health could do to improve on outcomes of this place?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "More training of staffs and village health teams to sensitise the community"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:353", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We use like local herbs, so they don’t dwell with modern techniques, like I can say with the lines of medicines, So there are cultures which they do away with those things"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, in your option, what do you think are the...ok in your opinion on ..,that do you think are the most important things that ministry of health could do to improve on outcomes of this place?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "More training of staffs and village health teams to sensitise the community"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have said about training of staffs and more VHT’s and putting monitoring and evaluation teams"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you think that could be placed?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:355", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "More training of staffs and village health teams to sensitise the community"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have said about training of staffs and more VHT’s and putting monitoring and evaluation teams"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you think that could be placed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like I can say in the referral hospital,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much, aside from that, do you have anything you have to say?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:357", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have said about training of staffs and more VHT’s and putting monitoring and evaluation teams"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you think that could be placed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like I can say in the referral hospital,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much, aside from that, do you have anything you have to say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To add on"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00003:359", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "like I can say in the referral hospital,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much, aside from that, do you have anything you have to say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To add on"}, {"role": "user", "content": "which area specifically?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything, anything concerning what we have learnt, and what we have said today"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3465603157129429, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And your main activity is farming and cattle rearing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Before moving here when you got married, where did you live before?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Within this area in a place called Mabanda; it is made up of smaller neighbourhoods"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to understand the family structure while you were growing up living with your parents. Did you have other homes within your homestead where for example you could go and eat say at your aunt’s house?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4961781285699365, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Before moving here when you got married, where did you live before?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Within this area in a place called Mabanda; it is made up of smaller neighbourhoods"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to understand the family structure while you were growing up living with your parents. Did you have other homes within your homestead where for example you could go and eat say at your aunt’s house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, there were many houses in the area which belonged to other people. It was like an organized community, unless you would actually go visit your uncle’s house if it was close by."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your aunts and uncles did not live around near you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.662420142855485, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Within this area in a place called Mabanda; it is made up of smaller neighbourhoods"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to understand the family structure while you were growing up living with your parents. Did you have other homes within your homestead where for example you could go and eat say at your aunt’s house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, there were many houses in the area which belonged to other people. It was like an organized community, unless you would actually go visit your uncle’s house if it was close by."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your aunts and uncles did not live around near you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No they lived far off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many were you all in total?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.84713349206165, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, there were many houses in the area which belonged to other people. It was like an organized community, unless you would actually go visit your uncle’s house if it was close by."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your aunts and uncles did not live around near you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No they lived far off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many were you all in total?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were nine of us. Two of my sisters passed away so there were seven of us left."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had brothers and sisters?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0523705467351667, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No they lived far off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many were you all in total?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were nine of us. Two of my sisters passed away so there were seven of us left."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had brothers and sisters?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were some of the responsibilities for the boys and girls at that time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2804117185946295, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were nine of us. Two of my sisters passed away so there were seven of us left."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had brothers and sisters?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were some of the responsibilities for the boys and girls at that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that time my brothers were still very young and so were not involved in any activities as such. The eldest was in the motor bike business, another was in the business of roasting and selling maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am asking about when they were young, what household chores or responsibilities did they have?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5337907984384773, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were some of the responsibilities for the boys and girls at that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that time my brothers were still very young and so were not involved in any activities as such. The eldest was in the motor bike business, another was in the business of roasting and selling maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am asking about when they were young, what household chores or responsibilities did they have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They would herd the cattle which my father had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about for the girls?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8153231093760858, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that time my brothers were still very young and so were not involved in any activities as such. The eldest was in the motor bike business, another was in the business of roasting and selling maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am asking about when they were young, what household chores or responsibilities did they have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They would herd the cattle which my father had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about for the girls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fetching water, cooking, chores within the home and going to the farm as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who did the cooking?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.128136788195651, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They would herd the cattle which my father had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about for the girls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fetching water, cooking, chores within the home and going to the farm as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who did the cooking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The girls did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your father? What was his main activity?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.475707542439612, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fetching water, cooking, chores within the home and going to the farm as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who did the cooking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The girls did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your father? What was his main activity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was a businessman, he had a shop and he was also a farmer. He passed away around that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am sorry about that.\n\nAnd what your mother’s responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.750786158266236, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The girls did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your father? What was his main activity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was a businessman, he had a shop and he was also a farmer. He passed away around that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am sorry about that.\n\nAnd what your mother’s responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My parents lived together for some time but separated after some time when I was young. When she left she became a business person selling honey in Kenya as well as animal hides."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were responsibilities though in the home before the separation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.945317953629151, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was a businessman, he had a shop and he was also a farmer. He passed away around that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am sorry about that.\n\nAnd what your mother’s responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My parents lived together for some time but separated after some time when I was young. When she left she became a business person selling honey in Kenya as well as animal hides."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were responsibilities though in the home before the separation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She would make and sell African doughnuts. She did not really engage in housework as such after all we were there to help out with that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any of you who were educated?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1614643929212787, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My parents lived together for some time but separated after some time when I was young. When she left she became a business person selling honey in Kenya as well as animal hides."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were responsibilities though in the home before the separation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She would make and sell African doughnuts. She did not really engage in housework as such after all we were there to help out with that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any of you who were educated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes all my siblings studied until class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We want to move to meals. What kind of food did you used to eat in your home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.401627103245865, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She would make and sell African doughnuts. She did not really engage in housework as such after all we were there to help out with that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any of you who were educated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes all my siblings studied until class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We want to move to meals. What kind of food did you used to eat in your home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We ate ugali, milk and vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But there must be something you reminisce about enjoying eating in plenty as a child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.6684745591620724, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes all my siblings studied until class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We want to move to meals. What kind of food did you used to eat in your home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We ate ugali, milk and vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But there must be something you reminisce about enjoying eating in plenty as a child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we were growing up things were good, we would eat pretty much anything we wanted things did get a bit more difficult after our parents separated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did they separate, do you know?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8538606212911917, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We ate ugali, milk and vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But there must be something you reminisce about enjoying eating in plenty as a child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we were growing up things were good, we would eat pretty much anything we wanted things did get a bit more difficult after our parents separated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did they separate, do you know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I did not. We the children did not know, we can only say it was God’s will. He would associate well with us but he and our mother were not on speaking terms. I grew up and got married and around the time I had my fifth child they reconciled."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What foods were prepared specifically for certain family members who nobody else would eat it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0598451347679907, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we were growing up things were good, we would eat pretty much anything we wanted things did get a bit more difficult after our parents separated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did they separate, do you know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I did not. We the children did not know, we can only say it was God’s will. He would associate well with us but he and our mother were not on speaking terms. I grew up and got married and around the time I had my fifth child they reconciled."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What foods were prepared specifically for certain family members who nobody else would eat it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We all ate the same food whatever was prepared for all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who liked rice the best?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2887168164088787, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I did not. We the children did not know, we can only say it was God’s will. He would associate well with us but he and our mother were not on speaking terms. I grew up and got married and around the time I had my fifth child they reconciled."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What foods were prepared specifically for certain family members who nobody else would eat it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We all ate the same food whatever was prepared for all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who liked rice the best?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Small children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And these foods you would use; would you farm or buy them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.543018684898754, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We all ate the same food whatever was prepared for all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who liked rice the best?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Small children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And these foods you would use; would you farm or buy them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father farmed quite a bit and would store any excess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which ones would you buy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.825576316554171, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Small children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And these foods you would use; would you farm or buy them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father farmed quite a bit and would store any excess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which ones would you buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about meat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1395292406157456, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father farmed quite a bit and would store any excess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which ones would you buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We would buy that as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about traditional foods which would grow wild, which ones were used?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.488365822906384, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We would buy that as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about traditional foods which would grow wild, which ones were used?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hare lettuce, Night shade, and Kungujuu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who would make the decision in the home over what foods to prepare?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8759620254515377, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We would buy that as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about traditional foods which would grow wild, which ones were used?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hare lettuce, Night shade, and Kungujuu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who would make the decision in the home over what foods to prepare?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not your father?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.3066244727239305, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hare lettuce, Night shade, and Kungujuu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who would make the decision in the home over what foods to prepare?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not your father?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, he had many homes so my mother would make the decisions for our home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were the children involved in the discussion on what to prepare?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.7851383030265895, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not your father?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, he had many homes so my mother would make the decisions for our home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were the children involved in the discussion on what to prepare?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. The children could make suggestions on foods to prepare."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "While you were growing up, what would be used to determine that one has grown up? Say a boy growing up and can now be referred to as a young adult?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.31682033669621, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, he had many homes so my mother would make the decisions for our home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were the children involved in the discussion on what to prepare?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. The children could make suggestions on foods to prepare."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "While you were growing up, what would be used to determine that one has grown up? Say a boy growing up and can now be referred to as a young adult?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Perhaps when a girl started her menstruation period I could not really say for boys."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would be done in recognition of this transition into adulthood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.796467040773567, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. The children could make suggestions on foods to prepare."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "While you were growing up, what would be used to determine that one has grown up? Say a boy growing up and can now be referred to as a young adult?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Perhaps when a girl started her menstruation period I could not really say for boys."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would be done in recognition of this transition into adulthood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would depend. When I was young the celebrations would happen when the girl finishes class seven. But nowadays our children go to secondary schools and so celebrations are done over the holidays. The girl is celebrated with dance and thereafter she is confined to the home for about three months or more unless she has a fiancé. In our tradition, once a girl has reached puberty and started her menses, she should not encounter males who could be free to marry her. It is taboo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When they are kept indoors what happens?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.32940782308174, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Perhaps when a girl started her menstruation period I could not really say for boys."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would be done in recognition of this transition into adulthood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would depend. When I was young the celebrations would happen when the girl finishes class seven. But nowadays our children go to secondary schools and so celebrations are done over the holidays. The girl is celebrated with dance and thereafter she is confined to the home for about three months or more unless she has a fiancé. In our tradition, once a girl has reached puberty and started her menses, she should not encounter males who could be free to marry her. It is taboo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When they are kept indoors what happens?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If she has a fiancé she will be given some advice and guidelines otherwise she is just kept indoors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the celebration of song and dance may be done more than once? At the point of beginning her menstruation period and again once she is let out from being indoors?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.9215642478686, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would depend. When I was young the celebrations would happen when the girl finishes class seven. But nowadays our children go to secondary schools and so celebrations are done over the holidays. The girl is celebrated with dance and thereafter she is confined to the home for about three months or more unless she has a fiancé. In our tradition, once a girl has reached puberty and started her menses, she should not encounter males who could be free to marry her. It is taboo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When they are kept indoors what happens?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If she has a fiancé she will be given some advice and guidelines otherwise she is just kept indoors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the celebration of song and dance may be done more than once? At the point of beginning her menstruation period and again once she is let out from being indoors?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that is right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those who would receive lessons and advice, who counsels them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.579515830965112, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If she has a fiancé she will be given some advice and guidelines otherwise she is just kept indoors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the celebration of song and dance may be done more than once? At the point of beginning her menstruation period and again once she is let out from being indoors?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that is right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those who would receive lessons and advice, who counsels them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends, if her grandmother is there, she would do it or her grandmother from her father’s side or her aunties."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And can all these relatives counsel her?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.088350923294568, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that is right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those who would receive lessons and advice, who counsels them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends, if her grandmother is there, she would do it or her grandmother from her father’s side or her aunties."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And can all these relatives counsel her?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No only one person will take on that responsibility.\n\nMy mother for instance was kept indoors for a whole year. When she was let out they danced a particular dance called Sero and they dressed her in furs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about boys?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.653723248105075, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends, if her grandmother is there, she would do it or her grandmother from her father’s side or her aunties."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And can all these relatives counsel her?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No only one person will take on that responsibility.\n\nMy mother for instance was kept indoors for a whole year. When she was let out they danced a particular dance called Sero and they dressed her in furs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about boys?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do not have all that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do they have?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.281914720116751, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No only one person will take on that responsibility.\n\nMy mother for instance was kept indoors for a whole year. When she was let out they danced a particular dance called Sero and they dressed her in furs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about boys?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do not have all that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do they have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have the circumcision ceremony and thereafter they have a dance celebration immediately after circumcision the young men cannot have a bath, not until they heal thereafter they can have the traditional celebration dance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old were you when you got married?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.868794133463056, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do not have all that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do they have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have the circumcision ceremony and thereafter they have a dance celebration immediately after circumcision the young men cannot have a bath, not until they heal thereafter they can have the traditional celebration dance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old were you when you got married?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was eighteen. ##I003# #\tHow do you sustain your family with your husband?\n\nWe depend on crop farming and my husband is also a businessman selling cattle although things have changed, he hardly goes to the market to sell the cattle because of the drought he is unable to sell. Sometimes the animals even die and we suffer a huge loss. Things are so difficult they are selling cattle for as low as five thousand only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if you compare today’s situation with that when you were growing up, which do you prefer?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.409771259403396, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have the circumcision ceremony and thereafter they have a dance celebration immediately after circumcision the young men cannot have a bath, not until they heal thereafter they can have the traditional celebration dance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old were you when you got married?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was eighteen. ##I003# #\tHow do you sustain your family with your husband?\n\nWe depend on crop farming and my husband is also a businessman selling cattle although things have changed, he hardly goes to the market to sell the cattle because of the drought he is unable to sell. Sometimes the animals even die and we suffer a huge loss. Things are so difficult they are selling cattle for as low as five thousand only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if you compare today’s situation with that when you were growing up, which do you prefer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The time when I was growing up because things seemed easier. We would never experience the kind of drought which plagued us last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this drought affected your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.010856954892662, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was eighteen. ##I003# #\tHow do you sustain your family with your husband?\n\nWe depend on crop farming and my husband is also a businessman selling cattle although things have changed, he hardly goes to the market to sell the cattle because of the drought he is unable to sell. Sometimes the animals even die and we suffer a huge loss. Things are so difficult they are selling cattle for as low as five thousand only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if you compare today’s situation with that when you were growing up, which do you prefer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The time when I was growing up because things seemed easier. We would never experience the kind of drought which plagued us last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this drought affected your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has negatively affected my family. We have a large family so when food prices are up we spend a lot of money on food items. In addition when we cook we cannot rely on leftovers as the older ones have a good appetite and therefore you are forced to cook again for each meal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Please tell me about the responsibilities of girls nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.456507727658513, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The time when I was growing up because things seemed easier. We would never experience the kind of drought which plagued us last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this drought affected your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has negatively affected my family. We have a large family so when food prices are up we spend a lot of money on food items. In addition when we cook we cannot rely on leftovers as the older ones have a good appetite and therefore you are forced to cook again for each meal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Please tell me about the responsibilities of girls nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They fetch water although they are in school for the better part of the day and they travel far for school. We have water fetched for us for morning bath by motorcycle or bicycle as the place is far. This is all to save on time in the morning. But in the evening they do all the chores likes cooking, washing dishes, buying some buckets of water from the mosque for cleaning the bathrooms or for cleaning the house. I have two boys. The elder one I bought him salon equipment to run a salon and he also does phone charging in that shop. The other one is very young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you compare your responsibilities now as a mother and those of your mother as were growing up?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7294530307316807, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has negatively affected my family. We have a large family so when food prices are up we spend a lot of money on food items. In addition when we cook we cannot rely on leftovers as the older ones have a good appetite and therefore you are forced to cook again for each meal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Please tell me about the responsibilities of girls nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They fetch water although they are in school for the better part of the day and they travel far for school. We have water fetched for us for morning bath by motorcycle or bicycle as the place is far. This is all to save on time in the morning. But in the evening they do all the chores likes cooking, washing dishes, buying some buckets of water from the mosque for cleaning the bathrooms or for cleaning the house. I have two boys. The elder one I bought him salon equipment to run a salon and he also does phone charging in that shop. The other one is very young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you compare your responsibilities now as a mother and those of your mother as were growing up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My responsibilities are here in this house looking after my grandchildren. I cook for them. I no longer have a business to run. With this drought there is hardly anyone in the market on the market days so I have nobody to sell anything to. The Maasai seem to have moved away."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us now discuss about foods the different foods used when you were young and now. Say for instance at gatherings?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.0327255897018675, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They fetch water although they are in school for the better part of the day and they travel far for school. We have water fetched for us for morning bath by motorcycle or bicycle as the place is far. This is all to save on time in the morning. But in the evening they do all the chores likes cooking, washing dishes, buying some buckets of water from the mosque for cleaning the bathrooms or for cleaning the house. I have two boys. The elder one I bought him salon equipment to run a salon and he also does phone charging in that shop. The other one is very young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you compare your responsibilities now as a mother and those of your mother as were growing up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My responsibilities are here in this house looking after my grandchildren. I cook for them. I no longer have a business to run. With this drought there is hardly anyone in the market on the market days so I have nobody to sell anything to. The Maasai seem to have moved away."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us now discuss about foods the different foods used when you were young and now. Say for instance at gatherings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At gatherings we had pilau."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think such foods were prepared mostly at gatherings?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.25858398855763, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My responsibilities are here in this house looking after my grandchildren. I cook for them. I no longer have a business to run. With this drought there is hardly anyone in the market on the market days so I have nobody to sell anything to. The Maasai seem to have moved away."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us now discuss about foods the different foods used when you were young and now. Say for instance at gatherings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At gatherings we had pilau."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think such foods were prepared mostly at gatherings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because it was special. It was something different from the usual ugali. Nowadays however it is common and not a specialty anymore reserved for celebrations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about foods which were reserved for men or for women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.5095377650640334, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At gatherings we had pilau."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think such foods were prepared mostly at gatherings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because it was special. It was something different from the usual ugali. Nowadays however it is common and not a specialty anymore reserved for celebrations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about foods which were reserved for men or for women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did not have that here, all people ate same foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the changes in foods that are new and in the amounts eaten, do you see these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6772641834044817, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because it was special. It was something different from the usual ugali. Nowadays however it is common and not a specialty anymore reserved for celebrations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about foods which were reserved for men or for women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did not have that here, all people ate same foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the changes in foods that are new and in the amounts eaten, do you see these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Things are different. In our younger days, children would see foods like pilau and get excited whereas nowadays they only see pilau as very ordinary food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which are new food items available now which were not available in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.0706965227215823, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Things are different. In our younger days, children would see foods like pilau and get excited whereas nowadays they only see pilau as very ordinary food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which are new food items available now which were not available in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like plantains,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the rest are the same as what was eaten in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What tribes are in this community where you live?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1896628030239802, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like plantains,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the rest are the same as what was eaten in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What tribes are in this community where you live?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are very many mixed tribes here even some Maasai from Arusha."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think has led to changes in types of foods consumed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3218475589155336, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the rest are the same as what was eaten in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What tribes are in this community where you live?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are very many mixed tribes here even some Maasai from Arusha."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think has led to changes in types of foods consumed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mixing of different tribes has come with a lot of changes including changes in food items. Even farming methods have changed for example we have learnt to grow plant beans alongside the maize and harvest as we go along."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are some of the tribes here and what are some of the foods they have introduced in this area?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4687195099061485, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are very many mixed tribes here even some Maasai from Arusha."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think has led to changes in types of foods consumed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mixing of different tribes has come with a lot of changes including changes in food items. Even farming methods have changed for example we have learnt to grow plant beans alongside the maize and harvest as we go along."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are some of the tribes here and what are some of the foods they have introduced in this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that really a Maasai staple food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6319105665623872, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mixing of different tribes has come with a lot of changes including changes in food items. Even farming methods have changed for example we have learnt to grow plant beans alongside the maize and harvest as we go along."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are some of the tribes here and what are some of the foods they have introduced in this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that really a Maasai staple food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the Maasai like it very much. It is also a common item at celebrations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there food items cooked with milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8132339628470968, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that really a Maasai staple food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the Maasai like it very much. It is also a common item at celebrations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there food items cooked with milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Although there are some made with fermented milk though like beans although my family does not like it. Fresh milk can also be added to kande or hares lettuce similarly to how coconut milk is added to food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which food items would give the impression that one is poor or one is wealthy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.014704403163441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the Maasai like it very much. It is also a common item at celebrations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there food items cooked with milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Although there are some made with fermented milk though like beans although my family does not like it. Fresh milk can also be added to kande or hares lettuce similarly to how coconut milk is added to food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which food items would give the impression that one is poor or one is wealthy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think there are those which give the impression of wealth as such because I too cook most foods in my home although I am not wealthy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about foods which signify poverty?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2385604479593786, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Although there are some made with fermented milk though like beans although my family does not like it. Fresh milk can also be added to kande or hares lettuce similarly to how coconut milk is added to food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which food items would give the impression that one is poor or one is wealthy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think there are those which give the impression of wealth as such because I too cook most foods in my home although I am not wealthy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about foods which signify poverty?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cost of foods went up so rice and flour were selling at the same price per kilo so whether one ate rice or ugali it did not matter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else besides the mixing of tribes in this area has contributed to the change in foods? Like drought and education of children in schools."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.4872893866215318, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think there are those which give the impression of wealth as such because I too cook most foods in my home although I am not wealthy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about foods which signify poverty?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cost of foods went up so rice and flour were selling at the same price per kilo so whether one ate rice or ugali it did not matter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else besides the mixing of tribes in this area has contributed to the change in foods? Like drought and education of children in schools."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. They learn different methods of food preparation in school and the drought forces you to eat what’s available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which of the reasons you mentioned do you think is the main reason for the change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6525437629128132, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cost of foods went up so rice and flour were selling at the same price per kilo so whether one ate rice or ugali it did not matter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else besides the mixing of tribes in this area has contributed to the change in foods? Like drought and education of children in schools."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. They learn different methods of food preparation in school and the drought forces you to eat what’s available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which of the reasons you mentioned do you think is the main reason for the change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say education the main contributing factor and second is drought because you will be forced to buy what is available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these new foods affected your family? Is it positive or negative?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8361597365697924, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. They learn different methods of food preparation in school and the drought forces you to eat what’s available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which of the reasons you mentioned do you think is the main reason for the change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say education the main contributing factor and second is drought because you will be forced to buy what is available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these new foods affected your family? Is it positive or negative?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is both positive and negative because we eat different things but the drought also has affected people’s health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let as discuss milk now. What is the difference in the importance of milk when you were young and now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.040177485077547, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say education the main contributing factor and second is drought because you will be forced to buy what is available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these new foods affected your family? Is it positive or negative?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is both positive and negative because we eat different things but the drought also has affected people’s health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let as discuss milk now. What is the difference in the importance of milk when you were young and now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we were young it was available and priced low nowadays it is a little more expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about if you cannot get milk, does that affect your meal planning?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2668638723083854, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is both positive and negative because we eat different things but the drought also has affected people’s health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let as discuss milk now. What is the difference in the importance of milk when you were young and now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we were young it was available and priced low nowadays it is a little more expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about if you cannot get milk, does that affect your meal planning?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, I will cook what is available although because I have cattle I readily have milk and keep some for my family’s use. Although it serves me well because milk fetches a good price and I get money to sort out other items in my home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Milk prices today are very high, what do you think the reason for this is?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4076265247870947, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we were young it was available and priced low nowadays it is a little more expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about if you cannot get milk, does that affect your meal planning?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, I will cook what is available although because I have cattle I readily have milk and keep some for my family’s use. Although it serves me well because milk fetches a good price and I get money to sort out other items in my home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Milk prices today are very high, what do you think the reason for this is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes milk nowadays is priced high because of the reduction of milk production due to shortage of pasture. We have lost so many cattle due to the drought. We depend on the sale of some cows in order to pay school fees for our children. The free government education promised by President Magufuli has not yet rolled out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about conflict in the area between farmers and herders? Is there conflict sometimes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5640294719856607, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, I will cook what is available although because I have cattle I readily have milk and keep some for my family’s use. Although it serves me well because milk fetches a good price and I get money to sort out other items in my home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Milk prices today are very high, what do you think the reason for this is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes milk nowadays is priced high because of the reduction of milk production due to shortage of pasture. We have lost so many cattle due to the drought. We depend on the sale of some cows in order to pay school fees for our children. The free government education promised by President Magufuli has not yet rolled out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about conflict in the area between farmers and herders? Is there conflict sometimes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, although it is not as bad as it is in other areas where people kill each other over such conflict."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is fodder readily available for cattle presently?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.7378105244285118, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes milk nowadays is priced high because of the reduction of milk production due to shortage of pasture. We have lost so many cattle due to the drought. We depend on the sale of some cows in order to pay school fees for our children. The free government education promised by President Magufuli has not yet rolled out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about conflict in the area between farmers and herders? Is there conflict sometimes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, although it is not as bad as it is in other areas where people kill each other over such conflict."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is fodder readily available for cattle presently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for now it is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many litres of milk would you get in a day?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8197894715872351, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, although it is not as bad as it is in other areas where people kill each other over such conflict."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is fodder readily available for cattle presently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for now it is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many litres of milk would you get in a day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least 10 litres but we would keep some and sell the rest. We have not milked in a while; we have had to buy because the cows are not giving birth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who normally goes to the market to buy food items which you need?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9108771906524835, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for now it is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many litres of milk would you get in a day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least 10 litres but we would keep some and sell the rest. We have not milked in a while; we have had to buy because the cows are not giving birth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who normally goes to the market to buy food items which you need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do it when my children are not around. If they are around I simply send them to buy what I need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who decides on what to buy and who goes to the market to buy it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0120857673916483, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least 10 litres but we would keep some and sell the rest. We have not milked in a while; we have had to buy because the cows are not giving birth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who normally goes to the market to buy food items which you need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do it when my children are not around. If they are around I simply send them to buy what I need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who decides on what to buy and who goes to the market to buy it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do although we do not buy much because we grow a lot of it. If my children are around I will send them to buy because the shops are close by."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who decides what foods to buy to cook on a particular day?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.124539741546276, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do it when my children are not around. If they are around I simply send them to buy what I need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who decides on what to buy and who goes to the market to buy it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do although we do not buy much because we grow a lot of it. If my children are around I will send them to buy because the shops are close by."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who decides what foods to buy to cook on a particular day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your husband? Can he suggest?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2494886017180842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do although we do not buy much because we grow a lot of it. If my children are around I will send them to buy because the shops are close by."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who decides what foods to buy to cook on a particular day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your husband? Can he suggest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes sure even my children suggest. I prefer to buy foods which can be eaten by the whole family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does your husband go to buy some of the foods?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.388320668575649, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your husband? Can he suggest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes sure even my children suggest. I prefer to buy foods which can be eaten by the whole family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does your husband go to buy some of the foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes sometimes he will go to these shops close by to buy rice and other times if he sees something good which is in season on his way home he will just buy it and bring it home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about the distance travelled to the market then when you were growing up and now? In which case did you have to travel a longer distance to get to the market?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.54257852063961, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes sure even my children suggest. I prefer to buy foods which can be eaten by the whole family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does your husband go to buy some of the foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes sometimes he will go to these shops close by to buy rice and other times if he sees something good which is in season on his way home he will just buy it and bring it home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about the distance travelled to the market then when you were growing up and now? In which case did you have to travel a longer distance to get to the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are more readily available nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your favourite meal to prepare here in your home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6028650229329001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes sometimes he will go to these shops close by to buy rice and other times if he sees something good which is in season on his way home he will just buy it and bring it home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about the distance travelled to the market then when you were growing up and now? In which case did you have to travel a longer distance to get to the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are more readily available nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your favourite meal to prepare here in your home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What influences what you decide to cook on a particular day? Is it the needs of your family, or the availability of food items or what your children desire?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6698500254810001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are more readily available nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your favourite meal to prepare here in your home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What influences what you decide to cook on a particular day? Is it the needs of your family, or the availability of food items or what your children desire?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I buy various foods depending on how much money I have but ugali is included every day at some point of the meals. The rice gets finished really fast so I cannot prepare it every day unlike ugali which lasts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about pricing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7442778060900002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What influences what you decide to cook on a particular day? Is it the needs of your family, or the availability of food items or what your children desire?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I buy various foods depending on how much money I have but ugali is included every day at some point of the meals. The rice gets finished really fast so I cannot prepare it every day unlike ugali which lasts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about pricing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because if something you like is available but expensive you cannot just buy it. Also my husband and I are not doing well at all in business so we do not have the money to buy expensive food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Of the reasons you have cited which is the main factor affecting what you will buy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8269753401000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I buy various foods depending on how much money I have but ugali is included every day at some point of the meals. The rice gets finished really fast so I cannot prepare it every day unlike ugali which lasts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about pricing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because if something you like is available but expensive you cannot just buy it. Also my husband and I are not doing well at all in business so we do not have the money to buy expensive food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Of the reasons you have cited which is the main factor affecting what you will buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pricing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the second?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9188614890000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because if something you like is available but expensive you cannot just buy it. Also my husband and I are not doing well at all in business so we do not have the money to buy expensive food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Of the reasons you have cited which is the main factor affecting what you will buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pricing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the second?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The preferences of my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the third is the availability of the food items?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0209572100000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pricing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the second?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The preferences of my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the third is the availability of the food items?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And finally influence?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1343969000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The preferences of my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the third is the availability of the food items?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And finally influence?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss the drought that you experienced recently versus droughts you may have experienced while growing up."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2604410000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And finally influence?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss the drought that you experienced recently versus droughts you may have experienced while growing up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The drought has been there in both instances. When I was young people would make ugali from cassava flour and the alternative for that was rice. That was all that was there to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when it was?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.40049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss the drought that you experienced recently versus droughts you may have experienced while growing up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The drought has been there in both instances. When I was young people would make ugali from cassava flour and the alternative for that was rice. That was all that was there to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when it was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it was a rather long time ago, I cannot recall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what caused it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5561, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The drought has been there in both instances. When I was young people would make ugali from cassava flour and the alternative for that was rice. That was all that was there to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when it was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it was a rather long time ago, I cannot recall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what caused it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot say I was young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the drought last a long time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.729, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it was a rather long time ago, I cannot recall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what caused it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot say I was young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the drought last a long time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it did. I remember the then president organizing for food aid like powdered milk, beans, oil and some flour similar to millet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about in the recent one? When was that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot say I was young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the drought last a long time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it did. I remember the then president organizing for food aid like powdered milk, beans, oil and some flour similar to millet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about in the recent one? When was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was this year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are you living now after that season has passed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it did. I remember the then president organizing for food aid like powdered milk, beans, oil and some flour similar to millet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about in the recent one? When was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was this year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are you living now after that season has passed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just eat what is available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you lose many cattle in the drought when you were young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was this year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are you living now after that season has passed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just eat what is available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you lose many cattle in the drought when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage through then and now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just eat what is available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you lose many cattle in the drought when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage through then and now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we did not have it too hard because my father had a shop which was doing well and we could afford to buy food items. The value of money then and now has also changed. What you could do with ten thousand shillings back then is very different to what ten thousand can do for you today. For example my dowry was ten thousand five hundred which was about four cows it was a lot of money then."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Here within your family, how do you get information on nutrition, and healthy lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage through then and now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we did not have it too hard because my father had a shop which was doing well and we could afford to buy food items. The value of money then and now has also changed. What you could do with ten thousand shillings back then is very different to what ten thousand can do for you today. For example my dowry was ten thousand five hundred which was about four cows it was a lot of money then."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Here within your family, how do you get information on nutrition, and healthy lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Perhaps from the hospitals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where else in schools, churches, mosques?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we did not have it too hard because my father had a shop which was doing well and we could afford to buy food items. The value of money then and now has also changed. What you could do with ten thousand shillings back then is very different to what ten thousand can do for you today. For example my dowry was ten thousand five hundred which was about four cows it was a lot of money then."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Here within your family, how do you get information on nutrition, and healthy lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Perhaps from the hospitals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where else in schools, churches, mosques?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, from schools through our children we get a lot of information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you ever received this education on nutrition good health? Not really only the one at the clinics and do you use that knowledge within your home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Perhaps from the hospitals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where else in schools, churches, mosques?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, from schools through our children we get a lot of information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you ever received this education on nutrition good health? Not really only the one at the clinics and do you use that knowledge within your home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, when my children were young I got some good information which was useful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can such information be spread far and wide to reach other people in the area?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, from schools through our children we get a lot of information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you ever received this education on nutrition good health? Not really only the one at the clinics and do you use that knowledge within your home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, when my children were young I got some good information which was useful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can such information be spread far and wide to reach other people in the area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through government initiatives, with people going door-to-door."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about via radio?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, when my children were young I got some good information which was useful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can such information be spread far and wide to reach other people in the area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through government initiatives, with people going door-to-door."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about via radio?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That too although some people do not even have radios."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So perhaps through the mosques and churches."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through government initiatives, with people going door-to-door."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about via radio?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That too although some people do not even have radios."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So perhaps through the mosques and churches."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, however not everyone goes to the churches and mosques. More is received from children who learn these things in school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who should this information be conveyed to?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00026:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That too although some people do not even have radios."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So perhaps through the mosques and churches."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, however not everyone goes to the churches and mosques. More is received from children who learn these things in school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who should this information be conveyed to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say to mothers and women in the home because they are the ones who run their homes. Men usually come home and find meals are already prepared."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you Mother I am done, I am grateful for the discussion."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00002:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 29.56996758, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So one thing that I do think is interesting is as opposed to other types of infections, it wasn't that there was a lack of ability to get medication for the infection because there were no medications so it wasn't a disparity in terms of, you know, someone being able to afford a very expensive cholesterol lowering medication versus not being able to afford that, which if you look at other pandemics like diabetes go into, can you afford the insulin or not?\n\nAnd so or with needing an EpiPen and being able to afford the couple hundred dollar EpiPen or not. So even though this was an epidemic that really adversely impact those more marginalized, it wasn't really because they couldn't get medications to for their disease. There just were none. And again, the government has made all the vaccines free and the testing free.\n\nAnd so that that has broken down some of the structural determinants that have dramatically impacted other, you know, diseases in our country adversely. And so that that mitigates it a bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right thank you.\n\nOK, just so just some basic questions for a sec. What was your position in January 2020?."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And January 2020? [Position details] I basically run the medical school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, and how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am [mid 50s]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, great. Thanks."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00002:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 29.5221862, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And January 2020? [Position details] I basically run the medical school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, and how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am [mid 50s]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, great. Thanks."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the other things, you know, I'm an infectious disease doctor. So when this all happened, I became a de facto COVID czar for the institution and I continue to do that. So I just got an email, for example, about a student who was accepted to our program but hasn't been vaccinated for COVID 19 and she has an exemption letter.\n\nAnd would we accept her exemption letter? So I had to read that and respond. So that's still ongoing. So we all did multiple different jobs and I did some patient care. Initially it was through electronic consults because I was so busy over here. But on nights and weekends I did some of those. And then in I think it was June, I finally was able to carve out some time to do patient care during one of our surgeries.\n\nSo but Henry, if you have other questions after this, please feel free to shoot me an email and I can try and answer additional questions for you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, sure. Yeah. Thank you. I mean, do you have, like, a very strict time limit here?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00002:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 31.691318, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am [mid 50s]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, great. Thanks."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the other things, you know, I'm an infectious disease doctor. So when this all happened, I became a de facto COVID czar for the institution and I continue to do that. So I just got an email, for example, about a student who was accepted to our program but hasn't been vaccinated for COVID 19 and she has an exemption letter.\n\nAnd would we accept her exemption letter? So I had to read that and respond. So that's still ongoing. So we all did multiple different jobs and I did some patient care. Initially it was through electronic consults because I was so busy over here. But on nights and weekends I did some of those. And then in I think it was June, I finally was able to carve out some time to do patient care during one of our surgeries.\n\nSo but Henry, if you have other questions after this, please feel free to shoot me an email and I can try and answer additional questions for you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, sure. Yeah. Thank you. I mean, do you have, like, a very strict time limit here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I have I have at least another 10 minutes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, great. Yeah, I probably will have follow up questions. At some point. And just I speak with my advisor tomorrow so I can see mentioned. I mean, we're still in it.\n\nAnd it seems like this duration has taken a lot of people by surprise. Why do you think that is?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00002:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 20, "return_to_go": 20.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm thinking it's coming here next. You know, there's, there's there's no way it's not you know, if it had gone to let's say, you know, South Dakota, where they have very poor infrastructure and they had a hard time managing it I would have said, well, they don't they're not heavily resourced. But, you know, Seattle is one of the premier health facility centers.\n\nYou know, they're they're incredibly well resourced. There's tremendous public health in Washington State. And watching how they have this cascade of challenges and again, they pulled their students out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I mean, if but if it made it to South Dakota, it would surely be in New York as well."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But, you know, the traffic between Seattle and New York is is is very high. The traffic between South Dakota and New York is not not that high."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, same with Wuhan to South Dakota is not that high either."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, but again, Wuhan is a major urban setting so my my point is that if if Washington State, with their incredible public health and the remarkable health care facilities that they have, was not able to handle this very effectively we then, you know, New York is usually the next place to get something. So if if drug resistant gonorrhea is in San Francisco and L.A., guess what?\n\nIt's going to be in New York very soon too. HIV, you know, L.A., San Francisco, New York. This is just how you see it. And so I was very confident that we are going to have this. How much of a challenge it was going to be wasn't necessarily clear yet. Again, at that time, it was thought that this was droplet spread, and droplets are much easier to manage than aerosol spread.\n\nAnd so we thought we had better tools and we thought we knew more early on. Then than we did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you for that.\n\nLast one, because you got to go see Seattle, Bangkok, Seattle, Iran, Italy can tell me about how you're feeling."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.2967829841667715, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since I got married in this village?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a long time ago, since 1986."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since 86?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So up to now it is 31 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have you been able to be a leader or famous in this village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.6630922046297454, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a long time ago, since 1986."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since 86?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So up to now it is 31 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have you been able to be a leader or famous in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have been able to be a leader through our small groups, for example there are our small groups of selling milk and other small groups for getting our small needs and been able to be in VICOBA"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you chosen to be a leader?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9589913384774946, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So up to now it is 31 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have you been able to be a leader or famous in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have been able to be a leader through our small groups, for example there are our small groups of selling milk and other small groups for getting our small needs and been able to be in VICOBA"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you chosen to be a leader?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the first time I was a leader as a chairperson but due to the eyes problems and heart problem I failed to be leader"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama what bad things have been happening since February up to now in this year?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.653075726515425, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the first time I was a leader as a chairperson but due to the eyes problems and heart problem I failed to be leader"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama what bad things have been happening since February up to now in this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since February?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen anything bad happening, I only face hardship in life specifically in earning money, in business and maybe death of animals"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what’s the number of rich families in this village? And does it increase or decrease?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.947861918350472, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since February?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen anything bad happening, I only face hardship in life specifically in earning money, in business and maybe death of animals"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what’s the number of rich families in this village? And does it increase or decrease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can say it depends on the family itself, there is a year it increases and there is a year it decreases because a family can get visitors to live in such family since they do not afford their lives from where they came from. So, in that situation the family has increased\n\nOn the side of richness?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since when you arrived here, does the number of rich families increase or decrease?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2754021315005244, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen anything bad happening, I only face hardship in life specifically in earning money, in business and maybe death of animals"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what’s the number of rich families in this village? And does it increase or decrease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can say it depends on the family itself, there is a year it increases and there is a year it decreases because a family can get visitors to live in such family since they do not afford their lives from where they came from. So, in that situation the family has increased\n\nOn the side of richness?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since when you arrived here, does the number of rich families increase or decrease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen yet but the only thing I see in my family the riches have decreased"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is the number of poor families since you arrived in this area? Does it increase or decreases?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.639335701667249, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can say it depends on the family itself, there is a year it increases and there is a year it decreases because a family can get visitors to live in such family since they do not afford their lives from where they came from. So, in that situation the family has increased\n\nOn the side of richness?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since when you arrived here, does the number of rich families increase or decrease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen yet but the only thing I see in my family the riches have decreased"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is the number of poor families since you arrived in this area? Does it increase or decreases?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I see some were poor but now they are well of, some are poor and the situation mostly continues to be bad, they become poorer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think the source of those changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.043706335185832, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen yet but the only thing I see in my family the riches have decreased"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is the number of poor families since you arrived in this area? Does it increase or decreases?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I see some were poor but now they are well of, some are poor and the situation mostly continues to be bad, they become poorer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think the source of those changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the source may depend on such family for example One may have five cows but they die of draught and the families remain with nothing. Since the cows do not produce milk again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the major reason for that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.493007039095369, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I see some were poor but now they are well of, some are poor and the situation mostly continues to be bad, they become poorer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think the source of those changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the source may depend on such family for example One may have five cows but they die of draught and the families remain with nothing. Since the cows do not produce milk again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the major reason for that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The problem is the sun damaging the animals because others cannot do farming, they depend on animals. Others practice animal husbandry and farming so they can get crops when their animals die."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these changes affect the society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.9922300434392985, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the source may depend on such family for example One may have five cows but they die of draught and the families remain with nothing. Since the cows do not produce milk again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the major reason for that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The problem is the sun damaging the animals because others cannot do farming, they depend on animals. Others practice animal husbandry and farming so they can get crops when their animals die."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these changes affect the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have affected the society at large, for example a person has lost the animals and having the children who depend on her/ him, so it is a problem because he / she lacks money even for sending a child to the hospital, hence she/ he should go to the neighbor begging for the help even two hundred Tanzania shilling to send their children to the hospital and if at all you have, one decides to help. Truly there are societies which are affected like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affected the nutrition area?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.54692227048811, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The problem is the sun damaging the animals because others cannot do farming, they depend on animals. Others practice animal husbandry and farming so they can get crops when their animals die."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these changes affect the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have affected the society at large, for example a person has lost the animals and having the children who depend on her/ him, so it is a problem because he / she lacks money even for sending a child to the hospital, hence she/ he should go to the neighbor begging for the help even two hundred Tanzania shilling to send their children to the hospital and if at all you have, one decides to help. Truly there are societies which are affected like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affected the nutrition area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is hard to know on the nutrition side because I donot know on the side of other people since others depend to get their nutrition at the market and he/ she does not have an income for him/ her to go to the market, it is hard for them at least to me who know where I can hustle and get little money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which calamities have you seen lately?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.052135856097899, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have affected the society at large, for example a person has lost the animals and having the children who depend on her/ him, so it is a problem because he / she lacks money even for sending a child to the hospital, hence she/ he should go to the neighbor begging for the help even two hundred Tanzania shilling to send their children to the hospital and if at all you have, one decides to help. Truly there are societies which are affected like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affected the nutrition area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is hard to know on the nutrition side because I donot know on the side of other people since others depend to get their nutrition at the market and he/ she does not have an income for him/ her to go to the market, it is hard for them at least to me who know where I can hustle and get little money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which calamities have you seen lately?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These current days?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes in the interval of Two years, one year, five years"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.50237317344211, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is hard to know on the nutrition side because I donot know on the side of other people since others depend to get their nutrition at the market and he/ she does not have an income for him/ her to go to the market, it is hard for them at least to me who know where I can hustle and get little money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which calamities have you seen lately?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These current days?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes in the interval of Two years, one year, five years"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The calamities that I have seen for the last years are those of people fighting"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are they?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 5.002636859380122, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These current days?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes in the interval of Two years, one year, five years"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The calamities that I have seen for the last years are those of people fighting"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The animals going to the people farms but I do not see any other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there calamities which you have seen concerning unavailability of enough food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2251520659779125, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The calamities that I have seen for the last years are those of people fighting"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The animals going to the people farms but I do not see any other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there calamities which you have seen concerning unavailability of enough food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have seen the adequate of food last year because of the drought, we bought the bag of flour of 25 kilograms at forty-three thousand Tanzania shilling. Hence we got that calamity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about lack of market?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4723911844199025, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The animals going to the people farms but I do not see any other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there calamities which you have seen concerning unavailability of enough food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have seen the adequate of food last year because of the drought, we bought the bag of flour of 25 kilograms at forty-three thousand Tanzania shilling. Hence we got that calamity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about lack of market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no a market in this area, we depend the market in the neighboring village where there is a market but in this village we can sell food to each other for example if u have cultivated crops and you need to sell to the neighbor who needs them but if they do not need you may sell them to the people from far. But currently we have been selling them to each other within the village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about lack of enough firewood for cooking?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7471013160221136, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have seen the adequate of food last year because of the drought, we bought the bag of flour of 25 kilograms at forty-three thousand Tanzania shilling. Hence we got that calamity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about lack of market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no a market in this area, we depend the market in the neighboring village where there is a market but in this village we can sell food to each other for example if u have cultivated crops and you need to sell to the neighbor who needs them but if they do not need you may sell them to the people from far. But currently we have been selling them to each other within the village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about lack of enough firewood for cooking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We collect the firewood within the village, but the one who is capable of using the paraffin stove or use charcoal they usually use depending on one’s income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think the problem of lack of enough water and starvation has contributed to the unavailability of enough food in this society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0523347955801263, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no a market in this area, we depend the market in the neighboring village where there is a market but in this village we can sell food to each other for example if u have cultivated crops and you need to sell to the neighbor who needs them but if they do not need you may sell them to the people from far. But currently we have been selling them to each other within the village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about lack of enough firewood for cooking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We collect the firewood within the village, but the one who is capable of using the paraffin stove or use charcoal they usually use depending on one’s income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think the problem of lack of enough water and starvation has contributed to the unavailability of enough food in this society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If there is no rainfall you may not get food since cultivation depends on the availability of enough rainfall, lack of rainfall causes crops to die but if there is enough rainfall one may get enough food since the crops grow well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you have the problem of lack of water?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.3914831062001403, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We collect the firewood within the village, but the one who is capable of using the paraffin stove or use charcoal they usually use depending on one’s income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think the problem of lack of enough water and starvation has contributed to the unavailability of enough food in this society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If there is no rainfall you may not get food since cultivation depends on the availability of enough rainfall, lack of rainfall causes crops to die but if there is enough rainfall one may get enough food since the crops grow well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you have the problem of lack of water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is water problem since it is drought season and we depend on tapes, and our well, water is pumped, we buy diesel so we are distributed water by using tapes but rivers are far away from here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think lack of water and firewood for cooking may be the source of lack of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6572034513334892, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If there is no rainfall you may not get food since cultivation depends on the availability of enough rainfall, lack of rainfall causes crops to die but if there is enough rainfall one may get enough food since the crops grow well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you have the problem of lack of water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is water problem since it is drought season and we depend on tapes, and our well, water is pumped, we buy diesel so we are distributed water by using tapes but rivers are far away from here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think lack of water and firewood for cooking may be the source of lack of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, Firewood cannot be the source of inadequate food since they are collected and if he food is there you can cook, about water u can send someone to the far tapes to bring them for you"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the families address the problem of inadequate food supply in this society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9524482792594324, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is water problem since it is drought season and we depend on tapes, and our well, water is pumped, we buy diesel so we are distributed water by using tapes but rivers are far away from here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think lack of water and firewood for cooking may be the source of lack of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, Firewood cannot be the source of inadequate food since they are collected and if he food is there you can cook, about water u can send someone to the far tapes to bring them for you"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the families address the problem of inadequate food supply in this society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Other families are not capable in engaging in agriculture, so that family fails to know where to start to learn it becomes hard to learn and be able to cultivate"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which tactics do you use to make sure that a family has enough food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.280498088066036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, Firewood cannot be the source of inadequate food since they are collected and if he food is there you can cook, about water u can send someone to the far tapes to bring them for you"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the families address the problem of inadequate food supply in this society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Other families are not capable in engaging in agriculture, so that family fails to know where to start to learn it becomes hard to learn and be able to cultivate"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which tactics do you use to make sure that a family has enough food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only means in finding food is by engaging in agriculture, doing business and buying food in the market, everyone design their ways so as the children are satisfied"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there any other means?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.6449978756289285, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Other families are not capable in engaging in agriculture, so that family fails to know where to start to learn it becomes hard to learn and be able to cultivate"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which tactics do you use to make sure that a family has enough food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only means in finding food is by engaging in agriculture, doing business and buying food in the market, everyone design their ways so as the children are satisfied"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there any other means?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I only know that one that you think which way you will use so as you can eat so a person should find food for the children to eat and get satisfied"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about selling the animals?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.938886528476587, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only means in finding food is by engaging in agriculture, doing business and buying food in the market, everyone design their ways so as the children are satisfied"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there any other means?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I only know that one that you think which way you will use so as you can eat so a person should find food for the children to eat and get satisfied"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about selling the animals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The large percent is the men who sell their animals, me as a woman is not easy to sell my animal since a father is a main person who own the animals"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do men spend the money when they sell their animals?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.265429476085097, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I only know that one that you think which way you will use so as you can eat so a person should find food for the children to eat and get satisfied"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about selling the animals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The large percent is the men who sell their animals, me as a woman is not easy to sell my animal since a father is a main person who own the animals"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do men spend the money when they sell their animals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Buying food, when there is no food they buy food, buy clothes for their children, caring for his family and if he is the farmer he can farm by using that money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about slaughtering the animals?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.628254973427885, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The large percent is the men who sell their animals, me as a woman is not easy to sell my animal since a father is a main person who own the animals"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do men spend the money when they sell their animals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Buying food, when there is no food they buy food, buy clothes for their children, caring for his family and if he is the farmer he can farm by using that money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about slaughtering the animals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Slaughtering for eating?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, slaughtering for selling so as to get money"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.031394414919872, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Buying food, when there is no food they buy food, buy clothes for their children, caring for his family and if he is the farmer he can farm by using that money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about slaughtering the animals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Slaughtering for eating?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, slaughtering for selling so as to get money"}, {"role": "user", "content": "to my side, they never slaughter to get meat for selling so as to earn money, they slaughter for eating or they sell the animal when there is a problem at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kinds of people are mostly affected when there is inadequate food supply?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.977030141876385, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "to my side, they never slaughter to get meat for selling so as to earn money, they slaughter for eating or they sell the animal when there is a problem at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kinds of people are mostly affected when there is inadequate food supply?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is women and children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Father is the one to go out and find food while mother remain home with children while at the moment she has to find a way out for the children to eat until father comes back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what means do you use to reduce or remove the problem of hunger in the village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.530033490973762, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is women and children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Father is the one to go out and find food while mother remain home with children while at the moment she has to find a way out for the children to eat until father comes back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what means do you use to reduce or remove the problem of hunger in the village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "people save what they have harvested, the food kept in stock should be used well to cover the whole time until when they cultivate again, and one should budget."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how can water reduce the problem of lack of enough food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 6.144481656637513, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Father is the one to go out and find food while mother remain home with children while at the moment she has to find a way out for the children to eat until father comes back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what means do you use to reduce or remove the problem of hunger in the village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "people save what they have harvested, the food kept in stock should be used well to cover the whole time until when they cultivate again, and one should budget."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how can water reduce the problem of lack of enough food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "presence of enough water leads to availability of food, water is directly proportion to enough food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there any changes on the climate?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2716462851527923, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "people save what they have harvested, the food kept in stock should be used well to cover the whole time until when they cultivate again, and one should budget."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how can water reduce the problem of lack of enough food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "presence of enough water leads to availability of food, water is directly proportion to enough food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there any changes on the climate?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there always changes in whether the rainy season may begin earlier or delays, for example in this year last month we had rain for two days unlike other years there is usually no rain in September, usually it is raining in December and April mostly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there any major changes in the weather conditions in the society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4129403168364358, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "presence of enough water leads to availability of food, water is directly proportion to enough food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there any changes on the climate?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there always changes in whether the rainy season may begin earlier or delays, for example in this year last month we had rain for two days unlike other years there is usually no rain in September, usually it is raining in December and April mostly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there any major changes in the weather conditions in the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are changes, example last year we were lazy and did not invest in farming but this year its different most of us have cultivated and the weather is good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "can you compare the availability of rain for the current years?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5699336853738175, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there always changes in whether the rainy season may begin earlier or delays, for example in this year last month we had rain for two days unlike other years there is usually no rain in September, usually it is raining in December and April mostly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there any major changes in the weather conditions in the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are changes, example last year we were lazy and did not invest in farming but this year its different most of us have cultivated and the weather is good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "can you compare the availability of rain for the current years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "last year there were less rain unlike this year where by it has been raining a lot and people harvested a lot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about sunny season? Has it been too hot?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6332596504153529, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are changes, example last year we were lazy and did not invest in farming but this year its different most of us have cultivated and the weather is good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "can you compare the availability of rain for the current years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "last year there were less rain unlike this year where by it has been raining a lot and people harvested a lot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about sunny season? Has it been too hot?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "unlike last year, this year the weather is good it’s not too hot like the previous years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how have the changes affected the society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7036218337948366, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "last year there were less rain unlike this year where by it has been raining a lot and people harvested a lot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about sunny season? Has it been too hot?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "unlike last year, this year the weather is good it’s not too hot like the previous years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how have the changes affected the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "due to the sunny season many people got sick they had to go for treatment in the hospital."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how did it affect feeding areas for cattle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7818020375498184, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "unlike last year, this year the weather is good it’s not too hot like the previous years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how have the changes affected the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "due to the sunny season many people got sick they had to go for treatment in the hospital."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how did it affect feeding areas for cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "cattle’s experienced a lot of hardship since there was no enough grass that being the fact they ate until soil and this affected their health hence there was loss of cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the availability of water and food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8686689306109092, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "due to the sunny season many people got sick they had to go for treatment in the hospital."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how did it affect feeding areas for cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "cattle’s experienced a lot of hardship since there was no enough grass that being the fact they ate until soil and this affected their health hence there was loss of cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the availability of water and food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "food is available in the market"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about source of water, how have the changes affected sources of water?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.965187700678788, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "cattle’s experienced a lot of hardship since there was no enough grass that being the fact they ate until soil and this affected their health hence there was loss of cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the availability of water and food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "food is available in the market"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about source of water, how have the changes affected sources of water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no change in the sources of water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kinds of jobs are done by members of the family? That is what does the father do and mother too?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0724307785319867, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "food is available in the market"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about source of water, how have the changes affected sources of water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no change in the sources of water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kinds of jobs are done by members of the family? That is what does the father do and mother too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "every family has its own way of doing things, in some families the head of the family that is father involve himself in business of selling cattle, at times the business may be bad it leads to mothers to participate in selling chapatti and buns to assist in covering expenses of the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do people cultivate when the weather is not conducive?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.08047864281331853, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no change in the sources of water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kinds of jobs are done by members of the family? That is what does the father do and mother too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "every family has its own way of doing things, in some families the head of the family that is father involve himself in business of selling cattle, at times the business may be bad it leads to mothers to participate in selling chapatti and buns to assist in covering expenses of the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do people cultivate when the weather is not conducive?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it depends with the season, it maybe maize, rice they only consider the right season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "apart from livestock keeping, what do people do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.08942071423702058, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "every family has its own way of doing things, in some families the head of the family that is father involve himself in business of selling cattle, at times the business may be bad it leads to mothers to participate in selling chapatti and buns to assist in covering expenses of the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do people cultivate when the weather is not conducive?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it depends with the season, it maybe maize, rice they only consider the right season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "apart from livestock keeping, what do people do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they involve themselves with small business, or help other people and earn some income. They help them with activities like collecting firewood, washing dishes and even washing clothes. They get paid by doing those activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there people who go to town to look for jobs?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.09935634915224509, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it depends with the season, it maybe maize, rice they only consider the right season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "apart from livestock keeping, what do people do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they involve themselves with small business, or help other people and earn some income. They help them with activities like collecting firewood, washing dishes and even washing clothes. They get paid by doing those activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there people who go to town to look for jobs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes people usually go to town to look for jobs for example the youth"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there other people who go apart from the youth?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.11039594350249454, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they involve themselves with small business, or help other people and earn some income. They help them with activities like collecting firewood, washing dishes and even washing clothes. They get paid by doing those activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there people who go to town to look for jobs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes people usually go to town to look for jobs for example the youth"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there other people who go apart from the youth?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "women usually go too, they go to work as waiters in bar"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do people involve themselves in small business?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12266215944721616, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes people usually go to town to look for jobs for example the youth"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there other people who go apart from the youth?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "women usually go too, they go to work as waiters in bar"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do people involve themselves in small business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes they do, some sell onions, tomatoes, buns, chapatti, soda"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "where do people get food if there is scarcity of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13629128827468462, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "women usually go too, they go to work as waiters in bar"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do people involve themselves in small business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes they do, some sell onions, tomatoes, buns, chapatti, soda"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "where do people get food if there is scarcity of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "people get their food in the market; one should have cash to buy the items. They get the cash through business or working for other people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about milk supply?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.15143476474964956, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes they do, some sell onions, tomatoes, buns, chapatti, soda"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "where do people get food if there is scarcity of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "people get their food in the market; one should have cash to buy the items. They get the cash through business or working for other people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about milk supply?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "milk supply depends on the weather condition, during sunny season the supply is less unlike rainy season, animals produce a lot of milk since they are fed well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "which group of people faces more challenges than the other in facing the changes? Is it men or women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.16826084972183283, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "people get their food in the market; one should have cash to buy the items. They get the cash through business or working for other people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about milk supply?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "milk supply depends on the weather condition, during sunny season the supply is less unlike rainy season, animals produce a lot of milk since they are fed well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "which group of people faces more challenges than the other in facing the changes? Is it men or women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "men usually face more challenges since they are the head of the family and that being the fact they have to provide for their families"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do the conflicts bring about scarcity of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.18695649969092537, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "milk supply depends on the weather condition, during sunny season the supply is less unlike rainy season, animals produce a lot of milk since they are fed well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "which group of people faces more challenges than the other in facing the changes? Is it men or women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "men usually face more challenges since they are the head of the family and that being the fact they have to provide for their families"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do the conflicts bring about scarcity of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so since foods are found in the market, so I cannot say they do, they don’t it depends on where the food is found."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do the conflicts between peasants and farmers increase or decreases?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2077294441010282, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "men usually face more challenges since they are the head of the family and that being the fact they have to provide for their families"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do the conflicts bring about scarcity of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so since foods are found in the market, so I cannot say they do, they don’t it depends on where the food is found."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do the conflicts between peasants and farmers increase or decreases?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in this village there is great understanding between farmers and peasants, I believe there are no conflicts between them peasants usually take their cattle to the river to drink water without any problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you told me when the living conditions are bad men do more work which are hard compared to women, what type of works do they do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.23081049344558688, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so since foods are found in the market, so I cannot say they do, they don’t it depends on where the food is found."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do the conflicts between peasants and farmers increase or decreases?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in this village there is great understanding between farmers and peasants, I believe there are no conflicts between them peasants usually take their cattle to the river to drink water without any problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you told me when the living conditions are bad men do more work which are hard compared to women, what type of works do they do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no enough food in the family, no money still the family needs to eat; I may help in attaining the needs of the family though the father has to work more to provide for his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is there time whereby you move your cattle from one area to the other?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25645610382842987, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "in this village there is great understanding between farmers and peasants, I believe there are no conflicts between them peasants usually take their cattle to the river to drink water without any problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you told me when the living conditions are bad men do more work which are hard compared to women, what type of works do they do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no enough food in the family, no money still the family needs to eat; I may help in attaining the needs of the family though the father has to work more to provide for his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is there time whereby you move your cattle from one area to the other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "who does the work of moving the cattle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28495122647603316, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no enough food in the family, no money still the family needs to eat; I may help in attaining the needs of the family though the father has to work more to provide for his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is there time whereby you move your cattle from one area to the other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "who does the work of moving the cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That depends on the family, the head of the family that is the father may move the cattle or if there are youth in the family they may move the cattle from one area to the other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "where do people get food when they have moved their cattle to another area?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.31661247386225905, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "who does the work of moving the cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That depends on the family, the head of the family that is the father may move the cattle or if there are youth in the family they may move the cattle from one area to the other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "where do people get food when they have moved their cattle to another area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the head of the family provides for his family but I cannot comment on that since I have not moved my cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.35179163762473226, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That depends on the family, the head of the family that is the father may move the cattle or if there are youth in the family they may move the cattle from one area to the other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "where do people get food when they have moved their cattle to another area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the head of the family provides for his family but I cannot comment on that since I have not moved my cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "what I know is the father and his children may move but the father leaves enough food for the people remaining, and the father moves from one area to the other that is visits his home and the area he is keeping the cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the milk supply?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3908795973608136, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the head of the family provides for his family but I cannot comment on that since I have not moved my cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "what I know is the father and his children may move but the father leaves enough food for the people remaining, and the father moves from one area to the other that is visits his home and the area he is keeping the cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the milk supply?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "usually the moving cattle don’t produce enough milk, so there is poor supply of milk until when the cattle return home during its rainy season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what other activities do people do apart from farming and livestock keeping?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4343106637342373, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "what I know is the father and his children may move but the father leaves enough food for the people remaining, and the father moves from one area to the other that is visits his home and the area he is keeping the cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the milk supply?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "usually the moving cattle don’t produce enough milk, so there is poor supply of milk until when the cattle return home during its rainy season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what other activities do people do apart from farming and livestock keeping?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "men or women?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "let’s start with men"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.48256740414915256, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "usually the moving cattle don’t produce enough milk, so there is poor supply of milk until when the cattle return home during its rainy season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what other activities do people do apart from farming and livestock keeping?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "men or women?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "let’s start with men"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Able men involve themselves in several activities; youth involve themselves in business of selling cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any other activities"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5361860046101695, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "men or women?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "let’s start with men"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Able men involve themselves in several activities; youth involve themselves in business of selling cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any other activities"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for us women we involve ourselves in sewing, selling accessories"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about selling charcoal?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5957622273446328, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Able men involve themselves in several activities; youth involve themselves in business of selling cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any other activities"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for us women we involve ourselves in sewing, selling accessories"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about selling charcoal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in our society majority do not involve themselves in that activity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about mining?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6619580303829253, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "for us women we involve ourselves in sewing, selling accessories"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about selling charcoal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in our society majority do not involve themselves in that activity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about mining?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never seen that in this village maybe it’s done in other villages"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you told me that in this village people involve themselves in business, what do other do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8172321362752165, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never seen that in this village maybe it’s done in other villages"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you told me that in this village people involve themselves in business, what do other do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the ones who are able do business and the ones who are incapable they just stay at home. Their children take care of their old parents; they get profit from their business and add the number of their cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they buy land and build houses"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are those the benefits of doing business?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9080357069724627, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the ones who are able do business and the ones who are incapable they just stay at home. Their children take care of their old parents; they get profit from their business and add the number of their cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they buy land and build houses"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are those the benefits of doing business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about disadvantages?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0089285633027363, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they buy land and build houses"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are those the benefits of doing business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about disadvantages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "people who don’t involve themselves in doing anything usually get loss, no income"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know major problems in livestock keeping? And what about those who go to school, what do they do after school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1210317370030403, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about disadvantages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "people who don’t involve themselves in doing anything usually get loss, no income"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know major problems in livestock keeping? And what about those who go to school, what do they do after school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "after finishing school some get employed, some are teachers, some are just at home. It depends on their educational level"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about traditions?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3839897987691854, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "after finishing school some get employed, some are teachers, some are just at home. It depends on their educational level"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about traditions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "do you mean in this village?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do conflicts cause changes in the village"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5377664430768727, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "do you mean in this village?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do conflicts cause changes in the village"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, I don’t think so"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do visitors bring about any changes in the village that is development?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7086293811965252, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do conflicts cause changes in the village"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, I don’t think so"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do visitors bring about any changes in the village that is development?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen any visitors here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the activities done by women in different season and how these activities have affected a family as whole?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8984770902183612, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, I don’t think so"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do visitors bring about any changes in the village that is development?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen any visitors here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the activities done by women in different season and how these activities have affected a family as whole?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I usually come do the business after making sure all the necessary needs of the family are met, so my family is not affected in any way with what I do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "who looks after the cattle when you are not around?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.1094189891315125, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen any visitors here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the activities done by women in different season and how these activities have affected a family as whole?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I usually come do the business after making sure all the necessary needs of the family are met, so my family is not affected in any way with what I do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "who looks after the cattle when you are not around?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "my children usually look after the cattle with their wives, some take the cattle to be fed, and the remaining stay at home making sure they cook and serve the family"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about in other societies?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12157665459056936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I usually come do the business after making sure all the necessary needs of the family are met, so my family is not affected in any way with what I do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "who looks after the cattle when you are not around?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "my children usually look after the cattle with their wives, some take the cattle to be fed, and the remaining stay at home making sure they cook and serve the family"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about in other societies?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we differ so it depends on each family, some leave for a week, they make sure the necessities are available to feed the family for the whole week."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do people move to other village or do visitors come to stay?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13508517176729928, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "my children usually look after the cattle with their wives, some take the cattle to be fed, and the remaining stay at home making sure they cook and serve the family"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about in other societies?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we differ so it depends on each family, some leave for a week, they make sure the necessities are available to feed the family for the whole week."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do people move to other village or do visitors come to stay?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some leave but only for a while the families are left behind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what group of people usually moves from one area to the other oftenely?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1500946352969992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we differ so it depends on each family, some leave for a week, they make sure the necessities are available to feed the family for the whole week."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do people move to other village or do visitors come to stay?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some leave but only for a while the families are left behind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what group of people usually moves from one area to the other oftenely?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the ones who keep the cattle are the ones who move."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there people who move for good to a new area?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.16677181699666577, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "some leave but only for a while the families are left behind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what group of people usually moves from one area to the other oftenely?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the ones who keep the cattle are the ones who move."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there people who move for good to a new area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are none, but in few cases if a family is not well-off they may decide to move or maybe the head of the family has passed away the relatives may decide to move the family to another area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there people who move to other area to go study?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1853020188851842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the ones who keep the cattle are the ones who move."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there people who move for good to a new area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are none, but in few cases if a family is not well-off they may decide to move or maybe the head of the family has passed away the relatives may decide to move the family to another area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there people who move to other area to go study?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, children go to study other areas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about men?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2058911320946491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are none, but in few cases if a family is not well-off they may decide to move or maybe the head of the family has passed away the relatives may decide to move the family to another area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there people who move to other area to go study?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, children go to study other areas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "only religious people go to study to become pastors"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22876792454961012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, children go to study other areas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "only religious people go to study to become pastors"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "most women do not go in exception of a few who attend seminars"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about youth?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25418658283290013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "only religious people go to study to become pastors"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "most women do not go in exception of a few who attend seminars"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about youth?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "most youth go to study and in some cases they usually say they are going to look for jobs rather the reason for them to leave is to go study."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so they usually go and return?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28242953648100017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "most women do not go in exception of a few who attend seminars"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about youth?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "most youth go to study and in some cases they usually say they are going to look for jobs rather the reason for them to leave is to go study."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so they usually go and return?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes they do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about livestock keepers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.31381059609000017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "most youth go to study and in some cases they usually say they are going to look for jobs rather the reason for them to leave is to go study."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so they usually go and return?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes they do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about livestock keepers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "as I said earlier during dry season they usually move their cattle in search for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how have these changes affected the society when people move?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34867844010000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes they do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about livestock keepers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "as I said earlier during dry season they usually move their cattle in search for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how have these changes affected the society when people move?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen how the society is affected"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about people who come here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38742048900000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "as I said earlier during dry season they usually move their cattle in search for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how have these changes affected the society when people move?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen how the society is affected"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about people who come here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "lately I have not seen but a while ago visitors used to come, before when a woman or a girl is married and they separate with the husband they usually come visit or to stay, and some usually come to bury his husband or their parent and stay"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "for those who visit, do they change the society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen how the society is affected"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about people who come here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "lately I have not seen but a while ago visitors used to come, before when a woman or a girl is married and they separate with the husband they usually come visit or to stay, and some usually come to bury his husband or their parent and stay"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "for those who visit, do they change the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "changes are when they leave with health weakness and goes maybe after being taken good care by the family member and the weather was good in that place in that time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "lately I have not seen but a while ago visitors used to come, before when a woman or a girl is married and they separate with the husband they usually come visit or to stay, and some usually come to bury his husband or their parent and stay"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "for those who visit, do they change the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "changes are when they leave with health weakness and goes maybe after being taken good care by the family member and the weather was good in that place in that time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it depends with the family, some take boiled milk some take raw, some take roasted meat some take boiled so it depends on every family"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what changes are brought by those who go to study away from home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "changes are when they leave with health weakness and goes maybe after being taken good care by the family member and the weather was good in that place in that time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it depends with the family, some take boiled milk some take raw, some take roasted meat some take boiled so it depends on every family"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what changes are brought by those who go to study away from home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "do you mean changes of the body, habit or health?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "all changes like habit"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it depends with the family, some take boiled milk some take raw, some take roasted meat some take boiled so it depends on every family"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what changes are brought by those who go to study away from home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "do you mean changes of the body, habit or health?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "all changes like habit"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some children leave the society when they are considered they cannot cope with others but when they come back they behave well. They help the elders on the way, they greet the elders well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when children come home how do you live?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "do you mean changes of the body, habit or health?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "all changes like habit"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some children leave the society when they are considered they cannot cope with others but when they come back they behave well. They help the elders on the way, they greet the elders well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when children come home how do you live?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we live well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how do you adapt with change in number?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "some children leave the society when they are considered they cannot cope with others but when they come back they behave well. They help the elders on the way, they greet the elders well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when children come home how do you live?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we live well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how do you adapt with change in number?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we live well children become happy with presence of every member"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when people are away what changes occur in the society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we live well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how do you adapt with change in number?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we live well children become happy with presence of every member"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when people are away what changes occur in the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "when people are few in number, so the situation is not that good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we live well children become happy with presence of every member"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when people are away what changes occur in the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "when people are few in number, so the situation is not that good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "also incase of nutrition people do not eat well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there conflicts between farmers and livestock keepers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "when people are few in number, so the situation is not that good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "also incase of nutrition people do not eat well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there conflicts between farmers and livestock keepers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "lately there are no conflicts it just occurred once"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when was it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "also incase of nutrition people do not eat well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are there conflicts between farmers and livestock keepers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "lately there are no conflicts it just occurred once"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "two years ago"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there conflicts between visitors and people whore are born here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "lately there are no conflicts it just occurred once"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "two years ago"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there conflicts between visitors and people whore are born here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are none"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any conflicts which you have observed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "two years ago"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there conflicts between visitors and people whore are born here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are none"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any conflicts which you have observed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s just that one between farmers and livestock keepers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you solve such a conflict?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are none"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any conflicts which you have observed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s just that one between farmers and livestock keepers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you solve such a conflict?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The government usually intervenes and solves the conflict"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When do these conflicts occur?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s just that one between farmers and livestock keepers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you solve such a conflict?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The government usually intervenes and solves the conflict"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When do these conflicts occur?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During dry season"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What causes these conflicts?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The government usually intervenes and solves the conflict"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When do these conflicts occur?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During dry season"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What causes these conflicts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think dry season causes this; if your cattle are at home and fed well you cannot move them to another area so people’s farms are safe. Conflicts occur when the cattle feed themselves on people’s farms."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these conflicts affected livestock keepers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "During dry season"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What causes these conflicts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think dry season causes this; if your cattle are at home and fed well you cannot move them to another area so people’s farms are safe. Conflicts occur when the cattle feed themselves on people’s farms."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these conflicts affected livestock keepers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The livestock keepers are affected, conflicts are not good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the farmers"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think dry season causes this; if your cattle are at home and fed well you cannot move them to another area so people’s farms are safe. Conflicts occur when the cattle feed themselves on people’s farms."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these conflicts affected livestock keepers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The livestock keepers are affected, conflicts are not good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the farmers"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has affected both sides a lot since these conflict causes the two sides to kill each other which is not a good thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the feeding areas affected?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The livestock keepers are affected, conflicts are not good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the farmers"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has affected both sides a lot since these conflict causes the two sides to kill each other which is not a good thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the feeding areas affected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not affected"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these conflicts affected the responsibilities of men and women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not affected"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these conflicts affected the responsibilities of men and women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it has affected as you can see"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Due to the fact when people fight it’s not a good thing, it affects us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these conflicts affect the availability of food in different families?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it has affected as you can see"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Due to the fact when people fight it’s not a good thing, it affects us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these conflicts affect the availability of food in different families?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they affect a lot if the markets are within the range of areas of conflicts we cannot go there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What means do you use to avoid the conflicts?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Due to the fact when people fight it’s not a good thing, it affects us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these conflicts affect the availability of food in different families?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they affect a lot if the markets are within the range of areas of conflicts we cannot go there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What means do you use to avoid the conflicts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The government does all of the work of solving the conflicts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Am almost winding up, I only have few questions left."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they affect a lot if the markets are within the range of areas of conflicts we cannot go there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What means do you use to avoid the conflicts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The government does all of the work of solving the conflicts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Am almost winding up, I only have few questions left."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Continue"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the areas where by people learn about nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The government does all of the work of solving the conflicts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Am almost winding up, I only have few questions left."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Continue"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the areas where by people learn about nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Clinic, they teach how to feed children, we get a lot of knowledge there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the knowledge been useful to them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Continue"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the areas where by people learn about nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Clinic, they teach how to feed children, we get a lot of knowledge there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the knowledge been useful to them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When one acquires the knowledge and uses it she looks at the outcome, which is the child’s health"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any other area where they acquire the knowledge?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Clinic, they teach how to feed children, we get a lot of knowledge there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the knowledge been useful to them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When one acquires the knowledge and uses it she looks at the outcome, which is the child’s health"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any other area where they acquire the knowledge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I only know at the clinic"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have the information about food and health helped in our societies?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When one acquires the knowledge and uses it she looks at the outcome, which is the child’s health"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any other area where they acquire the knowledge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I only know at the clinic"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have the information about food and health helped in our societies?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "if you listen to what you’re told you will get the benefits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "where would you love to be taught about all these information abot nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "if you listen to what you’re told you will get the benefits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "where would you love to be taught about all these information abot nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "wherever necessary"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "anywhere"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you mean like in schools?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "wherever necessary"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "anywhere"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you mean like in schools?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we would love to"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about in church?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "anywhere"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you mean like in schools?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we would love to"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about in church?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we would love to"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and health institution?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00039:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we would love to"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and health institution?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we would love to"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "radio stations"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we would love to"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "who do you prefer to teach you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.046952088747049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are currently eating stiff porridge, vegetables, beans, meat and milk as well as rice.\n\nI mostly eat stiff porridge, this is our staple food. In the past years, we used to drink milk as our staple food and we used to eat stiff porridge only during summer season.\n\nWe really depend on stiff porridge as our staple food, we also use beans and vegetables as well as milk as part of our meals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which kind of vegetables do you always eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pigeon peas leaves and pumpkin leaves.\n\nWe also eat green gram, cassava leaves, etc.\n\nI eat stiff porridge, rice, vegetables such as pumpkin leaves, milk, fermented milk, sweet potato leaves.\n\nOur staple food is stiff porridge and the main relish during rain season is milk, but this season we have beans, pigeon peas, sweet potato leaves, amaranth leaves, meat, etc.\n\nWe normally prepare two meals per day, in the morning and evening; we eat stiff porridge and milk. We do not have lunch."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was your staple food in the past years"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our staple food was meat; we did not mix meat with other foods because we were afraid of stomach aches.\n\nAt our young ages, we did not eat stiff porridge, we had few cows but we used to eat cow blood and cow milk.\n\nAt our young ages, we used to eat cow meat, cow blood, cracked and cooked maize and milk.\n\nAt our young ages we most depended on milk and cow blood which is boiled and flavored with little salt, then it is cooled and eaten. As time passed, we started eating stiff porridge which was grounded on stones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, elaborate more on the flour grounded by stones."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.607724543052276, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pigeon peas leaves and pumpkin leaves.\n\nWe also eat green gram, cassava leaves, etc.\n\nI eat stiff porridge, rice, vegetables such as pumpkin leaves, milk, fermented milk, sweet potato leaves.\n\nOur staple food is stiff porridge and the main relish during rain season is milk, but this season we have beans, pigeon peas, sweet potato leaves, amaranth leaves, meat, etc.\n\nWe normally prepare two meals per day, in the morning and evening; we eat stiff porridge and milk. We do not have lunch."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was your staple food in the past years"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our staple food was meat; we did not mix meat with other foods because we were afraid of stomach aches.\n\nAt our young ages, we did not eat stiff porridge, we had few cows but we used to eat cow blood and cow milk.\n\nAt our young ages, we used to eat cow meat, cow blood, cracked and cooked maize and milk.\n\nAt our young ages we most depended on milk and cow blood which is boiled and flavored with little salt, then it is cooled and eaten. As time passed, we started eating stiff porridge which was grounded on stones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, elaborate more on the flour grounded by stones."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorghum seeds were prepared and grounded on stones to produce flour. This was done by women in most cases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why were you not eating stiff porridge by then?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.2308050478358625, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our staple food was meat; we did not mix meat with other foods because we were afraid of stomach aches.\n\nAt our young ages, we did not eat stiff porridge, we had few cows but we used to eat cow blood and cow milk.\n\nAt our young ages, we used to eat cow meat, cow blood, cracked and cooked maize and milk.\n\nAt our young ages we most depended on milk and cow blood which is boiled and flavored with little salt, then it is cooled and eaten. As time passed, we started eating stiff porridge which was grounded on stones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, elaborate more on the flour grounded by stones."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorghum seeds were prepared and grounded on stones to produce flour. This was done by women in most cases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why were you not eating stiff porridge by then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At our young ages, there was no enough maize, that's why we did not get much interested in eating stiff porridge.\n\nAnother reason why we did not eat stiff porridge at our young ages, it is because there were no milling machines, maize grains were crushed in the mortal and grounded on the stones, but nowadays we eat stiff porridge because there are a lot of milling machines, a lot of maize flour and everybody is able to afford."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many meals did you get to prepare in your households per day at your young age and nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.923116719817624, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorghum seeds were prepared and grounded on stones to produce flour. This was done by women in most cases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why were you not eating stiff porridge by then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At our young ages, there was no enough maize, that's why we did not get much interested in eating stiff porridge.\n\nAnother reason why we did not eat stiff porridge at our young ages, it is because there were no milling machines, maize grains were crushed in the mortal and grounded on the stones, but nowadays we eat stiff porridge because there are a lot of milling machines, a lot of maize flour and everybody is able to afford."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many meals did you get to prepare in your households per day at your young age and nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At our young ages we used to have two meals, morning meals and dinner meals, but nowadays we prepare three meals, breakfast, lunch and dinner.\n\nAt our young ages our grandfathers did not till the land and grow crops and many farmers lived far away from our homes, so we used to eat cracked and cooked maize but sometimes we cooked uncrushed maize grains because of scattered settlements.\n\nAt our young ages, most farmers practised subsistent farming and not commercial farming, we maasai people are pastoralists and not farmers or crop cultivators, for that case our food depended on livestock products and nothing else, so when we came to interact with other people from different ethnic groups, we learned to crush maize grains on the mortal, we came to know how to prepare cracked and cooked maize. At this time many people decided to practice commercial farming and we started interacting with other people and learned to eat other foods such as fish, rice, etc. This was globalization which brought us together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by globalization?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.692351910908472, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At our young ages, there was no enough maize, that's why we did not get much interested in eating stiff porridge.\n\nAnother reason why we did not eat stiff porridge at our young ages, it is because there were no milling machines, maize grains were crushed in the mortal and grounded on the stones, but nowadays we eat stiff porridge because there are a lot of milling machines, a lot of maize flour and everybody is able to afford."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many meals did you get to prepare in your households per day at your young age and nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At our young ages we used to have two meals, morning meals and dinner meals, but nowadays we prepare three meals, breakfast, lunch and dinner.\n\nAt our young ages our grandfathers did not till the land and grow crops and many farmers lived far away from our homes, so we used to eat cracked and cooked maize but sometimes we cooked uncrushed maize grains because of scattered settlements.\n\nAt our young ages, most farmers practised subsistent farming and not commercial farming, we maasai people are pastoralists and not farmers or crop cultivators, for that case our food depended on livestock products and nothing else, so when we came to interact with other people from different ethnic groups, we learned to crush maize grains on the mortal, we came to know how to prepare cracked and cooked maize. At this time many people decided to practice commercial farming and we started interacting with other people and learned to eat other foods such as fish, rice, etc. This was globalization which brought us together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by globalization?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Globalization accelerates the exposure of different issues to different people and their exact meanings, so many people changed their thinking and decided to extend their activities, and for instance most families started practicing commercial farming so as to maintain their families."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has brought changes in foods which you used to eat at your young ages and foods which you are currently eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.385619643096877, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Globalization accelerates the exposure of different issues to different people and their exact meanings, so many people changed their thinking and decided to extend their activities, and for instance most families started practicing commercial farming so as to maintain their families."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has brought changes in foods which you used to eat at your young ages and foods which you are currently eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because at our young ages we lacked diet and nutrition education, but when we came to be educated about diets and nutrition issues, we got to know the importance of different food items such as rice, maize, sorghum, vegetables, etc. If we did not get diet and nutrition education I think we would remain eating meat, cow blood and milk.\n\nMost of the maasai started going to school in 1970s-1980s, the standard seven and college students helped us much in understanding the importance of different food nutrients. Another factor is social interaction between maasai and other people from different tribes, this also enabled us to change our diets.\n\nIf it was not drought the maasai would remain eating meat, cow blood and milk, but due to drought most maasai have changed their way of eating and adapted to eat new types of foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thanks, you mentioned diet and nutrition education, provision of formal education, aridity and social interaction, what else has brought changes in your way of eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another factor is familiarity among the maasai, most maasai became familiar with new types of foods prepared by people of different tribes.\n\nWe came to be educated on what is good and bad, when we got educated and understood most of the things, we decided to put into practice.\n\nAnother factor is mobility, the tendency of shifting from one place to another, so when we shift to another place we learn new things in the new settlement area, just we came to eat many kinds of food.\n\nThe basic factor relies on educated people who went to school in 1970s, they came back to our societies and educated us more about diet and food nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the people who shift from other places to your village? What do they learn?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.31735515899653, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because at our young ages we lacked diet and nutrition education, but when we came to be educated about diets and nutrition issues, we got to know the importance of different food items such as rice, maize, sorghum, vegetables, etc. If we did not get diet and nutrition education I think we would remain eating meat, cow blood and milk.\n\nMost of the maasai started going to school in 1970s-1980s, the standard seven and college students helped us much in understanding the importance of different food nutrients. Another factor is social interaction between maasai and other people from different tribes, this also enabled us to change our diets.\n\nIf it was not drought the maasai would remain eating meat, cow blood and milk, but due to drought most maasai have changed their way of eating and adapted to eat new types of foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thanks, you mentioned diet and nutrition education, provision of formal education, aridity and social interaction, what else has brought changes in your way of eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another factor is familiarity among the maasai, most maasai became familiar with new types of foods prepared by people of different tribes.\n\nWe came to be educated on what is good and bad, when we got educated and understood most of the things, we decided to put into practice.\n\nAnother factor is mobility, the tendency of shifting from one place to another, so when we shift to another place we learn new things in the new settlement area, just we came to eat many kinds of food.\n\nThe basic factor relies on educated people who went to school in 1970s, they came back to our societies and educated us more about diet and food nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the people who shift from other places to your village? What do they learn?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They always learn to eat what we normally eat in our place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the changes which have occurred in food preparation system?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.352616843329479, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another factor is familiarity among the maasai, most maasai became familiar with new types of foods prepared by people of different tribes.\n\nWe came to be educated on what is good and bad, when we got educated and understood most of the things, we decided to put into practice.\n\nAnother factor is mobility, the tendency of shifting from one place to another, so when we shift to another place we learn new things in the new settlement area, just we came to eat many kinds of food.\n\nThe basic factor relies on educated people who went to school in 1970s, they came back to our societies and educated us more about diet and food nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the people who shift from other places to your village? What do they learn?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They always learn to eat what we normally eat in our place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the changes which have occurred in food preparation system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some changes in food preparation system, for instance nowadays food preparation has become easy unlike it was in the past years, this is because currently there are a lot of modern and improved cooking and other utensils.\n\nIn food preparation system , there are some changes, for instance at our young ages, we used to share the same milk calabash during meal time, but nowadays every person uses his/her own cup of milk during meals. When we got visitors at our young ages, we used to prepare a single pan of food for the visitors because by then there were few utensils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me the comparison which exists between food preparation / cooking at your young ages and nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 10, "return_to_go": 11.50290760369942, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They always learn to eat what we normally eat in our place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the changes which have occurred in food preparation system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some changes in food preparation system, for instance nowadays food preparation has become easy unlike it was in the past years, this is because currently there are a lot of modern and improved cooking and other utensils.\n\nIn food preparation system , there are some changes, for instance at our young ages, we used to share the same milk calabash during meal time, but nowadays every person uses his/her own cup of milk during meals. When we got visitors at our young ages, we used to prepare a single pan of food for the visitors because by then there were few utensils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me the comparison which exists between food preparation / cooking at your young ages and nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is slight difference in food preparation / cooking when you compare the two periods. In the past years there was no frying of foods between there was scarcity of required items such as cooking oil, we normally used ghee. We knew how to fry meat but not vegetables, but nowadays most of food items are fried.\n\nAt our young ages we used to prepare stiff porridge and 'kididio' as our meal. 'kididio' was boiled maize flour in water and mixed with salt. It was used with stiff porridge.\n\nAt our young ages nobody used to boil milk or drinking water but nowadays, milk and drinking water are boiled for health purpose."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among the factors you have mentioned about diet and nutrition issues, what is the first and last factor?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2906685012946495, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, tell me the importance of milk among the maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We maasai people do eat and drink milk in high quantities because it is our traditional food, if we do not get milk to drink we really feel harassed, thus milk is a very important food item to us, milk can stand alone and taken as a balanced diet.\n\nWe drink milk because it builds our bodies. Most of our children like to drink milk, sometimes they cannot eat any other food without milk and if the child does not drink milk, its stomach swells but if the child drinks only milk, the child becomes healthier. That's why we like milk very much.\n\nWe maasai people do not depend on any other oil apart from ghee which is milk product, most young kids are also fed with ghee to improve their growth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which group enjoys the role played by milk between the young children and aldermen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a group of children\n\nIf the children lack milk, they start crying, even if they have eaten other foods and become satisfied. Even for the case of elders, if you eat stiff porridge and get satisfied but if you have not taken milk, you do not feel happy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do children get milk nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4340761125496102, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We maasai people do eat and drink milk in high quantities because it is our traditional food, if we do not get milk to drink we really feel harassed, thus milk is a very important food item to us, milk can stand alone and taken as a balanced diet.\n\nWe drink milk because it builds our bodies. Most of our children like to drink milk, sometimes they cannot eat any other food without milk and if the child does not drink milk, its stomach swells but if the child drinks only milk, the child becomes healthier. That's why we like milk very much.\n\nWe maasai people do not depend on any other oil apart from ghee which is milk product, most young kids are also fed with ghee to improve their growth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which group enjoys the role played by milk between the young children and aldermen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a group of children\n\nIf the children lack milk, they start crying, even if they have eaten other foods and become satisfied. Even for the case of elders, if you eat stiff porridge and get satisfied but if you have not taken milk, you do not feel happy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do children get milk nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get milk in small quantities.\n\nSome households do not get to feed their children because they have shifted their cattle to other places, so they do not have source of milk.\n\nFor the case of maasai people, milk is a traditional and tribal food, for that case, if milk is not available for the maasai, they really feel harassed because most children experience malnutrition symptoms, they swell stomach. We always eat stiff porridge and other foods during summer or dry season but when it is rain season we depend on milk as our main food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do to ensure the availability of milk during dry season?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5934179028329003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a group of children\n\nIf the children lack milk, they start crying, even if they have eaten other foods and become satisfied. Even for the case of elders, if you eat stiff porridge and get satisfied but if you have not taken milk, you do not feel happy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do children get milk nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get milk in small quantities.\n\nSome households do not get to feed their children because they have shifted their cattle to other places, so they do not have source of milk.\n\nFor the case of maasai people, milk is a traditional and tribal food, for that case, if milk is not available for the maasai, they really feel harassed because most children experience malnutrition symptoms, they swell stomach. We always eat stiff porridge and other foods during summer or dry season but when it is rain season we depend on milk as our main food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do to ensure the availability of milk during dry season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As a father, I will move to the place where cows are grazing so as to obtain some little milk for the children.\n\nIf all cows have been shifted to other far places, then we obtain milk from goats so as to make sure our children get some milk to drink."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of cow blood/How do you use?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7704643364810002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get milk in small quantities.\n\nSome households do not get to feed their children because they have shifted their cattle to other places, so they do not have source of milk.\n\nFor the case of maasai people, milk is a traditional and tribal food, for that case, if milk is not available for the maasai, they really feel harassed because most children experience malnutrition symptoms, they swell stomach. We always eat stiff porridge and other foods during summer or dry season but when it is rain season we depend on milk as our main food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do to ensure the availability of milk during dry season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As a father, I will move to the place where cows are grazing so as to obtain some little milk for the children.\n\nIf all cows have been shifted to other far places, then we obtain milk from goats so as to make sure our children get some milk to drink."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of cow blood/How do you use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We drink and eat cow blood so as to increase blood in our bodies because when we take cow blood mixed with milk, then blood and milk enters the blood vessels directly, it does not stay in the stomach.\n\nCow blood is purposely for health issues; it improves and maintains body organs health, more especially body blood content."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At what time do you drink blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9671825960900002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As a father, I will move to the place where cows are grazing so as to obtain some little milk for the children.\n\nIf all cows have been shifted to other far places, then we obtain milk from goats so as to make sure our children get some milk to drink."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of cow blood/How do you use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We drink and eat cow blood so as to increase blood in our bodies because when we take cow blood mixed with milk, then blood and milk enters the blood vessels directly, it does not stay in the stomach.\n\nCow blood is purposely for health issues; it improves and maintains body organs health, more especially body blood content."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At what time do you drink blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we drink it soon after slaughtering the cow, it means we drink it when it is still fresh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who drinks cow blood in larger quantities between men and women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1857584401000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We drink and eat cow blood so as to increase blood in our bodies because when we take cow blood mixed with milk, then blood and milk enters the blood vessels directly, it does not stay in the stomach.\n\nCow blood is purposely for health issues; it improves and maintains body organs health, more especially body blood content."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At what time do you drink blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we drink it soon after slaughtering the cow, it means we drink it when it is still fresh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who drinks cow blood in larger quantities between men and women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is men who drink cow blood more than women. In some circumstances when a woman has shortage of body blood, then she will have to drink cow blood.\n\nWhen a person goes to the Hospital and he/she is found to have blood shortage in her body, then instead of buying human blood in the hospital, we use cow blood to increase body blood content."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, to what extent do you still use cow blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.428620489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we drink it soon after slaughtering the cow, it means we drink it when it is still fresh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who drinks cow blood in larger quantities between men and women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is men who drink cow blood more than women. In some circumstances when a woman has shortage of body blood, then she will have to drink cow blood.\n\nWhen a person goes to the Hospital and he/she is found to have blood shortage in her body, then instead of buying human blood in the hospital, we use cow blood to increase body blood content."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, to what extent do you still use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We still use cow blood though in small quantities.\n\nUse of cow blood has decreased among the maasai people.\n\nNowadays we do drink cow blood when we slaughter cows but in normal cases we use blood if a person falls sick.\n\nAmong the maasai, the aldermen have not stopped or abandoned the use of cow blood, only the youths who have gone to school are the ones who seem to have abandoned this tradition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, in which circumstances do you use cow blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.69846721, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is men who drink cow blood more than women. In some circumstances when a woman has shortage of body blood, then she will have to drink cow blood.\n\nWhen a person goes to the Hospital and he/she is found to have blood shortage in her body, then instead of buying human blood in the hospital, we use cow blood to increase body blood content."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, to what extent do you still use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We still use cow blood though in small quantities.\n\nUse of cow blood has decreased among the maasai people.\n\nNowadays we do drink cow blood when we slaughter cows but in normal cases we use blood if a person falls sick.\n\nAmong the maasai, the aldermen have not stopped or abandoned the use of cow blood, only the youths who have gone to school are the ones who seem to have abandoned this tradition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, in which circumstances do you use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cow blood is mostly used when a person loses much blood may be due to accidents, fighting or delivery among women"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you think about the habit of abandoning the use of cow blood among your sons and daughters?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9982969, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We still use cow blood though in small quantities.\n\nUse of cow blood has decreased among the maasai people.\n\nNowadays we do drink cow blood when we slaughter cows but in normal cases we use blood if a person falls sick.\n\nAmong the maasai, the aldermen have not stopped or abandoned the use of cow blood, only the youths who have gone to school are the ones who seem to have abandoned this tradition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, in which circumstances do you use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cow blood is mostly used when a person loses much blood may be due to accidents, fighting or delivery among women"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you think about the habit of abandoning the use of cow blood among your sons and daughters?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are trying to enable our sons and daughters get used and familiar to the use of cow blood.\n\nWhen they come from secondary schools, they find cow blood at home and some do drink it.\n\nSome of our school sons and daughters, when they come back from schools, we slaughter goats and prepare soup with blood, so they get forced to eat them.\n\nSome parents do try their best to educate their sons and daughters to continue eating livestock products because of their importance in human body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from accidents and baby delivery, in which circumstances do you use cow blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.331441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cow blood is mostly used when a person loses much blood may be due to accidents, fighting or delivery among women"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you think about the habit of abandoning the use of cow blood among your sons and daughters?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are trying to enable our sons and daughters get used and familiar to the use of cow blood.\n\nWhen they come from secondary schools, they find cow blood at home and some do drink it.\n\nSome of our school sons and daughters, when they come back from schools, we slaughter goats and prepare soup with blood, so they get forced to eat them.\n\nSome parents do try their best to educate their sons and daughters to continue eating livestock products because of their importance in human body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from accidents and baby delivery, in which circumstances do you use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We also use cow blood if a person falls sick or he/she has fever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent do the current youths drink cow blood compared to youths at your young ages?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.59049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are trying to enable our sons and daughters get used and familiar to the use of cow blood.\n\nWhen they come from secondary schools, they find cow blood at home and some do drink it.\n\nSome of our school sons and daughters, when they come back from schools, we slaughter goats and prepare soup with blood, so they get forced to eat them.\n\nSome parents do try their best to educate their sons and daughters to continue eating livestock products because of their importance in human body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from accidents and baby delivery, in which circumstances do you use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We also use cow blood if a person falls sick or he/she has fever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent do the current youths drink cow blood compared to youths at your young ages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The current youths do not like to use cow blood because they have adapted swahili norms, they no longer like to cling on maasai norms.\n\nSometimes when youths are taken to health centers, it may happen that he/she has shortage of body blood because most of them do not drink cow blood, we used to drink cow blood during our youth hood that's why we did not experience shortage of blood in our bodies. Moreover at our young ages, we used to drink some blood which is mixed with herbs so as to cure infections and diseases as well as to maintain body health"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else has forced the current youths to abandon drinking cow blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We also use cow blood if a person falls sick or he/she has fever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent do the current youths drink cow blood compared to youths at your young ages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The current youths do not like to use cow blood because they have adapted swahili norms, they no longer like to cling on maasai norms.\n\nSometimes when youths are taken to health centers, it may happen that he/she has shortage of body blood because most of them do not drink cow blood, we used to drink cow blood during our youth hood that's why we did not experience shortage of blood in our bodies. Moreover at our young ages, we used to drink some blood which is mixed with herbs so as to cure infections and diseases as well as to maintain body health"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else has forced the current youths to abandon drinking cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another reason is the modern education which has changed their mind set about cow blood; they claim that fresh cow blood is not good and not safe.\n\nAnother factor is penetration of Christianity religion which teaches people not to drink fresh cow blood instead they should drink Jesus Blood which saves people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, thanks. How have changes in diet and nutrition affected the maasai tribe?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The current youths do not like to use cow blood because they have adapted swahili norms, they no longer like to cling on maasai norms.\n\nSometimes when youths are taken to health centers, it may happen that he/she has shortage of body blood because most of them do not drink cow blood, we used to drink cow blood during our youth hood that's why we did not experience shortage of blood in our bodies. Moreover at our young ages, we used to drink some blood which is mixed with herbs so as to cure infections and diseases as well as to maintain body health"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else has forced the current youths to abandon drinking cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another reason is the modern education which has changed their mind set about cow blood; they claim that fresh cow blood is not good and not safe.\n\nAnother factor is penetration of Christianity religion which teaches people not to drink fresh cow blood instead they should drink Jesus Blood which saves people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, thanks. How have changes in diet and nutrition affected the maasai tribe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The changes in diet and nutrition system has not affected much the maasai tribe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience land conflicts between livestocks keepers and crop cultivation in Mela?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another reason is the modern education which has changed their mind set about cow blood; they claim that fresh cow blood is not good and not safe.\n\nAnother factor is penetration of Christianity religion which teaches people not to drink fresh cow blood instead they should drink Jesus Blood which saves people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, thanks. How have changes in diet and nutrition affected the maasai tribe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The changes in diet and nutrition system has not affected much the maasai tribe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience land conflicts between livestocks keepers and crop cultivation in Mela?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we have not experienced such kind of conflicts in Mela because we try to understand each other or sometimes if cows do invade farms and consume some crops, we just settle the situation as quickly as possible and continue with our lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can you live without such kind of conflicts while there is more than one tribe here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The changes in diet and nutrition system has not affected much the maasai tribe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience land conflicts between livestocks keepers and crop cultivation in Mela?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we have not experienced such kind of conflicts in Mela because we try to understand each other or sometimes if cows do invade farms and consume some crops, we just settle the situation as quickly as possible and continue with our lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can you live without such kind of conflicts while there is more than one tribe here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have witnessed some fatal conflicts in other villages due to livestock invasion in crop farms, we do not like such kind of conflicts to happen in our area, we also try our best to maintain and keep good relationship and neighborhood among us, and we help each other in different circumstances.\n\nMoreover there is leadership for the group of livestock keepers and crop cultivators, so the leaders from both groups try their best to educate and caution their people about land conflicts, most of us understand this and thus we avoid unnecessary conflicts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which year did you experience conflicts between livestock keepers and crop cultivators in Mela?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we have not experienced such kind of conflicts in Mela because we try to understand each other or sometimes if cows do invade farms and consume some crops, we just settle the situation as quickly as possible and continue with our lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can you live without such kind of conflicts while there is more than one tribe here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have witnessed some fatal conflicts in other villages due to livestock invasion in crop farms, we do not like such kind of conflicts to happen in our area, we also try our best to maintain and keep good relationship and neighborhood among us, and we help each other in different circumstances.\n\nMoreover there is leadership for the group of livestock keepers and crop cultivators, so the leaders from both groups try their best to educate and caution their people about land conflicts, most of us understand this and thus we avoid unnecessary conflicts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which year did you experience conflicts between livestock keepers and crop cultivators in Mela?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have never experience land conflicts between livestock keepers and crop cultivators in Mela."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get education about diet, nutrition and health issues in this community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have witnessed some fatal conflicts in other villages due to livestock invasion in crop farms, we do not like such kind of conflicts to happen in our area, we also try our best to maintain and keep good relationship and neighborhood among us, and we help each other in different circumstances.\n\nMoreover there is leadership for the group of livestock keepers and crop cultivators, so the leaders from both groups try their best to educate and caution their people about land conflicts, most of us understand this and thus we avoid unnecessary conflicts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which year did you experience conflicts between livestock keepers and crop cultivators in Mela?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have never experience land conflicts between livestock keepers and crop cultivators in Mela."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get education about diet, nutrition and health issues in this community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have got education about diet and health through seminars and trainings which are offered to our homes, this education is provided by certain organization.\n\nSometimes we get education about diet and health issues from SUA experts; they visit us to our homes and conduct such seminars and trainings. We also have PERAM organization which also provides such kind of education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who else provides education to you apart from SUA and PERAM experts?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have never experience land conflicts between livestock keepers and crop cultivators in Mela."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get education about diet, nutrition and health issues in this community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have got education about diet and health through seminars and trainings which are offered to our homes, this education is provided by certain organization.\n\nSometimes we get education about diet and health issues from SUA experts; they visit us to our homes and conduct such seminars and trainings. We also have PERAM organization which also provides such kind of education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who else provides education to you apart from SUA and PERAM experts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We also get education from our fellow neighours who have been trained to do so from other organizations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do women get diet and nutrition education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have got education about diet and health through seminars and trainings which are offered to our homes, this education is provided by certain organization.\n\nSometimes we get education about diet and health issues from SUA experts; they visit us to our homes and conduct such seminars and trainings. We also have PERAM organization which also provides such kind of education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who else provides education to you apart from SUA and PERAM experts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We also get education from our fellow neighours who have been trained to do so from other organizations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do women get diet and nutrition education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They also get from the people we have mentioned above and from the clinic for maternal and child care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the impact of diet and nutrition education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We also get education from our fellow neighours who have been trained to do so from other organizations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do women get diet and nutrition education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They also get from the people we have mentioned above and from the clinic for maternal and child care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the impact of diet and nutrition education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Provision of diet and nutrition education is very good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How should it be provided?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They also get from the people we have mentioned above and from the clinic for maternal and child care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the impact of diet and nutrition education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Provision of diet and nutrition education is very good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How should it be provided?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it should be provided continuously so as to maintain understanding among the people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times do you want to get this education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Provision of diet and nutrition education is very good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How should it be provided?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it should be provided continuously so as to maintain understanding among the people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times do you want to get this education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We should get it at least twice a year.\n\nWe should get it at least four times a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where should it be provided? Through churches, schools, magazines, mosques, etc."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it should be provided continuously so as to maintain understanding among the people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times do you want to get this education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We should get it at least twice a year.\n\nWe should get it at least four times a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where should it be provided? Through churches, schools, magazines, mosques, etc."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It should be provided through households, they can create a schedule, for instance they can create groups of four households and provide education to them, this will make it easy for the people to understand it and get access to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from house to house method, where else should this education be provided?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We should get it at least twice a year.\n\nWe should get it at least four times a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where should it be provided? Through churches, schools, magazines, mosques, etc."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It should be provided through households, they can create a schedule, for instance they can create groups of four households and provide education to them, this will make it easy for the people to understand it and get access to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from house to house method, where else should this education be provided?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The diet and nutrition experts should collaborate with our educated youths in this village so as to simplify the provision of this education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means should they apply in providing this education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00013:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It should be provided through households, they can create a schedule, for instance they can create groups of four households and provide education to them, this will make it easy for the people to understand it and get access to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from house to house method, where else should this education be provided?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The diet and nutrition experts should collaborate with our educated youths in this village so as to simplify the provision of this education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means should they apply in providing this education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They should use brochures.\n\nThey can also use general meetings and gatherings\n\nThey should use general meetings to deliver this education because it involves oral teaching."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any other additional views?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.524442763673491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aridity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the rain scarcity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is caused this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I t is because of cutting tree and extreme sun during the summer time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is deference between the past summer time and the present one"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.027158626303879, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the rain scarcity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is caused this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I t is because of cutting tree and extreme sun during the summer time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is deference between the past summer time and the present one"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of clearing forest for cultivation, the rain has tremendously decreased"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you started specifically experiencing the extreme sun"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.58573180700431, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I t is because of cutting tree and extreme sun during the summer time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is deference between the past summer time and the present one"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of clearing forest for cultivation, the rain has tremendously decreased"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you started specifically experiencing the extreme sun"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like three years ago"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from aridity what else caused the food change"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.661397292597913, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like three years ago"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from aridity what else caused the food change"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Maasai are eating stiff porridge and fish now, this is because of interaction with Zigua"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I t is because of the food availability and the income, we can now eat chips because of that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by food availability?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3103670278986577, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I t is because of the food availability and the income, we can now eat chips because of that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by food availability?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because there are a lot of food available both food from the forest and food in the shops, you can buy NGOGWE"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mmh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also, the income contributes to that you can buy fish for 200Tsh, African eggplant for 300Tsh, tomatoes for 100Tsh and you will bring home for cooking"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why the income has changed now"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4559633643318417, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because there are a lot of food available both food from the forest and food in the shops, you can buy NGOGWE"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mmh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also, the income contributes to that you can buy fish for 200Tsh, African eggplant for 300Tsh, tomatoes for 100Tsh and you will bring home for cooking"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why the income has changed now"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I t is because of the farming and also the interaction with other people, this brings development as we exchanged activities and we get money, there are a lot of activities"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what else? What about school issue?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.617737071479824, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also, the income contributes to that you can buy fish for 200Tsh, African eggplant for 300Tsh, tomatoes for 100Tsh and you will bring home for cooking"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why the income has changed now"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I t is because of the farming and also the interaction with other people, this brings development as we exchanged activities and we get money, there are a lot of activities"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what else? What about school issue?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because when they go to school and town they learn when they come home they implement what they saw"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is that specifically, what are the changes when they come back home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8860951499750914, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because when they go to school and town they learn when they come home they implement what they saw"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is that specifically, what are the changes when they come back home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they go there they usually see other people eating chicken fish and other food so when they come back they also do that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even the local school we have contribute to that, they saw people eating tea with Mandazi, so when they come back they do the same"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the changes of customs and tradition? I mean for instance when a woman gave birth they used to slaughter cow and her well with that food, I mean that"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9845501666389904, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they go there they usually see other people eating chicken fish and other food so when they come back they also do that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even the local school we have contribute to that, they saw people eating tea with Mandazi, so when they come back they do the same"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the changes of customs and tradition? I mean for instance when a woman gave birth they used to slaughter cow and her well with that food, I mean that"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they go to school they change the way they dress they don’t dress as in our tradition"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what are the activities that were used to be performed by the women but now men"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0939446295988782, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even the local school we have contribute to that, they saw people eating tea with Mandazi, so when they come back they do the same"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the changes of customs and tradition? I mean for instance when a woman gave birth they used to slaughter cow and her well with that food, I mean that"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they go to school they change the way they dress they don’t dress as in our tradition"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what are the activities that were used to be performed by the women but now men"}, {"role": "user", "content": "when the women are not around we do cooking activities, we wash clothes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what other activities"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2154940328876425, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they go to school they change the way they dress they don’t dress as in our tradition"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what are the activities that were used to be performed by the women but now men"}, {"role": "user", "content": "when the women are not around we do cooking activities, we wash clothes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what other activities"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were not cultivating but they do now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How that is contributed to food change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3505489254307137, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "when the women are not around we do cooking activities, we wash clothes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what other activities"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were not cultivating but they do now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How that is contributed to food change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We normally finish weeding early than in the past,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think you didn’t get me well I mean how these changes have led to food change, The Masai women now go to the market and do petty business, they get money, what they do with that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5006099171452374, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were not cultivating but they do now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How that is contributed to food change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We normally finish weeding early than in the past,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think you didn’t get me well I mean how these changes have led to food change, The Masai women now go to the market and do petty business, they get money, what they do with that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(QUITE-They didn’t respond on that)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of foods that are available and consumed much?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6673443523835971, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We normally finish weeding early than in the past,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think you didn’t get me well I mean how these changes have led to food change, The Masai women now go to the market and do petty business, they get money, what they do with that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(QUITE-They didn’t respond on that)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of foods that are available and consumed much?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is stiff porridge, in this season we eat mostly meat, sardines, milk, fish and beans"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about its availability, did this contributed for these foods to be consumed more"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8526048359817746, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "(QUITE-They didn’t respond on that)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of foods that are available and consumed much?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is stiff porridge, in this season we eat mostly meat, sardines, milk, fish and beans"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about its availability, did this contributed for these foods to be consumed more"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This made us to change, in the afternoon we eat stiff porridge while in the evening we eat rice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the availability of energy (Charcoal and firewood) has contributed to food change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9473387066464162, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is stiff porridge, in this season we eat mostly meat, sardines, milk, fish and beans"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about its availability, did this contributed for these foods to be consumed more"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This made us to change, in the afternoon we eat stiff porridge while in the evening we eat rice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the availability of energy (Charcoal and firewood) has contributed to food change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Masai use firewood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Zigua?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0525985629404624, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This made us to change, in the afternoon we eat stiff porridge while in the evening we eat rice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the availability of energy (Charcoal and firewood) has contributed to food change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Masai use firewood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Zigua?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past they were using the firewood but now they changed to charcoal because of problem in firewoo d availability"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How that is contributed to food change"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.169553958822736, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Masai use firewood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Zigua?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past they were using the firewood but now they changed to charcoal because of problem in firewoo d availability"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How that is contributed to food change"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is changed because, you choose what to cook that is why they are not cooking beans and they cook sardines instead"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else? What about the price"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2995043986919288, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past they were using the firewood but now they changed to charcoal because of problem in firewoo d availability"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How that is contributed to food change"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is changed because, you choose what to cook that is why they are not cooking beans and they cook sardines instead"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else? What about the price"}, {"role": "user", "content": "T his has an impact because you don’t eat much because of that, if you don’t have enough funds you are supposed to buy flour which is not expensive. However, this time the flour is very expensive compared to rice. Hence people are not consuming much that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh, what about food stereotyping, what food can lead to stereotype?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4438937763243653, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is changed because, you choose what to cook that is why they are not cooking beans and they cook sardines instead"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else? What about the price"}, {"role": "user", "content": "T his has an impact because you don’t eat much because of that, if you don’t have enough funds you are supposed to buy flour which is not expensive. However, this time the flour is very expensive compared to rice. Hence people are not consuming much that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh, what about food stereotyping, what food can lead to stereotype?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like alcohol,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made Masai to eat pork meat, fish?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6043264181381838, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "T his has an impact because you don’t eat much because of that, if you don’t have enough funds you are supposed to buy flour which is not expensive. However, this time the flour is very expensive compared to rice. Hence people are not consuming much that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh, what about food stereotyping, what food can lead to stereotype?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like alcohol,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made Masai to eat pork meat, fish?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the few cow\n\nAlso, now Maasai are not eating meat now when they go to the village they eat vegetable with stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the foods that were considered to be of high social status in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7825849090424264, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like alcohol,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made Masai to eat pork meat, fish?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the few cow\n\nAlso, now Maasai are not eating meat now when they go to the village they eat vegetable with stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the foods that were considered to be of high social status in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Meat and the blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about now"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9806498989360293, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the few cow\n\nAlso, now Maasai are not eating meat now when they go to the village they eat vegetable with stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the foods that were considered to be of high social status in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Meat and the blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about now"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not very common."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are a lot of reasons that contribute to this change. We mentioned aridity, availability. Let’s now go back to food preparation before arranging these reasons.\n\nWhat has cause the changes in preparation of food"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2007221099289214, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Meat and the blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about now"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not very common."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are a lot of reasons that contribute to this change. We mentioned aridity, availability. Let’s now go back to food preparation before arranging these reasons.\n\nWhat has cause the changes in preparation of food"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to grill but now we are using coconut, tomatoes, curry and other spices"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made people to do that"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3712618641097794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to grill but now we are using coconut, tomatoes, curry and other spices"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made people to do that"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the people who are coming from other places to Kibaya"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It because of the industry like Bakhresa industries brings the cooked food, also milk and other food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you store the milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4125131823441993, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the people who are coming from other places to Kibaya"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It because of the industry like Bakhresa industries brings the cooked food, also milk and other food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you store the milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used the pot but now we use the plastic bucket"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Wazigua?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4583479803824437, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It because of the industry like Bakhresa industries brings the cooked food, also milk and other food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you store the milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used the pot but now we use the plastic bucket"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Wazigua?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To our side we used to boil"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned so many issues causing food change like aridity, interaction, school issues, also moving to other places, the industries, traditions, so among all these what contributed much to this change"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5092755337582707, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used the pot but now we use the plastic bucket"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Wazigua?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To our side we used to boil"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned so many issues causing food change like aridity, interaction, school issues, also moving to other places, the industries, traditions, so among all these what contributed much to this change"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I t is aridity because this force people to move away,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which one is the first between interaction and the aridity"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5658617041758564, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To our side we used to boil"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned so many issues causing food change like aridity, interaction, school issues, also moving to other places, the industries, traditions, so among all these what contributed much to this change"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I t is aridity because this force people to move away,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which one is the first between interaction and the aridity"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first one is the interaction"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the second one, please which one is supposed to be the first between aridity and interaction?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6287352268620626, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I t is aridity because this force people to move away,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which one is the first between interaction and the aridity"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first one is the interaction"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the second one, please which one is supposed to be the first between aridity and interaction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is aridity because it makes people to move away?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we agree"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6985946965134029, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first one is the interaction"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the second one, please which one is supposed to be the first between aridity and interaction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is aridity because it makes people to move away?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we agree"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Y es"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The second one?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7762163294593365, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is aridity because it makes people to move away?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we agree"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Y es"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The second one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is interaction"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "T he third one?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8624625882881516, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Y es"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The second one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is interaction"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "T he third one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "School because people interact, and they learn what is cooked in town"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others, your colleague has said school"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9582917647646129, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is interaction"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "T he third one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "School because people interact, and they learn what is cooked in town"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others, your colleague has said school"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the third one should be food availability, this contribute to food change"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has contributed less among these reasons you have mentioned"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0647686275162365, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "School because people interact, and they learn what is cooked in town"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others, your colleague has said school"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the third one should be food availability, this contribute to food change"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has contributed less among these reasons you have mentioned"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The market has contributed much not less as people come and sell their product"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What contributed less?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3145291697731314, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The market has contributed much not less as people come and sell their product"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What contributed less?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tradition and customer"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I It is because there are things we used to do, Example we used to slaughter the goats and the intestines we used to wear it in the head but now we don’t do that because this is dirty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have now put all these here what are most reasons contributing to the change?\n\nDo you Masai used to eat vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4605879664145904, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tradition and customer"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I It is because there are things we used to do, Example we used to slaughter the goats and the intestines we used to wear it in the head but now we don’t do that because this is dirty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have now put all these here what are most reasons contributing to the change?\n\nDo you Masai used to eat vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So between availability and interaction what is contributing most"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8031950202649263, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So between availability and interaction what is contributing most"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first one is interaction"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "then"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the food availability"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is number four? Between school, income, agriculture development, industries and price"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0035500225165848, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first one is interaction"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "then"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the food availability"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is number four? Between school, income, agriculture development, industries and price"}, {"role": "user", "content": "quite"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "who can lead the discussion"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25129632409454933, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "quite"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "who can lead the discussion"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number four is the increase of the income because we don’t have the same income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number five is the being exposed to other communities because when you go to Arusha or Korogwe you learn new things"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "we are not yet to complete?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.27921813788283256, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number four is the increase of the income because we don’t have the same income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number five is the being exposed to other communities because when you go to Arusha or Korogwe you learn new things"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "we are not yet to complete?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number six is agriculture because even if you want to go to school you must eat first"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We still have other reasons"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3102423754253695, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number five is the being exposed to other communities because when you go to Arusha or Korogwe you learn new things"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "we are not yet to complete?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number six is agriculture because even if you want to go to school you must eat first"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We still have other reasons"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number seven, is school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "M hh we still have other reasons"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34471375047263275, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number six is agriculture because even if you want to go to school you must eat first"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We still have other reasons"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number seven, is school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "M hh we still have other reasons"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think number eight is industries because the price depends on food manufacturing in industries, the industries can lead to raise the price or decrease"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay let’s continue"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4255725314476947, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think number eight is industries because the price depends on food manufacturing in industries, the industries can lead to raise the price or decrease"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay let’s continue"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Price Changes is number nine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number ten is the roles that people have in society\n\nThe last one is customers and tradition, these have changed a lot in clothing the way people dress, the way they great and it is due to interaction with other tribes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now we have seen the reasons that you have arranged from one to ten, which are three reasons that contributed most and which have less contribution"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4728583682752163, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Price Changes is number nine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number ten is the roles that people have in society\n\nThe last one is customers and tradition, these have changed a lot in clothing the way people dress, the way they great and it is due to interaction with other tribes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now we have seen the reasons that you have arranged from one to ten, which are three reasons that contributed most and which have less contribution"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The major one is aridity, interaction of societies and food availability"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "which has less contribution ?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5253981869724625, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number ten is the roles that people have in society\n\nThe last one is customers and tradition, these have changed a lot in clothing the way people dress, the way they great and it is due to interaction with other tribes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now we have seen the reasons that you have arranged from one to ten, which are three reasons that contributed most and which have less contribution"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The major one is aridity, interaction of societies and food availability"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "which has less contribution ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The roles/responsibilities and food price"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk to you all"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5837757633027362, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The major one is aridity, interaction of societies and food availability"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "which has less contribution ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The roles/responsibilities and food price"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk to you all"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They make the body healthier it is not like the stiff porridge you can drink a milk for a day without feeling hungry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is another reason for drink milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7207108188922668, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They make the body healthier it is not like the stiff porridge you can drink a milk for a day without feeling hungry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is another reason for drink milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not if you have inhaled a lot of dust when you drink milk will contribute to reduce the among of dust in the body"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good because it helps to detoxify the body if somebody is drunken\n\nThe fresh milk is good for the children, but the sour milk is not very good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the importance of milk in the past and now days?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8897664430768726, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good because it helps to detoxify the body if somebody is drunken\n\nThe fresh milk is good for the children, but the sour milk is not very good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the importance of milk in the past and now days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I n the past people were going to the forest and eat meat for a long time but when they come back to the village they drink sour milk, But now the Maasai don’t go to forest to eat the meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The difference is that in the past people used to milk the cow but now after milking they mix with water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about its importance now"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0984770902183612, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The difference is that in the past people used to milk the cow but now after milking they mix with water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about its importance now"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is less important than before because people are mixing with water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The business has contributed to this, because when you sell to food vendors they tend to mix with water\n\nThe milk now is not good because in the past the pasture was greener compared to now, also there were no diseases and also the cow were not drinking water contaminated with salt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, I think you have not understood. I want you to tell me the importance of drinking milk and also the drinking trends is decreased or increased?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12157665459056936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The business has contributed to this, because when you sell to food vendors they tend to mix with water\n\nThe milk now is not good because in the past the pasture was greener compared to now, also there were no diseases and also the cow were not drinking water contaminated with salt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, I think you have not understood. I want you to tell me the importance of drinking milk and also the drinking trends is decreased or increased?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still important, but the availability is a problem. You might find you have fifty cows but you can’t get even ten bucket."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "T he problems is that we don’t have money to buy milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, let talk about the cow blood use, how about its consumption?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13508517176729928, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still important, but the availability is a problem. You might find you have fifty cows but you can’t get even ten bucket."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "T he problems is that we don’t have money to buy milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, let talk about the cow blood use, how about its consumption?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We still eat, mostly the women who have given the birth, also men drinks when they are sick. We take it from the animal of hitting the cow with an arrow in the neck. Then we mix the blood with milk and drink,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of cow"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.16677181699666577, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We still eat, mostly the women who have given the birth, also men drinks when they are sick. We take it from the animal of hitting the cow with an arrow in the neck. Then we mix the blood with milk and drink,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of cow"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The big cows except the BULL"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why that"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t take from the bull because they are the ones who are used during farming activities, we learn this from our parents"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you boil the blood"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1853020188851842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The big cows except the BULL"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why that"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t take from the bull because they are the ones who are used during farming activities, we learn this from our parents"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you boil the blood"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in previous but not now because, Maasai were not selling the cow but now they sell frequently. So, there are no cows that they could use for that reason of taking the blood. If there are no cows at home, you can go to your neighbour. Also before taking blood you must make sure that the cow is healthier"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How the diseases are affecting the human"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2058911320946491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t take from the bull because they are the ones who are used during farming activities, we learn this from our parents"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you boil the blood"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in previous but not now because, Maasai were not selling the cow but now they sell frequently. So, there are no cows that they could use for that reason of taking the blood. If there are no cows at home, you can go to your neighbour. Also before taking blood you must make sure that the cow is healthier"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How the diseases are affecting the human"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you eat you get those diseases. To avoid that we boil the meat three times, also others are dried up"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have talked about food change, how the food changes in societies affecting the people. For example do Maasai eat the sardines or fish?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22876792454961012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in previous but not now because, Maasai were not selling the cow but now they sell frequently. So, there are no cows that they could use for that reason of taking the blood. If there are no cows at home, you can go to your neighbour. Also before taking blood you must make sure that the cow is healthier"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How the diseases are affecting the human"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you eat you get those diseases. To avoid that we boil the meat three times, also others are dried up"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have talked about food change, how the food changes in societies affecting the people. For example do Maasai eat the sardines or fish?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It positively affects the community as the way we interact we get various food, for instance in the past Maasai were not eating the cow which is sick buy not if the cow is sick they slaughter it. So these are the development"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh another one"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25418658283290013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you eat you get those diseases. To avoid that we boil the meat three times, also others are dried up"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have talked about food change, how the food changes in societies affecting the people. For example do Maasai eat the sardines or fish?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It positively affects the community as the way we interact we get various food, for instance in the past Maasai were not eating the cow which is sick buy not if the cow is sick they slaughter it. So these are the development"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh another one"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The interaction made the community to change by sharing the food, they eat in the hotel, and they eat chicken"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You eat fish but you don’t take it home? why"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28242953648100017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It positively affects the community as the way we interact we get various food, for instance in the past Maasai were not eating the cow which is sick buy not if the cow is sick they slaughter it. So these are the development"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh another one"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The interaction made the community to change by sharing the food, they eat in the hotel, and they eat chicken"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You eat fish but you don’t take it home? why"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t do that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The last section is about food selection: What criteria which you are using to choose the food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34867844010000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t do that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The last section is about food selection: What criteria which you are using to choose the food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is just your desire, you eat what you want"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The income you are getting also contribute to what you have to eat. Example you can buy a soda but if you don’t have money you cannot buy it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What contribute you to eat fish?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38742048900000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is just your desire, you eat what you want"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The income you are getting also contribute to what you have to eat. Example you can buy a soda but if you don’t have money you cannot buy it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What contribute you to eat fish?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The money you have and the imitation from others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else? what about the test/flavour"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The income you are getting also contribute to what you have to eat. Example you can buy a soda but if you don’t have money you cannot buy it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What contribute you to eat fish?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The money you have and the imitation from others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else? what about the test/flavour"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it also contributes you to enjoy after eating"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about food availability?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The money you have and the imitation from others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else? what about the test/flavour"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it also contributes you to enjoy after eating"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about food availability?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you are hungry you have to eat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, I just want us to arrange which first one between these reasons"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it also contributes you to enjoy after eating"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about food availability?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you are hungry you have to eat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, I just want us to arrange which first one between these reasons"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number one is hungry you can eat and pay later if you don’t have money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh the second one"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you are hungry you have to eat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, I just want us to arrange which first one between these reasons"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number one is hungry you can eat and pay later if you don’t have money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh the second one"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The desire of eating certain food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "(They are discussing and starting again to arrange)"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number one is hungry you can eat and pay later if you don’t have money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh the second one"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The desire of eating certain food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "(They are discussing and starting again to arrange)"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The second one is money and the third one what somebody needs/desire for a certain food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "T The last section: I would like to know school is affecting the community activities"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The desire of eating certain food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "(They are discussing and starting again to arrange)"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The second one is money and the third one what somebody needs/desire for a certain food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "T The last section: I would like to know school is affecting the community activities"}, {"role": "user", "content": "T he educated Masai they never go back to engage with animal keeping"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh, what about Zigua?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The second one is money and the third one what somebody needs/desire for a certain food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "T The last section: I would like to know school is affecting the community activities"}, {"role": "user", "content": "T he educated Masai they never go back to engage with animal keeping"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh, what about Zigua?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t engage with keeping the animal, they consider that is the work of those people who are not educated, most of them they go to town looking for job in garage, they ride motorcycle,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the women"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "T he educated Masai they never go back to engage with animal keeping"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh, what about Zigua?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t engage with keeping the animal, they consider that is the work of those people who are not educated, most of them they go to town looking for job in garage, they ride motorcycle,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the women"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do the same as washing dishes etc"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you learn about the nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t engage with keeping the animal, they consider that is the work of those people who are not educated, most of them they go to town looking for job in garage, they ride motorcycle,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the women"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do the same as washing dishes etc"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you learn about the nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Masai"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our fathers teach us, we go to forest eat the meat and becomes healthier, these event is called OLBURU. this can comprise like 20 people who mostly are youth\n\nAlso in the groups,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I n the hotel we order food that we want"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We learn from friends in the street"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is this information helping you to choose what kind of food you want"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I n the hotel we order food that we want"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We learn from friends in the street"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is this information helping you to choose what kind of food you want"}, {"role": "user", "content": "......"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think information on nutrition is important, how can that help?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We learn from friends in the street"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is this information helping you to choose what kind of food you want"}, {"role": "user", "content": "......"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think information on nutrition is important, how can that help?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because people eats chips which is not helpful in the body at all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we teach/impart this knowledge to the youth?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00009:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "......"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think information on nutrition is important, how can that help?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because people eats chips which is not helpful in the body at all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we teach/impart this knowledge to the youth?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education in the classes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we deliver this education"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.652589964245086, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you can tell me about yourself, how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am an old man of 51 years now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "51?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what’s your qualification?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.391766626938985, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am an old man of 51 years now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "51?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what’s your qualification?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I hold advanced diploma in medical education, am a health tutor by training. I also have a diploma in clinical medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok\n\nso, where did you qualify from, where was your training done?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.6565020085666475, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I hold advanced diploma in medical education, am a health tutor by training. I also have a diploma in clinical medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok\n\nso, where did you qualify from, where was your training done?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the initial training was in Gulu for clinical medicine and then for medical education, being a tutor was in Mulago"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mulago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok how long ago were you qualified?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.748767911810675, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok how long ago were you qualified?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For Makerere University, that was around 2003"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, that’s when I got my diploma in medical education"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and for clinical medicine?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.27640879090075, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For Makerere University, that was around 2003"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, that’s when I got my diploma in medical education"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and for clinical medicine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "clinical medicine was way back in 1994, I think you were not yet born... laughs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "no, I was already born, I guess I was around 4 years... laughs"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 5.862676434334166, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, that’s when I got my diploma in medical education"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and for clinical medicine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "clinical medicine was way back in 1994, I think you were not yet born... laughs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "no, I was already born, I guess I was around 4 years... laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that was when I qualified"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and how long have you been working here in LRRH?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9585293714824072, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "clinical medicine was way back in 1994, I think you were not yet born... laughs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "no, I was already born, I guess I was around 4 years... laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that was when I qualified"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and how long have you been working here in LRRH?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in lira regional referral hospital I was transferred to lira in 2004 January from Soroti hospital where I served for 10 years ? Laughs Ok meaning here you have been for more than...\n\nlike 14 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "14 years? Ok quite a long time"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0650326349804524, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that was when I qualified"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and how long have you been working here in LRRH?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in lira regional referral hospital I was transferred to lira in 2004 January from Soroti hospital where I served for 10 years ? Laughs Ok meaning here you have been for more than...\n\nlike 14 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "14 years? Ok quite a long time"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes iam actually among the oldest people around"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs... so which kind of patients do you usually see? Which are the commonest illnesses that you meet in your day today work? m... since iam not a specialist, we attend to all sorts of patients that we have around this region ranging from malaria, pneumonia and tuberculosis, diarrheal diseases, STIs, the rheumatic fever we are talking about, suspected cases and others, quite many, including injuries...\n\nAccidents..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.183369594422725, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "in lira regional referral hospital I was transferred to lira in 2004 January from Soroti hospital where I served for 10 years ? Laughs Ok meaning here you have been for more than...\n\nlike 14 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "14 years? Ok quite a long time"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes iam actually among the oldest people around"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs... so which kind of patients do you usually see? Which are the commonest illnesses that you meet in your day today work? m... since iam not a specialist, we attend to all sorts of patients that we have around this region ranging from malaria, pneumonia and tuberculosis, diarrheal diseases, STIs, the rheumatic fever we are talking about, suspected cases and others, quite many, including injuries...\n\nAccidents..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "accidents"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you see like a specific age group or you cut across"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3498390054601542, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "accidents"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you see like a specific age group or you cut across"}, {"role": "user", "content": "as I had said that iam not a specialist, we keep rotating"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "today you are attending to children, or this month you are attending to children, the other time you are attending to women, you can go to male, like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok...so you kind of meet every group?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.388710006066838, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "as I had said that iam not a specialist, we keep rotating"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "today you are attending to children, or this month you are attending to children, the other time you are attending to women, you can go to male, like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok...so you kind of meet every group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "you meet all sorts of patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok ...so during your school time, did you receive any specific training on rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4319000067409311, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "today you are attending to children, or this month you are attending to children, the other time you are attending to women, you can go to male, like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok...so you kind of meet every group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "you meet all sorts of patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok ...so during your school time, did you receive any specific training on rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, within the training, you know the training is broad\n\nand it’s supposed to cover everything, and of course rheumatic heart disease, ok let’s say rheumatic fever, start from rheumatic fever of course rheumatic heart disease will now come in as a complication of... streptococcal bacterial infection, so all those bacterial infections were covered"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok and then you are aware of the link between sore throat and rheumatic heart disease right"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4798888963788123, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "you meet all sorts of patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok ...so during your school time, did you receive any specific training on rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, within the training, you know the training is broad\n\nand it’s supposed to cover everything, and of course rheumatic heart disease, ok let’s say rheumatic fever, start from rheumatic fever of course rheumatic heart disease will now come in as a complication of... streptococcal bacterial infection, so all those bacterial infections were covered"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok and then you are aware of the link between sore throat and rheumatic heart disease right"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do you know about it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6582838084757371, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I know the sore throat is a step... a beta hemolytic streptococcal infection which is more common around the throat...although not only throat, even on the skin of the patient, it can affect any part of the body. But when it attacks the throat and the patient develops antibodies against the infections, and then the antibodies will clear the bacterial infection, but as time goes on the body will recognize the antibodies it had produced as foreign again it begins reacting to the antibodies it had produced against the beta hemolytic streptococcal infection so, it is the antigen antibody reaction then which becomes a problem not only in the heart it can be in the brain, can be in the heart, can be at the joints it can be in the kidneys, those target organs, and if it affects the heart then we have rheumatic heart disease, when it is the joints then we have rheumatic arthritis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "wow"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that’s what I still remember when it’s in the brain then many of our patients present with rheumatic fever disease, they present with symptoms related to rheumatic fevers\n\nyes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok, let’s move a bit aback, I mean slightly, other than the training you received from school, did you receive any other trainings on rheumatic heart disease since graduation?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7314264538619301, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "wow"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that’s what I still remember when it’s in the brain then many of our patients present with rheumatic fever disease, they present with symptoms related to rheumatic fevers\n\nyes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok, let’s move a bit aback, I mean slightly, other than the training you received from school, did you receive any other trainings on rheumatic heart disease since graduation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, I told you, iam a teacher, I am a health tutor by training, so being a health tutor by training, I teach, and because I am teaching medicine, I am a teacher of medicine, because iam teaching my students then I would say I am training, I am being trained time and again, all yearly, those we shall have to cover..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you keep yourself updated all the time"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.812696059846589, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that’s what I still remember when it’s in the brain then many of our patients present with rheumatic fever disease, they present with symptoms related to rheumatic fevers\n\nyes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok, let’s move a bit aback, I mean slightly, other than the training you received from school, did you receive any other trainings on rheumatic heart disease since graduation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, I told you, iam a teacher, I am a health tutor by training, so being a health tutor by training, I teach, and because I am teaching medicine, I am a teacher of medicine, because iam teaching my students then I would say I am training, I am being trained time and again, all yearly, those we shall have to cover..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you keep yourself updated all the time"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes, we keep ourselves updated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok... and then in the patients you see, how many patients of RHD do you see per day?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9029956220517655, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, I told you, iam a teacher, I am a health tutor by training, so being a health tutor by training, I teach, and because I am teaching medicine, I am a teacher of medicine, because iam teaching my students then I would say I am training, I am being trained time and again, all yearly, those we shall have to cover..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you keep yourself updated all the time"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes, we keep ourselves updated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok... and then in the patients you see, how many patients of RHD do you see per day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "depending on the location, right now you have found me in family planning, when iam here in family planning, I may end up not attending to any of the patients of RHD, but if I am in the general out patient, yes, chances that I will see, especially in children, chances that I would attend to more than 3,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in a day?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0033284689464061, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes, we keep ourselves updated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok... and then in the patients you see, how many patients of RHD do you see per day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "depending on the location, right now you have found me in family planning, when iam here in family planning, I may end up not attending to any of the patients of RHD, but if I am in the general out patient, yes, chances that I will see, especially in children, chances that I would attend to more than 3,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in a day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "suspected, suspected cases, not real ones, suspected cases of rheumatic heart disease are many, because it is almost, I would say it is common"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok alright... and then, the patients you meet, are they only out patients or you also see in patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1148094099404513, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "depending on the location, right now you have found me in family planning, when iam here in family planning, I may end up not attending to any of the patients of RHD, but if I am in the general out patient, yes, chances that I will see, especially in children, chances that I would attend to more than 3,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in a day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "suspected, suspected cases, not real ones, suspected cases of rheumatic heart disease are many, because it is almost, I would say it is common"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok alright... and then, the patients you meet, are they only out patients or you also see in patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "out- patient patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok so we can go back now, you had actually... told me what causes Rheumatic heart disease..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.238677122156057, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "suspected, suspected cases, not real ones, suspected cases of rheumatic heart disease are many, because it is almost, I would say it is common"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok alright... and then, the patients you meet, are they only out patients or you also see in patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "out- patient patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok so we can go back now, you had actually... told me what causes Rheumatic heart disease..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes, I talked about beta hemolytic streptococcal infection as being the prime cause"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok... what were you told that can be done to prevent rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.37630791350673, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "out- patient patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok so we can go back now, you had actually... told me what causes Rheumatic heart disease..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes, I talked about beta hemolytic streptococcal infection as being the prime cause"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok... what were you told that can be done to prevent rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would think about health education, people should be well educated about rheumatic heart disease, but of course when they have the information they will not move around in the villages, this issue of I have been poisoned, and because I have been poisoned, then they go to those traditional healers and if they come to the health facility and we diagnose the infections in the throat, treat it early, then we will have prevented the production of the antibodies, we shall have prevented the production of antibodies which the body would react to in the later stage, so early diagnosis, early treatment, health education is paramount in the prevention of rheumatic heart disease"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "then, which treatment options were you taught about for rheumatic heart disease? Respondent ... RHD is supposed to have long acting antibiotics especially the penicillins of course beta hemolytic streptococcus tend to respond better to penicillin. And ...when someone has already developed iris, in the process of developing rheumatic heart disease, one of the things that we need to prevent seriously is the subsequent attack of beta hemolytic streptococcal infection, therefore we give them long acting penicillins majorly things like benzathine which takes little longer in the body and some steroids where possible to neutralize the antigen antibody fights that I was talking about\n\nok... any other treatment options that you know of? Respondent ... apart from... apart from penicillins?\n\nyes"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5292310150074777, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes, I talked about beta hemolytic streptococcal infection as being the prime cause"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok... what were you told that can be done to prevent rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would think about health education, people should be well educated about rheumatic heart disease, but of course when they have the information they will not move around in the villages, this issue of I have been poisoned, and because I have been poisoned, then they go to those traditional healers and if they come to the health facility and we diagnose the infections in the throat, treat it early, then we will have prevented the production of the antibodies, we shall have prevented the production of antibodies which the body would react to in the later stage, so early diagnosis, early treatment, health education is paramount in the prevention of rheumatic heart disease"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "then, which treatment options were you taught about for rheumatic heart disease? Respondent ... RHD is supposed to have long acting antibiotics especially the penicillins of course beta hemolytic streptococcus tend to respond better to penicillin. And ...when someone has already developed iris, in the process of developing rheumatic heart disease, one of the things that we need to prevent seriously is the subsequent attack of beta hemolytic streptococcal infection, therefore we give them long acting penicillins majorly things like benzathine which takes little longer in the body and some steroids where possible to neutralize the antigen antibody fights that I was talking about\n\nok... any other treatment options that you know of? Respondent ... apart from... apart from penicillins?\n\nyes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, surgical maneuver can come in in case of some pathology in the heart, although it is not performed in this facility, but maybe if referred to other places, yes, in case it has already destroyed the valves and then it would require valve replacement, which is fairly expensive"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "yeah and may not be available in the facility, or even in the country ok...and then what is your understanding of the long-term prognosis of rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.097710583000655, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the prognosis depends on... the long-term prognosis now will depend on the magnitude of the damage, if the intervention got the patient when there was no serious damage, then there would be good prognosis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok Respondent... but if there was destruction caused by the antigen antibody reaction, then the prognosis would be poor, the person would present with full blown ...destroyed say valves of the heart and might even go into heart failure\n\nok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and we may even lose that such a patient as a result"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "true"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and we have lost many"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok... do you recall the last patient you saw with rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.3307895366673943, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and we may even lose that such a patient as a result"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "true"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and we have lost many"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok... do you recall the last patient you saw with rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually, I am even expecting one today"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ahhh... maybe you could tell me briefly about the person you were expecting, how they presented to you, maybe the first time..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.01913586456569, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "aha...yes, possibly, possibly possibly the girls complain more easily than the boys but more girls are brought to the facility than the boys"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so...this..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "about 7 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "7years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, these ones who come, are they in school, do they report being in school or they are out of school, are they school drop outs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1323731828507666, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "about 7 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "7years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, these ones who come, are they in school, do they report being in school or they are out of school, are they school drop outs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "many of them are in schools, many of them are in schools"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok...and adults? Any adults who show up with RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3979915837663783, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "many of them are in schools, many of them are in schools"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok...and adults? Any adults who show up with RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "adults rarely report, when you see an adult coming, then that person is already in late stage"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok...with complications"}, {"role": "user", "content": "With serious complications but as I said, when you go backwards, you will realize that this person was not well managed at the initial stages of the infection."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. So, when you try to talk to them, are they really aware of the link between sore throat, rheumatic fever and RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7259155355140472, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "With serious complications but as I said, when you go backwards, you will realize that this person was not well managed at the initial stages of the infection."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. So, when you try to talk to them, are they really aware of the link between sore throat, rheumatic fever and RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, they are no aware, they are not aware,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "... actually, they are surprised, especially the adults, they are surprised, when you begin telling them of the sore throat, of course, they will not benefit much from your education, because already by the time they are coming to the facility, they will be having the complications, but they would be surprised and when you talk about if this was handled earlier, well, you will not have gone into this, then they will regret, say if I had known then I would have acted"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "meaning they have knowledge gap Respondent ... there is an issue of knowledge about it\n\nso, when they present to you, what sorts of symptoms do they describe?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1307599203877126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "... actually, they are surprised, especially the adults, they are surprised, when you begin telling them of the sore throat, of course, they will not benefit much from your education, because already by the time they are coming to the facility, they will be having the complications, but they would be surprised and when you talk about if this was handled earlier, well, you will not have gone into this, then they will regret, say if I had known then I would have acted"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "meaning they have knowledge gap Respondent ... there is an issue of knowledge about it\n\nso, when they present to you, what sorts of symptoms do they describe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "of course, palpitations, easy fatigability, difficulty in lying on the left side"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and...even lying flat sometimes is their problem, most of them will be seated... but of course as I had said most of them would be the late cases reporting to the facility... phone rings...hmmm so...yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do any of them ever tell you about other symptoms like joint pains?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6305678029477932, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and...even lying flat sometimes is their problem, most of them will be seated... but of course as I had said most of them would be the late cases reporting to the facility... phone rings...hmmm so...yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do any of them ever tell you about other symptoms like joint pains?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "... joint pains yes...joint pains, joint pains is there especially in adults, especially in adults...ok, joint pain and swelling and partial loss of function is more in adults"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes...is more in adults"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and not in children?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9228531143864367, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "... joint pains yes...joint pains, joint pains is there especially in adults, especially in adults...ok, joint pain and swelling and partial loss of function is more in adults"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes...is more in adults"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and not in children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, it’s fairly rare in children you know when people tend to associate ... When they come with joint pain, severe joint pain is more common among Sickler’s so, you find people moving them more to investigating sickle cell, of course sickle cell is also more common so sometimes sickle cell and rheumatic heart disease is mimic"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think we are missing out children with rheumatic fever being directed to sickle cell clinic?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6084606350449833, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, it’s fairly rare in children you know when people tend to associate ... When they come with joint pain, severe joint pain is more common among Sickler’s so, you find people moving them more to investigating sickle cell, of course sickle cell is also more common so sometimes sickle cell and rheumatic heart disease is mimic"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think we are missing out children with rheumatic fever being directed to sickle cell clinic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes ... that’s what I think. That is another thing I think of course, those children, those ones with sickle cell disease have low immunity, and have higher chances of even developing rheumatic heart disease..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and in such situations, sickle cell will be blamed for causing the problem when actually the problem is rheumatic heart disease"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "have you met anyone with both"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.454889672895041, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and in such situations, sickle cell will be blamed for causing the problem when actually the problem is rheumatic heart disease"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "have you met anyone with both"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, they are many"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "many?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, I wish you could check through the sickle cell children? In the sickle cell clinic, you will discover that oh, our patients are here...ok, many of them are there... phone rings again and requests to answer it ok..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so generally, what’s good about the follow up? Is the follow up really good? And what about the adherence?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.388752682586469, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, I wish you could check through the sickle cell children? In the sickle cell clinic, you will discover that oh, our patients are here...ok, many of them are there... phone rings again and requests to answer it ok..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so generally, what’s good about the follow up? Is the follow up really good? And what about the adherence?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "follow up is not good, why? I said rheumatic fever is more among children, more common among children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and people tend to neglect children, if you tell a parent that you would want to see this child after 2 weeks, they will come when the child is badly off, they are never considered in most of the families so, follow up is ... is not very easy of course, the follow up in a hospital in many cases you would want the patient to come to the hospital but not the health workers following the patients to their homes so, may be one day if the strategy of follow up is changed, where people follow these people to their villages...then possibly, they would be attended to, but they would wait until when there is another serious attack has come, then they come to the facility so, they never follow their appointment dates the appointment dates are never followed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok... is it because they are feeling well..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.876391869540521, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "follow up is not good, why? I said rheumatic fever is more among children, more common among children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and people tend to neglect children, if you tell a parent that you would want to see this child after 2 weeks, they will come when the child is badly off, they are never considered in most of the families so, follow up is ... is not very easy of course, the follow up in a hospital in many cases you would want the patient to come to the hospital but not the health workers following the patients to their homes so, may be one day if the strategy of follow up is changed, where people follow these people to their villages...then possibly, they would be attended to, but they would wait until when there is another serious attack has come, then they come to the facility so, they never follow their appointment dates the appointment dates are never followed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok... is it because they are feeling well..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "of course, yes, if the child is still playing about, or if someone is still doing well, they tend to forget, they think the whole thing is cleared."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. What of adherence, do they follow their prescribed medication? I was like, the treatment would prevent, preventive treatment where you would think of those long acting penicillins..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.418213188378357, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and people tend to neglect children, if you tell a parent that you would want to see this child after 2 weeks, they will come when the child is badly off, they are never considered in most of the families so, follow up is ... is not very easy of course, the follow up in a hospital in many cases you would want the patient to come to the hospital but not the health workers following the patients to their homes so, may be one day if the strategy of follow up is changed, where people follow these people to their villages...then possibly, they would be attended to, but they would wait until when there is another serious attack has come, then they come to the facility so, they never follow their appointment dates the appointment dates are never followed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok... is it because they are feeling well..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "of course, yes, if the child is still playing about, or if someone is still doing well, they tend to forget, they think the whole thing is cleared."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. What of adherence, do they follow their prescribed medication? I was like, the treatment would prevent, preventive treatment where you would think of those long acting penicillins..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "...yes, if it is too long, then they may not, they may not adhere to"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. Then what sorts of barriers do they commonly state to you in getting the care they need...challenges they face? Respondent ... In the first-place lack of information because they lack the information, they will not go to the health facility or to a trained health worker to make the correct diagnosis and treatment that is one, then two, sometimes distance assuming somebody is in Aromo, and is not interested in going to aromo health center because people are saying there are no drugs in aromo health center, because our people believe in drugs that when they go to the health center, they must get drugs\n\nok"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2595516987357436, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they don’t believe in this information, the prescription that we make but they would want to get the drugs in the health facility, and if there are no drugs they will go to the private facility because there are drugs there. Unfortunately, many of the private places are not managed by professionals you will find a facility well stocked with drugs but managed by a nursing assistant see that? ... So, the nursing assistant may not be in the capacity of making the correct diagnosis and prescription, the correct prescription"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "so, that could be an issue, distance coupled with lack of information that they have poverty coming in, coz they don’t have money to travel that distance from aromo possibly to lira hospital or if those areas of my village in oyam, otwal, is far away moving from that place to maybe atapara it requires resources so, it’s sometimes difficult for them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they wait until there are serious complications and actually, when they are going to the hospital, they go for admission"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs... So, they wait when they are badly off"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3995018874841596, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "so, that could be an issue, distance coupled with lack of information that they have poverty coming in, coz they don’t have money to travel that distance from aromo possibly to lira hospital or if those areas of my village in oyam, otwal, is far away moving from that place to maybe atapara it requires resources so, it’s sometimes difficult for them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they wait until there are serious complications and actually, when they are going to the hospital, they go for admission"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs... So, they wait when they are badly off"}, {"role": "user", "content": "when they are badly off"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about you, which barriers do you face?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1330618617347348, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "one I talked about ah... ok let me start with personnel,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that we have very few well trained clinicians or experienced clinicians... the outpatient, our outpatient right now I think should be having like 3 clinical officers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and if one is possibly sick and maybe another one is on leave, then you would see that there is only one person left at the station meaning that the care that our patient may not be adequate"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok... quality of care..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0165551924016683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "but the pressure there, sometimes you would find some few history written and then somebody would move straight to prescription, which is not the order which is not how things should be done"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "but... that is one, two. As I mentioned, I think I mentioned it yesterday, that we have, sometimes we get volunteers but a volunteer, someone who is not paid for the activities they are doing can also have his or her special interests of being within the facility. One he is difficult to supervise two, because of the other interest, that hidden interest, it is difficult, so those are some of the things. And then two, drugs..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that in many occasions..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, should I say lack of motivation for the volunteers?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.240616880446298, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "but... that is one, two. As I mentioned, I think I mentioned it yesterday, that we have, sometimes we get volunteers but a volunteer, someone who is not paid for the activities they are doing can also have his or her special interests of being within the facility. One he is difficult to supervise two, because of the other interest, that hidden interest, it is difficult, so those are some of the things. And then two, drugs..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that in many occasions..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, should I say lack of motivation for the volunteers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes, lack of motivation..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "or for the health workers?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.4895743116069973, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that in many occasions..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, should I say lack of motivation for the volunteers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes, lack of motivation..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "or for the health workers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the health workers are getting their salary but the volunteers are there for nothing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they are not paid anything?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6550825684522195, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes, lack of motivation..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "or for the health workers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the health workers are getting their salary but the volunteers are there for nothing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they are not paid anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "100% they are there, they are not getting anything completely,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they are not getting anything? I thought the hospital is supposed to provide something?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.52260717642466, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "to supervise them and to monitor some of their, ok their hidden interest is difficult then I was talking of shortage of drugs, you may wish to prescribe a drug or you can prescribe a drug and the drug is not supplied by the pharmacy, that we have.. Why, because there is a stock out, so that one interferes with adherence"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and then the quality of care that you are offering to the patient, therefore, meaning that, meaning that your patient will come back with serious complications and investigations, investigations... the results of the investigations tend to take long"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "if you order for an investigation, you are thinking about rheumatic heart disease...and you would want investigations done, so that you maybe refer the patient to the respective places that they can get adequate care, two things, you may receive your patient back or you may not see your patient anymore"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do they get lost on the way?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8028968626940665, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and then the quality of care that you are offering to the patient, therefore, meaning that, meaning that your patient will come back with serious complications and investigations, investigations... the results of the investigations tend to take long"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "if you order for an investigation, you are thinking about rheumatic heart disease...and you would want investigations done, so that you maybe refer the patient to the respective places that they can get adequate care, two things, you may receive your patient back or you may not see your patient anymore"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do they get lost on the way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they get lost on the way"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "due to the long waiting hours at the investigation point...?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4603664971531685, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they get lost on the way"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "due to the long waiting hours at the investigation point...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that one I have not discovered yet, that one I have not discovered yet, but sometimes they also get lost on the way"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "then... if you have referred or you have admitted the patient Respondent sometimes we don’t get any information about our patient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, lack of feedback"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8448516635035204, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that one I have not discovered yet, that one I have not discovered yet, but sometimes they also get lost on the way"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "then... if you have referred or you have admitted the patient Respondent sometimes we don’t get any information about our patient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, lack of feedback"}, {"role": "user", "content": "feedback about your patient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok what else...?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.2720574038928, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "then... if you have referred or you have admitted the patient Respondent sometimes we don’t get any information about our patient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, lack of feedback"}, {"role": "user", "content": "feedback about your patient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok what else...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think basically those are the ones"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, ok now this is in your perspective, what sorts of barriers do you perceive that the patients face in the care that they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9408116097441976, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think basically those are the ones"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, ok now this is in your perspective, what sorts of barriers do you perceive that the patients face in the care that they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "one major problem that me as a person think of is health education"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in the community. Health education is a major problem, we are going back, actually most of our patients are going back in the times of Albert Cook where when they fall sick, they do their things in the villages, they are going into those days of, someone has developed, because those days in the past in lango, in the past, if there was someone with a sore throat, they would pour water on an axe, then they would scoop it, the other one pouring on the other side the axe would be handled like this ... (demonstrates) then somebody pours water there and this patient must have to, must take this one which is dropping from the sharp edge of the axe and they say it would clear, it would treat very well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "would it really work?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4752501291635382, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they would just play about with your mind so that you assume you are treated. so, our people are almost going back to those ancient methods of treatment, that’s why you are seeing others coming, ok... am seeing almost 30% of our patients have lost their uvula so, there should be proper health education about sore throat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in case there is any sore throat, let us not have any body tampering with the mouth"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they should go to the health facility so that they are adequately treated, so that there is proper diagnosis and proper treatment, otherwise we shall continue receiving them at a late hour in the hospital or in the health facility so, to start with, I would think there must be adequate health education offered to the people"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok which other barriers do you think they face?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.528055699070598, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "in case there is any sore throat, let us not have any body tampering with the mouth"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they should go to the health facility so that they are adequately treated, so that there is proper diagnosis and proper treatment, otherwise we shall continue receiving them at a late hour in the hospital or in the health facility so, to start with, I would think there must be adequate health education offered to the people"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok which other barriers do you think they face?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mentioned ... the distance..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "this is in your view, what you think they go through"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5867285545228866, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they should go to the health facility so that they are adequately treated, so that there is proper diagnosis and proper treatment, otherwise we shall continue receiving them at a late hour in the hospital or in the health facility so, to start with, I would think there must be adequate health education offered to the people"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok which other barriers do you think they face?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mentioned ... the distance..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "this is in your view, what you think they go through"}, {"role": "user", "content": "another thing could be our attitude, some of us are not friendly to our clients, some of us are not friendly to our clients, we tend to ignore them and indeed, if someone comes to the hospital and I have not given him the proper attention he expects, sincerely, he will lose interest in getting services from the facility, goes back to the village and have it the other way, the traditional"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that’s why I was told mothers prefer traditional birth attendants"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6519206161365407, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mentioned ... the distance..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "this is in your view, what you think they go through"}, {"role": "user", "content": "another thing could be our attitude, some of us are not friendly to our clients, some of us are not friendly to our clients, we tend to ignore them and indeed, if someone comes to the hospital and I have not given him the proper attention he expects, sincerely, he will lose interest in getting services from the facility, goes back to the village and have it the other way, the traditional"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that’s why I was told mothers prefer traditional birth attendants"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "because they are treated nicely"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8048402668352354, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "because they are treated nicely"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, majorly it’s our attitude towards our clients and patients, so maybe health workers must develop that customer care attitude they should recognize that they are our customers, they are the reason why we are here..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "yeah"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and then treat them fairly because they are not the same, others are coming to the health facility for the first time, they have been in the villages so crossing to lira they would have a lot of fear and if they are mishandled then automatically, they would lose interest in getting care from the health facility so, attitude is another big challenge another big barrier"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. Anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8942669631502614, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, majorly it’s our attitude towards our clients and patients, so maybe health workers must develop that customer care attitude they should recognize that they are our customers, they are the reason why we are here..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "yeah"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and then treat them fairly because they are not the same, others are coming to the health facility for the first time, they have been in the villages so crossing to lira they would have a lot of fear and if they are mishandled then automatically, they would lose interest in getting care from the health facility so, attitude is another big challenge another big barrier"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "basically, I think I would mention that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. So, let’s talk about the administration and leadership in the district, what do you think they have done well for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5144489545127968, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "so, people should be looking at how to retain the services so that it is always there. Then, I wish they could think of continuously training health workers, if they could continuously train health workers have in plan, that the health workers even in the health facility, in the hospital here and other places are trained and then supervised on the management of rheumatic heart disease, it would be so good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. That is with the administration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, they are not doing that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6827210605697742, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "so, people should be looking at how to retain the services so that it is always there. Then, I wish they could think of continuously training health workers, if they could continuously train health workers have in plan, that the health workers even in the health facility, in the hospital here and other places are trained and then supervised on the management of rheumatic heart disease, it would be so good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. That is with the administration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, they are not doing that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "those are the things you feel they are not doing? Maybe you can just mention briefly what you the administration is not doing right and the leadership of the district, what you feel hasn’t been done"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8696900672997492, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, they are not doing that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "those are the things you feel they are not doing? Maybe you can just mention briefly what you the administration is not doing right and the leadership of the district, what you feel hasn’t been done"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What has been done I think I mentioned it I talked about it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "yes, what has been done, now we are looking at what you think should have been done and is not being done."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.308259342345369, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What has been done I think I mentioned it I talked about it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "yes, what has been done, now we are looking at what you think should have been done and is not being done."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the element of, the element of support of follow up"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because if these patients are supposed to come back for review...\n\nand they are coming, there must be a mechanism of tracing the defaulter, which is not there, I guess is not in place, so there should be a mechanism of tracing the defaulters..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok Respondent... so that they are comprehensively treated and they get cured. I think that is what I would talk about\n\nok. Are you happy about the funding of healthcare in general?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5647326026059654, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the element of, the element of support of follow up"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because if these patients are supposed to come back for review...\n\nand they are coming, there must be a mechanism of tracing the defaulter, which is not there, I guess is not in place, so there should be a mechanism of tracing the defaulters..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok Respondent... so that they are comprehensively treated and they get cured. I think that is what I would talk about\n\nok. Are you happy about the funding of healthcare in general?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs... what of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.1663365464271176, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs... what of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know the funding of... I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know what the implementers are experiencing, the implementers of this program, I don’t know what they are experiencing, but may be if I can see from your body then I would think that you people are doing well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs...however generally ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what of generally funding for health care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4070406071412416, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know the funding of... I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know what the implementers are experiencing, the implementers of this program, I don’t know what they are experiencing, but may be if I can see from your body then I would think that you people are doing well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs...however generally ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what of generally funding for health care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "generally funding for health care is not adequate if it was adequate, we would be having specialized machines like a CT scan in general in regional referral hospitals we could be having MRIs in general in the hospitals, but now where do we get them? In private places in Kampala very expensive, and they would help in the diagnosis of some of those cases easily see that? So, the funding, look we are talking about motivation we are talking about staffing, if there was proper funding then we would be having enough staff in the health facility, but usually what do they say? The wage bill cannot allow, and if the wage bill cannot allow, what does it mean, there is no money! So there should be, to me there should be enough funding so that the staffing level is raised..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, meaning the staff level is low?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.674489563490268, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs...however generally ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what of generally funding for health care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "generally funding for health care is not adequate if it was adequate, we would be having specialized machines like a CT scan in general in regional referral hospitals we could be having MRIs in general in the hospitals, but now where do we get them? In private places in Kampala very expensive, and they would help in the diagnosis of some of those cases easily see that? So, the funding, look we are talking about motivation we are talking about staffing, if there was proper funding then we would be having enough staff in the health facility, but usually what do they say? The wage bill cannot allow, and if the wage bill cannot allow, what does it mean, there is no money! So there should be, to me there should be enough funding so that the staffing level is raised..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, meaning the staff level is low?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "very low... yes, very low"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. They are low but you have the right qualification"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.971655070544742, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "generally funding for health care is not adequate if it was adequate, we would be having specialized machines like a CT scan in general in regional referral hospitals we could be having MRIs in general in the hospitals, but now where do we get them? In private places in Kampala very expensive, and they would help in the diagnosis of some of those cases easily see that? So, the funding, look we are talking about motivation we are talking about staffing, if there was proper funding then we would be having enough staff in the health facility, but usually what do they say? The wage bill cannot allow, and if the wage bill cannot allow, what does it mean, there is no money! So there should be, to me there should be enough funding so that the staffing level is raised..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, meaning the staff level is low?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "very low... yes, very low"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. They are low but you have the right qualification"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes... we have the right qualification, but as I had mentioned, that now we are getting...ok the right qualification, yes we are getting volunteers who are not motivated, and the facility cannot motivate them why? Because there is no money, and there is no plan for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so how is the quality of care offered?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.301838967271936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "very low... yes, very low"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. They are low but you have the right qualification"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes... we have the right qualification, but as I had mentioned, that now we are getting...ok the right qualification, yes we are getting volunteers who are not motivated, and the facility cannot motivate them why? Because there is no money, and there is no plan for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so how is the quality of care offered?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "ahh... I had mentioned that the quality of care is compromised"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "because of the few staff?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.668709963635484, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes... we have the right qualification, but as I had mentioned, that now we are getting...ok the right qualification, yes we are getting volunteers who are not motivated, and the facility cannot motivate them why? Because there is no money, and there is no plan for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so how is the quality of care offered?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "ahh... I had mentioned that the quality of care is compromised"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "because of the few staff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because of the few staff"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how would you talk of the waiting time?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.0763444040394265, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "ahh... I had mentioned that the quality of care is compromised"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "because of the few staff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because of the few staff"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how would you talk of the waiting time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "prolonged"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. On average, how many hours would a patient have to wait?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.529271560043807, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "because of the few staff"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how would you talk of the waiting time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "prolonged"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. On average, how many hours would a patient have to wait?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "sometimes even more than 2 hours"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "more than 2 hours? Ok. So as a health worker, what motivates you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.480582172893589, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "sometimes even more than 2 hours"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "more than 2 hours? Ok. So as a health worker, what motivates you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "first of all, being a health worker is my motivation, I’m not a health worker by chance I’m a health worker by choice..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and I love to be what I am. And if I have treated you, when you are badly off and tomorrow, I see you cured, I get motivated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "other than that, what makes you carry on?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7562024143262103, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "first of all, being a health worker is my motivation, I’m not a health worker by chance I’m a health worker by choice..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and I love to be what I am. And if I have treated you, when you are badly off and tomorrow, I see you cured, I get motivated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "other than that, what makes you carry on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "ahh...the finances we talk about is just a source or a means to motivation, because I would want to come to the hospital, I’m a health worker I live, my home is about 5km away I would want to a place where I do offer my services and I feel happy about it, but coming from my home to the health facility requires resources, requires money therefore, the money should be given to me by the facility, but what do we receive? What we receive is not sufficient, although you have been hearing that there is some increment. But the increment of salaries that usually occur also has challenges, because by the time salaries were increased, even the prices of everything shot up so, everything is balanced again, you see that? Everything is balanced again if fuel was at 2500, by the time they are increasing the salary, it has now gone to 4000 actually 4300 now if I was using a fuel from my home to this place, I would put in fuel of like 10000 and 10000 or 15000 would take me for like 3 days but now I’m using 30 see that? So, it has balanced everything"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, there is actually no increment..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.402719030032358, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "ahh...the finances we talk about is just a source or a means to motivation, because I would want to come to the hospital, I’m a health worker I live, my home is about 5km away I would want to a place where I do offer my services and I feel happy about it, but coming from my home to the health facility requires resources, requires money therefore, the money should be given to me by the facility, but what do we receive? What we receive is not sufficient, although you have been hearing that there is some increment. But the increment of salaries that usually occur also has challenges, because by the time salaries were increased, even the prices of everything shot up so, everything is balanced again, you see that? Everything is balanced again if fuel was at 2500, by the time they are increasing the salary, it has now gone to 4000 actually 4300 now if I was using a fuel from my home to this place, I would put in fuel of like 10000 and 10000 or 15000 would take me for like 3 days but now I’m using 30 see that? So, it has balanced everything"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, there is actually no increment..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no increment, there is no increment that is how iam looking at it there is no increment. Meat by then, meat was 8000, by the time salaries increased, now it is 10 and 12"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs,"}, {"role": "user", "content": "its 10 and 12"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs... did they decide to increase their prices because your salaries were raised?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1678451188706285, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that’s when, that’s when the element of volunteers taking over office, you see a volunteer, the real person supposed to do the work requests the volunteer , please am still moving out, handle my patients, then the volunteer will do the reverse of what is expected. You see that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "yeah"}, {"role": "user", "content": "but if what was given to the civil servant was fairly good, they could cover the basics of the civil servant, then people would have more time at their places of work and then offer their services."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "true"}, {"role": "user", "content": "you are lucky you are not in civil service...laughs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs... but I will soon join"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4417840973711462, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "you are lucky you are not in civil service...laughs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs... but I will soon join"}, {"role": "user", "content": "please come... there is advert"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they posted yesterday"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. What about medication, do you think we have enough medication like benzathine, heart failure drugs and diagnostics in the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7799803671248717, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they posted yesterday"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. What about medication, do you think we have enough medication like benzathine, heart failure drugs and diagnostics in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "many times, they are out of stock, many times they are out of stock"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they will say very little was brought"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so most of the time they are out of stock?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9777559634720796, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "many times, they are out of stock, many times they are out of stock"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they will say very little was brought"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so most of the time they are out of stock?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "most times they are out of stock"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. Then why is it so, why is it always out of stock? Is it because the budget is small?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.712971143308751, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the pharmacist would answer some of those,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I may not be in position, but sometimes when you ask them, others will say, you know, we order for the drugs but what is brought is not our order, we had ordered for this, look at the order book, we ordered for this but what is brought was this, so we go by what has been brought"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they know the reason why some of those happen the way it is happening"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what of the records system, do you think it is doing well?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:263", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.23823597939352, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they know the reason why some of those happen the way it is happening"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what of the records system, do you think it is doing well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "hmm... records, yes, record have greatly improved, they have greatly improved, both out patient records and in-patient records"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "HMIS has greatly improved"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok so, what have they done well?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:267", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7632542955475556, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "HMIS has greatly improved"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok so, what have they done well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in the first place, record officers are many, they are many, and because they are so many, their quality of service is improved"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they do their work with little stress, and because they do their work with little stress, they offer quality services"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. That’s nice. Then what do you think they haven’t done well?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:273", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3213364822325866, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "what they haven’t done well, the records officers? The record people?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "maybe weekend coverage is an issue, weekend coverage is a big issue\n\nbecause sometimes you would find the stores, I mean the records non-functional over the weekends, if they could only improve on that it would be so fine,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and many times, shortages of forms can also deter their activities, ok it is not their making it could be institutional"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. If I went to their offices, would I get like registers for acute rheumatic fever or RHD patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:277", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6312796076945513, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and many times, shortages of forms can also deter their activities, ok it is not their making it could be institutional"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. If I went to their offices, would I get like registers for acute rheumatic fever or RHD patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is not their problem that is not their problem that is the same thing iam complaining about sexual gender-based violence ah... some diseases are grouped under others. I have not checked the register yet, but there are many diseases that are grouped under others and then you know others are never specific so, you may want to see a specific disease and they say ...ah... that one is under others, and the others will be so many I was giving an example of sexual gender-based violence, they would just call it domestic violence but we have rape, we have defilement, physical injuries, so we would want those categories spelt out. So, the same way, maybe, I said I haven’t checked the register yet,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "maybe you will find rheumatic heart disease also put under others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "under others... so actually you won’t be able to quantify the total number of patients seen here with rheumatic heart disease"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8125328974383903, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is not their problem that is not their problem that is the same thing iam complaining about sexual gender-based violence ah... some diseases are grouped under others. I have not checked the register yet, but there are many diseases that are grouped under others and then you know others are never specific so, you may want to see a specific disease and they say ...ah... that one is under others, and the others will be so many I was giving an example of sexual gender-based violence, they would just call it domestic violence but we have rape, we have defilement, physical injuries, so we would want those categories spelt out. So, the same way, maybe, I said I haven’t checked the register yet,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "maybe you will find rheumatic heart disease also put under others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "under others... so actually you won’t be able to quantify the total number of patients seen here with rheumatic heart disease"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. What about guidelines and protocols on rheumatic heart disease, do they exist in the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:281", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0139254415982113, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "maybe you will find rheumatic heart disease also put under others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "under others... so actually you won’t be able to quantify the total number of patients seen here with rheumatic heart disease"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. What about guidelines and protocols on rheumatic heart disease, do they exist in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven’t seen any"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you haven’t seen any? Wow. We have had so much about local systems and health systems and all that. But now let’s look at perception of patient outcomes. Generally, do you think that these RHD patients are getting the care that they need? Especially surgery?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:283", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2376949351091238, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. What about guidelines and protocols on rheumatic heart disease, do they exist in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven’t seen any"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you haven’t seen any? Wow. We have had so much about local systems and health systems and all that. But now let’s look at perception of patient outcomes. Generally, do you think that these RHD patients are getting the care that they need? Especially surgery?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do you think so?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:287", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4169073272952148, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do you think so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "of course, when there is surgery you would think of referral to Mulago, heart institute and referral to Mulago heart institute has so many things attached, one, you would need maybe transport..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and transport from the hospital may require fuel which may not be available then 2, the upkeep on the other side will also require money, so in many cases if a patient is having a serious heart disease, RHD, and you think the patient may benefit from services outside a place like lira hospital they go back home, they condemn the patient, the patient is supposed to go to Mulago, we don’t have the resources, what do we do? Back home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that is really sad. Are you aware of any patient safety and quality of care concerns?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:289", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4632303636613498, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "of course, when there is surgery you would think of referral to Mulago, heart institute and referral to Mulago heart institute has so many things attached, one, you would need maybe transport..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and transport from the hospital may require fuel which may not be available then 2, the upkeep on the other side will also require money, so in many cases if a patient is having a serious heart disease, RHD, and you think the patient may benefit from services outside a place like lira hospital they go back home, they condemn the patient, the patient is supposed to go to Mulago, we don’t have the resources, what do we do? Back home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that is really sad. Are you aware of any patient safety and quality of care concerns?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "pardon"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "patient safety and quality of care concerns?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:291", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5147004040681664, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and transport from the hospital may require fuel which may not be available then 2, the upkeep on the other side will also require money, so in many cases if a patient is having a serious heart disease, RHD, and you think the patient may benefit from services outside a place like lira hospital they go back home, they condemn the patient, the patient is supposed to go to Mulago, we don’t have the resources, what do we do? Back home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that is really sad. Are you aware of any patient safety and quality of care concerns?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "pardon"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "patient safety and quality of care concerns?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes, I’m aware"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "... like which ones?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:299", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7844846884136052, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "one they have right to information, we must give them correct information, they have right to correct treatment and we are supposed to offer the proper treatment that they are supposed to, that they demand and it is our responsibility ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "...when we are in this health facility to fulfill all those and others, there are a number of things entailing the rights of patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "which is documented in the patient charter, I think we have it in this hospital, patient charters are there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok, so, do you think we are following them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:303", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9684996153254384, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "which is documented in the patient charter, I think we have it in this hospital, patient charters are there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok, so, do you think we are following them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I ... yes, some areas, yes, some areas has challenges"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and the challenges, others are man-made, others institutional, others national issues see that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. Do you think we have preventable deaths occurring in the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:305", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0761106836949315, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I ... yes, some areas, yes, some areas has challenges"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and the challenges, others are man-made, others institutional, others national issues see that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. Do you think we have preventable deaths occurring in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like which ones?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:307", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1956785374388126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and the challenges, others are man-made, others institutional, others national issues see that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. Do you think we have preventable deaths occurring in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like which ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "maternal death"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "aha what do you think would be causing such?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:309", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3285317082653472, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like which ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "maternal death"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "aha what do you think would be causing such?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "late reporting"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "by the staff?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:311", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4761463425170525, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "maternal death"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "aha what do you think would be causing such?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "late reporting"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "by the staff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "late reporting by the patient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "oh...by the patient themselves"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:315", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8224028919963609, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "late reporting by the patient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "oh...by the patient themselves"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the patient reporting late"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "or lack of what to use"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:317", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0248921022181787, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the patient reporting late"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "or lack of what to use"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in the hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. So, it’s sometimes the hospitals..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:327", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4291725553661845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "death of that mother. So that would have been a preventable death but because such a cadre that was supposed to manage that mother is not there, then the mother may die"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because the mother wanted blood and there was no blood, the mother will die, we even had issues where we would lose children because there was no oxygen, but iam happy the hospital has now installed the oxygen plant with in the institution, but we had lost so many in the facility because there was no oxygen"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that’s sad"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes... and yet those could have been preventable death"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think we have patients dying in the community without presenting to the hospital"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:331", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 4.2335463646496105, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes... and yet those could have been preventable death"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think we have patients dying in the community without presenting to the hospital"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "accessibility"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "to the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:337", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6921074960900002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "to the hospital, you cannot access the hospital easily, by the way there is no...sometimes in 1998, 1999, 2000 and so on, there used to be, there used to be a radio call that were planted on the ambulances and the health institutions and they would coordinate say we have a serious patient, we have a very severely sick person we are bringing into the facility please prepare, by the time these people were reaching, the hospital you would find the hospital set or there was communication from the villages they were calling them what? I have forgotten, there were people in the villages that would hurry the patient to the health facility or call the facility and the facility would pick the patient from the village to the health facility and if they were unable to manage, then they would coordinate with the referral center and rush the patient, but those things disappeared again. So, the linkage the coordination between the village, the smaller health facilities and referral centers is lost again\n\nis lost"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "so accessibility of services is not easy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and then the bureaucracy, you must first do this, first do this"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like you must have a referral letter before coming here"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:345", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2072969000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "go to the male ward, and then the man will be taken to medicine ward, he has intestinal obstruction, taken first to maternity, maternity would refer to medicine, medicine would say this is not our patient, maybe the person would even sleep there then the following day he is taken to his ward. Surgery"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "surgery"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and you think by the time they are taking him to surgery he is yet a human being?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "no"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the whole gut is not there, so I’m happy that we now have casualty where everyone is would first be taken there and assessed, resuscitated then eventually forwarded to the rightful places"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok so, in your opinion, what are the 2 most important things ministry of health should do to improve outcomes?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:363", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "meaning that even if we are saying now, we have enough staffing for lira regional referral hospital that is not the required staffing to provide services to the population, the increased population"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "true"}, {"role": "user", "content": "so, there must be something done to relate the population and then the required health professionals, like if this is the population of lango sub region, about how many health workers , about how many cadres of these health workers do we need to take care of this population, there should be something done related to that, but not looking at structures of the facility per se otherwise we shall still have the shortages of staff we are talking about the burn out of the few staff within the facility because of the exploding numbers of patients and even the drugs, coz the drugs coz the drugs also they also look at the structures, if one day, people estimate the number of people who get services from the private facilities then join in the health facilities, in the government facilities, maybe take a half of those going to the health facilities, then we shall have more people seeking care from well-trained motivated health workers rather than moving here and there to delay care then eventually when they have failed from the other side, they would have done many things one, they will have taken away the resources, say the resources those people have two, the will have delayed care, then finally they are referred to the health facility when they are dying so they will have lost everything, see that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "yeah"}, {"role": "user", "content": "or another thing, if RHD management that we have in the facility could also organize trainings for some of those people in the private facilities as well, so that we don’t delay them, they do something for the patients, since others prefer going to them. It would be so good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok. Anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:369", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "apart from thanking you?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and your patience?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have loved your patience, thank you for checking on me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and thank you very much also for accepting to be a part of this"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00011:371", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and your patience?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have loved your patience, thank you for checking on me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and thank you very much also for accepting to be a part of this"}, {"role": "user", "content": "you are welcome"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "sparing for your time"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.129715319213997, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yep. Great."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And will not name your employer in the interview. I will pseudonymize you if you want, etc., etc.. OK. So first question, what was your job in January of 2020?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Physician. Scientist."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah? Where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Can I say the university? The [organization]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "New York City?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.810794799126663, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Physician. Scientist."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah? Where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Can I say the university? The [organization]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "New York City?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when did you first hear about the novel virus?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.345327554585181, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Can I say the university? The [organization]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "New York City?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when did you first hear about the novel virus?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I heard about it in January 2020 while traveling in the Far East."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you hear about it?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.828141727316867, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when did you first hear about the novel virus?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I heard about it in January 2020 while traveling in the Far East."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you hear about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I heard about it through the news, and it was during the Chinese New Year. There's lots of travelers wearing masks And that was the first time that I realized that there was something going on. And the hotels began to check your temperature."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were your first thoughts?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.364601919240963, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I heard about it in January 2020 while traveling in the Far East."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you hear about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I heard about it through the news, and it was during the Chinese New Year. There's lots of travelers wearing masks And that was the first time that I realized that there was something going on. And the hotels began to check your temperature."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were your first thoughts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My first thoughts… My first thought was that I was not at all concerned, that I viewed it as a flu. And I thought that the people who were wearing masks were just being excessively anxious. So I definitely underplayed the the the crisis, the the looming crisis, the very beginning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember, why did you think that?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.960668799156625, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I heard about it through the news, and it was during the Chinese New Year. There's lots of travelers wearing masks And that was the first time that I realized that there was something going on. And the hotels began to check your temperature."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were your first thoughts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My first thoughts… My first thought was that I was not at all concerned, that I viewed it as a flu. And I thought that the people who were wearing masks were just being excessively anxious. So I definitely underplayed the the the crisis, the the looming crisis, the very beginning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember, why did you think that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I’ve seen as a doctor, seeing lots of epidemics and pandemics? And I just felt that it was in that same category. No, I mean, I just felt that would be a seasonal flu, uh, a flu. And being around lots of infectious diseases, as a doctor, I tend to be a little bit more cavalier about about that than the general population. And I lived through the HIV crisis, and that was quite bad. And so I'm used to being around infectious diseases. So I kind of had this this this, you know, this attitude of I'm watching the infections, but I can't get it because I’m a doctor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. Did you discuss the virus at this time with anybody?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.358850369329167, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I’ve seen as a doctor, seeing lots of epidemics and pandemics? And I just felt that it was in that same category. No, I mean, I just felt that would be a seasonal flu, uh, a flu. And being around lots of infectious diseases, as a doctor, I tend to be a little bit more cavalier about about that than the general population. And I lived through the HIV crisis, and that was quite bad. And so I'm used to being around infectious diseases. So I kind of had this this this, you know, this attitude of I'm watching the infections, but I can't get it because I’m a doctor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. Did you discuss the virus at this time with anybody?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was traveling with my family and that we discussed the virus for sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any coworkers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that… no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the first wave of COVID hit New York around mid-March."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.17650041036574, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was traveling with my family and that we discussed the virus for sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any coworkers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that… no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the first wave of COVID hit New York around mid-March."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did your perception of COVID change before then?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.733196722038052, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It changed drastically, in March."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In March?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I got it. I got infected and my wife got infected. And we got infected on March the eighth at a birthday party. And we were in a dining room for a party with 21 to 22 people. And of that 21 or 22, almost everybody had been traveling around the world. And seven people got infected at that party, and one person died. And that person was an older person that he gave it to his wife, and she died. And the person that I think transmitted it to me and my wife got very, very, very, very sick. So that's when it really hit home that this is something quite serious."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By the time… But when you went to that party, did you still think it was not serious?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.481329691153392, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I got it. I got infected and my wife got infected. And we got infected on March the eighth at a birthday party. And we were in a dining room for a party with 21 to 22 people. And of that 21 or 22, almost everybody had been traveling around the world. And seven people got infected at that party, and one person died. And that person was an older person that he gave it to his wife, and she died. And the person that I think transmitted it to me and my wife got very, very, very, very sick. So that's when it really hit home that this is something quite serious."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By the time… But when you went to that party, did you still think it was not serious?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I went to the party It was definitely an issue because two days before that was my birthday party, of my father who turned 99. And we met we met as a family at his nursing home at his assisted living facility. And it was definitely an issue, a concern that maybe we shouldn't be doing this. But the nursing home facility allowed it and we were probably the last get together for family at that place for the remaining- for two more years, probably. It was the very last get together for families where families were allowed to meet. So I was definitely concerned at that time that this is a mistake, that we should not be doing this. But it wasn't enough of a concern. In retrospect, we would have definitely opted out. But at the time, it was still… it was a concern, but not an emergency. Not the emergency that it became OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you describe how you were feeling around this time?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.31258854572599, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I got it. I got infected and my wife got infected. And we got infected on March the eighth at a birthday party. And we were in a dining room for a party with 21 to 22 people. And of that 21 or 22, almost everybody had been traveling around the world. And seven people got infected at that party, and one person died. And that person was an older person that he gave it to his wife, and she died. And the person that I think transmitted it to me and my wife got very, very, very, very sick. So that's when it really hit home that this is something quite serious."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By the time… But when you went to that party, did you still think it was not serious?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I went to the party It was definitely an issue because two days before that was my birthday party, of my father who turned 99. And we met we met as a family at his nursing home at his assisted living facility. And it was definitely an issue, a concern that maybe we shouldn't be doing this. But the nursing home facility allowed it and we were probably the last get together for family at that place for the remaining- for two more years, probably. It was the very last get together for families where families were allowed to meet. So I was definitely concerned at that time that this is a mistake, that we should not be doing this. But it wasn't enough of a concern. In retrospect, we would have definitely opted out. But at the time, it was still… it was a concern, but not an emergency. Not the emergency that it became OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you describe how you were feeling around this time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, as with with respect to the pandemic or with respect to how I feel about getting sick?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With respect to the pandemic. But before you got sick."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.013987273028877, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I went to the party It was definitely an issue because two days before that was my birthday party, of my father who turned 99. And we met we met as a family at his nursing home at his assisted living facility. And it was definitely an issue, a concern that maybe we shouldn't be doing this. But the nursing home facility allowed it and we were probably the last get together for family at that place for the remaining- for two more years, probably. It was the very last get together for families where families were allowed to meet. So I was definitely concerned at that time that this is a mistake, that we should not be doing this. But it wasn't enough of a concern. In retrospect, we would have definitely opted out. But at the time, it was still… it was a concern, but not an emergency. Not the emergency that it became OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you describe how you were feeling around this time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, as with with respect to the pandemic or with respect to how I feel about getting sick?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With respect to the pandemic. But before you got sick."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, so it was starting to emerge that this is much more serious than we thought And I was concerned. It was now going beyond typical seasonal flu. That was in early March. The mortality rate was starting to climb and it was not typical of of influenza. So my my antenna were raised, let's put it that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did your what did your hospital or your university do to prepare for the impending crisis?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.793319192254308, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, as with with respect to the pandemic or with respect to how I feel about getting sick?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With respect to the pandemic. But before you got sick."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, so it was starting to emerge that this is much more serious than we thought And I was concerned. It was now going beyond typical seasonal flu. That was in early March. The mortality rate was starting to climb and it was not typical of of influenza. So my my antenna were raised, let's put it that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did your what did your hospital or your university do to prepare for the impending crisis?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The preparation was poor. Very, very poor, in fact. But it was not unique. I mean, it was that the whole medical system was unprepared because at the time it was a great fear that that masks and PPE would be in short, supply for medical personnel. At that time, it was really aware, people were aware that doctors and nurses and other health professionals needed to be protected against the virus. It was known that it was transmitted by air. And because there's a shortage, it was hard to get… It was hard for regular people to get to get masks. And when I finally got started, I was unable to get a covid test. So even at this major medical center, we could not get tested for this virus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so you said the preparation was poor, but is there anything… what else is there, aside from the lack of PPE?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.54813243583812, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, so it was starting to emerge that this is much more serious than we thought And I was concerned. It was now going beyond typical seasonal flu. That was in early March. The mortality rate was starting to climb and it was not typical of of influenza. So my my antenna were raised, let's put it that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did your what did your hospital or your university do to prepare for the impending crisis?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The preparation was poor. Very, very poor, in fact. But it was not unique. I mean, it was that the whole medical system was unprepared because at the time it was a great fear that that masks and PPE would be in short, supply for medical personnel. At that time, it was really aware, people were aware that doctors and nurses and other health professionals needed to be protected against the virus. It was known that it was transmitted by air. And because there's a shortage, it was hard to get… It was hard for regular people to get to get masks. And when I finally got started, I was unable to get a covid test. So even at this major medical center, we could not get tested for this virus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so you said the preparation was poor, but is there anything… what else is there, aside from the lack of PPE?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wouldn't I think that the country wasn’t ready. If the country was ready then there would have been a ready supply of PPE for the hospitals and mass general population. And that would have been, you know, good preparation. We didn't have that. As the pandemic emerged then, you know, there were more masks being manufactured and things like that. But at the time, everybody was caught very short on these supplies. And that's why the message from the CDC was so, well, was incorrect, was also necessary because people were afraid that the CDC, that PPE would run out So the preparation was that there was a nationwide lack of preparedness as opposed to the medical field not being prepared."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right, but you're saying this is something that arrived in March, correct?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.386813817597911, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The preparation was poor. Very, very poor, in fact. But it was not unique. I mean, it was that the whole medical system was unprepared because at the time it was a great fear that that masks and PPE would be in short, supply for medical personnel. At that time, it was really aware, people were aware that doctors and nurses and other health professionals needed to be protected against the virus. It was known that it was transmitted by air. And because there's a shortage, it was hard to get… It was hard for regular people to get to get masks. And when I finally got started, I was unable to get a covid test. So even at this major medical center, we could not get tested for this virus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so you said the preparation was poor, but is there anything… what else is there, aside from the lack of PPE?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wouldn't I think that the country wasn’t ready. If the country was ready then there would have been a ready supply of PPE for the hospitals and mass general population. And that would have been, you know, good preparation. We didn't have that. As the pandemic emerged then, you know, there were more masks being manufactured and things like that. But at the time, everybody was caught very short on these supplies. And that's why the message from the CDC was so, well, was incorrect, was also necessary because people were afraid that the CDC, that PPE would run out So the preparation was that there was a nationwide lack of preparedness as opposed to the medical field not being prepared."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right, but you're saying this is something that arrived in March, correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the first cases were in January."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.773844219256681, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the first cases were in January."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. Yeah, that's right. But when you see a couple of cases you don't get, it doesn't raise your consciousness, doesn’t raise your antenna. You don't see that it's anything serious until it starts to explode. And it exploded quite quickly. But in February, the concern was there, but it was still not… people did not anticipate that a million Americans were die. It was people just didn't view it that way. So people were concerned, but not as much as… in hindsight it's very easy to look back and say this should have been done. But while it was happening? People were just not … it didn't reach the level of fear, like the AIDS crisis, when AIDS exploded, it really exploded. And but at that time, it exploded only in certain communities. And you didn't have this fear that it would go to you because of the ways that it was transmitted. As a doctor, we were very, very concerned that it might be more transmissible than it is. And people were concerned about examining patients with HIV, people were concerned about doing surgery. That was a very legitimate concern. People in the medical community were very, very fearful when… we were very afraid when AIDS came out. And it exploded this did also. But people didn't make the same kind of connection because, you know, people were more vulnerable with COVID than with HIV. But the feeling was a similar feeling. There's still you know, there's a level of anxiety with HIV that I had then that I didn't have with COVID until it exploded."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So at the hospital or in these medical settings, were there any meetings or group discussions about the response?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, no. So there were meetings by the dean designated a few officials, medical deans and doctors and researchers to come up with a COVID plan. And then when the COVID plan was was made, it was transmitted to all of us by email blast. So we were not part of the discussion; a committee came up with the protocol. And then we learned about it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when that was?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.304271354729646, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. Yeah, that's right. But when you see a couple of cases you don't get, it doesn't raise your consciousness, doesn’t raise your antenna. You don't see that it's anything serious until it starts to explode. And it exploded quite quickly. But in February, the concern was there, but it was still not… people did not anticipate that a million Americans were die. It was people just didn't view it that way. So people were concerned, but not as much as… in hindsight it's very easy to look back and say this should have been done. But while it was happening? People were just not … it didn't reach the level of fear, like the AIDS crisis, when AIDS exploded, it really exploded. And but at that time, it exploded only in certain communities. And you didn't have this fear that it would go to you because of the ways that it was transmitted. As a doctor, we were very, very concerned that it might be more transmissible than it is. And people were concerned about examining patients with HIV, people were concerned about doing surgery. That was a very legitimate concern. People in the medical community were very, very fearful when… we were very afraid when AIDS came out. And it exploded this did also. But people didn't make the same kind of connection because, you know, people were more vulnerable with COVID than with HIV. But the feeling was a similar feeling. There's still you know, there's a level of anxiety with HIV that I had then that I didn't have with COVID until it exploded."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So at the hospital or in these medical settings, were there any meetings or group discussions about the response?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, no. So there were meetings by the dean designated a few officials, medical deans and doctors and researchers to come up with a COVID plan. And then when the COVID plan was was made, it was transmitted to all of us by email blast. So we were not part of the discussion; a committee came up with the protocol. And then we learned about it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when that was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was probably in late March. Early April."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Late March. Early April."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.893634838588495, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, no. So there were meetings by the dean designated a few officials, medical deans and doctors and researchers to come up with a COVID plan. And then when the COVID plan was was made, it was transmitted to all of us by email blast. So we were not part of the discussion; a committee came up with the protocol. And then we learned about it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when that was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was probably in late March. Early April."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Late March. Early April."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. When the lockdown when the lockdown occurred was when we we we you know, the schools was basically locked down. And we got the emails about what should be done, what what would happen if you got infected, that sort of thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So were there any but were there any meetings or discussions in February? before things really started exploding?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.548483153987217, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was probably in late March. Early April."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Late March. Early April."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. When the lockdown when the lockdown occurred was when we we we you know, the schools was basically locked down. And we got the emails about what should be done, what what would happen if you got infected, that sort of thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So were there any but were there any meetings or discussions in February? before things really started exploding?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exploded? No, no. The meetings occurred, the plan of attack occurred after mid-March, when the when the lockdown happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember if anyone was trying to push for action early?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.2760923933191295, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. When the lockdown when the lockdown occurred was when we we we you know, the schools was basically locked down. And we got the emails about what should be done, what what would happen if you got infected, that sort of thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So were there any but were there any meetings or discussions in February? before things really started exploding?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exploded? No, no. The meetings occurred, the plan of attack occurred after mid-March, when the when the lockdown happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember if anyone was trying to push for action early?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I was not aware of anybody doing that. Maybe there were individuals doing that. But I was totally unaware that that was happening behind the scenes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you saying maybe there were individuals doing that? Or you don't know?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.084547103687921, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exploded? No, no. The meetings occurred, the plan of attack occurred after mid-March, when the when the lockdown happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember if anyone was trying to push for action early?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I was not aware of anybody doing that. Maybe there were individuals doing that. But I was totally unaware that that was happening behind the scenes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you saying maybe there were individuals doing that? Or you don't know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. OK. I wasn't I wasn't calling my colleagues and saying, what should we do? So in my circle, my circle was was more research and clinicians. So so to give you a sense, I work at a clinic and there was no discussion among clinic doctors and the clinic administrators about any kind of protocol. Only after [organizations] created the protocol and after mid-March, when the lockdown occurred, then we had these discussions. But before that, there was no individuals saying we should act now, and make a complete plan before the administration tells us what to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that the hierarchy has something to do with that?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.9828301152088, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I was not aware of anybody doing that. Maybe there were individuals doing that. But I was totally unaware that that was happening behind the scenes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you saying maybe there were individuals doing that? Or you don't know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. OK. I wasn't I wasn't calling my colleagues and saying, what should we do? So in my circle, my circle was was more research and clinicians. So so to give you a sense, I work at a clinic and there was no discussion among clinic doctors and the clinic administrators about any kind of protocol. Only after [organizations] created the protocol and after mid-March, when the lockdown occurred, then we had these discussions. But before that, there was no individuals saying we should act now, and make a complete plan before the administration tells us what to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that the hierarchy has something to do with that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think so. I think that it just that was a very complicated issue, and I think people will, people were waiting for the committee; people on the committee were able to devote their time to trying to figure out what to do. Those of us who were not on the committee doing that didn't have the time to look at the CDC data and go through the CDC recommendations. So we were all kind of waiting for guidance because that's what happens. It's hard to make your own decisions because you don't have as much information as the committee does. So we were- I think I mean, that was for me, me and the few doctors that did contact my clinic, we were waiting for some kind of an executive decision."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you did contact some of your colleagues."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.08991372248, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think so. I think that it just that was a very complicated issue, and I think people will, people were waiting for the committee; people on the committee were able to devote their time to trying to figure out what to do. Those of us who were not on the committee doing that didn't have the time to look at the CDC data and go through the CDC recommendations. So we were all kind of waiting for guidance because that's what happens. It's hard to make your own decisions because you don't have as much information as the committee does. So we were- I think I mean, that was for me, me and the few doctors that did contact my clinic, we were waiting for some kind of an executive decision."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you did contact some of your colleagues."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Colleagues by email contact? I contacted contacted a couple of people in the program basically to find out what the plan was. needed. So we were thinking about what should we do? And we were waiting for the executive branch of the medical center to come up with a plan. Now, if that happened now, if we saw something similar to what was happening then, I think people might act earlier. But at the time, it was y’know standard protocol to sort of wait and see what the people who were in charge said to do. They they're the ones who had all the data and the time to think about a plan."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you were talking with the other clinicians, this would have been this would have been February because you got COVID in March."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we had no discussions in February. There was a window after we got after I got infected in March. And when… Well, there was a small window before we got the word from [medical school and hospital] about what the plan should be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But this window was during the first wave, correct?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.2110152472, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Colleagues by email contact? I contacted contacted a couple of people in the program basically to find out what the plan was. needed. So we were thinking about what should we do? And we were waiting for the executive branch of the medical center to come up with a plan. Now, if that happened now, if we saw something similar to what was happening then, I think people might act earlier. But at the time, it was y’know standard protocol to sort of wait and see what the people who were in charge said to do. They they're the ones who had all the data and the time to think about a plan."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you were talking with the other clinicians, this would have been this would have been February because you got COVID in March."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we had no discussions in February. There was a window after we got after I got infected in March. And when… Well, there was a small window before we got the word from [medical school and hospital] about what the plan should be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But this window was during the first wave, correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was really a very narrow window because once there was a nationwide lockdown, then you know, it came pretty quickly. The higher ups came up with a plan quite quickly. I don’t remember the exact time because it was really was within days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So one more question about the hospital. Then it's a few more psychological questions. So what do you wish, if anything, that they would have done differently?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 12.456683608, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we had no discussions in February. There was a window after we got after I got infected in March. And when… Well, there was a small window before we got the word from [medical school and hospital] about what the plan should be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But this window was during the first wave, correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was really a very narrow window because once there was a nationwide lockdown, then you know, it came pretty quickly. The higher ups came up with a plan quite quickly. I don’t remember the exact time because it was really was within days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So one more question about the hospital. Then it's a few more psychological questions. So what do you wish, if anything, that they would have done differently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, OK. I’ll be honest with you, I think that it was handled pretty well. I think that given the the the speed with which everything took off and the lack of knowledge about the infections and all that, I think that that on the on the hospital level, they were, you know, more or less appropriate. I mean, it would’ve been nice to be able to get tested at that time. But very few people were, there were no tests available. So I think that the major thing is that this was a nationwide problem, that it really impared the response. Because the government can order, can make things on a deficit. The hospitals can't just order masks and PPE without having a major economic compromise. The government can do that. They can go into debt and pay for it. So really in my view, it was a nationwide lapse as opposed to a health care system lapse."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is there anything you would have done differently as an individual?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.3992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really felt that they were being you know, too cautious. And in New York City, in Chinatown, people wear masks quite a bit. And I always thought that was a little bit odd. And kind of I felt the way I think Republicans feel about masks now. You know, ‘Why are you doing that, you’re being excessively cautious, it’s not cool’ and that kind of thing. And I view that the same way the way the way Republicans view mask wearing during the Covid crisis, [that] is the way I view seeing these Chinese tourists wear masks, they were being excessively cautious and it was not necessary, and again, it can only affect you and not be that's the big lesson."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's your that's the top line argument? You saw these things, but you felt that it wasn’t…."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I felt, I felt immune. I felt immune. And also, I didn't feel vulnerable at all. Because my age, because I'm healthy. And also the 1918 pandemic affected, it was the exact reversible state was in college in 1980 in the worst cases and the highest locality was among the young and here it's it's worse in people who are older so… I don't I don't I don't feel my age […] I didn't feel vulnerable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it seems like you weren't ever anxious at all or scared?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you treat the uncertainty about the new virus?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.32, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you treat the uncertainty about the new virus?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I basically followed the advice I locked down with everybody else. I followed the advice of the CDC and worked remotely. And the only thing we did that I did that was different, and again, this was a clinic wide policy, we only saw patients remotely. Patients came in for the treatment and they weren't being seen one on one the way we ordinarily do. So a lot of precautions were taken, but even I just never felt… I never felt vulnerable. I don't know what it is. I saw patients who eventually who had COVID infections coughing. I mean, I just took precautions. And, you know, doctors take risks when it comes to infections. And it's part of the it's part of the mentality. And I think that that was definitely my mentality, too, that it's, you know, we were brave soldiers exposing ourselves to the front line, attacked. There is that mentality in medicine for sure. Ebola would’ve scared me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the mortality is very high. Yeah that’s the other thing. I think that the mortality of COVID was the same ballpark as smallpox and bubonic plague and Ebola, I think that I would have been much much more frightened being around people, much more. But because the mortality was 1% or less, I just didn't feel as… that nervous. I wasn’t nervous that I was gonna die. But if I had Ebola, if I was an Ebola endemic the setting of this had the mortality of smallpox, I would have had a very, very different lens. But [the mortality rate] 1%. You always say it's the other person who's going to get sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This 1% was known pretty early yeah?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00005:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had a ton of needle sticks. And yeah, because we were sloppy. And two people in my year as an intern got Hep C, and we had a couple of people who had exposure to TB and the skin test turned positive they had to be treated. And I was I was exposed to quite a bit of TB in the late 1970s and that was much more and even then, even when I was treating, I was treating a patient who, who bled out from tuberculosis. She exsanguinated in front of me from a hemorrhage, hemorrhage in her lung, and she was spitting out God knows how many tuberculosis bacilli. And even then I didn't feel at all nervous. So that's just being cocky and young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well in this case… in this case, is it cockiness, or is it… obviously you work more than a full time job, so is this cockiness, or is this not doing the calculations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I think… well, I think that I was being cocky is naturally part of who you are as a health care professional. And the numbers were not that bad, but I have to tell you something. If I was working in the hospital the way my colleagues were, I think I would’ve been much more nervous."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah. I would have gone in if I was called. I mean, I would’ve gone in and done the PPE and all that stuff. But the seeing and hearing about nurses and doctors getting sick and dying, I definitely would have been much more cautious. So part of it is being cocky, but part of it is also the fact that I was not exposed in the way that my colleagues were exposed to it. I was not- I was working in a clinic and not in the hospital, and I think that working in the hospital would’ve changed would’ve taken away some of this cocky attitude."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, OK, we're getting up there in time. So I think we should I think we can end this interview pretty soon. Unless there is anything else to like to say?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.540200058704541, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I know the history of the village since it started up to date, and also I am the leader of ten houses in the village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you have said, you have been a leader of ten houses in the villages, for how long have you been in that position?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From 2015, because since the villages were distributed, it was only one ward as Mela, and before then it used to be called Mlandizi, and other pastoralist shifted to Mela. Mela was part of Melela, and later on it was divided, that is when Mela acquired a status of a village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We came here in February, comparing February up to October (2017) are there any changes that you haven observed in your village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A lot of changes have occurred Education on how to reduce the number of cattle, myself was a member in different meetings even to meet with top leaders. We were resistant at first; but later on we came to realise that the government had no bad intentions; it is when last month we came to agree and accept the idea that our cattle should be stamped for identification, and to reduce the herd size as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About the education that you were given, who was the provider?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.155777843005046, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From 2015, because since the villages were distributed, it was only one ward as Mela, and before then it used to be called Mlandizi, and other pastoralist shifted to Mela. Mela was part of Melela, and later on it was divided, that is when Mela acquired a status of a village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We came here in February, comparing February up to October (2017) are there any changes that you haven observed in your village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A lot of changes have occurred Education on how to reduce the number of cattle, myself was a member in different meetings even to meet with top leaders. We were resistant at first; but later on we came to realise that the government had no bad intentions; it is when last month we came to agree and accept the idea that our cattle should be stamped for identification, and to reduce the herd size as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About the education that you were given, who was the provider?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The government"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did they emphasise on, how many cattle is a person supposed to own?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.839753158894495, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A lot of changes have occurred Education on how to reduce the number of cattle, myself was a member in different meetings even to meet with top leaders. We were resistant at first; but later on we came to realise that the government had no bad intentions; it is when last month we came to agree and accept the idea that our cattle should be stamped for identification, and to reduce the herd size as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About the education that you were given, who was the provider?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The government"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did they emphasise on, how many cattle is a person supposed to own?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They emphasised mostly on having enough cattle that will bring development to the family or even the village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the response of the villagers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.377503509882772, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The government"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did they emphasise on, how many cattle is a person supposed to own?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They emphasised mostly on having enough cattle that will bring development to the family or even the village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the response of the villagers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At first we didn’t want to hear and accept about it, because we didn’t know any other activity or livelihood apart from keeping livestock. Our children are in schools because we sell livestock to get fees and school requirements. Also a person eats depending on livestock, but after the government gave us education about it, it is when we came to realise the importance of it. Even when MR. president said about “TANZANIA YA VIWANDA” “INDUSTRIALISED TANZANIA”, as we should depend on our own e.g. Meat, milk etc. so we came to the agreement about cattle/livestock herd reduction in order to reduce conflicts between farmers and pastoralists."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How having a lot of cattle’s/livestock lead to conflict?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.975003899869747, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They emphasised mostly on having enough cattle that will bring development to the family or even the village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the response of the villagers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At first we didn’t want to hear and accept about it, because we didn’t know any other activity or livelihood apart from keeping livestock. Our children are in schools because we sell livestock to get fees and school requirements. Also a person eats depending on livestock, but after the government gave us education about it, it is when we came to realise the importance of it. Even when MR. president said about “TANZANIA YA VIWANDA” “INDUSTRIALISED TANZANIA”, as we should depend on our own e.g. Meat, milk etc. so we came to the agreement about cattle/livestock herd reduction in order to reduce conflicts between farmers and pastoralists."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How having a lot of cattle’s/livestock lead to conflict?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some pastoralists are having a lot of cattle like 1000 of them and during the dry season when there is no enough pasture, so it’s either to buy pasture from one another or move to look for pasture and water, so due to that is when they tend to land on someone’s farm where animals then feed on crops and this how conflicts occur."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, you said earlier on that you were born here; comparing 15 years back, are the rich/poor households increasing or decreasing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.527782110966386, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At first we didn’t want to hear and accept about it, because we didn’t know any other activity or livelihood apart from keeping livestock. Our children are in schools because we sell livestock to get fees and school requirements. Also a person eats depending on livestock, but after the government gave us education about it, it is when we came to realise the importance of it. Even when MR. president said about “TANZANIA YA VIWANDA” “INDUSTRIALISED TANZANIA”, as we should depend on our own e.g. Meat, milk etc. so we came to the agreement about cattle/livestock herd reduction in order to reduce conflicts between farmers and pastoralists."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How having a lot of cattle’s/livestock lead to conflict?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some pastoralists are having a lot of cattle like 1000 of them and during the dry season when there is no enough pasture, so it’s either to buy pasture from one another or move to look for pasture and water, so due to that is when they tend to land on someone’s farm where animals then feed on crops and this how conflicts occur."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, you said earlier on that you were born here; comparing 15 years back, are the rich/poor households increasing or decreasing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is hard to say but I will try, because Maasai always stay as a family, you may find there are 2000 cattle in one place but only 50 people live in that compound, eat and do everything together. But for now things have changed, poor households are recognised as they depend on themselves or even when they ask for help no one offer them support. It is because of the history as it is not common to help others. Therefore one cannot just help because he has seen that others are not helping one another who are in need. This situation has made children who are in need not to go to school due to lack of school fees and no members of community are willing to offer support."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are poor household increasing or decreasing comparing to 10-15 years back?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.141980123295984, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some pastoralists are having a lot of cattle like 1000 of them and during the dry season when there is no enough pasture, so it’s either to buy pasture from one another or move to look for pasture and water, so due to that is when they tend to land on someone’s farm where animals then feed on crops and this how conflicts occur."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, you said earlier on that you were born here; comparing 15 years back, are the rich/poor households increasing or decreasing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is hard to say but I will try, because Maasai always stay as a family, you may find there are 2000 cattle in one place but only 50 people live in that compound, eat and do everything together. But for now things have changed, poor households are recognised as they depend on themselves or even when they ask for help no one offer them support. It is because of the history as it is not common to help others. Therefore one cannot just help because he has seen that others are not helping one another who are in need. This situation has made children who are in need not to go to school due to lack of school fees and no members of community are willing to offer support."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are poor household increasing or decreasing comparing to 10-15 years back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they decreased at some point and increased also. But what I can say generally poor households have increased."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are rich households increased or decreased?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.82442235921776, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is hard to say but I will try, because Maasai always stay as a family, you may find there are 2000 cattle in one place but only 50 people live in that compound, eat and do everything together. But for now things have changed, poor households are recognised as they depend on themselves or even when they ask for help no one offer them support. It is because of the history as it is not common to help others. Therefore one cannot just help because he has seen that others are not helping one another who are in need. This situation has made children who are in need not to go to school due to lack of school fees and no members of community are willing to offer support."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are poor household increasing or decreasing comparing to 10-15 years back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they decreased at some point and increased also. But what I can say generally poor households have increased."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are rich households increased or decreased?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have increased."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has led to this increase?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.582691510241955, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they decreased at some point and increased also. But what I can say generally poor households have increased."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are rich households increased or decreased?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have increased."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has led to this increase?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Due to business activities, sometimes when someone is so in-need they sell at least cattle in order to get the money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you talk about rich families/households, what exactly do you look at?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.202990566935505, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have increased."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has led to this increase?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Due to business activities, sometimes when someone is so in-need they sell at least cattle in order to get the money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you talk about rich families/households, what exactly do you look at?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Mela, when you say someone is rich first has a lot of cattle and can be able to eat 3 meals per day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you talk about a lot of cows/cattle what exactly is the number do you mean?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.89221174103945, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Due to business activities, sometimes when someone is so in-need they sell at least cattle in order to get the money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you talk about rich families/households, what exactly do you look at?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Mela, when you say someone is rich first has a lot of cattle and can be able to eat 3 meals per day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you talk about a lot of cows/cattle what exactly is the number do you mean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From 200 cattle onwards."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen rich households have increased so as poor households. Have you also seen any other changes concerning foods and lifestyles in general?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.658013045599389, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Mela, when you say someone is rich first has a lot of cattle and can be able to eat 3 meals per day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you talk about a lot of cows/cattle what exactly is the number do you mean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From 200 cattle onwards."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen rich households have increased so as poor households. Have you also seen any other changes concerning foods and lifestyles in general?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changes that we have seen is agriculture. Many people nowadays are into agriculture especially maize production because they cannot depend only on milk, because milk is just like water or sauce for Maasai."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you start eating other kinds of foods?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.286681161777098, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From 200 cattle onwards."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen rich households have increased so as poor households. Have you also seen any other changes concerning foods and lifestyles in general?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changes that we have seen is agriculture. Many people nowadays are into agriculture especially maize production because they cannot depend only on milk, because milk is just like water or sauce for Maasai."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you start eating other kinds of foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Living together as we all know before the Maasai did not know any other activity apart from livestock keeping, but later they have learned about agriculture. This happened when they shifted to Sangasanga. In 1980 they shifted again to Mlandizi, that’s when the Maasai got themselves into agriculture with others. So the main reason is living together with other people in the community apart from living in isolation i.e. Maasai only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, you said that farmers made the Maasai society change. Is it you who shifted to their community or they shifted to your community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.985201290863442, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changes that we have seen is agriculture. Many people nowadays are into agriculture especially maize production because they cannot depend only on milk, because milk is just like water or sauce for Maasai."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you start eating other kinds of foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Living together as we all know before the Maasai did not know any other activity apart from livestock keeping, but later they have learned about agriculture. This happened when they shifted to Sangasanga. In 1980 they shifted again to Mlandizi, that’s when the Maasai got themselves into agriculture with others. So the main reason is living together with other people in the community apart from living in isolation i.e. Maasai only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, you said that farmers made the Maasai society change. Is it you who shifted to their community or they shifted to your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we were partners before everyone shifted to their own place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What tribe made you start ploughing or agriculture?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.650223656514935, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Living together as we all know before the Maasai did not know any other activity apart from livestock keeping, but later they have learned about agriculture. This happened when they shifted to Sangasanga. In 1980 they shifted again to Mlandizi, that’s when the Maasai got themselves into agriculture with others. So the main reason is living together with other people in the community apart from living in isolation i.e. Maasai only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, you said that farmers made the Maasai society change. Is it you who shifted to their community or they shifted to your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we were partners before everyone shifted to their own place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What tribe made you start ploughing or agriculture?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Different tribes but for the case of our village the Gogos made us plough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did it start, that Maasai started to interact with other tribes and led to these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.278026285016595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we were partners before everyone shifted to their own place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What tribe made you start ploughing or agriculture?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Different tribes but for the case of our village the Gogos made us plough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did it start, that Maasai started to interact with other tribes and led to these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the changes started in 2000. However there were others who left the village because they did not want to interact with others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where exactly did that other tribe come from?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.753362538907328, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Different tribes but for the case of our village the Gogos made us plough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did it start, that Maasai started to interact with other tribes and led to these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the changes started in 2000. However there were others who left the village because they did not want to interact with others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where exactly did that other tribe come from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For example Gogos are from Dodoma"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, now would like to know, the interaction with other tribes, what effect has it brought to the community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 5.281513932119253, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the changes started in 2000. However there were others who left the village because they did not want to interact with others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where exactly did that other tribe come from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For example Gogos are from Dodoma"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, now would like to know, the interaction with other tribes, what effect has it brought to the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you plough you get benefit after selling the products or even use for home consumption."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any effects that have occurred?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5350154801325036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For example Gogos are from Dodoma"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, now would like to know, the interaction with other tribes, what effect has it brought to the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you plough you get benefit after selling the products or even use for home consumption."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any effects that have occurred?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our community there is no any effect that has occurred, but we can talk about health, Maasai used to use those local medicines, but when we started to interact with others, they now changed and tend to use other medicines as well, also getting married to Swahili women which was not normal and due to that is when HIV was noticed in the village. I as a leader decided to start a small training to people in the community about AIDS which was called EAPS ( EDUCATION OF AIDS FOR PASTORALIST SOCIETY)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are those changes affecting diet of children and women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.816683866813893, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you plough you get benefit after selling the products or even use for home consumption."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any effects that have occurred?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our community there is no any effect that has occurred, but we can talk about health, Maasai used to use those local medicines, but when we started to interact with others, they now changed and tend to use other medicines as well, also getting married to Swahili women which was not normal and due to that is when HIV was noticed in the village. I as a leader decided to start a small training to people in the community about AIDS which was called EAPS ( EDUCATION OF AIDS FOR PASTORALIST SOCIETY)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are those changes affecting diet of children and women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No much because others still do not eat foods like fish, sardines, eggs, chicken, though there are some of them eat, even my wife do not know how to cook them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, where exactly do you get to eat that kind of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1296487409043254, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our community there is no any effect that has occurred, but we can talk about health, Maasai used to use those local medicines, but when we started to interact with others, they now changed and tend to use other medicines as well, also getting married to Swahili women which was not normal and due to that is when HIV was noticed in the village. I as a leader decided to start a small training to people in the community about AIDS which was called EAPS ( EDUCATION OF AIDS FOR PASTORALIST SOCIETY)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are those changes affecting diet of children and women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No much because others still do not eat foods like fish, sardines, eggs, chicken, though there are some of them eat, even my wife do not know how to cook them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, where exactly do you get to eat that kind of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the hotels or restaurants"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For all the changes in diet and doing business, do you see any benefit from it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.4773874898936947, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No much because others still do not eat foods like fish, sardines, eggs, chicken, though there are some of them eat, even my wife do not know how to cook them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, where exactly do you get to eat that kind of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the hotels or restaurants"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For all the changes in diet and doing business, do you see any benefit from it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because in the past we didn’t know that we are lacking some of the nutrients from the foods that we were not consuming like cassava, fish, and chicken but now we plough cassava and eat other kinds of foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, apart from interaction with other tribes what else made you eat other kinds of foods?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.7526527665485494, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the hotels or restaurants"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For all the changes in diet and doing business, do you see any benefit from it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because in the past we didn’t know that we are lacking some of the nutrients from the foods that we were not consuming like cassava, fish, and chicken but now we plough cassava and eat other kinds of foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, apart from interaction with other tribes what else made you eat other kinds of foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education, as for me I took my ordinary level studies at Kigurunyembe Secondary School, it’s when I started eating all kinds of food, which also I learned how to prepare them Also the education we get from different NGOs that tend to visit us most of the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With the education you get, how does it help the household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9473919628317216, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because in the past we didn’t know that we are lacking some of the nutrients from the foods that we were not consuming like cassava, fish, and chicken but now we plough cassava and eat other kinds of foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, apart from interaction with other tribes what else made you eat other kinds of foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education, as for me I took my ordinary level studies at Kigurunyembe Secondary School, it’s when I started eating all kinds of food, which also I learned how to prepare them Also the education we get from different NGOs that tend to visit us most of the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With the education you get, how does it help the household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "NGO’S from SUA taught us on importance and groups of foods, and how to prepare them at households."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any challenges in the society/village that lead to shortage of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1637688475908017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education, as for me I took my ordinary level studies at Kigurunyembe Secondary School, it’s when I started eating all kinds of food, which also I learned how to prepare them Also the education we get from different NGOs that tend to visit us most of the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With the education you get, how does it help the household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "NGO’S from SUA taught us on importance and groups of foods, and how to prepare them at households."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any challenges in the society/village that lead to shortage of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Shortage of food, Yes, especially for poor households that depend on agriculture, but not for rich households that do not depend on agriculture. We have fertile soil and land but lack of education on how to cultivate other staples is causing food shortage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes the families lack food for a long period of time, like for a year?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.404187608434224, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "NGO’S from SUA taught us on importance and groups of foods, and how to prepare them at households."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any challenges in the society/village that lead to shortage of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Shortage of food, Yes, especially for poor households that depend on agriculture, but not for rich households that do not depend on agriculture. We have fertile soil and land but lack of education on how to cultivate other staples is causing food shortage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes the families lack food for a long period of time, like for a year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "??????"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any specific place where everyone takes their staple and non-staples for sell?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6713195649269155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Shortage of food, Yes, especially for poor households that depend on agriculture, but not for rich households that do not depend on agriculture. We have fertile soil and land but lack of education on how to cultivate other staples is causing food shortage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes the families lack food for a long period of time, like for a year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "??????"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any specific place where everyone takes their staple and non-staples for sell?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there is exactly place for selling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, when you need food or other stuffs where exactly do you get?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9681328499187947, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "??????"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any specific place where everyone takes their staple and non-staples for sell?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there is exactly place for selling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, when you need food or other stuffs where exactly do you get?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "from Nearby villages"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of water?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.2979253887986606, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there is exactly place for selling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, when you need food or other stuffs where exactly do you get?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "from Nearby villages"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are those who depend so much on rain so they wait for the rainy season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about water to use at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.553250431998512, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "from Nearby villages"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are those who depend so much on rain so they wait for the rainy season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about water to use at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is available, but there is a bit of challenge because the well was built by the World Bank, so it pumps water to different places even students also get some for their use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think lack/shortage of water leads to shortage of food in the household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.836944924442791, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are those who depend so much on rain so they wait for the rainy season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about water to use at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is available, but there is a bit of challenge because the well was built by the World Bank, so it pumps water to different places even students also get some for their use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think lack/shortage of water leads to shortage of food in the household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Irrigation system has made it easier to grow crops off-season, but also during the rainy season; you just prepare your field accordingly because rainy seasons are known."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What challenges do the villagers get concerning water use at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1521610271586566, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is available, but there is a bit of challenge because the well was built by the World Bank, so it pumps water to different places even students also get some for their use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think lack/shortage of water leads to shortage of food in the household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Irrigation system has made it easier to grow crops off-season, but also during the rainy season; you just prepare your field accordingly because rainy seasons are known."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What challenges do the villagers get concerning water use at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Challenges, tap breakdown, congestion of people at the time of water collection because everyone depends on that well, In order to solve this problem, probably another well should be built."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When there is shortage of food in the household, what do you do overcome the situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.5024011412873963, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Irrigation system has made it easier to grow crops off-season, but also during the rainy season; you just prepare your field accordingly because rainy seasons are known."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What challenges do the villagers get concerning water use at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Challenges, tap breakdown, congestion of people at the time of water collection because everyone depends on that well, In order to solve this problem, probably another well should be built."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When there is shortage of food in the household, what do you do overcome the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, if situation has occurred, you just sell one cow which you know exactly you get enough money to cover up the situation at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How much does it cost for a cow now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.7804457125415514, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Challenges, tap breakdown, congestion of people at the time of water collection because everyone depends on that well, In order to solve this problem, probably another well should be built."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When there is shortage of food in the household, what do you do overcome the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, if situation has occurred, you just sell one cow which you know exactly you get enough money to cover up the situation at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How much does it cost for a cow now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends with the situation it ranges from 500,000 to 700,000 TZS."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So for those who are not well what do they do, if others are doing business?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9782730139350568, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, if situation has occurred, you just sell one cow which you know exactly you get enough money to cover up the situation at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How much does it cost for a cow now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends with the situation it ranges from 500,000 to 700,000 TZS."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So for those who are not well what do they do, if others are doing business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the ones that cannot do business, they will just pass around to the neighbours and ask for help just for that day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do others do if the household does not have enough food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1980811265945075, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends with the situation it ranges from 500,000 to 700,000 TZS."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So for those who are not well what do they do, if others are doing business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the ones that cannot do business, they will just pass around to the neighbours and ask for help just for that day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do others do if the household does not have enough food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Look for help from the neighbours or just pray to God."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about to slaughter cattle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.442312362882786, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the ones that cannot do business, they will just pass around to the neighbours and ask for help just for that day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do others do if the household does not have enough food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Look for help from the neighbours or just pray to God."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about to slaughter cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For us Maasai, yes we do slaughter and eat a lot but for now we have reduced, we are after money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you prefer money to food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7136804032030954, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Look for help from the neighbours or just pray to God."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about to slaughter cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For us Maasai, yes we do slaughter and eat a lot but for now we have reduced, we are after money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you prefer money to food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education, because when we slaughter everyone come to eat even the enemy which I don’t like."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times do you slaughter in a month?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0152004480034393, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For us Maasai, yes we do slaughter and eat a lot but for now we have reduced, we are after money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you prefer money to food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education, because when we slaughter everyone come to eat even the enemy which I don’t like."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times do you slaughter in a month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now it can even pass a month without slaughtering at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, the meat you eat, where do you get it from?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.3502227200038215, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education, because when we slaughter everyone come to eat even the enemy which I don’t like."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times do you slaughter in a month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now it can even pass a month without slaughtering at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, the meat you eat, where do you get it from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe if there is a ceremony, but previously we used to depend on meat and blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you only slaughter when there is ceremony?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6113585777820236, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now it can even pass a month without slaughtering at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, the meat you eat, where do you get it from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe if there is a ceremony, but previously we used to depend on meat and blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you only slaughter when there is ceremony?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Its true, only during ceremonies or yearly, especially during the time when teenagers are going to their initiation ceremonies that is when we slaughter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about those who are left behind?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.901509530868915, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe if there is a ceremony, but previously we used to depend on meat and blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you only slaughter when there is ceremony?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Its true, only during ceremonies or yearly, especially during the time when teenagers are going to their initiation ceremonies that is when we slaughter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about those who are left behind?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will find their ways of surviving,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During shortage of food, what exactly do people eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.112788367632128, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Its true, only during ceremonies or yearly, especially during the time when teenagers are going to their initiation ceremonies that is when we slaughter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about those who are left behind?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will find their ways of surviving,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During shortage of food, what exactly do people eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for most Maasai they have cows; obviously they will depend on that especially milk and meat, as we had this program called MORE MILK they educated us about milk and how to store if someone has excess milk and don’t know where to take it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When there is no enough food at home, who exactly gets the first priority during serving?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3475426307023644, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will find their ways of surviving,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During shortage of food, what exactly do people eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for most Maasai they have cows; obviously they will depend on that especially milk and meat, as we had this program called MORE MILK they educated us about milk and how to store if someone has excess milk and don’t know where to take it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When there is no enough food at home, who exactly gets the first priority during serving?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children and Elders; Sometimes even the father in the house OR when the food has been distributed to the children is when others get. Mothers sacrifice a lot in order for everyone to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, for your own views what group suffers a lot when there is shortage of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6083807007804047, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "for most Maasai they have cows; obviously they will depend on that especially milk and meat, as we had this program called MORE MILK they educated us about milk and how to store if someone has excess milk and don’t know where to take it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When there is no enough food at home, who exactly gets the first priority during serving?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children and Elders; Sometimes even the father in the house OR when the food has been distributed to the children is when others get. Mothers sacrifice a lot in order for everyone to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, for your own views what group suffers a lot when there is shortage of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The group that suffers a lot are those poor families/households, elders, children because they cannot go far to look for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do men do when there is shortage of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.898200778644894, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children and Elders; Sometimes even the father in the house OR when the food has been distributed to the children is when others get. Mothers sacrifice a lot in order for everyone to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you, for your own views what group suffers a lot when there is shortage of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The group that suffers a lot are those poor families/households, elders, children because they cannot go far to look for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do men do when there is shortage of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They suffer a lot; they will do anything in order to get something for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did you say that children, elders and women are the ones that suffer a lot when there is shortage of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1091119762721044, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The group that suffers a lot are those poor families/households, elders, children because they cannot go far to look for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do men do when there is shortage of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They suffer a lot; they will do anything in order to get something for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did you say that children, elders and women are the ones that suffer a lot when there is shortage of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s because they are the ones that stay home all the time, so you may find sometimes a man goes out to drink without leaving money behind for the family and yet come back at night and ask for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your village, what should be done in order to eradicate this problem of food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.343457751413449, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They suffer a lot; they will do anything in order to get something for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did you say that children, elders and women are the ones that suffer a lot when there is shortage of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s because they are the ones that stay home all the time, so you may find sometimes a man goes out to drink without leaving money behind for the family and yet come back at night and ask for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your village, what should be done in order to eradicate this problem of food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As for me, if I could be able to persuade people to practice agriculture especially mixed farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at your village, what percent of people engage themselves in agriculture?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6038419460149433, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s because they are the ones that stay home all the time, so you may find sometimes a man goes out to drink without leaving money behind for the family and yet come back at night and ask for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your village, what should be done in order to eradicate this problem of food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As for me, if I could be able to persuade people to practice agriculture especially mixed farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at your village, what percent of people engage themselves in agriculture?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very few of them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from agriculture, what else can be done in order to reduce shortage of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.8931577177943812, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As for me, if I could be able to persuade people to practice agriculture especially mixed farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at your village, what percent of people engage themselves in agriculture?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very few of them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from agriculture, what else can be done in order to reduce shortage of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk business if only there could be a centre in our village. NOW CAN WE TALK ABOUT WEATHER CHANGES"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can you say about environmental or weather changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.10350857532709, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very few of them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from agriculture, what else can be done in order to reduce shortage of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk business if only there could be a centre in our village. NOW CAN WE TALK ABOUT WEATHER CHANGES"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can you say about environmental or weather changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you talk about environmental changes it can be in a very wide range, let’s just talk about weather changes. For example last year when there was too much drought a lot of cattle died due to lack of pasture and water, this situation made other households to suffer a lot because they depend on milk and meat, some other people were about to commit suicide, but we thank God it did not happen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you say about weather change what do you really mean?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.3372317503634332, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk business if only there could be a centre in our village. NOW CAN WE TALK ABOUT WEATHER CHANGES"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can you say about environmental or weather changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you talk about environmental changes it can be in a very wide range, let’s just talk about weather changes. For example last year when there was too much drought a lot of cattle died due to lack of pasture and water, this situation made other households to suffer a lot because they depend on milk and meat, some other people were about to commit suicide, but we thank God it did not happen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you say about weather change what do you really mean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "when we say weather change, it means periods which usually happen In here, rainy season and dry season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did it really happen?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.37470194484825914, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you talk about environmental changes it can be in a very wide range, let’s just talk about weather changes. For example last year when there was too much drought a lot of cattle died due to lack of pasture and water, this situation made other households to suffer a lot because they depend on milk and meat, some other people were about to commit suicide, but we thank God it did not happen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you say about weather change what do you really mean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "when we say weather change, it means periods which usually happen In here, rainy season and dry season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did it really happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Previously it happened in 2000, 2007 but during this period the cattle did not die like in this year (2017), this was the longest dry season we have ever experienced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What brought all these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4163354942758435, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "when we say weather change, it means periods which usually happen In here, rainy season and dry season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did it really happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Previously it happened in 2000, 2007 but during this period the cattle did not die like in this year (2017), this was the longest dry season we have ever experienced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What brought all these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t have a real answer to this question but for my guess I might say, may be due to cutting down of trees for charcoal and having a lot of cattle moving from one place to another looking for pasture also can be a reason to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did inadequate food, having a lot of cattle, little rain have affected the people of Mela?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4625949936398261, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Previously it happened in 2000, 2007 but during this period the cattle did not die like in this year (2017), this was the longest dry season we have ever experienced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What brought all these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t have a real answer to this question but for my guess I might say, may be due to cutting down of trees for charcoal and having a lot of cattle moving from one place to another looking for pasture also can be a reason to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did inadequate food, having a lot of cattle, little rain have affected the people of Mela?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All these changes have affected people, because some of them depend on the milk for sale even for personal use but unfortunately not anymore, so you may find a lot of people are suffering, and this is due to lack of pasture and water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I Would like also to know all these changes, like too much drought in an area how are the feeds affected?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5139944373775845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t have a real answer to this question but for my guess I might say, may be due to cutting down of trees for charcoal and having a lot of cattle moving from one place to another looking for pasture also can be a reason to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did inadequate food, having a lot of cattle, little rain have affected the people of Mela?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All these changes have affected people, because some of them depend on the milk for sale even for personal use but unfortunately not anymore, so you may find a lot of people are suffering, and this is due to lack of pasture and water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I Would like also to know all these changes, like too much drought in an area how are the feeds affected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lack of pasture and water, a lot of places were dried up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do people do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5711049304195384, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All these changes have affected people, because some of them depend on the milk for sale even for personal use but unfortunately not anymore, so you may find a lot of people are suffering, and this is due to lack of pasture and water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I Would like also to know all these changes, like too much drought in an area how are the feeds affected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lack of pasture and water, a lot of places were dried up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do people do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the cattle are being shifted from one place to another."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where do you usually take them when you say you are shifting the cattle from one place to another?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.634561033799487, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lack of pasture and water, a lot of places were dried up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do people do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the cattle are being shifted from one place to another."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where do you usually take them when you say you are shifting the cattle from one place to another?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just other place where we can get pasture and water for the cattle ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you shift with the cattle what exactly do people eat there?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7050678153327633, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the cattle are being shifted from one place to another."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where do you usually take them when you say you are shifting the cattle from one place to another?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just other place where we can get pasture and water for the cattle ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you shift with the cattle what exactly do people eat there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We usually carry food with us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for those who remain behind?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7834086837030703, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just other place where we can get pasture and water for the cattle ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you shift with the cattle what exactly do people eat there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We usually carry food with us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for those who remain behind?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat ugali and stew, or any other stew that is available"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "due to this weather change like too much drought, did it make people change their personal activities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8704540930034114, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We usually carry food with us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for those who remain behind?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat ugali and stew, or any other stew that is available"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "due to this weather change like too much drought, did it make people change their personal activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "if we talk about activities that increase capital, for real it’s hard, in Mela there are no people who deal with this small business, so you may find it is very difficult to start a business in Mela, and during this situation like dry season is when they sell cow in order to get money and buy food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Mela, apart from livestock keeping there is no any other business or activity that people practice?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9671712144482348, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat ugali and stew, or any other stew that is available"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "due to this weather change like too much drought, did it make people change their personal activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "if we talk about activities that increase capital, for real it’s hard, in Mela there are no people who deal with this small business, so you may find it is very difficult to start a business in Mela, and during this situation like dry season is when they sell cow in order to get money and buy food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Mela, apart from livestock keeping there is no any other business or activity that people practice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So there is no any other activity that people do?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do people go far from the village to look for other jobs or activities to do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0746346827202609, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "if we talk about activities that increase capital, for real it’s hard, in Mela there are no people who deal with this small business, so you may find it is very difficult to start a business in Mela, and during this situation like dry season is when they sell cow in order to get money and buy food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Mela, apart from livestock keeping there is no any other business or activity that people practice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So there is no any other activity that people do?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do people go far from the village to look for other jobs or activities to do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are people who do that, especially youths are the ones who most of them go to town and look for jobs in the companies, which help them get money and provide food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does this change affect milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1940385363558454, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So there is no any other activity that people do?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do people go far from the village to look for other jobs or activities to do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are people who do that, especially youths are the ones who most of them go to town and look for jobs in the companies, which help them get money and provide food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does this change affect milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "of course it did affect due to lack of pasture"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any changes due to roles in the family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3267094848398282, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are people who do that, especially youths are the ones who most of them go to town and look for jobs in the companies, which help them get money and provide food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does this change affect milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "of course it did affect due to lack of pasture"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any changes due to roles in the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there are changes like misunderstanding in the family between wife and husband, you may find husband going out to drink while the family has no food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does weather change led to increase or decrease of conflict between farmers and pastoralist?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4741216498220313, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "of course it did affect due to lack of pasture"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any changes due to roles in the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there are changes like misunderstanding in the family between wife and husband, you may find husband going out to drink while the family has no food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does weather change led to increase or decrease of conflict between farmers and pastoralist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Weather change had led to increase of conflict between farmers and pastoralist,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For those who depend much on milk, what do they do when the cattle are shifted?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6379129442467013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there are changes like misunderstanding in the family between wife and husband, you may find husband going out to drink while the family has no food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does weather change led to increase or decrease of conflict between farmers and pastoralist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Weather change had led to increase of conflict between farmers and pastoralist,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For those who depend much on milk, what do they do when the cattle are shifted?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They should learn to eat other kinds of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for the children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8199032713852237, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Weather change had led to increase of conflict between farmers and pastoralist,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For those who depend much on milk, what do they do when the cattle are shifted?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They should learn to eat other kinds of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also they should learn to eat other kinds of food, but sometimes they get milk from goats"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Goats are not affected with the weather changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0221147459835818, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They should learn to eat other kinds of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also they should learn to eat other kinds of food, but sometimes they get milk from goats"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Goats are not affected with the weather changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, nowadays goats milk is acceptable?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2467941622039795, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also they should learn to eat other kinds of food, but sometimes they get milk from goats"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Goats are not affected with the weather changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, nowadays goats milk is acceptable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "YES"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "NOW I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT CHANGE IN ROLES IN THE COMMUNITY You said in Mela there is no any other activity done by youths apart from them going to town and look for jobs."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.496437958004422, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, nowadays goats milk is acceptable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "YES"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "NOW I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT CHANGE IN ROLES IN THE COMMUNITY You said in Mela there is no any other activity done by youths apart from them going to town and look for jobs."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them they do go to towns and return back but not girls."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the difference?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6627088422271354, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "YES"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "NOW I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT CHANGE IN ROLES IN THE COMMUNITY You said in Mela there is no any other activity done by youths apart from them going to town and look for jobs."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them they do go to towns and return back but not girls."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the difference?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some girls end up getting married by the “Swahilis\"; For us Maasai, we don’t like to interact with the “Swahilis” especially in marriage issues. So it is hard for the girls to come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So even here in Mela, there are youths who do not practice any other activity?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8474542691412617, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them they do go to towns and return back but not girls."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the difference?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some girls end up getting married by the “Swahilis\"; For us Maasai, we don’t like to interact with the “Swahilis” especially in marriage issues. So it is hard for the girls to come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So even here in Mela, there are youths who do not practice any other activity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is hard. But if there was provision of education about agriculture irrigation and provision of loans, youths would participate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do people in Mela do in order to overcome this situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.052726965712513, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some girls end up getting married by the “Swahilis\"; For us Maasai, we don’t like to interact with the “Swahilis” especially in marriage issues. So it is hard for the girls to come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So even here in Mela, there are youths who do not practice any other activity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is hard. But if there was provision of education about agriculture irrigation and provision of loans, youths would participate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do people in Mela do in order to overcome this situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our Chairperson writes letters to government and other authorities to ask for help to address this situation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When the youth come back from town, what do other people think of them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.28080773968057, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is hard. But if there was provision of education about agriculture irrigation and provision of loans, youths would participate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do people in Mela do in order to overcome this situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our Chairperson writes letters to government and other authorities to ask for help to address this situation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When the youth come back from town, what do other people think of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He/she can help the family from the income that he/she earned while working in town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we were here in the February (2017), we heard that roles of the women have changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5342308218673, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our Chairperson writes letters to government and other authorities to ask for help to address this situation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When the youth come back from town, what do other people think of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He/she can help the family from the income that he/she earned while working in town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we were here in the February (2017), we heard that roles of the women have changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes women have become more independent and obtained education. When a woman is given independence she can do anything in order for the family to get something to eat and also are free to do anything that they want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for those who are free to do anything they want, have they brought any changes in the family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8158120242969997, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He/she can help the family from the income that he/she earned while working in town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we were here in the February (2017), we heard that roles of the women have changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes women have become more independent and obtained education. When a woman is given independence she can do anything in order for the family to get something to eat and also are free to do anything that they want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for those who are free to do anything they want, have they brought any changes in the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are a lot of changes; because they are now free to do other things, it has reduced the burden on the husband who has to provide for everything; so sometimes you may find even the menu has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any effect when you give a woman freedom to do something?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.1286800269966664, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes women have become more independent and obtained education. When a woman is given independence she can do anything in order for the family to get something to eat and also are free to do anything that they want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for those who are free to do anything they want, have they brought any changes in the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are a lot of changes; because they are now free to do other things, it has reduced the burden on the husband who has to provide for everything; so sometimes you may find even the menu has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any effect when you give a woman freedom to do something?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, when they go out there, they can easily be influenced by people of different kind and can lead to misunderstanding in the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "CHANGE IN CULTURE, HOW DID IT CHANGE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE AND THOSE WHO CAME/MIGRATED?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2540889188851845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are a lot of changes; because they are now free to do other things, it has reduced the burden on the husband who has to provide for everything; so sometimes you may find even the menu has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any effect when you give a woman freedom to do something?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, when they go out there, they can easily be influenced by people of different kind and can lead to misunderstanding in the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "CHANGE IN CULTURE, HOW DID IT CHANGE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE AND THOSE WHO CAME/MIGRATED?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any problem like living with the Gogo; but not any other tribe like from Kilosa when they come in our village we really don’t like them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For now, are there any tribes that live here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3934321320946494, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, when they go out there, they can easily be influenced by people of different kind and can lead to misunderstanding in the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "CHANGE IN CULTURE, HOW DID IT CHANGE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE AND THOSE WHO CAME/MIGRATED?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any problem like living with the Gogo; but not any other tribe like from Kilosa when they come in our village we really don’t like them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For now, are there any tribes that live here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any people moving from here to other villages"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5482579245496104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any problem like living with the Gogo; but not any other tribe like from Kilosa when they come in our village we really don’t like them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For now, are there any tribes that live here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any people moving from here to other villages"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, apart from those who move with cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And those who go to town, when they are back do they still practice livestock keeping activities e.g. grazing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7202865828329004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any people moving from here to other villages"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, apart from those who move with cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And those who go to town, when they are back do they still practice livestock keeping activities e.g. grazing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "YES"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Living with other tribes, has it brought any effect to the community, like food etc?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9114295364810003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, apart from those who move with cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And those who go to town, when they are back do they still practice livestock keeping activities e.g. grazing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "YES"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Living with other tribes, has it brought any effect to the community, like food etc?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "NO, but we have learned different things from them, and also we learn how to live with different people because before coming of new tribes the Maasai people used to isolate themselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is said that when youths go to town they bring changes to the community what can you say about it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.1238105960900002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "YES"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Living with other tribes, has it brought any effect to the community, like food etc?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "NO, but we have learned different things from them, and also we learn how to live with different people because before coming of new tribes the Maasai people used to isolate themselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is said that when youths go to town they bring changes to the community what can you say about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For those who understands the situation find it okay; but for others they still find it as a challenge and that it is not good for their community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Inter tribe interaction has brought them to try different kinds of foods, which cash crop is more available in this area?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2486784401000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "NO, but we have learned different things from them, and also we learn how to live with different people because before coming of new tribes the Maasai people used to isolate themselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is said that when youths go to town they bring changes to the community what can you say about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For those who understands the situation find it okay; but for others they still find it as a challenge and that it is not good for their community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Inter tribe interaction has brought them to try different kinds of foods, which cash crop is more available in this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize, because it is what they cultivate a lot, but there is no market that is specific for Maasai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you said earlier that during the dry season the Maasai shift cattle to other areas for pasture and water, who specifically takes the cattle for grazing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3874204890000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For those who understands the situation find it okay; but for others they still find it as a challenge and that it is not good for their community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Inter tribe interaction has brought them to try different kinds of foods, which cash crop is more available in this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize, because it is what they cultivate a lot, but there is no market that is specific for Maasai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you said earlier that during the dry season the Maasai shift cattle to other areas for pasture and water, who specifically takes the cattle for grazing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Youth"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there changes on how to prepare food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize, because it is what they cultivate a lot, but there is no market that is specific for Maasai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you said earlier that during the dry season the Maasai shift cattle to other areas for pasture and water, who specifically takes the cattle for grazing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Youth"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there changes on how to prepare food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Before, the Maasai used to make very hard stiff porridge but later on they learnt how to prepare stiff porridge, even how to make stew and cook Pilau."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now would like to talk about conflicts between farmers and pastoralist"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Youth"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there changes on how to prepare food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Before, the Maasai used to make very hard stiff porridge but later on they learnt how to prepare stiff porridge, even how to make stew and cook Pilau."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now would like to talk about conflicts between farmers and pastoralist"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no conflict in Mela"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do people learn about healthy living, and Balanced diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Before, the Maasai used to make very hard stiff porridge but later on they learnt how to prepare stiff porridge, even how to make stew and cook Pilau."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now would like to talk about conflicts between farmers and pastoralist"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no conflict in Mela"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do people learn about healthy living, and Balanced diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no hospital or dispensary in Mela, but when they go for RCH services is when they are educated on how and what to eat during pregnancy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else is being taught about healthy living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no conflict in Mela"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do people learn about healthy living, and Balanced diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no hospital or dispensary in Mela, but when they go for RCH services is when they are educated on how and what to eat during pregnancy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else is being taught about healthy living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The child is supposed to eat good food and also the mother, porridge should be mixed with milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What should be done in order for this information to reach everyone in the community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no hospital or dispensary in Mela, but when they go for RCH services is when they are educated on how and what to eat during pregnancy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else is being taught about healthy living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The child is supposed to eat good food and also the mother, porridge should be mixed with milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What should be done in order for this information to reach everyone in the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There should be nurses coming twice a week in order to educate people in the community,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To whom should this education be provided to?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There should be nurses coming twice a week in order to educate people in the community,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To whom should this education be provided to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the mother is the one who is so closer to the child than any other person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from hospitals, do you think schools can be used to provide that kind of education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the mother is the one who is so closer to the child than any other person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from hospitals, do you think schools can be used to provide that kind of education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes if there is that opportunity then it is okay, but even NGOs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do people in Mela use radios?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the mother is the one who is so closer to the child than any other person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from hospitals, do you think schools can be used to provide that kind of education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes if there is that opportunity then it is okay, but even NGOs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do people in Mela use radios?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "NO, I have not seen that in here, but something should be done in order for the knowledge to reach many people. Agriculture education should also be provided."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Whom do you think will be able to educate other people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes if there is that opportunity then it is okay, but even NGOs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do people in Mela use radios?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "NO, I have not seen that in here, but something should be done in order for the knowledge to reach many people. Agriculture education should also be provided."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Whom do you think will be able to educate other people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We will choose people who are literate, able to read and write, who will be able to spread the knowledge to other people. Thank you so much MR. Kassim we have reach the end of out conversation, unless you have some concerns.\n\nWhat we would like to request is for dispensary and infrastructure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about balanced diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00042:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "NO, I have not seen that in here, but something should be done in order for the knowledge to reach many people. Agriculture education should also be provided."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Whom do you think will be able to educate other people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We will choose people who are literate, able to read and write, who will be able to spread the knowledge to other people. Thank you so much MR. Kassim we have reach the end of out conversation, unless you have some concerns.\n\nWhat we would like to request is for dispensary and infrastructure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about balanced diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I think we should change how we eat for our health, like cassava etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Again thank you so much, we have reached the end of our interview, thank you for your cooperation."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.829026047654913, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, great."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so I guess start… How old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Mid 40s]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where are you located?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm in [location] outside of New York City. The main practices were located in New York City, though, in Jackson Heights and Corona."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that where you work now?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.69891783072768, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Mid 40s]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where are you located?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm in [location] outside of New York City. The main practices were located in New York City, though, in Jackson Heights and Corona."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that where you work now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[PII redacted]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's your position."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.66546425636409, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm in [location] outside of New York City. The main practices were located in New York City, though, in Jackson Heights and Corona."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that where you work now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[PII redacted]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's your position."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nurse practitioner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And was that what you were doing in January 2020."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.406071395960098, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[PII redacted]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's your position."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nurse practitioner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And was that what you were doing in January 2020."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In January of 2020. I was four days a week in [Queens neighborhood]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "as a nurse practitioner?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.228968217733442, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nurse practitioner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And was that what you were doing in January 2020."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In January of 2020. I was four days a week in [Queens neighborhood]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "as a nurse practitioner?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of facility?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.032186908592713, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In January of 2020. I was four days a week in [Queens neighborhood]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "as a nurse practitioner?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of facility?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, it's a Medicaid clinic, so it's an article 28 facility. And we thought that they'd probably lean on us. No, not at all.\n\nThat was the original intent on paper of those facilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's Article 28."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.8135410095474604, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of facility?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, it's a Medicaid clinic, so it's an article 28 facility. And we thought that they'd probably lean on us. No, not at all.\n\nThat was the original intent on paper of those facilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's Article 28."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eight? It meant that it's actually regulated by the New York State Health Department, so that we're supposed to be a community outreach.\n\nOh, yes. So we thought that we would never close during any crisis, which we didn’t. We stayed open, but they didn't really need us for anything. They took over other facilities. They took over surgical facilities to use their space but they did nothing with us.\n\nSo, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you’re an LPN-"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.681712232830511, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, it's a Medicaid clinic, so it's an article 28 facility. And we thought that they'd probably lean on us. No, not at all.\n\nThat was the original intent on paper of those facilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's Article 28."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eight? It meant that it's actually regulated by the New York State Health Department, so that we're supposed to be a community outreach.\n\nOh, yes. So we thought that we would never close during any crisis, which we didn’t. We stayed open, but they didn't really need us for anything. They took over other facilities. They took over surgical facilities to use their space but they did nothing with us.\n\nSo, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you’re an LPN-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A nurse practitioner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nurse practitioner at these clinics."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.646346925367235, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eight? It meant that it's actually regulated by the New York State Health Department, so that we're supposed to be a community outreach.\n\nOh, yes. So we thought that we would never close during any crisis, which we didn’t. We stayed open, but they didn't really need us for anything. They took over other facilities. They took over surgical facilities to use their space but they did nothing with us.\n\nSo, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you’re an LPN-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A nurse practitioner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nurse practitioner at these clinics."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Clinics that. Yes, essentially they end up being like multi-specialty clinics that cater to Medicaid people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So how many patients do you have."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.718163250408038, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A nurse practitioner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nurse practitioner at these clinics."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Clinics that. Yes, essentially they end up being like multi-specialty clinics that cater to Medicaid people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So how many patients do you have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not a lot. Couple of hundred. Yeah. The the clinic predated the change in the neighborhood. So the neighbor has been gentrified. But remember, we still have patients, but they're kind of they're traveling into us now.\n\nThe other office, I probably have more now. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I thought you worked at [Assisted Living Facility]."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 10.797959167120041, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Clinics that. Yes, essentially they end up being like multi-specialty clinics that cater to Medicaid people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So how many patients do you have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not a lot. Couple of hundred. Yeah. The the clinic predated the change in the neighborhood. So the neighbor has been gentrified. But remember, we still have patients, but they're kind of they're traveling into us now.\n\nThe other office, I probably have more now. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I thought you worked at [Assisted Living Facility]."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Assisted Living Facility]. One morning a week."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So so when did you first hear about COVID?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.775510185688933, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not a lot. Couple of hundred. Yeah. The the clinic predated the change in the neighborhood. So the neighbor has been gentrified. But remember, we still have patients, but they're kind of they're traveling into us now.\n\nThe other office, I probably have more now. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I thought you worked at [Assisted Living Facility]."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Assisted Living Facility]. One morning a week."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So so when did you first hear about COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably around the time that they diagnosed the guy in Seattle. So I want to say that was around the end of January 2020."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me some more about that?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.528344650765482, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Assisted Living Facility]. One morning a week."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So so when did you first hear about COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably around the time that they diagnosed the guy in Seattle. So I want to say that was around the end of January 2020."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me some more about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It seemed like it was going to be a problem, to be honest. And our some patients were getting nervous and everybody had an upper respiratory infection at that point, which turned out to be nothing. But they were really quite concerned. We ended up we were having a somewhat awkward flu season that year to begin with. In December we ended up with a bunch of hospitalized upper respiratory infections and all of their liver enzymes went out which had seemed abnormal to everybody.\n\nSo by the time we heard about COVID, everybody was already curious. I didn't think it was going to be as bad as it was in January."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it seemed like it was going to be a problem. You said."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.253716278628313, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably around the time that they diagnosed the guy in Seattle. So I want to say that was around the end of January 2020."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me some more about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It seemed like it was going to be a problem, to be honest. And our some patients were getting nervous and everybody had an upper respiratory infection at that point, which turned out to be nothing. But they were really quite concerned. We ended up we were having a somewhat awkward flu season that year to begin with. In December we ended up with a bunch of hospitalized upper respiratory infections and all of their liver enzymes went out which had seemed abnormal to everybody.\n\nSo by the time we heard about COVID, everybody was already curious. I didn't think it was going to be as bad as it was in January."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it seemed like it was going to be a problem. You said."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah. There was no way that it's not going to be a problem.\n\nYou know, like, you could hope that it was going to be like, SARS or MERS, but things just spread, there’s too much travel now. And once, once we started getting hints that China was building really rapid medical facilities, you knew that there was something there And I was jealous because we would never be able to build a really rapid medical facility."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, thank you. That OK? Yes. That was exactly the logic I had at the time."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.059684754031458, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It seemed like it was going to be a problem, to be honest. And our some patients were getting nervous and everybody had an upper respiratory infection at that point, which turned out to be nothing. But they were really quite concerned. We ended up we were having a somewhat awkward flu season that year to begin with. In December we ended up with a bunch of hospitalized upper respiratory infections and all of their liver enzymes went out which had seemed abnormal to everybody.\n\nSo by the time we heard about COVID, everybody was already curious. I didn't think it was going to be as bad as it was in January."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it seemed like it was going to be a problem. You said."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah. There was no way that it's not going to be a problem.\n\nYou know, like, you could hope that it was going to be like, SARS or MERS, but things just spread, there’s too much travel now. And once, once we started getting hints that China was building really rapid medical facilities, you knew that there was something there And I was jealous because we would never be able to build a really rapid medical facility."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, thank you. That OK? Yes. That was exactly the logic I had at the time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, yeah. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you discuss this with anyone?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 8.955205282257175, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah. There was no way that it's not going to be a problem.\n\nYou know, like, you could hope that it was going to be like, SARS or MERS, but things just spread, there’s too much travel now. And once, once we started getting hints that China was building really rapid medical facilities, you knew that there was something there And I was jealous because we would never be able to build a really rapid medical facility."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, thank you. That OK? Yes. That was exactly the logic I had at the time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, yeah. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you discuss this with anyone?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My boss at the time is Dr. [name], who actually ended up dying of COVID, who did not believe in COVID here. He got it in the first wave. The whole time I said it was coming. He really didn't think it was going to be a big deal. It was just amazing. And then he caught it then then he knew.\n\nAnd then he actually didn't want me leaving the office to go to any of the facilities because he's like, you don't want this. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were those conversations like?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.616894758063529, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, yeah. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you discuss this with anyone?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My boss at the time is Dr. [name], who actually ended up dying of COVID, who did not believe in COVID here. He got it in the first wave. The whole time I said it was coming. He really didn't think it was going to be a big deal. It was just amazing. And then he caught it then then he knew.\n\nAnd then he actually didn't want me leaving the office to go to any of the facilities because he's like, you don't want this. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were those conversations like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hold on, let me just grab a power cord.\n\nI wanted more masks.\n\nAnd we were getting worried. [Assisted Living Facility] started preparing for COVID before the health department did And they wanted to lock everybody in their rooms. I'm actually in the health department originally. Wouldn't give them permission to do that. You actually have regulations that everybody had to come down for two meals a day, which makes sense, except if you suddenly don't want anyone interacting. So we were worried about that.\n\nWe also stopped going into [Assisted Living Facility] because he was being exposed. We figured at another facility and we didn't want to bring it in, because even before any cases were diagnosed in our circle, we were suspecting. and he had a patient who'd spent like a week in the hospital severely ill, and they didn't end up diagnosing him until right before he died.\n\nBut by then, everybody had already spent ten days interacting with the guy Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sorry. Go ahead."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.240994175626143, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My boss at the time is Dr. [name], who actually ended up dying of COVID, who did not believe in COVID here. He got it in the first wave. The whole time I said it was coming. He really didn't think it was going to be a big deal. It was just amazing. And then he caught it then then he knew.\n\nAnd then he actually didn't want me leaving the office to go to any of the facilities because he's like, you don't want this. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were those conversations like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hold on, let me just grab a power cord.\n\nI wanted more masks.\n\nAnd we were getting worried. [Assisted Living Facility] started preparing for COVID before the health department did And they wanted to lock everybody in their rooms. I'm actually in the health department originally. Wouldn't give them permission to do that. You actually have regulations that everybody had to come down for two meals a day, which makes sense, except if you suddenly don't want anyone interacting. So we were worried about that.\n\nWe also stopped going into [Assisted Living Facility] because he was being exposed. We figured at another facility and we didn't want to bring it in, because even before any cases were diagnosed in our circle, we were suspecting. and he had a patient who'd spent like a week in the hospital severely ill, and they didn't end up diagnosing him until right before he died.\n\nBut by then, everybody had already spent ten days interacting with the guy Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sorry. Go ahead."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, before it actually hit, though, we had managed to order a decent number of regular masks and gowns from the supplier The."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who's the we?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.934437972917936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hold on, let me just grab a power cord.\n\nI wanted more masks.\n\nAnd we were getting worried. [Assisted Living Facility] started preparing for COVID before the health department did And they wanted to lock everybody in their rooms. I'm actually in the health department originally. Wouldn't give them permission to do that. You actually have regulations that everybody had to come down for two meals a day, which makes sense, except if you suddenly don't want anyone interacting. So we were worried about that.\n\nWe also stopped going into [Assisted Living Facility] because he was being exposed. We figured at another facility and we didn't want to bring it in, because even before any cases were diagnosed in our circle, we were suspecting. and he had a patient who'd spent like a week in the hospital severely ill, and they didn't end up diagnosing him until right before he died.\n\nBut by then, everybody had already spent ten days interacting with the guy Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sorry. Go ahead."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, before it actually hit, though, we had managed to order a decent number of regular masks and gowns from the supplier The."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who's the we?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, uh Him and myself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So you convinced him."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.704931081019929, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, before it actually hit, though, we had managed to order a decent number of regular masks and gowns from the supplier The."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who's the we?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, uh Him and myself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So you convinced him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was reluctant, but he was probably shy and shut me up. Okay. He had two offices to run, and he didn't want them out of commission. I mean, just from a business point of view, if his office is closed in the middle of something happening, he was going to lose money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was his position that the masks were ineffective? or was that COVID was not a threat."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.561034534466588, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, uh Him and myself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So you convinced him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was reluctant, but he was probably shy and shut me up. Okay. He had two offices to run, and he didn't want them out of commission. I mean, just from a business point of view, if his office is closed in the middle of something happening, he was going to lose money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was his position that the masks were ineffective? or was that COVID was not a threat."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He believed we were all overreacting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did he say why?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.401149482740653, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was reluctant, but he was probably shy and shut me up. Okay. He had two offices to run, and he didn't want them out of commission. I mean, just from a business point of view, if his office is closed in the middle of something happening, he was going to lose money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was his position that the masks were ineffective? or was that COVID was not a threat."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He believed we were all overreacting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did he say why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was getting WhatsApp discussions. Like there were WhatsApp threads where everybody was insisting that they'd spoken to their colleague in China - this was all a physician thing. They spoke to their colleague in China. It's not a big deal. As soon as the weather gets warm, we'll be fine. I mean, it was amazing.\n\nAll of the main talking points were on his WhatsApp feed before they really became talking points.\n\nAnd nobody trusted China. But in a sense, why would somebody lie and say they had something worse? You know?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. OK. So they said on the WhatsApp threads that there would be that they had colleagues in China who said it wasn't that bad. While China was locking down."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.334610536378502, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He believed we were all overreacting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did he say why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was getting WhatsApp discussions. Like there were WhatsApp threads where everybody was insisting that they'd spoken to their colleague in China - this was all a physician thing. They spoke to their colleague in China. It's not a big deal. As soon as the weather gets warm, we'll be fine. I mean, it was amazing.\n\nAll of the main talking points were on his WhatsApp feed before they really became talking points.\n\nAnd nobody trusted China. But in a sense, why would somebody lie and say they had something worse? You know?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. OK. So they said on the WhatsApp threads that there would be that they had colleagues in China who said it wasn't that bad. While China was locking down."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes.\n\nHuh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's interesting. I haven't heard that one before."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.413099427627781, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes.\n\nHuh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's interesting. I haven't heard that one before."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And on those same WhatsApp things, when we had to reuse the masks, they were telling us, oh, just put them out in the sun for half an hour. So like that that whole feed was like, OK, well, just stick on your dashboard for half an hour. You'll be good to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The UV, right? Khkhkh. OK, so this is this is all happening in January and February, correct?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.570110475141979, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And on those same WhatsApp things, when we had to reuse the masks, they were telling us, oh, just put them out in the sun for half an hour. So like that that whole feed was like, OK, well, just stick on your dashboard for half an hour. You'll be good to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The UV, right? Khkhkh. OK, so this is this is all happening in January and February, correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I'm going to say February by that point. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said it seemed like it was going to be a problem and you've had this weird flu season with the liver enzymes and then… can you describe how you were feeling around this time?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.744567194602197, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And on those same WhatsApp things, when we had to reuse the masks, they were telling us, oh, just put them out in the sun for half an hour. So like that that whole feed was like, OK, well, just stick on your dashboard for half an hour. You'll be good to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The UV, right? Khkhkh. OK, so this is this is all happening in January and February, correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I'm going to say February by that point. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said it seemed like it was going to be a problem and you've had this weird flu season with the liver enzymes and then… can you describe how you were feeling around this time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn't that anxious about it. I didn't envision the mass death Like, New York really got hit harder. And I think it was just a series of unfortunate things that all came together at the same time. But I think it was just the volume of the patients. But in leading up to it, I didn't think that many people were going to die.\n\nSo I wasn't too concerned. And at that point, I wasn't concerned that I'd be really in any danger. You know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a eureka moment or an oh shit moment when you realized how bad it was going to be."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.938407994002441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I'm going to say February by that point. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said it seemed like it was going to be a problem and you've had this weird flu season with the liver enzymes and then… can you describe how you were feeling around this time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn't that anxious about it. I didn't envision the mass death Like, New York really got hit harder. And I think it was just a series of unfortunate things that all came together at the same time. But I think it was just the volume of the patients. But in leading up to it, I didn't think that many people were going to die.\n\nSo I wasn't too concerned. And at that point, I wasn't concerned that I'd be really in any danger. You know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a eureka moment or an oh shit moment when you realized how bad it was going to be."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they started to lockdown Italy. When they started the lockdown? Well, because suddenly it was another country. I mean, halfway around the world, they were locking down They were- we had much more media coverage from Italy than we did from China. And those providers really looked quite unhappy.\n\nAnd I want to say, by the time they locked down Italy, they had relaxed a lot of the copyright or whatever it is on medical journals. But you could see everything. Pre-print, by the time Italy was coming around So suddenly you could Google and find out an awful lot about a virus that no one knew anything about. And you still didn't get great information, but you got people's opinions Like, even at that time, Italy was saying that you wanted to treat it more like an altitude sickness.\n\nAnd that struck me because it seemed like then they were confused how to treat and they knew it was going to be a giant problem.\n\nI think that's when I got nervous OK. Thank you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is I mean, you've covered this already, but this could you summarize how your position changed on this before the first wave."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 13.264897771113823, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn't that anxious about it. I didn't envision the mass death Like, New York really got hit harder. And I think it was just a series of unfortunate things that all came together at the same time. But I think it was just the volume of the patients. But in leading up to it, I didn't think that many people were going to die.\n\nSo I wasn't too concerned. And at that point, I wasn't concerned that I'd be really in any danger. You know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a eureka moment or an oh shit moment when you realized how bad it was going to be."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they started to lockdown Italy. When they started the lockdown? Well, because suddenly it was another country. I mean, halfway around the world, they were locking down They were- we had much more media coverage from Italy than we did from China. And those providers really looked quite unhappy.\n\nAnd I want to say, by the time they locked down Italy, they had relaxed a lot of the copyright or whatever it is on medical journals. But you could see everything. Pre-print, by the time Italy was coming around So suddenly you could Google and find out an awful lot about a virus that no one knew anything about. And you still didn't get great information, but you got people's opinions Like, even at that time, Italy was saying that you wanted to treat it more like an altitude sickness.\n\nAnd that struck me because it seemed like then they were confused how to treat and they knew it was going to be a giant problem.\n\nI think that's when I got nervous OK. Thank you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is I mean, you've covered this already, but this could you summarize how your position changed on this before the first wave."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I actually became much more concerned about it. And bothered to stockpile stuff, which I never do Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said you stockpiled the masks and the gowns."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 13.62766419012647, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they started to lockdown Italy. When they started the lockdown? Well, because suddenly it was another country. I mean, halfway around the world, they were locking down They were- we had much more media coverage from Italy than we did from China. And those providers really looked quite unhappy.\n\nAnd I want to say, by the time they locked down Italy, they had relaxed a lot of the copyright or whatever it is on medical journals. But you could see everything. Pre-print, by the time Italy was coming around So suddenly you could Google and find out an awful lot about a virus that no one knew anything about. And you still didn't get great information, but you got people's opinions Like, even at that time, Italy was saying that you wanted to treat it more like an altitude sickness.\n\nAnd that struck me because it seemed like then they were confused how to treat and they knew it was going to be a giant problem.\n\nI think that's when I got nervous OK. Thank you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is I mean, you've covered this already, but this could you summarize how your position changed on this before the first wave."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I actually became much more concerned about it. And bothered to stockpile stuff, which I never do Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said you stockpiled the masks and the gowns."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mask the gowns. And I actually started preparing the house. I mean, I normally run the house like I run out of milk and I have to get the supermarket, paper towels... And I got things more ready in case we were going to be locked down. I didn't think it was going to be a disaster, but I thought we could potentially be locked in our houses for a few weeks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you got your bean stockpile?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 14.030737989029411, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I actually became much more concerned about it. And bothered to stockpile stuff, which I never do Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said you stockpiled the masks and the gowns."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mask the gowns. And I actually started preparing the house. I mean, I normally run the house like I run out of milk and I have to get the supermarket, paper towels... And I got things more ready in case we were going to be locked down. I didn't think it was going to be a disaster, but I thought we could potentially be locked in our houses for a few weeks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you got your bean stockpile?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. I did pasta, everything. But now, by the time I wanted to stockpile everybody and their mother had already bought out the Clorox wipes. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you change your behavior at all?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 13.367486654477123, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mask the gowns. And I actually started preparing the house. I mean, I normally run the house like I run out of milk and I have to get the supermarket, paper towels... And I got things more ready in case we were going to be locked down. I didn't think it was going to be a disaster, but I thought we could potentially be locked in our houses for a few weeks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you got your bean stockpile?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. I did pasta, everything. But now, by the time I wanted to stockpile everybody and their mother had already bought out the Clorox wipes. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you change your behavior at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not of that point, really. I mean, we were still seeing patients. I was wearing. I'm trying to think I think I moved to an N95 before the city got locked down.\n\nMaybe by about a week. I mean, it wasn't super early, but yeah, we'd actually gotten them from a paint store."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did your organization do or your employer do to prepare for this?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.630540727196802, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. I did pasta, everything. But now, by the time I wanted to stockpile everybody and their mother had already bought out the Clorox wipes. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you change your behavior at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not of that point, really. I mean, we were still seeing patients. I was wearing. I'm trying to think I think I moved to an N95 before the city got locked down.\n\nMaybe by about a week. I mean, it wasn't super early, but yeah, we'd actually gotten them from a paint store."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did your organization do or your employer do to prepare for this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He talked to the labs to get all the swabs so that we could get he wanted to swab for PCRs. He was still looking to make money. But yes, he was on top of that. By the time it really hit, we actually had lab contacts and hundreds upon hundreds of PCR swabs. There's a certain irony because the lab that had agreed to do it was not up and running with it by the time it hit.\n\nWhich is unfortunate. So then we sent everything to Quest, and at that point they had like an eight day turnaround time There's a lot of preparing for nothing, but there was preparing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was a little ironic too that he would have to wait a long time for the test."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.03393414132978, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not of that point, really. I mean, we were still seeing patients. I was wearing. I'm trying to think I think I moved to an N95 before the city got locked down.\n\nMaybe by about a week. I mean, it wasn't super early, but yeah, we'd actually gotten them from a paint store."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did your organization do or your employer do to prepare for this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He talked to the labs to get all the swabs so that we could get he wanted to swab for PCRs. He was still looking to make money. But yes, he was on top of that. By the time it really hit, we actually had lab contacts and hundreds upon hundreds of PCR swabs. There's a certain irony because the lab that had agreed to do it was not up and running with it by the time it hit.\n\nWhich is unfortunate. So then we sent everything to Quest, and at that point they had like an eight day turnaround time There's a lot of preparing for nothing, but there was preparing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was a little ironic too that he would have to wait a long time for the test."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So aside from the meetings with him that you've mentioned before, with any any other meetings or group discussions about this."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.59326015703309, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He talked to the labs to get all the swabs so that we could get he wanted to swab for PCRs. He was still looking to make money. But yes, he was on top of that. By the time it really hit, we actually had lab contacts and hundreds upon hundreds of PCR swabs. There's a certain irony because the lab that had agreed to do it was not up and running with it by the time it hit.\n\nWhich is unfortunate. So then we sent everything to Quest, and at that point they had like an eight day turnaround time There's a lot of preparing for nothing, but there was preparing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was a little ironic too that he would have to wait a long time for the test."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So aside from the meetings with him that you've mentioned before, with any any other meetings or group discussions about this."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The, uh, I'm trying to remember what her role was… Essentially, we had a consultant that would create policy. She had a more official title than that.\n\nBut we did meet with her. And by the time, obviously before the city was locked down, we had a written policy about what we were going to do about COVID. But look, OK, the volume was so severely misjudged. So inside the facility, we actually have one negative pressure room So, yes, in our minds, we were going to be able to run life based on this one negative pressure room.\n\nThey'd be triage. They'd go right in there Yeah.\n\nYeah. We were positive to be very end. But there was there was a rather elaborate policy that looking back on, it made no sense. But yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it to elaborate? Why didn't it make sense?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 16.214733507814543, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So aside from the meetings with him that you've mentioned before, with any any other meetings or group discussions about this."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The, uh, I'm trying to remember what her role was… Essentially, we had a consultant that would create policy. She had a more official title than that.\n\nBut we did meet with her. And by the time, obviously before the city was locked down, we had a written policy about what we were going to do about COVID. But look, OK, the volume was so severely misjudged. So inside the facility, we actually have one negative pressure room So, yes, in our minds, we were going to be able to run life based on this one negative pressure room.\n\nThey'd be triage. They'd go right in there Yeah.\n\nYeah. We were positive to be very end. But there was there was a rather elaborate policy that looking back on, it made no sense. But yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it to elaborate? Why didn't it make sense?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we couldn't run with one room. Okay. So the original policy is that you have this negative pressure room. You put your patient in there, and then you leave that room vacant for 4 hours for all the air to cycle through. I mean, it's fine. If you were going to get two patients a day. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why do you think you guys misjudged the volume?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 15.794148342016161, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The, uh, I'm trying to remember what her role was… Essentially, we had a consultant that would create policy. She had a more official title than that.\n\nBut we did meet with her. And by the time, obviously before the city was locked down, we had a written policy about what we were going to do about COVID. But look, OK, the volume was so severely misjudged. So inside the facility, we actually have one negative pressure room So, yes, in our minds, we were going to be able to run life based on this one negative pressure room.\n\nThey'd be triage. They'd go right in there Yeah.\n\nYeah. We were positive to be very end. But there was there was a rather elaborate policy that looking back on, it made no sense. But yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it to elaborate? Why didn't it make sense?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we couldn't run with one room. Okay. So the original policy is that you have this negative pressure room. You put your patient in there, and then you leave that room vacant for 4 hours for all the air to cycle through. I mean, it's fine. If you were going to get two patients a day. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why do you think you guys misjudged the volume?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was unthinkable that this would have happened and for years, everybody's been asking us to prepare for things like Ebola, which never materialized. And you sort of just let your guard down Now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So was H1N1 similar?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 15.326831491129067, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we couldn't run with one room. Okay. So the original policy is that you have this negative pressure room. You put your patient in there, and then you leave that room vacant for 4 hours for all the air to cycle through. I mean, it's fine. If you were going to get two patients a day. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why do you think you guys misjudged the volume?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was unthinkable that this would have happened and for years, everybody's been asking us to prepare for things like Ebola, which never materialized. And you sort of just let your guard down Now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So was H1N1 similar?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "H1N1 I remember… It wasn't such- the problem. OK, so there's a big psychological difference with the flu. One people are vaccinated, so the mortality is lesser. And two, we have antivirals. So we whenever we think we're having a bad flu season, we can prophylaxis entire facilities with antiviral meds OK, they take them at half the dose until seven days after the last case.\n\nSo you really can successfully tamp out an outbreak. And even for people in the community, if somebody comes in and they're vulnerable and they have the flu, their wife is often you're spouse is often treated prophylactically. So you can actually mitigate the risk with something like the flu. So we never had to really panic in the past.\n\nIt’d probably be more like working in the days before antibiotics you know, like where something comes in, there's literally nothing you could do for people other than say, all right, drink some fluids. I think hubris. We never imagined that we'd be in a position where we wouldn't be able to control everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was anyone sounding the alarm?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.799960006282845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of everything! I mean, not enough to cover the entire nation. I mean, the scope of this was just unreal. But I would have thought that they could have gotten like the major cities through a couple of weeks I mean, in the event that there's ever an attack, I don't think there's anything in that stockpile now. but I used to believe that there was a significant amount of stuff in the stockpile.\n\nBut no. we could produce stuff if we want it, but we don't want to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it would take a few weeks at minimum."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Or at minimum, we'd have to start now. I mean, if we want to avoid this again, we have to change our behavior now so that we can prepare because this is going to keep happening. There's no way with air travel. First, this is not going away. I mean, it's just not. And if it continues to mutate and becomes less significant, we're OK.\n\nBut if it mutates to something more deadly, where are we It's almost like we've learned nothing other than now we have vaccines, but on a behavioral level, I don't think we've changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, I mean, so looking back, I mean, is there anything you would have done differently as an individual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I probably would have forced myself into an N95 earlier but ended up being a moot point for me. But that is so OK. So we had two offices at the time that other office all got copied it ended up shut down for easily six weeks. We lost some of our employees quit out of anger at having gotten COVID because they were running around.\n\nThat office was still running around in the surgical masks at the time.\n\nYeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I've heard some places tried to ban their employees wearing N95 masks."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.55551111809205, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Or at minimum, we'd have to start now. I mean, if we want to avoid this again, we have to change our behavior now so that we can prepare because this is going to keep happening. There's no way with air travel. First, this is not going away. I mean, it's just not. And if it continues to mutate and becomes less significant, we're OK.\n\nBut if it mutates to something more deadly, where are we It's almost like we've learned nothing other than now we have vaccines, but on a behavioral level, I don't think we've changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, I mean, so looking back, I mean, is there anything you would have done differently as an individual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I probably would have forced myself into an N95 earlier but ended up being a moot point for me. But that is so OK. So we had two offices at the time that other office all got copied it ended up shut down for easily six weeks. We lost some of our employees quit out of anger at having gotten COVID because they were running around.\n\nThat office was still running around in the surgical masks at the time.\n\nYeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I've heard some places tried to ban their employees wearing N95 masks."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They weren't trying to ban them, but they didn't want to share them. They were really being cheap at that point. And at that point all of our N95s really did come from Sherwin-Williams, and we were getting them at like less than $2 apiece. So, I mean, you really didn't have to be cheap about it, but they had the supply of them, but they didn't want to open the supply at that point.\n\nI think they sort of thought that was going to come with a giant banner announcing its arrival, and it infected the entire office before the city even locked down. You know, And at that point, I was in another office dressed like a Martian. But yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that I mean, what do you wish that these offices had done differently?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 8.395012353435611, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I probably would have forced myself into an N95 earlier but ended up being a moot point for me. But that is so OK. So we had two offices at the time that other office all got copied it ended up shut down for easily six weeks. We lost some of our employees quit out of anger at having gotten COVID because they were running around.\n\nThat office was still running around in the surgical masks at the time.\n\nYeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I've heard some places tried to ban their employees wearing N95 masks."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They weren't trying to ban them, but they didn't want to share them. They were really being cheap at that point. And at that point all of our N95s really did come from Sherwin-Williams, and we were getting them at like less than $2 apiece. So, I mean, you really didn't have to be cheap about it, but they had the supply of them, but they didn't want to open the supply at that point.\n\nI think they sort of thought that was going to come with a giant banner announcing its arrival, and it infected the entire office before the city even locked down. You know, And at that point, I was in another office dressed like a Martian. But yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that I mean, what do you wish that these offices had done differently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wish that other offices have protected themselves, but the doctors were just so stubborn they weren't going to. I mean, so you had two different offices and you had two different offices. Dress differently. One office, all that infected the other office never got infected. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, one. One offices, right? One offices wrong. Right. I mean, even at the time, you can see that. So why do you think the doctors were so stubborn?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.883347059372901, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They weren't trying to ban them, but they didn't want to share them. They were really being cheap at that point. And at that point all of our N95s really did come from Sherwin-Williams, and we were getting them at like less than $2 apiece. So, I mean, you really didn't have to be cheap about it, but they had the supply of them, but they didn't want to open the supply at that point.\n\nI think they sort of thought that was going to come with a giant banner announcing its arrival, and it infected the entire office before the city even locked down. You know, And at that point, I was in another office dressed like a Martian. But yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that I mean, what do you wish that these offices had done differently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wish that other offices have protected themselves, but the doctors were just so stubborn they weren't going to. I mean, so you had two different offices and you had two different offices. Dress differently. One office, all that infected the other office never got infected. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, one. One offices, right? One offices wrong. Right. I mean, even at the time, you can see that. So why do you think the doctors were so stubborn?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a combination of things. One, seriously cheap. We're just cheap, cheap people. Two, he really was a Trump supporter had actually flown down to Mar a Lago. While the crisis was brewing. Before the crisis was present in the city.\n\nYeah, And just very dismissive of the whole thing. And it's going to be fine. China's lying, you know, didn't take it seriously at all.\n\nDidn't take it seriously until he got infected.\n\nAnd then suddenly. Yeah. But by the time that happened, I mean, it was all over the news that we were running out of hospital beds. They were bringing in the U.S.S Comfort like Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the Comfort ever really get used?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.425941177081001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wish that other offices have protected themselves, but the doctors were just so stubborn they weren't going to. I mean, so you had two different offices and you had two different offices. Dress differently. One office, all that infected the other office never got infected. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, one. One offices, right? One offices wrong. Right. I mean, even at the time, you can see that. So why do you think the doctors were so stubborn?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a combination of things. One, seriously cheap. We're just cheap, cheap people. Two, he really was a Trump supporter had actually flown down to Mar a Lago. While the crisis was brewing. Before the crisis was present in the city.\n\nYeah, And just very dismissive of the whole thing. And it's going to be fine. China's lying, you know, didn't take it seriously at all.\n\nDidn't take it seriously until he got infected.\n\nAnd then suddenly. Yeah. But by the time that happened, I mean, it was all over the news that we were running out of hospital beds. They were bringing in the U.S.S Comfort like Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the Comfort ever really get used?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, it is it is a sign, you know, it's like it's a sign that things are not exactly going well. So I imagine that people would see that and start taking it a little seriously."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.587581700100001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, it is it is a sign, you know, it's like it's a sign that things are not exactly going well. So I imagine that people would see that and start taking it a little seriously."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yes. So the Comfort didn't get used. You could almost envision why it didn't get used. They didn’t think they were ever going to be able to clean it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That that's."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was their logic, that they couldn't infect it because they were never going to be able to get a clean. So which is fascinating. But the bigger problem with all those things here was they never use any of the ancillary things they built. They had actually built a spill over at the U.S. Javits Center that was under utilized as well.\n\nThey let the 911 system continue to operate under its old rules, which accidentally or deliberately diverted all the patients away from everything that was recently built because these extra facilities were just simply not on the list of places people could bring the patients. So they kept bringing patients to these packed emergency rooms while ancillary facilities sat empty.\n\nYeah, if you really need the Times archives has all of it, because people eventually people eventually just left these ancillary facilities because medical providers had come to New York and then sat in a parking lot doing nothing during a crisis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That makes sense.\n\nOK, so so just a few wrap up questions. Um, so what would you like to tell me about the way you felt in early 2020."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.429113210000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was their logic, that they couldn't infect it because they were never going to be able to get a clean. So which is fascinating. But the bigger problem with all those things here was they never use any of the ancillary things they built. They had actually built a spill over at the U.S. Javits Center that was under utilized as well.\n\nThey let the 911 system continue to operate under its old rules, which accidentally or deliberately diverted all the patients away from everything that was recently built because these extra facilities were just simply not on the list of places people could bring the patients. So they kept bringing patients to these packed emergency rooms while ancillary facilities sat empty.\n\nYeah, if you really need the Times archives has all of it, because people eventually people eventually just left these ancillary facilities because medical providers had come to New York and then sat in a parking lot doing nothing during a crisis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That makes sense.\n\nOK, so so just a few wrap up questions. Um, so what would you like to tell me about the way you felt in early 2020."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I probably wasn't worried enough but I was, I certainly wasn't having anxiety about it.\n\nI thought it was going to be unpleasant, but I didn't anticipate what it was. Even at the lockdown to flatten the curve, I thought we could flatten the curve. I didn't think it was going to take us two weeks. I thought it would take us more like six, but I truly believed that we could flatten the curve Yeah, I was still optimistic. I really was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Me too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Is there any question that you think I should have asked that I didn't."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.468041, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Is there any question that you think I should have asked that I didn't."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Know the No. What is your Master’s in again?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Societal resilience."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay.\n\nI mean, OK, we are much more resilient than I thought we were going to be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We shrugged off a million deaths."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.9644900000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Know the No. What is your Master’s in again?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Societal resilience."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay.\n\nI mean, OK, we are much more resilient than I thought we were going to be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We shrugged off a million deaths."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We really did. Yes. I was very concerned. When we locked down. When we locked down. I really thought New York in particular, was going to have more problems than it did. Well, OK. So the rest of the world, I mean, they lock people in their house and say what you will about domineering governments. They deliver people food. I mean, if if we hadn't given people money, we'd have a problem.\n\nBut I mean, you can't just lock people in their houses with no backup plan. So we dump tons of cash on everybody. And then everybody was resilient. But if you looked at the rest of the world, like South America got hit because they couldn't afford to stay home. Yeah.\n\nBut we did better than I thought we would do.\n\nYeah.\n\nBut people don't care. That's the problem. Now you have a million deaths, and you'd be amazed how many people like. Well, nobody I know. All right, good for you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I mean, my first thought is nobody I know. And then I have to think a little bit, and it's like, oh, yeah. Wait."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.516100000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay.\n\nI mean, OK, we are much more resilient than I thought we were going to be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We shrugged off a million deaths."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We really did. Yes. I was very concerned. When we locked down. When we locked down. I really thought New York in particular, was going to have more problems than it did. Well, OK. So the rest of the world, I mean, they lock people in their house and say what you will about domineering governments. They deliver people food. I mean, if if we hadn't given people money, we'd have a problem.\n\nBut I mean, you can't just lock people in their houses with no backup plan. So we dump tons of cash on everybody. And then everybody was resilient. But if you looked at the rest of the world, like South America got hit because they couldn't afford to stay home. Yeah.\n\nBut we did better than I thought we would do.\n\nYeah.\n\nBut people don't care. That's the problem. Now you have a million deaths, and you'd be amazed how many people like. Well, nobody I know. All right, good for you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I mean, my first thought is nobody I know. And then I have to think a little bit, and it's like, oh, yeah. Wait."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But so it's funny that you bring this up because, you know, like, we have, you know, say we say we're resilient. I mean, we had a summer of riots and not to get too political but we had a summer of riots and a coup attempt. So it’s still better than we expected."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.1290000000000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We really did. Yes. I was very concerned. When we locked down. When we locked down. I really thought New York in particular, was going to have more problems than it did. Well, OK. So the rest of the world, I mean, they lock people in their house and say what you will about domineering governments. They deliver people food. I mean, if if we hadn't given people money, we'd have a problem.\n\nBut I mean, you can't just lock people in their houses with no backup plan. So we dump tons of cash on everybody. And then everybody was resilient. But if you looked at the rest of the world, like South America got hit because they couldn't afford to stay home. Yeah.\n\nBut we did better than I thought we would do.\n\nYeah.\n\nBut people don't care. That's the problem. Now you have a million deaths, and you'd be amazed how many people like. Well, nobody I know. All right, good for you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I mean, my first thought is nobody I know. And then I have to think a little bit, and it's like, oh, yeah. Wait."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But so it's funny that you bring this up because, you know, like, we have, you know, say we say we're resilient. I mean, we had a summer of riots and not to get too political but we had a summer of riots and a coup attempt. So it’s still better than we expected."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still better than we expected.\n\nI mean, I really thought we'd just break into all out violence in New York. I really did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, when when were you thinking that?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 6.8100000000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But so it's funny that you bring this up because, you know, like, we have, you know, say we say we're resilient. I mean, we had a summer of riots and not to get too political but we had a summer of riots and a coup attempt. So it’s still better than we expected."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still better than we expected.\n\nI mean, I really thought we'd just break into all out violence in New York. I really did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, when when were you thinking that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, no, at that point of initial lockdown."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so much Yeah."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never anticipated this large scale resistance to vaccination. Suddenly we became people who don't believe in science. We don't believe in math.\n\nWe just don't believe in anything anymore. Like, there's some sort of fundamental loss of trust. And I don't know that we're ever going to get that back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You think this happened because of COVID or was this before COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I had these feelings before COVID. But I think I think you didn't see it. I don't - because I don't think it was as obvious. Like, I'm not in the middle age crowd. There aren't too many vaccines that I'm trying to give people. I mean, there have always been those people that are not going to take the flu shot. I never really question that.\n\nI mean. All right. But this has become so polarizing and fascinating. I mean, on a worldwide level, the whole world's decided they're really going to make an issue of this. It's just I think it pre-dated COVID. I think there's been a whole alternative set of facts that everybody agreed to. But I think that I was blissfully unaware of this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the scale or - the scale of this problem was also unexpected, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I think it pushed people into their corners. And I don't know how we're going to get out of their corners."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s why it’s called a crisis."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I had these feelings before COVID. But I think I think you didn't see it. I don't - because I don't think it was as obvious. Like, I'm not in the middle age crowd. There aren't too many vaccines that I'm trying to give people. I mean, there have always been those people that are not going to take the flu shot. I never really question that.\n\nI mean. All right. But this has become so polarizing and fascinating. I mean, on a worldwide level, the whole world's decided they're really going to make an issue of this. It's just I think it pre-dated COVID. I think there's been a whole alternative set of facts that everybody agreed to. But I think that I was blissfully unaware of this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the scale or - the scale of this problem was also unexpected, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I think it pushed people into their corners. And I don't know how we're going to get out of their corners."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s why it’s called a crisis."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so yeah, we're getting up there in time. So anything else you'd like to tell me?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00003:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I think it pushed people into their corners. And I don't know how we're going to get out of their corners."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s why it’s called a crisis."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so yeah, we're getting up there in time. So anything else you'd like to tell me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, Good luck with your project."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thanks. I know you've been - this has been incredibly helpful the way you like. Describe the logic of like why people perceived the things the way they did was really incredibly useful for me. So thank you very much for that."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00004:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 11, "return_to_go": 25.839985088401264, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea. Absolutely. So I got a bachelor of Fine Arts in printmaking at Syracuse and I worked at a small.. tiny co-op at the tiny. Syracuse Real Food Co-op. It was like an old house. So at that time I was also becoming a vegetarian and also I remember I like applied to that position the first time and really did not have fully formed thoughts to answer the manager at the time who was interviewing me’s questions. Like what distinguishes work done there versus…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A grocery store or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A regular grocery store. So that really challenged me to go back and have, just more fully formulated thoughts. And so I worked there and, I worked there for two years and then graduated… did a couple artist residencies around the country, worked at a restaurant slash catering slash marketplace in North Carolina and learned fast paced food service. And then I moved here and started working at Each Peace, for about two and a half years, one and half of which I was the General Manager. And so there I got to really dive in to, being at the point between producer and consumer and you know even on a small scale um being that we are neighborhood serving focused, you know, how could my position there help people make better choices by offering a better selection and kind of just doing research for the customers. Because um you know, how can people make better choices if they don’t have access to that? Just making it easier for people to make better choices. So, you know, um I built several partnerships sourcing fair change bananas and avocados from Equa-Exchange and [pause for ambulance sirens]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Gotta love the city."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, so I did fair trade sourcing, and did research on what our organic grass-fed meat options would be because um up until that point we kind of had pretty um general or kind of murky understandings of our meat supplier and um I just wanted us to take a firmer grassroots stance on that because people can, we, here in Ward 1 people, we aren’t a food desert. Sorry this is a little more elaborate than maybe you’re looking for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No. No, it’s good background. I’m interested."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00004:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.35663249437759, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, you know we’re not a food desert so people can go to lots – there’s a Safeway, Giant, a Trader Jones, whatever – to get standard, conventional, you know products so I thought of us as being a way to offer a higher quality and a local, focusing locally. So um, in the end it wasn’t my business and so they were focused more on being a staple small business so uh that just really kind of came to me having, wanting to be in a more dynamic, progressive enivorment and um, also serve people that really need these resources. Um. Where, we we’re at a very affluent place in this area. Yea, and my old co-worker there Janet, Janet Hoffman, had worked at Arcadia and loved it. I read an article about Juju’s work there and just was like super inspired to hear about that work, and then I saw that they were hiring and went for it and um, yea, um Jeremy met with me. It was a great conversation. He hired me and last season it was like, this is the work I want to be doing. There were many vendors, like Tuscorara Organic Co-operative, I worked with them at Each Peach and I work with them at Arcadia. So, um, you know it’s outstanding to continue those partnerships and see them have so much more of an impact, have them reaching a new customer base, and allowing them to do that. Where they don’t have to take on that risk, we’re able to be the aggregator. And. So."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great. Super interesting as someone coming into this space. It’s interesting to hear people’s lived experience and how they kind of moved through um, yea through careers and through the food world."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I do want to focus on the incentive programs you work with now. I guess we can kind of start by talking about how it kind of looks at market distributing incentives. So, Arcadia does bonus bucks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And Produce Plus, right?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00004:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 22.61848054930843, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I do want to focus on the incentive programs you work with now. I guess we can kind of start by talking about how it kind of looks at market distributing incentives. So, Arcadia does bonus bucks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And Produce Plus, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And are there other incentives or it just those two?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00004:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 25.131645054787143, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And Produce Plus, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And are there other incentives or it just those two?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea just matching programs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how does the exchange, or is it less of an exchange and more of a conversation. Talking about relationships, how does the transactional piece look at market?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00004:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 6.6, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not, not, not for us. So we, you know buy product from producers and then the incentive programs are us paying us back basically. So that’s that relationships."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So there’s a non-existent relationship around..?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea its basically non-existence. So, you know, we work with – uh – one of the suppliers we work with is Chocolate and Tomatoes and so for that example I don’t know what their incentive program participation is at their own markets but for us at least that means that they don’t have to take the risk of coming to a new area, where they don’t know how stable their support would be, and we can manage that whole end which is a beast in itself. Of us and the incentive programs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay; and can you, likewise like you did with a customer, can you give me an example or story about a conversation with a partner or Katherine? So on the other end."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Around like…?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess so in this case… I am interested in around the incentives specifically but since that doesn’t exist in this case, I guess just any conversation you have had with producers around them. If you don’t have an example that’s okay."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00006:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 21.7065901391, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly, so you have for example, The Woodland Trust, they went in that direction for their recent five million pound head quarters, on a greenfield site in Grantham. They got an architect to design a wonderful building and built on a greenfield site. Around Grantham there are loads of Brownfield sites. But for the developers to restore that site costs a lot of money, so really, that's something that's a huge problem that needs to be addressed. That's where energies should be going before thinking about destroying biodiversity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So higher up mitigation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So choosing which bits of land very carefully."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The pre-planning application stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So at the moment, after speaking to a few of the offsetters, they were talking about scaling it up to an actual market, a kind of biodiversity offsetting market or habitat market. I was wondering to what extent do you think the benefits derived from ecosystems or forests can be actually valued economically?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.678209076925997, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I think my father told you what this was about. Would you like more of a preamble or should we get into it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, I just know that it’s about Covid and I guess how we reacted to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. It's about how we reacted and more so why we reacted in the way we did, why it caught us flat footed despite a pretty long waiting period before it actually hit our shores.\n\nSo I'm looking so specifically this interview - Oh, there you are."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There we are. Now, of course, I can. I can see you. There we go. It just the picture came up with a little unlock. I could see it finally. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK.\n\nObviously what happened after March has great relevance to to this interview, but this is going to focus on the around the December, January to March period and how we were considering the impending crisis."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.086898974362219, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, I just know that it’s about Covid and I guess how we reacted to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. It's about how we reacted and more so why we reacted in the way we did, why it caught us flat footed despite a pretty long waiting period before it actually hit our shores.\n\nSo I'm looking so specifically this interview - Oh, there you are."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There we are. Now, of course, I can. I can see you. There we go. It just the picture came up with a little unlock. I could see it finally. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK.\n\nObviously what happened after March has great relevance to to this interview, but this is going to focus on the around the December, January to March period and how we were considering the impending crisis."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All right. Whether I can remember Timeline one was December one was January and may be a problem for me, but. All right. OK, All right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how old are you?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.540998860402466, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There we are. Now, of course, I can. I can see you. There we go. It just the picture came up with a little unlock. I could see it finally. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK.\n\nObviously what happened after March has great relevance to to this interview, but this is going to focus on the around the December, January to March period and how we were considering the impending crisis."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All right. Whether I can remember Timeline one was December one was January and may be a problem for me, but. All right. OK, All right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "66."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where are you located?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8233320671138515, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All right. Whether I can remember Timeline one was December one was January and may be a problem for me, but. All right. OK, All right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "66."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where are you located?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "New York. New York. I live in the but I work in the Bronx, New York. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what's your position?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1370356301265017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "66."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where are you located?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "New York. New York. I live in the but I work in the Bronx, New York. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what's your position?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Physician assistant."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the clinic in an E.R…?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.872883493983335, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Physician assistant."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the clinic in an E.R…?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Clinic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[clinic]?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's correct. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And is that where you were working in January? 2020?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.3032038822037055, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Clinic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[clinic]?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's correct. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And is that where you were working in January? 2020?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any other jobs?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.7813376468930056, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's correct. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And is that where you were working in January? 2020?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any other jobs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "None."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me about when you first heard about COVID?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.201486274325562, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any other jobs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "None."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me about when you first heard about COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess you know that it was taking place in China the virus was in China. It was, I guess, spreading. That was my first information that I can remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me about what you thought at first?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5572069714728465, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "None."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me about when you first heard about COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess you know that it was taking place in China the virus was in China. It was, I guess, spreading. That was my first information that I can remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me about what you thought at first?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I probably thought I was hopeful it would never get here. Or be like some of the other viruses that would be limited and that spread to the United States.\n\nI was I'm sure I was cavalier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You weren't the only one.\n\nSo do you remember why you thought that."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.952452190525385, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess you know that it was taking place in China the virus was in China. It was, I guess, spreading. That was my first information that I can remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me about what you thought at first?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I probably thought I was hopeful it would never get here. Or be like some of the other viruses that would be limited and that spread to the United States.\n\nI was I'm sure I was cavalier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You weren't the only one.\n\nSo do you remember why you thought that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I think it maybe because some of the other virus like Zika, you know, hadn't really spread to the United States.\n\nAnd I think, you know, psychologically, I think there's also a component of not of of not really wanting to say something so negative. I mean, it's a combination, you know, to pick out the things and pass histories that didn't affect us. That was somewhat similar for us. You know, a general bias not to want to say something that's negative."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you seen that with other diseases?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.391613545028205, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I probably thought I was hopeful it would never get here. Or be like some of the other viruses that would be limited and that spread to the United States.\n\nI was I'm sure I was cavalier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You weren't the only one.\n\nSo do you remember why you thought that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I think it maybe because some of the other virus like Zika, you know, hadn't really spread to the United States.\n\nAnd I think, you know, psychologically, I think there's also a component of not of of not really wanting to say something so negative. I mean, it's a combination, you know, to pick out the things and pass histories that didn't affect us. That was somewhat similar for us. You know, a general bias not to want to say something that's negative."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you seen that with other diseases?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you seen that with other diseases?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.879570605586895, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I think it maybe because some of the other virus like Zika, you know, hadn't really spread to the United States.\n\nAnd I think, you know, psychologically, I think there's also a component of not of of not really wanting to say something so negative. I mean, it's a combination, you know, to pick out the things and pass histories that didn't affect us. That was somewhat similar for us. You know, a general bias not to want to say something that's negative."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you seen that with other diseases?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you seen that with other diseases?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think there's some truth to that. I mean, not all, but I think the ones especially things that are more unknown and that you haven't faced, I think probably, you know, I have a bias to be to be little, you know, not not reactive and not not sensitive to the real risks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is this something you saw before COVID?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.421745117318772, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you seen that with other diseases?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think there's some truth to that. I mean, not all, but I think the ones especially things that are more unknown and that you haven't faced, I think probably, you know, I have a bias to be to be little, you know, not not reactive and not not sensitive to the real risks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is this something you saw before COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is iy something that I saw… Yeah. I mean, there's probably other other things that like SARS virus, you know, that I just didn't think would get here or wouldn't be serious. I mean, there are other viruses that weren't so, you know, there's some basis in it, but there was no reason to believe some of the other viruses would have spread here either.\n\nProbably We just got lucky."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And with COVID, did you see this among your colleagues?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.024161241465302, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think there's some truth to that. I mean, not all, but I think the ones especially things that are more unknown and that you haven't faced, I think probably, you know, I have a bias to be to be little, you know, not not reactive and not not sensitive to the real risks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is this something you saw before COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is iy something that I saw… Yeah. I mean, there's probably other other things that like SARS virus, you know, that I just didn't think would get here or wouldn't be serious. I mean, there are other viruses that weren't so, you know, there's some basis in it, but there was no reason to believe some of the other viruses would have spread here either.\n\nProbably We just got lucky."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And with COVID, did you see this among your colleagues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, oh, I can't remember, to tell you the truth. You know, what was at what point? You know, people people began to take it more seriously.\n\nYou know, in the timeline."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, the timeline can be hazy."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.693512490517002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is iy something that I saw… Yeah. I mean, there's probably other other things that like SARS virus, you know, that I just didn't think would get here or wouldn't be serious. I mean, there are other viruses that weren't so, you know, there's some basis in it, but there was no reason to believe some of the other viruses would have spread here either.\n\nProbably We just got lucky."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And with COVID, did you see this among your colleagues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, oh, I can't remember, to tell you the truth. You know, what was at what point? You know, people people began to take it more seriously.\n\nYou know, in the timeline."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, the timeline can be hazy."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it's all hazy. I mean, for me, it's completely hazy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but people started to take it more seriously?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.437236100574447, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, oh, I can't remember, to tell you the truth. You know, what was at what point? You know, people people began to take it more seriously.\n\nYou know, in the timeline."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, the timeline can be hazy."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it's all hazy. I mean, for me, it's completely hazy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but people started to take it more seriously?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At some point. Yeah. It was like, though, you know, I took it seriously when everyone took it seriously and then took it very seriously, but probably later than I should have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why later than you should? Why do you say later than you should have?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.26359566730494, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it's all hazy. I mean, for me, it's completely hazy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but people started to take it more seriously?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At some point. Yeah. It was like, though, you know, I took it seriously when everyone took it seriously and then took it very seriously, but probably later than I should have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why later than you should? Why do you say later than you should have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because it was serious earlier and there was reasons You know, I mean, looking backwards, it's much easier to see like you should take it seriously at the very beginning, because things panned out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a eureka moment when you realized how bad it would be?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.181772963672156, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At some point. Yeah. It was like, though, you know, I took it seriously when everyone took it seriously and then took it very seriously, but probably later than I should have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why later than you should? Why do you say later than you should have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because it was serious earlier and there was reasons You know, I mean, looking backwards, it's much easier to see like you should take it seriously at the very beginning, because things panned out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a eureka moment when you realized how bad it would be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, you know, I guess it's you know, it's hazy. I mean, I know there was at some point I realized, you know, this is going to be a big problem. I had a child like you who is overseas. You know, I decided she had to come home. But that, you know, all that was later. You know, there was stuff that was done to the clinic, you know, a head of the institution, you know, which wasn't prepared to deal with, which we dealt with.\n\nI mean, we were sort of ahead of the institutional changes, but we were so late I can't remember. I can't help you with the timeline. I'm sorry. You know, when it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s OK, I don't I don't need so much of a timeline. I'm more interested in the psychological mechanisms."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.090858848524617, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because it was serious earlier and there was reasons You know, I mean, looking backwards, it's much easier to see like you should take it seriously at the very beginning, because things panned out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a eureka moment when you realized how bad it would be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, you know, I guess it's you know, it's hazy. I mean, I know there was at some point I realized, you know, this is going to be a big problem. I had a child like you who is overseas. You know, I decided she had to come home. But that, you know, all that was later. You know, there was stuff that was done to the clinic, you know, a head of the institution, you know, which wasn't prepared to deal with, which we dealt with.\n\nI mean, we were sort of ahead of the institutional changes, but we were so late I can't remember. I can't help you with the timeline. I'm sorry. You know, when it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s OK, I don't I don't need so much of a timeline. I'm more interested in the psychological mechanisms."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And I can't remember what it was that other than, you know, it was actually spreading, you know, but that that was probably, you know, you know, when people were starting to get sick and starting to die, you know, it was just… I mean, I flew. I remember I think, you know, in January or February, you know, when I probably should know, you know, when people knew already.\n\nI mean, like, the person next to me, you know, was wiping the seat down with alcohol, you know, had a mask on or whatever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where'd you go?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.989843165027352, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, you know, I guess it's you know, it's hazy. I mean, I know there was at some point I realized, you know, this is going to be a big problem. I had a child like you who is overseas. You know, I decided she had to come home. But that, you know, all that was later. You know, there was stuff that was done to the clinic, you know, a head of the institution, you know, which wasn't prepared to deal with, which we dealt with.\n\nI mean, we were sort of ahead of the institutional changes, but we were so late I can't remember. I can't help you with the timeline. I'm sorry. You know, when it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s OK, I don't I don't need so much of a timeline. I'm more interested in the psychological mechanisms."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And I can't remember what it was that other than, you know, it was actually spreading, you know, but that that was probably, you know, you know, when people were starting to get sick and starting to die, you know, it was just… I mean, I flew. I remember I think, you know, in January or February, you know, when I probably should know, you know, when people knew already.\n\nI mean, like, the person next to me, you know, was wiping the seat down with alcohol, you know, had a mask on or whatever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where'd you go?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Florida."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where was your kid?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.877603516697057, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And I can't remember what it was that other than, you know, it was actually spreading, you know, but that that was probably, you know, you know, when people were starting to get sick and starting to die, you know, it was just… I mean, I flew. I remember I think, you know, in January or February, you know, when I probably should know, you know, when people knew already.\n\nI mean, like, the person next to me, you know, was wiping the seat down with alcohol, you know, had a mask on or whatever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where'd you go?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Florida."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where was your kid?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "England."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, look, I flew in. I flew back here in back of the back to the U.S. in March. And I remember being on line in the airport in in Boston Customs. And, I mean, I had my mask and some people were wearing the the eye coverings from the plane over their nose and mouth."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.864003907441175, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Florida."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where was your kid?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "England."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, look, I flew in. I flew back here in back of the back to the U.S. in March. And I remember being on line in the airport in in Boston Customs. And, I mean, I had my mask and some people were wearing the the eye coverings from the plane over their nose and mouth."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the customs agent wasn't wearing anything."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 10.960004341601305, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "England."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, look, I flew in. I flew back here in back of the back to the U.S. in March. And I remember being on line in the airport in in Boston Customs. And, I mean, I had my mask and some people were wearing the the eye coverings from the plane over their nose and mouth."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the customs agent wasn't wearing anything."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And I'm sure that was probably, you know, it was right before they closed the borders, you know, in England, so I must've been March, you know, when my kid came back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think the clinic was ahead of the institution?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 6.622227046223671, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the customs agent wasn't wearing anything."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And I'm sure that was probably, you know, it was right before they closed the borders, you know, in England, so I must've been March, you know, when my kid came back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think the clinic was ahead of the institution?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was able to to move quicker. I mean, the institution we- like some of the things we did. It's like we got hold of N-95 masks and distributed them. I got hold of some and distributed to the nurses and the medical professionals before the institutions had them or was willing to. in fact, the institutions said the nurses couldn't use them because they were saving them essentially for for the docs, which was ridiculous because they were the ones who were seeing patients you know, they distributed the methadone to the patients, the nurses, not the docs or the VA's.\n\nSo and they wouldn't let them wear the N95 masks. And then we put up plexiglass in for the at the Medicaid windows, which we got a hold of it. When they drilled that in, they yelled at us for destroying the, the, you know, the counters or that where they went to get medicated because we drilled into the wood. you know, we put tape down on the ground to keep people six feet apart, you know, colored masking tape, things like that, you know, that the staff did themselves, where the institution hadn't reacted yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you do anything personally to react or change your behavior?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.91358560691519, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And I'm sure that was probably, you know, it was right before they closed the borders, you know, in England, so I must've been March, you know, when my kid came back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think the clinic was ahead of the institution?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was able to to move quicker. I mean, the institution we- like some of the things we did. It's like we got hold of N-95 masks and distributed them. I got hold of some and distributed to the nurses and the medical professionals before the institutions had them or was willing to. in fact, the institutions said the nurses couldn't use them because they were saving them essentially for for the docs, which was ridiculous because they were the ones who were seeing patients you know, they distributed the methadone to the patients, the nurses, not the docs or the VA's.\n\nSo and they wouldn't let them wear the N95 masks. And then we put up plexiglass in for the at the Medicaid windows, which we got a hold of it. When they drilled that in, they yelled at us for destroying the, the, you know, the counters or that where they went to get medicated because we drilled into the wood. you know, we put tape down on the ground to keep people six feet apart, you know, colored masking tape, things like that, you know, that the staff did themselves, where the institution hadn't reacted yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you do anything personally to react or change your behavior?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I started wearing the masks at one point. I also, since I really wasn't aware of how serious things were being and I we weren't 100% sure on transmission, I moved out of the house where I was living, because I didn't want to bring COVID home to my partner or my kid who had come home from England for a couple of weeks.\n\nAnd then I then I moved back. But for two weeks, I just moved out of the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you were afraid of bringing it back from the clinic?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.237317341016878, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was able to to move quicker. I mean, the institution we- like some of the things we did. It's like we got hold of N-95 masks and distributed them. I got hold of some and distributed to the nurses and the medical professionals before the institutions had them or was willing to. in fact, the institutions said the nurses couldn't use them because they were saving them essentially for for the docs, which was ridiculous because they were the ones who were seeing patients you know, they distributed the methadone to the patients, the nurses, not the docs or the VA's.\n\nSo and they wouldn't let them wear the N95 masks. And then we put up plexiglass in for the at the Medicaid windows, which we got a hold of it. When they drilled that in, they yelled at us for destroying the, the, you know, the counters or that where they went to get medicated because we drilled into the wood. you know, we put tape down on the ground to keep people six feet apart, you know, colored masking tape, things like that, you know, that the staff did themselves, where the institution hadn't reacted yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you do anything personally to react or change your behavior?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I started wearing the masks at one point. I also, since I really wasn't aware of how serious things were being and I we weren't 100% sure on transmission, I moved out of the house where I was living, because I didn't want to bring COVID home to my partner or my kid who had come home from England for a couple of weeks.\n\nAnd then I then I moved back. But for two weeks, I just moved out of the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you were afraid of bringing it back from the clinic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, because we weren't sure, you know, the mode of transmission, how, you know, how easily you know, I was being exposed at work, how well the masks were going to work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So at work, were there any meetings or group discussions."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.4859081566854195, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I started wearing the masks at one point. I also, since I really wasn't aware of how serious things were being and I we weren't 100% sure on transmission, I moved out of the house where I was living, because I didn't want to bring COVID home to my partner or my kid who had come home from England for a couple of weeks.\n\nAnd then I then I moved back. But for two weeks, I just moved out of the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you were afraid of bringing it back from the clinic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, because we weren't sure, you know, the mode of transmission, how, you know, how easily you know, I was being exposed at work, how well the masks were going to work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So at work, were there any meetings or group discussions."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I think mostly we you know, we got edicts, I think from the institution on occasion, but basically at the very beginning, um, you know, it was mostly following the CDC."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was anyone trying to push for early action? Or raising the alarm early?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6510090629837992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, because we weren't sure, you know, the mode of transmission, how, you know, how easily you know, I was being exposed at work, how well the masks were going to work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So at work, were there any meetings or group discussions."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I think mostly we you know, we got edicts, I think from the institution on occasion, but basically at the very beginning, um, you know, it was mostly following the CDC."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was anyone trying to push for early action? Or raising the alarm early?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "you know, I don't think we acted early. You know, we acted quickly quicker than the institution once the guidelines were laid down. Right. So that we could adhere to them but I don't know that we acted much quicker. We you know, the institution had shortage of supplies and was trying to make rules so that people who, who they felt were biggest risk would get the supplies, I think, was their reasoning.\n\nI mean, I don't know this for a fact for not letting you know, the nurses were in N95s and if they brought it themselves. So we district you know, it was the staff distributed it to them. I distributed to them because I had a bunch of them from construction."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there like a memo saying nurses know N95 like someone."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8344545144264435, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I think mostly we you know, we got edicts, I think from the institution on occasion, but basically at the very beginning, um, you know, it was mostly following the CDC."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was anyone trying to push for early action? Or raising the alarm early?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "you know, I don't think we acted early. You know, we acted quickly quicker than the institution once the guidelines were laid down. Right. So that we could adhere to them but I don't know that we acted much quicker. We you know, the institution had shortage of supplies and was trying to make rules so that people who, who they felt were biggest risk would get the supplies, I think, was their reasoning.\n\nI mean, I don't know this for a fact for not letting you know, the nurses were in N95s and if they brought it themselves. So we district you know, it was the staff distributed it to them. I distributed to them because I had a bunch of them from construction."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there like a memo saying nurses know N95 like someone."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Making so there was a memo on who could wear I mean because the nurses said they that the the head of nursing wouldn't let them wear ‘em after we distributed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what happened? They pulled them off their faces or they told."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.0382827938071593, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "you know, I don't think we acted early. You know, we acted quickly quicker than the institution once the guidelines were laid down. Right. So that we could adhere to them but I don't know that we acted much quicker. We you know, the institution had shortage of supplies and was trying to make rules so that people who, who they felt were biggest risk would get the supplies, I think, was their reasoning.\n\nI mean, I don't know this for a fact for not letting you know, the nurses were in N95s and if they brought it themselves. So we district you know, it was the staff distributed it to them. I distributed to them because I had a bunch of them from construction."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there like a memo saying nurses know N95 like someone."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Making so there was a memo on who could wear I mean because the nurses said they that the the head of nursing wouldn't let them wear ‘em after we distributed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what happened? They pulled them off their faces or they told."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me yeah most of them just regular masks, not N95 they didn't wear gloves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that something that you think the institution should have done differently?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1536475486746216, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Making so there was a memo on who could wear I mean because the nurses said they that the the head of nursing wouldn't let them wear ‘em after we distributed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what happened? They pulled them off their faces or they told."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me yeah most of them just regular masks, not N95 they didn't wear gloves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that something that you think the institution should have done differently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, in retrospect, if someone had access to an N95, you know, to, to make them withhold it, it wasn't the institution that was distributing it.\n\nAnd to what end? I'm not sure what they were trying to do except, you know, obviously conserve resources, you know, internally. I guess they wanted everybody to be treated the same some way. I mean, I'm not sure what their reasoning is 100%. I mean, I know they had a shortage, so they couldn't give it to all the nurses possibly.\n\nAnd they felt they were second in line to receive them.\n\nAt least at our clinic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So anything else like that where you're really unsure of what the logic was?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2818306096384684, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me yeah most of them just regular masks, not N95 they didn't wear gloves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that something that you think the institution should have done differently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, in retrospect, if someone had access to an N95, you know, to, to make them withhold it, it wasn't the institution that was distributing it.\n\nAnd to what end? I'm not sure what they were trying to do except, you know, obviously conserve resources, you know, internally. I guess they wanted everybody to be treated the same some way. I mean, I'm not sure what their reasoning is 100%. I mean, I know they had a shortage, so they couldn't give it to all the nurses possibly.\n\nAnd they felt they were second in line to receive them.\n\nAt least at our clinic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So anything else like that where you're really unsure of what the logic was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think, you know, other that was I think I'm guessing because there was a shortage and that's how they decided, you know, to control at least the men in the institution distributing things. You know, they set a hierarchy and kept at it. Why they they forbid I mean, it could have been just the a decision made by the head of nursing at that particular location and a poor one; I'm not sure, you know, if it was an institutional decision or or a local decision."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is there anything that you would have done differently as an individual?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4242562329316315, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, in retrospect, if someone had access to an N95, you know, to, to make them withhold it, it wasn't the institution that was distributing it.\n\nAnd to what end? I'm not sure what they were trying to do except, you know, obviously conserve resources, you know, internally. I guess they wanted everybody to be treated the same some way. I mean, I'm not sure what their reasoning is 100%. I mean, I know they had a shortage, so they couldn't give it to all the nurses possibly.\n\nAnd they felt they were second in line to receive them.\n\nAt least at our clinic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So anything else like that where you're really unsure of what the logic was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think, you know, other that was I think I'm guessing because there was a shortage and that's how they decided, you know, to control at least the men in the institution distributing things. You know, they set a hierarchy and kept at it. Why they they forbid I mean, it could have been just the a decision made by the head of nursing at that particular location and a poor one; I'm not sure, you know, if it was an institutional decision or or a local decision."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is there anything that you would have done differently as an individual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I mean, knowing what I know now or yeah, I guess try to do some of the things that we did earlier, maybe put up a bigger stink regarding people who are who are clearly at risk, probably the highest risk, you know, getting better protection I wouldn't waste little time like cleaning things when I came into the house, when food came into the house or something, you know, but washing it down. you know, I think at some point when you don't really know, you know, you are on the side of caution.\n\nWhen you realize there's a serious problem. first you have to realize it's a serious problem. And then when you don't have the full information, you know, it probably pays to are on the side of caution."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, yes. But…"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5825069254795905, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think, you know, other that was I think I'm guessing because there was a shortage and that's how they decided, you know, to control at least the men in the institution distributing things. You know, they set a hierarchy and kept at it. Why they they forbid I mean, it could have been just the a decision made by the head of nursing at that particular location and a poor one; I'm not sure, you know, if it was an institutional decision or or a local decision."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is there anything that you would have done differently as an individual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I mean, knowing what I know now or yeah, I guess try to do some of the things that we did earlier, maybe put up a bigger stink regarding people who are who are clearly at risk, probably the highest risk, you know, getting better protection I wouldn't waste little time like cleaning things when I came into the house, when food came into the house or something, you know, but washing it down. you know, I think at some point when you don't really know, you know, you are on the side of caution.\n\nWhen you realize there's a serious problem. first you have to realize it's a serious problem. And then when you don't have the full information, you know, it probably pays to are on the side of caution."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, yes. But…"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, the psychological kind of why you know, why you're less risk averse, more risk averse. I you know, what's that about? I guess it's partially your personal history of adverse events, right? It probably plays a huge role."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your fear of physical harm is fear."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.758341028310656, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I mean, knowing what I know now or yeah, I guess try to do some of the things that we did earlier, maybe put up a bigger stink regarding people who are who are clearly at risk, probably the highest risk, you know, getting better protection I wouldn't waste little time like cleaning things when I came into the house, when food came into the house or something, you know, but washing it down. you know, I think at some point when you don't really know, you know, you are on the side of caution.\n\nWhen you realize there's a serious problem. first you have to realize it's a serious problem. And then when you don't have the full information, you know, it probably pays to are on the side of caution."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, yes. But…"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, the psychological kind of why you know, why you're less risk averse, more risk averse. I you know, what's that about? I guess it's partially your personal history of adverse events, right? It probably plays a huge role."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your fear of physical harm is fear."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, like my family, I probably wouldn't walk wash down food that came in the house, but my family members would were, you know, risk averse. So they were washing everything down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I mean, you're in the medical field. You're used to operating under uncertainty, right?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9537122536785065, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, the psychological kind of why you know, why you're less risk averse, more risk averse. I you know, what's that about? I guess it's partially your personal history of adverse events, right? It probably plays a huge role."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your fear of physical harm is fear."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, like my family, I probably wouldn't walk wash down food that came in the house, but my family members would were, you know, risk averse. So they were washing everything down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I mean, you're in the medical field. You're used to operating under uncertainty, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess you don't have to be in the medical field to be used to operating under uncertainty. I mean, that's I think that's part of life right? I don't think that's something we're special about. You, do you think medical people are more risk averse or less risk averse?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, from what what my dad has said, probably less, actually. I mean, you've said I mean, you used the word cavalier so did he."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1707913929761182, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, like my family, I probably wouldn't walk wash down food that came in the house, but my family members would were, you know, risk averse. So they were washing everything down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I mean, you're in the medical field. You're used to operating under uncertainty, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess you don't have to be in the medical field to be used to operating under uncertainty. I mean, that's I think that's part of life right? I don't think that's something we're special about. You, do you think medical people are more risk averse or less risk averse?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, from what what my dad has said, probably less, actually. I mean, you've said I mean, you used the word cavalier so did he."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, I think to some extent, maybe. But, you know, I don’t think everybody was. Some of my colleagues… I don't think everyone is as cavalier. I think there's probably a cross section much I don't think as a profession, people are less risk averse because they're in medicine. But you're the one who's interviewing all these people's medicine.\n\nYou tell me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it seems like some people are risk averse. You know, I feel I think you're right. I think it depends on your personal characteristics."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4119904366401315, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess you don't have to be in the medical field to be used to operating under uncertainty. I mean, that's I think that's part of life right? I don't think that's something we're special about. You, do you think medical people are more risk averse or less risk averse?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, from what what my dad has said, probably less, actually. I mean, you've said I mean, you used the word cavalier so did he."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, I think to some extent, maybe. But, you know, I don’t think everybody was. Some of my colleagues… I don't think everyone is as cavalier. I think there's probably a cross section much I don't think as a profession, people are less risk averse because they're in medicine. But you're the one who's interviewing all these people's medicine.\n\nYou tell me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it seems like some people are risk averse. You know, I feel I think you're right. I think it depends on your personal characteristics."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I mean but you said, though, that, you know, when it's uncertain, you know, you want to err on the side of caution. Right? But also, you know, you also say that psychologically speaking, you don't want to face something so negative."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6799893740445904, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, I think to some extent, maybe. But, you know, I don’t think everybody was. Some of my colleagues… I don't think everyone is as cavalier. I think there's probably a cross section much I don't think as a profession, people are less risk averse because they're in medicine. But you're the one who's interviewing all these people's medicine.\n\nYou tell me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it seems like some people are risk averse. You know, I feel I think you're right. I think it depends on your personal characteristics."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I mean but you said, though, that, you know, when it's uncertain, you know, you want to err on the side of caution. Right? But also, you know, you also say that psychologically speaking, you don't want to face something so negative."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's true. So, you know, just like many humans, I guess I'm not consistent, you know, what you probably should want to do and what you do are probably always the same thing. But I think that and why you swing on one issue one way and another issue another way, I'm not so sure I know why."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, people are inconsistent, I suppose. Yeah."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.977765971160656, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I mean but you said, though, that, you know, when it's uncertain, you know, you want to err on the side of caution. Right? But also, you know, you also say that psychologically speaking, you don't want to face something so negative."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's true. So, you know, just like many humans, I guess I'm not consistent, you know, what you probably should want to do and what you do are probably always the same thing. But I think that and why you swing on one issue one way and another issue another way, I'm not so sure I know why."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, people are inconsistent, I suppose. Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah.\n\nI agree. I'm sure I'm inconsistent, too. But at some point, you know, I think obviously when you start to see people get sicker it's more palpable. Right. And you get more cautious. You know, it's hard to be cavalier when facts are thrown in front of you and you experience, your experiences dictate, You know, often I think, you know, your reactions, your personal experience is that the overall statistics disproportionately affect how you react."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As a society or on a larger level, yeah. I mean, we had plenty of unknowns in plenty of facts in early in 2020 before the wave hit us, with plenty of facts in January and February. And I mean, so what I, what I'm really trying to get at is why didn't we err on the side of caution?\n\nWhy were we taken by surprise?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3086288568451736, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's true. So, you know, just like many humans, I guess I'm not consistent, you know, what you probably should want to do and what you do are probably always the same thing. But I think that and why you swing on one issue one way and another issue another way, I'm not so sure I know why."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, people are inconsistent, I suppose. Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah.\n\nI agree. I'm sure I'm inconsistent, too. But at some point, you know, I think obviously when you start to see people get sicker it's more palpable. Right. And you get more cautious. You know, it's hard to be cavalier when facts are thrown in front of you and you experience, your experiences dictate, You know, often I think, you know, your reactions, your personal experience is that the overall statistics disproportionately affect how you react."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As a society or on a larger level, yeah. I mean, we had plenty of unknowns in plenty of facts in early in 2020 before the wave hit us, with plenty of facts in January and February. And I mean, so what I, what I'm really trying to get at is why didn't we err on the side of caution?\n\nWhy were we taken by surprise?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And not wanting to to face negative negative facts, you know, not giving them their full due because of the psychological, psychological tendency, I think not to wanna face negative facts and discounting them more. You know, I don't know when we all did this. I mean, you've interviewed other people's from my institution and they may be better on the timing.\n\nYou know, like I know you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, I think to be honest, the time the timelines are fairly consistent."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6762542853835263, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah.\n\nI agree. I'm sure I'm inconsistent, too. But at some point, you know, I think obviously when you start to see people get sicker it's more palpable. Right. And you get more cautious. You know, it's hard to be cavalier when facts are thrown in front of you and you experience, your experiences dictate, You know, often I think, you know, your reactions, your personal experience is that the overall statistics disproportionately affect how you react."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As a society or on a larger level, yeah. I mean, we had plenty of unknowns in plenty of facts in early in 2020 before the wave hit us, with plenty of facts in January and February. And I mean, so what I, what I'm really trying to get at is why didn't we err on the side of caution?\n\nWhy were we taken by surprise?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And not wanting to to face negative negative facts, you know, not giving them their full due because of the psychological, psychological tendency, I think not to wanna face negative facts and discounting them more. You know, I don't know when we all did this. I mean, you've interviewed other people's from my institution and they may be better on the timing.\n\nYou know, like I know you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, I think to be honest, the time the timelines are fairly consistent."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They see the news out of China. They're a little worried. They put it in the back of their minds. They see the news out of Italy. They freak out."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.084726983759474, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And not wanting to to face negative negative facts, you know, not giving them their full due because of the psychological, psychological tendency, I think not to wanna face negative facts and discounting them more. You know, I don't know when we all did this. I mean, you've interviewed other people's from my institution and they may be better on the timing.\n\nYou know, like I know you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, I think to be honest, the time the timelines are fairly consistent."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They see the news out of China. They're a little worried. They put it in the back of their minds. They see the news out of Italy. They freak out."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don't freak out. But they're like, uh oh."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.538585537510526, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They see the news out of China. They're a little worried. They put it in the back of their minds. They see the news out of Italy. They freak out."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don't freak out. But they're like, uh oh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They then they see the visible disruption coming to New York and then they freak out."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.04287281945614, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don't freak out. But they're like, uh oh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They then they see the visible disruption coming to New York and then they freak out."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But none of those points is that does it seem like there's and maybe I'm interviewing the wrong people, but it none of those points does seem like there's any concern. It doesn't translate into planning. It doesn't translate into behavioral change or pushing for organizational action."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.603192021617933, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They then they see the visible disruption coming to New York and then they freak out."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But none of those points is that does it seem like there's and maybe I'm interviewing the wrong people, but it none of those points does seem like there's any concern. It doesn't translate into planning. It doesn't translate into behavioral change or pushing for organizational action."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think that's true. I mean, I think only when it was thrown in your face, you know, that that we and then I think we leapt into action quickly, you know, when it became apparent. But of course, you know, in some some sense, the the cow had gotten out of the barn before we we reacted. But once we saw the cow out of the barn, we you know, that's when we jumped into action, so to speak.\n\nYeah. I don't know. And to tell you is really the doc one of the docs in our office, you know, who is the prime mover of a lot of these things, you know, putting up the plexiglass, you know, and all this stuff. I mean, he was the one you know, who sort of took things in under, you know, made the decisions to do things. I mean, that wasn't my decision.\n\nThat was his- other than bringing in masks as the only thing to distribute to the nurses because I've seen, you know, I had access to, you know, early. I mean, I really personally did, you know, made no decisions. I mean, I supported, helped did things that other people said we should do, which made a lot of sense.\n\nBut I wasn't the the force, you know what I'm saying? To do it and take take control. It was really the doc I worked with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you make those decisions? How did he make those happen?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.0921701256761756, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, he bought Plexiglas. We screwed it in you know, we all he called this. You have tape. We all had tape. We put tape on the floor and outside front of a clinic where people used to line up to get in, you know, and the masks I had, you know, that I did sort of on my own because I worked at a nonprofit that did construction.\n\nI knew we had the basement. You know, it was a bunch of N-95 masks. So I brought in a couple of boxes, you know, to distribute. That was you know, the only things I did at work, really, and try to keep people, you know, like I would walk into the clinic early before it opened. I'd see people very close to each other.\n\nI’d try to get them to separate, you know, for the first several weeks but that's probably, you know, all I did. I did nothing else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you get sick?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I never got sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So something worked."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. Or mask, did I never? You know, it's funny. There there when it was very early, I was in the laundry room with someone in the building, you know, and this is before people were being careful, those wearing masks. And he was one of the early people. I mean, there was he was written up the times he was on a respirator for 56 days, you know, and survived.\n\nI mean, they were going to pull the plug on him, you know, and I was in the laundry room the day before he went to the hospital or two, you know, so, you know, why things happen. You know, you get lucky, though, in those either so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, just a few rapid questions because you're getting up there on time."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.546855695195751, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I never got sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So something worked."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. Or mask, did I never? You know, it's funny. There there when it was very early, I was in the laundry room with someone in the building, you know, and this is before people were being careful, those wearing masks. And he was one of the early people. I mean, there was he was written up the times he was on a respirator for 56 days, you know, and survived.\n\nI mean, they were going to pull the plug on him, you know, and I was in the laundry room the day before he went to the hospital or two, you know, so, you know, why things happen. You know, you get lucky, though, in those either so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, just a few rapid questions because you're getting up there on time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK? Do you have a theory in your study?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I do get this. I guess that after these questions."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.0520618835508335, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. Or mask, did I never? You know, it's funny. There there when it was very early, I was in the laundry room with someone in the building, you know, and this is before people were being careful, those wearing masks. And he was one of the early people. I mean, there was he was written up the times he was on a respirator for 56 days, you know, and survived.\n\nI mean, they were going to pull the plug on him, you know, and I was in the laundry room the day before he went to the hospital or two, you know, so, you know, why things happen. You know, you get lucky, though, in those either so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, just a few rapid questions because you're getting up there on time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK? Do you have a theory in your study?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I do get this. I guess that after these questions."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. Citizen, finish what you have to do first."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Though, what would you like to tell me about the way you felt? In early 2020?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.2371134364825105, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. Citizen, finish what you have to do first."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Though, what would you like to tell me about the way you felt? In early 2020?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I like to tell you I mean, I've told you sort of what I mean in retrospect, you know, I guess you know, I would have been more forceful, particularly for the nurses, you know, and should have should have done something about that.\n\nI mean, that probably is the thing I regret the most."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But emotionally?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Emotionally, I probably should have made my kid come home earlier from England but that's not emotionally. That's just you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's I mean, like, were you curious? You scared? Were you excited? Oh."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.4580299291, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sorry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Normalcy bias."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I mean, it's the idea that things are going to stay relatively the same. And with medical workers, this has been, you know, this is kind of influenced by the experience of SARS and which never really came to America. All right. H1N1, Ebola you know, all H1N1 Ebola and swine flu all caused fear. Well, they never really disrupted, they didn’t have that level of disruption that Covid did.\n\nAnd then once people see this visible disruption, you know, they see the morgue trucks, they see the tents, they realize that this is real. This is a thing happening in America.\n\nBut I still feel like I'm missing something."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sensitivity when I had a spy phone going off. Go ahead. I I."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Go, that's my work. That's my theory. It's these you know, they see the they have this informational input coming from overseas and they use- And the power of these heuristics, this distrust in the hierarchy organizations and the global see that those somehow outweigh the, you know, the risk, the desire to do the numbers, the impetus to assess risk rationally working here."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 6.064477699, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I mean, it's the idea that things are going to stay relatively the same. And with medical workers, this has been, you know, this is kind of influenced by the experience of SARS and which never really came to America. All right. H1N1, Ebola you know, all H1N1 Ebola and swine flu all caused fear. Well, they never really disrupted, they didn’t have that level of disruption that Covid did.\n\nAnd then once people see this visible disruption, you know, they see the morgue trucks, they see the tents, they realize that this is real. This is a thing happening in America.\n\nBut I still feel like I'm missing something."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sensitivity when I had a spy phone going off. Go ahead. I I."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Go, that's my work. That's my theory. It's these you know, they see the they have this informational input coming from overseas and they use- And the power of these heuristics, this distrust in the hierarchy organizations and the global see that those somehow outweigh the, you know, the risk, the desire to do the numbers, the impetus to assess risk rationally working here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that's true. Yeah.\n\nI think, you know, and only when it's thrown in your face, you know, do you really look, you know, even at the end, our own government, if you listen to Trump right? based on this, is all going to be over.\n\nWell."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's another thing."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5487379000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that's true. Yeah.\n\nI think, you know, and only when it's thrown in your face, you know, do you really look, you know, even at the end, our own government, if you listen to Trump right? based on this, is all going to be over.\n\nWell."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's another thing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You listen to that. It's just it does go to the same feelings, you know, that the you know, we can take care of our stuff and, you know, we'll take care of it.\n\nYou know, we didn't do so well in 1917 or 1914, whatever it was. Uh, yeah, let's look at that. 1918 right I mean obviously you know, we have more armaments than, than they did at that time, but you know, it's sort of playing out, I suspect in some ways the same way as the flu epidemic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well I read this fascinating book called Journal of the Plague Year about the plague in London in 1666. And the parallels are incredible. I mean you have these people saying, oh well it's in, it's over there, but it's not over here. And then you have people saying, oh, when it comes to wonder, they say, Oh, it’s in that neighborhood?\n\nIn this neighborhood like that matters. At that point and then, you know, you have people trying to sanitize their house by fumigating it. And then they blow up the house. They put in, they only have coins, so they put the coins in vinegar to sanitize them. So a lot of parallels. So maybe part of this is just human nature."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Excuse me?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Maybe it's just human nature. You know, maybe it's some kind of hard coded pandemic response."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8319310000000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You listen to that. It's just it does go to the same feelings, you know, that the you know, we can take care of our stuff and, you know, we'll take care of it.\n\nYou know, we didn't do so well in 1917 or 1914, whatever it was. Uh, yeah, let's look at that. 1918 right I mean obviously you know, we have more armaments than, than they did at that time, but you know, it's sort of playing out, I suspect in some ways the same way as the flu epidemic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well I read this fascinating book called Journal of the Plague Year about the plague in London in 1666. And the parallels are incredible. I mean you have these people saying, oh well it's in, it's over there, but it's not over here. And then you have people saying, oh, when it comes to wonder, they say, Oh, it’s in that neighborhood?\n\nIn this neighborhood like that matters. At that point and then, you know, you have people trying to sanitize their house by fumigating it. And then they blow up the house. They put in, they only have coins, so they put the coins in vinegar to sanitize them. So a lot of parallels. So maybe part of this is just human nature."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Excuse me?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Maybe it's just human nature. You know, maybe it's some kind of hard coded pandemic response."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think, you know, I don't know. It's not everyone, but I think certainly there's a large group, right? It's like anything. There's probably some bell curve where most people fall in the middle. And that's the common reaction. And then there's outliers on both sides. I mean, right. You still have people who will wear masks, you know, even late into the epidemic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So is there any question that you think I should ask that I didn't."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.14659, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Excuse me?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Maybe it's just human nature. You know, maybe it's some kind of hard coded pandemic response."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think, you know, I don't know. It's not everyone, but I think certainly there's a large group, right? It's like anything. There's probably some bell curve where most people fall in the middle. And that's the common reaction. And then there's outliers on both sides. I mean, right. You still have people who will wear masks, you know, even late into the epidemic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So is there any question that you think I should ask that I didn't."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I don't you know, if you're trying to I guess you just try to figure out what are thinking, why react, why we reacted the way we did. And when we reacted, I mean, that's the goal, right? I mean, I'm trying to figure out what your goal is. Then I can maybe come up with a question that you left out I'm not.\n\nSo I'm still not clear on what what you're what you're trying to find out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I'm trying to find out why we were so surprised why we had this information in really in January. The logic existed, and yet we did not act on it until it was in our faces in March."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.3851, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think, you know, I don't know. It's not everyone, but I think certainly there's a large group, right? It's like anything. There's probably some bell curve where most people fall in the middle. And that's the common reaction. And then there's outliers on both sides. I mean, right. You still have people who will wear masks, you know, even late into the epidemic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So is there any question that you think I should ask that I didn't."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I don't you know, if you're trying to I guess you just try to figure out what are thinking, why react, why we reacted the way we did. And when we reacted, I mean, that's the goal, right? I mean, I'm trying to figure out what your goal is. Then I can maybe come up with a question that you left out I'm not.\n\nSo I'm still not clear on what what you're what you're trying to find out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I'm trying to find out why we were so surprised why we had this information in really in January. The logic existed, and yet we did not act on it until it was in our faces in March."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, I think we may have it was before March that we acted. I don't think it was that late because I remember it was pretty damn cold outside when people were lining up, you know, and we were doing stuff. So I think we reacted before March, but it was still late, you know, it feels like even though we reacted, it was late. I don't know if it was quite March, but it was late.\n\nAnd you spoke to other people, institutions. They may be better on the timeline, but in thinking about it only based on the weather, I think it was earlier than March, but but I could be wrong. It was late in any event."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like I was in Bangkok through this whole chunk of time. So I can't speak as to weather."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.539, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I don't you know, if you're trying to I guess you just try to figure out what are thinking, why react, why we reacted the way we did. And when we reacted, I mean, that's the goal, right? I mean, I'm trying to figure out what your goal is. Then I can maybe come up with a question that you left out I'm not.\n\nSo I'm still not clear on what what you're what you're trying to find out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I'm trying to find out why we were so surprised why we had this information in really in January. The logic existed, and yet we did not act on it until it was in our faces in March."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, I think we may have it was before March that we acted. I don't think it was that late because I remember it was pretty damn cold outside when people were lining up, you know, and we were doing stuff. So I think we reacted before March, but it was still late, you know, it feels like even though we reacted, it was late. I don't know if it was quite March, but it was late.\n\nAnd you spoke to other people, institutions. They may be better on the timeline, but in thinking about it only based on the weather, I think it was earlier than March, but but I could be wrong. It was late in any event."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like I was in Bangkok through this whole chunk of time. So I can't speak as to weather."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I mean, Bangkok, I mean, people in Asia, I mean, they were taking temperatures of people before they walked into, you know, buildings. Right. And they were way ahead of us. I mean, they may not have been right, but they were more cautious than us in a lot of ways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, we were all wearing masks on the subway in Bangkok."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.71, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, I think we may have it was before March that we acted. I don't think it was that late because I remember it was pretty damn cold outside when people were lining up, you know, and we were doing stuff. So I think we reacted before March, but it was still late, you know, it feels like even though we reacted, it was late. I don't know if it was quite March, but it was late.\n\nAnd you spoke to other people, institutions. They may be better on the timeline, but in thinking about it only based on the weather, I think it was earlier than March, but but I could be wrong. It was late in any event."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like I was in Bangkok through this whole chunk of time. So I can't speak as to weather."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I mean, Bangkok, I mean, people in Asia, I mean, they were taking temperatures of people before they walked into, you know, buildings. Right. And they were way ahead of us. I mean, they may not have been right, but they were more cautious than us in a lot of ways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, we were all wearing masks on the subway in Bangkok."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right? Yeah. Well, people in Asia were wearing masks before there was government. I mean, you'd see them at least in New York, right? I mean, it's part of the culture because of the other viruses probably that have gone through there. So they're more sensitive to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, I think that's when it was really thrown in my face, you know, I mean, the fear was palpable."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I mean, Bangkok, I mean, people in Asia, I mean, they were taking temperatures of people before they walked into, you know, buildings. Right. And they were way ahead of us. I mean, they may not have been right, but they were more cautious than us in a lot of ways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, we were all wearing masks on the subway in Bangkok."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right? Yeah. Well, people in Asia were wearing masks before there was government. I mean, you'd see them at least in New York, right? I mean, it's part of the culture because of the other viruses probably that have gone through there. So they're more sensitive to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, I think that's when it was really thrown in my face, you know, I mean, the fear was palpable."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right. So anything else you'd like to tell me?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right? Yeah. Well, people in Asia were wearing masks before there was government. I mean, you'd see them at least in New York, right? I mean, it's part of the culture because of the other viruses probably that have gone through there. So they're more sensitive to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, I think that's when it was really thrown in my face, you know, I mean, the fear was palpable."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right. So anything else you'd like to tell me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that's it. I got I got no more help for you. I'm sorry. Khkhkh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, no. You were really very helpful. And you really like your explicit mentions of the, you know, like people not wanting to face these negative things. That that's very helpful. Yeah. So thank you for that. And also the Central Park Field Hospital, the field. I forgot about that. But."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right. So anything else you'd like to tell me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that's it. I got I got no more help for you. I'm sorry. Khkhkh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, no. You were really very helpful. And you really like your explicit mentions of the, you know, like people not wanting to face these negative things. That that's very helpful. Yeah. So thank you for that. And also the Central Park Field Hospital, the field. I forgot about that. But."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I mean, that to me was probably you know, of all the things, you know, I mean, I that was, that was that was scary.\n\nAnd that was really just, you know, literally, I had to walk by it every day because my partner and I, we'd meet in the park like an Orthodox couple walk around and hold hands and then separate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The old times then, huh?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that's it. I got I got no more help for you. I'm sorry. Khkhkh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, no. You were really very helpful. And you really like your explicit mentions of the, you know, like people not wanting to face these negative things. That that's very helpful. Yeah. So thank you for that. And also the Central Park Field Hospital, the field. I forgot about that. But."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I mean, that to me was probably you know, of all the things, you know, I mean, I that was, that was that was scary.\n\nAnd that was really just, you know, literally, I had to walk by it every day because my partner and I, we'd meet in the park like an Orthodox couple walk around and hold hands and then separate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The old times then, huh?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so thank you very much for this. Know, this was really very helpful. Seriously."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I mean, that to me was probably you know, of all the things, you know, I mean, I that was, that was that was scary.\n\nAnd that was really just, you know, literally, I had to walk by it every day because my partner and I, we'd meet in the park like an Orthodox couple walk around and hold hands and then separate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The old times then, huh?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so thank you very much for this. Know, this was really very helpful. Seriously."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, that's good. And how many people are you interviewing?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You’re number 11."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so thank you very much for this. Know, this was really very helpful. Seriously."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, that's good. And how many people are you interviewing?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You’re number 11."}, {"role": "user", "content": "How many do you plan to interview?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I just told my advisor 20."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, that's good. And how many people are you interviewing?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You’re number 11."}, {"role": "user", "content": "How many do you plan to interview?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I just told my advisor 20."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You're halfway there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll see what actually happens.\n\nI have one that I'm really looking forward to on Thursday. And hopefully get her and her husband, because I think they're going to have a pretty different perspective on things."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "How many do you plan to interview?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I just told my advisor 20."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You're halfway there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll see what actually happens.\n\nI have one that I'm really looking forward to on Thursday. And hopefully get her and her husband, because I think they're going to have a pretty different perspective on things."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, if you get an E.R. doc or you know someone, right. You're going to get different perspectives, I'm sure, as well. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I have had an ER doc, and he was very, we had his own perspective. He was a I mean, his own perspective, but also not really, you know, he had the same timeline as everyone. And, you know, he talked about his e.R. Response. He's very proud of his organizational response."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You're halfway there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll see what actually happens.\n\nI have one that I'm really looking forward to on Thursday. And hopefully get her and her husband, because I think they're going to have a pretty different perspective on things."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, if you get an E.R. doc or you know someone, right. You're going to get different perspectives, I'm sure, as well. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I have had an ER doc, and he was very, we had his own perspective. He was a I mean, his own perspective, but also not really, you know, he had the same timeline as everyone. And, you know, he talked about his e.R. Response. He's very proud of his organizational response."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. That's, you know, you have the same intonations as your father when you speak."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know I also have a really nasty tendency to start sentences four or five times."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00010:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, if you get an E.R. doc or you know someone, right. You're going to get different perspectives, I'm sure, as well. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I have had an ER doc, and he was very, we had his own perspective. He was a I mean, his own perspective, but also not really, you know, he had the same timeline as everyone. And, you know, he talked about his e.R. Response. He's very proud of his organizational response."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. That's, you know, you have the same intonations as your father when you speak."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know I also have a really nasty tendency to start sentences four or five times."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That I didn't notice. But it just, you know, the way you're phrasing your intonation, your pace is just it's like listening to your dad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you. I guess I'm also trying to make a deliberate effort to get my sentences out on the first try too. I really don't like how I look on the transcripts."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.76880675830407, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am 38 years old"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what are your qualification?’"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am a nursing officer"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, where did you complete from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From lira school of comprehensive nursing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long ago where you, when did you qualify?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.444179366672249, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "2009"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "2009?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Diploma, I qualified in 2013 December, Certificate I qualified in 2009, may"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which health center are you working in?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.937977074080276, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Diploma, I qualified in 2013 December, Certificate I qualified in 2009, may"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which health center are you working in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am working in Alik health center II"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and how long have you been working there?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.861700091457132, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am working in Alik health center II"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and how long have you been working there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since 2015"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "2015?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you look at the demographics of your patients in your centre, which are the..., if you look at the ages that you see, which department are you working in now?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.2907778793968125, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since 2015"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "2015?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you look at the demographics of your patients in your centre, which are the..., if you look at the ages that you see, which department are you working in now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First of all, am the in charge of that unit, so you know I come to almost across to all department"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You cut across?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.767530977107569, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you look at the demographics of your patients in your centre, which are the..., if you look at the ages that you see, which department are you working in now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First of all, am the in charge of that unit, so you know I come to almost across to all department"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You cut across?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you look at the demographics of your patients, which age groups do you see mainly?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.1861455301195205, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First of all, am the in charge of that unit, so you know I come to almost across to all department"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You cut across?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you look at the demographics of your patients, which age groups do you see mainly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Between 4 years to 30 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To 30 years?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.651272811243912, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you look at the demographics of your patients, which age groups do you see mainly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Between 4 years to 30 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To 30 years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you mainly see adults or children?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.168080901382124, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Between 4 years to 30 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To 30 years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you mainly see adults or children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then are they women or men"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.145778890595214, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then are they women or men"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women are the majority group but with children below 4 years, male children again are the majority"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Male children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! What do you think explains that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.717532100661349, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women are the majority group but with children below 4 years, male children again are the majority"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Male children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! What do you think explains that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "With children, I can’t explain well but when you look at the number of male children that come to seek the health center, they are quite more than the female children, I always try to think that maybe males are weak some how"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then when it comes to adults, you said it’s mainly women, why?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.6142371613103066, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "With children, I can’t explain well but when you look at the number of male children that come to seek the health center, they are quite more than the female children, I always try to think that maybe males are weak some how"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then when it comes to adults, you said it’s mainly women, why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s the contrary laughs..., females are three times more than the males that come to the hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So to me I think males have a poor health seeking behavior because even in the village, people who die most are the males, secondly, they always come to the hospital when the condition has worsened, when the man is not feeling really bad, this man does not really come but women, they have really good health seeking behavior, they fear sicknesses, when a woman feels anything to the extent that even some of them come to me when they are feeling ovulation laughs...,the monthly usual pains, somebody will come. You see musawo, I feel pain by my side, then when you like try to access, you will find this woman not sick because you go back and dig past history, she will say even last months it pained me, then you just know, sometimes you just have to counsel and assure but I don’t blame them, am happy with such kind of a person"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! And then what are the common illnesses that are treated at your health centers?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7935968459003404, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s the contrary laughs..., females are three times more than the males that come to the hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So to me I think males have a poor health seeking behavior because even in the village, people who die most are the males, secondly, they always come to the hospital when the condition has worsened, when the man is not feeling really bad, this man does not really come but women, they have really good health seeking behavior, they fear sicknesses, when a woman feels anything to the extent that even some of them come to me when they are feeling ovulation laughs...,the monthly usual pains, somebody will come. You see musawo, I feel pain by my side, then when you like try to access, you will find this woman not sick because you go back and dig past history, she will say even last months it pained me, then you just know, sometimes you just have to counsel and assure but I don’t blame them, am happy with such kind of a person"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! And then what are the common illnesses that are treated at your health centers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most common ones used to be malaria but now days with the issues of IRS, malaria has reduced although it has started shooting abit ehh...but not much but now the most common ones are the respiratory tract disease infections,yes,many of them come feeling cough, pain in the throat, chest pains, those things"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the sore throat cases, are they diagnosed?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9928853843337115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So to me I think males have a poor health seeking behavior because even in the village, people who die most are the males, secondly, they always come to the hospital when the condition has worsened, when the man is not feeling really bad, this man does not really come but women, they have really good health seeking behavior, they fear sicknesses, when a woman feels anything to the extent that even some of them come to me when they are feeling ovulation laughs...,the monthly usual pains, somebody will come. You see musawo, I feel pain by my side, then when you like try to access, you will find this woman not sick because you go back and dig past history, she will say even last months it pained me, then you just know, sometimes you just have to counsel and assure but I don’t blame them, am happy with such kind of a person"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! And then what are the common illnesses that are treated at your health centers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most common ones used to be malaria but now days with the issues of IRS, malaria has reduced although it has started shooting abit ehh...but not much but now the most common ones are the respiratory tract disease infections,yes,many of them come feeling cough, pain in the throat, chest pains, those things"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the sore throat cases, are they diagnosed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sore throat cases, how are they, what are the burdens?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.214317093704124, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most common ones used to be malaria but now days with the issues of IRS, malaria has reduced although it has started shooting abit ehh...but not much but now the most common ones are the respiratory tract disease infections,yes,many of them come feeling cough, pain in the throat, chest pains, those things"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the sore throat cases, are they diagnosed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sore throat cases, how are they, what are the burdens?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are there, they always come with the issue of sore throat hmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, how about RHD, do you get some here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.733724807042128, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are there, they always come with the issue of sore throat hmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, how about RHD, do you get some here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Acute rheumatic fevers?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD, yes, I have seen, I have been referring people here and a good number of them were found positive"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you remember in the last one year, have you received any?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0374720078245865, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Acute rheumatic fevers?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD, yes, I have seen, I have been referring people here and a good number of them were found positive"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you remember in the last one year, have you received any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Except I have not kept the records but they can reach even more than 10"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you refer them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3749688975828738, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD, yes, I have seen, I have been referring people here and a good number of them were found positive"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you remember in the last one year, have you received any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Except I have not kept the records but they can reach even more than 10"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you refer them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and I used to get the feedback and always when am referring them, I also tell them, please after there, you can also come back to me although some of them do not go but whether they go or not, the people who work there in the institute always when they visit, sometimes we always interact on phones, they tell me but for me always when am referring, I first call ahead to like avoid bouncing, I always don’t like my clients to bounce."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, that is nice to hear, that means there is a way you communicate to these people"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7499654417587487, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Except I have not kept the records but they can reach even more than 10"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you refer them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and I used to get the feedback and always when am referring them, I also tell them, please after there, you can also come back to me although some of them do not go but whether they go or not, the people who work there in the institute always when they visit, sometimes we always interact on phones, they tell me but for me always when am referring, I first call ahead to like avoid bouncing, I always don’t like my clients to bounce."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, that is nice to hear, that means there is a way you communicate to these people"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Has it helped in the..., do you see the advantage in that when you make the follow up calls?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.166628268620832, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and I used to get the feedback and always when am referring them, I also tell them, please after there, you can also come back to me although some of them do not go but whether they go or not, the people who work there in the institute always when they visit, sometimes we always interact on phones, they tell me but for me always when am referring, I first call ahead to like avoid bouncing, I always don’t like my clients to bounce."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, that is nice to hear, that means there is a way you communicate to these people"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Has it helped in the..., do you see the advantage in that when you make the follow up calls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I have found it really very important because out of the client I do send, they have helped me find out the other diseases like for instance there was a child I sent, I was very happy with that child, the..., he was..., the acute rheumatic fever was negative but they found the child had sickle cell disease and up to now am managing the child, the child has improved compared to the way he came to me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Let’s talk about your training on RHD, have you ever received any training on RHD during school days?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.518475854023146, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Has it helped in the..., do you see the advantage in that when you make the follow up calls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I have found it really very important because out of the client I do send, they have helped me find out the other diseases like for instance there was a child I sent, I was very happy with that child, the..., he was..., the acute rheumatic fever was negative but they found the child had sickle cell disease and up to now am managing the child, the child has improved compared to the way he came to me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Let’s talk about your training on RHD, have you ever received any training on RHD during school days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During school days?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, have they ever introduced a topic about RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.826441500717621, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In school?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They didn’t?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you get the information that you know?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.251601667464024, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They didn’t?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you get the information that you know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got the information through these people who are working in the acute rheumatic fever, I was called for a short training in lira hotel, then they briefed us, by the way I was working and I think I used to like make them pass a lot of them minus me realizing their conditions because you find someone every time having cough, we could but not having that in mind, after interacting with these people, I went back with the forms, started now accessing them, somebody comes, there is fever, joint pains, cough, what...that has not been treated, whether treated but with no improvement, so such are the cases I have been sending here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So before you got that message, what would you do with those patients who had those symptoms?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9155576141531145, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got the information through these people who are working in the acute rheumatic fever, I was called for a short training in lira hotel, then they briefed us, by the way I was working and I think I used to like make them pass a lot of them minus me realizing their conditions because you find someone every time having cough, we could but not having that in mind, after interacting with these people, I went back with the forms, started now accessing them, somebody comes, there is fever, joint pains, cough, what...that has not been treated, whether treated but with no improvement, so such are the cases I have been sending here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So before you got that message, what would you do with those patients who had those symptoms?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "what I would do with those patients, I used to treat them first at contact, when they come back again with no improvement, I would find them referrals and refer them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To the exact place, the way I do it now days, those days I could just say, you go to lira regional hospital but you know, when they come, they go to OPD and even those days lira used to miss, the regional referral used to miss because they used to come to OPD and then the doctors may see the treatment I have given and also change to stronger anti biotic,."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so that is how it is?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.128397349059016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "what I would do with those patients, I used to treat them first at contact, when they come back again with no improvement, I would find them referrals and refer them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To the exact place, the way I do it now days, those days I could just say, you go to lira regional hospital but you know, when they come, they go to OPD and even those days lira used to miss, the regional referral used to miss because they used to come to OPD and then the doctors may see the treatment I have given and also change to stronger anti biotic,."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so that is how it is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then after graduation, these people of RHD who trained you about RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3648859433989067, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To the exact place, the way I do it now days, those days I could just say, you go to lira regional hospital but you know, when they come, they go to OPD and even those days lira used to miss, the regional referral used to miss because they used to come to OPD and then the doctors may see the treatment I have given and also change to stronger anti biotic,."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so that is how it is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then after graduation, these people of RHD who trained you about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "pardon"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since you graduated, is the project here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6276510482210074, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then after graduation, these people of RHD who trained you about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "pardon"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since you graduated, is the project here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who trained you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.919612275801119, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "pardon"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since you graduated, is the project here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who trained you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you had any CMEs on RHD management or prevention?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6044595997544677, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you had any CMEs on RHD management or prevention?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my unit?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I always have CMEs with my staffs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But have you ever introduced a topic on RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.0049551108382975, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my unit?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I always have CMEs with my staffs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But have you ever introduced a topic on RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, now days even if am not in the facility, any staff give health education to the OPD about that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have they all been trained?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3388390120425533, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I always have CMEs with my staffs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But have you ever introduced a topic on RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, now days even if am not in the facility, any staff give health education to the OPD about that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have they all been trained?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they have not all been trained but I have been hinting the information through CME"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, wonderful, now before you came to these guys, you didn’t have this kind of CMEs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7098211244917256, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, now days even if am not in the facility, any staff give health education to the OPD about that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have they all been trained?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they have not all been trained but I have been hinting the information through CME"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, wonderful, now before you came to these guys, you didn’t have this kind of CMEs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok thank you, so you made a record at all times?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.122023471657473, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they have not all been trained but I have been hinting the information through CME"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, wonderful, now before you came to these guys, you didn’t have this kind of CMEs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok thank you, so you made a record at all times?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In what times"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.580026079619413, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok thank you, so you made a record at all times?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In what times"}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In what period?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.86669564402157, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In what times"}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In what period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes even in a day, I could transfer ,it depends on how they come like in a week, I could send 3-4 like that ,ok you said that you have asked only for the last one year but in total, those that I have sent here are more than 30 even"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are more than 30?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1852173822461887, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In what period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes even in a day, I could transfer ,it depends on how they come like in a week, I could send 3-4 like that ,ok you said that you have asked only for the last one year but in total, those that I have sent here are more than 30 even"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are more than 30?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually I interacted with her at one point and she told me that I am the one who has been sending the highest number"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The highest number?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.932367138575542, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually I interacted with her at one point and she told me that I am the one who has been sending the highest number"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The highest number?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got even the motivation laughs..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Wow!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was motivated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good to her that, so in a month, you can send how many?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.369296820639491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got even the motivation laughs..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Wow!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was motivated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good to her that, so in a month, you can send how many?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a month, it depends, sometimes I even get 1 or 2 but sometimes they come even 5-6"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are the age group?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.92505780325863, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a month, it depends, sometimes I even get 1 or 2 but sometimes they come even 5-6"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are the age group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The age I have been sending is 4..., 5-18."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "5-18?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think below 5 is hard"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and the...then so, they come as outpatients in your place ehh and then you send them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.250064225842922, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The age I have been sending is 4..., 5-18."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "5-18?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think below 5 is hard"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and the...then so, they come as outpatients in your place ehh and then you send them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They come in as outpatient, then I access them and I rule out other things and I send them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, wonderful, now am interested in what you are taught about RHD, what do you think are the causes of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6111824731588023, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think below 5 is hard"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and the...then so, they come as outpatients in your place ehh and then you send them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They come in as outpatient, then I access them and I rule out other things and I send them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, wonderful, now am interested in what you are taught about RHD, what do you think are the causes of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think is the ..., I could say it is congenital, some people are born with it but some due to the exposure of other things like sometimes for instance, those who come with too much cough which maybe sometimes its poorly or untreated respiratory tract disease, so that is what I think and also sometimes I also think maybe some poisoning due to chemicals and others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and the are you aware of the link between the sore throat and RHD"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.012424970176447, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They come in as outpatient, then I access them and I rule out other things and I send them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, wonderful, now am interested in what you are taught about RHD, what do you think are the causes of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think is the ..., I could say it is congenital, some people are born with it but some due to the exposure of other things like sometimes for instance, those who come with too much cough which maybe sometimes its poorly or untreated respiratory tract disease, so that is what I think and also sometimes I also think maybe some poisoning due to chemicals and others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and the are you aware of the link between the sore throat and RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the two of them associated or related in anyway, sore throat and RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.458249966862718, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think is the ..., I could say it is congenital, some people are born with it but some due to the exposure of other things like sometimes for instance, those who come with too much cough which maybe sometimes its poorly or untreated respiratory tract disease, so that is what I think and also sometimes I also think maybe some poisoning due to chemicals and others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and the are you aware of the link between the sore throat and RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the two of them associated or related in anyway, sore throat and RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are they related?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.953611074291909, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the two of them associated or related in anyway, sore throat and RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are they related?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t explain much but to me I know there is some relation between the two"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are related?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.5040123047687874, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are they related?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t explain much but to me I know there is some relation between the two"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are related?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what were you taught that can prevent RHD, how can people prevent it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 6.115569227520875, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t explain much but to me I know there is some relation between the two"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are related?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what were you taught that can prevent RHD, how can people prevent it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think first of all to prevent this RHD does not start from now but it starts even when the mother is preparing for conception, how the mother is fed and how the mother takes medications like the folic acid and also these pregnant mothers are not supposed to take any drugs anyhow minus medical consent and then finally how the child is kept from birth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then what were you taught are the treatment option for RHD? How is it treated?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4617435861343053, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what were you taught that can prevent RHD, how can people prevent it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think first of all to prevent this RHD does not start from now but it starts even when the mother is preparing for conception, how the mother is fed and how the mother takes medications like the folic acid and also these pregnant mothers are not supposed to take any drugs anyhow minus medical consent and then finally how the child is kept from birth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then what were you taught are the treatment option for RHD? How is it treated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I may not know all but I know of PPF given once in a month and the time duration depends, it will be given but with a review, but for some people can take like 6 months, and some can go like a year or others even 2 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when they are...?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.273757513746056, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I may not know all but I know of PPF given once in a month and the time duration depends, it will be given but with a review, but for some people can take like 6 months, and some can go like a year or others even 2 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when they are...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they are still getting their treatment"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do they ever stop?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.74861945971784, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they are still getting their treatment"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do they ever stop?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not yet known someone whom they have stopped the treatment because the program has not yet taken long here but for me I think they stop, that is my thinking, when the fault is corrected"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does it cure. The RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.862493160145482, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not yet known someone whom they have stopped the treatment because the program has not yet taken long here but for me I think they stop, that is my thinking, when the fault is corrected"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does it cure. The RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes to me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, what do you understand by the long term prognosis of having RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.513881289050536, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes to me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, what do you understand by the long term prognosis of having RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The long term prognosis of RHD depends, for those who have realized and taken care of, the prognosis may not be very bad but for those ones that go unrealized, they end up with a poor prognosis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, now tell me about your encounter with patients who have RHD, when did you last see one?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.696149739568563, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The long term prognosis of RHD depends, for those who have realized and taken care of, the prognosis may not be very bad but for those ones that go unrealized, they end up with a poor prognosis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, now tell me about your encounter with patients who have RHD, when did you last see one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I last saw one this year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think around September"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "September? Tell me, when that person came, how old is that person?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.2179441550761805, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I last saw one this year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think around September"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "September? Tell me, when that person came, how old is that person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This girl is 12 -13 years there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What symptoms did she have?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.797715727862423, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think around September"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "September? Tell me, when that person came, how old is that person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This girl is 12 -13 years there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What symptoms did she have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was having cough with chest pain and then I told the mother to bring her here, she was brought and when tested, she was found to be having it, the RHD and she was put on treatment, she normally comes back monthly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok so you have told me you see many, you have not seen kids below 5 years, you only see those..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.824340404768424, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was having cough with chest pain and then I told the mother to bring her here, she was brought and when tested, she was found to be having it, the RHD and she was put on treatment, she normally comes back monthly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok so you have told me you see many, you have not seen kids below 5 years, you only see those..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they are there, of course they are there maybe how they explain themselves is not easy but I have seen from 5 and above"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Above to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Up to 18 mostly, last year or early this year, most of them I was finding people of around 16 to 17 years most common"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where they in school children?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.24926711640936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they are there, of course they are there maybe how they explain themselves is not easy but I have seen from 5 and above"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Above to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Up to 18 mostly, last year or early this year, most of them I was finding people of around 16 to 17 years most common"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where they in school children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they were school children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then do you think these patients, do they know the link or relationship between sore throat, acute rheumatic fevers and then RHD? Do they know the association?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 4.721407907121511, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Up to 18 mostly, last year or early this year, most of them I was finding people of around 16 to 17 years most common"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where they in school children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they were school children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then do you think these patients, do they know the link or relationship between sore throat, acute rheumatic fevers and then RHD? Do they know the association?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For them they do not know"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when they come to you, what do they say, what do they think is the problem?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9126754523572354, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they were school children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then do you think these patients, do they know the link or relationship between sore throat, acute rheumatic fevers and then RHD? Do they know the association?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For them they do not know"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when they come to you, what do they say, what do they think is the problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And the worst thing in the village, once someone has the sore throat, this person will go to the old woman, who will open the throat and do anything, yes, so to them they think the throat is having either the pus or its growing the oedemal and there is that local tonsillectomy they do in the village but we are trying to health educate them, others are understanding but others still go for it up to now. Like last week ah...,somebody was just about to take the child for that local tonsillectomy, then I told her, you don’t have to take ,what you do, you first use these antibiotics, I gave, I gave metronidazole and Amoxicillin plus the pain killers and after two days, she came back to me and said the child took the medicine for two days and vomited pus and there was already improvement, I told her, did you take to the other woman, she said no, I didn’t, so that child improved on that medication but its most common in the villages that by the time they are bringing a child to you, sometimes for me always when they come at times they hide it but the moment the mother talks about coughs and maybe ear and pain in the throat, I always ask have you done anything in the throat, and in most cases they would have done it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do they always prefer going to that old woman, why do you think they go there. Why don’t they believe they can be treated in the health center?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1251949470635947, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For them they do not know"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when they come to you, what do they say, what do they think is the problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And the worst thing in the village, once someone has the sore throat, this person will go to the old woman, who will open the throat and do anything, yes, so to them they think the throat is having either the pus or its growing the oedemal and there is that local tonsillectomy they do in the village but we are trying to health educate them, others are understanding but others still go for it up to now. Like last week ah...,somebody was just about to take the child for that local tonsillectomy, then I told her, you don’t have to take ,what you do, you first use these antibiotics, I gave, I gave metronidazole and Amoxicillin plus the pain killers and after two days, she came back to me and said the child took the medicine for two days and vomited pus and there was already improvement, I told her, did you take to the other woman, she said no, I didn’t, so that child improved on that medication but its most common in the villages that by the time they are bringing a child to you, sometimes for me always when they come at times they hide it but the moment the mother talks about coughs and maybe ear and pain in the throat, I always ask have you done anything in the throat, and in most cases they would have done it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do they always prefer going to that old woman, why do you think they go there. Why don’t they believe they can be treated in the health center?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think its ignorance and how people started, they see that it helps but to me it doesn’t because at times when that local tonsillectomy is done from home, at times it goes to some serious cases of septicemia and sometimes even the way it is cut, anemia sets in and even it claims the lives of very many children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are dying?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3613277189595494, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And the worst thing in the village, once someone has the sore throat, this person will go to the old woman, who will open the throat and do anything, yes, so to them they think the throat is having either the pus or its growing the oedemal and there is that local tonsillectomy they do in the village but we are trying to health educate them, others are understanding but others still go for it up to now. Like last week ah...,somebody was just about to take the child for that local tonsillectomy, then I told her, you don’t have to take ,what you do, you first use these antibiotics, I gave, I gave metronidazole and Amoxicillin plus the pain killers and after two days, she came back to me and said the child took the medicine for two days and vomited pus and there was already improvement, I told her, did you take to the other woman, she said no, I didn’t, so that child improved on that medication but its most common in the villages that by the time they are bringing a child to you, sometimes for me always when they come at times they hide it but the moment the mother talks about coughs and maybe ear and pain in the throat, I always ask have you done anything in the throat, and in most cases they would have done it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do they always prefer going to that old woman, why do you think they go there. Why don’t they believe they can be treated in the health center?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think its ignorance and how people started, they see that it helps but to me it doesn’t because at times when that local tonsillectomy is done from home, at times it goes to some serious cases of septicemia and sometimes even the way it is cut, anemia sets in and even it claims the lives of very many children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are dying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything done maybe to educate those old ladies, have you had the interaction with the old ladies where they do that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6236974655106104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think its ignorance and how people started, they see that it helps but to me it doesn’t because at times when that local tonsillectomy is done from home, at times it goes to some serious cases of septicemia and sometimes even the way it is cut, anemia sets in and even it claims the lives of very many children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are dying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything done maybe to educate those old ladies, have you had the interaction with the old ladies where they do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The problem maybe we can just communicate to them maybe when there is a radio program but those ladies, the traditional healers, they are not really very much close with the health centers and hospitals and you know with the nature of our work and the schedules, we are always busy, there is no way we can find them but anyway, we give the information to the clients who come, just as I can just say we give, there are those who take and there are those who don’t take the information we give them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then basically, the symptoms you said they describe is chest pain, fever..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9152194061229006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything done maybe to educate those old ladies, have you had the interaction with the old ladies where they do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The problem maybe we can just communicate to them maybe when there is a radio program but those ladies, the traditional healers, they are not really very much close with the health centers and hospitals and you know with the nature of our work and the schedules, we are always busy, there is no way we can find them but anyway, we give the information to the clients who come, just as I can just say we give, there are those who take and there are those who don’t take the information we give them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then basically, the symptoms you said they describe is chest pain, fever..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes fevers, joint pains and sometimes cough which has taken long and throat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if you look at them, are they good at follow up and adherence, the RHD patients, in your opinion."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.599036303855433, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes fevers, joint pains and sometimes cough which has taken long and throat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if you look at them, are they good at follow up and adherence, the RHD patients, in your opinion."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They do.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you tell them to come for the injections, do you think they come?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.998929226506037, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They do.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you tell them to come for the injections, do you think they come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes them to come?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.443254696117819, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you tell them to come for the injections, do you think they come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes them to come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s the way they are counselled, they well know of what taking place is and what may happen if they don’t follow the treatment, they do come"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else apart from the counselling, what makes some people to come?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.016363822367677, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s the way they are counselled, they well know of what taking place is and what may happen if they don’t follow the treatment, they do come"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else apart from the counselling, what makes some people to come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes even from there I always tell them when they come ,transport is met like where I work as I told you, it’s like 17 kms and the boda is 6000shs, so when you come and go, that is 10,000shs plus minus eating something but always when they come, they are refunded their transport, so it makes them come because sometimes when you are referring, they tell you, you see musawo,there is no money, there is no what...but when I tell them, you go ,the money you are going to use for transport, they are going to refund it.you know in the village, you can pick a boda and waits for you to take you back, so that is how they are like trying to like meet ...Yeah, so the motivation is one, if you give them transport, two when you give them counselling"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Three is that, those ones who come to the hospital are those ones who care for their lives, so they take whatever advice you give"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other, so how about those, do you think that there are those who don’t come or who miss their drugs"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3515153581863077, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes even from there I always tell them when they come ,transport is met like where I work as I told you, it’s like 17 kms and the boda is 6000shs, so when you come and go, that is 10,000shs plus minus eating something but always when they come, they are refunded their transport, so it makes them come because sometimes when you are referring, they tell you, you see musawo,there is no money, there is no what...but when I tell them, you go ,the money you are going to use for transport, they are going to refund it.you know in the village, you can pick a boda and waits for you to take you back, so that is how they are like trying to like meet ...Yeah, so the motivation is one, if you give them transport, two when you give them counselling"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Three is that, those ones who come to the hospital are those ones who care for their lives, so they take whatever advice you give"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other, so how about those, do you think that there are those who don’t come or who miss their drugs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is possible"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think some people miss their drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.723905953540342, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Three is that, those ones who come to the hospital are those ones who care for their lives, so they take whatever advice you give"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other, so how about those, do you think that there are those who don’t come or who miss their drugs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is possible"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think some people miss their drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them just take things for granted like that you are told to go back and you don’t mostly when the disease starts, it looks very serious on the beginning of treatment, someone feels there is improvement and when they feel there is improvement, they think that they are healed then they will now miss to come and sometimes they forget the dates of appointments and others on realizing that they have passed laughs...they refuse to come"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why would they fear to come when they skip the dates of appointment?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9154510594892689, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is possible"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think some people miss their drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them just take things for granted like that you are told to go back and you don’t mostly when the disease starts, it looks very serious on the beginning of treatment, someone feels there is improvement and when they feel there is improvement, they think that they are healed then they will now miss to come and sometimes they forget the dates of appointments and others on realizing that they have passed laughs...they refuse to come"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why would they fear to come when they skip the dates of appointment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know by the common saying, they say that for us the medics we are harsh because you are reaching here, the first thing I am not saying it has happened in the RHD but its common within health, not because the health workers are very bad but they know the implications of missing ,so of course definitely when you have passed by 3-4 weeks or even you have passed by 4-5 days, they will ask you why didn’t you come on the exact date because even the reasons they give do not impress the health workers like somebody will say I had gone to visit, such things, you find visit is not more important than health"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another thing just to take you back, have you encountered patients who go to those traditional, those elders in the villages who lied to you, when you asked them have you gone there and lied but you later discovered that surely ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.627504882701329, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are there, they lie, most especially with the middle age, they lie"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They lie?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course they go there even when they are doing wrong things, they are guilty, they know it’s not right and definitely they will not, it’s not easy to start from there and because you are defeated from there and now you come to the health center"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, some of them lie?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9194498696681435, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course they go there even when they are doing wrong things, they are guilty, they know it’s not right and definitely they will not, it’s not easy to start from there and because you are defeated from there and now you come to the health center"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, some of them lie?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, some of them lie but mostly mothers of very young children, they don’t lie because they know when you don’t tell the truth, it will not be well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, now then, how about those who miss their drugs when you give them a 30 days treatment, why do some of them not adhering to the drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2438331885201594, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course they go there even when they are doing wrong things, they are guilty, they know it’s not right and definitely they will not, it’s not easy to start from there and because you are defeated from there and now you come to the health center"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, some of them lie?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, some of them lie but mostly mothers of very young children, they don’t lie because they know when you don’t tell the truth, it will not be well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, now then, how about those who miss their drugs when you give them a 30 days treatment, why do some of them not adhering to the drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At first I said, sometimes its ignorance, at times they forget the drugs, at times they have started feeling fairer than before"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok and then ah...what are some of the barriers or problems that you face when you’re taking care of these patients, what do you think are the difficulties you get in caring for them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6042590983557328, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, some of them lie but mostly mothers of very young children, they don’t lie because they know when you don’t tell the truth, it will not be well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, now then, how about those who miss their drugs when you give them a 30 days treatment, why do some of them not adhering to the drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At first I said, sometimes its ignorance, at times they forget the drugs, at times they have started feeling fairer than before"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok and then ah...what are some of the barriers or problems that you face when you’re taking care of these patients, what do you think are the difficulties you get in caring for them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok we don’t, actually in a health center where we work, we don’t care for them from here because the drug is always taken there, we always refer them to come and get treatment from here, so to me I think we don’t face the difficulties, the only challenge is that they don’t come willingly to be accessed and referred by us, we talk a lot, health educate them and then they will start coming"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do they resist coming here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.00473233150637, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At first I said, sometimes its ignorance, at times they forget the drugs, at times they have started feeling fairer than before"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok and then ah...what are some of the barriers or problems that you face when you’re taking care of these patients, what do you think are the difficulties you get in caring for them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok we don’t, actually in a health center where we work, we don’t care for them from here because the drug is always taken there, we always refer them to come and get treatment from here, so to me I think we don’t face the difficulties, the only challenge is that they don’t come willingly to be accessed and referred by us, we talk a lot, health educate them and then they will start coming"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do they resist coming here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do they resist coming here, why don’t they come willingly?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 4.944113989514037, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do they resist coming here, why don’t they come willingly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they come willingly but sometimes they are not aware of the problems, in the most cases, they are not aware"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then for other illnesses that you face, what are some of the barriers you get in treating these patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.165572826560539, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then for other illnesses that you face, what are some of the barriers you get in treating these patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One is lack of adherence, you like give treatment ,somebody goes to take it for two days, when there is improvement, she keeps it in the house, the next time another child is sick, she will start with the balance of the remaining drugs of another child unless the child starts feeling fair, it is stopped, two weeks later, the disease is back and the biggest challenge we have in the health setting is that the drugs that are provided by the national medical stores are not enough, they bring it like now and it has to serve for two months and at the end of one month’s sometimes the drugs is even over, the remaining one month, they come when there is no what...,when there is no drugs in the health center and always patients when they come and go back empty handed, they will not come back until they hear rumors that the vehicle has passed laughed...,then..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The vehicle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The national medical medicine vehicle, then they will know maybe drugs are brought, let me go and check"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So even they know the vehicle?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2950809184005987, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One is lack of adherence, you like give treatment ,somebody goes to take it for two days, when there is improvement, she keeps it in the house, the next time another child is sick, she will start with the balance of the remaining drugs of another child unless the child starts feeling fair, it is stopped, two weeks later, the disease is back and the biggest challenge we have in the health setting is that the drugs that are provided by the national medical stores are not enough, they bring it like now and it has to serve for two months and at the end of one month’s sometimes the drugs is even over, the remaining one month, they come when there is no what...,when there is no drugs in the health center and always patients when they come and go back empty handed, they will not come back until they hear rumors that the vehicle has passed laughed...,then..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The vehicle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The national medical medicine vehicle, then they will know maybe drugs are brought, let me go and check"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So even they know the vehicle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they know very well, that is why when drugs is brought, the population in the health center is too much, when drugs are not there, they will even relax, they become very few because they say even if you go, they will not give you anything, so that is the time they go to any drug shop and buy anything"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you told me usually when maybe those who miss appointments they come late, when they come to you, they say maybe we went for burials forgot, which other excuses do they give?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4389787982228874, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The national medical medicine vehicle, then they will know maybe drugs are brought, let me go and check"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So even they know the vehicle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they know very well, that is why when drugs is brought, the population in the health center is too much, when drugs are not there, they will even relax, they become very few because they say even if you go, they will not give you anything, so that is the time they go to any drug shop and buy anything"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you told me usually when maybe those who miss appointments they come late, when they come to you, they say maybe we went for burials forgot, which other excuses do they give?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even I went for the visit"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "she went for the visit?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5988653313587637, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they know very well, that is why when drugs is brought, the population in the health center is too much, when drugs are not there, they will even relax, they become very few because they say even if you go, they will not give you anything, so that is the time they go to any drug shop and buy anything"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you told me usually when maybe those who miss appointments they come late, when they come to you, they say maybe we went for burials forgot, which other excuses do they give?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even I went for the visit"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "she went for the visit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, those ones"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else, what else do they tell you"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7765170348430708, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even I went for the visit"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "she went for the visit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, those ones"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else, what else do they tell you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes I had a burial but those ones are guinuine,at times I went for a visit, at times I forgot, at times I thought I had gotten healed, there was no more pain and what have you"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the excuses they give?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1932309072136675, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes I had a burial but those ones are guinuine,at times I went for a visit, at times I forgot, at times I thought I had gotten healed, there was no more pain and what have you"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the excuses they give?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those are the few I can remember"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so, according to you, why do you think they don’t come back apart from you said when they feel better, they relax, why, what else makes them not to come when they feel better? Your opinion now, what they tell you."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4369232302374084, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those are the few I can remember"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so, according to you, why do you think they don’t come back apart from you said when they feel better, they relax, why, what else makes them not to come when they feel better? Your opinion now, what they tell you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To me?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said when they feel better, they give up"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7076924780415648, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those are the few I can remember"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so, according to you, why do you think they don’t come back apart from you said when they feel better, they relax, why, what else makes them not to come when they feel better? Your opinion now, what they tell you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To me?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said when they feel better, they give up"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they feel better they relax"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what else, what other barriers are they facing in coming for the treatment?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7142557997826673, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe at times is distance"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The distance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the distance, the weather, the climate condition"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which weather"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually when it’s raining, like if it rains during day time, every activity is at stand still because in the village settings, they have ..., so you can’t start moving in the rain that you are coming for your appointment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the weather condition, the weather, the distance and when they feel better, they don’t come, any other that we have not talked about?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.126950888647408, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the distance, the weather, the climate condition"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which weather"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually when it’s raining, like if it rains during day time, every activity is at stand still because in the village settings, they have ..., so you can’t start moving in the rain that you are coming for your appointment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the weather condition, the weather, the distance and when they feel better, they don’t come, any other that we have not talked about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let’s look at the some of the local health barriers and we want to know which pieces are working for you and why and which ones are not working for you, when you look at the district administration and leadership, is it working for you, is it enabling you to do your work well when treating patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.585500987386009, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually when it’s raining, like if it rains during day time, every activity is at stand still because in the village settings, they have ..., so you can’t start moving in the rain that you are coming for your appointment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the weather condition, the weather, the distance and when they feel better, they don’t come, any other that we have not talked about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let’s look at the some of the local health barriers and we want to know which pieces are working for you and why and which ones are not working for you, when you look at the district administration and leadership, is it working for you, is it enabling you to do your work well when treating patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How, why do you feel like it’s working for you"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.095001097095565, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let’s look at the some of the local health barriers and we want to know which pieces are working for you and why and which ones are not working for you, when you look at the district administration and leadership, is it working for you, is it enabling you to do your work well when treating patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How, why do you feel like it’s working for you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The district administration?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the leadership, is it working for you, does it make your work easy while you are working?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.944445798883414, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The district administration?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the leadership, is it working for you, does it make your work easy while you are working?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they do, like in lira district, me I can’t blame any department because like in my health center, I always work hand in hand with them, I inform them of the challenges we have in hand in the health center and they always respond"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They respond?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, like for instance in my unit, there was a lot of gaps but they helped me, the last one they had taken survey, there was no clean source of water but I know soon or later, it is going to be better and even my health center is heading to upgrading, actually they had even sent money but I think they diverted the money from up not from the district, they told us to wait for the next financial year, me I have no problems with the authorities, because first of all when it comes to lack of drugs in the unit, it’s not them, no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So ...what are the challenges you face in your administration, you know many cases come to your office, we don’t have this, we don’t have this, and how do you manage?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.382717554314905, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they do, like in lira district, me I can’t blame any department because like in my health center, I always work hand in hand with them, I inform them of the challenges we have in hand in the health center and they always respond"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They respond?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, like for instance in my unit, there was a lot of gaps but they helped me, the last one they had taken survey, there was no clean source of water but I know soon or later, it is going to be better and even my health center is heading to upgrading, actually they had even sent money but I think they diverted the money from up not from the district, they told us to wait for the next financial year, me I have no problems with the authorities, because first of all when it comes to lack of drugs in the unit, it’s not them, no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So ...what are the challenges you face in your administration, you know many cases come to your office, we don’t have this, we don’t have this, and how do you manage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The biggest challenge I face is lack of drugs and other utilities, but how do I manage, I have to just convince the clients to buy from outside because you cannot tell them and sit to wait for the drugs to be brought"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the work force, the number you have in the unit"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.869686171461005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, like for instance in my unit, there was a lot of gaps but they helped me, the last one they had taken survey, there was no clean source of water but I know soon or later, it is going to be better and even my health center is heading to upgrading, actually they had even sent money but I think they diverted the money from up not from the district, they told us to wait for the next financial year, me I have no problems with the authorities, because first of all when it comes to lack of drugs in the unit, it’s not them, no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So ...what are the challenges you face in your administration, you know many cases come to your office, we don’t have this, we don’t have this, and how do you manage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The biggest challenge I face is lack of drugs and other utilities, but how do I manage, I have to just convince the clients to buy from outside because you cannot tell them and sit to wait for the drugs to be brought"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the work force, the number you have in the unit"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The number is less but still it’s from the ministry not from the district because the policy was passed long time, here is away they outline that in this level of health center, these are supposed to be the number of people working, although at the district setting, we still lack because we find some people whose names are there but they have gone back to school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you manage patients with such challenges?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 4.2996513016233395, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The biggest challenge I face is lack of drugs and other utilities, but how do I manage, I have to just convince the clients to buy from outside because you cannot tell them and sit to wait for the drugs to be brought"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the work force, the number you have in the unit"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The number is less but still it’s from the ministry not from the district because the policy was passed long time, here is away they outline that in this level of health center, these are supposed to be the number of people working, although at the district setting, we still lack because we find some people whose names are there but they have gone back to school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you manage patients with such challenges?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We balance ourselves with the few who are there using the duty roster so that all the days are cover with work meanwhile while some people also have their rest because you cannot capture human beings and tell him or her to work from January to 31st December"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, and then if you look at the funding for health care in general, is it working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.456715899441151, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, when you look at the time these patients wait before they are worked on, what do you have to say about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The waiting time is long, right .it’s just due to few staffs in place because the staffs are few but they will want to see everybody and definitely the waiting time at times becomes long"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Long?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then when you look at the quality of services which patients get, are you satisfied?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5074621104901678, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The waiting time is long, right .it’s just due to few staffs in place because the staffs are few but they will want to see everybody and definitely the waiting time at times becomes long"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Long?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then when you look at the quality of services which patients get, are you satisfied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not quite although we try but in situation where you are alone in the consultation room and you have 80 patients out, sometimes you tend to like hurry in order to serve everybody but in hurrying, you will not give quality services to the client because sometimes some of them need your time, you need to talk to them, you need to access them, you need to counsel them but if you do that, then you will not serve the rest and the rest will go back very annoyed, now in order not to annoy them, you hurry, but you know medically when you hurry, you do not give quality service."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you look at the qualification of the health workers you have, are they adequate?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5638467894335197, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then when you look at the quality of services which patients get, are you satisfied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not quite although we try but in situation where you are alone in the consultation room and you have 80 patients out, sometimes you tend to like hurry in order to serve everybody but in hurrying, you will not give quality services to the client because sometimes some of them need your time, you need to talk to them, you need to access them, you need to counsel them but if you do that, then you will not serve the rest and the rest will go back very annoyed, now in order not to annoy them, you hurry, but you know medically when you hurry, you do not give quality service."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you look at the qualification of the health workers you have, are they adequate?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are above, there are those that are adequate and those that are not adequate, but the challenge is, as I told you, the policy we are using now was passed long time when the population was not like now, so you find now because of the few staffs, due to the staffing levels which is not from here, at times even the cadre that is not supposed to do something goes ahead to do it hence leading to poor quality service like for instance maybe clinician is alone doing now some procedures, nursing assistant sits in the consultations, now nursing assistant cannot really access, diagnose and treat well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, the medication you told me, definitely the drugs are not enough, and how about the diagnosis like in your health center, do you have like echo cardiography?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6961071474487897, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are above, there are those that are adequate and those that are not adequate, but the challenge is, as I told you, the policy we are using now was passed long time when the population was not like now, so you find now because of the few staffs, due to the staffing levels which is not from here, at times even the cadre that is not supposed to do something goes ahead to do it hence leading to poor quality service like for instance maybe clinician is alone doing now some procedures, nursing assistant sits in the consultations, now nursing assistant cannot really access, diagnose and treat well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, the medication you told me, definitely the drugs are not enough, and how about the diagnosis like in your health center, do you have like echo cardiography?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Echo cardiography"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have it"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7734523860542107, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Echo cardiography"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have it"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, actually echo cardiography in the whole of lira, maybe it’s in two places, here and that one is it joint medical clinic, I don’t know if there is any but I used to know only two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the two that you know?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8593915400602341, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have it"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, actually echo cardiography in the whole of lira, maybe it’s in two places, here and that one is it joint medical clinic, I don’t know if there is any but I used to know only two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the two that you know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and when you get out, you know its money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your center, do you have like any drugs like for heart failure drugs, drugs for BPG and anticoagulation drugs, do you have those drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:257", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0609772099509063, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and when you get out, you know its money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your center, do you have like any drugs like for heart failure drugs, drugs for BPG and anticoagulation drugs, do you have those drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so patients from your area..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.178863566612118, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so patients from your area..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs..., really far,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they have to come here."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:261", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3098484073467977, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so patients from your area..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs..., really far,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they have to come here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have to come"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you look at the guidelines and protocols for RHD care, do you have any here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:265", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6170967991935774, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have to come"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you look at the guidelines and protocols for RHD care, do you have any here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The guidelines?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about, do you have the referral paths they have to refer the RHD patients"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:267", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.796774221326197, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The guidelines?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about, do you have the referral paths they have to refer the RHD patients"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have the referral forms which have even the numbers, the telephone numbers and you can call ahead of time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they forms for the ministry or forms for the project"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:269", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9964158014735522, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about, do you have the referral paths they have to refer the RHD patients"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have the referral forms which have even the numbers, the telephone numbers and you can call ahead of time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they forms for the ministry or forms for the project"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are for the project, I don’t know if the forms is provided by the ministry but we received it through the project"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Through the project?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:271", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.218239779415058, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have the referral forms which have even the numbers, the telephone numbers and you can call ahead of time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they forms for the ministry or forms for the project"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are for the project, I don’t know if the forms is provided by the ministry but we received it through the project"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Through the project?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at the medical records system and the way health information flows, are you happy with it, is it working for you in your health center?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:273", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.464710866016731, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are for the project, I don’t know if the forms is provided by the ministry but we received it through the project"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Through the project?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at the medical records system and the way health information flows, are you happy with it, is it working for you in your health center?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the registries ok or is there any gap?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:275", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.7385676289074787, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at the medical records system and the way health information flows, are you happy with it, is it working for you in your health center?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the registries ok or is there any gap?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just in case someone wants to look at your records like for a year, is it easy for one to access the register or if I wanted to know like how many suspected RHD patients..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:277", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9317418098971988, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the registries ok or is there any gap?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just in case someone wants to look at your records like for a year, is it easy for one to access the register or if I wanted to know like how many suspected RHD patients..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Except that, ok I hear that it’s a new HMIS tool, maybe its include that one but the old one we were using do not have the provision for that have the provision for that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if someone wants to track the suspected RHD patients or acute rheumatic fever that you had, would it be easy to get that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.146379788774665, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just in case someone wants to look at your records like for a year, is it easy for one to access the register or if I wanted to know like how many suspected RHD patients..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Except that, ok I hear that it’s a new HMIS tool, maybe its include that one but the old one we were using do not have the provision for that have the provision for that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if someone wants to track the suspected RHD patients or acute rheumatic fever that you had, would it be easy to get that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will not be easy to get that because in the beginning even me I was not keeping the records, I could just fill the forms and I refer like that, now one time when they were asking how many are absent, I realized I was not keeping it, yeah and in the HMIS, once they find and whatever the provision for RHD is not there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it is very important to come up with the guidelines?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:281", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.38486643197185, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Except that, ok I hear that it’s a new HMIS tool, maybe its include that one but the old one we were using do not have the provision for that have the provision for that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if someone wants to track the suspected RHD patients or acute rheumatic fever that you had, would it be easy to get that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will not be easy to get that because in the beginning even me I was not keeping the records, I could just fill the forms and I refer like that, now one time when they were asking how many are absent, I realized I was not keeping it, yeah and in the HMIS, once they find and whatever the provision for RHD is not there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it is very important to come up with the guidelines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very important because the ministry knows what happens in the villages through the reporting system but now since it’s not there, we don’t report it directly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what has worked for you in your health center, what are some of those local system health enablers factors that have helped you do your work well, administration, has it worked for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:285", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9442795456442594, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very important because the ministry knows what happens in the villages through the reporting system but now since it’s not there, we don’t report it directly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what has worked for you in your health center, what are some of those local system health enablers factors that have helped you do your work well, administration, has it worked for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Funding"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Funding no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Laughs..., health workers, numbers and qualifications?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:287", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2714217173825104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Funding"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Funding no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Laughs..., health workers, numbers and qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one even no, what has worked for me is the attitude at work, the few members, the few staffs, they have attitude"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what else has motivated you to keep working?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:289", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.6349130193139003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Funding no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Laughs..., health workers, numbers and qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one even no, what has worked for me is the attitude at work, the few members, the few staffs, they have attitude"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what else has motivated you to keep working?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The project always give some little token also although not regularly but that once in a while shows somebody is in care"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, let’s look at the perception of patient’s outcome, generally do you think the patients get the care that they need when they come to you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:291", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.927681132571, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one even no, what has worked for me is the attitude at work, the few members, the few staffs, they have attitude"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, what else has motivated you to keep working?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The project always give some little token also although not regularly but that once in a while shows somebody is in care"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, let’s look at the perception of patient’s outcome, generally do you think the patients get the care that they need when they come to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they do unless if the care that they need is not provided there that is when they don’t get because you know when you come like when I come to you whole heartedly that you are going to help me then you tell me you see, your condition, I cannot work on it, you go to Mulago, now I will start things like how will I reach Mulago, even if it’s the ambulance to take me, they will ask for transport, I mean the fuel, so it’s not easy but services that they can get, they get"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you think that surgeries can be offered to RHD patients"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:293", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.25297903619, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The project always give some little token also although not regularly but that once in a while shows somebody is in care"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, let’s look at the perception of patient’s outcome, generally do you think the patients get the care that they need when they come to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they do unless if the care that they need is not provided there that is when they don’t get because you know when you come like when I come to you whole heartedly that you are going to help me then you tell me you see, your condition, I cannot work on it, you go to Mulago, now I will start things like how will I reach Mulago, even if it’s the ambulance to take me, they will ask for transport, I mean the fuel, so it’s not easy but services that they can get, they get"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you think that surgeries can be offered to RHD patients"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you do it around here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:295", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3921989291000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they do unless if the care that they need is not provided there that is when they don’t get because you know when you come like when I come to you whole heartedly that you are going to help me then you tell me you see, your condition, I cannot work on it, you go to Mulago, now I will start things like how will I reach Mulago, even if it’s the ambulance to take me, they will ask for transport, I mean the fuel, so it’s not easy but services that they can get, they get"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you think that surgeries can be offered to RHD patients"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you do it around here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I have not known about it because I had a friend who had a daughter with the heart condition, the man even lost a land because I referred them here but the condition, no I think even the project had not yet come so they were taken to the health center cardio echo was done but from the private clinic and they were referred to Mulago heart institute and there, they asked them some good millions of money which he had to come back and sell of his land even his business has collapsed but thank God, the child is well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! That is wonderful, and the patient’s safety and the quality of care do you have any concerns? Are the patients managed in a safe way?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:299", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7187641100000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I have not known about it because I had a friend who had a daughter with the heart condition, the man even lost a land because I referred them here but the condition, no I think even the project had not yet come so they were taken to the health center cardio echo was done but from the private clinic and they were referred to Mulago heart institute and there, they asked them some good millions of money which he had to come back and sell of his land even his business has collapsed but thank God, the child is well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! That is wonderful, and the patient’s safety and the quality of care do you have any concerns? Are the patients managed in a safe way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the reasons, why do you feel the quality of care they get and their safety is ok?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:301", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9097379, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the reasons, why do you feel the quality of care they get and their safety is ok?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I see they are happy and they recover"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then have you witnessed, do you think that there are some of the preventable deaths which are occurring in the health center, preventable that the person shouldn’t have died but simply maybe there was some hindrance in the process?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:303", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.121931, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the reasons, why do you feel the quality of care they get and their safety is ok?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I see they are happy and they recover"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then have you witnessed, do you think that there are some of the preventable deaths which are occurring in the health center, preventable that the person shouldn’t have died but simply maybe there was some hindrance in the process?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any incidence that you recall?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:305", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.24659, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I see they are happy and they recover"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then have you witnessed, do you think that there are some of the preventable deaths which are occurring in the health center, preventable that the person shouldn’t have died but simply maybe there was some hindrance in the process?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any incidence that you recall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year around this time in December, the child was brought, the relative told me that they had a child who was not well, a child of 14 years, this child was taken to a certain private clinic, this child moving and he was shot from the chest with a ball and this was the child who was living with the grandmother, the child came back and did not tell the grandmother, after sometime he started feeling severe chest pain, they started treating the child everywhere with no improvement, the time I learnt of the child, he was in a private clinic on oxygen, they referred the child to lira hospital, then I called the acute rheumatic fever, they told us to bring the child, the child was accessed but from here and they found out that the heart was normal but rather the problem was with the lungs and it had grown advanced, the child passed on from here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think there are some patients who are dying in the communities without presenting to the hospital"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:307", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3851, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any incidence that you recall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year around this time in December, the child was brought, the relative told me that they had a child who was not well, a child of 14 years, this child was taken to a certain private clinic, this child moving and he was shot from the chest with a ball and this was the child who was living with the grandmother, the child came back and did not tell the grandmother, after sometime he started feeling severe chest pain, they started treating the child everywhere with no improvement, the time I learnt of the child, he was in a private clinic on oxygen, they referred the child to lira hospital, then I called the acute rheumatic fever, they told us to bring the child, the child was accessed but from here and they found out that the heart was normal but rather the problem was with the lungs and it had grown advanced, the child passed on from here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think there are some patients who are dying in the communities without presenting to the hospital"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are very many"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? Why do you think so?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:309", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.539, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year around this time in December, the child was brought, the relative told me that they had a child who was not well, a child of 14 years, this child was taken to a certain private clinic, this child moving and he was shot from the chest with a ball and this was the child who was living with the grandmother, the child came back and did not tell the grandmother, after sometime he started feeling severe chest pain, they started treating the child everywhere with no improvement, the time I learnt of the child, he was in a private clinic on oxygen, they referred the child to lira hospital, then I called the acute rheumatic fever, they told us to bring the child, the child was accessed but from here and they found out that the heart was normal but rather the problem was with the lungs and it had grown advanced, the child passed on from here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think there are some patients who are dying in the communities without presenting to the hospital"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are very many"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? Why do you think so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I said earlier on that ignorance and poor health seeking behavior as some people in the village, by the way when you live in town, you don’t know what happens in the village, drunkardness is rampant in the village and any father who drinks doesn’t mind what happens in the environment, whether the wife is happy, the children are healthy, it’s not his, for him, he is there, they are very many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do we do?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:311", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.71, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are very many"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? Why do you think so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I said earlier on that ignorance and poor health seeking behavior as some people in the village, by the way when you live in town, you don’t know what happens in the village, drunkardness is rampant in the village and any father who drinks doesn’t mind what happens in the environment, whether the wife is happy, the children are healthy, it’s not his, for him, he is there, they are very many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do we do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We need to sensitize them using better channels maybe we can reach them over the radios, churches and whatever but they need serious sensitization"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your opinion, what are the two most common thing ministry of health should do to improve the patient’s outcome?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00005:313", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I said earlier on that ignorance and poor health seeking behavior as some people in the village, by the way when you live in town, you don’t know what happens in the village, drunkardness is rampant in the village and any father who drinks doesn’t mind what happens in the environment, whether the wife is happy, the children are healthy, it’s not his, for him, he is there, they are very many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do we do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We need to sensitize them using better channels maybe we can reach them over the radios, churches and whatever but they need serious sensitization"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your opinion, what are the two most common thing ministry of health should do to improve the patient’s outcome?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I beg your pardon"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are two most important things you think ministry of health could do to improve the outcome of our patients?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.375710184471579, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am fine and you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am good and how are you Mother?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am also fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me earlier that you are 69 years old, so I would like to know what was happening during the time you were born"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born when we were colonized by the Europeans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ohh, okay and which village were you born from?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5872965240389864, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born when we were colonized by the Europeans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ohh, okay and which village were you born from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Msasa."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which district?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Handeni."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it is in which ward?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6525516933766515, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Msasa."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which district?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Handeni."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it is in which ward?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did know by then I was young"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know the structure of your family like were you living with your father, mother and you children in one household or it was father, mother, children and other relatives in one household or how was it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7250574370851683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Handeni."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it is in which ward?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did know by then I was young"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know the structure of your family like were you living with your father, mother and you children in one household or it was father, mother, children and other relatives in one household or how was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was our parents me and my other siblings and also our grandmothers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many grandmothers were you living with?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.805619374539076, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did know by then I was young"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know the structure of your family like were you living with your father, mother and you children in one household or it was father, mother, children and other relatives in one household or how was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was our parents me and my other siblings and also our grandmothers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many grandmothers were you living with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From which side?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.895132638376751, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was our parents me and my other siblings and also our grandmothers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many grandmothers were you living with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From which side?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my father’s side."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it was father, mother, grandmother and you children living in one household like this?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9945918204186123, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From which side?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my father’s side."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it was father, mother, grandmother and you children living in one household like this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what were the main activities your parents were involved in?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.105102022687347, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my father’s side."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it was father, mother, grandmother and you children living in one household like this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what were the main activities your parents were involved in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there goats, chicken?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2278911363192744, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what were the main activities your parents were involved in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there goats, chicken?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had chicken only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the roles and responsibilities of men by that time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3643234847991936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there goats, chicken?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had chicken only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the roles and responsibilities of men by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was farming for all of them, meaning my father, mother and my grandmother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from farming what was his other duties and responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5159149831102152, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had chicken only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the roles and responsibilities of men by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was farming for all of them, meaning my father, mother and my grandmother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from farming what was his other duties and responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was working as a casual labourer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about his responsibilities at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6843499812335725, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was farming for all of them, meaning my father, mother and my grandmother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from farming what was his other duties and responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was working as a casual labourer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about his responsibilities at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was just farming and when he gets home he will eat and rest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the responsibilities of women, I mean your mother and your grandmother at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.871499979148414, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was working as a casual labourer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about his responsibilities at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was just farming and when he gets home he will eat and rest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the responsibilities of women, I mean your mother and your grandmother at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they come back from the farm they were doing household chores like sweeping the ground, washing dishes, cooking and fetching fire wood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about girl child responsibilities at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0794444212760155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was just farming and when he gets home he will eat and rest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the responsibilities of women, I mean your mother and your grandmother at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they come back from the farm they were doing household chores like sweeping the ground, washing dishes, cooking and fetching fire wood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about girl child responsibilities at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were just there doing nothing because we were young so my mother used to cook for us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you and your siblings go to school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.310493801417795, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they come back from the farm they were doing household chores like sweeping the ground, washing dishes, cooking and fetching fire wood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about girl child responsibilities at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were just there doing nothing because we were young so my mother used to cook for us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you and your siblings go to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes my siblings got the opportunity to get education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother how many were you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.45610422379755, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were just there doing nothing because we were young so my mother used to cook for us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you and your siblings go to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes my siblings got the opportunity to get education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother how many were you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are four."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So three of them were educated?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6178935819972777, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes my siblings got the opportunity to get education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother how many were you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are four."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So three of them were educated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Up to which level?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7976595355525307, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are four."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So three of them were educated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Up to which level?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both of them reached class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know how you were feeding when you were young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9973994839472562, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Up to which level?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both of them reached class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know how you were feeding when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating very well, we used to drink milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what kind of food were you eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2193327599413957, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both of them reached class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know how you were feeding when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating very well, we used to drink milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what kind of food were you eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating rice, ugali, milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the food you were eating most?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3548141777126619, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating very well, we used to drink milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what kind of food were you eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating rice, ugali, milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the food you were eating most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ugali and what?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.505349086347402, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating rice, ugali, milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the food you were eating most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ugali and what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hombo, beans,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your milk intake?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6726100959415577, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ugali and what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hombo, beans,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your milk intake?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to drink at least a cup."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it every day?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8584556621572863, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hombo, beans,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your milk intake?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to drink at least a cup."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it every day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes it is every day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the food you were eating rarely?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.064950735730318, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to drink at least a cup."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it every day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes it is every day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the food you were eating rarely?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just ugali and porridge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, I would like to know when you were young living with your parents what kind of food you were eating most?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2943897063670198, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes it is every day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the food you were eating rarely?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just ugali and porridge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, I would like to know when you were young living with your parents what kind of food you were eating most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was just maize meal and wild vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of wild vegetables are those?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5493218959633555, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just ugali and porridge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, I would like to know when you were young living with your parents what kind of food you were eating most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was just maize meal and wild vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of wild vegetables are those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hare lettuce, Sodom apples, mabwando, night shade and we used oyster nuts, pumpkin seeds and also cucumber seeds and Kungujuu as oil. Our mother’s used to soak maize and grind using a stone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the food you were eating rarely?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.832579884403728, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was just maize meal and wild vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of wild vegetables are those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hare lettuce, Sodom apples, mabwando, night shade and we used oyster nuts, pumpkin seeds and also cucumber seeds and Kungujuu as oil. Our mother’s used to soak maize and grind using a stone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the food you were eating rarely?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be pork because we do not eat at all, otherwise we eat everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean the food you did not eat most of the time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.036199871559698, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hare lettuce, Sodom apples, mabwando, night shade and we used oyster nuts, pumpkin seeds and also cucumber seeds and Kungujuu as oil. Our mother’s used to soak maize and grind using a stone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the food you were eating rarely?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be pork because we do not eat at all, otherwise we eat everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean the food you did not eat most of the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be rice we ate rarely, because we used to eat ugali three times a day every day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the special food prepared for a group of people like children or women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2624443017329976, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be pork because we do not eat at all, otherwise we eat everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean the food you did not eat most of the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be rice we ate rarely, because we used to eat ugali three times a day every day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the special food prepared for a group of people like children or women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Babies were taking porridge, and for women them they were eating ugali crust and also ugali which stick on the wood spoon hahahaaaaa."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about sick people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5138270019255526, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be rice we ate rarely, because we used to eat ugali three times a day every day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the special food prepared for a group of people like children or women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Babies were taking porridge, and for women them they were eating ugali crust and also ugali which stick on the wood spoon hahahaaaaa."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about sick people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Porridge and soft ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about pregnant women what kind of food were they eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.793141113250614, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Babies were taking porridge, and for women them they were eating ugali crust and also ugali which stick on the wood spoon hahahaaaaa."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about sick people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Porridge and soft ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about pregnant women what kind of food were they eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Soft rice and bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where did you source your food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1034901258340155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Porridge and soft ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about pregnant women what kind of food were they eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Soft rice and bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where did you source your food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to farm and when the food got finished we were buying from the shops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food were you growing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.448322362037795, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Soft rice and bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where did you source your food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to farm and when the food got finished we were buying from the shops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food were you growing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize and sorghum."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the food you were buying from the shops?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.8314692911531054, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to farm and when the food got finished we were buying from the shops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food were you growing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize and sorghum."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the food you were buying from the shops?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize, rice, maize flour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about food you got from the wild?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0349658790590057, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize and sorghum."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the food you were buying from the shops?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize, rice, maize flour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about food you got from the wild?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hare lettuce, kungujuu, nightshades, kungwija, and Sodom apples."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, where were you sourcing food when you were young living with your parents?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.261073198954451, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize, rice, maize flour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about food you got from the wild?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hare lettuce, kungujuu, nightshades, kungwija, and Sodom apples."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, where were you sourcing food when you were young living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father used to buy food from the shops,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which type of food were you buying from the shops?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4011924432827234, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hare lettuce, kungujuu, nightshades, kungwija, and Sodom apples."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, where were you sourcing food when you were young living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father used to buy food from the shops,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which type of food were you buying from the shops?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize flour, rice and beans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father I would like to know who was making food decision in your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5568804925363593, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father used to buy food from the shops,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which type of food were you buying from the shops?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize flour, rice and beans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father I would like to know who was making food decision in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was my father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was making decision on the type of food to be prepared at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.729867213929288, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize flour, rice and beans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father I would like to know who was making food decision in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was my father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was making decision on the type of food to be prepared at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was responsible to provide food for our family and my mother used to tell my father when the food got finished so that he can buy so every decision was from my father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me earlier that your parents were farmers so I would like to know what amount of food were you selling and consuming?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9220746821436534, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was my father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was making decision on the type of food to be prepared at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was responsible to provide food for our family and my mother used to tell my father when the food got finished so that he can buy so every decision was from my father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me earlier that your parents were farmers so I would like to know what amount of food were you selling and consuming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is it nowadays or in the past?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the past."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0245274246040594, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was responsible to provide food for our family and my mother used to tell my father when the food got finished so that he can buy so every decision was from my father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me earlier that your parents were farmers so I would like to know what amount of food were you selling and consuming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is it nowadays or in the past?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the past."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our fathers used to farm only half an acre and whatever they have harvested they sell half and keep half for consumption."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how were they using the money received from sale of food and who had the final decision on to spend the money."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1383638051156215, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is it nowadays or in the past?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the past."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our fathers used to farm only half an acre and whatever they have harvested they sell half and keep half for consumption."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how were they using the money received from sale of food and who had the final decision on to spend the money."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was a decision maker, he used to direct my mother on how the money will be spent like this amount of money is for food or clothes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was involved in the decision making process?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2648486723506907, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our fathers used to farm only half an acre and whatever they have harvested they sell half and keep half for consumption."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how were they using the money received from sale of food and who had the final decision on to spend the money."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was a decision maker, he used to direct my mother on how the money will be spent like this amount of money is for food or clothes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was involved in the decision making process?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My Mother because she is the one who knows the needs of the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother what about you, who used to make decisions on the type of food to be bought?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4053874137229896, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was a decision maker, he used to direct my mother on how the money will be spent like this amount of money is for food or clothes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was involved in the decision making process?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My Mother because she is the one who knows the needs of the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother what about you, who used to make decisions on the type of food to be bought?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was my mother, but she used to tell my father that we do not have this and that so my father will give her money to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who used to budget in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5615415708033218, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My Mother because she is the one who knows the needs of the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother what about you, who used to make decisions on the type of food to be bought?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was my mother, but she used to tell my father that we do not have this and that so my father will give her money to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who used to budget in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was a decision maker."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you children were you involved in any way?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7350461897814686, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was my mother, but she used to tell my father that we do not have this and that so my father will give her money to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who used to budget in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was a decision maker."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you children were you involved in any way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we were not involved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father when you were growing up how did you know this child has grown up or what were the indication like or what did you see and came up with the conclusion that this is no longer a boy or girl he is a full grown man?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9278290997571874, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was a decision maker."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you children were you involved in any way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we were not involved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father when you were growing up how did you know this child has grown up or what were the indication like or what did you see and came up with the conclusion that this is no longer a boy or girl he is a full grown man?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We say a boy has grown into adulthood when he reaches puberty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did you know that you had reached puberty?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1420323330635416, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we were not involved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father when you were growing up how did you know this child has grown up or what were the indication like or what did you see and came up with the conclusion that this is no longer a boy or girl he is a full grown man?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We say a boy has grown into adulthood when he reaches puberty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did you know that you had reached puberty?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will know because you will see the body changes and there are some things you will be able to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what happened after realizing that you are a grown up person? Was there any celebration?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.3800359256261574, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We say a boy has grown into adulthood when he reaches puberty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did you know that you had reached puberty?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will know because you will see the body changes and there are some things you will be able to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what happened after realizing that you are a grown up person? Was there any celebration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there were ceremony to symbolize that as well as when a boy is circumcised."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At what age were boys circumcised?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5333732506957307, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will know because you will see the body changes and there are some things you will be able to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what happened after realizing that you are a grown up person? Was there any celebration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there were ceremony to symbolize that as well as when a boy is circumcised."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At what age were boys circumcised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they were seven years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So a boy of seven years you call them a grown up person?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5926369452174786, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there were ceremony to symbolize that as well as when a boy is circumcised."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At what age were boys circumcised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they were seven years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So a boy of seven years you call them a grown up person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it is not like that after circumcision he stays for another seven years until he is sexually matured and that is when he reaches puberty so from there he can also marry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and what about a female child? ##P478# #\tWhen she reaches a certain age I think 15 years and her breast start to develop and also other things women knows.\n\nYour wife told me she came to Kibaya village like 30 years ago what about you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6584854946860873, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they were seven years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So a boy of seven years you call them a grown up person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it is not like that after circumcision he stays for another seven years until he is sexually matured and that is when he reaches puberty so from there he can also marry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and what about a female child? ##P478# #\tWhen she reaches a certain age I think 15 years and her breast start to develop and also other things women knows.\n\nYour wife told me she came to Kibaya village like 30 years ago what about you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is the same time or even more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who else are you living with in your household for now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7316505496512081, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it is not like that after circumcision he stays for another seven years until he is sexually matured and that is when he reaches puberty so from there he can also marry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and what about a female child? ##P478# #\tWhen she reaches a certain age I think 15 years and her breast start to develop and also other things women knows.\n\nYour wife told me she came to Kibaya village like 30 years ago what about you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is the same time or even more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who else are you living with in your household for now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My wife, my father, children and grandchildren."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you living with your mother in law or uncles aunties?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.812945055168009, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is the same time or even more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who else are you living with in your household for now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My wife, my father, children and grandchildren."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you living with your mother in law or uncles aunties?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No the one you asked me earlier are the ones I am living with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father I would like to know what activities your family is doing to earn a living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.90327228352001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My wife, my father, children and grandchildren."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you living with your mother in law or uncles aunties?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No the one you asked me earlier are the ones I am living with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father I would like to know what activities your family is doing to earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are farmers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is your family structure different to your parent’s family structure?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0036358705777888, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No the one you asked me earlier are the ones I am living with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father I would like to know what activities your family is doing to earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are farmers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is your family structure different to your parent’s family structure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past I used to depend on my parents but nowadays I am the one who is providing for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how is it different? Because you told me earlier your parents used to farm and also rear animals and it is the same to you so my question is there difference in the way life was before and now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.004039856197543142, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are farmers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is your family structure different to your parent’s family structure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past I used to depend on my parents but nowadays I am the one who is providing for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how is it different? Because you told me earlier your parents used to farm and also rear animals and it is the same to you so my question is there difference in the way life was before and now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there is difference because like this year our cows and goats died because of drought and I got sick so a lot of things happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why nowadays there are a lot of changes cows are dying why all this is happening now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.004488729108381269, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past I used to depend on my parents but nowadays I am the one who is providing for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how is it different? Because you told me earlier your parents used to farm and also rear animals and it is the same to you so my question is there difference in the way life was before and now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there is difference because like this year our cows and goats died because of drought and I got sick so a lot of things happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why nowadays there are a lot of changes cows are dying why all this is happening now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to have doctors around the village and they were providing us with medicine for both human beings and animals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affecting you and your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0049874767870902986, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there is difference because like this year our cows and goats died because of drought and I got sick so a lot of things happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why nowadays there are a lot of changes cows are dying why all this is happening now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to have doctors around the village and they were providing us with medicine for both human beings and animals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affecting you and your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are affected because you do not have money to buy medicine and sometimes back we used to sell our cows or goat and buy medicine but nowadays we cannot do that because we do not even have goat to sell so our family and myself are affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the duties and responsibilities of men and women in your household starting with men?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0055416408745447765, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to have doctors around the village and they were providing us with medicine for both human beings and animals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affecting you and your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are affected because you do not have money to buy medicine and sometimes back we used to sell our cows or goat and buy medicine but nowadays we cannot do that because we do not even have goat to sell so our family and myself are affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the duties and responsibilities of men and women in your household starting with men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is mainly farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which season is this?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.006157378749494196, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are affected because you do not have money to buy medicine and sometimes back we used to sell our cows or goat and buy medicine but nowadays we cannot do that because we do not even have goat to sell so our family and myself are affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the duties and responsibilities of men and women in your household starting with men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is mainly farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which season is this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is short rain season, so now people are planting maize and cowpeas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from farming what else men in your household do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.00684153194388244, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is mainly farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which season is this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is short rain season, so now people are planting maize and cowpeas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from farming what else men in your household do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are not doing anything else apart from farming"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about women what are their main duties?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.007601702159869377, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is short rain season, so now people are planting maize and cowpeas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from farming what else men in your household do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are not doing anything else apart from farming"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about women what are their main duties?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They cook for the family, fetching water, fetching firewood and washing dishes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the past when you were living with your parents what were the duties and responsibilities of men?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.008446335733188197, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are not doing anything else apart from farming"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about women what are their main duties?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They cook for the family, fetching water, fetching firewood and washing dishes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the past when you were living with your parents what were the duties and responsibilities of men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was a farmer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from farming what else was he doing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.009384817481320218, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They cook for the family, fetching water, fetching firewood and washing dishes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the past when you were living with your parents what were the duties and responsibilities of men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was a farmer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from farming what else was he doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was buying and selling cattle’s."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, you told me that your father was a farmer and a cattle vendor and your main activities is farming and you also rear livestock so why do you think there is a lifestyle changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.010427574979244687, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father was a farmer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from farming what else was he doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was buying and selling cattle’s."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, you told me that your father was a farmer and a cattle vendor and your main activities is farming and you also rear livestock so why do you think there is a lifestyle changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays life has become difficult our current government has made things difficult so if you try farming you cannot sell your produce because people do not have money so life has been very difficult for us because our livestock have died due to drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how has these changes affected you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.011586194421382985, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was buying and selling cattle’s."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, you told me that your father was a farmer and a cattle vendor and your main activities is farming and you also rear livestock so why do you think there is a lifestyle changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays life has become difficult our current government has made things difficult so if you try farming you cannot sell your produce because people do not have money so life has been very difficult for us because our livestock have died due to drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how has these changes affected you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we have been affected because we do have money and you know money is everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the responsibilities of male child in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.012873549357092205, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays life has become difficult our current government has made things difficult so if you try farming you cannot sell your produce because people do not have money so life has been very difficult for us because our livestock have died due to drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how has these changes affected you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we have been affected because we do have money and you know money is everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the responsibilities of male child in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their responsibilities is to work and earn a living but it is difficult to do that nowadays because our government has made life very difficult for us so I have to assist my children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how were your responsibilities when you were living with your parents?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.014303943730102449, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we have been affected because we do have money and you know money is everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the responsibilities of male child in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their responsibilities is to work and earn a living but it is difficult to do that nowadays because our government has made life very difficult for us so I have to assist my children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how were your responsibilities when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I used to depend on my father because I did not have children but now I have children so I have more responsibilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean what were your duties as a male child at home, example Maasai male child were involved in grazing the livestock so what about you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.015893270811224942, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their responsibilities is to work and earn a living but it is difficult to do that nowadays because our government has made life very difficult for us so I have to assist my children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how were your responsibilities when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I used to depend on my father because I did not have children but now I have children so I have more responsibilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean what were your duties as a male child at home, example Maasai male child were involved in grazing the livestock so what about you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, we were farming and that is our main duty and if you have cattle’s then a male child is supposed to graze them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the duties of a female child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.017659189790249934, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I used to depend on my father because I did not have children but now I have children so I have more responsibilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean what were your duties as a male child at home, example Maasai male child were involved in grazing the livestock so what about you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, we were farming and that is our main duty and if you have cattle’s then a male child is supposed to graze them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the duties of a female child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cooking and fetching wild vegetables like hare lettuce, basically they were helping their mothers in whatever they were doing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about nowadays what the duties of a female child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.019621321989166593, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, we were farming and that is our main duty and if you have cattle’s then a male child is supposed to graze them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the duties of a female child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cooking and fetching wild vegetables like hare lettuce, basically they were helping their mothers in whatever they were doing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about nowadays what the duties of a female child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fetching water, fetching firewood, going to the milling machine to grind maize, cooking food for the family, and also farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we were here early this year we were told that people have changed their eating lifestyle the no longer eating the traditional food nowadays they are eating fish, chicken, chips, eggs especially Masaai’s I do not know if you Zigua have changed you eating lifestyle and also your method of cooking have also changed nowadays you fry food unlike before you were boiling food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.02180146887685177, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cooking and fetching wild vegetables like hare lettuce, basically they were helping their mothers in whatever they were doing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about nowadays what the duties of a female child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fetching water, fetching firewood, going to the milling machine to grind maize, cooking food for the family, and also farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we were here early this year we were told that people have changed their eating lifestyle the no longer eating the traditional food nowadays they are eating fish, chicken, chips, eggs especially Masaai’s I do not know if you Zigua have changed you eating lifestyle and also your method of cooking have also changed nowadays you fry food unlike before you were boiling food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are eating the same ugali and wild vegetables as we used to eat in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the men eating lifestyle changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.024223854307613077, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fetching water, fetching firewood, going to the milling machine to grind maize, cooking food for the family, and also farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we were here early this year we were told that people have changed their eating lifestyle the no longer eating the traditional food nowadays they are eating fish, chicken, chips, eggs especially Masaai’s I do not know if you Zigua have changed you eating lifestyle and also your method of cooking have also changed nowadays you fry food unlike before you were boiling food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are eating the same ugali and wild vegetables as we used to eat in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the men eating lifestyle changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes our eating lifestyle has changed nowadays we are using cooking oil which we do not know how it is made off, sugar, sodas they are affecting our stomach."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is this cooking oil affecting you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.02691539367512564, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are eating the same ugali and wild vegetables as we used to eat in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the men eating lifestyle changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes our eating lifestyle has changed nowadays we are using cooking oil which we do not know how it is made off, sugar, sodas they are affecting our stomach."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is this cooking oil affecting you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is affecting our stomach; our stomach is used to our traditional cooking oil such as coconut oil"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about women eating lifestyle do you think it has changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.02990599297236182, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes our eating lifestyle has changed nowadays we are using cooking oil which we do not know how it is made off, sugar, sodas they are affecting our stomach."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is this cooking oil affecting you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is affecting our stomach; our stomach is used to our traditional cooking oil such as coconut oil"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about women eating lifestyle do you think it has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Women are the ones preparing these foods we are eating and nowadays they must put oil in the vegetables, meat and beans, and the kind of cooking oil they are using is affecting our stomach."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think has changed the eating lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.03322888108040202, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is affecting our stomach; our stomach is used to our traditional cooking oil such as coconut oil"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about women eating lifestyle do you think it has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Women are the ones preparing these foods we are eating and nowadays they must put oil in the vegetables, meat and beans, and the kind of cooking oil they are using is affecting our stomach."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think has changed the eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because nowadays people have developed and they do not want to plant pumpkin, oyster nut and cucumber they want sophisticated things and that is why we are affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you say people have developed what do you mean?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.03692097897822447, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Women are the ones preparing these foods we are eating and nowadays they must put oil in the vegetables, meat and beans, and the kind of cooking oil they are using is affecting our stomach."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think has changed the eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because nowadays people have developed and they do not want to plant pumpkin, oyster nut and cucumber they want sophisticated things and that is why we are affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you say people have developed what do you mean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean people who used the local oil like oyster nuts have died."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think price of food has changed your eating lifestyle if you were to compare in the past and nowadays? For example are oyster nuts available in the market and what the price is?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.041023309975804965, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because nowadays people have developed and they do not want to plant pumpkin, oyster nut and cucumber they want sophisticated things and that is why we are affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you say people have developed what do you mean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean people who used the local oil like oyster nuts have died."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think price of food has changed your eating lifestyle if you were to compare in the past and nowadays? For example are oyster nuts available in the market and what the price is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oyster nuts are not available in the market nowadays and that is why we are now buying cooking oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about interaction with other tribes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.04558145552867218, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean people who used the local oil like oyster nuts have died."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think price of food has changed your eating lifestyle if you were to compare in the past and nowadays? For example are oyster nuts available in the market and what the price is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oyster nuts are not available in the market nowadays and that is why we are now buying cooking oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about interaction with other tribes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes in the past we used to eat ugali with wild vegetables but now we are eating rice, ugali with different king of meat, bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the reasons for these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.05064606169852465, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oyster nuts are not available in the market nowadays and that is why we are now buying cooking oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about interaction with other tribes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes in the past we used to eat ugali with wild vegetables but now we are eating rice, ugali with different king of meat, bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the reasons for these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because people have developed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the perception that certain foods are associated with poverty"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.05627340188724961, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes in the past we used to eat ugali with wild vegetables but now we are eating rice, ugali with different king of meat, bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the reasons for these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because people have developed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the perception that certain foods are associated with poverty"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you eat ugali with meat you will be happy so chances of you getting diseases are minimal unlike people who eat ugali with wild vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you told me of five reasons that contributed to the change in the eating lifestyle one is availability of food, people have developed so they stop eating local food, another reason is people who used oyster nut have died and it is like they have died with their oyster nuts because it is no longer available in the markets, another reason is people nowadays are enlightened and lastly people associate certain food with poverty so which is the first reasons that made changes in the eating lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.062526002096944, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because people have developed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the perception that certain foods are associated with poverty"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you eat ugali with meat you will be happy so chances of you getting diseases are minimal unlike people who eat ugali with wild vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you told me of five reasons that contributed to the change in the eating lifestyle one is availability of food, people have developed so they stop eating local food, another reason is people who used oyster nut have died and it is like they have died with their oyster nuts because it is no longer available in the markets, another reason is people nowadays are enlightened and lastly people associate certain food with poverty so which is the first reasons that made changes in the eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first reason is the availability of food,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the second reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.06947333566327112, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you eat ugali with meat you will be happy so chances of you getting diseases are minimal unlike people who eat ugali with wild vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you told me of five reasons that contributed to the change in the eating lifestyle one is availability of food, people have developed so they stop eating local food, another reason is people who used oyster nut have died and it is like they have died with their oyster nuts because it is no longer available in the markets, another reason is people nowadays are enlightened and lastly people associate certain food with poverty so which is the first reasons that made changes in the eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first reason is the availability of food,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the second reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People have developed; they do not want to eat the local food they use the new technology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the third reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07719259518141235, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first reason is the availability of food,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the second reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People have developed; they do not want to eat the local food they use the new technology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the third reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are afraid to eat food that is associated with poverty,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, what are the effects of these changes to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.08576955020156928, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People have developed; they do not want to eat the local food they use the new technology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the third reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are afraid to eat food that is associated with poverty,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, what are the effects of these changes to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My problem is with cooking oil when I eat I get sick so I avoid them completely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about other family members in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.09529950022396586, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are afraid to eat food that is associated with poverty,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, what are the effects of these changes to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My problem is with cooking oil when I eat I get sick so I avoid them completely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about other family members in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not affected by these new changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your fellow Zigua are they affected by these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.10588833358218427, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My problem is with cooking oil when I eat I get sick so I avoid them completely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about other family members in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not affected by these new changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your fellow Zigua are they affected by these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know nowadays we have these new cooking oils and most of the people are using them because we do not have options."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it affecting them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.11765370398020475, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not affected by these new changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your fellow Zigua are they affected by these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know nowadays we have these new cooking oils and most of the people are using them because we do not have options."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it affecting them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think it is affecting them because they are not complaining it is only me in my family who if affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, I would like us to talk about milk, do you think milk is important to you and your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13072633775578305, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know nowadays we have these new cooking oils and most of the people are using them because we do not have options."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it affecting them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think it is affecting them because they are not complaining it is only me in my family who if affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, I would like us to talk about milk, do you think milk is important to you and your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, milk is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it important?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1452514863953145, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think it is affecting them because they are not complaining it is only me in my family who if affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, I would like us to talk about milk, do you think milk is important to you and your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, milk is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because it helps increase your blood level, when you are sick you need milk, infants need milk especial when a mother is not able to breastfeed,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your family is milk important?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1613905404392383, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, milk is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because it helps increase your blood level, when you are sick you need milk, infants need milk especial when a mother is not able to breastfeed,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your family is milk important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes it is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me how milk is important to your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.17932282271026478, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because it helps increase your blood level, when you are sick you need milk, infants need milk especial when a mother is not able to breastfeed,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your family is milk important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes it is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me how milk is important to your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can drink milk and also use fermented milk as relish you can give to a sick person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about using milk as source of income or you are not selling milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1992475807891831, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes it is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me how milk is important to your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can drink milk and also use fermented milk as relish you can give to a sick person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about using milk as source of income or you are not selling milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we are not selling milk because we only have one cow so it is not enough for our consumption and selling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is milk important in according to your traditions?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.24598466764096674, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we are not selling milk because we only have one cow so it is not enough for our consumption and selling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is milk important in according to your traditions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because milk gives you energy and also it increases your blood levels."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is milk important in the preparation of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.27331629737885194, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because milk gives you energy and also it increases your blood levels."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is milk important in the preparation of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is important to your body when you boil and drink but not otherwise"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, do you think milk is very important or just important?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.303684774865391, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because milk gives you energy and also it increases your blood levels."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is milk important in the preparation of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is important to your body when you boil and drink but not otherwise"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, do you think milk is very important or just important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is very important to our body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was milk important if you were to compare now and when you were young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.33742752762821226, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is important to your body when you boil and drink but not otherwise"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, do you think milk is very important or just important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is very important to our body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was milk important if you were to compare now and when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk has always been important regardless when your age. In the past my father used to have 150 cows so milk was in plenty but nowadays we do not get enough milk because our cows have died so we have remained with only 2 cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why cattle are dying?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.37491947514245805, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is very important to our body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was milk important if you were to compare now and when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk has always been important regardless when your age. In the past my father used to have 150 cows so milk was in plenty but nowadays we do not get enough milk because our cows have died so we have remained with only 2 cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why cattle are dying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because there is no medicine like in the past and our doctors are also not reliable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why cattle’s are not many nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4165771946027311, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk has always been important regardless when your age. In the past my father used to have 150 cows so milk was in plenty but nowadays we do not get enough milk because our cows have died so we have remained with only 2 cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why cattle are dying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because there is no medicine like in the past and our doctors are also not reliable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why cattle’s are not many nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I told you cattle’s are dying because there is no medicine to treat our cows whenever they are sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the other reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.46286354955859016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because there is no medicine like in the past and our doctors are also not reliable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why cattle’s are not many nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I told you cattle’s are dying because there is no medicine to treat our cows whenever they are sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the other reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought, and also people are farming nowadays so there are fewer places for grazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about land conflicts do you thing is the reason for shortage of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.514292832842878, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I told you cattle’s are dying because there is no medicine to treat our cows whenever they are sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the other reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought, and also people are farming nowadays so there are fewer places for grazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about land conflicts do you thing is the reason for shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, conflict is not affecting us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about lifestyle changes, meaning people now are farming or doing business instead of rearing animals don’t you think it has contributed to the shortage of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5714364809365311, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought, and also people are farming nowadays so there are fewer places for grazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about land conflicts do you thing is the reason for shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, conflict is not affecting us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about lifestyle changes, meaning people now are farming or doing business instead of rearing animals don’t you think it has contributed to the shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true that nowadays people are more into farming other than livestock rearing even our presidents and doctors are farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father you told me the reasons that contribute to the unavailability of milk is medicine, then drought also nowadays people depend on farming more that livestock rearing so which is the major reason for this change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6349294232628123, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, conflict is not affecting us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about lifestyle changes, meaning people now are farming or doing business instead of rearing animals don’t you think it has contributed to the shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true that nowadays people are more into farming other than livestock rearing even our presidents and doctors are farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father you told me the reasons that contribute to the unavailability of milk is medicine, then drought also nowadays people depend on farming more that livestock rearing so which is the major reason for this change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The major reason is unavailability of medicine for our livestock"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the second reason for unavailability of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7054771369586803, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true that nowadays people are more into farming other than livestock rearing even our presidents and doctors are farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father you told me the reasons that contribute to the unavailability of milk is medicine, then drought also nowadays people depend on farming more that livestock rearing so which is the major reason for this change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The major reason is unavailability of medicine for our livestock"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the second reason for unavailability of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought, like this year we were affected by drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father I would like us to talk about the purchase of food, who normally buy food in your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7838634855096448, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The major reason is unavailability of medicine for our livestock"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the second reason for unavailability of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought, like this year we were affected by drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father I would like us to talk about the purchase of food, who normally buy food in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, we have milk so we only buy vegetables, beans, cowpeas, meat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is making decision on food expenditure?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8709594283440497, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought, like this year we were affected by drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father I would like us to talk about the purchase of food, who normally buy food in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, we have milk so we only buy vegetables, beans, cowpeas, meat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is making decision on food expenditure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is my wife because she knows what we have and what we do not have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who facilitates her?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9677326981600552, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, we have milk so we only buy vegetables, beans, cowpeas, meat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is making decision on food expenditure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is my wife because she knows what we have and what we do not have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who facilitates her?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were growing up who used to go and buy food in the market?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0752585535111725, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is my wife because she knows what we have and what we do not have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who facilitates her?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were growing up who used to go and buy food in the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was my father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And nowadays who is going to buy food in the market?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1947317261235249, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were growing up who used to go and buy food in the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was my father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And nowadays who is going to buy food in the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me, but sometimes I send my son to the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is doing food budget?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3274796956928054, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was my father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And nowadays who is going to buy food in the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me, but sometimes I send my son to the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is doing food budget?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The distance from your place to the market and the distance from your parents place to the market which one is far?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4749774396586728, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me, but sometimes I send my son to the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is doing food budget?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The distance from your place to the market and the distance from your parents place to the market which one is far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My parents to the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, is there food that was available in the past but it is no longer available nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6388638218429696, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The distance from your place to the market and the distance from your parents place to the market which one is far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My parents to the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, is there food that was available in the past but it is no longer available nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which one?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.820959802047744, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My parents to the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, is there food that was available in the past but it is no longer available nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oyster nuts, millet, pumpkin, and cucumber."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, which kind of food do you prepare most in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.023288668941938, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oyster nuts, millet, pumpkin, and cucumber."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, which kind of food do you prepare most in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "African eggplant, cowpeas, potatoes, beans, green grams."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are eating with what?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2480985210465976, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oyster nuts, millet, pumpkin, and cucumber."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, which kind of food do you prepare most in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "African eggplant, cowpeas, potatoes, beans, green grams."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are eating with what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali and also rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes or influence you to cook the food you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3867761344962195, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "African eggplant, cowpeas, potatoes, beans, green grams."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are eating with what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali and also rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes or influence you to cook the food you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cook beans, cowpeas, potatoes, African eggplant in alternative days because they do not want to eat vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who does not want to eat vegetable?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.540862371662466, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali and also rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes or influence you to cook the food you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cook beans, cowpeas, potatoes, African eggplant in alternative days because they do not want to eat vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who does not want to eat vegetable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Your grandfather (The husband)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the choices and preferences what else influence you to cook what you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7120693018471844, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cook beans, cowpeas, potatoes, African eggplant in alternative days because they do not want to eat vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who does not want to eat vegetable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Your grandfather (The husband)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the choices and preferences what else influence you to cook what you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only him who influences me to cook what I cook because if you do not cook what he wants then he will not eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the availability of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9022992242746493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Your grandfather (The husband)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the choices and preferences what else influence you to cook what you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only him who influences me to cook what I cook because if you do not cook what he wants then he will not eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the availability of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because he is saying his stomach is paining when he eats a certain food so we normally cook what he wants."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of firewood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.11366580474961, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only him who influences me to cook what I cook because if you do not cook what he wants then he will not eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the availability of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because he is saying his stomach is paining when he eats a certain food so we normally cook what he wants."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of firewood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, if I do not have enough firewood I cook rice because we source firewood very far from here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me the reasons why you cook the food you cook in choices and preferences of the members of your family and also availability of food and also firewood so which among the three is the major reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3485175608329003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because he is saying his stomach is paining when he eats a certain food so we normally cook what he wants."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of firewood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, if I do not have enough firewood I cook rice because we source firewood very far from here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me the reasons why you cook the food you cook in choices and preferences of the members of your family and also availability of food and also firewood so which among the three is the major reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Choices and preferences of my family members"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, when you were young did you ever experience shortage of food in your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6094639564810005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, if I do not have enough firewood I cook rice because we source firewood very far from here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me the reasons why you cook the food you cook in choices and preferences of the members of your family and also availability of food and also firewood so which among the three is the major reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Choices and preferences of my family members"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, when you were young did you ever experience shortage of food in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we were eating, food was there in plenty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about nowadays have you ever experience food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8994043960900004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Choices and preferences of my family members"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, when you were young did you ever experience shortage of food in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we were eating, food was there in plenty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about nowadays have you ever experience food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we experienced food shortage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:257", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.468400489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we experienced food shortage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Recently."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.74266721, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Recently."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because people did not harvest maize because of drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long did it last?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:261", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9362969, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because people did not harvest maize because of drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long did it last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like two months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did your family overcame the situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:263", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.151441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because people did not harvest maize because of drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long did it last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like two months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did your family overcame the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We bought food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you get money to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:265", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like two months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did your family overcame the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We bought food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you get money to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My children used to do casual work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about selling of livestock so that you can get money to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:267", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.6561000000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We bought food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you get money to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My children used to do casual work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about selling of livestock so that you can get money to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sold them but they were few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times were you eating per day during the hunger period?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:269", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My children used to do casual work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about selling of livestock so that you can get money to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sold them but they were few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times were you eating per day during the hunger period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating twice per day, in the morning we used to drink porridge and eat ugali at around 12 noon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were eating twice per day?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:271", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sold them but they were few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times were you eating per day during the hunger period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating twice per day, in the morning we used to drink porridge and eat ugali at around 12 noon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were eating twice per day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was your portions like, did you eat small portion or?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:273", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating twice per day, in the morning we used to drink porridge and eat ugali at around 12 noon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were eating twice per day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was your portions like, did you eat small portion or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating small portions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was mostly affected by hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:275", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was your portions like, did you eat small portion or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating small portions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was mostly affected by hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That boy was affected most because he was sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, I would like to know where do you learn or get information about nutrition and health lifestyle."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:277", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating small portions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was mostly affected by hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That boy was affected most because he was sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, I would like to know where do you learn or get information about nutrition and health lifestyle."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here at home and also people from the Misima community office and also health officers normally come and teach us about health, sanitation and hygiene, and also nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think nutrition and health education is important to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That boy was affected most because he was sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Father, I would like to know where do you learn or get information about nutrition and health lifestyle."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here at home and also people from the Misima community office and also health officers normally come and teach us about health, sanitation and hygiene, and also nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think nutrition and health education is important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About food and nutrition we have the knowledge but health issues we learn from health officer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how and where did you learn about food and nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:281", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here at home and also people from the Misima community office and also health officers normally come and teach us about health, sanitation and hygiene, and also nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think nutrition and health education is important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About food and nutrition we have the knowledge but health issues we learn from health officer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how and where did you learn about food and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We learnt from our fore fathers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you want to tell me you have not received food and nutrition education in your household and also the entire Misima Village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:283", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "About food and nutrition we have the knowledge but health issues we learn from health officer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how and where did you learn about food and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We learnt from our fore fathers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you want to tell me you have not received food and nutrition education in your household and also the entire Misima Village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we have not heard about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think this education will help you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:285", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We learnt from our fore fathers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you want to tell me you have not received food and nutrition education in your household and also the entire Misima Village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we have not heard about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think this education will help you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it will help us because we get food, and also we will be healthy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you want us to bring food, nutrition and health education to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:287", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we have not heard about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think this education will help you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it will help us because we get food, and also we will be healthy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you want us to bring food, nutrition and health education to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know how best you can bring this education to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is your suggestion?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:289", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it will help us because we get food, and also we will be healthy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you want us to bring food, nutrition and health education to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know how best you can bring this education to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is your suggestion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think through our groups."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about through schools, maybe we teach your children so that they can teach you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:291", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know how best you can bring this education to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is your suggestion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think through our groups."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about through schools, maybe we teach your children so that they can teach you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is okay but I do not have a child who is going to school so it will be difficult for me to get information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about churches and mosques?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:293", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think through our groups."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about through schools, maybe we teach your children so that they can teach you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is okay but I do not have a child who is going to school so it will be difficult for me to get information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about churches and mosques?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we will get information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about health centres, do you think you will get information"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:295", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is okay but I do not have a child who is going to school so it will be difficult for me to get information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about churches and mosques?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we will get information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about health centres, do you think you will get information"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm, I do not think it will reach us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about through radios and televisions?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00027:297", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we will get information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about health centres, do you think you will get information"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm, I do not think it will reach us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about through radios and televisions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We will hear them but will not eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who do you think is the right person to disseminate the information?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5022570087691854, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mindset of my boss"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if your organizational change project could be perceived as a story… Who was the protagonist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Talent development team lead by me. So can be me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the antagonist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The old fashion system"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What inciting moment motivated the protagonist to start the journey (the what if…)?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5580633430768727, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Talent development team lead by me. So can be me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the antagonist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The old fashion system"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What inciting moment motivated the protagonist to start the journey (the what if…)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The program as it was designed and run was not having the expected results, was seeing as no impactful and organization wanted to change it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the biggest conflict?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6200703811965251, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The old fashion system"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What inciting moment motivated the protagonist to start the journey (the what if…)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The program as it was designed and run was not having the expected results, was seeing as no impactful and organization wanted to change it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the biggest conflict?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Conflict with superior (my boss)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the genre of this story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6889670902183612, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The program as it was designed and run was not having the expected results, was seeing as no impactful and organization wanted to change it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the biggest conflict?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Conflict with superior (my boss)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the genre of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tragicomedy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the moral of this story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7655189891315124, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Conflict with superior (my boss)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the genre of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tragicomedy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the moral of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Change can happen despite the person in power"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the dark inversion of this story (good gone bad, or bad gone good)?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8505766545905693, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tragicomedy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the moral of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Change can happen despite the person in power"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the dark inversion of this story (good gone bad, or bad gone good)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Loss of common sense, due to high pride not being able to see the reality"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your most frequently used metaphor?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9450851717672992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Change can happen despite the person in power"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the dark inversion of this story (good gone bad, or bad gone good)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Loss of common sense, due to high pride not being able to see the reality"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your most frequently used metaphor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for this situation? If you cannot open the door, find window(s)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your biggest revelation?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.050094635296999, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Loss of common sense, due to high pride not being able to see the reality"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your most frequently used metaphor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for this situation? If you cannot open the door, find window(s)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your biggest revelation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Personal agendas are more important that organizational impact"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an anecdote which demonstrates how change recipients were behaving when they had no knowledge of the upcoming organizational change."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.1667718169966657, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "for this situation? If you cannot open the door, find window(s)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your biggest revelation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Personal agendas are more important that organizational impact"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an anecdote which demonstrates how change recipients were behaving when they had no knowledge of the upcoming organizational change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well you could think of a traditional post-transition rich corporation where people have big offices and everyone enjoys their workday as an excuse for being paid to socialize. A lot of these people weren’t capable of doing much work at a high level anyway…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how the knowledge of organizational change was initially started?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1853020188851842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Personal agendas are more important that organizational impact"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an anecdote which demonstrates how change recipients were behaving when they had no knowledge of the upcoming organizational change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well you could think of a traditional post-transition rich corporation where people have big offices and everyone enjoys their workday as an excuse for being paid to socialize. A lot of these people weren’t capable of doing much work at a high level anyway…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how the knowledge of organizational change was initially started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I joined, there were few Talent development programs graduate entries, and leaders on different level. I was told that all the programs could be changed, improved, to feel free to learn and explore and propose improvements. That is what I did with the one that I learned from the organization that was the weakest one - Graduate program. It was designed centrally, local units were struggling to implement it in the steps that were required and not at all able to reach the targets that they were supposed to (retention, promotion). Following initial screening and interviews with HRMs in the countries, and my TD team, I started to work on the flexible solution for graduate program as the highest priority. My boss was declaring herself as being very supportive of adaptation and change, therefore I wanted to create the few proposals before involving her more into the process. That was a mistake - the declarative openness to change was not real. She “called out” on me on a Talent team meeting, saying that she heard we are changing the graduate program and to present what we are doing. I presented draft version of few options, and there the difficult situation happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you articulate the “awakening” moment where the organizational change was formally initiated?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2058911320946491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well you could think of a traditional post-transition rich corporation where people have big offices and everyone enjoys their workday as an excuse for being paid to socialize. A lot of these people weren’t capable of doing much work at a high level anyway…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how the knowledge of organizational change was initially started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I joined, there were few Talent development programs graduate entries, and leaders on different level. I was told that all the programs could be changed, improved, to feel free to learn and explore and propose improvements. That is what I did with the one that I learned from the organization that was the weakest one - Graduate program. It was designed centrally, local units were struggling to implement it in the steps that were required and not at all able to reach the targets that they were supposed to (retention, promotion). Following initial screening and interviews with HRMs in the countries, and my TD team, I started to work on the flexible solution for graduate program as the highest priority. My boss was declaring herself as being very supportive of adaptation and change, therefore I wanted to create the few proposals before involving her more into the process. That was a mistake - the declarative openness to change was not real. She “called out” on me on a Talent team meeting, saying that she heard we are changing the graduate program and to present what we are doing. I presented draft version of few options, and there the difficult situation happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you articulate the “awakening” moment where the organizational change was formally initiated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was a regular team meeting when the superior (she knew about what we do because of internal gossiping systems) asked what we were doing on the topic, what was going on. I started to talk about how we plan to improve it, while her idea was to check if we started activities as they have been designed originally (by her)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did change recipients express doubt towards the change project?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22876792454961012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I joined, there were few Talent development programs graduate entries, and leaders on different level. I was told that all the programs could be changed, improved, to feel free to learn and explore and propose improvements. That is what I did with the one that I learned from the organization that was the weakest one - Graduate program. It was designed centrally, local units were struggling to implement it in the steps that were required and not at all able to reach the targets that they were supposed to (retention, promotion). Following initial screening and interviews with HRMs in the countries, and my TD team, I started to work on the flexible solution for graduate program as the highest priority. My boss was declaring herself as being very supportive of adaptation and change, therefore I wanted to create the few proposals before involving her more into the process. That was a mistake - the declarative openness to change was not real. She “called out” on me on a Talent team meeting, saying that she heard we are changing the graduate program and to present what we are doing. I presented draft version of few options, and there the difficult situation happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you articulate the “awakening” moment where the organizational change was formally initiated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was a regular team meeting when the superior (she knew about what we do because of internal gossiping systems) asked what we were doing on the topic, what was going on. I started to talk about how we plan to improve it, while her idea was to check if we started activities as they have been designed originally (by her)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did change recipients express doubt towards the change project?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aggressively. When ideas were presented how to change the program, and offer few options, the superior went completely crazy. My superior was aggressive - I remain with that. Aggressive in her approach to me and later when we had another meeting to my team member as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how you addressed this challenge?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25418658283290013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was a regular team meeting when the superior (she knew about what we do because of internal gossiping systems) asked what we were doing on the topic, what was going on. I started to talk about how we plan to improve it, while her idea was to check if we started activities as they have been designed originally (by her)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did change recipients express doubt towards the change project?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aggressively. When ideas were presented how to change the program, and offer few options, the superior went completely crazy. My superior was aggressive - I remain with that. Aggressive in her approach to me and later when we had another meeting to my team member as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how you addressed this challenge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Naively, I was enthusiastic that we would be improving"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an example of growing reluctance to accept the change."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28242953648100017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aggressively. When ideas were presented how to change the program, and offer few options, the superior went completely crazy. My superior was aggressive - I remain with that. Aggressive in her approach to me and later when we had another meeting to my team member as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how you addressed this challenge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Naively, I was enthusiastic that we would be improving"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an example of growing reluctance to accept the change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here it could be the fact that she continued to be aggressive on the meeting with my team members, calling out my team member “how come you give up on our program”. After that, noone wanted to talk anything to change from my team members, as they didnt want to get into that kind of conversation with my superior."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was challenging you the most?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.31381059609000017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Naively, I was enthusiastic that we would be improving"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an example of growing reluctance to accept the change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here it could be the fact that she continued to be aggressive on the meeting with my team members, calling out my team member “how come you give up on our program”. After that, noone wanted to talk anything to change from my team members, as they didnt want to get into that kind of conversation with my superior."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was challenging you the most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My superior."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve “acceptance”?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34867844010000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here it could be the fact that she continued to be aggressive on the meeting with my team members, calling out my team member “how come you give up on our program”. After that, noone wanted to talk anything to change from my team members, as they didnt want to get into that kind of conversation with my superior."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was challenging you the most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My superior."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve “acceptance”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t. I pulled back shocked by the behavior. I went back to the team and we decided to conduct wider research on the satisfaction with this program in the organization, beyond the initial information we had from our internal stakeholders. We made thorough analyses and written proposal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to change recipients?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38742048900000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My superior."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve “acceptance”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t. I pulled back shocked by the behavior. I went back to the team and we decided to conduct wider research on the satisfaction with this program in the organization, beyond the initial information we had from our internal stakeholders. We made thorough analyses and written proposal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the end, I haven’t communicated the whole scope of change, but focused that what we want to do is smaller adjustments. Than the ego was satisfied and we were supported to go ahead."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how change recipients experimented with available knowledge after accepting change?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t. I pulled back shocked by the behavior. I went back to the team and we decided to conduct wider research on the satisfaction with this program in the organization, beyond the initial information we had from our internal stakeholders. We made thorough analyses and written proposal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the end, I haven’t communicated the whole scope of change, but focused that what we want to do is smaller adjustments. Than the ego was satisfied and we were supported to go ahead."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how change recipients experimented with available knowledge after accepting change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Honestly, I think they still believed the “old” was… was better. But the “old” way was developed and pushed by that person (my superior)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the moment of “big change” that initiated this positive change in attitudes of change recipients?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the end, I haven’t communicated the whole scope of change, but focused that what we want to do is smaller adjustments. Than the ego was satisfied and we were supported to go ahead."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how change recipients experimented with available knowledge after accepting change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Honestly, I think they still believed the “old” was… was better. But the “old” way was developed and pushed by that person (my superior)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the moment of “big change” that initiated this positive change in attitudes of change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I approached it that is “just small adjustments” and not conceptual change which it was. I was doing things “under the radar”, which was accepted but I never got recognition for good job we have done. Because you know how this organization works - unless you make huge fuss about it, its like you didn't do anything. So this way of implementing improvements was good for my team (inclusion) and organization (improvements) but costed me career in the company."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who did you reach out to first when experimenting after this “big change”?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Honestly, I think they still believed the “old” was… was better. But the “old” way was developed and pushed by that person (my superior)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the moment of “big change” that initiated this positive change in attitudes of change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I approached it that is “just small adjustments” and not conceptual change which it was. I was doing things “under the radar”, which was accepted but I never got recognition for good job we have done. Because you know how this organization works - unless you make huge fuss about it, its like you didn't do anything. So this way of implementing improvements was good for my team (inclusion) and organization (improvements) but costed me career in the company."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who did you reach out to first when experimenting after this “big change”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I gained allies in the users of the program - country HRMs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how these events went?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I approached it that is “just small adjustments” and not conceptual change which it was. I was doing things “under the radar”, which was accepted but I never got recognition for good job we have done. Because you know how this organization works - unless you make huge fuss about it, its like you didn't do anything. So this way of implementing improvements was good for my team (inclusion) and organization (improvements) but costed me career in the company."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who did you reach out to first when experimenting after this “big change”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I gained allies in the users of the program - country HRMs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how these events went?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Strong allies were in the countries - HRMs. But no one wanted to be on the radar of superior. My team wanted to change things, believed that it should be different (as well as HRMs) BUT... superior had lot of power and very aggressive behaviour that froze people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to your change recipients after they expressed doubt for the second time?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I gained allies in the users of the program - country HRMs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how these events went?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Strong allies were in the countries - HRMs. But no one wanted to be on the radar of superior. My team wanted to change things, believed that it should be different (as well as HRMs) BUT... superior had lot of power and very aggressive behaviour that froze people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to your change recipients after they expressed doubt for the second time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I downplayed the impact of changes even more, so that recipient would not feel threatened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall who was the loudest and how you addressed these comments?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Strong allies were in the countries - HRMs. But no one wanted to be on the radar of superior. My team wanted to change things, believed that it should be different (as well as HRMs) BUT... superior had lot of power and very aggressive behaviour that froze people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to your change recipients after they expressed doubt for the second time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I downplayed the impact of changes even more, so that recipient would not feel threatened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall who was the loudest and how you addressed these comments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My peers were on her side and her colleagues in (country) that are in TA. I think the info that we are dramatically planning things to change came from that TA-1 in (country) as I shared my perspective that things could be done differently there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through how you handled this second round of growing reluctance among change recipients."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I downplayed the impact of changes even more, so that recipient would not feel threatened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall who was the loudest and how you addressed these comments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My peers were on her side and her colleagues in (country) that are in TA. I think the info that we are dramatically planning things to change came from that TA-1 in (country) as I shared my perspective that things could be done differently there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through how you handled this second round of growing reluctance among change recipients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were talking with countries, building up the scenarios that make most sense and keep the most of the previous legacy. So in a way, keep what is good and adopt where needed. They were very useful and helpful, working closely and being very supportive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the biggest obstacles during this stage?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My peers were on her side and her colleagues in (country) that are in TA. I think the info that we are dramatically planning things to change came from that TA-1 in (country) as I shared my perspective that things could be done differently there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through how you handled this second round of growing reluctance among change recipients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were talking with countries, building up the scenarios that make most sense and keep the most of the previous legacy. So in a way, keep what is good and adopt where needed. They were very useful and helpful, working closely and being very supportive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the biggest obstacles during this stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Stupidity and ego."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall the most difficult conversation you’ve had to manage during this phase?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were talking with countries, building up the scenarios that make most sense and keep the most of the previous legacy. So in a way, keep what is good and adopt where needed. They were very useful and helpful, working closely and being very supportive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the biggest obstacles during this stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Stupidity and ego."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall the most difficult conversation you’ve had to manage during this phase?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This phase was easier as I learned what is important to the beast. I learned not to talk too much to my superior and tell her only what she wanted to hear. Not what I really thought about it and what all needs to change. I kept on minimizing the impact on her outstanding program that she developed and because “countries are not able to be as good as she was” we need to allow them to build capabilities to be able to be on the same level (as her) in the future."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote covering the regression of change recipients from the stage of accepting change towards resisting change again."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Stupidity and ego."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall the most difficult conversation you’ve had to manage during this phase?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This phase was easier as I learned what is important to the beast. I learned not to talk too much to my superior and tell her only what she wanted to hear. Not what I really thought about it and what all needs to change. I kept on minimizing the impact on her outstanding program that she developed and because “countries are not able to be as good as she was” we need to allow them to build capabilities to be able to be on the same level (as her) in the future."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote covering the regression of change recipients from the stage of accepting change towards resisting change again."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t want to give up because of the team, as they were totally mobilized to do good for the organization. To simplify and to make a difference. I felt I have to find the way to stay with it, even if it’s not 100% what we wanted to achieve."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the most important insights from this stage in your opinion?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This phase was easier as I learned what is important to the beast. I learned not to talk too much to my superior and tell her only what she wanted to hear. Not what I really thought about it and what all needs to change. I kept on minimizing the impact on her outstanding program that she developed and because “countries are not able to be as good as she was” we need to allow them to build capabilities to be able to be on the same level (as her) in the future."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote covering the regression of change recipients from the stage of accepting change towards resisting change again."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t want to give up because of the team, as they were totally mobilized to do good for the organization. To simplify and to make a difference. I felt I have to find the way to stay with it, even if it’s not 100% what we wanted to achieve."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the most important insights from this stage in your opinion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t allow it to happen at all. I was limiting the amount of information provided."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the most resilient and how did you handle this challenge?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t want to give up because of the team, as they were totally mobilized to do good for the organization. To simplify and to make a difference. I felt I have to find the way to stay with it, even if it’s not 100% what we wanted to achieve."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the most important insights from this stage in your opinion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t allow it to happen at all. I was limiting the amount of information provided."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the most resilient and how did you handle this challenge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I handled it very badly. My team members were more resilient as they were used to the leadership style in that organization (I was new to the organization). I never talked to many more senior leaders but my superior. I was shocked by brutality and style, I felt frozen - never happened in my life to feel that way. I was totally surprised that someone of that seniority can behave like that. At the perf evaluation I was evaluated as not fully performing and told (by my superior) that I am collaborative, I am open minded, I have lot of knowledge but I am not using it to create legacy. I thought of course I am not, when I was treated as piece of shit by her. I was ready to press charges against her (mobbing) when the announcement was out that she is replaced by new Talent director. Not many conflicts, as after those 2 sessions I was not able to find my stability in the relationship with her."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve it and what were the early signs of them experiencing reawakening?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t allow it to happen at all. I was limiting the amount of information provided."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the most resilient and how did you handle this challenge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I handled it very badly. My team members were more resilient as they were used to the leadership style in that organization (I was new to the organization). I never talked to many more senior leaders but my superior. I was shocked by brutality and style, I felt frozen - never happened in my life to feel that way. I was totally surprised that someone of that seniority can behave like that. At the perf evaluation I was evaluated as not fully performing and told (by my superior) that I am collaborative, I am open minded, I have lot of knowledge but I am not using it to create legacy. I thought of course I am not, when I was treated as piece of shit by her. I was ready to press charges against her (mobbing) when the announcement was out that she is replaced by new Talent director. Not many conflicts, as after those 2 sessions I was not able to find my stability in the relationship with her."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve it and what were the early signs of them experiencing reawakening?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not sure that reawakening ever happened. I think there was enough assurance that the main idea or principle that was implemented is still alive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was your strongest ally at this stage?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I handled it very badly. My team members were more resilient as they were used to the leadership style in that organization (I was new to the organization). I never talked to many more senior leaders but my superior. I was shocked by brutality and style, I felt frozen - never happened in my life to feel that way. I was totally surprised that someone of that seniority can behave like that. At the perf evaluation I was evaluated as not fully performing and told (by my superior) that I am collaborative, I am open minded, I have lot of knowledge but I am not using it to create legacy. I thought of course I am not, when I was treated as piece of shit by her. I was ready to press charges against her (mobbing) when the announcement was out that she is replaced by new Talent director. Not many conflicts, as after those 2 sessions I was not able to find my stability in the relationship with her."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve it and what were the early signs of them experiencing reawakening?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not sure that reawakening ever happened. I think there was enough assurance that the main idea or principle that was implemented is still alive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was your strongest ally at this stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My team."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the first signs of successful transformation with change recipients?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not sure that reawakening ever happened. I think there was enough assurance that the main idea or principle that was implemented is still alive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was your strongest ally at this stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My team."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the first signs of successful transformation with change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "More flexibility in the graduate program, more people engaged in it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main point you managed to get across?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My team."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the first signs of successful transformation with change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "More flexibility in the graduate program, more people engaged in it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main point you managed to get across?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Simplicity and impact"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the most important thing to highlight here?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00005:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "More flexibility in the graduate program, more people engaged in it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main point you managed to get across?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Simplicity and impact"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the most important thing to highlight here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I learned that before implementing change, I must sense who the change will impact the most and what is their true feelings about it. Not only declarative saying, but how are they personally linked with it and what do they want to achieve. OR what will keep them satisfied."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, I think we got everything, thanks again for taking the time to do this."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.083506087305515, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This office is for the in charge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So we are seated in the in charge’s office with one of the health workers in Buwambo."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now sir, tell me about yourself. How old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am making twenty six."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are your qualifications?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.537228985895016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now sir, tell me about yourself. How old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am making twenty six."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are your qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I first qualified as a comprehensive nurse then I upgraded to clinical medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long have you been working here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.8191433176611294, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am making twenty six."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are your qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I first qualified as a comprehensive nurse then I upgraded to clinical medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long have you been working here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I started in November; four months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and where did you train from?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0212703529568103, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I first qualified as a comprehensive nurse then I upgraded to clinical medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long have you been working here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I started in November; four months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and where did you train from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I Trained from Kabale School of Health Sciences for Nursing and Clinical medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said you’ve been working here for?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.245855947729789, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I started in November; four months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and where did you train from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I Trained from Kabale School of Health Sciences for Nursing and Clinical medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said you’ve been working here for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For four months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s look at the demographics of the patients you have seen in your practice. Tell me about them. Who are those people you have seen mainly? Age group, sex."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.550439441641715, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For four months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s look at the demographics of the patients you have seen in your practice. Tell me about them. Who are those people you have seen mainly? Age group, sex."}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to the condition we are talking about?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually they are always adults; 16 years, 75 ... 50-75years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the commonest?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6115993796019055, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to the condition we are talking about?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually they are always adults; 16 years, 75 ... 50-75years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the commonest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Male or female."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are the commonest illnesses you see in this place?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6795548662243394, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually they are always adults; 16 years, 75 ... 50-75years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the commonest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Male or female."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are the commonest illnesses you see in this place?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Common illnesses; diabetes, hypertension, arthritis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And among the children?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7550609624714881, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Male or female."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are the commonest illnesses you see in this place?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Common illnesses; diabetes, hypertension, arthritis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And among the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most conditions; respiratory infections (Upper and lower,) common colds, skin diseases. Those are the common illnesses in children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you ever see any children who come with sore throat?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8389566249683201, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Common illnesses; diabetes, hypertension, arthritis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And among the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most conditions; respiratory infections (Upper and lower,) common colds, skin diseases. Those are the common illnesses in children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you ever see any children who come with sore throat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’ve ever seen, not just once or twice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it a common illness around here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.932174027742578, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most conditions; respiratory infections (Upper and lower,) common colds, skin diseases. Those are the common illnesses in children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you ever see any children who come with sore throat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’ve ever seen, not just once or twice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it a common illness around here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not common but it comes with a season then it disappears. It’s not so common."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now let’s talk about your training in RHD that’s rheumatic heart disease. Have you ever heard about it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0357489197139755, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’ve ever seen, not just once or twice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it a common illness around here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not common but it comes with a season then it disappears. It’s not so common."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now let’s talk about your training in RHD that’s rheumatic heart disease. Have you ever heard about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’ve ever heard about it just that I’ve not got many patients to handle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you get any specific or special training during school in RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1508321330155282, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not common but it comes with a season then it disappears. It’s not so common."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now let’s talk about your training in RHD that’s rheumatic heart disease. Have you ever heard about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’ve ever heard about it just that I’ve not got many patients to handle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you get any specific or special training during school in RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they introduce that topic during school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4207804111302815, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they introduce that topic during school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They did?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And after graduation have you had any CME or any talk on RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5786449012558683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They did?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And after graduation have you had any CME or any talk on RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have just graduated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you have not had any training in RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.754049890284298, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And after graduation have you had any CME or any talk on RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have just graduated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you have not had any training in RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I have just graduated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have just graduated?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.1654936917090097, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I have just graduated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have just graduated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In November."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So since you started practicing have you seen any patient with rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2949929907877888, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In November."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So since you started practicing have you seen any patient with rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I had a patient when I was still a student. So that patient had rheumatic heart disease so we had to refer to Mulago heart institute; it was late."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had to take the patient to Mulago?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4388811008753208, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In November."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So since you started practicing have you seen any patient with rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I had a patient when I was still a student. So that patient had rheumatic heart disease so we had to refer to Mulago heart institute; it was late."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had to take the patient to Mulago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had to escort the patient to Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you manage that patient at all here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5987567787503565, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I had a patient when I was still a student. So that patient had rheumatic heart disease so we had to refer to Mulago heart institute; it was late."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had to take the patient to Mulago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had to escort the patient to Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you manage that patient at all here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn’t here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6652853097226185, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had to escort the patient to Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you manage that patient at all here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn’t here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was in a different health Centre in Luweero."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So far have you seen any one?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7392058996917983, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn’t here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was in a different health Centre in Luweero."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So far have you seen any one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So far, no. The time I have been here, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not seen any one? Any RHD patient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8213398885464426, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was in a different health Centre in Luweero."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So far have you seen any one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So far, no. The time I have been here, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not seen any one? Any RHD patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, so what is your understanding on the causes of rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.912599876162714, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So far, no. The time I have been here, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not seen any one? Any RHD patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, so what is your understanding on the causes of rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I understand it originates from oral thrush (infection from oral thrush) then descends through blood to the heart valves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then are you aware of any link between sore throat and RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0139998624030155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, so what is your understanding on the causes of rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I understand it originates from oral thrush (infection from oral thrush) then descends through blood to the heart valves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then are you aware of any link between sore throat and RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what’s the link between them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1266665137811283, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I understand it originates from oral thrush (infection from oral thrush) then descends through blood to the heart valves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then are you aware of any link between sore throat and RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what’s the link between them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The link?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are they related?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2518516819790313, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what’s the link between them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The link?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are they related?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The same infection that attacks the throat is the same infection that descends through blood, attacks the heart then the patient will develop rheumatic heart disease. That's my understanding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what were you told can be done to prevent rheumatic heart disease."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3909463133100348, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The link?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are they related?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The same infection that attacks the throat is the same infection that descends through blood, attacks the heart then the patient will develop rheumatic heart disease. That's my understanding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what were you told can be done to prevent rheumatic heart disease."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Preventive measures?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. How can someone prevent getting RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5454959036778164, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The same infection that attacks the throat is the same infection that descends through blood, attacks the heart then the patient will develop rheumatic heart disease. That's my understanding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what were you told can be done to prevent rheumatic heart disease."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Preventive measures?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. How can someone prevent getting RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oral hygiene, I think that’s the first."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7172176707531293, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Preventive measures?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. How can someone prevent getting RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oral hygiene, I think that’s the first."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And medical checkups can also help us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. How do we treat RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9080196341701436, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oral hygiene, I think that’s the first."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And medical checkups can also help us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. How do we treat RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In treatment?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. How do they manage RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0089107046334929, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And medical checkups can also help us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. How do we treat RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In treatment?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. How do they manage RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course for all patients with cardiac conditions we have to be in a specialized setting. Such a patient in place like Buwambo, we can’t give a lot of management. We always tend to refer those patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you refer them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1210118940372142, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In treatment?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. How do they manage RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course for all patients with cardiac conditions we have to be in a specialized setting. Such a patient in place like Buwambo, we can’t give a lot of management. We always tend to refer those patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you refer them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To clinics where we know they can be managed well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know some of those referral clinics?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2455687711524601, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course for all patients with cardiac conditions we have to be in a specialized setting. Such a patient in place like Buwambo, we can’t give a lot of management. We always tend to refer those patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you refer them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To clinics where we know they can be managed well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know some of those referral clinics?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have new Mulago Heart Institute"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from Mulago?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.383965301280511, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To clinics where we know they can be managed well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know some of those referral clinics?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have new Mulago Heart Institute"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from Mulago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And other big hospitals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Are there any aspects of RHD management in which you need to be trained?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5377392236450123, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have new Mulago Heart Institute"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from Mulago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And other big hospitals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Are there any aspects of RHD management in which you need to be trained?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which area? If you were offered to be trained in any aspect of RHD management."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.708599137383347, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And other big hospitals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Are there any aspects of RHD management in which you need to be trained?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which area? If you were offered to be trained in any aspect of RHD management."}, {"role": "user", "content": "l want them to train me how to identify a patient with RHD because we study but we don’t come out with that knowledge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So in identifying patients!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8984434859814965, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which area? If you were offered to be trained in any aspect of RHD management."}, {"role": "user", "content": "l want them to train me how to identify a patient with RHD because we study but we don’t come out with that knowledge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So in identifying patients!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Identifying patients with Rheumatic Heart Disease and more training in management. Not just referring."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Any other area? So identification of symptoms and management!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1093816510905516, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "l want them to train me how to identify a patient with RHD because we study but we don’t come out with that knowledge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So in identifying patients!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Identifying patients with Rheumatic Heart Disease and more training in management. Not just referring."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Any other area? So identification of symptoms and management!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And then so what is your understanding about the long-term prognosis of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2150307134439133, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So long-term prognosis of RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It can be due to other complications."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And maybe death as the final."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you've told me that you have ever encountered an RHD patient."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.5722563482710146, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It can be due to other complications."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And maybe death as the final."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you've told me that you have ever encountered an RHD patient."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me; when did you last encounter an RHD patient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.064514010211129, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me; when did you last encounter an RHD patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, October."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In October. So briefly summarize that visit. How did that patient present? How did you handle?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.293904455790143, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, October."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In October. So briefly summarize that visit. How did that patient present? How did you handle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The patient had a history of on and off fevers but had difficulties in breathing, and then he still had joint pains with swollen joints."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was that patient managed? Did the patient come and present that I have RHD or came without."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.597412908382892, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The patient had a history of on and off fevers but had difficulties in breathing, and then he still had joint pains with swollen joints."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was that patient managed? Did the patient come and present that I have RHD or came without."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The patient came as an emergency, so we had to refer. We controlled the fevers but we had nothing much to do in that very moment so we had to refer the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said since you started practice how many patients have you encountered with RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.972114701707274, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said since you started practice how many patients have you encountered with RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got one patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One patient!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And you said how old was that patient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0801274463414157, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got one patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One patient!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And you said how old was that patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Was 64 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and then when you look at these patients do you think they know the link between sore throat and this Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2001416070460174, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And you said how old was that patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Was 64 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and then when you look at these patients do you think they know the link between sore throat and this Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And then what sort of symptoms do they describe to you when they come? In their own description, what do they say?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.481656304995083, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And then what sort of symptoms do they describe to you when they come? In their own description, what do they say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will tell you they always have difficulties in breathing, that's the first symptom, and then with fevers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and then when you look at their follow up or when you tell them to come back maybe for follow up do they come back?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.64628478332787, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will tell you they always have difficulties in breathing, that's the first symptom, and then with fevers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and then when you look at their follow up or when you tell them to come back maybe for follow up do they come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Excuse me. I have only encountered one patient so I didn't get a chance of meeting her again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So in your opinion I know you have not encountered any but what do you think stops some people from going into care? Now that one came as an emergency, but why do you think people don't seek care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8292053148087444, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and then when you look at their follow up or when you tell them to come back maybe for follow up do they come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Excuse me. I have only encountered one patient so I didn't get a chance of meeting her again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So in your opinion I know you have not encountered any but what do you think stops some people from going into care? Now that one came as an emergency, but why do you think people don't seek care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People don't seek care just because of their ignorance; they don't know what to do and those who have tried to go for health care meet a problem of health care provider attitude."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it about the attitude of the health care providers?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9213392386763826, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Excuse me. I have only encountered one patient so I didn't get a chance of meeting her again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So in your opinion I know you have not encountered any but what do you think stops some people from going into care? Now that one came as an emergency, but why do you think people don't seek care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People don't seek care just because of their ignorance; they don't know what to do and those who have tried to go for health care meet a problem of health care provider attitude."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it about the attitude of the health care providers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because if I refer a patient to your unit and you don't attend to him or her, of course tomorrow that patient won't come back. I think that’s the biggest problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other one? Why do you think you tell these RHD patients to come for treatment and they don’t?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0237102651959806, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People don't seek care just because of their ignorance; they don't know what to do and those who have tried to go for health care meet a problem of health care provider attitude."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it about the attitude of the health care providers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because if I refer a patient to your unit and you don't attend to him or her, of course tomorrow that patient won't come back. I think that’s the biggest problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other one? Why do you think you tell these RHD patients to come for treatment and they don’t?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we have units which are very deep. And people don't have access to the health facilities, lack transport and such issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else? How about your health care, what barriers do you face?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1374558502177563, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because if I refer a patient to your unit and you don't attend to him or her, of course tomorrow that patient won't come back. I think that’s the biggest problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other one? Why do you think you tell these RHD patients to come for treatment and they don’t?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we have units which are very deep. And people don't have access to the health facilities, lack transport and such issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else? How about your health care, what barriers do you face?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As in?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when you are providing care, like that RHD patient who came and you referred."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2638398335752847, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we have units which are very deep. And people don't have access to the health facilities, lack transport and such issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else? How about your health care, what barriers do you face?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As in?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when you are providing care, like that RHD patient who came and you referred."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What stopped you from handling that case?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4042664817503163, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As in?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when you are providing care, like that RHD patient who came and you referred."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What stopped you from handling that case?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] okay, lack of medical supplies first, then having doctors but we don't have medical drugs, equipment of course, so you have to refer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Which drugs in that case would you need, that if they were here you would have helped that lady?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5602960908336847, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What stopped you from handling that case?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] okay, lack of medical supplies first, then having doctors but we don't have medical drugs, equipment of course, so you have to refer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Which drugs in that case would you need, that if they were here you would have helped that lady?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(sighs)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't know?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7336623231485384, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] okay, lack of medical supplies first, then having doctors but we don't have medical drugs, equipment of course, so you have to refer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Which drugs in that case would you need, that if they were here you would have helped that lady?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(sighs)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can't think of any. Okay and then let’s talk about the administration here. Is it working for you? Does it help you in any way when you are doing your work or makes your work better?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9262914701650427, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "(sighs)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can't think of any. Okay and then let’s talk about the administration here. Is it working for you? Does it help you in any way when you are doing your work or makes your work better?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The administration, though am learning it, in my view it doesn't help as I expect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you want them to improve?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0292127446278252, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can't think of any. Okay and then let’s talk about the administration here. Is it working for you? Does it help you in any way when you are doing your work or makes your work better?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The administration, though am learning it, in my view it doesn't help as I expect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you want them to improve?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As Buwombo or from up?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let's start from the district."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.143569716253139, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The administration, though am learning it, in my view it doesn't help as I expect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you want them to improve?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As Buwombo or from up?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let's start from the district."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From the district, for the better of our patients they don't do close supervision and then sometimes we have a lot of patients but we have few staff and even medical supplies we don't have. We don't have drugs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which drugs are scarce here? Which are some of the essential drugs that you don't really have here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2706330180590433, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As Buwombo or from up?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let's start from the district."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From the district, for the better of our patients they don't do close supervision and then sometimes we have a lot of patients but we have few staff and even medical supplies we don't have. We don't have drugs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which drugs are scarce here? Which are some of the essential drugs that you don't really have here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have most of the drugs like, we don’t have Hypertensives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And do you have any drugs that treat heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.411814464510048, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From the district, for the better of our patients they don't do close supervision and then sometimes we have a lot of patients but we have few staff and even medical supplies we don't have. We don't have drugs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which drugs are scarce here? Which are some of the essential drugs that you don't really have here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have most of the drugs like, we don’t have Hypertensives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And do you have any drugs that treat heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any drug like Benzathine in stock here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.568682738344498, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have most of the drugs like, we don’t have Hypertensives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And do you have any drugs that treat heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any drug like Benzathine in stock here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't heard but for the moment we don't have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you’ve said there's no supervision, supervision is lacking! How would you want your health center to be supervised?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7429808203827755, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any drug like Benzathine in stock here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't heard but for the moment we don't have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you’ve said there's no supervision, supervision is lacking! How would you want your health center to be supervised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course if you come to ground as a head, you have to discover the problems; our issues, but those people may take a long time to come to the ground yet some of us have our issues so, it is such things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. How about the leadership here, if you need supplies and things to use do you get them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9366453559808616, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven't heard but for the moment we don't have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you’ve said there's no supervision, supervision is lacking! How would you want your health center to be supervised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course if you come to ground as a head, you have to discover the problems; our issues, but those people may take a long time to come to the ground yet some of us have our issues so, it is such things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. How about the leadership here, if you need supplies and things to use do you get them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do supply."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything lacking in the administration?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1518281733120683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course if you come to ground as a head, you have to discover the problems; our issues, but those people may take a long time to come to the ground yet some of us have our issues so, it is such things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. How about the leadership here, if you need supplies and things to use do you get them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do supply."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything lacking in the administration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[no response]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "silence means nothing?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3909201925689647, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do supply."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything lacking in the administration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[no response]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "silence means nothing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let's leave that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about funding in health care, is it working for you as you are doing your work as a health worker?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.656577991743294, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[no response]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "silence means nothing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let's leave that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about funding in health care, is it working for you as you are doing your work as a health worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's working for me on side but not much for the patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Explain more."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8406422130481044, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let's leave that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about funding in health care, is it working for you as you are doing your work as a health worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's working for me on side but not much for the patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Explain more."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe we get funding but maybe we may not be knowing because I see we don’t get most of the things we need. You find that one who has a BP machine moves with it; it's personalized. That means it's his and the health center doesn't have any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you request what happens?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.045158014497894, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's working for me on side but not much for the patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Explain more."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe we get funding but maybe we may not be knowing because I see we don’t get most of the things we need. You find that one who has a BP machine moves with it; it's personalized. That means it's his and the health center doesn't have any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you request what happens?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course they keep on promising we shall get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you do when you get a hypertensive patient or people whom you need to check with that machine? In such instances how do you handle?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2723977938865487, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe we get funding but maybe we may not be knowing because I see we don’t get most of the things we need. You find that one who has a BP machine moves with it; it's personalized. That means it's his and the health center doesn't have any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you request what happens?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course they keep on promising we shall get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you do when you get a hypertensive patient or people whom you need to check with that machine? In such instances how do you handle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we always have our own equipments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you move with your own BP machine."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5248864376517206, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course they keep on promising we shall get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you do when you get a hypertensive patient or people whom you need to check with that machine? In such instances how do you handle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we always have our own equipments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you move with your own BP machine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] and when I am not around they won't take any blood pressure and I cannot leave it behind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Umm, when you look at the number of health workers, how are they here? Are they working in number?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.805429375168578, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we always have our own equipments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you move with your own BP machine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] and when I am not around they won't take any blood pressure and I cannot leave it behind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Umm, when you look at the number of health workers, how are they here? Are they working in number?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have a number of health care providers but I can say to an extent they are not enough. You know they may be enough but they don't want to provide services."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how are the numbers of patients here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.894921527965087, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] and when I am not around they won't take any blood pressure and I cannot leave it behind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Umm, when you look at the number of health workers, how are they here? Are they working in number?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have a number of health care providers but I can say to an extent they are not enough. You know they may be enough but they don't want to provide services."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how are the numbers of patients here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the patients they know the time when we get drugs and when they are out of stock. When they know we have drugs they come in big numbers. Like in this season, we have a big number of patients not like the previous months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They get to know there are drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.994357253294541, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have a number of health care providers but I can say to an extent they are not enough. You know they may be enough but they don't want to provide services."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how are the numbers of patients here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the patients they know the time when we get drugs and when they are out of stock. When they know we have drugs they come in big numbers. Like in this season, we have a big number of patients not like the previous months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They get to know there are drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that's when they come."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if you look at the qualifications of the health workers here are they working for you or there are Cadres where you feel like they need to be boosted."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.10484139254949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the patients they know the time when we get drugs and when they are out of stock. When they know we have drugs they come in big numbers. Like in this season, we have a big number of patients not like the previous months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They get to know there are drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that's when they come."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if you look at the qualifications of the health workers here are they working for you or there are Cadres where you feel like they need to be boosted."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So things of Cadres, as you have seen we have doctors, nursing officers, clinical officers but you find a doctor doesn't work and it's the nursing assistant who works meaning those cardiac patients have to be attended by a clinical officer or a doctor or nursing officer but when you find a nursing officer attending to cardiac patients, that means doctors and clinical officers don't know what they are supposed to be doing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at the medicine you said you usually have stock outs. You don’t have most of the medicine."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.227601547277211, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that's when they come."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then if you look at the qualifications of the health workers here are they working for you or there are Cadres where you feel like they need to be boosted."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So things of Cadres, as you have seen we have doctors, nursing officers, clinical officers but you find a doctor doesn't work and it's the nursing assistant who works meaning those cardiac patients have to be attended by a clinical officer or a doctor or nursing officer but when you find a nursing officer attending to cardiac patients, that means doctors and clinical officers don't know what they are supposed to be doing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at the medicine you said you usually have stock outs. You don’t have most of the medicine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for the heart medicine you don't have any. Is that what you are saying? Okay let me mention some; do you have some of the heart failure drugs here in your health center? Have you seen any?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3640017191969012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So things of Cadres, as you have seen we have doctors, nursing officers, clinical officers but you find a doctor doesn't work and it's the nursing assistant who works meaning those cardiac patients have to be attended by a clinical officer or a doctor or nursing officer but when you find a nursing officer attending to cardiac patients, that means doctors and clinical officers don't know what they are supposed to be doing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at the medicine you said you usually have stock outs. You don’t have most of the medicine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for the heart medicine you don't have any. Is that what you are saying? Okay let me mention some; do you have some of the heart failure drugs here in your health center? Have you seen any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the BPG?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5155574657743347, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for the heart medicine you don't have any. Is that what you are saying? Okay let me mention some; do you have some of the heart failure drugs here in your health center? Have you seen any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the BPG?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have Anti coagulation drugs in stock here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6839527397492609, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the BPG?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have Anti coagulation drugs in stock here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Maybe? Have you seen any?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8710585997214009, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have Anti coagulation drugs in stock here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Maybe? Have you seen any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I can't tell because I haven't seen any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And how about diagnostics, tell me about them. How are they in this Buwambo health center? Are they working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0789539996904454, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Maybe? Have you seen any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I can't tell because I haven't seen any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And how about diagnostics, tell me about them. How are they in this Buwambo health center? Are they working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The diagnostics. For instance, do you have echo-cardiography here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.3099488885449393, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I can't tell because I haven't seen any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And how about diagnostics, tell me about them. How are they in this Buwambo health center? Are they working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The diagnostics. For instance, do you have echo-cardiography here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we don't have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where is the nearest health center to get one?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.4554987650499325, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The diagnostics. For instance, do you have echo-cardiography here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we don't have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where is the nearest health center to get one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe in town or Bombo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So let's look at the record keeping system and the health information flow here. Is it working here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5061097389443694, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we don't have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where is the nearest health center to get one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe in town or Bombo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So let's look at the record keeping system and the health information flow here. Is it working here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As in what?\n\nLet's look at how you keep records in case you need to look up a patient who has come in for follow up. Is it easy to access the file if you want to know who worked on that person?\n\nOn my side it's working very well in the HAART clinic but this side I don't think it’s flowing very well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we improve the way information flows between you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5623441543826326, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe in town or Bombo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So let's look at the record keeping system and the health information flow here. Is it working here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As in what?\n\nLet's look at how you keep records in case you need to look up a patient who has come in for follow up. Is it easy to access the file if you want to know who worked on that person?\n\nOn my side it's working very well in the HAART clinic but this side I don't think it’s flowing very well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we improve the way information flows between you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe installing a system where we can track all those patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of system?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6248268382029252, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As in what?\n\nLet's look at how you keep records in case you need to look up a patient who has come in for follow up. Is it easy to access the file if you want to know who worked on that person?\n\nOn my side it's working very well in the HAART clinic but this side I don't think it’s flowing very well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we improve the way information flows between you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe installing a system where we can track all those patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It can computerized."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you had any RF patients? Patients who come with acute rheumatic failure?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6942520424476947, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe installing a system where we can track all those patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It can computerized."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you had any RF patients? Patients who come with acute rheumatic failure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven’t had any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you don't have any kind of registers for those kind of patients."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7713911582752163, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It can computerized."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you had any RF patients? Patients who come with acute rheumatic failure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven’t had any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you don't have any kind of registers for those kind of patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I know we don't have any registers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you looked at any guidelines for RHD management?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8571012869724626, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven’t had any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you don't have any kind of registers for those kind of patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I know we don't have any registers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you looked at any guidelines for RHD management?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Have you ever attended any CME on heart disease or RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9523347633027361, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I know we don't have any registers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you looked at any guidelines for RHD management?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Have you ever attended any CME on heart disease or RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never attended any CME."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you hold CMEs here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0581497370030402, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Have you ever attended any CME on heart disease or RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never attended any CME."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you hold CMEs here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many? How often?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.06461081889226679, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never attended any CME."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you hold CMEs here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many? How often?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always have. Of course for CMEs it always depends on staff cooperation; when you call someone to come and have a CME they say, \"are you paying me? If you're not paying me, then I am not coming”. Because some people are not cooperative so we can’t have a CME of 2 or 3 people. With two people you can have it but of course it's better if you are more than 3."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay how often do you hold them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07178979876918531, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many? How often?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always have. Of course for CMEs it always depends on staff cooperation; when you call someone to come and have a CME they say, \"are you paying me? If you're not paying me, then I am not coming”. Because some people are not cooperative so we can’t have a CME of 2 or 3 people. With two people you can have it but of course it's better if you are more than 3."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay how often do you hold them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always have CMEs twice a month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then could you be knowing a referral path for RHD patients; that this is where you take them. Do you know any of those facilities?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07976644307687257, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always have. Of course for CMEs it always depends on staff cooperation; when you call someone to come and have a CME they say, \"are you paying me? If you're not paying me, then I am not coming”. Because some people are not cooperative so we can’t have a CME of 2 or 3 people. With two people you can have it but of course it's better if you are more than 3."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay how often do you hold them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always have CMEs twice a month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then could you be knowing a referral path for RHD patients; that this is where you take them. Do you know any of those facilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am not very sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So among the things we've have mentioned administration, funding, health records system, guidelines what has worked for you? What has motivated you to do your work? What do you think is working for you in Buwambo?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.08862938119652508, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always have CMEs twice a month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then could you be knowing a referral path for RHD patients; that this is where you take them. Do you know any of those facilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am not very sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So among the things we've have mentioned administration, funding, health records system, guidelines what has worked for you? What has motivated you to do your work? What do you think is working for you in Buwambo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay funding, administration, record keeping; actually everything is down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nothing has worked for you! Okay, and then let's look at the perception of patient outcome. Generally do you think these patients like the RHD patients get the care they need here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0984770902183612, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am not very sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So among the things we've have mentioned administration, funding, health records system, guidelines what has worked for you? What has motivated you to do your work? What do you think is working for you in Buwambo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay funding, administration, record keeping; actually everything is down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nothing has worked for you! Okay, and then let's look at the perception of patient outcome. Generally do you think these patients like the RHD patients get the care they need here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For those who find positive health care providers, they get the care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And can your health center handle surgeries for RHD patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.10941898913151243, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay funding, administration, record keeping; actually everything is down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nothing has worked for you! Okay, and then let's look at the perception of patient outcome. Generally do you think these patients like the RHD patients get the care they need here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For those who find positive health care providers, they get the care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And can your health center handle surgeries for RHD patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe you ask the doctor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you have anyone who can handle such cases?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12157665459056936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For those who find positive health care providers, they get the care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And can your health center handle surgeries for RHD patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe you ask the doctor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you have anyone who can handle such cases?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't think?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13508517176729928, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe you ask the doctor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you have anyone who can handle such cases?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. When you look at your patients and their safety; is it put into consideration when you are working on them here in Buwambo?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1500946352969992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. When you look at your patients and their safety; is it put into consideration when you are working on them here in Buwambo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Safety?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, for patients."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.16677181699666577, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. When you look at your patients and their safety; is it put into consideration when you are working on them here in Buwambo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Safety?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, for patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually that's the first thing but in Buwambo I don't think it's considered. Somewhere somehow it's not considered."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think so?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1853020188851842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Safety?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, for patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually that's the first thing but in Buwambo I don't think it's considered. Somewhere somehow it's not considered."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is a center where you find the VHTs prescribing in the absence of staffs. So you can never know that they might prescribe a dangerous drug. So anything can happen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why does it happen? What makes that happen?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2058911320946491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually that's the first thing but in Buwambo I don't think it's considered. Somewhere somehow it's not considered."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is a center where you find the VHTs prescribing in the absence of staffs. So you can never know that they might prescribe a dangerous drug. So anything can happen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why does it happen? What makes that happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can't say that we don't have qualified staff because we have qualified staff, but people don't know how to perform their roles or when to perform their duties."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at the quality of care being given to your patients here how is it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22876792454961012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is a center where you find the VHTs prescribing in the absence of staffs. So you can never know that they might prescribe a dangerous drug. So anything can happen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why does it happen? What makes that happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can't say that we don't have qualified staff because we have qualified staff, but people don't know how to perform their roles or when to perform their duties."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at the quality of care being given to your patients here how is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it's at 50"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What’s stopping it from being 100%? Where are the gaps?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25418658283290013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can't say that we don't have qualified staff because we have qualified staff, but people don't know how to perform their roles or when to perform their duties."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you look at the quality of care being given to your patients here how is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it's at 50"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What’s stopping it from being 100%? Where are the gaps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those people will prescribe a drug, the patient goes to the register but doesn’t have drugs that means the chain is not complete. Some come to the laboratory but from there they are not seen by the medical staff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28242953648100017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it's at 50"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What’s stopping it from being 100%? Where are the gaps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those people will prescribe a drug, the patient goes to the register but doesn’t have drugs that means the chain is not complete. Some come to the laboratory but from there they are not seen by the medical staff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, have you seen any preventable death which occurred but wouldn't have occurred? You know there are those deaths that happen and you are like um no."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34867844010000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, have you seen any preventable death which occurred but wouldn't have occurred? You know there are those deaths that happen and you are like um no."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It might have happened?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For The time I’ve been here I've seen only death that was at theater."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you think went wrong?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38742048900000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It might have happened?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For The time I’ve been here I've seen only death that was at theater."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you think went wrong?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There I wont go deep."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I had to do with what? You don't have to mention people's names but what could have happened to her?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For The time I’ve been here I've seen only death that was at theater."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you think went wrong?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There I wont go deep."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I had to do with what? You don't have to mention people's names but what could have happened to her?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let's leave that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We Leave that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There I wont go deep."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I had to do with what? You don't have to mention people's names but what could have happened to her?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let's leave that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We Leave that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": ". Do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to hospital for care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": ". Do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to hospital for care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are far away from the basic health care settings or they don't know what they are supposed to be doing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don't know what they are supposed to be doing, in what ways?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are far away from the basic health care settings or they don't know what they are supposed to be doing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don't know what they are supposed to be doing, in what ways?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In that when you are sick you have to go to the hospital where you can get help."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason? Why are they dying? Apart from distance and not knowing."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are far away from the basic health care settings or they don't know what they are supposed to be doing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don't know what they are supposed to be doing, in what ways?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In that when you are sick you have to go to the hospital where you can get help."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason? Why are they dying? Apart from distance and not knowing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "(silence)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So in your opinion which are the two most important things Ministry of health should do to improve patient outcomes? Let's begin from general patients then we will narrow it down to RHD patients."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In that when you are sick you have to go to the hospital where you can get help."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason? Why are they dying? Apart from distance and not knowing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "(silence)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So in your opinion which are the two most important things Ministry of health should do to improve patient outcomes? Let's begin from general patients then we will narrow it down to RHD patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ministry of health! What I know they are funding but they don't follow the accountability for their funds. That's what they are supposed to do so that such a health care unit cannot lack even a thermometer and yet we are getting a lot of funds."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So accountability needs to be improved."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:255", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "(silence)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So in your opinion which are the two most important things Ministry of health should do to improve patient outcomes? Let's begin from general patients then we will narrow it down to RHD patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ministry of health! What I know they are funding but they don't follow the accountability for their funds. That's what they are supposed to do so that such a health care unit cannot lack even a thermometer and yet we are getting a lot of funds."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So accountability needs to be improved."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:257", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ministry of health! What I know they are funding but they don't follow the accountability for their funds. That's what they are supposed to do so that such a health care unit cannot lack even a thermometer and yet we are getting a lot of funds."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So accountability needs to be improved."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And regional supervision for health workers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can be done for our RHD patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00033:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And regional supervision for health workers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can be done for our RHD patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Firstly by recruiting qualified staffs for future conditions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Anything else before we finish? Okay. Thank you so much for your time and contribution towards this study, we shall your ideas to provide better services to RHD patients."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.463835641934745, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am 38 years old"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, what are your qualifications and where did you train"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I trained in school of clinical officers, I came out in 2005, I have been working in hospital based care, mainly hospital based care, clinical work, along the way of course, I did another diploma in health administration, I did another one in HIV management, added on a bachelors, added on another bachelors in HIV management and a bachelors with Mild May recently but that is not clinical, project planning and management, certificates along the way, quite a number of them, in administrative law, health administration and other areas, during that time, that is about 14years, of hospital based clinical care, I have been seeing, inpatients and out patients cases, quite a number of them, out patients cases being between 30-60 patients a day, on the wards of course those are inpatients care, that is following up the management of patients that have been admitted in more severe cases or diseases and discharged as they improve, this has been mainly facility based care, but rolling out also to outreach programs where we have been seeing, following up cases, case identification, supervision of policy implementation and various activities, and as well of course also subscribed to me by my superiors"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so how long have you been working at the regional referral here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have been here since 2010"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so those are nine years?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 14.959817379927493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I trained in school of clinical officers, I came out in 2005, I have been working in hospital based care, mainly hospital based care, clinical work, along the way of course, I did another diploma in health administration, I did another one in HIV management, added on a bachelors, added on another bachelors in HIV management and a bachelors with Mild May recently but that is not clinical, project planning and management, certificates along the way, quite a number of them, in administrative law, health administration and other areas, during that time, that is about 14years, of hospital based clinical care, I have been seeing, inpatients and out patients cases, quite a number of them, out patients cases being between 30-60 patients a day, on the wards of course those are inpatients care, that is following up the management of patients that have been admitted in more severe cases or diseases and discharged as they improve, this has been mainly facility based care, but rolling out also to outreach programs where we have been seeing, following up cases, case identification, supervision of policy implementation and various activities, and as well of course also subscribed to me by my superiors"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so how long have you been working at the regional referral here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have been here since 2010"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so those are nine years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yah nine years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so you talked about the patients you see, you talked about the numbers you see 30 to 60 patients, how about their age, which age do you see specifically and what are the common illnesses you see in these patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.341500528970451, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yah, aah repeat that, I am really not so sure"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are you aware of the link between a sore throat and rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I believe a sore throat is one of the main signs of someone having a streptococcal B infection and of course one of the signs of streptococcal B infection is sore throat, but from the sore throat, it’s also one of the clinical diagnostic manifestations we use to know that this person could be having acute rheumatic fever or not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and what were you taught can be done to prevent RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD, of course for starters, prevention is better than cure, the first thing would be prompt treatment of any cough, or sore throat with penicillin, basically that is it. Prompt treatment but even then increasing the awareness of the communities on diseases like rheumatic heart disease and rheumatic fever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what were you taught are the treatment options of rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 10.57880466311491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, he had been in school the previous term but this term, he had studied for a week or two and came down with an attack on this febrile illness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, kindly summarise for me signs and the symptoms he had, you had talked of the sore throat, how did he present when you received him?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually he presented as a case of recurrent joint pains and tonsillar hypertrophy and as I took my history I noted from the parents that he had recurrent episodes of oral pharyngitis manifesting as a sore throat, pain on swallowing and hyper salivation, these episodes were associated with fevers, being a child it had been difficult for him to talk about the joint pains, so the mother, when she found out the joint pains she was being keen and another time she really found out when she was telling him to walk and run faster and he was saying he had some pains which she could not allocate at that time, so it was basically presentation of recurrent tonsillitis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so are these our patients generally aware of the link between sore throat, rheumatic fever and rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "definitely not, at that time when they come in the diagnosis sense of; because when the patient is brought, usually a child is brought by the mother, the awareness is on the connection of co-currency, either co-currency or precision, a mother will tell you that this child first developed a fever, had sore throat around the same time and cough with flue and later got joint pains, but sometimes between this time and a few months later when they manifest with a heart symptoms, the mother might not easily correlate, so the correlation a mother or patient says is just by a fact of how some symptoms follow each other or how some symptoms are related to each other but not as part of the diagnosis that this fever, is rheumatic heart fever or rheumatic heart disease in that sense."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so do you think these patients are good at follow up and adherence, you have talked about giving them penicillin for this disease, so what do you comment about the follow up visits and adherence to the drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 17.605997592975573, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "in relation to..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "to providing care"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, yes it does"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, explain for me because we are looking at the local health system barriers so we are starting with the administration at the hospital, is this piece working for you, you said yes, how is it enabling you to give the care that you are giving or how is it a barrier to the care that you are giving patients at the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it is two forward because I would say yes and no, administration leadership it is a yes because one, we as staffs in this institution we are working and some of the things that we need are provided, we have furniture, we have lighting, we have a reporting mechanism, we have a good referral system internally, our lab is up but there are some system challenges especially one regarding the responsiveness of the administration or the leadership to certain gaps when they are reported so it would be a yes and no, administration and leadership with in the hospital has provided facility and the instruments that we need, the challenge is that this is not consistent when it comes to the drug side and the lab side"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so how about the funding for health care in general and rheumatic heart disease in particular, is the funding working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0426384610306105, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and we need to be specific, I wish I had the Uganda clinical guideline here because it’s the one I used, but if I have my UCG or my table and I met a patient who I thought had a rheumatic heart disease or acute rheumatic fever and I read through those guidelines on my table, I believe they would help me a lot in helping my patient, two after the decision is taken to help these patients according to the Uganda clinical guidelines, I would start to meet challenges, one when I order for a test let’s say an aso titer , a CBC and Echo or any other of these tests and the patient cannot afford to pay for either of the tests, at a later stage, the patient might not be able to afford the treatment if we don’t have that treatment available at a tertially stage the patient might not be able to come back for follow up on a day that was subscribe either to see a specialist or referral or to be reviewed, so the system challenges begin to come up at a practical side but not from the theoretical side of the protocol and guidelines."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so in other wards you are saying that the guidelines are working for you but the diagnostics are not working for you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "but the diagnostics are not working"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, the health information system and the records you said they are 50, 50."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot say 50, 50. I know these are things where it’s a black or white position, if data is meant to be useful, it should be full data, complete data consistently generated, consistently assimilated and analysed for it to be of any use, so I cannot say 50, 50. I would say our data is not complete, our data is porous, our data is not well assimilated and analysed, and our data is not collected on time so data is not working for me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so it’s not working for you, and for medications, BPG anti-coagulation drugs, anti failure drugs, you said they are working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1584871789229005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "but the diagnostics are not working"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, the health information system and the records you said they are 50, 50."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot say 50, 50. I know these are things where it’s a black or white position, if data is meant to be useful, it should be full data, complete data consistently generated, consistently assimilated and analysed for it to be of any use, so I cannot say 50, 50. I would say our data is not complete, our data is porous, our data is not well assimilated and analysed, and our data is not collected on time so data is not working for me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so it’s not working for you, and for medications, BPG anti-coagulation drugs, anti failure drugs, you said they are working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you would give it 50?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2872079765810005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot say 50, 50. I know these are things where it’s a black or white position, if data is meant to be useful, it should be full data, complete data consistently generated, consistently assimilated and analysed for it to be of any use, so I cannot say 50, 50. I would say our data is not complete, our data is porous, our data is not well assimilated and analysed, and our data is not collected on time so data is not working for me"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so it’s not working for you, and for medications, BPG anti-coagulation drugs, anti failure drugs, you said they are working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you would give it 50?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that question is relative on whether I am comfortable with the drugs as prescribed in theory, that one I am but availability no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so it’s working for you"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4302310850900004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "some"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you would give it 50?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that question is relative on whether I am comfortable with the drugs as prescribed in theory, that one I am but availability no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so it’s working for you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some are working for me, some of the drugs are working for me but the challenge is I don’t have consistent refresher on the category of drugs that are written there, what we call the anti-coagulants."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and the funding in general of the health care system, it is working or it’s not working?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5891456501000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that question is relative on whether I am comfortable with the drugs as prescribed in theory, that one I am but availability no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so it’s working for you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some are working for me, some of the drugs are working for me but the challenge is I don’t have consistent refresher on the category of drugs that are written there, what we call the anti-coagulants."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and the funding in general of the health care system, it is working or it’s not working?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it works at a basic level, at a basic level where provision of basic services are provided, at a higher level, that falls short"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you give it a yes or no?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7657173890000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "some are working for me, some of the drugs are working for me but the challenge is I don’t have consistent refresher on the category of drugs that are written there, what we call the anti-coagulants."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and the funding in general of the health care system, it is working or it’s not working?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it works at a basic level, at a basic level where provision of basic services are provided, at a higher level, that falls short"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you give it a yes or no?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot give it a yes or a no because I have told you at a basic level, provision of health care at a basic level, the staffing but when you begin to go into specialized care the health service delivery falls short"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and the administration you said that one is working"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9619082100000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it works at a basic level, at a basic level where provision of basic services are provided, at a higher level, that falls short"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you give it a yes or no?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot give it a yes or a no because I have told you at a basic level, provision of health care at a basic level, the staffing but when you begin to go into specialized care the health service delivery falls short"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and the administration you said that one is working"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the administration is too forward, the administration is working but there are also some leadership challenges but I would still say the administration and leadership within the hospital is okay"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so let us go to the last batch of the questions, the perception of patient outcome generally do you think these patients get the care they need, clearly we are talking about RHD patients, especially surgery, and do you think they get the care they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0687869, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot give it a yes or a no because I have told you at a basic level, provision of health care at a basic level, the staffing but when you begin to go into specialized care the health service delivery falls short"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and the administration you said that one is working"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the administration is too forward, the administration is working but there are also some leadership challenges but I would still say the administration and leadership within the hospital is okay"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so let us go to the last batch of the questions, the perception of patient outcome generally do you think these patients get the care they need, clearly we are talking about RHD patients, especially surgery, and do you think they get the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "our patients get the initial treatment, but when it comes to surgery, our patients do not get the care totally but a very small percentage, I can’t quote anything but in subjectively I can say under five percent can afford the surgery in this area, can afford the surgery required for management of rheumatic heart disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and let us look at the patient’s safety, do you think there are any patient’s safety and quality of care concerns for example have you heard preventable deaths in the hospital, have you seen a death occurring and you are like for sure this shouldn’t have happened?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.31949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "our patients get the initial treatment, but when it comes to surgery, our patients do not get the care totally but a very small percentage, I can’t quote anything but in subjectively I can say under five percent can afford the surgery in this area, can afford the surgery required for management of rheumatic heart disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and let us look at the patient’s safety, do you think there are any patient’s safety and quality of care concerns for example have you heard preventable deaths in the hospital, have you seen a death occurring and you are like for sure this shouldn’t have happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "okay, in relation to rheumatic heart disease or in general?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in general"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, I saw one maybe, I saw one, the patient had severe hypoglycaemia in diabetes and well these are factors that are out of the hospitals control because this is a person who gave themselves an injection with insulin, forgot to eat and taken some alcohol, slept thought they would wake up, they did not and by the time they found out that the person was unconscious they were in the village, the first primary health care worker did not respond to the diagnosis that this could be hypoglycaemia, managed different things and added the quinine and referred the patient here, by the time the patient came, they were very comatose and I thought that this was a problem with diagnosis, it was a preventable death. That one, there are also others that have happened but I have not been there, neither at the emergency section or down on the wards, I cannot speculate to say something which I have not been there present, that one is one case that I saw."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but do you think there are many patients dying in the community without actually presenting to the hospital for care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.629, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, I saw one maybe, I saw one, the patient had severe hypoglycaemia in diabetes and well these are factors that are out of the hospitals control because this is a person who gave themselves an injection with insulin, forgot to eat and taken some alcohol, slept thought they would wake up, they did not and by the time they found out that the person was unconscious they were in the village, the first primary health care worker did not respond to the diagnosis that this could be hypoglycaemia, managed different things and added the quinine and referred the patient here, by the time the patient came, they were very comatose and I thought that this was a problem with diagnosis, it was a preventable death. That one, there are also others that have happened but I have not been there, neither at the emergency section or down on the wards, I cannot speculate to say something which I have not been there present, that one is one case that I saw."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but do you think there are many patients dying in the community without actually presenting to the hospital for care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in regard to rheumatic heart disease or in general?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "generally"}, {"role": "user", "content": "definitely yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do you think so?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "in regard to rheumatic heart disease or in general?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "generally"}, {"role": "user", "content": "definitely yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do you think so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it has always been a barrier of ignorance, lack of knowledge, poor access to health care, poor health seeking behaviour, and financial incapacity, if we become more specific and go to either obstetric care, paediatric care, then that's where I will be more specific"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so as we wind up now, in your own opinion, are there one or two most important things you think ministry of health can do to actually improve the outcomes of our patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00020:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it has always been a barrier of ignorance, lack of knowledge, poor access to health care, poor health seeking behaviour, and financial incapacity, if we become more specific and go to either obstetric care, paediatric care, then that's where I will be more specific"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so as we wind up now, in your own opinion, are there one or two most important things you think ministry of health can do to actually improve the outcomes of our patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "if it is regarding rheumatic heart disease, I think the ministry of health needs to secure funding internally, but it will secure funding after prioritizing and ruling out a basic treatment care package for rheumatic heart disease nationwide, this care package should include, one, an Aso titer, the ability to have echo to probably attaching a CBC test and then ensuring that basic treatment for rheumatic heart disease is available. If this is going to be very expensive, some facilities have these on a private basis, it will become easier for the ministry of health to ensure that all facilities have prioritized RHD by creating a department for management of rheumatic heart disease or acute rheumatic fever in their institutions. Having a department also increases the ability for sensitization and awareness job creation among the communities, rolling out other facility based and community based facilities, I think that is the one biggest thing, prioritizing through policy formulation by the ministry, prioritizing the need to create a rheumatic heart disease department within the ministry and then following all the system tyre downwards and it is then these departments that will prioritize how and when tests can be done and then health workers will be trained and refresher courses done how and when patients can be sensitized and referred through a system that would help patients get managed better and faster."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that's the main one, because once this one is there, then the political need will come up. Of course it will secure secondary funding and the other but it still starts with prioritization"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you think you have any other thing you want to comment about before we close?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:4", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.87999603755751, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea. MM and so a group of residents including John Gloster and Virginia Major, those are the two people who are still around, uh and a number of others got together and decided that there had to be…that something had to be done so that there would be, so that there would be somewhere in War 8 where people could buy fresh fruits and vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they created the market and initially they couldn’t get any farmers to come and so they would go to the Wholesale produce market on Florida Avenue and they would buy a bunch of stuff and they would just set up tables and volunteers would run it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um. I mean after a couple years after doing that they started getting farmers…within a hundred miles, and that’s still the policy. Everything has to be produced within one hundred miles."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you guys, are you producer only, what do your regular farmers…what regular farmers does the market take? Do you do like value-added products?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:8", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 18.37036547846606, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um. I mean after a couple years after doing that they started getting farmers…within a hundred miles, and that’s still the policy. Everything has to be produced within one hundred miles."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you guys, are you producer only, what do your regular farmers…what regular farmers does the market take? Do you do like value-added products?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, it’s pretty open. Traditionally it’s just been fruits, vegetables, sometimes meat, sometimes eggs if we can get it. And then prepared food, sometimes barbeque, sometimes a fish fry. Um, things like that. This year we had a woman that did like organic, vegetarian, snacks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, sweet."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then in the past we’ve had people who’ve sold plants. Uh… we’ve had people selling soaps and cosmetics and stuff like that. And then crafts that are locally made."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sweet, that’s great."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:14", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 17.380473907360848, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um. To the market kind of grew slowly over the years, starting in 2005 or six they had enough funding for a paid market manager."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least part time, seasonally. But, because it was part time and season and the funding was always year to year it was hard to uh attract and retain really good people for that position."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Of course"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And mostly, mostly it remained a volunteer driven organization."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And is it still that way now?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:20", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.88542374123573, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, yea,. So I was out of a job last winter, and I ended up writing some grants and we ended up getting one from the DC Department of small and local business development – uh the healthy food retail program. And that created a uh thirty hour a week position from March until September of 2016. And I resigned from the Board and they hired me to uh… rather I applied for the position, and then I resigned from the board so that I could accept it. And as part of that funding we also initialed a school garden program"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At Martin Luther King Elementary. The market has moved a few times, the new, new, location is at Martin Luther King Elementary School."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we partnered with them. For the first like ten years of the market, from 1998-2008 it was in the Old Congress Heights School. And then when they started to renovate… I mean that building was vacant from the ’70s until about 2009, when they finally got around to renovating that building the market had to move. At first it moved to Greater South East Hospital, and then it moved to the THEARC for three years…on Mississippi."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I do (laughs)"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:22", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 6.539359712484144, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At Martin Luther King Elementary. The market has moved a few times, the new, new, location is at Martin Luther King Elementary School."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we partnered with them. For the first like ten years of the market, from 1998-2008 it was in the Old Congress Heights School. And then when they started to renovate… I mean that building was vacant from the ’70s until about 2009, when they finally got around to renovating that building the market had to move. At first it moved to Greater South East Hospital, and then it moved to the THEARC for three years…on Mississippi."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I do (laughs)"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "THEARC I especially know, yea."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:24", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.93262190276016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we partnered with them. For the first like ten years of the market, from 1998-2008 it was in the Old Congress Heights School. And then when they started to renovate… I mean that building was vacant from the ’70s until about 2009, when they finally got around to renovating that building the market had to move. At first it moved to Greater South East Hospital, and then it moved to the THEARC for three years…on Mississippi."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I do (laughs)"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "THEARC I especially know, yea."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh and then we got kicked out of THEARC because they were expanding that building. Also they…they had had for a while a youth garden there – Urban Farm – but around the same time they were starting to build a new building they decided they wanted to have their own farm stand CSA. And so they kicked us out and we were in 2015, in 2015 we were in Saint Elizabeth’s gateway pavilion. And now we’re at the school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well it’s good that you continue to find space. That can be a challenge."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:26", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2584687808446224, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "THEARC I especially know, yea."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh and then we got kicked out of THEARC because they were expanding that building. Also they…they had had for a while a youth garden there – Urban Farm – but around the same time they were starting to build a new building they decided they wanted to have their own farm stand CSA. And so they kicked us out and we were in 2015, in 2015 we were in Saint Elizabeth’s gateway pavilion. And now we’re at the school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well it’s good that you continue to find space. That can be a challenge."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we realized that we had a problem. With THEARC where those facilities are very nice um but they…a lot of people that visit them are not from the community and people who live here perceive those facilities as like existing for other people. And so they don’t, there were basically all these people living from across the street from THEARC and we were always leafletting those apartments and stuff but very few of those people came to the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, because those were institutions like for the…"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:30", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.0228009640057065, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we realized that we had a problem. With THEARC where those facilities are very nice um but they…a lot of people that visit them are not from the community and people who live here perceive those facilities as like existing for other people. And so they don’t, there were basically all these people living from across the street from THEARC and we were always leafletting those apartments and stuff but very few of those people came to the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, because those were institutions like for the…"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, they, we. People told us when we asked them, “we don’t really feel like that’s for us.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we hope to overcome that by being at the school in a place that’s totally accessible, there’s no fence, there’s no security, there’s no gate. People pass through there all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And people’s kids go there probably."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:32", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.4697788488952295, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, they, we. People told us when we asked them, “we don’t really feel like that’s for us.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we hope to overcome that by being at the school in a place that’s totally accessible, there’s no fence, there’s no security, there’s no gate. People pass through there all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And people’s kids go there probably."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Makes sense. Okay, cool, so can I ask you some of these questions I have?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:34", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.966420943216922, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we hope to overcome that by being at the school in a place that’s totally accessible, there’s no fence, there’s no security, there’s no gate. People pass through there all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And people’s kids go there probably."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Makes sense. Okay, cool, so can I ask you some of these questions I have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You kinda hit on some of this so uh I’ll try my best not to be repetitive but, if you had to pair down on the mission of Ward 8 Farmers Market what would you say?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:36", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.5182454924632465, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Makes sense. Okay, cool, so can I ask you some of these questions I have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You kinda hit on some of this so uh I’ll try my best not to be repetitive but, if you had to pair down on the mission of Ward 8 Farmers Market what would you say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorry I missed that, can you repeat it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea. If you had to pair down the mission of Ward 8 Farmers Market?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:44", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.410677476700574, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we do that by making local… locally grown, sustainable food accessible and affordable. And we also promote healthy living and community and environmental sustainability mainly through popular education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool."}, {"role": "user", "content": "On topics of nutrition, cooking, gardening"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Environmental sustainability"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sweet. So um do you have, I guess you’ve talked a little bit about your personal role and history with these topics. Does this mission like specifically resonate with you for a reason? Is there a specific tie you have to this mission? … [pause] Or like what does that mean to you? How do you carry that out?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:52", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.58463264243343, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and uh yea I’ve always been really concerned about social and racial justice and really like… when I decided to move over here a lot of people kind of warned me that it wouldn’t be safe, and also because … and this part is true … there’s a lack of amenities. And this part’s true. If I want to go to… if there’s an emergency I have to go across town to go to a reputable hospital."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can go to the one here but you wait for hours and you still might not see anyone. This has happened to me. And to my friends."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um. And you know we don’t have bars, we don’t have restaurants, we don’t have many places even to buy uh… good food. So that, that’s the mission."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think it’s incredibly cool that you uh. Live in the community you’re working in. I think that’s extremely important."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:56", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.302015607942506, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um. And you know we don’t have bars, we don’t have restaurants, we don’t have many places even to buy uh… good food. So that, that’s the mission."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think it’s incredibly cool that you uh. Live in the community you’re working in. I think that’s extremely important."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea. And also the fact that it’s not something that I started it was started a long time before I got here. And when I got here it was still going but it needed…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were kind of tired"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, burnout happens"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:58", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 15.89112845326945, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea. And also the fact that it’s not something that I started it was started a long time before I got here. And when I got here it was still going but it needed…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were kind of tired"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, burnout happens"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh and so.. right… it needed new people and new energy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’m glad you’re bringing that. So how do you think the market effects the specific financial security of the farmers in that 100 mile radius you have?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:68", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.733506838844772, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea. Um. We um…last year we brought on board a new farm, which we’re never proud of. It’s Licking Creek Bend Farm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, I know them"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh yea a lot of people know them because they were one of the founders of the Adam’s Morgan farmers market in the ‘70s. You know, they’ve been doing this long before it was trendy or fashionable. They’ve, and, throughout that time they’ve had a specific commitment to bringing their food to underserved community. Adams Morgan is not underserved so much anymore, and so they, you know they decided that it was time to be east of the river."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um. You know and they’re awesome because of their experience and their track record and because they’re certified naturally grown, they are really good at communicating. You know every week before market they would send a list of exactly what they would be offering with explanations for some of them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s so rare; that’s great"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:70", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 10.815007598716413, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh yea a lot of people know them because they were one of the founders of the Adam’s Morgan farmers market in the ‘70s. You know, they’ve been doing this long before it was trendy or fashionable. They’ve, and, throughout that time they’ve had a specific commitment to bringing their food to underserved community. Adams Morgan is not underserved so much anymore, and so they, you know they decided that it was time to be east of the river."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um. You know and they’re awesome because of their experience and their track record and because they’re certified naturally grown, they are really good at communicating. You know every week before market they would send a list of exactly what they would be offering with explanations for some of them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s so rare; that’s great"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And they’re like we’re gonna have these different varieties of heirloom apples which has notes of whatever. And then in May they have a community day where they invite, you know, community members and customers and vendors. And a couple of us went that last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this isn’t a relationship just at like the market itself it transcends beyond that. It seems to be a true partnership where you’re, ya know, involved beyond"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:72", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.68334177635157, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um. You know and they’re awesome because of their experience and their track record and because they’re certified naturally grown, they are really good at communicating. You know every week before market they would send a list of exactly what they would be offering with explanations for some of them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s so rare; that’s great"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And they’re like we’re gonna have these different varieties of heirloom apples which has notes of whatever. And then in May they have a community day where they invite, you know, community members and customers and vendors. And a couple of us went that last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this isn’t a relationship just at like the market itself it transcends beyond that. It seems to be a true partnership where you’re, ya know, involved beyond"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we had another farmer who signed on with us in April. But then, it’s just a small family operation in Virginia – northern neck – so when things happened, they didn’t really explain to us what it was, when June came around they didn’t have any vegetables that were ready to sell and they dropped out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s very hard"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:74", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.648157529279523, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And they’re like we’re gonna have these different varieties of heirloom apples which has notes of whatever. And then in May they have a community day where they invite, you know, community members and customers and vendors. And a couple of us went that last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this isn’t a relationship just at like the market itself it transcends beyond that. It seems to be a true partnership where you’re, ya know, involved beyond"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we had another farmer who signed on with us in April. But then, it’s just a small family operation in Virginia – northern neck – so when things happened, they didn’t really explain to us what it was, when June came around they didn’t have any vegetables that were ready to sell and they dropped out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s very hard"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it was very different for us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you’re relying on that. Um, okay, yea, cool."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:76", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.609063921421692, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we had another farmer who signed on with us in April. But then, it’s just a small family operation in Virginia – northern neck – so when things happened, they didn’t really explain to us what it was, when June came around they didn’t have any vegetables that were ready to sell and they dropped out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s very hard"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it was very different for us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you’re relying on that. Um, okay, yea, cool."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we ended up basically with one farmer, um, we had a bunch of others that were interested in vending with us. A bunch of them had the same problem, which was that they only had one truck – and the one person to drive the truck from Virginia to DC – you know and it wouldn’t be hard for me to find a Ward 8 resident who would man your stand for you. But that wasn’t actually the problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But if they had to take the time to drive the truck."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:78", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.676737690468546, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it was very different for us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you’re relying on that. Um, okay, yea, cool."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we ended up basically with one farmer, um, we had a bunch of others that were interested in vending with us. A bunch of them had the same problem, which was that they only had one truck – and the one person to drive the truck from Virginia to DC – you know and it wouldn’t be hard for me to find a Ward 8 resident who would man your stand for you. But that wasn’t actually the problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But if they had to take the time to drive the truck."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And that basically has to be someone that lives on the farm. I’m not in the position to find someone and they apparently couldn’t find anyone either. Um. So. Yea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um okay so one of the focuses of my thesis is matching program like Produce Plus. So you do distribute produce plus right? Do you match too or no?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:80", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 10.751930767187272, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we ended up basically with one farmer, um, we had a bunch of others that were interested in vending with us. A bunch of them had the same problem, which was that they only had one truck – and the one person to drive the truck from Virginia to DC – you know and it wouldn’t be hard for me to find a Ward 8 resident who would man your stand for you. But that wasn’t actually the problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But if they had to take the time to drive the truck."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And that basically has to be someone that lives on the farm. I’m not in the position to find someone and they apparently couldn’t find anyone either. Um. So. Yea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um okay so one of the focuses of my thesis is matching program like Produce Plus. So you do distribute produce plus right? Do you match too or no?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year we did. In years past we have but this year we didn’t have funding for it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, sure. So how do perceive that implementing produce plus expecially in a low income community affects – do you think it affects the outcomes of the farmers, like the amount that theyre able to sell, um, what do you see there?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:82", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.502145296874745, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And that basically has to be someone that lives on the farm. I’m not in the position to find someone and they apparently couldn’t find anyone either. Um. So. Yea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um okay so one of the focuses of my thesis is matching program like Produce Plus. So you do distribute produce plus right? Do you match too or no?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year we did. In years past we have but this year we didn’t have funding for it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, sure. So how do perceive that implementing produce plus expecially in a low income community affects – do you think it affects the outcomes of the farmers, like the amount that theyre able to sell, um, what do you see there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn’t really… I wasn’t too involved in the years before produce plus. I can tell you that in 2016 Produce Plus accounted for about 55 or 60 percent of our sales. So yea it’s huge. Without it we probably wouldn’t have had a market. Which is interesting because of course in past years we didn’t have it and we didn’t have a market. So I wonder a little bit about that… and you know Produce Plus ended at the end of, what, um"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Late November right?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:86", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.02733987268487, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn’t really… I wasn’t too involved in the years before produce plus. I can tell you that in 2016 Produce Plus accounted for about 55 or 60 percent of our sales. So yea it’s huge. Without it we probably wouldn’t have had a market. Which is interesting because of course in past years we didn’t have it and we didn’t have a market. So I wonder a little bit about that… and you know Produce Plus ended at the end of, what, um"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Late November right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we stopped receiving them at the end of August"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea and we, and we stopped being able to distribute them after that and our sales tanked. And I think they tanked at a lot of markets. And so…obviously it increases what people are able to get, what they can afford, but I wonder if it doesn’t inadvertently make people less likely to spend their SNAP and their cash."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I wonder too."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:88", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.808155414094299, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we stopped receiving them at the end of August"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea and we, and we stopped being able to distribute them after that and our sales tanked. And I think they tanked at a lot of markets. And so…obviously it increases what people are able to get, what they can afford, but I wonder if it doesn’t inadvertently make people less likely to spend their SNAP and their cash."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I wonder too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think people are like “I don’t need to use my SNAP and WIC I can use Produce Plus” but then, it’s ten dollars you know, and then do they spend more than ten dollars? Do they just keep it to that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, have you noticed, if someone is coming to market and is using like a Produce Plus voucher to pay do they also do a SNAP transaction?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:90", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.453506015660332, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea and we, and we stopped being able to distribute them after that and our sales tanked. And I think they tanked at a lot of markets. And so…obviously it increases what people are able to get, what they can afford, but I wonder if it doesn’t inadvertently make people less likely to spend their SNAP and their cash."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I wonder too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think people are like “I don’t need to use my SNAP and WIC I can use Produce Plus” but then, it’s ten dollars you know, and then do they spend more than ten dollars? Do they just keep it to that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, have you noticed, if someone is coming to market and is using like a Produce Plus voucher to pay do they also do a SNAP transaction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um I would say our SNAP sales for the season seemed very low. Um we had more WIC than SNAP. And.."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that’s a reaction?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:92", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 6.05945112851148, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think people are like “I don’t need to use my SNAP and WIC I can use Produce Plus” but then, it’s ten dollars you know, and then do they spend more than ten dollars? Do they just keep it to that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, have you noticed, if someone is coming to market and is using like a Produce Plus voucher to pay do they also do a SNAP transaction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um I would say our SNAP sales for the season seemed very low. Um we had more WIC than SNAP. And.."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that’s a reaction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m sure some economist has studied the psychology of if something is free versus if you have to pay for it. Under certain circumstances maybe you are less willing to pay. And you know we had some vendors that were not selling produce, we had someone selling aloe vera juice, we had people selling fragrances…they cant accept produce plus. And they didn’t see a huge impact. So ideally. The ten dollars of free produce would bring people in and they would spend their SNAP too if they have other money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Sorry some of this you’ve already hit on. Um. Are there any specific challenges you’ve noticed for those vendors who can accept the vouchers? The administrative aspect of it?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:94", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.399390142790533, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um I would say our SNAP sales for the season seemed very low. Um we had more WIC than SNAP. And.."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that’s a reaction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m sure some economist has studied the psychology of if something is free versus if you have to pay for it. Under certain circumstances maybe you are less willing to pay. And you know we had some vendors that were not selling produce, we had someone selling aloe vera juice, we had people selling fragrances…they cant accept produce plus. And they didn’t see a huge impact. So ideally. The ten dollars of free produce would bring people in and they would spend their SNAP too if they have other money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Sorry some of this you’ve already hit on. Um. Are there any specific challenges you’ve noticed for those vendors who can accept the vouchers? The administrative aspect of it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean I think Licking Bend was really good at that. The problem we had this past year was that everything had to be done on the tablet and there was only one tablet so I don’t know I’m hoping that next year they provide a second tablet. There were times when we had enough volunteers and we could have had, you know, two people running tablets and two people writing checks. So I’m hoping…that for those markets that are distributing a lot, like ours, that they will provide more. Or else find some way to kind of streamline the steps you have to go through. Because it was really slow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for licking creek, do you think the lack of challenges they faced is drawing on that expertise you were speaking to working with these programs for so long?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:96", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7771001586561477, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m sure some economist has studied the psychology of if something is free versus if you have to pay for it. Under certain circumstances maybe you are less willing to pay. And you know we had some vendors that were not selling produce, we had someone selling aloe vera juice, we had people selling fragrances…they cant accept produce plus. And they didn’t see a huge impact. So ideally. The ten dollars of free produce would bring people in and they would spend their SNAP too if they have other money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Sorry some of this you’ve already hit on. Um. Are there any specific challenges you’ve noticed for those vendors who can accept the vouchers? The administrative aspect of it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean I think Licking Bend was really good at that. The problem we had this past year was that everything had to be done on the tablet and there was only one tablet so I don’t know I’m hoping that next year they provide a second tablet. There were times when we had enough volunteers and we could have had, you know, two people running tablets and two people writing checks. So I’m hoping…that for those markets that are distributing a lot, like ours, that they will provide more. Or else find some way to kind of streamline the steps you have to go through. Because it was really slow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for licking creek, do you think the lack of challenges they faced is drawing on that expertise you were speaking to working with these programs for so long?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, we… I think one of the things that scared off some of the other farmers we were trying to work with is that some of them hadn’t vended in DC before so Produce Plus was news to them and I was like “you’re getting free money,” but they were intimidated by it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s fair. So I want to shift a little bit from talking about farmers to talking about the people who are actually using these programs. So how do think Produce Plus at Ward 8’s farmers’ markets effects the food security of customers participating in the program?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:98", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.196777954062386, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean I think Licking Bend was really good at that. The problem we had this past year was that everything had to be done on the tablet and there was only one tablet so I don’t know I’m hoping that next year they provide a second tablet. There were times when we had enough volunteers and we could have had, you know, two people running tablets and two people writing checks. So I’m hoping…that for those markets that are distributing a lot, like ours, that they will provide more. Or else find some way to kind of streamline the steps you have to go through. Because it was really slow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for licking creek, do you think the lack of challenges they faced is drawing on that expertise you were speaking to working with these programs for so long?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, we… I think one of the things that scared off some of the other farmers we were trying to work with is that some of them hadn’t vended in DC before so Produce Plus was news to them and I was like “you’re getting free money,” but they were intimidated by it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s fair. So I want to shift a little bit from talking about farmers to talking about the people who are actually using these programs. So how do think Produce Plus at Ward 8’s farmers’ markets effects the food security of customers participating in the program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh I don’t really have the hard data to back it up"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, I’m not asking for it"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:100", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4408643934026517, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, we… I think one of the things that scared off some of the other farmers we were trying to work with is that some of them hadn’t vended in DC before so Produce Plus was news to them and I was like “you’re getting free money,” but they were intimidated by it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s fair. So I want to shift a little bit from talking about farmers to talking about the people who are actually using these programs. So how do think Produce Plus at Ward 8’s farmers’ markets effects the food security of customers participating in the program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh I don’t really have the hard data to back it up"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, I’m not asking for it"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I know, you know, certainly we have a lot of customers who come every single week. Most of them are women, many of them are seniors, people on the nord side of 50, and you know, anecdotally there are specific people I know of who are…who come to the market every week, and when the market’s not open they go to the store and eat stuff that’s not as good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um and what about that effect as it specifically relates to your location here in Ward 8? Let me think about this… I think that is probably true everywhere. When markets are out of season people will go to grocery stores instead, where the food isn’t great. Why is it especially important that you’re doing this work here?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:102", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7120715482251683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh I don’t really have the hard data to back it up"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, I’m not asking for it"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I know, you know, certainly we have a lot of customers who come every single week. Most of them are women, many of them are seniors, people on the nord side of 50, and you know, anecdotally there are specific people I know of who are…who come to the market every week, and when the market’s not open they go to the store and eat stuff that’s not as good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um and what about that effect as it specifically relates to your location here in Ward 8? Let me think about this… I think that is probably true everywhere. When markets are out of season people will go to grocery stores instead, where the food isn’t great. Why is it especially important that you’re doing this work here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think our customers are more price sensitive. And this actually sometimes presents a challenge because we have to make the case to people that the produce we have is better than what’s in the grocery store and worth paying a little bit more for. Sometimes, it’s not always more, but sometimes. Um. You know, I think in more affluent areas local or organic produce is sort of a lifestyle choice, and for people here it’s much more a practical concern. It’s “do you have it, do you not have it, and how much is it going to cost?” You know and then there are obviously things that people are used to eating and know how to cook and then there are things people are not familiar with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like okra. Um do you have, similarly to how we talked about Licking Creek, a specific memory with a customer expressing the impact of the market to you for them? Or with a customer in relation to these incentives and the impact that’s had on them? [long pause]"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:104", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0134128313612982, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I know, you know, certainly we have a lot of customers who come every single week. Most of them are women, many of them are seniors, people on the nord side of 50, and you know, anecdotally there are specific people I know of who are…who come to the market every week, and when the market’s not open they go to the store and eat stuff that’s not as good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um and what about that effect as it specifically relates to your location here in Ward 8? Let me think about this… I think that is probably true everywhere. When markets are out of season people will go to grocery stores instead, where the food isn’t great. Why is it especially important that you’re doing this work here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think our customers are more price sensitive. And this actually sometimes presents a challenge because we have to make the case to people that the produce we have is better than what’s in the grocery store and worth paying a little bit more for. Sometimes, it’s not always more, but sometimes. Um. You know, I think in more affluent areas local or organic produce is sort of a lifestyle choice, and for people here it’s much more a practical concern. It’s “do you have it, do you not have it, and how much is it going to cost?” You know and then there are obviously things that people are used to eating and know how to cook and then there are things people are not familiar with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like okra. Um do you have, similarly to how we talked about Licking Creek, a specific memory with a customer expressing the impact of the market to you for them? Or with a customer in relation to these incentives and the impact that’s had on them? [long pause]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know, I’m drawing a blank right now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea I mean it’s okay to say no if you don’t have one"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:106", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3482364792903314, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think our customers are more price sensitive. And this actually sometimes presents a challenge because we have to make the case to people that the produce we have is better than what’s in the grocery store and worth paying a little bit more for. Sometimes, it’s not always more, but sometimes. Um. You know, I think in more affluent areas local or organic produce is sort of a lifestyle choice, and for people here it’s much more a practical concern. It’s “do you have it, do you not have it, and how much is it going to cost?” You know and then there are obviously things that people are used to eating and know how to cook and then there are things people are not familiar with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like okra. Um do you have, similarly to how we talked about Licking Creek, a specific memory with a customer expressing the impact of the market to you for them? Or with a customer in relation to these incentives and the impact that’s had on them? [long pause]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know, I’m drawing a blank right now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea I mean it’s okay to say no if you don’t have one"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do I just cant remember right now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, well if you think of anything later in relation to any of these questions you can email me and I’ll make sure they’re included. On just like a regular day at market what do interactions with customers receiving vouchers look like?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:108", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.720262754767035, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know, I’m drawing a blank right now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea I mean it’s okay to say no if you don’t have one"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do I just cant remember right now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, well if you think of anything later in relation to any of these questions you can email me and I’ll make sure they’re included. On just like a regular day at market what do interactions with customers receiving vouchers look like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well there’s a line. And when you get to the front of the line you usually hand your ID to one person and your card to another, and the person you give your card to will scan the card on the tablet and go through all of that and the other person would take the name from the ID and copy the name onto the checks. Um. And then uh we give them their checks and sometimes we give them their ID and remind them they have to sign it before they give it to the vendor, we thank them for coming, and tell them to enjoy their vegetables"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it sounds a little bit like, like a business transaction, right?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:110", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.133625283074483, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do I just cant remember right now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, well if you think of anything later in relation to any of these questions you can email me and I’ll make sure they’re included. On just like a regular day at market what do interactions with customers receiving vouchers look like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well there’s a line. And when you get to the front of the line you usually hand your ID to one person and your card to another, and the person you give your card to will scan the card on the tablet and go through all of that and the other person would take the name from the ID and copy the name onto the checks. Um. And then uh we give them their checks and sometimes we give them their ID and remind them they have to sign it before they give it to the vendor, we thank them for coming, and tell them to enjoy their vegetables"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it sounds a little bit like, like a business transaction, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And I wonder if that’s because of the nature of being in a low income community, the line being long, and instead of being able to spend ten minutes talking with someone because they’re the only one there for the program that it manifests that way."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:114", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.103241090215411, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And I wonder if that’s because of the nature of being in a low income community, the line being long, and instead of being able to spend ten minutes talking with someone because they’re the only one there for the program that it manifests that way."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, there’s definitely like the quality of customer service declines in relation to the volume of business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea. Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we need the volume, so we’re not complaining"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, and people need food to eat. So that’s important too. Okay. I’m gonna skip pst some of these. Have you noticed any specific challenges related to incentives like Produce Plus um that customers have anticipated or expressed? Either constraints of the program that don’t work for them or challenges with how thye use them at market"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:116", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.4480456557949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, there’s definitely like the quality of customer service declines in relation to the volume of business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea. Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we need the volume, so we’re not complaining"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, and people need food to eat. So that’s important too. Okay. I’m gonna skip pst some of these. Have you noticed any specific challenges related to incentives like Produce Plus um that customers have anticipated or expressed? Either constraints of the program that don’t work for them or challenges with how thye use them at market"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I know that at some point they put a restraint on how many markets you could go to in a week. And, um, before that we hadn’t realized it but after that we realized that a certain percentage of our people were going to multiple markets. I mean more than two. And they had to stop doing that. But I think people understood, nobody was too angry about it. You can understand why people would want to go to three or four markets, because ten dollars is not enough to feed your family for a week but forty dollars might be. If you go to four different markets. People found the whole procedure for proxy’s to be very confusing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you explain that to me?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:118", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.720050728661, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we need the volume, so we’re not complaining"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, and people need food to eat. So that’s important too. Okay. I’m gonna skip pst some of these. Have you noticed any specific challenges related to incentives like Produce Plus um that customers have anticipated or expressed? Either constraints of the program that don’t work for them or challenges with how thye use them at market"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I know that at some point they put a restraint on how many markets you could go to in a week. And, um, before that we hadn’t realized it but after that we realized that a certain percentage of our people were going to multiple markets. I mean more than two. And they had to stop doing that. But I think people understood, nobody was too angry about it. You can understand why people would want to go to three or four markets, because ten dollars is not enough to feed your family for a week but forty dollars might be. If you go to four different markets. People found the whole procedure for proxy’s to be very confusing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you explain that to me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, because its confusing. [laughs] but basically if you – you were allowed to pick up checks for someone who was not physically able to be there. You were in other words allowed to serve as their proxy. But in order to do that you had to first come to the market with them the first time. And you had to show your ID and they had to show their ID and there was something in the app where you had to indicate that that person was the proxy. And we ended up doing it not the way it was supposed to be done because the way it was supposed to be done was confusing. And you know some people would come with three cards, and “one of these is mine, one of these is my daughter, and one of them is my husband” but they wouldn’t know which one was which. So we would scan them but we would mix up the check numbers with the names, things like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it sounds like you had a pretty good base of volunteers to help you do that?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:122", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.1235194181, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, because its confusing. [laughs] but basically if you – you were allowed to pick up checks for someone who was not physically able to be there. You were in other words allowed to serve as their proxy. But in order to do that you had to first come to the market with them the first time. And you had to show your ID and they had to show their ID and there was something in the app where you had to indicate that that person was the proxy. And we ended up doing it not the way it was supposed to be done because the way it was supposed to be done was confusing. And you know some people would come with three cards, and “one of these is mine, one of these is my daughter, and one of them is my husband” but they wouldn’t know which one was which. So we would scan them but we would mix up the check numbers with the names, things like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it sounds like you had a pretty good base of volunteers to help you do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea. Yea I mean I was there, we had a market assistant who was always there and then we usually had at least one other person who was from the Farmers’ Market Brigade, and a couple of other random volunteers that I had recruited."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So yea it wasn’t really a problem of man-power as it was of the intricacies of the program"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea the administrative"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:124", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.248354909, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea. Yea I mean I was there, we had a market assistant who was always there and then we usually had at least one other person who was from the Farmers’ Market Brigade, and a couple of other random volunteers that I had recruited."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So yea it wasn’t really a problem of man-power as it was of the intricacies of the program"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea the administrative"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean we also had, our hotspot never really worked properly so we were always trying to use the wifi from the school. Which was fine 90% of the time but them it would go down without explanation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that obviously affects the program"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:126", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3870610099999998, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So yea it wasn’t really a problem of man-power as it was of the intricacies of the program"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea the administrative"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean we also had, our hotspot never really worked properly so we were always trying to use the wifi from the school. Which was fine 90% of the time but them it would go down without explanation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that obviously affects the program"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea [laughs]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I guess I kind of starting noting this but as it relates to the resources you have in terms of man power, do you feel like you had the tools and the resources you needed to implement the program?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:128", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5411788999999998, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean we also had, our hotspot never really worked properly so we were always trying to use the wifi from the school. Which was fine 90% of the time but them it would go down without explanation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that obviously affects the program"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea [laughs]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I guess I kind of starting noting this but as it relates to the resources you have in terms of man power, do you feel like you had the tools and the resources you needed to implement the program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, for the most part"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool. Are there ones that would be helpful to you next time around, now that you’ve done it once? Like “This is something that I want to use more next year or invest more time in” or that was kind of a best practice that I want to keep doing"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:130", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7124209999999997, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea [laughs]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I guess I kind of starting noting this but as it relates to the resources you have in terms of man power, do you feel like you had the tools and the resources you needed to implement the program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, for the most part"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool. Are there ones that would be helpful to you next time around, now that you’ve done it once? Like “This is something that I want to use more next year or invest more time in” or that was kind of a best practice that I want to keep doing"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well we did, after a while the lines got to be really relly long we did the thing where we passed out numbers so that people could kind of wander and not have to be in the physical line. And you know, we set up an extra tent with chairs so people could sit in the shade. Um. You know but that means you have to have somebody to pass out the chips with the numbers and you have to keep track of what number youre on. [pause] I think, like I said, we need to get to where the hotspot actually works. I hope that some of the app that you use, all the steps you have to go through, could be streamlined a little bit. Because it was kind of – I mean it didn’t feel like we were really – each step is designed to capture some piece of information but it felt like we were just kind of clicking through these pages because we had to in order to get to the end. Without actually capturing any information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you manage meeting both like that need for customers participating in Produce Plus, and the need to tend to farmers like Licking Creek if they had any assistance that they needed."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:132", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9026899999999998, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, for the most part"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool. Are there ones that would be helpful to you next time around, now that you’ve done it once? Like “This is something that I want to use more next year or invest more time in” or that was kind of a best practice that I want to keep doing"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well we did, after a while the lines got to be really relly long we did the thing where we passed out numbers so that people could kind of wander and not have to be in the physical line. And you know, we set up an extra tent with chairs so people could sit in the shade. Um. You know but that means you have to have somebody to pass out the chips with the numbers and you have to keep track of what number youre on. [pause] I think, like I said, we need to get to where the hotspot actually works. I hope that some of the app that you use, all the steps you have to go through, could be streamlined a little bit. Because it was kind of – I mean it didn’t feel like we were really – each step is designed to capture some piece of information but it felt like we were just kind of clicking through these pages because we had to in order to get to the end. Without actually capturing any information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you manage meeting both like that need for customers participating in Produce Plus, and the need to tend to farmers like Licking Creek if they had any assistance that they needed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea it definitely. Yea I mean there were times when we didn’t have as many volunteers and I was needed at the Produce Plus table and that meant that I was not keeping tabs on the vendors as much as I would like."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a way you mitigated that?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:134", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1140999999999996, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well we did, after a while the lines got to be really relly long we did the thing where we passed out numbers so that people could kind of wander and not have to be in the physical line. And you know, we set up an extra tent with chairs so people could sit in the shade. Um. You know but that means you have to have somebody to pass out the chips with the numbers and you have to keep track of what number youre on. [pause] I think, like I said, we need to get to where the hotspot actually works. I hope that some of the app that you use, all the steps you have to go through, could be streamlined a little bit. Because it was kind of – I mean it didn’t feel like we were really – each step is designed to capture some piece of information but it felt like we were just kind of clicking through these pages because we had to in order to get to the end. Without actually capturing any information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you manage meeting both like that need for customers participating in Produce Plus, and the need to tend to farmers like Licking Creek if they had any assistance that they needed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea it definitely. Yea I mean there were times when we didn’t have as many volunteers and I was needed at the Produce Plus table and that meant that I was not keeping tabs on the vendors as much as I would like."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a way you mitigated that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um. Yea I mean obviously the solution I s just to have more volunteers for Produce Plus. The market assistant we had was a little bit unreliable and would come late a lot so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, is there anything else that you feel is important to know about either relationships with customers participating in produce plus or the farmers you work with that would be helpful in kind of looking at ye those two specific populations in relation to this program for your market."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:136", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3489999999999998, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea it definitely. Yea I mean there were times when we didn’t have as many volunteers and I was needed at the Produce Plus table and that meant that I was not keeping tabs on the vendors as much as I would like."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a way you mitigated that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um. Yea I mean obviously the solution I s just to have more volunteers for Produce Plus. The market assistant we had was a little bit unreliable and would come late a lot so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, is there anything else that you feel is important to know about either relationships with customers participating in produce plus or the farmers you work with that would be helpful in kind of looking at ye those two specific populations in relation to this program for your market."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[pause] No I think I pretty much covered it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright well if you think of anything you can feel free to email me and if I have an additional question as I’m reading back through this can I reach out?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:142", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yea, probably the biggest – I was just working on an application before you came – and one of the questions was “what challenges has your organization faced?” I wrote that our biggest challenge was finding funding. You would think it would be easy because farmer’s markets are in-style and trendy and you know people want to fund them. But surprisingly, most of our applications have not been successful. Um, part of that is because I’m not a professional grant writer and neither are the volunteers that help with them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we’re competing against organizations that do employ professional grant writers. But I also think that there is this desire on the part of funders to do something new and sexy. So if we say “we’ve already been doing this for eighteen years and we’re going to continue doing it because it works, they don’t want to fund that. They want to fund something with a new twist. And so Arcadia for example with the mobile market, I mean people really like that idea, and that’s nothing against them. But funders also seem to be really gung ho on urban farming and subsidizing – not just bringing in rural farmers and subsidizing the produce on the customer end but also subsidizing funding and subsidizing the production of food and employing people to do that. And so that’s why we decided to launch the school garden program. Well, one thing we noticed was that younger people weren’t coming to the market to buy vegetables. Then we need to start with them when they’re young and get them juiced – no pun intended – about fruits and vegetables. But we also, we thought that if – well they’d be more likely to fund the market manager position if the market manager is also leading a school garden program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that seems to have"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00003:146", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we’re competing against organizations that do employ professional grant writers. But I also think that there is this desire on the part of funders to do something new and sexy. So if we say “we’ve already been doing this for eighteen years and we’re going to continue doing it because it works, they don’t want to fund that. They want to fund something with a new twist. And so Arcadia for example with the mobile market, I mean people really like that idea, and that’s nothing against them. But funders also seem to be really gung ho on urban farming and subsidizing – not just bringing in rural farmers and subsidizing the produce on the customer end but also subsidizing funding and subsidizing the production of food and employing people to do that. And so that’s why we decided to launch the school garden program. Well, one thing we noticed was that younger people weren’t coming to the market to buy vegetables. Then we need to start with them when they’re young and get them juiced – no pun intended – about fruits and vegetables. But we also, we thought that if – well they’d be more likely to fund the market manager position if the market manager is also leading a school garden program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that seems to have"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That seems to have worked, yea. So we may, we’re definitely going to try to continue that and may even try to expand it. Um there are a couple of other schools in Ward 8 that have garden programs. Their gardens are struggling because their teachers don’t really have the time or the energy, they’re swamped with the rest of the job. So we feel like it’s a really good opportunity to have an outside partner organization – in this case Ward 8 Farmers’ Market – basically run that garden. And all the school has to do is tell us when to come, when to make the kids available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yea, cool, alright. Well"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But even that can be a challenge for the schools because"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They have a lot going on"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.430527945384461, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it's the clinical room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "at Wakiso Health Center IV. Tell me about yourself; age."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am..., a Clinical Officer, and am 30 years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, tell me about your qualifications and where you trained from."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I trained from St Elizabeth School of Health Sciences, Mukono, where I attained a Diploma in Clinical Medicine and Public health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when was that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.8116977170938457, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am..., a Clinical Officer, and am 30 years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, tell me about your qualifications and where you trained from."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I trained from St Elizabeth School of Health Sciences, Mukono, where I attained a Diploma in Clinical Medicine and Public health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "2016."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so how long have you been qualified?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1241085745487176, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I trained from St Elizabeth School of Health Sciences, Mukono, where I attained a Diploma in Clinical Medicine and Public health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "2016."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so how long have you been qualified?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it's now two and half years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and how long have you been working here at Wakiso Health Center IV?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.471231749498575, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "2016."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so how long have you been qualified?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it's now two and half years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and how long have you been working here at Wakiso Health Center IV?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "after I’ve been doing my internship for two and half years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you have been doing internship, so which means you do internship beyond one year!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.745813054998417, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it's now two and half years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and how long have you been working here at Wakiso Health Center IV?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "after I’ve been doing my internship for two and half years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you have been doing internship, so which means you do internship beyond one year!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, it's upon you, but it's approximately six months. But for me I asked for an extension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so which means you have been working here at Wakiso Health Center IV for two and a half years?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0509033944426855, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "after I’ve been doing my internship for two and half years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you have been doing internship, so which means you do internship beyond one year!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, it's upon you, but it's approximately six months. But for me I asked for an extension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so which means you have been working here at Wakiso Health Center IV for two and a half years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so tell me about the demographics of the patients in your practice and what are the common illnesses you treat here at Wakiso?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.389892660491873, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, it's upon you, but it's approximately six months. But for me I asked for an extension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so which means you have been working here at Wakiso Health Center IV for two and a half years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so tell me about the demographics of the patients in your practice and what are the common illnesses you treat here at Wakiso?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually we receive a lot of patients; we receive around 200 patients, all children and adults with different conditions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "different conditions like?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.7665474005465254, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so tell me about the demographics of the patients in your practice and what are the common illnesses you treat here at Wakiso?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually we receive a lot of patients; we receive around 200 patients, all children and adults with different conditions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "different conditions like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the upper respiratory tract infections, malaria, hypertension, diabetic patients, HIV, those ones of UTI's."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what are the common age groups of the patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.073941556162806, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually we receive a lot of patients; we receive around 200 patients, all children and adults with different conditions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "different conditions like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the upper respiratory tract infections, malaria, hypertension, diabetic patients, HIV, those ones of UTI's."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what are the common age groups of the patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I will not say there are common age groups but we see almost all patients from 0 up to around 85+"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is it like these elements cut across the age groups, or there are some elements which are more particular, for example those below five?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1932683957364512, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the upper respiratory tract infections, malaria, hypertension, diabetic patients, HIV, those ones of UTI's."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what are the common age groups of the patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I will not say there are common age groups but we see almost all patients from 0 up to around 85+"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is it like these elements cut across the age groups, or there are some elements which are more particular, for example those below five?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For those below five, its most commonly with RTI's and malaria, and then from five years to thirty, UTI's and the malaria. Then 35+ you find them hypertensive, some are diabetic and some of them have heart problems especially the hypertensive patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me about your training on Rheumatic Heart Disease; have you received any specific training during school about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3258537730405013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I will not say there are common age groups but we see almost all patients from 0 up to around 85+"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is it like these elements cut across the age groups, or there are some elements which are more particular, for example those below five?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For those below five, its most commonly with RTI's and malaria, and then from five years to thirty, UTI's and the malaria. Then 35+ you find them hypertensive, some are diabetic and some of them have heart problems especially the hypertensive patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me about your training on Rheumatic Heart Disease; have you received any specific training during school about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, just when I was in class but there was not any actual training that was done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but in class, did they teach about RHD as a course or as one of those conditions that patients usually come with?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4731708589338903, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For those below five, its most commonly with RTI's and malaria, and then from five years to thirty, UTI's and the malaria. Then 35+ you find them hypertensive, some are diabetic and some of them have heart problems especially the hypertensive patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me about your training on Rheumatic Heart Disease; have you received any specific training during school about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, just when I was in class but there was not any actual training that was done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but in class, did they teach about RHD as a course or as one of those conditions that patients usually come with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "um it was just a lecture about Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "it was just a lecture, like a one off lecture?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6368565099265449, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, just when I was in class but there was not any actual training that was done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but in class, did they teach about RHD as a course or as one of those conditions that patients usually come with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "um it was just a lecture about Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "it was just a lecture, like a one off lecture?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so have you received any training about Rheumatic Heart Disease since you qualified in 2016?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8187294554739386, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "um it was just a lecture about Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "it was just a lecture, like a one off lecture?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so have you received any training about Rheumatic Heart Disease since you qualified in 2016?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you have not received any training, since your graduation!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.020810506082154, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so have you received any training about Rheumatic Heart Disease since you qualified in 2016?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you have not received any training, since your graduation!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how many patients of Rheumatic Heart Disease do you often see here, maybe in a day, week or a month?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.1342338956468376, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you have not received any training, since your graduation!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how many patients of Rheumatic Heart Disease do you often see here, maybe in a day, week or a month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a day we may not see any but patients we find hypertensive are like three. There are some we get and we refer. Others when their sugars are high, we basically send them to Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so how many do you often see sometime maybe in a week or in a month?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.14914877294093082, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how many patients of Rheumatic Heart Disease do you often see here, maybe in a day, week or a month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a day we may not see any but patients we find hypertensive are like three. There are some we get and we refer. Others when their sugars are high, we basically send them to Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so how many do you often see sometime maybe in a week or in a month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in a month we can get like one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so are these patients usually out-patients or in-patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.16572085882325646, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a day we may not see any but patients we find hypertensive are like three. There are some we get and we refer. Others when their sugars are high, we basically send them to Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so how many do you often see sometime maybe in a week or in a month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in a month we can get like one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so are these patients usually out-patients or in-patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are out-patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they are out-patients, do you have an in-patient unit here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.18413428758139608, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "in a month we can get like one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so are these patients usually out-patients or in-patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are out-patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they are out-patients, do you have an in-patient unit here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah. So unless those ones who come and are in critical conditions, we admit. We can make them, give referral treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so they come in here, you admit them give them and give the care they need, then after you refer them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.20459365286821787, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are out-patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they are out-patients, do you have an in-patient unit here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah. So unless those ones who come and are in critical conditions, we admit. We can make them, give referral treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so they come in here, you admit them give them and give the care they need, then after you refer them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So now, you as an individual, tell me; what's your understanding of the causes of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22732628096468652, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah. So unless those ones who come and are in critical conditions, we admit. We can make them, give referral treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so they come in here, you admit them give them and give the care they need, then after you refer them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So now, you as an individual, tell me; what's your understanding of the causes of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To me it is basically patients who have uncontrolled blood pressures, actually they poorly take their medications and their BPs have failed to be controlled, and those ones who are diabetic. They irregularly take their drugs or miss and sometimes when they come to the facility, by the time you check their sugar levels they are high. So you put them on treatments and when they feel better, they go back and relax."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of treatment do you usually put them on?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25258475662742946, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So now, you as an individual, tell me; what's your understanding of the causes of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To me it is basically patients who have uncontrolled blood pressures, actually they poorly take their medications and their BPs have failed to be controlled, and those ones who are diabetic. They irregularly take their drugs or miss and sometimes when they come to the facility, by the time you check their sugar levels they are high. So you put them on treatments and when they feel better, they go back and relax."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of treatment do you usually put them on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "probably, for the DM patients, their sugars are high and they have been on oral treatments and if the orals have not worked, we subject with insulin. And if the sugars have failed to stabilize, then we can refer them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Um, as a health worker, are you aware of the link between a sore throat and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28064972958603274, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To me it is basically patients who have uncontrolled blood pressures, actually they poorly take their medications and their BPs have failed to be controlled, and those ones who are diabetic. They irregularly take their drugs or miss and sometimes when they come to the facility, by the time you check their sugar levels they are high. So you put them on treatments and when they feel better, they go back and relax."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of treatment do you usually put them on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "probably, for the DM patients, their sugars are high and they have been on oral treatments and if the orals have not worked, we subject with insulin. And if the sugars have failed to stabilize, then we can refer them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Um, as a health worker, are you aware of the link between a sore throat and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As a health worker, are you aware of the link between a sore throat and Rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3118330328733697, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "probably, for the DM patients, their sugars are high and they have been on oral treatments and if the orals have not worked, we subject with insulin. And if the sugars have failed to stabilize, then we can refer them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Um, as a health worker, are you aware of the link between a sore throat and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As a health worker, are you aware of the link between a sore throat and Rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A sore throat to my understanding, it could be maybe an ulcer in the throat and the Rheumatic disease could be possibly because of high blood pressure, or then failure of blood vessels where they actually become narrow and the failure to supply blood to the delicate organs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So according to you, the link between a sore throat, it's an ulcer, and then RHD is where the hypertension comes in!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34648114763707744, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As a health worker, are you aware of the link between a sore throat and Rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A sore throat to my understanding, it could be maybe an ulcer in the throat and the Rheumatic disease could be possibly because of high blood pressure, or then failure of blood vessels where they actually become narrow and the failure to supply blood to the delicate organs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So according to you, the link between a sore throat, it's an ulcer, and then RHD is where the hypertension comes in!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you think there is a link between the two?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38497905293008605, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A sore throat to my understanding, it could be maybe an ulcer in the throat and the Rheumatic disease could be possibly because of high blood pressure, or then failure of blood vessels where they actually become narrow and the failure to supply blood to the delicate organs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So according to you, the link between a sore throat, it's an ulcer, and then RHD is where the hypertension comes in!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you think there is a link between the two?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and what do you think that link is?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4277545032556512, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you think there is a link between the two?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and what do you think that link is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, maybe she can tell you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I will tell you later. Now for example in class you had one unit about Rheumatic heart disease, so what were you taught can be done to prevent rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47528278139516794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and what do you think that link is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, maybe she can tell you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I will tell you later. Now for example in class you had one unit about Rheumatic heart disease, so what were you taught can be done to prevent rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "possibly caring for those hypertensive patients to avoid other causes like heart failures."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so we are talking about the treatment of hypertension!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5280919793279644, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, maybe she can tell you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I will tell you later. Now for example in class you had one unit about Rheumatic heart disease, so what were you taught can be done to prevent rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "possibly caring for those hypertensive patients to avoid other causes like heart failures."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so we are talking about the treatment of hypertension!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that is prevention, how were you taught to treat RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5867688659199604, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "possibly caring for those hypertensive patients to avoid other causes like heart failures."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so we are talking about the treatment of hypertension!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that is prevention, how were you taught to treat RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "treating!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so we were talking about the treatment; what do you think is the treatment for RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6519654065777337, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that is prevention, how were you taught to treat RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "treating!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so we were talking about the treatment; what do you think is the treatment for RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, to me the treatment for RHD could be when you treat the cause then you are trying to stop RHD, probably the hypertensive urgencies; when you treat them, then you are preventing RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, are there any aspects of RHD management in which you think you need more training?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.724406007308593, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "treating!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so we were talking about the treatment; what do you think is the treatment for RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, to me the treatment for RHD could be when you treat the cause then you are trying to stop RHD, probably the hypertensive urgencies; when you treat them, then you are preventing RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, are there any aspects of RHD management in which you think you need more training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, possibly the whole course."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the whole course! Be specific, like?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8048955636762144, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, to me the treatment for RHD could be when you treat the cause then you are trying to stop RHD, probably the hypertensive urgencies; when you treat them, then you are preventing RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, are there any aspects of RHD management in which you think you need more training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, possibly the whole course."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the whole course! Be specific, like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "managing those conditions especially Rheumatic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what aspects?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8943284040846826, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, possibly the whole course."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the whole course! Be specific, like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "managing those conditions especially Rheumatic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what aspects?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for the hypertensive, that I can manage, but when it comes to the chronic, I don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so according to you, you feel that you need to study about the whole course and not just RHD management!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9936982267607585, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "managing those conditions especially Rheumatic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what aspects?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for the hypertensive, that I can manage, but when it comes to the chronic, I don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so according to you, you feel that you need to study about the whole course and not just RHD management!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so as a health worker what is your understanding about the long term prognosis of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1041091408452872, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "for the hypertensive, that I can manage, but when it comes to the chronic, I don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so according to you, you feel that you need to study about the whole course and not just RHD management!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so as a health worker what is your understanding about the long term prognosis of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the prognosis is that they are put on late treatment and the care that those patients are given, the prognosis may be good but if the care is not good and the treatments, then the prognosis is poor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so which means that the long term prognosis will be depending on?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.2267879342725414, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so as a health worker what is your understanding about the long term prognosis of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the prognosis is that they are put on late treatment and the care that those patients are given, the prognosis may be good but if the care is not good and the treatments, then the prognosis is poor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so which means that the long term prognosis will be depending on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the treatment and the care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. So tell me about your encounters with patients of RHD; tell me how the last time you saw a patient with rheumatic heart disease was? Who was the last patient you saw of RHD and how do they present themselves? How was that visit?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25198659363615705, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the prognosis is that they are put on late treatment and the care that those patients are given, the prognosis may be good but if the care is not good and the treatments, then the prognosis is poor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so which means that the long term prognosis will be depending on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the treatment and the care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. So tell me about your encounters with patients of RHD; tell me how the last time you saw a patient with rheumatic heart disease was? Who was the last patient you saw of RHD and how do they present themselves? How was that visit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually I have ever seen one patient and, it was HT clinic. It was in 2017 and he was having difficulty in breathing, tachypnea and tachycardia. He was over-sweating and his BP was high."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "his BP were high!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3110945600446383, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually I have ever seen one patient and, it was HT clinic. It was in 2017 and he was having difficulty in breathing, tachypnea and tachycardia. He was over-sweating and his BP was high."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "his BP were high!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually they could just refer that patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you just referred the patient! Was the patient an out-patient or in-patient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3456606222718203, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually they could just refer that patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you just referred the patient! Was the patient an out-patient or in-patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "was an out-patient. Actually we were treating the patient before but it was an on and off treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what were you treating before?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38406735807980036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually they could just refer that patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you just referred the patient! Was the patient an out-patient or in-patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "was an out-patient. Actually we were treating the patient before but it was an on and off treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what were you treating before?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "hypertension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you were treating hypertension!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.42674150897755597, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "was an out-patient. Actually we were treating the patient before but it was an on and off treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what were you treating before?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "hypertension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you were treating hypertension!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "not RHD as such?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4741572321972844, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "hypertension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you were treating hypertension!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "not RHD as such?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what is the average age of the RHD patients that you see here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5268413691080938, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "not RHD as such?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what is the average age of the RHD patients that you see here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "65+"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "65 and above! Are they either working or not? Are they in school or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.585379299008993, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what is the average age of the RHD patients that you see here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "65+"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "65 and above! Are they either working or not? Are they in school or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "not working."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they are not working! Okay, so which means they are 65 and above and not working!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6504214433433255, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "65+"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "65 and above! Are they either working or not? Are they in school or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "not working."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they are not working! Okay, so which means they are 65 and above and not working!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why is it that they are not working? Is it the disease process? Is it because of the age?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.722690492603695, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "not working."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they are not working! Okay, so which means they are 65 and above and not working!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why is it that they are not working? Is it the disease process? Is it because of the age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some are saying age and others don't have work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you think those patients are generally aware of a link between a sore throat, Acute Rheumatic Fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8029894362263278, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why is it that they are not working? Is it the disease process? Is it because of the age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some are saying age and others don't have work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you think those patients are generally aware of a link between a sore throat, Acute Rheumatic Fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, why do you think that they are not aware?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8922104846959198, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "some are saying age and others don't have work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you think those patients are generally aware of a link between a sore throat, Acute Rheumatic Fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, why do you think that they are not aware?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because they have not been informed and not educated about it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "about the disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9913449829954664, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, why do you think that they are not aware?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because they have not been informed and not educated about it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "about the disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so according to you, you feel that the patients are not aware!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2238826950561312, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so according to you, you feel that the patients are not aware!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "at least unless they can get CMEs, health talks and education and other health studies."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what sort of symptoms do those patients of RHD describe?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5109662901927545, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "at least unless they can get CMEs, health talks and education and other health studies."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what sort of symptoms do those patients of RHD describe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "fatigue, then the palpitations, swelling of the lower and upper limbs and the varicose veins."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so are those patients usually good about follow-ups and adherence to treatment or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.678851433547505, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "fatigue, then the palpitations, swelling of the lower and upper limbs and the varicose veins."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so are those patients usually good about follow-ups and adherence to treatment or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are those patients, now like for example that one who came to the clinic, do they usually come for follow- up and do they adhere to their treatment?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.86539048171945, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so are those patients usually good about follow-ups and adherence to treatment or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are those patients, now like for example that one who came to the clinic, do they usually come for follow- up and do they adhere to their treatment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no. When they get better or when they feel fine, they don't come back. So they only come back when they get problems. That’s when they come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you are trying to say that the when the symptoms re-surface that's when they come back!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0726560907993887, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are those patients, now like for example that one who came to the clinic, do they usually come for follow- up and do they adhere to their treatment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no. When they get better or when they feel fine, they don't come back. So they only come back when they get problems. That’s when they come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you are trying to say that the when the symptoms re-surface that's when they come back!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "anything else why they don't come back for follow-ups?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3029512119993205, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no. When they get better or when they feel fine, they don't come back. So they only come back when they get problems. That’s when they come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you are trying to say that the when the symptoms re-surface that's when they come back!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "anything else why they don't come back for follow-ups?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not sure but to me that's what I think, because we only see them when they have a problem, but if they don’t ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they don't come! So as a health worker, what sort of barriers do those patients commonly face or state to get the care they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.558834679999245, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "anything else why they don't come back for follow-ups?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not sure but to me that's what I think, because we only see them when they have a problem, but if they don’t ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they don't come! So as a health worker, what sort of barriers do those patients commonly face or state to get the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the distances they travel; the health facility is far from their homes, but then when they come, there are no drugs. So you prescribe and they go and buy. So drugs become a problem because what they stock is not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you are saying that some of them have issues of transport! You said that they stay very far from the health facility!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8431496444436055, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not sure but to me that's what I think, because we only see them when they have a problem, but if they don’t ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they don't come! So as a health worker, what sort of barriers do those patients commonly face or state to get the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the distances they travel; the health facility is far from their homes, but then when they come, there are no drugs. So you prescribe and they go and buy. So drugs become a problem because what they stock is not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you are saying that some of them have issues of transport! You said that they stay very far from the health facility!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and then the issue of drugs!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.159055160492895, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the distances they travel; the health facility is far from their homes, but then when they come, there are no drugs. So you prescribe and they go and buy. So drugs become a problem because what they stock is not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you are saying that some of them have issues of transport! You said that they stay very far from the health facility!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and then the issue of drugs!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes. Someone says that I will go and then they write for me but I don't have money to buy the drugs, then they come here when the condition is worse."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what sort of barriers do you perceive they face in getting the care they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5100612894365497, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and then the issue of drugs!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes. Someone says that I will go and then they write for me but I don't have money to buy the drugs, then they come here when the condition is worse."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what sort of barriers do you perceive they face in getting the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I beg your pardon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "according to you as a health worker, what do you perceive these patients face in getting the care they need, as a health worker?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.11118677708216, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I beg your pardon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "according to you as a health worker, what do you perceive these patients face in getting the care they need, as a health worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "to me, I think the inadequacy of drugs that they stock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is what I think, maybe even the health workers to see the patients are not enough because you might find that one clinician or doctor sits here from morning to around evening and yet the patients are many. So you find yourself tired, and the patients over-wait, then they get tired and then someone goes away."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so the patients over-wait to see the clinician and the doctors!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.345763085646844, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "to me, I think the inadequacy of drugs that they stock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is what I think, maybe even the health workers to see the patients are not enough because you might find that one clinician or doctor sits here from morning to around evening and yet the patients are many. So you find yourself tired, and the patients over-wait, then they get tired and then someone goes away."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so the patients over-wait to see the clinician and the doctors!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so they get tired and go!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.606403428496493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is what I think, maybe even the health workers to see the patients are not enough because you might find that one clinician or doctor sits here from morning to around evening and yet the patients are many. So you find yourself tired, and the patients over-wait, then they get tired and then someone goes away."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so the patients over-wait to see the clinician and the doctors!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so they get tired and go!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some are sent to the lab and they delay there; they spend a lot of time there because not only one patient is worked on. So someone gets tired from the lab and then just goes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so when they tired from the lab, they don't come back to you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.896003809440548, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so they get tired and go!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some are sent to the lab and they delay there; they spend a lot of time there because not only one patient is worked on. So someone gets tired from the lab and then just goes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so when they tired from the lab, they don't come back to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so let's look at the local system barriers. For example, now we are talking about Wakiso district, right from the district then to the hospital. So when we talk about administration and leadership to the district, what are the kinds of barriers that affect your work as a health worker, administration-wise and leadership-wise at the district?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.464202233877219, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so let's look at the local system barriers. For example, now we are talking about Wakiso district, right from the district then to the hospital. So when we talk about administration and leadership to the district, what are the kinds of barriers that affect your work as a health worker, administration-wise and leadership-wise at the district?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "with communication, there is a gap."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "at times there are things that happen, or they say that there will be a meeting and then they inform you that there is a meeting tomorrow, so they inform you today or you just see when they have lined up with the staff an urgent staff meeting,. So some may be off and then they will just miss. Possibly me I think there is a communication gap."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "administration-wise; what are some of the barriers that hinder you? Because now we want to find out the enablers, and barriers that hinder a health worker to do your work Administration-wise and leadership-wise. Do you think communication is only the issue?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6268913709746877, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "with communication, there is a gap."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "at times there are things that happen, or they say that there will be a meeting and then they inform you that there is a meeting tomorrow, so they inform you today or you just see when they have lined up with the staff an urgent staff meeting,. So some may be off and then they will just miss. Possibly me I think there is a communication gap."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "administration-wise; what are some of the barriers that hinder you? Because now we want to find out the enablers, and barriers that hinder a health worker to do your work Administration-wise and leadership-wise. Do you think communication is only the issue?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and possibly the supplies of drugs, because when they come to the district it takes long; they may take like a week or weeks when they have not supplied the facility and yet when these patients see that the vehicle has gone to the district, they think drugs are supplied. So you will see them in big numbers and when you don't give them drugs, they say that you take them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they say that you take the drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8076570788607642, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "at times there are things that happen, or they say that there will be a meeting and then they inform you that there is a meeting tomorrow, so they inform you today or you just see when they have lined up with the staff an urgent staff meeting,. So some may be off and then they will just miss. Possibly me I think there is a communication gap."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "administration-wise; what are some of the barriers that hinder you? Because now we want to find out the enablers, and barriers that hinder a health worker to do your work Administration-wise and leadership-wise. Do you think communication is only the issue?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and possibly the supplies of drugs, because when they come to the district it takes long; they may take like a week or weeks when they have not supplied the facility and yet when these patients see that the vehicle has gone to the district, they think drugs are supplied. So you will see them in big numbers and when you don't give them drugs, they say that you take them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they say that you take the drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so which means that you’re saying that when they see that truck, is it a truck?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.008507865400849, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and possibly the supplies of drugs, because when they come to the district it takes long; they may take like a week or weeks when they have not supplied the facility and yet when these patients see that the vehicle has gone to the district, they think drugs are supplied. So you will see them in big numbers and when you don't give them drugs, they say that you take them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they say that you take the drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so which means that you’re saying that when they see that truck, is it a truck?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, the truck"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the truck of ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.231675406000943, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so which means that you’re saying that when they see that truck, is it a truck?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, the truck"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the truck of ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the medicines, because they offload first at the district and then the district supplies, so the supplies take time from the district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "to reach here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.479639340001048, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, the truck"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the truck of ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the medicines, because they offload first at the district and then the district supplies, so the supplies take time from the district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "to reach here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so which means that when the patients see those, like you said earlier, they presume medicines have come!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7551548222233864, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the medicines, because they offload first at the district and then the district supplies, so the supplies take time from the district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "to reach here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so which means that when the patients see those, like you said earlier, they presume medicines have come!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and then you will see them in big numbers, so when they come and someone goes without drugs, they say that you haven't given them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so here at Wakiso Health Center IV, what are some of the local health system barriers to funding for health care in general or RHD in particular? Are you aware of any?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0612831358037624, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so which means that when the patients see those, like you said earlier, they presume medicines have come!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and then you will see them in big numbers, so when they come and someone goes without drugs, they say that you haven't given them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so here at Wakiso Health Center IV, what are some of the local health system barriers to funding for health care in general or RHD in particular? Are you aware of any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you know anything about funding for the Health Center IV."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.853611983269907, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you don't?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually the funding, what I know is about PHC."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "PHC, that one the in charge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that is PHC. What is PHC?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0595688702998967, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually the funding, what I know is about PHC."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "PHC, that one the in charge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that is PHC. What is PHC?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "those are the funds that are for the facility, like cleaning, preparing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay tell me about the health workers; how are the numbers? What are the numbers of the health workers and their qualifications, and the barriers, as in; waiting time and the quality of care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2884098558887738, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "PHC, that one the in charge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that is PHC. What is PHC?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "those are the funds that are for the facility, like cleaning, preparing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay tell me about the health workers; how are the numbers? What are the numbers of the health workers and their qualifications, and the barriers, as in; waiting time and the quality of care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "possibly we have the nursing assistants or the nursing officers, the midwives, we have the clinical officers, and the theatre assistant, and the nurse but we don't have a psychiatric personnel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about the doctors?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.542677617654193, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "those are the funds that are for the facility, like cleaning, preparing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay tell me about the health workers; how are the numbers? What are the numbers of the health workers and their qualifications, and the barriers, as in; waiting time and the quality of care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "possibly we have the nursing assistants or the nursing officers, the midwives, we have the clinical officers, and the theatre assistant, and the nurse but we don't have a psychiatric personnel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about the doctors?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like how many?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.714086241837992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "possibly we have the nursing assistants or the nursing officers, the midwives, we have the clinical officers, and the theatre assistant, and the nurse but we don't have a psychiatric personnel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about the doctors?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like how many?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so according to you, are the health worker numbers enough?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9045402687088802, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like how many?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so according to you, are the health worker numbers enough?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are not depending on the patients we receive because you may find on duty, there is one clinical officer and one nurse, so the nurse is supposed to be here at OPD, then the in-patient and even at the in-patient wards."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you’re saying that the nurse, on a shift you can have one clinical officer and one nurse!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.116155854120978, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so according to you, are the health worker numbers enough?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are not depending on the patients we receive because you may find on duty, there is one clinical officer and one nurse, so the nurse is supposed to be here at OPD, then the in-patient and even at the in-patient wards."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you’re saying that the nurse, on a shift you can have one clinical officer and one nurse!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and the nurse is attending to OPD and in-patients and theatre!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.351284282356642, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are not depending on the patients we receive because you may find on duty, there is one clinical officer and one nurse, so the nurse is supposed to be here at OPD, then the in-patient and even at the in-patient wards."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you’re saying that the nurse, on a shift you can have one clinical officer and one nurse!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and the nurse is attending to OPD and in-patients and theatre!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, in the theatre there is a theatre assistant and the nurse. So what happens, those midwives sometimes help out in the theatre? When it comes to OPD and in-patient, you find one nurse on duty?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so according to you, are those numbers enough or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.61253809150738, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and the nurse is attending to OPD and in-patients and theatre!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, in the theatre there is a theatre assistant and the nurse. So what happens, those midwives sometimes help out in the theatre? When it comes to OPD and in-patient, you find one nurse on duty?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so according to you, are those numbers enough or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what about the wait times, how long does a patient wait?\n\nthe waiting is not much, so it is dependent; if you have gone to the laboratory, it depends on the tests requested because there are some patients we see clinically, then they go to the table outside. After getting the number, they go to the dispensary and get drugs and then go. So it's dependent on the request you have made in the laboratory and how you see the patient.\n\nwhat about quality of care."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.902820101674867, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, in the theatre there is a theatre assistant and the nurse. So what happens, those midwives sometimes help out in the theatre? When it comes to OPD and in-patient, you find one nurse on duty?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so according to you, are those numbers enough or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what about the wait times, how long does a patient wait?\n\nthe waiting is not much, so it is dependent; if you have gone to the laboratory, it depends on the tests requested because there are some patients we see clinically, then they go to the table outside. After getting the number, they go to the dispensary and get drugs and then go. So it's dependent on the request you have made in the laboratory and how you see the patient.\n\nwhat about quality of care."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it is not bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why is it not bad? How do you quantify that it has not been bad?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2253556685276297, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what about the wait times, how long does a patient wait?\n\nthe waiting is not much, so it is dependent; if you have gone to the laboratory, it depends on the tests requested because there are some patients we see clinically, then they go to the table outside. After getting the number, they go to the dispensary and get drugs and then go. So it's dependent on the request you have made in the laboratory and how you see the patient.\n\nwhat about quality of care."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it is not bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why is it not bad? How do you quantify that it has not been bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because you may see a patient and he or she tells you what, her problem is and then you treat accordingly. So I may say it's good and then you ask the patient and he says that it's bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so the health workers; are they all qualified to provide care in this healthy facility?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.5837285205862552, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it is not bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why is it not bad? How do you quantify that it has not been bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because you may see a patient and he or she tells you what, her problem is and then you treat accordingly. So I may say it's good and then you ask the patient and he says that it's bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so the health workers; are they all qualified to provide care in this healthy facility?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so tell me about the medications in regards to RHD; do you have enough drugs for example Benzathine Penicillins, anti-coagulant drugs and heart failure drugs? Do you have all those drugs around?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.870809467318061, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "because you may see a patient and he or she tells you what, her problem is and then you treat accordingly. So I may say it's good and then you ask the patient and he says that it's bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so the health workers; are they all qualified to provide care in this healthy facility?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so tell me about the medications in regards to RHD; do you have enough drugs for example Benzathine Penicillins, anti-coagulant drugs and heart failure drugs? Do you have all those drugs around?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the Penicillins are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like which Penicillins specifically?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9675660747978457, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so tell me about the medications in regards to RHD; do you have enough drugs for example Benzathine Penicillins, anti-coagulant drugs and heart failure drugs? Do you have all those drugs around?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the Penicillins are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like which Penicillins specifically?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Amoxicillin, Penicillins, Ampicillins."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about Benzathine?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0750734164420508, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the Penicillins are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "like which Penicillins specifically?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Amoxicillin, Penicillins, Ampicillins."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about Benzathine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it's there, but when they bring, they are few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they bring few! Like how many and for which duration?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3272511314099391, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it's there, but when they bring, they are few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they bring few! Like how many and for which duration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because they bring every quarter, in a quarter they supply around 6000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "6000 vials!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and the patients we receive actually in a month are 1000 plus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the patients you receive in a month?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4747234793443769, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "because they bring every quarter, in a quarter they supply around 6000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "6000 vials!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and the patients we receive actually in a month are 1000 plus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the patients you receive in a month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are telling me about the medications; you are telling me that for a quarter, they need like how many vials?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6385816437159744, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and the patients we receive actually in a month are 1000 plus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the patients you receive in a month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are telling me about the medications; you are telling me that for a quarter, they need like how many vials?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "6000 and yet the numbers we receive are many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the numbers of?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.820646270795527, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are telling me about the medications; you are telling me that for a quarter, they need like how many vials?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "6000 and yet the numbers we receive are many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the numbers of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "as in the numbers of patients. And those ones we put on Penicillins are especially the children. So you may find that the ratio of drugs to patients is less."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so does that still work for Benzathine penicillin?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.022940300883919, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "6000 and yet the numbers we receive are many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the numbers of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "as in the numbers of patients. And those ones we put on Penicillins are especially the children. So you may find that the ratio of drugs to patients is less."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so does that still work for Benzathine penicillin?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, what they stock is not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what about the anti-coagulants drugs, the warfarin and heart failure drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2477114454265763, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "as in the numbers of patients. And those ones we put on Penicillins are especially the children. So you may find that the ratio of drugs to patients is less."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so does that still work for Benzathine penicillin?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, what they stock is not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what about the anti-coagulants drugs, the warfarin and heart failure drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they don't stock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they don't stick them!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4974571615850847, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, what they stock is not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what about the anti-coagulants drugs, the warfarin and heart failure drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they don't stock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they don't stick them!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the anti-coagulants."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but do you get patients who need them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.774952401761205, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they don't stock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "they don't stick them!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the anti-coagulants."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but do you get patients who need them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, especially those ones who are on DVTs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "about diagnostics; what kind of diagnostics do you have here in the health facility or what kind of diagnostics do you do?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.083280446401339, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the anti-coagulants."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but do you get patients who need them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, especially those ones who are on DVTs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "about diagnostics; what kind of diagnostics do you have here in the health facility or what kind of diagnostics do you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have the chemistry tests, the RFDs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any others? Like ecocardiography, do you do them here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4258671626681543, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, especially those ones who are on DVTs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "about diagnostics; what kind of diagnostics do you have here in the health facility or what kind of diagnostics do you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have the chemistry tests, the RFDs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any others? Like ecocardiography, do you do them here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, we don’t. It’s only chemistry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "only labs that you do!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8065190696312823, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have the chemistry tests, the RFDs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any others? Like ecocardiography, do you do them here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, we don’t. It’s only chemistry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "only labs that you do!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so the other diagnosis like X-ray, ecocardiography, those ones?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.229465632923647, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, we don’t. It’s only chemistry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "only labs that you do!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so the other diagnosis like X-ray, ecocardiography, those ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we send them out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you send the patients to be done from out."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.699406258804052, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so the other diagnosis like X-ray, ecocardiography, those ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we send them out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you send the patients to be done from out."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me about health care information in the health facility."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.221562509782279, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we send them out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you send the patients to be done from out."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me about health care information in the health facility."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "health information and medical records systems here; how are your medical records? Tell me about the registrars and how you store your patients' information here at the facility."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.579513899758088, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me about health care information in the health facility."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "health information and medical records systems here; how are your medical records? Tell me about the registrars and how you store your patients' information here at the facility."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have HMIS book registers especially at the OPD and the dispensary. Actually every department has registers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is HMIS?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.9772376663978757, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "health information and medical records systems here; how are your medical records? Tell me about the registrars and how you store your patients' information here at the facility."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have HMIS book registers especially at the OPD and the dispensary. Actually every department has registers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is HMIS?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are registers where we find the out-patients and in-patients maybe in the lab ... I was saying that maybe in the lab it is a computerized system but here it is in-patient and out-patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "we were talking about health information, how is the integration of health information between the OPD the in-patients? How do you integrate your medical records?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 4.419152962664306, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have HMIS book registers especially at the OPD and the dispensary. Actually every department has registers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is HMIS?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are registers where we find the out-patients and in-patients maybe in the lab ... I was saying that maybe in the lab it is a computerized system but here it is in-patient and out-patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "we were talking about health information, how is the integration of health information between the OPD the in-patients? How do you integrate your medical records?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have the medical records personnel"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what does that person do?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5768366251825623, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are registers where we find the out-patients and in-patients maybe in the lab ... I was saying that maybe in the lab it is a computerized system but here it is in-patient and out-patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "we were talking about health information, how is the integration of health information between the OPD the in-patients? How do you integrate your medical records?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have the medical records personnel"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what does that person do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "he collects data weekly and monthly and then he issues a report. We also have meetings, data implementation meetings done every month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "data implementation meetings?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7520406946472913, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we have the medical records personnel"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what does that person do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "he collects data weekly and monthly and then he issues a report. We also have meetings, data implementation meetings done every month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "data implementation meetings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you have any in-patients and out-patients’ registers?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9467118829414347, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "he collects data weekly and monthly and then he issues a report. We also have meetings, data implementation meetings done every month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "data implementation meetings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you have any in-patients and out-patients’ registers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, they are there. The out-patients' are outside there, then the in-patients' is at the ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so do you have specific registers for specific conditions? For example, a register for Rheumatic fever, RHD, or a register for those other conditions?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1630132032682607, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you have any in-patients and out-patients’ registers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, they are there. The out-patients' are outside there, then the in-patients' is at the ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so do you have specific registers for specific conditions? For example, a register for Rheumatic fever, RHD, or a register for those other conditions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually we have one register for all conditions; we don't specify registers or for UTI's or RTI's."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about for hypertensives?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.4033480036314008, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, they are there. The out-patients' are outside there, then the in-patients' is at the ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so do you have specific registers for specific conditions? For example, a register for Rheumatic fever, RHD, or a register for those other conditions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually we have one register for all conditions; we don't specify registers or for UTI's or RTI's."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about for hypertensives?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "those ones are there at the hypertension clinic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you are saying that the patients for hypertension also have their own register?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5592755595904453, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually we have one register for all conditions; we don't specify registers or for UTI's or RTI's."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about for hypertensives?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "those ones are there at the hypertension clinic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you are saying that the patients for hypertension also have their own register?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, but the screening is done from OPD. So when you screen them, you put them on treatment for one week and then you send them to the hypertension clinic, but the screening is done here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you are saying that you have a general register of the OPD but you don't have specific register for example other treatments like hypertension and RHD!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7325283995449392, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "those ones are there at the hypertension clinic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you are saying that the patients for hypertension also have their own register?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, but the screening is done from OPD. So when you screen them, you put them on treatment for one week and then you send them to the hypertension clinic, but the screening is done here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you are saying that you have a general register of the OPD but you don't have specific register for example other treatments like hypertension and RHD!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, apart from TB cases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any guidelines and protocols for RHD care here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9250315550499324, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, but the screening is done from OPD. So when you screen them, you put them on treatment for one week and then you send them to the hypertension clinic, but the screening is done here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you are saying that you have a general register of the OPD but you don't have specific register for example other treatments like hypertension and RHD!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, apart from TB cases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any guidelines and protocols for RHD care here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, we don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you have any referral pathways in receiving patients of RHD here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0278128389443695, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, apart from TB cases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any guidelines and protocols for RHD care here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, we don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you have any referral pathways in receiving patients of RHD here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually we have been referring them to Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what is your referral pathways? When you receive them, what do you do before you send then to Mulago?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.030903154382632643, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, we don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do you have any referral pathways in receiving patients of RHD here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually we have been referring them to Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what is your referral pathways? When you receive them, what do you do before you send then to Mulago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in general, we just write a referral to Mulago (Hospital)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so tell me about the local health system enablers here; what motivates you as regards to administration and leadership? What motivates you to do your work as a health worker?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.03433683820292516, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually we have been referring them to Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what is your referral pathways? When you receive them, what do you do before you send then to Mulago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in general, we just write a referral to Mulago (Hospital)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so tell me about the local health system enablers here; what motivates you as regards to administration and leadership? What motivates you to do your work as a health worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the motivation may not be there so much, but me personally, I love what I do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, structure of the health system here enables you to do your work?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.03815204244769462, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "in general, we just write a referral to Mulago (Hospital)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so tell me about the local health system enablers here; what motivates you as regards to administration and leadership? What motivates you to do your work as a health worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the motivation may not be there so much, but me personally, I love what I do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, structure of the health system here enables you to do your work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it makes you to love what you do! Okay, so the funding of this health facility does, it enable you to do your work as a health worker, funding in general, and that of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.042391158275216244, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the motivation may not be there so much, but me personally, I love what I do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so, structure of the health system here enables you to do your work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it makes you to love what you do! Okay, so the funding of this health facility does, it enable you to do your work as a health worker, funding in general, and that of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I reserve that question to the in-charge because I don't know how much they receive, and despite that, I am not a qualified or I am not paid, so I may not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so we are talking about enablers do the health workers. Do the numbers enable you to be able to do your work."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.04710128697246249, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it makes you to love what you do! Okay, so the funding of this health facility does, it enable you to do your work as a health worker, funding in general, and that of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I reserve that question to the in-charge because I don't know how much they receive, and despite that, I am not a qualified or I am not paid, so I may not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so we are talking about enablers do the health workers. Do the numbers enable you to be able to do your work."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the enablers as health workers; are your numbers enough to do your work?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0523347633027361, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I reserve that question to the in-charge because I don't know how much they receive, and despite that, I am not a qualified or I am not paid, so I may not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so we are talking about enablers do the health workers. Do the numbers enable you to be able to do your work."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the enablers as health workers; are your numbers enough to do your work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the health workers are not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so which means they don't enable you to do your work!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:255", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.05814973700304011, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "the enablers as health workers; are your numbers enough to do your work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the health workers are not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so which means they don't enable you to do your work!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it's because you may find only one person as you may see, and they are calling me mostly. Especially we have these students here; they always want to consultant and you find that you are alone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so which means that even the quality of care ... tell me about the quality of care, as in regards to the numbers. Because now, you are alone; does it enable you to provide proper quality of care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:257", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.06461081889226679, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the health workers are not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so which means they don't enable you to do your work!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it's because you may find only one person as you may see, and they are calling me mostly. Especially we have these students here; they always want to consultant and you find that you are alone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so which means that even the quality of care ... tell me about the quality of care, as in regards to the numbers. Because now, you are alone; does it enable you to provide proper quality of care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for the patient we receive, you have to manage and give care to that patient because what is in your hands is the one you use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so the drugs or the medications that are sent to the health facility, do you enable them or enable you to do your work so far?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07178979876918531, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it's because you may find only one person as you may see, and they are calling me mostly. Especially we have these students here; they always want to consultant and you find that you are alone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so which means that even the quality of care ... tell me about the quality of care, as in regards to the numbers. Because now, you are alone; does it enable you to provide proper quality of care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for the patient we receive, you have to manage and give care to that patient because what is in your hands is the one you use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so the drugs or the medications that are sent to the health facility, do you enable them or enable you to do your work so far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, like I said, they are not enough. You may find yourself sending a patient to go and buy because they are not around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so it is not enabling?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:261", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07976644307687257, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for the patient we receive, you have to manage and give care to that patient because what is in your hands is the one you use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so the drugs or the medications that are sent to the health facility, do you enable them or enable you to do your work so far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, like I said, they are not enough. You may find yourself sending a patient to go and buy because they are not around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so it is not enabling?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what about the medical records system! Are they enabling for you to provide your care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:263", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.08862938119652508, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, like I said, they are not enough. You may find yourself sending a patient to go and buy because they are not around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so it is not enabling?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what about the medical records system! Are they enabling for you to provide your care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no problem with the records system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and you are able to access information in case you need records on the in patients!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:265", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0984770902183612, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what about the medical records system! Are they enabling for you to provide your care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no problem with the records system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and you are able to access information in case you need records on the in patients!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "or for example, are you able to obtain that information from all the different departments?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:267", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.10941898913151243, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no problem with the records system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and you are able to access information in case you need records on the in patients!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "or for example, are you able to obtain that information from all the different departments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you told me that you don't have guidelines and protocols for RHD, right?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:269", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12157665459056936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "or for example, are you able to obtain that information from all the different departments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you told me that you don't have guidelines and protocols for RHD, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, this is my last question; perception of patient outcomes. Generally, do you think the patients get the care they need or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:271", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13508517176729928, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you told me that you don't have guidelines and protocols for RHD, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, this is my last question; perception of patient outcomes. Generally, do you think the patients get the care they need or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "me I thin they do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you think they do! Why do you think they do?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:273", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1500946352969992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, this is my last question; perception of patient outcomes. Generally, do you think the patients get the care they need or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "me I thin they do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you think they do! Why do you think they do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because we at least try our best so that we give what they need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you feel that you give them what they need!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:275", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.16677181699666577, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "me I thin they do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you think they do! Why do you think they do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because we at least try our best so that we give what they need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you feel that you give them what they need!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about surgery?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:277", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1853020188851842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "because we at least try our best so that we give what they need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you feel that you give them what they need!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about surgery?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "surgeries, they do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of surgeries do you do?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2058911320946491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about surgery?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "surgeries, they do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of surgeries do you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "C-section, hernia"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, tell me about patients’ safety and quality of care concern."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:281", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22876792454961012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "surgeries, they do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of surgeries do you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "C-section, hernia"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, tell me about patients’ safety and quality of care concern."}, {"role": "user", "content": "as in security?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "safety, as in, as you provide your care as a health worker, are the patients safe and do you provide quality care or do you have any concerns with that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:283", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25418658283290013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "C-section, hernia"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, tell me about patients’ safety and quality of care concern."}, {"role": "user", "content": "as in security?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "safety, as in, as you provide your care as a health worker, are the patients safe and do you provide quality care or do you have any concerns with that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As we said, they have; we have out stocks, for example you may be giving service but you don't have gloves and yet you see that the patient needs service from the health worker."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you think the patients are safe?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:285", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28242953648100017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "as in security?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "safety, as in, as you provide your care as a health worker, are the patients safe and do you provide quality care or do you have any concerns with that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As we said, they have; we have out stocks, for example you may be giving service but you don't have gloves and yet you see that the patient needs service from the health worker."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you think the patients are safe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually the patients are not safe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and what about the quality of care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:287", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.31381059609000017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As we said, they have; we have out stocks, for example you may be giving service but you don't have gloves and yet you see that the patient needs service from the health worker."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you think the patients are safe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually the patients are not safe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and what about the quality of care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the quality is fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "have you had any preventable deaths here at the health facility?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:289", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34867844010000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually the patients are not safe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and what about the quality of care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the quality is fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "have you had any preventable deaths here at the health facility?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "preventable deaths, have you had any here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:291", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38742048900000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the quality is fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "have you had any preventable deaths here at the health facility?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "preventable deaths, have you had any here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "as regarding?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "preventable deaths, for example, we have patients who die or patients you lose but then the health worker would have prevented that death."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:293", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "preventable deaths, have you had any here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "as regarding?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "preventable deaths, for example, we have patients who die or patients you lose but then the health worker would have prevented that death."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do you think?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:295", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "as regarding?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "preventable deaths, for example, we have patients who die or patients you lose but then the health worker would have prevented that death."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "lack of what to use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "lack of what to use, as in?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:297", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "lack of what to use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "lack of what to use, as in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "now for example, you might get asthmatic and you don't have oxygen, and you have the skill but you end up losing the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any other scenario you have had around here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:299", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "lack of what to use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "lack of what to use, as in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "now for example, you might get asthmatic and you don't have oxygen, and you have the skill but you end up losing the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any other scenario you have had around here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "now for the accident patients, you have the knowledge of what to do but you will see the patient dying because you don't have what to use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to the hospital for care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:301", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "now for example, you might get asthmatic and you don't have oxygen, and you have the skill but you end up losing the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any other scenario you have had around here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "now for the accident patients, you have the knowledge of what to do but you will see the patient dying because you don't have what to use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to the hospital for care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do you think patients should be dying?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:305", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do you think patients should be dying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "first; they don't have what to bring them here, as in regards to transport. Then two; someone thinks I will go to the hospital and be told to buy this and that because it is not there, so as a result they stay at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are some who don't have caretakers! I So you think; when I go to the hospital, they will ask me that you are admitted but do you have anyone to look after you? So he stays home because of that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. So what in your opinion the one or two most important things ministry of health could do to improve patient outcomes?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:307", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "first; they don't have what to bring them here, as in regards to transport. Then two; someone thinks I will go to the hospital and be told to buy this and that because it is not there, so as a result they stay at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are some who don't have caretakers! I So you think; when I go to the hospital, they will ask me that you are admitted but do you have anyone to look after you? So he stays home because of that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. So what in your opinion the one or two most important things ministry of health could do to improve patient outcomes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "one; stocking enough drugs; and then supervising health workers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "supervising health workers, anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:309", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are some who don't have caretakers! I So you think; when I go to the hospital, they will ask me that you are admitted but do you have anyone to look after you? So he stays home because of that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. So what in your opinion the one or two most important things ministry of health could do to improve patient outcomes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "one; stocking enough drugs; and then supervising health workers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "supervising health workers, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and motivating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of motivation are we talking about?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00034:311", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "one; stocking enough drugs; and then supervising health workers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "supervising health workers, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "and motivating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of motivation are we talking about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in terms of support, or it can be quarterly. They can say we are giving sugar or say that we shall take or give lunch to the health workers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else about motivation?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7080277998918526, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say it’s better but no disrespect to the teacher of course, this year’s teacher is a little bit more interactive. I can talk to him about more things here in general and anything can be free for talking I don’t need to be scared."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, could it be because he’s a guy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year teacher was also a guy, P."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh but weren’t you on the online..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah online one that teacher also good. I’m quite open with her also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so it’s not a guy girl thing."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7866975554353918, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year teacher was also a guy, P."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh but weren’t you on the online..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah online one that teacher also good. I’m quite open with her also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so it’s not a guy girl thing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah no no no sexist here, I’m not sexist. Nowadays a lot of..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Smart. You’re being woke. But maybe it is also because it’s in person is it?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.874108394928213, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah online one that teacher also good. I’m quite open with her also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so it’s not a guy girl thing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah no no no sexist here, I’m not sexist. Nowadays a lot of..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Smart. You’re being woke. But maybe it is also because it’s in person is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I guess in-person it’s easier to talk to rather online, but online I still had a fun time I would say with Ms O. Fun experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s very...I won’t say PC I can sense your sincerity. Let’s just focus on the lesson, I mean of course the teachers have a lot to play. How are you using Scribo differrntly this year, if there’s any difference?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9712315499202366, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah no no no sexist here, I’m not sexist. Nowadays a lot of..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Smart. You’re being woke. But maybe it is also because it’s in person is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I guess in-person it’s easier to talk to rather online, but online I still had a fun time I would say with Ms O. Fun experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s very...I won’t say PC I can sense your sincerity. Let’s just focus on the lesson, I mean of course the teachers have a lot to play. How are you using Scribo differrntly this year, if there’s any difference?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess there’s a little bit of changes in Scribo? I mean I still feel like there should be more improvement because Scribo...I mean Scribo only count word count and then they give you the marks based on how many words you have at this point and actually it doesn’t look at vocab.\n\nLike it looks at your vocab but it doesn’t look at the standard of your essay, like how it sounds and everything. Yeah so maybe it’s impossible to change that? I don’t know but to me that’s one of the problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So what would be some of the feedback that’s given to you? I mean you say that it doesn’t tell you very much, so right now it’s only telling you word count-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0791461665780406, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I guess in-person it’s easier to talk to rather online, but online I still had a fun time I would say with Ms O. Fun experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s very...I won’t say PC I can sense your sincerity. Let’s just focus on the lesson, I mean of course the teachers have a lot to play. How are you using Scribo differrntly this year, if there’s any difference?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess there’s a little bit of changes in Scribo? I mean I still feel like there should be more improvement because Scribo...I mean Scribo only count word count and then they give you the marks based on how many words you have at this point and actually it doesn’t look at vocab.\n\nLike it looks at your vocab but it doesn’t look at the standard of your essay, like how it sounds and everything. Yeah so maybe it’s impossible to change that? I don’t know but to me that’s one of the problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So what would be some of the feedback that’s given to you? I mean you say that it doesn’t tell you very much, so right now it’s only telling you word count-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About my vocab error, word count add more points, good sentence structure add some more points. This and that, add more points."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So you already started using Scribo last year right? The first time that you used it, did you feel the same way as you’re feeling now, or last year you felt...?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1990512961978228, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess there’s a little bit of changes in Scribo? I mean I still feel like there should be more improvement because Scribo...I mean Scribo only count word count and then they give you the marks based on how many words you have at this point and actually it doesn’t look at vocab.\n\nLike it looks at your vocab but it doesn’t look at the standard of your essay, like how it sounds and everything. Yeah so maybe it’s impossible to change that? I don’t know but to me that’s one of the problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So what would be some of the feedback that’s given to you? I mean you say that it doesn’t tell you very much, so right now it’s only telling you word count-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About my vocab error, word count add more points, good sentence structure add some more points. This and that, add more points."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So you already started using Scribo last year right? The first time that you used it, did you feel the same way as you’re feeling now, or last year you felt...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely not, I think this year I feel much more able to handle it more because I know how to use it now. Last time I mean I still know how use it but I’m not that familiar with it. Now I know basically almost every function of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. Because last night I was just interviewing some who are completely new so they were saying they need a guide. So what would be the functions that you recommend that they should learn how to use?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3322792179975809, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "About my vocab error, word count add more points, good sentence structure add some more points. This and that, add more points."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So you already started using Scribo last year right? The first time that you used it, did you feel the same way as you’re feeling now, or last year you felt...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely not, I think this year I feel much more able to handle it more because I know how to use it now. Last time I mean I still know how use it but I’m not that familiar with it. Now I know basically almost every function of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. Because last night I was just interviewing some who are completely new so they were saying they need a guide. So what would be the functions that you recommend that they should learn how to use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely the “check”. The “check” is definitely the easiest...it was the first thing I learnt actually, the “check” button, and how to actually change the words. Because it’s easy to know what you’re doing wrong because it gives you the format of it.\n\nSo you can basically just click on it and change the word. And you keep clicking “accept” and then everything change and then you get more marks [inaudible]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so it’s not a lot of mental power right because they give alternatives and you just accept? Okay. Is that good or bad?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.4803102422195342, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely not, I think this year I feel much more able to handle it more because I know how to use it now. Last time I mean I still know how use it but I’m not that familiar with it. Now I know basically almost every function of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. Because last night I was just interviewing some who are completely new so they were saying they need a guide. So what would be the functions that you recommend that they should learn how to use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely the “check”. The “check” is definitely the easiest...it was the first thing I learnt actually, the “check” button, and how to actually change the words. Because it’s easy to know what you’re doing wrong because it gives you the format of it.\n\nSo you can basically just click on it and change the word. And you keep clicking “accept” and then everything change and then you get more marks [inaudible]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so it’s not a lot of mental power right because they give alternatives and you just accept? Okay. Is that good or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From a perspective if you really wanna learn English I would say you won’t just click “accept”. So I think it’s based on yourself, if you have the discipline you would actually read through rather than pressing all of them as “accept” and then get marks. Like you don’t know what you are wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, did you find that what they were telling me last night “press check only”, they found it a bit intimidating, overwhelming, how do you feel about that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5336780469105935, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely the “check”. The “check” is definitely the easiest...it was the first thing I learnt actually, the “check” button, and how to actually change the words. Because it’s easy to know what you’re doing wrong because it gives you the format of it.\n\nSo you can basically just click on it and change the word. And you keep clicking “accept” and then everything change and then you get more marks [inaudible]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so it’s not a lot of mental power right because they give alternatives and you just accept? Okay. Is that good or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From a perspective if you really wanna learn English I would say you won’t just click “accept”. So I think it’s based on yourself, if you have the discipline you would actually read through rather than pressing all of them as “accept” and then get marks. Like you don’t know what you are wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, did you find that what they were telling me last night “press check only”, they found it a bit intimidating, overwhelming, how do you feel about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely gets some time to get used to. I mean it took me 1 year to get used to it. I am more familiar with it so I’m not that intimidated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you understand the feedback better this year? Because they were saying there were some things like “huh?”"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5929756076784373, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From a perspective if you really wanna learn English I would say you won’t just click “accept”. So I think it’s based on yourself, if you have the discipline you would actually read through rather than pressing all of them as “accept” and then get marks. Like you don’t know what you are wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, did you find that what they were telling me last night “press check only”, they found it a bit intimidating, overwhelming, how do you feel about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely gets some time to get used to. I mean it took me 1 year to get used to it. I am more familiar with it so I’m not that intimidated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you understand the feedback better this year? Because they were saying there were some things like “huh?”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah some features I would say still a little bit confusing but I at least understand what they are saying now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay give me an example...so you were saying there are parts that are hard to understand, which are the parts that were hard to understand?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6588617863093748, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely gets some time to get used to. I mean it took me 1 year to get used to it. I am more familiar with it so I’m not that intimidated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you understand the feedback better this year? Because they were saying there were some things like “huh?”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah some features I would say still a little bit confusing but I at least understand what they are saying now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay give me an example...so you were saying there are parts that are hard to understand, which are the parts that were hard to understand?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say for me the problem is mostly peer review. It’s kinda hard to understand because you need to find which peer review is on which essay that you were given, like the peer review you have to write for that particular essay.\n\nBecause last year I had peer reviews also, I had 2 peer reviews which I don’t know which one is which one. It’s not clearly stated I would say. Maybe I’m just blind, I don’t know? And I press in it, loading interface slow but I think it’s the internet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so peer review is somebody giving you feedback, but you don’t know where they gave the feedback?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7320686514548608, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah some features I would say still a little bit confusing but I at least understand what they are saying now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay give me an example...so you were saying there are parts that are hard to understand, which are the parts that were hard to understand?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say for me the problem is mostly peer review. It’s kinda hard to understand because you need to find which peer review is on which essay that you were given, like the peer review you have to write for that particular essay.\n\nBecause last year I had peer reviews also, I had 2 peer reviews which I don’t know which one is which one. It’s not clearly stated I would say. Maybe I’m just blind, I don’t know? And I press in it, loading interface slow but I think it’s the internet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so peer review is somebody giving you feedback, but you don’t know where they gave the feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah you also don’t know who it is, it’s kind of intimidating, you don’t know who is it. Mysterious."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I guess it’s good and bad right?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.813409612727623, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say for me the problem is mostly peer review. It’s kinda hard to understand because you need to find which peer review is on which essay that you were given, like the peer review you have to write for that particular essay.\n\nBecause last year I had peer reviews also, I had 2 peer reviews which I don’t know which one is which one. It’s not clearly stated I would say. Maybe I’m just blind, I don’t know? And I press in it, loading interface slow but I think it’s the internet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so peer review is somebody giving you feedback, but you don’t know where they gave the feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah you also don’t know who it is, it’s kind of intimidating, you don’t know who is it. Mysterious."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I guess it’s good and bad right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean of course if you know the person, then I think you will give her a peace/piece? of mind but if you don’t know the person it’s kind of awkward that they’re giving you this type of review? But at the same time if you’re too mysterious about it it’s like...you know you feel uncomfortable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you want your classmates to know that you’re the one who reviewed their work?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9037884585862478, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah you also don’t know who it is, it’s kind of intimidating, you don’t know who is it. Mysterious."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I guess it’s good and bad right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean of course if you know the person, then I think you will give her a peace/piece? of mind but if you don’t know the person it’s kind of awkward that they’re giving you this type of review? But at the same time if you’re too mysterious about it it’s like...you know you feel uncomfortable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you want your classmates to know that you’re the one who reviewed their work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah definitely. I would say I have friends to learn with, to learn from and to learn with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you don’t mind your friend knowing that remark came from you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0042093984291642, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean of course if you know the person, then I think you will give her a peace/piece? of mind but if you don’t know the person it’s kind of awkward that they’re giving you this type of review? But at the same time if you’re too mysterious about it it’s like...you know you feel uncomfortable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you want your classmates to know that you’re the one who reviewed their work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah definitely. I would say I have friends to learn with, to learn from and to learn with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you don’t mind your friend knowing that remark came from you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. If its in the class I don’t mind. Maybe if more unfamiliar person then maybe there will be some awkwardness. I wouldn’t say after school I’ll beat them up, it’s just awkward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. That occurs to me how does that compare with face- to-face peer review? Do you do it in school? Peer review in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.115788220476849, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah definitely. I would say I have friends to learn with, to learn from and to learn with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you don’t mind your friend knowing that remark came from you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. If its in the class I don’t mind. Maybe if more unfamiliar person then maybe there will be some awkwardness. I wouldn’t say after school I’ll beat them up, it’s just awkward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. That occurs to me how does that compare with face- to-face peer review? Do you do it in school? Peer review in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Normally teacher just ask the class what did the person do correctly and what did the person do wrongly. Like she flashes the thing when you’re presenting, and then just like that, “peer review”. It’s just everybody, but most of them don’t talk because it’s the class you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Because so many people. So you’ve never experienced having the teacher say “you and your shoulder partner exchange papers and give each other reviews”?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.239764689418721, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. If its in the class I don’t mind. Maybe if more unfamiliar person then maybe there will be some awkwardness. I wouldn’t say after school I’ll beat them up, it’s just awkward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. That occurs to me how does that compare with face- to-face peer review? Do you do it in school? Peer review in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Normally teacher just ask the class what did the person do correctly and what did the person do wrongly. Like she flashes the thing when you’re presenting, and then just like that, “peer review”. It’s just everybody, but most of them don’t talk because it’s the class you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Because so many people. So you’ve never experienced having the teacher say “you and your shoulder partner exchange papers and give each other reviews”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, not yet?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so how does both last year’s teacher and this year’s teacher...last night’s group actually very fun they were saying “we call him cher.” So how do the chers prepare y’all to give each other peer review? Just give to you or?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3775163215763568, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Normally teacher just ask the class what did the person do correctly and what did the person do wrongly. Like she flashes the thing when you’re presenting, and then just like that, “peer review”. It’s just everybody, but most of them don’t talk because it’s the class you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Because so many people. So you’ve never experienced having the teacher say “you and your shoulder partner exchange papers and give each other reviews”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, not yet?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so how does both last year’s teacher and this year’s teacher...last night’s group actually very fun they were saying “we call him cher.” So how do the chers prepare y’all to give each other peer review? Just give to you or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The teacher definitely try to make it anonymous but-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But how do you know what to write?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5305736906403964, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, not yet?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so how does both last year’s teacher and this year’s teacher...last night’s group actually very fun they were saying “we call him cher.” So how do the chers prepare y’all to give each other peer review? Just give to you or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The teacher definitely try to make it anonymous but-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But how do you know what to write?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because teacher gave us a list of things to write, and then we just kind of complete the sentence? But because the sentence is just halfway, so fill in the blanks kind of thing. So we did the complete the sentence, and then the rest of the part you just self-think what you think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay your initiative, what you feel. Do y’all use rubrics? Do y’all compare your friend’s work with the rubrics?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7006374340448849, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The teacher definitely try to make it anonymous but-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But how do you know what to write?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because teacher gave us a list of things to write, and then we just kind of complete the sentence? But because the sentence is just halfway, so fill in the blanks kind of thing. So we did the complete the sentence, and then the rest of the part you just self-think what you think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay your initiative, what you feel. Do y’all use rubrics? Do y’all compare your friend’s work with the rubrics?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What else does the cher help in your composition writing apart from this peer review thing?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8895971489387609, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because teacher gave us a list of things to write, and then we just kind of complete the sentence? But because the sentence is just halfway, so fill in the blanks kind of thing. So we did the complete the sentence, and then the rest of the part you just self-think what you think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay your initiative, what you feel. Do y’all use rubrics? Do y’all compare your friend’s work with the rubrics?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What else does the cher help in your composition writing apart from this peer review thing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say the teacher...very helpful. He actually gave a lot of tips like how to write introduction paragraph, and use what tactic to do it, then you will write a kind of complete introduction. I would say that the teacher gave a lot of stepping stones, he is very good. I feel I can follow the class because you know what to do.\n\nThey just don’t throw you into an empty room and then just tell you to do things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let me guess, this doesn’t happen in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.099552387709734, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What else does the cher help in your composition writing apart from this peer review thing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say the teacher...very helpful. He actually gave a lot of tips like how to write introduction paragraph, and use what tactic to do it, then you will write a kind of complete introduction. I would say that the teacher gave a lot of stepping stones, he is very good. I feel I can follow the class because you know what to do.\n\nThey just don’t throw you into an empty room and then just tell you to do things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let me guess, this doesn’t happen in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean yeah there’s too many people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So in school your teachers don’t give you like “step 1 do this, step 2 do this”?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3328359863441492, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say the teacher...very helpful. He actually gave a lot of tips like how to write introduction paragraph, and use what tactic to do it, then you will write a kind of complete introduction. I would say that the teacher gave a lot of stepping stones, he is very good. I feel I can follow the class because you know what to do.\n\nThey just don’t throw you into an empty room and then just tell you to do things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let me guess, this doesn’t happen in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean yeah there’s too many people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So in school your teachers don’t give you like “step 1 do this, step 2 do this”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wouldn’t say that they don’t, but they rarely do it. Mostly they just go through some steps and ask you to do a composition and then like...I feel like they either go too fast because there’s no time, or too fast because too much students to ask questions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. It just occurred to me, when he gives y’all the tips it’s embedded in Scribo right? It’s there part of the lesson in Scribo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.5920399848268323, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean yeah there’s too many people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So in school your teachers don’t give you like “step 1 do this, step 2 do this”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wouldn’t say that they don’t, but they rarely do it. Mostly they just go through some steps and ask you to do a composition and then like...I feel like they either go too fast because there’s no time, or too fast because too much students to ask questions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. It just occurred to me, when he gives y’all the tips it’s embedded in Scribo right? It’s there part of the lesson in Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because he doesn’t give you paper...no right? It is parked within Scribo. And then when you’re lost you can go back to the Scribo."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7689333164742582, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wouldn’t say that they don’t, but they rarely do it. Mostly they just go through some steps and ask you to do a composition and then like...I feel like they either go too fast because there’s no time, or too fast because too much students to ask questions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. It just occurred to me, when he gives y’all the tips it’s embedded in Scribo right? It’s there part of the lesson in Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because he doesn’t give you paper...no right? It is parked within Scribo. And then when you’re lost you can go back to the Scribo."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, to Scribo and find out what the question is. And I don’t know if it’s Scribo or the teacher but there’s a lot of helpful words in there to use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so it’s all parked there, whatever help that you need is there. In school if you’re lost where do you go to for help?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9654814627491757, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because he doesn’t give you paper...no right? It is parked within Scribo. And then when you’re lost you can go back to the Scribo."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, to Scribo and find out what the question is. And I don’t know if it’s Scribo or the teacher but there’s a lot of helpful words in there to use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so it’s all parked there, whatever help that you need is there. In school if you’re lost where do you go to for help?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They just fly over, the lesson just finish, end, and next lesson you have no time to actually clear all your doubts I would say. That’s why there’s this thing called tuition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so this is what happens before you start writing and when you start writing. So talk me through when you are writing for the teacher here, this term you had quite a few right, there was one where it’s for teenagers making a stand on climate change.\n\nDo you remember that one? It’s expository writing. So he says- was that writing a speech?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1838682919435284, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, to Scribo and find out what the question is. And I don’t know if it’s Scribo or the teacher but there’s a lot of helpful words in there to use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so it’s all parked there, whatever help that you need is there. In school if you’re lost where do you go to for help?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They just fly over, the lesson just finish, end, and next lesson you have no time to actually clear all your doubts I would say. That’s why there’s this thing called tuition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so this is what happens before you start writing and when you start writing. So talk me through when you are writing for the teacher here, this term you had quite a few right, there was one where it’s for teenagers making a stand on climate change.\n\nDo you remember that one? It’s expository writing. So he says- was that writing a speech?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one is other one if I’m not wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Olay so let’s say whether it’s writing a speech or expository, what do you do when he says “start to write” ?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.426520324381698, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They just fly over, the lesson just finish, end, and next lesson you have no time to actually clear all your doubts I would say. That’s why there’s this thing called tuition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so this is what happens before you start writing and when you start writing. So talk me through when you are writing for the teacher here, this term you had quite a few right, there was one where it’s for teenagers making a stand on climate change.\n\nDo you remember that one? It’s expository writing. So he says- was that writing a speech?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one is other one if I’m not wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Olay so let’s say whether it’s writing a speech or expository, what do you do when he says “start to write” ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because before he ask us to write, he actually had slides to show us the direction we should be going, so I basically know what I am supposed to write. It didn’t have much of a problem but I realised that I still go off topic sometimes. Maybe it’s just me personally but I went really off topic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, once or twice or all the time?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.6961336937574423, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one is other one if I’m not wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Olay so let’s say whether it’s writing a speech or expository, what do you do when he says “start to write” ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because before he ask us to write, he actually had slides to show us the direction we should be going, so I basically know what I am supposed to write. It didn’t have much of a problem but I realised that I still go off topic sometimes. Maybe it’s just me personally but I went really off topic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, once or twice or all the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Once or twice, not all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So he basically gives you like you say, stepping stones, he probably gave you a template, so you write and then what’s the next thing you do? After you write? Then hand up to him?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8845929930638246, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because before he ask us to write, he actually had slides to show us the direction we should be going, so I basically know what I am supposed to write. It didn’t have much of a problem but I realised that I still go off topic sometimes. Maybe it’s just me personally but I went really off topic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, once or twice or all the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Once or twice, not all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So he basically gives you like you say, stepping stones, he probably gave you a template, so you write and then what’s the next thing you do? After you write? Then hand up to him?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I use the “check” in Scribo, I change some of the structure and all. Of course you can also easily cheat- I mean I won’t call it cheating if you learn from it, you go to other websites and you copy paste from there to Scribo, and then you might learn something\n\nAfter doing that it’ll give you more marks, sometimes. But if you have bad sentence structures or words or grammar, then they will just minus marks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so last night’s class was telling me some of them prefer to write one paragraph and “check”, some prefer to write the whole thing and “check”. Which one do you are you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0939922145153607, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Once or twice, not all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So he basically gives you like you say, stepping stones, he probably gave you a template, so you write and then what’s the next thing you do? After you write? Then hand up to him?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I use the “check” in Scribo, I change some of the structure and all. Of course you can also easily cheat- I mean I won’t call it cheating if you learn from it, you go to other websites and you copy paste from there to Scribo, and then you might learn something\n\nAfter doing that it’ll give you more marks, sometimes. But if you have bad sentence structures or words or grammar, then they will just minus marks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so last night’s class was telling me some of them prefer to write one paragraph and “check”, some prefer to write the whole thing and “check”. Which one do you are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say the whole thing and then “check”."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you prefer to write then-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3266580161281785, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I use the “check” in Scribo, I change some of the structure and all. Of course you can also easily cheat- I mean I won’t call it cheating if you learn from it, you go to other websites and you copy paste from there to Scribo, and then you might learn something\n\nAfter doing that it’ll give you more marks, sometimes. But if you have bad sentence structures or words or grammar, then they will just minus marks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so last night’s class was telling me some of them prefer to write one paragraph and “check”, some prefer to write the whole thing and “check”. Which one do you are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say the whole thing and then “check”."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you prefer to write then-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you write a paragraph and then check, first of all you’re making yourself busy, you’re wasting more time. In the actual exam you won’t have time to finish because you want to-because after doing one paragraph you need to scan through and check if you did anything wrong.\n\nI prefer to finish the exam, essay, and then go back and check. People that go and check after writing one paragraph mostly all copy from website I would say. Because they copy from website, they paste, and then they check to see how much marks they lose or gain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh I didn’t know that. Okay, you know what you’re telling me is here using Scribo, but during exams, because you use the word “exams”, during exams do you check through your work?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5851755734757536, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say the whole thing and then “check”."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you prefer to write then-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you write a paragraph and then check, first of all you’re making yourself busy, you’re wasting more time. In the actual exam you won’t have time to finish because you want to-because after doing one paragraph you need to scan through and check if you did anything wrong.\n\nI prefer to finish the exam, essay, and then go back and check. People that go and check after writing one paragraph mostly all copy from website I would say. Because they copy from website, they paste, and then they check to see how much marks they lose or gain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh I didn’t know that. Okay, you know what you’re telling me is here using Scribo, but during exams, because you use the word “exams”, during exams do you check through your work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "After finishing the exam. That’s why Scribo also I finish the essay then I check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has it always been your habit to check through your work?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.8724173038619485, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you write a paragraph and then check, first of all you’re making yourself busy, you’re wasting more time. In the actual exam you won’t have time to finish because you want to-because after doing one paragraph you need to scan through and check if you did anything wrong.\n\nI prefer to finish the exam, essay, and then go back and check. People that go and check after writing one paragraph mostly all copy from website I would say. Because they copy from website, they paste, and then they check to see how much marks they lose or gain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh I didn’t know that. Okay, you know what you’re telling me is here using Scribo, but during exams, because you use the word “exams”, during exams do you check through your work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "After finishing the exam. That’s why Scribo also I finish the essay then I check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has it always been your habit to check through your work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah always, definitely you need to if not you will lose a lot of marks because of careless mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So after one year of Scribo telling you what the...do you find that you are more accurate in picking out your mistakes? Like checking?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9693525598466094, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "After finishing the exam. That’s why Scribo also I finish the essay then I check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has it always been your habit to check through your work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah always, definitely you need to if not you will lose a lot of marks because of careless mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So after one year of Scribo telling you what the...do you find that you are more accurate in picking out your mistakes? Like checking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I can spot most of my spelling mistakes now. and sentence structure also. I know what sentence structure actually is wrong, because Scribo actually changes your structure, but sometimes it’s also bad because it changes the words that is not related to the sentence.\n\nSometimes if you ignore it you minus marks. So it’s not really that good, not 100%, but definitely 90%."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me an example of when they change already, and it becomes not...?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.077058399829566, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah always, definitely you need to if not you will lose a lot of marks because of careless mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So after one year of Scribo telling you what the...do you find that you are more accurate in picking out your mistakes? Like checking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I can spot most of my spelling mistakes now. and sentence structure also. I know what sentence structure actually is wrong, because Scribo actually changes your structure, but sometimes it’s also bad because it changes the words that is not related to the sentence.\n\nSometimes if you ignore it you minus marks. So it’s not really that good, not 100%, but definitely 90%."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me an example of when they change already, and it becomes not...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Different, the whole sentence the meaning all changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you remember an example of that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1967315553661844, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I can spot most of my spelling mistakes now. and sentence structure also. I know what sentence structure actually is wrong, because Scribo actually changes your structure, but sometimes it’s also bad because it changes the words that is not related to the sentence.\n\nSometimes if you ignore it you minus marks. So it’s not really that good, not 100%, but definitely 90%."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me an example of when they change already, and it becomes not...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Different, the whole sentence the meaning all changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you remember an example of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No not really. I mean I can remember that happened last time but I cannot remember the exact sentence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay no problem. I just remember last year the students tell me “a can of sardines”, then they say change it to “a tin or sardines” so..."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3297017281846493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Different, the whole sentence the meaning all changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you remember an example of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No not really. I mean I can remember that happened last time but I cannot remember the exact sentence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay no problem. I just remember last year the students tell me “a can of sardines”, then they say change it to “a tin or sardines” so..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mine... was a big change the word definitely changes the whole thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So the fact that you can spot all this, did your teacher this year notice any change from January to May? Did she notice that you have improved or not improved, or anything?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4774463646496103, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No not really. I mean I can remember that happened last time but I cannot remember the exact sentence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay no problem. I just remember last year the students tell me “a can of sardines”, then they say change it to “a tin or sardines” so..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mine... was a big change the word definitely changes the whole thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So the fact that you can spot all this, did your teacher this year notice any change from January to May? Did she notice that you have improved or not improved, or anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely I’ve improved on my English, 100% I did. My marks all increased and everything. From 50 to almost failing I got to 60 something to grade 3."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay grade 3 would be actually 65 and above?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.6416070718329003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mine... was a big change the word definitely changes the whole thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So the fact that you can spot all this, did your teacher this year notice any change from January to May? Did she notice that you have improved or not improved, or anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely I’ve improved on my English, 100% I did. My marks all increased and everything. From 50 to almost failing I got to 60 something to grade 3."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay grade 3 would be actually 65 and above?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I forgot I think it’s 66 and above, I got 69 on it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s very good! This compre or compo or altogether?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7128967464810003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely I’ve improved on my English, 100% I did. My marks all increased and everything. From 50 to almost failing I got to 60 something to grade 3."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay grade 3 would be actually 65 and above?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I forgot I think it’s 66 and above, I got 69 on it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s very good! This compre or compo or altogether?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, only compo. Because WA2."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh because WA2 is a compo. What sort of compo was it?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7921074960900003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I forgot I think it’s 66 and above, I got 69 on it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s very good! This compre or compo or altogether?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, only compo. Because WA2."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh because WA2 is a compo. What sort of compo was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I forgot what compo was it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s okay, tell me if you were able to apply the stuff that you..."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8801194401000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, only compo. Because WA2."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh because WA2 is a compo. What sort of compo was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I forgot what compo was it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s okay, tell me if you were able to apply the stuff that you..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah definitely I can confidently say that I did apply a lot of methods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, can you give me one example of a method you’ve applied?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9779104890000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I forgot what compo was it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s okay, tell me if you were able to apply the stuff that you..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah definitely I can confidently say that I did apply a lot of methods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, can you give me one example of a method you’ve applied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The thing I mostly apply is I will check through everything, sentences and everything, especially spelling which I know minus a lot of marks because of my carelessness. But sometimes I don’t know how to spell that word even though I know it’s wrong.\n\nSo I would actually change to another synonym, which I learn from Scribo, ChatGPT or what, all AI. I actually learnt that from Scribo because I said they change some of the words and change the entire meaning, but sometimes they did change the word but it’s the same meaning of the word. It's just changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s very smart. Actually that occurred to me, do you use Scribo for your schoolwork?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0865672100000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah definitely I can confidently say that I did apply a lot of methods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, can you give me one example of a method you’ve applied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The thing I mostly apply is I will check through everything, sentences and everything, especially spelling which I know minus a lot of marks because of my carelessness. But sometimes I don’t know how to spell that word even though I know it’s wrong.\n\nSo I would actually change to another synonym, which I learn from Scribo, ChatGPT or what, all AI. I actually learnt that from Scribo because I said they change some of the words and change the entire meaning, but sometimes they did change the word but it’s the same meaning of the word. It's just changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s very smart. Actually that occurred to me, do you use Scribo for your schoolwork?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think you can do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you can right? The CDAC people keep telling me that- well is the school stopping you from using is it?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2072969000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The thing I mostly apply is I will check through everything, sentences and everything, especially spelling which I know minus a lot of marks because of my carelessness. But sometimes I don’t know how to spell that word even though I know it’s wrong.\n\nSo I would actually change to another synonym, which I learn from Scribo, ChatGPT or what, all AI. I actually learnt that from Scribo because I said they change some of the words and change the entire meaning, but sometimes they did change the word but it’s the same meaning of the word. It's just changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s very smart. Actually that occurred to me, do you use Scribo for your schoolwork?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think you can do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you can right? The CDAC people keep telling me that- well is the school stopping you from using is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Basically any website unless it’s of course homework."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah homework, do you use it?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.341441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think you can do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you can right? The CDAC people keep telling me that- well is the school stopping you from using is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Basically any website unless it’s of course homework."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah homework, do you use it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean it’s digital so I don’t use it because if you use it on digital and then you have to write on the piece of paper. I don’t use it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wait your homework is still all paper?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.49049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Basically any website unless it’s of course homework."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah homework, do you use it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean it’s digital so I don’t use it because if you use it on digital and then you have to write on the piece of paper. I don’t use it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wait your homework is still all paper?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay which one do you prefer, writing or digital?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean it’s digital so I don’t use it because if you use it on digital and then you have to write on the piece of paper. I don’t use it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wait your homework is still all paper?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay which one do you prefer, writing or digital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course digital. Nowadays everybody is all on technology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why, what’s the advantage?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay which one do you prefer, writing or digital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course digital. Nowadays everybody is all on technology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why, what’s the advantage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Advantage is of course first of all you don’t need to write with your actual hand, you can just type the words and it kind of just pops up, like magic. And second is convenient, you can do it anywhere you want. You got to bring the charger but you can do it everywhere.\n\nAnd it’s fast. You can just type because now you don’t need to look at the keyboard you just type."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so for you it’s faster? More familiar?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course digital. Nowadays everybody is all on technology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why, what’s the advantage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Advantage is of course first of all you don’t need to write with your actual hand, you can just type the words and it kind of just pops up, like magic. And second is convenient, you can do it anywhere you want. You got to bring the charger but you can do it everywhere.\n\nAnd it’s fast. You can just type because now you don’t need to look at the keyboard you just type."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so for you it’s faster? More familiar?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For me, faster yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the fact that some people tell me “writing I must think, then if it’s proper then I write, if not I end up using correction tape and all.” But typing you and cut and paste and move things around. Is that one of the factors?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Advantage is of course first of all you don’t need to write with your actual hand, you can just type the words and it kind of just pops up, like magic. And second is convenient, you can do it anywhere you want. You got to bring the charger but you can do it everywhere.\n\nAnd it’s fast. You can just type because now you don’t need to look at the keyboard you just type."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so for you it’s faster? More familiar?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For me, faster yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the fact that some people tell me “writing I must think, then if it’s proper then I write, if not I end up using correction tape and all.” But typing you and cut and paste and move things around. Is that one of the factors?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean for me it doesn’t really affect me that much, because I don’t really think I just write. Whatever pops up in my mind I just write. But after checking then I will do the corrections, like I said change the words type and everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. So as you say, obviously after you’ve done that, digitally is easier to correct compared to [paper]?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For me, faster yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the fact that some people tell me “writing I must think, then if it’s proper then I write, if not I end up using correction tape and all.” But typing you and cut and paste and move things around. Is that one of the factors?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean for me it doesn’t really affect me that much, because I don’t really think I just write. Whatever pops up in my mind I just write. But after checking then I will do the corrections, like I said change the words type and everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. So as you say, obviously after you’ve done that, digitally is easier to correct compared to [paper]?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah because you need to use correction tape which spends money and another thing is that you have no space. If you cancel you have no space, you realise you have no space."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so I can see that that’s the advantage you were saying. Okay let’s talk about the part where after you’ve submitted your work, then what happens after the teacher here returns you the work versus in school? My impression from school is that teacher just brings out a few examples and-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean for me it doesn’t really affect me that much, because I don’t really think I just write. Whatever pops up in my mind I just write. But after checking then I will do the corrections, like I said change the words type and everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. So as you say, obviously after you’ve done that, digitally is easier to correct compared to [paper]?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah because you need to use correction tape which spends money and another thing is that you have no space. If you cancel you have no space, you realise you have no space."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so I can see that that’s the advantage you were saying. Okay let’s talk about the part where after you’ve submitted your work, then what happens after the teacher here returns you the work versus in school? My impression from school is that teacher just brings out a few examples and-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean it’s definitely faster, 100%. To my school teacher’s credit, she make the effort to mark one by one our work, and then actually brings out the top scorer’s work and give it to us. Like you said rough examples and ask you to basically learn from them.\n\nBut then after that you see WA2 they fail. I would say Scribo is very fast I guess because of the help of technology also? And it spots all your mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you know immediately...okay."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah because you need to use correction tape which spends money and another thing is that you have no space. If you cancel you have no space, you realise you have no space."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so I can see that that’s the advantage you were saying. Okay let’s talk about the part where after you’ve submitted your work, then what happens after the teacher here returns you the work versus in school? My impression from school is that teacher just brings out a few examples and-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean it’s definitely faster, 100%. To my school teacher’s credit, she make the effort to mark one by one our work, and then actually brings out the top scorer’s work and give it to us. Like you said rough examples and ask you to basically learn from them.\n\nBut then after that you see WA2 they fail. I would say Scribo is very fast I guess because of the help of technology also? And it spots all your mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you know immediately...okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah you basically don’t really need a teacher? But some things still need a teacher, some things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Are you required to do corrections for school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean it’s definitely faster, 100%. To my school teacher’s credit, she make the effort to mark one by one our work, and then actually brings out the top scorer’s work and give it to us. Like you said rough examples and ask you to basically learn from them.\n\nBut then after that you see WA2 they fail. I would say Scribo is very fast I guess because of the help of technology also? And it spots all your mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you know immediately...okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah you basically don’t really need a teacher? But some things still need a teacher, some things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Are you required to do corrections for school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Somehow I don’t know why, I also thought I need to do corrections but they just basically flash the top scorers paper, and then tell us just look at that, and then that’s it. That’s your correction, but they print out the paper for you already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. But over here, you’re obviously..."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah you basically don’t really need a teacher? But some things still need a teacher, some things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Are you required to do corrections for school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Somehow I don’t know why, I also thought I need to do corrections but they just basically flash the top scorers paper, and then tell us just look at that, and then that’s it. That’s your correction, but they print out the paper for you already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. But over here, you’re obviously..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah you need, you do some adjustments and everything. Teacher also went-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He goes through and after he goes through and gives comments, are you required to re-draft?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Somehow I don’t know why, I also thought I need to do corrections but they just basically flash the top scorers paper, and then tell us just look at that, and then that’s it. That’s your correction, but they print out the paper for you already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. But over here, you’re obviously..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah you need, you do some adjustments and everything. Teacher also went-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He goes through and after he goes through and gives comments, are you required to re-draft?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah change it and he also helps us a lot with different things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So I can see how between school and here there’s a difference in the preparation in the writing as well as the...I’m so reluctant to let you go. Okay I’m gonna ask you 1 or 2 last questions. If I were to ask you, are you more confident in English language now? Would you agree? Disagree?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah you need, you do some adjustments and everything. Teacher also went-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He goes through and after he goes through and gives comments, are you required to re-draft?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah change it and he also helps us a lot with different things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So I can see how between school and here there’s a difference in the preparation in the writing as well as the...I’m so reluctant to let you go. Okay I’m gonna ask you 1 or 2 last questions. If I were to ask you, are you more confident in English language now? Would you agree? Disagree?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah definitely. Definitely more confident I would say speaking-wise. Because Scribo helped me on writing, I feel like after writing you can actually convert those into speaking. You know more vocab, you know what to say. sentence don’t sound so boring."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So you’re more confident, let’s say going forward, have you changed the way you approach your learning of English language? I mean previously students who tell me “cher English cannot study one.”"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00004:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah change it and he also helps us a lot with different things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So I can see how between school and here there’s a difference in the preparation in the writing as well as the...I’m so reluctant to let you go. Okay I’m gonna ask you 1 or 2 last questions. If I were to ask you, are you more confident in English language now? Would you agree? Disagree?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah definitely. Definitely more confident I would say speaking-wise. Because Scribo helped me on writing, I feel like after writing you can actually convert those into speaking. You know more vocab, you know what to say. sentence don’t sound so boring."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So you’re more confident, let’s say going forward, have you changed the way you approach your learning of English language? I mean previously students who tell me “cher English cannot study one.”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean wouldn’t say I changed that much, but I would say I actually read more because I just like reading now. I got into reading. Parents always called me for not reading the news so had no choice. Basically that’s really it.\n\nI mean English...I would say using Scribo is definitely easier to spot your mistakes without your teacher. But you got to be responsible enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s great, I think such a good model for the success of the program, especially after you say you’ve benefited from it from one year. We wanted to know if after one year, is there a plateau or does it keep going up. So what do you think? Go up come down, go up plateau, or go up and keep on going up?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.548144908611166, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "31."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where are you located?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am located in Philadelphia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was your job? Oh, where do you work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m an emergency medicine, doctor?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was your job in January 2020."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 6.164605454012406, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am located in Philadelphia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was your job? Oh, where do you work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m an emergency medicine, doctor?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was your job in January 2020."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was a resident in emergency medicine, completing my residency here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when did you first hear about COVID?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5162282822360065, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m an emergency medicine, doctor?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was your job in January 2020."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was a resident in emergency medicine, completing my residency here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when did you first hear about COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably January of 2020 Probably. And maybe December. Hard to remember. Either December or January."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember where?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.906920313595563, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was a resident in emergency medicine, completing my residency here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when did you first hear about COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably January of 2020 Probably. And maybe December. Hard to remember. Either December or January."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were your initial thoughts?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.341022570661736, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably January of 2020 Probably. And maybe December. Hard to remember. Either December or January."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were your initial thoughts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Honestly, my initial thoughts were it was just not a global issue. It just was not really anything I had to think about at that moment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you remember, why?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.823358411846374, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were your initial thoughts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Honestly, my initial thoughts were it was just not a global issue. It just was not really anything I had to think about at that moment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you remember, why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was very remote. It wasn't the first time there was a viral illness that was highly contagious that wasn't in this region. I just I never expected it to become a pandemic. I always thought it was just going to be an epidemic. So it wasn't really on my radar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you working during Ebola?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.359287124273749, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Honestly, my initial thoughts were it was just not a global issue. It just was not really anything I had to think about at that moment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you remember, why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was very remote. It wasn't the first time there was a viral illness that was highly contagious that wasn't in this region. I just I never expected it to become a pandemic. I always thought it was just going to be an epidemic. So it wasn't really on my radar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you working during Ebola?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I was not. I was still in medical school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who did you who did you discuss it with at the time that it would be."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.954763471415276, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was very remote. It wasn't the first time there was a viral illness that was highly contagious that wasn't in this region. I just I never expected it to become a pandemic. I always thought it was just going to be an epidemic. So it wasn't really on my radar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you working during Ebola?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I was not. I was still in medical school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who did you who did you discuss it with at the time that it would be."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Family, coworkers, mostly family and coworkers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they agree with you?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.616403857128085, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I was not. I was still in medical school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who did you who did you discuss it with at the time that it would be."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Family, coworkers, mostly family and coworkers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they agree with you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn't really opinionated. It wasn't really a big conversation. I thought it just I truly just it wasn't really a big topic because it wasn't really affecting me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so. OK, so this would have been around January-February, yes?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.351559841253428, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Family, coworkers, mostly family and coworkers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they agree with you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn't really opinionated. It wasn't really a big conversation. I thought it just I truly just it wasn't really a big topic because it wasn't really affecting me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so. OK, so this would have been around January-February, yes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, probably. Yeah, probably January. It had been discussed, but it wasn't really- didn't really impact me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But can you describe how you were feeling about that time?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.16839982361492, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn't really opinionated. It wasn't really a big conversation. I thought it just I truly just it wasn't really a big topic because it wasn't really affecting me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so. OK, so this would have been around January-February, yes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, probably. Yeah, probably January. It had been discussed, but it wasn't really- didn't really impact me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But can you describe how you were feeling about that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, certainly curious about what was happening. I was, but I did not know. I did not know much about the details or how deadly it was or any specifics of the illness course. I remember just being a little bit curious, but also a little just, I guess, thankful that I didn't have to think about that. Or deal with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did this did your position or did your perception of this change at all before the first wave?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.964888692905465, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, probably. Yeah, probably January. It had been discussed, but it wasn't really- didn't really impact me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But can you describe how you were feeling about that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, certainly curious about what was happening. I was, but I did not know. I did not know much about the details or how deadly it was or any specifics of the illness course. I remember just being a little bit curious, but also a little just, I guess, thankful that I didn't have to think about that. Or deal with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did this did your position or did your perception of this change at all before the first wave?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, probably… I don’t remember exactly when it changed in terms of a timeline. But I think once it was more rampant in Italy, that's when it. That's when I realized that it was going to spread. And that's when I realized it was going to be a big strain on the health system. That's that's when my whole perception changed. I think there was an article that came out about how dire things were in Italy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember what newspaper?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.849876325450516, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, certainly curious about what was happening. I was, but I did not know. I did not know much about the details or how deadly it was or any specifics of the illness course. I remember just being a little bit curious, but also a little just, I guess, thankful that I didn't have to think about that. Or deal with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did this did your position or did your perception of this change at all before the first wave?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, probably… I don’t remember exactly when it changed in terms of a timeline. But I think once it was more rampant in Italy, that's when it. That's when I realized that it was going to spread. And that's when I realized it was going to be a big strain on the health system. That's that's when my whole perception changed. I think there was an article that came out about how dire things were in Italy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember what newspaper?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, something online. Yeah, there was something online. I really don't know what the source."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But did you have like a eureka moment when you realized how bad it was going to be?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.83319591716724, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, probably… I don’t remember exactly when it changed in terms of a timeline. But I think once it was more rampant in Italy, that's when it. That's when I realized that it was going to spread. And that's when I realized it was going to be a big strain on the health system. That's that's when my whole perception changed. I think there was an article that came out about how dire things were in Italy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember what newspaper?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, something online. Yeah, there was something online. I really don't know what the source."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But did you have like a eureka moment when you realized how bad it was going to be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think so. Again, I don't remember exactly when it was, but I remember becoming very anxious about the situation I remember feeling that I, I was anxious about the thought of having to decide who would qualify for a ventilator versus who wouldn't. That was my kind of panic moment when I thought I would have to make those decisions based on predicted supply shortages, ventilator shortages, things like that.\n\nThat's that's. That was that was hard for me. […]Fortunately, never came to that. And it never, ever came to that. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you didn't have ventilator shortages?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.925773241296932, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, something online. Yeah, there was something online. I really don't know what the source."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But did you have like a eureka moment when you realized how bad it was going to be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think so. Again, I don't remember exactly when it was, but I remember becoming very anxious about the situation I remember feeling that I, I was anxious about the thought of having to decide who would qualify for a ventilator versus who wouldn't. That was my kind of panic moment when I thought I would have to make those decisions based on predicted supply shortages, ventilator shortages, things like that.\n\nThat's that's. That was that was hard for me. […]Fortunately, never came to that. And it never, ever came to that. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you didn't have ventilator shortages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had we never had a shortage in terms of ‘we need to intubate somebody and we don't have a ventilator’. We were not abundant in ventilators. But we never had a moment where I cannot provide life sustaining treatment to this patient because we don't have the supply, that was not an impact, that didn’t impact me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was a problem in Italy, wasn't it?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.13974804588548, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think so. Again, I don't remember exactly when it was, but I remember becoming very anxious about the situation I remember feeling that I, I was anxious about the thought of having to decide who would qualify for a ventilator versus who wouldn't. That was my kind of panic moment when I thought I would have to make those decisions based on predicted supply shortages, ventilator shortages, things like that.\n\nThat's that's. That was that was hard for me. […]Fortunately, never came to that. And it never, ever came to that. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you didn't have ventilator shortages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had we never had a shortage in terms of ‘we need to intubate somebody and we don't have a ventilator’. We were not abundant in ventilators. But we never had a moment where I cannot provide life sustaining treatment to this patient because we don't have the supply, that was not an impact, that didn’t impact me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was a problem in Italy, wasn't it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I believe it was. Or at least they were saying it was going to be. Again, I don't I don't work in Italy. But I believe they were saying that that was the issue. Either they were saying that the current issue, they or they were saying it's going to be the issue based on predicted trends."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so once you saw this article and you realized what was going to happen, did you do anything to prepare?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.266386717650532, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had we never had a shortage in terms of ‘we need to intubate somebody and we don't have a ventilator’. We were not abundant in ventilators. But we never had a moment where I cannot provide life sustaining treatment to this patient because we don't have the supply, that was not an impact, that didn’t impact me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was a problem in Italy, wasn't it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I believe it was. Or at least they were saying it was going to be. Again, I don't I don't work in Italy. But I believe they were saying that that was the issue. Either they were saying that the current issue, they or they were saying it's going to be the issue based on predicted trends."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so once you saw this article and you realized what was going to happen, did you do anything to prepare?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Oh, yeah. Our whole department did. We… And it wasn't based on that. Article that our department prepared. I think I think just as as concern grew among, I think, the United States in general- And I think there was kind of a couple of weeks where concern started to mount among everyone. And once that happened, we started to prepare in terms of we bought as many masks as we could.\n\nWe bought PAPRs which are, you know, the PAPRs?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I've never heard it said like that. But yeah, P.A.P.R."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.6477468642745485, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, probably the first or second week, ehh, probably second week of March, first or second week of March. I don't know. Early March. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you personally like in your personal life, though, did you make any behavioral changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure, yeah. I mean, I stopped seeing my family, stopped seeing my friends, I didn't see my family for months. Which was very unusual for me. Prior to that, I had a tradition going where I would see my dad at least once a month for, you know, just to catch up. We've done that for years and years and years. Stopped doing that.\n\nI didn’t see my nephew...\n\nYeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was after those after March that you started doing this, did you stop doing anything in January or February?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the last I mean, I don't see my I didn't see my family that frequently. So I probably the last time I had seen them was early February anyway. But no, nothing in the first half of February, probably even the latter, probably the latter half of probably March. I don't think I made any real changes in early February, but then again, it just wasn't endemic to the region.\n\nSo there was no need to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And one more thing, you were you were a resident. Right. You were?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.053052071416165, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure, yeah. I mean, I stopped seeing my family, stopped seeing my friends, I didn't see my family for months. Which was very unusual for me. Prior to that, I had a tradition going where I would see my dad at least once a month for, you know, just to catch up. We've done that for years and years and years. Stopped doing that.\n\nI didn’t see my nephew...\n\nYeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was after those after March that you started doing this, did you stop doing anything in January or February?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the last I mean, I don't see my I didn't see my family that frequently. So I probably the last time I had seen them was early February anyway. But no, nothing in the first half of February, probably even the latter, probably the latter half of probably March. I don't think I made any real changes in early February, but then again, it just wasn't endemic to the region.\n\nSo there was no need to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And one more thing, you were you were a resident. Right. You were?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yep. I was a third year residenct, a senior resident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where does that fall in the hierarchy? In the E.R.."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.503391190462405, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the last I mean, I don't see my I didn't see my family that frequently. So I probably the last time I had seen them was early February anyway. But no, nothing in the first half of February, probably even the latter, probably the latter half of probably March. I don't think I made any real changes in early February, but then again, it just wasn't endemic to the region.\n\nSo there was no need to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And one more thing, you were you were a resident. Right. You were?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yep. I was a third year residenct, a senior resident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where does that fall in the hierarchy? In the E.R.."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who do you answer to? Who’s your immediate supervisor?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.003767989402672, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yep. I was a third year residenct, a senior resident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where does that fall in the hierarchy? In the E.R.."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who do you answer to? Who’s your immediate supervisor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the time? At the time, my attending physician yeah. The attending."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so who was organizing the trainings?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.559742210447412, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who do you answer to? Who’s your immediate supervisor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the time? At the time, my attending physician yeah. The attending."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so who was organizing the trainings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was our program leadership, our residency program leadership, who are also attendings, but they were the ones organizing those trainings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. Was there any kind of meetings or group discussions happening?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.177491344941569, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the time? At the time, my attending physician yeah. The attending."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so who was organizing the trainings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was our program leadership, our residency program leadership, who are also attendings, but they were the ones organizing those trainings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. Was there any kind of meetings or group discussions happening?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there were other meetings about how we would need to modify our curriculum going forward, how we would need to you know, we had once a week we would meet for didactics, for lectures, and we had to modify how we did that to modify we had to set up, obviously WebEx sessions, virtual sessions to continue with the curriculum.\n\nWe started creating a surge schedule for should residents or should anybody become sick? And we need people to work. So we started creating backup schedules. Backups for backups on… our critical care team needed additional staffing, so we started pulling our residents off of other rotations that they had been doing, to allow, to provide extra people to help on the critical care service.\n\nSo those were all meetings that were happening behind the scenes that I was a part of. I was I was a chief resident at the time, so I was pretty involved in all those decisions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was anyone pushing for more, more action early?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 6.863879272157299, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was our program leadership, our residency program leadership, who are also attendings, but they were the ones organizing those trainings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. Was there any kind of meetings or group discussions happening?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there were other meetings about how we would need to modify our curriculum going forward, how we would need to you know, we had once a week we would meet for didactics, for lectures, and we had to modify how we did that to modify we had to set up, obviously WebEx sessions, virtual sessions to continue with the curriculum.\n\nWe started creating a surge schedule for should residents or should anybody become sick? And we need people to work. So we started creating backup schedules. Backups for backups on… our critical care team needed additional staffing, so we started pulling our residents off of other rotations that they had been doing, to allow, to provide extra people to help on the critical care service.\n\nSo those were all meetings that were happening behind the scenes that I was a part of. I was I was a chief resident at the time, so I was pretty involved in all those decisions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was anyone pushing for more, more action early?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like was somebody trying to blow a whistle and nobody was listening? Not that I can recall. I don't think that was the case."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, so anything you wish that the hospital or that the organization had done differently?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.189134804056651, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I felt very, very fortunate to be part of my organization while this was happening. I thought that they prepared as best as they could have for it. I thought that they were extremely transparent with their communication. We had daily meetings with the hospital CEO. It was virtual, but we had daily meetings and I think it was a phone call where there was just updates everyday given about what was happening and I for me, really masks never became a huge supply issue.\n\nI never really ran into that issue where I didn't have an N95. So I always felt like I was taken care of in terms of my health and protection. I can't really say enough about how well my hospital handled the entire pandemic. Yeah. I feel very, very I feel very fortunate to have worked there and to continue to work there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You're lucky."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now. Yeah. I mean, a lot of my friends were not as fortunate. Personally... A lot of friends in New York City but it was it just wasn't the case for me. We saw a lot, took care of a lot of sick patients, but I never felt like I had to do so at the jeopardy of my own health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you guys get hit pretty hard?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.654594226729611, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You're lucky."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now. Yeah. I mean, a lot of my friends were not as fortunate. Personally... A lot of friends in New York City but it was it just wasn't the case for me. We saw a lot, took care of a lot of sick patients, but I never felt like I had to do so at the jeopardy of my own health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you guys get hit pretty hard?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, not again, not as hard as I think New York City, but we definitely we definitely were feeling the impact, but also the first wave was in conjunction with other patient volumes being down. So just the only people coming to the emergency department or essentially being intubated with covid. That's what it felt like. It was…."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so is there anything that you would have done differently as an individual?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.171771363032901, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now. Yeah. I mean, a lot of my friends were not as fortunate. Personally... A lot of friends in New York City but it was it just wasn't the case for me. We saw a lot, took care of a lot of sick patients, but I never felt like I had to do so at the jeopardy of my own health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you guys get hit pretty hard?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, not again, not as hard as I think New York City, but we definitely we definitely were feeling the impact, but also the first wave was in conjunction with other patient volumes being down. So just the only people coming to the emergency department or essentially being intubated with covid. That's what it felt like. It was…."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so is there anything that you would have done differently as an individual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never really thought about it. I can’t really- I just never really considered that, not off the top of my head."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, it's a hard question."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.635301514481001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, not again, not as hard as I think New York City, but we definitely we definitely were feeling the impact, but also the first wave was in conjunction with other patient volumes being down. So just the only people coming to the emergency department or essentially being intubated with covid. That's what it felt like. It was…."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so is there anything that you would have done differently as an individual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never really thought about it. I can’t really- I just never really considered that, not off the top of my head."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, it's a hard question."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, I still haven't gotten I still haven't gotten Covid, so I feel like I'm doing OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, same here. I feel like I'm one of the only ones."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.1503350160900006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never really thought about it. I can’t really- I just never really considered that, not off the top of my head."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, it's a hard question."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, I still haven't gotten I still haven't gotten Covid, so I feel like I'm doing OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, same here. I feel like I'm one of the only ones."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, not that I could think of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, I I just I tried to get it. My parents got it in the first wave and I went back from I was in Thailand at the time and went back to, you know, make sure, like, care for them. And, yeah, I wasn't wearing a mask or anything. I was like, give it to me now. I'm healthy.\n\nI have plenty spices in my body."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.500372240100001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, I still haven't gotten I still haven't gotten Covid, so I feel like I'm doing OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, same here. I feel like I'm one of the only ones."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, not that I could think of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, I I just I tried to get it. My parents got it in the first wave and I went back from I was in Thailand at the time and went back to, you know, make sure, like, care for them. And, yeah, I wasn't wearing a mask or anything. I was like, give it to me now. I'm healthy.\n\nI have plenty spices in my body."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel glad I didn't get it, but, you know, maybe if I could do one thing different, maybe I would've started masking earlier. Probably was a lot of confusion on if you should be wearing a mask. If you shouldn't, it's can cause you to touch your face more. But I feel like I was just gone based off the best recommendations from the CDC that I could have at that time.\n\nWell, if I could go back and change one thing that probably would have mask earlier, I actually remember seeing a guy on the plane, the guy on a plane at the end of February. I was on a plane and he was running gloves and a mask, and I was kind of stuck that's pretty extra, but I think he had it right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I remember I remember flying back in through Boston and there's, you know, in the line, you know, all of us were crowded in this terminal for customs. Nobody's wearing a mask. They're customs officers not wearing a mask. And there's this these two black girls who are wearing the like the eye coverings from the plane over their over their mouth because they saw everyone wearing a mask and they didn’t have anything."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8893024890000008, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, not that I could think of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, I I just I tried to get it. My parents got it in the first wave and I went back from I was in Thailand at the time and went back to, you know, make sure, like, care for them. And, yeah, I wasn't wearing a mask or anything. I was like, give it to me now. I'm healthy.\n\nI have plenty spices in my body."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel glad I didn't get it, but, you know, maybe if I could do one thing different, maybe I would've started masking earlier. Probably was a lot of confusion on if you should be wearing a mask. If you shouldn't, it's can cause you to touch your face more. But I feel like I was just gone based off the best recommendations from the CDC that I could have at that time.\n\nWell, if I could go back and change one thing that probably would have mask earlier, I actually remember seeing a guy on the plane, the guy on a plane at the end of February. I was on a plane and he was running gloves and a mask, and I was kind of stuck that's pretty extra, but I think he had it right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I remember I remember flying back in through Boston and there's, you know, in the line, you know, all of us were crowded in this terminal for customs. Nobody's wearing a mask. They're customs officers not wearing a mask. And there's this these two black girls who are wearing the like the eye coverings from the plane over their over their mouth because they saw everyone wearing a mask and they didn’t have anything."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they’re smart."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Improv. So you generally like went by what the CDC was saying?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.3214472100000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel glad I didn't get it, but, you know, maybe if I could do one thing different, maybe I would've started masking earlier. Probably was a lot of confusion on if you should be wearing a mask. If you shouldn't, it's can cause you to touch your face more. But I feel like I was just gone based off the best recommendations from the CDC that I could have at that time.\n\nWell, if I could go back and change one thing that probably would have mask earlier, I actually remember seeing a guy on the plane, the guy on a plane at the end of February. I was on a plane and he was running gloves and a mask, and I was kind of stuck that's pretty extra, but I think he had it right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I remember I remember flying back in through Boston and there's, you know, in the line, you know, all of us were crowded in this terminal for customs. Nobody's wearing a mask. They're customs officers not wearing a mask. And there's this these two black girls who are wearing the like the eye coverings from the plane over their over their mouth because they saw everyone wearing a mask and they didn’t have anything."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they’re smart."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Improv. So you generally like went by what the CDC was saying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, there was really no other advice we could go off of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any, in in your hospital, were there any like older doctors that everyone looked up to?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.6904969000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they’re smart."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Improv. So you generally like went by what the CDC was saying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, there was really no other advice we could go off of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any, in in your hospital, were there any like older doctors that everyone looked up to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, our infection prevention team was in charge of a lot of the recommendations for our organization. And that was part of those daily meetings at 5:00 I remember. We would get updates on them and updates on they were doing meetings daily, basically briefings. And the idea was you would call into the meeting. It was not mandatory but it was available to you if you would like.\n\nAnd it was hospital wide. You can join whether you were a physician, a nurse, a tech, an environmental service cafeteria worker, you know, it was open for everyone to participate in kind of what are the updates and what are the recommendations. And a lot of that was a lot of the policies were crafted by our infection prevention team. So I think what I think they were taking the CDC's recommendations and then combining that with, I don't know, they're just going by their recommendations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when those meetings started?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.9894410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, there was really no other advice we could go off of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any, in in your hospital, were there any like older doctors that everyone looked up to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, our infection prevention team was in charge of a lot of the recommendations for our organization. And that was part of those daily meetings at 5:00 I remember. We would get updates on them and updates on they were doing meetings daily, basically briefings. And the idea was you would call into the meeting. It was not mandatory but it was available to you if you would like.\n\nAnd it was hospital wide. You can join whether you were a physician, a nurse, a tech, an environmental service cafeteria worker, you know, it was open for everyone to participate in kind of what are the updates and what are the recommendations. And a lot of that was a lot of the policies were crafted by our infection prevention team. So I think what I think they were taking the CDC's recommendations and then combining that with, I don't know, they're just going by their recommendations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when those meetings started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometime in March? I remember one sometime in March, probably. Probably middle to middle to second half of March. Would make the most sense, I’m trying to recall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And was your wave concurrent with the one in New York?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.21049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, our infection prevention team was in charge of a lot of the recommendations for our organization. And that was part of those daily meetings at 5:00 I remember. We would get updates on them and updates on they were doing meetings daily, basically briefings. And the idea was you would call into the meeting. It was not mandatory but it was available to you if you would like.\n\nAnd it was hospital wide. You can join whether you were a physician, a nurse, a tech, an environmental service cafeteria worker, you know, it was open for everyone to participate in kind of what are the updates and what are the recommendations. And a lot of that was a lot of the policies were crafted by our infection prevention team. So I think what I think they were taking the CDC's recommendations and then combining that with, I don't know, they're just going by their recommendations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when those meetings started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometime in March? I remember one sometime in March, probably. Probably middle to middle to second half of March. Would make the most sense, I’m trying to recall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And was your wave concurrent with the one in New York?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was usually, it lagged. Usually one to two weeks, I think, because it took time for a kind of trickle down [state] and then to the area so it certainly lagged a little bit, but not not far after."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I was speaking with someone at [organization] in New York and they were they said that in the E.R. they had a real, real trouble separating the COVID patients from the COVID patients. Or separating the suspected COVID patients."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4561, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometime in March? I remember one sometime in March, probably. Probably middle to middle to second half of March. Would make the most sense, I’m trying to recall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And was your wave concurrent with the one in New York?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was usually, it lagged. Usually one to two weeks, I think, because it took time for a kind of trickle down [state] and then to the area so it certainly lagged a little bit, but not not far after."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I was speaking with someone at [organization] in New York and they were they said that in the E.R. they had a real, real trouble separating the COVID patients from the COVID patients. Or separating the suspected COVID patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you what did you guys do to to keep the separate COVID patients isolated?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.729, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was usually, it lagged. Usually one to two weeks, I think, because it took time for a kind of trickle down [state] and then to the area so it certainly lagged a little bit, but not not far after."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I was speaking with someone at [organization] in New York and they were they said that in the E.R. they had a real, real trouble separating the COVID patients from the COVID patients. Or separating the suspected COVID patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you what did you guys do to to keep the separate COVID patients isolated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Honestly, for the first time that I had ever worked at that hospital, we had we had enough- usually we’re just overrun with patients, like right now, too many patients. So at that time, that was not the case. People weren't coming to the hospital. We were able to put them in rooms. So that help isolate them. These people who were suspected Covid positive, we were able to get them into a room. we only had two negative pressure rooms, I think.\n\nSo we tried to prioritize those patients for people who are going to be intubated requiring any sort of aerosolized procedure. But at the very least, we tried to get suspected covid positive patients in a room and not a hallway bed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so looking back at this, you know, this pre crisis period, so from from the time you learned about it to the time you really start getting hit. What would you like to tell me about the way you were feeling?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so, I don't think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how would you describe the mood of the other doctors in the E.R."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They vary very based on people's risk factors. Right. I think there are some people who were very frightened and I think there were a lot of people who took a lot of pride in their job at that time. I know a lot of people who felt that this was our specialty’s moment to kind of show what we do know.\n\nAnd I think I shared that sentiment also. I wasn't really concerned for myself, so I didn't have that. You know, I don't have any comorbidities or underlying risk factors I got. It's not that I thought the virus was fake. I just felt that if there's anybody here that should do this, you know, I'll be OK should something happen, and I think a lot of people felt that way.\n\nAnd I think a lot of people just felt pride in our specialty. At least from the physicians’ standpoint, you know, I don't know I don't know what the nurses were feeling at that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any outliers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can't I, I can't even think, it was it was like a moment where people just rallied right? It was the initial phase. You know, you think of 9/11, right. Where people just rallied and they came together and they there was a huge found of community like this feeling of community. And at the time, patriotism, we'll call it.\n\nI think people kind of rallied. People wanted to help out in any way they could, whether it was some of my colleagues who volunteered to work extra shifts or work extra, you know, potentially be on the surge schedule I was creating or the community members who just wanted to send bagels and pizza, you know?. Right. Like, I don't know.\n\nPeople were just I think that was just the sense of across the country, people wanted to do something I think I felt similar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was there any sense of like shared panic at any points?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can't I, I can't even think, it was it was like a moment where people just rallied right? It was the initial phase. You know, you think of 9/11, right. Where people just rallied and they came together and they there was a huge found of community like this feeling of community. And at the time, patriotism, we'll call it.\n\nI think people kind of rallied. People wanted to help out in any way they could, whether it was some of my colleagues who volunteered to work extra shifts or work extra, you know, potentially be on the surge schedule I was creating or the community members who just wanted to send bagels and pizza, you know?. Right. Like, I don't know.\n\nPeople were just I think that was just the sense of across the country, people wanted to do something I think I felt similar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was there any sense of like shared panic at any points?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we never panicked. No, no, no. I I mean, this could sound hokey, but emergency doctors, we don't panic. It's not you know, we don't we just don't panic. Nobody panicked. I think we planned and then we acted accordingly. I think there was definitely some anxiety among some people, you know, including myself, like I mentioned earlier. But overall, the feeling was was, you know, we can do this or that we’ll do this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so is there any question that you think I should have asked you that I didn't?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that I could think of off the top my head. Honestly, I'd really never reflected that much on that time. So I don't think I have PTSD. But, you know, I just never, ever really thought back and reflected on that time that much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't think about my time as an EMT much either."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we never panicked. No, no, no. I I mean, this could sound hokey, but emergency doctors, we don't panic. It's not you know, we don't we just don't panic. Nobody panicked. I think we planned and then we acted accordingly. I think there was definitely some anxiety among some people, you know, including myself, like I mentioned earlier. But overall, the feeling was was, you know, we can do this or that we’ll do this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so is there any question that you think I should have asked you that I didn't?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that I could think of off the top my head. Honestly, I'd really never reflected that much on that time. So I don't think I have PTSD. But, you know, I just never, ever really thought back and reflected on that time that much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't think about my time as an EMT much either."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And is there anything else that you'd like to tell me."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00007:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that I could think of off the top my head. Honestly, I'd really never reflected that much on that time. So I don't think I have PTSD. But, you know, I just never, ever really thought back and reflected on that time that much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't think about my time as an EMT much either."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And is there anything else that you'd like to tell me."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you could describe, you know, the period of January through January to March in a sentence or two."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8147902986546596, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, my internet connections been a bit jumpy this morning. So if I freeze or you freeze, so I might just ask you to repeat stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, not, not a problem at all. So the first statement I confirm that I have read the information sheet for this study. I've had the opportunity to consider this information asked questions and have these questions answered satisfactorily."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that my participation is voluntary, and then I am free to withdraw at any time without giving any reason. I also understand that I can decline to answer any questions during the interview."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I Understand the information collected during my interview will be looked at by other researchers from Newcastle University who are working on or assisting with the study and I give permission for these individuals to have access to that information."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.238655887394066, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that my participation is voluntary, and then I am free to withdraw at any time without giving any reason. I also understand that I can decline to answer any questions during the interview."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I Understand the information collected during my interview will be looked at by other researchers from Newcastle University who are working on or assisting with the study and I give permission for these individuals to have access to that information."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that information collected during the interview may be shared with other researchers for use in future research or teaching purposes and that the data will be thoroughly anonymized first"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.709617652660073, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I Understand the information collected during my interview will be looked at by other researchers from Newcastle University who are working on or assisting with the study and I give permission for these individuals to have access to that information."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that information collected during the interview may be shared with other researchers for use in future research or teaching purposes and that the data will be thoroughly anonymized first"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that the interview will be audio video recorded, typed out and all identifying personal details will be removed."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.232908502955637, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that information collected during the interview may be shared with other researchers for use in future research or teaching purposes and that the data will be thoroughly anonymized first"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that the interview will be audio video recorded, typed out and all identifying personal details will be removed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I Understand that direct quotations may be taken from what I say and used in research and publications, but that I will not be identifiable from these quotation."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.814342781061819, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that the interview will be audio video recorded, typed out and all identifying personal details will be removed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I Understand that direct quotations may be taken from what I say and used in research and publications, but that I will not be identifiable from these quotation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I agree to take part in this study."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.460380867846465, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I Understand that direct quotations may be taken from what I say and used in research and publications, but that I will not be identifiable from these quotation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I agree to take part in this study."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you'd like to receive a copy of the research findings, you can tell me now and I'll send those to you have"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.17820096427385, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I agree to take part in this study."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you'd like to receive a copy of the research findings, you can tell me now and I'll send those to you have"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would be great. Yeah. Thank you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And would you like to receive a hard copy of the study documents? I can mail them to you."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.975778849193166, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you'd like to receive a copy of the research findings, you can tell me now and I'll send those to you have"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would be great. Yeah. Thank you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And would you like to receive a hard copy of the study documents? I can mail them to you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thats fine, yeah, no need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right. And can you just say your name for me. And today's date, please. It's 18 June."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.750865387992406, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would be great. Yeah. Thank you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And would you like to receive a hard copy of the study documents? I can mail them to you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thats fine, yeah, no need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right. And can you just say your name for me. And today's date, please. It's 18 June."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Participant 04 and and it's the 18th of June 2020."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am Tim price and it is the 18th of June.\n\nYeah, that's the hardest question I asked in the interview, that's what today's date is I really like to put people on the spot with that."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.612072653324896, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thats fine, yeah, no need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right. And can you just say your name for me. And today's date, please. It's 18 June."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Participant 04 and and it's the 18th of June 2020."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am Tim price and it is the 18th of June.\n\nYeah, that's the hardest question I asked in the interview, that's what today's date is I really like to put people on the spot with that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thankfully, just tells me in the bottom corner of my screen. Because if not I wouldn't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, alright, so that's that out of the way so we can go ahead and get started. So you have two children. Right? You said they are two and five years old?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 9.56896961480544, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Participant 04 and and it's the 18th of June 2020."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am Tim price and it is the 18th of June.\n\nYeah, that's the hardest question I asked in the interview, that's what today's date is I really like to put people on the spot with that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thankfully, just tells me in the bottom corner of my screen. Because if not I wouldn't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, alright, so that's that out of the way so we can go ahead and get started. So you have two children. Right? You said they are two and five years old?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Both girls? Both boys?\n\nTwo Boys. and has the five year old. Like, would the five year old be in school yet or not yet?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.40996623867271, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thankfully, just tells me in the bottom corner of my screen. Because if not I wouldn't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, alright, so that's that out of the way so we can go ahead and get started. So you have two children. Right? You said they are two and five years old?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Both girls? Both boys?\n\nTwo Boys. and has the five year old. Like, would the five year old be in school yet or not yet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yeah, so he's in year one at the moment. Yeah, so he's in his second year at school, really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And neither of them had the flu vaccine. This year, right?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.233295820747456, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Both girls? Both boys?\n\nTwo Boys. and has the five year old. Like, would the five year old be in school yet or not yet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yeah, so he's in year one at the moment. Yeah, so he's in his second year at school, really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And neither of them had the flu vaccine. This year, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, you know what the five year old. I think did, does that mean-- yeah I thought about that this morning. I think he had the spray before the end of last calendar year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, well, they, they do it in school. So a lot of the kids who are, you know, once they've started school, it becomes sometimes a little easier to have them vaccinated right there in the school, but the younger the two year old has not had it that you know of?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.148106467497172, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yeah, so he's in year one at the moment. Yeah, so he's in his second year at school, really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And neither of them had the flu vaccine. This year, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, you know what the five year old. I think did, does that mean-- yeah I thought about that this morning. I think he had the spray before the end of last calendar year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, well, they, they do it in school. So a lot of the kids who are, you know, once they've started school, it becomes sometimes a little easier to have them vaccinated right there in the school, but the younger the two year old has not had it that you know of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, he definitely definitely hasn't no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what, what's his name, the younger one?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.164562741663524, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, you know what the five year old. I think did, does that mean-- yeah I thought about that this morning. I think he had the spray before the end of last calendar year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, well, they, they do it in school. So a lot of the kids who are, you know, once they've started school, it becomes sometimes a little easier to have them vaccinated right there in the school, but the younger the two year old has not had it that you know of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, he definitely definitely hasn't no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what, what's his name, the younger one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The younger one is [Younger Child]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Younger Child] and the older?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 11.29395860184836, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, he definitely definitely hasn't no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what, what's his name, the younger one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The younger one is [Younger Child]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Younger Child] and the older?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is [Older Child]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Older Child]. So, what do they get up to these days? Are they, you know, hows everyone doing? [laughter]"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.993287335387066, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The younger one is [Younger Child]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Younger Child] and the older?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is [Older Child]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Older Child]. So, what do they get up to these days? Are they, you know, hows everyone doing? [laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, [Older Child]'s discovered Roblox, which is a, I don't know if you know it's a game basically on the iPad so he's he's six on the sixth of July. He's getting a Nintendo Switch for his-- I should see that really quietly. But he's yeah, he'se into, getting into all of that, which is a lot younger than I would have thought and maybe hoped and all but. He also, I mean in the minute He's missing his friends, you know, he loves to play with his friends. Either [inaudible]. He's you know he's one of these people here he is a bit of a rebel at home, but at school he likes structure and he listens to what other people tell him to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He behaves for everyone else."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.300354735045761, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, [Older Child]'s discovered Roblox, which is a, I don't know if you know it's a game basically on the iPad so he's he's six on the sixth of July. He's getting a Nintendo Switch for his-- I should see that really quietly. But he's yeah, he'se into, getting into all of that, which is a lot younger than I would have thought and maybe hoped and all but. He also, I mean in the minute He's missing his friends, you know, he loves to play with his friends. Either [inaudible]. He's you know he's one of these people here he is a bit of a rebel at home, but at school he likes structure and he listens to what other people tell him to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He behaves for everyone else."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly. But he's the first child. So, he spoiled. So really, we've created the monster that we live with. You reap what you sow is what they say and thats true with [Older Child]. [Younger Child] is a lot more crazy than [Older Child] was sauce as a toddler, super strong willed, loves to play, but is also very affectionate and actually they're both really affectionate boys. But being stuck in lockdown. They've been fighting a lot"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Proper wrestle fighting now. You know he'd be three in September, but he's tough. He thinks he's five"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah, I cannot imagine. I had two brothers growing up and I cannot imagine what we would have put my mother through if we'd been on lockdown with all of us, so I'm impressed by your by your persistence or determination or whatever it is."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.889283038939734, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly. But he's the first child. So, he spoiled. So really, we've created the monster that we live with. You reap what you sow is what they say and thats true with [Older Child]. [Younger Child] is a lot more crazy than [Older Child] was sauce as a toddler, super strong willed, loves to play, but is also very affectionate and actually they're both really affectionate boys. But being stuck in lockdown. They've been fighting a lot"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Proper wrestle fighting now. You know he'd be three in September, but he's tough. He thinks he's five"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah, I cannot imagine. I had two brothers growing up and I cannot imagine what we would have put my mother through if we'd been on lockdown with all of us, so I'm impressed by your by your persistence or determination or whatever it is."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No choice, no choice in the matter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah that’s true. Your ability to cope then. [Laughter]"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.543647821044149, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Proper wrestle fighting now. You know he'd be three in September, but he's tough. He thinks he's five"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah, I cannot imagine. I had two brothers growing up and I cannot imagine what we would have put my mother through if we'd been on lockdown with all of us, so I'm impressed by your by your persistence or determination or whatever it is."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No choice, no choice in the matter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah that’s true. Your ability to cope then. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, wine. That's what, that's what parents are doing at the minute to get through."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. I, you know, you're certainly not alone in that that's already a theme I've seen in these interviews, a lot of rambunctious children at home. For the most part they do well?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.2707198011601655, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No choice, no choice in the matter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah that’s true. Your ability to cope then. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, wine. That's what, that's what parents are doing at the minute to get through."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. I, you know, you're certainly not alone in that that's already a theme I've seen in these interviews, a lot of rambunctious children at home. For the most part they do well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just think I just block out the craziness and just try and enjoy the, the really funny stuff that kids come out with things that they see. I just, yeah. Hilarious. So"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, that's, I think, that's nice. I mean, whatever, whatever you've got to do to to get through. Right."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.078577556844628, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, wine. That's what, that's what parents are doing at the minute to get through."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. I, you know, you're certainly not alone in that that's already a theme I've seen in these interviews, a lot of rambunctious children at home. For the most part they do well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just think I just block out the craziness and just try and enjoy the, the really funny stuff that kids come out with things that they see. I just, yeah. Hilarious. So"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, that's, I think, that's nice. I mean, whatever, whatever you've got to do to to get through. Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me what you know about the flu. Just like in general kind of first first thoughts about the flu."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.865086174271809, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just think I just block out the craziness and just try and enjoy the, the really funny stuff that kids come out with things that they see. I just, yeah. Hilarious. So"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, that's, I think, that's nice. I mean, whatever, whatever you've got to do to to get through. Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me what you know about the flu. Just like in general kind of first first thoughts about the flu."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That it's possibly rarer than people think. So most people when they're ill think that they've got the flu when actually they we maybe haven't. Typically the flu would absolutely floor you, you know, you'd be incredibly sick high temperature in bed feeling really lethargic aches, pains, that kind of thing. And the different strands each year. So it's something which changes therefore is hard. When it comes to things like vaccines to be absolutely sure you know that you're, yeah you don't get the vaccine and then you're completely immune from getting flu. and obviously if you're healthy, you're going to cope a lot better than if you're if you're ill, or if you're immunocompromised and yeah that's you know when it's dangerous to get it so that kind of things. I think of immediately."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's great. So as far as symptoms you said like really high temperature you know, lethargic, at all that kind of stuff. Um, how, like, how is that are those are the things you would look out for, if you thought your child was getting the flu or is there anything else like you would expect to see if your kids got the flu?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.482008792180001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "While we said earlier that you know we realize it doesn't cover all strands of flu and that if he got flu and it wouldn't be, I don't think it would seriously, seriously impact on him. I'm not, you know, not massively concerned, obviously you want to do anything that you can to protect your child. So if someone's going to offer you something which could potentially stop them from being poorly, then I'm more than happy to take, you know, to take that. What was the question again Tim?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, what do you think the benefits are of having a child vaccinated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um benefit. Yeah. Again, as I mentioned benefit to the wider family and you know that if he's not going to bring that home to to us. It will protect us as parents, but also with protect [Older Child]. And a lot about taking responsibility in society, really, that if this is something which could stop somebody more vulnerable getting it. So [Older Child], you know, he might be fine. But he may be starting to get the virus, the flu, and be contagious. I take him to a soft play and there's somebody there who's pregnant or there's somebody there, whose child is playing, but has asthma or, you know, and he passed that on, then I think that there's some social responsibility to vaccinate your child, if it's available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, so it's like, you know, there's a benefit to your child. And then there's like a wider, like collective benefit."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's interesting. Do you think there are any downsides to having your child get the flu vaccine?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.091120880200001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um benefit. Yeah. Again, as I mentioned benefit to the wider family and you know that if he's not going to bring that home to to us. It will protect us as parents, but also with protect [Older Child]. And a lot about taking responsibility in society, really, that if this is something which could stop somebody more vulnerable getting it. So [Older Child], you know, he might be fine. But he may be starting to get the virus, the flu, and be contagious. I take him to a soft play and there's somebody there who's pregnant or there's somebody there, whose child is playing, but has asthma or, you know, and he passed that on, then I think that there's some social responsibility to vaccinate your child, if it's available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, so it's like, you know, there's a benefit to your child. And then there's like a wider, like collective benefit."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's interesting. Do you think there are any downsides to having your child get the flu vaccine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't, no. I think there's a lot of stuff out there, isn't there? The anit-vax debate and all. and I think that while I don't think the government always does stuff right, and the NHS doesn't always do stuff right, I don't think that they would do anything to harm, you know, children. And I don't think that, I don't think they would make the the massive expense, you know, financially. So I just, yeah, I don't think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, so if you want to learn more about a vaccine like the flu vaccine, you know, things like not just what are the benefits, what are the side effects, but, you know, things like who is it recommended for how do I get it, where would you go to get that information?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.656800978000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's interesting. Do you think there are any downsides to having your child get the flu vaccine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't, no. I think there's a lot of stuff out there, isn't there? The anit-vax debate and all. and I think that while I don't think the government always does stuff right, and the NHS doesn't always do stuff right, I don't think that they would do anything to harm, you know, children. And I don't think that, I don't think they would make the the massive expense, you know, financially. So I just, yeah, I don't think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, so if you want to learn more about a vaccine like the flu vaccine, you know, things like not just what are the benefits, what are the side effects, but, you know, things like who is it recommended for how do I get it, where would you go to get that information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would, yeah, that would be the NHS or Public Health England or, you know, an official kind of government health site."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, all online stuff? there aren't any other resources yould use?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.285334420000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't, no. I think there's a lot of stuff out there, isn't there? The anit-vax debate and all. and I think that while I don't think the government always does stuff right, and the NHS doesn't always do stuff right, I don't think that they would do anything to harm, you know, children. And I don't think that, I don't think they would make the the massive expense, you know, financially. So I just, yeah, I don't think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, so if you want to learn more about a vaccine like the flu vaccine, you know, things like not just what are the benefits, what are the side effects, but, you know, things like who is it recommended for how do I get it, where would you go to get that information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would, yeah, that would be the NHS or Public Health England or, you know, an official kind of government health site."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, all online stuff? there aren't any other resources yould use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that school one sent. So with the older child not with [Younger Child], but I would expect it follow the same process, you would be given a leaflet. You know, and you would be given a consent form. If you weren't taking them to the doctor yourself to do it. So yeah, so that would be that kind of written format and when we took [Older Child] to get his, before he started school, we took him to the GP and obviously just spoke to the nurse and said, and I probably asked her \"Is it likely to have any side effects?\" and, you know, she would have explained, maybe some anecdotal stuff as well as some official stuff. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Um, so as far as, you know, [Older Child] got the vaccine through school and [Younger Child] has not had the vaccine. So, was it a decision that you made not to have [Younger Child] the vaccine or was it something that sort of happened? Like can you walk you me through sort of what that was like."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.872593800000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would, yeah, that would be the NHS or Public Health England or, you know, an official kind of government health site."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, all online stuff? there aren't any other resources yould use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that school one sent. So with the older child not with [Younger Child], but I would expect it follow the same process, you would be given a leaflet. You know, and you would be given a consent form. If you weren't taking them to the doctor yourself to do it. So yeah, so that would be that kind of written format and when we took [Older Child] to get his, before he started school, we took him to the GP and obviously just spoke to the nurse and said, and I probably asked her \"Is it likely to have any side effects?\" and, you know, she would have explained, maybe some anecdotal stuff as well as some official stuff. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Um, so as far as, you know, [Older Child] got the vaccine through school and [Younger Child] has not had the vaccine. So, was it a decision that you made not to have [Younger Child] the vaccine or was it something that sort of happened? Like can you walk you me through sort of what that was like."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tim, we, we haven't been offered it for [Younger Child]. So I'm not sure if, I'm not sure what happened last, last year. But we weren't offered it. I don't know whether. Did they just offer it to children who are three? or I'm not entirely sure why we haven't. But I certainly didn't explore it either."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has he, has he like just turned two years old?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.302882, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that school one sent. So with the older child not with [Younger Child], but I would expect it follow the same process, you would be given a leaflet. You know, and you would be given a consent form. If you weren't taking them to the doctor yourself to do it. So yeah, so that would be that kind of written format and when we took [Older Child] to get his, before he started school, we took him to the GP and obviously just spoke to the nurse and said, and I probably asked her \"Is it likely to have any side effects?\" and, you know, she would have explained, maybe some anecdotal stuff as well as some official stuff. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Um, so as far as, you know, [Older Child] got the vaccine through school and [Younger Child] has not had the vaccine. So, was it a decision that you made not to have [Younger Child] the vaccine or was it something that sort of happened? Like can you walk you me through sort of what that was like."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tim, we, we haven't been offered it for [Younger Child]. So I'm not sure if, I'm not sure what happened last, last year. But we weren't offered it. I don't know whether. Did they just offer it to children who are three? or I'm not entirely sure why we haven't. But I certainly didn't explore it either."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has he, has he like just turned two years old?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was August that he was two so..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I'm, you know, I'm not sure. And I would be, you know, more question for his doctor, as far as why he you know, if it is recommended for him if he should have it. My understanding of what the recommendations from Public Health England is that children who are, two, three and four years old, you know, before they're in school should receive the vaccination. So you haven't you know you were never contacted about it? Nobody ever brought it up with you?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.7809800000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tim, we, we haven't been offered it for [Younger Child]. So I'm not sure if, I'm not sure what happened last, last year. But we weren't offered it. I don't know whether. Did they just offer it to children who are three? or I'm not entirely sure why we haven't. But I certainly didn't explore it either."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has he, has he like just turned two years old?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was August that he was two so..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I'm, you know, I'm not sure. And I would be, you know, more question for his doctor, as far as why he you know, if it is recommended for him if he should have it. My understanding of what the recommendations from Public Health England is that children who are, two, three and four years old, you know, before they're in school should receive the vaccination. So you haven't you know you were never contacted about it? Nobody ever brought it up with you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no. And I think, I think, actually, when [Older Child] had it he didn't have it until he was three. I wonder if it's something which the local trust doesn't offer it until they're three?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I'm not sure."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 5.312200000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was August that he was two so..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I'm, you know, I'm not sure. And I would be, you know, more question for his doctor, as far as why he you know, if it is recommended for him if he should have it. My understanding of what the recommendations from Public Health England is that children who are, two, three and four years old, you know, before they're in school should receive the vaccination. So you haven't you know you were never contacted about it? Nobody ever brought it up with you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no. And I think, I think, actually, when [Older Child] had it he didn't have it until he was three. I wonder if it's something which the local trust doesn't offer it until they're three?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I'm not sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm not sure, but honestly, it didn't actually occur to me to investigate. I just took it there. Yeah, unless somebody told me. He did have his, like developmental check, and they asked if all of his immunizations were up to date, which they were. They didn't ask about the flu vaccine, didn't say anything about it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, and was that, was that appointment with this birthday in August that that happened, or is that?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4580000000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no. And I think, I think, actually, when [Older Child] had it he didn't have it until he was three. I wonder if it's something which the local trust doesn't offer it until they're three?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I'm not sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm not sure, but honestly, it didn't actually occur to me to investigate. I just took it there. Yeah, unless somebody told me. He did have his, like developmental check, and they asked if all of his immunizations were up to date, which they were. They didn't ask about the flu vaccine, didn't say anything about it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, and was that, was that appointment with this birthday in August that that happened, or is that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It didn't happen until the start of the year. I think they're always a bit behind in Newcastle. There's quite a big delay. I think health Health severices have got absolutely massive case loads and they just tend to put their classic. \"What would have been the two year check\" I think the form it might be better to say \"between two and three years check and they hope to see you in that interim and that you know if you've got any problems you you would act. But yeah, he was quite late with that check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I'm so you said that I think that it hadn't occurred to you to even, you know, look into it or anything. It just isn't, just didn't occur to you as something that was an option really?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.62, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm not sure, but honestly, it didn't actually occur to me to investigate. I just took it there. Yeah, unless somebody told me. He did have his, like developmental check, and they asked if all of his immunizations were up to date, which they were. They didn't ask about the flu vaccine, didn't say anything about it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, and was that, was that appointment with this birthday in August that that happened, or is that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It didn't happen until the start of the year. I think they're always a bit behind in Newcastle. There's quite a big delay. I think health Health severices have got absolutely massive case loads and they just tend to put their classic. \"What would have been the two year check\" I think the form it might be better to say \"between two and three years check and they hope to see you in that interim and that you know if you've got any problems you you would act. But yeah, he was quite late with that check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I'm so you said that I think that it hadn't occurred to you to even, you know, look into it or anything. It just isn't, just didn't occur to you as something that was an option really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like sort of what you're saying is that there wasn't really a decision at all. It was like there was nothing. And then you realize that there may have been an option. At some point, but you never really know that option was there. Is that right or have I misunderstood?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It didn't happen until the start of the year. I think they're always a bit behind in Newcastle. There's quite a big delay. I think health Health severices have got absolutely massive case loads and they just tend to put their classic. \"What would have been the two year check\" I think the form it might be better to say \"between two and three years check and they hope to see you in that interim and that you know if you've got any problems you you would act. But yeah, he was quite late with that check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I'm so you said that I think that it hadn't occurred to you to even, you know, look into it or anything. It just isn't, just didn't occur to you as something that was an option really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like sort of what you're saying is that there wasn't really a decision at all. It was like there was nothing. And then you realize that there may have been an option. At some point, but you never really know that option was there. Is that right or have I misunderstood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's absolutely right. Yeah. Yeah. And if, if the option had come up, I would have done it, you know, that would, I would have. I would just, you know, he would have had it, but that just didn't come up"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's interesting. Thank you. So, my last few questions Are to help me learn your thoughts kind of vaccination as a whole. So, has [Younger Child], you know, the younger child received any other vaccinations, like all the routine childhood ones?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00003:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like sort of what you're saying is that there wasn't really a decision at all. It was like there was nothing. And then you realize that there may have been an option. At some point, but you never really know that option was there. Is that right or have I misunderstood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's absolutely right. Yeah. Yeah. And if, if the option had come up, I would have done it, you know, that would, I would have. I would just, you know, he would have had it, but that just didn't come up"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's interesting. Thank you. So, my last few questions Are to help me learn your thoughts kind of vaccination as a whole. So, has [Younger Child], you know, the younger child received any other vaccinations, like all the routine childhood ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, he's up to date with everything which is recommended."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And as far as deciding to have him receive those vaccinations. Was that something that you, you know, you researched in the same way, kind of, that we've talked about NHS website, all those other resources or?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:6", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.025961127334142, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was probably April."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Um, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. I mean, this is very interesting stuff, um, where do you work again? So, so just to be clear, if you're directly quoted in this, in this paper, it's going to be under a pseudonym and any reference to your organization is not going to name the organization directly. Mm hmm. OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, so I work at [hospital]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that in PA or New Jersey?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:8", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.917734585926823, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Um, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. I mean, this is very interesting stuff, um, where do you work again? So, so just to be clear, if you're directly quoted in this, in this paper, it's going to be under a pseudonym and any reference to your organization is not going to name the organization directly. Mm hmm. OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, so I work at [hospital]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that in PA or New Jersey?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "New Jersey, we're the New Jersey branch of [group]. So but we're really technically a small we're three there's a set of three community hospitals that were part of the [group] system that got bought out by [group]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you're an OR nurse, correct?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:10", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 21.019705095474247, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, so I work at [hospital]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that in PA or New Jersey?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "New Jersey, we're the New Jersey branch of [group]. So but we're really technically a small we're three there's a set of three community hospitals that were part of the [group] system that got bought out by [group]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you're an OR nurse, correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Correct."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that's what you were doing in January. 2020?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:12", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 23.355227883860273, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "New Jersey, we're the New Jersey branch of [group]. So but we're really technically a small we're three there's a set of three community hospitals that were part of the [group] system that got bought out by [group]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you're an OR nurse, correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Correct."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that's what you were doing in January. 2020?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yep. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So we can you've already answered many of my questions, but I feel we can go back to them just in case."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:14", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 25.950253204289194, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Correct."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that's what you were doing in January. 2020?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yep. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So we can you've already answered many of my questions, but I feel we can go back to them just in case."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me about when you first heard about COVID."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:32", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 10.246502229491515, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh huh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well. Mm hmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did anyone discuss that with her?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, at length at length.\n\nWe had one nurse that took over. So that manager was the director of Peri or is the director of Peri Operative Services so that includes pre-op area O.R. and the Recovery Room, as well as endoscopy. The Endoscopy Suite and IR- interventional radiology. And so the O.R. specific manager was one of our nurses, and she she came in during the pandemic, and she was really great about, like, making sure that we got supplies where she could. She fought for us.\n\nSo say if we had 2 hours of work, the boss above her would say, you have to go home after 2 hours. And we're like, can we help somewhere else? Because we can't live on 6 hours a week with so she would try to send everyone home. But Maureen, who was our manager, was like, You can't do this to these people.\n\nLike, they're not even going to qualify for health care if you if they don't work a certain number of hours. So you can't you can't do that to them. They people have homes and families and children, and they can be used elsewhere in the hospital. Like, why are you not utilizing your staff when other people are drowning? We are a very specialized type of nursing.\n\nWe're very different than every other type of nursing. So it doesn't always translate very well to other departments, but there's always a use for us somewhere. Yeah. So she was on her zoom calls, making her money, telling us all to go home after 2 hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sounds like Maureen was trying to get the hospital to do more."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maureen was great."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Especially in the but- in this in this pre-crisis phase, from January to March, was anyone sounding the alarm?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:36", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.958644727767301, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maureen was great."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Especially in the but- in this in this pre-crisis phase, from January to March, was anyone sounding the alarm?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not not really. No. There was one doctor that I talked to from the ICU that I know, and I was like, What are your thoughts? And he goes, I'm not sure, but I don't have a good feeling you've like. I'm hoping that it won't be bad, but I think it might be bad. ‘Cause he knew people up in New York. I mean, the people I work with are not very well educated though. we had ten call outs because the booster shot was due and nobody wanted to get their shot because ‘Merica and Freedom, but really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right OK, but you know, if this one doctor was trying to get the hospital to prepare better."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I believe that he had spoken with like the director of the ICU about masks but I don't think it went much further than that.\n\nWe did start they did start developing a plan for, like I said, isolating COVID patients. But it very quickly, I mean, all the preparation and the minimal preparation that we had done very quickly was outstripped by the rapidity of the amount of people that got sick. They were like, oh, we're going to have this one unit as a COVID unit.\n\nAnd at one point there was only one floor out of the entire hospital that wasn't Covid. And then we ran out of room there. And then they started talking about taking like like our education rooms and putting beds and stuff in there. But there aren't oxygen hookups- the amount of effort that it would take to take an education room to make it into a room where a patient could be hospitalized is just not particularly feasible, y’know?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so in the period from January to March, though, what do you wish that they would have done differently?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:42", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 9.545466018885186, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wish that we had started getting hand sanitizer, PPE, masks, visors, just all the that's the stuff that we ran out of very quickly.\n\nAnd we had to lockdown a lot of our stuff. We installed locks in the O.R. in like the storage areas because people were coming up. They knew where like cleaning alcohol, like like the cleansing cloths, like the chlorhexidine stuff that we use and like we didn't even have stuff to clean the O.R.s at one point. Like we didn't have like to just even clean or like they had stuff, but it was like it wasn't strong enough.\n\nYou know, you need a percentage of alcohol and the stuff that we were getting was 50%. So I'm just like, we're just spreading stuff all over. And this was at the point where we didn't know, you know, I had heard we had heard, you know, they were finding viral material in cruise ships on surfaces and they weren't sure if that was contagious.\n\nAt the time. So we didn't we had no idea we had no idea all the ways of transmission. It ended up being less horrible than we like transmission wise, like ways we could get it. You know, it was was like from the groceries."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At least there was no fomite spread."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right? Yes, exactly. Exactly. Which we weren't even sure of that at the beginning. We ran out of gloves. We didn’t have gloves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were following the cruise ships then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A little bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did that whole saga make you feel?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:44", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.383851132094652, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right? Yes, exactly. Exactly. Which we weren't even sure of that at the beginning. We ran out of gloves. We didn’t have gloves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were following the cruise ships then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A little bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did that whole saga make you feel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was pretty this pretty. Pretty it was pretty it was pretty nerve wracking. I I kind by whenever they started saying that, that, you know, they weren't seeing transmission. They were only seeing it like respiratory kind of issues, like seeing it transmitted that way. I relaxed, but for a while, I was just like you know, it was like the girls that I work with would, like, put on a glove to, like, touch the elevator button to get out of the hospital.\n\nOr they'd like alcohol like every surface. And I'm like, but now we don't have any not going to have any cleaning products because we're like wiping down the elevator every 5 seconds.\n\nI started following when everything when the curfew when the curfew happened. and like because Montgomery County was the first one in our area in P.A. to have a curfew."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was the curfew? I wasn't in PA."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:46", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.093167924549611, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A little bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did that whole saga make you feel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was pretty this pretty. Pretty it was pretty it was pretty nerve wracking. I I kind by whenever they started saying that, that, you know, they weren't seeing transmission. They were only seeing it like respiratory kind of issues, like seeing it transmitted that way. I relaxed, but for a while, I was just like you know, it was like the girls that I work with would, like, put on a glove to, like, touch the elevator button to get out of the hospital.\n\nOr they'd like alcohol like every surface. And I'm like, but now we don't have any not going to have any cleaning products because we're like wiping down the elevator every 5 seconds.\n\nI started following when everything when the curfew when the curfew happened. and like because Montgomery County was the first one in our area in P.A. to have a curfew."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was the curfew? I wasn't in PA."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was so it was right before I forget what the date was. I think it was March 13th, but the that the surgeon general was like no more elective cases. I think it was probably like March ninth or 10th. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That I didn't realize you had one there. I mean, that was before George Floyd then yeah."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:48", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.770186582832901, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was pretty this pretty. Pretty it was pretty it was pretty nerve wracking. I I kind by whenever they started saying that, that, you know, they weren't seeing transmission. They were only seeing it like respiratory kind of issues, like seeing it transmitted that way. I relaxed, but for a while, I was just like you know, it was like the girls that I work with would, like, put on a glove to, like, touch the elevator button to get out of the hospital.\n\nOr they'd like alcohol like every surface. And I'm like, but now we don't have any not going to have any cleaning products because we're like wiping down the elevator every 5 seconds.\n\nI started following when everything when the curfew when the curfew happened. and like because Montgomery County was the first one in our area in P.A. to have a curfew."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was the curfew? I wasn't in PA."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was so it was right before I forget what the date was. I think it was March 13th, but the that the surgeon general was like no more elective cases. I think it was probably like March ninth or 10th. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That I didn't realize you had one there. I mean, that was before George Floyd then yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hundred percent."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, my timeline is a little off."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:50", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 7.522429536481001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was so it was right before I forget what the date was. I think it was March 13th, but the that the surgeon general was like no more elective cases. I think it was probably like March ninth or 10th. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That I didn't realize you had one there. I mean, that was before George Floyd then yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hundred percent."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, my timeline is a little off."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm pretty sure, because that was the first thing. Montgomery County shut down very early."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So you mentioned your own original, your own personal behavior in this. You know, maybe some risks you took. Is there anything you would've done differently as an individual?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:52", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.9138105960900007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hundred percent."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, my timeline is a little off."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm pretty sure, because that was the first thing. Montgomery County shut down very early."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So you mentioned your own original, your own personal behavior in this. You know, maybe some risks you took. Is there anything you would've done differently as an individual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hmm… I am comfortable with the risks that I took. Like I said, it was kind of we did our own pod thing so… and it was only during the summer that I saw these people and they were people I directly worked with. Like I said, we were outside. We were literally like putting our chairs like six feet seven feet, eight feet, like in a circle or whatever and hanging out or whatever that way.\n\nI don't feel bad about it, but I know my mom and my dad were really mad at me they're 73 and 71. They both have multiple comorbidities. I would be like, I want to hang outside they hated that. They said I was being a drama queen.\n\nWe got in very many fights. We didn't talk for a while.\n\nThey just lived their life like nothing happened, like nothing was happening. My mom was like, I can't wear this mask. I can't breathe. they're still not vaccinated, which makes me crazy. But I can't. They got Covid twice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "(sarcastic) They're extra immune."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:54", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 4.3486784401000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm pretty sure, because that was the first thing. Montgomery County shut down very early."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So you mentioned your own original, your own personal behavior in this. You know, maybe some risks you took. Is there anything you would've done differently as an individual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hmm… I am comfortable with the risks that I took. Like I said, it was kind of we did our own pod thing so… and it was only during the summer that I saw these people and they were people I directly worked with. Like I said, we were outside. We were literally like putting our chairs like six feet seven feet, eight feet, like in a circle or whatever and hanging out or whatever that way.\n\nI don't feel bad about it, but I know my mom and my dad were really mad at me they're 73 and 71. They both have multiple comorbidities. I would be like, I want to hang outside they hated that. They said I was being a drama queen.\n\nWe got in very many fights. We didn't talk for a while.\n\nThey just lived their life like nothing happened, like nothing was happening. My mom was like, I can't wear this mask. I can't breathe. they're still not vaccinated, which makes me crazy. But I can't. They got Covid twice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "(sarcastic) They're extra immune."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's what they keep telling me.\n\nYeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I have a few wrap up questions. I mean, you've really been extremely helpful. Your like, really some that your whole story really has is really good guidance on where I can head with this project. So just to wrap up, what would you like to tell me about the way you felt in early 2020?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:62", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, is there any is there any question that you think I should have asked that I didn't, that you think I should go into."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think so. I think you did a great job. Thanks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And anything else that you'd like to tell me no."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I think I said it all. I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything you want to."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:64", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think so. I think you did a great job. Thanks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And anything else that you'd like to tell me no."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I think I said it all. I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything you want to."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ask me thing on message. You know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm might ask you some follow up questions."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:66", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I think I said it all. I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything you want to."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ask me thing on message. You know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm might ask you some follow up questions."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But is there anything you that you want to ask me?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:68", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ask me thing on message. You know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm might ask you some follow up questions."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But is there anything you that you want to ask me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, just I want to I want to hear about the finished product product when you're all done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll send you a copy of the paper when the thesis, when it's written. What's your masters in by the way?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:70", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But is there anything you that you want to ask me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, just I want to I want to hear about the finished product product when you're all done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll send you a copy of the paper when the thesis, when it's written. What's your masters in by the way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nurse practitioner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, and you can be the one on Zoom next time."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:72", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, just I want to I want to hear about the finished product product when you're all done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll send you a copy of the paper when the thesis, when it's written. What's your masters in by the way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nurse practitioner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, and you can be the one on Zoom next time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I don't I don't even know what I want to do with my life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Must be some way to fake like diabetes. So you say you can."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:76", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I don't I don't even know what I want to do with my life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Must be some way to fake like diabetes. So you say you can."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it was really funny because my my best friend in the O.R., like, she's lovely, and she's my work wife. She has multiple sclerosis, and her husband had to go down to the E.R.. Her husband works in the recovery room, and, like, she's like, I'm doing all the COVID cases, like, her and I were the COVID. We were the COVID Queens.\n\nAnd she's like, I have MS.\n\nWhich is legitimately like an immune system thing, and you've got diabetes, and you're not allowed to come into work. But I'm allowed to be in the COVID rooms all the time and go to the COVID ICU. She's like, I want to be here. That's not the thing. Like, you know what I mean? It's just the irony, the irony of it all.\n\nAnd send her husband who could give her COVID down to the COVID ICU. So anyway, yeah, so now none of us got COVID, the three of us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Congratulations."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I Know so far, I mean, my aunt got covid on Easter. So."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So far so good."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00016:78", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it was really funny because my my best friend in the O.R., like, she's lovely, and she's my work wife. She has multiple sclerosis, and her husband had to go down to the E.R.. Her husband works in the recovery room, and, like, she's like, I'm doing all the COVID cases, like, her and I were the COVID. We were the COVID Queens.\n\nAnd she's like, I have MS.\n\nWhich is legitimately like an immune system thing, and you've got diabetes, and you're not allowed to come into work. But I'm allowed to be in the COVID rooms all the time and go to the COVID ICU. She's like, I want to be here. That's not the thing. Like, you know what I mean? It's just the irony, the irony of it all.\n\nAnd send her husband who could give her COVID down to the COVID ICU. So anyway, yeah, so now none of us got COVID, the three of us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Congratulations."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I Know so far, I mean, my aunt got covid on Easter. So."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So far so good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So far so good. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so thank you so much for this. And it's been nice seeing you happy. I'm happy to see you're healthy and that you're doing OK, I guess. so to speak."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.195556627929722, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Thank you. The tea room of UHI in the outpatient department."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much. So basically we are going to have a conversation about what we have discussed and I request you to be frank with your answers as you share your opinions and there is no right or wrong answer; whatever you say is what we want to hear. And then your identity is going to be kept anonymous. Tell me a little bit about yourself; how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am 32 years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are your qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I graduated with MBCHB in January 2012 and since then I have been working in Uganda Heart Institute."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are six to seven years?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.66172958658858, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am 32 years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are your qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I graduated with MBCHB in January 2012 and since then I have been working in Uganda Heart Institute."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are six to seven years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I have been working in Uganda heart institute since October of 2012."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are six or more years."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.179699540653977, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I graduated with MBCHB in January 2012 and since then I have been working in Uganda Heart Institute."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are six to seven years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I have been working in Uganda heart institute since October of 2012."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are six or more years."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, and I am currently pursuing my Master’s Degree in Internal Medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. Actually you have answered my second question. It was how long ago were you qualified? So you have been here for 6 years. So when you look at the patients you are dealing with here or you dealt with in your practice, what are the common illnesses you see here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.644110600726641, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I have been working in Uganda heart institute since October of 2012."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are six or more years."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, and I am currently pursuing my Master’s Degree in Internal Medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. Actually you have answered my second question. It was how long ago were you qualified? So you have been here for 6 years. So when you look at the patients you are dealing with here or you dealt with in your practice, what are the common illnesses you see here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hope it’s not a bit of bias because since I qualified I have been working in Heart Institute; I don't do private practice so most of the patients we see here are patients with heart problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which ones?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 5.160122889696268, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, and I am currently pursuing my Master’s Degree in Internal Medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. Actually you have answered my second question. It was how long ago were you qualified? So you have been here for 6 years. So when you look at the patients you are dealing with here or you dealt with in your practice, what are the common illnesses you see here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hope it’s not a bit of bias because since I qualified I have been working in Heart Institute; I don't do private practice so most of the patients we see here are patients with heart problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The commonest in adults is hypertension which usually comes in with co- morbidities like diabetes, then we see rheumatic heart disease, pulmonary embolism, we see patients with myocardial infarction, and commonly patients come here when they are in heart failure and there are various causes of heart failure, a few of which I have mentioned."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you look at the demographics, are they the old, young? Are they male or female?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4001365441069638, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hope it’s not a bit of bias because since I qualified I have been working in Heart Institute; I don't do private practice so most of the patients we see here are patients with heart problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The commonest in adults is hypertension which usually comes in with co- morbidities like diabetes, then we see rheumatic heart disease, pulmonary embolism, we see patients with myocardial infarction, and commonly patients come here when they are in heart failure and there are various causes of heart failure, a few of which I have mentioned."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you look at the demographics, are they the old, young? Are they male or female?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay the demographics; the ages is that we see all ages here. But maybe what I can say concerning diseases like hypertension is that most of the patients are quite aged about 50 years. And maybe the ones of Rheumatic Heart Disease all the age brackets are there but commonly maybe between 15-50 years, although there are those who are above 50 years but still come with Rheumatic heart disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. And then, let's look at your training in RHD; have you received any specific training during school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.963131535934523, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay the demographics; the ages is that we see all ages here. But maybe what I can say concerning diseases like hypertension is that most of the patients are quite aged about 50 years. And maybe the ones of Rheumatic Heart Disease all the age brackets are there but commonly maybe between 15-50 years, although there are those who are above 50 years but still come with Rheumatic heart disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. And then, let's look at your training in RHD; have you received any specific training during school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like specifically a training on RHD?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about in school, did they talk about RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2923683732605813, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "like specifically a training on RHD?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about in school, did they talk about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course in school there are tutorials, there are lectures, you have combined group discussions about the various topics and of which, one is RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then after graduation, have you had any specific training in RHD management and care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6581870814006456, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about in school, did they talk about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course in school there are tutorials, there are lectures, you have combined group discussions about the various topics and of which, one is RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then after graduation, have you had any specific training in RHD management and care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think you need one?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.064652312667384, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course in school there are tutorials, there are lectures, you have combined group discussions about the various topics and of which, one is RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then after graduation, have you had any specific training in RHD management and care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think you need one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would be very important you have one maybe in form of frequent CMEs and going to people to train you. It could be very helpful because many patients have the disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which specific areas would you want to be trained in?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.018089274898005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would be very important you have one maybe in form of frequent CMEs and going to people to train you. It could be very helpful because many patients have the disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So which specific areas would you want to be trained in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it would be important to do the preventive bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Preventive bits."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Or catch it early, manage whatever they have to avoid the complications."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So umm, in a day, typically how many patients do you have?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.614925030738277, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Or catch it early, manage whatever they have to avoid the complications."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So umm, in a day, typically how many patients do you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That depends because there is the outpatient department and the inpatient department. So if you are in outpatient, maybe an average you can see 13-15 but there are days when they are as few as 10 and some days when they are as many as 25."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in a?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a day, in out-patients! Then on the ward (in-patients), maybe in a week they could be 3, 4 or 7. I have not really taken kin interest in the inpatient units to know how many could be there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have more out-patients than in-patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9054722563758633, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That depends because there is the outpatient department and the inpatient department. So if you are in outpatient, maybe an average you can see 13-15 but there are days when they are as few as 10 and some days when they are as many as 25."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in a?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a day, in out-patients! Then on the ward (in-patients), maybe in a week they could be 3, 4 or 7. I have not really taken kin interest in the inpatient units to know how many could be there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have more out-patients than in-patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your understanding on the causes of RHD? What were you taught about it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.2283025070842926, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a day, in out-patients! Then on the ward (in-patients), maybe in a week they could be 3, 4 or 7. I have not really taken kin interest in the inpatient units to know how many could be there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have more out-patients than in-patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your understanding on the causes of RHD? What were you taught about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD is Rheumatic Heart Disease and this occurs as a complication of Acute Rheumatic Fever, and Acute Rheumatic Fever usually follows someone who has had a sore throat or pharyngitis which is commonly caused by a bacterial infection, and the type which causes that is a Group A streptococci."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you aware of the link between a sore throat and RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4758916745381025, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your understanding on the causes of RHD? What were you taught about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD is Rheumatic Heart Disease and this occurs as a complication of Acute Rheumatic Fever, and Acute Rheumatic Fever usually follows someone who has had a sore throat or pharyngitis which is commonly caused by a bacterial infection, and the type which causes that is a Group A streptococci."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you aware of the link between a sore throat and RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, of course most of these patients may not recall because the RHD comes in years later, but there is a link; you have a sore throat then followed by rheumatic fever and then the rheumatic heart disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were you taught can be done to prevent RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7509907494867805, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD is Rheumatic Heart Disease and this occurs as a complication of Acute Rheumatic Fever, and Acute Rheumatic Fever usually follows someone who has had a sore throat or pharyngitis which is commonly caused by a bacterial infection, and the type which causes that is a Group A streptococci."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you aware of the link between a sore throat and RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, of course most of these patients may not recall because the RHD comes in years later, but there is a link; you have a sore throat then followed by rheumatic fever and then the rheumatic heart disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were you taught can be done to prevent RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think importantly is that once someone has a sore throat, treat it adequately with the right drugs and complete the treatment, and it would be good to follow up to see that they are getting better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were taught about the treatment of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.056656388318645, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, of course most of these patients may not recall because the RHD comes in years later, but there is a link; you have a sore throat then followed by rheumatic fever and then the rheumatic heart disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were you taught can be done to prevent RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think importantly is that once someone has a sore throat, treat it adequately with the right drugs and complete the treatment, and it would be good to follow up to see that they are getting better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were taught about the treatment of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The treatment of RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, the treatment."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7736498621217835, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The treatment of RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, the treatment."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In RHD you have permanent damage to the valves, though some people can get recurrent infections and they get like a Carditis where all the hearts layers, the muscles, are affected. So it depends, but usually patients are given drugs to help with the functioning of the heart and there are very many groups of drugs that can be given. Maybe I could say that the anti- failure drugs, then there are those who have, as a result of damage to the heart, some of them can form clots so you can give anticoagulation or if they have arrhythmia issues which can predispose them to form clots, you give them anticoagulation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and maybe importantly to note is that if these patients are on drugs and they are taking their drugs as prescribed they would be stable but it’s also good to looked out for other factors which can keep precipitating them into getting heart failures."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what is your understanding about the long term prognosis of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.436604768051584, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "and maybe importantly to note is that if these patients are on drugs and they are taking their drugs as prescribed they would be stable but it’s also good to looked out for other factors which can keep precipitating them into getting heart failures."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what is your understanding about the long term prognosis of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "long term prognosis?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think this depends on how these patients are managed; if given the right treatment, the right doses and they are keeping the follow ups I think they can be ... and depending on how severe the valves are damaged, they can last for some time. I will not put a year to it or months or anything, but I think with appropriate treatment they can survive for some time. The point is that if they have severe disease and they are having frequent admissions for heart failure and also if they qualify to be operated. If they are operated, many patients here have been operated and they are stable; they are living normal lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about your encounters with RHD patients; do you recall the last patient you saw with RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.707338631168427, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "long term prognosis?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think this depends on how these patients are managed; if given the right treatment, the right doses and they are keeping the follow ups I think they can be ... and depending on how severe the valves are damaged, they can last for some time. I will not put a year to it or months or anything, but I think with appropriate treatment they can survive for some time. The point is that if they have severe disease and they are having frequent admissions for heart failure and also if they qualify to be operated. If they are operated, many patients here have been operated and they are stable; they are living normal lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about your encounters with RHD patients; do you recall the last patient you saw with RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] Of course, I have just seen one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you summarize how s/he was?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0081540346315854, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think this depends on how these patients are managed; if given the right treatment, the right doses and they are keeping the follow ups I think they can be ... and depending on how severe the valves are damaged, they can last for some time. I will not put a year to it or months or anything, but I think with appropriate treatment they can survive for some time. The point is that if they have severe disease and they are having frequent admissions for heart failure and also if they qualify to be operated. If they are operated, many patients here have been operated and they are stable; they are living normal lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about your encounters with RHD patients; do you recall the last patient you saw with RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] Of course, I have just seen one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you summarize how s/he was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The last one was stable; her disease isn't major. She has had surgery, she has been coming for follow ups, she is taking her drugs to the dot and she is stable. The only thing that she does is to keep checking in the INR to see that, you know one of the drugs we give is the Warfarin's, so we have to check to see that it is within the required therapeutic range."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did she have any complaints today?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3423933718128724, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] Of course, I have just seen one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you summarize how s/he was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The last one was stable; her disease isn't major. She has had surgery, she has been coming for follow ups, she is taking her drugs to the dot and she is stable. The only thing that she does is to keep checking in the INR to see that, you know one of the drugs we give is the Warfarin's, so we have to check to see that it is within the required therapeutic range."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did she have any complaints today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "she told me that she has just come in for review because they told her she had to come back for a follow up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Okay, and then um, when you look at the average age of RHD patients, who are they?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.0153004590282375, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "she told me that she has just come in for review because they told her she had to come back for a follow up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow! Okay, and then um, when you look at the average age of RHD patients, who are they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Average age!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe I would say 25 years, but there are those extreme ages that I have seen here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But most of them are how old?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.239222732253597, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Average age!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe I would say 25 years, but there are those extreme ages that I have seen here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But most of them are how old?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "25 to 30 years; many are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So are they working or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4880252580595523, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe I would say 25 years, but there are those extreme ages that I have seen here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But most of them are how old?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "25 to 30 years; many are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So are they working or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some are working, some are ... I don’t know, but maybe they feel sorry for themselves and they don't work because some of them you see that they are stable, and can do something but they tell you “I am not working.” However, majority are working and some are at school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that they know the link between sore throat, ARF and RHD? Do they know that those three are ... ?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.764472508955058, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "25 to 30 years; many are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So are they working or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some are working, some are ... I don’t know, but maybe they feel sorry for themselves and they don't work because some of them you see that they are stable, and can do something but they tell you “I am not working.” However, majority are working and some are at school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that they know the link between sore throat, ARF and RHD? Do they know that those three are ... ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not taken that kin interest to find out from them, but I would think that those who have got some bit of education, on the initial encounters they had, they must have been informed about it but I don't know if they can recall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the initial visits, do they come with that prior knowledge that probably this ... ?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0716361210611756, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some are working, some are ... I don’t know, but maybe they feel sorry for themselves and they don't work because some of them you see that they are stable, and can do something but they tell you “I am not working.” However, majority are working and some are at school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that they know the link between sore throat, ARF and RHD? Do they know that those three are ... ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not taken that kin interest to find out from them, but I would think that those who have got some bit of education, on the initial encounters they had, they must have been informed about it but I don't know if they can recall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the initial visits, do they come with that prior knowledge that probably this ... ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we just give them the information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. What sort of symptoms do they usually describe when they come especially for those first visits?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.412929023401306, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not taken that kin interest to find out from them, but I would think that those who have got some bit of education, on the initial encounters they had, they must have been informed about it but I don't know if they can recall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the initial visits, do they come with that prior knowledge that probably this ... ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we just give them the information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. What sort of symptoms do they usually describe when they come especially for those first visits?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the first visits, some of them may complain of a sore throat, some of them may complain of joint pain or chest pain, and some of them come in with heart failure symptoms and they are diagnosed when they are in heart failure. Like that's their first encounter, they are very sick, they do the tests and they find out that they have RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. When you look at their follow up and adherence, what do you have to say about it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1023815103719827, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the first visits, some of them may complain of a sore throat, some of them may complain of joint pain or chest pain, and some of them come in with heart failure symptoms and they are diagnosed when they are in heart failure. Like that's their first encounter, they are very sick, they do the tests and they find out that they have RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. When you look at their follow up and adherence, what do you have to say about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here where I work, follow up and adherence is very good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is very good. Of course I wouldn't say its 100% because there are always those few whom you would explain to “take this and this, like this” and then they come back and tell you something totally different, but at least on average it’s good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes it good?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.447090567079981, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here where I work, follow up and adherence is very good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is very good. Of course I wouldn't say its 100% because there are always those few whom you would explain to “take this and this, like this” and then they come back and tell you something totally different, but at least on average it’s good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes it good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think what makes them adhere to treatment is, I think it comes from the health workers; if you talk to someone and they understand their disease and the importance of the drugs, and also possible side effects which could come in. Because, they might stop because of the side effects which you could have not told them at the beginning, so if they know about the disease and you tell them why you are giving them the drugs, adherence would be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have some who are just not adherent?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7189895189777564, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is very good. Of course I wouldn't say its 100% because there are always those few whom you would explain to “take this and this, like this” and then they come back and tell you something totally different, but at least on average it’s good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes it good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think what makes them adhere to treatment is, I think it comes from the health workers; if you talk to someone and they understand their disease and the importance of the drugs, and also possible side effects which could come in. Because, they might stop because of the side effects which you could have not told them at the beginning, so if they know about the disease and you tell them why you are giving them the drugs, adherence would be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have some who are just not adherent?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those who do not adhere, um, those who don’t adhere, usually those incidences come in some of course in in-patients and some in-outpatients but it occurs like if you have given them 4 drugs and like the 2 of them are off. So they tell you that “drugs went off, I couldn't come back, or transport issues and you gave me drugs when there were a few days left to come back for review and I couldn't buy drugs.” So basically like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So its transport ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0210994655308405, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think what makes them adhere to treatment is, I think it comes from the health workers; if you talk to someone and they understand their disease and the importance of the drugs, and also possible side effects which could come in. Because, they might stop because of the side effects which you could have not told them at the beginning, so if they know about the disease and you tell them why you are giving them the drugs, adherence would be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have some who are just not adherent?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those who do not adhere, um, those who don’t adhere, usually those incidences come in some of course in in-patients and some in-outpatients but it occurs like if you have given them 4 drugs and like the 2 of them are off. So they tell you that “drugs went off, I couldn't come back, or transport issues and you gave me drugs when there were a few days left to come back for review and I couldn't buy drugs.” So basically like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So its transport ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, transport, and some of them say that where they live, the drugs given here are not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. And then um, have you had an experience where by you prescribed and the patient didn't get the drugs and they have to go away without RHD drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.356777183923156, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those who do not adhere, um, those who don’t adhere, usually those incidences come in some of course in in-patients and some in-outpatients but it occurs like if you have given them 4 drugs and like the 2 of them are off. So they tell you that “drugs went off, I couldn't come back, or transport issues and you gave me drugs when there were a few days left to come back for review and I couldn't buy drugs.” So basically like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So its transport ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, transport, and some of them say that where they live, the drugs given here are not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. And then um, have you had an experience where by you prescribed and the patient didn't get the drugs and they have to go away without RHD drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That maybe be hard to say because in the consultation rooms usually when you prescribe, you direct them to the pharmacy and tell them “there is this pharmacy and there are drugs for free and there is this pharmacy for buying. ” So when they get out, you may not be able to follow up. But most of them come back and they tell you “I have been taking my drugs” so most probably they got their drugs but not sure if they got their drugs from here or outside."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What sort of barriers do they commonly state to getting their care; you have talked about the transport ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7297524265812845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, transport, and some of them say that where they live, the drugs given here are not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. And then um, have you had an experience where by you prescribed and the patient didn't get the drugs and they have to go away without RHD drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That maybe be hard to say because in the consultation rooms usually when you prescribe, you direct them to the pharmacy and tell them “there is this pharmacy and there are drugs for free and there is this pharmacy for buying. ” So when they get out, you may not be able to follow up. But most of them come back and they tell you “I have been taking my drugs” so most probably they got their drugs but not sure if they got their drugs from here or outside."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What sort of barriers do they commonly state to getting their care; you have talked about the transport ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there is transport, social support, um ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.144169362868094, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That maybe be hard to say because in the consultation rooms usually when you prescribe, you direct them to the pharmacy and tell them “there is this pharmacy and there are drugs for free and there is this pharmacy for buying. ” So when they get out, you may not be able to follow up. But most of them come back and they tell you “I have been taking my drugs” so most probably they got their drugs but not sure if they got their drugs from here or outside."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What sort of barriers do they commonly state to getting their care; you have talked about the transport ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there is transport, social support, um ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "those are the common things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "those are the common things because you have talked about drugs not being where they stay and then transport."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.604632625408993, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there is transport, social support, um ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "those are the common things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "those are the common things because you have talked about drugs not being where they stay and then transport."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, finances are basically the common thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and how about your care providers; what sort of barriers do you face?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.116258472676658, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "those are the common things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "those are the common things because you have talked about drugs not being where they stay and then transport."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, finances are basically the common thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and how about your care providers; what sort of barriers do you face?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] Barriers in care!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. You know you want to treat your patients but you are limited."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.5736205251962865, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, finances are basically the common thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and how about your care providers; what sort of barriers do you face?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] Barriers in care!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. You know you want to treat your patients but you are limited."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] let me just think through and see ... [thinking]. Would having more time with the patient be a barrier? I think it would be nice to have more time with the patients. You can explain to them and talk to them but sometimes if the patients are many and you have to see everyone, though they are not usually many but there are those particular days when they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't get enough time to really talk to all of them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8595783613292065, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] Barriers in care!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. You know you want to treat your patients but you are limited."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] let me just think through and see ... [thinking]. Would having more time with the patient be a barrier? I think it would be nice to have more time with the patients. You can explain to them and talk to them but sometimes if the patients are many and you have to see everyone, though they are not usually many but there are those particular days when they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't get enough time to really talk to all of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not on a daily basis but there are those few days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other barrier?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.177309290365785, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] let me just think through and see ... [thinking]. Would having more time with the patient be a barrier? I think it would be nice to have more time with the patients. You can explain to them and talk to them but sometimes if the patients are many and you have to see everyone, though they are not usually many but there are those particular days when they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't get enough time to really talk to all of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not on a daily basis but there are those few days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other barrier?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Personally, maybe that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the time when you are giving treatment, are you limited by anything?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.530343655961983, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not on a daily basis but there are those few days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other barrier?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Personally, maybe that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the time when you are giving treatment, are you limited by anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really except for those few incidences where patients are allergic to the injection and then bad news happens, but not really. Because when you’re giving these drugs, you inform them the side effects and the interactions possible in the easiest language they can understand, though some things can't be translated in the language they understand. So when you tell them that “when you see this, come back immediately” although some of them might end up stopping the drugs and when they come back for review, they have not been on that particular drug which they think is causing them trouble."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "um, so there are some explanations you give but you don't have the right simpler words to use when you are attending to them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.9226040621799814, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Personally, maybe that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the time when you are giving treatment, are you limited by anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really except for those few incidences where patients are allergic to the injection and then bad news happens, but not really. Because when you’re giving these drugs, you inform them the side effects and the interactions possible in the easiest language they can understand, though some things can't be translated in the language they understand. So when you tell them that “when you see this, come back immediately” although some of them might end up stopping the drugs and when they come back for review, they have not been on that particular drug which they think is causing them trouble."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "um, so there are some explanations you give but you don't have the right simpler words to use when you are attending to them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah that too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And then let's look at the local health system barriers, we want to see which pieces are not working for you and why you think so?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.358448957977757, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really except for those few incidences where patients are allergic to the injection and then bad news happens, but not really. Because when you’re giving these drugs, you inform them the side effects and the interactions possible in the easiest language they can understand, though some things can't be translated in the language they understand. So when you tell them that “when you see this, come back immediately” although some of them might end up stopping the drugs and when they come back for review, they have not been on that particular drug which they think is causing them trouble."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "um, so there are some explanations you give but you don't have the right simpler words to use when you are attending to them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah that too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And then let's look at the local health system barriers, we want to see which pieces are not working for you and why you think so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorry which what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The local health system barriers, in this we have the administration, the... let's go one by one and you tell which one is not working for you and why? Let’s look at the administration here and at the district level; is it working for you in any way?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.842721064419729, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah that too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And then let's look at the local health system barriers, we want to see which pieces are not working for you and why you think so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorry which what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The local health system barriers, in this we have the administration, the... let's go one by one and you tell which one is not working for you and why? Let’s look at the administration here and at the district level; is it working for you in any way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.867556869653987, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "although I might not talk much about the district level; it might be hard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least seeing these patients, there are particular people who see them and those people are present every day; patients get to be seen, prescribed drugs, they get their drugs and in case they have any questions, they get to ask."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are conformable with the administration here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.408396521837763, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "although I might not talk much about the district level; it might be hard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least seeing these patients, there are particular people who see them and those people are present every day; patients get to be seen, prescribed drugs, they get their drugs and in case they have any questions, they get to ask."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are conformable with the administration here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I am but maybe the only thing I see is that sometimes the patients wait for too long especially those who have to do blood tests like INR and those who have to do follow-up Echo's, sometimes they wait for long."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like how many hours do they wait?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 4.898218357597514, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least seeing these patients, there are particular people who see them and those people are present every day; patients get to be seen, prescribed drugs, they get their drugs and in case they have any questions, they get to ask."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are conformable with the administration here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I am but maybe the only thing I see is that sometimes the patients wait for too long especially those who have to do blood tests like INR and those who have to do follow-up Echo's, sometimes they wait for long."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like how many hours do they wait?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe 3 to 4 hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how can we improve that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9980203973305716, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I am but maybe the only thing I see is that sometimes the patients wait for too long especially those who have to do blood tests like INR and those who have to do follow-up Echo's, sometimes they wait for long."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like how many hours do they wait?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe 3 to 4 hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how can we improve that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "um, maybe they could put, anyway it might be challenging, but maybe they could put particular days for particular conditions and maybe these patients get to be reviewed the following day so that they don't spend much time here. But that would come with the financial implications on their pockets to come two days (twice)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that's administration. How about funding for health care in general; how is it, is it working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.108911552589524, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe 3 to 4 hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how can we improve that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "um, maybe they could put, anyway it might be challenging, but maybe they could put particular days for particular conditions and maybe these patients get to be reviewed the following day so that they don't spend much time here. But that would come with the financial implications on their pockets to come two days (twice)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that's administration. How about funding for health care in general; how is it, is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Particularly for this?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let's begin with general funding for health care."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2321239473216932, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "um, maybe they could put, anyway it might be challenging, but maybe they could put particular days for particular conditions and maybe these patients get to be reviewed the following day so that they don't spend much time here. But that would come with the financial implications on their pockets to come two days (twice)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that's administration. How about funding for health care in general; how is it, is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Particularly for this?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let's begin with general funding for health care."}, {"role": "user", "content": "General funding for health care! Of course I would talk about the things I would want to use as I work on a patient. You would find that some, okay I have worked in a different setting; a government setting outside there, but sometimes you want to really attend to a patient but you can't attend to them unless you have things like gloves. You want to do a blood test and you don't have strips, like availability of, are they equipment or resources? Those things you must have to work on a patient; sometimes they are so limited."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about here? How are the stocks?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.41002956459468276, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "General funding for health care! Of course I would talk about the things I would want to use as I work on a patient. You would find that some, okay I have worked in a different setting; a government setting outside there, but sometimes you want to really attend to a patient but you can't attend to them unless you have things like gloves. You want to do a blood test and you don't have strips, like availability of, are they equipment or resources? Those things you must have to work on a patient; sometimes they are so limited."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about here? How are the stocks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[sighs] the stock here are fairly Okay, but there are those days when you don't have like RBS strips those tinny things which would make work easier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about when it comes to RHD management, how do you look at the funding? How is the funding?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.45558840510520304, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[sighs] the stock here are fairly Okay, but there are those days when you don't have like RBS strips those tinny things which would make work easier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about when it comes to RHD management, how do you look at the funding? How is the funding?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here in Heart Institute the funding is good and I would like to take the opportunity to thank whoever is out there funding these people, because many of these people are quite or really needy and they would not afford to even buy the drugs. We appreciate the support."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. How about elsewhere, how do you see the referral hospitals which are handling them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5062093390057811, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[sighs] the stock here are fairly Okay, but there are those days when you don't have like RBS strips those tinny things which would make work easier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about when it comes to RHD management, how do you look at the funding? How is the funding?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here in Heart Institute the funding is good and I would like to take the opportunity to thank whoever is out there funding these people, because many of these people are quite or really needy and they would not afford to even buy the drugs. We appreciate the support."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. How about elsewhere, how do you see the referral hospitals which are handling them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Referral hospitals, it’s troublesome! Because the patients referred here sometimes you find they have prescribed drugs but they are not on drugs because they are not there and they can't buy them. Once they reach here, you tell them that they will be registered under RHD, be seen for free, the drugs will be there ... So maybe it would be good if they have RHD centers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let’s look at the health workers’ numbers and qualifications; are they working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5624548211175345, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here in Heart Institute the funding is good and I would like to take the opportunity to thank whoever is out there funding these people, because many of these people are quite or really needy and they would not afford to even buy the drugs. We appreciate the support."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. How about elsewhere, how do you see the referral hospitals which are handling them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Referral hospitals, it’s troublesome! Because the patients referred here sometimes you find they have prescribed drugs but they are not on drugs because they are not there and they can't buy them. Once they reach here, you tell them that they will be registered under RHD, be seen for free, the drugs will be there ... So maybe it would be good if they have RHD centers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let’s look at the health workers’ numbers and qualifications; are they working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are working for me here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do you say so?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.624949801241705, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Referral hospitals, it’s troublesome! Because the patients referred here sometimes you find they have prescribed drugs but they are not on drugs because they are not there and they can't buy them. Once they reach here, you tell them that they will be registered under RHD, be seen for free, the drugs will be there ... So maybe it would be good if they have RHD centers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let’s look at the health workers’ numbers and qualifications; are they working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are working for me here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do you say so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least every day there is a doctor to look at these patients and after that the pharmacist is there to give them the drugs, and after that there is a RHD nurse who writes down drugs to them and then they come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the numbers?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6943886680463388, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are working for me here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why do you say so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least every day there is a doctor to look at these patients and after that the pharmacist is there to give them the drugs, and after that there is a RHD nurse who writes down drugs to them and then they come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the numbers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The numbers of the health workers?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, that one, you said that they are enough, but how about the number of patients that you as health workers see in a day. How are they?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.771542964495932, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least every day there is a doctor to look at these patients and after that the pharmacist is there to give them the drugs, and after that there is a RHD nurse who writes down drugs to them and then they come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the numbers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The numbers of the health workers?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, that one, you said that they are enough, but how about the number of patients that you as health workers see in a day. How are they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The numbers keep on fluctuating but on average, I think it is okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the medication! Let’s look at BPG, the anticoagulation drugs and heart failure drugs; how are the stocks?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9525221783900395, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The numbers keep on fluctuating but on average, I think it is okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the medication! Let’s look at BPG, the anticoagulation drugs and heart failure drugs; how are the stocks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here in general or?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Here"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The stock here is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. Any gaps?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0583579759889328, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here in general or?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Here"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The stock here is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. Any gaps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No! How about the diagnostics especially the Echoes?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3066147851715217, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No! How about the diagnostics especially the Echoes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are Available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any gaps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What I would say would be the waiting time; other things on average are okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The waiting time! And then the way you keep your records; how does the health information flow? Is it working for you between the out-patients and the in-patients and the registries? What do you have to say about this?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4517942057461353, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are Available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any gaps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What I would say would be the waiting time; other things on average are okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The waiting time! And then the way you keep your records; how does the health information flow? Is it working for you between the out-patients and the in-patients and the registries? What do you have to say about this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The RHD registry is working well; you are able to retrieve patients’ documents, you are also able to retrieve drugs, you are able to retrieve anything you want about the patients; there are contacts. Basically, it would be hard to look for someone with RHD and they are in the registry and anytime you want them you don’t get them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is working well."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6131046730512615, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What I would say would be the waiting time; other things on average are okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The waiting time! And then the way you keep your records; how does the health information flow? Is it working for you between the out-patients and the in-patients and the registries? What do you have to say about this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The RHD registry is working well; you are able to retrieve patients’ documents, you are also able to retrieve drugs, you are able to retrieve anything you want about the patients; there are contacts. Basically, it would be hard to look for someone with RHD and they are in the registry and anytime you want them you don’t get them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is working well."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. How about the ARF registries, are they also inclusive?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7923385256125128, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The RHD registry is working well; you are able to retrieve patients’ documents, you are also able to retrieve drugs, you are able to retrieve anything you want about the patients; there are contacts. Basically, it would be hard to look for someone with RHD and they are in the registry and anytime you want them you don’t get them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is working well."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. How about the ARF registries, are they also inclusive?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I am not so sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then the guidelines and protocols; do you have the guidelines? What do you have to say about the RHD care guidelines and protocols? Do you have them in place? Are there guidelines and protocols in RHD here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9914872506805699, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. How about the ARF registries, are they also inclusive?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I am not so sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then the guidelines and protocols; do you have the guidelines? What do you have to say about the RHD care guidelines and protocols? Do you have them in place? Are there guidelines and protocols in RHD here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but it would be nice, of course you have the information and the exposure but maybe it would be nice for those rooms to have brief chats on it for people who don't know about it, even the patient's themselves can read about it and see that those are notes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have CME sessions here about RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3475151242969994, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but it would be nice, of course you have the information and the exposure but maybe it would be nice for those rooms to have brief chats on it for people who don't know about it, even the patient's themselves can read about it and see that those are notes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have CME sessions here about RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The sessions are there but not often."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Often, because here they conduct themes every Friday, but they are not specific to RHD. So if the case of interest is RHD, then they can talk about RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And are people given opportunity to go and attend?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.497239026996666, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The sessions are there but not often."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Often, because here they conduct themes every Friday, but they are not specific to RHD. So if the case of interest is RHD, then they can talk about RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And are people given opportunity to go and attend?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Everyone is welcome to attend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do they attend?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.6635989188851843, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Often, because here they conduct themes every Friday, but they are not specific to RHD. So if the case of interest is RHD, then they can talk about RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And are people given opportunity to go and attend?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Everyone is welcome to attend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do they attend?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The turn up is not usually good, [laughs] but everyone is allowed to attend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes it a little bit low? What do you think?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7373321320946492, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Everyone is welcome to attend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do they attend?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The turn up is not usually good, [laughs] but everyone is allowed to attend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes it a little bit low? What do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s usually Friday some people might be off, hmm! Then there are those people who just come late, but they announce; people get to know because they put a notice on the notice board. It is not that people just don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "People just choose not to come?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8192579245496102, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The turn up is not usually good, [laughs] but everyone is allowed to attend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes it a little bit low? What do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s usually Friday some people might be off, hmm! Then there are those people who just come late, but they announce; people get to know because they put a notice on the notice board. It is not that people just don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "People just choose not to come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah for some reason's."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So from what we have mentioned; administration, funding, health care, medication, you said most of the pieces are working for you apart from funding ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9102865828329002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s usually Friday some people might be off, hmm! Then there are those people who just come late, but they announce; people get to know because they put a notice on the notice board. It is not that people just don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "People just choose not to come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah for some reason's."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So from what we have mentioned; administration, funding, health care, medication, you said most of the pieces are working for you apart from funding ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "... waiting time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the waiting time. The numbers of health workers are working for you, at least there is a doctor!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0114295364810002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah for some reason's."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So from what we have mentioned; administration, funding, health care, medication, you said most of the pieces are working for you apart from funding ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "... waiting time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the waiting time. The numbers of health workers are working for you, at least there is a doctor!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You found the administration okay."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1238105960900002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "... waiting time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the waiting time. The numbers of health workers are working for you, at least there is a doctor!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You found the administration okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the medication, right?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2486784401000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You found the administration okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the medication, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but the emphasis would maybe be to have working units in regional referrals and other lower places. It would be good people would not have to travel that far to come here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so apart from the local system, what else has motivated you to keep seeing these Patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3874204890000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the medication, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but the emphasis would maybe be to have working units in regional referrals and other lower places. It would be good people would not have to travel that far to come here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so apart from the local system, what else has motivated you to keep seeing these Patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s good if you see someone that you are managing and they are improving. You feel rewarded, you feel better when the patient is feeling better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. So generally, do you think these RHD patients get the care they need? When you think back, do they get the care they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but the emphasis would maybe be to have working units in regional referrals and other lower places. It would be good people would not have to travel that far to come here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so apart from the local system, what else has motivated you to keep seeing these Patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s good if you see someone that you are managing and they are improving. You feel rewarded, you feel better when the patient is feeling better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. So generally, do you think these RHD patients get the care they need? When you think back, do they get the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Medically they do, but via those who need surgery or those who have surgical disease, I think many are delayed. Still it goes back to finances for those who have to pay for the surgery because it’s costly, and then there is that other project in Salaam Center; I think they offered to operate on some people with RHD but they come and assess and I think people are put on the waiting list depending on how severe the condition they are in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the patient's safety and the quality of care concerns you have around here. Is it put into consideration? The quality of care the patients get, are there any concerns you have as a person working here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s good if you see someone that you are managing and they are improving. You feel rewarded, you feel better when the patient is feeling better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. So generally, do you think these RHD patients get the care they need? When you think back, do they get the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Medically they do, but via those who need surgery or those who have surgical disease, I think many are delayed. Still it goes back to finances for those who have to pay for the surgery because it’s costly, and then there is that other project in Salaam Center; I think they offered to operate on some people with RHD but they come and assess and I think people are put on the waiting list depending on how severe the condition they are in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the patient's safety and the quality of care concerns you have around here. Is it put into consideration? The quality of care the patients get, are there any concerns you have as a person working here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[sighs] the quality of care the patients get, I would say it is standard treatment that they get. Concerning the safety bit, I don't know; what exactly should I talk about safety? Is it record keeping, drug effects?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Safety can mean a lot, but first and fore most there are some deaths which occur because the patient was not well managed. Have you had such?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Medically they do, but via those who need surgery or those who have surgical disease, I think many are delayed. Still it goes back to finances for those who have to pay for the surgery because it’s costly, and then there is that other project in Salaam Center; I think they offered to operate on some people with RHD but they come and assess and I think people are put on the waiting list depending on how severe the condition they are in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the patient's safety and the quality of care concerns you have around here. Is it put into consideration? The quality of care the patients get, are there any concerns you have as a person working here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[sighs] the quality of care the patients get, I would say it is standard treatment that they get. Concerning the safety bit, I don't know; what exactly should I talk about safety? Is it record keeping, drug effects?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Safety can mean a lot, but first and fore most there are some deaths which occur because the patient was not well managed. Have you had such?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in my short practice [chuckles], yeah, we get one or two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell us what happened?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[sighs] the quality of care the patients get, I would say it is standard treatment that they get. Concerning the safety bit, I don't know; what exactly should I talk about safety? Is it record keeping, drug effects?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Safety can mean a lot, but first and fore most there are some deaths which occur because the patient was not well managed. Have you had such?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in my short practice [chuckles], yeah, we get one or two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell us what happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think this patient was on anticoagulation and then she got a subdural hematoma if I remember well, and there was a time lag between getting the Neurosurgeon, coming to work then the follow up and we ended up losing the patient. Though they had worked on the patient, there was a bit of time lag."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other you can remember?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in my short practice [chuckles], yeah, we get one or two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell us what happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think this patient was on anticoagulation and then she got a subdural hematoma if I remember well, and there was a time lag between getting the Neurosurgeon, coming to work then the follow up and we ended up losing the patient. Though they had worked on the patient, there was a bit of time lag."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other you can remember?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Any other? No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. So if someone asked you “how is the quality of care of patients here? What would you say?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think this patient was on anticoagulation and then she got a subdural hematoma if I remember well, and there was a time lag between getting the Neurosurgeon, coming to work then the follow up and we ended up losing the patient. Though they had worked on the patient, there was a bit of time lag."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other you can remember?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Any other? No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. So if someone asked you “how is the quality of care of patients here? What would you say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On average, good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On average good! Why not 100%? What is lacking?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Any other? No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. So if someone asked you “how is the quality of care of patients here? What would you say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On average, good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On average good! Why not 100%? What is lacking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] it can't be 100%."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You think it can’t be?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "On average, good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On average good! Why not 100%? What is lacking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] it can't be 100%."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You think it can’t be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the moment that is what I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you think can be done in the future to shoot it to 100%?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] it can't be 100%."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You think it can’t be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the moment that is what I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you think can be done in the future to shoot it to 100%?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you get people to specifically attend to these patients, um, given priorities when they are doing these investigations. Of course here Echo is done for free and consultation is free, but there are those other blood tests that they have to go for. If there is more funding for that, it would be good to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is the last one. Do you think patients are dying in communities without presenting to the hospital for proper treatment?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the moment that is what I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you think can be done in the future to shoot it to 100%?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you get people to specifically attend to these patients, um, given priorities when they are doing these investigations. Of course here Echo is done for free and consultation is free, but there are those other blood tests that they have to go for. If there is more funding for that, it would be good to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is the last one. Do you think patients are dying in communities without presenting to the hospital for proper treatment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There could be some. An example is of some boy who is on ward right now; he is 15 years old but he came in when he was all swollen, hardly breathing, coughing, very weak, and he had been in the village without coming to the hospital. The moment he came here, he was diagnosed with RHD; he started on treatment and he has bad disease. All his disease is severe and he would benefit from the surgery. But giving that example, I think there are some patients out there who may need help."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After talking to that patient, what could have led to the delay to come here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you get people to specifically attend to these patients, um, given priorities when they are doing these investigations. Of course here Echo is done for free and consultation is free, but there are those other blood tests that they have to go for. If there is more funding for that, it would be good to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is the last one. Do you think patients are dying in communities without presenting to the hospital for proper treatment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There could be some. An example is of some boy who is on ward right now; he is 15 years old but he came in when he was all swollen, hardly breathing, coughing, very weak, and he had been in the village without coming to the hospital. The moment he came here, he was diagnosed with RHD; he started on treatment and he has bad disease. All his disease is severe and he would benefit from the surgery. But giving that example, I think there are some patients out there who may need help."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After talking to that patient, what could have led to the delay to come here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mother is always saying “I don't have money. I don’t have money for even feeding, so where will I get money for treatment?” Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are the two most important things that the MOH can do to improve the outcomes? What are those things?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00025:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There could be some. An example is of some boy who is on ward right now; he is 15 years old but he came in when he was all swollen, hardly breathing, coughing, very weak, and he had been in the village without coming to the hospital. The moment he came here, he was diagnosed with RHD; he started on treatment and he has bad disease. All his disease is severe and he would benefit from the surgery. But giving that example, I think there are some patients out there who may need help."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After talking to that patient, what could have led to the delay to come here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mother is always saying “I don't have money. I don’t have money for even feeding, so where will I get money for treatment?” Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are the two most important things that the MOH can do to improve the outcomes? What are those things?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think first of all they should, like the way they sensitize for these other disease conditions, there should be people out there talking about how RHD comes in, the initial stages, people should seek health care and even people at the lowest health facilities should have an idea of how to diagnose and treat it appropriately in the government setting. In the government setting which is purely government, they should endeavor to have drugs, supplies and the tests should be done in those settings not necessarily in specific places or private settings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else as we finish?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.45945543714279435, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In school it’s always pen and paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, good or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[inaudible]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "More fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so I can be giving the same composition title but one pen and paper, one typed, you prefer the one that is typing? But why would typing be more fun?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5105060412697715, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[inaudible]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "More fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so I can be giving the same composition title but one pen and paper, one typed, you prefer the one that is typing? But why would typing be more fun?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because got screen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Got screen, okay I’ll come back to that. What about Jonah?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5672289347441906, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "More fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so I can be giving the same composition title but one pen and paper, one typed, you prefer the one that is typing? But why would typing be more fun?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because got screen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Got screen, okay I’ll come back to that. What about Jonah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s more relaxed over here, I do more things. The cher will...for school they don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, can you tell me what are some of the more things you do here that makes it more relaxing?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6302543719379895, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because got screen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Got screen, okay I’ll come back to that. What about Jonah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s more relaxed over here, I do more things. The cher will...for school they don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, can you tell me what are some of the more things you do here that makes it more relaxing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get to listen to music while we write down the essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So that’s...do you learn better when you’re relaxed? Because sometimes adults say you must discipline, then you will do better. But which one works better for you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7002826354866549, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s more relaxed over here, I do more things. The cher will...for school they don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, can you tell me what are some of the more things you do here that makes it more relaxing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get to listen to music while we write down the essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So that’s...do you learn better when you’re relaxed? Because sometimes adults say you must discipline, then you will do better. But which one works better for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both? But I prefer the relaxed one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The more relaxed one, okay. I’ll come back to you to say what are some of the things that made it more relaxing here. What about you Jack?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9606071817375238, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get to listen to music while we write down the essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So that’s...do you learn better when you’re relaxed? Because sometimes adults say you must discipline, then you will do better. But which one works better for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both? But I prefer the relaxed one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The more relaxed one, okay. I’ll come back to you to say what are some of the things that made it more relaxing here. What about you Jack?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We use the laptop more frequently [in CDAC]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Back in school I thought Sec 3 now all have the laptop in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.067341313041693, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both? But I prefer the relaxed one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The more relaxed one, okay. I’ll come back to you to say what are some of the things that made it more relaxing here. What about you Jack?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We use the laptop more frequently [in CDAC]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Back in school I thought Sec 3 now all have the laptop in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t let use.\n\nMostly it’s restricted.\n\nMine’s not restricted,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so there’s no...you bring the laptop all the way to school and then not use it?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.185934792268548, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We use the laptop more frequently [in CDAC]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Back in school I thought Sec 3 now all have the laptop in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t let use.\n\nMostly it’s restricted.\n\nMine’s not restricted,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so there’s no...you bring the laptop all the way to school and then not use it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we got use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you? I mean you do have this personal device in school, so how is it used differently here compared to school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.317705324742831, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t let use.\n\nMostly it’s restricted.\n\nMine’s not restricted,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so there’s no...you bring the laptop all the way to school and then not use it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we got use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you? I mean you do have this personal device in school, so how is it used differently here compared to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We rarely use it in school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so how is the use of the laptop more fun here? Just now you talked about screen right, cannot just the screen right?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.4641170274920343, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we got use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you? I mean you do have this personal device in school, so how is it used differently here compared to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We rarely use it in school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so how is the use of the laptop more fun here? Just now you talked about screen right, cannot just the screen right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the screen got colour, if not you’re just staring at a black and white paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, apart from that what makes it fun? He says it’s colour, for you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5156855861022602, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We rarely use it in school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so how is the use of the laptop more fun here? Just now you talked about screen right, cannot just the screen right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the screen got colour, if not you’re just staring at a black and white paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, apart from that what makes it fun? He says it’s colour, for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The internet. If you run out of ideas for writing for Scribo you can go to the other tab to do whatever you want, play chess while thinking on how to continue the essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you’re more in control, you can go here there everywhere. What has helped you with the use of Scribo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5729839845580669, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the screen got colour, if not you’re just staring at a black and white paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, apart from that what makes it fun? He says it’s colour, for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The internet. If you run out of ideas for writing for Scribo you can go to the other tab to do whatever you want, play chess while thinking on how to continue the essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you’re more in control, you can go here there everywhere. What has helped you with the use of Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like if I don’t know a word I can google it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay on the side you go and ask ChatGPT or something like that. ...So what else has helped apart from the fact that you can go and get help? Does the Scribo check help?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6366488717311855, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The internet. If you run out of ideas for writing for Scribo you can go to the other tab to do whatever you want, play chess while thinking on how to continue the essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you’re more in control, you can go here there everywhere. What has helped you with the use of Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like if I don’t know a word I can google it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay on the side you go and ask ChatGPT or something like that. ...So what else has helped apart from the fact that you can go and get help? Does the Scribo check help?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It just tells you what you get wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, just like teacher in school right, just tell you what is wrong. But which one do you prefer? Teacher telling you or Scribo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7073876352568726, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like if I don’t know a word I can google it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay on the side you go and ask ChatGPT or something like that. ...So what else has helped apart from the fact that you can go and get help? Does the Scribo check help?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It just tells you what you get wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, just like teacher in school right, just tell you what is wrong. But which one do you prefer? Teacher telling you or Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scribo. Because nothing scolds you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so Scribo doesn’t scold, Scribo just tells you it’s wrong. But does it also give you suggestions? And can you make sense of the suggestions?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7859862613965252, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It just tells you what you get wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, just like teacher in school right, just tell you what is wrong. But which one do you prefer? Teacher telling you or Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scribo. Because nothing scolds you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so Scribo doesn’t scold, Scribo just tells you it’s wrong. But does it also give you suggestions? And can you make sense of the suggestions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so then what do you do? Just ignore?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8733180682183613, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scribo. Because nothing scolds you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so Scribo doesn’t scold, Scribo just tells you it’s wrong. But does it also give you suggestions? And can you make sense of the suggestions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so then what do you do? Just ignore?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just write some random word and hope it gets right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but I thought it will suggest words right?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9703534091315126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so then what do you do? Just ignore?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just write some random word and hope it gets right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but I thought it will suggest words right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes it suggests the word, but then you check again and it suggests you another word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What about you Jonah? What was it about Scribo that was helpful or not helpful?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0781704545905695, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just write some random word and hope it gets right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but I thought it will suggest words right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes it suggests the word, but then you check again and it suggests you another word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What about you Jonah? What was it about Scribo that was helpful or not helpful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean it tells you what’s wrong but since it’s on the computer you can type and erase easily. Can also paragraph...not like you can do on pen and paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah so copy paste, it’s not so irritating where you have to use..."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1979671717672993, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes it suggests the word, but then you check again and it suggests you another word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What about you Jonah? What was it about Scribo that was helpful or not helpful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean it tells you what’s wrong but since it’s on the computer you can type and erase easily. Can also paragraph...not like you can do on pen and paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah so copy paste, it’s not so irritating where you have to use..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh but Scribo cannot copy paste."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Control C control V , you have to figure out what was the issue with it. So it’s easier to edit in that sense? Okay. What about Jack? In what way was Scribo helpful or not helpful?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.331074635296999, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean it tells you what’s wrong but since it’s on the computer you can type and erase easily. 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Scribo gives you a score right, is that helpful or not helpful?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4789718169966657, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh but Scribo cannot copy paste."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Control C control V , you have to figure out what was the issue with it. So it’s easier to edit in that sense? Okay. What about Jack? In what way was Scribo helpful or not helpful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Can correct your mistake."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about the score? Scribo gives you a score right, is that helpful or not helpful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Competitiveness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was that score helpful for you? In what way was it helpful?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6433020188851841, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Can correct your mistake."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about the score? Scribo gives you a score right, is that helpful or not helpful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Competitiveness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was that score helpful for you? In what way was it helpful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you get a higher score it encourages you to write more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it’s interesting you say “encourages” but James says “competitive. Competing with who?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.825891132094649, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Competitiveness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was that score helpful for you? In what way was it helpful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you get a higher score it encourages you to write more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it’s interesting you say “encourages” but James says “competitive. Competing with who?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The people next to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have y’all done that before, competing with one another? Can you trust the score?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.2541865828329, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you get a higher score it encourages you to write more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it’s interesting you say “encourages” but James says “competitive. Competing with who?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The people next to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have y’all done that before, competing with one another? Can you trust the score?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can’t trust the score? 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You have to give something for it to actually run through in the first case. Just a way of recap, did y’all write a speech at the beginning of the year?...and then there was an expository composition...so how many pieces of writing did y’all have?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34867844010000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because it doesn’t mark for content.\n\nIt’s straight up from 90 marks to 50 marks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah it marks for grammar. Actually the way Scribo works is that is starts off with a 100 marks, and then it starts to deduct."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So if we don’t write anything we can get a 100?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No of course not. 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Is that the same for Jonah and Jack as well?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:60", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "2 or 3."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so let’s do with the 2 that you obviously remember, the one about writing a speech and the exposition. I’m trying to find out if at the beginning you found it difficult to use Scribo and then now it becomes better or...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[shakes head]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. You mean immediately you were able to make use of Scribo and it makes sense to you? Is that the same for Jonah and Jack as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[shakes head]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you still found it very difficult to use. 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For Jonah?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:76", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Corrections teacher throw back to us and tell us to do corrections, if you don’t want no need do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I’ve marked it, I throw it back to you then you have to do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No if you do you do, you don’t want to do don’t do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh it’s optional? For Jonah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Haven’t done like an email compo in a very long time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh? Was your WA a compo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:78", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No if you do you do, you don’t want to do don’t do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh it’s optional? For Jonah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Haven’t done like an email compo in a very long time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh? Was your WA a compo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because WA was a essay writing or something. “Say no to waste”."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I imagine that before WA I know teachers are super kiasu they will do a lot of practice before that right? 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Do you prepare for WA?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t study."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do y’all study for Math? Science?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No.\n\nNo.\n\n[nods head]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "James you were saying you do study for your other subjects so how do you go about studying for the subjects?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:120", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t study."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do y’all study for Math? Science?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No.\n\nNo.\n\n[nods head]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "James you were saying you do study for your other subjects so how do you go about studying for the subjects?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Take out a book and then just start writing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For Math or for English?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:126", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Take out a book and then just start writing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For Math or for English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For Math and Science."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Write what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Take out assessment book"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so do you do that for English then?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:128", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For Math and Science."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Write what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Take out assessment book"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so do you do that for English then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Math and Science only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you also do that for English?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00003:130", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Take out assessment book"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so do you do that for English then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Math and Science only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you also do that for English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[shakes head]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So that has always been the case for English language preparation or for English WA that has always been the case?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.893279276078875, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Laziness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if your organizational change project could be perceived as a story, and then I have like a couple of these... who would you say was the protagonist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(You mean) someone within the organization?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It doesn't have to be a person. It can be whatever you want it to be."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay... (oh) boy... OK, Hercules."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so that was the hero, right? The protagonist?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.103643640087639, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "(You mean) someone within the organization?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It doesn't have to be a person. It can be whatever you want it to be."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay... (oh) boy... OK, Hercules."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so that was the hero, right? The protagonist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Who would you say was the antagonist of the story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.337381822319599, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay... (oh) boy... OK, Hercules."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so that was the hero, right? The protagonist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Who would you say was the antagonist of the story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The establishment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you say was the inciting moment that kind of triggered the protagonist to go on this change journey? Maybe it's like something internals, maybe something external."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.597090913688443, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Who would you say was the antagonist of the story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The establishment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you say was the inciting moment that kind of triggered the protagonist to go on this change journey? Maybe it's like something internals, maybe something external."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Weak succession planning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the biggest conflict during this journey?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.885656570764936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The establishment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you say was the inciting moment that kind of triggered the protagonist to go on this change journey? Maybe it's like something internals, maybe something external."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Weak succession planning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the biggest conflict during this journey?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Over engineering,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you say was the genre of this story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.206285078627707, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Weak succession planning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the biggest conflict during this journey?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Over engineering,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you say was the genre of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aha!... Oh, boy. A... Well like the movie imitation game. So it's like, crack the crack the code and solve the puzzle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it's like a mystery, right?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5625389762530077, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Over engineering,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you say was the genre of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aha!... Oh, boy. A... Well like the movie imitation game. So it's like, crack the crack the code and solve the puzzle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it's like a mystery, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. That's great. What would you say was the moral of this story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.9583766402811196, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aha!... Oh, boy. A... Well like the movie imitation game. So it's like, crack the crack the code and solve the puzzle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it's like a mystery, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. That's great. What would you say was the moral of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Collaboration, collaboration, collaborate. Yeah. Collaboration. That's one more. I think what that sums it up for you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a certain darkened version in this story where you know, something good, turned out to be bad or maybe something better not to be good?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.3981962669790216, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. That's great. What would you say was the moral of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Collaboration, collaboration, collaborate. Yeah. Collaboration. That's one more. I think what that sums it up for you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a certain darkened version in this story where you know, something good, turned out to be bad or maybe something better not to be good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Conflict can be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a certain metaphor that you frequently used to either, you know, talk to your people or maybe describe this whole change journey?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.886884741087801, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Collaboration, collaboration, collaborate. Yeah. Collaboration. That's one more. I think what that sums it up for you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a certain darkened version in this story where you know, something good, turned out to be bad or maybe something better not to be good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Conflict can be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a certain metaphor that you frequently used to either, you know, talk to your people or maybe describe this whole change journey?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The metaphor, I mean, more like... Employee agency, giving agency to employees. Them having a voice not taking over, but then being included.,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you say was your biggest revelation from this story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.4298719345420015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Conflict can be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a certain metaphor that you frequently used to either, you know, talk to your people or maybe describe this whole change journey?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The metaphor, I mean, more like... Employee agency, giving agency to employees. Them having a voice not taking over, but then being included.,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you say was your biggest revelation from this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wow, okay... (pauses) I'd say it's an interesting of trying to find revelation for sure. A few more words, but cultural differences between wanting to be a dictator, and wanting a dictator (as your leader) or wanting a hands off leader."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you talk me through an anecdote which will demonstrate how did these change recipients behave before the change started?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.033191038380002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The metaphor, I mean, more like... Employee agency, giving agency to employees. Them having a voice not taking over, but then being included.,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you say was your biggest revelation from this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wow, okay... (pauses) I'd say it's an interesting of trying to find revelation for sure. A few more words, but cultural differences between wanting to be a dictator, and wanting a dictator (as your leader) or wanting a hands off leader."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you talk me through an anecdote which will demonstrate how did these change recipients behave before the change started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that everyone on the team recognize the need to do something different. So obviously, our project was to create a new talent identification and succession planning framework and process for the company to use. And... We were all on board with that mission. And we were excited to we were a global team, we are excited to work with each other and come up with something better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you see any evidence of comfort or being at ease (uhm...) not perceiving that there's any change needed?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.703545598200002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wow, okay... (pauses) I'd say it's an interesting of trying to find revelation for sure. A few more words, but cultural differences between wanting to be a dictator, and wanting a dictator (as your leader) or wanting a hands off leader."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you talk me through an anecdote which will demonstrate how did these change recipients behave before the change started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that everyone on the team recognize the need to do something different. So obviously, our project was to create a new talent identification and succession planning framework and process for the company to use. And... We were all on board with that mission. And we were excited to we were a global team, we are excited to work with each other and come up with something better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you see any evidence of comfort or being at ease (uhm...) not perceiving that there's any change needed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think everybody knew that change was required. I think we were excited to create the change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a certain awakening moment that you can recall?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.4483839980000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that everyone on the team recognize the need to do something different. So obviously, our project was to create a new talent identification and succession planning framework and process for the company to use. And... We were all on board with that mission. And we were excited to we were a global team, we are excited to work with each other and come up with something better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you see any evidence of comfort or being at ease (uhm...) not perceiving that there's any change needed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think everybody knew that change was required. I think we were excited to create the change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a certain awakening moment that you can recall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, for me, I had my awakening moment, long before the project. In our individual country, I was responsible for using the old framework with leaders. And almost every leader either didn't really understand it, or used it differently. Or was confused by it. So for me, I was having the awakening moments long before we were called on to replace the framework. For me when I got the call to to to take action, I was like, I'm on board, we should we should absolutely be doing this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you see any type of resistance in its when the change was initially announced? Did you see any type of resistance manifesting?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00004:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.275982220000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think everybody knew that change was required. I think we were excited to create the change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a certain awakening moment that you can recall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, for me, I had my awakening moment, long before the project. In our individual country, I was responsible for using the old framework with leaders. And almost every leader either didn't really understand it, or used it differently. Or was confused by it. So for me, I was having the awakening moments long before we were called on to replace the framework. For me when I got the call to to to take action, I was like, I'm on board, we should we should absolutely be doing this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you see any type of resistance in its when the change was initially announced? Did you see any type of resistance manifesting?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that much. To be honest. We maybe had one team member internally, who resisted a little bit more than others. But we had we had our internal team, we have, we had a sounding board of high level HR people throughout the world. And we had our group HR, our corporate HR committee, the highest level people in the world. And almost always, they were positive about the need for change. And the way we were going about the change the new framework, so there were pockets of resistance, and maybe some individual elements of the new framework we were proposing, they didn't love. But we took that feedback and did it again and figured it out. So mostly is very much supported by almost everybody."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how did you communicate this change to recipients? Is there a certain, train of thought that you shared maybe, you know, certain metaphors or certain communication patterns that were aimed that maybe... emphasize benefits or maybe addressing resistance or things like this? Could you walk us through that a little bit?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8306253875870966, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably a 7."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "7? Okay right now you think about why is it a 7 and then you describe to me. What about Ricky?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "7 also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "7 also? Okay that’s great what about Raymond? Raymond you joined a little later, but out of 10, 10 as in excellent, wonderful or...how do you feel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "7."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh 7? All of y’all united. What about Ruby?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9229170973189962, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "7 also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "7 also? Okay that’s great what about Raymond? Raymond you joined a little later, but out of 10, 10 as in excellent, wonderful or...how do you feel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "7."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh 7? All of y’all united. What about Ruby?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Around 5."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So let’s hear the reasons, why is it 7, not 5 not 10 for you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0254634414655512, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "7."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh 7? All of y’all united. What about Ruby?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Around 5."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So let’s hear the reasons, why is it 7, not 5 not 10 for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For me the reason why it’s not under 5...I mean it’s a well done tool for us to use it for ourselves, example like essays and stuff. But the reason why I don’t put as very as 10 is because it only spots spelling mistakes and grammar mistakes. It doesn’t really spot the general content of what you’re writing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it posts mechanical errors, but not-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1394038238506123, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Around 5."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So let’s hear the reasons, why is it 7, not 5 not 10 for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For me the reason why it’s not under 5...I mean it’s a well done tool for us to use it for ourselves, example like essays and stuff. But the reason why I don’t put as very as 10 is because it only spots spelling mistakes and grammar mistakes. It doesn’t really spot the general content of what you’re writing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it posts mechanical errors, but not-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s not really complete."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but I thought they can also ...sticky sentences, the other 2 groups always talk to me about the sentences, they help you decide if it’s too long too short."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2660042487229026, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For me the reason why it’s not under 5...I mean it’s a well done tool for us to use it for ourselves, example like essays and stuff. But the reason why I don’t put as very as 10 is because it only spots spelling mistakes and grammar mistakes. It doesn’t really spot the general content of what you’re writing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it posts mechanical errors, but not-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s not really complete."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but I thought they can also ...sticky sentences, the other 2 groups always talk to me about the sentences, they help you decide if it’s too long too short."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it will decide for you but usually for myself I don’t replace it sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why don’t you replace it?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4066713874698917, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s not really complete."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but I thought they can also ...sticky sentences, the other 2 groups always talk to me about the sentences, they help you decide if it’s too long too short."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it will decide for you but usually for myself I don’t replace it sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why don’t you replace it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes it feels wrong. It may feel wrong and it may feel right at the same time, but usually it may feel wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so you talk about that one because I want to understand that a little bit more. By the way if I ask follow up questions it’s not because I don’t believe you or whatever, it’s because I need to understand more, I need to walk in your shoes more."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5629682082998797, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it will decide for you but usually for myself I don’t replace it sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why don’t you replace it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes it feels wrong. It may feel wrong and it may feel right at the same time, but usually it may feel wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so you talk about that one because I want to understand that a little bit more. By the way if I ask follow up questions it’s not because I don’t believe you or whatever, it’s because I need to understand more, I need to walk in your shoes more."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have a question, can we keep the markers?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If that’s helpful, if you want that. Okay, so Ricky why 7? Why not 5, why not 10?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.7366313425554218, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes it feels wrong. It may feel wrong and it may feel right at the same time, but usually it may feel wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so you talk about that one because I want to understand that a little bit more. By the way if I ask follow up questions it’s not because I don’t believe you or whatever, it’s because I need to understand more, I need to walk in your shoes more."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have a question, can we keep the markers?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If that’s helpful, if you want that. Okay, so Ricky why 7? Why not 5, why not 10?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Basically the same thing as Ryan,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cannot do that..."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8184792695060241, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have a question, can we keep the markers?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If that’s helpful, if you want that. Okay, so Ricky why 7? Why not 5, why not 10?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Basically the same thing as Ryan,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cannot do that..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like it helps you with all your studies and everything, it’s like a general knowledge. Like when you write something about stuff, they just talk about the wrong spelling mistakes, similar to Ryan.\n\nThey say that something is wrong, your spelling is wrong, better sentence to use. So it’s like those kind of Youtube ads, Grammarly, something like that one. But the thing is it doesn’t go with the topic, it just suggests you the best answer.\n\nSo it’s basically like AI program. Like when you make coffee, the ?? function, it still does the same thing even if there’s nothing being done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s like those coffee machines when there’s no capsule and it’s still trying to make water and all that."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2474916468617956, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Basically the same thing as Ryan,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cannot do that..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like it helps you with all your studies and everything, it’s like a general knowledge. Like when you write something about stuff, they just talk about the wrong spelling mistakes, similar to Ryan.\n\nThey say that something is wrong, your spelling is wrong, better sentence to use. So it’s like those kind of Youtube ads, Grammarly, something like that one. But the thing is it doesn’t go with the topic, it just suggests you the best answer.\n\nSo it’s basically like AI program. Like when you make coffee, the ?? function, it still does the same thing even if there’s nothing being done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s like those coffee machines when there’s no capsule and it’s still trying to make water and all that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like when it’s trying to draw but it doesn’t pick up the pen properly but still draws. Nothing comes out because the pen was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, wow very much into AI. We’ll talk about that later on, but very quickly out of curiosity do y’all use Scribo also with your schoolwork?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3861018298464396, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like it helps you with all your studies and everything, it’s like a general knowledge. Like when you write something about stuff, they just talk about the wrong spelling mistakes, similar to Ryan.\n\nThey say that something is wrong, your spelling is wrong, better sentence to use. So it’s like those kind of Youtube ads, Grammarly, something like that one. But the thing is it doesn’t go with the topic, it just suggests you the best answer.\n\nSo it’s basically like AI program. Like when you make coffee, the ?? function, it still does the same thing even if there’s nothing being done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s like those coffee machines when there’s no capsule and it’s still trying to make water and all that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like when it’s trying to draw but it doesn’t pick up the pen properly but still draws. Nothing comes out because the pen was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, wow very much into AI. We’ll talk about that later on, but very quickly out of curiosity do y’all use Scribo also with your schoolwork?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No.\n\nNo.\n\nNo.\n\nNo never, because our teachers don’t support AI."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, your teachers don’t allow for them to be used?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.790263141078792, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No.\n\nNo.\n\nNo.\n\nNo never, because our teachers don’t support AI."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, your teachers don’t allow for them to be used?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe because we can use it to cheat, it does make a point when the teacher doesn’t allow us to use because we use it as our advantage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "...using ChatGPT."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Could be the same [inaudible] also.\n\nOur school don’t support ChatGPT."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but anyone using Grammarly, or QuillBot? Quillbot is actually paraphrasing tool, but I hope y’all don’t see Scribo as a cheating thing right, because it’s supposed to be helping..."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:30", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8780701567542134, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe because we can use it to cheat, it does make a point when the teacher doesn’t allow us to use because we use it as our advantage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "...using ChatGPT."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Could be the same [inaudible] also.\n\nOur school don’t support ChatGPT."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but anyone using Grammarly, or QuillBot? Quillbot is actually paraphrasing tool, but I hope y’all don’t see Scribo as a cheating thing right, because it’s supposed to be helping..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a tool for you to output your essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, it’s a tool, and like ChatGPT it can be used for good or for bad. How Raymond? Why 7 out of 10?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:32", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9756335075046816, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Could be the same [inaudible] also.\n\nOur school don’t support ChatGPT."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but anyone using Grammarly, or QuillBot? Quillbot is actually paraphrasing tool, but I hope y’all don’t see Scribo as a cheating thing right, because it’s supposed to be helping..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a tool for you to output your essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, it’s a tool, and like ChatGPT it can be used for good or for bad. How Raymond? Why 7 out of 10?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like what Ryan said I think it was okay because it also doesn’t identify the content, only the spelling errors and then [inaudible] write wrong sentence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see, okay why not 5 or 4 if it can only pick out-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0840372305607573, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a tool for you to output your essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, it’s a tool, and like ChatGPT it can be used for good or for bad. How Raymond? Why 7 out of 10?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like what Ryan said I think it was okay because it also doesn’t identify the content, only the spelling errors and then [inaudible] write wrong sentence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see, okay why not 5 or 4 if it can only pick out-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’ve only been here for 3 lessons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so the 3 lessons one whole unit you finished right? The whole unit of writing or something like that? How often have you used it for Scribo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2044858117341748, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like what Ryan said I think it was okay because it also doesn’t identify the content, only the spelling errors and then [inaudible] write wrong sentence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see, okay why not 5 or 4 if it can only pick out-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’ve only been here for 3 lessons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so the 3 lessons one whole unit you finished right? The whole unit of writing or something like that? How often have you used it for Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "2 lessons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Can you describe for me so I know where you are in relation to the rest? How do you use Scribo? Do you recall?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3383175685935276, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’ve only been here for 3 lessons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so the 3 lessons one whole unit you finished right? The whole unit of writing or something like that? How often have you used it for Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "2 lessons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Can you describe for me so I know where you are in relation to the rest? How do you use Scribo? Do you recall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I type out everything then after that I check for spelling errors and the grammar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you just hit the “check” button?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.487019520659475, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "2 lessons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Can you describe for me so I know where you are in relation to the rest? How do you use Scribo? Do you recall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I type out everything then after that I check for spelling errors and the grammar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you just hit the “check” button?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then after that I fix it up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so like in Ryan’s case you said you might decide not to change, not to-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.652243911843861, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I type out everything then after that I check for spelling errors and the grammar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you just hit the “check” button?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then after that I fix it up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so like in Ryan’s case you said you might decide not to change, not to-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes suggestion wrong, sometimes suggestion don’t want to change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me an example when it was wrong?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.835826568715401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then after that I fix it up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so like in Ryan’s case you said you might decide not to change, not to-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes suggestion wrong, sometimes suggestion don’t want to change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me an example when it was wrong?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Forget the word already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay no problem. By the way if any point in time there’s a question you’re not comfortable answering, you can just let me know. Or maybe I could be phrasing it very badly. So Ruby, why 5? I think you gave the lowest score."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0398072985726676, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes suggestion wrong, sometimes suggestion don’t want to change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me an example when it was wrong?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Forget the word already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay no problem. By the way if any point in time there’s a question you’re not comfortable answering, you can just let me know. Or maybe I could be phrasing it very badly. So Ruby, why 5? I think you gave the lowest score."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah because there’s some pros and cons to it, for example pros although it can help you give straightforward ideas, but the cons are actually when the grammar issues start to come in, they just randomly put the word and just come in.\n\nSo some students blindly just accept accept accept. But then when we check the entire essay again, the grammar is all wrong. Grammar is a bit here and there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can you give me a specific example?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2664525539696307, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Forget the word already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay no problem. By the way if any point in time there’s a question you’re not comfortable answering, you can just let me know. Or maybe I could be phrasing it very badly. So Ruby, why 5? I think you gave the lowest score."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah because there’s some pros and cons to it, for example pros although it can help you give straightforward ideas, but the cons are actually when the grammar issues start to come in, they just randomly put the word and just come in.\n\nSo some students blindly just accept accept accept. But then when we check the entire essay again, the grammar is all wrong. Grammar is a bit here and there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can you give me a specific example?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I forgot the word already, it’s a long time ago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So I hear from y’all that...do you find yourself, whether you accept or not, do you find that your schoolwork is better in terms of grammar? Any changes in there? Of course Raymond is only 3 lessons in."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.518280615521812, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah because there’s some pros and cons to it, for example pros although it can help you give straightforward ideas, but the cons are actually when the grammar issues start to come in, they just randomly put the word and just come in.\n\nSo some students blindly just accept accept accept. But then when we check the entire essay again, the grammar is all wrong. Grammar is a bit here and there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can you give me a specific example?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I forgot the word already, it’s a long time ago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So I hear from y’all that...do you find yourself, whether you accept or not, do you find that your schoolwork is better in terms of grammar? Any changes in there? Of course Raymond is only 3 lessons in."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Before or after using?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Before and after can you compare? Any changes? Improvement, not improvement?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7980895728020134, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I forgot the word already, it’s a long time ago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So I hear from y’all that...do you find yourself, whether you accept or not, do you find that your schoolwork is better in terms of grammar? Any changes in there? Of course Raymond is only 3 lessons in."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Before or after using?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Before and after can you compare? Any changes? Improvement, not improvement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The before one was better for mine, but after using Scribo it was worser."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Worse? In school or?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.1089884142244593, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Before or after using?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Before and after can you compare? Any changes? Improvement, not improvement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The before one was better for mine, but after using Scribo it was worser."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Worse? In school or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In school also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, we’ll come back to understanding in what way is it worse, but for the 2 gentlemen who gave it a 7?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.3433204602493993, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The before one was better for mine, but after using Scribo it was worser."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Worse? In school or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In school also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, we’ll come back to understanding in what way is it worse, but for the 2 gentlemen who gave it a 7?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No change from my point of view. Because my English like my grammar and spelling is also very bad so I don’t see any changes. From my point of view."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure sure, but...for your WA did you feel that you were more confident, less confident, doing better for your WA?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4925782891659993, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In school also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, we’ll come back to understanding in what way is it worse, but for the 2 gentlemen who gave it a 7?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No change from my point of view. Because my English like my grammar and spelling is also very bad so I don’t see any changes. From my point of view."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure sure, but...for your WA did you feel that you were more confident, less confident, doing better for your WA?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since WA2 was tested on comprehension, so I don’t feel like- I just take average, don’t really have any [inaudible], then my confidence is only [inaudible]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it’s the same?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6584203212955548, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No change from my point of view. Because my English like my grammar and spelling is also very bad so I don’t see any changes. From my point of view."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure sure, but...for your WA did you feel that you were more confident, less confident, doing better for your WA?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since WA2 was tested on comprehension, so I don’t feel like- I just take average, don’t really have any [inaudible], then my confidence is only [inaudible]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it’s the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it’s just the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you so much, Ricky how?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8426892458839499, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since WA2 was tested on comprehension, so I don’t feel like- I just take average, don’t really have any [inaudible], then my confidence is only [inaudible]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it’s the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it’s just the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you so much, Ricky how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Slightly better since there are new words, they show you the synonym that you can use. Then I remember them, then after that I put it in the exam."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so your WA was a compo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.047432495426611, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it’s just the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you so much, Ricky how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Slightly better since there are new words, they show you the synonym that you can use. Then I remember them, then after that I put it in the exam."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so your WA was a compo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you managed to use the synonyms in the WA. Did your teachers see any difference during this past term for your common? Did they say anything-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2749249949184565, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Slightly better since there are new words, they show you the synonym that you can use. Then I remember them, then after that I put it in the exam."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so your WA was a compo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you managed to use the synonyms in the WA. Did your teachers see any difference during this past term for your common? Did they say anything-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Say my use of word is slightly better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s good congrats. Raymond? 3 weeks only but what do you feel yourself? Any changes, improvement?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5276944387982847, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you managed to use the synonyms in the WA. Did your teachers see any difference during this past term for your common? Did they say anything-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Say my use of word is slightly better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s good congrats. Raymond? 3 weeks only but what do you feel yourself? Any changes, improvement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[shakes head] Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay fair fair. Ruby I’m very curious why you said worse, now that you’ve gone in this program."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8085493764425387, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Say my use of word is slightly better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s good congrats. Raymond? 3 weeks only but what do you feel yourself? Any changes, improvement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[shakes head] Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay fair fair. Ruby I’m very curious why you said worse, now that you’ve gone in this program."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because before when I started this Scribo thing, I was passing my English exam. Then suddenly I used Scribo and it just went downhill."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, the exam was in WA right, sometimes there’s a difference between Sec 2 and Sec 3, could it be because of the difference from Sec 2 to Sec 3?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.120610418269487, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[shakes head] Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay fair fair. Ruby I’m very curious why you said worse, now that you’ve gone in this program."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because before when I started this Scribo thing, I was passing my English exam. Then suddenly I used Scribo and it just went downhill."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, the exam was in WA right, sometimes there’s a difference between Sec 2 and Sec 3, could it be because of the difference from Sec 2 to Sec 3?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what was your WA this time?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.356233798077208, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because before when I started this Scribo thing, I was passing my English exam. Then suddenly I used Scribo and it just went downhill."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, the exam was in WA right, sometimes there’s a difference between Sec 2 and Sec 3, could it be because of the difference from Sec 2 to Sec 3?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what was your WA this time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This time was not compre, not compo, was planned response. I tried to use the words from Scribo but then when the teacher gave me the feedback, she said some of the grammar was wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, planned response, that sounds- is it like"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7978195037990214, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This time was not compre, not compo, was planned response. I tried to use the words from Scribo but then when the teacher gave me the feedback, she said some of the grammar was wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, planned response, that sounds- is it like"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like oral."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it’s no longer read from the paper, you have to write the response and then you say to the teacher within 2 minutes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Well obviously the CDAC program is not just about the Scribo, it’s all the other things that your teacher does with you guys as well, so maybe you help me understand what the cher does. The cher in CDAC, how is he same or different from the cher back in school?\n\nIs there any difference in the way he teach? And which one is more helpful for you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9975772264433571, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like oral."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it’s no longer read from the paper, you have to write the response and then you say to the teacher within 2 minutes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Well obviously the CDAC program is not just about the Scribo, it’s all the other things that your teacher does with you guys as well, so maybe you help me understand what the cher does. The cher in CDAC, how is he same or different from the cher back in school?\n\nIs there any difference in the way he teach? And which one is more helpful for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cher teach more fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which cher? The CDAC cher. Okay, so he teach more fun. Can you describe to me when you say “more fun”?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.21953025160373, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it’s no longer read from the paper, you have to write the response and then you say to the teacher within 2 minutes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Well obviously the CDAC program is not just about the Scribo, it’s all the other things that your teacher does with you guys as well, so maybe you help me understand what the cher does. The cher in CDAC, how is he same or different from the cher back in school?\n\nIs there any difference in the way he teach? And which one is more helpful for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cher teach more fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which cher? The CDAC cher. Okay, so he teach more fun. Can you describe to me when you say “more fun”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because my English cher from my school, the only thing she does is scold the class and then ask us to stand outside and stuff. When you are absent, because for me I was absent quite recently because of flu, I didn’t have the worksheet and she just asked me to stand outside.\n\nAnd she just scolded me. At least I have the decency to take out something to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh dear. So when you say “more fun”, what does he do that was fun?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.4661447240041445, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cher teach more fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which cher? The CDAC cher. Okay, so he teach more fun. Can you describe to me when you say “more fun”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because my English cher from my school, the only thing she does is scold the class and then ask us to stand outside and stuff. When you are absent, because for me I was absent quite recently because of flu, I didn’t have the worksheet and she just asked me to stand outside.\n\nAnd she just scolded me. At least I have the decency to take out something to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh dear. So when you say “more fun”, what does he do that was fun?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No scold."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay he doesn’t scold, so that’s a positive. Anything else that he does which is not...you know?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6290496933379384, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because my English cher from my school, the only thing she does is scold the class and then ask us to stand outside and stuff. When you are absent, because for me I was absent quite recently because of flu, I didn’t have the worksheet and she just asked me to stand outside.\n\nAnd she just scolded me. At least I have the decency to take out something to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh dear. So when you say “more fun”, what does he do that was fun?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No scold."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay he doesn’t scold, so that’s a positive. Anything else that he does which is not...you know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Play Kahoot. My English teacher don’t do that at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Raymond? Comparing cher here and comparing cher back in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8100552148199314, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No scold."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay he doesn’t scold, so that’s a positive. Anything else that he does which is not...you know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Play Kahoot. My English teacher don’t do that at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Raymond? Comparing cher here and comparing cher back in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think similar but then this cher is more friendly and the school cher is a bit more strict. But both are friendly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, both are friendly but comparatively. What are the things that is helpful apart from friendly and not friendly? What does he do that is helpful for English?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.011172460911035, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Play Kahoot. My English teacher don’t do that at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Raymond? Comparing cher here and comparing cher back in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think similar but then this cher is more friendly and the school cher is a bit more strict. But both are friendly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, both are friendly but comparatively. What are the things that is helpful apart from friendly and not friendly? What does he do that is helpful for English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He help me if I need help."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you Raymond. What about Ricky, how? Comparing?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.012413845456705432, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think similar but then this cher is more friendly and the school cher is a bit more strict. But both are friendly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, both are friendly but comparatively. What are the things that is helpful apart from friendly and not friendly? What does he do that is helpful for English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He help me if I need help."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you Raymond. What about Ricky, how? Comparing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The CDAC slightly better since it uses technology to do stuff. Whereas the school use last year test paper- they take little bit by little bit from all the past year and put it into one together and teach us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so is that helpful?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.01379316161856159, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He help me if I need help."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you Raymond. What about Ricky, how? Comparing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The CDAC slightly better since it uses technology to do stuff. Whereas the school use last year test paper- they take little bit by little bit from all the past year and put it into one together and teach us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so is that helpful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay lah. Because after a while you’ll get used to it and then it’s not that fun anymore. That’s why [here] more fun because get to do this AI and show suggestions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So school is test after test. What is it that you enjoy about the AI? I thought just now you said it gives rubbish, why is the use of AI better than what is happening in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.01702859459081678, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The CDAC slightly better since it uses technology to do stuff. Whereas the school use last year test paper- they take little bit by little bit from all the past year and put it into one together and teach us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so is that helpful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay lah. Because after a while you’ll get used to it and then it’s not that fun anymore. That’s why [here] more fun because get to do this AI and show suggestions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So school is test after test. What is it that you enjoy about the AI? I thought just now you said it gives rubbish, why is the use of AI better than what is happening in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s more fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s more fun, can describe to me more fun? I understand it’s making use of Kahoot, but how is it more fun? Just by the use of Scribo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.021022956284958986, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay lah. Because after a while you’ll get used to it and then it’s not that fun anymore. That’s why [here] more fun because get to do this AI and show suggestions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So school is test after test. What is it that you enjoy about the AI? I thought just now you said it gives rubbish, why is the use of AI better than what is happening in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s more fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s more fun, can describe to me more fun? I understand it’s making use of Kahoot, but how is it more fun? Just by the use of Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we get to read the other people...compo writing. We get to leave comments.\n\nLike peer review."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay, so you enjoy peer review?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.023358840316621096, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s more fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s more fun, can describe to me more fun? I understand it’s making use of Kahoot, but how is it more fun? Just by the use of Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we get to read the other people...compo writing. We get to leave comments.\n\nLike peer review."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay, so you enjoy peer review?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very helpful.\n\nYeah because the cher here will give us a lot of pointers, like what to tell them. Like how to improve the whole thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so that’s a good point because sometimes when students are asked to give comments, they will say “what?” but here you’re actually given pointers as to what you should be saying"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.025954267018467883, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we get to read the other people...compo writing. We get to leave comments.\n\nLike peer review."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay, so you enjoy peer review?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very helpful.\n\nYeah because the cher here will give us a lot of pointers, like what to tell them. Like how to improve the whole thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so that’s a good point because sometimes when students are asked to give comments, they will say “what?” but here you’re actually given pointers as to what you should be saying"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah he give us a piece of paper, and then like “here are the 9 pointers, you can ask them ‘what you’re trying to do’”, ask them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so I noticed you jumped in, that means you really benefited from the peer review?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:106", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.028838074464964315, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very helpful.\n\nYeah because the cher here will give us a lot of pointers, like what to tell them. Like how to improve the whole thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so that’s a good point because sometimes when students are asked to give comments, they will say “what?” but here you’re actually given pointers as to what you should be saying"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah he give us a piece of paper, and then like “here are the 9 pointers, you can ask them ‘what you’re trying to do’”, ask them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so I noticed you jumped in, that means you really benefited from the peer review?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Somewhat helpful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, helpful to somewhat helpful. So what was it helpful, in terms of content, in terms of grammar, in terms of what?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.03204230496107146, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah he give us a piece of paper, and then like “here are the 9 pointers, you can ask them ‘what you’re trying to do’”, ask them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so I noticed you jumped in, that means you really benefited from the peer review?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Somewhat helpful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, helpful to somewhat helpful. So what was it helpful, in terms of content, in terms of grammar, in terms of what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think everything, because example like you read yours, [inaudible] essay, you do not know what to do so the teacher comes in and help you. So you do your own essay.\n\nSo a peer review is like asking a peer person to read the essay that you’ve written, and then there will be a question then asking yourself do you understand the essay that your friend written. So if they do not understand, you can just say that some part you don’t understand this and that,\n\nThen you might say this is their spelling mistakes, grammar mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you’re mentioning it as the person giving the feedback, and you find that helpful for yourself?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.035602561067857176, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Somewhat helpful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, helpful to somewhat helpful. So what was it helpful, in terms of content, in terms of grammar, in terms of what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think everything, because example like you read yours, [inaudible] essay, you do not know what to do so the teacher comes in and help you. So you do your own essay.\n\nSo a peer review is like asking a peer person to read the essay that you’ve written, and then there will be a question then asking yourself do you understand the essay that your friend written. So if they do not understand, you can just say that some part you don’t understand this and that,\n\nThen you might say this is their spelling mistakes, grammar mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you’re mentioning it as the person giving the feedback, and you find that helpful for yourself?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah helpful for yourself because he can understand what went wrong, so then you can improve from the mistakes that you’ve done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so by telling him his mistakes that helps you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.04883753232902219, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think everything, because example like you read yours, [inaudible] essay, you do not know what to do so the teacher comes in and help you. So you do your own essay.\n\nSo a peer review is like asking a peer person to read the essay that you’ve written, and then there will be a question then asking yourself do you understand the essay that your friend written. So if they do not understand, you can just say that some part you don’t understand this and that,\n\nThen you might say this is their spelling mistakes, grammar mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you’re mentioning it as the person giving the feedback, and you find that helpful for yourself?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah helpful for yourself because he can understand what went wrong, so then you can improve from the mistakes that you’ve done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so by telling him his mistakes that helps you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No like him telling me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh he telling you, so when he tells you. But teacher can also tell you what, Scribo can also tell you."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.05426392481002465, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah helpful for yourself because he can understand what went wrong, so then you can improve from the mistakes that you’ve done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so by telling him his mistakes that helps you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No like him telling me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh he telling you, so when he tells you. But teacher can also tell you what, Scribo can also tell you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean teachers and friends can give me peer reviews, but I find that a friend giving you review is slightly better.\n\nLike it makes you want to remember your mistake.\n\nIt’s slightly better than the teacher giving you a review."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s not that I disagree with you, I’m trying to understand. So if your friend gives you that comment, you’re more likely to act on it than what the teacher tells you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.06029324978891627, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No like him telling me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh he telling you, so when he tells you. But teacher can also tell you what, Scribo can also tell you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean teachers and friends can give me peer reviews, but I find that a friend giving you review is slightly better.\n\nLike it makes you want to remember your mistake.\n\nIt’s slightly better than the teacher giving you a review."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s not that I disagree with you, I’m trying to understand. So if your friend gives you that comment, you’re more likely to act on it than what the teacher tells you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Depends."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but it’s just that generally y’all prefer if your friend is the one giving you feedback."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.06699249976546252, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean teachers and friends can give me peer reviews, but I find that a friend giving you review is slightly better.\n\nLike it makes you want to remember your mistake.\n\nIt’s slightly better than the teacher giving you a review."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s not that I disagree with you, I’m trying to understand. So if your friend gives you that comment, you’re more likely to act on it than what the teacher tells you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Depends."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but it’s just that generally y’all prefer if your friend is the one giving you feedback."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah because it’s like not a lot of pressure. If the teacher tell you “oh you can improve on this” you feel a lot of pressure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So that’s exactly what I needed to understand. But if Scribo tells you that’s even less pressure right?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07443611085051391, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Depends."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but it’s just that generally y’all prefer if your friend is the one giving you feedback."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah because it’s like not a lot of pressure. If the teacher tell you “oh you can improve on this” you feel a lot of pressure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So that’s exactly what I needed to understand. But if Scribo tells you that’s even less pressure right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah but sometimes Scribo gives the wrong suggestions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. Okay, so that is very helpful for me to understand. What else has the cher here done that was helpful apart from peer review? What about all those- I know that they give a lot of resources, watch videos, then they give y’all the helping words and all that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0918964331487826, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah because it’s like not a lot of pressure. If the teacher tell you “oh you can improve on this” you feel a lot of pressure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So that’s exactly what I needed to understand. But if Scribo tells you that’s even less pressure right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah but sometimes Scribo gives the wrong suggestions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. Okay, so that is very helpful for me to understand. What else has the cher here done that was helpful apart from peer review? What about all those- I know that they give a lot of resources, watch videos, then they give y’all the helping words and all that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t really use the helping words at Scribo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what about y’all, Raymond and the rest? The gentlemen? Do y’all use the resources that’s given? Helping words or whatever structure?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.11345238660343529, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah but sometimes Scribo gives the wrong suggestions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. Okay, so that is very helpful for me to understand. What else has the cher here done that was helpful apart from peer review? What about all those- I know that they give a lot of resources, watch videos, then they give y’all the helping words and all that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t really use the helping words at Scribo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what about y’all, Raymond and the rest? The gentlemen? Do y’all use the resources that’s given? Helping words or whatever structure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Somewhat.\n\nYeah somewhat [inaudible]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’m still trying to understand the somewhat. Somewhat meaning a little bit?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1400646748190559, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t really use the helping words at Scribo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what about y’all, Raymond and the rest? The gentlemen? Do y’all use the resources that’s given? Helping words or whatever structure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Somewhat.\n\nYeah somewhat [inaudible]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’m still trying to understand the somewhat. Somewhat meaning a little bit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah you use a little bit, then the rest you don’t want to use, or you just don’t feel like using it. Doesn’t fit into the essay-\n\nLike not suitable in the content area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, so not suitable. So y’all got give feedback to your cher or not? That it is not suitable?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.15562741646561767, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Somewhat.\n\nYeah somewhat [inaudible]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’m still trying to understand the somewhat. Somewhat meaning a little bit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah you use a little bit, then the rest you don’t want to use, or you just don’t feel like using it. Doesn’t fit into the essay-\n\nLike not suitable in the content area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, so not suitable. So y’all got give feedback to your cher or not? That it is not suitable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we write different stuff.\n\nYeah, so we have different opinions for the [inaudible] so it could really affect it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so y’all were writing an exposition right, on jobs?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:134", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.17291935162846409, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah you use a little bit, then the rest you don’t want to use, or you just don’t feel like using it. Doesn’t fit into the essay-\n\nLike not suitable in the content area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, so not suitable. So y’all got give feedback to your cher or not? That it is not suitable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we write different stuff.\n\nYeah, so we have different opinions for the [inaudible] so it could really affect it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so y’all were writing an exposition right, on jobs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was about your ball (?) What can your ball (?) do for climate change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you all have your own point of view."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.19213261292051564, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we write different stuff.\n\nYeah, so we have different opinions for the [inaudible] so it could really affect it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so y’all were writing an exposition right, on jobs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was about your ball (?) What can your ball (?) do for climate change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you all have your own point of view."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then another one was about how would you set up a class climate change for the festival thing or something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay, because that was about teens taking a stand right, something again about climate change. Wasn’t there one on jobs is it? No?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:140", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.21348068102279516, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was about your ball (?) What can your ball (?) do for climate change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you all have your own point of view."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then another one was about how would you set up a class climate change for the festival thing or something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay, because that was about teens taking a stand right, something again about climate change. Wasn’t there one on jobs is it? No?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, because “Module 2: Jobs” it says here. So I thought-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:142", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2372007566919946, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then another one was about how would you set up a class climate change for the festival thing or something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay, because that was about teens taking a stand right, something again about climate change. Wasn’t there one on jobs is it? No?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, because “Module 2: Jobs” it says here. So I thought-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think we have covered Module 2"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Y’all didn’t write a personal recount?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:144", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.26355639632443845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, because “Module 2: Jobs” it says here. So I thought-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think we have covered Module 2"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Y’all didn’t write a personal recount?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "...So it was all about the exposition, the climate change. So this is exposition writing, did y’all do exposition writing in school yet?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:146", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2928404403604872, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think we have covered Module 2"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Y’all didn’t write a personal recount?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "...So it was all about the exposition, the climate change. So this is exposition writing, did y’all do exposition writing in school yet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know what that is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so exposition is to talk about something, to elaborate on something."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:150", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4463350714227818, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know what that is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so exposition is to talk about something, to elaborate on something."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is it to elaborate your stand?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I’ve done it recently.\n\nI never, my school never.\n\nIs it argumentative writing?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Argumentative is a little bit more...it’s a branch off exposition because exposition I can make a stand without having to argue pros and cons. So like “Singapore should do this this this and this for climate change”, that’s exposition.\n\nBut if I say “the pros and cons of us doing this”, then that becomes argumentative. So I guess argumentative is a subset of exposition. So I gather Raymond you have done argumentative in school? Okay so you’ve done a form of exposition."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:152", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4959278571364242, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is it to elaborate your stand?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I’ve done it recently.\n\nI never, my school never.\n\nIs it argumentative writing?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Argumentative is a little bit more...it’s a branch off exposition because exposition I can make a stand without having to argue pros and cons. So like “Singapore should do this this this and this for climate change”, that’s exposition.\n\nBut if I say “the pros and cons of us doing this”, then that becomes argumentative. So I guess argumentative is a subset of exposition. So I gather Raymond you have done argumentative in school? Okay so you’ve done a form of exposition."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I also got do argumentative in school also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so did y’all apply what y’all learn here in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:154", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5510309523738046, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I’ve done it recently.\n\nI never, my school never.\n\nIs it argumentative writing?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Argumentative is a little bit more...it’s a branch off exposition because exposition I can make a stand without having to argue pros and cons. So like “Singapore should do this this this and this for climate change”, that’s exposition.\n\nBut if I say “the pros and cons of us doing this”, then that becomes argumentative. So I guess argumentative is a subset of exposition. So I gather Raymond you have done argumentative in school? Okay so you’ve done a form of exposition."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I also got do argumentative in school also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so did y’all apply what y’all learn here in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Somewhat. But then when I use the grammar from Scribo, when the results come in, like marginally fail."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, but structure and all that did y’all make use of what y’all learnt here?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:158", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6122566137486718, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I also got do argumentative in school also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so did y’all apply what y’all learn here in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Somewhat. But then when I use the grammar from Scribo, when the results come in, like marginally fail."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, but structure and all that did y’all make use of what y’all learnt here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I tried."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So apart from the grammar, but when you tried did it make it easier for you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:160", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6802851263874131, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Somewhat. But then when I use the grammar from Scribo, when the results come in, like marginally fail."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, but structure and all that did y’all make use of what y’all learnt here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I tried."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So apart from the grammar, but when you tried did it make it easier for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Because I have a hard time remembering what I just learnt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so this is once a week right? Yeah? Okay maybe it was very long time ago that you did it and you had [inaudible]. What about yourself? Since you’ve done-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:162", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7558723626526812, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I tried."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So apart from the grammar, but when you tried did it make it easier for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Because I have a hard time remembering what I just learnt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so this is once a week right? Yeah? Okay maybe it was very long time ago that you did it and you had [inaudible]. What about yourself? Since you’ve done-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same with Raymond. Because both of us are in the same class. We’re in the same school. It’s about whether VIA is compulsory or not. Maybe the reason why I don’t really use it from the Scribo to our school is because I just forget sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so the things you learn, you forget. Fair enough. Ricky, no, not at all?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:166", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1520688350139936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same with Raymond. Because both of us are in the same class. We’re in the same school. It’s about whether VIA is compulsory or not. Maybe the reason why I don’t really use it from the Scribo to our school is because I just forget sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so the things you learn, you forget. Fair enough. Ricky, no, not at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same thing as Ryan, I forget also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Also forget."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean we have too many things to worry so...\n\nWe have other stuff to worry about cher."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Y’all like old people like that, very busy, many things to remember and all that...\n\nOkay so let’s talk about what happens in school after your teacher gives you- she marks, gives you feedback, what happens after that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:168", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2800764833488818, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same thing as Ryan, I forget also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Also forget."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean we have too many things to worry so...\n\nWe have other stuff to worry about cher."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Y’all like old people like that, very busy, many things to remember and all that...\n\nOkay so let’s talk about what happens in school after your teacher gives you- she marks, gives you feedback, what happens after that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just take it, like when she go through the paper she either keep it for marking the correction, or she ask you to take back and that’s it.\n\nMy school doesn’t need do corrections. The teacher also don’t go through the paper. They just continue what they want to do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow so don’t need to do corrections one."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:170", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4223072037209799, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean we have too many things to worry so...\n\nWe have other stuff to worry about cher."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Y’all like old people like that, very busy, many things to remember and all that...\n\nOkay so let’s talk about what happens in school after your teacher gives you- she marks, gives you feedback, what happens after that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just take it, like when she go through the paper she either keep it for marking the correction, or she ask you to take back and that’s it.\n\nMy school doesn’t need do corrections. The teacher also don’t go through the paper. They just continue what they want to do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow so don’t need to do corrections one."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But because some of the parents also like “why never do corrections?”, then they start scolding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So because the parents ask for corrections then y’all end up doing corrections?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5803413374677553, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just take it, like when she go through the paper she either keep it for marking the correction, or she ask you to take back and that’s it.\n\nMy school doesn’t need do corrections. The teacher also don’t go through the paper. They just continue what they want to do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow so don’t need to do corrections one."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But because some of the parents also like “why never do corrections?”, then they start scolding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So because the parents ask for corrections then y’all end up doing corrections?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it’s because right, when the parents ask for corrections, then we tell them “teacher never go through, teacher never say.” Then in the end we get scolded."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so your parents scold y’all not scold the teachers."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:176", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.7559348194086168, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But because some of the parents also like “why never do corrections?”, then they start scolding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So because the parents ask for corrections then y’all end up doing corrections?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it’s because right, when the parents ask for corrections, then we tell them “teacher never go through, teacher never say.” Then in the end we get scolded."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so your parents scold y’all not scold the teachers."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then after we tell them that the teachers never tell us to do, then they call the teacher and start scolding them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so is that the same with you as well Ricky? You don’t have to do corrections?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:178", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.03694762607492, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it’s because right, when the parents ask for corrections, then we tell them “teacher never go through, teacher never say.” Then in the end we get scolded."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so your parents scold y’all not scold the teachers."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then after we tell them that the teachers never tell us to do, then they call the teacher and start scolding them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so is that the same with you as well Ricky? You don’t have to do corrections?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She give out the paper and then the next day ask us to do correction. She do on the whiteboard then we just follow her, and she explains. She explain and then she say why it’s this answer, why it’s not that answer. Then sometimes she also ask for suggestion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Suggestions of what?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:180", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1521640289721333, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then after we tell them that the teachers never tell us to do, then they call the teacher and start scolding them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so is that the same with you as well Ricky? You don’t have to do corrections?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She give out the paper and then the next day ask us to do correction. She do on the whiteboard then we just follow her, and she explains. She explain and then she say why it’s this answer, why it’s not that answer. Then sometimes she also ask for suggestion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Suggestions of what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To make the idea better.\n\nSo like example this is the answer that she gave, then she will ask if anyone has a different answer. Then someone raise up their hand because that person got it correct.\n\nA bit like [inaudible] 4 people, if the person is sitting here, the person vertically and behind and left and right must stand up. The last to stand up must answer the question, so that’s like fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool, everybody start standing and all that."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:182", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.2801822544134815, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She give out the paper and then the next day ask us to do correction. She do on the whiteboard then we just follow her, and she explains. She explain and then she say why it’s this answer, why it’s not that answer. Then sometimes she also ask for suggestion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Suggestions of what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To make the idea better.\n\nSo like example this is the answer that she gave, then she will ask if anyone has a different answer. Then someone raise up their hand because that person got it correct.\n\nA bit like [inaudible] 4 people, if the person is sitting here, the person vertically and behind and left and right must stand up. The last to stand up must answer the question, so that’s like fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool, everybody start standing and all that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it’s a fun way to engage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you...not the same school right?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:184", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4270419972770638, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To make the idea better.\n\nSo like example this is the answer that she gave, then she will ask if anyone has a different answer. Then someone raise up their hand because that person got it correct.\n\nA bit like [inaudible] 4 people, if the person is sitting here, the person vertically and behind and left and right must stand up. The last to stand up must answer the question, so that’s like fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool, everybody start standing and all that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it’s a fun way to engage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you...not the same school right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But my mother teacher did it before during Sec 2 then now she’s not my mother teacher anymore."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your mother tongue- ah okay your mother tongue teacher. So it’s just to force everybody to be engaged, not sit there and- ...talk me through, teacher gives y’all a piece of homework, y’all do it, hand it in-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:188", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5272123423173627, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it’s a fun way to engage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you...not the same school right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But my mother teacher did it before during Sec 2 then now she’s not my mother teacher anymore."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your mother tongue- ah okay your mother tongue teacher. So it’s just to force everybody to be engaged, not sit there and- ...talk me through, teacher gives y’all a piece of homework, y’all do it, hand it in-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She marks, we do corrections or you don’t, and then she either keeps it to see the corrections, or she just gives it back to you. Nothing else.\n\nThat’s all.\n\nSo you do finish already, then she write feedback. She only ask you read the feedback, she never personally find you.\n\nYeah. And then you just file inside your English file."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so how is that same or different here? Because here y’all check, y’all key it in, it checks right?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:190", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.650879434959707, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But my mother teacher did it before during Sec 2 then now she’s not my mother teacher anymore."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your mother tongue- ah okay your mother tongue teacher. So it’s just to force everybody to be engaged, not sit there and- ...talk me through, teacher gives y’all a piece of homework, y’all do it, hand it in-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She marks, we do corrections or you don’t, and then she either keeps it to see the corrections, or she just gives it back to you. Nothing else.\n\nThat’s all.\n\nSo you do finish already, then she write feedback. She only ask you read the feedback, she never personally find you.\n\nYeah. And then you just file inside your English file."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so how is that same or different here? Because here y’all check, y’all key it in, it checks right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The teacher give personal feedback.\n\nThe teacher will also give teacher feedback."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then what happens after that? Y’all also bochap ah?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:192", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1022700383744126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She marks, we do corrections or you don’t, and then she either keeps it to see the corrections, or she just gives it back to you. Nothing else.\n\nThat’s all.\n\nSo you do finish already, then she write feedback. She only ask you read the feedback, she never personally find you.\n\nYeah. And then you just file inside your English file."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so how is that same or different here? Because here y’all check, y’all key it in, it checks right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The teacher give personal feedback.\n\nThe teacher will also give teacher feedback."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then what happens after that? Y’all also bochap ah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just improve on that one.\n\nPeer feedback also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But after the peer feedback what happens? Also bochap?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2247444870826807, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The teacher give personal feedback.\n\nThe teacher will also give teacher feedback."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then what happens after that? Y’all also bochap ah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just improve on that one.\n\nPeer feedback also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But after the peer feedback what happens? Also bochap?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I mean after the teacher feedback then we do again.\n\nSo we improve it.\n\n...what the comments have said.\n\nThen we fix.\n\nIt’s like error, so if you have a error and then just fix it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so there’s at least some- you have to pay attention to the feedback that’s given to you. Y’all do redraft it as well. On your own do y’all redraft?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:200", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3608272078696453, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just improve on that one.\n\nPeer feedback also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But after the peer feedback what happens? Also bochap?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I mean after the teacher feedback then we do again.\n\nSo we improve it.\n\n...what the comments have said.\n\nThen we fix.\n\nIt’s like error, so if you have a error and then just fix it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so there’s at least some- you have to pay attention to the feedback that’s given to you. Y’all do redraft it as well. On your own do y’all redraft?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t. Personally I [inaudible]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that means the teacher gives you a topic and you just [write]?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5120302309662725, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I mean after the teacher feedback then we do again.\n\nSo we improve it.\n\n...what the comments have said.\n\nThen we fix.\n\nIt’s like error, so if you have a error and then just fix it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so there’s at least some- you have to pay attention to the feedback that’s given to you. Y’all do redraft it as well. On your own do y’all redraft?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t. Personally I [inaudible]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that means the teacher gives you a topic and you just [write]?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Bochap then do you run through Scribo and then look to what Scribo says to do a- to at least edit it for draft number 2?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.21495746069581612, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Bochap then do you run through Scribo and then look to what Scribo says to do a- to at least edit it for draft number 2?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I usually just run the grammar one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Only once?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I only run the grammar one.\n\nBecause we don’t have time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Only run the grammar one, the whole time?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.26537958110594584, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I usually just run the grammar one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Only once?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I only run the grammar one.\n\nBecause we don’t have time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Only run the grammar one, the whole time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually when we finish we only have left with 10 minutes to-\n\n5, 10 minutes left only\n\nWe type until like don’t know how to type already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very fast or a lot?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2948662012288287, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I only run the grammar one.\n\nBecause we don’t have time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Only run the grammar one, the whole time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually when we finish we only have left with 10 minutes to-\n\n5, 10 minutes left only\n\nWe type until like don’t know how to type already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very fast or a lot?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My one is like that one.\n\nFor me, I type until don’t know what to type."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what does that mean, that you...you had so much to say? Or you just-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:218", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.40448038577342754, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually when we finish we only have left with 10 minutes to-\n\n5, 10 minutes left only\n\nWe type until like don’t know how to type already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very fast or a lot?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My one is like that one.\n\nFor me, I type until don’t know what to type."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what does that mean, that you...you had so much to say? Or you just-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I say everything I want to say already, I don’t know what to say already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so that’s a good point that I want to bring up, because Scribo also counts number of words right, word count? So are y’all writing more now, or less?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:222", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.44942265085936395, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My one is like that one.\n\nFor me, I type until don’t know what to type."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what does that mean, that you...you had so much to say? Or you just-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I say everything I want to say already, I don’t know what to say already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so that’s a good point that I want to bring up, because Scribo also counts number of words right, word count? So are y’all writing more now, or less?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lesser.\n\nSame.\n\nFor me it’s more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so less, same...but it’s because you’re only 3-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.49935850095484885, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I say everything I want to say already, I don’t know what to say already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so that’s a good point that I want to bring up, because Scribo also counts number of words right, word count? So are y’all writing more now, or less?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lesser.\n\nSame.\n\nFor me it’s more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so less, same...but it’s because you’re only 3-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I write a lot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you write a lot, so- very much okay, but in your case more. Why are you writing more now?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5548427788387209, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lesser.\n\nSame.\n\nFor me it’s more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so less, same...but it’s because you’re only 3-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I write a lot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you write a lot, so- very much okay, but in your case more. Why are you writing more now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess because it’s because of the peer review and the teacher’s feedback so there’s a way to improve."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But in school are you writing more?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6164919764874677, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I write a lot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you write a lot, so- very much okay, but in your case more. Why are you writing more now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess because it’s because of the peer review and the teacher’s feedback so there’s a way to improve."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But in school are you writing more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Less, I write less, below 150 words. I don’t have any- usually I don’t have any idea on what’s going on. So when I ask the teacher then the teacher explain to me then I understand. But then in the end I still won’t get the idea. I just miss out the point and then just scoop it away."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about Ricky?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7611012055400835, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Less, I write less, below 150 words. I don’t have any- usually I don’t have any idea on what’s going on. So when I ask the teacher then the teacher explain to me then I understand. But then in the end I still won’t get the idea. I just miss out the point and then just scoop it away."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about Ricky?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "More."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Write more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Get more points."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were...but I think writing more also the whole idea of confidence. Do y’all feel that you’re more confident now?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9396311179507204, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "More."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Write more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Get more points."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were...but I think writing more also the whole idea of confidence. Do y’all feel that you’re more confident now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Less confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I hear the consistent story from Ruby that she’s less confident."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0440345755008005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Get more points."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were...but I think writing more also the whole idea of confidence. Do y’all feel that you’re more confident now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Less confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I hear the consistent story from Ruby that she’s less confident."}, {"role": "user", "content": "More.\n\nNo change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No change, more. Why no change? You have so much support here and all that."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.04892730611200043, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Less confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I hear the consistent story from Ruby that she’s less confident."}, {"role": "user", "content": "More.\n\nNo change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No change, more. Why no change? You have so much support here and all that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just don’t feel any confidence...[inaudible] because it’s just a normal essay. I mean you started doing essay like in Primary 4, Primary 5, so it’s just technically the same thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The support from Scribo and all that that’s not helping? Ricky what about you? You said more, more confident now in writing. You’re writing more?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.05436367345777825, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "More.\n\nNo change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No change, more. Why no change? You have so much support here and all that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just don’t feel any confidence...[inaudible] because it’s just a normal essay. I mean you started doing essay like in Primary 4, Primary 5, so it’s just technically the same thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The support from Scribo and all that that’s not helping? Ricky what about you? You said more, more confident now in writing. You’re writing more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you have more ideas? So the ideas come from where ah?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:246", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.11366093624645747, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just don’t feel any confidence...[inaudible] because it’s just a normal essay. I mean you started doing essay like in Primary 4, Primary 5, so it’s just technically the same thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The support from Scribo and all that that’s not helping? Ricky what about you? You said more, more confident now in writing. You’re writing more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you have more ideas? So the ideas come from where ah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My brain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sorry? Your brain? Your brain must be stimulated by something right, all of a sudden- even creative people must have been inspired by something. So was it from all the discussions in class or anything like that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:248", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.14032214351414501, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you have more ideas? So the ideas come from where ah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My brain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sorry? Your brain? Your brain must be stimulated by something right, all of a sudden- even creative people must have been inspired by something. So was it from all the discussions in class or anything like that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it could be in discussion, or we research it on the internet.\n\nLike using ChatGPT, but I don’t use already.\n\nOr you just type in- for example talking about climate change, so like “what is climate change?” then there is an article, then you just read through it.\n\nLike in school they make us read the article news, then label (?) knowledge about them like climate change.\n\nI think Scribo if you make it can like see the content, then you all can put websites that can help with the content.\n\nLike links, hyperlink.\n\nBut it’s probably very hard to code right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so actually this is a good point because part of it is also to understand how can the program be improved. So what I’m hearing from Raymond is that to inspire y’all with the areas to be-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:252", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.17323721421499383, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it could be in discussion, or we research it on the internet.\n\nLike using ChatGPT, but I don’t use already.\n\nOr you just type in- for example talking about climate change, so like “what is climate change?” then there is an article, then you just read through it.\n\nLike in school they make us read the article news, then label (?) knowledge about them like climate change.\n\nI think Scribo if you make it can like see the content, then you all can put websites that can help with the content.\n\nLike links, hyperlink.\n\nBut it’s probably very hard to code right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so actually this is a good point because part of it is also to understand how can the program be improved. So what I’m hearing from Raymond is that to inspire y’all with the areas to be-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "More idea. It’s like to help with the idea for the content.\n\nLike starting tools, for example like starting tools."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Starting tools?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like let’s say the question is “What are the ways the government can make Singapore more sustainable?”, then after we write maybe y’all can put URA link."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, for y’all to go and ownself on your own, go and"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:260", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2138731039691282, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "More idea. It’s like to help with the idea for the content.\n\nLike starting tools, for example like starting tools."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Starting tools?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like let’s say the question is “What are the ways the government can make Singapore more sustainable?”, then after we write maybe y’all can put URA link."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, for y’all to go and ownself on your own, go and"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Go and read them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yup. Actually I was under the impression that there was a lot given already but you probably want to choose your own lah?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:263", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.23763678218792023, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like let’s say the question is “What are the ways the government can make Singapore more sustainable?”, then after we write maybe y’all can put URA link."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, for y’all to go and ownself on your own, go and"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Go and read them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yup. Actually I was under the impression that there was a lot given already but you probably want to choose your own lah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah.\n\nBecause more unique."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, it could be that choose and-if it’s the same set everybody ends up writing the same thing."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:265", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.26404086909768915, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Go and read them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yup. Actually I was under the impression that there was a lot given already but you probably want to choose your own lah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah.\n\nBecause more unique."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, it could be that choose and-if it’s the same set everybody ends up writing the same thing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also a bit boring."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah it’s gonna be boring. Ruby what are some ideas for improving the program then?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:267", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.36219597955787264, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah.\n\nBecause more unique."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, it could be that choose and-if it’s the same set everybody ends up writing the same thing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also a bit boring."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah it’s gonna be boring. Ruby what are some ideas for improving the program then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe improve the intelligence of the AI? Maybe like improve the grammar issue. The bug."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah I keep hearing from you that there is a problem. You know what you can do is those that have a problem you write it down, because we have a direct- I know the person who came up with this, the people who are putting this, and I can tell them “Hey look at these areas.”\n\nBecause I remember last year when I talked to your seniors, they were so fed up that the program- because somebody wrote “a tin of sardines”, then the program-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:270", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.44715553031836125, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also a bit boring."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah it’s gonna be boring. Ruby what are some ideas for improving the program then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe improve the intelligence of the AI? Maybe like improve the grammar issue. The bug."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah I keep hearing from you that there is a problem. You know what you can do is those that have a problem you write it down, because we have a direct- I know the person who came up with this, the people who are putting this, and I can tell them “Hey look at these areas.”\n\nBecause I remember last year when I talked to your seniors, they were so fed up that the program- because somebody wrote “a tin of sardines”, then the program-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because they say they put “can” right? Yeah then after that they ask you- because you use the word too many times, then the synonym will be “tin”, like the “can”, “tin”-\n\nThen suddenly it says it’s wrong.\n\nLike they get the wrong meaning of the word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah because “can” can be also [inaudible]"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:272", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.49683947813151247, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe improve the intelligence of the AI? Maybe like improve the grammar issue. The bug."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah I keep hearing from you that there is a problem. You know what you can do is those that have a problem you write it down, because we have a direct- I know the person who came up with this, the people who are putting this, and I can tell them “Hey look at these areas.”\n\nBecause I remember last year when I talked to your seniors, they were so fed up that the program- because somebody wrote “a tin of sardines”, then the program-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because they say they put “can” right? Yeah then after that they ask you- because you use the word too many times, then the synonym will be “tin”, like the “can”, “tin”-\n\nThen suddenly it says it’s wrong.\n\nLike they get the wrong meaning of the word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah because “can” can be also [inaudible]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "“The climate can change”, then suddenly the synonym say “the climate tin change”.\n\nAnother thing about the word, like the grammar thing, let’s say you’re correct, then you want to write this word, then the word which they ask you to change is a lesser- less stronger meaning to it. Like lacks emphasis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, probably not suitable, not specific to what it is that y’all want. Thank you for all, you’re giving me feedback on this, I’ll go and tell them that. So actually-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:274", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5520438645905694, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because they say they put “can” right? Yeah then after that they ask you- because you use the word too many times, then the synonym will be “tin”, like the “can”, “tin”-\n\nThen suddenly it says it’s wrong.\n\nLike they get the wrong meaning of the word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah because “can” can be also [inaudible]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "“The climate can change”, then suddenly the synonym say “the climate tin change”.\n\nAnother thing about the word, like the grammar thing, let’s say you’re correct, then you want to write this word, then the word which they ask you to change is a lesser- less stronger meaning to it. Like lacks emphasis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, probably not suitable, not specific to what it is that y’all want. Thank you for all, you’re giving me feedback on this, I’ll go and tell them that. So actually-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if improve the thing, then maybe younger children like primary school kids can use the Scribo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah actually they are right now. You know the Sec 2s now actually on the program as well, so that’s why we need to understand more from y’all. Okay there was something I wanted to ask, and I forgot. Apart from this “tin” and “can” and all that generally do y’all understand the Scribo feedback?\n\nAre there things that they say “ I don’t understand, if I don’t understand I can’t change it.”"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:278", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6815356352969992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "“The climate can change”, then suddenly the synonym say “the climate tin change”.\n\nAnother thing about the word, like the grammar thing, let’s say you’re correct, then you want to write this word, then the word which they ask you to change is a lesser- less stronger meaning to it. Like lacks emphasis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, probably not suitable, not specific to what it is that y’all want. Thank you for all, you’re giving me feedback on this, I’ll go and tell them that. So actually-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if improve the thing, then maybe younger children like primary school kids can use the Scribo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah actually they are right now. You know the Sec 2s now actually on the program as well, so that’s why we need to understand more from y’all. Okay there was something I wanted to ask, and I forgot. Apart from this “tin” and “can” and all that generally do y’all understand the Scribo feedback?\n\nAre there things that they say “ I don’t understand, if I don’t understand I can’t change it.”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The grammar thingy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, for example? I mean sometimes were there words that they were commenting on that you all don’t understand? Like for example “sticky sentences”, last year’s group kept mentioning that."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:283", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9348911320946492, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The grammar thingy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, for example? I mean sometimes were there words that they were commenting on that you all don’t understand? Like for example “sticky sentences”, last year’s group kept mentioning that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What’s that?\n\nSynonym?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No. Synonym-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like sticky sentences like stuck together?\n\nWhen you write climate change right, they give you something you gotta do, like catastrophe. I don’t know what it’s called."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Catastrophe, yeah. So they suggested that word?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:285", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.282429536481, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What’s that?\n\nSynonym?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No. Synonym-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like sticky sentences like stuck together?\n\nWhen you write climate change right, they give you something you gotta do, like catastrophe. I don’t know what it’s called."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Catastrophe, yeah. So they suggested that word?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Something like that, like temperature. So it give like very high level, but then your sentence a bit like...then they give you damn high sentence word, like used in the university."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay so the kind of words that they-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:288", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.31381059609000017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like sticky sentences like stuck together?\n\nWhen you write climate change right, they give you something you gotta do, like catastrophe. I don’t know what it’s called."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Catastrophe, yeah. So they suggested that word?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Something like that, like temperature. So it give like very high level, but then your sentence a bit like...then they give you damn high sentence word, like used in the university."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay so the kind of words that they-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like you don’t usually see in sentences. It’s very rare.\n\nAtas.\n\nThe atas word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know atas is Malay right?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:291", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34867844010000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Something like that, like temperature. So it give like very high level, but then your sentence a bit like...then they give you damn high sentence word, like used in the university."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay so the kind of words that they-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like you don’t usually see in sentences. It’s very rare.\n\nAtas.\n\nThe atas word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know atas is Malay right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So something that only people in university-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:293", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like you don’t usually see in sentences. It’s very rare.\n\nAtas.\n\nThe atas word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know atas is Malay right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So something that only people in university-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My C I rewrite(?)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But isn’t it good to show off that you know a word that-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:297", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So something that only people in university-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My C I rewrite(?)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But isn’t it good to show off that you know a word that-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But if you don’t know the word-\n\nThen you can’t write it down during exam.\n\nIf you don’t understand the word or something then how are you supposed to use it?\n\nYeah like if you don’t understand how possible is it-\n\n[inaudible] thinking about something then they give you a hypothetically (?) I don’t know what it’s called."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I hear that it’s not just a problem with the grammar, there’s a problem with the vocabulary, and so it’s not as helpful as-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:299", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My C I rewrite(?)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But isn’t it good to show off that you know a word that-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But if you don’t know the word-\n\nThen you can’t write it down during exam.\n\nIf you don’t understand the word or something then how are you supposed to use it?\n\nYeah like if you don’t understand how possible is it-\n\n[inaudible] thinking about something then they give you a hypothetically (?) I don’t know what it’s called."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I hear that it’s not just a problem with the grammar, there’s a problem with the vocabulary, and so it’s not as helpful as-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And sometimes the sentences could be like quite annoying. Because it will pop-up again and again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so sticky sentences are like sentences that go on and on and on-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:301", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But if you don’t know the word-\n\nThen you can’t write it down during exam.\n\nIf you don’t understand the word or something then how are you supposed to use it?\n\nYeah like if you don’t understand how possible is it-\n\n[inaudible] thinking about something then they give you a hypothetically (?) I don’t know what it’s called."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I hear that it’s not just a problem with the grammar, there’s a problem with the vocabulary, and so it’s not as helpful as-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And sometimes the sentences could be like quite annoying. Because it will pop-up again and again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so sticky sentences are like sentences that go on and on and on-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Run on?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah run-on sentences because you are trying to put too many things in there so it becomes very clumsy. So it’s best to break them up and start with that, so that’s what sticky sentences is all about.\n\nPromise y’all one last question, because it’s 8.30pm and I notice y’all very tired already, and I’ll let y’all go back to your cher over there. Tell me at this point in time, what has been your most memorable experience so far in the past 5 months? Something that you remember best of the whole 5 months so far, the lessons here?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:307", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And sometimes the sentences could be like quite annoying. Because it will pop-up again and again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so sticky sentences are like sentences that go on and on and on-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Run on?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah run-on sentences because you are trying to put too many things in there so it becomes very clumsy. So it’s best to break them up and start with that, so that’s what sticky sentences is all about.\n\nPromise y’all one last question, because it’s 8.30pm and I notice y’all very tired already, and I’ll let y’all go back to your cher over there. Tell me at this point in time, what has been your most memorable experience so far in the past 5 months? Something that you remember best of the whole 5 months so far, the lessons here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it’s me figuring out how to use it.\n\nYeah same.\n\nLike the functions or- I mean it’s your first time using it so I think that’s memorable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, by the way y’all know that schools will be using Scribo at some point in time, it’s already being rolled out. They got the tender, the company that produces it so in a sense y’all are one step ahead of everybody else. It will be put into SLS, so whatever you type actually can be run through inside.\n\nSo that’s great. What was the hardest thing that you didn’t understand until oh, then you understood?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:309", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Run on?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah run-on sentences because you are trying to put too many things in there so it becomes very clumsy. So it’s best to break them up and start with that, so that’s what sticky sentences is all about.\n\nPromise y’all one last question, because it’s 8.30pm and I notice y’all very tired already, and I’ll let y’all go back to your cher over there. Tell me at this point in time, what has been your most memorable experience so far in the past 5 months? Something that you remember best of the whole 5 months so far, the lessons here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it’s me figuring out how to use it.\n\nYeah same.\n\nLike the functions or- I mean it’s your first time using it so I think that’s memorable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, by the way y’all know that schools will be using Scribo at some point in time, it’s already being rolled out. They got the tender, the company that produces it so in a sense y’all are one step ahead of everybody else. It will be put into SLS, so whatever you type actually can be run through inside.\n\nSo that’s great. What was the hardest thing that you didn’t understand until oh, then you understood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pressing the “check” so checking all your mistakes, everything just starts flowing on right side of the screen. Everything just start flowing because got mistakes. You’re kinda pressured to fix these errors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, pressured in a good way or a bad way?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:311", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it’s me figuring out how to use it.\n\nYeah same.\n\nLike the functions or- I mean it’s your first time using it so I think that’s memorable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, by the way y’all know that schools will be using Scribo at some point in time, it’s already being rolled out. They got the tender, the company that produces it so in a sense y’all are one step ahead of everybody else. It will be put into SLS, so whatever you type actually can be run through inside.\n\nSo that’s great. What was the hardest thing that you didn’t understand until oh, then you understood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pressing the “check” so checking all your mistakes, everything just starts flowing on right side of the screen. Everything just start flowing because got mistakes. You’re kinda pressured to fix these errors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, pressured in a good way or a bad way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know [inaudible], but I mean- I don’t know how but I just pressing the checking and suddenly all the errors to your right side. Could be annoying. Because you want to take one step, a bit, then suddenly all-\n\nStep-by-step.\n\nYeah step-by-step but the thing just suddenly pop up when you press the checking."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, last year’s batch what they told me was they had quite a kick out of you know, you deal with it."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:315", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pressing the “check” so checking all your mistakes, everything just starts flowing on right side of the screen. Everything just start flowing because got mistakes. You’re kinda pressured to fix these errors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, pressured in a good way or a bad way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know [inaudible], but I mean- I don’t know how but I just pressing the checking and suddenly all the errors to your right side. Could be annoying. Because you want to take one step, a bit, then suddenly all-\n\nStep-by-step.\n\nYeah step-by-step but the thing just suddenly pop up when you press the checking."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, last year’s batch what they told me was they had quite a kick out of you know, you deal with it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Each section though."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then they got quite a kick out of seeing their scores change."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:317", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know [inaudible], but I mean- I don’t know how but I just pressing the checking and suddenly all the errors to your right side. Could be annoying. Because you want to take one step, a bit, then suddenly all-\n\nStep-by-step.\n\nYeah step-by-step but the thing just suddenly pop up when you press the checking."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, last year’s batch what they told me was they had quite a kick out of you know, you deal with it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Each section though."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then they got quite a kick out of seeing their scores change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah scores can either go down or up, and there’s this one area so grammar (?), then this grammar you click on it there’s another part of it. So like number- paragraph 1, paragraph 2, paragraph 3. It’s like a sub."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you deal one at a time? Okay, so most memorable also how to make sense out of Scribo? Why was that memorable?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:321", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Each section though."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then they got quite a kick out of seeing their scores change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah scores can either go down or up, and there’s this one area so grammar (?), then this grammar you click on it there’s another part of it. So like number- paragraph 1, paragraph 2, paragraph 3. It’s like a sub."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you deal one at a time? Okay, so most memorable also how to make sense out of Scribo? Why was that memorable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because that’s the only main thing you do during class. Something that’s fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I’m still trying to figure out what “fun” means. “Fun” meaning when you can make something happen?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:323", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah scores can either go down or up, and there’s this one area so grammar (?), then this grammar you click on it there’s another part of it. So like number- paragraph 1, paragraph 2, paragraph 3. It’s like a sub."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you deal one at a time? Okay, so most memorable also how to make sense out of Scribo? Why was that memorable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because that’s the only main thing you do during class. Something that’s fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I’m still trying to figure out what “fun” means. “Fun” meaning when you can make something happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like you gotta use your pen and just write, listen in class.\n\nIt’s easier than writing,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s easier than writing and it’s more interactive?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:325", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because that’s the only main thing you do during class. Something that’s fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I’m still trying to figure out what “fun” means. “Fun” meaning when you can make something happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like you gotta use your pen and just write, listen in class.\n\nIt’s easier than writing,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s easier than writing and it’s more interactive?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it’s better than just staring at the first page.\n\nYeah because when you write right, your wrist tend to get pain and tired."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But when you say less painful it’s nothing to do with the wrist right?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:327", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like you gotta use your pen and just write, listen in class.\n\nIt’s easier than writing,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s easier than writing and it’s more interactive?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it’s better than just staring at the first page.\n\nYeah because when you write right, your wrist tend to get pain and tired."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But when you say less painful it’s nothing to do with the wrist right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Speaking from experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sort of what do you mean by speaking from experience?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:330", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah it’s better than just staring at the first page.\n\nYeah because when you write right, your wrist tend to get pain and tired."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But when you say less painful it’s nothing to do with the wrist right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Speaking from experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sort of what do you mean by speaking from experience?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s more painful to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it’s nothing to do with physical pain or painful as in 伤脑经?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:333", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Speaking from experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sort of what do you mean by speaking from experience?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s more painful to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it’s nothing to do with physical pain or painful as in 伤脑经?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both.\n\nBoth.\n\nHand tired. Hand pain.\n\nSometimes my hand pain and my head pain because sometimes when I write on paper right, then [inaudible]. Oh no.\n\nYou write, you don’t focus on writing, so when we write the teacher say go here come out here (one ear in one ear out). Because you not focusing, you writing, copying down the thing-\n\n[inaudible] Just sitting down staring at a screen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is here or in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:335", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s more painful to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it’s nothing to do with physical pain or painful as in 伤脑经?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both.\n\nBoth.\n\nHand tired. Hand pain.\n\nSometimes my hand pain and my head pain because sometimes when I write on paper right, then [inaudible]. Oh no.\n\nYou write, you don’t focus on writing, so when we write the teacher say go here come out here (one ear in one ear out). Because you not focusing, you writing, copying down the thing-\n\n[inaudible] Just sitting down staring at a screen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is here or in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "School.\n\nSchool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So teacher talks and talks but it’s like-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:337", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both.\n\nBoth.\n\nHand tired. Hand pain.\n\nSometimes my hand pain and my head pain because sometimes when I write on paper right, then [inaudible]. Oh no.\n\nYou write, you don’t focus on writing, so when we write the teacher say go here come out here (one ear in one ear out). Because you not focusing, you writing, copying down the thing-\n\n[inaudible] Just sitting down staring at a screen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is here or in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "School.\n\nSchool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So teacher talks and talks but it’s like-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s like grandmother story."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you tell me how can we make it such that the cher here doesn’t make the same mistake as the teachers? So that when he says something, it doesn’t just you know, what can help?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:344", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "School.\n\nSchool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So teacher talks and talks but it’s like-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s like grandmother story."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you tell me how can we make it such that the cher here doesn’t make the same mistake as the teachers? So that when he says something, it doesn’t just you know, what can help?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe just not like keep on talking and talking.\n\nYes.\n\nI mean example like the cher is your parent, then they scold you right, nagging at you. So-called nagging.\n\nIf they never pause in a sentence then after that I just don’t [inaudible] already.\n\nSo it’s nagging, you eventually get annoyed. Then you don’t want listen already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Obviously that’s not just this teacher that you’re talking- teachers in general."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:347", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s like grandmother story."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you tell me how can we make it such that the cher here doesn’t make the same mistake as the teachers? So that when he says something, it doesn’t just you know, what can help?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe just not like keep on talking and talking.\n\nYes.\n\nI mean example like the cher is your parent, then they scold you right, nagging at you. So-called nagging.\n\nIf they never pause in a sentence then after that I just don’t [inaudible] already.\n\nSo it’s nagging, you eventually get annoyed. Then you don’t want listen already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Obviously that’s not just this teacher that you’re talking- teachers in general."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scribo got dark mode or not? Does it have a dark mode?\n\nDark mode. Because it’s bright."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, okay that’s a good point I-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:349", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe just not like keep on talking and talking.\n\nYes.\n\nI mean example like the cher is your parent, then they scold you right, nagging at you. So-called nagging.\n\nIf they never pause in a sentence then after that I just don’t [inaudible] already.\n\nSo it’s nagging, you eventually get annoyed. Then you don’t want listen already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Obviously that’s not just this teacher that you’re talking- teachers in general."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scribo got dark mode or not? Does it have a dark mode?\n\nDark mode. Because it’s bright."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, okay that’s a good point I-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps to comfort the eye.\n\nSome people lik3 dark mode.\n\nLike maybe blue light. The screen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I could ask them, that’s a good point. Nobody has ever asked that so I’ll ask them that. Okay so any last words-she’s already going."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:355", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scribo got dark mode or not? Does it have a dark mode?\n\nDark mode. Because it’s bright."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, okay that’s a good point I-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps to comfort the eye.\n\nSome people lik3 dark mode.\n\nLike maybe blue light. The screen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I could ask them, that’s a good point. Nobody has ever asked that so I’ll ask them that. Okay so any last words-she’s already going."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My leg pain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can, not only hand pain, leg pain. Any last words about Scribo or the tuition program that you want to tell me that I didn’t ask?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00005:358", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps to comfort the eye.\n\nSome people lik3 dark mode.\n\nLike maybe blue light. The screen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I could ask them, that’s a good point. Nobody has ever asked that so I’ll ask them that. Okay so any last words-she’s already going."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My leg pain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can, not only hand pain, leg pain. Any last words about Scribo or the tuition program that you want to tell me that I didn’t ask?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe can add tutorial, how to use.\n\nYeah.\n\nBecause there’s no tutorial, and I’m still very blur."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, tutorial on how to use the-"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.947053510123006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, am an intern doctor in lira regional referral hospital?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long have you been working here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have now worked here for two months"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Two months?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I am here for one year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are here for one year?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.7189483445811184, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have now worked here for two months"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Two months?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I am here for one year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are here for one year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and so when did you qualify, when did you finish?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.465498160645687, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I am here for one year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are here for one year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and so when did you qualify, when did you finish?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I finished in 2018"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In this year?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.288749191557869, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this very year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "2018"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes 2018 may, in May 2018, that’s when I qualified from Makerere University, college of health science"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Congratulation"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Bachelor of Science in medicine and surgery"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "... did you go for the party"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6541657683976325, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes 2018 may, in May 2018, that’s when I qualified from Makerere University, college of health science"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Congratulation"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Bachelor of Science in medicine and surgery"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "... did you go for the party"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our graduation will be on January, around 20th January and everyone is invited"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And ... will be number one\n\nlaughs, ok, good to hear that and then let’s look at the demographics of the patients that you see, what are the common illness that you have treated since you came in?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.06018418710848, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Bachelor of Science in medicine and surgery"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "... did you go for the party"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our graduation will be on January, around 20th January and everyone is invited"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And ... will be number one\n\nlaughs, ok, good to hear that and then let’s look at the demographics of the patients that you see, what are the common illness that you have treated since you came in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since I came in?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes since you came in"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.511315763453867, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our graduation will be on January, around 20th January and everyone is invited"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And ... will be number one\n\nlaughs, ok, good to hear that and then let’s look at the demographics of the patients that you see, what are the common illness that you have treated since you came in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since I came in?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes since you came in"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since I came in, right now am in the main medicine ward, but I also go cross to the female medicine ward and sometimes at the emergencies, yes to look at the distribution, disease distribution, I see more of liver disease in the elderly people, liver disease is very common, hypertension, PUD also being very common but in children I have noticed RHD, RHD is one of the problem in children and sickle cells disease, those two stand out"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "These two stand out?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.3349577326590945, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Since I came in, right now am in the main medicine ward, but I also go cross to the female medicine ward and sometimes at the emergencies, yes to look at the distribution, disease distribution, I see more of liver disease in the elderly people, liver disease is very common, hypertension, PUD also being very common but in children I have noticed RHD, RHD is one of the problem in children and sickle cells disease, those two stand out"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "These two stand out?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in children although sickle cells is more but we have seen common cases of RHD in children, actually on my very first day here, I got a child with RHD and I was running around to see how to get help then I had to do echo, I had to do what..., those things are not done here at the hospital, then I noticed there was a project here that was doing that and that helped"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok good"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But subsequently I kept getting in touch, but common among children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other age group do you see with them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1295774477272764, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But subsequently I kept getting in touch, but common among children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other age group do you see with them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD in early adulthood, I have seen it in 22, twenties early, I have not seen it in the elderly, middle age adults, I have not yet seen it there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not yet seen it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.477308275252529, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD in early adulthood, I have seen it in 22, twenties early, I have not seen it in the elderly, middle age adults, I have not yet seen it there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not yet seen it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, before we get there but we are just on track ok so let’s talk abit about the, your RHD training and management, have you received any training during school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.065398986819889, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In internal medicine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We went through many cardiac conditions like RHD was one of the Topics, that we came across, also during the affluent prayers, we would actually come across patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we would be taken through but not as a special course or a special training but the knowledge I was using was basically what I came with at school and then with the help of my supervisors around but am not trained in the disease in particular"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok so does that mean that after your graduation, you have not yet had any training?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1075431917968306, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "After my graduation of course I haven’t"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not yet..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had a period of about 5 months where we were just waiting for internship, you get it, in that period, there were trainings with the ministry of health which I went through but the one I went through was something to do with haemorrhagic fever, Ebola management, Marburg and the rest, those were our training CBC infections control"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not had any training on RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8364730762923833, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not had any training on RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But on this, no..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then in a day, how many RHD patients do you normally, typically see?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.625275402830102, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then in a day, how many RHD patients do you normally, typically see?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If am to say in a day, on average I can say maybe one"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes ok so where I am, I can see only one, so in a week, you could say maybe 3 also"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then are they usually outpatient or inpatients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.475648645469262, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes ok so where I am, I can see only one, so in a week, you could say maybe 3 also"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then are they usually outpatient or inpatients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They usually come as referrals from health centers, you know if their symptoms worsen, they have tempted to be treated and they fail"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hmm"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But when they reach here, we actually realise they don’t come with the diagnosis of RHD, they come, they come with you know somehow being managed with malaria, malaria but not the coughing, respiratory tract infections, they come when they are badly off, doing badly so they come here, so it’s usually from here that we notice, we are dealing with RHD here.I have not yet received a patient who has come with RHD as a diagnosis from down"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not seen?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.972942939410291, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They usually come as referrals from health centers, you know if their symptoms worsen, they have tempted to be treated and they fail"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hmm"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But when they reach here, we actually realise they don’t come with the diagnosis of RHD, they come, they come with you know somehow being managed with malaria, malaria but not the coughing, respiratory tract infections, they come when they are badly off, doing badly so they come here, so it’s usually from here that we notice, we are dealing with RHD here.I have not yet received a patient who has come with RHD as a diagnosis from down"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not seen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From the health centers, usually we discover from here that we are dealing with RHD"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are the normal, usually which symptoms do they present to you when they come?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.525492154900323, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But when they reach here, we actually realise they don’t come with the diagnosis of RHD, they come, they come with you know somehow being managed with malaria, malaria but not the coughing, respiratory tract infections, they come when they are badly off, doing badly so they come here, so it’s usually from here that we notice, we are dealing with RHD here.I have not yet received a patient who has come with RHD as a diagnosis from down"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not seen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From the health centers, usually we discover from here that we are dealing with RHD"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are the normal, usually which symptoms do they present to you when they come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They usually present with high fever, you find they usually come with high fever, tachacicadic, you know breathless, some of them are in failure already, heart failure already with difficulties in breathing, not so much coughing but with difficulties in breathing, you know with heart failure with its symptoms, difficulties with breathing and some cough there but yes, also some of them with articulation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then let’s look at what you have been taught, what is your understanding of this disease? RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.028324616555914, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From the health centers, usually we discover from here that we are dealing with RHD"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are the normal, usually which symptoms do they present to you when they come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They usually present with high fever, you find they usually come with high fever, tachacicadic, you know breathless, some of them are in failure already, heart failure already with difficulties in breathing, not so much coughing but with difficulties in breathing, you know with heart failure with its symptoms, difficulties with breathing and some cough there but yes, also some of them with articulation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then let’s look at what you have been taught, what is your understanding of this disease? RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From school, my understanding right from class is that RHD is haematological related and to begin with what professor used to tease us was that this problem is the problem of the third world countries, yes, it’s the disease of the poor, they get respiratory tract infection and they may get neglected or don’t treat it aggressively and they end up getting the problem, the problem comes from what we call a genetic mimicry, the organisms usually streptococcal, that has the ability to induce the immune activity in the body, that immunological activity may result into the formation of anti-bodies against the organism, however these anti bodies or the organisms, they target, these targets on the organism may resemble some structures of the body system, one among them is the valves, could be the kidney, can be the joints, so at the end of the day, these anti bodies end up attacking both the organism and the body structure, therefore leading to RHD,with all its symptoms"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then could you be, are you aware of the link between the sore throat and RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.587027351728794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They usually present with high fever, you find they usually come with high fever, tachacicadic, you know breathless, some of them are in failure already, heart failure already with difficulties in breathing, not so much coughing but with difficulties in breathing, you know with heart failure with its symptoms, difficulties with breathing and some cough there but yes, also some of them with articulation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then let’s look at what you have been taught, what is your understanding of this disease? RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From school, my understanding right from class is that RHD is haematological related and to begin with what professor used to tease us was that this problem is the problem of the third world countries, yes, it’s the disease of the poor, they get respiratory tract infection and they may get neglected or don’t treat it aggressively and they end up getting the problem, the problem comes from what we call a genetic mimicry, the organisms usually streptococcal, that has the ability to induce the immune activity in the body, that immunological activity may result into the formation of anti-bodies against the organism, however these anti bodies or the organisms, they target, these targets on the organism may resemble some structures of the body system, one among them is the valves, could be the kidney, can be the joints, so at the end of the day, these anti bodies end up attacking both the organism and the body structure, therefore leading to RHD,with all its symptoms"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then could you be, are you aware of the link between the sore throat and RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, usually because the streptococcal is always along the respiratory tract, so it starts with the throat, it starts with the throat, if not treated well with proper anti biotics, it can translocate into the circulation, then from the circulation the issue now starts in the immunological relations"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you told about how to prevent RHD"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.6629967305293745, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, usually because the streptococcal is always along the respiratory tract, so it starts with the throat, it starts with the throat, if not treated well with proper anti biotics, it can translocate into the circulation, then from the circulation the issue now starts in the immunological relations"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you told about how to prevent RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we got to know that sore throat should not be treated, you know reluctantly, it must be treated aggressively with proper anti biotics but given the system oh...of course we would, we would with a sore throat, and we would think of sore throat, we would do microbiology of the cell but usually treat our patients systematically here die to exhaust irritations, we can do the microbiology test to find out which organism exactly we are dealing with, then we must prefer ah... broad spectrum anti biotics could be good like broad spectrum respects anti biotics say amoxixaslin clastic as to be able to cover maybe as our first line but like I told you in my first statement, it’s the disease of the poor, in most cases these drugs must be expensive, a little expensive and people just end up with the local herbs and they think it can go with that, then they end up being a problem"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know of any local herbs that people around here normally use for sore throat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here they normally tell me they boil, they boil lemon leaves, then squeeze in it also the lemon,make some coco just to try and sooth the sore throat and cough of course I don’t know if it works for them but it just seems to me as if they end up with us to the hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you usually get patients coming in with sore throat? Is it a common tradition that is here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.292218589477082, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we got to know that sore throat should not be treated, you know reluctantly, it must be treated aggressively with proper anti biotics but given the system oh...of course we would, we would with a sore throat, and we would think of sore throat, we would do microbiology of the cell but usually treat our patients systematically here die to exhaust irritations, we can do the microbiology test to find out which organism exactly we are dealing with, then we must prefer ah... broad spectrum anti biotics could be good like broad spectrum respects anti biotics say amoxixaslin clastic as to be able to cover maybe as our first line but like I told you in my first statement, it’s the disease of the poor, in most cases these drugs must be expensive, a little expensive and people just end up with the local herbs and they think it can go with that, then they end up being a problem"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know of any local herbs that people around here normally use for sore throat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here they normally tell me they boil, they boil lemon leaves, then squeeze in it also the lemon,make some coco just to try and sooth the sore throat and cough of course I don’t know if it works for them but it just seems to me as if they end up with us to the hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you usually get patients coming in with sore throat? Is it a common tradition that is here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not, it’s not usually for patients to come complaining that they have a sore throat, they come when maybe I don’t know maybe because this is a regional referral hospital, they become when maybe its pneumonia, they are coughing badly they come with difficulties in breathing and they have tried with their cough elsewhere, it has progressed away from sore throat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why that sore throat is is not taken like seriously?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 6.9913539883078695, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here they normally tell me they boil, they boil lemon leaves, then squeeze in it also the lemon,make some coco just to try and sooth the sore throat and cough of course I don’t know if it works for them but it just seems to me as if they end up with us to the hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you usually get patients coming in with sore throat? Is it a common tradition that is here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not, it’s not usually for patients to come complaining that they have a sore throat, they come when maybe I don’t know maybe because this is a regional referral hospital, they become when maybe its pneumonia, they are coughing badly they come with difficulties in breathing and they have tried with their cough elsewhere, it has progressed away from sore throat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why that sore throat is is not taken like seriously?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One, I think people have many problems that they try to ignore health conditions, they would want to try and pay attention to other things, they start paying attention to health situations when now the condition is worse but usually I think, I think according to their responses because usually we get patients when they are very sick, they come here when they are really very sick and when you ask them, they tell you how they have spent a long time home without getting help .one of it is not attaching much care or concerns to health but also the issues of economic problems but in most cases when you ask them, they tell you they come from very distant places, the distance from where are residence to the hospital usually it involves costs to transport themselves, am sure it’s one of the problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The issue u know going to the health Center and you don’t get the drugs, these drugs they rarely just buy, sometimes they don’t get the drugs also available in the hospital day and they get reluctant to go to the health Center or to seek care but if you don’t have the money and you know you are going to hospital and what you need is not there, sometimes you end up trying local herbs, they delay to seek care\n\nOk and then talking about drugs, if you look at this facility here in the hospital, how are stocks?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.648281915541109, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now I think it start with how to empowering people economically would be the way to go but of course it’s a long, long way to go but in like a short term, arrangement maybe you would encourage that the hospital be stocked with all the necessary drugs because they are not even very expensive, somehow in most cases like if you want a steriat, usually like cortisol steriat, they are not usually very expensive but you find this people are already broke, they don’t have money to buy so we can stock them ourselves, vendecine of course is there, vendecine penicillin but it’s also out of stock in most cases, it’s also not expensive out there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, thank you. How, during your school years were you taught about the treatment option for RHD, of course I have heard you talking about the drugs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes the different options?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You see we were taught ,of course we answered those questions, we know the root cause now, we want to attack the bacteria, of course now in the heart the bacteria is not there, it’s now the anti-bodies against so we give vendecine peroxylaxis monthly dozes of vendecine depending on the ages, of course now we treat the symptoms that are coming with these anti bodies deposited, yes we can deal with the bacterial infections with anti-biotic broad spectrum preferably with penicillin best interactors and then we deal with the inflammations caused by the anti-bodies. we tend to, since we know there is anti-body production, we want to supress that process so we use cortisol steriat to suppress them and give ASAS for inflammation and the fevers we try to bring it down to respond and if there is candidiasis, we go and give them, if there is a heart failure, we give them heart failure arrangement inter blockers Castrol blockers, so that we try and lower the pressure and also reduce the heart rate"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, thank you, so what is your understanding about the long term prognosis of RHD? , looking in your own understanding"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.747986166723057, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My own understanding is that if managed properly and effectively progress is good, prognosis is good, we can reverse the articulation, we keep giving them this anti- inflammatory, the cortisol steriat also for some times, also as we do physio therapy, they will always get up and with our monthly Benzathine Prophylaxis, we try and prevent the organisms from continuing to grow. yes they probably, the Benzathine penicillin, yeah, the prognosis is not very bad if managed early, if the heart, if the heart is not badly affected but of course if we delay and the valves are now badly damaged the heart is badly damaged, then the prognosis might not be good because it might involve that you do valve replacement or transplant which is not a good thing, it depends on when you come in and how far the extent of the damage to the heart valves"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, wonderful! Then let’s talk about the encounters with RHD patients, do you remember the last patient you worked on and how long you are..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right now I still have one, I think I have two, Right now on the ward, you saw it’s still a fresh thing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I expect anytime"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, give us a picture of how these patients presented and ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.497762407470063, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right now I still have one, I think I have two, Right now on the ward, you saw it’s still a fresh thing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I expect anytime"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, give us a picture of how these patients presented and ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These patients presented at emergency department with a very high fever, uncontrollable cough, and cough with joint pains, generally weak so at the emergency, the person who was there made a diagnosis of pneumonia and the patient was actually referred with pneumonia. So being on the ward, I received the patient and he is actually 15 years old and they were coughing, they were breathless and I immediately first put him on oxygen, then when I started my clinical exams. I saw this patient was remitting a joint criteria for rheumatic diagnosis of RHD, they already had ah...hydratory hytheritis with even spinal deformities, very high fever, the cicardia, the heart murmurs were already there, so I called for help as I told you, echo here, we don’t have as a hospital, so I came, asked for help from the project. Then we did the echo, first we did a throat swap, the rapid test was positive, so I knew I was on the right track, echo was also significant yeah so then we sat up together, we started the treatment, and the patient started improving. Now he has improved, what he is left with is the physio therapy not yet, what am left with is the physio therapy then I discharge him"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, good to hear that. then, so you said you mostly see children with RHD"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3686727125789617, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Mostly children like between 10, ages between 10 and 20"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and 20?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have seen most of them. I think there was only one who was less than 10 years because night duty is always long but mostly between 10, I can recall 3 with 15 years, 14, and 15"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then could you be knowing if they were in school or out of school children"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5207474584210685, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have seen most of them. I think there was only one who was less than 10 years because night duty is always long but mostly between 10, I can recall 3 with 15 years, 14, and 15"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then could you be knowing if they were in school or out of school children"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are in school children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are in school children?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6897193982456316, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then could you be knowing if they were in school or out of school children"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are in school children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are in school children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are actually in school children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then do you think they know the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and RHD"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8774659980507016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are in school children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are in school children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are actually in school children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then do you think they know the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is where there is a problem, there is so much knowledge gap in terms of health, they don’t know, exactly they don’t know at all, When you ask them, have you ever suffered a sore throat? They will admit it to you, did you treat, no it went, it went but now finally am getting cough again, yes but there are knowledge gaps. It’s somehow the knowledge gap, they don’t have that knowledge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, and for them, what symptoms do they describe to you when they come?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.086073331167446, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are actually in school children"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then do you think they know the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is where there is a problem, there is so much knowledge gap in terms of health, they don’t know, exactly they don’t know at all, When you ask them, have you ever suffered a sore throat? They will admit it to you, did you treat, no it went, it went but now finally am getting cough again, yes but there are knowledge gaps. It’s somehow the knowledge gap, they don’t have that knowledge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, and for them, what symptoms do they describe to you when they come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For them the symptoms they describe to me is the joint pain, general body pain, they say general body pain and stiffness in the body, stiffness in the body with swellings, yes and cough of course fever is getting high, they try with anti biotics and then they go down and being breathless, failure to breathe"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So generally are they following their follow up and adherence to the things you tell them to do and the drug taking?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.317859256852718, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is where there is a problem, there is so much knowledge gap in terms of health, they don’t know, exactly they don’t know at all, When you ask them, have you ever suffered a sore throat? They will admit it to you, did you treat, no it went, it went but now finally am getting cough again, yes but there are knowledge gaps. It’s somehow the knowledge gap, they don’t have that knowledge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, and for them, what symptoms do they describe to you when they come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For them the symptoms they describe to me is the joint pain, general body pain, they say general body pain and stiffness in the body, stiffness in the body with swellings, yes and cough of course fever is getting high, they try with anti biotics and then they go down and being breathless, failure to breathe"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So generally are they following their follow up and adherence to the things you tell them to do and the drug taking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The follow up according to me I think its zero, there is zero follow up according to me, ok as me , I have never tried to follow up because, we need the scope of plans, so and I don’t know whether there is follow up elsewhere"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do they adhere when you talk them"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4642880631696868, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For them the symptoms they describe to me is the joint pain, general body pain, they say general body pain and stiffness in the body, stiffness in the body with swellings, yes and cough of course fever is getting high, they try with anti biotics and then they go down and being breathless, failure to breathe"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So generally are they following their follow up and adherence to the things you tell them to do and the drug taking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The follow up according to me I think its zero, there is zero follow up according to me, ok as me , I have never tried to follow up because, we need the scope of plans, so and I don’t know whether there is follow up elsewhere"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do they adhere when you talk them"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then adherence, we try and encourage them at the discharge to try and adhere but I can’t ensure, I can’t know what happens when they go home, especially that these drugs has to be bought, so I don’t know, you write but I don’t know whether they buy it but I think they buy it because I have no seen re-admission yet in this period of two months, I haven’t seen that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not seen any re-admission of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6269867368552076, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The follow up according to me I think its zero, there is zero follow up according to me, ok as me , I have never tried to follow up because, we need the scope of plans, so and I don’t know whether there is follow up elsewhere"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do they adhere when you talk them"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then adherence, we try and encourage them at the discharge to try and adhere but I can’t ensure, I can’t know what happens when they go home, especially that these drugs has to be bought, so I don’t know, you write but I don’t know whether they buy it but I think they buy it because I have no seen re-admission yet in this period of two months, I haven’t seen that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not seen any re-admission of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what sorts of barriers do they commonly state, barriers to getting care that they need, what do you think stops them from accessing the care"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8077630409502305, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then adherence, we try and encourage them at the discharge to try and adhere but I can’t ensure, I can’t know what happens when they go home, especially that these drugs has to be bought, so I don’t know, you write but I don’t know whether they buy it but I think they buy it because I have no seen re-admission yet in this period of two months, I haven’t seen that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not seen any re-admission of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what sorts of barriers do they commonly state, barriers to getting care that they need, what do you think stops them from accessing the care"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The barriers start with the economic status, distance from where they stay to the facilities and then you know poor economic status, funds to put into transport, buying drugs and the availability of drugs in those centers is another problem. In those centre they have very, very limited and they get out of their stocking"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then when you are discharging, am sure there are certain things you tell them to do or not to do"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0086256010558117, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what sorts of barriers do they commonly state, barriers to getting care that they need, what do you think stops them from accessing the care"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The barriers start with the economic status, distance from where they stay to the facilities and then you know poor economic status, funds to put into transport, buying drugs and the availability of drugs in those centers is another problem. In those centre they have very, very limited and they get out of their stocking"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then when you are discharging, am sure there are certain things you tell them to do or not to do"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right, do you think they obey them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2318062233953464, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The barriers start with the economic status, distance from where they stay to the facilities and then you know poor economic status, funds to put into transport, buying drugs and the availability of drugs in those centers is another problem. In those centre they have very, very limited and they get out of their stocking"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then when you are discharging, am sure there are certain things you tell them to do or not to do"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right, do you think they obey them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They rarely, they are but you see laughs. I can talk to you, most of the patients have been found to be patients of the very low class status. Even their ability to comprehend the information is very little, their ability, their capacity to understanding what you are talking about is very, very limited because before you choose, and you decide to discharge them. They want to go home, yes I don’t but you try to explain to them because we want since the ailment comes with articulation problems, it requires continuous you know physio therapy, rest and prophylaxis treatment, yes, continuous treatment of any other symptoms that comes like I told you the knowledge gaps like their ability to understand. I have not tested it, I have not gone to do research to find out whether they adhere to some of these but in my own thinking, in my opinion, I think they neglect, they don’t get, they don’t find time to pay attention towards this disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you give them appointments ah... I don’t know if you have given some to come back maybe you have been here for two months?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3686735815503845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right, do you think they obey them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They rarely, they are but you see laughs. I can talk to you, most of the patients have been found to be patients of the very low class status. Even their ability to comprehend the information is very little, their ability, their capacity to understanding what you are talking about is very, very limited because before you choose, and you decide to discharge them. They want to go home, yes I don’t but you try to explain to them because we want since the ailment comes with articulation problems, it requires continuous you know physio therapy, rest and prophylaxis treatment, yes, continuous treatment of any other symptoms that comes like I told you the knowledge gaps like their ability to understand. I have not tested it, I have not gone to do research to find out whether they adhere to some of these but in my own thinking, in my opinion, I think they neglect, they don’t get, they don’t find time to pay attention towards this disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you give them appointments ah... I don’t know if you have given some to come back maybe you have been here for two months?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, 2 months"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "2 months? Have you had to give any to go back for appointment?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5207484239448716, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They rarely, they are but you see laughs. I can talk to you, most of the patients have been found to be patients of the very low class status. Even their ability to comprehend the information is very little, their ability, their capacity to understanding what you are talking about is very, very limited because before you choose, and you decide to discharge them. They want to go home, yes I don’t but you try to explain to them because we want since the ailment comes with articulation problems, it requires continuous you know physio therapy, rest and prophylaxis treatment, yes, continuous treatment of any other symptoms that comes like I told you the knowledge gaps like their ability to understand. I have not tested it, I have not gone to do research to find out whether they adhere to some of these but in my own thinking, in my opinion, I think they neglect, they don’t get, they don’t find time to pay attention towards this disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you give them appointments ah... I don’t know if you have given some to come back maybe you have been here for two months?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, 2 months"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "2 months? Have you had to give any to go back for appointment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was the turn up, did they turn up?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.877467190055397, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was the turn up, did they turn up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes fortunately they come back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely they come, if you stress to them the importance of what you are telling them, they come back, you write it on their discharge form,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have just answered what I was going to ask that why do you think they come back for their appointment, so it is stressing of the ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0860746556171077, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes fortunately they come back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely they come, if you stress to them the importance of what you are telling them, they come back, you write it on their discharge form,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have just answered what I was going to ask that why do you think they come back for their appointment, so it is stressing of the ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s the emphasis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "emphasis that you put on?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.317860728463453, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely they come, if you stress to them the importance of what you are telling them, they come back, you write it on their discharge form,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have just answered what I was going to ask that why do you think they come back for their appointment, so it is stressing of the ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s the emphasis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "emphasis that you put on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you attach a lot of emphasis?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5754008094038365, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s the emphasis"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "emphasis that you put on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you attach a lot of emphasis?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They will come back"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.861556454893152, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you attach a lot of emphasis?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They will come back"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they will come back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else do you think motivates them to really come back?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.5327857467816686, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they will come back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else do you think motivates them to really come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To really come back?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know the horrific status you find the patient usually at the peak of the disease, they get helpless and you think yes, we are losing the patient and now seeing this patient come back to life and able to live, walk, I think that also sends signal to them, so they want to listen to what we tell them to come back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when they get better, then they are encouraged to come back?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.703095274201854, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To really come back?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know the horrific status you find the patient usually at the peak of the disease, they get helpless and you think yes, we are losing the patient and now seeing this patient come back to life and able to live, walk, I think that also sends signal to them, so they want to listen to what we tell them to come back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when they get better, then they are encouraged to come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only thing I told you, yes, they are encouraged to come back, the only thing I am not sure about is the day today information you give them that daily dozes do this, give this physio therapy, give these drugs, go buy them that is what I don’t know whether they do but come back, they do come back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So those that come back, have you encountered, why do you think some people don’t come back for their appointment?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1025867582738935, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only thing I told you, yes, they are encouraged to come back, the only thing I am not sure about is the day today information you give them that daily dozes do this, give this physio therapy, give these drugs, go buy them that is what I don’t know whether they do but come back, they do come back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So those that come back, have you encountered, why do you think some people don’t come back for their appointment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes I think because of transport issues"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Transport issues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, issues of no money to transport the child and even when they are here, they try to make call to fund their bills, what they eat and some drugs they buy, so at the end of the day when they get back home, it becomes a challenge given their status, I think that is one of them. I don’t want to attribute it to the negligence but I think I want to attribute it on the capacity to come back and take care, that is why am telling you that even the day to day care, I think it becomes a challenge because I think there are usually large families out because now others also have to eat, what to drink and other basic needs. They tend to ignore health issues, so basically and the late presentation in the hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said they don’t really take health a priority that is why they come and present late?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.336207509193215, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes I think because of transport issues"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Transport issues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, issues of no money to transport the child and even when they are here, they try to make call to fund their bills, what they eat and some drugs they buy, so at the end of the day when they get back home, it becomes a challenge given their status, I think that is one of them. I don’t want to attribute it to the negligence but I think I want to attribute it on the capacity to come back and take care, that is why am telling you that even the day to day care, I think it becomes a challenge because I think there are usually large families out because now others also have to eat, what to drink and other basic needs. They tend to ignore health issues, so basically and the late presentation in the hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said they don’t really take health a priority that is why they come and present late?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because I think they try local remedies, because they try chances, they give it to chance, they delay to present and probably shared negligence to health related issues might also be one of them and then also the ‘’big animal’ ’poverty, poor economic situation that is eating us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is eating...laughs"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.5957861213257942, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, issues of no money to transport the child and even when they are here, they try to make call to fund their bills, what they eat and some drugs they buy, so at the end of the day when they get back home, it becomes a challenge given their status, I think that is one of them. I don’t want to attribute it to the negligence but I think I want to attribute it on the capacity to come back and take care, that is why am telling you that even the day to day care, I think it becomes a challenge because I think there are usually large families out because now others also have to eat, what to drink and other basic needs. They tend to ignore health issues, so basically and the late presentation in the hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said they don’t really take health a priority that is why they come and present late?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because I think they try local remedies, because they try chances, they give it to chance, they delay to present and probably shared negligence to health related issues might also be one of them and then also the ‘’big animal’ ’poverty, poor economic situation that is eating us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is eating...laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then let’s look at the local health system barriers here, what is not working for you on your side here in lira hospital, you want to do this but you are let down"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7730956903619937, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because I think they try local remedies, because they try chances, they give it to chance, they delay to present and probably shared negligence to health related issues might also be one of them and then also the ‘’big animal’ ’poverty, poor economic situation that is eating us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is eating...laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and then let’s look at the local health system barriers here, what is not working for you on your side here in lira hospital, you want to do this but you are let down"}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry to say this but investigations are so limited, investigations are so limited here in lira hospital. Investigations are done outside the hospital from private settings and yet we also discovered that not all private facilities give correct results from the investigations, so you can’t investigate properly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said that you don’t have, you don’t have a ECG machines?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0778959140271527, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "sorry to say this but investigations are so limited, investigations are so limited here in lira hospital. Investigations are done outside the hospital from private settings and yet we also discovered that not all private facilities give correct results from the investigations, so you can’t investigate properly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you said that you don’t have, you don’t have a ECG machines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now here if I am to point out, the only thing here is the ultra sound and x-ray. for a CBC you can’t, I can’t do a CBC within, we can’t do echo, I can’t do CT, I can’t do...of course CT is now too much to ask but I can’t do a CT,I can’t do any electrolytes, you get it! I can’t do any microbiology related investigations. You don’t think of a culture or of chemistry or any other things, I don’t think even just of a gram stain of course I can’t analyse urine laughs, so I don’t know why those challenges are persistent but that is the picture, what I can only do is an x-ray and ultra sound, those two are not enough to investigate the patient and they are far from helping the patient, so that’s one of the barriers, another barrier to help would also be the series of those I listed. Being a regional hospital, people come from very far and when they come here, they find it hard to maintain themselves, you want to keep the patient but the attendants have nothing to eat, they have nothing to help them, so that becomes also a barrier, that becomes a barrier coming from the side of the patient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Patient’s side"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Mulago, patients gets some food, Are patients here given food in the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1976621266968364, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now here if I am to point out, the only thing here is the ultra sound and x-ray. for a CBC you can’t, I can’t do a CBC within, we can’t do echo, I can’t do CT, I can’t do...of course CT is now too much to ask but I can’t do a CT,I can’t do any electrolytes, you get it! I can’t do any microbiology related investigations. You don’t think of a culture or of chemistry or any other things, I don’t think even just of a gram stain of course I can’t analyse urine laughs, so I don’t know why those challenges are persistent but that is the picture, what I can only do is an x-ray and ultra sound, those two are not enough to investigate the patient and they are far from helping the patient, so that’s one of the barriers, another barrier to help would also be the series of those I listed. Being a regional hospital, people come from very far and when they come here, they find it hard to maintain themselves, you want to keep the patient but the attendants have nothing to eat, they have nothing to help them, so that becomes also a barrier, that becomes a barrier coming from the side of the patient"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Patient’s side"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Mulago, patients gets some food, Are patients here given food in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not given food, food is not there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There is no food, you are to cater?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.330735696329818, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Patient’s side"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Mulago, patients gets some food, Are patients here given food in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not given food, food is not there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There is no food, you are to cater?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no kitchen working because even me, I don’t eat food here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs...even you, you don’t eat food?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.478595218144242, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are not given food, food is not there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There is no food, you are to cater?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no kitchen working because even me, I don’t eat food here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs...even you, you don’t eat food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs...I thought it was across because like in kawempe where I work, you get food"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6428835757158244, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no kitchen working because even me, I don’t eat food here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs...even you, you don’t eat food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs...I thought it was across because like in kawempe where I work, you get food"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t get food here, we have been trying with the director on that, we can’t be hungry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you look at funding for health care"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.825426195239805, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs...I thought it was across because like in kawempe where I work, you get food"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t get food here, we have been trying with the director on that, we can’t be hungry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you look at funding for health care"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Funding for the health care I think it’s still far below the belt, funding for health care is still below"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then for RHD care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.028251328044228, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t get food here, we have been trying with the director on that, we can’t be hungry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you look at funding for health care"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Funding for the health care I think it’s still far below the belt, funding for health care is still below"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then for RHD care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For RHD care becomes very serious, indeed it turns out to be like a luxury, they will not because if they cannot provide those others, food and the rest, singling RHD might be a long way to go, for health, for the hospital and for the ministry or for the budget ok, to take care, it will be a challenge, to me i think so unless your justification but I see it as a problem"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then let’s look at the administration, how do you look at it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.031390364493586294, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Funding for the health care I think it’s still far below the belt, funding for health care is still below"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then for RHD care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For RHD care becomes very serious, indeed it turns out to be like a luxury, they will not because if they cannot provide those others, food and the rest, singling RHD might be a long way to go, for health, for the hospital and for the ministry or for the budget ok, to take care, it will be a challenge, to me i think so unless your justification but I see it as a problem"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then let’s look at the administration, how do you look at it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Administration, I have not paid much attention to the issues of the administration much in this period of 2 months. But so far I see administration is there, there is no gap, I don’t see the gap because I see the director is around, all the offices are occupied ,the SPNO is there, the heads of departments are there ok so they can be there. What happens in the administration is not just people occupying the offices, work going on and that is a sensitive part that someone had to talk about"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in case you need something to ease your work and you raise the issues to the administration, what is the response?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.03487818277065144, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For RHD care becomes very serious, indeed it turns out to be like a luxury, they will not because if they cannot provide those others, food and the rest, singling RHD might be a long way to go, for health, for the hospital and for the ministry or for the budget ok, to take care, it will be a challenge, to me i think so unless your justification but I see it as a problem"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then let’s look at the administration, how do you look at it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Administration, I have not paid much attention to the issues of the administration much in this period of 2 months. But so far I see administration is there, there is no gap, I don’t see the gap because I see the director is around, all the offices are occupied ,the SPNO is there, the heads of departments are there ok so they can be there. What happens in the administration is not just people occupying the offices, work going on and that is a sensitive part that someone had to talk about"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in case you need something to ease your work and you raise the issues to the administration, what is the response?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What was the response? The response is simplified to lets work within our means, its simplified to that level, just we use what you have available, what you don’t have, patients can go do it.if they cannot, if the miss schedule are not within, you refer to the national referral and that’s why we can refer patients just for INR to Mulago with far bleeding issues"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok taking it to a higher level leadership within the district do you see any concern for the health issues?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.03875353641183493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Administration, I have not paid much attention to the issues of the administration much in this period of 2 months. But so far I see administration is there, there is no gap, I don’t see the gap because I see the director is around, all the offices are occupied ,the SPNO is there, the heads of departments are there ok so they can be there. What happens in the administration is not just people occupying the offices, work going on and that is a sensitive part that someone had to talk about"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in case you need something to ease your work and you raise the issues to the administration, what is the response?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What was the response? The response is simplified to lets work within our means, its simplified to that level, just we use what you have available, what you don’t have, patients can go do it.if they cannot, if the miss schedule are not within, you refer to the national referral and that’s why we can refer patients just for INR to Mulago with far bleeding issues"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok taking it to a higher level leadership within the district do you see any concern for the health issues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the district? Yeah, at the district I have not yet broadened my...,I don’t know because I have only been here for a short period of two months, in a short period of time to know how they engage at that level. I have not yet taken time to study their engagement and development about our matters"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about health information system, medical record system at this place when you look at it, is it working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.043059484902038814, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What was the response? The response is simplified to lets work within our means, its simplified to that level, just we use what you have available, what you don’t have, patients can go do it.if they cannot, if the miss schedule are not within, you refer to the national referral and that’s why we can refer patients just for INR to Mulago with far bleeding issues"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok taking it to a higher level leadership within the district do you see any concern for the health issues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the district? Yeah, at the district I have not yet broadened my...,I don’t know because I have only been here for a short period of two months, in a short period of time to know how they engage at that level. I have not yet taken time to study their engagement and development about our matters"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about health information system, medical record system at this place when you look at it, is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we have a record office, let me show you how it flows, we have an outpatient, we have an emergency department, so from the outpatient for these requiring emergency, management and possible admission, they come, they open for them a file from record office. Now at the record office, all patients’ information is kept there, it’s usually hard copy and I think digital computer"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You call it digital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.05315985790375162, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we have a record office, let me show you how it flows, we have an outpatient, we have an emergency department, so from the outpatient for these requiring emergency, management and possible admission, they come, they open for them a file from record office. Now at the record office, all patients’ information is kept there, it’s usually hard copy and I think digital computer"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You call it digital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they have a computer system"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where they keep some information about the patients, what I know is we have a record office where patient’s information are"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just in case I wanted to go today and I just look at the RHD that they saw from January- November, will it be possible to get the information?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.05906650878194624, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they have a computer system"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where they keep some information about the patients, what I know is we have a record office where patient’s information are"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just in case I wanted to go today and I just look at the RHD that they saw from January- November, will it be possible to get the information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That needs a trial, we need to try the system, I need..., I haven’t checked but I need to find out like I told you, office can be there like this record office but that does not be the thing there but the activity there, are they going on, are there, is there capacity to do the right thing, are people doing the right thing, that detail I need to find out but for the structure, the organogram, I see the structure is there, I don’t know whether it’s giving, its doing what it’s supposed to do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why I’m asking is because we find some health facilities, you just reach there and then you have the boards"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07292161578018054, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That needs a trial, we need to try the system, I need..., I haven’t checked but I need to find out like I told you, office can be there like this record office but that does not be the thing there but the activity there, are they going on, are there, is there capacity to do the right thing, are people doing the right thing, that detail I need to find out but for the structure, the organogram, I see the structure is there, I don’t know whether it’s giving, its doing what it’s supposed to do"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why I’m asking is because we find some health facilities, you just reach there and then you have the boards"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Boards?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Statistics"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Statistics of this...you are right, those statistics, that feedback, that information is not available, you cannot go to my office and you are able to see on boards the disease patterns or distribution of the disease and easily. I don’t know whether that information is at the records office but at my level, it’s not available"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you have, could you be having guidelines and protocols for RHD care here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.09002668614837103, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Statistics of this...you are right, those statistics, that feedback, that information is not available, you cannot go to my office and you are able to see on boards the disease patterns or distribution of the disease and easily. I don’t know whether that information is at the records office but at my level, it’s not available"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you have, could you be having guidelines and protocols for RHD care here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not yet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have CME’s here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.10002965127596782, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not yet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have CME’s here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get here CME’s"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you attended any of the RHD training?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.11114405697329757, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have CME’s here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get here CME’s"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you attended any of the RHD training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet, the CME’s we have attended are mostly to do with gyne, to do with gyne issue and other emergencies, RHD not yet"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not yet ehh...? Will you find them important if at all?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1234933966369973, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get here CME’s"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you attended any of the RHD training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet, the CME’s we have attended are mostly to do with gyne, to do with gyne issue and other emergencies, RHD not yet"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not yet ehh...? Will you find them important if at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it would actually be very important to give capacity to health workers, start with the health worker capacity to have knowledge on how to manage it and also how to maintain the patient. After the treatment, how to keep the patients, it’s very important if we could have the training"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So would you go for having the protocols for RHD and guidelines?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13721488515221922, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not yet, the CME’s we have attended are mostly to do with gyne, to do with gyne issue and other emergencies, RHD not yet"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not yet ehh...? Will you find them important if at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it would actually be very important to give capacity to health workers, start with the health worker capacity to have knowledge on how to manage it and also how to maintain the patient. After the treatment, how to keep the patients, it’s very important if we could have the training"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So would you go for having the protocols for RHD and guidelines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but do you think, I would go for if you asked me, I would go for CME’s to create, to increase, to raise these people’s suspicion index, you need to raise these people’s suspicion index because I have found, I told you of one who went through the emergency department and reached to the ward and he was getting treated of pneumonia without anyone thinking of RHD, that shows the knowledge gap, so you raise the suspicion index then you bring the material for people who already suspicious of the disease or is aware of the incidence of the disease. Then materials will help, so the protocols are there, how to manage, the outcomes and how to advise these people subsequently after hospital stay, now at home, how they should take care of themselves, home care and the rest of it, those ones now would benefit those who are already with the highest suspicion and are knowledgeable about this disease.so if you asked me, CME’s first then eventually protocols and guidelines, would be coming"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok did you talk, do you have ah...how are your stocks for heart failure drugs, anti-coagulations drugs and then the BPG"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.16940109278051754, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but do you think, I would go for if you asked me, I would go for CME’s to create, to increase, to raise these people’s suspicion index, you need to raise these people’s suspicion index because I have found, I told you of one who went through the emergency department and reached to the ward and he was getting treated of pneumonia without anyone thinking of RHD, that shows the knowledge gap, so you raise the suspicion index then you bring the material for people who already suspicious of the disease or is aware of the incidence of the disease. Then materials will help, so the protocols are there, how to manage, the outcomes and how to advise these people subsequently after hospital stay, now at home, how they should take care of themselves, home care and the rest of it, those ones now would benefit those who are already with the highest suspicion and are knowledgeable about this disease.so if you asked me, CME’s first then eventually protocols and guidelines, would be coming"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok did you talk, do you have ah...how are your stocks for heart failure drugs, anti-coagulations drugs and then the BPG"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Heart failure drugs especially congesting heart failure?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have stocked phroximide, we are stocked with phroximide but that goes along with spironatol but when it comes to hypertensive drugs, they are usually not available, they are out of stock. I have always, a part from propanol as the inter blocker, the rest they have to buy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think that it’s always like that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.18822343642279726, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Heart failure drugs especially congesting heart failure?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have stocked phroximide, we are stocked with phroximide but that goes along with spironatol but when it comes to hypertensive drugs, they are usually not available, they are out of stock. I have always, a part from propanol as the inter blocker, the rest they have to buy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think that it’s always like that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know, I don’t know, I think, I think it still goes back to the budget allocations to help, most of the drugs we have are for the basic care, basic care, you know for the serious treatment, patients have to go and buy,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And buy for themselves?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.23237461286765093, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know, I don’t know, I think, I think it still goes back to the budget allocations to help, most of the drugs we have are for the basic care, basic care, you know for the serious treatment, patients have to go and buy,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And buy for themselves?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for instance the hypertensive drugs are hard to find in the pharmacy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In pharmacy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the hospital pharmacy, it’s very hard"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So looking at the system here, the local health system here, what has worked for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3187580423424567, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What has worked for me?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And why"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok, as like I told you, as an intern doctor, what has worked for me is my working relations with the senior staffs and the supervisors, it has worked for me because I make decisions that are verified, some cases corrected and for me that works for me and also the drugs for basic needs are always available, in most cases, they run out for a short while the deliveries are made, when they are made, at least they are sure of having basic needs which are substantial to buy anti biotics to start with as you think of out there yes and space because with that space you can do your work"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok for the things you have mentioned, what has worked for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3541756026027297, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And why"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok, as like I told you, as an intern doctor, what has worked for me is my working relations with the senior staffs and the supervisors, it has worked for me because I make decisions that are verified, some cases corrected and for me that works for me and also the drugs for basic needs are always available, in most cases, they run out for a short while the deliveries are made, when they are made, at least they are sure of having basic needs which are substantial to buy anti biotics to start with as you think of out there yes and space because with that space you can do your work"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok for the things you have mentioned, what has worked for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least after basic education, the relations with the staffs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the numbers, are you comfortable with it"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3935284473363663, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok, as like I told you, as an intern doctor, what has worked for me is my working relations with the senior staffs and the supervisors, it has worked for me because I make decisions that are verified, some cases corrected and for me that works for me and also the drugs for basic needs are always available, in most cases, they run out for a short while the deliveries are made, when they are made, at least they are sure of having basic needs which are substantial to buy anti biotics to start with as you think of out there yes and space because with that space you can do your work"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok for the things you have mentioned, what has worked for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At least after basic education, the relations with the staffs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the numbers, are you comfortable with it"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh! That is one of the thing that has not worked for me, the number are soooo big but with limited staffs and so ok,the numbers are very big, yeah and the staffing is small so the patient –doctor ratio is very small, sorry, it’s so huge, the other way round, the numbers are big"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said there is a gap in the staffing?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.48583758930415594, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh! That is one of the thing that has not worked for me, the number are soooo big but with limited staffs and so ok,the numbers are very big, yeah and the staffing is small so the patient –doctor ratio is very small, sorry, it’s so huge, the other way round, the numbers are big"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said there is a gap in the staffing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a very big gap in the staffing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where specifically?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Especially the doctors, the number of doctors is very, it’s really very small, the nurses can be there, they get help from the nursing students, they can administer drugs but when it comes to the real clinical care of the patient, you need a doctor’s hand on the patient and you see when the numbers are big, you try to reduce on the number of time you spend with the patients and that causes a lot of problems in terms of making effective diagnosis and care to the patients, so you try to distribute your time to many people, you see this one briefly, they talk to this one faster, faster, you pick what you can do to save them, you start with urgent situation, you be with them, you don’t pay much attention or give enough time thoroughly to get the information that help the patient out of the problem leading to a longer stay in the ward"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in case of the RHD that are ..., have you ever referred any?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5398195436712844, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a very big gap in the staffing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where specifically?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Especially the doctors, the number of doctors is very, it’s really very small, the nurses can be there, they get help from the nursing students, they can administer drugs but when it comes to the real clinical care of the patient, you need a doctor’s hand on the patient and you see when the numbers are big, you try to reduce on the number of time you spend with the patients and that causes a lot of problems in terms of making effective diagnosis and care to the patients, so you try to distribute your time to many people, you see this one briefly, they talk to this one faster, faster, you pick what you can do to save them, you start with urgent situation, you be with them, you don’t pay much attention or give enough time thoroughly to get the information that help the patient out of the problem leading to a longer stay in the ward"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in case of the RHD that are ..., have you ever referred any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not yet referred RHD patient because the ones I have managed, I have been able to discharge, so I have not yet"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you have any guidelines in this on how to refer them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6664438810756598, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not yet referred RHD patient because the ones I have managed, I have been able to discharge, so I have not yet"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you have any guidelines in this on how to refer them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven’t gotten the guidelines"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No guidelines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am still using my piece of knowledge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you find them important"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7404932011951775, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I haven’t gotten the guidelines"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No guidelines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am still using my piece of knowledge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you find them important"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very important, very important to have these guidelines because you know guidelines help in simplifying on time you take thinking of what to do in this situation, you just have the outlines there and then you tailor the information very accurately to the patient, also your approach is well tailored, it guides you"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you feel satisfied with what you went through?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8227702235501971, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am still using my piece of knowledge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you find them important"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very important, very important to have these guidelines because you know guidelines help in simplifying on time you take thinking of what to do in this situation, you just have the outlines there and then you tailor the information very accurately to the patient, also your approach is well tailored, it guides you"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you feel satisfied with what you went through?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a struggle, it’s still a challenge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know why we even ask the health workers this question"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9141891372779968, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very important, very important to have these guidelines because you know guidelines help in simplifying on time you take thinking of what to do in this situation, you just have the outlines there and then you tailor the information very accurately to the patient, also your approach is well tailored, it guides you"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you feel satisfied with what you went through?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a struggle, it’s still a challenge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know why we even ask the health workers this question"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s because it will require an integration just in case ah...the health workers thinks they are giving enough care, laughs, time and the other side the patients cannot"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.015765708086663, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a struggle, it’s still a challenge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know why we even ask the health workers this question"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s because it will require an integration just in case ah...the health workers thinks they are giving enough care, laughs, time and the other side the patients cannot"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If I cannot do a follow up, echo, I cannot do follow up, ECG’S, i cannot do you know do those other investigations to make sure the patient is out of danger then what is my right? I can’t be satisfied that I have done enough. I only base on the symptoms, the resolutions of the symptoms, ah... you go give us space"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can patients access surgery here, RHD patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1286285645407368, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s because it will require an integration just in case ah...the health workers thinks they are giving enough care, laughs, time and the other side the patients cannot"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If I cannot do a follow up, echo, I cannot do follow up, ECG’S, i cannot do you know do those other investigations to make sure the patient is out of danger then what is my right? I can’t be satisfied that I have done enough. I only base on the symptoms, the resolutions of the symptoms, ah... you go give us space"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can patients access surgery here, RHD patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s not done?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5481873313316006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, this is a referral"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laugh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can IO’s, sometimes we can have a dysfunctional theatre and cannot do IO’s here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not touched the heart valves, so it’s far, it’s far from that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there are some deaths here which occurred that surely would have been prevented?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7202081459240006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can IO’s, sometimes we can have a dysfunctional theatre and cannot do IO’s here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not touched the heart valves, so it’s far, it’s far from that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there are some deaths here which occurred that surely would have been prevented?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very many because sometimes we can have very many cases that patients die of anaemia because we don’t have the blood bank. Patients die because they cannot afford the good antibiotics to...I give anti biotics to treat them, patients die because doctors sometimes are out of the station"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok last bit that we are looking at, let’s look at the perception of the patient’s outcomes, generally do you think they get the care that they need here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9113423843600006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not touched the heart valves, so it’s far, it’s far from that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there are some deaths here which occurred that surely would have been prevented?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very many because sometimes we can have very many cases that patients die of anaemia because we don’t have the blood bank. Patients die because they cannot afford the good antibiotics to...I give anti biotics to treat them, patients die because doctors sometimes are out of the station"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok last bit that we are looking at, let’s look at the perception of the patient’s outcomes, generally do you think they get the care that they need here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We struggle with that aspect, patient satisfaction like I told you, you are the only doctor running around, the patients are looking at you, the whole day you are there you don’t have time to see them, after maybe after one day, I think patients satisfaction is lacking’ I don’t think they are satisfied"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are not satisfied?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1237137604000007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very many because sometimes we can have very many cases that patients die of anaemia because we don’t have the blood bank. Patients die because they cannot afford the good antibiotics to...I give anti biotics to treat them, patients die because doctors sometimes are out of the station"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok last bit that we are looking at, let’s look at the perception of the patient’s outcomes, generally do you think they get the care that they need here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We struggle with that aspect, patient satisfaction like I told you, you are the only doctor running around, the patients are looking at you, the whole day you are there you don’t have time to see them, after maybe after one day, I think patients satisfaction is lacking’ I don’t think they are satisfied"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are not satisfied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But as long as the symptoms are resolved they will feel happy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you feel that they get the treatment that they need before they go away"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3596819560000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We struggle with that aspect, patient satisfaction like I told you, you are the only doctor running around, the patients are looking at you, the whole day you are there you don’t have time to see them, after maybe after one day, I think patients satisfaction is lacking’ I don’t think they are satisfied"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are not satisfied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But as long as the symptoms are resolved they will feel happy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you feel that they get the treatment that they need before they go away"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get the basic"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs, they get the basics?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6218688400000008, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But as long as the symptoms are resolved they will feel happy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you feel that they get the treatment that they need before they go away"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get the basic"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs, they get the basics?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs, they get the basic treatment, I think they are not getting enough treatment that they deserve, even if they get it ,they delay in getting it but at the end of the day ,whatever they get ,it is helping them to go home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so what do you think causes it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.9131876000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get the basic"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs, they get the basics?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs, they get the basic treatment, I think they are not getting enough treatment that they deserve, even if they get it ,they delay in getting it but at the end of the day ,whatever they get ,it is helping them to go home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so what do you think causes it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That question actually would be best answered by those patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By the patient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1257640000000007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "laughs, they get the basic treatment, I think they are not getting enough treatment that they deserve, even if they get it ,they delay in getting it but at the end of the day ,whatever they get ,it is helping them to go home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so what do you think causes it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That question actually would be best answered by those patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By the patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, do you think..., do you feel, that is a perceptive because for me now, when I see you, yes, you are good enough to go home. I think you have gotten already what you need but the feedback should also be there and the drugs are available or nurses are not available to extend to the immediate needs of the patients, patients die because the required drugs cannot be found anywhere within like I had similar case, a severe hypertension, hypertensive crisis patient who could not get glabeterol IV and we could not save him immediately or even night hour, so there are so many deaths that would be prevented"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That would be prevented?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:255", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3619600000000007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That question actually would be best answered by those patients"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By the patient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, do you think..., do you feel, that is a perceptive because for me now, when I see you, yes, you are good enough to go home. I think you have gotten already what you need but the feedback should also be there and the drugs are available or nurses are not available to extend to the immediate needs of the patients, patients die because the required drugs cannot be found anywhere within like I had similar case, a severe hypertension, hypertensive crisis patient who could not get glabeterol IV and we could not save him immediately or even night hour, so there are so many deaths that would be prevented"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That would be prevented?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Preventable deaths occurring but not to allow, we try with whatever we have to save lives"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the patient’s safety, do you have any concerns about their safety?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:257", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6244000000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, do you think..., do you feel, that is a perceptive because for me now, when I see you, yes, you are good enough to go home. I think you have gotten already what you need but the feedback should also be there and the drugs are available or nurses are not available to extend to the immediate needs of the patients, patients die because the required drugs cannot be found anywhere within like I had similar case, a severe hypertension, hypertensive crisis patient who could not get glabeterol IV and we could not save him immediately or even night hour, so there are so many deaths that would be prevented"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That would be prevented?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Preventable deaths occurring but not to allow, we try with whatever we have to save lives"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the patient’s safety, do you have any concerns about their safety?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Safety is broad, is it security, or it is health?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes in health"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9160000000000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Preventable deaths occurring but not to allow, we try with whatever we have to save lives"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the patient’s safety, do you have any concerns about their safety?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Safety is broad, is it security, or it is health?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes in health"}, {"role": "user", "content": "How they are managed, the safety I would say provided the doctor is available and the doctor is knowledgeable, the patients are safe. For now I would think really that the patient are safe that is the reason they kept coming, flocking because they go back discharged some of them, the safety is...i think is at least above the belts, its abit fair, they feel safe"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you think that there are some patients who have died in the community without even stepping into the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:261", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.24, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Safety is broad, is it security, or it is health?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes in health"}, {"role": "user", "content": "How they are managed, the safety I would say provided the doctor is available and the doctor is knowledgeable, the patients are safe. For now I would think really that the patient are safe that is the reason they kept coming, flocking because they go back discharged some of them, the safety is...i think is at least above the belts, its abit fair, they feel safe"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you think that there are some patients who have died in the community without even stepping into the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some deaths of arrivals, it is also in big number, I have also realised that private clinics admits patients when they see the patients are about to...they are failing to handle the conditions, they send patient here to die, they delay them in the private hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the RHD patients in particular, do you think they have some..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:263", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "How they are managed, the safety I would say provided the doctor is available and the doctor is knowledgeable, the patients are safe. For now I would think really that the patient are safe that is the reason they kept coming, flocking because they go back discharged some of them, the safety is...i think is at least above the belts, its abit fair, they feel safe"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, do you think that there are some patients who have died in the community without even stepping into the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some deaths of arrivals, it is also in big number, I have also realised that private clinics admits patients when they see the patients are about to...they are failing to handle the conditions, they send patient here to die, they delay them in the private hospital"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the RHD patients in particular, do you think they have some..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "RHD’s I haven’t, I haven’t heard of death on arrival or death due to RHD yet in this period of two months or maybe as time goes on but not ,I haven’t"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is your opinion? Give me two most important things ministry of health should do to improve on RHD outcomes"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:273", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was reading through the concept yes the project, this is a project?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is a research"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a research project?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "How long is it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have two hands, she is directly handling quantitative and the qualitative is on, it might go on because we have four district to cover, we are going to Mbale, we are going to mbarara, we are going to Kampala and we have stared with lira, so we might run for the next one year and a half"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:275", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a research project?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "How long is it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have two hands, she is directly handling quantitative and the qualitative is on, it might go on because we have four district to cover, we are going to Mbale, we are going to mbarara, we are going to Kampala and we have stared with lira, so we might run for the next one year and a half"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So when do I get my feedback because it says that there will be a feed back?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We will give feedbacks in case there are findings, new findings that would be having an impact on your work"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:277", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "How long is it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have two hands, she is directly handling quantitative and the qualitative is on, it might go on because we have four district to cover, we are going to Mbale, we are going to mbarara, we are going to Kampala and we have stared with lira, so we might run for the next one year and a half"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So when do I get my feedback because it says that there will be a feed back?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We will give feedbacks in case there are findings, new findings that would be having an impact on your work"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that comes after we have analysed all the data"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So when do I get my feedback because it says that there will be a feed back?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We will give feedbacks in case there are findings, new findings that would be having an impact on your work"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that comes after we have analysed all the data"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is after one year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs...one and a half"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:281", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that comes after we have analysed all the data"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is after one year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs...one and a half"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One and a half?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And we shall disseminate the information, am sure when we are doing that we shall call your representatives"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00002:283", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is after one year"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "laughs...one and a half"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One and a half?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And we shall disseminate the information, am sure when we are doing that we shall call your representatives"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is ok"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok and also use the publications to disseminate the information"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00001:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.639000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, we have internal example... There was one startup, a Finnish startup, which, which was both kind of a parallel to our activities. And it was never integrated... practically all relevant people left. It's a shell of what it was before. And money losing operation more or less..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And obviously, you know what you're doing and know the industry well, and, I think it's impressive to have the ambition and courage to be the r&d guy in a world of the sales, business devs community that you've participated in, which would be a change process for you personally as well"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, to be honest, I was always very much interested in the business but also in the R&D. I really, really hated to, to just count the projects and run the KPIs and so on, and I'm really not the KPI guy. Even when I was in r&d, when people asked me, What's your role in the company? I said: \"to make money\"."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you perceive was the biggest revelation from this change? Because obviously, you've made the results. On the other hand, you mentioned that there's been some turbulence in the team. Was this turbulence a natural thing? You know, people got bored with the project and started something else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I think it was, it was, I was expecting this to happen when we went back (to the Mother company). Because some people couldn't really see themselves especially in the pair, okay, in the regular environment. (one of the team members) perceived herself as super, super innovative and so on. Though, in reality, when she was in the role with us... her, her contribution was not really in innovation. Her contribution was only in the diversity. So now many people talk about diversity and inclusion. I mean, she was deliberately put into the team, to break this mindset which because all the rest were engineers, and she is anthropologist."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think she was kind of the driver of resistance or kind of, you know, questioning too much? Questioning the status quo, disrupting things where they shouldn't have been disrupted?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00001:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.71, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, to be honest, I was always very much interested in the business but also in the R&D. I really, really hated to, to just count the projects and run the KPIs and so on, and I'm really not the KPI guy. Even when I was in r&d, when people asked me, What's your role in the company? I said: \"to make money\"."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you perceive was the biggest revelation from this change? Because obviously, you've made the results. On the other hand, you mentioned that there's been some turbulence in the team. Was this turbulence a natural thing? You know, people got bored with the project and started something else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I think it was, it was, I was expecting this to happen when we went back (to the Mother company). Because some people couldn't really see themselves especially in the pair, okay, in the regular environment. (one of the team members) perceived herself as super, super innovative and so on. Though, in reality, when she was in the role with us... her, her contribution was not really in innovation. Her contribution was only in the diversity. So now many people talk about diversity and inclusion. I mean, she was deliberately put into the team, to break this mindset which because all the rest were engineers, and she is anthropologist."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think she was kind of the driver of resistance or kind of, you know, questioning too much? Questioning the status quo, disrupting things where they shouldn't have been disrupted?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She always questioned herself... If she was good enough for the team."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you like to emphasize as a key learning of the whole process and you know, the way that people have adapted to that, because you've mentioned you have to influence like 2000 people a day, if I remember correctly, was a large scale."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00001:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 11, "return_to_go": 11.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I think it was, it was, I was expecting this to happen when we went back (to the Mother company). Because some people couldn't really see themselves especially in the pair, okay, in the regular environment. (one of the team members) perceived herself as super, super innovative and so on. Though, in reality, when she was in the role with us... her, her contribution was not really in innovation. Her contribution was only in the diversity. So now many people talk about diversity and inclusion. I mean, she was deliberately put into the team, to break this mindset which because all the rest were engineers, and she is anthropologist."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think she was kind of the driver of resistance or kind of, you know, questioning too much? Questioning the status quo, disrupting things where they shouldn't have been disrupted?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She always questioned herself... If she was good enough for the team."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you like to emphasize as a key learning of the whole process and you know, the way that people have adapted to that, because you've mentioned you have to influence like 2000 people a day, if I remember correctly, was a large scale."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Surely, it's, I would say a very old wisdom, you cannot do anything by force."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you use any specific metaphors, which kind of occurred over and over and over during the years? Is there a metaphor that you could use for this story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00001:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She always questioned herself... If she was good enough for the team."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you like to emphasize as a key learning of the whole process and you know, the way that people have adapted to that, because you've mentioned you have to influence like 2000 people a day, if I remember correctly, was a large scale."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Surely, it's, I would say a very old wisdom, you cannot do anything by force."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you use any specific metaphors, which kind of occurred over and over and over during the years? Is there a metaphor that you could use for this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure, I used the story of several companies who didn't do it right? Especially in this model, IBM was a wonderful example or Michelin or similar. Because if you... if you really use this model, you can see how great ideas fell, fell to the floor, because they were not properly nested in the Company. This was one thing, the other thing we actually came to, to a very strong ecosystem understanding So now, now, we are doing partnerships, coopetition agreement, stuff like this... So like, okay, one story, for instance, when… when Apple came with the first phone, they went to Verizon, and said, you will sell this phone? I think it was 399. I said no way, we will not. Go away. We are selling Nokia's for 5099. So so they went to AT and T 18. T said what the heck we heard, I think it was right. So so at&t took took Apple phone into their subscription model. In in six months, 30% of the Verizon subscription went to at&t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's the moral of the story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00001:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Who had bigger a bigger value proposition? A component Or? Or? system? Obviously, component? I like the Aspirin metaphor, you know, take one thing goes away three hours later pains back. Yeah, that's a simple metaphor. You don't, you don't heal the root cause. Reduce the pain? Yeah, yeah. And root cause was, in these cases, I think it was more in the personality part. But the hit actually, the backtrack from the goal..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that makes perfect sense for me. And to kind of wrap this up this part where we do the storytelling element. A quick, quick question for you. If you had to, you know, on the spot, decide who was the protagonist of the story? And who was the bad guy of the story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually protagonist was my team. These people really, really fought for this, what was really breaking the thing was old product management, or product management structure, partly because they were, they were feeling competition. It was partly but more of us because of the personality of certain people, each of them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you say the personality of these people within the company, which were kind of more alike, or the personality of your team, which was a little bit different?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it's personality of these people who… who were incapable of thinking big, but only incremental. You can call them the corporate guys (laughs). I would say it's more or less with almost always Lower Mid mid management. So just the ones who are, like, above individual contributors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, makes sense. Makes sense. Being mindful of your time, I'd like to thank you once again, for taking the time to talk through these details. I'm going to do the narrative analysis, all of these elements, do the follow up report with you to kind of take a look at the grander like, meta narrative of these individual change stories, if that's something that's"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00001:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually protagonist was my team. These people really, really fought for this, what was really breaking the thing was old product management, or product management structure, partly because they were, they were feeling competition. It was partly but more of us because of the personality of certain people, each of them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you say the personality of these people within the company, which were kind of more alike, or the personality of your team, which was a little bit different?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it's personality of these people who… who were incapable of thinking big, but only incremental. You can call them the corporate guys (laughs). I would say it's more or less with almost always Lower Mid mid management. So just the ones who are, like, above individual contributors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, makes sense. Makes sense. Being mindful of your time, I'd like to thank you once again, for taking the time to talk through these details. I'm going to do the narrative analysis, all of these elements, do the follow up report with you to kind of take a look at the grander like, meta narrative of these individual change stories, if that's something that's"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that will be very interesting... Because obviously, I will need to repeat this with another business. Similar symptoms as the one before..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another intrapreneurial story. Cool. Like I said, I'm gonna prepare to you a more detailed in depth report. Maybe that will be helpful to you. Thanks again and wish you a safe trip."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8260763822171833, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am fine and you?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am also fine, Mother I would like to know your age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am 40 years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the major event happened in your community by the time you were born may be your parents told you if something happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was drought,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what else happened?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.1400848691302037, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am 40 years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the major event happened in your community by the time you were born may be your parents told you if something happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was drought,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what else happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They told me there was a big ceremony when I was born."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which Village were you born and grew up?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.3778720768113373, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was drought,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what else happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They told me there was a big ceremony when I was born."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which Village were you born and grew up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Melela."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Melela in which district?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5309689742348191, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They told me there was a big ceremony when I was born."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which Village were you born and grew up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Melela."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Melela in which district?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mvomero District."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it is in which ward?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5899655269275766, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Melela."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Melela in which district?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mvomero District."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it is in which ward?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Kolola Ward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know your family structure when you were living with your parents? I mean were you living in the same house father, mother and children in your own house, or was it father, mother and children in the same homestead, or were you living father, mother, children, grandfather, grandmother and cousins and things of that sort."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6555172521417518, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mvomero District."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it is in which ward?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Kolola Ward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know your family structure when you were living with your parents? I mean were you living in the same house father, mother and children in your own house, or was it father, mother and children in the same homestead, or were you living father, mother, children, grandfather, grandmother and cousins and things of that sort."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were living in one homestead with several houses and I was living with my father, mother and my siblings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So were you eating together as family or how was it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7283525023797243, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Kolola Ward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know your family structure when you were living with your parents? I mean were you living in the same house father, mother and children in your own house, or was it father, mother and children in the same homestead, or were you living father, mother, children, grandfather, grandmother and cousins and things of that sort."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were living in one homestead with several houses and I was living with my father, mother and my siblings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So were you eating together as family or how was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating together as family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Only you family or with other relative?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8092805581996936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were living in one homestead with several houses and I was living with my father, mother and my siblings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So were you eating together as family or how was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating together as family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Only you family or with other relative?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was only our family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know when you were young you what were your parents economic activities so as they could earn a living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8992006202218817, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating together as family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Only you family or with other relative?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was only our family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know when you were young you what were your parents economic activities so as they could earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were pastoralist only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which responsibilities or duties were for the men in your family by that time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9991118002465352, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was only our family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know when you were young you what were your parents economic activities so as they could earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were pastoralist only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which responsibilities or duties were for the men in your family by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Boys duty were to look after the cattle’s taking them to graze only"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Men in your family like father what was his responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1101242224961503, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were pastoralist only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which responsibilities or duties were for the men in your family by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Boys duty were to look after the cattle’s taking them to graze only"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Men in your family like father what was his responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was responsible for his family affairs like to provide food for his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from providing food for his family what else did he do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2334713583290557, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Boys duty were to look after the cattle’s taking them to graze only"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Men in your family like father what was his responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was responsible for his family affairs like to provide food for his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from providing food for his family what else did he do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was working in order to earn an income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from working and providing food what was his other duties and responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3705237314767287, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was responsible for his family affairs like to provide food for his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from providing food for his family what else did he do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was working in order to earn an income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from working and providing food what was his other duties and responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was doing farming and rearing of animals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were born were Maasai involved in farming?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.522804146085254, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was working in order to earn an income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from working and providing food what was his other duties and responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was doing farming and rearing of animals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were born were Maasai involved in farming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, Maasai were not involved in farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, your father was involved in what?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6920046067613932, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was doing farming and rearing of animals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were born were Maasai involved in farming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, Maasai were not involved in farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, your father was involved in what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was selling cows so as to buy maize and other foodstuff for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what were the responsibilities of your mother or women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8800051186237703, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, Maasai were not involved in farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, your father was involved in what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was selling cows so as to buy maize and other foodstuff for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what were the responsibilities of your mother or women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Household chores like cooking, washing utensils, cleaning house fetching water and fetching firewood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about female children what were their main responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0888945762486335, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was selling cows so as to buy maize and other foodstuff for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what were the responsibilities of your mother or women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Household chores like cooking, washing utensils, cleaning house fetching water and fetching firewood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about female children what were their main responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fetching firewood, cooking, sweeping the ground and helping the mother in other household chores."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there any one in your family, who went to school at that time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3209939736095926, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Household chores like cooking, washing utensils, cleaning house fetching water and fetching firewood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about female children what were their main responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fetching firewood, cooking, sweeping the ground and helping the mother in other household chores."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there any one in your family, who went to school at that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother when you were young can you tell me how you’re eating like was? What kind of food were you eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.578882192899547, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fetching firewood, cooking, sweeping the ground and helping the mother in other household chores."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there any one in your family, who went to school at that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother when you were young can you tell me how you’re eating like was? What kind of food were you eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to drink milk most of the time whether is fermented milk or fresh milk and sometimes we used to eat ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food were you eaten rarely when you were young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.8654246587772745, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother when you were young can you tell me how you’re eating like was? What kind of food were you eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to drink milk most of the time whether is fermented milk or fresh milk and sometimes we used to eat ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food were you eaten rarely when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rice and vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food was prepared for special people only may be you prepare a special food for children or visitors or mothers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0726940653080828, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to drink milk most of the time whether is fermented milk or fresh milk and sometimes we used to eat ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food were you eaten rarely when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rice and vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food was prepared for special people only may be you prepare a special food for children or visitors or mothers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes kande was prepared when we had visitors?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did your family get the food from?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.30299340589787, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rice and vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food was prepared for special people only may be you prepare a special food for children or visitors or mothers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes kande was prepared when we had visitors?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did your family get the food from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were buying them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about food from the wild or forest?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.558881562108744, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes kande was prepared when we had visitors?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did your family get the food from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were buying them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about food from the wild or forest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are wild fruits that children used to eat them are called furu, mkole they are so many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay tell me what else?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7320906245652712, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were buying them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about food from the wild or forest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are wild fruits that children used to eat them are called furu, mkole they are so many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay tell me what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are many but I know them in Maasai language like iloma, Elgomu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother when you were young who was making decision on what to be bought in your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.924545138405857, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are wild fruits that children used to eat them are called furu, mkole they are so many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay tell me what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are many but I know them in Maasai language like iloma, Elgomu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother when you were young who was making decision on what to be bought in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And by the time you were young who else was making decision together with the father?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.138383487117619, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are many but I know them in Maasai language like iloma, Elgomu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother when you were young who was making decision on what to be bought in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And by the time you were young who else was making decision together with the father?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And whose money was used to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.37598165235291, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And by the time you were young who else was making decision together with the father?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And whose money was used to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father’s money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama you told me you were born in Melela Village isn’t?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.639979613725455, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And whose money was used to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father’s money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama you told me you were born in Melela Village isn’t?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your Melela community how did you know when a girl has matured and was there an initiation ceremony like the dances or what are the things or indicator of her maturity?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9333106819171726, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father’s money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama you told me you were born in Melela Village isn’t?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your Melela community how did you know when a girl has matured and was there an initiation ceremony like the dances or what are the things or indicator of her maturity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will see the breasts developing are like the breasts are becoming big and also she will become big then she will be initiated to adulthood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about boys what were the signs or indicators that he is now are mature man?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2592340910190805, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your Melela community how did you know when a girl has matured and was there an initiation ceremony like the dances or what are the things or indicator of her maturity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will see the breasts developing are like the breasts are becoming big and also she will become big then she will be initiated to adulthood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about boys what were the signs or indicators that he is now are mature man?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He becomes tall and big."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do men have initiation ceremony?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6213712122434227, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will see the breasts developing are like the breasts are becoming big and also she will become big then she will be initiated to adulthood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about boys what were the signs or indicators that he is now are mature man?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He becomes tall and big."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do men have initiation ceremony?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes even men are danced for just like women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And at what age are the boys initiated to adulthood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.023745791381581, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He becomes tall and big."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do men have initiation ceremony?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes even men are danced for just like women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And at what age are the boys initiated to adulthood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they are 15- 16 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about girls?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.248606434868423, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes even men are danced for just like women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And at what age are the boys initiated to adulthood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they are 15- 16 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about girls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Still the same 15-16 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if she reaches 16 years and her breast is not big will she be danced for?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4984515942982477, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they are 15- 16 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about girls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Still the same 15-16 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if she reaches 16 years and her breast is not big will she be danced for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, she will be danced for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You normally count the years or you look at the changes in his/her body structure?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.776057326998053, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Still the same 15-16 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if she reaches 16 years and her breast is not big will she be danced for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, she will be danced for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You normally count the years or you look at the changes in his/her body structure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changes in their body structure. There are some who grows very fast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you how did you know that you are now a mature girl what were the signs?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.0845081411089477, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, she will be danced for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You normally count the years or you look at the changes in his/her body structure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changes in their body structure. There are some who grows very fast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you how did you know that you are now a mature girl what were the signs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "By then there were no schools so I saw my breast became big and I started my menstruation period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, you told me that you were born in Melela and when did you came to Mela?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.3161201567877194, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changes in their body structure. There are some who grows very fast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you how did you know that you are now a mature girl what were the signs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "By then there were no schools so I saw my breast became big and I started my menstruation period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, you told me that you were born in Melela and when did you came to Mela?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have six years now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you to come to Mela?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4623557297641323, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "By then there were no schools so I saw my breast became big and I started my menstruation period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, you told me that you were born in Melela and when did you came to Mela?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have six years now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you to come to Mela?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We bought land here in Mela so we decide to come here and rear our livestock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else are you living with in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6248396997379249, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have six years now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you to come to Mela?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We bought land here in Mela so we decide to come here and rear our livestock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else are you living with in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is me, my children, my husband and my co-wife."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you live in the same house with your co wife?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8053774441532497, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We bought land here in Mela so we decide to come here and rear our livestock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else are you living with in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is me, my children, my husband and my co-wife."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you live in the same house with your co wife?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, she has her own house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old is your co-wife?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8948638268369441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is me, my children, my husband and my co-wife."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you live in the same house with your co wife?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, she has her own house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old is your co-wife?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She is younger than me she is about 22years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which activities do you engage yourselves in order to earn a living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9942931409299379, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, she has her own house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old is your co-wife?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She is younger than me she is about 22years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which activities do you engage yourselves in order to earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Livestock rearing; we rear cattle, goats and chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about when you were living with your parents what kind of livestock were you rearing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.10477015658882, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She is younger than me she is about 22years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which activities do you engage yourselves in order to earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Livestock rearing; we rear cattle, goats and chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about when you were living with your parents what kind of livestock were you rearing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cattle and goats."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about chicken? I was told in the past Maasai were not rearing chicken is that so?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2275223962097999, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Livestock rearing; we rear cattle, goats and chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about when you were living with your parents what kind of livestock were you rearing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cattle and goats."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about chicken? I was told in the past Maasai were not rearing chicken is that so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were there but for sale not for consumption."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you to eat chicken nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3639137735664442, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cattle and goats."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about chicken? I was told in the past Maasai were not rearing chicken is that so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were there but for sale not for consumption."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you to eat chicken nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know may be people are changing I thinks we are somehow enlightened because nowadays were eating eggs, chicken we even sell chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that made you change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.404348637296049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were there but for sale not for consumption."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you to eat chicken nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know may be people are changing I thinks we are somehow enlightened because nowadays were eating eggs, chicken we even sell chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that made you change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be because we interact with Swahili people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any difference in your lifestyle nowadays as compared with the past when you were living with your parents?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.44927626366227663, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know may be people are changing I thinks we are somehow enlightened because nowadays were eating eggs, chicken we even sell chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that made you change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be because we interact with Swahili people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any difference in your lifestyle nowadays as compared with the past when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there is, because when I was living with my parent I was a child depending on my parent but now I am a mother with children who depend on me so my responsibilities has increased."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any side affects you got from these changes in your lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4991958485136407, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be because we interact with Swahili people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any difference in your lifestyle nowadays as compared with the past when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there is, because when I was living with my parent I was a child depending on my parent but now I am a mother with children who depend on me so my responsibilities has increased."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any side affects you got from these changes in your lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No there is no any bad effect?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about benefits?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5546620539040452, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there is, because when I was living with my parent I was a child depending on my parent but now I am a mother with children who depend on me so my responsibilities has increased."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any side affects you got from these changes in your lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No there is no any bad effect?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about benefits?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are so many benefits, the fact that you’re living in your house with your husband and children, you have your own cows and goats, you can do your own things without depending on your parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the duties and responsibilities of men and women in your household starting with men?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6162911710044947, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No there is no any bad effect?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about benefits?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are so many benefits, the fact that you’re living in your house with your husband and children, you have your own cows and goats, you can do your own things without depending on your parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the duties and responsibilities of men and women in your household starting with men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men main responsibilities is to provide for the family so he must work and our main source of income is selling of livestock so he we will sell the cow or goats so as to cater for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are the duties and responsibilities of women in your household, now that you are two what are your responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6847679677827718, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are so many benefits, the fact that you’re living in your house with your husband and children, you have your own cows and goats, you can do your own things without depending on your parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the duties and responsibilities of men and women in your household starting with men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men main responsibilities is to provide for the family so he must work and our main source of income is selling of livestock so he we will sell the cow or goats so as to cater for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are the duties and responsibilities of women in your household, now that you are two what are your responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Household chores like washing dishes, cooking, feeding and bathing our children, fetching water and firewood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think lifestyle changes have caused differences in the duties and responsibilities of women of nowadays as compared to responsibilities of women in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7608532975364131, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men main responsibilities is to provide for the family so he must work and our main source of income is selling of livestock so he we will sell the cow or goats so as to cater for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are the duties and responsibilities of women in your household, now that you are two what are your responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Household chores like washing dishes, cooking, feeding and bathing our children, fetching water and firewood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think lifestyle changes have caused differences in the duties and responsibilities of women of nowadays as compared to responsibilities of women in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Men are any difference on duties and responsibilities of men of nowadays and in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8453925528182368, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Household chores like washing dishes, cooking, feeding and bathing our children, fetching water and firewood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think lifestyle changes have caused differences in the duties and responsibilities of women of nowadays as compared to responsibilities of women in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Men are any difference on duties and responsibilities of men of nowadays and in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the there is no differences."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Most of people in Mela are now involved in farming are your household also involved in farming?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9393250586869297, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Men are any difference on duties and responsibilities of men of nowadays and in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the there is no differences."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Most of people in Mela are now involved in farming are your household also involved in farming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we are growing Maize, vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me earlier that you were not farming but now you do farming, is there any benefit you got out of these lifestyle changes."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0436945096521442, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the there is no differences."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Most of people in Mela are now involved in farming are your household also involved in farming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we are growing Maize, vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me earlier that you were not farming but now you do farming, is there any benefit you got out of these lifestyle changes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, before we were buying food but now we grow our own food so it is a benefit to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many children do you have?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.1596605662801602, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we are growing Maize, vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me earlier that you were not farming but now you do farming, is there any benefit you got out of these lifestyle changes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, before we were buying food but now we grow our own food so it is a benefit to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many children do you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how old is your first child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.17740062920017793, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, before we were buying food but now we grow our own food so it is a benefit to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many children do you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how old is your first child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is 20 years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are his duties and responsibilities here at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.19711181022241991, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how old is your first child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is 20 years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are his duties and responsibilities here at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is still in school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are his duties here at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.21901312246935545, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is 20 years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are his duties and responsibilities here at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is still in school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are his duties here at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh may be my husband will tell him to go and look after the cattle when he is available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, do you have a daughter."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2433479138548394, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is still in school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are his duties here at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh may be my husband will tell him to go and look after the cattle when he is available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, do you have a daughter."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and what about your co-wife does she have a daughter?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.27038657094982155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh may be my husband will tell him to go and look after the cattle when he is available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, do you have a daughter."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and what about your co-wife does she have a daughter?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes but she is still young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother when we were here before we were told nowadays people of Mela changed the food they eat these days they eat fish, chicken, eggs and even chips enriched with eggs and the way they prepare the food has also changed nowadays they fry most of the food unlike in the past were most of the food were boiled so mother I would like to know if you have seen or experienced these changes in the way food is prepared, or changes on the feeding habits or changes on the types of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3004295232775795, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and what about your co-wife does she have a daughter?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes but she is still young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother when we were here before we were told nowadays people of Mela changed the food they eat these days they eat fish, chicken, eggs and even chips enriched with eggs and the way they prepare the food has also changed nowadays they fry most of the food unlike in the past were most of the food were boiled so mother I would like to know if you have seen or experienced these changes in the way food is prepared, or changes on the feeding habits or changes on the types of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are changes, in the past we used to boil meat or vegetables everything was boiled but nowadays we know how to fry meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the reasons for these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.33381058141953274, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes but she is still young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother when we were here before we were told nowadays people of Mela changed the food they eat these days they eat fish, chicken, eggs and even chips enriched with eggs and the way they prepare the food has also changed nowadays they fry most of the food unlike in the past were most of the food were boiled so mother I would like to know if you have seen or experienced these changes in the way food is prepared, or changes on the feeding habits or changes on the types of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are changes, in the past we used to boil meat or vegetables everything was boiled but nowadays we know how to fry meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the reasons for these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we are enlightened we know God, we pray and you know the word of God open up your mind,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from knowing God what else has changes you’re eating lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.37090064602170303, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are changes, in the past we used to boil meat or vegetables everything was boiled but nowadays we know how to fry meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the reasons for these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we are enlightened we know God, we pray and you know the word of God open up your mind,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from knowing God what else has changes you’re eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think interaction with of other tribes can contribute to the changes in your eating lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.41211182891300335, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we are enlightened we know God, we pray and you know the word of God open up your mind,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from knowing God what else has changes you’re eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think interaction with of other tribes can contribute to the changes in your eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because nowadays we are interacting with Swahili people?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what have you learnt from Swahili people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.45790203212555924, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think interaction with of other tribes can contribute to the changes in your eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because nowadays we are interacting with Swahili people?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what have you learnt from Swahili people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have learnt how to prepare good food, eating variety of food, hygiene."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of food do you think it has contributed to the changes of your eating lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5087800356950658, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because nowadays we are interacting with Swahili people?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what have you learnt from Swahili people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have learnt how to prepare good food, eating variety of food, hygiene."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of food do you think it has contributed to the changes of your eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about price of food do you think it has contributed to the changes of your eating lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5653111507722953, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have learnt how to prepare good food, eating variety of food, hygiene."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of food do you think it has contributed to the changes of your eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about price of food do you think it has contributed to the changes of your eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of firewood may be?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6281235008581059, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about price of food do you think it has contributed to the changes of your eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of firewood may be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother you have mentioned so many reasons including religion, interaction with other tribes, and availability of food so which among these reasons is the first one?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6979150009534509, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of firewood may be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother you have mentioned so many reasons including religion, interaction with other tribes, and availability of food so which among these reasons is the first one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think education and drought also contribute to these changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay Mother, among religion, education, drought, and interaction with other tribe which is the major reason that contribute to the changes in your eating lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7754611121705011, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother you have mentioned so many reasons including religion, interaction with other tribes, and availability of food so which among these reasons is the first one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think education and drought also contribute to these changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay Mother, among religion, education, drought, and interaction with other tribe which is the major reason that contribute to the changes in your eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affected you and your family: starting with men, a male child, you and a girl child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8616234579672234, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think education and drought also contribute to these changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay Mother, among religion, education, drought, and interaction with other tribe which is the major reason that contribute to the changes in your eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affected you and your family: starting with men, a male child, you and a girl child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are no changes that had occurred?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9573593977413594, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affected you and your family: starting with men, a male child, you and a girl child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are no changes that had occurred?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about low production of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.063732664157066, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are no changes that had occurred?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about low production of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Low production of milk has affected us you know we like taking milk so nowadays we do not have enough milk for our children and also adults, you know our children even if they have ugali with vegetable they will request for milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how has your traditions and culture affected with these changes in the eating lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1819251823967398, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about low production of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Low production of milk has affected us you know we like taking milk so nowadays we do not have enough milk for our children and also adults, you know our children even if they have ugali with vegetable they will request for milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how has your traditions and culture affected with these changes in the eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has not affected us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the benefits that you got out of these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3132502026630442, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Low production of milk has affected us you know we like taking milk so nowadays we do not have enough milk for our children and also adults, you know our children even if they have ugali with vegetable they will request for milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how has your traditions and culture affected with these changes in the eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has not affected us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the benefits that you got out of these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays you eat food and you feel satisfied."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food you eat and feel satisfied?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4591668918478269, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has not affected us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the benefits that you got out of these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays you eat food and you feel satisfied."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food you eat and feel satisfied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like rice and meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the past were you eating rice and meat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6212965464975855, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays you eat food and you feel satisfied."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food you eat and feel satisfied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like rice and meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the past were you eating rice and meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes were eating meats but not rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know if milk is important to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8014406072195395, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like rice and meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the past were you eating rice and meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes were eating meats but not rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know if milk is important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it important?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8904895635772659, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes were eating meats but not rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know if milk is important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because when you eat ugali with fresh milk or fermented milk you get filled up quickly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is milk important to your body?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9894328484191843, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because when you eat ugali with fresh milk or fermented milk you get filled up quickly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is milk important to your body?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because you will be healthy and boost your blood counts"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is milk important to your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0993698315768714, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because when you eat ugali with fresh milk or fermented milk you get filled up quickly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is milk important to your body?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because you will be healthy and boost your blood counts"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is milk important to your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because children are satisfied when they take milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know if milk is less important or important or very important to your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2215220350854126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because you will be healthy and boost your blood counts"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is milk important to your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because children are satisfied when they take milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know if milk is less important or important or very important to your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is very important to Maasai because if we do not take milk our body is weakened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we were here last February people told us that milk is not available as it is used to be and also there changes in price I would like to know what the cause’s unavailability of milk is?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3572467056504585, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because children are satisfied when they take milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know if milk is less important or important or very important to your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is very important to Maasai because if we do not take milk our body is weakened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we were here last February people told us that milk is not available as it is used to be and also there changes in price I would like to know what the cause’s unavailability of milk is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought is the reason why we do not have milk,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does drought causes unavailability of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.508051895167176, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is very important to Maasai because if we do not take milk our body is weakened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we were here last February people told us that milk is not available as it is used to be and also there changes in price I would like to know what the cause’s unavailability of milk is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought is the reason why we do not have milk,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does drought causes unavailability of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is not available during dry season because there is no pasture for cows to feed on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is another reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6756132168524176, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought is the reason why we do not have milk,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does drought causes unavailability of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is not available during dry season because there is no pasture for cows to feed on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is another reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "cows move to a far place looking for pastures so that makes us not to milk them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know who is responsible for buying food in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8617924631693528, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is not available during dry season because there is no pasture for cows to feed on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is another reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "cows move to a far place looking for pastures so that makes us not to milk them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know who is responsible for buying food in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is going to the market to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.068658292410392, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "cows move to a far place looking for pastures so that makes us not to milk them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know who is responsible for buying food in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is going to the market to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me (Mother)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what type of food do you normally buy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2985092137893246, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is going to the market to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me (Mother)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what type of food do you normally buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rice, vegetables, maize flour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is making decision on amount of money to be used to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.553899126432583, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me (Mother)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what type of food do you normally buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rice, vegetables, maize flour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is making decision on amount of money to be used to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else is involved?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8376656960362032, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rice, vegetables, maize flour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is making decision on amount of money to be used to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else is involved?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me (mother)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who has the final decision on the amount of money to be spent on foodstuff?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1529618844846703, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else is involved?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me (mother)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who has the final decision on the amount of money to be spent on foodstuff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food does your husband normally buy at the market?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5032909827607446, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me (mother)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who has the final decision on the amount of money to be spent on foodstuff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food does your husband normally buy at the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He buys maize and mill then then he brought flour home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about vegetables and beans, who normally make decision of buying them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.892545536400827, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food does your husband normally buy at the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He buys maize and mill then then he brought flour home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about vegetables and beans, who normally make decision of buying them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is my husband who gives me money to buy vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you compare the distance form your place to the market and your parents’ house to the market which one is far?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2139394848898077, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He buys maize and mill then then he brought flour home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about vegetables and beans, who normally make decision of buying them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is my husband who gives me money to buy vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you compare the distance form your place to the market and your parents’ house to the market which one is far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My parents’ house to the market is very far and those days we did not have transport like now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food were available those days but are not available in the market nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.571043872099786, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is my husband who gives me money to buy vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you compare the distance form your place to the market and your parents’ house to the market which one is far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My parents’ house to the market is very far and those days we did not have transport like now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food were available those days but are not available in the market nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cow fats were they available in the markets during those days?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.967826524555318, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My parents’ house to the market is very far and those days we did not have transport like now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food were available those days but are not available in the market nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cow fats were they available in the markets during those days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about ghee?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.408696138394798, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cow fats were they available in the markets during those days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about ghee?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like us to discuss about food preparation, which type of food do you prepare for your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.898551264883109, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about ghee?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like us to discuss about food preparation, which type of food do you prepare for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I prepare ugali, green vegetables and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about rice, cassava, bananas and potatoes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 5.442834738759009, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like us to discuss about food preparation, which type of food do you prepare for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I prepare ugali, green vegetables and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about rice, cassava, bananas and potatoes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we prepare cassava and have them with tea in the morning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that influences you to cook the type of food you cook for your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.714260820843344, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I prepare ugali, green vegetables and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about rice, cassava, bananas and potatoes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we prepare cassava and have them with tea in the morning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that influences you to cook the type of food you cook for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just decide to eat a particular food example you ate ugali yesterday then you may decide to eat rice today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else influences you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.015845356492604, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we prepare cassava and have them with tea in the morning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that influences you to cook the type of food you cook for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just decide to eat a particular food example you ate ugali yesterday then you may decide to eat rice today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else influences you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you can afford to buy the food you can prepare the food for your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is another reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.350939284991782, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just decide to eat a particular food example you ate ugali yesterday then you may decide to eat rice today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else influences you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you can afford to buy the food you can prepare the food for your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is another reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you have money you can buy the food you want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Between affordability and your decision to eat a particular food, what influences you most?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.723265872213091, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you can afford to buy the food you can prepare the food for your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is another reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you have money you can buy the food you want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Between affordability and your decision to eat a particular food, what influences you most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you feel like eating a particular food you buy and eat with your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about easiness of preparing that particular food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.136962080236768, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you have money you can buy the food you want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Between affordability and your decision to eat a particular food, what influences you most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you feel like eating a particular food you buy and eat with your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about easiness of preparing that particular food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, we have completed that part, we are coming to another part which is concerned with the strategies and ways of withstanding food shortage, have you ever experienced food shortage both when you were living with you parents and now you have your own home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.596624533596409, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you feel like eating a particular food you buy and eat with your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about easiness of preparing that particular food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, we have completed that part, we are coming to another part which is concerned with the strategies and ways of withstanding food shortage, have you ever experienced food shortage both when you were living with you parents and now you have your own home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.563733992094331, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was during dry season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh I do not remember the year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food was not available?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 3.9597044356603677, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was during dry season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh I do not remember the year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food was not available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even Ugali we were not eating every day, there are some days we did not have food so we used to drink milk and sleep."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which months was that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.066338261844853, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh I do not remember the year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food was not available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even Ugali we were not eating every day, there are some days we did not have food so we used to drink milk and sleep."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which months was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "September, October, November."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long did it last?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1848202909387253, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even Ugali we were not eating every day, there are some days we did not have food so we used to drink milk and sleep."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which months was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "September, October, November."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long did it last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not remember, it was the time I was living with my parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the entire Melela community did they also experience food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.316466989931917, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "September, October, November."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long did it last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not remember, it was the time I was living with my parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the entire Melela community did they also experience food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the main reason for the food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4627410999243522, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not remember, it was the time I was living with my parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the entire Melela community did they also experience food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the main reason for the food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was drought; the rains did not come on time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did your family overcame the situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6252678888048357, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the main reason for the food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was drought; the rains did not come on time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did your family overcame the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father used to go out there and seeking for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was he doing so that he can get food for the family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8058532097831508, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was drought; the rains did not come on time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did your family overcame the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father used to go out there and seeking for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was he doing so that he can get food for the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He used to sell cows and buy food for the family he did not have any other job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about slaughtering a cow so that you can get food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.006503566425723, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father used to go out there and seeking for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was he doing so that he can get food for the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He used to sell cows and buy food for the family he did not have any other job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about slaughtering a cow so that you can get food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2294484071396923, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He used to sell cows and buy food for the family he did not have any other job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about slaughtering a cow so that you can get food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Few times: it was once in a while."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when there was a food shortage, how was your feeding like both children and adult in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.47716489682188, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Few times: it was once in a while."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when there was a food shortage, how was your feeding like both children and adult in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children were eating in the morning and afternoon: in the morning they were having milk then in the afternoon they eat ugali with milk and as for adult they were having fermented milk in the morning and also ugali in the afternoon"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During dry season when there was a food shortage how was you feed like; did you eat less or it was just normal as compare when there is plenty of food."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7524054409132, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Few times: it was once in a while."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when there was a food shortage, how was your feeding like both children and adult in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children were eating in the morning and afternoon: in the morning they were having milk then in the afternoon they eat ugali with milk and as for adult they were having fermented milk in the morning and also ugali in the afternoon"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During dry season when there was a food shortage how was you feed like; did you eat less or it was just normal as compare when there is plenty of food."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When there is plenty of food they eat thrice a day and when there is shortage of food they eat twice a day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the main victim of hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.398031408534815, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When there is plenty of food they eat thrice a day and when there is shortage of food they eat twice a day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the main victim of hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why him?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because he is the one who is providing food for us so he must work hard so that he can be able to provide food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you able to borrow food from your neighbour?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.775590453927572, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why him?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because he is the one who is providing food for us so he must work hard so that he can be able to provide food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you able to borrow food from your neighbour?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we used to do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food did you normally borrow?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.083989393252858, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because he is the one who is providing food for us so he must work hard so that he can be able to provide food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you able to borrow food from your neighbour?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we used to do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food did you normally borrow?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize flour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about going to the forest to pick wild vegetable?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4266548813920648, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we used to do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food did you normally borrow?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize flour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about going to the forest to pick wild vegetable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was your husband working in exchange of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8073943126578498, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize flour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about going to the forest to pick wild vegetable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was your husband working in exchange of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about exchanging food with other people example you exchange a cow with maize flour?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.230438125175389, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was your husband working in exchange of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about exchanging food with other people example you exchange a cow with maize flour?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And now that you have your own home when did you experience food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:255", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.0005408952782564, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And now that you have your own home when did you experience food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When it was dry season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year (2016)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From which month did you experience food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:257", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.1117121058647292, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When it was dry season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year (2016)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From which month did you experience food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From January February and March."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long did it last?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12412456207192137, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year (2016)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From which month did you experience food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From January February and March."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long did it last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Six months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the reason for food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:261", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13791618007991263, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From January February and March."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long did it last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Six months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the reason for food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rain did not fall on time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is another reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:263", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1532402000887918, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Six months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the reason for food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rain did not fall on time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is another reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, It is only that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what measures did you take to overcome hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:265", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.17026688898754644, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rain did not fall on time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is another reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, It is only that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what measures did you take to overcome hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only my husband who sold the cows and bought maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me your children are in school, do you think that is the reason for taking them to school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:267", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.18918543220838493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, It is only that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what measures did you take to overcome hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only my husband who sold the cows and bought maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me your children are in school, do you think that is the reason for taking them to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you doing small businesses so as to earn money to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:269", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.21020603578709438, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only my husband who sold the cows and bought maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me your children are in school, do you think that is the reason for taking them to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you doing small businesses so as to earn money to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What measures did you take to overcome hunger now as compared to when you were living with your parents?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:271", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2335622619856604, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you doing small businesses so as to earn money to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What measures did you take to overcome hunger now as compared to when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is different, at least now you can get food not like when I was in my father’s house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am talking about measures that you took to get food you told me last year you sold cows to buy maize so what did you do then to overcame hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:273", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25951362442851156, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What measures did you take to overcome hunger now as compared to when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is different, at least now you can get food not like when I was in my father’s house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am talking about measures that you took to get food you told me last year you sold cows to buy maize so what did you do then to overcame hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you Mother for your good answer."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:275", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28834847158723503, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is different, at least now you can get food not like when I was in my father’s house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am talking about measures that you took to get food you told me last year you sold cows to buy maize so what did you do then to overcame hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you Mother for your good answer."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thank you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, what do you know about nutrition, eating lifestyle and good health, how has people of Mela get to know about the nutrition, healthy eating lifestyle so as to have good health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:277", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.32038719065248333, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you Mother for your good answer."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thank you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, what do you know about nutrition, eating lifestyle and good health, how has people of Mela get to know about the nutrition, healthy eating lifestyle so as to have good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not heard of any?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhh, you have not heard of nutrition, good health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.35598576739164817, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thank you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, what do you know about nutrition, eating lifestyle and good health, how has people of Mela get to know about the nutrition, healthy eating lifestyle so as to have good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not heard of any?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhh, you have not heard of nutrition, good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever gone to the clinic when you were pregnant and after delivery of the baby?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:281", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.39553974154627575, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not heard of any?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhh, you have not heard of nutrition, good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever gone to the clinic when you were pregnant and after delivery of the baby?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they told us so many things including eating healthy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from clinic were else did you hear about nutrition, healthy lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:283", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4394886017180842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever gone to the clinic when you were pregnant and after delivery of the baby?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they told us so many things including eating healthy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from clinic were else did you hear about nutrition, healthy lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any other place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about schools?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:285", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4883206685756491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they told us so many things including eating healthy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from clinic were else did you hear about nutrition, healthy lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any other place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about schools?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They teach our children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did your children told you about what they were taught in school and sometimes advice you to cook a certain food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:287", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5425785206396101, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any other place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about schools?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They teach our children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did your children told you about what they were taught in school and sometimes advice you to cook a certain food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes they say sometimes they forgot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your family where did you get the information about nutrition and healthy eating lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:289", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6028650229329001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They teach our children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did your children told you about what they were taught in school and sometimes advice you to cook a certain food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes they say sometimes they forgot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your family where did you get the information about nutrition and healthy eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have heard from people who come to our homes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did they tell you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:291", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6698500254810001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes they say sometimes they forgot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your family where did you get the information about nutrition and healthy eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have heard from people who come to our homes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did they tell you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They ask what we normally eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what do they do or say?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:293", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7442778060900002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have heard from people who come to our homes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did they tell you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They ask what we normally eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what do they do or say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean they do not advice you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:295", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8269753401000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They ask what we normally eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what do they do or say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean they do not advice you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They ask you and leave they did not tell us anything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The information what you have received so far are they useful to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:297", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9188614890000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean they do not advice you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They ask you and leave they did not tell us anything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The information what you have received so far are they useful to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is important because you now I know if you eat good food and if you eat variety of food you will be healthy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you hear that information?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:299", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0209572100000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They ask you and leave they did not tell us anything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The information what you have received so far are they useful to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is important because you now I know if you eat good food and if you eat variety of food you will be healthy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you hear that information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From people who normally comes to talk to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think this information is useful to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:303", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2604410000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From people who normally comes to talk to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think this information is useful to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we know if you eat this kind of food is good for your health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can the information reach out to you, how do you think it should be conducted so that people of Mela can get this information about nutrition and healthy eating lifestyle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:305", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.40049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we know if you eat this kind of food is good for your health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can the information reach out to you, how do you think it should be conducted so that people of Mela can get this information about nutrition and healthy eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be they should conduct seminar and teach us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is supposed to conduct the seminar so that all of you can get the knowledge, do you think village chairman should conduct the seminar or Ward executive officer or village secretary?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:307", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5561, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we know if you eat this kind of food is good for your health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can the information reach out to you, how do you think it should be conducted so that people of Mela can get this information about nutrition and healthy eating lifestyle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be they should conduct seminar and teach us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is supposed to conduct the seminar so that all of you can get the knowledge, do you think village chairman should conduct the seminar or Ward executive officer or village secretary?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even Ward executive officer we will appreciate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you’re Maasai Leader?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:309", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.729, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be they should conduct seminar and teach us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is supposed to conduct the seminar so that all of you can get the knowledge, do you think village chairman should conduct the seminar or Ward executive officer or village secretary?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even Ward executive officer we will appreciate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you’re Maasai Leader?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is okay even him?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Between your Maasai leader and Ward executive officer who you will all be comfortable to deliver the information."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:311", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even Ward executive officer we will appreciate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about you’re Maasai Leader?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is okay even him?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Between your Maasai leader and Ward executive officer who you will all be comfortable to deliver the information."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think our Maasai leader will be good because he will teach us both in Kiswahili and in Maasai language so it will be good because most of us will understand him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about health centres?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:313", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is okay even him?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Between your Maasai leader and Ward executive officer who you will all be comfortable to deliver the information."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think our Maasai leader will be good because he will teach us both in Kiswahili and in Maasai language so it will be good because most of us will understand him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about health centres?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even there is okay because if you go to the hospital you will get the information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if we broadcast it in the radios?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:315", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think our Maasai leader will be good because he will teach us both in Kiswahili and in Maasai language so it will be good because most of us will understand him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about health centres?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even there is okay because if you go to the hospital you will get the information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if we broadcast it in the radios?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is okay because we normally listen to the news"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what of churches?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:317", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even there is okay because if you go to the hospital you will get the information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if we broadcast it in the radios?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is okay because we normally listen to the news"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what of churches?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even Churches we will get the information because we go to church every Sundays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So between churches, health centres, and radios where can we do it so that most of you can get information?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:319", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is okay because we normally listen to the news"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what of churches?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even Churches we will get the information because we go to church every Sundays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So between churches, health centres, and radios where can we do it so that most of you can get information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Health centres."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about churches?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:321", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even Churches we will get the information because we go to church every Sundays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So between churches, health centres, and radios where can we do it so that most of you can get information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Health centres."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about churches?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, churches."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Between churches and your Maasai leaders whom do you trust will deliver the information?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00033:323", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Health centres."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about churches?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, churches."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Between churches and your Maasai leaders whom do you trust will deliver the information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pastor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you very much for your time we have to the end of our interview."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.399669424666051, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am Doctor ..., 30 years old, Bachelor of Science in Medicine and Surgery and I work with Wakiso district Local Government."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you train from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Kampala international University."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. How long have you been qualified?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Its now two years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long have you been working in Wakiso Health Center IV?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.99963269407339, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Kampala international University."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. How long have you been qualified?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Its now two years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long have you been working in Wakiso Health Center IV?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have been here for almost a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are a government worker?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.666258548970433, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Its now two years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long have you been working in Wakiso Health Center IV?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have been here for almost a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are a government worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have been working at Wakiso for almost a year!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.406953943300481, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have been here for almost a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are a government worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have been working at Wakiso for almost a year!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the demographics of the patients you see in practice and the commonest illnesses."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 7.118837714778312, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have been working at Wakiso for almost a year!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the demographics of the patients you see in practice and the commonest illnesses."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We see patients from neonates up to old ages but we commonly see patients with upper respiratory tract infections, infections which cause fevers like malaria and skin infections normally in OPD. But we have certain illnesses that are separated, like non-communicable diseases like hypertensions and diabetes on different days. We have an HIV clinic where we see clients and we have a post-operative ward where we do Caesarian sections. So we do most of the cases and those we can’t isolate, we refer to higher places where they can get better specialists."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "These patients that you see, tell me about their age groups; what specific conditions are common in different age groups? For example, 0-5, the young ones and teenagers. What common illnesses are in the different age groups?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2431530164203464, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the demographics of the patients you see in practice and the commonest illnesses."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We see patients from neonates up to old ages but we commonly see patients with upper respiratory tract infections, infections which cause fevers like malaria and skin infections normally in OPD. But we have certain illnesses that are separated, like non-communicable diseases like hypertensions and diabetes on different days. We have an HIV clinic where we see clients and we have a post-operative ward where we do Caesarian sections. So we do most of the cases and those we can’t isolate, we refer to higher places where they can get better specialists."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "These patients that you see, tell me about their age groups; what specific conditions are common in different age groups? For example, 0-5, the young ones and teenagers. What common illnesses are in the different age groups?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Commonly, if I start with the neonates, it is normally neonatal sepsis. Then outside neonatal period, 1 and 2 months to 5 years, they commonly present with upper respiratory tract infections, pneumonias, cough, and then sometimes with other fever conditions like malaria and febrile convulsions. Then from around 6 years to 15, they normally also present with upper respiratory infections, cough sometimes those fevers, flu and malaria. Then the adults like I told you, we have many with HIV, so there’s no separate group of ages. With hypertension, our patients are always above four years and we also have a few with diabetic children. I think we have one day a week where we carry out DM clinics; we can have one or two in a week that we see, so we find that most of the hypertensives are about 40 years. HAART clinic is general, then as I told you, the labor suite are normally for mothers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. Tell me a little bit about your training in Rheumatic Heart Disease; have you received any training in school about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5347568103954894, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Commonly, if I start with the neonates, it is normally neonatal sepsis. Then outside neonatal period, 1 and 2 months to 5 years, they commonly present with upper respiratory tract infections, pneumonias, cough, and then sometimes with other fever conditions like malaria and febrile convulsions. Then from around 6 years to 15, they normally also present with upper respiratory infections, cough sometimes those fevers, flu and malaria. Then the adults like I told you, we have many with HIV, so there’s no separate group of ages. With hypertension, our patients are always above four years and we also have a few with diabetic children. I think we have one day a week where we carry out DM clinics; we can have one or two in a week that we see, so we find that most of the hypertensives are about 40 years. HAART clinic is general, then as I told you, the labor suite are normally for mothers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much. Tell me a little bit about your training in Rheumatic Heart Disease; have you received any training in school about Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was not specific, just the normal lectures. There wasn't anything specific about it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, was it like a course unit or it was like when you do a problem based learning where they give you a topic to research on? How was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some topics I can’t remember what we did for that, but I do remember we did problem-based and others in lecture, but I do recall we covered that although am not sure if it was under problem-based or lecture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So since you graduated, have you received any training in Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8947614943154187, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some topics I can’t remember what we did for that, but I do remember we did problem-based and others in lecture, but I do recall we covered that although am not sure if it was under problem-based or lecture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So since you graduated, have you received any training in Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You haven’t!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We haven’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so in Wakiso Health Center, how many patients with Rheumatic Heart Disease do you often see in maybe a day, week or month?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.105290549239354, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You haven’t!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We haven’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so in Wakiso Health Center, how many patients with Rheumatic Heart Disease do you often see in maybe a day, week or month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Particularly for the time I have been here I have not diagnosed any patient with Rheumatic Heart Disease. It’s not that I have not seen, I just can’t confirm. But it takes time to diagnose that kind of condition because sometimes you feel that someone has heart anomalies, irregular heartbeats but then you have to refer that patient for confirmatory; you can’t just diagnose that this is Rheumatic Heart Disease because maybe of some abnormalities like irregular heartbeat. There are other things you have to investigate and confirm to get the diagnosis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In training where you able to see any during your training?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5991241348633998, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Particularly for the time I have been here I have not diagnosed any patient with Rheumatic Heart Disease. It’s not that I have not seen, I just can’t confirm. But it takes time to diagnose that kind of condition because sometimes you feel that someone has heart anomalies, irregular heartbeats but then you have to refer that patient for confirmatory; you can’t just diagnose that this is Rheumatic Heart Disease because maybe of some abnormalities like irregular heartbeat. There are other things you have to investigate and confirm to get the diagnosis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In training where you able to see any during your training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My internship."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You saw but since you came in Wakiso you haven’t seen any specifically?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8879157054037776, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My internship."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You saw but since you came in Wakiso you haven’t seen any specifically?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I have not seen to confirm to myself that without reasonable doubt this is Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that they have the symptoms but you have not yet confirmed that they have Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2087952282264194, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My internship."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You saw but since you came in Wakiso you haven’t seen any specifically?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I have not seen to confirm to myself that without reasonable doubt this is Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that they have the symptoms but you have not yet confirmed that they have Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are those in-patients or out-patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.565328031362688, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I have not seen to confirm to myself that without reasonable doubt this is Rheumatic Heart Disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that they have the symptoms but you have not yet confirmed that they have Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are those in-patients or out-patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Out-patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are usually out-patients! Okay, thank you so much. Now, as a medical officer what is your understanding on the causes of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.9614755904029866, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are those in-patients or out-patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Out-patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are usually out-patients! Okay, thank you so much. Now, as a medical officer what is your understanding on the causes of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I understand Rheumatic Heart Disease; it mainly starts with infections in the group A Beta-hemolytic streptococci which affects the upper respiratory infections, then leads to auto-immune reactions which affects the heart which then causes valvular problems, which are micro and then you get micro deficiency, then stenosis, and then end up with heart failure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. You as a health officer, are you aware of the link between sore throat and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.401639544892207, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Out-patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are usually out-patients! Okay, thank you so much. Now, as a medical officer what is your understanding on the causes of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I understand Rheumatic Heart Disease; it mainly starts with infections in the group A Beta-hemolytic streptococci which affects the upper respiratory infections, then leads to auto-immune reactions which affects the heart which then causes valvular problems, which are micro and then you get micro deficiency, then stenosis, and then end up with heart failure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. You as a health officer, are you aware of the link between sore throat and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes please."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you know that link?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.890710605435785, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I understand Rheumatic Heart Disease; it mainly starts with infections in the group A Beta-hemolytic streptococci which affects the upper respiratory infections, then leads to auto-immune reactions which affects the heart which then causes valvular problems, which are micro and then you get micro deficiency, then stenosis, and then end up with heart failure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. You as a health officer, are you aware of the link between sore throat and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes please."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you know that link?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the group A beta streptococci I have talked about will affect the upper respiratory tract infarctions so the body in means of trying to eliminate the bacteria, it will also cause an effect on the valves of the heart. So it will be an auto-immune reaction because the body will be the one destroying the valves as it tries to destroy bacteria from the throat so then you get problems from the valves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you very much. So, what were you taught can be done to prevent Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.037914327698501, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the group A beta streptococci I have talked about will affect the upper respiratory tract infarctions so the body in means of trying to eliminate the bacteria, it will also cause an effect on the valves of the heart. So it will be an auto-immune reaction because the body will be the one destroying the valves as it tries to destroy bacteria from the throat so then you get problems from the valves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you very much. So, what were you taught can be done to prevent Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, me what I remember is, one; treating the upper respiratory infections as fast as you can by giving proper diagnosis and giving antibiotics to patients. Then after that diagnosis of Rheumatic Heart Disease, maybe we can give them prophylaxis antibiotics like pen-v, like penicillin-V to the patients for a specific period of time depending on the stage of presentation of the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s what I know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so according to you, what can be done to treat? What were you taught can be done to treat RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.486571475220557, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, me what I remember is, one; treating the upper respiratory infections as fast as you can by giving proper diagnosis and giving antibiotics to patients. Then after that diagnosis of Rheumatic Heart Disease, maybe we can give them prophylaxis antibiotics like pen-v, like penicillin-V to the patients for a specific period of time depending on the stage of presentation of the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s what I know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so according to you, what can be done to treat? What were you taught can be done to treat RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First all treatment depends on presentation of the patient after doing your confirmatory tests, so you have to treat to eliminate the bacteria itself. For that one, you give penicillin-V and then also benzyl penicillin can be a start dose. Then if someone has presented with urethritis, then you can give anti-inflammatory like acetyl salicylic acid and then that’s when you can give the dose of steroids. Then if it presents with pericarditis, then we follow the protocol of heart failure and manage according to what the patient has presented. Then if someone has presented with St. Peters rash, then you give anticonvulsants like sodium vulgate. If it fails, you can go to Pen-do and then give preventive measures thereafter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now are there aspects of Rheumatic Heart Disease management in which you need more training?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.98507941691173, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s what I know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so according to you, what can be done to treat? What were you taught can be done to treat RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First all treatment depends on presentation of the patient after doing your confirmatory tests, so you have to treat to eliminate the bacteria itself. For that one, you give penicillin-V and then also benzyl penicillin can be a start dose. Then if someone has presented with urethritis, then you can give anti-inflammatory like acetyl salicylic acid and then that’s when you can give the dose of steroids. Then if it presents with pericarditis, then we follow the protocol of heart failure and manage according to what the patient has presented. Then if someone has presented with St. Peters rash, then you give anticonvulsants like sodium vulgate. If it fails, you can go to Pen-do and then give preventive measures thereafter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now are there aspects of Rheumatic Heart Disease management in which you need more training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which ones?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.538977129901922, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First all treatment depends on presentation of the patient after doing your confirmatory tests, so you have to treat to eliminate the bacteria itself. For that one, you give penicillin-V and then also benzyl penicillin can be a start dose. Then if someone has presented with urethritis, then you can give anti-inflammatory like acetyl salicylic acid and then that’s when you can give the dose of steroids. Then if it presents with pericarditis, then we follow the protocol of heart failure and manage according to what the patient has presented. Then if someone has presented with St. Peters rash, then you give anticonvulsants like sodium vulgate. If it fails, you can go to Pen-do and then give preventive measures thereafter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now are there aspects of Rheumatic Heart Disease management in which you need more training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One; diagnosis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Explain diagnosis. Which specific part of diagnosis do you want training in?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.154419033224358, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One; diagnosis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Explain diagnosis. Which specific part of diagnosis do you want training in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In diagnosis, some of the symptoms we might be talking about them but we have never appreciated them to the patients, and sometimes you may see them but not know that they are the symptoms we are talking about, like the St. Peters rash. I have seen some in videos but not on a patient myself, so if you get maybe a patient and you look at it, because you may be seeing them on a patient but you don’t know that it’s what you have been reading about. Maybe the skin presentation; I have also never appreciated it on a patient. I mainly base on the history and yet sometimes patients have even forgotten if they had an upper respiratory infection. I base on history like heart irregularity and then I send for more investigations. So at least if I get more training in those symptoms of the patients, then it can be good for me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other diagnostics do you need training in to help you as a health officer?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.838243370249287, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One; diagnosis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Explain diagnosis. Which specific part of diagnosis do you want training in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In diagnosis, some of the symptoms we might be talking about them but we have never appreciated them to the patients, and sometimes you may see them but not know that they are the symptoms we are talking about, like the St. Peters rash. I have seen some in videos but not on a patient myself, so if you get maybe a patient and you look at it, because you may be seeing them on a patient but you don’t know that it’s what you have been reading about. Maybe the skin presentation; I have also never appreciated it on a patient. I mainly base on the history and yet sometimes patients have even forgotten if they had an upper respiratory infection. I base on history like heart irregularity and then I send for more investigations. So at least if I get more training in those symptoms of the patients, then it can be good for me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other diagnostics do you need training in to help you as a health officer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Interpretation of the ECG. I know a bit but I need more on how to interpret those electro-cardiograms so that I can relate them to the presentation of the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else, maybe about the x-ray or echo-cardiography?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.486937078054763, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In diagnosis, some of the symptoms we might be talking about them but we have never appreciated them to the patients, and sometimes you may see them but not know that they are the symptoms we are talking about, like the St. Peters rash. I have seen some in videos but not on a patient myself, so if you get maybe a patient and you look at it, because you may be seeing them on a patient but you don’t know that it’s what you have been reading about. Maybe the skin presentation; I have also never appreciated it on a patient. I mainly base on the history and yet sometimes patients have even forgotten if they had an upper respiratory infection. I base on history like heart irregularity and then I send for more investigations. So at least if I get more training in those symptoms of the patients, then it can be good for me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other diagnostics do you need training in to help you as a health officer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Interpretation of the ECG. I know a bit but I need more on how to interpret those electro-cardiograms so that I can relate them to the presentation of the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else, maybe about the x-ray or echo-cardiography?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes maybe just x-ray you can. They all present with cardio-maggoty because I know people who have been in this field; the people of heart institute know features which can help you to interpret. So at least if someone can equip you with the skills on how to diagnose a person, then it can be easier for you to do others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so according to you, what is your understanding on the long term prognosis of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.786342071672546, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes maybe just x-ray you can. They all present with cardio-maggoty because I know people who have been in this field; the people of heart institute know features which can help you to interpret. So at least if someone can equip you with the skills on how to diagnose a person, then it can be easier for you to do others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so according to you, what is your understanding on the long term prognosis of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The long term prognosis, I think sometimes it’s poor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why poor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a poor, one; because sometimes when you have Rheumatic Heart Disease, you end up with heart failure and the prognosis of heart failure, we know it’s almost around five years depending on the stage of heart failure, which is sometimes not good. Two; most times we the health workers may not give the proper care and advice because you find that they are supposed to take prophylaxis, but you find most them are not taking prophylaxis as they are supposed to. Sometimes it’s on patients; you tell them to come for injections but ... because, I remember during my internship in Masaka you could tell the patient to come back for injections but wouldn’t come back or even come back after two years only to tell you (by the nurses), \"we told that patient to come for injections but now he has come back after two years with heart failure!” So probably it can be the disease itself and sometimes we health workers can contribute due to lack of knowledge. Then it can be patient-based if he has not done what he is supposed to do or take advice seriously."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.143632187250057, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is a poor, one; because sometimes when you have Rheumatic Heart Disease, you end up with heart failure and the prognosis of heart failure, we know it’s almost around five years depending on the stage of heart failure, which is sometimes not good. Two; most times we the health workers may not give the proper care and advice because you find that they are supposed to take prophylaxis, but you find most them are not taking prophylaxis as they are supposed to. Sometimes it’s on patients; you tell them to come for injections but ... because, I remember during my internship in Masaka you could tell the patient to come back for injections but wouldn’t come back or even come back after two years only to tell you (by the nurses), \"we told that patient to come for injections but now he has come back after two years with heart failure!” So probably it can be the disease itself and sometimes we health workers can contribute due to lack of knowledge. Then it can be patient-based if he has not done what he is supposed to do or take advice seriously."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, yeah I think if everything is done in the correct way, we can have a good diagnosis if we follow what we are supposed to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like, if you do early diagnosis of the patient, then initiate what you are supposed to do like counseling and prophylaxis of the anti-biotic you are supposed to give to the patient. I think we can try to stop the poor prognosis of the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now tell me about your encounters with patients with Rheumatic Heart Disease; that is, in training and at your work place. Do you remember the last patient you saw and how was that visit? How did this patient present?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.937369096944508, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, yeah I think if everything is done in the correct way, we can have a good diagnosis if we follow what we are supposed to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like, if you do early diagnosis of the patient, then initiate what you are supposed to do like counseling and prophylaxis of the anti-biotic you are supposed to give to the patient. I think we can try to stop the poor prognosis of the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now tell me about your encounters with patients with Rheumatic Heart Disease; that is, in training and at your work place. Do you remember the last patient you saw and how was that visit? How did this patient present?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The last patient I saw with rheumatic was during my internship. That patient came with heart failure and I think that’s what the patient was talking about were signs of heart failure; difficulty in breathing, swelling of the lower limbs and arthritis. Otherwise, we were just managing it as a heart failure by that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, the patient already had Rheumatic Heart Disease, so you were treating the complications!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 8.819298996605008, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like, if you do early diagnosis of the patient, then initiate what you are supposed to do like counseling and prophylaxis of the anti-biotic you are supposed to give to the patient. I think we can try to stop the poor prognosis of the patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now tell me about your encounters with patients with Rheumatic Heart Disease; that is, in training and at your work place. Do you remember the last patient you saw and how was that visit? How did this patient present?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The last patient I saw with rheumatic was during my internship. That patient came with heart failure and I think that’s what the patient was talking about were signs of heart failure; difficulty in breathing, swelling of the lower limbs and arthritis. Otherwise, we were just managing it as a heart failure by that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, the patient already had Rheumatic Heart Disease, so you were treating the complications!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you think has been the average age of those RHD patients you have been seeing? Where they working, in school or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.354776662894453, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The last patient I saw with rheumatic was during my internship. That patient came with heart failure and I think that’s what the patient was talking about were signs of heart failure; difficulty in breathing, swelling of the lower limbs and arthritis. Otherwise, we were just managing it as a heart failure by that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, the patient already had Rheumatic Heart Disease, so you were treating the complications!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you think has been the average age of those RHD patients you have been seeing? Where they working, in school or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t remember whether they were in school or not but at least the two patients I have properly seen that they have heart failure, because I have seen heart failure secondary to Rheumatic Heart Disease, both of them were less than twenty years old. One was around 15 years and the other girl was around 18 years, but less than twenty, around there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think those patients are generally aware of the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.949751847660504, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you think has been the average age of those RHD patients you have been seeing? Where they working, in school or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t remember whether they were in school or not but at least the two patients I have properly seen that they have heart failure, because I have seen heart failure secondary to Rheumatic Heart Disease, both of them were less than twenty years old. One was around 15 years and the other girl was around 18 years, but less than twenty, around there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think those patients are generally aware of the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think they are because even some health workers don’t know, so I don’t expect those patients to be aware."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you think the patients don’t know because the health workers are not aware?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.388613164067226, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t remember whether they were in school or not but at least the two patients I have properly seen that they have heart failure, because I have seen heart failure secondary to Rheumatic Heart Disease, both of them were less than twenty years old. One was around 15 years and the other girl was around 18 years, but less than twenty, around there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think those patients are generally aware of the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think they are because even some health workers don’t know, so I don’t expect those patients to be aware."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you think the patients don’t know because the health workers are not aware?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Because, most times like the way you see Uganda, they are not like those countries where patients read a lot. There are a few patients that can read a lot because it’s us who read and give that information to patients, so if you find that 30 of us are not aware, then you expect around 70% of patients are not aware. First, they should empower us the health workers and then we can empower the people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So just to remind me, what kind of symptoms do these patients describe when they come in? Those you saw, you told me they came with heart failure?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.876236848963584, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think they are because even some health workers don’t know, so I don’t expect those patients to be aware."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you think the patients don’t know because the health workers are not aware?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Because, most times like the way you see Uganda, they are not like those countries where patients read a lot. There are a few patients that can read a lot because it’s us who read and give that information to patients, so if you find that 30 of us are not aware, then you expect around 70% of patients are not aware. First, they should empower us the health workers and then we can empower the people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So just to remind me, what kind of symptoms do these patients describe when they come in? Those you saw, you told me they came with heart failure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Difficulty in breathing?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.418040943292871, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Because, most times like the way you see Uganda, they are not like those countries where patients read a lot. There are a few patients that can read a lot because it’s us who read and give that information to patients, so if you find that 30 of us are not aware, then you expect around 70% of patients are not aware. First, they should empower us the health workers and then we can empower the people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So just to remind me, what kind of symptoms do these patients describe when they come in? Those you saw, you told me they came with heart failure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Difficulty in breathing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Difficulty in breathing, Apnea, couldn’t sit on bed, swollen limbs, swelling, abdominal distension and arthritis. That’s what the patient would tell you but when you check, you get irregular heartbeats."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So according to you, do you think those patients are good to follow up and adherent to treatment? Were they good to follow up?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.020045492547634, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Difficulty in breathing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Difficulty in breathing, Apnea, couldn’t sit on bed, swollen limbs, swelling, abdominal distension and arthritis. That’s what the patient would tell you but when you check, you get irregular heartbeats."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So according to you, do you think those patients are good to follow up and adherent to treatment? Were they good to follow up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. They must be followed up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do they go for follow-up?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.432154929071153, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. They must be followed up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do they go for follow-up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the health workers or patients?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t, that one I can’t lie to you whether they follow the treatment prescribed or not, but during the hospital we could try, but when you discharge them you don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means you are not aware if they are adherent to treatment or not?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.25794992119017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the health workers or patients?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t, that one I can’t lie to you whether they follow the treatment prescribed or not, but during the hospital we could try, but when you discharge them you don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means you are not aware if they are adherent to treatment or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it means the one whom you told me came in after two years and if you did an earlier follow up, they were not able to come back on that follow up date!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.175499912433521, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t, that one I can’t lie to you whether they follow the treatment prescribed or not, but during the hospital we could try, but when you discharge them you don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means you are not aware if they are adherent to treatment or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it means the one whom you told me came in after two years and if you did an earlier follow up, they were not able to come back on that follow up date!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the challenge which I saw is if you follow in the medications they were taking, you find that they weren’t there. Then if the medication is not there in the hospital then why would you follow up a patient in the village if they are telling you they don’t have money to buy the drugs? Sometimes you find that you need a medication but the patient has to go and buy at the pharmacy, so the challenge begins exactly at the hospital."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what sort of barriers do the patients commonly state to getting care they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.861666569370579, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it means the one whom you told me came in after two years and if you did an earlier follow up, they were not able to come back on that follow up date!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the challenge which I saw is if you follow in the medications they were taking, you find that they weren’t there. Then if the medication is not there in the hospital then why would you follow up a patient in the village if they are telling you they don’t have money to buy the drugs? Sometimes you find that you need a medication but the patient has to go and buy at the pharmacy, so the challenge begins exactly at the hospital."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what sort of barriers do the patients commonly state to getting care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first one is about seeing health workers. In Uganda, seeing a health worker is not easy except if the health worker also left. Coming here, you realize that someone is in line, like that one with a heart failure must go to OPD and yet he has difficulty in breathing, so he is seated in a chair and is going to wait for 5 hours when nobody has seen him. So I think what we have to improve is, I don’t know how we can do it, but it is the health worker to patient relationship or our attitude at places of work. Because, you find that sometimes there are many people and there’s only one person and in some places you find that there are no doctors. Sometimes you find patients have to travel long distances. Leave alone Kampala where there are many health centers, but when you are deep in the village, someone tells you I need to use 20,000shs - 30,000shs on boda to come to the hospital, but then he reaches and there’s a problem getting medication. So he decides, “next time let me try my herbal medicine and see’"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means we as health workers become barriers to patients coming to seek treatment and our attitude also towards patient management!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4492607257825014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Like when they have been making tables (kimeeza) and they talk to the patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A ‘kimeeza’ is like a political rally!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s like a political gathering in the community and they talk a lot of things, but instead of coming to the health unit first and understand such that when you make your ‘kimeeza’, when people bring up something then you react with information on the ground. But for them, they react and make comments without coming on ground to find out what’s happening to the facility. You find that you don’t have things to use but people can’t believe because for them they saw a track bringing in medication, and yet you are telling a patient to go buy something. So it becomes a problem to us to do our work, not only in RHD but generally."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "My next question is funding for health care in general and Rheumatic Heart Disease in particular; are you aware of any funding in the health facility for the different health conditions and Rheumatic Heart Disease in particular? Are you aware of any funding in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Generally, it’s a government hospital where we work so most of the things, the drugs and payment of the workers comes from the government. But we have other stakeholders that help with other things, like for HIV, it is Mildmay. Then there are these non- communicable disease like hypertension and diabetes; I think they are for the Uganda Virus Research Institute. There’s IDI that deals in circumcision in the unit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "IDI is Infectious Disease Institute?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6102896953138905, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s like a political gathering in the community and they talk a lot of things, but instead of coming to the health unit first and understand such that when you make your ‘kimeeza’, when people bring up something then you react with information on the ground. But for them, they react and make comments without coming on ground to find out what’s happening to the facility. You find that you don’t have things to use but people can’t believe because for them they saw a track bringing in medication, and yet you are telling a patient to go buy something. So it becomes a problem to us to do our work, not only in RHD but generally."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "My next question is funding for health care in general and Rheumatic Heart Disease in particular; are you aware of any funding in the health facility for the different health conditions and Rheumatic Heart Disease in particular? Are you aware of any funding in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Generally, it’s a government hospital where we work so most of the things, the drugs and payment of the workers comes from the government. But we have other stakeholders that help with other things, like for HIV, it is Mildmay. Then there are these non- communicable disease like hypertension and diabetes; I think they are for the Uganda Virus Research Institute. There’s IDI that deals in circumcision in the unit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "IDI is Infectious Disease Institute?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they help us with circumcision but with Rheumatic Heart Disease, it might be there but I haven’t heard about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not heard about funding for RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7892107725709894, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Generally, it’s a government hospital where we work so most of the things, the drugs and payment of the workers comes from the government. But we have other stakeholders that help with other things, like for HIV, it is Mildmay. Then there are these non- communicable disease like hypertension and diabetes; I think they are for the Uganda Virus Research Institute. There’s IDI that deals in circumcision in the unit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "IDI is Infectious Disease Institute?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they help us with circumcision but with Rheumatic Heart Disease, it might be there but I haven’t heard about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not heard about funding for RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I haven’t heard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So about the healthcare workers, tell me about the numbers; how are the barriers of their numbers, qualifications and the quality of care they provide? How is it a barrier to provision of care? Do they provide the quality of care that’s needed for workers?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9880119695233214, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they help us with circumcision but with Rheumatic Heart Disease, it might be there but I haven’t heard about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not heard about funding for RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I haven’t heard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So about the healthcare workers, tell me about the numbers; how are the barriers of their numbers, qualifications and the quality of care they provide? How is it a barrier to provision of care? Do they provide the quality of care that’s needed for workers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those ones we have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the numbers?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.097791077248135, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I haven’t heard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So about the healthcare workers, tell me about the numbers; how are the barriers of their numbers, qualifications and the quality of care they provide? How is it a barrier to provision of care? Do they provide the quality of care that’s needed for workers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those ones we have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the numbers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are few compared to patients. I think because the number of people who are supposed to be in health centers was paused before and people have not taken time to review, for example, our midwifery unit has three qualified midwives to work there, but that’s where you have a post-operative where you have expectant mothers, antenatal care which can get more than 80 mothers a day and a labor suite which can deliver more than 5 mothers a day. So you have a very busy ward. Now if you have three (midwives) and one is at antenatal working on 80 mothers, do you expect her to take the correct thing even if she’s qualified? You have one in post-operative, one in labor suite with two mothers, then who do you think is working at night and who is going to be off? That’s one of the biggest challenges. So when you go to other departments, like I told you, we currently have 2 medical officers in the unit and two clinical officers. We have a theatre which is operating and it’s very busy, then we also have non- communicable diseases. So this means that some units where there are supposed to be a medical officer, you just get a nurse to be there and yet you wanted someone more than a nurse to be there. So we have limited numbers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what you are saying is that with the few numbers of health workers, it affects the quality of care you give to the patents. Although they are qualified, they are few and this means that the quality of care they give to patients is poor because of the patient numbers."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2197678636090388, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those ones we have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the numbers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are few compared to patients. I think because the number of people who are supposed to be in health centers was paused before and people have not taken time to review, for example, our midwifery unit has three qualified midwives to work there, but that’s where you have a post-operative where you have expectant mothers, antenatal care which can get more than 80 mothers a day and a labor suite which can deliver more than 5 mothers a day. So you have a very busy ward. Now if you have three (midwives) and one is at antenatal working on 80 mothers, do you expect her to take the correct thing even if she’s qualified? You have one in post-operative, one in labor suite with two mothers, then who do you think is working at night and who is going to be off? That’s one of the biggest challenges. So when you go to other departments, like I told you, we currently have 2 medical officers in the unit and two clinical officers. We have a theatre which is operating and it’s very busy, then we also have non- communicable diseases. So this means that some units where there are supposed to be a medical officer, you just get a nurse to be there and yet you wanted someone more than a nurse to be there. So we have limited numbers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what you are saying is that with the few numbers of health workers, it affects the quality of care you give to the patents. Although they are qualified, they are few and this means that the quality of care they give to patients is poor because of the patient numbers."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what about the waiting time?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5058862513691837, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what about the waiting time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends on the unit where you are. As I told you, at the out-patient department it will take some time because you may find two consultation rooms and yet the patients are many. So you have to take a lot of time; there’s no doubt about that. Another challenge is that if you are in other departments, even what to use is a problem! Like I told you that if I need to do something, I need to tell a patient that you go and buy this, and then they say I don’t have money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the health system barriers in regards to medications. You were telling me about medication particularly benzyl penicillin, anti-coagulation and heart failure drugs; do you have them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we have. Like for example, benzyl penicillin, but it gets out of stock sometimes. They do bring for us but after sometime we run out of stock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that they give you a good number to handle your patients? You have no issues with that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6732069459657597, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends on the unit where you are. As I told you, at the out-patient department it will take some time because you may find two consultation rooms and yet the patients are many. So you have to take a lot of time; there’s no doubt about that. Another challenge is that if you are in other departments, even what to use is a problem! Like I told you that if I need to do something, I need to tell a patient that you go and buy this, and then they say I don’t have money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the health system barriers in regards to medications. You were telling me about medication particularly benzyl penicillin, anti-coagulation and heart failure drugs; do you have them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we have. Like for example, benzyl penicillin, but it gets out of stock sometimes. They do bring for us but after sometime we run out of stock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that they give you a good number to handle your patients? You have no issues with that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The issue with what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With all the drugs."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.859118828850844, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we have. Like for example, benzyl penicillin, but it gets out of stock sometimes. They do bring for us but after sometime we run out of stock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that they give you a good number to handle your patients? You have no issues with that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The issue with what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With all the drugs."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the issues, we have. Maybe those of family planning don’t have (issues), but the rest do. For family planning and ARVs, the drugs are ever there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the anti-coagulants?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.065687587612049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The issue with what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With all the drugs."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the issues, we have. Maybe those of family planning don’t have (issues), but the rest do. For family planning and ARVs, the drugs are ever there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the anti-coagulants?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen anti-coagulants in our unit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that’s a hindrance! Like, when you get an RHD patient there will be no way to provide care without those medications!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.295208430680054, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the issues, we have. Maybe those of family planning don’t have (issues), but the rest do. For family planning and ARVs, the drugs are ever there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the anti-coagulants?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen anti-coagulants in our unit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that’s a hindrance! Like, when you get an RHD patient there will be no way to provide care without those medications!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just refer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s a Health Center IV for goodness’ sake, so for someone to come to the heart Institute, they would have to get the initial care they need before they reach there. Sometimes they get sick in the night, you have those kind of things at least they need they such that they get the care they need."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5502315896445045, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not seen anti-coagulants in our unit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means that’s a hindrance! Like, when you get an RHD patient there will be no way to provide care without those medications!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just refer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s a Health Center IV for goodness’ sake, so for someone to come to the heart Institute, they would have to get the initial care they need before they reach there. Sometimes they get sick in the night, you have those kind of things at least they need they such that they get the care they need."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Indeed, they get it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about diagnostics for example the cardiography and those other types of ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.8335906551605605, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just refer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s a Health Center IV for goodness’ sake, so for someone to come to the heart Institute, they would have to get the initial care they need before they reach there. Sometimes they get sick in the night, you have those kind of things at least they need they such that they get the care they need."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Indeed, they get it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about diagnostics for example the cardiography and those other types of ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First of all, we have the laboratory so it’s good we can do all things. But for these things of culture, we don’t do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Culture and sensitivity?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0373229501784005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Indeed, they get it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about diagnostics for example the cardiography and those other types of ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First of all, we have the laboratory so it’s good we can do all things. But for these things of culture, we don’t do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Culture and sensitivity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we don’t do. ECG, even a mere ultra sound we don’t, or even the ECG I can't even comment now!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have an Echo Cardiography?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2636921668648893, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First of all, we have the laboratory so it’s good we can do all things. But for these things of culture, we don’t do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Culture and sensitivity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we don’t do. ECG, even a mere ultra sound we don’t, or even the ECG I can't even comment now!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have an Echo Cardiography?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then that’s also a barrier!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.515213518738766, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we don’t do. ECG, even a mere ultra sound we don’t, or even the ECG I can't even comment now!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have an Echo Cardiography?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then that’s also a barrier!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that’s what I told you that when I get a patient and I feel they need it, I write and tell them to go and do ECG."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the health information system at the hospital; how are those systems interlinked? Okay, tell me how the medical records system is generally. How is your record keeping? Do you have a register where you keep them or an electric way of saving information?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6835705763764062, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then that’s also a barrier!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that’s what I told you that when I get a patient and I feel they need it, I write and tell them to go and do ECG."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the health information system at the hospital; how are those systems interlinked? Okay, tell me how the medical records system is generally. How is your record keeping? Do you have a register where you keep them or an electric way of saving information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think record keeping is good because they particularly have a person who is supposed to do that in the unit, and then every unit has a book in which they record each and every patient they see all their demographics, diagnosis and treatment they have given and the registration numbers of a patient. Then data is got by that records person, summarized, saved electronically and then at the end of the month, he has to give a summary of what the patients we have in each unit and conditions, and then sends to the district. So I think the record system is not a big issue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said every different unit has a book where they register the patients!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8706339737515625, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that’s what I told you that when I get a patient and I feel they need it, I write and tell them to go and do ECG."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about the health information system at the hospital; how are those systems interlinked? Okay, tell me how the medical records system is generally. How is your record keeping? Do you have a register where you keep them or an electric way of saving information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think record keeping is good because they particularly have a person who is supposed to do that in the unit, and then every unit has a book in which they record each and every patient they see all their demographics, diagnosis and treatment they have given and the registration numbers of a patient. Then data is got by that records person, summarized, saved electronically and then at the end of the month, he has to give a summary of what the patients we have in each unit and conditions, and then sends to the district. So I think the record system is not a big issue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said every different unit has a book where they register the patients!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are those different medical systems interrelated or integrated in a way that you are able to access information from the different units?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0784821930572916, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think record keeping is good because they particularly have a person who is supposed to do that in the unit, and then every unit has a book in which they record each and every patient they see all their demographics, diagnosis and treatment they have given and the registration numbers of a patient. Then data is got by that records person, summarized, saved electronically and then at the end of the month, he has to give a summary of what the patients we have in each unit and conditions, and then sends to the district. So I think the record system is not a big issue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said every different unit has a book where they register the patients!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are those different medical systems interrelated or integrated in a way that you are able to access information from the different units?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you can access information from that unit although I have not seen people trying to access it a lot, but if you want it’s there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you have specific registers for specific conditions? For example, patients who come with hypertension and DM, do you have specific registers for them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3094246589525462, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are those different medical systems interrelated or integrated in a way that you are able to access information from the different units?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you can access information from that unit although I have not seen people trying to access it a lot, but if you want it’s there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you have specific registers for specific conditions? For example, patients who come with hypertension and DM, do you have specific registers for them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, like we a have specific register for TB. Like I told, we have non-communicables, so the book is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about registers for acute rheumatic fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease? Do you have those too?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5660273988361624, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you can access information from that unit although I have not seen people trying to access it a lot, but if you want it’s there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you have specific registers for specific conditions? For example, patients who come with hypertension and DM, do you have specific registers for them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, like we a have specific register for TB. Like I told, we have non-communicables, so the book is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about registers for acute rheumatic fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease? Do you have those too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t think so, because you have never seen them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.851141554262403, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, like we a have specific register for TB. Like I told, we have non-communicables, so the book is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about registers for acute rheumatic fever and Rheumatic Heart Disease? Do you have those too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t think so, because you have never seen them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I have not seen them because I would have seen them if they were there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have guidelines and protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease at the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.1679350602915584, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t think so, because you have never seen them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I have not seen them because I would have seen them if they were there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have guidelines and protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease at the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it’s not there?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are your referral pathways in case you have received a patient presenting the symptoms you have described?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.6764630373969855, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it’s not there?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are your referral pathways in case you have received a patient presenting the symptoms you have described?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I get a patient, I just refer directly to Uganda Heart Institute."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[laughs]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because for me I am close, but if I was far I would send to a regional referral hospital. At least it’s in Wakiso where I know you cannot get any disturbances."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, I need to know about the local system enablers; what motivates you to come from wherever you come from to work?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8627367082188728, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I get a patient, I just refer directly to Uganda Heart Institute."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[laughs]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because for me I am close, but if I was far I would send to a regional referral hospital. At least it’s in Wakiso where I know you cannot get any disturbances."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, I need to know about the local system enablers; what motivates you to come from wherever you come from to work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most important thing is the calling, and when the patients improve, there’s a way it feels in the heart; you feel so happy. Other things are additional but the important thing is seeing the patients feeling better. Because, you can’t treat a baby of four months but if you see the baby who had convulsions and fever improving, you feel so nice. In addition to that, our administration doctor who works for us is a very good man and very welcoming. You have to talk when you have problem, so we work as a community and when at work, you feel like you have reached home. There’s no big issue in the unit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means the leadership at the hospital has enabled you to be able to provide your care!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0697074535765254, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because for me I am close, but if I was far I would send to a regional referral hospital. At least it’s in Wakiso where I know you cannot get any disturbances."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, I need to know about the local system enablers; what motivates you to come from wherever you come from to work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most important thing is the calling, and when the patients improve, there’s a way it feels in the heart; you feel so happy. Other things are additional but the important thing is seeing the patients feeling better. Because, you can’t treat a baby of four months but if you see the baby who had convulsions and fever improving, you feel so nice. In addition to that, our administration doctor who works for us is a very good man and very welcoming. You have to talk when you have problem, so we work as a community and when at work, you feel like you have reached home. There’s no big issue in the unit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means the leadership at the hospital has enabled you to be able to provide your care!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And has the district done the same?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2996749484183616, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most important thing is the calling, and when the patients improve, there’s a way it feels in the heart; you feel so happy. Other things are additional but the important thing is seeing the patients feeling better. Because, you can’t treat a baby of four months but if you see the baby who had convulsions and fever improving, you feel so nice. In addition to that, our administration doctor who works for us is a very good man and very welcoming. You have to talk when you have problem, so we work as a community and when at work, you feel like you have reached home. There’s no big issue in the unit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means the leadership at the hospital has enabled you to be able to provide your care!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And has the district done the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even the district has no big issues. Normally we take long to communicate to the district, but it’s mainly the in-charge who communicates to them if there’s a problem and they will communicate if there’s a way to solve your issues in your place. Even when they are not around, they have been able to solve our problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So according to you, do you think the general funding enables you to provide the care that you need to the patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.555194387131513, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And has the district done the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even the district has no big issues. Normally we take long to communicate to the district, but it’s mainly the in-charge who communicates to them if there’s a problem and they will communicate if there’s a way to solve your issues in your place. Even when they are not around, they have been able to solve our problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So according to you, do you think the general funding enables you to provide the care that you need to the patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they are not because funds have to be pushed first in training those health workers. Because now, patients with rheumatic heart failure and fevers may be bypassing the health workers but maybe the health workers can’t recognize. So there must be specific funds for training health workers to understand, and also put the diagnostics in place to help the patients because if these two are not there, you might think that you have no rheumatic heart patient in Wakiso when you have like ten of them!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what you are saying is that to you, the funding is not enough!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8391048745905696, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even the district has no big issues. Normally we take long to communicate to the district, but it’s mainly the in-charge who communicates to them if there’s a problem and they will communicate if there’s a way to solve your issues in your place. Even when they are not around, they have been able to solve our problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So according to you, do you think the general funding enables you to provide the care that you need to the patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they are not because funds have to be pushed first in training those health workers. Because now, patients with rheumatic heart failure and fevers may be bypassing the health workers but maybe the health workers can’t recognize. So there must be specific funds for training health workers to understand, and also put the diagnostics in place to help the patients because if these two are not there, you might think that you have no rheumatic heart patient in Wakiso when you have like ten of them!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what you are saying is that to you, the funding is not enough!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, I was saying the health worker numbers, are they working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.1545609717672995, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they are not because funds have to be pushed first in training those health workers. Because now, patients with rheumatic heart failure and fevers may be bypassing the health workers but maybe the health workers can’t recognize. So there must be specific funds for training health workers to understand, and also put the diagnostics in place to help the patients because if these two are not there, you might think that you have no rheumatic heart patient in Wakiso when you have like ten of them!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what you are saying is that to you, the funding is not enough!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, I was saying the health worker numbers, are they working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they don’t. Like I told you, we are few. Someone can come here and say that they are sick or that he left home with severe headache but he has been sitting here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are saying the health care numbers don't enable you to provide the care the way you need to!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.393956635296999, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, I was saying the health worker numbers, are they working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they don’t. Like I told you, we are few. Someone can come here and say that they are sick or that he left home with severe headache but he has been sitting here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are saying the health care numbers don't enable you to provide the care the way you need to!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because, for example, you may go to the unit when the doctor doing the operation hasn’t reviewed the post operatives and yet he has those he operated on back for review, and then they are called to the OPD because sometimes they call you when they have a patient but you sometimes fail to go there because you may find that you have five caesarian sections. So you tell them I will come but by the time it is seven, you have to go home, then you say I didn’t see the patient which they called you for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means the numbers also affect your quality of care; they don’t enable you to provide the kind you want!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.659951816996666, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they don’t. Like I told you, we are few. Someone can come here and say that they are sick or that he left home with severe headache but he has been sitting here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are saying the health care numbers don't enable you to provide the care the way you need to!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because, for example, you may go to the unit when the doctor doing the operation hasn’t reviewed the post operatives and yet he has those he operated on back for review, and then they are called to the OPD because sometimes they call you when they have a patient but you sometimes fail to go there because you may find that you have five caesarian sections. So you tell them I will come but by the time it is seven, you have to go home, then you say I didn’t see the patient which they called you for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means the numbers also affect your quality of care; they don’t enable you to provide the kind you want!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "True."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the medicine provided to the facility like Health Center IV enable you to provide your work the way you want to as a health worker?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.955502018885184, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because, for example, you may go to the unit when the doctor doing the operation hasn’t reviewed the post operatives and yet he has those he operated on back for review, and then they are called to the OPD because sometimes they call you when they have a patient but you sometimes fail to go there because you may find that you have five caesarian sections. So you tell them I will come but by the time it is seven, you have to go home, then you say I didn’t see the patient which they called you for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means the numbers also affect your quality of care; they don’t enable you to provide the kind you want!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "True."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the medicine provided to the facility like Health Center IV enable you to provide your work the way you want to as a health worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Maybe if you have that benzyl penicillin, you can start somebody on that antibiotic as you refer the patient, or you may give a prophylaxis. When the patient has received treatment from somewhere and they refer to us, we can give that continuous prophylaxis but as I told you, the challenge comes when the drug is not there because the patient can find no drugs on the unit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the health information systems, do they enable you to provide the care you need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.283891132094649, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "True."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the medicine provided to the facility like Health Center IV enable you to provide your work the way you want to as a health worker?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Maybe if you have that benzyl penicillin, you can start somebody on that antibiotic as you refer the patient, or you may give a prophylaxis. When the patient has received treatment from somewhere and they refer to us, we can give that continuous prophylaxis but as I told you, the challenge comes when the drug is not there because the patient can find no drugs on the unit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the health information systems, do they enable you to provide the care you need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "With that one, at least there are no big issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you told me earlier that you don’t have guidelines and protocols of Rheumatic Heart d Disease!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.64876792454961, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Maybe if you have that benzyl penicillin, you can start somebody on that antibiotic as you refer the patient, or you may give a prophylaxis. When the patient has received treatment from somewhere and they refer to us, we can give that continuous prophylaxis but as I told you, the challenge comes when the drug is not there because the patient can find no drugs on the unit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the health information systems, do they enable you to provide the care you need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "With that one, at least there are no big issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you told me earlier that you don’t have guidelines and protocols of Rheumatic Heart d Disease!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the hospital, we don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me the perception of patient outcomes; do you generally think the patients get the care they need or not."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.282429536481, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the hospital, we don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me the perception of patient outcomes; do you generally think the patients get the care they need or not."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t get the care they need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because as I told you, the number of health workers, for example if I operate on a patient I need to monitor him every fifteen minutes. So if I don’t, the patient doesn’t get the care he deserves to get and for sure no one will observe that patient because we are very few. So the patient is at risk; anything can happen when you don't know. Because, imagine coming here and sit for four hours when you have a pneumonia killing you or a heart failure where you can’t breathe! So even if you treat such a patient, he can’t say you have given him the care he deserves. Because, by the time someone leaves their home and comes, he has a problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means the waiting time for the patients becomes longer!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.31381059609000017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They don’t get the care they need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because as I told you, the number of health workers, for example if I operate on a patient I need to monitor him every fifteen minutes. So if I don’t, the patient doesn’t get the care he deserves to get and for sure no one will observe that patient because we are very few. So the patient is at risk; anything can happen when you don't know. Because, imagine coming here and sit for four hours when you have a pneumonia killing you or a heart failure where you can’t breathe! So even if you treat such a patient, he can’t say you have given him the care he deserves. Because, by the time someone leaves their home and comes, he has a problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means the waiting time for the patients becomes longer!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the waiting time is a problem and even the interacting time with health personnel becomes very short because of the numbers. As I told you, if you have 180 patients, it is very difficult to sit and listen to that patient properly because as a minimum rule, you are supposed to clerk that patient for 45 minutes, but if you are one and given 180 patients a day, you will see 15 patients. So by the time you see 100 patients, you have given each patient like 3 minutes. So have you examined the patients? No! Because, I may come when I don’t know that I have a heart failure, so it’s you to listen to me and tell me. Despite you treating the fever, it doesn’t mean I have received care. Two, investigations; as I told you, sometimes you want to do common investigations but the patient goes to the laboratory and find that it’s not there, like for an ECG, he has to travel this side just to do it. So I don’t think the patient will get the care they wanted."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about patients’ safety; are the patients safe with the quality of care you give them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34867844010000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because as I told you, the number of health workers, for example if I operate on a patient I need to monitor him every fifteen minutes. So if I don’t, the patient doesn’t get the care he deserves to get and for sure no one will observe that patient because we are very few. So the patient is at risk; anything can happen when you don't know. Because, imagine coming here and sit for four hours when you have a pneumonia killing you or a heart failure where you can’t breathe! So even if you treat such a patient, he can’t say you have given him the care he deserves. Because, by the time someone leaves their home and comes, he has a problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which means the waiting time for the patients becomes longer!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the waiting time is a problem and even the interacting time with health personnel becomes very short because of the numbers. As I told you, if you have 180 patients, it is very difficult to sit and listen to that patient properly because as a minimum rule, you are supposed to clerk that patient for 45 minutes, but if you are one and given 180 patients a day, you will see 15 patients. So by the time you see 100 patients, you have given each patient like 3 minutes. So have you examined the patients? No! Because, I may come when I don’t know that I have a heart failure, so it’s you to listen to me and tell me. Despite you treating the fever, it doesn’t mean I have received care. Two, investigations; as I told you, sometimes you want to do common investigations but the patient goes to the laboratory and find that it’s not there, like for an ECG, he has to travel this side just to do it. So I don’t think the patient will get the care they wanted."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about patients’ safety; are the patients safe with the quality of care you give them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like in terms of?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like a patient comes to you with a different diagnosis or symptom for example difficulty in breathing and fevers. When they come to you, are they safe in your hands that they will get the care they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38742048900000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the waiting time is a problem and even the interacting time with health personnel becomes very short because of the numbers. As I told you, if you have 180 patients, it is very difficult to sit and listen to that patient properly because as a minimum rule, you are supposed to clerk that patient for 45 minutes, but if you are one and given 180 patients a day, you will see 15 patients. So by the time you see 100 patients, you have given each patient like 3 minutes. So have you examined the patients? No! Because, I may come when I don’t know that I have a heart failure, so it’s you to listen to me and tell me. Despite you treating the fever, it doesn’t mean I have received care. Two, investigations; as I told you, sometimes you want to do common investigations but the patient goes to the laboratory and find that it’s not there, like for an ECG, he has to travel this side just to do it. So I don’t think the patient will get the care they wanted."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about patients’ safety; are the patients safe with the quality of care you give them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like in terms of?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like a patient comes to you with a different diagnosis or symptom for example difficulty in breathing and fevers. When they come to you, are they safe in your hands that they will get the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they are because we have qualified staff. The only thing that can change that is the numbers that may not provide services on time. Then absence of medicine because I might diagnose someone with heart failure and difficulty in breathing but I don’t have furosemide to give. That would be the challenge but in terms of safety, when the health workers have the resources to use I think there’s no problem there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you had any preventable death at the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like in terms of?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like a patient comes to you with a different diagnosis or symptom for example difficulty in breathing and fevers. When they come to you, are they safe in your hands that they will get the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they are because we have qualified staff. The only thing that can change that is the numbers that may not provide services on time. Then absence of medicine because I might diagnose someone with heart failure and difficulty in breathing but I don’t have furosemide to give. That would be the challenge but in terms of safety, when the health workers have the resources to use I think there’s no problem there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you had any preventable death at the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Preventable death from rheumatic or?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Rheumatic Heart Disease and generally."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Preventable death from rheumatic or?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Rheumatic Heart Disease and generally."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So many times."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You have said preventable or?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Preventable, like patient comes and you as a health worker you think this death would have been prevented."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So many times."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You have said preventable or?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Preventable, like patient comes and you as a health worker you think this death would have been prevented."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I hadn’t understood the question. I have not. We have not had that one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not had any preventable death? Like dying according to things that as a health worker you would have been able to treat?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You have said preventable or?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Preventable, like patient comes and you as a health worker you think this death would have been prevented."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I hadn’t understood the question. I have not. We have not had that one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not had any preventable death? Like dying according to things that as a health worker you would have been able to treat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There’s one kid who died because of lack of oxygen that time. We wanted oxygen but we didn’t have oxygen, so we had to refer although it was referral without oxygen. We would have put the baby on oxygen and then we refer but we didn’t have oxygen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then you lost the baby!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I hadn’t understood the question. I have not. We have not had that one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have not had any preventable death? Like dying according to things that as a health worker you would have been able to treat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There’s one kid who died because of lack of oxygen that time. We wanted oxygen but we didn’t have oxygen, so we had to refer although it was referral without oxygen. We would have put the baby on oxygen and then we refer but we didn’t have oxygen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then you lost the baby!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We lost the baby, even getting an ambulance is a problem because we don’t have a working ambulance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We lost the baby, even getting an ambulance is a problem because we don’t have a working ambulance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think for me it comes in two things; as I told you, the attitude they have about us. Sometimes they think that even if I go to that place, those people are very rude; you reach there when you are dying but someone says, \"Who has sent you there?\" If I go to the hospital, there’s no medicine; they just tell me to buy and yet I don’t have money, so why can’t I just die from here? And three, it is the misinformation from local herbalists because they sometimes misinform the public a lot from the TVs. They teach them a lot of things like to just smear this or that once and it disappears, or that one can cure diabetes and hypertension and that by just swallowing two things, your diabetes is gone. So even the patient will remain there taking those herbs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So as a health worker what in your opinion are the one or two things the ministry of health could do to improve patient outcomes?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think for me it comes in two things; as I told you, the attitude they have about us. Sometimes they think that even if I go to that place, those people are very rude; you reach there when you are dying but someone says, \"Who has sent you there?\" If I go to the hospital, there’s no medicine; they just tell me to buy and yet I don’t have money, so why can’t I just die from here? And three, it is the misinformation from local herbalists because they sometimes misinform the public a lot from the TVs. They teach them a lot of things like to just smear this or that once and it disappears, or that one can cure diabetes and hypertension and that by just swallowing two things, your diabetes is gone. So even the patient will remain there taking those herbs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So as a health worker what in your opinion are the one or two things the ministry of health could do to improve patient outcomes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One, I think is to improve the health worker attitude towards patients although I don’t know how they would do that. I don’t know if they have to get someone to ... I don’t know, but health workers need to improve their attitude towards patients. And two, it is increasing the number of health workers and what they have to use in health facilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00035:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think for me it comes in two things; as I told you, the attitude they have about us. Sometimes they think that even if I go to that place, those people are very rude; you reach there when you are dying but someone says, \"Who has sent you there?\" If I go to the hospital, there’s no medicine; they just tell me to buy and yet I don’t have money, so why can’t I just die from here? And three, it is the misinformation from local herbalists because they sometimes misinform the public a lot from the TVs. They teach them a lot of things like to just smear this or that once and it disappears, or that one can cure diabetes and hypertension and that by just swallowing two things, your diabetes is gone. So even the patient will remain there taking those herbs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So as a health worker what in your opinion are the one or two things the ministry of health could do to improve patient outcomes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One, I think is to improve the health worker attitude towards patients although I don’t know how they would do that. I don’t know if they have to get someone to ... I don’t know, but health workers need to improve their attitude towards patients. And two, it is increasing the number of health workers and what they have to use in health facilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe also equipping health workers with listening skills, or maybe updating them because someone might have qualified ten years back and has never attended any CMEs and yet things have changed. For him, he is telling you those old things from ten years back! I think to also educate the patients to tell the community which services are available in nearby facilities because sometimes patients don’t know which services are available; they first go to private clinics and from there they are given treatment for malaria for every condition, and that’s when they come to the health facility when they’re badly off and after wasting all the money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the training in Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3990556198187871, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If I may take you back in those years before you started living with Peter, were you living only in your parents homestead alone or a big homestead where you could eat in your uncles or aunties or grandmothers or step mothers house or just in your homestead alone?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just in our homestead alone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many houses did the homestead have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two houses."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa, did both houses belong to your father?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5545062442430968, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just in our homestead alone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many houses did the homestead have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two houses."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa, did both houses belong to your father?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they belonged to my father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…and how many were you in your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6161180491589965, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two houses."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa, did both houses belong to your father?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they belonged to my father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…and how many were you in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were four."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What of the step mother?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6845756101766627, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they belonged to my father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…and how many were you in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were four."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What of the step mother?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that time my father was only with my mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…but two homesteads?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8451550742921761, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that time my father was only with my mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…but two homesteads?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, one with two houses."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Two houses?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…now may be if we can revisit those years when you were there at home, there are some of the responsibilities that were given to you, You said that you were four children in the family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9390611936579734, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, one with two houses."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Two houses?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…now may be if we can revisit those years when you were there at home, there are some of the responsibilities that were given to you, You said that you were four children in the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Out of the four children, male number was how many and female how many?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.043401326286637, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…now may be if we can revisit those years when you were there at home, there are some of the responsibilities that were given to you, You said that you were four children in the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Out of the four children, male number was how many and female how many?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Males were three and female one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you were the female child alone?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1593348069851523, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Out of the four children, male number was how many and female how many?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Males were three and female one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you were the female child alone?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now, we have different roles assigned to each child. What were the duties of the male children and female child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.288149785539058, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Males were three and female one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you were the female child alone?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now, we have different roles assigned to each child. What were the duties of the male children and female child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My two brothers looked after cattle, one of them went to school and I stayed at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You therefore remained at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.431277539487842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now, we have different roles assigned to each child. What were the duties of the male children and female child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My two brothers looked after cattle, one of them went to school and I stayed at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You therefore remained at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it is the male children that looked after the cattle most of the times?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5903083772087134, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My two brothers looked after cattle, one of them went to school and I stayed at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You therefore remained at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it is the male children that looked after the cattle most of the times?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Only one of them attended school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the rest looked after cattle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7670093080096816, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it is the male children that looked after the cattle most of the times?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Only one of them attended school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the rest looked after cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa... And you told me that your major role was to remain there at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9633436755663127, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Only one of them attended school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the rest looked after cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa... And you told me that your major role was to remain there at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, what were you doing at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1814929728514585, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa... And you told me that your major role was to remain there at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, what were you doing at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did all household chores and any other tasks at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which one now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4238810809460647, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, what were you doing at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did all household chores and any other tasks at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which one now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like cooking, fetching firewood, milking cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What you were doing was girl child’s job?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.693201201051183, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did all household chores and any other tasks at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which one now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like cooking, fetching firewood, milking cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What you were doing was girl child’s job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what role did the father play?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.9924457789457586, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like cooking, fetching firewood, milking cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What you were doing was girl child’s job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what role did the father play?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She also struggled to look for food and also farming"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. And what was mother’s major role too?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2138286432730654, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what role did the father play?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She also struggled to look for food and also farming"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. And what was mother’s major role too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was doing business in Mwanza and even now she is still there doing her business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, she did business?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.459809603636739, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She also struggled to look for food and also farming"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. And what was mother’s major role too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was doing business in Mwanza and even now she is still there doing her business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, she did business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And has she come back?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.733121781818599, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was doing business in Mwanza and even now she is still there doing her business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, she did business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And has she come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She came then went back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…you said at your home, how many had gone to school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0368019797984434, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And has she come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She came then went back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…you said at your home, how many had gone to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just one child."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who? Is he your younger brother?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3742244219982704, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She came then went back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…you said at your home, how many had gone to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just one child."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who? Is he your younger brother?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, my younger brother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. Are you the eldest?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.749138246664745, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just one child."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who? Is he your younger brother?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, my younger brother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. Are you the eldest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then the rest three are you’re younger than you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.165709162960828, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, my younger brother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. Are you the eldest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then the rest three are you’re younger than you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, it is only your last-born brother who is educated?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.628565736623141, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then the rest three are you’re younger than you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, it is only your last-born brother who is educated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He attended school up to which level?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.920628596247934, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, it is only your last-born brother who is educated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He attended school up to which level?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now, he is pursuing a Diploma course in Tanga; he wants to be a cashier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I appreciate Now what kind of food were you eating when you were living with your parents?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2451428847199266, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He attended school up to which level?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now, he is pursuing a Diploma course in Tanga; he wants to be a cashier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I appreciate Now what kind of food were you eating when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating ugali, rice, arrowroots, bananas and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is when you were at your father’s house?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.605714316355474, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now, he is pursuing a Diploma course in Tanga; he wants to be a cashier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I appreciate Now what kind of food were you eating when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating ugali, rice, arrowroots, bananas and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is when you were at your father’s house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which food did you eat daily or you must eat after two days?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.89523812928386, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eating ugali, rice, arrowroots, bananas and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is when you were at your father’s house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which food did you eat daily or you must eat after two days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which food do you eat rarely for example when cooked, everybody complains?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9947090325376222, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which food did you eat daily or you must eat after two days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which food do you eat rarely for example when cooked, everybody complains?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cassava or kande."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…it is okay. If we may continue now, you will find that there is some food that men prefer to eat most and women too like. Do you think there was similar habits in your community here for instance you like a particular meal and men too preferred a different food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1052322583751357, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which food do you eat rarely for example when cooked, everybody complains?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cassava or kande."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…it is okay. If we may continue now, you will find that there is some food that men prefer to eat most and women too like. Do you think there was similar habits in your community here for instance you like a particular meal and men too preferred a different food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean what was cooked is what they will eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2280358426390396, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cassava or kande."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…it is okay. If we may continue now, you will find that there is some food that men prefer to eat most and women too like. Do you think there was similar habits in your community here for instance you like a particular meal and men too preferred a different food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean what was cooked is what they will eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not that when certain food is cooked he complains a lot?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.364484269598933, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean what was cooked is what they will eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not that when certain food is cooked he complains a lot?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. You also told me that you used to cultivate crops?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5160936328877033, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not that when certain food is cooked he complains a lot?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. You also told me that you used to cultivate crops?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You planted which crops?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.684548480986337, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. You also told me that you used to cultivate crops?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You planted which crops?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grew rice and maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of beans?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8717205344292631, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You planted which crops?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grew rice and maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of beans?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You planted rice and maize alone?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.310766091887979, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You planted rice and maize alone?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We bought others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods did you buy most of the time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5675178798755325, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We bought others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods did you buy most of the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you cultivate rice and maize, what we only buy is bananas and cassava. There is no any other food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…okay. You know there are other families that get their food from the wild like they kill antelope and eat."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8527976443061474, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We bought others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods did you buy most of the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you cultivate rice and maize, what we only buy is bananas and cassava. There is no any other food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…okay. You know there are other families that get their food from the wild like they kill antelope and eat."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not eat those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do not eat meat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.169775160340164, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you cultivate rice and maize, what we only buy is bananas and cassava. There is no any other food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…okay. You know there are other families that get their food from the wild like they kill antelope and eat."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not eat those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do not eat meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat cattle and goat meat. We do not eat wild meat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do not you eat hare (rabbit) for example you come across one you kill then eat it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5219724003779596, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not eat those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do not eat meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat cattle and goat meat. We do not eat wild meat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do not you eat hare (rabbit) for example you come across one you kill then eat it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we do not eat when we kill one we give it to dogs to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of green vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.9133026670866218, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat cattle and goat meat. We do not eat wild meat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "do not you eat hare (rabbit) for example you come across one you kill then eat it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we do not eat when we kill one we give it to dogs to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of green vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of wild vegetables that grow in the bush that you just come across the farm. They just germinate themselves?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.348114074540691, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we do not eat when we kill one we give it to dogs to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of green vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of wild vegetables that grow in the bush that you just come across the farm. They just germinate themselves?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we use them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance, which vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.133474166099618, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we use them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance, which vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Amaranth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We also have pumpkin leaves that are not grown."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mum, can you tell me the name of vegetables that you fetch from the wild?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.59274907344402, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Amaranth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…any other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We also have pumpkin leaves that are not grown."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mum, can you tell me the name of vegetables that you fetch from the wild?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have no name."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I want it in your local language. Just mentioned it that way?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.7324326679530864, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Embogo, Sagoli."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just wild amaranth (esene)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those are the only ones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is bitter lettuce (mchunga) also there? Do you know bitter lettuce?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9249251866145405, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just wild amaranth (esene)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those are the only ones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is bitter lettuce (mchunga) also there? Do you know bitter lettuce?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, we know it I think it is Naedengenyu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have to buy food at some point?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.138805762905045, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those are the only ones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is bitter lettuce (mchunga) also there? Do you know bitter lettuce?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, we know it I think it is Naedengenyu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have to buy food at some point?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we could buy some days whenever food was lacking in the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…now in the past just before you came here, who made the decision of buying food in the household e.g. Food has run out of stock and there is need to buy more. Who decided on buying food? Was it the father or the mother?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.376450847672272, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, we know it I think it is Naedengenyu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have to buy food at some point?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we could buy some days whenever food was lacking in the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…now in the past just before you came here, who made the decision of buying food in the household e.g. Food has run out of stock and there is need to buy more. Who decided on buying food? Was it the father or the mother?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both of them, father and mother sat down and discussed before making a decision."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They did not involve the children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.699322034163299, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both of them, father and mother sat down and discussed before making a decision."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They did not involve the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. The children only waited to eat…that is different with today whereby a child can say, “Dad, today we want to eat this and that”. Therefore, you will have to give in order to serve them right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past when parents said yes, it was yes, when they say no, it was no. Today globalization changes have occurred."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "it is true changes have occurred. Now, who is tasked with the responsibility of going to buy food in the market? Is it the father, mother or children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8881355935147768, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. The children only waited to eat…that is different with today whereby a child can say, “Dad, today we want to eat this and that”. Therefore, you will have to give in order to serve them right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past when parents said yes, it was yes, when they say no, it was no. Today globalization changes have occurred."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "it is true changes have occurred. Now, who is tasked with the responsibility of going to buy food in the market? Is it the father, mother or children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father; mother does not go though she is just involved in planning on which food to buy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…but we have some foodstuffs that are bought by the mother. Which ones are those?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.097928437238641, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past when parents said yes, it was yes, when they say no, it was no. Today globalization changes have occurred."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "it is true changes have occurred. Now, who is tasked with the responsibility of going to buy food in the market? Is it the father, mother or children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father; mother does not go though she is just involved in planning on which food to buy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…but we have some foodstuffs that are bought by the mother. Which ones are those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are just vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are just hawked around on bicycles just like bananas?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.331031596931823, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father; mother does not go though she is just involved in planning on which food to buy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…but we have some foodstuffs that are bought by the mother. Which ones are those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are just vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are just hawked around on bicycles just like bananas?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, like green vegetables, carrots, onions and okra."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaaa…it is okay. Now let us switch to another topic. In your community, when a child grows up and becomes an adult, how do you know it especially starting with a male child? I mean when he transforms from childhood to adulthood how do you identify that he has grown up to an adult person?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4789239965909144, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are just vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are just hawked around on bicycles just like bananas?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, like green vegetables, carrots, onions and okra."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaaa…it is okay. Now let us switch to another topic. In your community, when a child grows up and becomes an adult, how do you know it especially starting with a male child? I mean when he transforms from childhood to adulthood how do you identify that he has grown up to an adult person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For us, the first thing we look at is reasoning/thinking capacity. For a girl, she is married off but for a boy, he marries then we allocate him some wealth/resources as we watch how he uses it. If he uses it well, we leave him to continue, if he squanders it, we take it back from him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let me here from the mother. When a girl child grows up and becomes an adult woman, what happens next?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.643248885101016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, like green vegetables, carrots, onions and okra."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaaa…it is okay. Now let us switch to another topic. In your community, when a child grows up and becomes an adult, how do you know it especially starting with a male child? I mean when he transforms from childhood to adulthood how do you identify that he has grown up to an adult person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For us, the first thing we look at is reasoning/thinking capacity. For a girl, she is married off but for a boy, he marries then we allocate him some wealth/resources as we watch how he uses it. If he uses it well, we leave him to continue, if he squanders it, we take it back from him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let me here from the mother. When a girl child grows up and becomes an adult woman, what happens next?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hahaaa…she is married off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She is married off?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8258320945566846, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For us, the first thing we look at is reasoning/thinking capacity. For a girl, she is married off but for a boy, he marries then we allocate him some wealth/resources as we watch how he uses it. If he uses it well, we leave him to continue, if he squanders it, we take it back from him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let me here from the mother. When a girl child grows up and becomes an adult woman, what happens next?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hahaaa…she is married off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She is married off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh…yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, meaning this is the most crucial thing to do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.028702327285205, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hahaaa…she is married off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She is married off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh…yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, meaning this is the most crucial thing to do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, she is married off to her husband, or she goes to struggle for her own life"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a ceremony?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2541136969835613, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh…yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, meaning this is the most crucial thing to do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, she is married off to her husband, or she goes to struggle for her own life"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a ceremony?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean a ceremony that initiates them from childhood to adulthood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5045707744261794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, she is married off to her husband, or she goes to struggle for her own life"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a ceremony?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean a ceremony that initiates them from childhood to adulthood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is there, we first organize for a traditional dance before she is married off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you make for him a traditional dance?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.7828564160290883, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean a ceremony that initiates them from childhood to adulthood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is there, we first organize for a traditional dance before she is married off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you make for him a traditional dance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you consider when arranging this traditional dance?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9809515733656533, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is there, we first organize for a traditional dance before she is married off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you make for him a traditional dance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you consider when arranging this traditional dance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Everything, It is a just a ceremony like any other normal ceremony. You slaughter a cow, you buy drinks and you invite people to come, in those days, it was a must for a neighbour to say that Peter organized a ceremony for his child. It is not like today where daughters are just married off when they have grown up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay. Now lets us talk about as from the time you had come here to Peter’s home, for how many years have you been here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0899461926285037, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you consider when arranging this traditional dance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Everything, It is a just a ceremony like any other normal ceremony. You slaughter a cow, you buy drinks and you invite people to come, in those days, it was a must for a neighbour to say that Peter organized a ceremony for his child. It is not like today where daughters are just married off when they have grown up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay. Now lets us talk about as from the time you had come here to Peter’s home, for how many years have you been here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have been here for twelve years now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for now, what is your main economic activity…do you engage in agriculture, business or what job?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.211051325142782, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Everything, It is a just a ceremony like any other normal ceremony. You slaughter a cow, you buy drinks and you invite people to come, in those days, it was a must for a neighbour to say that Peter organized a ceremony for his child. It is not like today where daughters are just married off when they have grown up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay. Now lets us talk about as from the time you had come here to Peter’s home, for how many years have you been here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have been here for twelve years now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for now, what is your main economic activity…do you engage in agriculture, business or what job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do cattle business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we talk about the type of business you do, the farming you do. If you compare when you were at your parents place and now you have your own home, which time did you harvest in abundance or had many cattle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4951250927688664, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do cattle business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we talk about the type of business you do, the farming you do. If you compare when you were at your parents place and now you have your own home, which time did you harvest in abundance or had many cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean our home and here?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At our home, we had cattle and here too we have only that here I have to struggle much but at our home, I would eat without struggling that much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now may be if we look at the responsibilities of a female and male child in those days and today, do you think it has changed…do you think they still play the same roles today as they used to do in the past given that you are now grown up?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.661250103076518, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean our home and here?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At our home, we had cattle and here too we have only that here I have to struggle much but at our home, I would eat without struggling that much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now may be if we look at the responsibilities of a female and male child in those days and today, do you think it has changed…do you think they still play the same roles today as they used to do in the past given that you are now grown up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it has changed. I say so because life has changed and children concentrate much with school work than other tasks at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaaa, it is well. Now let us talk about the male children. What major role do they play?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8458334478627978, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At our home, we had cattle and here too we have only that here I have to struggle much but at our home, I would eat without struggling that much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now may be if we look at the responsibilities of a female and male child in those days and today, do you think it has changed…do you think they still play the same roles today as they used to do in the past given that you are now grown up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it has changed. I say so because life has changed and children concentrate much with school work than other tasks at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaaa, it is well. Now let us talk about the male children. What major role do they play?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have any sons at home apart from one who goes to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He is in which class at secondary level?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0509260531808864, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it has changed. I say so because life has changed and children concentrate much with school work than other tasks at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaaa, it is well. Now let us talk about the male children. What major role do they play?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have any sons at home apart from one who goes to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He is in which class at secondary level?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "he is in form four."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So he hasn’t come back?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2788067257565405, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have any sons at home apart from one who goes to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He is in which class at secondary level?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "he is in form four."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So he hasn’t come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "he is in boarding school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4208963619517114, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "he is in form four."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So he hasn’t come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "he is in boarding school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, he lives there at school in Bagamoyo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…it is fine. Now who looks after cattle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5787737355019016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "he is in boarding school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, he lives there at school in Bagamoyo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…it is fine. Now who looks after cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do it ourselves and workers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have workers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7541930394465572, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, he lives there at school in Bagamoyo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…it is fine. Now who looks after cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do it ourselves and workers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have workers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you have workers meant for looking after the cattle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9491033771628414, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do it ourselves and workers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have workers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you have workers meant for looking after the cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of the female children? Do you have a female child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.4063004656331373, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of the female children? Do you have a female child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have two boys and two girls."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The lastborn is a male?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.45144496181459703, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have two boys and two girls."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The lastborn is a male?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. The first born is a male, the second one is a female, third one is a female and the last one is a male, the one who lives there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeeh that one there. Their job do they work or have any responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.50160551312733, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have two boys and two girls."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The lastborn is a male?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. The first born is a male, the second one is a female, third one is a female and the last one is a male, the one who lives there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeeh that one there. Their job do they work or have any responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do not have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you give them responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5573394590303666, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. The first born is a male, the second one is a female, third one is a female and the last one is a male, the one who lives there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeeh that one there. Their job do they work or have any responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do not have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you give them responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not there…they just wait to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…. Now do you feel there is any benefit brought by these changes for instance you said that in the past, the male children used to look after cattle today they do not?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6192660655892962, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do not have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you give them responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not there…they just wait to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…. Now do you feel there is any benefit brought by these changes for instance you said that in the past, the male children used to look after cattle today they do not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good because children go to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good in which way?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6880734062103291, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not there…they just wait to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…. Now do you feel there is any benefit brought by these changes for instance you said that in the past, the male children used to look after cattle today they do not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good because children go to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good in which way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good because you impart knowledge into someone; you educate him so that he gets to understand how the world moves. Education does not go to waste. When you educate a child, he may end up establishing his own project for example cattle project is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7645260069003657, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good because children go to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good in which way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good because you impart knowledge into someone; you educate him so that he gets to understand how the world moves. Education does not go to waste. When you educate a child, he may end up establishing his own project for example cattle project is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then he writes his own constitution then works on it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8494733410004063, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good because you impart knowledge into someone; you educate him so that he gets to understand how the world moves. Education does not go to waste. When you educate a child, he may end up establishing his own project for example cattle project is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then he writes his own constitution then works on it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know education gets a person from one level to another. An educated person is different from uneducated person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is also true."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9438592677782291, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then he writes his own constitution then works on it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know education gets a person from one level to another. An educated person is different from uneducated person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is also true."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One can train on agriculture or treating livestock (veterinary) or law."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay, but at the end of the day, you both want to get money?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1652583552817644, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One can train on agriculture or treating livestock (veterinary) or law."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay, but at the end of the day, you both want to get money?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we but do not have many people who are unemployed?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But if he is educated, he knows very well that if I cultivate these vegetables, this is what I will get. Isn’t that true?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.294731505868627, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we but do not have many people who are unemployed?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But if he is educated, he knows very well that if I cultivate these vegetables, this is what I will get. Isn’t that true?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have many people who are educated but not employed. Now if a child is educated, he knows very well that he will do this and that in order to get money. Is it true or false?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4385905620762522, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But if he is educated, he knows very well that if I cultivate these vegetables, this is what I will get. Isn’t that true?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have many people who are educated but not employed. Now if a child is educated, he knows very well that he will do this and that in order to get money. Is it true or false?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Or if I grow these vegetables, how will I get money from it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true, they are not employed."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5984339578625024, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have many people who are educated but not employed. Now if a child is educated, he knows very well that he will do this and that in order to get money. Is it true or false?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Or if I grow these vegetables, how will I get money from it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true, they are not employed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But if a person acquires education, he/she knows what she wants in life and he/she uses the knowledge he has and does not guess with education as he does not do guesswork with what he has learnt about. He can even decide to keep few cattle which are healthier than mine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true. But I also understand that the Maasai were teaching each other how to live, how to keep and increase cattle population, how not to sell cattle recklessly?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.776037730958336, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Or if I grow these vegetables, how will I get money from it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true, they are not employed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But if a person acquires education, he/she knows what she wants in life and he/she uses the knowledge he has and does not guess with education as he does not do guesswork with what he has learnt about. He can even decide to keep few cattle which are healthier than mine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true. But I also understand that the Maasai were teaching each other how to live, how to keep and increase cattle population, how not to sell cattle recklessly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those teachings were there and it was mandatory for any grown up person with brains to receive advice from his parents on how to live as we too passed through the same experience failure to which if he does not listen, he won’t make it in life even if you lack education and even just do not know letter ‘A’ but today most people rush to become a doctor, a professor which was not there in past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Now let us look at the changes in food the way you used to eat and today. You know in the past, you ate ugali, milk was abundant, but today you will find people eating chips, chicken."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9733752566203733, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But if a person acquires education, he/she knows what she wants in life and he/she uses the knowledge he has and does not guess with education as he does not do guesswork with what he has learnt about. He can even decide to keep few cattle which are healthier than mine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true. But I also understand that the Maasai were teaching each other how to live, how to keep and increase cattle population, how not to sell cattle recklessly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those teachings were there and it was mandatory for any grown up person with brains to receive advice from his parents on how to live as we too passed through the same experience failure to which if he does not listen, he won’t make it in life even if you lack education and even just do not know letter ‘A’ but today most people rush to become a doctor, a professor which was not there in past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Now let us look at the changes in food the way you used to eat and today. You know in the past, you ate ugali, milk was abundant, but today you will find people eating chips, chicken."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past, we did not know these other green vegetables like carrots, cabbages etc. For us in the past we knew ugali and milk only and rice with milk and meat but today, you will find meat prepared with a variety of vegetables unlike in the past where it was just two by one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…what do you say as to what has contributed to people eating a variety of meals today?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.192639174022637, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those teachings were there and it was mandatory for any grown up person with brains to receive advice from his parents on how to live as we too passed through the same experience failure to which if he does not listen, he won’t make it in life even if you lack education and even just do not know letter ‘A’ but today most people rush to become a doctor, a professor which was not there in past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Now let us look at the changes in food the way you used to eat and today. You know in the past, you ate ugali, milk was abundant, but today you will find people eating chips, chicken."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past, we did not know these other green vegetables like carrots, cabbages etc. For us in the past we knew ugali and milk only and rice with milk and meat but today, you will find meat prepared with a variety of vegetables unlike in the past where it was just two by one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…what do you say as to what has contributed to people eating a variety of meals today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just brought by globalization (changes in the world)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As life changes, people change too?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.436265748914041, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past, we did not know these other green vegetables like carrots, cabbages etc. For us in the past we knew ugali and milk only and rice with milk and meat but today, you will find meat prepared with a variety of vegetables unlike in the past where it was just two by one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…what do you say as to what has contributed to people eating a variety of meals today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just brought by globalization (changes in the world)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As life changes, people change too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for instance today if you give a child milk and rice he/she will not eat because he would ask for green vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did they learn this from?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.7069619432378236, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just brought by globalization (changes in the world)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As life changes, people change too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for instance today if you give a child milk and rice he/she will not eat because he would ask for green vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did they learn this from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They know. Even if you give them milk they must ask for vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If we may ask ourselves, what is it that has caused or brought about changes in the diet (foods people eat)?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8966243813753596, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for instance today if you give a child milk and rice he/she will not eat because he would ask for green vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did they learn this from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They know. Even if you give them milk they must ask for vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If we may ask ourselves, what is it that has caused or brought about changes in the diet (foods people eat)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know today is not like the past century. You cannot cheat on today’s child. What his/her want is what you must give him/her and you cannot ask them why, for us in the past we could survive on milk, we could just grow up not knowing anything…you just stay and eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…should we say that it is education that has brought about these or it is different people that have come here with different ideas and teach them or what is it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1073604237503996, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They know. Even if you give them milk they must ask for vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If we may ask ourselves, what is it that has caused or brought about changes in the diet (foods people eat)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know today is not like the past century. You cannot cheat on today’s child. What his/her want is what you must give him/her and you cannot ask them why, for us in the past we could survive on milk, we could just grow up not knowing anything…you just stay and eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…should we say that it is education that has brought about these or it is different people that have come here with different ideas and teach them or what is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you give birth to a child, he grows up and starts getting clever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they get this?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3415115819448884, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know today is not like the past century. You cannot cheat on today’s child. What his/her want is what you must give him/her and you cannot ask them why, for us in the past we could survive on milk, we could just grow up not knowing anything…you just stay and eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…should we say that it is education that has brought about these or it is different people that have come here with different ideas and teach them or what is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you give birth to a child, he grows up and starts getting clever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they get this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just themselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they learn this from, is it from friends, from school or where?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6016795354943203, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you give birth to a child, he grows up and starts getting clever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they get this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just themselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they learn this from, is it from friends, from school or where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be from school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be from school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.8907550394381336, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just themselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they learn this from, is it from friends, from school or where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be from school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be from school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because a young child does not know anything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think it is as a result of different people coming here or is this village full of the Maasai alone?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9897278215979264, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be from school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be from school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because a young child does not know anything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think it is as a result of different people coming here or is this village full of the Maasai alone?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have other tribes like the Pare, Maasai the Swahili we are different tribes here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Don’t you think the coming of other tribes like the Swahili and others have contributed to the changing of diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2218861995036128, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have other tribes like the Pare, Maasai the Swahili we are different tribes here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Don’t you think the coming of other tribes like the Swahili and others have contributed to the changing of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because they come when we call them and when they call us, we too go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, those are the things that have contributed. Now, do you think the availability of other foods has contributed to you changing the diet or what is it? Cause you knew how to cook rice in the past."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3576513327817918, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because they come when we call them and when they call us, we too go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, those are the things that have contributed. Now, do you think the availability of other foods has contributed to you changing the diet or what is it? Cause you knew how to cook rice in the past."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way rice is prepared today is different with how it was done in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Exactly that is what I want. How do you prepare rice?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.39739036975754644, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because they come when we call them and when they call us, we too go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, those are the things that have contributed. Now, do you think the availability of other foods has contributed to you changing the diet or what is it? Cause you knew how to cook rice in the past."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way rice is prepared today is different with how it was done in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Exactly that is what I want. How do you prepare rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past you would just boil water, add salt then rice later on which boils for some minutes. When the water dries up you put ghee and then it would have been ready to be served."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…what of today?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4415448552861627, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way rice is prepared today is different with how it was done in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Exactly that is what I want. How do you prepare rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past you would just boil water, add salt then rice later on which boils for some minutes. When the water dries up you put ghee and then it would have been ready to be served."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…what of today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays, it is cooked with very many food additives like onions, curry powder the one you use to cook pilau etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm, Therefore the way food is prepared (cooked) has changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.490605394762403, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past you would just boil water, add salt then rice later on which boils for some minutes. When the water dries up you put ghee and then it would have been ready to be served."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…what of today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays, it is cooked with very many food additives like onions, curry powder the one you use to cook pilau etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm, Therefore the way food is prepared (cooked) has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of these others like meat and green vegetables, how did you cook (prepare) them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5451171052915589, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays, it is cooked with very many food additives like onions, curry powder the one you use to cook pilau etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm, Therefore the way food is prepared (cooked) has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of these others like meat and green vegetables, how did you cook (prepare) them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were just boiled them with salt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But how do you do it today?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6056856725461766, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of these others like meat and green vegetables, how did you cook (prepare) them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were just boiled them with salt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But how do you do it today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we fry with tomatoes, ginger, onions…they say the meat should smell."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…but it is you yourselves who have started to cook that way?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6729840806068629, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were just boiled them with salt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But how do you do it today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we fry with tomatoes, ginger, onions…they say the meat should smell."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…but it is you yourselves who have started to cook that way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because things changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Things have changed. Do you think this change is good or bad?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8308445439590899, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because things changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Things have changed. Do you think this change is good or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because that is how the whole world is moving if you do not know how to eat good food that is not good life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let me recall what you said. You told me that education has also contributed to the change in the diet or other people who came to this village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9231606043989887, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because that is how the whole world is moving if you do not know how to eat good food that is not good life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let me recall what you said. You told me that education has also contributed to the change in the diet or other people who came to this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at all. The new comers too eat the same foods we eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, what has contributed to this change is education or what is it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0257340048877652, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because that is how the whole world is moving if you do not know how to eat good food that is not good life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let me recall what you said. You told me that education has also contributed to the change in the diet or other people who came to this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at all. The new comers too eat the same foods we eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, what has contributed to this change is education or what is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think what has contributed are the many ceremonies people attend, meetings etc. Whereby they learn two to three things…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which they apply too?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1397044498752946, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at all. The new comers too eat the same foods we eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, what has contributed to this change is education or what is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think what has contributed are the many ceremonies people attend, meetings etc. Whereby they learn two to three things…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which they apply too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even in churches."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there Christians here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2663382776392162, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think what has contributed are the many ceremonies people attend, meetings etc. Whereby they learn two to three things…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which they apply too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even in churches."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there Christians here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think the churches have too contributed to the change of diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4070425307102403, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even in churches."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there Christians here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think the churches have too contributed to the change of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be they are taught that they cook this way and that way etc.?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5633805896780448, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think the churches have too contributed to the change of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be they are taught that they cook this way and that way etc.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, there are only two things that have contributed to the drought and there is no any other thing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7370895440867165, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be they are taught that they cook this way and that way etc.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, there are only two things that have contributed to the drought and there is no any other thing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean drought?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Or change in weather."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.930099493429685, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, there are only two things that have contributed to the drought and there is no any other thing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean drought?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Or change in weather."}, {"role": "user", "content": "However much it rains, today’s children do not want to take milk like in the past and just take little. If you cook food without vegetables, they do not eat, and when you cook ugali every day they won’t eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So mum, how is it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0334438815885387, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean drought?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Or change in weather."}, {"role": "user", "content": "However much it rains, today’s children do not want to take milk like in the past and just take little. If you cook food without vegetables, they do not eat, and when you cook ugali every day they won’t eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So mum, how is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will ask ‘mum where other foods are? You see I have brought cassava, arrowroots and sweet potatoes for breakfast because today is a market day and they told me what to buy, don’t you see they have relaxed?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…is there anything you can add concerning this change of diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1482709795428208, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "However much it rains, today’s children do not want to take milk like in the past and just take little. If you cook food without vegetables, they do not eat, and when you cook ugali every day they won’t eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So mum, how is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will ask ‘mum where other foods are? You see I have brought cassava, arrowroots and sweet potatoes for breakfast because today is a market day and they told me what to buy, don’t you see they have relaxed?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…is there anything you can add concerning this change of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can still go. I will talk to the mother then she will later take me to your brother’s home. Now mum you told me about changes in the diet for instance in the past you used to boil food but today it is fried. Do you think there are some foods that you used to eat in the past but are not there today?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:255", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2758566439364676, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will ask ‘mum where other foods are? You see I have brought cassava, arrowroots and sweet potatoes for breakfast because today is a market day and they told me what to buy, don’t you see they have relaxed?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…is there anything you can add concerning this change of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can still go. I will talk to the mother then she will later take me to your brother’s home. Now mum you told me about changes in the diet for instance in the past you used to boil food but today it is fried. Do you think there are some foods that you used to eat in the past but are not there today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You still eat them all?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:257", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4176184932627418, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can still go. I will talk to the mother then she will later take me to your brother’s home. Now mum you told me about changes in the diet for instance in the past you used to boil food but today it is fried. Do you think there are some foods that you used to eat in the past but are not there today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You still eat them all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we still eat them today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…I was asking the type of foods you used to eat in the past when you were young but you do not eat today. Which food is this?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5751316591808242, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You still eat them all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we still eat them today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…I was asking the type of foods you used to eat in the past when you were young but you do not eat today. Which food is this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now, we did not leave any food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be any food that you might have said we can no longer eat today but you used to eat in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:261", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7501462879786935, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we still eat them today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…I was asking the type of foods you used to eat in the past when you were young but you do not eat today. Which food is this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now, we did not leave any food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be any food that you might have said we can no longer eat today but you used to eat in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which other new food has come, do you eat chicken? The Maasai never ate chicken or eggs. Do you eat all this today?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:263", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9446069866429927, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now, we did not leave any food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be any food that you might have said we can no longer eat today but you used to eat in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which other new food has come, do you eat chicken? The Maasai never ate chicken or eggs. Do you eat all this today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Today we eat them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You eat them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:265", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.160674429603325, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which other new food has come, do you eat chicken? The Maasai never ate chicken or eggs. Do you eat all this today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Today we eat them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You eat them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nowadays you boil then fry, in which way do you think this has affected your family…is it good or bad?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:267", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.400749366225917, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Today we eat them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You eat them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nowadays you boil then fry, in which way do you think this has affected your family…is it good or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you see your children having good health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:269", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.667499295806574, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nowadays you boil then fry, in which way do you think this has affected your family…is it good or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you see your children having good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they grow up well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Change is good?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:271", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.963888106451749, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you see your children having good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they grow up well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Change is good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think it will have a negative impact on the children’s health for example the male and female children becoming lazy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:273", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.29320900716861, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they grow up well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Change is good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think it will have a negative impact on the children’s health for example the male and female children becoming lazy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Will the old Maasai tradition/culture remain the same or it will be eroded to some extend?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:277", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.065690132306926, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Will the old Maasai tradition/culture remain the same or it will be eroded to some extend?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will be eroded a bit"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know why but the Maasai of today have changed and are not like the old Maasai."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have they changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2952112581188064, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will be eroded a bit"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know why but the Maasai of today have changed and are not like the old Maasai."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have they changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past, the Maasai only knew to look after cattle and would it will take the whole day in the wild/bush grazing then come back in the evening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay let us now talk about milk. When you were, young and compared to today, do you think milk is still of great importance to you today?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:283", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5990262445911192, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past, the Maasai only knew to look after cattle and would it will take the whole day in the wild/bush grazing then come back in the evening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay let us now talk about milk. When you were, young and compared to today, do you think milk is still of great importance to you today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is still important to me today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very much?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm. I like it very much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What importance does it have or how does it help you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:285", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7766958273234656, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is still important to me today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very much?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm. I like it very much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What importance does it have or how does it help you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very good for children’s health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. Do you think milk is still there?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:287", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9741064748038506, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm. I like it very much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What importance does it have or how does it help you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very good for children’s health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. Do you think milk is still there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still there though scarce."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. Now is milk important in your household and also do you sell milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:289", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.193451638670945, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very good for children’s health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. Do you think milk is still there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still there though scarce."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. Now is milk important in your household and also do you sell milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, the milk helps you get money?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:293", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.707964986013512, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, the milk helps you get money?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Do you think drought affected you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:295", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.008849984459458, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Do you think drought affected you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it has affected me because some of my cows died but I still get milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you still milk your cows?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:297", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.343166649399398, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Do you think drought affected you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it has affected me because some of my cows died but I still get milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you still milk your cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many cows do you milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:299", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7146296104437755, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it has affected me because some of my cows died but I still get milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you still milk your cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many cows do you milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have cows that you milk at the moment?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:301", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.127366233826417, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many cows do you milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have cows that you milk at the moment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but others have been moved to another place where there is pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, the only cattle that remain here are those that are milked?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:303", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.585962482029353, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have cows that you milk at the moment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but others have been moved to another place where there is pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, the only cattle that remain here are those that are milked?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now is the milk important to the children or the adults?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:305", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.095513868921503, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but others have been moved to another place where there is pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, the only cattle that remain here are those that are milked?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now is the milk important to the children or the adults?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is important to all people but especially children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen that in other communities, it was difficult to find milk and I do not know if it is because of drought or it is the price that has gone up. Do you think it is true that milk is difficult to find?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:307", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.550570965468337, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now is the milk important to the children or the adults?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is important to all people but especially children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen that in other communities, it was difficult to find milk and I do not know if it is because of drought or it is the price that has gone up. Do you think it is true that milk is difficult to find?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is still available only that the drought that hit last year affected cattle and even if you milk your cow now, you only get what is enough for your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the cost of milk at the moment?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:311", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.2723098339115273, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is still available only that the drought that hit last year affected cattle and even if you milk your cow now, you only get what is enough for your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the cost of milk at the moment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One litre?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sell one litre at TSh 800."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of in the village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:313", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.41367759323503, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One litre?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sell one litre at TSh 800."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of in the village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the village, it costs up to TSH 1000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we may talk of milk when you compare when you were young and today, does it increase or decrease in quantity?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:315", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5707528813722555, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sell one litre at TSh 800."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of in the village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the village, it costs up to TSH 1000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we may talk of milk when you compare when you were young and today, does it increase or decrease in quantity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays milk is not like that of the past when we were young we had enough milk compared with today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now you say there was enough milk in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:317", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7452809793025061, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the village, it costs up to TSH 1000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we may talk of milk when you compare when you were young and today, does it increase or decrease in quantity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays milk is not like that of the past when we were young we had enough milk compared with today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now you say there was enough milk in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there was enough milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you say so?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:319", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9392010881138957, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays milk is not like that of the past when we were young we had enough milk compared with today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now you say there was enough milk in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there was enough milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you say so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because in those days, there was enough pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know what has contributed to scarcity of milk today just according to your opinion, what is the problem?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:321", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1546678756821063, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there was enough milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you say so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because in those days, there was enough pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know what has contributed to scarcity of milk today just according to your opinion, what is the problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the drought whereby the pastures dry up hence it is not enough for the cattle to feed on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…. Another thing apart from drought, have the Maasai stopped herding a large population of cattle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:323", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3940754174245624, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because in those days, there was enough pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know what has contributed to scarcity of milk today just according to your opinion, what is the problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the drought whereby the pastures dry up hence it is not enough for the cattle to feed on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…. Another thing apart from drought, have the Maasai stopped herding a large population of cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People still have huge herds of cattle and may be this big population of cattle might have contributed to the scarcity of grazing land"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you say the cattle population has led to reduced grazing land?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:327", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9556486634871137, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People still have huge herds of cattle and may be this big population of cattle might have contributed to the scarcity of grazing land"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you say the cattle population has led to reduced grazing land?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another thing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just see that as a major reason."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think a land conflict has led to the scarcity of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:329", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.2840540705412375, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another thing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just see that as a major reason."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think a land conflict has led to the scarcity of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which conflict?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance, a conflict between Maasai farmers and pastoralists?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:331", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5378378561569304, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just see that as a major reason."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think a land conflict has led to the scarcity of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which conflict?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance, a conflict between Maasai farmers and pastoralists?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has contributed too for instance as from the last two years, there has been conflicts especially during the dry spell where the pastoralists livestock destroy farmers crops when they take their livestock to drink water by the river hence you will find out that the conflict does not end as they quarrel over the water areas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, they disagree over water?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:333", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.819819840174367, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which conflict?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance, a conflict between Maasai farmers and pastoralists?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has contributed too for instance as from the last two years, there has been conflicts especially during the dry spell where the pastoralists livestock destroy farmers crops when they take their livestock to drink water by the river hence you will find out that the conflict does not end as they quarrel over the water areas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, they disagree over water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, conflict keeps on raging and the pastoralists are forced to move in groups so that in case of any fight, they will have power to defend themselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaaa, where is that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:335", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9109109335270742, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has contributed too for instance as from the last two years, there has been conflicts especially during the dry spell where the pastoralists livestock destroy farmers crops when they take their livestock to drink water by the river hence you will find out that the conflict does not end as they quarrel over the water areas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, they disagree over water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, conflict keeps on raging and the pastoralists are forced to move in groups so that in case of any fight, they will have power to defend themselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaaa, where is that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just here, a place called Mtingo and another one called Boga, it is just near here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay. Do we have other factors that may have contributed to scarcity of milk or it is just only those ones?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:337", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0121232594745269, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, conflict keeps on raging and the pastoralists are forced to move in groups so that in case of any fight, they will have power to defend themselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaaa, where is that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just here, a place called Mtingo and another one called Boga, it is just near here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay. Do we have other factors that may have contributed to scarcity of milk or it is just only those ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the cattle do not have enough grazing land."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think people today take milk like in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:339", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1245813994161409, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just here, a place called Mtingo and another one called Boga, it is just near here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay. Do we have other factors that may have contributed to scarcity of milk or it is just only those ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the cattle do not have enough grazing land."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think people today take milk like in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do you think might have contributed to this?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:343", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3883720980446181, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do you think might have contributed to this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be education has contributed to this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because you will find a child eating food throughout the day from morning to evening but for an adult, he eats ones and takes time before he/she takes another meal. In the past, we often took milk...we cooked normal rice then ate with milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…may be if I may mention the four factors, which one do you think is a major factor that may have contributed to a reduction/scarcity of milk. Firstly, you told me drought has led to lack of pasture for the cattle to feed on thus a reduction in milk production for example you said that in the past there was enough milk but nowadays milk is scarce. You have also told me that the grazing land has reduced and the cattle population has increased thus you will find out that getting enough pasture to feed cattle is a problem thus a reduction in milk. Another reason you said is the land conflict whereby the place where pastoralists used to take their livestock to drink water has been owned by farmers thus cattle have nowhere to drink water hence leading to lack of milk and lastly, nowadays people do not take milk as such like in the past. Out of all these four reasons, which one do you think has contributed much to scarcity of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:345", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.54263566449402, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be education has contributed to this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because you will find a child eating food throughout the day from morning to evening but for an adult, he eats ones and takes time before he/she takes another meal. In the past, we often took milk...we cooked normal rice then ate with milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…may be if I may mention the four factors, which one do you think is a major factor that may have contributed to a reduction/scarcity of milk. Firstly, you told me drought has led to lack of pasture for the cattle to feed on thus a reduction in milk production for example you said that in the past there was enough milk but nowadays milk is scarce. You have also told me that the grazing land has reduced and the cattle population has increased thus you will find out that getting enough pasture to feed cattle is a problem thus a reduction in milk. Another reason you said is the land conflict whereby the place where pastoralists used to take their livestock to drink water has been owned by farmers thus cattle have nowhere to drink water hence leading to lack of milk and lastly, nowadays people do not take milk as such like in the past. Out of all these four reasons, which one do you think has contributed much to scarcity of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Especially when a cow lacks where to graze, it will not grow healthy and it will not produce milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm… now between the past years and nowadays, when do you think you had many cattle?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:347", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7140396272155778, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because you will find a child eating food throughout the day from morning to evening but for an adult, he eats ones and takes time before he/she takes another meal. In the past, we often took milk...we cooked normal rice then ate with milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm…may be if I may mention the four factors, which one do you think is a major factor that may have contributed to a reduction/scarcity of milk. Firstly, you told me drought has led to lack of pasture for the cattle to feed on thus a reduction in milk production for example you said that in the past there was enough milk but nowadays milk is scarce. You have also told me that the grazing land has reduced and the cattle population has increased thus you will find out that getting enough pasture to feed cattle is a problem thus a reduction in milk. Another reason you said is the land conflict whereby the place where pastoralists used to take their livestock to drink water has been owned by farmers thus cattle have nowhere to drink water hence leading to lack of milk and lastly, nowadays people do not take milk as such like in the past. Out of all these four reasons, which one do you think has contributed much to scarcity of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Especially when a cow lacks where to graze, it will not grow healthy and it will not produce milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm… now between the past years and nowadays, when do you think you had many cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is in the past because there was enough grazing land unlike today whereby the land is small and nowhere to graze."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we may talk of food in your household, who goes to the market to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:349", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9044884746839752, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Especially when a cow lacks where to graze, it will not grow healthy and it will not produce milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm… now between the past years and nowadays, when do you think you had many cattle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is in the past because there was enough grazing land unlike today whereby the land is small and nowhere to graze."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we may talk of food in your household, who goes to the market to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the husband who goes to buy food but sometimes I too go to buy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you send your children to go and buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:351", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.116098305204417, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is in the past because there was enough grazing land unlike today whereby the land is small and nowhere to graze."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we may talk of food in your household, who goes to the market to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the husband who goes to buy food but sometimes I too go to buy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you send your children to go and buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we do not send them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which foodstuffs do you commonly buy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:353", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.351220339116019, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the husband who goes to buy food but sometimes I too go to buy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you send your children to go and buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we do not send them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which foodstuffs do you commonly buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy foodstuffs like cassava, banana, sweet potatoes and arrowroots because we cultivate maize and rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you grow rice?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:355", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6124670434622432, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we do not send them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which foodstuffs do you commonly buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy foodstuffs like cassava, banana, sweet potatoes and arrowroots because we cultivate maize and rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you grow rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And who makes the decision on which food to buy do you sit down with your husband or he decides himself and goes to buy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:357", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9027411594024923, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy foodstuffs like cassava, banana, sweet potatoes and arrowroots because we cultivate maize and rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you grow rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And who makes the decision on which food to buy do you sit down with your husband or he decides himself and goes to buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we both sit down and plan together. When we walk up in the morning, I look around to find what is lacking then we arrange then he goes to the market to buy or when I am going to the market I buy the items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it just depends who will buy the items on that day?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:359", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.225267954891658, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And who makes the decision on which food to buy do you sit down with your husband or he decides himself and goes to buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we both sit down and plan together. When we walk up in the morning, I look around to find what is lacking then we arrange then he goes to the market to buy or when I am going to the market I buy the items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it just depends who will buy the items on that day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For now where does he buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:361", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3614088387685084, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we both sit down and plan together. When we walk up in the morning, I look around to find what is lacking then we arrange then he goes to the market to buy or when I am going to the market I buy the items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it just depends who will buy the items on that day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For now where does he buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He just buys them here in the village when there is a market day in Mikindo or there at Dakawa."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is the Dakawa market the one in Mkongeni?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:363", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5126764875205647, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For now where does he buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He just buys them here in the village when there is a market day in Mikindo or there at Dakawa."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is the Dakawa market the one in Mkongeni?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when is the market day here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:367", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6329339352105738, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when is the market day here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On Friday."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Today Friday?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you were born in this village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:369", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7032599280117486, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "On Friday."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Today Friday?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you were born in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since then, has that market place been there?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:371", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.781399920013054, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you were born in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since then, has that market place been there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was there but was on the other side of Mikindo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, it has been moved to this side?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:373", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8682221333478378, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since then, has that market place been there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was there but was on the other side of Mikindo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, it has been moved to this side?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is now both in Mikindo and here in this village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it has been moved this way after you have grown up?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:375", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9646912592753754, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was there but was on the other side of Mikindo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, it has been moved to this side?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is now both in Mikindo and here in this village."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it has been moved this way after you have grown up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. Which foods do you buy from this market now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:379", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1909768633029325, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. Which foods do you buy from this market now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this market?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just buy arrowroot, cassava, banana, pumpkin leaves, green vegetables, beans and meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now in your family, which food do you prefer to eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:381", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3233076258921472, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this market?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just buy arrowroot, cassava, banana, pumpkin leaves, green vegetables, beans and meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now in your family, which food do you prefer to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat all kinds of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now I want to ask you a question that concerns you as a cook. Are you the one who cooks food here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:383", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.47034180654683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just buy arrowroot, cassava, banana, pumpkin leaves, green vegetables, beans and meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now in your family, which food do you prefer to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat all kinds of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now I want to ask you a question that concerns you as a cook. Are you the one who cooks food here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As a cook, you may decide that today I am cooking ugali, rice or bananas. What is it that makes decide to cook those meals?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:385", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.6337131183853668, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat all kinds of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now I want to ask you a question that concerns you as a cook. Are you the one who cooks food here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As a cook, you may decide that today I am cooking ugali, rice or bananas. What is it that makes decide to cook those meals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just me who decides."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it because it is available or it is because you feel like eating a particular food that day?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:387", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.704125687094852, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As a cook, you may decide that today I am cooking ugali, rice or bananas. What is it that makes decide to cook those meals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just me who decides."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it because it is available or it is because you feel like eating a particular food that day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that way. It is just we look at what we ate during the day then change in the afternoon for example if we ate ugali during the day, then we change to a different meal like banana in the evening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it is because that meal is available too, isn’t?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:389", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7823618745498355, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just me who decides."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it because it is available or it is because you feel like eating a particular food that day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that way. It is just we look at what we ate during the day then change in the afternoon for example if we ate ugali during the day, then we change to a different meal like banana in the evening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it is because that meal is available too, isn’t?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is another reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:391", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8692909717220394, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that way. It is just we look at what we ate during the day then change in the afternoon for example if we ate ugali during the day, then we change to a different meal like banana in the evening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it is because that meal is available too, isn’t?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is another reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just cook and people just eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, you cook the food because it is there?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:393", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9658788574689327, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is another reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just cook and people just eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, you cook the food because it is there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a day whereby your husband has decided to buy another food despite having food in the house or he says today I do not want this food or a child asks you mum today we want to eat a different meal?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:395", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0731987305210362, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just cook and people just eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, you cook the food because it is there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a day whereby your husband has decided to buy another food despite having food in the house or he says today I do not want this food or a child asks you mum today we want to eat a different meal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If he does not feel like eating ugali, rice or bananas, he will buy a different food he wants and I will prepare for him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm so depends with a person?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:399", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3249367043469582, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If he does not feel like eating ugali, rice or bananas, he will buy a different food he wants and I will prepare for him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm so depends with a person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No other reasons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really? Could it be maybe they heard or saw a friend in school then they come and tell that mum we want this and that food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:403", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6357243263542693, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No other reasons."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really? Could it be maybe they heard or saw a friend in school then they come and tell that mum we want this and that food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think that is the reason because today’s child just wakes up in the morning and says mum today we eat a different meal for instance if he/she ate ugali for lunch, he/she would want a different food for dinner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason? Have you ever been taught about a full diet that contains green vegetables, fruits etc.?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:405", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.817471473726966, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think that is the reason because today’s child just wakes up in the morning and says mum today we eat a different meal for instance if he/she ate ugali for lunch, he/she would want a different food for dinner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason? Have you ever been taught about a full diet that contains green vegetables, fruits etc.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance, a full meal must contain for example vegetables in that if you cook ugali, it should not be ugali and meat alone but combined with green vegetables in order to be a full meal?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:407", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.0194127485855176, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think that is the reason because today’s child just wakes up in the morning and says mum today we eat a different meal for instance if he/she ate ugali for lunch, he/she would want a different food for dinner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason? Have you ever been taught about a full diet that contains green vegetables, fruits etc.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance, a full meal must contain for example vegetables in that if you cook ugali, it should not be ugali and meat alone but combined with green vegetables in order to be a full meal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Out of the three things you mentioned, you said the availability of food that is if there is food in the house you will prepare it, Second is the appetite that is if the child has no appetite for eating the food e.g. The child says that mum today I want to eat rice, or the husband says today I want to eat ugali with meat, or yourself say today I feel like eating bananas, let me tell my husband to buy it or lastly education which has taught people to mix up food when cooking. What is the major reason that makes you cook a particular food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:409", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.132680831761686, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For instance, a full meal must contain for example vegetables in that if you cook ugali, it should not be ugali and meat alone but combined with green vegetables in order to be a full meal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Out of the three things you mentioned, you said the availability of food that is if there is food in the house you will prepare it, Second is the appetite that is if the child has no appetite for eating the food e.g. The child says that mum today I want to eat rice, or the husband says today I want to eat ugali with meat, or yourself say today I feel like eating bananas, let me tell my husband to buy it or lastly education which has taught people to mix up food when cooking. What is the major reason that makes you cook a particular food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mostly it is the husband and secondly the children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are the ones who determine what you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:411", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2585342575129845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Out of the three things you mentioned, you said the availability of food that is if there is food in the house you will prepare it, Second is the appetite that is if the child has no appetite for eating the food e.g. The child says that mum today I want to eat rice, or the husband says today I want to eat ugali with meat, or yourself say today I feel like eating bananas, let me tell my husband to buy it or lastly education which has taught people to mix up food when cooking. What is the major reason that makes you cook a particular food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mostly it is the husband and secondly the children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are the ones who determine what you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be if you look at a time when you were young, have you experienced a time when there was food shortage, there was hunger, no money etc.?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:413", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3983713972366494, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mostly it is the husband and secondly the children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are the ones who determine what you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be if you look at a time when you were young, have you experienced a time when there was food shortage, there was hunger, no money etc.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It has never happened, what of when you had grown up, was there a time when hunger struck?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:415", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5537459969296104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be if you look at a time when you were young, have you experienced a time when there was food shortage, there was hunger, no money etc.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It has never happened, what of when you had grown up, was there a time when hunger struck?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you affected by the recent hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:421", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1313388160900004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we were not affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we have cattle and can sell one to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it has never happened to you completely?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:423", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3681542401000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we have cattle and can sell one to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it has never happened to you completely?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But has it happened to others?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:425", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6312824890000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we have cattle and can sell one to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it has never happened to you completely?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But has it happened to others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it has happened to others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how have you survived, what is the reason behind or what have you done to avoid all these?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:427", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9236472100000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But has it happened to others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it has happened to others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how have you survived, what is the reason behind or what have you done to avoid all these?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What we did so that we do not have food shortage is we do farming and keep the food. So, you see if there is food in the house, there is no problem as you only look for vegetables and cooking fat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, what you did was farming and that is why you do not have food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:429", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2484969, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it has happened to others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how have you survived, what is the reason behind or what have you done to avoid all these?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What we did so that we do not have food shortage is we do farming and keep the food. So, you see if there is food in the house, there is no problem as you only look for vegetables and cooking fat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, what you did was farming and that is why you do not have food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for now everybody does farming. I see it is very important to do farming because when you have food in the house you just take to the mill and grind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you advised those who suffer from hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:431", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.609441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What we did so that we do not have food shortage is we do farming and keep the food. So, you see if there is food in the house, there is no problem as you only look for vegetables and cooking fat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, what you did was farming and that is why you do not have food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for now everybody does farming. I see it is very important to do farming because when you have food in the house you just take to the mill and grind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you advised those who suffer from hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now, most of the people are advised to plant crops but others do not take the advice and rely on others to do farming so that he/she buys from them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you plant this year?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:433", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.01049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, for now everybody does farming. I see it is very important to do farming because when you have food in the house you just take to the mill and grind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you advised those who suffer from hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now, most of the people are advised to plant crops but others do not take the advice and rely on others to do farming so that he/she buys from them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you plant this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many bags of maize did you get?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:435", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.4561, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now, most of the people are advised to plant crops but others do not take the advice and rely on others to do farming so that he/she buys from them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you plant this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many bags of maize did you get?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I harvested two bags."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many acres did you cultivate?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:437", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.729, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many bags of maize did you get?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I harvested two bags."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many acres did you cultivate?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cultivated two acres of rice and five acres of maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…how was the maize harvest?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:439", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I harvested two bags."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many acres did you cultivate?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cultivated two acres of rice and five acres of maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…how was the maize harvest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grow maize on farms outside Handeni at a place called Mziha"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay is that the route to Handeni that passes through Madizini?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:441", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cultivated two acres of rice and five acres of maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…how was the maize harvest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grow maize on farms outside Handeni at a place called Mziha"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay is that the route to Handeni that passes through Madizini?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that is the route."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You harvested how many bags?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:443", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grow maize on farms outside Handeni at a place called Mziha"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay is that the route to Handeni that passes through Madizini?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that is the route."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You harvested how many bags?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others have been sold and what is remaining is for family consumption."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Will the food be enough to take you till the season?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:445", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that is the route."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You harvested how many bags?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others have been sold and what is remaining is for family consumption."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Will the food be enough to take you till the season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it will take us to the next harvesting season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were young, what did you do to ensure that you do not face hunger/food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:447", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others have been sold and what is remaining is for family consumption."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Will the food be enough to take you till the season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it will take us to the next harvesting season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were young, what did you do to ensure that you do not face hunger/food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During that time, it is only my father who was cultivating food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…when you were young, what did you do to ensure that you do not face food shortage, were you cultivating food or what were you doing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:451", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "During that time, it is only my father who was cultivating food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…when you were young, what did you do to ensure that you do not face food shortage, were you cultivating food or what were you doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During that time?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "During that time, my father was practicing farming and I was young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And you have not slept hungry?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:453", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "During that time?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "During that time, my father was practicing farming and I was young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And you have not slept hungry?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. Let us go to the last question. There is education that focuses on diet…that one should eat good food…one should eat this and that food. I mean this kind of education on the type of food people should eat in order to get good health, where do you find this type of education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:455", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "During that time, my father was practicing farming and I was young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And you have not slept hungry?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. Let us go to the last question. There is education that focuses on diet…that one should eat good food…one should eat this and that food. I mean this kind of education on the type of food people should eat in order to get good health, where do you find this type of education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not received any education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even when you go to the clinic, do not they teach you that you eat a particular food or you have not even gone to a seminar whereby you are taught on what to eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:457", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fine. Let us go to the last question. There is education that focuses on diet…that one should eat good food…one should eat this and that food. I mean this kind of education on the type of food people should eat in order to get good health, where do you find this type of education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not received any education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even when you go to the clinic, do not they teach you that you eat a particular food or you have not even gone to a seminar whereby you are taught on what to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of church?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:459", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not received any education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even when you go to the clinic, do not they teach you that you eat a particular food or you have not even gone to a seminar whereby you are taught on what to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of church?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, where did you learn this from e.g. boiling food, frying etc.?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:461", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of church?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, where did you learn this from e.g. boiling food, frying etc.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just learn them from the ceremonies when we go there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you see how others fry/prepare food and you learn from them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:463", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, where did you learn this from e.g. boiling food, frying etc.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just learn them from the ceremonies when we go there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you see how others fry/prepare food and you learn from them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…you see how they cook…this way and that way and you also go and cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You also emulate the same?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:465", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just learn them from the ceremonies when we go there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you see how others fry/prepare food and you learn from them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…you see how they cook…this way and that way and you also go and cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You also emulate the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah…do you have a clinic here or a hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:467", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…you see how they cook…this way and that way and you also go and cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You also emulate the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah…do you have a clinic here or a hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we do have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you go there, do they tell you to eat fruits or green vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:469", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah…do you have a clinic here or a hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we do have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you go there, do they tell you to eat fruits or green vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they do tell us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of in the church, do they talk about the same issue?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:471", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we do have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you go there, do they tell you to eat fruits or green vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they do tell us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of in the church, do they talk about the same issue?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is the last question. I want you to tell me for instance if people want to come and train or teach people in your village on the issue of diet, how to cook, and the foods to be cooked, which foods should be available. If something is about to initiated will you accept or refuse?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:473", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they do tell us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of in the church, do they talk about the same issue?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is the last question. I want you to tell me for instance if people want to come and train or teach people in your village on the issue of diet, how to cook, and the foods to be cooked, which foods should be available. If something is about to initiated will you accept or refuse?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We will accept."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you want that education, how should it be brought, Should they come to the house or how should it be?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:477", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We will accept."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you want that education, how should it be brought, Should they come to the house or how should it be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean to educate people?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They can call and teach us from just here in the village. If they come then call us we will go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you want to be called and then be educated?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:479", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean to educate people?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They can call and teach us from just here in the village. If they come then call us we will go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you want to be called and then be educated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hahaaa…."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how should it be announced is it through schools, or through church or through the mosque. Do you have mosques here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:481", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They can call and teach us from just here in the village. If they come then call us we will go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you want to be called and then be educated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hahaaa…."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how should it be announced is it through schools, or through church or through the mosque. Do you have mosques here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you have sheikhs here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:483", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hahaaa…."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how should it be announced is it through schools, or through church or through the mosque. Do you have mosques here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you have sheikhs here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have the sheikhs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of radios or how should we do it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:485", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you have sheikhs here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have the sheikhs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of radios or how should we do it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that we can here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes…till you here that there is a meeting in a particular day."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:487", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have the sheikhs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of radios or how should we do it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that we can here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes…till you here that there is a meeting in a particular day."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even if they come to the village there is a village chair, they will just tell him that they have come with this and that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that people should prepare?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:489", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that we can here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes…till you here that there is a meeting in a particular day."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even if they come to the village there is a village chair, they will just tell him that they have come with this and that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that people should prepare?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now whom do you think should receive this education about diet, who do you think should receive. Is it the mother, father or children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:491", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even if they come to the village there is a village chair, they will just tell him that they have come with this and that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that people should prepare?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now whom do you think should receive this education about diet, who do you think should receive. Is it the mother, father or children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think all of us should receive this education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But who specifically?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:493", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now whom do you think should receive this education about diet, who do you think should receive. Is it the mother, father or children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think all of us should receive this education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But who specifically?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…you favour yourselves, and why the mother?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:495", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think all of us should receive this education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But who specifically?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…you favour yourselves, and why the mother?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the mother who knows more about food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah…I appreciate very much that I have exhausted my questions just as we have talked stories like that the way I have lost your time …."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:497", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa…you favour yourselves, and why the mother?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the mother who knows more about food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah…I appreciate very much that I have exhausted my questions just as we have talked stories like that the way I have lost your time …."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But if you have any questions, you may ask."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:499", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the mother who knows more about food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah…I appreciate very much that I have exhausted my questions just as we have talked stories like that the way I have lost your time …."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But if you have any questions, you may ask."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No questions. I was just asking. For how long will these interviews take?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah. You know we have many departments at the University in Morogoro, We have livestock department, food department, and agriculture department you will find out that others will come here to interview on different topics. For example, today I have come here specifically on the issue of food and nutrition. You will find out that others will come and interview you on the farming and the challenges that you go through so that they advise policy makers. For instance, you said that you take your cattle to Kilosa for herding, before you take them there, you will first go and see whether there is pasture or not. Therefore, one has to go to Kilosa to find out if it is conducive for herding cattle. For example, there must be pasture, water etc. Isn’t that true?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:501", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But if you have any questions, you may ask."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No questions. I was just asking. For how long will these interviews take?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah. You know we have many departments at the University in Morogoro, We have livestock department, food department, and agriculture department you will find out that others will come here to interview on different topics. For example, today I have come here specifically on the issue of food and nutrition. You will find out that others will come and interview you on the farming and the challenges that you go through so that they advise policy makers. For instance, you said that you take your cattle to Kilosa for herding, before you take them there, you will first go and see whether there is pasture or not. Therefore, one has to go to Kilosa to find out if it is conducive for herding cattle. For example, there must be pasture, water etc. Isn’t that true?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, that you know the challenges that someone is going through for instance I have come here to ask you questions so that I know this and that are the challenges that you go through and lastly, I asked if you want a project, in which way should it be initiated, who should receive that education. Therefore, this is just a continuation. If there is project to be done, we tell them to go to Kambala because of one or two challenges their facing."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00022:503", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No questions. I was just asking. For how long will these interviews take?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah. You know we have many departments at the University in Morogoro, We have livestock department, food department, and agriculture department you will find out that others will come here to interview on different topics. For example, today I have come here specifically on the issue of food and nutrition. You will find out that others will come and interview you on the farming and the challenges that you go through so that they advise policy makers. For instance, you said that you take your cattle to Kilosa for herding, before you take them there, you will first go and see whether there is pasture or not. Therefore, one has to go to Kilosa to find out if it is conducive for herding cattle. For example, there must be pasture, water etc. Isn’t that true?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, that you know the challenges that someone is going through for instance I have come here to ask you questions so that I know this and that are the challenges that you go through and lastly, I asked if you want a project, in which way should it be initiated, who should receive that education. Therefore, this is just a continuation. If there is project to be done, we tell them to go to Kambala because of one or two challenges their facing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeeh…it is okay. Now we have come to the end of our conversation."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.782822132710397, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have been here for 7 years now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for how long you have been a leader in your village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am in this position for 5 years now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We were here in February this year (2017), from February to this month, what changes have you observed in your village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no changes at all, other than conflicts between pastoralists and farmers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can you say about it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.98091348078933, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am in this position for 5 years now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We were here in February this year (2017), from February to this month, what changes have you observed in your village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no changes at all, other than conflicts between pastoralists and farmers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can you say about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It happens when cattle enter in some ones farm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are rich households increasing or decreasing in your village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.201014978654811, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no changes at all, other than conflicts between pastoralists and farmers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can you say about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It happens when cattle enter in some ones farm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are rich households increasing or decreasing in your village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still the same"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really, not increasing or decreasing at all throughout the year, or comparing February to now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.445572198505346, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It happens when cattle enter in some ones farm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are rich households increasing or decreasing in your village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still the same"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really, not increasing or decreasing at all throughout the year, or comparing February to now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To some point yes, very few households."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about poor households; are they increasing or decreasing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.7173024427837174, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is still the same"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really, not increasing or decreasing at all throughout the year, or comparing February to now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To some point yes, very few households."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about poor households; are they increasing or decreasing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are decreasing to some extent but not that much"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the cause of those changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.1201264725724904, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are decreasing to some extent but not that much"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the cause of those changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rich households have decreased due to reduction in the number of cattle and it is because of too much drought which happened last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any other reason"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does this change affect your community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.244584969524989, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rich households have decreased due to reduction in the number of cattle and it is because of too much drought which happened last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any other reason"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does this change affect your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As you know the Masai depend on livestock so when cattle die it is like they lack the most important food such as milk and meat. Now people are looking for another alternative activity apart from depending only on cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how does this change effect on how people eat in the community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.382872188361099, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any other reason"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does this change affect your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As you know the Masai depend on livestock so when cattle die it is like they lack the most important food such as milk and meat. Now people are looking for another alternative activity apart from depending only on cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how does this change effect on how people eat in the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It does, because other people used to eat three meals per day, or even drink only milk throughout the day because there was availability of milk, but recently it has become hard, you need to sell something in order to get money to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happened recently which made lack of food in your community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5365246537345545, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As you know the Masai depend on livestock so when cattle die it is like they lack the most important food such as milk and meat. Now people are looking for another alternative activity apart from depending only on cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how does this change effect on how people eat in the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It does, because other people used to eat three meals per day, or even drink only milk throughout the day because there was availability of milk, but recently it has become hard, you need to sell something in order to get money to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happened recently which made lack of food in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This time there was this insect which attacked maize, so we did not get enough food this time around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of markets around?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5961385041495049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It does, because other people used to eat three meals per day, or even drink only milk throughout the day because there was availability of milk, but recently it has become hard, you need to sell something in order to get money to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happened recently which made lack of food in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This time there was this insect which attacked maize, so we did not get enough food this time around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of markets around?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Mela there is no market, we don’t practice business activity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about firewood for cooking?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6623761157216721, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This time there was this insect which attacked maize, so we did not get enough food this time around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of markets around?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Mela there is no market, we don’t practice business activity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about firewood for cooking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We go look in the forest, we don’t use charcoal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can you say about availability of water?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.735973461912969, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Mela there is no market, we don’t practice business activity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about firewood for cooking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We go look in the forest, we don’t use charcoal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can you say about availability of water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are taps around but we don’t get water every day,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the obstacles for getting regular supply of water in your community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8177482910144099, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We go look in the forest, we don’t use charcoal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can you say about availability of water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are taps around but we don’t get water every day,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the obstacles for getting regular supply of water in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know, but also there is one well which is not enough for every household and livestock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does a family overcome this issue of lack of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9086092122382332, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are taps around but we don’t get water every day,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the obstacles for getting regular supply of water in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know, but also there is one well which is not enough for every household and livestock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does a family overcome this issue of lack of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They overcome by selling cattle and get money to buy food, but when someone does not have enough cattle to sell is when he/she suffers a lot from food shortage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you normally do in order to make sure that every household has enough food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0095657913758147, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know, but also there is one well which is not enough for every household and livestock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does a family overcome this issue of lack of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They overcome by selling cattle and get money to buy food, but when someone does not have enough cattle to sell is when he/she suffers a lot from food shortage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you normally do in order to make sure that every household has enough food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "sell the cattle and buy food in order for the children and old ones that are in the family, because they cannot stay for long without eating and also they can’t go far to look for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who suffers a lot during this time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.246377520217055, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "sell the cattle and buy food in order for the children and old ones that are in the family, because they cannot stay for long without eating and also they can’t go far to look for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who suffers a lot during this time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Disabled, because they can’t work or perform any task that can make them be paid"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our tradition, women depend on men; if they don’t do anything then we starve, because men are the ones that are capable and able to sell or even to do other activity to generate income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about children? Do they also suffer or not?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.538737679280315, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our tradition, women depend on men; if they don’t do anything then we starve, because men are the ones that are capable and able to sell or even to do other activity to generate income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about children? Do they also suffer or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do suffer a lot, if the food is not enough to satisfy them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Elders?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They suffer but not to the extent like children unless they are too old to move from one place to another but otherwise they are able to go look for food elsewhere."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you think that these groups do suffer a lot when there is shortage of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7097085325336832, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do suffer a lot, if the food is not enough to satisfy them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Elders?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They suffer but not to the extent like children unless they are too old to move from one place to another but otherwise they are able to go look for food elsewhere."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you think that these groups do suffer a lot when there is shortage of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because this time around people did not cultivate enough, due to too much drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, what do you think should be done to eradicate this problem in your community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.899676147259648, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They suffer but not to the extent like children unless they are too old to move from one place to another but otherwise they are able to go look for food elsewhere."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you think that these groups do suffer a lot when there is shortage of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because this time around people did not cultivate enough, due to too much drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, what do you think should be done to eradicate this problem in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People should start to engage themselves in agriculture rather than to depend only on one type of livelihood; through this approach it will help to eradicate this problem and children will not suffer much. In addition it will help to provide enough pasture for the cattle in order to produce enough milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can availability of water help to solve this problem of shortage of food in your society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9996401636218312, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because this time around people did not cultivate enough, due to too much drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, what do you think should be done to eradicate this problem in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People should start to engage themselves in agriculture rather than to depend only on one type of livelihood; through this approach it will help to eradicate this problem and children will not suffer much. In addition it will help to provide enough pasture for the cattle in order to produce enough milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can availability of water help to solve this problem of shortage of food in your society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For this year in some places there were floods which made maize not to grow so well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "NOW WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WEATHER AND ENVIRONMENT CHANGE IN GENERAL As we were here before/earlier, we would like to know what changes have happened during this time like from February to October this year? (2017)"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1107112929131457, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People should start to engage themselves in agriculture rather than to depend only on one type of livelihood; through this approach it will help to eradicate this problem and children will not suffer much. In addition it will help to provide enough pasture for the cattle in order to produce enough milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can availability of water help to solve this problem of shortage of food in your society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For this year in some places there were floods which made maize not to grow so well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "NOW WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WEATHER AND ENVIRONMENT CHANGE IN GENERAL As we were here before/earlier, we would like to know what changes have happened during this time like from February to October this year? (2017)"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This year changes are not as bad as last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What environmental changes that have happened so far?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.234123658792384, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For this year in some places there were floods which made maize not to grow so well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "NOW WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WEATHER AND ENVIRONMENT CHANGE IN GENERAL As we were here before/earlier, we would like to know what changes have happened during this time like from February to October this year? (2017)"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This year changes are not as bad as last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What environmental changes that have happened so far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "last year was worse, too much heat, drought, hunger, but for this year it was not so much bad"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Comparing two years back what can you say?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3712485097693157, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This year changes are not as bad as last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What environmental changes that have happened so far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "last year was worse, too much heat, drought, hunger, but for this year it was not so much bad"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Comparing two years back what can you say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year, we experienced significant changes that have never happened before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Comparing 2-5 years back what can you say about environment or weather changes in general?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.41249834418812853, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "last year was worse, too much heat, drought, hunger, but for this year it was not so much bad"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Comparing two years back what can you say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year, we experienced significant changes that have never happened before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Comparing 2-5 years back what can you say about environment or weather changes in general?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are changes, but changes for these past three years things were not so good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these changes affect the society or community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.458331493542365, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Last year, we experienced significant changes that have never happened before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Comparing 2-5 years back what can you say about environment or weather changes in general?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are changes, but changes for these past three years things were not so good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these changes affect the society or community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we got affected, like there was no enough food, water, milk, and pasture for cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cattle feeds?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5092572150470722, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are changes, but changes for these past three years things were not so good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these changes affect the society or community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we got affected, like there was no enough food, water, milk, and pasture for cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cattle feeds?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no enough feed, even water last year the situation was terrible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "after all these changes, how did people’s role/responsibility change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5658413500523024, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we got affected, like there was no enough food, water, milk, and pasture for cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cattle feeds?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no enough feed, even water last year the situation was terrible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "after all these changes, how did people’s role/responsibility change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some people tend to do other activity in order to get something for the family, like cook buns and sell to other people just to get money,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many cattle can a person own by that time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6287126111692248, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no enough feed, even water last year the situation was terrible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "after all these changes, how did people’s role/responsibility change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some people tend to do other activity in order to get something for the family, like cook buns and sell to other people just to get money,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many cattle can a person own by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From 200-500"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even during this dry season?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6985695679658054, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some people tend to do other activity in order to get something for the family, like cook buns and sell to other people just to get money,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many cattle can a person own by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From 200-500"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even during this dry season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "NO,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about availability of food during this dry season?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7761884088508948, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From 200-500"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even during this dry season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "NO,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about availability of food during this dry season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it about the price or?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8624315653898831, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "NO,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about availability of food during this dry season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it about the price or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Price can also be a reason."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about milk availability?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9582572948776479, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it about the price or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Price can also be a reason."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about milk availability?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it is hard to get milk when the same cattle are suffering from drought, no food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "NOW I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY AND ROLES IN THE HOUSEHOLD What do men do during this dry season?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.064730327641831, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Price can also be a reason."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about milk availability?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it is hard to get milk when the same cattle are suffering from drought, no food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "NOW I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY AND ROLES IN THE HOUSEHOLD What do men do during this dry season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s only men that perform other ask during this dry season. Women milk the cattle, cook for the family, fetch water and perform other home activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During the rainy season, what do men and women do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1830336973798121, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it is hard to get milk when the same cattle are suffering from drought, no food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "NOW I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY AND ROLES IN THE HOUSEHOLD What do men do during this dry season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s only men that perform other ask during this dry season. Women milk the cattle, cook for the family, fetch water and perform other home activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During the rainy season, what do men and women do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women tend to sell milk to other neighbours in the community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have heard a lot about conflict between pastoralist and farmers, so which season do this conflicts increase, is it during dry/rainy season?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3144818859775689, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s only men that perform other ask during this dry season. Women milk the cattle, cook for the family, fetch water and perform other home activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "During the rainy season, what do men and women do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women tend to sell milk to other neighbours in the community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have heard a lot about conflict between pastoralist and farmers, so which season do this conflicts increase, is it during dry/rainy season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Conflicts increase because cattle move from one place to another in search of pasture and water and this happens only during dry season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the community cope with this situation, as cattle move?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6228171431821836, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Conflicts increase because cattle move from one place to another in search of pasture and water and this happens only during dry season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the community cope with this situation, as cattle move?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they manage because when they are back even the season would have changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children eat other kinds of foods apart from milk as they are used to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is the reason or cause for some Maasai now that they are cultivating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8031301590913151, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they manage because when they are back even the season would have changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children eat other kinds of foods apart from milk as they are used to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is the reason or cause for some Maasai now that they are cultivating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Availability of farms made others to start cultivating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there changes in education, and culture?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8923668434347944, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children eat other kinds of foods apart from milk as they are used to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is the reason or cause for some Maasai now that they are cultivating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Availability of farms made others to start cultivating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there changes in education, and culture?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In education there are changes because in previous days our children did not go to school, but now they go and some of them they can even reached university level. About culture, in our community to some extent conflicts have reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made conflicts not to happen?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9915187149275494, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Availability of farms made others to start cultivating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there changes in education, and culture?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In education there are changes because in previous days our children did not go to school, but now they go and some of them they can even reached university level. About culture, in our community to some extent conflicts have reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made conflicts not to happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It just happened that there are no conflicts in our community recently."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If someone shifts to your community what are the procedures?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1016874610306104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In education there are changes because in previous days our children did not go to school, but now they go and some of them they can even reached university level. About culture, in our community to some extent conflicts have reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made conflicts not to happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It just happened that there are no conflicts in our community recently."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If someone shifts to your community what are the procedures?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She/he has to report to the village leader"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now would like to talk about changes in women responsibility like before women were not supposed to go graze or even do other activities"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2240971789229005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It just happened that there are no conflicts in our community recently."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If someone shifts to your community what are the procedures?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She/he has to report to the village leader"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now would like to talk about changes in women responsibility like before women were not supposed to go graze or even do other activities"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in previous times women did not do those activities apart from staying at home and cook, but nowadays they go graze, and also do small business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When women go graze does it affect the family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3601079765810005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She/he has to report to the village leader"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now would like to talk about changes in women responsibility like before women were not supposed to go graze or even do other activities"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in previous times women did not do those activities apart from staying at home and cook, but nowadays they go graze, and also do small business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When women go graze does it affect the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At some point yes, due to them going to do business and leave children at home without enough food, and tend to take long time to return home so you may find children are suffering. CHANGES IN CULTURE"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are constant movements of people in your society, does it affect your society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5112310850900004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in previous times women did not do those activities apart from staying at home and cook, but nowadays they go graze, and also do small business."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When women go graze does it affect the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At some point yes, due to them going to do business and leave children at home without enough food, and tend to take long time to return home so you may find children are suffering. CHANGES IN CULTURE"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are constant movements of people in your society, does it affect your society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This happens when they shift to look for feeds"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who exactly shifts during that period?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6791456501000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At some point yes, due to them going to do business and leave children at home without enough food, and tend to take long time to return home so you may find children are suffering. CHANGES IN CULTURE"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are constant movements of people in your society, does it affect your society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This happens when they shift to look for feeds"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who exactly shifts during that period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Youth, because they are the ones who look after the cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who are the ones who remain behind?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8657173890000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This happens when they shift to look for feeds"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who exactly shifts during that period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Youth, because they are the ones who look after the cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who are the ones who remain behind?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children, elders, mothers and sometimes head of the house, because the youth are the ones who are responsible though it may happen even the father may go with them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long do they stay there?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9619082100000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Youth, because they are the ones who look after the cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who are the ones who remain behind?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children, elders, mothers and sometimes head of the house, because the youth are the ones who are responsible though it may happen even the father may go with them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long do they stay there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends they can stay for even 3 months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does it affect the society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0687869, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children, elders, mothers and sometimes head of the house, because the youth are the ones who are responsible though it may happen even the father may go with them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long do they stay there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends they can stay for even 3 months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does it affect the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no any effect"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talking about responsibility; Are there any changes when they shift to take animals far away to graze?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1875410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends they can stay for even 3 months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does it affect the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no any effect"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talking about responsibility; Are there any changes when they shift to take animals far away to graze?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The ones who remain behind take the risk to perform every task in order to cover up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For those who go to school, when they are back are there any changes that you observe for them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.31949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is no any effect"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talking about responsibility; Are there any changes when they shift to take animals far away to graze?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The ones who remain behind take the risk to perform every task in order to cover up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For those who go to school, when they are back are there any changes that you observe for them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The changes are positive, they are educated enough even they teach us other new things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is life when people shift?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4661, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The ones who remain behind take the risk to perform every task in order to cover up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For those who go to school, when they are back are there any changes that you observe for them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The changes are positive, they are educated enough even they teach us other new things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is life when people shift?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Life becomes hard because there is no enough milk due to too much drought that the cattle don’t get enough pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do people usually get balanced diet when other people are away?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.629, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The changes are positive, they are educated enough even they teach us other new things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is life when people shift?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Life becomes hard because there is no enough milk due to too much drought that the cattle don’t get enough pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do people usually get balanced diet when other people are away?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is usually no food because of too much drought. And women, children and elders suffer a lot, so they eat other foods like vegetables, cassava, potato, which in our society these are not the normal things/foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "which is the common conflict in the community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Life becomes hard because there is no enough milk due to too much drought that the cattle don’t get enough pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do people usually get balanced diet when other people are away?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is usually no food because of too much drought. And women, children and elders suffer a lot, so they eat other foods like vegetables, cassava, potato, which in our society these are not the normal things/foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "which is the common conflict in the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Common one is that of pastoralist and farmers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when did this conflict start? What is the cause of this conflict? When does it take place?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there is usually no food because of too much drought. And women, children and elders suffer a lot, so they eat other foods like vegetables, cassava, potato, which in our society these are not the normal things/foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "which is the common conflict in the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Common one is that of pastoralist and farmers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when did this conflict start? What is the cause of this conflict? When does it take place?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For about 3 years now, the cause of this conflict is land because there is no enough land for the pastoralist to graze or enough feed for cattle so they tend to move from one place to another in order to get pasture for the cattle, and it mostly happen during the dry season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does it affect the pastoralist?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Common one is that of pastoralist and farmers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when did this conflict start? What is the cause of this conflict? When does it take place?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For about 3 years now, the cause of this conflict is land because there is no enough land for the pastoralist to graze or enough feed for cattle so they tend to move from one place to another in order to get pasture for the cattle, and it mostly happen during the dry season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does it affect the pastoralist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Reduction on the number of cattle, due to lack of pasture and water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do they overcome the conflict?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For about 3 years now, the cause of this conflict is land because there is no enough land for the pastoralist to graze or enough feed for cattle so they tend to move from one place to another in order to get pasture for the cattle, and it mostly happen during the dry season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does it affect the pastoralist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Reduction on the number of cattle, due to lack of pasture and water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do they overcome the conflict?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for quiet sometime now conflicts in households have declined compared to previous years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When conflict occurs in the family, how do you solve them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Reduction on the number of cattle, due to lack of pasture and water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do they overcome the conflict?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for quiet sometime now conflicts in households have declined compared to previous years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When conflict occurs in the family, how do you solve them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "By going to the chairperson who help the two to resolve their issues before going back home. As we are coming to an end of our interview would like to ask more questions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where exactly do people learn about balanced diet in this community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "for quiet sometime now conflicts in households have declined compared to previous years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When conflict occurs in the family, how do you solve them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "By going to the chairperson who help the two to resolve their issues before going back home. As we are coming to an end of our interview would like to ask more questions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where exactly do people learn about balanced diet in this community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At home, as mother and father teach us how to prepare food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any importance of diet or healthy knowledge to your community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00043:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "By going to the chairperson who help the two to resolve their issues before going back home. As we are coming to an end of our interview would like to ask more questions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where exactly do people learn about balanced diet in this community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At home, as mother and father teach us how to prepare food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any importance of diet or healthy knowledge to your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "where do you want to get this knowledge?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.17790747424136857, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "More used to the- like after using one year, more used to the things inside.\n\nLike the system, more used to it. Then know where everything is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay. So which do you use more often now that you’re more used to this system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The report and the grammar and vocab check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The report, so report is not just the score right? It’s everything. Okay which one do you find most helpful, now that you’re used to it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The report and the grammar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so why is it helpful? Why is this report and grammar helpful?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1976749713792984, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The report and the grammar and vocab check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The report, so report is not just the score right? It’s everything. Okay which one do you find most helpful, now that you’re used to it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The report and the grammar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so why is it helpful? Why is this report and grammar helpful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I’m not that good at grammar, the report shows more of the things that I’m not-I need to improve on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it highlights- so last year because you’re not so used to the system, you don’t understand the- okay great. Thank you. What about William? Comparing last year and this year, what was better this year, or not so good this year?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.21963885708810935, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The report and the grammar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so why is it helpful? Why is this report and grammar helpful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I’m not that good at grammar, the report shows more of the things that I’m not-I need to improve on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it highlights- so last year because you’re not so used to the system, you don’t understand the- okay great. Thank you. What about William? Comparing last year and this year, what was better this year, or not so good this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not sure, okay. Maybe William, out of all the lessons, which lesson did you like best, from this year’s Ms O’s class?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.24404317454234373, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I’m not that good at grammar, the report shows more of the things that I’m not-I need to improve on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it highlights- so last year because you’re not so used to the system, you don’t understand the- okay great. Thank you. What about William? Comparing last year and this year, what was better this year, or not so good this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not sure, okay. Maybe William, out of all the lessons, which lesson did you like best, from this year’s Ms O’s class?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Doing the essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, which essay was it that you liked?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.27115908282482637, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not sure, okay. Maybe William, out of all the lessons, which lesson did you like best, from this year’s Ms O’s class?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Doing the essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, which essay was it that you liked?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The expository essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay, what did you like about it?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3012878698053626, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Doing the essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, which essay was it that you liked?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The expository essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay, what did you like about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is...like you can think while you write? Something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Think- okay, maybe I’ll hear-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.33476429978373623, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The expository essay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay, what did you like about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is...like you can think while you write? Something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Think- okay, maybe I’ll hear-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Improve my compo skills."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh improve your compo skills. Okay in fact William did your teacher in school comment that your composition, your essay is better now?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3719603330930402, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is...like you can think while you write? Something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Think- okay, maybe I’ll hear-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Improve my compo skills."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh improve your compo skills. Okay in fact William did your teacher in school comment that your composition, your essay is better now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. It’s better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She said it? Did she write it in report, or did she write it in your-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.41328925899226693, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Improve my compo skills."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh improve your compo skills. Okay in fact William did your teacher in school comment that your composition, your essay is better now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. It’s better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She said it? Did she write it in report, or did she write it in your-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh like the practice I did, the mark did increase"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh congratulations! Which one was this? Compo, compre, editing?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4592102877691855, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. It’s better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She said it? Did she write it in report, or did she write it in your-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh like the practice I did, the mark did increase"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh congratulations! Which one was this? Compo, compre, editing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Compo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s good! I’ll come back to you William, you keep thinking what is it comparing this year with last year. Walter, we’ll hear from you before we hear from Watson. Watson, we were just talking about comparing this year with last year because all of you have been on this Scribo for one whole year already.\n\nSo we want to know what was better this year, or what was better last year. Come let’s start with Walter then we’ll talk to Watson. Yes Walter? We’re holding our breath."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5102336530768727, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh like the practice I did, the mark did increase"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh congratulations! Which one was this? Compo, compre, editing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Compo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s good! I’ll come back to you William, you keep thinking what is it comparing this year with last year. Walter, we’ll hear from you before we hear from Watson. Watson, we were just talking about comparing this year with last year because all of you have been on this Scribo for one whole year already.\n\nSo we want to know what was better this year, or what was better last year. Come let’s start with Walter then we’ll talk to Watson. Yes Walter? We’re holding our breath."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My spelling got improve."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh your spelling got better."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5669262811965252, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Compo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s good! I’ll come back to you William, you keep thinking what is it comparing this year with last year. Walter, we’ll hear from you before we hear from Watson. Watson, we were just talking about comparing this year with last year because all of you have been on this Scribo for one whole year already.\n\nSo we want to know what was better this year, or what was better last year. Come let’s start with Walter then we’ll talk to Watson. Yes Walter? We’re holding our breath."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My spelling got improve."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh your spelling got better."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And grammar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh your spelling got better, your grammar- like William’s case did your teachers notice that it was better? Your teachers back in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6299180902183613, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My spelling got improve."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh your spelling got better."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And grammar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh your spelling got better, your grammar- like William’s case did your teachers notice that it was better? Your teachers back in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me- where did she write that, or did she tell you directly, or something?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6999089891315126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And grammar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh your spelling got better, your grammar- like William’s case did your teachers notice that it was better? Your teachers back in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me- where did she write that, or did she tell you directly, or something?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She tell me directly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She told you directly. Is she the same teacher from last year?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7776766545905694, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me- where did she write that, or did she tell you directly, or something?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She tell me directly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She told you directly. Is she the same teacher from last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can. Are you like-Wyatt, are you more used to the system now? The Scribo system now?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8640851717672994, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She tell me directly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She told you directly. Is she the same teacher from last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can. Are you like-Wyatt, are you more used to the system now? The Scribo system now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you Wyatt, thank you Walter as well. So let’s hear from Watson, comparing the two, last year and this year, how is your experience with Scribo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9600946352969992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can. Are you like-Wyatt, are you more used to the system now? The Scribo system now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you Wyatt, thank you Walter as well. So let’s hear from Watson, comparing the two, last year and this year, how is your experience with Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The experience was actually not the same. [inaudible] one of the lesson that helps me improve more on my sentence structure when doing compo and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I’ll ask you the same questions like the rest as well, did your teacher in school notice any changes and did she comment-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0667718169966658, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you Wyatt, thank you Walter as well. So let’s hear from Watson, comparing the two, last year and this year, how is your experience with Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The experience was actually not the same. [inaudible] one of the lesson that helps me improve more on my sentence structure when doing compo and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I’ll ask you the same questions like the rest as well, did your teacher in school notice any changes and did she comment-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My teacher did comment on some of my papers. Like he says that my sentence structure and how I phrase- example like I use connectors more often, or the way I phrase stuff is more accurate and the teacher understand better instead like last time where it’s less understandable and the teacher has to ask me on paper whether this is what I’m talking about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great, congratulations! That is for your compo, for editing or anything like that was there a difference?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.1853020188851842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The experience was actually not the same. [inaudible] one of the lesson that helps me improve more on my sentence structure when doing compo and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I’ll ask you the same questions like the rest as well, did your teacher in school notice any changes and did she comment-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My teacher did comment on some of my papers. Like he says that my sentence structure and how I phrase- example like I use connectors more often, or the way I phrase stuff is more accurate and the teacher understand better instead like last time where it’s less understandable and the teacher has to ask me on paper whether this is what I’m talking about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great, congratulations! That is for your compo, for editing or anything like that was there a difference?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess I could get more answers correct than last time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, what’s your score nowadays? Roughly? Compared to last-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2058911320946491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My teacher did comment on some of my papers. Like he says that my sentence structure and how I phrase- example like I use connectors more often, or the way I phrase stuff is more accurate and the teacher understand better instead like last time where it’s less understandable and the teacher has to ask me on paper whether this is what I’m talking about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great, congratulations! That is for your compo, for editing or anything like that was there a difference?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess I could get more answers correct than last time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, what’s your score nowadays? Roughly? Compared to last-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Out of like 10, it’s about 9 or 8."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh wow, that’s great. Previously in Sec 2?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22876792454961012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess I could get more answers correct than last time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, what’s your score nowadays? Roughly? Compared to last-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Out of like 10, it’s about 9 or 8."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh wow, that’s great. Previously in Sec 2?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s about 5 or 4."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay then that’s a lot of difference, congratulations on that! So that’s with your use of Scribo, comparing how y’all feel about yourself doing English and writing essays from last year to this year. Do y’all feel more confident, and if you feel more confident why you feel more confident?\n\nWhat was it that makes you feel more confident? So maybe we’ll start with Wyatt?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25418658283290013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Out of like 10, it’s about 9 or 8."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh wow, that’s great. Previously in Sec 2?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s about 5 or 4."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay then that’s a lot of difference, congratulations on that! So that’s with your use of Scribo, comparing how y’all feel about yourself doing English and writing essays from last year to this year. Do y’all feel more confident, and if you feel more confident why you feel more confident?\n\nWhat was it that makes you feel more confident? So maybe we’ll start with Wyatt?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe when writing my essay, I feel more confident for the sentence structure. Correcting of sticky sentence make me know how to change my sentence, maybe shorter or maybe easier to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay correcting sticky sentences so you feel more confident about that. Generally right now across the term, do you notice any changes in your marks or what the teachers write in feedback in your essay?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28242953648100017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s about 5 or 4."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay then that’s a lot of difference, congratulations on that! So that’s with your use of Scribo, comparing how y’all feel about yourself doing English and writing essays from last year to this year. Do y’all feel more confident, and if you feel more confident why you feel more confident?\n\nWhat was it that makes you feel more confident? So maybe we’ll start with Wyatt?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe when writing my essay, I feel more confident for the sentence structure. Correcting of sticky sentence make me know how to change my sentence, maybe shorter or maybe easier to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay correcting sticky sentences so you feel more confident about that. Generally right now across the term, do you notice any changes in your marks or what the teachers write in feedback in your essay?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can pass my essay writings now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you mean previously it was not so easy to pass?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.31381059609000017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe when writing my essay, I feel more confident for the sentence structure. Correcting of sticky sentence make me know how to change my sentence, maybe shorter or maybe easier to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay correcting sticky sentences so you feel more confident about that. Generally right now across the term, do you notice any changes in your marks or what the teachers write in feedback in your essay?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can pass my essay writings now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you mean previously it was not so easy to pass?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you know what, at Sec 3 that’s actually very good because do you find Sec 3 more difficult than Sec 2? Wyatt how is Sec 3 work to you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34867844010000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can pass my essay writings now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you mean previously it was not so easy to pass?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you know what, at Sec 3 that’s actually very good because do you find Sec 3 more difficult than Sec 2? Wyatt how is Sec 3 work to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A bit more complicated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that’s good, you know with more complicated and yet you can pass now. I will hear from the rest and I will come back to you again, so again William this year do you feel more confident, less confident, or the same?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38742048900000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you know what, at Sec 3 that’s actually very good because do you find Sec 3 more difficult than Sec 2? Wyatt how is Sec 3 work to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A bit more complicated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that’s good, you know with more complicated and yet you can pass now. I will hear from the rest and I will come back to you again, so again William this year do you feel more confident, less confident, or the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "More confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, why? What makes you more confident now?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A bit more complicated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that’s good, you know with more complicated and yet you can pass now. I will hear from the rest and I will come back to you again, so again William this year do you feel more confident, less confident, or the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "More confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, why? What makes you more confident now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because my marks improved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, your marks improved. If you have to tell me one reason why your marks improved, what do you think it is?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "More confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, why? What makes you more confident now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because my marks improved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, your marks improved. If you have to tell me one reason why your marks improved, what do you think it is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like editing. Last time I fail my editing, now I can pass."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay that’s good! Yeah editing is quite difficult at Sec 3 right? Thank you. Welcome Wesley, we are just comparing last year with this year, and then whether you feel more confident or not. So Wesley I’ll get to you soon. By the way y’all can always jump in or type into the chat box if you have something to say while waiting for your turn.\n\nSo Walter, more confident, less confident, the same?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because my marks improved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, your marks improved. If you have to tell me one reason why your marks improved, what do you think it is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like editing. Last time I fail my editing, now I can pass."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay that’s good! Yeah editing is quite difficult at Sec 3 right? Thank you. Welcome Wesley, we are just comparing last year with this year, and then whether you feel more confident or not. So Wesley I’ll get to you soon. By the way y’all can always jump in or type into the chat box if you have something to say while waiting for your turn.\n\nSo Walter, more confident, less confident, the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Same? Okay, how are your other subjects? How is generally Sec 3 work to you? More difficult, less difficult?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like editing. Last time I fail my editing, now I can pass."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay that’s good! Yeah editing is quite difficult at Sec 3 right? Thank you. Welcome Wesley, we are just comparing last year with this year, and then whether you feel more confident or not. So Wesley I’ll get to you soon. By the way y’all can always jump in or type into the chat box if you have something to say while waiting for your turn.\n\nSo Walter, more confident, less confident, the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Same? Okay, how are your other subjects? How is generally Sec 3 work to you? More difficult, less difficult?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Easier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh it’s easier? So it’s easier in Maths and Science as well? Is English easier?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Same? Okay, how are your other subjects? How is generally Sec 3 work to you? More difficult, less difficult?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Easier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh it’s easier? So it’s easier in Maths and Science as well? Is English easier?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Same, so English is the same for you. Your teacher changed from Sec 2 to Sec 3 right? How is this English teacher compared to lat year’s English teacher?\n\nIt’s okay if you don’t answer. The same with the rest of y’all, if you find that it’s something that’s uncomfortable, do not be forced. I’m here to try and find out about the system, not to judge you. So I need to dig a little bit more so that I can understand a little bit. So it’s okay Walter, when you’re comfortable telling me what it is that’s making studies easier or more difficult just let mw know. Thank you.\n\nSo Watson what about you? How has it been this year for you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Easier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh it’s easier? So it’s easier in Maths and Science as well? Is English easier?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Same, so English is the same for you. Your teacher changed from Sec 2 to Sec 3 right? How is this English teacher compared to lat year’s English teacher?\n\nIt’s okay if you don’t answer. The same with the rest of y’all, if you find that it’s something that’s uncomfortable, do not be forced. I’m here to try and find out about the system, not to judge you. So I need to dig a little bit more so that I can understand a little bit. So it’s okay Walter, when you’re comfortable telling me what it is that’s making studies easier or more difficult just let mw know. Thank you.\n\nSo Watson what about you? How has it been this year for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Quite decent. Just to look yourself back. (?)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, quite decent. If you compare what Ms O does in the Scribo program and your teacher in school, are they doing the same things or different things?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Same, so English is the same for you. Your teacher changed from Sec 2 to Sec 3 right? How is this English teacher compared to lat year’s English teacher?\n\nIt’s okay if you don’t answer. The same with the rest of y’all, if you find that it’s something that’s uncomfortable, do not be forced. I’m here to try and find out about the system, not to judge you. So I need to dig a little bit more so that I can understand a little bit. So it’s okay Walter, when you’re comfortable telling me what it is that’s making studies easier or more difficult just let mw know. Thank you.\n\nSo Watson what about you? How has it been this year for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Quite decent. Just to look yourself back. (?)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, quite decent. If you compare what Ms O does in the Scribo program and your teacher in school, are they doing the same things or different things?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About the same, okay. But what is one thing that maybe the Scribo program or the CDAC program helped even though it’s about the same? Anything that was more helpful to you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Quite decent. Just to look yourself back. (?)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, quite decent. If you compare what Ms O does in the Scribo program and your teacher in school, are they doing the same things or different things?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About the same, okay. But what is one thing that maybe the Scribo program or the CDAC program helped even though it’s about the same? Anything that was more helpful to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most helpful is- it helps focus more on writing skills because in school you’re learning more on your vocabs but they don’t teach you a lot on your writing skills. That’s why I find the Scribo is better in teaching you how to write better essays and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, is it the program that teaches you how to write better or Ms O, the videos she shows or the worksheets that she shows? What was it that helped?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "About the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About the same, okay. But what is one thing that maybe the Scribo program or the CDAC program helped even though it’s about the same? Anything that was more helpful to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most helpful is- it helps focus more on writing skills because in school you’re learning more on your vocabs but they don’t teach you a lot on your writing skills. That’s why I find the Scribo is better in teaching you how to write better essays and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, is it the program that teaches you how to write better or Ms O, the videos she shows or the worksheets that she shows? What was it that helped?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The worksheets are helpful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay it was the worksheets that helped y’all. Thank you so much. Wesley let’s hear from you. Wesley and Wiley I just want to understand how- because last year y’all were also on the program as well, so how is your experience of Scribo this year compared to last year?\n\nIs it better, same or worse? Maybe we start with Wesley?\n\nComparing this year and last year on the Scribo program, what are your feelings? Is it better?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most helpful is- it helps focus more on writing skills because in school you’re learning more on your vocabs but they don’t teach you a lot on your writing skills. That’s why I find the Scribo is better in teaching you how to write better essays and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, is it the program that teaches you how to write better or Ms O, the videos she shows or the worksheets that she shows? What was it that helped?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The worksheets are helpful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay it was the worksheets that helped y’all. Thank you so much. Wesley let’s hear from you. Wesley and Wiley I just want to understand how- because last year y’all were also on the program as well, so how is your experience of Scribo this year compared to last year?\n\nIs it better, same or worse? Maybe we start with Wesley?\n\nComparing this year and last year on the Scribo program, what are your feelings? Is it better?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay lah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you feel that you are more confident in your writing of essay? It’s okay to tell me if you’re not, not forcing you to say yes."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The worksheets are helpful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay it was the worksheets that helped y’all. Thank you so much. Wesley let’s hear from you. Wesley and Wiley I just want to understand how- because last year y’all were also on the program as well, so how is your experience of Scribo this year compared to last year?\n\nIs it better, same or worse? Maybe we start with Wesley?\n\nComparing this year and last year on the Scribo program, what are your feelings? Is it better?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay lah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you feel that you are more confident in your writing of essay? It’s okay to tell me if you’re not, not forcing you to say yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you’re more confident, so what gives you the more confidence in writing?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay lah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you feel that you are more confident in your writing of essay? It’s okay to tell me if you’re not, not forcing you to say yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you’re more confident, so what gives you the more confidence in writing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Practicing more essays, writing essays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in fact I’m curious and this is a question for everyone, do y’all use Scribo outside of CDAC? In other words do you use Scribo for your schoolwork? For those of you that do, can you use the thumbs up there to let me know? Do y’all use Scribo outside of CDAC?\n\nIn other words you’re using it to practice on your own like Wesley was saying? Anyone? I’m curious why- because actually you can, I’m sure C will tell y’all you can. So then Wesley just to double check, when you say “practice more”, it is the practice that Ms O ask y’all to do? Is it Wesley?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you’re more confident, so what gives you the more confidence in writing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Practicing more essays, writing essays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in fact I’m curious and this is a question for everyone, do y’all use Scribo outside of CDAC? In other words do you use Scribo for your schoolwork? For those of you that do, can you use the thumbs up there to let me know? Do y’all use Scribo outside of CDAC?\n\nIn other words you’re using it to practice on your own like Wesley was saying? Anyone? I’m curious why- because actually you can, I’m sure C will tell y’all you can. So then Wesley just to double check, when you say “practice more”, it is the practice that Ms O ask y’all to do? Is it Wesley?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you. Wiley what about you? How do you feel comparing last year’s program and this year on Scribo? So maybe unmute yourself and let me hear?\n\nCan you compare last year the use of Scribo and this year? Do you feel this year was easier, or this year was harder?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Practicing more essays, writing essays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in fact I’m curious and this is a question for everyone, do y’all use Scribo outside of CDAC? In other words do you use Scribo for your schoolwork? For those of you that do, can you use the thumbs up there to let me know? Do y’all use Scribo outside of CDAC?\n\nIn other words you’re using it to practice on your own like Wesley was saying? Anyone? I’m curious why- because actually you can, I’m sure C will tell y’all you can. So then Wesley just to double check, when you say “practice more”, it is the practice that Ms O ask y’all to do? Is it Wesley?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you. Wiley what about you? How do you feel comparing last year’s program and this year on Scribo? So maybe unmute yourself and let me hear?\n\nCan you compare last year the use of Scribo and this year? Do you feel this year was easier, or this year was harder?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think this year is easier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, why? Help me understand."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you. Wiley what about you? How do you feel comparing last year’s program and this year on Scribo? So maybe unmute yourself and let me hear?\n\nCan you compare last year the use of Scribo and this year? Do you feel this year was easier, or this year was harder?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think this year is easier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, why? Help me understand."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean it’s really hard to compare because last year kind of already helped me with English a lot, so this year it’s almost the same exact class, but instead I have a slight boost in English you know. I’m slightly better at it, I find it easier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you say you’re slightly better, did your teachers in school notice the improvement?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think this year is easier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, why? Help me understand."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean it’s really hard to compare because last year kind of already helped me with English a lot, so this year it’s almost the same exact class, but instead I have a slight boost in English you know. I’m slightly better at it, I find it easier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you say you’re slightly better, did your teachers in school notice the improvement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, quite a lot actually. My English teacher found it out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh so she wrote it in your compo or something or she told you directly? How do you know that- did she tell you that you improved a lot, or did she write it down?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean it’s really hard to compare because last year kind of already helped me with English a lot, so this year it’s almost the same exact class, but instead I have a slight boost in English you know. I’m slightly better at it, I find it easier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you say you’re slightly better, did your teachers in school notice the improvement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, quite a lot actually. My English teacher found it out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh so she wrote it in your compo or something or she told you directly? How do you know that- did she tell you that you improved a lot, or did she write it down?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She told to me directly. During recess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, congratulations on it. Right now what I want to understand is what happens when you’re using Scribo? So I’m going to look at that a little more specifically. When Ms O gives y’all a piece of work, can you describe to me what happens when she gives you a task?\n\nSo she probably gave you all a lot of help, helping words and all that, structure. Then tell me what y’all do after that. So maybe we start with Wyatt, ladies first? So when Ms O gives y’all a piece of work to do, how do you make use of Scribo in doing that piece of work?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, quite a lot actually. My English teacher found it out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh so she wrote it in your compo or something or she told you directly? How do you know that- did she tell you that you improved a lot, or did she write it down?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She told to me directly. During recess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, congratulations on it. Right now what I want to understand is what happens when you’re using Scribo? So I’m going to look at that a little more specifically. When Ms O gives y’all a piece of work, can you describe to me what happens when she gives you a task?\n\nSo she probably gave you all a lot of help, helping words and all that, structure. Then tell me what y’all do after that. So maybe we start with Wyatt, ladies first? So when Ms O gives y’all a piece of work to do, how do you make use of Scribo in doing that piece of work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Using Scribo check more often."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh so you use it more often, when do you use it during your Scribo check? After you finish, or during the work itself, or after?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She told to me directly. During recess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, congratulations on it. Right now what I want to understand is what happens when you’re using Scribo? So I’m going to look at that a little more specifically. When Ms O gives y’all a piece of work, can you describe to me what happens when she gives you a task?\n\nSo she probably gave you all a lot of help, helping words and all that, structure. Then tell me what y’all do after that. So maybe we start with Wyatt, ladies first? So when Ms O gives y’all a piece of work to do, how do you make use of Scribo in doing that piece of work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Using Scribo check more often."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh so you use it more often, when do you use it during your Scribo check? After you finish, or during the work itself, or after?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe when I finish one paragraph."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so you check paragraph by paragraph. Okay good, in school do you do that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Using Scribo check more often."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh so you use it more often, when do you use it during your Scribo check? After you finish, or during the work itself, or after?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe when I finish one paragraph."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so you check paragraph by paragraph. Okay good, in school do you do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, there’s no Scribo check on paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you all can right? Oh but in school all your compositions are on paper?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe when I finish one paragraph."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so you check paragraph by paragraph. Okay good, in school do you do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, there’s no Scribo check on paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you all can right? Oh but in school all your compositions are on paper?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you use Scribo check. I’ll ask you one more question and then I’ll hear from them. After it check and then you submit and then Ms O gives you feedback, then what happens after that? Do you all have to do corrections?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, there’s no Scribo check on paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you all can right? Oh but in school all your compositions are on paper?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you use Scribo check. I’ll ask you one more question and then I’ll hear from them. After it check and then you submit and then Ms O gives you feedback, then what happens after that? Do you all have to do corrections?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we do- if I remember correctly, we do peer review."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, yeah peer review is something I want to talk about a little bit later, but let’s not keep the gentlemen from waiting. I wanna hear from the rest as well. So as usual we hear from William first, or anybody can jump in. William how do you make use of Scribo when Ms O gives you a piece of work?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you use Scribo check. I’ll ask you one more question and then I’ll hear from them. After it check and then you submit and then Ms O gives you feedback, then what happens after that? Do you all have to do corrections?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we do- if I remember correctly, we do peer review."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, yeah peer review is something I want to talk about a little bit later, but let’s not keep the gentlemen from waiting. I wanna hear from the rest as well. So as usual we hear from William first, or anybody can jump in. William how do you make use of Scribo when Ms O gives you a piece of work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same, just use the Scribo checks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, when do you use the Scribo checks?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we do- if I remember correctly, we do peer review."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, yeah peer review is something I want to talk about a little bit later, but let’s not keep the gentlemen from waiting. I wanna hear from the rest as well. So as usual we hear from William first, or anybody can jump in. William how do you make use of Scribo when Ms O gives you a piece of work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same, just use the Scribo checks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, when do you use the Scribo checks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "After I finish everything.\n\nFinish then like one shot check everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, then you check everything, then you change everything and all. Do you look at the score and try to you know-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same, just use the Scribo checks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, when do you use the Scribo checks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "After I finish everything.\n\nFinish then like one shot check everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, then you check everything, then you change everything and all. Do you look at the score and try to you know-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I did I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you use the score as a gauge of whether you have improved or not?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "After I finish everything.\n\nFinish then like one shot check everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, then you check everything, then you change everything and all. Do you look at the score and try to you know-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I did I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you use the score as a gauge of whether you have improved or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Can I hear from the rest, did anybody do it differently? So we hear from Wyatt and William, after Ms O gives you all a piece of work, you type it in, then you do the checks. Did anybody do anything that is slightly different?\n\nNo? Did anybody make use of Scribo for schoolwork? No? Is it because schoolwork is a lot of paper and pen? Maybe let’s talk about our WA then, so maybe let’s hear from Walter. Walter what was the recent WA that you had for school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I did I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you use the score as a gauge of whether you have improved or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Can I hear from the rest, did anybody do it differently? So we hear from Wyatt and William, after Ms O gives you all a piece of work, you type it in, then you do the checks. Did anybody do anything that is slightly different?\n\nNo? Did anybody make use of Scribo for schoolwork? No? Is it because schoolwork is a lot of paper and pen? Maybe let’s talk about our WA then, so maybe let’s hear from Walter. Walter what was the recent WA that you had for school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Comprehension, so did you make use of what you learnt in Ms O’s class for the comprehension? Oh you did, good! Can you tell me what was it that you used? That you applied from-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Can I hear from the rest, did anybody do it differently? So we hear from Wyatt and William, after Ms O gives you all a piece of work, you type it in, then you do the checks. Did anybody do anything that is slightly different?\n\nNo? Did anybody make use of Scribo for schoolwork? No? Is it because schoolwork is a lot of paper and pen? Maybe let’s talk about our WA then, so maybe let’s hear from Walter. Walter what was the recent WA that you had for school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Comprehension, so did you make use of what you learnt in Ms O’s class for the comprehension? Oh you did, good! Can you tell me what was it that you used? That you applied from-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Irony."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh irony! Eh that’s very interesting because the other class also said that they remember this thing about irony. Beucase irony is actually quite a difficult thing to understand, so what was it that Ms O did that helped you understand irony?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Comprehension, so did you make use of what you learnt in Ms O’s class for the comprehension? Oh you did, good! Can you tell me what was it that you used? That you applied from-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Irony."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh irony! Eh that’s very interesting because the other class also said that they remember this thing about irony. Beucase irony is actually quite a difficult thing to understand, so what was it that Ms O did that helped you understand irony?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Make it easier to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so how did she make it easier to understand?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Irony."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh irony! Eh that’s very interesting because the other class also said that they remember this thing about irony. Beucase irony is actually quite a difficult thing to understand, so what was it that Ms O did that helped you understand irony?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Make it easier to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so how did she make it easier to understand?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Explaining."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Explaining it? Okay thank you Walter, congratulations for your WA. Can I understand from the other gentlemen as well? Wesley and Wiley and Watson, maybe we start with Watson, what did you have for your WA this time round?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Make it easier to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so how did she make it easier to understand?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Explaining."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Explaining it? Okay thank you Walter, congratulations for your WA. Can I understand from the other gentlemen as well? Wesley and Wiley and Watson, maybe we start with Watson, what did you have for your WA this time round?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you also had comprehension, how was it?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Explaining."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Explaining it? Okay thank you Walter, congratulations for your WA. Can I understand from the other gentlemen as well? Wesley and Wiley and Watson, maybe we start with Watson, what did you have for your WA this time round?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you also had comprehension, how was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not that bad, y’all all very modest, not that bad means can lah, is it? Did you manage to apply something that you learnt from Ms O’s class?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you also had comprehension, how was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not that bad, y’all all very modest, not that bad means can lah, is it? Did you manage to apply something that you learnt from Ms O’s class?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you help me by being- tell me specifically what it is that you’ve applied?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not that bad, y’all all very modest, not that bad means can lah, is it? Did you manage to apply something that you learnt from Ms O’s class?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you help me by being- tell me specifically what it is that you’ve applied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The method of understanding the text."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so can you tell me the method? Can you tell me the secret, how to understand the text? Something that Ms O taught you all?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you help me by being- tell me specifically what it is that you’ve applied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The method of understanding the text."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so can you tell me the method? Can you tell me the secret, how to understand the text? Something that Ms O taught you all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[inaudible] like underline the main key point of the question."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay. Yeah yeah that’s important, underlining, annotating. Okay thank you. Okay so Wiley and Wesley, what was your WA? Maybe we start with Wiley. Can you unmute yourself? What did you have for your WA in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The method of understanding the text."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so can you tell me the method? Can you tell me the secret, how to understand the text? Something that Ms O taught you all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[inaudible] like underline the main key point of the question."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay. Yeah yeah that’s important, underlining, annotating. Okay thank you. Okay so Wiley and Wesley, what was your WA? Maybe we start with Wiley. Can you unmute yourself? What did you have for your WA in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got a B."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s great. Was it compre, compo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[inaudible] like underline the main key point of the question."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay. Yeah yeah that’s important, underlining, annotating. Okay thank you. Okay so Wiley and Wesley, what was your WA? Maybe we start with Wiley. Can you unmute yourself? What did you have for your WA in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got a B."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s great. Was it compre, compo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Compre."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh that seems to be the same, everybody else had comprehension. Did you apply something from Ms O’s class in the comprehension test?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got a B."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s great. Was it compre, compo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Compre."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh that seems to be the same, everybody else had comprehension. Did you apply something from Ms O’s class in the comprehension test?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s fair. I’ll hear from...I think the only person I haven’t heard from is Wesley is it? Wesley what was your WA?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Compre."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh that seems to be the same, everybody else had comprehension. Did you apply something from Ms O’s class in the comprehension test?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s fair. I’ll hear from...I think the only person I haven’t heard from is Wesley is it? Wesley what was your WA?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Comprehension. Come tell me what’s the hardest thing to you for comprehension?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s fair. I’ll hear from...I think the only person I haven’t heard from is Wesley is it? Wesley what was your WA?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Comprehension. Come tell me what’s the hardest thing to you for comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just...finding the answers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what were you taught about finding answers in Ms O’s class? What were the tips for finding answers?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Comprehension. Come tell me what’s the hardest thing to you for comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just...finding the answers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what were you taught about finding answers in Ms O’s class? What were the tips for finding answers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just write the important points."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, the important points. I want to go back to this thing about peer feedback that Wyatt talked about, and how you feel about peer feedback, especially using Scribo as a system to give peer feedback. So maybe let’s start with Wyatt, Wyatt do y’all use peer feedback or peer comments in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just...finding the answers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what were you taught about finding answers in Ms O’s class? What were the tips for finding answers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just write the important points."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, the important points. I want to go back to this thing about peer feedback that Wyatt talked about, and how you feel about peer feedback, especially using Scribo as a system to give peer feedback. So maybe let’s start with Wyatt, Wyatt do y’all use peer feedback or peer comments in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh not at all, okay. So in Ms O’s class and y’all using peer feedback, what did you like about it?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just write the important points."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, the important points. I want to go back to this thing about peer feedback that Wyatt talked about, and how you feel about peer feedback, especially using Scribo as a system to give peer feedback. 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So in Ms O’s class and y’all using peer feedback, what did you like about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another point of view other than the teacher’s view, because the age difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay, that’s a good point, another point of view. Does using Scribo make it more difficult to give peer feedback? I mean I imagine 2 pieces of paper easier, but doing it online, is it more troublesome?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes my network will lag and then...yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oky, so having a piece of paper might be easier. Is there anything that is an advantage of using online?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another point of view other than the teacher’s view, because the age difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay, that’s a good point, another point of view. Does using Scribo make it more difficult to give peer feedback? I mean I imagine 2 pieces of paper easier, but doing it online, is it more troublesome?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes my network will lag and then...yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oky, so having a piece of paper might be easier. Is there anything that is an advantage of using online?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I write faster. I type faster than I write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah you type faster than you write, okay thank you. I think sometimes also because when you write you have to think carefully then you put on paper, if not you have to use correction tape right. Typing you can kind of like delete and cut and paste, am I describing it correctly?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes my network will lag and then...yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oky, so having a piece of paper might be easier. Is there anything that is an advantage of using online?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I write faster. I type faster than I write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah you type faster than you write, okay thank you. I think sometimes also because when you write you have to think carefully then you put on paper, if not you have to use correction tape right. Typing you can kind of like delete and cut and paste, am I describing it correctly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much for that. So can I understand from all the gentlemen here how do y’all feel about giving each other peer comments? ... I’ll go by the order I see on my screen here, so I’ll start with William, then Wesley, then Wiley, Walter and then Watson. William how do you feel about peer feedback?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I write faster. I type faster than I write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah you type faster than you write, okay thank you. I think sometimes also because when you write you have to think carefully then you put on paper, if not you have to use correction tape right. Typing you can kind of like delete and cut and paste, am I describing it correctly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much for that. So can I understand from all the gentlemen here how do y’all feel about giving each other peer comments? ... I’ll go by the order I see on my screen here, so I’ll start with William, then Wesley, then Wiley, Walter and then Watson. William how do you feel about peer feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It also can help us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in what way? Can I understand?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you so much for that. So can I understand from all the gentlemen here how do y’all feel about giving each other peer comments? ... I’ll go by the order I see on my screen here, so I’ll start with William, then Wesley, then Wiley, Walter and then Watson. William how do you feel about peer feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It also can help us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in what way? Can I understand?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like help us correct our errors. Grammar errors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so friend can help correct. But Scribo can do that already, why do you need your friend to correct some more?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It also can help us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in what way? Can I understand?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like help us correct our errors. Grammar errors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so friend can help correct. But Scribo can do that already, why do you need your friend to correct some more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes Scribo also give weird answer. Yeah, AI."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so the AI also sometimes-can you give me an example, was there a time when the AI gave you a really strange feedback?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like help us correct our errors. Grammar errors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so friend can help correct. But Scribo can do that already, why do you need your friend to correct some more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes Scribo also give weird answer. Yeah, AI."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so the AI also sometimes-can you give me an example, was there a time when the AI gave you a really strange feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not a lot of feedback like the change the grammar errors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So there was a time when the AI gave you strange changes-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes Scribo also give weird answer. Yeah, AI."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so the AI also sometimes-can you give me an example, was there a time when the AI gave you a really strange feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not a lot of feedback like the change the grammar errors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So there was a time when the AI gave you strange changes-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Answer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can you remember which one? Can you give me the example?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not a lot of feedback like the change the grammar errors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So there was a time when the AI gave you strange changes-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Answer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can you remember which one? Can you give me the example?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think I can remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No worries. Okay thank you so much William. Wesley how do you feel about peer feedback?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Answer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can you remember which one? Can you give me the example?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think I can remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No worries. Okay thank you so much William. Wesley how do you feel about peer feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Really effective. And that’s where [inaudible] I know where are their mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, does your teacher in school use peer feedback? Do you have peer assessment in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think I can remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No worries. Okay thank you so much William. Wesley how do you feel about peer feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Really effective. And that’s where [inaudible] I know where are their mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, does your teacher in school use peer feedback? Do you have peer assessment in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay alright thank you. Wiley what about you? Can you hear us? Okay Wiley we were talking about peer feedback, do you think it has helped you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Really effective. And that’s where [inaudible] I know where are their mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, does your teacher in school use peer feedback? Do you have peer assessment in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay alright thank you. Wiley what about you? Can you hear us? Okay Wiley we were talking about peer feedback, do you think it has helped you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The problem is like I didn’t really participate in the peer feedback thing so I don’t really have a understanding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, because on that day you weren’t there? You weren’t there on the day they had peer feedback?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay alright thank you. Wiley what about you? Can you hear us? Okay Wiley we were talking about peer feedback, do you think it has helped you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The problem is like I didn’t really participate in the peer feedback thing so I don’t really have a understanding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, because on that day you weren’t there? You weren’t there on the day they had peer feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I wasn’t paying much attention to class so yeah. It’s my fault."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s very gracious of you to admit that. But in school does your teacher use peer assessment in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The problem is like I didn’t really participate in the peer feedback thing so I don’t really have a understanding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, because on that day you weren’t there? You weren’t there on the day they had peer feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I wasn’t paying much attention to class so yeah. It’s my fault."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s very gracious of you to admit that. But in school does your teacher use peer assessment in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My new teacher does not anymore, but my old teacher does though."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so would you prefer to use Scribo to give feedback, or you prefer face-to-face feedback?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I wasn’t paying much attention to class so yeah. It’s my fault."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s very gracious of you to admit that. But in school does your teacher use peer assessment in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My new teacher does not anymore, but my old teacher does though."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so would you prefer to use Scribo to give feedback, or you prefer face-to-face feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think face-to-face feedback in way better because it’s not like a typing down words- like you’re actually face-to-face confronting someone about your work and stuff and like-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, well some people who are shy, that might be better because at least they can type. So thank you very much for that. Walter what about you, do you prefer- how do you feel about peer feedback?\n\nSo giving peers feedback do you like doing that? Okay, why? Can you help me understand why?\n\nOkay alright thank you. How about Watson? What has your experience been giving peer feedback, or getting peer feedback?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My new teacher does not anymore, but my old teacher does though."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay, so would you prefer to use Scribo to give feedback, or you prefer face-to-face feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think face-to-face feedback in way better because it’s not like a typing down words- like you’re actually face-to-face confronting someone about your work and stuff and like-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, well some people who are shy, that might be better because at least they can type. So thank you very much for that. Walter what about you, do you prefer- how do you feel about peer feedback?\n\nSo giving peers feedback do you like doing that? Okay, why? Can you help me understand why?\n\nOkay alright thank you. How about Watson? What has your experience been giving peer feedback, or getting peer feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps a lot. Like you are able to give people feedback on what they’re weak on, and you also get to receive feedback on what you are weak on. Basically you are able to improve on what you’re lacking and you’re able to also find out what you’re lacking, because we can’t really judge on our own."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay just out of curiosity does your teacher in school use peer assessment?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think face-to-face feedback in way better because it’s not like a typing down words- like you’re actually face-to-face confronting someone about your work and stuff and like-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, well some people who are shy, that might be better because at least they can type. So thank you very much for that. Walter what about you, do you prefer- how do you feel about peer feedback?\n\nSo giving peers feedback do you like doing that? Okay, why? Can you help me understand why?\n\nOkay alright thank you. How about Watson? What has your experience been giving peer feedback, or getting peer feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps a lot. Like you are able to give people feedback on what they’re weak on, and you also get to receive feedback on what you are weak on. Basically you are able to improve on what you’re lacking and you’re able to also find out what you’re lacking, because we can’t really judge on our own."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay just out of curiosity does your teacher in school use peer assessment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not all the time, but we do sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if you were to compare, like Wiley prefers face-to-face, but for you do you prefer peer feedback that is face-to-face or using the platform like Scribo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps a lot. Like you are able to give people feedback on what they’re weak on, and you also get to receive feedback on what you are weak on. Basically you are able to improve on what you’re lacking and you’re able to also find out what you’re lacking, because we can’t really judge on our own."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay just out of curiosity does your teacher in school use peer assessment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not all the time, but we do sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if you were to compare, like Wiley prefers face-to-face, but for you do you prefer peer feedback that is face-to-face or using the platform like Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would prefer face-to-face considering that the person can directly tell you what you’re weak on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, if you were to give advice to either your teacher or Ms O to use peer feedback more next term, because y’all obviously find it helpful, what would be one thing she can do to make peer assessment like this better for you? A better experience for you?\n\nI’m asking Watson. So what can Ms O do next term to make peer assessment more effective, more enjoyable for you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not all the time, but we do sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if you were to compare, like Wiley prefers face-to-face, but for you do you prefer peer feedback that is face-to-face or using the platform like Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would prefer face-to-face considering that the person can directly tell you what you’re weak on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, if you were to give advice to either your teacher or Ms O to use peer feedback more next term, because y’all obviously find it helpful, what would be one thing she can do to make peer assessment like this better for you? A better experience for you?\n\nI’m asking Watson. So what can Ms O do next term to make peer assessment more effective, more enjoyable for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s a very hard question."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So sorry to ask such a difficult question. Is there anything that she should do more of or less of?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would prefer face-to-face considering that the person can directly tell you what you’re weak on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, if you were to give advice to either your teacher or Ms O to use peer feedback more next term, because y’all obviously find it helpful, what would be one thing she can do to make peer assessment like this better for you? A better experience for you?\n\nI’m asking Watson. So what can Ms O do next term to make peer assessment more effective, more enjoyable for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s a very hard question."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So sorry to ask such a difficult question. Is there anything that she should do more of or less of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually nothing I can think of right now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay fair enough, that’s very fair thank you very much for being frank about this. ...so I’m gonna try and end soon. I just need one sentence from each of you, everybody must say something, or at least type something.\n\nSo this is the one thing I want you all to tell me, has the way you learn English or study English changed in these 11 months? It’s okay to say nothing has changed, if something has changed tell me what has changed. ...has the way you study or learn English changed since you started on CDAC tuition with Scribo? ...\n\nSo who wants to go first? And once you’ve told me you can leave the room, but go back to the main room where Ms O is waiting for you patiently. Anybody wants to start first?\n\nOkay...[reading chatbox] don’t just tell me what has improved, tell me your own way of learning. Because I hear from all of you your spelling has improved, your grammar has improved, which is a good thing. But how do you go about improving yourself in English? Has it changed?\n\nMaybe think of habits, do you have a habit of checking your essay more? Or do you have a- now your habit of looking over the words that Ms O gives you? Think about all these possibilities.\n\nMaybe hearing somebody helps. So Wyatt any changes in the way you go about studying or learning English?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s a very hard question."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So sorry to ask such a difficult question. Is there anything that she should do more of or less of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually nothing I can think of right now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay fair enough, that’s very fair thank you very much for being frank about this. ...so I’m gonna try and end soon. I just need one sentence from each of you, everybody must say something, or at least type something.\n\nSo this is the one thing I want you all to tell me, has the way you learn English or study English changed in these 11 months? It’s okay to say nothing has changed, if something has changed tell me what has changed. ...has the way you study or learn English changed since you started on CDAC tuition with Scribo? ...\n\nSo who wants to go first? And once you’ve told me you can leave the room, but go back to the main room where Ms O is waiting for you patiently. Anybody wants to start first?\n\nOkay...[reading chatbox] don’t just tell me what has improved, tell me your own way of learning. Because I hear from all of you your spelling has improved, your grammar has improved, which is a good thing. But how do you go about improving yourself in English? Has it changed?\n\nMaybe think of habits, do you have a habit of checking your essay more? Or do you have a- now your habit of looking over the words that Ms O gives you? Think about all these possibilities.\n\nMaybe hearing somebody helps. So Wyatt any changes in the way you go about studying or learning English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Be more mindful of my grammar mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so when you’re writing you’re more mindful, thank you. ...anybody else?\n\nMaybe I speak to Wiley first just in case he can’t hear me. Wiley you can see what I have typed in right? So has the way you studied or learn English changed in any way since you started tuition with Scribo? It’s okay to say no, y’all don’t have to force yourselves to say something that’s not true."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually nothing I can think of right now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay fair enough, that’s very fair thank you very much for being frank about this. ...so I’m gonna try and end soon. I just need one sentence from each of you, everybody must say something, or at least type something.\n\nSo this is the one thing I want you all to tell me, has the way you learn English or study English changed in these 11 months? It’s okay to say nothing has changed, if something has changed tell me what has changed. ...has the way you study or learn English changed since you started on CDAC tuition with Scribo? ...\n\nSo who wants to go first? And once you’ve told me you can leave the room, but go back to the main room where Ms O is waiting for you patiently. Anybody wants to start first?\n\nOkay...[reading chatbox] don’t just tell me what has improved, tell me your own way of learning. Because I hear from all of you your spelling has improved, your grammar has improved, which is a good thing. But how do you go about improving yourself in English? Has it changed?\n\nMaybe think of habits, do you have a habit of checking your essay more? Or do you have a- now your habit of looking over the words that Ms O gives you? Think about all these possibilities.\n\nMaybe hearing somebody helps. So Wyatt any changes in the way you go about studying or learning English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Be more mindful of my grammar mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so when you’re writing you’re more mindful, thank you. ...anybody else?\n\nMaybe I speak to Wiley first just in case he can’t hear me. Wiley you can see what I have typed in right? So has the way you studied or learn English changed in any way since you started tuition with Scribo? It’s okay to say no, y’all don’t have to force yourselves to say something that’s not true."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess it slightly improved me in studying and stuff. Not too drastically or not too-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, so what’s that little bit that has changed? What was the one thing that has changed?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Be more mindful of my grammar mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so when you’re writing you’re more mindful, thank you. ...anybody else?\n\nMaybe I speak to Wiley first just in case he can’t hear me. Wiley you can see what I have typed in right? So has the way you studied or learn English changed in any way since you started tuition with Scribo? It’s okay to say no, y’all don’t have to force yourselves to say something that’s not true."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess it slightly improved me in studying and stuff. Not too drastically or not too-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, so what’s that little bit that has changed? What was the one thing that has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know how you have to prepare your own story when you write your compo right, I can feel a slight improvement in that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you’re more, as Wyatt says, you’re more mindful, not so much of the grammar but how to prepare."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess it slightly improved me in studying and stuff. Not too drastically or not too-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, so what’s that little bit that has changed? What was the one thing that has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know how you have to prepare your own story when you write your compo right, I can feel a slight improvement in that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you’re more, as Wyatt says, you’re more mindful, not so much of the grammar but how to prepare."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright thank you Wiley...any of the rest of the 4 gentlemen want to tell me and then you can go back to the room? ...Watson what about you, anything?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know how you have to prepare your own story when you write your compo right, I can feel a slight improvement in that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you’re more, as Wyatt says, you’re more mindful, not so much of the grammar but how to prepare."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright thank you Wiley...any of the rest of the 4 gentlemen want to tell me and then you can go back to the room? ...Watson what about you, anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So nothing has changed for you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright thank you Wiley...any of the rest of the 4 gentlemen want to tell me and then you can go back to the room? ...Watson what about you, anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So nothing has changed for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean my [inaudible], my comprehension was much better than before, my sentence structure is better. And my editing was also a lot better. I was able to-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me what was it that you did for your own that helped your editing become better."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So nothing has changed for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean my [inaudible], my comprehension was much better than before, my sentence structure is better. And my editing was also a lot better. I was able to-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me what was it that you did for your own that helped your editing become better."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Try to remember the past tense and present tense and all that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you remembered your tenses. Thank you. Wesley has typed something for me, so Watson and Wesley you can go back to the main room, thank you so much. Walter and William you can type something for me, or you can tell me directly. Again I repeat the question, have things changed for you, the way you study English or do your English homework?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00006:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean my [inaudible], my comprehension was much better than before, my sentence structure is better. And my editing was also a lot better. I was able to-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me what was it that you did for your own that helped your editing become better."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Try to remember the past tense and present tense and all that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you remembered your tenses. Thank you. Wesley has typed something for me, so Watson and Wesley you can go back to the main room, thank you so much. Walter and William you can type something for me, or you can tell me directly. Again I repeat the question, have things changed for you, the way you study English or do your English homework?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like editing watch for grammar errors, like adverb, nouns and tenses all these. Can improve my editing, like what is it previously."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so for editing you are more careful-"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.08818423742347, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Our discussion will be divided into different sections and we are going to have almost 5 section and those sections are; On the first section we are going to discuss about different reasons for the food change intake in our community, Second section we are going to discuss issues concern milk, On the third section we are going to discuss on the issue concern the drinking /eating of animal blood, Forth section will be about selection of food, Last section is going to be on how education/school has influence youth involvement in controversial issues in the community and last we a going to discuss about training, education and information concerning nutrition and health and what types of food can be used for the good health.\n\nlet’s start with our first section; we know that in our society (maasai) different changes have been occurring ,at the moment those food that we used to eat before now you’re not consuming them as much, because there are a lot of different food that we are eating and also the way those foods were prepared it is far way different from how they are being prepared now, so can you tell me in your society what kind of food that are available and used now that before you were not eating them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, it’s true that there is a very big change on the kind of food that we used to eat before and now, example before we Maasai we were eating meat and milk only but now we are eating all kind of food that other tribes are eating"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what are those new foods that you’re eating now besides meat and milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now we are eating banana, rice, cassava, potato, fish and so many foods like vegetables"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "comparing the past and now does the preparation of food the same e.g. How you used to cook meat is it the same as how you cook now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3202047082483, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, it’s true that there is a very big change on the kind of food that we used to eat before and now, example before we Maasai we were eating meat and milk only but now we are eating all kind of food that other tribes are eating"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what are those new foods that you’re eating now besides meat and milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now we are eating banana, rice, cassava, potato, fish and so many foods like vegetables"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "comparing the past and now does the preparation of food the same e.g. How you used to cook meat is it the same as how you cook now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, in the past we used to eat raw meat without cooking, but now we boil, we roast with tomato and carrots and onion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other ways of cooking meat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.578005231387, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now we are eating banana, rice, cassava, potato, fish and so many foods like vegetables"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "comparing the past and now does the preparation of food the same e.g. How you used to cook meat is it the same as how you cook now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, in the past we used to eat raw meat without cooking, but now we boil, we roast with tomato and carrots and onion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other ways of cooking meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now we sometimes grill the meat or we fry in the oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so now all kind of food that Swahili are eating you Maasai also eat like fish even though very few of you are eating fish but food like beans, cassava, rice, potato you also consumes them and even the way of preparing those food is different from the past now I see you boil, roast using onion, tomato, oil and so many other things."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8644502570966663, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, in the past we used to eat raw meat without cooking, but now we boil, we roast with tomato and carrots and onion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other ways of cooking meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now we sometimes grill the meat or we fry in the oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so now all kind of food that Swahili are eating you Maasai also eat like fish even though very few of you are eating fish but food like beans, cassava, rice, potato you also consumes them and even the way of preparing those food is different from the past now I see you boil, roast using onion, tomato, oil and so many other things."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what brings those changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1827225078851846, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now we sometimes grill the meat or we fry in the oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so now all kind of food that Swahili are eating you Maasai also eat like fish even though very few of you are eating fish but food like beans, cassava, rice, potato you also consumes them and even the way of preparing those food is different from the past now I see you boil, roast using onion, tomato, oil and so many other things."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what brings those changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why and how education can u explain more please?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.5363583420946494, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what brings those changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why and how education can u explain more please?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When kids/youth go to school they associate with different people from different other tribes and who have different ways of life (e.g. cooking) so the kids learn and adopt those ways and once they went back home they practice those new ways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what else bring those changes besides education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7856275828329001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When kids/youth go to school they associate with different people from different other tribes and who have different ways of life (e.g. cooking) so the kids learn and adopt those ways and once they went back home they practice those new ways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what else bring those changes besides education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mixed up with different people from different tribes contributes to those changes, in the past Maasai we were living in the forest all by ourselves without mixed up with other tribes but now we are living in town with different people, so this causes to adopt other people’s way of living including what they eat.\n\nAnother factor for a change is Marriage, now even masai marries people from different tribes not like in the past, this helps to bring those changes as if you marry a woman from Chagga land then she will cook banana and other food that they are eating from their tribe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "weather change is also affecting the way people eat, this is because it depends with the season when it is spring we have lots of milk and meat because there is a lot of grasses so cow food is not a problem, but during summer it is dry so even the availability of milk is very low so we find other type of food to eat.\n\nAlso health wise, when we go to see doctors we a being advised to eat health food like fish, vegetables , fruits and other food rather than only meat and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about changes in a way of living does this also make you eat different kind of food from the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8729195364810002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mixed up with different people from different tribes contributes to those changes, in the past Maasai we were living in the forest all by ourselves without mixed up with other tribes but now we are living in town with different people, so this causes to adopt other people’s way of living including what they eat.\n\nAnother factor for a change is Marriage, now even masai marries people from different tribes not like in the past, this helps to bring those changes as if you marry a woman from Chagga land then she will cook banana and other food that they are eating from their tribe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "weather change is also affecting the way people eat, this is because it depends with the season when it is spring we have lots of milk and meat because there is a lot of grasses so cow food is not a problem, but during summer it is dry so even the availability of milk is very low so we find other type of food to eat.\n\nAlso health wise, when we go to see doctors we a being advised to eat health food like fish, vegetables , fruits and other food rather than only meat and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about changes in a way of living does this also make you eat different kind of food from the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes also that because in the past we were doing livestock keeping only, but now we a mixing livestock and crop cultivation. Therefore we sell our cows to get other food and cultivate for our home use.\n\nanother effect or reason is a change in economy, now a days we don’t have many cow as before due to this reason we have to find other ways of finding food by growing crops and sell some and some we use as food at home, and once we get money we buy other kind of food that are not available at home like sugar, tomato, vegetable, rice and others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any change of responsibilities between men and women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9699105960900002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "weather change is also affecting the way people eat, this is because it depends with the season when it is spring we have lots of milk and meat because there is a lot of grasses so cow food is not a problem, but during summer it is dry so even the availability of milk is very low so we find other type of food to eat.\n\nAlso health wise, when we go to see doctors we a being advised to eat health food like fish, vegetables , fruits and other food rather than only meat and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about changes in a way of living does this also make you eat different kind of food from the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes also that because in the past we were doing livestock keeping only, but now we a mixing livestock and crop cultivation. Therefore we sell our cows to get other food and cultivate for our home use.\n\nanother effect or reason is a change in economy, now a days we don’t have many cow as before due to this reason we have to find other ways of finding food by growing crops and sell some and some we use as food at home, and once we get money we buy other kind of food that are not available at home like sugar, tomato, vegetable, rice and others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any change of responsibilities between men and women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not realy, just like in the past women have the duty of taking care of kids and house and they just do small growing of crops at home and move around to sell eggs, and sweet bananas. But men are the main people who taking care of the cow and find money and food for their families. So there are just some few adjustments to women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the change in food price does this affect the change in consumption of a certain type of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0776784401000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes also that because in the past we were doing livestock keeping only, but now we a mixing livestock and crop cultivation. Therefore we sell our cows to get other food and cultivate for our home use.\n\nanother effect or reason is a change in economy, now a days we don’t have many cow as before due to this reason we have to find other ways of finding food by growing crops and sell some and some we use as food at home, and once we get money we buy other kind of food that are not available at home like sugar, tomato, vegetable, rice and others"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any change of responsibilities between men and women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not realy, just like in the past women have the duty of taking care of kids and house and they just do small growing of crops at home and move around to sell eggs, and sweet bananas. But men are the main people who taking care of the cow and find money and food for their families. So there are just some few adjustments to women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the change in food price does this affect the change in consumption of a certain type of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes this goes back to the issue of weather change there are time that a certain food is available in a very high amount which causes even the price of that food to be low and so the consumption becomes higher and for other seasons some foods are very expensive because of its availability there for even its consumption becomes very minimal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of food that most people in your community don’t eat them and when some do other members of your community dislike that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1974204890000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not realy, just like in the past women have the duty of taking care of kids and house and they just do small growing of crops at home and move around to sell eggs, and sweet bananas. But men are the main people who taking care of the cow and find money and food for their families. So there are just some few adjustments to women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about the change in food price does this affect the change in consumption of a certain type of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes this goes back to the issue of weather change there are time that a certain food is available in a very high amount which causes even the price of that food to be low and so the consumption becomes higher and for other seasons some foods are very expensive because of its availability there for even its consumption becomes very minimal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of food that most people in your community don’t eat them and when some do other members of your community dislike that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Food like fish most of Masai we don’t eat fish and even when one eat fish we usually laugh and asks why a they are eating fish.\n\nAnd also most of us we don’t use cooking oil because we know oil is not good for health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what type of food that Maasai are proudly when they eat them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3304672100000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes this goes back to the issue of weather change there are time that a certain food is available in a very high amount which causes even the price of that food to be low and so the consumption becomes higher and for other seasons some foods are very expensive because of its availability there for even its consumption becomes very minimal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what kind of food that most people in your community don’t eat them and when some do other members of your community dislike that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Food like fish most of Masai we don’t eat fish and even when one eat fish we usually laugh and asks why a they are eating fish.\n\nAnd also most of us we don’t use cooking oil because we know oil is not good for health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what type of food that Maasai are proudly when they eat them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we maasai we usually feel proud when we eat Meat, Milk and animal Blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us do a small activities, we have mentioned many reasons on the things that causes the change in food intake, so among them, lets differentiate three things that have high effect on the change and three that have low effect on the change of food intake in our society"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.4782969000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Food like fish most of Masai we don’t eat fish and even when one eat fish we usually laugh and asks why a they are eating fish.\n\nAnd also most of us we don’t use cooking oil because we know oil is not good for health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what type of food that Maasai are proudly when they eat them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we maasai we usually feel proud when we eat Meat, Milk and animal Blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us do a small activities, we have mentioned many reasons on the things that causes the change in food intake, so among them, lets differentiate three things that have high effect on the change and three that have low effect on the change of food intake in our society"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Three things or reasons that bring a huge effect on change are, Education, Weather change and Decline of Economy.\n\nThree things that contribute less on a change are: marriage-because few are married outside our tribe and even when our sisters are married to another tribe are not allowed to come back home or even other members of the family to go visit them.\n\nDoctors advice-because we Maasai we still using our traditional medicine very few go the hospital\n\nMixed up with others –still most of maasai are living in the forest so this contribute less."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Section two on our discussion concern the importance of Milk to Maasai, why milk? What is the importance of milk to your tribe?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we maasai we usually feel proud when we eat Meat, Milk and animal Blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us do a small activities, we have mentioned many reasons on the things that causes the change in food intake, so among them, lets differentiate three things that have high effect on the change and three that have low effect on the change of food intake in our society"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Three things or reasons that bring a huge effect on change are, Education, Weather change and Decline of Economy.\n\nThree things that contribute less on a change are: marriage-because few are married outside our tribe and even when our sisters are married to another tribe are not allowed to come back home or even other members of the family to go visit them.\n\nDoctors advice-because we Maasai we still using our traditional medicine very few go the hospital\n\nMixed up with others –still most of maasai are living in the forest so this contribute less."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Section two on our discussion concern the importance of Milk to Maasai, why milk? What is the importance of milk to your tribe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "since past to us the only thing that we were doing is livestock keeping, that is why we usually eat meat and drink milk\n\nso, from birth after few months a child is being introduced to cow milk.\n\nmilk is very important to reduce fat in the body, building health body, remove poison milk is also health with lots of vitamins\n\nalso milk is business we sell milk we get money and use to buy other things, also in our cultural believes we use milk mixed with natural medicine and sprite or drink, and this is done when a person needs a blessing or when something bad had happened by doing so it remove those bad curse so milk is used in some ritual activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How important is milk to you now? Can you compare the importance of milk from the past and now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Three things or reasons that bring a huge effect on change are, Education, Weather change and Decline of Economy.\n\nThree things that contribute less on a change are: marriage-because few are married outside our tribe and even when our sisters are married to another tribe are not allowed to come back home or even other members of the family to go visit them.\n\nDoctors advice-because we Maasai we still using our traditional medicine very few go the hospital\n\nMixed up with others –still most of maasai are living in the forest so this contribute less."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Section two on our discussion concern the importance of Milk to Maasai, why milk? What is the importance of milk to your tribe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "since past to us the only thing that we were doing is livestock keeping, that is why we usually eat meat and drink milk\n\nso, from birth after few months a child is being introduced to cow milk.\n\nmilk is very important to reduce fat in the body, building health body, remove poison milk is also health with lots of vitamins\n\nalso milk is business we sell milk we get money and use to buy other things, also in our cultural believes we use milk mixed with natural medicine and sprite or drink, and this is done when a person needs a blessing or when something bad had happened by doing so it remove those bad curse so milk is used in some ritual activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How important is milk to you now? Can you compare the importance of milk from the past and now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in the past milk was very important and this is because there were no any other food than milk and meat. But now we eat different variety of foods.\n\nso now even elders are used to eat other type of food rather than meat and milk only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "section three concerned about drinking animal Blood, why do you drink animal blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "since past to us the only thing that we were doing is livestock keeping, that is why we usually eat meat and drink milk\n\nso, from birth after few months a child is being introduced to cow milk.\n\nmilk is very important to reduce fat in the body, building health body, remove poison milk is also health with lots of vitamins\n\nalso milk is business we sell milk we get money and use to buy other things, also in our cultural believes we use milk mixed with natural medicine and sprite or drink, and this is done when a person needs a blessing or when something bad had happened by doing so it remove those bad curse so milk is used in some ritual activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How important is milk to you now? Can you compare the importance of milk from the past and now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in the past milk was very important and this is because there were no any other food than milk and meat. But now we eat different variety of foods.\n\nso now even elders are used to eat other type of food rather than meat and milk only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "section three concerned about drinking animal Blood, why do you drink animal blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We drink animal blood because it has lots of benefits to the body. Animal blood helps to reduce heart beats when you run fast, also drinking animal blood is in our culture.\n\nalso blood is given to pregnancy women so as it helps to increase the volume of blood so it can help them during delivery"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do people now drink blood as in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "in the past milk was very important and this is because there were no any other food than milk and meat. But now we eat different variety of foods.\n\nso now even elders are used to eat other type of food rather than meat and milk only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "section three concerned about drinking animal Blood, why do you drink animal blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We drink animal blood because it has lots of benefits to the body. Animal blood helps to reduce heart beats when you run fast, also drinking animal blood is in our culture.\n\nalso blood is given to pregnancy women so as it helps to increase the volume of blood so it can help them during delivery"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do people now drink blood as in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No most people now they don’t drink blood only pregnancy women are given."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why suddenly a change of not drinking animal blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We drink animal blood because it has lots of benefits to the body. Animal blood helps to reduce heart beats when you run fast, also drinking animal blood is in our culture.\n\nalso blood is given to pregnancy women so as it helps to increase the volume of blood so it can help them during delivery"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do people now drink blood as in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No most people now they don’t drink blood only pregnancy women are given."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why suddenly a change of not drinking animal blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are some reasons that lead to that change, education-people are getting education on the effects of drinking animal blood e.g. bacteria that a available in un cooked blood\n\nAlso religious believes stopped us from drinking blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We talked a lot about food changes in your community so what are the effects of those changes to youth?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No most people now they don’t drink blood only pregnancy women are given."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why suddenly a change of not drinking animal blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are some reasons that lead to that change, education-people are getting education on the effects of drinking animal blood e.g. bacteria that a available in un cooked blood\n\nAlso religious believes stopped us from drinking blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We talked a lot about food changes in your community so what are the effects of those changes to youth?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of the effects of the food change to our community are most youth loses their ability to run in a long distance because they no longer drink blood like in the past.\n\nAlso now there a lot of different diseases that affects many because of the kind of food that people are eating .e.g. heart diseases due to the use of oil in food.\n\nAlso, sugar is bad to the health"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do this change affect the inter relationship between the Maasai?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are some reasons that lead to that change, education-people are getting education on the effects of drinking animal blood e.g. bacteria that a available in un cooked blood\n\nAlso religious believes stopped us from drinking blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We talked a lot about food changes in your community so what are the effects of those changes to youth?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of the effects of the food change to our community are most youth loses their ability to run in a long distance because they no longer drink blood like in the past.\n\nAlso now there a lot of different diseases that affects many because of the kind of food that people are eating .e.g. heart diseases due to the use of oil in food.\n\nAlso, sugar is bad to the health"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do this change affect the inter relationship between the Maasai?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes because before there were different food for a certain tribe but now we a eating different food and ignore or forget the roots of our culture/tribe and follow/adopt other culture. And this means we break our own rules n believes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another issue we are going to discuss is about Food choices, what might be the reason for choosing a certain type of food and not the other?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of the effects of the food change to our community are most youth loses their ability to run in a long distance because they no longer drink blood like in the past.\n\nAlso now there a lot of different diseases that affects many because of the kind of food that people are eating .e.g. heart diseases due to the use of oil in food.\n\nAlso, sugar is bad to the health"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do this change affect the inter relationship between the Maasai?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes because before there were different food for a certain tribe but now we a eating different food and ignore or forget the roots of our culture/tribe and follow/adopt other culture. And this means we break our own rules n believes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another issue we are going to discuss is about Food choices, what might be the reason for choosing a certain type of food and not the other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some reasons for this Might be the food that you see more often attracts you more e.g. chips\n\nAlso you get tired of eating same kind of food everyday thus why you change and eat something else. Sickness can make you have appetite for different kind of food you are used too\n\nSometimes it’s just a craving for a certain food. Friends influence\n\nMoney (when you have money you can buy anything you want)\n\nThe smell of the food can make you want to eat that food.\n\nThe look of the food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what are the main three reasons from those above contributes more on choosing food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes because before there were different food for a certain tribe but now we a eating different food and ignore or forget the roots of our culture/tribe and follow/adopt other culture. And this means we break our own rules n believes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another issue we are going to discuss is about Food choices, what might be the reason for choosing a certain type of food and not the other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some reasons for this Might be the food that you see more often attracts you more e.g. chips\n\nAlso you get tired of eating same kind of food everyday thus why you change and eat something else. Sickness can make you have appetite for different kind of food you are used too\n\nSometimes it’s just a craving for a certain food. Friends influence\n\nMoney (when you have money you can buy anything you want)\n\nThe smell of the food can make you want to eat that food.\n\nThe look of the food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what are the main three reasons from those above contributes more on choosing food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The main reasons that contribute more are the appearance of the food (when you see it is attractive you buy)\n\nThe food that your used to eat\n\nMoney"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the things that contribute less on food choices"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some reasons for this Might be the food that you see more often attracts you more e.g. chips\n\nAlso you get tired of eating same kind of food everyday thus why you change and eat something else. Sickness can make you have appetite for different kind of food you are used too\n\nSometimes it’s just a craving for a certain food. Friends influence\n\nMoney (when you have money you can buy anything you want)\n\nThe smell of the food can make you want to eat that food.\n\nThe look of the food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what are the main three reasons from those above contributes more on choosing food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The main reasons that contribute more are the appearance of the food (when you see it is attractive you buy)\n\nThe food that your used to eat\n\nMoney"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the things that contribute less on food choices"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some things/reason contribute less to the food choices some are tired of eating same food for long at home-this contribute less because it depends with what your parents condition poor or can afford change of food\n\nSickness –this contribute low because not every time people get sick\n\nFriends influence- you can be influenced but it depends with your pocket (money)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Other part of discussion is about, how does school contributes to the youth participation in the community activities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The main reasons that contribute more are the appearance of the food (when you see it is attractive you buy)\n\nThe food that your used to eat\n\nMoney"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the things that contribute less on food choices"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some things/reason contribute less to the food choices some are tired of eating same food for long at home-this contribute less because it depends with what your parents condition poor or can afford change of food\n\nSickness –this contribute low because not every time people get sick\n\nFriends influence- you can be influenced but it depends with your pocket (money)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Other part of discussion is about, how does school contributes to the youth participation in the community activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To us the maasai the majority participants of home activities are youth, activities like taking care of livestock and other a done by youth so when they went to school they leave a very big gap.\n\nand also for those who reaches from A level to high learning, they become less to the participation of home activities once they done with school, because most of them are looking for other things to do like job, but if you fail and stay at home you will have to work had so as you can compensate all the expenses that were used when you went to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On our last part of discussion we want to know; where do youth get education or information concerning health food and nutrition and all kind of good food that will improve their health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some things/reason contribute less to the food choices some are tired of eating same food for long at home-this contribute less because it depends with what your parents condition poor or can afford change of food\n\nSickness –this contribute low because not every time people get sick\n\nFriends influence- you can be influenced but it depends with your pocket (money)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Other part of discussion is about, how does school contributes to the youth participation in the community activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To us the maasai the majority participants of home activities are youth, activities like taking care of livestock and other a done by youth so when they went to school they leave a very big gap.\n\nand also for those who reaches from A level to high learning, they become less to the participation of home activities once they done with school, because most of them are looking for other things to do like job, but if you fail and stay at home you will have to work had so as you can compensate all the expenses that were used when you went to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On our last part of discussion we want to know; where do youth get education or information concerning health food and nutrition and all kind of good food that will improve their health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have a dispensary here at our village where we a going and get education (only once we a sick)\n\nAt home our parents teaches us some of the importance of good food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how does the education from dispensary helps to eat health meal?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To us the maasai the majority participants of home activities are youth, activities like taking care of livestock and other a done by youth so when they went to school they leave a very big gap.\n\nand also for those who reaches from A level to high learning, they become less to the participation of home activities once they done with school, because most of them are looking for other things to do like job, but if you fail and stay at home you will have to work had so as you can compensate all the expenses that were used when you went to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On our last part of discussion we want to know; where do youth get education or information concerning health food and nutrition and all kind of good food that will improve their health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have a dispensary here at our village where we a going and get education (only once we a sick)\n\nAt home our parents teaches us some of the importance of good food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how does the education from dispensary helps to eat health meal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It does help because when u get advice from a doctor you will start eating health so as you can get better"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How will education/ information about food and health will have positive effect in your society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have a dispensary here at our village where we a going and get education (only once we a sick)\n\nAt home our parents teaches us some of the importance of good food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how does the education from dispensary helps to eat health meal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It does help because when u get advice from a doctor you will start eating health so as you can get better"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How will education/ information about food and health will have positive effect in your society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will help a lot because we all know that when someone is in good health he /she can work very hard and have a better life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we make that information to be of a good effect in the society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It does help because when u get advice from a doctor you will start eating health so as you can get better"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How will education/ information about food and health will have positive effect in your society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will help a lot because we all know that when someone is in good health he /she can work very hard and have a better life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we make that information to be of a good effect in the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are different ways to do so, education for all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can that education be provided"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00004:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will help a lot because we all know that when someone is in good health he /she can work very hard and have a better life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we make that information to be of a good effect in the society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are different ways to do so, education for all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can that education be provided"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education can be provided through; Advertisement (it can be done through those advertising cars may be after every 3 months)\n\nMeetings (can be done into small groups either at school or in the village)\n\nBillboards (they should contain words and pictures for those who can’t read then they can understand through pictures)\n\nEncouragement between villagers and also that education can be provided by Doctors, village leaders, tribe leaders"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any question or suggestion?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.719973968435406, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Maybe you want to elaborate what has been good for you, what’s not so good for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the lessons, the length period are okay, like suitable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it’s suitable. Can you describe to me one most memorable lesson? Maybe I help you so that it’s not memory work, help y’all recall. So y’all had a descriptive compo, no sorry you had a writing a speech to persuade classmates to set up a booth during Green Fest.\n\nThen y’all also did an expository composition. And then a personal recount about jobs, and then y’all ended off with descriptive compo. It’s also about jobs, I’m not quite sure what it is all about. So out of all these which one did you like most or dislike most, which was the most memorable for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the personal recount regarding the jobs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, okay. Why?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7999710760393401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the lessons, the length period are okay, like suitable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it’s suitable. Can you describe to me one most memorable lesson? Maybe I help you so that it’s not memory work, help y’all recall. So y’all had a descriptive compo, no sorry you had a writing a speech to persuade classmates to set up a booth during Green Fest.\n\nThen y’all also did an expository composition. And then a personal recount about jobs, and then y’all ended off with descriptive compo. It’s also about jobs, I’m not quite sure what it is all about. So out of all these which one did you like most or dislike most, which was the most memorable for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the personal recount regarding the jobs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, okay. Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I plan it like maybe next year Sec 4 I get part time job during June holiday."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. So it’s useful, this thing that you’re learning. I notice you nodding your head so thank you so much. What about Serene? Just now you had a smiley face, so what has been memorable for you in this CDAC tuition program?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8888567511548223, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the personal recount regarding the jobs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, okay. Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I plan it like maybe next year Sec 4 I get part time job during June holiday."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. So it’s useful, this thing that you’re learning. I notice you nodding your head so thank you so much. What about Serene? Just now you had a smiley face, so what has been memorable for you in this CDAC tuition program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Writing with Scribo and learning stuff? And doing stuff with the other classmates."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah so I see that you like doing stuff with them. So you say “learning”, can you tell me what is the thing that you learn most in these few weeks? In this CDAC?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.987618612394247, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I plan it like maybe next year Sec 4 I get part time job during June holiday."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. So it’s useful, this thing that you’re learning. I notice you nodding your head so thank you so much. What about Serene? Just now you had a smiley face, so what has been memorable for you in this CDAC tuition program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Writing with Scribo and learning stuff? And doing stuff with the other classmates."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah so I see that you like doing stuff with them. So you say “learning”, can you tell me what is the thing that you learn most in these few weeks? In this CDAC?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what did you..because last year you didn’t have the comprehension part right? So what was the lesson that you remembered most and why did you remember it?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0973540137713855, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Writing with Scribo and learning stuff? And doing stuff with the other classmates."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah so I see that you like doing stuff with them. So you say “learning”, can you tell me what is the thing that you learn most in these few weeks? In this CDAC?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what did you..because last year you didn’t have the comprehension part right? So what was the lesson that you remembered most and why did you remember it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think maybe the “ironic” part? It’s quite unique because I never really exactly know what ironic really means even though I see examples and things. When I see the cher using it and in a comprehension, then it makes me understand the comprehension more. Then I know when it’s coming out and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah I see so the question was something about “ironic” is it? It kind of tests on “ironic”. So what is it that Ms O did that helped you understand that word?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2192822375237617, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what did you..because last year you didn’t have the comprehension part right? So what was the lesson that you remembered most and why did you remember it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think maybe the “ironic” part? It’s quite unique because I never really exactly know what ironic really means even though I see examples and things. When I see the cher using it and in a comprehension, then it makes me understand the comprehension more. Then I know when it’s coming out and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah I see so the question was something about “ironic” is it? It kind of tests on “ironic”. So what is it that Ms O did that helped you understand that word?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not sure, that time...because most of the lessons for “ironic” at that time was the other tutor that was teaching."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sorry? It wasn’t Ms O is it?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3547580416930687, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think maybe the “ironic” part? It’s quite unique because I never really exactly know what ironic really means even though I see examples and things. When I see the cher using it and in a comprehension, then it makes me understand the comprehension more. Then I know when it’s coming out and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah I see so the question was something about “ironic” is it? It kind of tests on “ironic”. So what is it that Ms O did that helped you understand that word?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not sure, that time...because most of the lessons for “ironic” at that time was the other tutor that was teaching."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sorry? It wasn’t Ms O is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but I mean I don’t remember, but I mean there’s other stuff that are fun also, that are unique as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I’ll come back to you Serene, right now you try to recall what was it that the teacher did, was it by giving examples, or was it because of the discussions since you...alright? So you think about that and then you can even type it in the chat if you remember it.\n\nAnd you don’t want to forget you can type it in the chat. Okay so Samantha, talk to me about your most memorable lesson so far."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5052867129922984, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not sure, that time...because most of the lessons for “ironic” at that time was the other tutor that was teaching."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sorry? It wasn’t Ms O is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but I mean I don’t remember, but I mean there’s other stuff that are fun also, that are unique as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I’ll come back to you Serene, right now you try to recall what was it that the teacher did, was it by giving examples, or was it because of the discussions since you...alright? So you think about that and then you can even type it in the chat if you remember it.\n\nAnd you don’t want to forget you can type it in the chat. Okay so Samantha, talk to me about your most memorable lesson so far."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the most memorable one is the peer...the peer where they can give feedback, the peer feedback. So we will do a compo I think, then we’ll give each other peer feedback, so that we know where’s our weakness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, peer feedback was something that was done last year right, unlike Serene talking about comprehension? Last year didn’t have comprehension. But peer feedback, how is it same or different from last year?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5614296811025536, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but I mean I don’t remember, but I mean there’s other stuff that are fun also, that are unique as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I’ll come back to you Serene, right now you try to recall what was it that the teacher did, was it by giving examples, or was it because of the discussions since you...alright? So you think about that and then you can even type it in the chat if you remember it.\n\nAnd you don’t want to forget you can type it in the chat. Okay so Samantha, talk to me about your most memorable lesson so far."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the most memorable one is the peer...the peer where they can give feedback, the peer feedback. So we will do a compo I think, then we’ll give each other peer feedback, so that we know where’s our weakness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, peer feedback was something that was done last year right, unlike Serene talking about comprehension? Last year didn’t have comprehension. But peer feedback, how is it same or different from last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This year, the way they ask the questions about whether this compo is good...they increased the questions compared to last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, they gave y’all question prompts right? Okay. Were y’all using the rubrics to give feedback?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6238107567806151, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the most memorable one is the peer...the peer where they can give feedback, the peer feedback. So we will do a compo I think, then we’ll give each other peer feedback, so that we know where’s our weakness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, peer feedback was something that was done last year right, unlike Serene talking about comprehension? Last year didn’t have comprehension. But peer feedback, how is it same or different from last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This year, the way they ask the questions about whether this compo is good...they increased the questions compared to last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, they gave y’all question prompts right? Okay. Were y’all using the rubrics to give feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Because I see here “review your partner’s essay using the rubrics”, but it’s for the content. So I suppose Scribo takes care of the language part, the mechanics, the grammar, then y’all can give feedback for the content. Yeah so that’s great!\n\nSerene so have you been able to remember what was it that the teacher did to help you understand irony?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6931230630895724, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This year, the way they ask the questions about whether this compo is good...they increased the questions compared to last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, they gave y’all question prompts right? Okay. Were y’all using the rubrics to give feedback?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Because I see here “review your partner’s essay using the rubrics”, but it’s for the content. So I suppose Scribo takes care of the language part, the mechanics, the grammar, then y’all can give feedback for the content. Yeah so that’s great!\n\nSerene so have you been able to remember what was it that the teacher did to help you understand irony?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cher teached me irony by reading us, showing us the comprehension...?? then she pointed out the important parts and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it’s very much guided. At this point I want y’all to tell me, all these things that you’re telling me, peer feedback, comprehension, then with Simon the personal recount and all, how is this same or different from what y’all are doing at Sec 3 at school?\n\nSo maybe we start with Simon, are you shaking your head or is it because you...it’s very different is it? Or is it the same?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8557074852957683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cher teached me irony by reading us, showing us the comprehension...?? then she pointed out the important parts and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so it’s very much guided. At this point I want y’all to tell me, all these things that you’re telling me, peer feedback, comprehension, then with Simon the personal recount and all, how is this same or different from what y’all are doing at Sec 3 at school?\n\nSo maybe we start with Simon, are you shaking your head or is it because you...it’s very different is it? Or is it the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s quite different."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because usually at school, regarding to the academic subjects, we all usually do on paper, as opposed to the Scribo we usually do on the Scribo platform."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, okay. Is that good or bad?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.950786094773076, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s quite different."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because usually at school, regarding to the academic subjects, we all usually do on paper, as opposed to the Scribo we usually do on the Scribo platform."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, okay. Is that good or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wait sorry which one is good? The writing on paper is good?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0564289941923066, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because usually at school, regarding to the academic subjects, we all usually do on paper, as opposed to the Scribo we usually do on the Scribo platform."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, okay. Is that good or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wait sorry which one is good? The writing on paper is good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the one where we use the Scribo platform."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh why is that? Leceh isn’t is? I mean you have to open your computer and all that. It’s troublesome-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1738099935470072, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wait sorry which one is good? The writing on paper is good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the one where we use the Scribo platform."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh why is that? Leceh isn’t is? I mean you have to open your computer and all that. It’s troublesome-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I feel it’s more easier to type rather than having to write on the paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh I see, it’s easier to type. Can you tell me why it’s easier to type? I mean for some students they tell me it’s because they can cut and paste, but in paper you have to use the correction tape. Can you tell me the reason why it’s easier?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3042333261633412, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the one where we use the Scribo platform."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh why is that? Leceh isn’t is? I mean you have to open your computer and all that. It’s troublesome-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I feel it’s more easier to type rather than having to write on the paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh I see, it’s easier to type. Can you tell me why it’s easier to type? I mean for some students they tell me it’s because they can cut and paste, but in paper you have to use the correction tape. Can you tell me the reason why it’s easier?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the reasons is one of those that you said, like you don’t need to use your correction tape whenever you make a mistake as opposed to use the Scribo platform. You can just select the word that you want to replace or delete, and you can type a new word in replacement of the word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. I know that Scribo also can recommend the corrections right? Okay. Is that good or bad?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.44914814018149, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I feel it’s more easier to type rather than having to write on the paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh I see, it’s easier to type. Can you tell me why it’s easier to type? I mean for some students they tell me it’s because they can cut and paste, but in paper you have to use the correction tape. Can you tell me the reason why it’s easier?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the reasons is one of those that you said, like you don’t need to use your correction tape whenever you make a mistake as opposed to use the Scribo platform. You can just select the word that you want to replace or delete, and you can type a new word in replacement of the word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. I know that Scribo also can recommend the corrections right? Okay. Is that good or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? Isn’t it irritating to have this thing telling you what to do?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.6101646002016556, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the reasons is one of those that you said, like you don’t need to use your correction tape whenever you make a mistake as opposed to use the Scribo platform. You can just select the word that you want to replace or delete, and you can type a new word in replacement of the word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. I know that Scribo also can recommend the corrections right? Okay. Is that good or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? Isn’t it irritating to have this thing telling you what to do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, because as opposed to when you write on the paper, usually you have to show the teacher, and if you don’t understand anything, you have to go the teacher personally and ask. But then for Scribo you can just sit down and do, it will help you check. And then if...yeah that’s one of the plus points."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. So I guess it’s not just Scribo checking but Scribo can also give you immediate feedback right? Okay. Thank you Simon, I think that’s a very good point. What about Serene? How do you feel about what you’re doing in CDAC compared to school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6779606668907286, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? Isn’t it irritating to have this thing telling you what to do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, because as opposed to when you write on the paper, usually you have to show the teacher, and if you don’t understand anything, you have to go the teacher personally and ask. But then for Scribo you can just sit down and do, it will help you check. And then if...yeah that’s one of the plus points."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. So I guess it’s not just Scribo checking but Scribo can also give you immediate feedback right? Okay. Thank you Simon, I think that’s a very good point. What about Serene? How do you feel about what you’re doing in CDAC compared to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wouldn’t say much of a difference, other than in CDAC we use Scribo app, and then in school we use Word Document. I would say the difference is that using Word Document still only help you to change the grammar, punctuation mistakes and stuff.\n\nBut they won’t give you comments about what mistake or...they’ll just help you change those grammar and spelling and stuff. But Scribo they will check everyone detail, and then they’ll give you a scoring system to see how well you do, to show what you missed out and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. I was just wondering do y’all use Scribo in school? Since you already typing into...no? Why not? Not allowed to, or you don’t want to, or what?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8369884776428749, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wouldn’t say much of a difference, other than in CDAC we use Scribo app, and then in school we use Word Document. I would say the difference is that using Word Document still only help you to change the grammar, punctuation mistakes and stuff.\n\nBut they won’t give you comments about what mistake or...they’ll just help you change those grammar and spelling and stuff. But Scribo they will check everyone detail, and then they’ll give you a scoring system to see how well you do, to show what you missed out and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. I was just wondering do y’all use Scribo in school? Since you already typing into...no? Why not? Not allowed to, or you don’t want to, or what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t know we could use Scribo for our school stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, actually I checked with C, the nice lady I forgot her surname. She says can, and you guys are strongly advised to because it’s paid for already. So that’s why I’m like “Huh? Y’all have the platform, go and use it!”\n\nThat’s one thing y’all should be mindful of because unlike Simon who’s still submitting paper and pen, in your case, using Word Document anyway, I hear that soon they’ll put it as a add-on in SLS. Scribo. For everybody nationwide.\n\nSo you guys are the first movers, you all are the very first people to be using Scribo, so please make use of it. Thank you so much for that. What about Samantha, how is this same or different from school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it’s different, because using Scribo is like virtual learning, then for school it’s more on the physical side. And I think on the virtual side you can actually understand more about what went wrong, but in school you can’t really focus at your errors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s a very interesting point. What is it that helped you understand more in this CDAC program?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.03331910820108, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it’s different, because using Scribo is like virtual learning, then for school it’s more on the physical side. And I think on the virtual side you can actually understand more about what went wrong, but in school you can’t really focus at your errors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s a very interesting point. What is it that helped you understand more in this CDAC program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Example if like compo, using Scribo when you do this wrongly, then maybe you can improve it more. But in school, sometimes if the teacher are busy or something, then you can’t actually focus in what you’re weak at."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. So what I’m hearing from you is almost like what Simon said earlier on, there’s that immediate check and feedback, rather than wait for teacher. Okay so that’s a good...I’m glad that that helped. So based on what y’all have told me, we will go a little more specific since we’ve been talking about Scribo.\n\nWe will go a little more specific into Scribo itself. So what I hear from you all is that it can tell you mistakes and stuff like that. I just want to understand more, whether you all understand the feedback given by Scribo? Or are there times you scratch your head and sort of like “Huh? What is it talking about?”\n\nMaybe again we’ll start with Simon? What helps you understand the feedback from Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The explanation whenever you use the “check” feature, like if you have to replace a word with something they’ll usually give you an explanation of why you must replace the word, or the suggested words that they give you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh they actually explain? Can you give me an example?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1481323424456444, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Example if like compo, using Scribo when you do this wrongly, then maybe you can improve it more. But in school, sometimes if the teacher are busy or something, then you can’t actually focus in what you’re weak at."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. So what I’m hearing from you is almost like what Simon said earlier on, there’s that immediate check and feedback, rather than wait for teacher. Okay so that’s a good...I’m glad that that helped. So based on what y’all have told me, we will go a little more specific since we’ve been talking about Scribo.\n\nWe will go a little more specific into Scribo itself. So what I hear from you all is that it can tell you mistakes and stuff like that. I just want to understand more, whether you all understand the feedback given by Scribo? Or are there times you scratch your head and sort of like “Huh? What is it talking about?”\n\nMaybe again we’ll start with Simon? What helps you understand the feedback from Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The explanation whenever you use the “check” feature, like if you have to replace a word with something they’ll usually give you an explanation of why you must replace the word, or the suggested words that they give you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh they actually explain? Can you give me an example?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the grammar, they will tell you why you have to replace this word, or why it’s wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, can you remember one mistake which you commonly made until you made use of Scribo? And then now you know why that’s wrong?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2757026027173826, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The explanation whenever you use the “check” feature, like if you have to replace a word with something they’ll usually give you an explanation of why you must replace the word, or the suggested words that they give you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh they actually explain? Can you give me an example?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the grammar, they will tell you why you have to replace this word, or why it’s wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, can you remember one mistake which you commonly made until you made use of Scribo? And then now you know why that’s wrong?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the wrong usage of “was” and “were”, and “r”s and “m”s those words at the wrong timing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you mean “was” and “were” is it? Was that the example that you gave me?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4174473363526472, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the grammar, they will tell you why you have to replace this word, or why it’s wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, can you remember one mistake which you commonly made until you made use of Scribo? And then now you know why that’s wrong?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the wrong usage of “was” and “were”, and “r”s and “m”s those words at the wrong timing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you mean “was” and “were” is it? Was that the example that you gave me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah something like that, something similar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so why is it wrong to use “was” ?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5749414848362746, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe the wrong usage of “was” and “were”, and “r”s and “m”s those words at the wrong timing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you mean “was” and “were” is it? Was that the example that you gave me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah something like that, something similar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so why is it wrong to use “was” ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot really remember what...."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Fair. When you can remember you type it into the chatbox then you let me know about it. Maybe Serene was there something in Simon’s case where you didn’t know something was wrong, and then through using Scribo you understand it better? Do you have an example?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7499349831514162, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah something like that, something similar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so why is it wrong to use “was” ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot really remember what...."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Fair. When you can remember you type it into the chatbox then you let me know about it. Maybe Serene was there something in Simon’s case where you didn’t know something was wrong, and then through using Scribo you understand it better? Do you have an example?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sticky sentences. In my every comprehension there’s always sticky sentences causing my whole paragraph to become very huge. Then Scribo will help me to reduce- rephrase the sticky sentences, remove some unnecessary words.\n\nThen after that this will reduce the number of words in the paragraph. Then it might reach to the normal levels of words that I’m supposed to write. Then it improves my grades when I do things, and grammar mistakes and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so there are 2 parts. Can you explain to me what sticky sentence is? Imagine your classmate “Serene, what is sticky sentence?”"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9443722035015736, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot really remember what...."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Fair. When you can remember you type it into the chatbox then you let me know about it. Maybe Serene was there something in Simon’s case where you didn’t know something was wrong, and then through using Scribo you understand it better? Do you have an example?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sticky sentences. In my every comprehension there’s always sticky sentences causing my whole paragraph to become very huge. Then Scribo will help me to reduce- rephrase the sticky sentences, remove some unnecessary words.\n\nThen after that this will reduce the number of words in the paragraph. Then it might reach to the normal levels of words that I’m supposed to write. Then it improves my grades when I do things, and grammar mistakes and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so there are 2 parts. Can you explain to me what sticky sentence is? Imagine your classmate “Serene, what is sticky sentence?”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s like a whole sentence, it can be a normal sentence but then I add in a lot of unnecessary words to make it difficult for the reader to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see, okay. Then second part you were saying that it increased your grade, are you talking about Scribo score or generally back in school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0493024483350817, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sticky sentences. In my every comprehension there’s always sticky sentences causing my whole paragraph to become very huge. Then Scribo will help me to reduce- rephrase the sticky sentences, remove some unnecessary words.\n\nThen after that this will reduce the number of words in the paragraph. Then it might reach to the normal levels of words that I’m supposed to write. Then it improves my grades when I do things, and grammar mistakes and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so there are 2 parts. Can you explain to me what sticky sentence is? Imagine your classmate “Serene, what is sticky sentence?”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s like a whole sentence, it can be a normal sentence but then I add in a lot of unnecessary words to make it difficult for the reader to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see, okay. Then second part you were saying that it increased your grade, are you talking about Scribo score or generally back in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I meant by Scribo grades."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay so the Scribo score went up, I mean improved. Okay great. Later on we’ll talk about what are the improvements you all have experienced. Come Samantha, what about yourself? How has it been? How has Scribo helped you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.05478049815009071, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s like a whole sentence, it can be a normal sentence but then I add in a lot of unnecessary words to make it difficult for the reader to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see, okay. Then second part you were saying that it increased your grade, are you talking about Scribo score or generally back in school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I meant by Scribo grades."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay so the Scribo score went up, I mean improved. Okay great. Later on we’ll talk about what are the improvements you all have experienced. Come Samantha, what about yourself? How has it been? How has Scribo helped you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think example is maybe my sentences doesn’t make sense, then it help me improve it by maybe removing some words and add some words so that the whole sentence makes some sense.\n\nBecause sometimes my sentences sound very Singlish, I think. So maybe it helped me change to write the sentences to be more accurate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So it changed from inaccurate expression to better expression. So Samantha do you make use of Scribo in your school work?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.060867220166767454, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I meant by Scribo grades."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay so the Scribo score went up, I mean improved. Okay great. Later on we’ll talk about what are the improvements you all have experienced. Come Samantha, what about yourself? How has it been? How has Scribo helped you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think example is maybe my sentences doesn’t make sense, then it help me improve it by maybe removing some words and add some words so that the whole sentence makes some sense.\n\nBecause sometimes my sentences sound very Singlish, I think. So maybe it helped me change to write the sentences to be more accurate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So it changed from inaccurate expression to better expression. So Samantha do you make use of Scribo in your school work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No? Okay. So it seems as if it has helped you with your expression, so my next question is did your teacher notice any difference? Your teacher in school, not Ms O. Did your teacher back in school notice any difference in your writing?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.06763024462974161, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think example is maybe my sentences doesn’t make sense, then it help me improve it by maybe removing some words and add some words so that the whole sentence makes some sense.\n\nBecause sometimes my sentences sound very Singlish, I think. So maybe it helped me change to write the sentences to be more accurate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So it changed from inaccurate expression to better expression. So Samantha do you make use of Scribo in your school work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No? Okay. So it seems as if it has helped you with your expression, so my next question is did your teacher notice any difference? Your teacher in school, not Ms O. Did your teacher back in school notice any difference in your writing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so because teacher didn’t really notice some people...some compo maybe. So maybe she didn’t really notice my work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. But yourself, in your school work, did you see fewer circling, underlining by your teachers?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07514471625526846, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No? Okay. So it seems as if it has helped you with your expression, so my next question is did your teacher notice any difference? Your teacher in school, not Ms O. Did your teacher back in school notice any difference in your writing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so because teacher didn’t really notice some people...some compo maybe. So maybe she didn’t really notice my work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. But yourself, in your school work, did you see fewer circling, underlining by your teachers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. There’s fewer already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh there’s fewer, how does that make you feel?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.08349412917252051, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so because teacher didn’t really notice some people...some compo maybe. So maybe she didn’t really notice my work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. But yourself, in your school work, did you see fewer circling, underlining by your teachers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. There’s fewer already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh there’s fewer, how does that make you feel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can do it better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you want to do better but it also shows that you have improved? Yeah? I don’t suppose it’s fair to ask, but did you see a change in your marks or anything like that? It’s okay if there’s no change, because English is like that, when it’s a more difficult topic, your marks can go down.\n\nBut did you see any change in your marks or anything like that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.09277125463613389, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. There’s fewer already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh there’s fewer, how does that make you feel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can do it better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you want to do better but it also shows that you have improved? Yeah? I don’t suppose it’s fair to ask, but did you see a change in your marks or anything like that? It’s okay if there’s no change, because English is like that, when it’s a more difficult topic, your marks can go down.\n\nBut did you see any change in your marks or anything like that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really though, but there’s fewer mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay great. I would come back and talk about not just compo, but maybe editing, we will talk about that later on. Simon what about yourself, did your teacher in school notice any difference in your school work?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.10307917181792654, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can do it better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you want to do better but it also shows that you have improved? Yeah? I don’t suppose it’s fair to ask, but did you see a change in your marks or anything like that? It’s okay if there’s no change, because English is like that, when it’s a more difficult topic, your marks can go down.\n\nBut did you see any change in your marks or anything like that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really though, but there’s fewer mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay great. I would come back and talk about not just compo, but maybe editing, we will talk about that later on. Simon what about yourself, did your teacher in school notice any difference in your school work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but you yourself, what do you think?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.11453241313102949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really though, but there’s fewer mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay great. I would come back and talk about not just compo, but maybe editing, we will talk about that later on. Simon what about yourself, did your teacher in school notice any difference in your school work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but you yourself, what do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think yeah, a bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It has improved? Can you give me an example of why you think it has improved a bit?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12725823681225498, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but you yourself, what do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think yeah, a bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It has improved? Can you give me an example of why you think it has improved a bit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I feel like overall, for example writing composition, I feel like my sentences are more stronger compared to the ones that I wrote previously before I used Scribo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. Simon do y’all have editing...part of comprehension... there’s a editing test right? You edit for grammar. How have you been doing in the editing one?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.14139804090250555, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think yeah, a bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It has improved? Can you give me an example of why you think it has improved a bit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I feel like overall, for example writing composition, I feel like my sentences are more stronger compared to the ones that I wrote previously before I used Scribo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. Simon do y’all have editing...part of comprehension... there’s a editing test right? You edit for grammar. How have you been doing in the editing one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I feel like I’m doing so far okay. Much better with Scribo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you’re doing better. Okay that’s great! Congratulations. What about Serene? Did your teacher see any improvement or comment on any improvement?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.15710893433611728, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I feel like overall, for example writing composition, I feel like my sentences are more stronger compared to the ones that I wrote previously before I used Scribo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. Simon do y’all have editing...part of comprehension... there’s a editing test right? You edit for grammar. How have you been doing in the editing one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I feel like I’m doing so far okay. Much better with Scribo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you’re doing better. Okay that’s great! Congratulations. What about Serene? Did your teacher see any improvement or comment on any improvement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nope."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you yourself? What do you feel?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.17456548259568586, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I feel like I’m doing so far okay. Much better with Scribo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh you’re doing better. Okay that’s great! Congratulations. What about Serene? Did your teacher see any improvement or comment on any improvement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nope."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you yourself? What do you feel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m not sure but I think I improved a little bit on my comprehension?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh on comprehension. So what has helped in comprehension?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.19396164732853985, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nope."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you yourself? What do you feel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m not sure but I think I improved a little bit on my comprehension?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh on comprehension. So what has helped in comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can understand for some passages in a easier way, I mean I can understand the comprehension passage easier now, better than last time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that’s interesting. Was it anything to do with how CDAC teaches you to do comprehension? So you feel that you’ve improved, has it anything to do with what your teachers in school did, or what CDAC, Ms O did with you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.21551294147615538, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m not sure but I think I improved a little bit on my comprehension?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh on comprehension. So what has helped in comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can understand for some passages in a easier way, I mean I can understand the comprehension passage easier now, better than last time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that’s interesting. Was it anything to do with how CDAC teaches you to do comprehension? So you feel that you’ve improved, has it anything to do with what your teachers in school did, or what CDAC, Ms O did with you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say both sides."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So can you point out specifically what is it that each side did to help you with your comprehension?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.23945882386239487, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can understand for some passages in a easier way, I mean I can understand the comprehension passage easier now, better than last time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that’s interesting. Was it anything to do with how CDAC teaches you to do comprehension? So you feel that you’ve improved, has it anything to do with what your teachers in school did, or what CDAC, Ms O did with you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say both sides."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So can you point out specifically what is it that each side did to help you with your comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ms O teach us different types of comprehension questions, like the inference questions...and a lot more. Then she’ll give us...I’m just flipping through the worksheet, just she’ll go according to the worksheet and she’ll teach us important things to master comprehension with.\n\nAnd then for the school side, I think the cher teach us how to annotate the comprehension passage. Then I think the teacher also teach us editing and stuff to help us improve on grammar and everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. So this thing about sticky sentences, I’m just wondering about the fact that you were able to...it just occurred to me that the fact that you can break down long sentences, sticky sentences in your own work. Did it help you to break down long sentences in comprehension as well? For Serene?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2660653598471054, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say both sides."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So can you point out specifically what is it that each side did to help you with your comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ms O teach us different types of comprehension questions, like the inference questions...and a lot more. Then she’ll give us...I’m just flipping through the worksheet, just she’ll go according to the worksheet and she’ll teach us important things to master comprehension with.\n\nAnd then for the school side, I think the cher teach us how to annotate the comprehension passage. Then I think the teacher also teach us editing and stuff to help us improve on grammar and everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. So this thing about sticky sentences, I’m just wondering about the fact that you were able to...it just occurred to me that the fact that you can break down long sentences, sticky sentences in your own work. Did it help you to break down long sentences in comprehension as well? For Serene?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think maybe a little or maybe not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So we’ve talked about comparing school, as well as experiences with Scribo. Can I understand what generally happens in school after you get back your work, and then compare it with what you all do in Ms O’s class?\n\nSo as usual we start with Simon, so in school you hand up the paper, and then the teacher mark and then give it back to you. And then what happens after that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2956281776078949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ms O teach us different types of comprehension questions, like the inference questions...and a lot more. Then she’ll give us...I’m just flipping through the worksheet, just she’ll go according to the worksheet and she’ll teach us important things to master comprehension with.\n\nAnd then for the school side, I think the cher teach us how to annotate the comprehension passage. Then I think the teacher also teach us editing and stuff to help us improve on grammar and everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. So this thing about sticky sentences, I’m just wondering about the fact that you were able to...it just occurred to me that the fact that you can break down long sentences, sticky sentences in your own work. Did it help you to break down long sentences in comprehension as well? For Serene?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think maybe a little or maybe not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So we’ve talked about comparing school, as well as experiences with Scribo. Can I understand what generally happens in school after you get back your work, and then compare it with what you all do in Ms O’s class?\n\nSo as usual we start with Simon, so in school you hand up the paper, and then the teacher mark and then give it back to you. And then what happens after that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually we do our corrections after she mark and give it back to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does she stand in front of the board and say “okay this grammar is wrong”, does she generally explain the common mistakes?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.32847575289766096, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think maybe a little or maybe not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So we’ve talked about comparing school, as well as experiences with Scribo. Can I understand what generally happens in school after you get back your work, and then compare it with what you all do in Ms O’s class?\n\nSo as usual we start with Simon, so in school you hand up the paper, and then the teacher mark and then give it back to you. And then what happens after that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually we do our corrections after she mark and give it back to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does she stand in front of the board and say “okay this grammar is wrong”, does she generally explain the common mistakes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah usually."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then for corrections, if you don’t know how to correct then what happens? So in school you’re asked to do corrections right? What if you don’t know how to correct?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3649730587751788, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually we do our corrections after she mark and give it back to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does she stand in front of the board and say “okay this grammar is wrong”, does she generally explain the common mistakes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah usually."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then for corrections, if you don’t know how to correct then what happens? So in school you’re asked to do corrections right? What if you don’t know how to correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We can usually ask the teacher then she’ll guide us if we do not know how to correct ourself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but as Serene says, or is it Samantha who says that the teacher is very busy right, then how?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4055256208613098, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah usually."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then for corrections, if you don’t know how to correct then what happens? So in school you’re asked to do corrections right? What if you don’t know how to correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We can usually ask the teacher then she’ll guide us if we do not know how to correct ourself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but as Serene says, or is it Samantha who says that the teacher is very busy right, then how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If we cannot then in the more rare cases we can arrange for...during recess we can meet her outside the staffroom for my school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so individual consultation kind of thing. Are you required to do peer assessment or self-assessment like what earlier on..."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4505840231792331, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We can usually ask the teacher then she’ll guide us if we do not know how to correct ourself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but as Serene says, or is it Samantha who says that the teacher is very busy right, then how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If we cannot then in the more rare cases we can arrange for...during recess we can meet her outside the staffroom for my school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so individual consultation kind of thing. Are you required to do peer assessment or self-assessment like what earlier on..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually no. Unless for the self-assessment, if the teacher never come then they will usually give you the answer sheet for you to self-mark."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. That’s for comprehension?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5006489146435923, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If we cannot then in the more rare cases we can arrange for...during recess we can meet her outside the staffroom for my school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so individual consultation kind of thing. Are you required to do peer assessment or self-assessment like what earlier on..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually no. Unless for the self-assessment, if the teacher never come then they will usually give you the answer sheet for you to self-mark."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. That’s for comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I take it that there’s been no peer assessment or self- assessment when it comes to compo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5562765718262136, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually no. Unless for the self-assessment, if the teacher never come then they will usually give you the answer sheet for you to self-mark."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. That’s for comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I take it that there’s been no peer assessment or self- assessment when it comes to compo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’m just curious in compo does the teacher show y’all rubrics, or give y’all checklist?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.618085079806904, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I take it that there’s been no peer assessment or self- assessment when it comes to compo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’m just curious in compo does the teacher show y’all rubrics, or give y’all checklist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "After we submit the assignment then after she mark and we do our corrections usually she will give it for my class."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But that’s after y’all..."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6867611997854488, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’m just curious in compo does the teacher show y’all rubrics, or give y’all checklist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "After we submit the assignment then after she mark and we do our corrections usually she will give it for my class."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But that’s after y’all..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For test usually, but then if it’s like homework she’ll show us beforehand and after."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So the question here is do you refer to the checklist while you’re doing your homework?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7630679997616098, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "After we submit the assignment then after she mark and we do our corrections usually she will give it for my class."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But that’s after y’all..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For test usually, but then if it’s like homework she’ll show us beforehand and after."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So the question here is do you refer to the checklist while you’re doing your homework?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do? Does it help? If it doesn’t help come help me understand."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8478533330684552, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For test usually, but then if it’s like homework she’ll show us beforehand and after."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So the question here is do you refer to the checklist while you’re doing your homework?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do? Does it help? If it doesn’t help come help me understand."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It sort of helps so I know what to do, like what to write and what not to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. I noticed that you’re talking about the content part. Obviously it’s not as helpful with the grammar."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9420592589649502, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do? Does it help? If it doesn’t help come help me understand."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It sort of helps so I know what to do, like what to write and what not to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. I noticed that you’re talking about the content part. Obviously it’s not as helpful with the grammar."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you very much. What about Serene and Samantha, do y’all have...what happens after your teacher returns your work? Maybe we start with Serene?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0467325099610558, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It sort of helps so I know what to do, like what to write and what not to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. I noticed that you’re talking about the content part. Obviously it’s not as helpful with the grammar."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you very much. What about Serene and Samantha, do y’all have...what happens after your teacher returns your work? Maybe we start with Serene?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "After the cher give out the work, the cher will just immediately talk about it. And on the exam paper, there will be comments and stuff, then the cher will take some examples from the students and show it to a screen, and teach everybody. This year, what my cher did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you find that helpful? In what way is it helpful or not helpful?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.163036122178951, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you very much. What about Serene and Samantha, do y’all have...what happens after your teacher returns your work? Maybe we start with Serene?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "After the cher give out the work, the cher will just immediately talk about it. And on the exam paper, there will be comments and stuff, then the cher will take some examples from the students and show it to a screen, and teach everybody. This year, what my cher did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you find that helpful? In what way is it helpful or not helpful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say it’s kind of helpful because there’s real examples from real students, good ones and bad ones. Then I can see if these examples, if I made the same mistakes or have a similar thing. I can learn from it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so that’s what happens in school. What about in Ms O’s class, when given work what happens after that? I mean when she returns y’all the work?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.435847064418458, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say it’s kind of helpful because there’s real examples from real students, good ones and bad ones. Then I can see if these examples, if I made the same mistakes or have a similar thing. I can learn from it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so that’s what happens in school. What about in Ms O’s class, when given work what happens after that? I mean when she returns y’all the work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Scribo one?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most likely when we finish absolutely everything then like...I don’t know if Ms O got really return us before but I think she did. But even if she did she will just use Scribo to teach us, she will let us use Scribo to do the corrections first.\n\nThen she will check us one by one on her side to see. Then after that whoever has the most problems and need the most help, or need any help, can just text her, or she will just talk in the chat. Then just pull us out into a breakout room and teach us personally."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So it’s not just one technology, and I noticed you say she also texts y’all so there’s also that Whatsapp background to support. Thank you. What about Samantha, what happens in school after y’all handed in your work and its returned, compared to what happens in Scribo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.59538562713162, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Scribo one?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most likely when we finish absolutely everything then like...I don’t know if Ms O got really return us before but I think she did. But even if she did she will just use Scribo to teach us, she will let us use Scribo to do the corrections first.\n\nThen she will check us one by one on her side to see. Then after that whoever has the most problems and need the most help, or need any help, can just text her, or she will just talk in the chat. Then just pull us out into a breakout room and teach us personally."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So it’s not just one technology, and I noticed you say she also texts y’all so there’s also that Whatsapp background to support. Thank you. What about Samantha, what happens in school after y’all handed in your work and its returned, compared to what happens in Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For school, for example if I get back my worksheet and I find out there’s mistakes I don’t understand, I will ask my friends first, like my peers. Sometimes they are better in this subject so they can actually help us. Because sometimes our teachers not free, so instead of asking them we can ask our peers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s great, you got good friends in your peers. Does your teacher ask y’all for corrections and all that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.772650696812911, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most likely when we finish absolutely everything then like...I don’t know if Ms O got really return us before but I think she did. But even if she did she will just use Scribo to teach us, she will let us use Scribo to do the corrections first.\n\nThen she will check us one by one on her side to see. Then after that whoever has the most problems and need the most help, or need any help, can just text her, or she will just talk in the chat. Then just pull us out into a breakout room and teach us personally."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So it’s not just one technology, and I noticed you say she also texts y’all so there’s also that Whatsapp background to support. Thank you. What about Samantha, what happens in school after y’all handed in your work and its returned, compared to what happens in Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For school, for example if I get back my worksheet and I find out there’s mistakes I don’t understand, I will ask my friends first, like my peers. Sometimes they are better in this subject so they can actually help us. Because sometimes our teachers not free, so instead of asking them we can ask our peers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s great, you got good friends in your peers. Does your teacher ask y’all for corrections and all that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah we do do corrections, my teacher will always go through with us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, go through with y’all. How does the teacher going through with us compare with what Scribo does? I mean Scribo also goes through right, what are the advantages, disadvantages?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0773465392751986, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah we do do corrections, my teacher will always go through with us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, go through with y’all. How does the teacher going through with us compare with what Scribo does? I mean Scribo also goes through right, what are the advantages, disadvantages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think for school one if they go through, sometimes you still don’t understand like what’s your mistakes. The teacher will actually go through quite fast so you won’t actually keep up with the path...like how teacher mark, go through the question.\n\nBut for Scribo it’s only focused on your assignment, so when it’s marked, the correction is more clearer example than the school one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. So it’s at a pace that’s comfortable to you, I mean teacher talks very fast, and...you can’t remember what she says also. But in Scribo it’s there for you all. So thank you very much for that. Now what we will do is...hi Samuel!\n\nOkay so now we all listen to Samuel. We will give Samuel some time to settle in. Samuel later I’ll have one-to-one time with you.\n\nBut let me just ask the rest first, so Samantha Serene and Simon, if I were to compare your level of confidence in writing English essays before you started CDAC program with Scribo and now, what has been the change in your confidence level? If there’s any?\n\nIs it a lot of change in confidence, a little bit of change, somewhat changed, or no change at all? Okay so let me repeat, I’m gonna type it. How much more confident are you in English composition?\n\nHow much more confident are you now in English composition compared to before your start with Scribo? Maybe Simon you wanna get started to tell me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I got more confidence, maybe 30 to 40% more confidence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s quite a bit, 20 to 30%. Why do you say that, about 30 40%?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1970517103057763, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think for school one if they go through, sometimes you still don’t understand like what’s your mistakes. The teacher will actually go through quite fast so you won’t actually keep up with the path...like how teacher mark, go through the question.\n\nBut for Scribo it’s only focused on your assignment, so when it’s marked, the correction is more clearer example than the school one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. So it’s at a pace that’s comfortable to you, I mean teacher talks very fast, and...you can’t remember what she says also. But in Scribo it’s there for you all. So thank you very much for that. Now what we will do is...hi Samuel!\n\nOkay so now we all listen to Samuel. We will give Samuel some time to settle in. Samuel later I’ll have one-to-one time with you.\n\nBut let me just ask the rest first, so Samantha Serene and Simon, if I were to compare your level of confidence in writing English essays before you started CDAC program with Scribo and now, what has been the change in your confidence level? If there’s any?\n\nIs it a lot of change in confidence, a little bit of change, somewhat changed, or no change at all? Okay so let me repeat, I’m gonna type it. How much more confident are you in English composition?\n\nHow much more confident are you now in English composition compared to before your start with Scribo? Maybe Simon you wanna get started to tell me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I got more confidence, maybe 30 to 40% more confidence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s quite a bit, 20 to 30%. Why do you say that, about 30 40%?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not really know but it’s just the mindset I think after the Scribo checks and everything, and I feel it helped me improve a lot. And I think the improving part is one of the factors for me having more confidence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. Okay because there was some improvement, so that’s why you’re more confident. Are you writing more words in your essays now?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3300574558953069, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I got more confidence, maybe 30 to 40% more confidence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s quite a bit, 20 to 30%. Why do you say that, about 30 40%?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not really know but it’s just the mindset I think after the Scribo checks and everything, and I feel it helped me improve a lot. And I think the improving part is one of the factors for me having more confidence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. Okay because there was some improvement, so that’s why you’re more confident. Are you writing more words in your essays now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even in schoolwork you’re writing more?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4778416176614522, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not really know but it’s just the mindset I think after the Scribo checks and everything, and I feel it helped me improve a lot. And I think the improving part is one of the factors for me having more confidence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I see. Okay because there was some improvement, so that’s why you’re more confident. Are you writing more words in your essays now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even in schoolwork you’re writing more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah school also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. That’s for Simon, Serene what about yourself? Are you writing more words in your schoolwork?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.642046241846058, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even in schoolwork you’re writing more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah school also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. That’s for Simon, Serene what about yourself? Are you writing more words in your schoolwork?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The confidence I would say a little bit, little bit more. My EL is always not good, my foundation’s not good, then after getting help from Scribo I feel like I improved a little bit. But my sentence structure is still very very broken, so yeah but I still think my confidence boost a little bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s good. At least it’s not the other way round right, at least you’re not worse off. Samantha what about yourself? More confident, less confident?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8244958242733977, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah school also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. That’s for Simon, Serene what about yourself? Are you writing more words in your schoolwork?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The confidence I would say a little bit, little bit more. My EL is always not good, my foundation’s not good, then after getting help from Scribo I feel like I improved a little bit. But my sentence structure is still very very broken, so yeah but I still think my confidence boost a little bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s good. At least it’s not the other way round right, at least you’re not worse off. Samantha what about yourself? More confident, less confident?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I only built a bit of confidence, because some of the mistakes that I used to know I still continue it... Because I’m used to it already, so sometimes maybe for the Scribo I can only improve...\n\nI do improve but for some, like the way that I structure the sentence, sometimes I might forget how to improve it. I will still actually get some of my mistakes that I used to have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like what you’ve said, some grammar mistakes have become a habit so it’s very hard to change. Okay. With the 3 of you, Simon Serene and Samantha, this is my one last question, then you go to the main room while I have a one- to-one cozy chat with Samuel. Because I don’t want y’all to hear the questions all over again.\n\nCan y’all describe to me how you go about doing your essay nowadays? What is your habit now when let’s say I ask y’all to write an essay? How do y’all go about doing it? Maybe Simon you start off?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9161064714148863, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The confidence I would say a little bit, little bit more. My EL is always not good, my foundation’s not good, then after getting help from Scribo I feel like I improved a little bit. But my sentence structure is still very very broken, so yeah but I still think my confidence boost a little bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s good. At least it’s not the other way round right, at least you’re not worse off. Samantha what about yourself? More confident, less confident?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I only built a bit of confidence, because some of the mistakes that I used to know I still continue it... Because I’m used to it already, so sometimes maybe for the Scribo I can only improve...\n\nI do improve but for some, like the way that I structure the sentence, sometimes I might forget how to improve it. I will still actually get some of my mistakes that I used to have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like what you’ve said, some grammar mistakes have become a habit so it’s very hard to change. Okay. With the 3 of you, Simon Serene and Samantha, this is my one last question, then you go to the main room while I have a one- to-one cozy chat with Samuel. Because I don’t want y’all to hear the questions all over again.\n\nCan y’all describe to me how you go about doing your essay nowadays? What is your habit now when let’s say I ask y’all to write an essay? How do y’all go about doing it? Maybe Simon you start off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think recalling from my recent WA2, usually for the essay I try to focus on 1 topic instead of focusing on 2 to 3 topics when they say you can choose more than one topic.\n\nThen if I’m feeling confident like I can do another topic- but usually I don’t do 3, I do 2. Then after that I will write out the topics that I have chosen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, alright so when you write out, is there anything that you have learnt from Ms O’s class that you try to apply?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0178960793498737, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I only built a bit of confidence, because some of the mistakes that I used to know I still continue it... Because I’m used to it already, so sometimes maybe for the Scribo I can only improve...\n\nI do improve but for some, like the way that I structure the sentence, sometimes I might forget how to improve it. I will still actually get some of my mistakes that I used to have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like what you’ve said, some grammar mistakes have become a habit so it’s very hard to change. Okay. With the 3 of you, Simon Serene and Samantha, this is my one last question, then you go to the main room while I have a one- to-one cozy chat with Samuel. Because I don’t want y’all to hear the questions all over again.\n\nCan y’all describe to me how you go about doing your essay nowadays? What is your habit now when let’s say I ask y’all to write an essay? How do y’all go about doing it? Maybe Simon you start off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think recalling from my recent WA2, usually for the essay I try to focus on 1 topic instead of focusing on 2 to 3 topics when they say you can choose more than one topic.\n\nThen if I’m feeling confident like I can do another topic- but usually I don’t do 3, I do 2. Then after that I will write out the topics that I have chosen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, alright so when you write out, is there anything that you have learnt from Ms O’s class that you try to apply?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First it’s like don’t repeat the same words over and over again, then use stronger words and try not to make long sentences, and instead try and break them up into smaller sentences."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay so shorter sentences. Do you have a habit of checking through your grammar after you’ve finished?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1309956437220818, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think recalling from my recent WA2, usually for the essay I try to focus on 1 topic instead of focusing on 2 to 3 topics when they say you can choose more than one topic.\n\nThen if I’m feeling confident like I can do another topic- but usually I don’t do 3, I do 2. Then after that I will write out the topics that I have chosen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, alright so when you write out, is there anything that you have learnt from Ms O’s class that you try to apply?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First it’s like don’t repeat the same words over and over again, then use stronger words and try not to make long sentences, and instead try and break them up into smaller sentences."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay so shorter sentences. Do you have a habit of checking through your grammar after you’ve finished?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do? Previous to using Scribo and all that did you used to do that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.2566618263578686, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First it’s like don’t repeat the same words over and over again, then use stronger words and try not to make long sentences, and instead try and break them up into smaller sentences."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah okay so shorter sentences. Do you have a habit of checking through your grammar after you’ve finished?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do? Previous to using Scribo and all that did you used to do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did as well, even previous? Ok so now you do check. Let’s hear from the ladies as well, so Serene what is your habit in writing of essays nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2851798070642984, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do? Previous to using Scribo and all that did you used to do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did as well, even previous? Ok so now you do check. Let’s hear from the ladies as well, so Serene what is your habit in writing of essays nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m not sure I haven’t really been writing essays. But habit is just...I just had the WA2 ? writing can I talk about that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah that will be great."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3168664522936649, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did as well, even previous? Ok so now you do check. Let’s hear from the ladies as well, so Serene what is your habit in writing of essays nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m not sure I haven’t really been writing essays. But habit is just...I just had the WA2 ? writing can I talk about that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah that will be great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For me I just...for that writing, because FA there’s no format, and this situational writing there’s not much format other than the...while writing it I just remember the main thing, the format, what to write. And then write the proposal and stuff.\n\nThen the rest I just construct it when I see the poster, the insert that they give. I just quickly plan and write it down, but mostly after I write finish I’ll just take a look at what I missed out. But when I check I don’t see my grammar mistakes or spelling mistakes.\n\nBecause most of the time I would say my words used are very simple and it is most likely impossible to get it wrong. But then I still got some wrong. But mostly I won’t be able to find my grammar mistake because I don’t see any of them, I don’t know how to check them also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Thank you Serene. How about Samantha? What’s your habit now when it comes to writing essays?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4346590566442591, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think my habit is for example, if there’s a structure or something, if teacher do some example, maybe I’ll try to remember the example...and if I need to write for compo, then maybe I’ll just write it in my compo. For example like a starting point."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you try and remember what you have seen and you try and duplicate that. Okay thank you so much. It’s been great chatting with y’all, what I will do is I’ll release the 3 of y’all, Samuel you stay because I need to hear from you. The other three of y’all can y’all go back to the main room please?\n\nBut before I do that, is there anything that you want to tell me that I didn’t ask you about? That you feel is very important that you want to tell me? If not, thank you so much Serene Samantha and Simon, you can go back to the main room.\n\nOkay Samuel, this is our one-to-one time. I will just ask you 3 main things, the first question you’ve already heard some of your friends talking about it, how has your approach to writing compositions changed compared to when before you came on the CDAC program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah my grammar is better, and I can use bigger words."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. Did your teacher notice the change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She did? How did she tell you that? Was it something she wrote or she showed you directly?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.48295450738251006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah my grammar is better, and I can use bigger words."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s great. Did your teacher notice the change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She did? How did she tell you that? Was it something she wrote or she showed you directly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She wrote on the paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you recall what she wrote specifically?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5366161193139001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She did? How did she tell you that? Was it something she wrote or she showed you directly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She wrote on the paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you recall what she wrote specifically?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really but she just say I improved a lot, like my vocabulary is better already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh congratulations that’s great! In fact earlier on one of the questions I asked the rest was also how do they feel in terms of confidence in writing compositions nowadays. Very more confident, or no change in confidence, or little change in confidence? What about you Samuel?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5962401325710001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She wrote on the paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you recall what she wrote specifically?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really but she just say I improved a lot, like my vocabulary is better already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh congratulations that’s great! In fact earlier on one of the questions I asked the rest was also how do they feel in terms of confidence in writing compositions nowadays. Very more confident, or no change in confidence, or little change in confidence? What about you Samuel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m more confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes you say that? Why do you say that you feel more confident?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6624890361900001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really but she just say I improved a lot, like my vocabulary is better already."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh congratulations that’s great! In fact earlier on one of the questions I asked the rest was also how do they feel in terms of confidence in writing compositions nowadays. Very more confident, or no change in confidence, or little change in confidence? What about you Samuel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m more confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes you say that? Why do you say that you feel more confident?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because now when I’m writing I can express myself better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you find that you are writing longer essays now?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7360989291000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m more confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes you say that? Why do you say that you feel more confident?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because now when I’m writing I can express myself better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you find that you are writing longer essays now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but it’s not as long as last time. Because now I wont put a lot of irrelevant information inside."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so now it’s not like vomiting, you are more careful of what you write. Do y’all have editing exercises as part of the test? There’s editing in the paragraph, and you find the errors and all that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.817887699, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because now when I’m writing I can express myself better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you find that you are writing longer essays now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but it’s not as long as last time. Because now I wont put a lot of irrelevant information inside."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so now it’s not like vomiting, you are more careful of what you write. Do y’all have editing exercises as part of the test? There’s editing in the paragraph, and you find the errors and all that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "WA2 don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "WA2 don’t have. But earlier in class you all would have that as homework?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.90876411, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but it’s not as long as last time. Because now I wont put a lot of irrelevant information inside."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so now it’s not like vomiting, you are more careful of what you write. Do y’all have editing exercises as part of the test? There’s editing in the paragraph, and you find the errors and all that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "WA2 don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "WA2 don’t have. But earlier in class you all would have that as homework?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have you been doing? Not so good? Okay?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0097379, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "WA2 don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "WA2 don’t have. But earlier in class you all would have that as homework?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have you been doing? Not so good? Okay?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually it’s 1 or 2 mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh that’s very good, 1 or 2 out of 5 or 10?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.121931, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have you been doing? Not so good? Okay?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually it’s 1 or 2 mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh that’s very good, 1 or 2 out of 5 or 10?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "10."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh wow 2 mistakes out of 10. Has that always been the case in Sec 2?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.24659, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Usually it’s 1 or 2 mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh that’s very good, 1 or 2 out of 5 or 10?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "10."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh wow 2 mistakes out of 10. Has that always been the case in Sec 2?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, Sec 2 I usually get 5 or 6 wrongs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that seems you’ve improved from 5 or 6 to 1 or 2. That’s great! So I’m just gonna ask you one last question which is what I asked your friends just now. If I were to ask you to write a composition now, what would be your habit? What would be the things that you do?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3851, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "10."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh wow 2 mistakes out of 10. Has that always been the case in Sec 2?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, Sec 2 I usually get 5 or 6 wrongs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that seems you’ve improved from 5 or 6 to 1 or 2. That’s great! So I’m just gonna ask you one last question which is what I asked your friends just now. If I were to ask you to write a composition now, what would be your habit? What would be the things that you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Write down the relevant information and put it in a simple way for people to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you go through to check for grammar?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.539, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, Sec 2 I usually get 5 or 6 wrongs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that seems you’ve improved from 5 or 6 to 1 or 2. That’s great! So I’m just gonna ask you one last question which is what I asked your friends just now. If I were to ask you to write a composition now, what would be your habit? What would be the things that you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Write down the relevant information and put it in a simple way for people to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you go through to check for grammar?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Sometimes when I got extra time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you check through do you find that you can detect the mistakes?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.71, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Write down the relevant information and put it in a simple way for people to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Do you go through to check for grammar?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Sometimes when I got extra time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you check through do you find that you can detect the mistakes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me one example? Recently? What was your WA2?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Sometimes when I got extra time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you check through do you find that you can detect the mistakes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me one example? Recently? What was your WA2?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Essay writing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So during that essay writing, WA2, did you remember anything of Ms O’s class that you tried to apply?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me one example? Recently? What was your WA2?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Essay writing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So during that essay writing, WA2, did you remember anything of Ms O’s class that you tried to apply?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "WA2 I never do. I didn’t do WA2."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, why didn’t you do WS2? Because you were not well or what?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Essay writing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So during that essay writing, WA2, did you remember anything of Ms O’s class that you tried to apply?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "WA2 I never do. I didn’t do WA2."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, why didn’t you do WS2? Because you were not well or what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I submitted it late, my Google Docs had problems then I didn’t submit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh so you didn’t submit. Let me just check through...okay I’ll just ask you one last question then...so do you feel that being on this Scribo program benefited you? How so?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "WA2 I never do. I didn’t do WA2."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, why didn’t you do WS2? Because you were not well or what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I submitted it late, my Google Docs had problems then I didn’t submit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh so you didn’t submit. Let me just check through...okay I’ll just ask you one last question then...so do you feel that being on this Scribo program benefited you? How so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I can detect grammar easier, and my vocabulary also became better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it easier to detect?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00002:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I submitted it late, my Google Docs had problems then I didn’t submit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh so you didn’t submit. Let me just check through...okay I’ll just ask you one last question then...so do you feel that being on this Scribo program benefited you? How so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I can detect grammar easier, and my vocabulary also became better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it easier to detect?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because last time I couldn’t see what’s wrong with my work,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now it’s because you can hit “check” and it’ll immediately tell you is it?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00008:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.54096792454961, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To a point, I think there are lots of similarities and there have been loads of learnings brought across from Australia and in terms of the way in which the mechanism can work in a streamlined way so that sites can be banked and credits can be sold to a number of small developers that aren't having quite small impacts and how you get quite big gains in that way. So, there are quite a few learnings. But there is also quite a lot about the context or baseline of where a country starts. So, if you have a country and I guess Australia is an example where you have a higher baseline of what is being expected of a developer, so regulations are a bit stricter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sorry, do you think that is because it is administered in the public sector as opposed to the private sector?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a mandatory way?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, to a degree, it is also about what the framework is already for preventing habitat loss and then you add this tool, this mechanism and this kind of... this way to properly assess the impact and to properly broker offsets then you find yes - it can be a kind of streamlined system. Here, where actually we are going from a system where impacts are largely ignored actually, to something that is quite a big step up. So, where your starting point it, I think that's what people struggle with - in comparing the differences between different countries. So that's the long answer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's very interesting. So, going onto the next question which you already delved into. Based on your experience, do you think offsetting should be mandatory?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00008:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7121865828329, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a mandatory way?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, to a degree, it is also about what the framework is already for preventing habitat loss and then you add this tool, this mechanism and this kind of... this way to properly assess the impact and to properly broker offsets then you find yes - it can be a kind of streamlined system. Here, where actually we are going from a system where impacts are largely ignored actually, to something that is quite a big step up. So, where your starting point it, I think that's what people struggle with - in comparing the differences between different countries. So that's the long answer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's very interesting. So, going onto the next question which you already delved into. Based on your experience, do you think offsetting should be mandatory?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I do, I come from that mandatory system in Victoria in Australia and I can see how it really means there is a level playing field, there is accreditation of assessors who are doing their calculations and there is accreditation for the brokers such as us. So, the standards are brought up because of that mandatory system. Developers welcome being treated the same across the country and welcome being treated the same as other developers are. We speak to a number of developers here who are very concerned by a system where they are made to pay more than they have before, but at the same time they really do welcome standards and they will budget for those additional costs if they upfront know what the rules are and they are treated equally. So, it also allows landowners that want to put forward offsets confidence that there is a market that is there to sell it - that there is going to be demand for their supply."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, do you think the uptake will be higher across the board?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00008:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.902429536481, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, to a degree, it is also about what the framework is already for preventing habitat loss and then you add this tool, this mechanism and this kind of... this way to properly assess the impact and to properly broker offsets then you find yes - it can be a kind of streamlined system. Here, where actually we are going from a system where impacts are largely ignored actually, to something that is quite a big step up. So, where your starting point it, I think that's what people struggle with - in comparing the differences between different countries. So that's the long answer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's very interesting. So, going onto the next question which you already delved into. Based on your experience, do you think offsetting should be mandatory?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I do, I come from that mandatory system in Victoria in Australia and I can see how it really means there is a level playing field, there is accreditation of assessors who are doing their calculations and there is accreditation for the brokers such as us. So, the standards are brought up because of that mandatory system. Developers welcome being treated the same across the country and welcome being treated the same as other developers are. We speak to a number of developers here who are very concerned by a system where they are made to pay more than they have before, but at the same time they really do welcome standards and they will budget for those additional costs if they upfront know what the rules are and they are treated equally. So, it also allows landowners that want to put forward offsets confidence that there is a market that is there to sell it - that there is going to be demand for their supply."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, do you think the uptake will be higher across the board?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, definitely, many many landowners are waiting to see what will happen with the system at government level before they really come forward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is there quite an interest from landowners leasing their land for offsets?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00008:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.3486784401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, definitely, many many landowners are waiting to see what will happen with the system at government level before they really come forward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is there quite an interest from landowners leasing their land for offsets?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean farmers..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are many many landowners that would do, would revert from farming or even just manage their non-productive areas far far better if they had the appropriate funding, the financial incentives. We have definitely got a large number of landowners that would be interested."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, the point on the landowners probably brings me quite well onto the next question on equity considerations, which is, if I could ask: When undertaking offsets do you think compensating affected communities is always necessary and practical? Perhaps in the context of access to nature between the development site and the offset site;."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00008:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38742048900000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean farmers..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are many many landowners that would do, would revert from farming or even just manage their non-productive areas far far better if they had the appropriate funding, the financial incentives. We have definitely got a large number of landowners that would be interested."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, the point on the landowners probably brings me quite well onto the next question on equity considerations, which is, if I could ask: When undertaking offsets do you think compensating affected communities is always necessary and practical? Perhaps in the context of access to nature between the development site and the offset site;."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it's a big issue in this country as well because you do have a lot of local communities with small areas remaining and nature nearby. So, certainly, it's important to make sure those local wildlife sites are really recognised in the planning system when impacts are being assessed. So, for example in our Essex pilot local wildlife sites are scored the highest, as high as priority habitats, even if they don't contain priority habitats because of that important. So, those sort of tweeks to the metric can be applied for local communities or at least local wildlife sites. We try to get local offsets for local losses. So, within local authority boundaries that is a requirement usually with the authority anyone and as close to the development as possible. So, even if, ideally adjacent, linked, but it could still be 10km away. We tend to be asked to find something within a radius from the development, so hopefully there is going to still be some access to that new site for local communities but you can never, obviously when you are removing something we are losing, we can't already get it right on site or adjacent within the same local community. I think if you asked how to compensate them - I don't know how financially how that would work and have not really come across that. There may be ways..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And having worked globally within the offsetting profession do you think social compensation within the context of biodiversity offsetting is something that is being considered?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00008:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the current metric it is a pretty simple metric currently. Have you had a look at it yet?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I have had a look at some of the parameters, but I am unclear which have been formalised."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess they are not really formalised - they were formalised somewhat for the pilots in that they were given to the pilot projects and we were told to apply this metric and test it and let us know how you get on. However, it is still based on a similar metric we have in Australia and internationally. It is the area times the habitat type times the condition. So, it is rather simple, which is useful. The improvements that are needed and the government is well aware from the pilot evaluation already - the background assessment information for condition in particular needs to be more robust so there is less guess work around some habitat types such are arable land which isn't even in the current kind of assessment at all. So, some of the rigor around how to assess habitats or their condition and adding potentially more categories can actually make it quicker or easier to apply because you actually... there is a bit less guesswork if you can put it into a more specific category. It doesn't incorporate any social aspects or ecosystem services or anything like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it should incorporate ecosystem services as ecosystem processes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think sometimes habitats is quite a good way to cover quite a few... If you are creating a new lowland meadow close by you would hopefully assume that it would have the same ecosystem resources available as the site that was lost and then you could actually start to look at whether that is happening or not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think measuring ecosystem function between the two sites is a bit too sophisticated."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 7.019305813009986, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am an enrolled midwife"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you train from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where I trained from?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mbarara, and by that time it was school of Midwifery and nursing but now it is a university"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So how long ago did you qualify?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.465895347788873, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where I trained from?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mbarara, and by that time it was school of Midwifery and nursing but now it is a university"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So how long ago did you qualify?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have worked for so many years; I started here in 1986, July"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and you have been here since then?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8509948308765254, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mbarara, and by that time it was school of Midwifery and nursing but now it is a university"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So how long ago did you qualify?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have worked for so many years; I started here in 1986, July"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and you have been here since then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was my first postage and it is where I have been working all this time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So doing your practice, what are the common illnesses that you have seen around here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.278883145418361, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have worked for so many years; I started here in 1986, July"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and you have been here since then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was my first postage and it is where I have been working all this time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So doing your practice, what are the common illnesses that you have seen around here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this unit we have the NCDs and those are non-communicable diseases, Diabetes mellitus, tonsillitis, hypertension, umm and also other diseases associated with those problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you look at the demographics of the patients, which are the common? By demographics I talk about age, sex. So the common patients you get lie in which age group?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.532092383798179, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was my first postage and it is where I have been working all this time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So doing your practice, what are the common illnesses that you have seen around here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this unit we have the NCDs and those are non-communicable diseases, Diabetes mellitus, tonsillitis, hypertension, umm and also other diseases associated with those problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you look at the demographics of the patients, which are the common? By demographics I talk about age, sex. So the common patients you get lie in which age group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now, we have also like in the DM, we also have young kids but at Wakiso they have a clinic for DM for young ones so we always send them there but here we have from ages up to 70 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, how about heart disease; is it a seen in many patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5912137597757545, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this unit we have the NCDs and those are non-communicable diseases, Diabetes mellitus, tonsillitis, hypertension, umm and also other diseases associated with those problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you look at the demographics of the patients, which are the common? By demographics I talk about age, sex. So the common patients you get lie in which age group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now, we have also like in the DM, we also have young kids but at Wakiso they have a clinic for DM for young ones so we always send them there but here we have from ages up to 70 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, how about heart disease; is it a seen in many patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At times, because here in our setting like tomorrow in the HT clinic, we always have a doctor here who always assesses them and they give her their complaints and then she prescribes accordingly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the clinic is always on Tuesday!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6569041775286161, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now, we have also like in the DM, we also have young kids but at Wakiso they have a clinic for DM for young ones so we always send them there but here we have from ages up to 70 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, how about heart disease; is it a seen in many patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At times, because here in our setting like tomorrow in the HT clinic, we always have a doctor here who always assesses them and they give her their complaints and then she prescribes accordingly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the clinic is always on Tuesday!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, on Tuesday, the one for hypertension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you participate in that clinic?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7298935305873512, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At times, because here in our setting like tomorrow in the HT clinic, we always have a doctor here who always assesses them and they give her their complaints and then she prescribes accordingly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the clinic is always on Tuesday!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, on Tuesday, the one for hypertension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you participate in that clinic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we do participate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, tell me a little bit about your training in Rheumatic Heart Disease; have you ever received any specific training at school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8109928117637235, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, on Tuesday, the one for hypertension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you participate in that clinic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we do participate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, tell me a little bit about your training in Rheumatic Heart Disease; have you ever received any specific training at school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, I do recall. Anyway I think we passed through it but not in details."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but you have not had any training?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.901103124181915, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we do participate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, tell me a little bit about your training in Rheumatic Heart Disease; have you ever received any specific training at school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, I do recall. Anyway I think we passed through it but not in details."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but you have not had any training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about after training; have you had any training, any workshop where they talk about RHD"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.001225693535461, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, I do recall. Anyway I think we passed through it but not in details."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but you have not had any training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about after training; have you had any training, any workshop where they talk about RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "umm we have gone for workshops but not majorly in this rheumatic whatever, but in other cases"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have never had any training in RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.112472992817179, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about after training; have you had any training, any workshop where they talk about RHD"}, {"role": "user", "content": "umm we have gone for workshops but not majorly in this rheumatic whatever, but in other cases"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have never had any training in RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So since you started practicing, or you have been here for a while, have you encountered any RHD patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.373423447922443, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So since you started practicing, or you have been here for a while, have you encountered any RHD patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think in the HT clinic we have some like four because at times doctors always send them for whatever ... I have forgotten the name. They send them for checking their hearts although I have forgotten the term they use, then they come back for results and those ones are already on treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they always send them there in they bring back the results since they are already on treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you see them!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5260260532471588, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think in the HT clinic we have some like four because at times doctors always send them for whatever ... I have forgotten the name. They send them for checking their hearts although I have forgotten the term they use, then they come back for results and those ones are already on treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they always send them there in they bring back the results since they are already on treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you see them!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I see them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When do you remember last seeing the last patient? In a week you see like how many?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6955845036079542, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they always send them there in they bring back the results since they are already on treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you see them!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I see them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When do you remember last seeing the last patient? In a week you see like how many?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At times we can have none in a week and at times we can get, like tomorrow on a clinic day, there can be like two or three, but not always like on a daily basis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in a month you can see how many?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8839827817866157, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I see them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When do you remember last seeing the last patient? In a week you see like how many?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At times we can have none in a week and at times we can get, like tomorrow on a clinic day, there can be like two or three, but not always like on a daily basis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in a month you can see how many?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a month they can be either 5 or 6 around there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, are they mainly inpatient or outpatient?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0933142019851285, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At times we can have none in a week and at times we can get, like tomorrow on a clinic day, there can be like two or three, but not always like on a daily basis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in a month you can see how many?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a month they can be either 5 or 6 around there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, are they mainly inpatient or outpatient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends on somebody’s condition; if he is very ill we always admit. If she can go back home, they prescribe for her and she goes and buys the drugs and they keep at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now I am interested in what you have been taught about RHD; what is your understanding of the causes of Rheumatic Heart Disease? What do you think causes that disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.325904668872365, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a month they can be either 5 or 6 around there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, are they mainly inpatient or outpatient?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends on somebody’s condition; if he is very ill we always admit. If she can go back home, they prescribe for her and she goes and buys the drugs and they keep at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now I am interested in what you have been taught about RHD; what is your understanding of the causes of Rheumatic Heart Disease? What do you think causes that disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Causes, do I know the causes? [Laughs] I am not sure of them but maybe like someone with mainly high blood pressure and they put her on treatment but she doesn't respond well to the treatment, I think maybe people like that one may have that problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know any link between sore throat and RHD? Are those two associated in any way?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.584338520969294, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends on somebody’s condition; if he is very ill we always admit. If she can go back home, they prescribe for her and she goes and buys the drugs and they keep at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now I am interested in what you have been taught about RHD; what is your understanding of the causes of Rheumatic Heart Disease? What do you think causes that disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Causes, do I know the causes? [Laughs] I am not sure of them but maybe like someone with mainly high blood pressure and they put her on treatment but she doesn't respond well to the treatment, I think maybe people like that one may have that problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know any link between sore throat and RHD? Are those two associated in any way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they may be related but I am not very sure whether they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are not sure if they are related!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.871487245521438, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Causes, do I know the causes? [Laughs] I am not sure of them but maybe like someone with mainly high blood pressure and they put her on treatment but she doesn't respond well to the treatment, I think maybe people like that one may have that problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know any link between sore throat and RHD? Are those two associated in any way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they may be related but I am not very sure whether they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are not sure if they are related!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what were you thought that could be done to prevent Rheumatic Heart Disease during school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.190541383912709, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they may be related but I am not very sure whether they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are not sure if they are related!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what were you thought that could be done to prevent Rheumatic Heart Disease during school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] let me see if I remember. But any way I think people should go for checkups to know their status, they check their blood pressure, you have to do exercises and diet also matters. Umm those ones who always have worries, okay that one you can’t miss to be there but I think people should not be worried every time because it hikes the blood pressure which may bring problems for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were you told about how to treat a patient with Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.545045982125232, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so what were you thought that could be done to prevent Rheumatic Heart Disease during school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] let me see if I remember. But any way I think people should go for checkups to know their status, they check their blood pressure, you have to do exercises and diet also matters. Umm those ones who always have worries, okay that one you can’t miss to be there but I think people should not be worried every time because it hikes the blood pressure which may bring problems for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were you told about how to treat a patient with Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This being a big hospital, we always get patients that have been already seen, like we have a physician here and if the case is for him they are always sent there and a doctor prescribes for them. Then for us we just give the treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What treatment do you usually give these patients who have Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.827828869028035, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[laughs] let me see if I remember. But any way I think people should go for checkups to know their status, they check their blood pressure, you have to do exercises and diet also matters. Umm those ones who always have worries, okay that one you can’t miss to be there but I think people should not be worried every time because it hikes the blood pressure which may bring problems for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were you told about how to treat a patient with Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This being a big hospital, we always get patients that have been already seen, like we have a physician here and if the case is for him they are always sent there and a doctor prescribes for them. Then for us we just give the treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What treatment do you usually give these patients who have Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, it depends; we just give according to the prescription but I think most of their drugs, like maybe Trovas and what. Some of them we don’t have them at the hospital. They are sent to go and buy them. But if they are prescribed what we have, we always give them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, is there any that you have that you know treats this disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.142032076697817, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This being a big hospital, we always get patients that have been already seen, like we have a physician here and if the case is for him they are always sent there and a doctor prescribes for them. Then for us we just give the treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What treatment do you usually give these patients who have Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, it depends; we just give according to the prescription but I think most of their drugs, like maybe Trovas and what. Some of them we don’t have them at the hospital. They are sent to go and buy them. But if they are prescribed what we have, we always give them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, is there any that you have that you know treats this disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No because it is always a combination of the hypertension drugs and the other. So for us we just give what we have and we tell them to go and buy what we don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you stock Benzathine?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.491146751886463, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, it depends; we just give according to the prescription but I think most of their drugs, like maybe Trovas and what. Some of them we don’t have them at the hospital. They are sent to go and buy them. But if they are prescribed what we have, we always give them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, is there any that you have that you know treats this disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No because it is always a combination of the hypertension drugs and the other. So for us we just give what we have and we tell them to go and buy what we don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you stock Benzathine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Benzathine injection? Yeah; in our outpatient we have but here we don’t"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Warfarin?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7679408354294033, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No because it is always a combination of the hypertension drugs and the other. So for us we just give what we have and we tell them to go and buy what we don’t have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you stock Benzathine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Benzathine injection? Yeah; in our outpatient we have but here we don’t"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Warfarin?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I don’t know whether we have it because for us we always order what we supply to our patients. So some of the drugs are being supplied through the pharmacy at the OPD"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you don’t have those drugs!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0754898171437812, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Benzathine injection? Yeah; in our outpatient we have but here we don’t"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Warfarin?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I don’t know whether we have it because for us we always order what we supply to our patients. So some of the drugs are being supplied through the pharmacy at the OPD"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you don’t have those drugs!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then, are there any aspects of Rheumatic Heart Disease management which you think you need more training in?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.417210907937535, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I don’t know whether we have it because for us we always order what we supply to our patients. So some of the drugs are being supplied through the pharmacy at the OPD"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you don’t have those drugs!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then, are there any aspects of Rheumatic Heart Disease management which you think you need more training in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah; if there is a chance of being trained, we want to be trained"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which areas would you want to be trained in managing Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.796901008819483, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then, are there any aspects of Rheumatic Heart Disease management which you think you need more training in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah; if there is a chance of being trained, we want to be trained"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which areas would you want to be trained in managing Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, management throughout the management, the drugs, the dose and how to talk to these patients to give them advice accordingly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your understanding about the long-term prognosis of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.218778898688314, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah; if there is a chance of being trained, we want to be trained"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which areas would you want to be trained in managing Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, management throughout the management, the drugs, the dose and how to talk to these patients to give them advice accordingly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your understanding about the long-term prognosis of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What I understand is that if someone has that problem for so long, either she is not getting the drugs properly or taking them properly and the thing just continues to be there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, tell me about your encounters with these patients who have Rheumatic Heart Disease. Do you remember the last one you saw?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.687532109653683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, management throughout the management, the drugs, the dose and how to talk to these patients to give them advice accordingly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is your understanding about the long-term prognosis of Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What I understand is that if someone has that problem for so long, either she is not getting the drugs properly or taking them properly and the thing just continues to be there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, tell me about your encounters with these patients who have Rheumatic Heart Disease. Do you remember the last one you saw?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, usually when they are given the prescription to go and buy the drugs, they always complain that they have no money. Others may say, \"I am a lone; I have no one of my kids because they all died.\" They always have complaints."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And umm, the last one you saw, was it a female or a male? How old was the last patient you saw?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.208369010726314, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What I understand is that if someone has that problem for so long, either she is not getting the drugs properly or taking them properly and the thing just continues to be there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, tell me about your encounters with these patients who have Rheumatic Heart Disease. Do you remember the last one you saw?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, usually when they are given the prescription to go and buy the drugs, they always complain that they have no money. Others may say, \"I am a lone; I have no one of my kids because they all died.\" They always have complaints."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And umm, the last one you saw, was it a female or a male? How old was the last patient you saw?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, the last one was a lady"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old was she?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.675965567473682, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, usually when they are given the prescription to go and buy the drugs, they always complain that they have no money. Others may say, \"I am a lone; I have no one of my kids because they all died.\" They always have complaints."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And umm, the last one you saw, was it a female or a male? How old was the last patient you saw?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, the last one was a lady"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old was she?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was between 60 and 70"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did she complain of? What symptoms did she describe when she came here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.19551729719298, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, the last one was a lady"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old was she?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was between 60 and 70"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did she complain of? What symptoms did she describe when she came here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So some have different matters: others are weak and they complain of having sleepless nights at times, no appetite, and palpitations"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when you look at these patients do you think they know of an association between RHD and sore throat?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.772796996881089, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was between 60 and 70"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did she complain of? What symptoms did she describe when she came here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So some have different matters: others are weak and they complain of having sleepless nights at times, no appetite, and palpitations"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when you look at these patients do you think they know of an association between RHD and sore throat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t know!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.414218885423432, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So some have different matters: others are weak and they complain of having sleepless nights at times, no appetite, and palpitations"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "when you look at these patients do you think they know of an association between RHD and sore throat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t know!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, when you give them the drugs and treatment do you think they adhere to the treatment? Do they come back for follow up?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.1269098726927025, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t know!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, when you give them the drugs and treatment do you think they adhere to the treatment? Do they come back for follow up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they always come back because we always give them a return date."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what motivates them to come back?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.918788747436336, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then, when you give them the drugs and treatment do you think they adhere to the treatment? Do they come back for follow up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they always come back because we always give them a return date."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what motivates them to come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They care about their life:they do care. When you tell them to come back on such a day they always come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have some who miss?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 8.798654163818151, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they always come back because we always give them a return date."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what motivates them to come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They care about their life:they do care. When you tell them to come back on such a day they always come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have some who miss?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not usually. Maybe someone can miss if she is weak and don’t have any one to bring her. That’s when one misses."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the distance they travel; where do they come from normally?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.220726848686835, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They care about their life:they do care. When you tell them to come back on such a day they always come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have some who miss?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not usually. Maybe someone can miss if she is weak and don’t have any one to bring her. That’s when one misses."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the distance they travel; where do they come from normally?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Within Entebbe, others may come like from Kajjansi, Ndejje around there. Even some can come from Kampala, because we have cases which changed from Mulago and started to come here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Although they stay in Kampala?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.689696498540927, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not usually. Maybe someone can miss if she is weak and don’t have any one to bring her. That’s when one misses."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the distance they travel; where do they come from normally?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Within Entebbe, others may come like from Kajjansi, Ndejje around there. Even some can come from Kampala, because we have cases which changed from Mulago and started to come here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Although they stay in Kampala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.210773887267697, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Within Entebbe, others may come like from Kajjansi, Ndejje around there. Even some can come from Kampala, because we have cases which changed from Mulago and started to come here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Although they stay in Kampala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe they are comfortable coming here because at times they were saying the numbers in Mulago are overwhelming so they decided to come to Entebbe or they don't stay long like in Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, you know for Rheumatic Heart Disease, patients have to come monthly to get their treatment. So for those who don't come why do you think they miss coming for their doses? Why do you think some people stay in the community?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.789748763630774, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe they are comfortable coming here because at times they were saying the numbers in Mulago are overwhelming so they decided to come to Entebbe or they don't stay long like in Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, you know for Rheumatic Heart Disease, patients have to come monthly to get their treatment. So for those who don't come why do you think they miss coming for their doses? Why do you think some people stay in the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some may get tired, others may have someone to buy the same drugs if they have the prescription. They may tell someone, \"you go to the drug shop and buy those drugs\" and they continue taking."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other reason why some people choose not to come?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.433054181811971, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe they are comfortable coming here because at times they were saying the numbers in Mulago are overwhelming so they decided to come to Entebbe or they don't stay long like in Mulago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, you know for Rheumatic Heart Disease, patients have to come monthly to get their treatment. So for those who don't come why do you think they miss coming for their doses? Why do you think some people stay in the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some may get tired, others may have someone to buy the same drugs if they have the prescription. They may tell someone, \"you go to the drug shop and buy those drugs\" and they continue taking."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other reason why some people choose not to come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others its poverty; transport can fail them, others maybe be very weak and they can't come alone and there’s no one to help bring them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, for those few who you said do not come on time, which other reasons do they say for missing doses?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.1478379797910785, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some may get tired, others may have someone to buy the same drugs if they have the prescription. They may tell someone, \"you go to the drug shop and buy those drugs\" and they continue taking."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other reason why some people choose not to come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others its poverty; transport can fail them, others maybe be very weak and they can't come alone and there’s no one to help bring them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, for those few who you said do not come on time, which other reasons do they say for missing doses?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some are just reluctant; someone may have no reason and they say \"doctor I didn’t come, I couldn't.\" So like that, when there’s no major problem. At times when they feel okay they just relax but there are others who are very active, when you tell them to come on such a day, they do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do some people come when they are very sick?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.830931088656754, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others its poverty; transport can fail them, others maybe be very weak and they can't come alone and there’s no one to help bring them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, for those few who you said do not come on time, which other reasons do they say for missing doses?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some are just reluctant; someone may have no reason and they say \"doctor I didn’t come, I couldn't.\" So like that, when there’s no major problem. At times when they feel okay they just relax but there are others who are very active, when you tell them to come on such a day, they do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do some people come when they are very sick?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one at times when the drugs are finished they stay without taking them so someone can spend like a month without taking the drug and when they feel very sick, they are like \"let me go back to the hospital, I am going to die from here.\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and then, what sort of barriers do you face when providing services to these patients like those who come with Rheumatic Heart Disease or even other conditions?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.5899234318408375, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some are just reluctant; someone may have no reason and they say \"doctor I didn’t come, I couldn't.\" So like that, when there’s no major problem. At times when they feel okay they just relax but there are others who are very active, when you tell them to come on such a day, they do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do some people come when they are very sick?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one at times when the drugs are finished they stay without taking them so someone can spend like a month without taking the drug and when they feel very sick, they are like \"let me go back to the hospital, I am going to die from here.\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and then, what sort of barriers do you face when providing services to these patients like those who come with Rheumatic Heart Disease or even other conditions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others are too poor; they may come when we have stock outs so you tell them we have prescribed a list of drugs then they say, “doctor!! I won’t be able to buy it because I do not have any money. Even the transport to get here someone just helped me with it!”. Such things; poverty, no transport, no care takers. It being a chronic disease, others are just neglected by those who can buy them drugs. They say “hold on there’s no money, I will buy when I get money.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then let’s look at the local health system barriers on the side of the providers. I am going to be mentioning some of the things and tell me if they are working for you or not and tell me why. Let’s look at the administration here; is working for you? Is it helping you do your work well?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.211026035378708, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one at times when the drugs are finished they stay without taking them so someone can spend like a month without taking the drug and when they feel very sick, they are like \"let me go back to the hospital, I am going to die from here.\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and then, what sort of barriers do you face when providing services to these patients like those who come with Rheumatic Heart Disease or even other conditions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others are too poor; they may come when we have stock outs so you tell them we have prescribed a list of drugs then they say, “doctor!! I won’t be able to buy it because I do not have any money. Even the transport to get here someone just helped me with it!”. Such things; poverty, no transport, no care takers. It being a chronic disease, others are just neglected by those who can buy them drugs. They say “hold on there’s no money, I will buy when I get money.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then let’s look at the local health system barriers on the side of the providers. I am going to be mentioning some of the things and tell me if they are working for you or not and tell me why. Let’s look at the administration here; is working for you? Is it helping you do your work well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would have but at times the stocks in this hospital is always not enough because they may think the drugs they are supplying will take us for three months but within one month the drugs are out of stock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is hindering those people who ask for the drugs to have do better projection so that they ask for enough drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 6.901140039309676, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Others are too poor; they may come when we have stock outs so you tell them we have prescribed a list of drugs then they say, “doctor!! I won’t be able to buy it because I do not have any money. Even the transport to get here someone just helped me with it!”. Such things; poverty, no transport, no care takers. It being a chronic disease, others are just neglected by those who can buy them drugs. They say “hold on there’s no money, I will buy when I get money.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then let’s look at the local health system barriers on the side of the providers. I am going to be mentioning some of the things and tell me if they are working for you or not and tell me why. Let’s look at the administration here; is working for you? Is it helping you do your work well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would have but at times the stocks in this hospital is always not enough because they may think the drugs they are supplying will take us for three months but within one month the drugs are out of stock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is hindering those people who ask for the drugs to have do better projection so that they ask for enough drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They always limit them, like they can say we want this and this but they go on cutting the budget, and the money they are supposed to use to order for things is not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then what else is not working for you with the administration or what is working for you in administration?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.223488932566307, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would have but at times the stocks in this hospital is always not enough because they may think the drugs they are supplying will take us for three months but within one month the drugs are out of stock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is hindering those people who ask for the drugs to have do better projection so that they ask for enough drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They always limit them, like they can say we want this and this but they go on cutting the budget, and the money they are supposed to use to order for things is not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then what else is not working for you with the administration or what is working for you in administration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, any way it’s always the stock outs but we used to have some people, like MRC guys who used to give us some drugs which was doing good for us because at that time apart from insulin from the DM patients, we used to have the tablets for hypertension, the DM drugs were always in plenty but these days they withdrew. They had come in for five years and now that they are over, like now the insulin is out of stock and we don’t have any, so the people coming on Wednesday will cry from here. First of all insulin is very expensive, some can afford and some can’t afford to buy. Even the tablets, like now they brought only 30,000. So already we are... it’s not even a month but the drugs are already finished. So such problems are there, mainly stock outs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about leadership in the district; is it working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 3.5816543695181187, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They always limit them, like they can say we want this and this but they go on cutting the budget, and the money they are supposed to use to order for things is not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then what else is not working for you with the administration or what is working for you in administration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, any way it’s always the stock outs but we used to have some people, like MRC guys who used to give us some drugs which was doing good for us because at that time apart from insulin from the DM patients, we used to have the tablets for hypertension, the DM drugs were always in plenty but these days they withdrew. They had come in for five years and now that they are over, like now the insulin is out of stock and we don’t have any, so the people coming on Wednesday will cry from here. First of all insulin is very expensive, some can afford and some can’t afford to buy. Even the tablets, like now they brought only 30,000. So already we are... it’s not even a month but the drugs are already finished. So such problems are there, mainly stock outs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about leadership in the district; is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Huh, that one [Laughs] ... I don’t know but for us if things are there, we always order and we give our patients and they become happy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the funding for health care in general?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6462826327979095, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm, any way it’s always the stock outs but we used to have some people, like MRC guys who used to give us some drugs which was doing good for us because at that time apart from insulin from the DM patients, we used to have the tablets for hypertension, the DM drugs were always in plenty but these days they withdrew. They had come in for five years and now that they are over, like now the insulin is out of stock and we don’t have any, so the people coming on Wednesday will cry from here. First of all insulin is very expensive, some can afford and some can’t afford to buy. Even the tablets, like now they brought only 30,000. So already we are... it’s not even a month but the drugs are already finished. So such problems are there, mainly stock outs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about leadership in the district; is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Huh, that one [Laughs] ... I don’t know but for us if things are there, we always order and we give our patients and they become happy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the funding for health care in general?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But the funding I think they are limited so much, they don’t give them enough. They should add on because the patients are increasing every day. Like here in our clinic, we always get new cases every Wednesday, those of DM on Wednesday and those of blood pressure every Tuesday."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about funding for Rheumatic Heart Disease in particular. How do you see it here in the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7180918142198994, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Huh, that one [Laughs] ... I don’t know but for us if things are there, we always order and we give our patients and they become happy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the funding for health care in general?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But the funding I think they are limited so much, they don’t give them enough. They should add on because the patients are increasing every day. Like here in our clinic, we always get new cases every Wednesday, those of DM on Wednesday and those of blood pressure every Tuesday."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about funding for Rheumatic Heart Disease in particular. How do you see it here in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I really don’t know maybe you can get a better from pharmacist who always orders for drugs. I think he knows the better answer for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, if you look at the health care worker numbers and qualifications, how are they? Let’s start with numbers; are they working for you? The staff numbers!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.797879793577666, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But the funding I think they are limited so much, they don’t give them enough. They should add on because the patients are increasing every day. Like here in our clinic, we always get new cases every Wednesday, those of DM on Wednesday and those of blood pressure every Tuesday."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about funding for Rheumatic Heart Disease in particular. How do you see it here in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I really don’t know maybe you can get a better from pharmacist who always orders for drugs. I think he knows the better answer for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, if you look at the health care worker numbers and qualifications, how are they? Let’s start with numbers; are they working for you? The staff numbers!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The staff numbers, when we are so busy we get some assistance from other staffs but the hospital is going to be lifted to a referral status, so we are expecting to be given more nurses and other professionals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the qualifications of health workers here, is it working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8865331039751845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I really don’t know maybe you can get a better from pharmacist who always orders for drugs. I think he knows the better answer for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, if you look at the health care worker numbers and qualifications, how are they? Let’s start with numbers; are they working for you? The staff numbers!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The staff numbers, when we are so busy we get some assistance from other staffs but the hospital is going to be lifted to a referral status, so we are expecting to be given more nurses and other professionals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the qualifications of health workers here, is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The qualifications, I think it’s good because most people have gone back to school so they have added on books."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Waiting time for patients; how is it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9850367821946494, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The staff numbers, when we are so busy we get some assistance from other staffs but the hospital is going to be lifted to a referral status, so we are expecting to be given more nurses and other professionals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the qualifications of health workers here, is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The qualifications, I think it’s good because most people have gone back to school so they have added on books."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Waiting time for patients; how is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are trying to limit it because like here now when we have very many patients, we try to give them numbers so they don’t complain “I came first, or you are passing me.” So we give them numbers and we are in different whatever, so someone may be taking the blood pressure, others weighing, recording the NCD books, clinical officers prescribing, others dispense and record in the books. The way we follow the orders, they don’t over stay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the quality of care you give them; how do you look at it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0944853135496104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The qualifications, I think it’s good because most people have gone back to school so they have added on books."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Waiting time for patients; how is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are trying to limit it because like here now when we have very many patients, we try to give them numbers so they don’t complain “I came first, or you are passing me.” So we give them numbers and we are in different whatever, so someone may be taking the blood pressure, others weighing, recording the NCD books, clinical officers prescribing, others dispense and record in the books. The way we follow the orders, they don’t over stay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the quality of care you give them; how do you look at it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always give them health talks and we always tell them to ask questions where they don’t understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the medicine you have talked about, tell me about the heart failure drugs. Do you have them in stock here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2160947928329005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are trying to limit it because like here now when we have very many patients, we try to give them numbers so they don’t complain “I came first, or you are passing me.” So we give them numbers and we are in different whatever, so someone may be taking the blood pressure, others weighing, recording the NCD books, clinical officers prescribing, others dispense and record in the books. The way we follow the orders, they don’t over stay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the quality of care you give them; how do you look at it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always give them health talks and we always tell them to ask questions where they don’t understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the medicine you have talked about, tell me about the heart failure drugs. Do you have them in stock here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At times we have, there are some promoters who always come and supply us some. They have done a lot because they give us some and we give to them (patients). At times we give a full dose and at times we give some and tell them “if these ones get done make sure you buy and finish the dose”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the anti-coagulation drugs; do you have them here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5013515960900004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At times we have, there are some promoters who always come and supply us some. They have done a lot because they give us some and we give to them (patients). At times we give a full dose and at times we give some and tell them “if these ones get done make sure you buy and finish the dose”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the anti-coagulation drugs; do you have them here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They might be there in the pharmacy or the stores because other drugs we can’t know because we don’t know much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about BPG, do you have it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6681684401000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they are there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They might be there in the pharmacy or the stores because other drugs we can’t know because we don’t know much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about BPG, do you have it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What is that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about diagnostics like echo-cardiography?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8535204890000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They might be there in the pharmacy or the stores because other drugs we can’t know because we don’t know much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about BPG, do you have it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What is that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about diagnostics like echo-cardiography?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I am not very sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the heart patients here, do they get examined?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.05946721, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What is that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about diagnostics like echo-cardiography?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I am not very sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the heart patients here, do they get examined?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The doctors examine and then at times they refer them to physicians to be checked. At times they are given whatever to go and check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then when you look at the health information system or the medical record system you have here, is it working for you? The way you keep records, the way information flows from in-patient to out-patient, or in case you need information from another department is it easy to access that information and does it flow ..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2882969, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That one I am not very sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the heart patients here, do they get examined?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The doctors examine and then at times they refer them to physicians to be checked. At times they are given whatever to go and check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then when you look at the health information system or the medical record system you have here, is it working for you? The way you keep records, the way information flows from in-patient to out-patient, or in case you need information from another department is it easy to access that information and does it flow ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that one is easy although now we are starting a system of using computers in every unit, so we are starting that system here. We are not yet used to it and the computers are not enough but every unit is being given a computer. I think it will be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then do you have registers for different diseases like for Acute Rheumatic fever, and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The doctors examine and then at times they refer them to physicians to be checked. At times they are given whatever to go and check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then when you look at the health information system or the medical record system you have here, is it working for you? The way you keep records, the way information flows from in-patient to out-patient, or in case you need information from another department is it easy to access that information and does it flow ..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that one is easy although now we are starting a system of using computers in every unit, so we are starting that system here. We are not yet used to it and the computers are not enough but every unit is being given a computer. I think it will be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then do you have registers for different diseases like for Acute Rheumatic fever, and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have one for NCD and the general one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you have guidelines and protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease care here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that one is easy although now we are starting a system of using computers in every unit, so we are starting that system here. We are not yet used to it and the computers are not enough but every unit is being given a computer. I think it will be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and then do you have registers for different diseases like for Acute Rheumatic fever, and Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have one for NCD and the general one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you have guidelines and protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease care here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm these promoters used to give us some but as we are having 5As, those that are not laminated are not supposed to put on the wall to stick, but we have some."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For which diseases?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have one for NCD and the general one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you have guidelines and protocols for Rheumatic Heart Disease care here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm these promoters used to give us some but as we are having 5As, those that are not laminated are not supposed to put on the wall to stick, but we have some."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For which diseases?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like that one for DM."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about for Rheumatic Heart Disease; do you have any?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm these promoters used to give us some but as we are having 5As, those that are not laminated are not supposed to put on the wall to stick, but we have some."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For which diseases?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like that one for DM."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about for Rheumatic Heart Disease; do you have any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was a time they gave us some but we had nowhere to hang them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who gave you those ones?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like that one for DM."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about for Rheumatic Heart Disease; do you have any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was a time they gave us some but we had nowhere to hang them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who gave you those ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those promoters they come and distribute their drugs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But have you seen any guidelines on how to manage Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was a time they gave us some but we had nowhere to hang them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who gave you those ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those promoters they come and distribute their drugs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But have you seen any guidelines on how to manage Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think others but not our unit. I think in the ward, those people who admit patients might have some but for us here we don’t have because for us we don't admit; we just work on them and they go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand, so for these things I have mentioned what has worked for you? Administration, funding, health care workers, drugs, information flow and guidelines, what is working for you here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those promoters they come and distribute their drugs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But have you seen any guidelines on how to manage Rheumatic Heart Disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think others but not our unit. I think in the ward, those people who admit patients might have some but for us here we don’t have because for us we don't admit; we just work on them and they go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand, so for these things I have mentioned what has worked for you? Administration, funding, health care workers, drugs, information flow and guidelines, what is working for you here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I think a combination of all; it is good if it is in the system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But currently is it working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think others but not our unit. I think in the ward, those people who admit patients might have some but for us here we don’t have because for us we don't admit; we just work on them and they go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand, so for these things I have mentioned what has worked for you? Administration, funding, health care workers, drugs, information flow and guidelines, what is working for you here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I think a combination of all; it is good if it is in the system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But currently is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some loopholes somewhere. It is not 100%, but they are try."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where do you want them to put more effort?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I think a combination of all; it is good if it is in the system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But currently is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some loopholes somewhere. It is not 100%, but they are try."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where do you want them to put more effort?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the stock outs; if the drugs are there and the patient comes and you give him everything, it will be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what makes you to keep working despite those short comings?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some loopholes somewhere. It is not 100%, but they are try."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where do you want them to put more effort?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the stock outs; if the drugs are there and the patient comes and you give him everything, it will be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what makes you to keep working despite those short comings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is positive attitude, and then the umm, and good working relationship and team work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let’s look at your perception of patient outcomes; generally do you think patients get the care they need here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the stock outs; if the drugs are there and the patient comes and you give him everything, it will be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what makes you to keep working despite those short comings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is positive attitude, and then the umm, and good working relationship and team work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let’s look at your perception of patient outcomes; generally do you think patients get the care they need here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they always appreciate and at times they bring us some things and be like, “doctors, thanks for treating us. You are so caring.” They appreciate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, do you have any patient safety or quality of care concerns here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is positive attitude, and then the umm, and good working relationship and team work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now let’s look at your perception of patient outcomes; generally do you think patients get the care they need here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they always appreciate and at times they bring us some things and be like, “doctors, thanks for treating us. You are so caring.” They appreciate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, do you have any patient safety or quality of care concerns here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm ... no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have any!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they always appreciate and at times they bring us some things and be like, “doctors, thanks for treating us. You are so caring.” They appreciate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, do you have any patient safety or quality of care concerns here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm ... no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have any!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have any except that they are too forgetful; at times they forget their things here and we give them back but stealing here in our place, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about when you are providing them with services, do you feel like people do whatever it takes to make sure they are given services in a hygienic and safest way?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Umm ... no"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t have any!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have any except that they are too forgetful; at times they forget their things here and we give them back but stealing here in our place, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about when you are providing them with services, do you feel like people do whatever it takes to make sure they are given services in a hygienic and safest way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, for us here I am sure the cleanliness is okay. We don't have any issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so if you look at the quality of care for your patients here, how is it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, for us here I am sure the cleanliness is okay. We don't have any issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so if you look at the quality of care for your patients here, how is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The quality, it is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because first of all we are clean and we always work in a clean environment, we do the needful. We have drug envelops where we always pack for them; we have no problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you seen any preventable deaths here occurring here? A death which wouldn’t have occurred but it occurred."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The quality, it is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because first of all we are clean and we always work in a clean environment, we do the needful. We have drug envelops where we always pack for them; we have no problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you seen any preventable deaths here occurring here? A death which wouldn’t have occurred but it occurred."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, maybe on the wards when they are admitted but here we have never had such."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, maybe on the wards when they are admitted but here we have never had such."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think patients are dying in the community without presenting to the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there are there who are dying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them have that thinking that they are being bewitched and they just use local herbs assuming they have been bewitched, so they can die from there. Others are too poor; transport is a problem or someone to escorts them is at times the problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then in your opinion what are the two main things Ministry of health can do to improve outcomes in our hospitals?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00030:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there are there who are dying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them have that thinking that they are being bewitched and they just use local herbs assuming they have been bewitched, so they can die from there. Others are too poor; transport is a problem or someone to escorts them is at times the problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then in your opinion what are the two main things Ministry of health can do to improve outcomes in our hospitals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they should do outreaches deep in the villages and just talk to those people as they come to know such diseases, the signs and symptoms and what they should do. Umm ... I think that can work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else before we stop?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.600485442055319, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changes in diet have been caused by social and tribal interaction, for instance the coming of Arusha people to our village has contributed to the increase of some food items at the market such as bananas, cabbage, pineapples, while in the past years, there was no bananas at our market.\n\nFactors for changes in diet are shortage of grazing land, decreased number of livestock and increased crop farms; all these have led to adaptation of new food items.\n\nFactors for changes in diet include shortage of grazing land, decreased number of livestock and increased crop farms; all these have led to adaptation of new food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods did you use to eat in the past period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past years, the Maasai used to eat milk, more especially fermented milk, but nowadays we just eat stiff porridge, vegetables such as amaranth leaves, pumpkin leaves sweet potatoes leaves, cow peas leaves, cassava leaves, as well as other relish such as beans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have changes in diet become different to women, men and children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We all eat the same food together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was it in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7783171578392432, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past years, the Maasai used to eat milk, more especially fermented milk, but nowadays we just eat stiff porridge, vegetables such as amaranth leaves, pumpkin leaves sweet potatoes leaves, cow peas leaves, cassava leaves, as well as other relish such as beans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have changes in diet become different to women, men and children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We all eat the same food together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was it in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays everything has changed completely, in the past we all ate milk, but nowadays we eat stiff porridge.\n\nIn the past children also ate milk but nowadays children eat bulrush millet porridge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare and cook bulrush millet porridge"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9759079531547146, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We all eat the same food together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was it in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays everything has changed completely, in the past we all ate milk, but nowadays we eat stiff porridge.\n\nIn the past children also ate milk but nowadays children eat bulrush millet porridge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare and cook bulrush millet porridge"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We mix flour, water and milk, and then we stir up and boil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why there is change in food preparation methods, for instance in the past period, you used to boil food but nowadays you prepare food by frying, roasting, boiling, etc?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.195453281283016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays everything has changed completely, in the past we all ate milk, but nowadays we eat stiff porridge.\n\nIn the past children also ate milk but nowadays children eat bulrush millet porridge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare and cook bulrush millet porridge"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We mix flour, water and milk, and then we stir up and boil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why there is change in food preparation methods, for instance in the past period, you used to boil food but nowadays you prepare food by frying, roasting, boiling, etc?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education is one of the reasons why people have changed methods in preparation of foods, for instance in the past most people had primary school education but nowadays people do attend school to secondary school and college levels, so when people of different ethnic background meet together, they share different experiences, customs, traditions and techniques, so most people learn new things from their fellows.\n\nAnother reason is social interaction which enables most people to share different experiences whereby some people do adapt new things in their lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was diet system among the Zigua people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3282814236477953, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We mix flour, water and milk, and then we stir up and boil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why there is change in food preparation methods, for instance in the past period, you used to boil food but nowadays you prepare food by frying, roasting, boiling, etc?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education is one of the reasons why people have changed methods in preparation of foods, for instance in the past most people had primary school education but nowadays people do attend school to secondary school and college levels, so when people of different ethnic background meet together, they share different experiences, customs, traditions and techniques, so most people learn new things from their fellows.\n\nAnother reason is social interaction which enables most people to share different experiences whereby some people do adapt new things in their lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was diet system among the Zigua people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Zigua people used to prepare and eat porridge in the morning, stiff porridge for lunch and dinner, this would last for a month, but nowadays you may prepare stiff porridge for lunch, rice for dinner or cracked and cooked maize for lunch and bananas for dinner.\n\nWe used to drink tea during breakfast, stiff porridge for lunch and dinner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has education changed you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4758682484975503, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education is one of the reasons why people have changed methods in preparation of foods, for instance in the past most people had primary school education but nowadays people do attend school to secondary school and college levels, so when people of different ethnic background meet together, they share different experiences, customs, traditions and techniques, so most people learn new things from their fellows.\n\nAnother reason is social interaction which enables most people to share different experiences whereby some people do adapt new things in their lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was diet system among the Zigua people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Zigua people used to prepare and eat porridge in the morning, stiff porridge for lunch and dinner, this would last for a month, but nowadays you may prepare stiff porridge for lunch, rice for dinner or cracked and cooked maize for lunch and bananas for dinner.\n\nWe used to drink tea during breakfast, stiff porridge for lunch and dinner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has education changed you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has brought big changes, for instance in the past girls were not taken to school but nowadays they are taken to schools, they get educated and get employed in different places, this is a change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this helped girl?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6398536094417224, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Zigua people used to prepare and eat porridge in the morning, stiff porridge for lunch and dinner, this would last for a month, but nowadays you may prepare stiff porridge for lunch, rice for dinner or cracked and cooked maize for lunch and bananas for dinner.\n\nWe used to drink tea during breakfast, stiff porridge for lunch and dinner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has education changed you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has brought big changes, for instance in the past girls were not taken to school but nowadays they are taken to schools, they get educated and get employed in different places, this is a change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this helped girl?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Taking girls to school has helped them to be confident, independent, free and to sustain their families"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is education very important to girls and women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.822059566046358, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has brought big changes, for instance in the past girls were not taken to school but nowadays they are taken to schools, they get educated and get employed in different places, this is a change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this helped girl?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Taking girls to school has helped them to be confident, independent, free and to sustain their families"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is education very important to girls and women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is very important because if you have education, you will help your family and develop your society, because if you have education there are some development issues which will be achieved, moreover you will educate and help your brothers and sisters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has provision of education to girls contributed to changes in diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.024510628940398, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Taking girls to school has helped them to be confident, independent, free and to sustain their families"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is education very important to girls and women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is very important because if you have education, you will help your family and develop your society, because if you have education there are some development issues which will be achieved, moreover you will educate and help your brothers and sisters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has provision of education to girls contributed to changes in diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has contributed to changes in diet, for instance in the past mother used to give food left over to their children without warming it, but nowadays it is a different case, children do eat warmed food stuffs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of education to Maasai people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2494562543782197, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is very important because if you have education, you will help your family and develop your society, because if you have education there are some development issues which will be achieved, moreover you will educate and help your brothers and sisters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has provision of education to girls contributed to changes in diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has contributed to changes in diet, for instance in the past mother used to give food left over to their children without warming it, but nowadays it is a different case, children do eat warmed food stuffs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of education to Maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has helped them to change their daily lives, for instance they used to keep lots of livestock, but nowadays due to limited grazing land, most Maasai have reduced their livestock.\n\nEducation also has helped people to change mind wise, for instance nowadays many Maasai people do take their children to schools.\n\nIn the past most Maasai men used to take their livestock to 'lonjo' but nowadays most of them have changed their minds and they have started going to school and performing other activities.\n\nEducation helps the Maasai to read letters.\n\nEducation has helped the Maasai to resolve and overcome the occurring conflicts and challenges in livestock keeping."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your perception towards the educated Maasai people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.499395838198022, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has contributed to changes in diet, for instance in the past mother used to give food left over to their children without warming it, but nowadays it is a different case, children do eat warmed food stuffs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of education to Maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has helped them to change their daily lives, for instance they used to keep lots of livestock, but nowadays due to limited grazing land, most Maasai have reduced their livestock.\n\nEducation also has helped people to change mind wise, for instance nowadays many Maasai people do take their children to schools.\n\nIn the past most Maasai men used to take their livestock to 'lonjo' but nowadays most of them have changed their minds and they have started going to school and performing other activities.\n\nEducation helps the Maasai to read letters.\n\nEducation has helped the Maasai to resolve and overcome the occurring conflicts and challenges in livestock keeping."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your perception towards the educated Maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always witness good living styles and development to the educated Maasai people.\n\nThere is no any bad thing for the educated Maasai people.\n\nThe educated Maasai people do abandon some Maasai traditions and customs, they do not follow them accordingly, and this is a disadvantage of taking Maasai children to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "IG What is the importance of knowledge and understanding acquired from schools by the Maasai people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.777106486886691, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has helped them to change their daily lives, for instance they used to keep lots of livestock, but nowadays due to limited grazing land, most Maasai have reduced their livestock.\n\nEducation also has helped people to change mind wise, for instance nowadays many Maasai people do take their children to schools.\n\nIn the past most Maasai men used to take their livestock to 'lonjo' but nowadays most of them have changed their minds and they have started going to school and performing other activities.\n\nEducation helps the Maasai to read letters.\n\nEducation has helped the Maasai to resolve and overcome the occurring conflicts and challenges in livestock keeping."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your perception towards the educated Maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always witness good living styles and development to the educated Maasai people.\n\nThere is no any bad thing for the educated Maasai people.\n\nThe educated Maasai people do abandon some Maasai traditions and customs, they do not follow them accordingly, and this is a disadvantage of taking Maasai children to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "IG What is the importance of knowledge and understanding acquired from schools by the Maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of things have changed due to acquired knowledge and understanding from schools by our fellow Maasai.\n\nThe importance of taking Maasai kids to schools is that when they have graduated from their schools, they just build modern houses for their fathers and mothers, they also increase resources to their families, and they also persuade the whole surrounding community to take their children to schools. For that case, the Maasai who have a lot of livestock, they will have to sell some of them and take their children to schools after realizing the importance of taking children to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience the difference in diet between the educated and uneducated Maasai people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.0856738743185455, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always witness good living styles and development to the educated Maasai people.\n\nThere is no any bad thing for the educated Maasai people.\n\nThe educated Maasai people do abandon some Maasai traditions and customs, they do not follow them accordingly, and this is a disadvantage of taking Maasai children to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "IG What is the importance of knowledge and understanding acquired from schools by the Maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of things have changed due to acquired knowledge and understanding from schools by our fellow Maasai.\n\nThe importance of taking Maasai kids to schools is that when they have graduated from their schools, they just build modern houses for their fathers and mothers, they also increase resources to their families, and they also persuade the whole surrounding community to take their children to schools. For that case, the Maasai who have a lot of livestock, they will have to sell some of them and take their children to schools after realizing the importance of taking children to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience the difference in diet between the educated and uneducated Maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there is a difference, the educated people tend to change their diet after leaving schools and colleges, and they eat good food stuffs such as chips which are in most cases not eaten by normal people. They also prefer to attend their meals in town centers which are in the neighborhood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of foods do they eat which are not cooked at their homes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2063043047983841, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of things have changed due to acquired knowledge and understanding from schools by our fellow Maasai.\n\nThe importance of taking Maasai kids to schools is that when they have graduated from their schools, they just build modern houses for their fathers and mothers, they also increase resources to their families, and they also persuade the whole surrounding community to take their children to schools. For that case, the Maasai who have a lot of livestock, they will have to sell some of them and take their children to schools after realizing the importance of taking children to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience the difference in diet between the educated and uneducated Maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there is a difference, the educated people tend to change their diet after leaving schools and colleges, and they eat good food stuffs such as chips which are in most cases not eaten by normal people. They also prefer to attend their meals in town centers which are in the neighborhood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of foods do they eat which are not cooked at their homes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past period the Maasai Morans were not allowed to eat meat which was seen by women at their homes, but when they go to school and come back to homes, they do eat meat at their homes regardless of that meat being seen by women, they claim that there is no any bad thing or disadvantage which happens when they eat meat which has been seen by women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they get chips to eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.340338116442649, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there is a difference, the educated people tend to change their diet after leaving schools and colleges, and they eat good food stuffs such as chips which are in most cases not eaten by normal people. They also prefer to attend their meals in town centers which are in the neighborhood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of foods do they eat which are not cooked at their homes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past period the Maasai Morans were not allowed to eat meat which was seen by women at their homes, but when they go to school and come back to homes, they do eat meat at their homes regardless of that meat being seen by women, they claim that there is no any bad thing or disadvantage which happens when they eat meat which has been seen by women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they get chips to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of them do find them and eat them from the town centers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why men did not like to eat meat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4892645738251657, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past period the Maasai Morans were not allowed to eat meat which was seen by women at their homes, but when they go to school and come back to homes, they do eat meat at their homes regardless of that meat being seen by women, they claim that there is no any bad thing or disadvantage which happens when they eat meat which has been seen by women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do they get chips to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of them do find them and eat them from the town centers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why men did not like to eat meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were not allowed to eat meat which was seen by women, for instance if a cow dies in the presence of women, they will not eat that cow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens when they eat meat which women have seen?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6547384153612952, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of them do find them and eat them from the town centers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why men did not like to eat meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were not allowed to eat meat which was seen by women, for instance if a cow dies in the presence of women, they will not eat that cow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens when they eat meat which women have seen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is a tradition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your opinion about this situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.838598239290328, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were not allowed to eat meat which was seen by women, for instance if a cow dies in the presence of women, they will not eat that cow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens when they eat meat which women have seen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is a tradition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your opinion about this situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are very happy that there are changes and improvements."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For the case of Zigua people, how is the situation of education and diet changes in your society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0428869325448087, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is a tradition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your opinion about this situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are very happy that there are changes and improvements."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For the case of Zigua people, how is the situation of education and diet changes in your society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past years, the Zigua people did not take their children to school but nowadays when Zigua children are taken to school, most families do benefit from taking children to schools, for instance when children do leave and graduate from their studies, they help their parents, they build modern houses for them, they help their young sisters and brothers to take them to schools.\n\nThere is change in diet, for instance you will have to give pocket money to your kids so as to buy tea and cassava for breakfast, then stiff porridge for lunch, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok how are changes in women responsibilities after getting education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.269874369494232, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are very happy that there are changes and improvements."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For the case of Zigua people, how is the situation of education and diet changes in your society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past years, the Zigua people did not take their children to school but nowadays when Zigua children are taken to school, most families do benefit from taking children to schools, for instance when children do leave and graduate from their studies, they help their parents, they build modern houses for them, they help their young sisters and brothers to take them to schools.\n\nThere is change in diet, for instance you will have to give pocket money to your kids so as to buy tea and cassava for breakfast, then stiff porridge for lunch, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok how are changes in women responsibilities after getting education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have good progress, and everybody is satisfied, every person has his/her own farming process. Both women and men do get engaged in crop farming.\n\nDue to changes nowadays, we have decided to look for other sources of income, for instance we have learned how to till the land and practice crop farming unlike it was in the past when we dealt with livestock keeping only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has crop farming helped availability of diet nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.522082632771369, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past years, the Zigua people did not take their children to school but nowadays when Zigua children are taken to school, most families do benefit from taking children to schools, for instance when children do leave and graduate from their studies, they help their parents, they build modern houses for them, they help their young sisters and brothers to take them to schools.\n\nThere is change in diet, for instance you will have to give pocket money to your kids so as to buy tea and cassava for breakfast, then stiff porridge for lunch, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok how are changes in women responsibilities after getting education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have good progress, and everybody is satisfied, every person has his/her own farming process. Both women and men do get engaged in crop farming.\n\nDue to changes nowadays, we have decided to look for other sources of income, for instance we have learned how to till the land and practice crop farming unlike it was in the past when we dealt with livestock keeping only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has crop farming helped availability of diet nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Crop farming has helped us much because it enables us to change some living styles and diet in general."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which crops do you grow?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.802314036412632, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have good progress, and everybody is satisfied, every person has his/her own farming process. Both women and men do get engaged in crop farming.\n\nDue to changes nowadays, we have decided to look for other sources of income, for instance we have learned how to till the land and practice crop farming unlike it was in the past when we dealt with livestock keeping only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has crop farming helped availability of diet nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Crop farming has helped us much because it enables us to change some living styles and diet in general."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which crops do you grow?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grow maize, green grams,\n\nBeans\n\nPigeon peas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is change in life system? The Maasai practiced transhumance system in the past, how is the current situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1136822626807024, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Crop farming has helped us much because it enables us to change some living styles and diet in general."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which crops do you grow?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grow maize, green grams,\n\nBeans\n\nPigeon peas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is change in life system? The Maasai practiced transhumance system in the past, how is the current situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the current time, the Maasai do not shift their settlements as it was in the past. Most Maasai have permanent settlements.\n\nNowadays there is no longer transhumance among the Maasai society, instead they have permanent settlements, only livestock do shift depending on weather changes, for instance during summer season, livestock are shifted to the far place where there is enough pasture and water, but women and children do remain at homes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is diet system for the women and children who remain at homes when cows have been shifted to far places?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4596469585341136, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grow maize, green grams,\n\nBeans\n\nPigeon peas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is change in life system? The Maasai practiced transhumance system in the past, how is the current situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the current time, the Maasai do not shift their settlements as it was in the past. Most Maasai have permanent settlements.\n\nNowadays there is no longer transhumance among the Maasai society, instead they have permanent settlements, only livestock do shift depending on weather changes, for instance during summer season, livestock are shifted to the far place where there is enough pasture and water, but women and children do remain at homes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is diet system for the women and children who remain at homes when cows have been shifted to far places?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just eat the normal food including all kinds of vegetables, meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you see this situation when cows have been shifted to other places?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.844052176149015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the current time, the Maasai do not shift their settlements as it was in the past. Most Maasai have permanent settlements.\n\nNowadays there is no longer transhumance among the Maasai society, instead they have permanent settlements, only livestock do shift depending on weather changes, for instance during summer season, livestock are shifted to the far place where there is enough pasture and water, but women and children do remain at homes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is diet system for the women and children who remain at homes when cows have been shifted to far places?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just eat the normal food including all kinds of vegetables, meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you see this situation when cows have been shifted to other places?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The situation becomes very calm because there is no longer fighting for grazing lands and pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is more affected by the shifting of cows to far places?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.271169084610016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just eat the normal food including all kinds of vegetables, meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you see this situation when cows have been shifted to other places?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The situation becomes very calm because there is no longer fighting for grazing lands and pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is more affected by the shifting of cows to far places?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most affected group is women because they lack milk to feed their children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are changes in diet caused by price fluctuations?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.745743427344462, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The situation becomes very calm because there is no longer fighting for grazing lands and pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is more affected by the shifting of cows to far places?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most affected group is women because they lack milk to feed their children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are changes in diet caused by price fluctuations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays there is price increase almost for every item.\n\nIn the past years, most food items cost low prices but nowadays there is tremendous increase in price for most food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is food availability nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.273048252604958, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most affected group is women because they lack milk to feed their children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are changes in diet caused by price fluctuations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays there is price increase almost for every item.\n\nIn the past years, most food items cost low prices but nowadays there is tremendous increase in price for most food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is food availability nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Every person has increased prices so as to get much benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods when eaten by someone, people consider him/her to be poor?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.747831391783286, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays there is price increase almost for every item.\n\nIn the past years, most food items cost low prices but nowadays there is tremendous increase in price for most food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is food availability nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Every person has increased prices so as to get much benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods when eaten by someone, people consider him/her to be poor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When someone eats foods, which are not fried such as meat which is not fried.\n\nWhen you eat porridge, stiff porridge\n\nWhen someone eats stiff porridge left overs 'usiga' or 'togwa'\n\n'Togwa' is a left over from stiff porridge which is left after dinner and mixed with water and stirred up and eaten in the next morning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which relish, or vegetables are eaten by poor people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.27536821309254, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Every person has increased prices so as to get much benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods when eaten by someone, people consider him/her to be poor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When someone eats foods, which are not fried such as meat which is not fried.\n\nWhen you eat porridge, stiff porridge\n\nWhen someone eats stiff porridge left overs 'usiga' or 'togwa'\n\n'Togwa' is a left over from stiff porridge which is left after dinner and mixed with water and stirred up and eaten in the next morning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which relish, or vegetables are eaten by poor people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "tomato sauce.\n\n'Kungu juu' among the zigua people\n\n'Safele uwala'\n\n'kungu juu' is cooked with tomato, onions, salt, etc.\n\n'safele uwala' is cooked by boiling it with water.\n\n' wild jute leaves' this is cut into small pieces, dried and pounded, so when you decide to cook it you stir it in water and boil it, it looks like porridge.\n\nVegetables such as amaranth leaves, hares lettuce etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What effects do you experience in your diet when the above food items are missing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.861520236769489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When someone eats foods, which are not fried such as meat which is not fried.\n\nWhen you eat porridge, stiff porridge\n\nWhen someone eats stiff porridge left overs 'usiga' or 'togwa'\n\n'Togwa' is a left over from stiff porridge which is left after dinner and mixed with water and stirred up and eaten in the next morning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which relish, or vegetables are eaten by poor people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "tomato sauce.\n\n'Kungu juu' among the zigua people\n\n'Safele uwala'\n\n'kungu juu' is cooked with tomato, onions, salt, etc.\n\n'safele uwala' is cooked by boiling it with water.\n\n' wild jute leaves' this is cut into small pieces, dried and pounded, so when you decide to cook it you stir it in water and boil it, it looks like porridge.\n\nVegetables such as amaranth leaves, hares lettuce etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What effects do you experience in your diet when the above food items are missing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have no any bad effects due to the missing of the above food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does this type of diet affect your tribes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.401689151966099, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "tomato sauce.\n\n'Kungu juu' among the zigua people\n\n'Safele uwala'\n\n'kungu juu' is cooked with tomato, onions, salt, etc.\n\n'safele uwala' is cooked by boiling it with water.\n\n' wild jute leaves' this is cut into small pieces, dried and pounded, so when you decide to cook it you stir it in water and boil it, it looks like porridge.\n\nVegetables such as amaranth leaves, hares lettuce etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What effects do you experience in your diet when the above food items are missing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have no any bad effects due to the missing of the above food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does this type of diet affect your tribes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Among the Zigua people we have no any bad effect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned factors for diet changes which include social and tribe interaction such as immigration of barbaigs and Arusha people, availability of varieties of food at the market, provision of education such as secondary and college education, shifting of cows, crop cultivation among the Maasai, etc. You have talked about foods which are considered to be for the poor people such as kungujuu, wild jute leaves, etc. Now what are the major and minor factors for the change in diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.890765724406776, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have no any bad effects due to the missing of the above food items."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does this type of diet affect your tribes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Among the Zigua people we have no any bad effect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned factors for diet changes which include social and tribe interaction such as immigration of barbaigs and Arusha people, availability of varieties of food at the market, provision of education such as secondary and college education, shifting of cows, crop cultivation among the Maasai, etc. You have talked about foods which are considered to be for the poor people such as kungujuu, wild jute leaves, etc. Now what are the major and minor factors for the change in diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The major factor is crop cultivation.\n\nThe first factor is modern education\n\nEducation is the first factor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let one of you lead you to sort out the rest of the factors, starting with the first and last factor. Let everybody provide her views"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2119619160075294, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Among the Zigua people we have no any bad effect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned factors for diet changes which include social and tribe interaction such as immigration of barbaigs and Arusha people, availability of varieties of food at the market, provision of education such as secondary and college education, shifting of cows, crop cultivation among the Maasai, etc. You have talked about foods which are considered to be for the poor people such as kungujuu, wild jute leaves, etc. Now what are the major and minor factors for the change in diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The major factor is crop cultivation.\n\nThe first factor is modern education\n\nEducation is the first factor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let one of you lead you to sort out the rest of the factors, starting with the first and last factor. Let everybody provide her views"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first factor is education\n\nThe second factor is livestock keeping\n\nThe third factor should be crop cultivation.\n\nThe third factor is crop cultivation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why education has led to great changes in diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.568846573341699, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The major factor is crop cultivation.\n\nThe first factor is modern education\n\nEducation is the first factor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let one of you lead you to sort out the rest of the factors, starting with the first and last factor. Let everybody provide her views"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first factor is education\n\nThe second factor is livestock keeping\n\nThe third factor should be crop cultivation.\n\nThe third factor is crop cultivation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why education has led to great changes in diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has brought many changes in diet as well as general development in all life aspects."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which kind of development has been brought about by education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8542739703796656, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first factor is education\n\nThe second factor is livestock keeping\n\nThe third factor should be crop cultivation.\n\nThe third factor is crop cultivation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why education has led to great changes in diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has brought many changes in diet as well as general development in all life aspects."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which kind of development has been brought about by education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has brought about good development, for instance in Misima ward, we used to have educated and employed people from other places and not from our own place. Education has also helped children to build modern houses for their parents and do away with traditional Maasai huts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has livestock keeping led to these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.171415522644073, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has brought many changes in diet as well as general development in all life aspects."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which kind of development has been brought about by education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has brought about good development, for instance in Misima ward, we used to have educated and employed people from other places and not from our own place. Education has also helped children to build modern houses for their parents and do away with traditional Maasai huts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has livestock keeping led to these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Livestock keeping has helped to change living styles in our community because we sell cows and take children to school.\n\nEducation has brought changes because when children go to school, they acquire good habit and have good behaviors and build modern houses for their parents.\n\nEducation has also brought changes more especially in changing people's minds towards development, nowadays many people do work and produce and earn some income so as to take children to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us now discuss the use of milk. How was the importance of milk, at the time when your mothers were at your age?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.523795025160081, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has brought about good development, for instance in Misima ward, we used to have educated and employed people from other places and not from our own place. Education has also helped children to build modern houses for their parents and do away with traditional Maasai huts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has livestock keeping led to these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Livestock keeping has helped to change living styles in our community because we sell cows and take children to school.\n\nEducation has brought changes because when children go to school, they acquire good habit and have good behaviors and build modern houses for their parents.\n\nEducation has also brought changes more especially in changing people's minds towards development, nowadays many people do work and produce and earn some income so as to take children to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us now discuss the use of milk. How was the importance of milk, at the time when your mothers were at your age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did not have our own; we depended on other people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we agree that milk is very important for health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.915327805733423, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Livestock keeping has helped to change living styles in our community because we sell cows and take children to school.\n\nEducation has brought changes because when children go to school, they acquire good habit and have good behaviors and build modern houses for their parents.\n\nEducation has also brought changes more especially in changing people's minds towards development, nowadays many people do work and produce and earn some income so as to take children to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us now discuss the use of milk. How was the importance of milk, at the time when your mothers were at your age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did not have our own; we depended on other people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we agree that milk is very important for health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, milk is very important for health but nowadays there is scarcity of milk because of aridity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the situation currently for other people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.350364228592692, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did not have our own; we depended on other people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we agree that milk is very important for health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, milk is very important for health but nowadays there is scarcity of milk because of aridity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the situation currently for other people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Currently the situation is very bad because there is no milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which months do you get enough milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.611515809547436, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, milk is very important for health but nowadays there is scarcity of milk because of aridity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the situation currently for other people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Currently the situation is very bad because there is no milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which months do you get enough milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always have enough milk during rainy season, in March, April to May because we always have enough pasture in the grazing fields."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does milk still have the real importance to our body health like it was in the past years?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.9016842328304846, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Currently the situation is very bad because there is no milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which months do you get enough milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always have enough milk during rainy season, in March, April to May because we always have enough pasture in the grazing fields."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does milk still have the real importance to our body health like it was in the past years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to drink milk as our staple food, we did not use any kind of relish or vegetable, we simply used milk for everything. Milk was used as cooking oil for our meals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What caused this situation to change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0018713698116497, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always have enough milk during rainy season, in March, April to May because we always have enough pasture in the grazing fields."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does milk still have the real importance to our body health like it was in the past years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to drink milk as our staple food, we did not use any kind of relish or vegetable, we simply used milk for everything. Milk was used as cooking oil for our meals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What caused this situation to change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The situation changed because the world is changing, and crop farms are changing, there are a lot of farms.\n\nWe Zigua people do not depend on milk for our meals, even if the child stops breast feeding, we cannot feed it with milk or we cannot prepare milk for stiff porridge as sauce.\n\nThe importance of milk is still the same, but we Zigua people do not much depend on milk to feed the baby, unless when a baby stops sucking or when a baby is delivered and the mother dies soon after delivery\n\nA baby should be breastfed six months consecutively without giving it goat or cow milk, unless the mother dies before six months after delivery, even if a baby is fed with cow milk in normal circumstances the health condition of that baby will be poorer than a breastfed baby. If you feed a baby with cow milk, you should mix it with some water so as to rescue the baby from diarrhea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk to our health in Zigua community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.113190410901833, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to drink milk as our staple food, we did not use any kind of relish or vegetable, we simply used milk for everything. Milk was used as cooking oil for our meals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What caused this situation to change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The situation changed because the world is changing, and crop farms are changing, there are a lot of farms.\n\nWe Zigua people do not depend on milk for our meals, even if the child stops breast feeding, we cannot feed it with milk or we cannot prepare milk for stiff porridge as sauce.\n\nThe importance of milk is still the same, but we Zigua people do not much depend on milk to feed the baby, unless when a baby stops sucking or when a baby is delivered and the mother dies soon after delivery\n\nA baby should be breastfed six months consecutively without giving it goat or cow milk, unless the mother dies before six months after delivery, even if a baby is fed with cow milk in normal circumstances the health condition of that baby will be poorer than a breastfed baby. If you feed a baby with cow milk, you should mix it with some water so as to rescue the baby from diarrhea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk to our health in Zigua community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The importance of milk is much realized in restaurants because most people prefer milk tea to black tea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss the use of cow blood. When do you use cow blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.23687823433537, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The situation changed because the world is changing, and crop farms are changing, there are a lot of farms.\n\nWe Zigua people do not depend on milk for our meals, even if the child stops breast feeding, we cannot feed it with milk or we cannot prepare milk for stiff porridge as sauce.\n\nThe importance of milk is still the same, but we Zigua people do not much depend on milk to feed the baby, unless when a baby stops sucking or when a baby is delivered and the mother dies soon after delivery\n\nA baby should be breastfed six months consecutively without giving it goat or cow milk, unless the mother dies before six months after delivery, even if a baby is fed with cow milk in normal circumstances the health condition of that baby will be poorer than a breastfed baby. If you feed a baby with cow milk, you should mix it with some water so as to rescue the baby from diarrhea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk to our health in Zigua community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The importance of milk is much realized in restaurants because most people prefer milk tea to black tea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss the use of cow blood. When do you use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always drink cow blood if someone falls sick or when someone feels dizzy or when someone has anemia, this helps to stabilize his body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you use cow blood when it still fresh or?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.374309149261522, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The importance of milk is much realized in restaurants because most people prefer milk tea to black tea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss the use of cow blood. When do you use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always drink cow blood if someone falls sick or when someone feels dizzy or when someone has anemia, this helps to stabilize his body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you use cow blood when it still fresh or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always use fresh cow blood, after tapping it from the cow we mix it with milk and drink it.\n\nWe always tap blood from the cow which is about to bear a calf. If a baby is seriously sick we use goat blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How much do you give a baby?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5270101658461355, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always drink cow blood if someone falls sick or when someone feels dizzy or when someone has anemia, this helps to stabilize his body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you use cow blood when it still fresh or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always use fresh cow blood, after tapping it from the cow we mix it with milk and drink it.\n\nWe always tap blood from the cow which is about to bear a calf. If a baby is seriously sick we use goat blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How much do you give a baby?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We give a baby just a small amount of blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you mix it with milk so as to give a baby or not?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6966779620512615, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always use fresh cow blood, after tapping it from the cow we mix it with milk and drink it.\n\nWe always tap blood from the cow which is about to bear a calf. If a baby is seriously sick we use goat blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How much do you give a baby?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We give a baby just a small amount of blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you mix it with milk so as to give a baby or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can either mix it with milk or some oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare the cow blood for the baby?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8851977356125127, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We give a baby just a small amount of blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you mix it with milk so as to give a baby or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can either mix it with milk or some oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare the cow blood for the baby?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just give the baby just small amounts of it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the Zigua people use cow blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0946641506805697, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can either mix it with milk or some oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare the cow blood for the baby?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just give the baby just small amounts of it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the Zigua people use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Zigua people do not use cow blood.\n\nWe do not use cow blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think cow blood is very important?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3274046118672995, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just give the baby just small amounts of it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the Zigua people use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Zigua people do not use cow blood.\n\nWe do not use cow blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think cow blood is very important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cow blood is very important for the Maasai because it helps our patients to increase blood in the body system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of cow blood nowadays compared to the time when you were still young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5860051242969995, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Zigua people do not use cow blood.\n\nWe do not use cow blood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think cow blood is very important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cow blood is very important for the Maasai because it helps our patients to increase blood in the body system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of cow blood nowadays compared to the time when you were still young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays there is change in using cow blood, people do go to hospital to increase blood in their body in case of anemia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why there is little change in the use of cow blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.873339026996666, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cow blood is very important for the Maasai because it helps our patients to increase blood in the body system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of cow blood nowadays compared to the time when you were still young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays there is change in using cow blood, people do go to hospital to increase blood in their body in case of anemia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why there is little change in the use of cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because the world is changing. The older things are being abandoned and people do adopt new things. The main factor for this change is education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has change in diet affected our communities or tribes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.192598918885184, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays there is change in using cow blood, people do go to hospital to increase blood in their body in case of anemia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why there is little change in the use of cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because the world is changing. The older things are being abandoned and people do adopt new things. The main factor for this change is education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has change in diet affected our communities or tribes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changes in diet have affected our communities/tribes because many people have abandoned natural and traditional food stuffs, these changes have created an image which did not exist before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affected the youths in Kibaya village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.547332132094649, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because the world is changing. The older things are being abandoned and people do adopt new things. The main factor for this change is education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has change in diet affected our communities or tribes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changes in diet have affected our communities/tribes because many people have abandoned natural and traditional food stuffs, these changes have created an image which did not exist before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affected the youths in Kibaya village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These changes have affected the youths because most youths tend to have bad habits and behaviors.\n\nChanges in diet have affected the youths because in the past years most youths used to eat foods at homes but nowadays they just eat foods at the food vendors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you choose food to eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7192579245496102, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changes in diet have affected our communities/tribes because many people have abandoned natural and traditional food stuffs, these changes have created an image which did not exist before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affected the youths in Kibaya village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These changes have affected the youths because most youths tend to have bad habits and behaviors.\n\nChanges in diet have affected the youths because in the past years most youths used to eat foods at homes but nowadays they just eat foods at the food vendors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you choose food to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I always choose depending on my personal interests, for instance I may need to eat stiff porridge today and tomorrow I decide to eat rice, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods are most preferred by the youths?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9102865828329003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These changes have affected the youths because most youths tend to have bad habits and behaviors.\n\nChanges in diet have affected the youths because in the past years most youths used to eat foods at homes but nowadays they just eat foods at the food vendors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you choose food to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I always choose depending on my personal interests, for instance I may need to eat stiff porridge today and tomorrow I decide to eat rice, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods are most preferred by the youths?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They prefer chips, chicken, and\n\nMeat.\n\nRice, pilau\n\nPotatoes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you choose food to prepare/cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0114295364810002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I always choose depending on my personal interests, for instance I may need to eat stiff porridge today and tomorrow I decide to eat rice, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods are most preferred by the youths?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They prefer chips, chicken, and\n\nMeat.\n\nRice, pilau\n\nPotatoes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you choose food to prepare/cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can choose food to cook stiff porridge, amaranth leaves and sardines for lunch, rice and beans for dinner and cracked and cooked maize for the whole day.\n\nEvery person prepares food according to his choice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about for the case of men, is it for men of all age groups or not?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1238105960900002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They prefer chips, chicken, and\n\nMeat.\n\nRice, pilau\n\nPotatoes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you choose food to prepare/cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can choose food to cook stiff porridge, amaranth leaves and sardines for lunch, rice and beans for dinner and cracked and cooked maize for the whole day.\n\nEvery person prepares food according to his choice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about for the case of men, is it for men of all age groups or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men do eat the same food regardless of the age group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which drinks are most taken by youths?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2486784401000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can choose food to cook stiff porridge, amaranth leaves and sardines for lunch, rice and beans for dinner and cracked and cooked maize for the whole day.\n\nEvery person prepares food according to his choice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about for the case of men, is it for men of all age groups or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men do eat the same food regardless of the age group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which drinks are most taken by youths?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Youths also eat the same foods and drinks which are prepared by people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned that some foods which are preferred by youths include rice, pilau, chips, chicken, meat, etc. WHY DO YOU PREFER THESE FOODS?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3874204890000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men do eat the same food regardless of the age group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which drinks are most taken by youths?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Youths also eat the same foods and drinks which are prepared by people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned that some foods which are preferred by youths include rice, pilau, chips, chicken, meat, etc. WHY DO YOU PREFER THESE FOODS?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We prefer such kind of food because of their delicious taste\n\nWe consider the food taste"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is responsible to prepare and cook the above-mentioned food stuffs? Which factors cause someone to prepare certain type of food among the above-mentioned ones? What is the first and last food item?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Youths also eat the same foods and drinks which are prepared by people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned that some foods which are preferred by youths include rice, pilau, chips, chicken, meat, etc. WHY DO YOU PREFER THESE FOODS?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We prefer such kind of food because of their delicious taste\n\nWe consider the food taste"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is responsible to prepare and cook the above-mentioned food stuffs? Which factors cause someone to prepare certain type of food among the above-mentioned ones? What is the first and last food item?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first food item should be chips\n\nThe second food item should be meat\n\nThe third be should be potatoes\n\nThe fourth one should be milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned three factors for food preference including food taste, food preparation method and responsibilities as well as food preference/interest?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We prefer such kind of food because of their delicious taste\n\nWe consider the food taste"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is responsible to prepare and cook the above-mentioned food stuffs? Which factors cause someone to prepare certain type of food among the above-mentioned ones? What is the first and last food item?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first food item should be chips\n\nThe second food item should be meat\n\nThe third be should be potatoes\n\nThe fourth one should be milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned three factors for food preference including food taste, food preparation method and responsibilities as well as food preference/interest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first factor should be food taste\n\nThe first factor should be food taste"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does food taste affect the choice of food among the youths?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first food item should be chips\n\nThe second food item should be meat\n\nThe third be should be potatoes\n\nThe fourth one should be milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned three factors for food preference including food taste, food preparation method and responsibilities as well as food preference/interest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first factor should be food taste\n\nThe first factor should be food taste"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does food taste affect the choice of food among the youths?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The food taste enables a youth to choose a type of food because when food tastes delicious, then it will be preferred by most people.\n\nThe second factor is food preference\n\nThe last factor is food preparation responsibilities"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do youths get diet education from?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first factor should be food taste\n\nThe first factor should be food taste"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does food taste affect the choice of food among the youths?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The food taste enables a youth to choose a type of food because when food tastes delicious, then it will be preferred by most people.\n\nThe second factor is food preference\n\nThe last factor is food preparation responsibilities"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do youths get diet education from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get diet and health education from schools.\n\nSometimes we get diet and health education from our mothers/grandmothers and sisters in our homes.\n\nAt school, we learn how to prepare and cook delicious food.\n\nAt homes, we get to be educated and given instructions by our mothers and sisters, they instruct us how to prepare food or relish from the first step to the last step.\n\nEven our brothers do teach us and instruct us how to prepare and cook food, although this is not done in most cases. They normally do it when our sisters and mothers are absent."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you compare the position of school and homes in providing diet education"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The food taste enables a youth to choose a type of food because when food tastes delicious, then it will be preferred by most people.\n\nThe second factor is food preference\n\nThe last factor is food preparation responsibilities"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do youths get diet education from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get diet and health education from schools.\n\nSometimes we get diet and health education from our mothers/grandmothers and sisters in our homes.\n\nAt school, we learn how to prepare and cook delicious food.\n\nAt homes, we get to be educated and given instructions by our mothers and sisters, they instruct us how to prepare food or relish from the first step to the last step.\n\nEven our brothers do teach us and instruct us how to prepare and cook food, although this is not done in most cases. They normally do it when our sisters and mothers are absent."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you compare the position of school and homes in providing diet education"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The position of school is less important than homes, because at schools we always happen to get chances to prepare food during different events such as standard seven national examination sessions or graduation, homes have a big chance because most of us spend much time at homes, so we get to learn many things from our elders about diet and good health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of diet and good health education to women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get diet and health education from schools.\n\nSometimes we get diet and health education from our mothers/grandmothers and sisters in our homes.\n\nAt school, we learn how to prepare and cook delicious food.\n\nAt homes, we get to be educated and given instructions by our mothers and sisters, they instruct us how to prepare food or relish from the first step to the last step.\n\nEven our brothers do teach us and instruct us how to prepare and cook food, although this is not done in most cases. They normally do it when our sisters and mothers are absent."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you compare the position of school and homes in providing diet education"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The position of school is less important than homes, because at schools we always happen to get chances to prepare food during different events such as standard seven national examination sessions or graduation, homes have a big chance because most of us spend much time at homes, so we get to learn many things from our elders about diet and good health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of diet and good health education to women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A woman has to know how to prepare and cook food because if you do not know how to cook food, then the family will not consider you as a real woman."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What should be done so as to improve provision of diet education at schools? Do you mean that the youths who go to school and graduate, they do not know how to cook food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The position of school is less important than homes, because at schools we always happen to get chances to prepare food during different events such as standard seven national examination sessions or graduation, homes have a big chance because most of us spend much time at homes, so we get to learn many things from our elders about diet and good health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of diet and good health education to women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A woman has to know how to prepare and cook food because if you do not know how to cook food, then the family will not consider you as a real woman."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What should be done so as to improve provision of diet education at schools? Do you mean that the youths who go to school and graduate, they do not know how to cook food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They know how to cook.\n\nThe school children do know how to cook food because they get extra knowledge about diet and health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can diet and health education help to improve food varieties at homes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A woman has to know how to prepare and cook food because if you do not know how to cook food, then the family will not consider you as a real woman."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What should be done so as to improve provision of diet education at schools? Do you mean that the youths who go to school and graduate, they do not know how to cook food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They know how to cook.\n\nThe school children do know how to cook food because they get extra knowledge about diet and health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can diet and health education help to improve food varieties at homes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it can help to improve food preparation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How should diet and health education be provided to youths?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They know how to cook.\n\nThe school children do know how to cook food because they get extra knowledge about diet and health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can diet and health education help to improve food varieties at homes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it can help to improve food preparation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How should diet and health education be provided to youths?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There should be seminars and regular provision of diet education to youths.\n\nThere should be a committee for cookery; this will help the Kibaya village girls to get enough education about diet and health issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How should the committee work?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it can help to improve food preparation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How should diet and health education be provided to youths?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There should be seminars and regular provision of diet education to youths.\n\nThere should be a committee for cookery; this will help the Kibaya village girls to get enough education about diet and health issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How should the committee work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The committee for cookery should provide education to youths."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who should form the committee?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There should be seminars and regular provision of diet education to youths.\n\nThere should be a committee for cookery; this will help the Kibaya village girls to get enough education about diet and health issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How should the committee work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The committee for cookery should provide education to youths."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who should form the committee?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In villages and sub villages, the chairperson becomes responsible to form a committee because he/she knows the people very well. The number of sub villages and youths should be taken into consideration."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many members should form the committee?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The committee for cookery should provide education to youths."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who should form the committee?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In villages and sub villages, the chairperson becomes responsible to form a committee because he/she knows the people very well. The number of sub villages and youths should be taken into consideration."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many members should form the committee?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends on the decision of the sub village chairperson."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What should the committee teach about?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In villages and sub villages, the chairperson becomes responsible to form a committee because he/she knows the people very well. The number of sub villages and youths should be taken into consideration."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many members should form the committee?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends on the decision of the sub village chairperson."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What should the committee teach about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The committee should teach about cookery issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times should the committee meet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00010:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends on the decision of the sub village chairperson."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What should the committee teach about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The committee should teach about cookery issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times should the committee meet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will depend on their demands and needs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you very much for your time. Do you have any other additional opinions? Thanks for your participation."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00003:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.582803260000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So from the people I spoke to and research, my view would be that it doesn't make sense for it not to be mandatory, I think it either has to be not used at all or be within a mandatory system. What we have seen with the pilots is that the pilots are voluntary, it just wasn't making sense, people on the ground involved in the pilots were saying we're having real trouble getting developers to sign up to this, it's this new thing - why would they sign up for this, when it's voluntary, if they can't see the benefits for it yet. So, I would suggest that it would need to be part of a mandatory system that is really well controlled, not a crazy one it could develop into."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After speaking to one of the campaigning organisations, the respondent was saying there might be rogue traders that crop up if there is no regulatory system of certified offsetters."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely, there's a real problem, I think we've seen some of that in the US going on as well. I know The Environment Bank are very keen to be part of a legal framework and mandatory system - they are concerned there could be rogue traders and which undercut them and don’t applying things in the proper way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Maybe there are parallels between carbon offsetting and biodiversity offsetting in that there is a race to the bottom in providing the cheapest offsets?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely, that's the risk when you make it a market system. There can be advantages of it being a market system, but that is a risk. Certainly people that are negative about BO were pointing to CO world and what's going on there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "More from an equity point of view: when people undertake BO, do you think affected communities are remunerated, or should they be, is it always practical?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00003:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.3740000000000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My point of view is that yes it would be really important to be including local stakeholders but considering the other part of my research looking at the local authorities and the resources they have yes it would be really important to have that process happening and be including ... but considering the way ecological impact assessment is happening at the moment, even without extra need for considering BO, there's not the resources there to do this process. The less you have particular local authorities that have very engaged planning officers, or particularly have ecologists actually employed by the local authorities or a very strong relationship with ecologists that are used by the local authority, then there's a risk that that process doesn't happen and the local people are ignored. The other way would be to have a developer that very strongly wanted to take part in that process and you might have developers that are like that because that's very important for their PR, but that kind of needs to be managed in a way, otherwise you end up with people at loggerheads and no constructive debate at all I guess. I don't really know to what extent that has or hasn't happened. I think looking abroad and saying this happened here so that's gonna happen here isn't necessarily true because I think we have a very different situation in the UK to the US or Australia. I'd say, look at the planning system at the moment, look at the flaws in it. The real lack of ecologists. The biodiversity duty just not being properly considered at all within many local authorities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it a resource problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's a resource problem, it's massive cuts within local authorities, the ecology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "this cropped up a lot in the interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This was happening before this..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This signals the entry of the private sector into conservation. It obviously presents opportunities and risks. What kind of opportunities and risks do you think it poses?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00003:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.86, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's a resource problem, it's massive cuts within local authorities, the ecology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "this cropped up a lot in the interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This was happening before this..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This signals the entry of the private sector into conservation. It obviously presents opportunities and risks. What kind of opportunities and risks do you think it poses?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do you mean in terms of having consultant ecologists being involved in the process?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From the point of view of of offsetters and then the developers creating pots of money for wildlife trusts."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00003:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.4, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This was happening before this..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This signals the entry of the private sector into conservation. It obviously presents opportunities and risks. What kind of opportunities and risks do you think it poses?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do you mean in terms of having consultant ecologists being involved in the process?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From the point of view of of offsetters and then the developers creating pots of money for wildlife trusts."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a massive opportunity there for conservation and it could be really exciting if it's done as an additional and that causes a fear, that this money that is meant to be additional to enhance areas or give additional land around SSSIs might creep into what should be the statutory duty of government to be funding, that that could end up being used private money. I suppose a pragmatist would say look what the situation is at the moment, if we want there to be funding for nature conservation this is the way we are going to have to go. So it's a difficult one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens, this is what no one has been able to fathom. What happens to the biodiversity offsetting site, does it go into private hands and also, does it acquire some kind of new status? Or can you build on a biodiversity offset site?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00003:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 6.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do you mean in terms of having consultant ecologists being involved in the process?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From the point of view of of offsetters and then the developers creating pots of money for wildlife trusts."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a massive opportunity there for conservation and it could be really exciting if it's done as an additional and that causes a fear, that this money that is meant to be additional to enhance areas or give additional land around SSSIs might creep into what should be the statutory duty of government to be funding, that that could end up being used private money. I suppose a pragmatist would say look what the situation is at the moment, if we want there to be funding for nature conservation this is the way we are going to have to go. So it's a difficult one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens, this is what no one has been able to fathom. What happens to the biodiversity offsetting site, does it go into private hands and also, does it acquire some kind of new status? Or can you build on a biodiversity offset site?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would just completely defeat the object if you could build on a biodiversity offsetting site. But without the proper legal framework in place, which I believe, .... lot of talk about conservation covenance, but..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is conservation covenance?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00003:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a massive opportunity there for conservation and it could be really exciting if it's done as an additional and that causes a fear, that this money that is meant to be additional to enhance areas or give additional land around SSSIs might creep into what should be the statutory duty of government to be funding, that that could end up being used private money. I suppose a pragmatist would say look what the situation is at the moment, if we want there to be funding for nature conservation this is the way we are going to have to go. So it's a difficult one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens, this is what no one has been able to fathom. What happens to the biodiversity offsetting site, does it go into private hands and also, does it acquire some kind of new status? Or can you build on a biodiversity offset site?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would just completely defeat the object if you could build on a biodiversity offsetting site. But without the proper legal framework in place, which I believe, .... lot of talk about conservation covenance, but..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is conservation covenance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The government have asked a legal body, looking at law and offsetting land. There might be a law about what you can do with a site between 50-100 years. From an ecological perspective, you need to have at least a 100 year agreement in order to bring it up to this standard. It is gonna have to be for at least 100 years. When I was speaking to landowners and particularly farmers. If we want to get farmers involved, that would be a real way to provide large areas we want. But farmers work in sort of next year and five year, 10 year cycles. They can't be sure the money from having this offset, that is going to still be viable economically if we want to have people other than simply the wildlife trust and conservation organisations being part of managing offsets, you've gotta sort the legal framework out before that happens."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Will there be an incentive for more conservation to be outsourced to the private sector if they can undercut the well recognised conservation organisations?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00003:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would just completely defeat the object if you could build on a biodiversity offsetting site. But without the proper legal framework in place, which I believe, .... lot of talk about conservation covenance, but..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is conservation covenance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The government have asked a legal body, looking at law and offsetting land. There might be a law about what you can do with a site between 50-100 years. From an ecological perspective, you need to have at least a 100 year agreement in order to bring it up to this standard. It is gonna have to be for at least 100 years. When I was speaking to landowners and particularly farmers. If we want to get farmers involved, that would be a real way to provide large areas we want. But farmers work in sort of next year and five year, 10 year cycles. They can't be sure the money from having this offset, that is going to still be viable economically if we want to have people other than simply the wildlife trust and conservation organisations being part of managing offsets, you've gotta sort the legal framework out before that happens."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Will there be an incentive for more conservation to be outsourced to the private sector if they can undercut the well recognised conservation organisations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Businesses cropping up to carrying out offsetting rather than just being the broker? I didn't get a feeling as to how people thought about that. It might be seen as a high business risk. This is why we need to have checks on biodiversity offsetting sites that actually they are being brought up to the quality required for this number of units and managed through time and not degraded."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think of the emphasis on market based instruments for conservation?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00003:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The government have asked a legal body, looking at law and offsetting land. There might be a law about what you can do with a site between 50-100 years. From an ecological perspective, you need to have at least a 100 year agreement in order to bring it up to this standard. It is gonna have to be for at least 100 years. When I was speaking to landowners and particularly farmers. If we want to get farmers involved, that would be a real way to provide large areas we want. But farmers work in sort of next year and five year, 10 year cycles. They can't be sure the money from having this offset, that is going to still be viable economically if we want to have people other than simply the wildlife trust and conservation organisations being part of managing offsets, you've gotta sort the legal framework out before that happens."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Will there be an incentive for more conservation to be outsourced to the private sector if they can undercut the well recognised conservation organisations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Businesses cropping up to carrying out offsetting rather than just being the broker? I didn't get a feeling as to how people thought about that. It might be seen as a high business risk. This is why we need to have checks on biodiversity offsetting sites that actually they are being brought up to the quality required for this number of units and managed through time and not degraded."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think of the emphasis on market based instruments for conservation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From a pragmatic point of view we do need to embrace them, as a tool to get people to see the hidden value of nature and the ecosystem services we get from nature, because at the moment, a lot of the time in decision making, I get the feeling within government, conservation is an added extra thing that you tack on the side. The current coalition said what's good for business is good for the environment, vice versa. I'm not sure that attitude has run deep yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How should we use the numbers? As a tool for agenda building or to guide policy"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00000:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.690774402044852, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I would say… since 2015, then when I had my first, let's say, leadership role in (the company), as head of risk management,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, I'm guessing this will be the tenure within the organization as well. So we can count it from 2015. Right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yes. At the Company, I was since 2014. But since 2015, then or actually (paused for recollection) it was 2016. May 2016. Yeah, May 2016. Yep."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yep. We'll adjust that. It's no problem. Team members that were included in the quantitative study was 6, if I remember correctly, correct. Yeah. And what would you say was the biggest challenge during implementation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was definitely keeping the colleagues motivated, keeping them going. So to say, after we announced that this change is coming, that they would not drop either drop there, you know, things and not show any dedication to work anymore, or leave the organization completely. So this was something that was a big worry for the Company, but also for me personally. And then on the other side. It was also, you know, how you (uhmm) how this project (of change) will impact them personally. So how can we ensure that they will not (uhm...) That the we will have the outcome that will, to the least extent affect them negatively, personally. So that was, at least from my perspective, the biggest challenge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that's great. Then, if we could kind of observe your organizational change project as a story. What would you say were the key elements and I'm gonna do a quick round of question, you just do a quick answer. So it's like, who was the protagonist"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00000:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 19.656416002272056, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yes. At the Company, I was since 2014. But since 2015, then or actually (paused for recollection) it was 2016. May 2016. Yeah, May 2016. Yep."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yep. We'll adjust that. It's no problem. Team members that were included in the quantitative study was 6, if I remember correctly, correct. Yeah. And what would you say was the biggest challenge during implementation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was definitely keeping the colleagues motivated, keeping them going. So to say, after we announced that this change is coming, that they would not drop either drop there, you know, things and not show any dedication to work anymore, or leave the organization completely. So this was something that was a big worry for the Company, but also for me personally. And then on the other side. It was also, you know, how you (uhmm) how this project (of change) will impact them personally. So how can we ensure that they will not (uhm...) That the we will have the outcome that will, to the least extent affect them negatively, personally. So that was, at least from my perspective, the biggest challenge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that's great. Then, if we could kind of observe your organizational change project as a story. What would you say were the key elements and I'm gonna do a quick round of question, you just do a quick answer. So it's like, who was the protagonist"}, {"role": "user", "content": "so in this case, does it need to be a person?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It doesn't have to, it's up to you, you know, maybe your protagonist was a team, maybe it was the organization, maybe it was some individual."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00000:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 20.729351113635616, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was definitely keeping the colleagues motivated, keeping them going. So to say, after we announced that this change is coming, that they would not drop either drop there, you know, things and not show any dedication to work anymore, or leave the organization completely. So this was something that was a big worry for the Company, but also for me personally. And then on the other side. It was also, you know, how you (uhmm) how this project (of change) will impact them personally. So how can we ensure that they will not (uhm...) That the we will have the outcome that will, to the least extent affect them negatively, personally. So that was, at least from my perspective, the biggest challenge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that's great. Then, if we could kind of observe your organizational change project as a story. What would you say were the key elements and I'm gonna do a quick round of question, you just do a quick answer. So it's like, who was the protagonist"}, {"role": "user", "content": "so in this case, does it need to be a person?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It doesn't have to, it's up to you, you know, maybe your protagonist was a team, maybe it was the organization, maybe it was some individual."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, the protagonist that I would see here was the Company, (or more precisely) private, individual business in Country. And because this is the organization that was going through this major change, and I was, as a general manager responsible are at least held responsible, definitely for the whole organization. So that's, that's (uhhm) why I would say that the protagonist here was the whole organization, not only this core team."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "who would you say, was the antagonist? So like, the bad guy of the story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00000:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 21.921501237372905, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "so in this case, does it need to be a person?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It doesn't have to, it's up to you, you know, maybe your protagonist was a team, maybe it was the organization, maybe it was some individual."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, the protagonist that I would see here was the Company, (or more precisely) private, individual business in Country. And because this is the organization that was going through this major change, and I was, as a general manager responsible are at least held responsible, definitely for the whole organization. So that's, that's (uhhm) why I would say that the protagonist here was the whole organization, not only this core team."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "who would you say, was the antagonist? So like, the bad guy of the story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The bad guy of the story, would then be (uhm…) you know, the pressure from the owners of the Company and automate this change, we would need to sell the business or run the business off. Because we were not significant enough on a global level, and the Company decided to focus only on the core markets. So the antagonist in this sense, would be the expected... (uhm…) expectation or the owners and their expectations. I found it in this story, that that was the antagonist, they were trying to impose this change on their organization that nobody wanted to see. But it was coming from… from the owners. It was not the management itself. So nothing, not only the Organization's management in the head office, because they were also only doing what the owners, more specifically the shareholders wanted to see."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you say was the inciting moment that triggered this change?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00000:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 28.421313210000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was also something that was... (uhh...) with us throughout this change process, you know, and it was also something where I, as general manager had to convey this message to other colleagues, you know, in find the right balance, let's say... Not to be fully on the (other) side, saying: \"Oh, this is makes no sense\". This is something I'm still, you know, responsible for this realization you need to do and execute what was asked of me, but still to find the right balance and how you communicate it in a sense that you don't say: \"Yeah, this needs to be done, because then that's only these points..\", but also, not only on the other side, saying :\"Yeah, this makes no sense. Let's not do it\"... because it needed to be executed, you know, so you needed to keep the colleagues motivated, you need to do just accept the decision, because it cannot be reverted. And then make the best out of this decision that what you can make and keep the team as stable as possible. So that was the goal. Actually, that at least in my head was set the minute I found out about what's coming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let's just do the quick round of these short, you know, kind of quick draw questions. What would you say is the general of this change story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thriller... Maybe Drama Thriller."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's great. And what would you say was the main moral of the story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, with the right team you can move mountains, nothing is impossible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the most frequently used metaphor, during your interactions with the team on this change project?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00000:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 31.579236900000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thriller... Maybe Drama Thriller."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's great. And what would you say was the main moral of the story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, with the right team you can move mountains, nothing is impossible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the most frequently used metaphor, during your interactions with the team on this change project?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That, that... that... that... that.. (seeking words) I meant with, you know, nothing being impossible, you know, and they can achieve anything, and we can achieve anything. Together, we will be moving, and making sure that we get the best out of this situation, do what we can. So still focusing, not on the problem, not on this, you know, dark side of what might be coming, but rather on what positive outcomes we can get out of this, that we have a great team as not only in the risk domain, but as a Company, we have a lot of talent here. We have a great products, a great core banking system, you know, many assets that will be extremely valuable to another organization. And let's try to make this success story at the end of the day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you talk me through an anecdote which will demonstrate how to how did these change recipients behave before you started to change? You know, when they had no previous knowledge of upcoming organizational change?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00000:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 29, "return_to_go": 35.088041000000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, with the right team you can move mountains, nothing is impossible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the most frequently used metaphor, during your interactions with the team on this change project?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That, that... that... that... that.. (seeking words) I meant with, you know, nothing being impossible, you know, and they can achieve anything, and we can achieve anything. Together, we will be moving, and making sure that we get the best out of this situation, do what we can. So still focusing, not on the problem, not on this, you know, dark side of what might be coming, but rather on what positive outcomes we can get out of this, that we have a great team as not only in the risk domain, but as a Company, we have a lot of talent here. We have a great products, a great core banking system, you know, many assets that will be extremely valuable to another organization. And let's try to make this success story at the end of the day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you talk me through an anecdote which will demonstrate how to how did these change recipients behave before you started to change? You know, when they had no previous knowledge of upcoming organizational change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, so I would say we were, well you know, lubricated machine like me here locomotive, you know, running smoothly, whenever there's a obstacle, you know, the tracks... (uhh..) It, it's removed without any significant issues, if there's turns to take, the turns are made with whatever direction the train needs to move, it became extremely strong, heavy, we could move with the ever increasing speeds carry more burden with us so to say. And it was just a pleasure working this piece of machinery, you know, moving and running so smoothly. So that was how the situation was before announcement,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "W already touched a little bit upon the, the inciting moment and how these things started moving around. What I would ask you to kind of recollect for the purpose of this research, is how did you articulate this awakening moment where the organizational change was formally initiated? What would you say were the key elements of your speech?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.8139432795059145, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you have any questions for me before we get started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think so. OK, good So."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "30."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what's your job?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.682159199451016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think so. OK, good So."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "30."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what's your job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am a nurse practitioner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of unit?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.484147159816068, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am a nurse practitioner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of unit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So during COVID, I was working in outpatient radiation oncology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And now."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm just home with my baby. Now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was that your only job?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.53794128868452, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So during COVID, I was working in outpatient radiation oncology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And now."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm just home with my baby. Now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was that your only job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During the pandemic? Yes. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a lot of immunocompromised patients then?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 11.70882365409391, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm just home with my baby. Now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was that your only job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During the pandemic? Yes. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a lot of immunocompromised patients then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so can you tell me about when you first heard about COVID?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.329406575360324, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yeah. So and I want to say I feel like we were shutting things down earlier than other or maybe it was like smoking. So the medical center in [city] is like it's the biggest medical center in the country. So there's like a bunch of hospitals like all in the same place. I think that they were all sort of adopting similar policies at the same time.\n\nBut it felt a little bit early. Like my friends who are nurses in other states, it seemed like we were kind of like adopting some of those measures on the earlier side. But honestly, it was probably just like days, right, because things were changing so fast. But I do think it was a little earlier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He’s cute. He?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's a boy. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hey, little man. Hello."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He might just stare at the screen. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, maybe he can find himself on the screen."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.143785083733693, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's a boy. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hey, little man. Hello."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He might just stare at the screen. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, maybe he can find himself on the screen."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right? Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hey little man. He’s adorable. Those eyes! But you would have heard. I mean, you heard about it from podcasts. I mean, that would’ve been in late January, right?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.937538981926326, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He might just stare at the screen. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, maybe he can find himself on the screen."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right? Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hey little man. He’s adorable. Those eyes! But you would have heard. I mean, you heard about it from podcasts. I mean, that would’ve been in late January, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like, I'm trying to think like it would have been whenever it was sort of like breaking. Like, there's this virus in China. It seems to be really severe. So maybe it was February, you know, like, it's it's kind of hard for me to remember exactly when that was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The month the lockdown in China was on the 22nd."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.597265535473696, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right? Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hey little man. He’s adorable. Those eyes! But you would have heard. I mean, you heard about it from podcasts. I mean, that would’ve been in late January, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like, I'm trying to think like it would have been whenever it was sort of like breaking. Like, there's this virus in China. It seems to be really severe. So maybe it was February, you know, like, it's it's kind of hard for me to remember exactly when that was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The month the lockdown in China was on the 22nd."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Okay. So then maybe it was then. Yeah, I have like I feel like, you know, the last couple of years have felt like decades. So it's hard for me to, but I was like, I would, I was paying attention, I would say. So I think whenever it was, if they were in lockdown, that would have been like when I was first aware of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. I mean, it doesn't need to be that exact."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.330295039415217, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "like, I'm trying to think like it would have been whenever it was sort of like breaking. Like, there's this virus in China. It seems to be really severe. So maybe it was February, you know, like, it's it's kind of hard for me to remember exactly when that was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The month the lockdown in China was on the 22nd."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Okay. So then maybe it was then. Yeah, I have like I feel like, you know, the last couple of years have felt like decades. So it's hard for me to, but I was like, I would, I was paying attention, I would say. So I think whenever it was, if they were in lockdown, that would have been like when I was first aware of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. I mean, it doesn't need to be that exact."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me about your your initial thoughts?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.144772266016908, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Okay. So then maybe it was then. Yeah, I have like I feel like, you know, the last couple of years have felt like decades. So it's hard for me to, but I was like, I would, I was paying attention, I would say. So I think whenever it was, if they were in lockdown, that would have been like when I was first aware of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. I mean, it doesn't need to be that exact."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me about your your initial thoughts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. So I think initially I was like, China is so far away and they've had virus outbreaks before, and we will we will be fine. Like, that's, that's so far that was my initial reaction. Like, I was not concerned at all when I first heard about it.\n\nWhen the hospitals started making measures, though I think I started to get a lot more concerned when they were like, no more meetings and shutting down the employee gym and stuff because that was before like kind of the whole country shut down you know? But that's sort of I started to get concerned then."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there any any change between those two points."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.049746962241008, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me about your your initial thoughts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. So I think initially I was like, China is so far away and they've had virus outbreaks before, and we will we will be fine. Like, that's, that's so far that was my initial reaction. Like, I was not concerned at all when I first heard about it.\n\nWhen the hospitals started making measures, though I think I started to get a lot more concerned when they were like, no more meetings and shutting down the employee gym and stuff because that was before like kind of the whole country shut down you know? But that's sort of I started to get concerned then."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there any any change between those two points."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Plus with like hospital protocols or?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With like how concerned you were, or scared, or curious."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.055274402490008, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. So I think initially I was like, China is so far away and they've had virus outbreaks before, and we will we will be fine. Like, that's, that's so far that was my initial reaction. Like, I was not concerned at all when I first heard about it.\n\nWhen the hospitals started making measures, though I think I started to get a lot more concerned when they were like, no more meetings and shutting down the employee gym and stuff because that was before like kind of the whole country shut down you know? But that's sort of I started to get concerned then."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there any any change between those two points."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Plus with like hospital protocols or?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With like how concerned you were, or scared, or curious."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I mean, I think so. I also I worked in head and neck radiation oncology, which means that every patient I was looking in their mouth, we would do like the flexible nasal laryngoscopy used to like we were like in in people's head and neck area. So we were also like identified as a high risk area. So I think that once people started getting more concerned, less, you I it was definitely scarier because you have to weigh like doing what's best for your patient, which is like assessing their pharynx but also like we didn't really understand like how lethal it was going to be so that was Yeah, that was that was kind of scary."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think What kind of conversations did you have about this?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 11.324107547997267, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The time like with my coworkers?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think we were all so I think that there's a lot of like faith in our institution. I think I felt and my coworkers kind of felt like we could trust the hospital leadership, like they were going to do what they needed to do. And it was just kind of like this sit tight and like let them figure it out kind of thing.\n\nLike, I think I mentioned, like, when they first made some measures, like no meetings, closing the gym, I think, or at least I was kind of like, I don't know, like that seems kind of kind of like a lot. But then just a couple of days passed, right? And the the cases were just like exploding like all across Europe and stuff.\n\nAnd so I think then my attitude kind of changed about it. But yeah, kind of just waiting to see what the hospital was going to have us do. Um, and I have to say, like, I do feel like they acted appropriately, kind of like every step of the way. Like I, I do feel like my health was prioritized.\n\nIt was hard. It was really hard. Like I mentioned, all of these things that got put into place, like restricting patient movement and stuff. But I do think that they were making the right calls Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in the months between when you heard of it for the first time and then once the hospital started being more strict and making it more real for you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you just talk about how you felt in that time period?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.985074756892647, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Before the wave hit, like when the lockdowns started. Yeah. Before that, yeah. Yeah, for sure. I yes, I remember like the weekend. So the meetings had had stopped and the employee gym had been closed, like they made those announcements and then the weekend before everything is shut down, I went to New Orleans for a bachelorette party and I remember being there and the streets were kind of empty, but I remember like being in bars and stuff and I was like, Is this safe?\n\nWhich is never something that would have crossed my mind before, right? Like, ever, ever. Like, you're at a bar. You're not like people are carrying viruses all the time, but you don't think about that when you're going out but I remember like being a little bit concerned about that, and that was like the weekend before. All of the lockdowns were not just oh my goodness, I'm just going to stand up.\n\nI can keep talking, but gets bored easily."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You could also turn the camera off if you want. It's not an issue."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. I don't think if anything, I think she likes looking at the camera lens to feel like an adult."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hey little man. You got an opinion about COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He’s a COVID baby, obviously. Well, yup."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, actually. So some of my friends had a COVID baby, and you know how Corona is crown in Spanish? So I tried to get them to name their baby Keter, which is crown in Hebrew. But they didn’t bite."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.983416396547385, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. I don't think if anything, I think she likes looking at the camera lens to feel like an adult."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hey little man. You got an opinion about COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He’s a COVID baby, obviously. Well, yup."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, actually. So some of my friends had a COVID baby, and you know how Corona is crown in Spanish? So I tried to get them to name their baby Keter, which is crown in Hebrew. But they didn’t bite."}, {"role": "user", "content": "khkhkh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The initials would have been KGB, too."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.09268488505265, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He’s a COVID baby, obviously. Well, yup."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, actually. So some of my friends had a COVID baby, and you know how Corona is crown in Spanish? So I tried to get them to name their baby Keter, which is crown in Hebrew. But they didn’t bite."}, {"role": "user", "content": "khkhkh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The initials would have been KGB, too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, baby."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If it was, it would have been OK. It was like a year or two ago."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 12.325205427836277, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "khkhkh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The initials would have been KGB, too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, baby."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If it was, it would have been OK. It was like a year or two ago."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They weren’t biting. Um, OK, so you may have just answered this, but did you have a eureka moment when you realized how bad it would be?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.456967806090001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I was I was just talking to him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the- you said the hospital saw this coming kind of and prepared?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was kind of like that's what I heard like they were seeing what was going on in Wuhan and they were like and we're I think we benefit that we're large enough that it's like if we buy thousands of N95, even if it's overkill, we will probably use most of them or like we're a large enough institution that like we had the capital that they could do that because obviously it's really expensive.\n\nBut yeah, the sort of like rumor, I guess because I didn't hear from like the mouths of the administration, but the rumor I heard was that they were sort of paying close attention and like made a decision on an administrative level to like buy tons of masks and face shields and all that kind of stuff. And like we never experienced any shortages, which is kind of incredible.\n\nI feel like it doesn't stop. I mean, especially my friends who are working in [...]. It sounded like it was horrible, like, you know, just a disaster with PPE. Um, so we felt really fortunate for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think you had I mean, not that it matters for PPE shortage, but if you did have an extra few weeks before the wave hit you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we did. Right, right. Yeah. So we were just sort of like watching what was happening in, like, New York mostly. Just like, oh, god. Yeah. So I think by the time it hit [...], as a whole, people were taking it more seriously because we had already seen what was happening in New York, but we were not like phase one in New York or in the US, you know?\n\nSo you didn't really have to like convince people at that point, I think, to take it seriously."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your patients."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.267861489000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we did. Right, right. Yeah. So we were just sort of like watching what was happening in, like, New York mostly. Just like, oh, god. Yeah. So I think by the time it hit [...], as a whole, people were taking it more seriously because we had already seen what was happening in New York, but we were not like phase one in New York or in the US, you know?\n\nSo you didn't really have to like convince people at that point, I think, to take it seriously."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your patients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I you know, it's funny because I was in [city], like you wonder sort of like what the reaction was were of the people there. I would say the large majority of the patients were like completely on board with definitely wearing masks and stuff. But I think that's because they all have cancer. And so even if their politics is different, their own like self-preservation, I think was like for myself, I need to do this. rtpar\n\nI think people's biggest complaints was not being able to have a support person there with them. That was really hard for people you could only have one in special circumstances, like patients who had like cognitive or like memory issues or children obviously so we got pushback with that. You and some pushback with like the quarantine stuff, like, oh, you're coming here from Arkansas, like, yes, you have to quarantine for 14 days before you can come here.\n\nThat was really hard for people to understandably right? Like they get it. But it was it was hard. I think overall people handled it really well considering everybody trying to come here like is seriously ill. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was that was this hospital policy or was this just your clinic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Hospital policy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so they they prepared they got, they procured these N95s as far as information sharing goes. Were there any they said you said they nixed meetings, but were there any like discussions or email blasts or especially in like February, like telling you what was going to happen."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.034396900000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Hospital policy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so they they prepared they got, they procured these N95s as far as information sharing goes. Were there any they said you said they nixed meetings, but were there any like discussions or email blasts or especially in like February, like telling you what was going to happen."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So February? I want to say we were getting periodic communication. Um, from upper leadership in the form of emails being like, yes, we're aware this is going on and we're paying attention like stay tuned for changes. And so there was that. And then there were also things that were information. It was disseminated from your direct supervisor. So like, you know, the unit's nurse manager would like have things to tell the nurses or like the APP supervisor would like had things to tell like me and other APPS.\n\nBut I think so yes, there was communication. I don't remember how frequently it was though. I think it just it slowly got like more and more frequent kind of like. Yes, we’re monitoring this. Once they started making changes though, because at some point it must have maybe it didn't happen till that first day of lockdown. There was daily communication where like all the hospital leadership meets, they looked at like the total numbers of COVID positive patients, the amount of ICU beds we had, like the vents we had like all of that.\n\nAnd they would like send it out every day as well as like changes, links to PowerPoint slides for like charting things that, you know, like all that kind of stuff. But but before, yes, there was communication. It was not daily though. definitely not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And and when when they changed this policy, when they said, OK, no more, now you have to quarantine 14 days now or now no more visitors."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was what was your what was your reaction to that?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wish that they had found a way to make having a support person safe. We had enough masks giving people bad news, bad cancer news, and then they're crying by themselves in their room is like horrible I don't think anybody should have to go through that. So so I wish that there like I said, I don't even know that I had the solution right, because any extra body was extra risk.\n\nBut I mean, we, I had those visits where somebody is just bawling and they're alone. And I just and that was that was really hard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So anything you would have done differently personally as an individual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not as in not as like a nurse as an individual."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I think I think we my husband and I handled everything very like we handled it really seriously, you know, like we didn't meet with people. We kind of like we're always following the most up to date guidance. We cancelled our wedding or no, we got married, but just with six people there. But yes and no, I think I mean, knock on wood, to this day, neither one of us has gotten covid.\n\nSo, no, I don't think we would have done anything different. So, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else would you like to tell me about the way you felt in early 2020."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not as in not as like a nurse as an individual."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I think I think we my husband and I handled everything very like we handled it really seriously, you know, like we didn't meet with people. We kind of like we're always following the most up to date guidance. We cancelled our wedding or no, we got married, but just with six people there. But yes and no, I think I mean, knock on wood, to this day, neither one of us has gotten covid.\n\nSo, no, I don't think we would have done anything different. So, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else would you like to tell me about the way you felt in early 2020."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I guess uh… I think initially when everybody was really on the same page early on during the lockdowns I think there was like a lot of camaraderie with, like on the units. And I think we felt like important you know, like the public like supported us.\n\nAnd I think that was kind of like a brief window of time before things really started to like devolve the rhetoric got really nasty, but there was a small window of time where that was really nice. It was like, OK, we all have to be here and we don't know what's going on, but like we're in this together kind of thing.\n\nAnd so that was, that was nice. And when things got harder that got harder. Yeah. Just feeling like you were having to fight against like so much misinformation. More so in my personal life, I guess. Like, it was almost like offensive, you know, like when people weren't taking it seriously and it's like, you know, for, like, my patients who are immunocompromised, you know, like, that's offensive to them that you would like not take something like this seriously."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Two more. What do you think I should have asked that I didn't."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00014:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I think I think we my husband and I handled everything very like we handled it really seriously, you know, like we didn't meet with people. We kind of like we're always following the most up to date guidance. We cancelled our wedding or no, we got married, but just with six people there. But yes and no, I think I mean, knock on wood, to this day, neither one of us has gotten covid.\n\nSo, no, I don't think we would have done anything different. So, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else would you like to tell me about the way you felt in early 2020."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I guess uh… I think initially when everybody was really on the same page early on during the lockdowns I think there was like a lot of camaraderie with, like on the units. And I think we felt like important you know, like the public like supported us.\n\nAnd I think that was kind of like a brief window of time before things really started to like devolve the rhetoric got really nasty, but there was a small window of time where that was really nice. It was like, OK, we all have to be here and we don't know what's going on, but like we're in this together kind of thing.\n\nAnd so that was, that was nice. And when things got harder that got harder. Yeah. Just feeling like you were having to fight against like so much misinformation. More so in my personal life, I guess. Like, it was almost like offensive, you know, like when people weren't taking it seriously and it's like, you know, for, like, my patients who are immunocompromised, you know, like, that's offensive to them that you would like not take something like this seriously."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Two more. What do you think I should have asked that I didn't."}, {"role": "user", "content": "About the early pandemic. I can't think of anything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what else would you like to tell me? Yeah he's hungry, so I’ll let you go."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4032780620935126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we are ready."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Our discussion will be divided into different sections and we are going to have almost 5 sections and those sections are; reasons/causes for the change on food intake to the Maasai community and other people in the community, the importance of drinking /using milk to Maasai community, why drinking animal blood, what kind of food that is mostly used to your community during ceremonies?, and last we a going to discuss about training, education and information concerning nutrition and health and what types of food can be used for the good health.\n\nfirst section: Reasons /causes for the change on food intake to the community. We all know that there are a lot of changes on food intake or the kind of food that is consumed by people the community, and this also takes part in the Maasai society, in the past the kind of food that were mostly consumed by maasai was only milk and meat and somehow ugali, but now we see that maasai eat different kind of food like chips, chicken, vegetable, cassava and so many kind of food, never the less even the way of preparing those food differ from then and now for example how were you preparing meat in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is very true, in the past we were just cutting the meat into pieces then we just boil the meat with additional of salt and when it’s done thus is it,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok thus nice, so what about now, how do you prepare meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now it is different from past the process of preparing meat can be just boil meat as soup but with additional of carrot and potato, or we boil and then roast to get the source with tomato, also we sometime grill and we can do a fried meat with oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me what the causes of those changes are?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5591978467705696, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is very true, in the past we were just cutting the meat into pieces then we just boil the meat with additional of salt and when it’s done thus is it,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok thus nice, so what about now, how do you prepare meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now it is different from past the process of preparing meat can be just boil meat as soup but with additional of carrot and potato, or we boil and then roast to get the source with tomato, also we sometime grill and we can do a fried meat with oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me what the causes of those changes are?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Development."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you please elaborate what do you mean by saying development is the reason for the changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7324420519672996, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now it is different from past the process of preparing meat can be just boil meat as soup but with additional of carrot and potato, or we boil and then roast to get the source with tomato, also we sometime grill and we can do a fried meat with oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me what the causes of those changes are?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Development."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you please elaborate what do you mean by saying development is the reason for the changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now we have been developed we don’t eat and cook like before this is because we meet and associate with different people and get to see and learn how to prepare food in the way others do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you meet new people and learn how they prepare their meal?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9249356132969995, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Development."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you please elaborate what do you mean by saying development is the reason for the changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now we have been developed we don’t eat and cook like before this is because we meet and associate with different people and get to see and learn how to prepare food in the way others do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you meet new people and learn how they prepare their meal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We usually go to the different meetings that are prepared by village members to know one another and also, we meet people in the ceremonies where we get to eat new food and we learn how they prepare them and so we take that new education and practise at our home, or some times when we visit one another we ask other people how they cook their meal so as we can go home and cook the same way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the other reasons for those changes in food intake?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.027706236996666, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now we have been developed we don’t eat and cook like before this is because we meet and associate with different people and get to see and learn how to prepare food in the way others do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you meet new people and learn how they prepare their meal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We usually go to the different meetings that are prepared by village members to know one another and also, we meet people in the ceremonies where we get to eat new food and we learn how they prepare them and so we take that new education and practise at our home, or some times when we visit one another we ask other people how they cook their meal so as we can go home and cook the same way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the other reasons for those changes in food intake?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education; our children go to school and associate with different tribe, as we all know the only place where children spend and learn a lot of things is at school, besides teaching other things they also teach how to cook different food and so our kids learn and when they get back home they bring those new skills at home.\n\nMixed up with people from different tribes influences food changes, this is due to education and different skills that we share from one another, the way we cook, the food that we eat education on what is good for the health and so many.\n\nAnother issue or reason is weather change, this is one of the main effect on food change as during summer there is luck of grasses for feeding cow so due to that even availability of milk become very low and this is the reason why we had to find other kind of food to eat during those seasons and for that case milk is no longer food it cannot be enough without other food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from all those reasons you mentioned which is, education, development. Mixed up, weather change, let’s talk about means of cooking, what kind of cooking energy that you are using and how do you obtain them? And when we say energy we mean charcoal, gas and firewood. And does cooking a certain type of food depends with the cooking energy available?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7404295364810003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For now there is no any business to do, a lot of livestock are dying due to diseases and drought so we find ourselves in a very difficult situation as food is scarce as well as milk so this situation makes us eat what is available at the market and that is cheap and affordable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about change in price of food, does that affect the kind of food you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes of course price change has a very big effect on the issue of what we eat, it is a normal situation that when the price of a certain food perhaps rice goes down we will all eat rice but when the price of rice goes up we will then find an alternative which will be cheaper and affordable. E.g. vegetable, cassava, or potatoes.\n\nAnd sometimes when the price of food goes high we decide to grow some of the food ourselves e.g. maize and other small things for the home use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of availability of different kind of food in the market, as you have said earlier that before you had no much food even in the market thus why you were eating milk and meat, but now due to the development and the mixed up of different tribe now people are moving from one place to another and bring business like foods that means now in your market you have variety of food, does this cause the change in food intake in your society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To us there are some food which are not available in the market at all and even when they are sometimes available they are very expensive in order to get them then we have to go to another village a bit distance from ours to buy and again in a high price, e.g. of those are rice and maize and this also is the reason why we decide to grow some for our own."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any kind of food in your community that most people don’t use and for those few who are consuming them others are so surprised by them? and if yes does this affect those who are eating to stop and find something else to eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9338105960900003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes of course price change has a very big effect on the issue of what we eat, it is a normal situation that when the price of a certain food perhaps rice goes down we will all eat rice but when the price of rice goes up we will then find an alternative which will be cheaper and affordable. E.g. vegetable, cassava, or potatoes.\n\nAnd sometimes when the price of food goes high we decide to grow some of the food ourselves e.g. maize and other small things for the home use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of availability of different kind of food in the market, as you have said earlier that before you had no much food even in the market thus why you were eating milk and meat, but now due to the development and the mixed up of different tribe now people are moving from one place to another and bring business like foods that means now in your market you have variety of food, does this cause the change in food intake in your society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To us there are some food which are not available in the market at all and even when they are sometimes available they are very expensive in order to get them then we have to go to another village a bit distance from ours to buy and again in a high price, e.g. of those are rice and maize and this also is the reason why we decide to grow some for our own."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any kind of food in your community that most people don’t use and for those few who are consuming them others are so surprised by them? and if yes does this affect those who are eating to stop and find something else to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, food like stiff porridge made using cassava flour, most of us we don’t eat, this does not stop those who are eating to keep eating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food that when you eat others see you like you are well off?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1486784401000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To us there are some food which are not available in the market at all and even when they are sometimes available they are very expensive in order to get them then we have to go to another village a bit distance from ours to buy and again in a high price, e.g. of those are rice and maize and this also is the reason why we decide to grow some for our own."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any kind of food in your community that most people don’t use and for those few who are consuming them others are so surprised by them? and if yes does this affect those who are eating to stop and find something else to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, food like stiff porridge made using cassava flour, most of us we don’t eat, this does not stop those who are eating to keep eating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food that when you eat others see you like you are well off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To that matter it depends with an individual with what they like as some people don’t like ugali some like or rice, but to most of the people are feeling special when they eat rice, and this is because rice is expensive compare to other kind of food that are affordable and also only few people can afford buying rice for the family. But also, when others eat stiff porridge they like as it is health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so due to this does it brings / cause any change on food intake?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.387420489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, food like stiff porridge made using cassava flour, most of us we don’t eat, this does not stop those who are eating to keep eating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of food that when you eat others see you like you are well off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To that matter it depends with an individual with what they like as some people don’t like ugali some like or rice, but to most of the people are feeling special when they eat rice, and this is because rice is expensive compare to other kind of food that are affordable and also only few people can afford buying rice for the family. But also, when others eat stiff porridge they like as it is health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so due to this does it brings / cause any change on food intake?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but to very few, as most of us we just like stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among those things that causes the change on food intake, that you have mentioned what are the top three things which have higher effect on the change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To that matter it depends with an individual with what they like as some people don’t like ugali some like or rice, but to most of the people are feeling special when they eat rice, and this is because rice is expensive compare to other kind of food that are affordable and also only few people can afford buying rice for the family. But also, when others eat stiff porridge they like as it is health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so due to this does it brings / cause any change on food intake?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but to very few, as most of us we just like stiff porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among those things that causes the change on food intake, that you have mentioned what are the top three things which have higher effect on the change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First thing is development, this is because every day in our life there are new development, people move from one place to another and somehow even the way of living changes from time to time including what people eat.\n\nSecond factor that contributes a lot to the change of food intake is mixed up of Maasai with other tribes\n\nThis also contributes a lot to the change because when people mixed up they bring their culture with them and exchange with others and food is one of those culture, so this makes us eat different food from different tribe\n\nAnd the third one that contributes to change is draught. when there is no rain nothing grows. Second section of our discussion concern milk, so can you tell me the importance of milk to Maasai people?\n\nTo us Milk is medicine when you have Malaria when you drink enough milk you get better even without taking malaria medicine,\n\nalso milk is good for the healthy body, when you miss milk your body gets weak and thin and when your thin you feel dizzy and you cannot perform any duty effectively, so milk gives energy to the body.\n\nAlso, milk has cream which is used as a medicine as well as cooking oil, another advantage of milk is that it is food when you have enough milk you don’t need to eat other kind of foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is milk the same comparing to other kind of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No milk is far away different from other food and this is because in the past milk was used as food, we were drinking milk withought eating anything else more over milk is used as medicine and oil.\n\nmilk was being prepared by adding onion and a bit of maize flour and used as a heavy food, this food is called Kididio or Mboga saji.\n\nbut one thing now milk is not enough to be used as food alone. I think this is due to decrease in availability of milk due to draught as well as death of many cow because of diseases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When comparing the importance of milk in the past and now, is it the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No in the past milk was very important but now not that much because in the past milk was a complete food itself but now milk is just used as a drink after food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but why now milk is not as important as it was in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think because it’s not enough to be used as food alone and also now we are used to other types of food\n\nAlso, I think the availability of other food makes milk less important"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have heard from the society that now availability of milk is very low, so can you tell me why milk is very low now compare to the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No in the past milk was very important but now not that much because in the past milk was a complete food itself but now milk is just used as a drink after food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "but why now milk is not as important as it was in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think because it’s not enough to be used as food alone and also now we are used to other types of food\n\nAlso, I think the availability of other food makes milk less important"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have heard from the society that now availability of milk is very low, so can you tell me why milk is very low now compare to the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "now we have very few cows (livestock)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why is there few cows?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think because it’s not enough to be used as food alone and also now we are used to other types of food\n\nAlso, I think the availability of other food makes milk less important"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have heard from the society that now availability of milk is very low, so can you tell me why milk is very low now compare to the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "now we have very few cows (livestock)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why is there few cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During summer a lot dies due to lack of pasture because rain is very few another thing is there are eruption of animal diseases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about farming system, did it also affect the availability of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "now we have very few cows (livestock)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why is there few cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "During summer a lot dies due to lack of pasture because rain is very few another thing is there are eruption of animal diseases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about farming system, did it also affect the availability of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it does affect the availability of milk as for now where we live we have not more than 3 cows as it become more of human habitat, so we cannot have many cattle, so most of them a staying far away into the forest so as they can get feeding leaves, and this is the reason why we have few milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen that most of the changes are brought by our children from school where they meet others from different tribes and learn to adopt their ways of living so do this affect anyhow change in the availability of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "During summer a lot dies due to lack of pasture because rain is very few another thing is there are eruption of animal diseases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about farming system, did it also affect the availability of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it does affect the availability of milk as for now where we live we have not more than 3 cows as it become more of human habitat, so we cannot have many cattle, so most of them a staying far away into the forest so as they can get feeding leaves, and this is the reason why we have few milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen that most of the changes are brought by our children from school where they meet others from different tribes and learn to adopt their ways of living so do this affect anyhow change in the availability of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, most of the children when they get back from school they don’t want to involve themselves into taking care of the livestock, and this is due to the fact that taking care of livestock is a very difficulty duty so they prefer to find some easy work like having a shop, and that cause the availability of milk to be low."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Conflicts between farmers and pastoralists can you explain to me how do this contribute to the availability of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it does affect the availability of milk as for now where we live we have not more than 3 cows as it become more of human habitat, so we cannot have many cattle, so most of them a staying far away into the forest so as they can get feeding leaves, and this is the reason why we have few milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen that most of the changes are brought by our children from school where they meet others from different tribes and learn to adopt their ways of living so do this affect anyhow change in the availability of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, most of the children when they get back from school they don’t want to involve themselves into taking care of the livestock, and this is due to the fact that taking care of livestock is a very difficulty duty so they prefer to find some easy work like having a shop, and that cause the availability of milk to be low."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Conflicts between farmers and pastoralists can you explain to me how do this contribute to the availability of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When there is no peace in the society its obviously that even animals will be in no peace, they will be running from one place to another they won’t get enough food so even the production of milk will be minimal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is the quality of milk in the past same as the quality of milk now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, most of the children when they get back from school they don’t want to involve themselves into taking care of the livestock, and this is due to the fact that taking care of livestock is a very difficulty duty so they prefer to find some easy work like having a shop, and that cause the availability of milk to be low."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Conflicts between farmers and pastoralists can you explain to me how do this contribute to the availability of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When there is no peace in the society its obviously that even animals will be in no peace, they will be running from one place to another they won’t get enough food so even the production of milk will be minimal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is the quality of milk in the past same as the quality of milk now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the quality of milk in the past differ from that of now, Milk now has a lot of water than cream and this is because in the past there were no animal disease as now, even when a cow gets sick there was no treatment as in now, now everyday there is a new disease that affect livestock, so they get vaccination injection and due to that the quality of milk become bad as time goes by.\n\nAlso, now days cow they don’t get enough and quality food as before so even the production of milk is of no quality\n\nFor that matter we don’t drink a lot of milk as the quality and quantity is minimal, as when a cow get a vaccination you have to wait for 8 days for the medicine to be out of the system so as to get clean milk and for that matter lots of milk is wasted"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among those causes that affect the availability of milk what are the main causes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When there is no peace in the society its obviously that even animals will be in no peace, they will be running from one place to another they won’t get enough food so even the production of milk will be minimal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is the quality of milk in the past same as the quality of milk now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the quality of milk in the past differ from that of now, Milk now has a lot of water than cream and this is because in the past there were no animal disease as now, even when a cow gets sick there was no treatment as in now, now everyday there is a new disease that affect livestock, so they get vaccination injection and due to that the quality of milk become bad as time goes by.\n\nAlso, now days cow they don’t get enough and quality food as before so even the production of milk is of no quality\n\nFor that matter we don’t drink a lot of milk as the quality and quantity is minimal, as when a cow get a vaccination you have to wait for 8 days for the medicine to be out of the system so as to get clean milk and for that matter lots of milk is wasted"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among those causes that affect the availability of milk what are the main causes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first cause is drought all issues counts but when there is no place or grasses for feeding the livestock then life gets even more difficult for the animals and for the owner as lots of animal dies as they don’t get anything to eat also apart from that even if they do get food it’s not enough so even the production of milk is of very low quantity.\n\nthe second issue that bring higher effect on the quality and quantity of milk is Animal diseases, now there is eruption of diseases that cause lots of animal to die and also to be able to produce enough and quality milk as it was before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another issue that we want to know from you is about drinking of animal blood, we know that in the past drinking animal blood was part of Maasai life, so do you keep on drinking animal blood and why?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the quality of milk in the past differ from that of now, Milk now has a lot of water than cream and this is because in the past there were no animal disease as now, even when a cow gets sick there was no treatment as in now, now everyday there is a new disease that affect livestock, so they get vaccination injection and due to that the quality of milk become bad as time goes by.\n\nAlso, now days cow they don’t get enough and quality food as before so even the production of milk is of no quality\n\nFor that matter we don’t drink a lot of milk as the quality and quantity is minimal, as when a cow get a vaccination you have to wait for 8 days for the medicine to be out of the system so as to get clean milk and for that matter lots of milk is wasted"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among those causes that affect the availability of milk what are the main causes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first cause is drought all issues counts but when there is no place or grasses for feeding the livestock then life gets even more difficult for the animals and for the owner as lots of animal dies as they don’t get anything to eat also apart from that even if they do get food it’s not enough so even the production of milk is of very low quantity.\n\nthe second issue that bring higher effect on the quality and quantity of milk is Animal diseases, now there is eruption of diseases that cause lots of animal to die and also to be able to produce enough and quality milk as it was before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another issue that we want to know from you is about drinking of animal blood, we know that in the past drinking animal blood was part of Maasai life, so do you keep on drinking animal blood and why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it’s true in the past we used to drink animal blood as part of our daily life and this was mostly due to culture and believes, it was a believe that animal blood helps to increase blood to the pregnancy women also it was used during spiritual ceremonies as a sacrifice to those who have problems or who needs blessings, but now we no longer believe that, so we don’t drink animal blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is the reason for a change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first cause is drought all issues counts but when there is no place or grasses for feeding the livestock then life gets even more difficult for the animals and for the owner as lots of animal dies as they don’t get anything to eat also apart from that even if they do get food it’s not enough so even the production of milk is of very low quantity.\n\nthe second issue that bring higher effect on the quality and quantity of milk is Animal diseases, now there is eruption of diseases that cause lots of animal to die and also to be able to produce enough and quality milk as it was before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another issue that we want to know from you is about drinking of animal blood, we know that in the past drinking animal blood was part of Maasai life, so do you keep on drinking animal blood and why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it’s true in the past we used to drink animal blood as part of our daily life and this was mostly due to culture and believes, it was a believe that animal blood helps to increase blood to the pregnancy women also it was used during spiritual ceremonies as a sacrifice to those who have problems or who needs blessings, but now we no longer believe that, so we don’t drink animal blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is the reason for a change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Development as our kids go to school they learn also we get to know that diseases affect animal blood as well so when you drink you will be infected as well,\n\nAlso, now we are religious believers and in the church they teach us that drinking blood is not a good thing spiritually thus why we don’t drink anymore."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss about ceremonies food, we want to know in your society once you have a ceremony like wedding or holiday, funeral or a family gathering, what type/kind of food that you prepare?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it’s true in the past we used to drink animal blood as part of our daily life and this was mostly due to culture and believes, it was a believe that animal blood helps to increase blood to the pregnancy women also it was used during spiritual ceremonies as a sacrifice to those who have problems or who needs blessings, but now we no longer believe that, so we don’t drink animal blood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is the reason for a change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Development as our kids go to school they learn also we get to know that diseases affect animal blood as well so when you drink you will be infected as well,\n\nAlso, now we are religious believers and in the church they teach us that drinking blood is not a good thing spiritually thus why we don’t drink anymore."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss about ceremonies food, we want to know in your society once you have a ceremony like wedding or holiday, funeral or a family gathering, what type/kind of food that you prepare?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In case of a ceremony we eat different kind of food, we can say we usually cooks varieties of food, e.g. rice (pilau), potatoes, banana, meat and other. But in the past in case of a ceremony we were eating Makande (a food made by mixing maize and beans), meat and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why a change of food to those events?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Development as our kids go to school they learn also we get to know that diseases affect animal blood as well so when you drink you will be infected as well,\n\nAlso, now we are religious believers and in the church they teach us that drinking blood is not a good thing spiritually thus why we don’t drink anymore."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us discuss about ceremonies food, we want to know in your society once you have a ceremony like wedding or holiday, funeral or a family gathering, what type/kind of food that you prepare?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In case of a ceremony we eat different kind of food, we can say we usually cooks varieties of food, e.g. rice (pilau), potatoes, banana, meat and other. But in the past in case of a ceremony we were eating Makande (a food made by mixing maize and beans), meat and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why a change of food to those events?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "development"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you explain what do development got to do with the change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In case of a ceremony we eat different kind of food, we can say we usually cooks varieties of food, e.g. rice (pilau), potatoes, banana, meat and other. But in the past in case of a ceremony we were eating Makande (a food made by mixing maize and beans), meat and milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why a change of food to those events?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "development"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you explain what do development got to do with the change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get education from others we learn and adopt other tribe’s life, our kids go to school and learn we live with other people we see and adopt thus development."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "oh very well, so is the preparation of those foods the same as before?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "development"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you explain what do development got to do with the change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get education from others we learn and adopt other tribe’s life, our kids go to school and learn we live with other people we see and adopt thus development."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "oh very well, so is the preparation of those foods the same as before?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, example for meat we prepare in different ways some we make soup ,some we fry some we barbeque, and some we roast so as can be used as source to rice, -and the way we cook and what we eat in the events it’s the same as what we eat at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "on our previously discussion that was on February we also talked about the consumption of some part of a cow that not all men and women eat, we said that meat is special for men and for women they eat the insides of a cow, so why is that and is it continue even now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get education from others we learn and adopt other tribe’s life, our kids go to school and learn we live with other people we see and adopt thus development."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "oh very well, so is the preparation of those foods the same as before?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, example for meat we prepare in different ways some we make soup ,some we fry some we barbeque, and some we roast so as can be used as source to rice, -and the way we cook and what we eat in the events it’s the same as what we eat at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "on our previously discussion that was on February we also talked about the consumption of some part of a cow that not all men and women eat, we said that meat is special for men and for women they eat the insides of a cow, so why is that and is it continue even now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes its true but it was just a discrimination there is no a clear explanation to why men has to eat the good meat and women the insides, but now it’s not the same as now we share half ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the effects for the change in food intake to the community, might be negative or positive?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no, example for meat we prepare in different ways some we make soup ,some we fry some we barbeque, and some we roast so as can be used as source to rice, -and the way we cook and what we eat in the events it’s the same as what we eat at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "on our previously discussion that was on February we also talked about the consumption of some part of a cow that not all men and women eat, we said that meat is special for men and for women they eat the insides of a cow, so why is that and is it continue even now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes its true but it was just a discrimination there is no a clear explanation to why men has to eat the good meat and women the insides, but now it’s not the same as now we share half ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the effects for the change in food intake to the community, might be negative or positive?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those changes to us have a good effect as we get to eat nice food as well as health food not like in the past also we eat variety of food and that is a good thing, more over now the food is health and gives us strong body and clear mind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Our last part of discussion is I would like to know how and where to elders get to learn and acquires information concerning nutrition and good health and also the issues about good food here at Kambala village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes its true but it was just a discrimination there is no a clear explanation to why men has to eat the good meat and women the insides, but now it’s not the same as now we share half ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the effects for the change in food intake to the community, might be negative or positive?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those changes to us have a good effect as we get to eat nice food as well as health food not like in the past also we eat variety of food and that is a good thing, more over now the food is health and gives us strong body and clear mind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Our last part of discussion is I would like to know how and where to elders get to learn and acquires information concerning nutrition and good health and also the issues about good food here at Kambala village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in fact, we have never got this kind of education or information before but we just get very small education in the church or small gatherings’ that conducted in our village especial just a small group of women, and there we just give each other what we know about good and health food, also in the church they just tell us to eat everything and that we shouldn’t be worried all food is good for our health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you think this education concerning nutrition and health can be made as important to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those changes to us have a good effect as we get to eat nice food as well as health food not like in the past also we eat variety of food and that is a good thing, more over now the food is health and gives us strong body and clear mind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Our last part of discussion is I would like to know how and where to elders get to learn and acquires information concerning nutrition and good health and also the issues about good food here at Kambala village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in fact, we have never got this kind of education or information before but we just get very small education in the church or small gatherings’ that conducted in our village especial just a small group of women, and there we just give each other what we know about good and health food, also in the church they just tell us to eat everything and that we shouldn’t be worried all food is good for our health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you think this education concerning nutrition and health can be made as important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We wish to get this education in different places not only in the church. E.g. we wish to be provided this when we go to the hospital or seminars, you know among men and women, women are the one who cook at home and this means that we should get more education as we are taking care of our families and because we go much to the hospitals than men the even there they should be giving us education on nutrition and health food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, whom should be taught first?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "in fact, we have never got this kind of education or information before but we just get very small education in the church or small gatherings’ that conducted in our village especial just a small group of women, and there we just give each other what we know about good and health food, also in the church they just tell us to eat everything and that we shouldn’t be worried all food is good for our health."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how do you think this education concerning nutrition and health can be made as important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We wish to get this education in different places not only in the church. E.g. we wish to be provided this when we go to the hospital or seminars, you know among men and women, women are the one who cook at home and this means that we should get more education as we are taking care of our families and because we go much to the hospitals than men the even there they should be giving us education on nutrition and health food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, whom should be taught first?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We should both be given the education but for the women we should be given more often as we are the one taking care of our families, cooking meal as for men they just bring food at home so they should be educated so as when they buy food they get to buy health food for the family.\n\nAnd through women even our children will be able to get that education as most of the time mother is a first and best teacher to a child, but also they should be given education to school so as we can get the best generation in the future."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very well, so whom do you want to teach you concerning nutrition and health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00001:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We wish to get this education in different places not only in the church. E.g. we wish to be provided this when we go to the hospital or seminars, you know among men and women, women are the one who cook at home and this means that we should get more education as we are taking care of our families and because we go much to the hospitals than men the even there they should be giving us education on nutrition and health food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, whom should be taught first?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We should both be given the education but for the women we should be given more often as we are the one taking care of our families, cooking meal as for men they just bring food at home so they should be educated so as when they buy food they get to buy health food for the family.\n\nAnd through women even our children will be able to get that education as most of the time mother is a first and best teacher to a child, but also they should be given education to school so as we can get the best generation in the future."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very well, so whom do you want to teach you concerning nutrition and health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(All of them) you should (Laughter)\n\nWhat we are asking is that we should be given education like this most of the time; there should be a means of providing this kind of information every now and then."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you all very much for your time and the best participation, so is there any question or suggestion as we closing up our discussion?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00011:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.2941438000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, that's at different levels. I mean, the no loss policy goal, the 2020 overall goal that is still valid at the EU biodiversity strategy. The no net loss is just an action and a target too of the EU biodiversity strategy to achieve that goal, but it doesn't say... I mean, no loss doesn't say it's no growth or no net loss, it's just say no loss. And of course we interpret that as no loss at all but of course it is understandable a no net loss component has been in this and as NGOs we also have to say we haven't thought this through because we have let it slip in there, we have accompanied the development of the biodiversity strategy and at that time there was not a huge dispute about it, it only appeared later when we got more into the matter, that we saw, hey, this can really lead to problems and open up a real biodiversity bizarre."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and how participatory has the consultation been with the EU?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You are referring to the EU online consulation?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, quite, everyone was invited to participate. So, we did, we had long conversations amongst ourselves and with other NGOs that answered the questions which was tricky because many of the questions were clearly geared to have compensation or an offsetting mechanism which we would have preferred to have a much broader view on no net loss, to look at other options such as having clear targets, having spatial planning in there, maybe a soil directive to come back in, because we felt this was on the one hand has the dangers we have just discussed, on the other hand wouldn't cover everything. You can't really grasp, from a purely technical point of view, you can't really do anything against slow agricultural degradation, you need other instruments to get there other than compensation or an offsetting mechanism. So, can you remind me what the question was?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was just, what level of participation..."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00011:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.2622, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, the participation is good and we encourage others to participate as well. We recently had a conversation with the commission on that and there was around 750 people that responded and lots of organisations, but only 8 countries among that, quite interesting. We didn't get a detailed analysis yet because it is quite fresh so nobody could give us overview statistics at that point, that was interesting. But the questionnaire was not well done, because one thing, it was too much geared on offsetting and the other point is they put two different statements in one question, so you had to answer 'do you like this combined with that' then you had to answer yes or no and there was no choice 'yes ok I like the first part and I don't like the second one'. There were lots of questions like that. So you weren't able to answer properly, you had to answer yes. I don't know how to explain, if you have a look you will see the latter part was really not well done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On the actual set of questions I noticed there was no question relating to the treatment of social equity and justice concerns necessarily and I was wondering when undertaking biodiversity offsetting do you think compensating the affected communities, i.e. social communities as well as ecological communities is always necessary and practical?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, of course the social dimension has to be looked at, that is one of arguments we're making because it is... a part of this mechanism is of course to compensate for environmental loss on a more scientific objective basis, which is difficult enough, but you also, in some cases, in many cases it's not possible. But, what also has to be taken into account is the whole value the natural environment has for people, for recreation..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "for health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For psychological health. I mean, you can't overestimate the ability to have a look into the greenery around you rather than concrete walls. So, this has to play a role definitely. On the other hand I think it is very difficult to do that so... The best way of course is to try and avoid it as much as possible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, and has there been discussion of this treatment of social aspects of biodiversity offsetting?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00011:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.958, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, of course the social dimension has to be looked at, that is one of arguments we're making because it is... a part of this mechanism is of course to compensate for environmental loss on a more scientific objective basis, which is difficult enough, but you also, in some cases, in many cases it's not possible. But, what also has to be taken into account is the whole value the natural environment has for people, for recreation..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "for health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For psychological health. I mean, you can't overestimate the ability to have a look into the greenery around you rather than concrete walls. So, this has to play a role definitely. On the other hand I think it is very difficult to do that so... The best way of course is to try and avoid it as much as possible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, and has there been discussion of this treatment of social aspects of biodiversity offsetting?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we have raised it, ourselves we did and FERN did so even stronger pointing out... many of the local movements against major development projects there are of course no biodiversity experts, it is just their home that is being destroyed. Of course, it is very obvious from that that you have to take this into account. But, again, the key outcome from that discussion is we shouldn't do it at all because this is a problem. We didn't think about operationalising this in order to get a way how this could be also compensated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, definitely. And what do you think the increasing role of market based instruments such as biodiversity offsetting have in reversing biodiversity loss? Broadly speaking - do you think it can advance progress towards the NATURA 2000 goals or it might undermine progress?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00010:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1776611264054098, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure, yep."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Having worked on one of the pilot offsetting schemes you will be able to give a good insight into the design and implementation aspects."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hopefully so, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, to start, perhaps the most divisive debate around offsetting is its implications for development red tape. So, if I can begin by asking you - do you think biodiversity offsets are likely to lead to tighter or less stringent regulations around infrastructure projects?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's a good question, my personal feeling is that actually the mainstreaming of offsetting actually has the potential simplify the development process by making decision making more transparent. From my own perspective, obviously biodiversity offsetting is a way of delivering compensation for impacts which can't be avoided or mitigated against. Part of my role is to comment on planning applications and that very often leads to debate with developers and their ecologists about whether mitigation or compensation is being provided on their sites. At the moment, that is fairly subjective, depending on whether you work for the developer or not and how that affects your view on whether you think appropriate or sufficient mitigation or compensation is being provided. And at the moment it is a fairly subjective thing - my view is that offsetting or more specifically the use of a metric where losses and gains can actually be quantified with a numeric value will simplify that process, make it more transparent, make it less sort of subjective and potentially controversial, hopefully streamline the process. I think the use of the metric can be incorporated into standard ecological assessment which can be made as part of a phase 1 habitat survey fairly easily and would expedite negotiations about the extent and suitability of mitigation - so in that respect I think it would potentially make things easier for a developer because everyone knows you have got the figures in black and white in front of you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how effective do you think the metric is as a conceptual tool in terms of the parameters you are considering when you are undertaking offsetting - do you think it considers the right amount, too many, too few."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00010:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.270285909, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, well I think the national planning policy framework does refer to no net loss and possibly it even mentions net gain, yes it talks about 'moving from a net loss of biodiversity to achieving net gains for the future’. Yes, I mean, it's very easy to talk about no net loss and as I say, that is already in there in national policy but I don't think we are currently in a situation where we are achieving no net loss and we are certainly not achieving net gain. So I guess the question is would biodiversity offsetting help to strengthen the move towards no net loss and hopefully net gain and I think in terms of actually better capturing and quantifying losses and gains arising from developments through the metric, I think that it would potentially help deliver no net loss."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you think there is a difference between a no net loss policy goal and a no loss policy goal - the no loss being previously enshrined at the policy level."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I would imagine so - No loss would mean no development at all affecting sites of ecological importance which in the real world is never going to happen. Obviously, no net loss allows for there to be some losses as long as they are replaced elsewhere. But as I say I don't think that is currently realistically happening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how can you see the offsetting being diffused around the UK after... are the offsetting pilots now finished?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are, yes, they formally finished in April yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you see it being up-scaled and now implemented as a policy tool for the UK or do you think there still needs to be some work done."}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00010:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.6336510100000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I would imagine so - No loss would mean no development at all affecting sites of ecological importance which in the real world is never going to happen. Obviously, no net loss allows for there to be some losses as long as they are replaced elsewhere. But as I say I don't think that is currently realistically happening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how can you see the offsetting being diffused around the UK after... are the offsetting pilots now finished?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are, yes, they formally finished in April yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you see it being up-scaled and now implemented as a policy tool for the UK or do you think there still needs to be some work done."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know, there is meant to be an evaluation report being produced which looks at all six of the pilots and their experiences and will presumably be making recommendations about perhaps fine tuning of offsetting and then whether or not it will be rolled out nationally. My understanding is that that report was meant to be produced at the end of July and it hasn't been and the rumour is: no decision on offsetting and presumably publication of any reports is now going to happen till after the general election, presumably because it is seen as a bit of an emotive subject. So, yes, to be honest, it is anyones guess as to whether it is going to be rolled out. I don't think there is anything stopping local authorities deciding that they want to use biodiversity offsetting. But I would be very surprised if any really take it and run with it until there has been a formal decision from government about it. To be honest, it is a bit of an unknown at the moment that one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thanks, that's interesting. These are just in the next section on the equity considerations. When you have been undertaking offsets do you think compensating affected communities, social communities, not ecological, is always necessary and is it always practical?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00010:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.0141, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In principal yes, I would have thought so, I guess as long as that doesn't infringe upon the ecological needs of the offset. In principal yes, but I don't know how that could or should be formally incorporated in the biodiversity offsetting approach but I don't see why in principle it couldn't be applied."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, and have issues related to social compensation been adequately discussed in the design and implementation stages even if they are not explicitly represented in the metric?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To be honest I don't know and I suspect they probably haven't, I mean, as I say I think the metric in biodiversity offsetting is purely focused on ecological impacts rather than social, wider social impacts. So, the issue has been flagged up, but I don't think it has been properly given consideration."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is your opinion regarding the use of biodiversity offsetting as a market based tool in terms of developing an ecosystem marketplace and trading offsets between different areas economically."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think there is a lot of controversy about this isn't there and the sort of putting a price of nature and giving everything a value and if everything had a value then everything can be bought and sold and is tradeable and you sort of lose the argument about the intrinsic value of nature and protecting things for their own sake. But that said, we live in an economic world, my - this might be a little bit tangent - but my personal view is that at the moment the true ecological cost of development isn't properly captured. I think in a lot of cases developers effectively get away with probably providing less mitigation or compensation than they should do if the mitigation hierarchy was absolutely adhered to. One of my concerns is that offsetting might end up costing developers more because they are suddenly going to be made to deliver the right amount of ecological compensation which they haven't previously had to and inevitably that is going to end up costing them more money. So, as I said that's probably a bit tangential."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, that's all brilliant, do you think in general biodiversity units can be translated into economic terms?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.662768484562686, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that my participation is voluntary, and then I am free to with any time without any reason and that I can decline to answer any question during the interview."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand the information collected during my interview may be looked at by other researchers from Newcastle University who are working on or assisting with the study I give permission for these individuals to have access to this information."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that information collected during the interview may be shared with other researchers for you some future research for teaching purposes that the data will be thoroughly anonymize first"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.2919649828474284, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand the information collected during my interview may be looked at by other researchers from Newcastle University who are working on or assisting with the study I give permission for these individuals to have access to this information."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that information collected during the interview may be shared with other researchers for you some future research for teaching purposes that the data will be thoroughly anonymize first"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that the interview will be audio or video recorded according to my preference typed in that all my identifying personal details will be removed."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.991072203163809, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that information collected during the interview may be shared with other researchers for you some future research for teaching purposes that the data will be thoroughly anonymize first"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that the interview will be audio or video recorded according to my preference typed in that all my identifying personal details will be removed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand the direct quotations may be taken from what I say and use in research and publications, but I will not be identifiable from these quotations."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.767858003515344, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that the interview will be audio or video recorded according to my preference typed in that all my identifying personal details will be removed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand the direct quotations may be taken from what I say and use in research and publications, but I will not be identifiable from these quotations."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I agree to take part in this study."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.630953337239271, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand the direct quotations may be taken from what I say and use in research and publications, but I will not be identifiable from these quotations."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I agree to take part in this study."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Excellent. And then there's just two others here. If you'd like to receive a copy of the research findings. Upon completion of the study. Please say yes now."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.589948152488079, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I agree to take part in this study."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Excellent. And then there's just two others here. If you'd like to receive a copy of the research findings. Upon completion of the study. Please say yes now."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, please."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. So my dissertation will be finished in August. So you'll expect to get that around. Then I'll send that address you provided. And if you'd like to receive a hard copy of the study documents. Please say yes now to receive a hard copy you will need to provide your mailing address"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.655497947208977, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I agree."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Excellent. And then there's just two others here. If you'd like to receive a copy of the research findings. Upon completion of the study. Please say yes now."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, please."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. So my dissertation will be finished in August. So you'll expect to get that around. Then I'll send that address you provided. And if you'd like to receive a hard copy of the study documents. Please say yes now to receive a hard copy you will need to provide your mailing address"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no need for a hard copy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right, so that's that out of the way so thank you for that. And we can go ahead and kind of dive in here. So my first questions are just kind of helped me get to know your child, a little better and to help me sort of understand what you know about the flu. Um, so you have one child is that right?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 11.83944216356553, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, please."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. So my dissertation will be finished in August. So you'll expect to get that around. Then I'll send that address you provided. And if you'd like to receive a hard copy of the study documents. Please say yes now to receive a hard copy you will need to provide your mailing address"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no need for a hard copy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right, so that's that out of the way so thank you for that. And we can go ahead and kind of dive in here. So my first questions are just kind of helped me get to know your child, a little better and to help me sort of understand what you know about the flu. Um, so you have one child is that right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they're three years old?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 12.14745946119201, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they're three years old?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yeah, she turned three, little girl called [Child], and she turned three in April."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Child]?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah [Child]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Yeah. That's awesome. Um, so can you tell me a little bit about her? Like what kind of things does she like to do? you know how, how things are being at home right now?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.947480816286433, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah [Child]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Yeah. That's awesome. Um, so can you tell me a little bit about her? Like what kind of things does she like to do? you know how, how things are being at home right now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, everything. Yeah. She's really good. And yeah, she's like just any three year old little girl. She's full of energy and really um, like in terms of, like sort of health. We haven't, she doesn't have any health problems. We have been very lucky and until like about 10 months old she hadn't even like had a temperature or been unwell or anything like that. Um, so yeah, she's just a great little girl and she loves Dora the Explorer and princesses and all the kinds of things you'd expect of a of a three year old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, obviously she's at home at the minute, and she's doing really well. She's a really sweet spot age where it doesn't, it doesn't really come into her, shes just happy at the moment that mum and dad are around constantly and, she wasn't a massive fan of nursery. I mean she has friends and she loves it when she gets there, but she's not she's not really into it, she doesn't run in there or anything. So she's really enjoying herself, she's living her best life!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I think, I think for a lot of children her age. It's really more about how the parents are doing because, you know, like you said, they're just happy to have everyone around and having everyone's attention all the time."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.941645351429369, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, everything. Yeah. She's really good. And yeah, she's like just any three year old little girl. She's full of energy and really um, like in terms of, like sort of health. We haven't, she doesn't have any health problems. We have been very lucky and until like about 10 months old she hadn't even like had a temperature or been unwell or anything like that. Um, so yeah, she's just a great little girl and she loves Dora the Explorer and princesses and all the kinds of things you'd expect of a of a three year old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, obviously she's at home at the minute, and she's doing really well. She's a really sweet spot age where it doesn't, it doesn't really come into her, shes just happy at the moment that mum and dad are around constantly and, she wasn't a massive fan of nursery. I mean she has friends and she loves it when she gets there, but she's not she's not really into it, she doesn't run in there or anything. So she's really enjoying herself, she's living her best life!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I think, I think for a lot of children her age. It's really more about how the parents are doing because, you know, like you said, they're just happy to have everyone around and having everyone's attention all the time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Totally, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me kind of what you know about the flu? Just anything that comes to mind when you think about the flu."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.712939279365966, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, obviously she's at home at the minute, and she's doing really well. She's a really sweet spot age where it doesn't, it doesn't really come into her, shes just happy at the moment that mum and dad are around constantly and, she wasn't a massive fan of nursery. I mean she has friends and she loves it when she gets there, but she's not she's not really into it, she doesn't run in there or anything. So she's really enjoying herself, she's living her best life!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I think, I think for a lot of children her age. It's really more about how the parents are doing because, you know, like you said, they're just happy to have everyone around and having everyone's attention all the time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Totally, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me kind of what you know about the flu? Just anything that comes to mind when you think about the flu."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, so seasonal mainly around kind of the winter period and and that we get, we can sometimes get worst flu seasons than other flu seasons. Um, I suppose the difference, like knowing whether, you know, you've got, you've had flu or not. I don't like, I always get, like I said, people say, \"Oh, I've got flu\", but then other people are like, \"no, I really, really had flu\" and that it can absolutely floor some people, and some people can just feel a bit under the weather. And and I suppose that, like something that I've noticed over recent years, is that sort of flu can, like the strain of it, can change. So different years we have different strains of flu and that there's like lots of different flus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, that's great. Thank you. So do you worry about your daughter, getting the flu or is it something that you know like, can you give me a sense for sort of how you feel about that when you think about your daughter potentially getting the flu?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.208421508046593, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think it's not something, I think I worried about it more, when she was younger and in probably the first one to two years because partly because of the worry of whether it was flu or something else like meningitis or anything like that. If she was to come down with symptoms would we know was flu or not? and and... Yeah, really. I mean, she's so, she's so, healthy for the most part, touch wood, that we don't. It's not something that enters my mind as something that's going to happen. Although obviously with recent, the recent pandemic proves that it can have, you know, people can get ill anytime regardless. But generally, and we've not been too worried because, we've not, as she's never had any real health complaints, we don't necessarily. It's not something that preoccupies us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that makes sense. So the worry when she was younger was sort of just general? you know, you would have worried about any illness is that—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Hello, sorry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No problem. [Participant is speaking to her child]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I'm sorry, could you repeat the question?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh no, I think we just, we were just finished, just finishing, your thought. I think I was clarifying that when she was younger, you, it's like you were just worried about like any illness really, and not, you know, not knowing what she had. But as she gets a little older, it seems like you just worry a little less maybe?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 10.231579453385104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Hello, sorry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No problem. [Participant is speaking to her child]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I'm sorry, could you repeat the question?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh no, I think we just, we were just finished, just finishing, your thought. I think I was clarifying that when she was younger, you, it's like you were just worried about like any illness really, and not, you know, not knowing what she had. But as she gets a little older, it seems like you just worry a little less maybe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think a big part of that is communication. So when they're very young. They cant communicate why there are, that they're unwell and what the symptoms are. Whereas now, you know, she could communicate more and I think there's just a general, the only concern is that, that something would come on so fast that we couldn't respond to it. I suppose flu wouldn't have been in my mind or something, because flu in my mind would be something that would slowly sort of gather pace. Whereas something like meningitis or something like that. Might sort of just happen in a flash and all the sudden she goes pale or something, you know, all that kind of, you know, all the signs you're told to look out for. So as opposed, flu wasn't my main thought in my mind. My mind was probably more triggered by the kind of more immediate quick really like a ring 999 emergency sort of conditions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So you almost sort of started talking about sort of my next question here. Can you tell me what you think getting sick with the flu is like for children? Like the symptoms, what do you expect them to to look like, you know, what do you expect? Can you tell me what you think about that?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.022068973304531, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't see a cough, more like just like feeling really under the weather and temperatures and sort of subduedness would be what expect to see from flu in my mind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So do you know anyone whose child has gotten ill with the flu, you know, maybe any of her friends that you know you might know the parents or anything like that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I'm sure they will have been. But it's like flu, it just feels so common place that if I heard like one of my friends kids that had flu, I'd be like \"Aw that's really bad\". I think the things that probably more like \"Oooh\", like they stick in my mind, is when children get things like hand, foot, mouth, or whatever it is. or like slap cheek? All these like really bizarre sounding things, which actually turned out to be really common. You just don't hear them as much about as flu. Like, I feel like flu would almost be like \"oh yeah that's bad but loads of people get flu\"."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Like if someone had like hand, foot, mouth for those things I'd be like, \"ooh, what's that?\", yeah, they probably stick in my mind more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So yeah, so it sounds like what you're saying is, like, maybe it has happened and it just doesn't you know, just didn't seem significant really at the time it was a thing that just happens to people."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.246743303671701, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I'm sure they will have been. But it's like flu, it just feels so common place that if I heard like one of my friends kids that had flu, I'd be like \"Aw that's really bad\". I think the things that probably more like \"Oooh\", like they stick in my mind, is when children get things like hand, foot, mouth, or whatever it is. or like slap cheek? All these like really bizarre sounding things, which actually turned out to be really common. You just don't hear them as much about as flu. Like, I feel like flu would almost be like \"oh yeah that's bad but loads of people get flu\"."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Like if someone had like hand, foot, mouth for those things I'd be like, \"ooh, what's that?\", yeah, they probably stick in my mind more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So yeah, so it sounds like what you're saying is, like, maybe it has happened and it just doesn't you know, just didn't seem significant really at the time it was a thing that just happens to people."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's interesting. Thank you. So when you want to learn more about a sickness, like the flu for example, where would you go to get that information?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 11.385270337413, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Like if someone had like hand, foot, mouth for those things I'd be like, \"ooh, what's that?\", yeah, they probably stick in my mind more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So yeah, so it sounds like what you're saying is, like, maybe it has happened and it just doesn't you know, just didn't seem significant really at the time it was a thing that just happens to people."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's interesting. Thank you. So when you want to learn more about a sickness, like the flu for example, where would you go to get that information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah, mainly NHS online. Um, we did get given like a little book when [Child] was born and which was an attempt, I know it was an attempt, to stop people going to 111 or calling, or go to the GP surgery. I can't remember. Was it like a red book or green book? It's sort of like seem to be the book to go to. And it's got lots of flaps for lots of child le yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, the Orange Book."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.205855930458888, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's interesting. Thank you. So when you want to learn more about a sickness, like the flu for example, where would you go to get that information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah, mainly NHS online. Um, we did get given like a little book when [Child] was born and which was an attempt, I know it was an attempt, to stop people going to 111 or calling, or go to the GP surgery. I can't remember. Was it like a red book or green book? It's sort of like seem to be the book to go to. And it's got lots of flaps for lots of child le yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, the Orange Book."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah right, thats it! But to be honest, um it wasn't intuitive to use, even though, like if there wasn't this Google and there's the NHS website and that just feels more immediate. I just I say, I type the words and so I would look at that. And I would probably look at that and I would probably pay attention when the BBC or other main news outlets were reporting on flu, I'd probably sort of listen or read an article. So if they're kind of saying \"we're expecting a really bad flu season\" or something like that, I'd probably pay attention to that kind of media. But mainly I would just go onto NHS online for a quick read, but quite quickly after that if I had any concerns, I'd ring 111. I definitely have done previously, Id leave the Orange Book... I just, the Orange Book just felt like let sometimes when you're flicking through it. It's like, it just felt like taking the time to flick through. It was like wasting time finding out, which almost like now I'm saying it to you, sounds insane and, you know..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, it makes sense because it sounds like what you're saying is, you know, why would you bother like to look through this book when you can get the information quickly online."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.117617700509875, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah, mainly NHS online. Um, we did get given like a little book when [Child] was born and which was an attempt, I know it was an attempt, to stop people going to 111 or calling, or go to the GP surgery. I can't remember. Was it like a red book or green book? It's sort of like seem to be the book to go to. And it's got lots of flaps for lots of child le yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, the Orange Book."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah right, thats it! But to be honest, um it wasn't intuitive to use, even though, like if there wasn't this Google and there's the NHS website and that just feels more immediate. I just I say, I type the words and so I would look at that. And I would probably look at that and I would probably pay attention when the BBC or other main news outlets were reporting on flu, I'd probably sort of listen or read an article. So if they're kind of saying \"we're expecting a really bad flu season\" or something like that, I'd probably pay attention to that kind of media. But mainly I would just go onto NHS online for a quick read, but quite quickly after that if I had any concerns, I'd ring 111. I definitely have done previously, Id leave the Orange Book... I just, the Orange Book just felt like let sometimes when you're flicking through it. It's like, it just felt like taking the time to flick through. It was like wasting time finding out, which almost like now I'm saying it to you, sounds insane and, you know..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, it makes sense because it sounds like what you're saying is, you know, why would you bother like to look through this book when you can get the information quickly online."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why would you bother to look for something that may or may not be in there? You can go straight to, you know, 111 and talk to someone, or go straight to the NHS website it's, you know, whatever is more convenient whatever is faster. I think makes sense to me."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.130686333899861, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah right, thats it! But to be honest, um it wasn't intuitive to use, even though, like if there wasn't this Google and there's the NHS website and that just feels more immediate. I just I say, I type the words and so I would look at that. And I would probably look at that and I would probably pay attention when the BBC or other main news outlets were reporting on flu, I'd probably sort of listen or read an article. So if they're kind of saying \"we're expecting a really bad flu season\" or something like that, I'd probably pay attention to that kind of media. But mainly I would just go onto NHS online for a quick read, but quite quickly after that if I had any concerns, I'd ring 111. I definitely have done previously, Id leave the Orange Book... I just, the Orange Book just felt like let sometimes when you're flicking through it. It's like, it just felt like taking the time to flick through. It was like wasting time finding out, which almost like now I'm saying it to you, sounds insane and, you know..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, it makes sense because it sounds like what you're saying is, you know, why would you bother like to look through this book when you can get the information quickly online."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why would you bother to look for something that may or may not be in there? You can go straight to, you know, 111 and talk to someone, or go straight to the NHS website it's, you know, whatever is more convenient whatever is faster. I think makes sense to me."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you ever talked to your daughter's GP about the flu or to like any other health care professional?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.145207037666513, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why would you bother to look for something that may or may not be in there? You can go straight to, you know, 111 and talk to someone, or go straight to the NHS website it's, you know, whatever is more convenient whatever is faster. I think makes sense to me."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you ever talked to your daughter's GP about the flu or to like any other health care professional?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, Hang on a second. I'm gonna-- [Participant is speaking to her child]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, no, no problem at all. So the, the question we were talking about was, Have you ever talked to your daughter's GP or doing other healthcare professional about the flu?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.272452264073902, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you ever talked to your daughter's GP about the flu or to like any other health care professional?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, Hang on a second. I'm gonna-- [Participant is speaking to her child]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, no, no problem at all. So the, the question we were talking about was, Have you ever talked to your daughter's GP or doing other healthcare professional about the flu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not specifically. I don't think we've ever suspected she had flu. So that would be the only time that I would probably talk to the GP or nurse practitioner and about it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Makes sense. Um, so my next sort of set of questions just help me learn your thoughts about the flu vaccine and whether or not something that you know, you think would be helpful for your daughter. Uh, what do you think the benefits are for your from getting the flu vaccine?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.413835848971, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, Hang on a second. I'm gonna-- [Participant is speaking to her child]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, no, no problem at all. So the, the question we were talking about was, Have you ever talked to your daughter's GP or doing other healthcare professional about the flu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not specifically. I don't think we've ever suspected she had flu. So that would be the only time that I would probably talk to the GP or nurse practitioner and about it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Makes sense. Um, so my next sort of set of questions just help me learn your thoughts about the flu vaccine and whether or not something that you know, you think would be helpful for your daughter. Uh, what do you think the benefits are for your from getting the flu vaccine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, that she was protected from whatever strains the clever people in the laboratories think were most dangerous in that winter period. Um, I don't think I ever think she's getting totally covered, but getting protected from more severe ones, strains. I suppose, because she goes to nursery as well. I felt like it gave her some. So, she just started going to nursery at 10 months and that was literally when she started becoming ill, which then in my mind makes me associate it with when she started mingling with more kids not to say that she didn't see kids, but not to the same level and intensity. And that was when she started to get like sniffles and stuff like that. And it was probably about the time we stopped breastfeeding as well. So the whole thing kind of came up when she got there. So, I think in terms of the benefits, there was being, being, I suppose, more protected when she was around more children as well. And so the more risk of catching it was limited."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, now that that makes that makes a lot of sense to me. You know, I think. That that age range when they're making the transition to suddenly having all these peers around, I think it makes sense that that's a time when you start thinking about protection."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.68203983219, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not specifically. I don't think we've ever suspected she had flu. So that would be the only time that I would probably talk to the GP or nurse practitioner and about it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Makes sense. Um, so my next sort of set of questions just help me learn your thoughts about the flu vaccine and whether or not something that you know, you think would be helpful for your daughter. Uh, what do you think the benefits are for your from getting the flu vaccine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, that she was protected from whatever strains the clever people in the laboratories think were most dangerous in that winter period. Um, I don't think I ever think she's getting totally covered, but getting protected from more severe ones, strains. I suppose, because she goes to nursery as well. I felt like it gave her some. So, she just started going to nursery at 10 months and that was literally when she started becoming ill, which then in my mind makes me associate it with when she started mingling with more kids not to say that she didn't see kids, but not to the same level and intensity. And that was when she started to get like sniffles and stuff like that. And it was probably about the time we stopped breastfeeding as well. So the whole thing kind of came up when she got there. So, I think in terms of the benefits, there was being, being, I suppose, more protected when she was around more children as well. And so the more risk of catching it was limited."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, now that that makes that makes a lot of sense to me. You know, I think. That that age range when they're making the transition to suddenly having all these peers around, I think it makes sense that that's a time when you start thinking about protection."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there are any downsides to your daughter getting the flu vaccine?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.091155369099999, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, that she was protected from whatever strains the clever people in the laboratories think were most dangerous in that winter period. Um, I don't think I ever think she's getting totally covered, but getting protected from more severe ones, strains. I suppose, because she goes to nursery as well. I felt like it gave her some. So, she just started going to nursery at 10 months and that was literally when she started becoming ill, which then in my mind makes me associate it with when she started mingling with more kids not to say that she didn't see kids, but not to the same level and intensity. And that was when she started to get like sniffles and stuff like that. And it was probably about the time we stopped breastfeeding as well. So the whole thing kind of came up when she got there. So, I think in terms of the benefits, there was being, being, I suppose, more protected when she was around more children as well. And so the more risk of catching it was limited."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, now that that makes that makes a lot of sense to me. You know, I think. That that age range when they're making the transition to suddenly having all these peers around, I think it makes sense that that's a time when you start thinking about protection."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there are any downsides to your daughter getting the flu vaccine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only one would be the um, the kind of, any side effects, but I don't, I don't, think I, don't think she had any side effects when she had it um... but yeah, that that would be the only downside would be side effects. And also because because it was a nasal spray it was even less intrusive. I suppose that you know the other vaccines, they kind of give her sore arms, are more uncomfortable and more painful but this didn't even have that. So, and that wasn't a disadvantage of this immunization, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, so if you want to learn more about vaccine, like, you know, side effects, benefits or even like whether your daughter should get this vaccine. Where do you go to get that information?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.656839299, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there are any downsides to your daughter getting the flu vaccine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only one would be the um, the kind of, any side effects, but I don't, I don't, think I, don't think she had any side effects when she had it um... but yeah, that that would be the only downside would be side effects. And also because because it was a nasal spray it was even less intrusive. I suppose that you know the other vaccines, they kind of give her sore arms, are more uncomfortable and more painful but this didn't even have that. So, and that wasn't a disadvantage of this immunization, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, so if you want to learn more about vaccine, like, you know, side effects, benefits or even like whether your daughter should get this vaccine. Where do you go to get that information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah NHS again, website. I stay very clear of mummy blogs and mummy websites and forums. Because yeah, they just really rial me more than I find that supportive or reassuring. So, and yeah, it would just be the NHS website and I suppose I might have, I might have talked to the nurse or GP about it. But generally, as well I think I just probably absorbed media around it and the kind of public discourse about the importance of vaccines and stuff like that. And it might have a little bit to do with the type of role I'm in. In terms of hearing about benefits of different things and health, vaccines as well might have an impact. So it's probably just absorbed the media, the positive media around the importance of the vaccine and and then yeah, I would read about the pros and cons on NHS website."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And so your daughter was vaccinated this flu season, is that corrrect?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 12, "return_to_go": 17.39648811, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only one would be the um, the kind of, any side effects, but I don't, I don't, think I, don't think she had any side effects when she had it um... but yeah, that that would be the only downside would be side effects. And also because because it was a nasal spray it was even less intrusive. I suppose that you know the other vaccines, they kind of give her sore arms, are more uncomfortable and more painful but this didn't even have that. So, and that wasn't a disadvantage of this immunization, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, so if you want to learn more about vaccine, like, you know, side effects, benefits or even like whether your daughter should get this vaccine. Where do you go to get that information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah NHS again, website. I stay very clear of mummy blogs and mummy websites and forums. Because yeah, they just really rial me more than I find that supportive or reassuring. So, and yeah, it would just be the NHS website and I suppose I might have, I might have talked to the nurse or GP about it. But generally, as well I think I just probably absorbed media around it and the kind of public discourse about the importance of vaccines and stuff like that. And it might have a little bit to do with the type of role I'm in. In terms of hearing about benefits of different things and health, vaccines as well might have an impact. So it's probably just absorbed the media, the positive media around the importance of the vaccine and and then yeah, I would read about the pros and cons on NHS website."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And so your daughter was vaccinated this flu season, is that corrrect?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, so how important was it to you that she would be vaccinated this year? Was it something that you were, you know, \"as soon as it became available, we're making an appointment\" or was it something that was a little more like now \"well, we'll see what happens\"?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00002:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.2251, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "it sounds like you really needed to to kind of continually advocate for your child. That it wasn't something that was just going to happen on its own."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely, I actually almost changed GP practices and because I know, I knew that my two friends daughters got it and it's just, it's not far away, but they were like, \"Oh, no, no, you can't do that\" and it was like \"okay fair enough\", that is, you know, so I was maybe even changing. Our GP practices literally over the road to us, which I felt, you know, and I didn't really want to have to change. And there was something else. I kind of wanted to say about that as well. Just that. And I suppose. Oh yeah, there was, there was um, in during this period of November, December, there was some sort something nasty going around, which wasn't COVID, it was something something was going around. I can't remember what it was. And I think it was a sickness bug or something and then, and the public health advice, was \"get the flu vaccine that's your best line of defense, any children need to get flu vaccine\". And I was like, \"I'm trying to get it, I can't!\" And then I can't remember what it was. There was some, something going around and like a real sickness making bug and the flu vaccine was said to be a good protector for children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now they say that, I do remember in in the fall at my uni, there is something going around a lot of a lot of, a lot of my friends were getting, you know, very ill."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So its interesting, you know that they were recommending vaccination as well to mitigate the that."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.237320040833181, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our diet includes stiff porridge, rice, etc.\n\nWe eat stiff porridge, milk, rice, etc.\n\nWe sometimes eat stiff porridge, bananas, rice, milk, cracked and cooked food, etc.\n\nWe also eat meat, mixed vegetables including spinach, kale leaves, Chinese, sweet potatoes leaves, cowpeas leaves, beans, green grams, pigeon peas.\n\nNatural relish for the maasai is meat.\n\nVegetables include kale leaves and amaranth leaves. These are wild vegetables.\n\nWild vegetables include okra, mgagani, etc.\n\nWagogo people eat okra leaves and stiff porridge.\n\nThe pare people do eat meat, cowpeas, milk, okra leaves.\n\nSome vegetables are wild, they grow during rain season, these are wild okra and amaranth leaves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does rainfall contribute to availability of vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When it rains most wild vegetables do grow and we get them free, so if it were raining every day, we would be getting enough vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which food stuffs are mostly eaten nowadays compared to the past period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They include chips\n\nCassava and yams.\n\nRice is nowadays eaten by many people compared to the past period. In the past we used to eat stiff porridge and cracked and cooked maize.\n\nIn the past we used to eat stiff porridge, bananas and cassava. We are also still eating them.\n\nMost maasai used to eat milk, but nowadays they eat stiff porridge, rice etc. We used to eat fermented milk, fresh milk and meat but nowadays we eat almost all kinds of food.\n\nWagogo people used to eat stiff porridge and kale vegetables, but nowadays we eat porridge, wheat bans, rice, ea, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which fruits were most eaten in the past period compared to the current period?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5970222675924233, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When it rains most wild vegetables do grow and we get them free, so if it were raining every day, we would be getting enough vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which food stuffs are mostly eaten nowadays compared to the past period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They include chips\n\nCassava and yams.\n\nRice is nowadays eaten by many people compared to the past period. In the past we used to eat stiff porridge and cracked and cooked maize.\n\nIn the past we used to eat stiff porridge, bananas and cassava. We are also still eating them.\n\nMost maasai used to eat milk, but nowadays they eat stiff porridge, rice etc. We used to eat fermented milk, fresh milk and meat but nowadays we eat almost all kinds of food.\n\nWagogo people used to eat stiff porridge and kale vegetables, but nowadays we eat porridge, wheat bans, rice, ea, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which fruits were most eaten in the past period compared to the current period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to eat fruits such as tamaring fruits, siteti, and olumangwa but nowadays we eat almost all kinds of fruits.\n\nLife in the past period was very good and comfortable because we did not spend much money to get these fruits unlike it is nowadays whereby you have to buy every good fruits to eat it.\n\nThe fruits that we used to eat include mikole, mifuru, etc, nowadays children do not like wild fruits, and they are much interested in eating cultivated fruits which are sold at the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do most children not interested in eating wild fruits nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.9966914084360257, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They include chips\n\nCassava and yams.\n\nRice is nowadays eaten by many people compared to the past period. In the past we used to eat stiff porridge and cracked and cooked maize.\n\nIn the past we used to eat stiff porridge, bananas and cassava. We are also still eating them.\n\nMost maasai used to eat milk, but nowadays they eat stiff porridge, rice etc. We used to eat fermented milk, fresh milk and meat but nowadays we eat almost all kinds of food.\n\nWagogo people used to eat stiff porridge and kale vegetables, but nowadays we eat porridge, wheat bans, rice, ea, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which fruits were most eaten in the past period compared to the current period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to eat fruits such as tamaring fruits, siteti, and olumangwa but nowadays we eat almost all kinds of fruits.\n\nLife in the past period was very good and comfortable because we did not spend much money to get these fruits unlike it is nowadays whereby you have to buy every good fruits to eat it.\n\nThe fruits that we used to eat include mikole, mifuru, etc, nowadays children do not like wild fruits, and they are much interested in eating cultivated fruits which are sold at the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do most children not interested in eating wild fruits nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of changes in life.\n\nWe zigua people are still eating wild fruits such as mangongo, jackfruits, etc; you may eat such fruits and forget about lunch. These fruits have been available since we were still young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, from our experience in this village, which cultural fruits are available in our village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.440768231595584, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to eat fruits such as tamaring fruits, siteti, and olumangwa but nowadays we eat almost all kinds of fruits.\n\nLife in the past period was very good and comfortable because we did not spend much money to get these fruits unlike it is nowadays whereby you have to buy every good fruits to eat it.\n\nThe fruits that we used to eat include mikole, mifuru, etc, nowadays children do not like wild fruits, and they are much interested in eating cultivated fruits which are sold at the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do most children not interested in eating wild fruits nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of changes in life.\n\nWe zigua people are still eating wild fruits such as mangongo, jackfruits, etc; you may eat such fruits and forget about lunch. These fruits have been available since we were still young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, from our experience in this village, which cultural fruits are available in our village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cultural fruits in our village include mkole, tamaring, mangongo are all available, and they are also eaten by children.\n\nCultural fruits are eaten although not more than cultivated and sold fruits.\n\nThere is no big difference in eating cultural and cultivated fruits, only that it depends on one's interest, for instance school children do pick up wild fruits when they are passing through the wild, sometimes when cultivated fruits such as oranges are available they are also bought and eaten. So fruits are eaten depending on their availability or season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which kind of fruit is very helpful to children currently?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.8230758128839817, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of changes in life.\n\nWe zigua people are still eating wild fruits such as mangongo, jackfruits, etc; you may eat such fruits and forget about lunch. These fruits have been available since we were still young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, from our experience in this village, which cultural fruits are available in our village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cultural fruits in our village include mkole, tamaring, mangongo are all available, and they are also eaten by children.\n\nCultural fruits are eaten although not more than cultivated and sold fruits.\n\nThere is no big difference in eating cultural and cultivated fruits, only that it depends on one's interest, for instance school children do pick up wild fruits when they are passing through the wild, sometimes when cultivated fruits such as oranges are available they are also bought and eaten. So fruits are eaten depending on their availability or season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which kind of fruit is very helpful to children currently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mkole is much helpful and liked by most children.\n\nMost children like mkole fruits because it tastes sweet because of containing much content of sugar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare and cook food such as meat, milk, stiff porridge, kale leaves, etc.? Do you experience a difference in preparing such like foods when you compare the past and current periods?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.136750903204424, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cultural fruits in our village include mkole, tamaring, mangongo are all available, and they are also eaten by children.\n\nCultural fruits are eaten although not more than cultivated and sold fruits.\n\nThere is no big difference in eating cultural and cultivated fruits, only that it depends on one's interest, for instance school children do pick up wild fruits when they are passing through the wild, sometimes when cultivated fruits such as oranges are available they are also bought and eaten. So fruits are eaten depending on their availability or season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which kind of fruit is very helpful to children currently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mkole is much helpful and liked by most children.\n\nMost children like mkole fruits because it tastes sweet because of containing much content of sugar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare and cook food such as meat, milk, stiff porridge, kale leaves, etc.? Do you experience a difference in preparing such like foods when you compare the past and current periods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are still preparing milk in the same way currently as it was in the past years, we wash our calabashes, and we milk the cow and use cups to drink our milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about other types of food stuffs?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4852787813382484, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mkole is much helpful and liked by most children.\n\nMost children like mkole fruits because it tastes sweet because of containing much content of sugar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare and cook food such as meat, milk, stiff porridge, kale leaves, etc.? Do you experience a difference in preparing such like foods when you compare the past and current periods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are still preparing milk in the same way currently as it was in the past years, we wash our calabashes, and we milk the cow and use cups to drink our milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about other types of food stuffs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a difference in food preparation between the past and current periods although in the past we were still young and we did not get involved in preparing and cooking food.\n\nNowadays we prepare our food in mixing styles, for instance when you are preparing relish and sauce, we mix different spices and other items such as carrots, green pepper, etc. Thus there is a difference in food preparation and cooking.\n\nIn the past we used to cook beans by boiling and mixing it with onions as well as salt, but nowadays we do cook beans by frying, we use cooking oil, onions, salt and other spices available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare meat nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.8725319792647204, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are still preparing milk in the same way currently as it was in the past years, we wash our calabashes, and we milk the cow and use cups to drink our milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about other types of food stuffs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a difference in food preparation between the past and current periods although in the past we were still young and we did not get involved in preparing and cooking food.\n\nNowadays we prepare our food in mixing styles, for instance when you are preparing relish and sauce, we mix different spices and other items such as carrots, green pepper, etc. Thus there is a difference in food preparation and cooking.\n\nIn the past we used to cook beans by boiling and mixing it with onions as well as salt, but nowadays we do cook beans by frying, we use cooking oil, onions, salt and other spices available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare meat nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to prepare and cook meat by burning it or boiling it, but nowadays we do fry and roast mean using different spices such as tomatoes, onions, cooking oil, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What factors which have brought about changes in diet system?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.191702199183023, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a difference in food preparation between the past and current periods although in the past we were still young and we did not get involved in preparing and cooking food.\n\nNowadays we prepare our food in mixing styles, for instance when you are preparing relish and sauce, we mix different spices and other items such as carrots, green pepper, etc. Thus there is a difference in food preparation and cooking.\n\nIn the past we used to cook beans by boiling and mixing it with onions as well as salt, but nowadays we do cook beans by frying, we use cooking oil, onions, salt and other spices available."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare meat nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to prepare and cook meat by burning it or boiling it, but nowadays we do fry and roast mean using different spices such as tomatoes, onions, cooking oil, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What factors which have brought about changes in diet system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the factors is globalisation and the second is education. Nowadays almost every tribe sends children to school; education has become a priority to many people, that's why there are several changes in diet system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other factors have led to changes in diet system? Ok, explain more about education and globalization."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.546335776870025, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to prepare and cook meat by burning it or boiling it, but nowadays we do fry and roast mean using different spices such as tomatoes, onions, cooking oil, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What factors which have brought about changes in diet system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the factors is globalisation and the second is education. Nowadays almost every tribe sends children to school; education has become a priority to many people, that's why there are several changes in diet system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other factors have led to changes in diet system? Ok, explain more about education and globalization."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have formal education and informal education, informal education enables a person to see what people are doing or performing and try to copy them and perform them, for instance you can copy cooking styles, formal education or school education is provided in schools and classes by professional teachers, you can learn many things about diet and preparing balanced diet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there are some food stuffs you are eating which are the result of formal education such as seminars and trainings?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.940373085411139, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the factors is globalisation and the second is education. Nowadays almost every tribe sends children to school; education has become a priority to many people, that's why there are several changes in diet system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other factors have led to changes in diet system? Ok, explain more about education and globalization."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have formal education and informal education, informal education enables a person to see what people are doing or performing and try to copy them and perform them, for instance you can copy cooking styles, formal education or school education is provided in schools and classes by professional teachers, you can learn many things about diet and preparing balanced diet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there are some food stuffs you are eating which are the result of formal education such as seminars and trainings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through seminars we just do copy some methods and styles in preparing diets.\n\nWhen we speak of globalization, I mean that the world is at your finger tips; you can get to know many things about cookery methods and types of food nutrients such as vitamins, carbohydrates, proteins etc. You can also use smart phones to download some materials about cookery methods and styles."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other factors have led to changes in diet? Try to think of the availability of food items, prices of food items, shifting from one place to another, etc do you think these issues have changed your diet system?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.378192317123488, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have formal education and informal education, informal education enables a person to see what people are doing or performing and try to copy them and perform them, for instance you can copy cooking styles, formal education or school education is provided in schools and classes by professional teachers, you can learn many things about diet and preparing balanced diet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think there are some food stuffs you are eating which are the result of formal education such as seminars and trainings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through seminars we just do copy some methods and styles in preparing diets.\n\nWhen we speak of globalization, I mean that the world is at your finger tips; you can get to know many things about cookery methods and types of food nutrients such as vitamins, carbohydrates, proteins etc. You can also use smart phones to download some materials about cookery methods and styles."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other factors have led to changes in diet? Try to think of the availability of food items, prices of food items, shifting from one place to another, etc do you think these issues have changed your diet system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they have contributed to changes, for instance when you shift your settlements from one place to another, you get to know new cookery techniques from other tribes, for instance through different celebrations and gatherings.\n\nPeople have become educated that's why people have changed their diet system. In the past years there was no education among many people. so we had few methods in cooking foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, you have mentioned globalisation, education, social and tribal interaction and gatherings. What else forces you to change your diet system? Do you have some foods which you have abandon to eat or some new foods which you have started eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.864658130137209, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through seminars we just do copy some methods and styles in preparing diets.\n\nWhen we speak of globalization, I mean that the world is at your finger tips; you can get to know many things about cookery methods and types of food nutrients such as vitamins, carbohydrates, proteins etc. You can also use smart phones to download some materials about cookery methods and styles."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other factors have led to changes in diet? Try to think of the availability of food items, prices of food items, shifting from one place to another, etc do you think these issues have changed your diet system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they have contributed to changes, for instance when you shift your settlements from one place to another, you get to know new cookery techniques from other tribes, for instance through different celebrations and gatherings.\n\nPeople have become educated that's why people have changed their diet system. In the past years there was no education among many people. so we had few methods in cooking foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, you have mentioned globalisation, education, social and tribal interaction and gatherings. What else forces you to change your diet system? Do you have some foods which you have abandon to eat or some new foods which you have started eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our maasai tribe, foods with low value include sardines, fish, eggs, these are less important to eat them among the maasai, but nowadays we have new types of foods to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does diet system get affected by eating sardines among the maasai people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.405175700152454, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they have contributed to changes, for instance when you shift your settlements from one place to another, you get to know new cookery techniques from other tribes, for instance through different celebrations and gatherings.\n\nPeople have become educated that's why people have changed their diet system. In the past years there was no education among many people. so we had few methods in cooking foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, you have mentioned globalisation, education, social and tribal interaction and gatherings. What else forces you to change your diet system? Do you have some foods which you have abandon to eat or some new foods which you have started eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our maasai tribe, foods with low value include sardines, fish, eggs, these are less important to eat them among the maasai, but nowadays we have new types of foods to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does diet system get affected by eating sardines among the maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any effect due to eating sardines among the maasai because we have less interest in it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from sardines, which other food stuffs people are not interested in eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.005750777947171, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our maasai tribe, foods with low value include sardines, fish, eggs, these are less important to eat them among the maasai, but nowadays we have new types of foods to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does diet system get affected by eating sardines among the maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any effect due to eating sardines among the maasai because we have less interest in it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from sardines, which other food stuffs people are not interested in eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Chicken meat was not and is not eaten by older people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why some foods which were not eaten by people in the past, they are currently eaten?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.6730564199413, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any effect due to eating sardines among the maasai because we have less interest in it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from sardines, which other food stuffs people are not interested in eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Chicken meat was not and is not eaten by older people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why some foods which were not eaten by people in the past, they are currently eaten?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of education and development. For instance some standard seven leavers are selected to join some schools in other regions and districts, for that case they come together with other students from different tribes, learn to eat some food stuffs which they did eat before for instance chicken meat, sardines, eggs, this is how changes occur. When he/she comes back home, she/he is already eating such foods"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens when a child needs to eat a certain food which is not prepared and cooked at homes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.414507133268112, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Chicken meat was not and is not eaten by older people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why some foods which were not eaten by people in the past, they are currently eaten?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of education and development. For instance some standard seven leavers are selected to join some schools in other regions and districts, for that case they come together with other students from different tribes, learn to eat some food stuffs which they did eat before for instance chicken meat, sardines, eggs, this is how changes occur. When he/she comes back home, she/he is already eating such foods"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens when a child needs to eat a certain food which is not prepared and cooked at homes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Whey they come back homes they stop eating foods which are not prepared at our homes.\n\nAnother reason is social and tribal interaction, for instance we marry each other, I have been married to a maasai while I am a zigua woman, so such kind of interaction has contributed to diet change, my husband did not eat chicken meat but i persuaded him and he started eating it, my children do eat sardines and fish although they are maasai kids. SOCIAL INTERACTION which involves human mobility from one place to another and education has brought about diet changes, nowadays maasai youths do eat chips, eggs, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you talk about married couples from different tribes contributing to diet changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.12723014807568, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of education and development. For instance some standard seven leavers are selected to join some schools in other regions and districts, for that case they come together with other students from different tribes, learn to eat some food stuffs which they did eat before for instance chicken meat, sardines, eggs, this is how changes occur. When he/she comes back home, she/he is already eating such foods"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens when a child needs to eat a certain food which is not prepared and cooked at homes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Whey they come back homes they stop eating foods which are not prepared at our homes.\n\nAnother reason is social and tribal interaction, for instance we marry each other, I have been married to a maasai while I am a zigua woman, so such kind of interaction has contributed to diet change, my husband did not eat chicken meat but i persuaded him and he started eating it, my children do eat sardines and fish although they are maasai kids. SOCIAL INTERACTION which involves human mobility from one place to another and education has brought about diet changes, nowadays maasai youths do eat chips, eggs, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you talk about married couples from different tribes contributing to diet changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it contributes to diet changes, for instance when a maasai marries a zigua or gogo woman, they finally adapt to eat other kinds of foods from other tribes. If my husband marries a second wife from another tribe such as zigua or gogo tribe, the new married wife will prepare chicken meat or fish for my husband, and he will eat it , I will also learn to prepare such kind of foods from my fellow wife.\n\nIn some circumstances if your husband marries two women from different tribes, then each woman will learn new cooking styles from her fellow wife."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, let you choose one of you to pass us through the main reasons which cause changes in diet within our community."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.808033497861866, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Whey they come back homes they stop eating foods which are not prepared at our homes.\n\nAnother reason is social and tribal interaction, for instance we marry each other, I have been married to a maasai while I am a zigua woman, so such kind of interaction has contributed to diet change, my husband did not eat chicken meat but i persuaded him and he started eating it, my children do eat sardines and fish although they are maasai kids. SOCIAL INTERACTION which involves human mobility from one place to another and education has brought about diet changes, nowadays maasai youths do eat chips, eggs, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you talk about married couples from different tribes contributing to diet changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it contributes to diet changes, for instance when a maasai marries a zigua or gogo woman, they finally adapt to eat other kinds of foods from other tribes. If my husband marries a second wife from another tribe such as zigua or gogo tribe, the new married wife will prepare chicken meat or fish for my husband, and he will eat it , I will also learn to prepare such kind of foods from my fellow wife.\n\nIn some circumstances if your husband marries two women from different tribes, then each woman will learn new cooking styles from her fellow wife."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, let you choose one of you to pass us through the main reasons which cause changes in diet within our community."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have mentioned some factors which have brought about changes in diet within our society, these include globalization, education, social and tribal interaction, human mobility, informal education during celebrations, etc. What do you think is the first reason for changes in diet within our society?\n\nHuman mobility is the first reason for diet changes\n\nTribal interaction especially during marriages\n\nFormal and informal education, specifically school education.\n\nSocial and human mobility has been a major reason for diet changes.\n\nEducation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has education brought about changes in diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.0734822828157147, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have not understood yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You used to drink milk because you considered it as an important food, so does milk still carrying it’s important to date?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past years, we maasai took milk as our staple food, we used to drink milk at any time but nowadays children do not drink milk very much, they are much interested in stiff porridge and rice together with different relish and vegetables.\n\nMilk is still important because it is not used only by maasai people but all the people in our society, for instance if maize flour is finished, then you can give a cup of milk to your kid and spend some hours without eating any other food.\n\nMilk is still important because it is still used by many people in their homes and along the way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you mix up milk and water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just clean the milk calabash for kids, and then you put milk in the cup and balance it with some amount of water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, if you have a single cup of water, how much milk will you mix?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1927580920174607, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past years, we maasai took milk as our staple food, we used to drink milk at any time but nowadays children do not drink milk very much, they are much interested in stiff porridge and rice together with different relish and vegetables.\n\nMilk is still important because it is not used only by maasai people but all the people in our society, for instance if maize flour is finished, then you can give a cup of milk to your kid and spend some hours without eating any other food.\n\nMilk is still important because it is still used by many people in their homes and along the way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you mix up milk and water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just clean the milk calabash for kids, and then you put milk in the cup and balance it with some amount of water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, if you have a single cup of water, how much milk will you mix?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You take a quarter of milk and quarter of water you mix together.\n\nMilk is given to kids, if a kid takes at least a single cup of milk, it gets satisfied and gets asleep, but if I take a single cup of milk, I do not get satisfied."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why don't mature people get satisfied when they take single cups of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3252867689082897, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just clean the milk calabash for kids, and then you put milk in the cup and balance it with some amount of water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, if you have a single cup of water, how much milk will you mix?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You take a quarter of milk and quarter of water you mix together.\n\nMilk is given to kids, if a kid takes at least a single cup of milk, it gets satisfied and gets asleep, but if I take a single cup of milk, I do not get satisfied."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why don't mature people get satisfied when they take single cups of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past milk was a staple food to the maasai, and their stomachs adapted this, but nowadays because we have started eating other kinds of food, that's why even our stomachs have changed their behaviors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does the importance of milk still the same nowadays."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.472540854342544, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You take a quarter of milk and quarter of water you mix together.\n\nMilk is given to kids, if a kid takes at least a single cup of milk, it gets satisfied and gets asleep, but if I take a single cup of milk, I do not get satisfied."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why don't mature people get satisfied when they take single cups of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past milk was a staple food to the maasai, and their stomachs adapted this, but nowadays because we have started eating other kinds of food, that's why even our stomachs have changed their behaviors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does the importance of milk still the same nowadays."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The importance of m ilk is still the same as it was in the past years, although nowadays there is shortage of milk due to shortage of pasture and water for our livestock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of milk in our society?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.6361565048250488, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past milk was a staple food to the maasai, and their stomachs adapted this, but nowadays because we have started eating other kinds of food, that's why even our stomachs have changed their behaviors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does the importance of milk still the same nowadays."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The importance of m ilk is still the same as it was in the past years, although nowadays there is shortage of milk due to shortage of pasture and water for our livestock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of milk in our society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is available in small quantities.\n\nMilk is always available during rainy season whereby there is enough green pasture for our livestock, for that case cows do produce enough milk.\n\nMilk is very scarce due to shortage of pasture, aridity and diseases.\n\nMany cows have died that's why milk has also become very scarce.\n\nWhen a cow is suffering from lung diseases, it will not produce milk, even when a calf is grown up, then milk becomes little."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned aridity, diseases, shortage of pasture, stoppage of milk sucking, what else leads to shortage of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7068405609167209, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The importance of m ilk is still the same as it was in the past years, although nowadays there is shortage of milk due to shortage of pasture and water for our livestock."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about availability of milk in our society?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is available in small quantities.\n\nMilk is always available during rainy season whereby there is enough green pasture for our livestock, for that case cows do produce enough milk.\n\nMilk is very scarce due to shortage of pasture, aridity and diseases.\n\nMany cows have died that's why milk has also become very scarce.\n\nWhen a cow is suffering from lung diseases, it will not produce milk, even when a calf is grown up, then milk becomes little."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned aridity, diseases, shortage of pasture, stoppage of milk sucking, what else leads to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When a calf grows up, then milk will become little because milking stops.\n\nShortage of pasture also leads to shortage of milk.\n\nShortage of pasture should be the first factor for shortage of milk.\n\nThe second factor is stopping of milking when a calf is grown up.\n\nThe third factor is diseases.\n\nAridity is the last factor"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about other factors. Does conflict between villages lead to shortage of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7853784010185787, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is available in small quantities.\n\nMilk is always available during rainy season whereby there is enough green pasture for our livestock, for that case cows do produce enough milk.\n\nMilk is very scarce due to shortage of pasture, aridity and diseases.\n\nMany cows have died that's why milk has also become very scarce.\n\nWhen a cow is suffering from lung diseases, it will not produce milk, even when a calf is grown up, then milk becomes little."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned aridity, diseases, shortage of pasture, stoppage of milk sucking, what else leads to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When a calf grows up, then milk will become little because milking stops.\n\nShortage of pasture also leads to shortage of milk.\n\nShortage of pasture should be the first factor for shortage of milk.\n\nThe second factor is stopping of milking when a calf is grown up.\n\nThe third factor is diseases.\n\nAridity is the last factor"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about other factors. Does conflict between villages lead to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does shortage of pasture lead to shortage of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8726426677984207, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When a calf grows up, then milk will become little because milking stops.\n\nShortage of pasture also leads to shortage of milk.\n\nShortage of pasture should be the first factor for shortage of milk.\n\nThe second factor is stopping of milking when a calf is grown up.\n\nThe third factor is diseases.\n\nAridity is the last factor"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about other factors. Does conflict between villages lead to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does shortage of pasture lead to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When a cow is not satisfied with pasture, then it will not produce enough milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does growth of calves lead to shortage of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9696029642204674, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does shortage of pasture lead to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When a cow is not satisfied with pasture, then it will not produce enough milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does growth of calves lead to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When calves are grown up, the mother cows do stop them from sucking, for that case milk stops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do diseases lead to shortage of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0773366269116305, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When a cow is not satisfied with pasture, then it will not produce enough milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does growth of calves lead to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When calves are grown up, the mother cows do stop them from sucking, for that case milk stops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do diseases lead to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lung diseases and tsetse flies diseases, that is one of the factors for shortage of milk.\n\nAnother diseases is okluu, it attacks cows mouth.\n\nWhen a cow is suffering from any diseases, it cannot produce enough milk because its body does not function to its normal status."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any other views about milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1970406965684783, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When calves are grown up, the mother cows do stop them from sucking, for that case milk stops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do diseases lead to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lung diseases and tsetse flies diseases, that is one of the factors for shortage of milk.\n\nAnother diseases is okluu, it attacks cows mouth.\n\nWhen a cow is suffering from any diseases, it cannot produce enough milk because its body does not function to its normal status."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any other views about milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about cow blood. Do you still use cow blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3300452184094202, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lung diseases and tsetse flies diseases, that is one of the factors for shortage of milk.\n\nAnother diseases is okluu, it attacks cows mouth.\n\nWhen a cow is suffering from any diseases, it cannot produce enough milk because its body does not function to its normal status."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any other views about milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about cow blood. Do you still use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we still use cow blood, for instance if I am pregnant and I fall sick, I f I go the hospital and get examined, If I am found with anemia, then instead of eating fruits to increase blood in my body, I will drink cow blood which is mixed with some honey and herbs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do other tribes apart from the maasai use cow blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4778280204549112, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about cow blood. Do you still use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we still use cow blood, for instance if I am pregnant and I fall sick, I f I go the hospital and get examined, If I am found with anemia, then instead of eating fruits to increase blood in my body, I will drink cow blood which is mixed with some honey and herbs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do other tribes apart from the maasai use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They always use an arrow to stub the neck blood vessels so as to tap blood for drinking. Sometimes we get blood after slaughtering a cow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which group drinks blood more than the other between males and females?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6420311338387903, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we still use cow blood, for instance if I am pregnant and I fall sick, I f I go the hospital and get examined, If I am found with anemia, then instead of eating fruits to increase blood in my body, I will drink cow blood which is mixed with some honey and herbs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do other tribes apart from the maasai use cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They always use an arrow to stub the neck blood vessels so as to tap blood for drinking. Sometimes we get blood after slaughtering a cow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which group drinks blood more than the other between males and females?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both use blood\n\nMen use blood more than women in most circumstances."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is cow blood nowadays still important like it was in the past years?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.824479037598656, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They always use an arrow to stub the neck blood vessels so as to tap blood for drinking. Sometimes we get blood after slaughtering a cow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which group drinks blood more than the other between males and females?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both use blood\n\nMen use blood more than women in most circumstances."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is cow blood nowadays still important like it was in the past years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cow blood is still very important nowadays like it was in the past years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience any difference or change in the use of blood in the current and past periods?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.027198930665173, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both use blood\n\nMen use blood more than women in most circumstances."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is cow blood nowadays still important like it was in the past years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cow blood is still very important nowadays like it was in the past years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience any difference or change in the use of blood in the current and past periods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The importance of using cow blood is still the same.\n\nThere is a difference in the use of cow blood; in the past most people used cow blood to increase blood in human body more especially for the patients, but nowadays some patients do depend on blood from their fellow human beings more especially when a patient is admitted in the hospital.\n\nI think the cow blood is still used to a great extent in adding blood content to our bodies, because in the hospital you may miss someone to donate blood to you but when you come back home you use cow blood and your blood content increases in your body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has the availability of health centers such as hospitals decreased the use of cow blood among the livestock keepers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.252443256294637, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cow blood is still very important nowadays like it was in the past years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience any difference or change in the use of blood in the current and past periods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The importance of using cow blood is still the same.\n\nThere is a difference in the use of cow blood; in the past most people used cow blood to increase blood in human body more especially for the patients, but nowadays some patients do depend on blood from their fellow human beings more especially when a patient is admitted in the hospital.\n\nI think the cow blood is still used to a great extent in adding blood content to our bodies, because in the hospital you may miss someone to donate blood to you but when you come back home you use cow blood and your blood content increases in your body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has the availability of health centers such as hospitals decreased the use of cow blood among the livestock keepers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we use sources, cow blood and human blood so as to maintain the body blood content."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some of you have claimed that there is less use of cow blood nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5027147292162635, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The importance of using cow blood is still the same.\n\nThere is a difference in the use of cow blood; in the past most people used cow blood to increase blood in human body more especially for the patients, but nowadays some patients do depend on blood from their fellow human beings more especially when a patient is admitted in the hospital.\n\nI think the cow blood is still used to a great extent in adding blood content to our bodies, because in the hospital you may miss someone to donate blood to you but when you come back home you use cow blood and your blood content increases in your body."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has the availability of health centers such as hospitals decreased the use of cow blood among the livestock keepers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we use sources, cow blood and human blood so as to maintain the body blood content."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some of you have claimed that there is less use of cow blood nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To some extent there is less use of cow blood, in the past among the maasai, when blood was tapped from the cow, it was put in the calabash and every family member was to drink the blood regardless of sickness or wellness. This was making our bodies very strong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, in which situations do you use cow blood nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.780794143573626, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we use sources, cow blood and human blood so as to maintain the body blood content."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some of you have claimed that there is less use of cow blood nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To some extent there is less use of cow blood, in the past among the maasai, when blood was tapped from the cow, it was put in the calabash and every family member was to drink the blood regardless of sickness or wellness. This was making our bodies very strong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, in which situations do you use cow blood nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we use cow blood if a person is sick, or we use cow blood to maintain health for the aged people"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the pregnant women, aged men and women, do other groups of people use cow blood in this society, for example youths who have gone to school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.089771270637362, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To some extent there is less use of cow blood, in the past among the maasai, when blood was tapped from the cow, it was put in the calabash and every family member was to drink the blood regardless of sickness or wellness. This was making our bodies very strong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, in which situations do you use cow blood nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we use cow blood if a person is sick, or we use cow blood to maintain health for the aged people"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the pregnant women, aged men and women, do other groups of people use cow blood in this society, for example youths who have gone to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Youths who have gone to school do not like to drink cow blood, they prefer milk. Maybe when it happens that a school child has serious fever, it is when the use of cow blood comes in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about shifting cows to other places in search of pasture and water. Do you practice this system?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.3219680784859578, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we use cow blood if a person is sick, or we use cow blood to maintain health for the aged people"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the pregnant women, aged men and women, do other groups of people use cow blood in this society, for example youths who have gone to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Youths who have gone to school do not like to drink cow blood, they prefer milk. Maybe when it happens that a school child has serious fever, it is when the use of cow blood comes in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about shifting cows to other places in search of pasture and water. Do you practice this system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we do i . It is known as lonjo in our vernacular"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When cows have been taken to lonjo, which activities do women who remain at home do perform?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.468853420539953, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Youths who have gone to school do not like to drink cow blood, they prefer milk. Maybe when it happens that a school child has serious fever, it is when the use of cow blood comes in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about shifting cows to other places in search of pasture and water. Do you practice this system?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we do i . It is known as lonjo in our vernacular"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When cows have been taken to lonjo, which activities do women who remain at home do perform?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women always remain at homes to take care of school kids, if there are no school kids, we also accompany men to the lonjo.\n\nIf the family has school kids, then women and school kids will remain at homes, but if there are no school kids and cows have been taken to lonjo, then women will also move to lonjo to accompany their men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When cows have been taken to lonjo, which activities do women who remain at home do perform?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6320593561555032, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we do i . It is known as lonjo in our vernacular"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When cows have been taken to lonjo, which activities do women who remain at home do perform?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women always remain at homes to take care of school kids, if there are no school kids, we also accompany men to the lonjo.\n\nIf the family has school kids, then women and school kids will remain at homes, but if there are no school kids and cows have been taken to lonjo, then women will also move to lonjo to accompany their men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When cows have been taken to lonjo, which activities do women who remain at home do perform?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women always perform sewing activities, preparing food for the family, cleaning the house and rehabilitation of the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When cows have been taken to lonjo, you experience shortage of milk at homes, what do you do to obtain milk for children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8133992846172258, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women always remain at homes to take care of school kids, if there are no school kids, we also accompany men to the lonjo.\n\nIf the family has school kids, then women and school kids will remain at homes, but if there are no school kids and cows have been taken to lonjo, then women will also move to lonjo to accompany their men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When cows have been taken to lonjo, which activities do women who remain at home do perform?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women always perform sewing activities, preparing food for the family, cleaning the house and rehabilitation of the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When cows have been taken to lonjo, you experience shortage of milk at homes, what do you do to obtain milk for children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this situation we always remain with some few cows to milk so as to get some milk for the family. Cows which remain at homes are those with young calves which are still milked. Otherwise you will be going to lonjo area so as to take milk and bring it back to homes for consumption,\n\nif cows have been taken to a far place, then you will have to eat beans and stiff porridge until when cows are brought back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did shifting (taking cows to lonjo) of cows start?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9037769829080285, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women always perform sewing activities, preparing food for the family, cleaning the house and rehabilitation of the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When cows have been taken to lonjo, you experience shortage of milk at homes, what do you do to obtain milk for children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this situation we always remain with some few cows to milk so as to get some milk for the family. Cows which remain at homes are those with young calves which are still milked. Otherwise you will be going to lonjo area so as to take milk and bring it back to homes for consumption,\n\nif cows have been taken to a far place, then you will have to eat beans and stiff porridge until when cows are brought back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did shifting (taking cows to lonjo) of cows start?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Taking cows to lonjo was stimulated by aridity, but since we were still young our parents used to take cows to lonjo more especially during summer season when there is shortage of pasture and water in the nearby grazing places."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do families get affected when cows have been taken to lonjo?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0041966476755873, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this situation we always remain with some few cows to milk so as to get some milk for the family. Cows which remain at homes are those with young calves which are still milked. Otherwise you will be going to lonjo area so as to take milk and bring it back to homes for consumption,\n\nif cows have been taken to a far place, then you will have to eat beans and stiff porridge until when cows are brought back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did shifting (taking cows to lonjo) of cows start?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Taking cows to lonjo was stimulated by aridity, but since we were still young our parents used to take cows to lonjo more especially during summer season when there is shortage of pasture and water in the nearby grazing places."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do families get affected when cows have been taken to lonjo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most families do get affected more especially children and women, because most of these have been used to drink milk every day, so it becomes difficult for them to adapt to new relish and vegetables during meals.\n\nI think there is no such big problem, we always be patient until when cows are back.\n\nIt is really a problem because if you have a young and sucking kid, it will be very difficult for these kids to survive because they are used to drink milk and take porridge which is mixed with milk, so when you start feeding them with porridge mixed with water, they will end up crying and starving until when cows are back.\n\nSometimes when cows were taken to lonjo in the past, we used to buy milk from the factory, but now the factory has now milk because all cows have been taken to lonjo.\n\nKids undergo starvation and malnutrition because they do not like to drink black tea or porridge which is not mixed with milk, they get satisfied even if you have a single cup of milk and mix it with lots of water.\n\nWomen also become unhappy if they take breakfast without any smell of milk.\n\nWomen also become unhappy when they lack milk to drink because of lacking money to buy some milk from the neighbors who have sucking calves and whose cows produce milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do women run bankrupt when cows are taken to lonjo?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1157740529728746, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Taking cows to lonjo was stimulated by aridity, but since we were still young our parents used to take cows to lonjo more especially during summer season when there is shortage of pasture and water in the nearby grazing places."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do families get affected when cows have been taken to lonjo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most families do get affected more especially children and women, because most of these have been used to drink milk every day, so it becomes difficult for them to adapt to new relish and vegetables during meals.\n\nI think there is no such big problem, we always be patient until when cows are back.\n\nIt is really a problem because if you have a young and sucking kid, it will be very difficult for these kids to survive because they are used to drink milk and take porridge which is mixed with milk, so when you start feeding them with porridge mixed with water, they will end up crying and starving until when cows are back.\n\nSometimes when cows were taken to lonjo in the past, we used to buy milk from the factory, but now the factory has now milk because all cows have been taken to lonjo.\n\nKids undergo starvation and malnutrition because they do not like to drink black tea or porridge which is not mixed with milk, they get satisfied even if you have a single cup of milk and mix it with lots of water.\n\nWomen also become unhappy if they take breakfast without any smell of milk.\n\nWomen also become unhappy when they lack milk to drink because of lacking money to buy some milk from the neighbors who have sucking calves and whose cows produce milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do women run bankrupt when cows are taken to lonjo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we run bankrupt, we always ask for money from our husbands, because if milk is not available then women do not get money.\n\nIf a woman earns some money then she is able to buy some domestic items such as soap, match boxes, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about special foods which are prepared and cooked during celebrations such as wedding, initiation ceremonies, etc."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2397489477476384, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most families do get affected more especially children and women, because most of these have been used to drink milk every day, so it becomes difficult for them to adapt to new relish and vegetables during meals.\n\nI think there is no such big problem, we always be patient until when cows are back.\n\nIt is really a problem because if you have a young and sucking kid, it will be very difficult for these kids to survive because they are used to drink milk and take porridge which is mixed with milk, so when you start feeding them with porridge mixed with water, they will end up crying and starving until when cows are back.\n\nSometimes when cows were taken to lonjo in the past, we used to buy milk from the factory, but now the factory has now milk because all cows have been taken to lonjo.\n\nKids undergo starvation and malnutrition because they do not like to drink black tea or porridge which is not mixed with milk, they get satisfied even if you have a single cup of milk and mix it with lots of water.\n\nWomen also become unhappy if they take breakfast without any smell of milk.\n\nWomen also become unhappy when they lack milk to drink because of lacking money to buy some milk from the neighbors who have sucking calves and whose cows produce milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do women run bankrupt when cows are taken to lonjo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we run bankrupt, we always ask for money from our husbands, because if milk is not available then women do not get money.\n\nIf a woman earns some money then she is able to buy some domestic items such as soap, match boxes, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about special foods which are prepared and cooked during celebrations such as wedding, initiation ceremonies, etc."}, {"role": "user", "content": "During some celebrations we prepare rice, pilaf and stiff porridge.\n\nWe always prepare rice, pilaf, soda, water such as masafi water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which kind of water did you use to drink during celebrations?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3774988308307095, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we run bankrupt, we always ask for money from our husbands, because if milk is not available then women do not get money.\n\nIf a woman earns some money then she is able to buy some domestic items such as soap, match boxes, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about special foods which are prepared and cooked during celebrations such as wedding, initiation ceremonies, etc."}, {"role": "user", "content": "During some celebrations we prepare rice, pilaf and stiff porridge.\n\nWe always prepare rice, pilaf, soda, water such as masafi water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which kind of water did you use to drink during celebrations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to drink water from rivers and wells."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has happened until you started drinking water processed from industries?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.530554256478566, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "During some celebrations we prepare rice, pilaf and stiff porridge.\n\nWe always prepare rice, pilaf, soda, water such as masafi water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which kind of water did you use to drink during celebrations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to drink water from rivers and wells."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has happened until you started drinking water processed from industries?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of social interaction and human mobility, for instance when you are invited at a certain ceremony, you find bottled water prepared for the guests, then you are forced to copy and do the same when you happen to have a ceremony in your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did rice and pilaf turn to be very important in social celebrations?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7006158405317398, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to drink water from rivers and wells."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has happened until you started drinking water processed from industries?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of social interaction and human mobility, for instance when you are invited at a certain ceremony, you find bottled water prepared for the guests, then you are forced to copy and do the same when you happen to have a ceremony in your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did rice and pilaf turn to be very important in social celebrations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reason is that rice and pilaf is prepared in small pans, and it is easy to prepare for crowds of people, but it takes much time to prepare stiff porridge for crowds of people.\n\nCooking stiff porridge for many people is a bit difficult compared to preparation of rice and pilaf.\n\nRice and pilaf are also easy to share on different plates and distribute them to the guests unlike it is for stiff porridge. You can use the same plate to put rice and its relish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why rice and pilaf are very important for age group ceremonies?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8895731561463776, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of social interaction and human mobility, for instance when you are invited at a certain ceremony, you find bottled water prepared for the guests, then you are forced to copy and do the same when you happen to have a ceremony in your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did rice and pilaf turn to be very important in social celebrations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reason is that rice and pilaf is prepared in small pans, and it is easy to prepare for crowds of people, but it takes much time to prepare stiff porridge for crowds of people.\n\nCooking stiff porridge for many people is a bit difficult compared to preparation of rice and pilaf.\n\nRice and pilaf are also easy to share on different plates and distribute them to the guests unlike it is for stiff porridge. You can use the same plate to put rice and its relish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why rice and pilaf are very important for age group ceremonies?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These are not only important for age group ceremonies but also for other ceremonies, for instance when someone attends a ceremony and eat stiff porridge, he/she will not tell anything about a ceremony but when he/she eat rice, meat and pilaf at the ceremony, she/he will tell a lot about that particular ceremony. So many people are interested in eating rice and pilaf at different ceremonies."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other factors have led to preparation of new types of food stuffs and not the traditional foods we used to eat in the past years?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0995257290515306, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reason is that rice and pilaf is prepared in small pans, and it is easy to prepare for crowds of people, but it takes much time to prepare stiff porridge for crowds of people.\n\nCooking stiff porridge for many people is a bit difficult compared to preparation of rice and pilaf.\n\nRice and pilaf are also easy to share on different plates and distribute them to the guests unlike it is for stiff porridge. You can use the same plate to put rice and its relish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why rice and pilaf are very important for age group ceremonies?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These are not only important for age group ceremonies but also for other ceremonies, for instance when someone attends a ceremony and eat stiff porridge, he/she will not tell anything about a ceremony but when he/she eat rice, meat and pilaf at the ceremony, she/he will tell a lot about that particular ceremony. So many people are interested in eating rice and pilaf at different ceremonies."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other factors have led to preparation of new types of food stuffs and not the traditional foods we used to eat in the past years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Many people do eat the same foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you share food during celebrations?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3328063656128117, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These are not only important for age group ceremonies but also for other ceremonies, for instance when someone attends a ceremony and eat stiff porridge, he/she will not tell anything about a ceremony but when he/she eat rice, meat and pilaf at the ceremony, she/he will tell a lot about that particular ceremony. So many people are interested in eating rice and pilaf at different ceremonies."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other factors have led to preparation of new types of food stuffs and not the traditional foods we used to eat in the past years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Many people do eat the same foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you share food during celebrations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We share some food on every plate and distribute each plate to individuals; this means that one plate one person. In the past years, we used to gather around one plate and share the same plate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about eating meat, when you compare the current and past periods?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.592007072903124, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Many people do eat the same foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you share food during celebrations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We share some food on every plate and distribute each plate to individuals; this means that one plate one person. In the past years, we used to gather around one plate and share the same plate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about eating meat, when you compare the current and past periods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays meat is prepared by frying or roasting and it is put on different plates and everybody uses his own plate, while in the past years, we used a single plate to eat meat. In short we used to share the same plate of meat.\n\nEducation has been one of the reasons why people nowadays eat food on everybody’s plate, there is no sharing of a plate of food. When our kids come from schools they come with new living styles more especially on table manners."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you store food nowadays, for instance vegetables, meat, etc."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.657785636559027, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We share some food on every plate and distribute each plate to individuals; this means that one plate one person. In the past years, we used to gather around one plate and share the same plate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about eating meat, when you compare the current and past periods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays meat is prepared by frying or roasting and it is put on different plates and everybody uses his own plate, while in the past years, we used a single plate to eat meat. In short we used to share the same plate of meat.\n\nEducation has been one of the reasons why people nowadays eat food on everybody’s plate, there is no sharing of a plate of food. When our kids come from schools they come with new living styles more especially on table manners."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you store food nowadays, for instance vegetables, meat, etc."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays you just fry and dry vegetables, then we keep them in a cool place for the following days.\n\nIn keeping meat, we dry meat and keep it in a cool place; it can be stored even for two weeks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When a goat is slaughtered, which parts are eaten by men and which parts are eaten by women or elders according to maasai traditions?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.73087292951003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays meat is prepared by frying or roasting and it is put on different plates and everybody uses his own plate, while in the past years, we used a single plate to eat meat. In short we used to share the same plate of meat.\n\nEducation has been one of the reasons why people nowadays eat food on everybody’s plate, there is no sharing of a plate of food. When our kids come from schools they come with new living styles more especially on table manners."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you store food nowadays, for instance vegetables, meat, etc."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays you just fry and dry vegetables, then we keep them in a cool place for the following days.\n\nIn keeping meat, we dry meat and keep it in a cool place; it can be stored even for two weeks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When a goat is slaughtered, which parts are eaten by men and which parts are eaten by women or elders according to maasai traditions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Specifically Men always eat the neck meat, women eat the small intestine meat, and the rest of the meat is eaten by all women, men and youths."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do men eat the neck meat of the goat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8120810327889222, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays you just fry and dry vegetables, then we keep them in a cool place for the following days.\n\nIn keeping meat, we dry meat and keep it in a cool place; it can be stored even for two weeks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When a goat is slaughtered, which parts are eaten by men and which parts are eaten by women or elders according to maasai traditions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Specifically Men always eat the neck meat, women eat the small intestine meat, and the rest of the meat is eaten by all women, men and youths."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do men eat the neck meat of the goat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has been a taboo among the maasai. When you slaughter a goat, you just burn meat, cut it into pieces and put them on the plate ready for eating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do women eat intestine meat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9023122586543579, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Specifically Men always eat the neck meat, women eat the small intestine meat, and the rest of the meat is eaten by all women, men and youths."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do men eat the neck meat of the goat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has been a taboo among the maasai. When you slaughter a goat, you just burn meat, cut it into pieces and put them on the plate ready for eating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do women eat intestine meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is a good meat. Women do eat intestine meat because we found our mothers eating intestine meat, so we also grew while eating intestine meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens when a man eats intestine meat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0025691762826199, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has been a taboo among the maasai. When you slaughter a goat, you just burn meat, cut it into pieces and put them on the plate ready for eating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do women eat intestine meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is a good meat. Women do eat intestine meat because we found our mothers eating intestine meat, so we also grew while eating intestine meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens when a man eats intestine meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes they eat the big goat, but not regularly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the zigua tribe, do you eat some goat meat depending on sex and age group?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.113965751425133, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is a good meat. Women do eat intestine meat because we found our mothers eating intestine meat, so we also grew while eating intestine meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens when a man eats intestine meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes they eat the big goat, but not regularly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the zigua tribe, do you eat some goat meat depending on sex and age group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there is certain part of the meat which is considered to be of honor and it is to be eaten by men only, otherwise you can be punished. For instance if you slaughter chicken, a man has to eat the liver and gizzard; this is like intestine meat for the maasai men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience any difference or change in eating goat meat depending on sex and age group?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2377397238057035, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes they eat the big goat, but not regularly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the zigua tribe, do you eat some goat meat depending on sex and age group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there is certain part of the meat which is considered to be of honor and it is to be eaten by men only, otherwise you can be punished. For instance if you slaughter chicken, a man has to eat the liver and gizzard; this is like intestine meat for the maasai men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience any difference or change in eating goat meat depending on sex and age group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which punishment will a man receive when he eats meat of the different part?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.375266359784115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there is certain part of the meat which is considered to be of honor and it is to be eaten by men only, otherwise you can be punished. For instance if you slaughter chicken, a man has to eat the liver and gizzard; this is like intestine meat for the maasai men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience any difference or change in eating goat meat depending on sex and age group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which punishment will a man receive when he eats meat of the different part?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any punishment to men, only if a youth eats neck meat, then a youth will be fined."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you still experience these punishments?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.528073733093461, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which punishment will a man receive when he eats meat of the different part?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any punishment to men, only if a youth eats neck meat, then a youth will be fined."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you still experience these punishments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Punishments have changed although, most of the people do obey and respect their traditions and customs, when they slaughter a goat, even if a man is absent, the neck meat will be kept for him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any additional view on eating goat meat depending on sex and age group? How do you perceive this tradition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.697859703437179, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any punishment to men, only if a youth eats neck meat, then a youth will be fined."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you still experience these punishments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Punishments have changed although, most of the people do obey and respect their traditions and customs, when they slaughter a goat, even if a man is absent, the neck meat will be kept for him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any additional view on eating goat meat depending on sex and age group? How do you perceive this tradition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't have any opinion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent have men been affected due to diet changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8865107815968654, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Punishments have changed although, most of the people do obey and respect their traditions and customs, when they slaughter a goat, even if a man is absent, the neck meat will be kept for him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any additional view on eating goat meat depending on sex and age group? How do you perceive this tradition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't have any opinion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent have men been affected due to diet changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The effect has been being charged with fines when someone eats meat from the neck of the goat, first of all the man is denied a wife and charged with fines, when he pays fines then his wife gets released.\n\nSome men do become weak, they lose strength to perform farm activities. They end up roaming around in the streets."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent have women been affected due to diet changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.0961230906631836, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't have any opinion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent have men been affected due to diet changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The effect has been being charged with fines when someone eats meat from the neck of the goat, first of all the man is denied a wife and charged with fines, when he pays fines then his wife gets released.\n\nSome men do become weak, they lose strength to perform farm activities. They end up roaming around in the streets."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent have women been affected due to diet changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women have also been affected by changes in diet since some of women do become extra fat because they eat too much and different food stuffs, this makes some women to stop performing some activities since the body seems to be heavy.\n\nIn the past big fat women were available but they were very active in performing different activities,Nowadays big fat women are very reluctant because their bodies are nt physically fit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent have children been affected due to diet changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2179145451813151, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The effect has been being charged with fines when someone eats meat from the neck of the goat, first of all the man is denied a wife and charged with fines, when he pays fines then his wife gets released.\n\nSome men do become weak, they lose strength to perform farm activities. They end up roaming around in the streets."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent have women been affected due to diet changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women have also been affected by changes in diet since some of women do become extra fat because they eat too much and different food stuffs, this makes some women to stop performing some activities since the body seems to be heavy.\n\nIn the past big fat women were available but they were very active in performing different activities,Nowadays big fat women are very reluctant because their bodies are nt physically fit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent have children been affected due to diet changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If kids have not taken enough porridge, they just end up crying.\n\nIn our society, we normally feed our kids with other food stuffs when they are above six months, below six months kids always feed on breastfeeding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens to children when they eat different food stuffs nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3532383835347945, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women have also been affected by changes in diet since some of women do become extra fat because they eat too much and different food stuffs, this makes some women to stop performing some activities since the body seems to be heavy.\n\nIn the past big fat women were available but they were very active in performing different activities,Nowadays big fat women are very reluctant because their bodies are nt physically fit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent have children been affected due to diet changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If kids have not taken enough porridge, they just end up crying.\n\nIn our society, we normally feed our kids with other food stuffs when they are above six months, below six months kids always feed on breastfeeding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens to children when they eat different food stuffs nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They become healthier"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you choose the type of food to prepare in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5035982039275495, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If kids have not taken enough porridge, they just end up crying.\n\nIn our society, we normally feed our kids with other food stuffs when they are above six months, below six months kids always feed on breastfeeding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What happens to children when they eat different food stuffs nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They become healthier"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you choose the type of food to prepare in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I f you have flour you will prepare stiff porridge, if you have maize, you may prepare cracked and cooked maize.\n\nYou can change diet according to your decision or interest, for instance if like stiff porridge during lunch, then you can prepare rice for dinner, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you mean that you prepare food depending on your interest and availability of chosen food item."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6706646710306106, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They become healthier"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you choose the type of food to prepare in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I f you have flour you will prepare stiff porridge, if you have maize, you may prepare cracked and cooked maize.\n\nYou can change diet according to your decision or interest, for instance if like stiff porridge during lunch, then you can prepare rice for dinner, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you mean that you prepare food depending on your interest and availability of chosen food item."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now which factors do you consider in choosing certain type of food to cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8562940789229005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I f you have flour you will prepare stiff porridge, if you have maize, you may prepare cracked and cooked maize.\n\nYou can change diet according to your decision or interest, for instance if like stiff porridge during lunch, then you can prepare rice for dinner, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you mean that you prepare food depending on your interest and availability of chosen food item."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now which factors do you consider in choosing certain type of food to cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If I eat stiff porridge, then the next meal I will eat rice if I have money to buy rice, If I don't have money to buy rice, then I will continue eating the same food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from having money, what else do we consider in choosing type of food to cook or eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0625489765810006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now which factors do you consider in choosing certain type of food to cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If I eat stiff porridge, then the next meal I will eat rice if I have money to buy rice, If I don't have money to buy rice, then I will continue eating the same food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from having money, what else do we consider in choosing type of food to cook or eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes I decide to prepare rice for dinner so as to have left over for the breakfast\n\nI think it depends on one's interest in a certain type of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, let one of you pass us through the factors for choosing type of food to cook. You have mentioned factors such as food availability, food preferences, availability of money, budget for the breakfast and last is just to change diet. Now just arrange these factors from the first to the last factor."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2917210850900007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If I eat stiff porridge, then the next meal I will eat rice if I have money to buy rice, If I don't have money to buy rice, then I will continue eating the same food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from having money, what else do we consider in choosing type of food to cook or eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes I decide to prepare rice for dinner so as to have left over for the breakfast\n\nI think it depends on one's interest in a certain type of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, let one of you pass us through the factors for choosing type of food to cook. You have mentioned factors such as food availability, food preferences, availability of money, budget for the breakfast and last is just to change diet. Now just arrange these factors from the first to the last factor."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first factor is just for the case of changing diet.\n\nThe first factor is the availability of certain type of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the first factor for choosing type of food to eat is food availability."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4352456501000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes I decide to prepare rice for dinner so as to have left over for the breakfast\n\nI think it depends on one's interest in a certain type of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, let one of you pass us through the factors for choosing type of food to cook. You have mentioned factors such as food availability, food preferences, availability of money, budget for the breakfast and last is just to change diet. Now just arrange these factors from the first to the last factor."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first factor is just for the case of changing diet.\n\nThe first factor is the availability of certain type of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the first factor for choosing type of food to eat is food availability."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The second factor is to budget for the breakfast.\n\nTHE third factor is availability of money which enables you to buy food item which you want to eat.\n\nThe fourth factor is food preference.\n\nThe last factor is just for the sake of changing diet, because availability of money means you will buy food of your interest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you decide to eat certain type of food because of its availability?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5947173890000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first factor is just for the case of changing diet.\n\nThe first factor is the availability of certain type of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the first factor for choosing type of food to eat is food availability."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The second factor is to budget for the breakfast.\n\nTHE third factor is availability of money which enables you to buy food item which you want to eat.\n\nThe fourth factor is food preference.\n\nThe last factor is just for the sake of changing diet, because availability of money means you will buy food of your interest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you decide to eat certain type of food because of its availability?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do decide to eat certain food stuff because of its availability, this is accompanied by being economic more especially for the case of women because maasai women do depend on their husbands to get money for domestic uses, so a maasai woman has to be extra economic so as to budget the little amount of money she is given by her husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said the last factor for you to choose type of food to eat is just for the case of changing diet, why?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7719082100000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The second factor is to budget for the breakfast.\n\nTHE third factor is availability of money which enables you to buy food item which you want to eat.\n\nThe fourth factor is food preference.\n\nThe last factor is just for the sake of changing diet, because availability of money means you will buy food of your interest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you decide to eat certain type of food because of its availability?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do decide to eat certain food stuff because of its availability, this is accompanied by being economic more especially for the case of women because maasai women do depend on their husbands to get money for domestic uses, so a maasai woman has to be extra economic so as to budget the little amount of money she is given by her husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said the last factor for you to choose type of food to eat is just for the case of changing diet, why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will change diet depending on the available food items, if you have meat available, you will automatically eat meat and not beans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One of the factors for you to choose type of food to eat is availability of money and food preference, what did you mean?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9687869000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do decide to eat certain food stuff because of its availability, this is accompanied by being economic more especially for the case of women because maasai women do depend on their husbands to get money for domestic uses, so a maasai woman has to be extra economic so as to budget the little amount of money she is given by her husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said the last factor for you to choose type of food to eat is just for the case of changing diet, why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will change diet depending on the available food items, if you have meat available, you will automatically eat meat and not beans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One of the factors for you to choose type of food to eat is availability of money and food preference, what did you mean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If I have money I will buy what I prefer, for instance If I like cassava or rice but I have no money to buy them, I will just look at them and go away."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For the case of livestock keepers society, Do you have a tendency of buying items from the market?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.1875410000000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will change diet depending on the available food items, if you have meat available, you will automatically eat meat and not beans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One of the factors for you to choose type of food to eat is availability of money and food preference, what did you mean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If I have money I will buy what I prefer, for instance If I like cassava or rice but I have no money to buy them, I will just look at them and go away."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For the case of livestock keepers society, Do you have a tendency of buying items from the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we always go to buy food items from the market such as vegetables, potatoes, etc this is because children do not like to eat the same food every day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you use to go to buy items from the market in the past years?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.31949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If I have money I will buy what I prefer, for instance If I like cassava or rice but I have no money to buy them, I will just look at them and go away."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For the case of livestock keepers society, Do you have a tendency of buying items from the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we always go to buy food items from the market such as vegetables, potatoes, etc this is because children do not like to eat the same food every day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you use to go to buy items from the market in the past years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past years we did not go to buy items from the market, we just remain at homes just eating milk throughout the month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do to earn money when milk is not available to sell it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4661, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we always go to buy food items from the market such as vegetables, potatoes, etc this is because children do not like to eat the same food every day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you use to go to buy items from the market in the past years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past years we did not go to buy items from the market, we just remain at homes just eating milk throughout the month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do to earn money when milk is not available to sell it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just go to the market and buy beans, ngongwe, okra and use some milk if it is available, then you prepare food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get to know or hear about education diet and nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.629, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past years we did not go to buy items from the market, we just remain at homes just eating milk throughout the month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do to earn money when milk is not available to sell it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just go to the market and buy beans, ngongwe, okra and use some milk if it is available, then you prepare food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get to know or hear about education diet and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have never got any training about diet or nutrition.\n\nWe just listen from the radio programs and Tv sessions.\n\nWe also get some group projects, although in groups there is no agenda about diet and nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have radios and Tv to listen and watch cookery programs?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just go to the market and buy beans, ngongwe, okra and use some milk if it is available, then you prepare food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get to know or hear about education diet and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have never got any training about diet or nutrition.\n\nWe just listen from the radio programs and Tv sessions.\n\nWe also get some group projects, although in groups there is no agenda about diet and nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have radios and Tv to listen and watch cookery programs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we have radios and Tvs, we always listen to cookery programs and try to practice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think radios and Tvs are good sources for women to get information about diet and nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have never got any training about diet or nutrition.\n\nWe just listen from the radio programs and Tv sessions.\n\nWe also get some group projects, although in groups there is no agenda about diet and nutrition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have radios and Tv to listen and watch cookery programs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we have radios and Tvs, we always listen to cookery programs and try to practice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think radios and Tvs are good sources for women to get information about diet and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are important\n\nBoth radios and Tvs are very important in delivering information about diet and nutrition\n\nAt Kambala, radios are more important than Tvs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do these diet and nutrition information useful to people in daily life?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we have radios and Tvs, we always listen to cookery programs and try to practice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think radios and Tvs are good sources for women to get information about diet and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are important\n\nBoth radios and Tvs are very important in delivering information about diet and nutrition\n\nAt Kambala, radios are more important than Tvs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do these diet and nutrition information useful to people in daily life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "YES, If I have heard about them then I will have to use them and practice them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you want to get information about diet and nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are important\n\nBoth radios and Tvs are very important in delivering information about diet and nutrition\n\nAt Kambala, radios are more important than Tvs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do these diet and nutrition information useful to people in daily life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "YES, If I have heard about them then I will have to use them and practice them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you want to get information about diet and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They should come and provide trainings accordingly.\n\nThey should come to us through our village leaders and provide education about diet.\n\nThey should come and teach us as you have done today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Should the information be passed through brochures, radios, Tvs?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00000:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "YES, If I have heard about them then I will have to use them and practice them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you want to get information about diet and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They should come and provide trainings accordingly.\n\nThey should come to us through our village leaders and provide education about diet.\n\nThey should come and teach us as you have done today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Should the information be passed through brochures, radios, Tvs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They should bring this information through Televisions because everybody will watch.\n\nI think it should be passed through seminars and trainings like we are doing now because not everybody has a Tv."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have reached the end of our discussion. Do you have any additional views?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.858365768684122, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that my participation is voluntary, and then I am free to withdraw at any time without giving any reason. I also understand that I can decline to answer any questions during the interview. Yeah.\n\nI understand that information collected during my interview may be looked at by other researchers from Newcastle University who are working on or assisting with the study I give permission for these individuals to have access to this information."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand the information collected during the interview may be shared with other researchers for use and future research or teaching purposes and that the data will be thoroughly anonymize first"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that the interview will be audio video recorded typed out and that all my identifying personal details will be removed. Yes.\n\nI understand the direct quotations may be taken from what I say and use in research and publications, but that I will not be identifiable from these quotations. Yeah.\n\nI agree to take part in the above study\n\nYes. Excellent. There are just two other things here. If you would like to receive a copy of the research findings. Upon completion of this study, you can tell me that. Now, or you can email me. You know what I'm"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.287073076315691, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand the information collected during the interview may be shared with other researchers for use and future research or teaching purposes and that the data will be thoroughly anonymize first"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that the interview will be audio video recorded typed out and that all my identifying personal details will be removed. Yes.\n\nI understand the direct quotations may be taken from what I say and use in research and publications, but that I will not be identifiable from these quotations. Yeah.\n\nI agree to take part in the above study\n\nYes. Excellent. There are just two other things here. If you would like to receive a copy of the research findings. Upon completion of this study, you can tell me that. Now, or you can email me. You know what I'm"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Interested"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. So I'll send those to the email address that we've corresponded on\n\nAnd if you'd like to receive a hard copy of the study documents by mail. I'm happy to send those to you, but I would need your mailing address for that."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.763414529239657, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that the interview will be audio video recorded typed out and that all my identifying personal details will be removed. Yes.\n\nI understand the direct quotations may be taken from what I say and use in research and publications, but that I will not be identifiable from these quotations. Yeah.\n\nI agree to take part in the above study\n\nYes. Excellent. There are just two other things here. If you would like to receive a copy of the research findings. Upon completion of this study, you can tell me that. Now, or you can email me. You know what I'm"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Interested"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. So I'll send those to the email address that we've corresponded on\n\nAnd if you'd like to receive a hard copy of the study documents by mail. I'm happy to send those to you, but I would need your mailing address for that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now, that's fine enough. Great. Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right, so that's that way. So we can go ahead and get started here. So you have one child. Is that right or one child in the age group?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.292682810266285, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Interested"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. So I'll send those to the email address that we've corresponded on\n\nAnd if you'd like to receive a hard copy of the study documents by mail. I'm happy to send those to you, but I would need your mailing address for that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now, that's fine enough. Great. Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right, so that's that way. So we can go ahead and get started here. So you have one child. Is that right or one child in the age group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s right, one child."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about them. What's their name? How old are they? All that, all that good stuff."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6585364558514284, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now, that's fine enough. Great. Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right, so that's that way. So we can go ahead and get started here. So you have one child. Is that right or one child in the age group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s right, one child."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about them. What's their name? How old are they? All that, all that good stuff."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He's a little boy called [Child], he is four and a bit now, due to start school in September. He was very premature and so that's something that we take into account when we're thinking about things like his health, but he hasn’t got any lasting effects from that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, yeah. And how's he doing, he hasn't he hadn't started reception yet, right? So he's been home through all this?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.065040506501587, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s right, one child."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about them. What's their name? How old are they? All that, all that good stuff."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He's a little boy called [Child], he is four and a bit now, due to start school in September. He was very premature and so that's something that we take into account when we're thinking about things like his health, but he hasn’t got any lasting effects from that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, yeah. And how's he doing, he hasn't he hadn't started reception yet, right? So he's been home through all this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, thats right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh huh. Oh, nice. Yeah. How has he been enjoying having everyone at home most of the time now?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.405600562779542, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He's a little boy called [Child], he is four and a bit now, due to start school in September. He was very premature and so that's something that we take into account when we're thinking about things like his health, but he hasn’t got any lasting effects from that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, yeah. And how's he doing, he hasn't he hadn't started reception yet, right? So he's been home through all this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, thats right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh huh. Oh, nice. Yeah. How has he been enjoying having everyone at home most of the time now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's been interesting. He's coped quite well with it to be, to be fair. But he was able to go back to his nursery three weeks ago and he's absolutely loving being amongst some of his peers. With him being an only child. It's a bit boring for him to be home with us all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that social interaction with kids his age, I'm sure that's that's very important. I think a lot of the time for for young children, it's almost harder for the parents to adapt to the change than it is for the children."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.7840006253106018, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, thats right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh huh. Oh, nice. Yeah. How has he been enjoying having everyone at home most of the time now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's been interesting. He's coped quite well with it to be, to be fair. But he was able to go back to his nursery three weeks ago and he's absolutely loving being amongst some of his peers. With him being an only child. It's a bit boring for him to be home with us all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that social interaction with kids his age, I'm sure that's that's very important. I think a lot of the time for for young children, it's almost harder for the parents to adapt to the change than it is for the children."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me a little bit about what you know about the flu? Sort of your first impressions when you hear the word flu, any symptoms, kind of, what do you think of when you hear the word flu?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.0933340281228907, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's been interesting. He's coped quite well with it to be, to be fair. But he was able to go back to his nursery three weeks ago and he's absolutely loving being amongst some of his peers. With him being an only child. It's a bit boring for him to be home with us all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that social interaction with kids his age, I'm sure that's that's very important. I think a lot of the time for for young children, it's almost harder for the parents to adapt to the change than it is for the children."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me a little bit about what you know about the flu? Sort of your first impressions when you hear the word flu, any symptoms, kind of, what do you think of when you hear the word flu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And well I think flu is quite a, quite severe illness really. And I believe I've only had proper flu once. I think the word flu gets bandied around quite light heartedly sometimes when to me, proper flu is it, is a is, an illness that brings coughing, trouble breathing, kind of cold symptoms, but my experience of it was basically a week of being really, really ill. So like I say that was only once in my life. It's, it's, it's something serious and it obviously can have potential complications like pneumonia. So it's not something that I would take lightly. personally"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So do you worry about [Child] getting the flu or is it something that you think is mostly a concern for adults, or can you give me a sense for that?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3259266979143227, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me a little bit about what you know about the flu? Sort of your first impressions when you hear the word flu, any symptoms, kind of, what do you think of when you hear the word flu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And well I think flu is quite a, quite severe illness really. And I believe I've only had proper flu once. I think the word flu gets bandied around quite light heartedly sometimes when to me, proper flu is it, is a is, an illness that brings coughing, trouble breathing, kind of cold symptoms, but my experience of it was basically a week of being really, really ill. So like I say that was only once in my life. It's, it's, it's something serious and it obviously can have potential complications like pneumonia. So it's not something that I would take lightly. personally"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So do you worry about [Child] getting the flu or is it something that you think is mostly a concern for adults, or can you give me a sense for that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I don't know whether I i would say I worry about him getting it. And I think it's probably unlikely that he's gonna get it. It is a is a seasonal thing every year, isn't it. So there is always the potential."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, sure. So it sounds like what you're saying is, like, it's not something you are actively worrying about but its not something that, you know, you would ever want him to have."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.5843629976825806, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And well I think flu is quite a, quite severe illness really. And I believe I've only had proper flu once. I think the word flu gets bandied around quite light heartedly sometimes when to me, proper flu is it, is a is, an illness that brings coughing, trouble breathing, kind of cold symptoms, but my experience of it was basically a week of being really, really ill. So like I say that was only once in my life. It's, it's, it's something serious and it obviously can have potential complications like pneumonia. So it's not something that I would take lightly. personally"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So do you worry about [Child] getting the flu or is it something that you think is mostly a concern for adults, or can you give me a sense for that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I don't know whether I i would say I worry about him getting it. And I think it's probably unlikely that he's gonna get it. It is a is a seasonal thing every year, isn't it. So there is always the potential."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, sure. So it sounds like what you're saying is, like, it's not something you are actively worrying about but its not something that, you know, you would ever want him to have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you explain to me what do you think getting sick with the flu is like specifically for children like what, what would you expect to see if your son was getting the flu?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7604033307584228, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I don't know whether I i would say I worry about him getting it. And I think it's probably unlikely that he's gonna get it. It is a is a seasonal thing every year, isn't it. So there is always the potential."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, sure. So it sounds like what you're saying is, like, it's not something you are actively worrying about but its not something that, you know, you would ever want him to have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you explain to me what do you think getting sick with the flu is like specifically for children like what, what would you expect to see if your son was getting the flu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm not, I'm not really sure whether I have an expectation of that. I assume he would present with usual cough or cold kind of symptoms, but be very ill with that for a.. Well not very ill, but more than a normal cold if that makes any sense. I don't particularly know anything really about how flu would affect a child versus how it would affect an adult. But again, like I said with with him being very premature, he was born at 29 weeks gestation, and he had chronic lung disease due to ventilation and and obviously lung immaturity. And so anything like that, although we don't believe he has any lasting complications from that, there is that little bit of that at the back of me mind going \"Well, I wouldn't really want him to get something that's going to be heavy on the chest\". [Inaudible]... even if [Inaudible]... speak well...[Inaudible]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah that makes sense why, you know, even if there's no lasting effects I can see why you wouldn't you know you wouldn't be wanting to take any chances with it."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.956003700842692, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhm, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you explain to me what do you think getting sick with the flu is like specifically for children like what, what would you expect to see if your son was getting the flu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm not, I'm not really sure whether I have an expectation of that. I assume he would present with usual cough or cold kind of symptoms, but be very ill with that for a.. Well not very ill, but more than a normal cold if that makes any sense. I don't particularly know anything really about how flu would affect a child versus how it would affect an adult. But again, like I said with with him being very premature, he was born at 29 weeks gestation, and he had chronic lung disease due to ventilation and and obviously lung immaturity. And so anything like that, although we don't believe he has any lasting complications from that, there is that little bit of that at the back of me mind going \"Well, I wouldn't really want him to get something that's going to be heavy on the chest\". [Inaudible]... even if [Inaudible]... speak well...[Inaudible]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah that makes sense why, you know, even if there's no lasting effects I can see why you wouldn't you know you wouldn't be wanting to take any chances with it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think it's just something that kind of in the back of my mind really"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So do you know anyone whose child has gotten sick with the flu, maybe like any of his friends or, you know, people that you know with children who might be around his age?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.173337445380769, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm not, I'm not really sure whether I have an expectation of that. I assume he would present with usual cough or cold kind of symptoms, but be very ill with that for a.. Well not very ill, but more than a normal cold if that makes any sense. I don't particularly know anything really about how flu would affect a child versus how it would affect an adult. But again, like I said with with him being very premature, he was born at 29 weeks gestation, and he had chronic lung disease due to ventilation and and obviously lung immaturity. And so anything like that, although we don't believe he has any lasting complications from that, there is that little bit of that at the back of me mind going \"Well, I wouldn't really want him to get something that's going to be heavy on the chest\". [Inaudible]... even if [Inaudible]... speak well...[Inaudible]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah that makes sense why, you know, even if there's no lasting effects I can see why you wouldn't you know you wouldn't be wanting to take any chances with it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think it's just something that kind of in the back of my mind really"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So do you know anyone whose child has gotten sick with the flu, maybe like any of his friends or, you know, people that you know with children who might be around his age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think I do, to be honest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So when you want to learn about a sickness, like the flu, where would you go to get that information"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3037082726452989, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think it's just something that kind of in the back of my mind really"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So do you know anyone whose child has gotten sick with the flu, maybe like any of his friends or, you know, people that you know with children who might be around his age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think I do, to be honest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So when you want to learn about a sickness, like the flu, where would you go to get that information"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The NHS website."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The NHS website. Are there any others that you use, or is it just straight to the NHS?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4485647473836654, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think I do, to be honest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So when you want to learn about a sickness, like the flu, where would you go to get that information"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The NHS website."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The NHS website. Are there any others that you use, or is it just straight to the NHS?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just straight to the NHS. Its just, I'm fully confident in the information that will be on there and that things will be accurate. I mean, you can you can troll around the internet and find all sorts of stuff. You know, if I'm, if I'm looking for something like that. I've got to go to something that I'm sure is a trusted source."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah sure that that makes sense to me. Have you ever talked to [Child]'s GP about the flu or any like medical professional at all?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6095163859818504, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The NHS website."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The NHS website. Are there any others that you use, or is it just straight to the NHS?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just straight to the NHS. Its just, I'm fully confident in the information that will be on there and that things will be accurate. I mean, you can you can troll around the internet and find all sorts of stuff. You know, if I'm, if I'm looking for something like that. I've got to go to something that I'm sure is a trusted source."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah sure that that makes sense to me. Have you ever talked to [Child]'s GP about the flu or any like medical professional at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think I have. No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So my next few questions are to help me learn my your thoughts around the flu vaccine and kind of whether or not it's something that would be beneficial for your child. So what do you think the benefits of the flu vaccine are?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7883515399798338, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just straight to the NHS. Its just, I'm fully confident in the information that will be on there and that things will be accurate. I mean, you can you can troll around the internet and find all sorts of stuff. You know, if I'm, if I'm looking for something like that. I've got to go to something that I'm sure is a trusted source."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah sure that that makes sense to me. Have you ever talked to [Child]'s GP about the flu or any like medical professional at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think I have. No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So my next few questions are to help me learn my your thoughts around the flu vaccine and kind of whether or not it's something that would be beneficial for your child. So what do you think the benefits of the flu vaccine are?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah well, it, it just, it just removes some of the risk of him getting ill. I mean, obviously I am aware that that strains of flu are many and varied and that they change every year and that the flu vaccine is only going to be efffective against a percentage of those. It, it just removes some of the risk of him getting really quite ill. Bit of a no brainer for me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. No, that does sound like a benefit. So I guess when you think about the benefits you thinking, mostly about the benefit to his health. Like, do you see any sort of other benefits or is it just straightforward. You know, he's not going to get sick, so he's going to be healthier."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9870572666442596, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think I have. No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So my next few questions are to help me learn my your thoughts around the flu vaccine and kind of whether or not it's something that would be beneficial for your child. So what do you think the benefits of the flu vaccine are?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah well, it, it just, it just removes some of the risk of him getting ill. I mean, obviously I am aware that that strains of flu are many and varied and that they change every year and that the flu vaccine is only going to be efffective against a percentage of those. It, it just removes some of the risk of him getting really quite ill. Bit of a no brainer for me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. No, that does sound like a benefit. So I guess when you think about the benefits you thinking, mostly about the benefit to his health. Like, do you see any sort of other benefits or is it just straightforward. You know, he's not going to get sick, so he's going to be healthier."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah, I've probably never particularly thought much beyond that, really. I mean, that is that is my number one concern. I have, I don't really have an understanding of how things like herd immunity and reducing spread in the community can be beneficial and not beneficial to those who cant have it. Obviously I understand that thats significant with things like measles. So I assume there to be some kind of element of that with with the flu vaccine as well. But, to be perfectly honest, if you hadn't asked me the question I probably wouldn't look at it ;ole that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, no, that's, that's great to know, you know, it's, I'm just trying to figure out sort of what the, what the most important parts are so it's good to know that. You know, it makes sense to me, you think flu is serious, get the vaccine, like you said, it's kind of a no brainer."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2078414073825106, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah well, it, it just, it just removes some of the risk of him getting ill. I mean, obviously I am aware that that strains of flu are many and varied and that they change every year and that the flu vaccine is only going to be efffective against a percentage of those. It, it just removes some of the risk of him getting really quite ill. Bit of a no brainer for me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. No, that does sound like a benefit. So I guess when you think about the benefits you thinking, mostly about the benefit to his health. Like, do you see any sort of other benefits or is it just straightforward. You know, he's not going to get sick, so he's going to be healthier."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah, I've probably never particularly thought much beyond that, really. I mean, that is that is my number one concern. I have, I don't really have an understanding of how things like herd immunity and reducing spread in the community can be beneficial and not beneficial to those who cant have it. Obviously I understand that thats significant with things like measles. So I assume there to be some kind of element of that with with the flu vaccine as well. But, to be perfectly honest, if you hadn't asked me the question I probably wouldn't look at it ;ole that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, no, that's, that's great to know, you know, it's, I'm just trying to figure out sort of what the, what the most important parts are so it's good to know that. You know, it makes sense to me, you think flu is serious, get the vaccine, like you said, it's kind of a no brainer."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if you want to learn about a vaccine, like whether it, you know, whether it would be beneficial for your child, whether it's something he needs, something he doesn't need, where would you go to get that information?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7257301325710004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if you want to learn about a vaccine, like whether it, you know, whether it would be beneficial for your child, whether it's something he needs, something he doesn't need, where would you go to get that information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I probably have an inherent trust of vaccinations and if, if the health community are advising me to have a vaccination for my child, then it's it's not it's not really something I'd look a great deal further into, I don't think. Um, if the GP, If the NHS are telling me that this is a vaccine that they advise my child to have, then I'm pretty much okay with that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't think I've ever actively gone and looked at any more detail beyond that, to be honest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. So it sounds like what you're saying is it's just, you know, if a GP recommends it to you or if some other medical professional recommends it to you, that's kind of all the all the extra information you need to be worth it."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0285890361900005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I probably have an inherent trust of vaccinations and if, if the health community are advising me to have a vaccination for my child, then it's it's not it's not really something I'd look a great deal further into, I don't think. Um, if the GP, If the NHS are telling me that this is a vaccine that they advise my child to have, then I'm pretty much okay with that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't think I've ever actively gone and looked at any more detail beyond that, to be honest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. So it sounds like what you're saying is it's just, you know, if a GP recommends it to you or if some other medical professional recommends it to you, that's kind of all the all the extra information you need to be worth it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. For something to be on a on a childhood vaccination schedule, then that's gone through all kinds of levels of consideration and whether thats medical, whether thats ethical. All of those kinds of decisions, I think probably have been made by people with much more of an understanding of everything that I do. I'm lay when it comes to medicine. So I'm pretty happy to take their word for it, if that make sense."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah no absolutely it just sort of trust. You know, trust the medical experts, essentially, is what it sounds like you're saying."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.3650989291000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't think I've ever actively gone and looked at any more detail beyond that, to be honest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. So it sounds like what you're saying is it's just, you know, if a GP recommends it to you or if some other medical professional recommends it to you, that's kind of all the all the extra information you need to be worth it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. For something to be on a on a childhood vaccination schedule, then that's gone through all kinds of levels of consideration and whether thats medical, whether thats ethical. All of those kinds of decisions, I think probably have been made by people with much more of an understanding of everything that I do. I'm lay when it comes to medicine. So I'm pretty happy to take their word for it, if that make sense."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah no absolutely it just sort of trust. You know, trust the medical experts, essentially, is what it sounds like you're saying."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So sort of related to that. Do you think there are any downsides of having your child get the flu vaccine?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.6278876990000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. For something to be on a on a childhood vaccination schedule, then that's gone through all kinds of levels of consideration and whether thats medical, whether thats ethical. All of those kinds of decisions, I think probably have been made by people with much more of an understanding of everything that I do. I'm lay when it comes to medicine. So I'm pretty happy to take their word for it, if that make sense."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah no absolutely it just sort of trust. You know, trust the medical experts, essentially, is what it sounds like you're saying."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So sort of related to that. Do you think there are any downsides of having your child get the flu vaccine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. No it's, it's a quick and painless thing then its over in a second. I wouldn't have expected him to have any after effects because of it and that’s whats happened, that’s whats bourne out. So no downside to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. Um, so have you ever talked to a medical professional about the flu vaccine. Specifically, kind of, how did you... I guess what I'm trying to learn here is like how did you know that [Child] could get the flu vaccine? Was that a conversation you had with someone? did you, you know, get a letter? Did you find out online?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8087641100000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So sort of related to that. Do you think there are any downsides of having your child get the flu vaccine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. No it's, it's a quick and painless thing then its over in a second. I wouldn't have expected him to have any after effects because of it and that’s whats happened, that’s whats bourne out. So no downside to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. Um, so have you ever talked to a medical professional about the flu vaccine. Specifically, kind of, how did you... I guess what I'm trying to learn here is like how did you know that [Child] could get the flu vaccine? Was that a conversation you had with someone? did you, you know, get a letter? Did you find out online?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It, we, I think, yeah, we had, we had a letter inviting him. Actually, this, this has made me think a bit more now because I did look into whether he could have it at a younger age. Um, sort of like the one to two year range. Yeah, kind of that range because of, because of the circumstances of birth and that was something that I did look into. So I did get in touch with his GP and asked whether that was possible. I think, I think it's only kind of children with with specific conditions and stuff like that that are eligible for that. And it turned out that he wasn't. So that that was a conversation that I had with... That would have been the GP, yeah. But as far as and when he was eligible and and I got the letter off that it was available for him. Then I didn't have any any conversation with anyone about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So, once you decided to have him vaccinated for the flu this year. Can you walk me through the process of what it was like. You know, to get the vaccination. Was it very simple, you just phone the GP, you had an appointment, you brought him in? Or was it, you know, a little more complicated than that?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.24659, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it was, it was, it was absolutely straightforward. Got the notification through the post and gave them a call, booked an appointment, went in and then showed up for it. The nurse was, the nurse out our practice is lovely and and it was just a very quick and simple, couple of drops up the nose and he was done, got to the end of it and everything was hunky dory."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that sounds about as easy as it can get. So how important was it to you, you know, when you got that letter that said he can get this vaccine. How important was it to that he get it? Was it something that you were like picking up the phone, I'm going to ring them right now and get this appointment? Or was it something you were more like well you know if the opportunity arises will do it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah I think I probably arranged the appointment that day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, more or less straight away. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So it sounds like I'm just sort of based on everything that you said, I'm just trying to make sure I'm understanding you correctly, it sounds like you know you have faith in vaccination and in medical professionals. So you're, that faith kind of motivates you to seek out that protection, whenever possible, is that, does that sound accurate to you?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3851, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah I think I probably arranged the appointment that day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, more or less straight away. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So it sounds like I'm just sort of based on everything that you said, I'm just trying to make sure I'm understanding you correctly, it sounds like you know you have faith in vaccination and in medical professionals. So you're, that faith kind of motivates you to seek out that protection, whenever possible, is that, does that sound accurate to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I do have a few other questions that you've sort of already spoken to, you've been pretty clear, but we'll just kind of go through them in case you have anything to add about them. So has has [Child] received any other vaccinations, like the childhood ones?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.539, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, more or less straight away. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So it sounds like I'm just sort of based on everything that you said, I'm just trying to make sure I'm understanding you correctly, it sounds like you know you have faith in vaccination and in medical professionals. So you're, that faith kind of motivates you to seek out that protection, whenever possible, is that, does that sound accurate to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I do have a few other questions that you've sort of already spoken to, you've been pretty clear, but we'll just kind of go through them in case you have anything to add about them. So has has [Child] received any other vaccinations, like the childhood ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah he's fully up to date with all of that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And how did you decide for that he would have those vaccinations? Or do you feel like it even was a decision?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.71, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I do have a few other questions that you've sort of already spoken to, you've been pretty clear, but we'll just kind of go through them in case you have anything to add about them. So has has [Child] received any other vaccinations, like the childhood ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah he's fully up to date with all of that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And how did you decide for that he would have those vaccinations? Or do you feel like it even was a decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uhm I, for me it wasn't really a decision I needed to make. It was, it was a foregone conclusion. And for me, and I did check in with what his dad thought, what is that thought at the time, and he was on the same page, so that was, was just not, not yet, not, not really a decision."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, just, you know, it's recommended. It's the thing kind of that you're supposed to do. So you just sort of do it."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah he's fully up to date with all of that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And how did you decide for that he would have those vaccinations? Or do you feel like it even was a decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uhm I, for me it wasn't really a decision I needed to make. It was, it was a foregone conclusion. And for me, and I did check in with what his dad thought, what is that thought at the time, and he was on the same page, so that was, was just not, not yet, not, not really a decision."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, just, you know, it's recommended. It's the thing kind of that you're supposed to do. So you just sort of do it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you personally had the flu vaccine this year?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uhm I, for me it wasn't really a decision I needed to make. It was, it was a foregone conclusion. And for me, and I did check in with what his dad thought, what is that thought at the time, and he was on the same page, so that was, was just not, not yet, not, not really a decision."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, just, you know, it's recommended. It's the thing kind of that you're supposed to do. So you just sort of do it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you personally had the flu vaccine this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I have. I've paid for the vaccine for quite a few years now, and my other half gets it free, because of his previous medical history. So it's something that that we've kind of done and I kind of shoehorn him to get on with it, get cracking. It, actually me, me getting the vaccine this year was more upseting for [Child] than him getting his own"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh yeah? In what way was that?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you personally had the flu vaccine this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I have. I've paid for the vaccine for quite a few years now, and my other half gets it free, because of his previous medical history. So it's something that that we've kind of done and I kind of shoehorn him to get on with it, get cracking. It, actually me, me getting the vaccine this year was more upseting for [Child] than him getting his own"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh yeah? In what way was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yeah, we were, we were sitting there in, I think I got it done at the local Tesco. I was sitting there and he was, he was on my knee and he saw the needle coming towards my arm, and it really, really scared him. Like \"wow! Dont worry, they're sticking it in me not you!\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it's nice that he was, he was looking out for you didn't, didn't want anybody getting any injections that day. So he when he was vaccinated, he had the nasal spray, Is that right?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I have. I've paid for the vaccine for quite a few years now, and my other half gets it free, because of his previous medical history. So it's something that that we've kind of done and I kind of shoehorn him to get on with it, get cracking. It, actually me, me getting the vaccine this year was more upseting for [Child] than him getting his own"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh yeah? In what way was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yeah, we were, we were sitting there in, I think I got it done at the local Tesco. I was sitting there and he was, he was on my knee and he saw the needle coming towards my arm, and it really, really scared him. Like \"wow! Dont worry, they're sticking it in me not you!\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it's nice that he was, he was looking out for you didn't, didn't want anybody getting any injections that day. So he when he was vaccinated, he had the nasal spray, Is that right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think that him having a nasal spray. Like, do you think it would have been kind of a more difficult experience for you and for him if he had needed to get an injection or do you think, you know, what do you think had the setting been a little different?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yeah, we were, we were sitting there in, I think I got it done at the local Tesco. I was sitting there and he was, he was on my knee and he saw the needle coming towards my arm, and it really, really scared him. Like \"wow! Dont worry, they're sticking it in me not you!\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it's nice that he was, he was looking out for you didn't, didn't want anybody getting any injections that day. So he when he was vaccinated, he had the nasal spray, Is that right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think that him having a nasal spray. Like, do you think it would have been kind of a more difficult experience for you and for him if he had needed to get an injection or do you think, you know, what do you think had the setting been a little different?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah I think, I think he would still get freaked out, a bit freaked out more than he did with the nasal spray but that would have been very quickly. And again, that wouldn't stop me, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, so I can imagine that as a parent, when your child needs an injection. You know you it's unpleasant for them, of course, but you sort of know that now in 20 minutes. They're going to be fine. They will have forgotten about this whole situation."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think that him having a nasal spray. Like, do you think it would have been kind of a more difficult experience for you and for him if he had needed to get an injection or do you think, you know, what do you think had the setting been a little different?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah I think, I think he would still get freaked out, a bit freaked out more than he did with the nasal spray but that would have been very quickly. And again, that wouldn't stop me, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, so I can imagine that as a parent, when your child needs an injection. You know you it's unpleasant for them, of course, but you sort of know that now in 20 minutes. They're going to be fine. They will have forgotten about this whole situation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right, right. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, but that's nice that you had the nasal spray so that you could sort of avoid that whole, that whole episode. So that's all the questions that I have. So kind of what I like to close with is just asking, is there anything else. That you'd like to say about the flu or the flu vaccine or vaccination in general just anything that I didn't ask that you were hoping you could speak to"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah I think, I think he would still get freaked out, a bit freaked out more than he did with the nasal spray but that would have been very quickly. And again, that wouldn't stop me, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, so I can imagine that as a parent, when your child needs an injection. You know you it's unpleasant for them, of course, but you sort of know that now in 20 minutes. They're going to be fine. They will have forgotten about this whole situation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right, right. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, but that's nice that you had the nasal spray so that you could sort of avoid that whole, that whole episode. So that's all the questions that I have. So kind of what I like to close with is just asking, is there anything else. That you'd like to say about the flu or the flu vaccine or vaccination in general just anything that I didn't ask that you were hoping you could speak to"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I don't think so. I mean, the possibly, the only other relevant bit of information really is that my mum's a nurse. So I've grown up around hospitals and around, you know, that. And so I think that is quite a big part in my thinking about how much trust in, in the institutions and that's the only other thing, right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, no, that's interesting. So you think just because you've been, you know, sort of, since since you were young exposed to kind of people who people who had faith in medicine, you know, as a nurse, of course. She of course has faith in medicine."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00006:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right, right. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, but that's nice that you had the nasal spray so that you could sort of avoid that whole, that whole episode. So that's all the questions that I have. So kind of what I like to close with is just asking, is there anything else. That you'd like to say about the flu or the flu vaccine or vaccination in general just anything that I didn't ask that you were hoping you could speak to"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I don't think so. I mean, the possibly, the only other relevant bit of information really is that my mum's a nurse. So I've grown up around hospitals and around, you know, that. And so I think that is quite a big part in my thinking about how much trust in, in the institutions and that's the only other thing, right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, no, that's interesting. So you think just because you've been, you know, sort of, since since you were young exposed to kind of people who people who had faith in medicine, you know, as a nurse, of course. She of course has faith in medicine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you think that it was sort of something that it was the environment you grew up in that sort of instilled those values and you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.318733833625397, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes please. It’s okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about yourself, how old are you sir?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am 35 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are your qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have PLE, Senior four, Senior six, Bachelors, masters and Masters in Internal medicine and a little training; minimal training in cardiology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Nice to meet you."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.020815370694885, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am 35 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are your qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have PLE, Senior four, Senior six, Bachelors, masters and Masters in Internal medicine and a little training; minimal training in cardiology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Nice to meet you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nice to meet you too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so where did you train from?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.689794856327651, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have PLE, Senior four, Senior six, Bachelors, masters and Masters in Internal medicine and a little training; minimal training in cardiology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Nice to meet you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nice to meet you too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so where did you train from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Mbarara University"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long ago did you qualify?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.21088317369739, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nice to meet you too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so where did you train from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Mbarara University"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long ago did you qualify?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For a doctor, 10 years ago. As a specialist physician, 6 years ago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wonderful. So when you look at the demographics of the patients in your practice, what are the common illnesses and who are these patients you see?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.7898701929971, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Mbarara University"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long ago did you qualify?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For a doctor, 10 years ago. As a specialist physician, 6 years ago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wonderful. So when you look at the demographics of the patients in your practice, what are the common illnesses and who are these patients you see?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well it’s hard to tell but they are so many patients. Well, for me in my line of specialism I tend to see more of non-communicable diseases although when I am doing general, I see a lot of HIV, malaria, streptococcus, TB. But in my area of specialization I do a cardiology clinic, so I see a lot of heart failure, hypertension, RHD and diabetes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Wonderful. So by age group which is the ... ?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.322077992219, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For a doctor, 10 years ago. As a specialist physician, 6 years ago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wonderful. So when you look at the demographics of the patients in your practice, what are the common illnesses and who are these patients you see?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well it’s hard to tell but they are so many patients. Well, for me in my line of specialism I tend to see more of non-communicable diseases although when I am doing general, I see a lot of HIV, malaria, streptococcus, TB. But in my area of specialization I do a cardiology clinic, so I see a lot of heart failure, hypertension, RHD and diabetes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Wonderful. So by age group which is the ... ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "By age group the majority I see are in the youth bracket and a few elderly ones. Especially for the non-communicable diseases, I see elderly ones with heart failure and hypertension. But for these other diseases of RHD, they tend to be any age but majority between 20 and 40 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "20 and 4o, for RHD!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.913419991354444, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well it’s hard to tell but they are so many patients. Well, for me in my line of specialism I tend to see more of non-communicable diseases although when I am doing general, I see a lot of HIV, malaria, streptococcus, TB. But in my area of specialization I do a cardiology clinic, so I see a lot of heart failure, hypertension, RHD and diabetes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Wonderful. So by age group which is the ... ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "By age group the majority I see are in the youth bracket and a few elderly ones. Especially for the non-communicable diseases, I see elderly ones with heart failure and hypertension. But for these other diseases of RHD, they tend to be any age but majority between 20 and 40 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "20 and 4o, for RHD!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes but I have seen elderly with RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Then those ones with RHD, are they school or working. The majority."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.570466657060494, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "By age group the majority I see are in the youth bracket and a few elderly ones. Especially for the non-communicable diseases, I see elderly ones with heart failure and hypertension. But for these other diseases of RHD, they tend to be any age but majority between 20 and 40 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "20 and 4o, for RHD!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes but I have seen elderly with RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Then those ones with RHD, are they school or working. The majority."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The majority, I cannot point majority because I would have to have figures to know whether it is the majority, but I can say many of them are in school and also a good number are not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So let’s talk a little bit about your training in RHD; have you received any specific training during school?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 7.300518507844993, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes but I have seen elderly with RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Then those ones with RHD, are they school or working. The majority."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The majority, I cannot point majority because I would have to have figures to know whether it is the majority, but I can say many of them are in school and also a good number are not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So let’s talk a little bit about your training in RHD; have you received any specific training during school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I received training during a cardiology fellowship about RHD, and I have run with colleagues RHD clinics at the heart institute and also here. So that’s the basic training that I got."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow, that’s good. So where did you train from?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.778353897605547, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The majority, I cannot point majority because I would have to have figures to know whether it is the majority, but I can say many of them are in school and also a good number are not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So let’s talk a little bit about your training in RHD; have you received any specific training during school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I received training during a cardiology fellowship about RHD, and I have run with colleagues RHD clinics at the heart institute and also here. So that’s the basic training that I got."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow, that’s good. So where did you train from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I told you, Mbarara University for Bachelors and Masters. Then I went to Uganda Heart Institute in Kampala where I studied most of the RHD knowledge that I have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how often do you see RHD patients? Is it per day, a week? How many can you say in week?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.309282108450608, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I received training during a cardiology fellowship about RHD, and I have run with colleagues RHD clinics at the heart institute and also here. So that’s the basic training that I got."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow, that’s good. So where did you train from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I told you, Mbarara University for Bachelors and Masters. Then I went to Uganda Heart Institute in Kampala where I studied most of the RHD knowledge that I have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how often do you see RHD patients? Is it per day, a week? How many can you say in week?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a week I see like 2."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like 2. Do you see outpatients or inpatients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.899202342722898, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I told you, Mbarara University for Bachelors and Masters. Then I went to Uganda Heart Institute in Kampala where I studied most of the RHD knowledge that I have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how often do you see RHD patients? Is it per day, a week? How many can you say in week?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a week I see like 2."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like 2. Do you see outpatients or inpatients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, most of them are outpatients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s good. So I am interested in what you were taught, what are the causes? What do you understand to be the causes of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.332447047469886, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a week I see like 2."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like 2. Do you see outpatients or inpatients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, most of them are outpatients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s good. So I am interested in what you were taught, what are the causes? What do you understand to be the causes of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I understand streptococcus to be the cause of RHD and I also understand that it comes usually during early childhood like 3-5 years, teenage; early exposure to sore throat. So what I know is that the sore throat usually the one which is streptococcus maybe treated insufficiently or maybe go away on its own but there’s an element of molecular mimicry. Like to simplify it, the immune system of an individual will recognize with infection and try to fight it, but what I might call a body accident; the body will also produce a mechanism which will target other organs accidentally. So mostly, it will target the heart valves. Remember it was trying to clear the sore throat but many years later, the immune response attacks the valves of the heart, but it can also attack the joints and brain. So that’s what I know as the cause."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So you have answered my next question, I will not ask it. So what can done to prevent RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7027189416332065, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, most of them are outpatients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay that’s good. So I am interested in what you were taught, what are the causes? What do you understand to be the causes of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I understand streptococcus to be the cause of RHD and I also understand that it comes usually during early childhood like 3-5 years, teenage; early exposure to sore throat. So what I know is that the sore throat usually the one which is streptococcus maybe treated insufficiently or maybe go away on its own but there’s an element of molecular mimicry. Like to simplify it, the immune system of an individual will recognize with infection and try to fight it, but what I might call a body accident; the body will also produce a mechanism which will target other organs accidentally. So mostly, it will target the heart valves. Remember it was trying to clear the sore throat but many years later, the immune response attacks the valves of the heart, but it can also attack the joints and brain. So that’s what I know as the cause."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So you have answered my next question, I will not ask it. So what can done to prevent RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Quite a lot of things but the first one is to promptly diagnose and treat sore throat and treat it adequately with penicillin. But that is treating a case, and then the other thing is to prevent cases. One of the things is to avoid overcrowding of our children especially kids at school; nowadays they crowd in one room like this one. You find like 20 kids in a dormitory and if one has a sore throat and it is contagious and they will all get it. So reduce congestion and reduce poverty levels as well because if there was no poverty, children would be brought for screening for sore throat but because of poverty, they don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t bring them!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.114132157370229, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I understand streptococcus to be the cause of RHD and I also understand that it comes usually during early childhood like 3-5 years, teenage; early exposure to sore throat. So what I know is that the sore throat usually the one which is streptococcus maybe treated insufficiently or maybe go away on its own but there’s an element of molecular mimicry. Like to simplify it, the immune system of an individual will recognize with infection and try to fight it, but what I might call a body accident; the body will also produce a mechanism which will target other organs accidentally. So mostly, it will target the heart valves. Remember it was trying to clear the sore throat but many years later, the immune response attacks the valves of the heart, but it can also attack the joints and brain. So that’s what I know as the cause."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So you have answered my next question, I will not ask it. So what can done to prevent RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Quite a lot of things but the first one is to promptly diagnose and treat sore throat and treat it adequately with penicillin. But that is treating a case, and then the other thing is to prevent cases. One of the things is to avoid overcrowding of our children especially kids at school; nowadays they crowd in one room like this one. You find like 20 kids in a dormitory and if one has a sore throat and it is contagious and they will all get it. So reduce congestion and reduce poverty levels as well because if there was no poverty, children would be brought for screening for sore throat but because of poverty, they don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t bring them!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and then what were you taught are treatment options for Rhd?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.643528336584677, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first treatment is usually penicillin. Yeah Penicillins. Whether you give them PEN-V but we would want to see what stage is the RHD; how much has it done so far? So we would do an ECHO, a simple scan so that I can see that really is the RHD there? Is it mild or it is severe? How many valves are involved? Is the patient in heart failure or not? So from there, you make a decision; if it is mild or if there are early changes, because there are also early changes, what we call early rheumatic changes. When you do an ECHO it could be that. Then that one is a case of follow up; you advise promptly to treat the sore throat. Okay?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Or you give some shots of Benzathine penicillin, they will come back and you repeat the ECHO, and interestingly, some of them regress. You find those changes have gone back in the very early stages."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But when you have an established disease, now that is a permanent diseases, a severe one because heart failure will need medicine for 3 things; the first one is to prevent recurrent sore throats to make sure you don’t get more injury. The next one is to treat heart failure in case people have heart failure or prevent changes, what we call remodeling of the heart, the heart may dilate or fail. Or those who are already in heart failure, you treat heart failure. But ultimately, they need surgery, those who are already severely sick they need surgery to correct the valve or replace it. You put a new valve."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wonderful. Wow! So what is your understanding about the long term prognosis of RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.270587040649641, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Or you give some shots of Benzathine penicillin, they will come back and you repeat the ECHO, and interestingly, some of them regress. You find those changes have gone back in the very early stages."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But when you have an established disease, now that is a permanent diseases, a severe one because heart failure will need medicine for 3 things; the first one is to prevent recurrent sore throats to make sure you don’t get more injury. The next one is to treat heart failure in case people have heart failure or prevent changes, what we call remodeling of the heart, the heart may dilate or fail. Or those who are already in heart failure, you treat heart failure. But ultimately, they need surgery, those who are already severely sick they need surgery to correct the valve or replace it. You put a new valve."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wonderful. Wow! So what is your understanding about the long term prognosis of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If caught early, if the disease is diagnosed early the prognosis is good actually, I told you some may regress. But here in our experience, majority are discovered late, the prognosis unfortunately is not good; it is very bad. We have a lot of cases where you can’t do much and they can’t afford surgery or they’re too late for a new valve. You know even putting a new valve, when you are too late, you will not even be managed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are they coming late?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.745096711832934, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But when you have an established disease, now that is a permanent diseases, a severe one because heart failure will need medicine for 3 things; the first one is to prevent recurrent sore throats to make sure you don’t get more injury. The next one is to treat heart failure in case people have heart failure or prevent changes, what we call remodeling of the heart, the heart may dilate or fail. Or those who are already in heart failure, you treat heart failure. But ultimately, they need surgery, those who are already severely sick they need surgery to correct the valve or replace it. You put a new valve."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wonderful. Wow! So what is your understanding about the long term prognosis of RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If caught early, if the disease is diagnosed early the prognosis is good actually, I told you some may regress. But here in our experience, majority are discovered late, the prognosis unfortunately is not good; it is very bad. We have a lot of cases where you can’t do much and they can’t afford surgery or they’re too late for a new valve. You know even putting a new valve, when you are too late, you will not even be managed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are they coming late?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of challenges with diagnosis. As I told you, it is not easy to link this sore throat to the problem of the heart. Even majority won’t know that they had a sore throat. Imagine if you get a sore throat and you are 3 years old, or 5 or 10 years old and it goes a way, so now they come in with non- specific symptoms and they are in the village and there is not enough knowledge about it, so they are in heart failure, they’re having chest pain palpitations and they are lost. They are treated by many people because not everyone has ECHO to see what’s in the heart and the symptoms could be because of many things. So the diagnosis is usually delayed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is delayed!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.272329679814371, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If caught early, if the disease is diagnosed early the prognosis is good actually, I told you some may regress. But here in our experience, majority are discovered late, the prognosis unfortunately is not good; it is very bad. We have a lot of cases where you can’t do much and they can’t afford surgery or they’re too late for a new valve. You know even putting a new valve, when you are too late, you will not even be managed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are they coming late?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of challenges with diagnosis. As I told you, it is not easy to link this sore throat to the problem of the heart. Even majority won’t know that they had a sore throat. Imagine if you get a sore throat and you are 3 years old, or 5 or 10 years old and it goes a way, so now they come in with non- specific symptoms and they are in the village and there is not enough knowledge about it, so they are in heart failure, they’re having chest pain palpitations and they are lost. They are treated by many people because not everyone has ECHO to see what’s in the heart and the symptoms could be because of many things. So the diagnosis is usually delayed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is delayed!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s the main problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow. You have said they don’t have the knowledge, how can we step up the knowledge?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.509048987425149, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That’s the main problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow. You have said they don’t have the knowledge, how can we step up the knowledge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are efforts already which have been made; we have had schools’ programs for sensitizations and also a bit of checkups to see how many. There was a study which was run around here. So there is some knowledge around here in schools."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then there has been some campaigns, a few ones on radios right now and there’s also an advert going on to screen for Rheumatic Fever. So giving such knowledge generally improves people to start thinking about the heart and what can go wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s wonderful. So do you remember the last patient you worked on for RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.232276652694609, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are efforts already which have been made; we have had schools’ programs for sensitizations and also a bit of checkups to see how many. There was a study which was run around here. So there is some knowledge around here in schools."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then there has been some campaigns, a few ones on radios right now and there’s also an advert going on to screen for Rheumatic Fever. So giving such knowledge generally improves people to start thinking about the heart and what can go wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s wonderful. So do you remember the last patient you worked on for RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how long has it been?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.924751836327343, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then there has been some campaigns, a few ones on radios right now and there’s also an advert going on to screen for Rheumatic Fever. So giving such knowledge generally improves people to start thinking about the heart and what can go wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s wonderful. So do you remember the last patient you worked on for RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how long has it been?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yesterday."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[laughs] could you briefly tell us how that visit was? Who was it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.104631896700424, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yesterday."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[laughs] could you briefly tell us how that visit was? Who was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a follow up visit and it was a good news of RHD regression."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which I don’t see many times, so this was mild Rheumatic Heart Disease with mild micro gurgitations. It was diagnosed this year in January, so I followed up after 6months so that was July there, the symptoms had reduced but we still maintained PEN-V penicillin. So the patient came back yesterday and we did another ECHO, and RHD changes on the heart had disappeared."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow. How old was this?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4495909963338036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a follow up visit and it was a good news of RHD regression."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which I don’t see many times, so this was mild Rheumatic Heart Disease with mild micro gurgitations. It was diagnosed this year in January, so I followed up after 6months so that was July there, the symptoms had reduced but we still maintained PEN-V penicillin. So the patient came back yesterday and we did another ECHO, and RHD changes on the heart had disappeared."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow. How old was this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This was a 30 year old lady. It is one of those which am very proud of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow, that’s wonderful. So do these patients know the link between sore throat, ARF and RHD, at all? Do they have a sense of, do they know that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.258754316461486, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This was a 30 year old lady. It is one of those which am very proud of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow, that’s wonderful. So do these patients know the link between sore throat, ARF and RHD, at all? Do they have a sense of, do they know that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The ones who come to us are referred via ELT doctors here. The unit doctors explain to them that “you have recurrent sore throat so you could be having RHD, so go to physicians, cardiologist or whoever for further screening.” Those ones come knowing and they are the ones who usually comply to treatment very well. But the ones we diagnose usually who come in late, they don’t know actually."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So the majority don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t even know that."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.731949240512762, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The ones who come to us are referred via ELT doctors here. The unit doctors explain to them that “you have recurrent sore throat so you could be having RHD, so go to physicians, cardiologist or whoever for further screening.” Those ones come knowing and they are the ones who usually comply to treatment very well. But the ones we diagnose usually who come in late, they don’t know actually."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So the majority don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t even know that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What sort of symptoms do they usually describe to you when they come?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.257721378347513, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So the majority don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They don’t even know that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What sort of symptoms do they usually describe to you when they come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They come with easy fatigability, (they get tired)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, they get tired all the time."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.841912642608348, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What sort of symptoms do they usually describe to you when they come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They come with easy fatigability, (they get tired)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, they get tired all the time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Body swelling, they come with chest pain, they come with palpitations, so those are the four main symptoms. But there are those who come with a cough that is not going away; they have treated the cough and it is not going away but when you check the heart, you find the problem is from the valves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and are they good at follow up and adherence?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.212237830380676, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Body swelling, they come with chest pain, they come with palpitations, so those are the four main symptoms. But there are those who come with a cough that is not going away; they have treated the cough and it is not going away but when you check the heart, you find the problem is from the valves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and are they good at follow up and adherence?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and no, and it varies from patient to patient. So I will categorize them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I will say the ones who have support like social support, family support come back and the ones who are alone don’t come back. I have seen that case clearly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So social support like what?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.013597589311862, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and no, and it varies from patient to patient. So I will categorize them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I will say the ones who have support like social support, family support come back and the ones who are alone don’t come back. I have seen that case clearly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So social support like what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Social support makes them comeback but without that, they go away and they get lost, and then we discover them on the ward in heart failure admitted."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh! They come back when ... ?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.903997321457625, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I will say the ones who have support like social support, family support come back and the ones who are alone don’t come back. I have seen that case clearly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So social support like what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Social support makes them comeback but without that, they go away and they get lost, and then we discover them on the ward in heart failure admitted."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh! They come back when ... ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. When they are very sick and in heart failure. So you say “eh! This one was our patient of RHD. ”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So part form social support, what else makes some people comply with the drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.89333035717514, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Social support makes them comeback but without that, they go away and they get lost, and then we discover them on the ward in heart failure admitted."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh! They come back when ... ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. When they are very sick and in heart failure. So you say “eh! This one was our patient of RHD. ”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So part form social support, what else makes some people comply with the drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, when they have pain, unfortunately, when they have pain they keep coming and complying for that period when they are in pain, with bad symptoms, but as they get better, they disappear then they come back when the symptoms come back. That is what I have seen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And then um, so to then when they come back especially in heart failure, what excuses do they give for having not come back?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.992589285750155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. When they are very sick and in heart failure. So you say “eh! This one was our patient of RHD. ”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So part form social support, what else makes some people comply with the drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, when they have pain, unfortunately, when they have pain they keep coming and complying for that period when they are in pain, with bad symptoms, but as they get better, they disappear then they come back when the symptoms come back. That is what I have seen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And then um, so to then when they come back especially in heart failure, what excuses do they give for having not come back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The medicines. You see the medicines in the hospital, some are there and some are not there. Those who are not in the RHD program may not get and for me I also work in private sectors and other places, so there the medicine is expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it’s the medicine."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.225418871296487, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The medicines. You see the medicines in the hospital, some are there and some are not there. Those who are not in the RHD program may not get and for me I also work in private sectors and other places, so there the medicine is expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it’s the medicine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The medicine is expensive! So they take. Then others get tired of medicine because it is daily, then the injection is painful. This Benzathine penicillin is terrible, you know it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it’s like the one of syphilis if you have ever got it, and it is terrible, very terrible! And the technique of injecting, not every nurse knows it. So some nurses, sorry to say, inject it badly or poorly or they don’t put pain killers or Lignocaine there. So the patient says “ah, I am not going back for that painful injection”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And then um, now let’s look at the local health system barriers that you are facing. You are going to tell me which ones are working for you and you tell us why and those which ones are not working for you and you tell us why?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.472687634773873, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The medicine is expensive! So they take. Then others get tired of medicine because it is daily, then the injection is painful. This Benzathine penicillin is terrible, you know it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it’s like the one of syphilis if you have ever got it, and it is terrible, very terrible! And the technique of injecting, not every nurse knows it. So some nurses, sorry to say, inject it badly or poorly or they don’t put pain killers or Lignocaine there. So the patient says “ah, I am not going back for that painful injection”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And then um, now let’s look at the local health system barriers that you are facing. You are going to tell me which ones are working for you and you tell us why and those which ones are not working for you and you tell us why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s look at the administration and leadership in the district, is it helping you do your work with our patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 13.858541816415414, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it’s like the one of syphilis if you have ever got it, and it is terrible, very terrible! And the technique of injecting, not every nurse knows it. So some nurses, sorry to say, inject it badly or poorly or they don’t put pain killers or Lignocaine there. So the patient says “ah, I am not going back for that painful injection”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And then um, now let’s look at the local health system barriers that you are facing. You are going to tell me which ones are working for you and you tell us why and those which ones are not working for you and you tell us why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s look at the administration and leadership in the district, is it helping you do your work with our patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know much about the administration at the district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t know?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.176157573794905, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s look at the administration and leadership in the district, is it helping you do your work with our patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know much about the administration at the district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I only know the administration at the hospital. Because a regional referral hospital is semiautonomous; we are under the central government, Ministry Of Health more than the district. We seem to be above the district; the DHO I think doesn’t have a lot of say, so I don’t think ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So let’s talk about the administration in the hospital."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 14.640175081994338, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know much about the administration at the district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I only know the administration at the hospital. Because a regional referral hospital is semiautonomous; we are under the central government, Ministry Of Health more than the district. We seem to be above the district; the DHO I think doesn’t have a lot of say, so I don’t think ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So let’s talk about the administration in the hospital."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it supportive?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.600194535549264, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I only know the administration at the hospital. Because a regional referral hospital is semiautonomous; we are under the central government, Ministry Of Health more than the district. We seem to be above the district; the DHO I think doesn’t have a lot of say, so I don’t think ..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So let’s talk about the administration in the hospital."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it supportive?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is because working together with the heart institute, it is the one really responsible for the cardiology clinic together with the university. So heart institute, Mbarara University, MarieStopes and Ministry Of Health. So there’s coordination really; it is the same angle that we managed to the ECHO machine. It the ECHO which does a lot of diagnostics, you see that? Then there’s an RHD program. So our place is organized because we have a specific RHD clinic on Fridays and then we also a general cardiologist clinic in Tuesday. So if a patient comes when it’s not a Friday and they are sick, they can still be assisted. So the system is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow, that’s wonderful. Now when you look at the funding of health care, how is it? Is it working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 11.852092019196622, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is because working together with the heart institute, it is the one really responsible for the cardiology clinic together with the university. So heart institute, Mbarara University, MarieStopes and Ministry Of Health. So there’s coordination really; it is the same angle that we managed to the ECHO machine. It the ECHO which does a lot of diagnostics, you see that? Then there’s an RHD program. So our place is organized because we have a specific RHD clinic on Fridays and then we also a general cardiologist clinic in Tuesday. So if a patient comes when it’s not a Friday and they are sick, they can still be assisted. So the system is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow, that’s wonderful. Now when you look at the funding of health care, how is it? Is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know much about funding for health care but what I can say, salaries are paid on time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s good!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I have no reason to say in that regard, well maybe the drugs; if some patients may not get the heart failure drugs, then that may be an issue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they getting them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.724546687996245, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know much about funding for health care but what I can say, salaries are paid on time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s good!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I have no reason to say in that regard, well maybe the drugs; if some patients may not get the heart failure drugs, then that may be an issue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they getting them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get some like Lasix and Captopril but if you want more, others you might not get them like the Losartan. But if you want Atenolol, captopril, Lasix you will get. So I could say it is 50/50."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "50/50. So for those they cannot get at the hospital, how much can they spend for a month?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 8.582829653329162, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I have no reason to say in that regard, well maybe the drugs; if some patients may not get the heart failure drugs, then that may be an issue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they getting them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get some like Lasix and Captopril but if you want more, others you might not get them like the Losartan. But if you want Atenolol, captopril, Lasix you will get. So I could say it is 50/50."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "50/50. So for those they cannot get at the hospital, how much can they spend for a month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Unfortunately, the drugs which are not available are the most expensive ones. So the ones that are on are what we call the essential drugs from the Ministry. They may not be very efficacious for these cases who are in heart failure, so you may want to bring back the injection fraction, blah. So if they have to buy, it is very expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like how much?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.203144059254624, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get some like Lasix and Captopril but if you want more, others you might not get them like the Losartan. But if you want Atenolol, captopril, Lasix you will get. So I could say it is 50/50."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "50/50. So for those they cannot get at the hospital, how much can they spend for a month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Unfortunately, the drugs which are not available are the most expensive ones. So the ones that are on are what we call the essential drugs from the Ministry. They may not be very efficacious for these cases who are in heart failure, so you may want to bring back the injection fraction, blah. So if they have to buy, it is very expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like how much?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They can spend like 100,000shs a month if they are in heart failure. That’s a lot of money, 100,000shs seriously! It is a lot. It is actually more that 50% of their earnings because if you take the earning of people here, it is like 200,000sh-300,000shs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So what do you have to say about the funding of RHD in general? In particular."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.892382288060694, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Unfortunately, the drugs which are not available are the most expensive ones. So the ones that are on are what we call the essential drugs from the Ministry. They may not be very efficacious for these cases who are in heart failure, so you may want to bring back the injection fraction, blah. So if they have to buy, it is very expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like how much?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They can spend like 100,000shs a month if they are in heart failure. That’s a lot of money, 100,000shs seriously! It is a lot. It is actually more that 50% of their earnings because if you take the earning of people here, it is like 200,000sh-300,000shs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So what do you have to say about the funding of RHD in general? In particular."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Funding of RHD it is lacking, I am sorry to say. Because, we should look at it in a holistic way, now there’s RHD clinic, we won’t go into the details, but what if the RHD research clinic closes? Because like any other project, it has a timeline, it has to close, what will happen? These patients will fall back to the general cardiology all of them and the medicine which we are getting for RHD, the follow up and sometimes the phone calls to bring them back , I don’t know about transport refunds but I know about phones calls and follow up will be lost. So the funding should be sustainable, what I see is there right now it might not be sustainable. So funding is not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And let’s look at the health worker force, how are the numbers and qualifications that you have?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.435980320067437, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They can spend like 100,000shs a month if they are in heart failure. That’s a lot of money, 100,000shs seriously! It is a lot. It is actually more that 50% of their earnings because if you take the earning of people here, it is like 200,000sh-300,000shs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So what do you have to say about the funding of RHD in general? In particular."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Funding of RHD it is lacking, I am sorry to say. Because, we should look at it in a holistic way, now there’s RHD clinic, we won’t go into the details, but what if the RHD research clinic closes? Because like any other project, it has a timeline, it has to close, what will happen? These patients will fall back to the general cardiology all of them and the medicine which we are getting for RHD, the follow up and sometimes the phone calls to bring them back , I don’t know about transport refunds but I know about phones calls and follow up will be lost. So the funding should be sustainable, what I see is there right now it might not be sustainable. So funding is not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And let’s look at the health worker force, how are the numbers and qualifications that you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The numbers now and qualifications, we have 2 physicians with some cardiology training with one in the cardiac patients’ clinics. It’s fair for now because when you are 2, one can even afford to be off today, this week and the other works or you work together one on the ECHO machine and the other treating the patients. For now, it is okay but it also because of the help of RHD (study), the second clinic will close as soon as the RHD clinic study stops. Then in terms of other cadres, we also have senior health officers, doctors who are trying to specialize in internal medicine, they help us. Because we have taught them so they help us. Because this is a teaching hospital, I think the workforce is good for the doctors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Waiting time for our patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8177559111860413, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Funding of RHD it is lacking, I am sorry to say. Because, we should look at it in a holistic way, now there’s RHD clinic, we won’t go into the details, but what if the RHD research clinic closes? Because like any other project, it has a timeline, it has to close, what will happen? These patients will fall back to the general cardiology all of them and the medicine which we are getting for RHD, the follow up and sometimes the phone calls to bring them back , I don’t know about transport refunds but I know about phones calls and follow up will be lost. So the funding should be sustainable, what I see is there right now it might not be sustainable. So funding is not enough."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. And let’s look at the health worker force, how are the numbers and qualifications that you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The numbers now and qualifications, we have 2 physicians with some cardiology training with one in the cardiac patients’ clinics. It’s fair for now because when you are 2, one can even afford to be off today, this week and the other works or you work together one on the ECHO machine and the other treating the patients. For now, it is okay but it also because of the help of RHD (study), the second clinic will close as soon as the RHD clinic study stops. Then in terms of other cadres, we also have senior health officers, doctors who are trying to specialize in internal medicine, they help us. Because we have taught them so they help us. Because this is a teaching hospital, I think the workforce is good for the doctors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Waiting time for our patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Waiting time for our patients varies; if we have many patients in the line we prioritize those ones who are very sick. So whether you have RHD or not, if you are very sick you will be seen. So waiting time will be on average about an hour. Unfortunately, if are dealing with an RHD case, it takes a lot of time on the ECHO machine; it is a tedious exam but if I am dealing with hypertension, 10 minutes and I’m through."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are done!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.241951012428935, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The numbers now and qualifications, we have 2 physicians with some cardiology training with one in the cardiac patients’ clinics. It’s fair for now because when you are 2, one can even afford to be off today, this week and the other works or you work together one on the ECHO machine and the other treating the patients. For now, it is okay but it also because of the help of RHD (study), the second clinic will close as soon as the RHD clinic study stops. Then in terms of other cadres, we also have senior health officers, doctors who are trying to specialize in internal medicine, they help us. Because we have taught them so they help us. Because this is a teaching hospital, I think the workforce is good for the doctors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Waiting time for our patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Waiting time for our patients varies; if we have many patients in the line we prioritize those ones who are very sick. So whether you have RHD or not, if you are very sick you will be seen. So waiting time will be on average about an hour. Unfortunately, if are dealing with an RHD case, it takes a lot of time on the ECHO machine; it is a tedious exam but if I am dealing with hypertension, 10 minutes and I’m through."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are done!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but to study a valve in an academic way because we are in a teaching institution, it will you take a lot of time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It takes a while!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4910566804765937, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Waiting time for our patients varies; if we have many patients in the line we prioritize those ones who are very sick. So whether you have RHD or not, if you are very sick you will be seen. So waiting time will be on average about an hour. Unfortunately, if are dealing with an RHD case, it takes a lot of time on the ECHO machine; it is a tedious exam but if I am dealing with hypertension, 10 minutes and I’m through."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You are done!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but to study a valve in an academic way because we are in a teaching institution, it will you take a lot of time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It takes a while!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So the next patient to come after one rhd patient, it will be about minimum of 30 minutes and maximum 1 hour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you. And then when you look at the quality of care that you are giving to these patients, how is it?\n\nOn average, it's above average. Reason being this being a teaching hospital, I think we tend to follow protocols so it's above average. We may lack some few things but it's above average here.\n\nIt's above but it's not yet there at 100."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0753786178723375, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So the next patient to come after one rhd patient, it will be about minimum of 30 minutes and maximum 1 hour."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you. And then when you look at the quality of care that you are giving to these patients, how is it?\n\nOn average, it's above average. Reason being this being a teaching hospital, I think we tend to follow protocols so it's above average. We may lack some few things but it's above average here.\n\nIt's above but it's not yet there at 100."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not at 100 because of patient numbers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So sometimes you have to wash through and finish the line, so there you don’t do what’s the ideal. You just do the basic that you can and that will be above average."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is that that you can't do especially on busy days when you are working?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.984058460730229, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "On busy days you may not do a full ECHO."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You may do just a basic ECHO and that one affects quality. Let's say if you are studying micro valves, you want to see in details how much RHD has done to eat from the base to the valves themselves to the tips and surrounding areas and you score, you do what is like a weekly score. But when you are in a hurry, you just say severe Mitroscenosis and you put micro valvular ending."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Without scoring!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "but you do not score; you be like, “I want to finish” because it takes a lot of time. You may not calculate the Pulmonary Pressure because it takes a lot of time but you must see severely, this rheumatic and it is schiznosed. We diagnose and you just go. So that is slightly average above average and not ideal. The other thing which might be lacking is patient education; so we shall do diagnosis and send to the nurse to treat or to dispense the treatment. But if we had few patients, we would sit with the patients and say “look, we found this and is because of this.\" So if a patient hears it from the doctor and they may believe it better. And I don't know why, but they tend to believe it better when they hear it from the doctor than a nurse or a second person that simply says, “The doctor said ABCD.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, wonderful. Let's look at the medications; how are the stocks?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.315620511922477, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You may do just a basic ECHO and that one affects quality. Let's say if you are studying micro valves, you want to see in details how much RHD has done to eat from the base to the valves themselves to the tips and surrounding areas and you score, you do what is like a weekly score. But when you are in a hurry, you just say severe Mitroscenosis and you put micro valvular ending."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Without scoring!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "but you do not score; you be like, “I want to finish” because it takes a lot of time. You may not calculate the Pulmonary Pressure because it takes a lot of time but you must see severely, this rheumatic and it is schiznosed. We diagnose and you just go. So that is slightly average above average and not ideal. The other thing which might be lacking is patient education; so we shall do diagnosis and send to the nurse to treat or to dispense the treatment. But if we had few patients, we would sit with the patients and say “look, we found this and is because of this.\" So if a patient hears it from the doctor and they may believe it better. And I don't know why, but they tend to believe it better when they hear it from the doctor than a nurse or a second person that simply says, “The doctor said ABCD.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, wonderful. Let's look at the medications; how are the stocks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really don't know about the stocks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anti coagulation, the heart failure drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.093358656694416, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really don't know about the stocks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anti coagulation, the heart failure drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I want to tell you that I don't know about the stocks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We write and you go get or don't get. So we don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eh, So you don't know much about that."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.548176285216017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I want to tell you that I don't know about the stocks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We write and you go get or don't get. So we don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eh, So you don't know much about that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But for the diagnostics you said have said you have that."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.053529205795574, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We write and you go get or don't get. So we don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eh, So you don't know much about that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But for the diagnostics you said have said you have that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are doing well; we have ECHO which can do a detailed study of what you want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they paying for the services?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.61503245088397, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But for the diagnostics you said have said you have that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are doing well; we have ECHO which can do a detailed study of what you want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they paying for the services?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If they come among the general patients they pay. If they come among the RHD study they don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So for the general, how much do they pay?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 4.586459815906135, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If they come among the general patients they pay. If they come among the RHD study they don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So for the general, how much do they pay?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the ECHO?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They pay 70,000shs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Can many afford that and what do they do when they can't?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7627331287845946, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the ECHO?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They pay 70,000shs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Can many afford that and what do they do when they can't?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well they complain but if they are really poor, there’s a waiver that comes out of bureaucracy to the hospital to waive. So they can't afford in general because 70,000shs, and I told you already 100,000sh is a much. So 70,000sh is close to 100,000shs. It is not really affordable but they struggle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let's look at the health information system you have and the medical records systems, how are they?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0651026281291291, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well they complain but if they are really poor, there’s a waiver that comes out of bureaucracy to the hospital to waive. So they can't afford in general because 70,000shs, and I told you already 100,000sh is a much. So 70,000sh is close to 100,000shs. It is not really affordable but they struggle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let's look at the health information system you have and the medical records systems, how are they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well again I say that for those who are in study, the information is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because they have the papers that are already pre-signed to get the information that you want and there’s a channel of information to even consult work to get and follow. That one among the study, they are good. Those ones who are not in the study, the general cardiologists, we keep in our book. We have two registers one if you are going to do the echo we register you, second in the Computer we put results then actually there’s a 3rd one for the general clinic for the nurse to keep track. But it may not go to the details of the hospital, I don't know how often it goes because it stays in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It stays in your place!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1834473645879213, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well again I say that for those who are in study, the information is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because they have the papers that are already pre-signed to get the information that you want and there’s a channel of information to even consult work to get and follow. That one among the study, they are good. Those ones who are not in the study, the general cardiologists, we keep in our book. We have two registers one if you are going to do the echo we register you, second in the Computer we put results then actually there’s a 3rd one for the general clinic for the nurse to keep track. But it may not go to the details of the hospital, I don't know how often it goes because it stays in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It stays in your place!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Unless the hospital records person comes looking for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have specific registers for ARF and RHD?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3149415162088014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because they have the papers that are already pre-signed to get the information that you want and there’s a channel of information to even consult work to get and follow. That one among the study, they are good. Those ones who are not in the study, the general cardiologists, we keep in our book. We have two registers one if you are going to do the echo we register you, second in the Computer we put results then actually there’s a 3rd one for the general clinic for the nurse to keep track. But it may not go to the details of the hospital, I don't know how often it goes because it stays in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It stays in your place!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Unless the hospital records person comes looking for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have specific registers for ARF and RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those in the study have while those who are not in the study are in the general cardiology register."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. do you have guidelines and protocols for RHD care?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4610461291208905, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Unless the hospital records person comes looking for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have specific registers for ARF and RHD?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those in the study have while those who are not in the study are in the general cardiology register."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. do you have guidelines and protocols for RHD care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those in the study, yes. Those not in the study, is part of the general cardiology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is the general cardiology. Okay."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6233845879121005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those in the study have while those who are not in the study are in the general cardiology register."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay. do you have guidelines and protocols for RHD care?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those in the study, yes. Those not in the study, is part of the general cardiology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is the general cardiology. Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And it is like this clinician’s discretion when RHD has been assumed properly, understood and mastered. So we assume that really every doctor should understand the protocols we treat very well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, because sometimes they need to refer back will they be available?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8037606532356671, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those in the study, yes. Those not in the study, is part of the general cardiology."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is the general cardiology. Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And it is like this clinician’s discretion when RHD has been assumed properly, understood and mastered. So we assume that really every doctor should understand the protocols we treat very well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, because sometimes they need to refer back will they be available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. The good thing is that I have told you that at least 2 physicians have some cardiology training."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s good. So for all the things I have mentioned, administration, funding, health care or workers, the numbers, medication, information flow and protocols. Let's look at the things which are working for you. You said the administration is okay!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0041785035951856, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And it is like this clinician’s discretion when RHD has been assumed properly, understood and mastered. So we assume that really every doctor should understand the protocols we treat very well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, because sometimes they need to refer back will they be available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. The good thing is that I have told you that at least 2 physicians have some cardiology training."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s good. So for all the things I have mentioned, administration, funding, health care or workers, the numbers, medication, information flow and protocols. Let's look at the things which are working for you. You said the administration is okay!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It okay. It is trying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Funding for rhd?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2268650039946505, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. The good thing is that I have told you that at least 2 physicians have some cardiology training."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s good. So for all the things I have mentioned, administration, funding, health care or workers, the numbers, medication, information flow and protocols. Let's look at the things which are working for you. You said the administration is okay!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It okay. It is trying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Funding for rhd?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the study yes, outside the study, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The health work force, you said you have?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.474294448882945, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It okay. It is trying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Funding for rhd?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the study yes, outside the study, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The health work force, you said you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the doctors yes, the nurses no, because we only have one nurse in the clinic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No! For the medication you couldn't say much because you said you don't know."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7492160543143833, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the study yes, outside the study, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The health work force, you said you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the doctors yes, the nurses no, because we only have one nurse in the clinic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No! For the medication you couldn't say much because you said you don't know."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At least for diagnostics you have."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.394093894215288, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At least for diagnostics you have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are doing fairly well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even though it's a bit expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For the health information you said um?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7712154380169864, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are doing fairly well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even though it's a bit expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For the health information you said um?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is 50/50 because we gather the information but I don't know what happens to it afterwards."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. The guidelines and protocols?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.190239375574429, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even though it's a bit expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For the health information you said um?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is 50/50 because we gather the information but I don't know what happens to it afterwards."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. The guidelines and protocols?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don't have the official protocol for those who are not in the study. For those in the study they have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, wonderful. So let’s look at the last set of question; we are looking at your perceptions about patients out comes. Generally do think our patients are getting the care they need?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.655821528416032, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is 50/50 because we gather the information but I don't know what happens to it afterwards."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. The guidelines and protocols?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don't have the official protocol for those who are not in the study. For those in the study they have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, wonderful. So let’s look at the last set of question; we are looking at your perceptions about patients out comes. Generally do think our patients are getting the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and no. Yes, because they get the diagnosis, the first part of care and get basic treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They get basic!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.173135031573369, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don't have the official protocol for those who are not in the study. For those in the study they have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, wonderful. So let’s look at the last set of question; we are looking at your perceptions about patients out comes. Generally do think our patients are getting the care they need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and no. Yes, because they get the diagnosis, the first part of care and get basic treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They get basic!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Basic treatment where I mean we give Penicillin, we give the PEN-V, the Benzathine and a few anti-failure drugs. But I want to tell you that RHD is a surgical disease; many patients who come to us with heart failure need surgery and on that we score zero because they don’t get the surgery. Are you getting me?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. I am getting you."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 5.747927812859299, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and no. Yes, because they get the diagnosis, the first part of care and get basic treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They get basic!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Basic treatment where I mean we give Penicillin, we give the PEN-V, the Benzathine and a few anti-failure drugs. But I want to tell you that RHD is a surgical disease; many patients who come to us with heart failure need surgery and on that we score zero because they don’t get the surgery. Are you getting me?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. I am getting you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because if it’s already RHD giving you heart failure, even you give them Penicillin for whichever amount, it won’t get cured. They still need the surgery to repair the valve or replace it. So there we score very badly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you do for those patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0532531253992214, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Basic treatment where I mean we give Penicillin, we give the PEN-V, the Benzathine and a few anti-failure drugs. But I want to tell you that RHD is a surgical disease; many patients who come to us with heart failure need surgery and on that we score zero because they don’t get the surgery. Are you getting me?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. I am getting you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because if it’s already RHD giving you heart failure, even you give them Penicillin for whichever amount, it won’t get cured. They still need the surgery to repair the valve or replace it. So there we score very badly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you do for those patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We talk to them about moving to the Heart Institute because that’s where they can get the surgery. But I also know the waiting line for those who need surgery at the heart institute is very long. It is very long because surgery is expensive, the little time I was there, most times patients were waiting for camps, those who have money. And again I told you also that if your case is so advanced you are not encouraged for surgery, you are a candidate for palliation and that is very bad for RHD. But if you have heart failure from RHD, it means your RHD is already advanced and medicine will not cure you; you will take them to slow its progression or stop you from having heart failure for some time but you must get surgery to be cured but we don’t have the surgery here. And let me tell you also, when you tell somebody to go to Heart Institute, Mulago- Kampala from here in Mbarara, that is a death sentence; they fear there, whether you tell them things are going to be okay, they fear."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do they fear in Mulago?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3925034726658017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because if it’s already RHD giving you heart failure, even you give them Penicillin for whichever amount, it won’t get cured. They still need the surgery to repair the valve or replace it. So there we score very badly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you do for those patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We talk to them about moving to the Heart Institute because that’s where they can get the surgery. But I also know the waiting line for those who need surgery at the heart institute is very long. It is very long because surgery is expensive, the little time I was there, most times patients were waiting for camps, those who have money. And again I told you also that if your case is so advanced you are not encouraged for surgery, you are a candidate for palliation and that is very bad for RHD. But if you have heart failure from RHD, it means your RHD is already advanced and medicine will not cure you; you will take them to slow its progression or stop you from having heart failure for some time but you must get surgery to be cured but we don’t have the surgery here. And let me tell you also, when you tell somebody to go to Heart Institute, Mulago- Kampala from here in Mbarara, that is a death sentence; they fear there, whether you tell them things are going to be okay, they fear."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do they fear in Mulago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a new place; somebody has never been to Kampala and then the fear of money. They say “eh, to operate the heart is expensive.” Then they also have some hearsay about heart surgery, maybe relatives who were operated and died. So they say, “eh when they touch your heart, you will die” Unfortunately, some cases may be true, maybe someone died after heart surgery so if somebody hears about it they misunderstand it. So there’s a big fear for going for surgery."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So that means the communities these patients stay in also contribute to the attitude they have!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.769448302962002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We talk to them about moving to the Heart Institute because that’s where they can get the surgery. But I also know the waiting line for those who need surgery at the heart institute is very long. It is very long because surgery is expensive, the little time I was there, most times patients were waiting for camps, those who have money. And again I told you also that if your case is so advanced you are not encouraged for surgery, you are a candidate for palliation and that is very bad for RHD. But if you have heart failure from RHD, it means your RHD is already advanced and medicine will not cure you; you will take them to slow its progression or stop you from having heart failure for some time but you must get surgery to be cured but we don’t have the surgery here. And let me tell you also, when you tell somebody to go to Heart Institute, Mulago- Kampala from here in Mbarara, that is a death sentence; they fear there, whether you tell them things are going to be okay, they fear."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do they fear in Mulago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a new place; somebody has never been to Kampala and then the fear of money. They say “eh, to operate the heart is expensive.” Then they also have some hearsay about heart surgery, maybe relatives who were operated and died. So they say, “eh when they touch your heart, you will die” Unfortunately, some cases may be true, maybe someone died after heart surgery so if somebody hears about it they misunderstand it. So there’s a big fear for going for surgery."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So that means the communities these patients stay in also contribute to the attitude they have!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely they contribute! When you ever tell someone that “you are going for heart surgery” or they need heart surgery, huh, they are already devastated because when they go back to the community and they say” I went and saw the doctor he really diagnosed the disease that I have heart problem and I will need operation/surgery” then they will go for herbal medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They go for herbal medicine!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.188275892180002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a new place; somebody has never been to Kampala and then the fear of money. They say “eh, to operate the heart is expensive.” Then they also have some hearsay about heart surgery, maybe relatives who were operated and died. So they say, “eh when they touch your heart, you will die” Unfortunately, some cases may be true, maybe someone died after heart surgery so if somebody hears about it they misunderstand it. So there’s a big fear for going for surgery."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So that means the communities these patients stay in also contribute to the attitude they have!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely they contribute! When you ever tell someone that “you are going for heart surgery” or they need heart surgery, huh, they are already devastated because when they go back to the community and they say” I went and saw the doctor he really diagnosed the disease that I have heart problem and I will need operation/surgery” then they will go for herbal medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They go for herbal medicine!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes because they believe that “ah, heart surgery is too much; you are going to die. I better take this herbal.” They have a lot of perception then them for herbal medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when these patients tell their families that “I have RHD” are they encouraged? How are they ...?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.653639880200002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Definitely they contribute! When you ever tell someone that “you are going for heart surgery” or they need heart surgery, huh, they are already devastated because when they go back to the community and they say” I went and saw the doctor he really diagnosed the disease that I have heart problem and I will need operation/surgery” then they will go for herbal medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They go for herbal medicine!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes because they believe that “ah, heart surgery is too much; you are going to die. I better take this herbal.” They have a lot of perception then them for herbal medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when these patients tell their families that “I have RHD” are they encouraged? How are they ...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are shattered."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are shattered!"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.170710978000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes because they believe that “ah, heart surgery is too much; you are going to die. I better take this herbal.” They have a lot of perception then them for herbal medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when these patients tell their families that “I have RHD” are they encouraged? How are they ...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are shattered."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are shattered!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me I have seen from experience; you tell somebody “your child has RHD” and you tell them what RHD is, general information, they are shattered. They start thinking that maybe they are cursed because there are not many people who get RHD how come only few get RHD. Then they start getting second opinions from very many people, unfortunately they get messed up by some people so where. So it is very bad news."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do they specific local herbs they use if they don’t come?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.745234420000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are shattered."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are shattered!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me I have seen from experience; you tell somebody “your child has RHD” and you tell them what RHD is, general information, they are shattered. They start thinking that maybe they are cursed because there are not many people who get RHD how come only few get RHD. Then they start getting second opinions from very many people, unfortunately they get messed up by some people so where. So it is very bad news."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do they specific local herbs they use if they don’t come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some famous herbs over the radio and a lot of adverts. Some herbs are maybe what, some people say they treat everything; diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, cancer and everything. So even if someone hears that one, even if I don’t mention names, it is even on the radio."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because in Kampala especially in Buganda region, for sore throat there’s what they call omwetango that’s the common herb."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.383593800000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me I have seen from experience; you tell somebody “your child has RHD” and you tell them what RHD is, general information, they are shattered. They start thinking that maybe they are cursed because there are not many people who get RHD how come only few get RHD. Then they start getting second opinions from very many people, unfortunately they get messed up by some people so where. So it is very bad news."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do they specific local herbs they use if they don’t come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some famous herbs over the radio and a lot of adverts. Some herbs are maybe what, some people say they treat everything; diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, cancer and everything. So even if someone hears that one, even if I don’t mention names, it is even on the radio."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because in Kampala especially in Buganda region, for sore throat there’s what they call omwetango that’s the common herb."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Omwetango here is used for constipation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They use it for constipation! Is there anything they use here for sore throat?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.092882000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some famous herbs over the radio and a lot of adverts. Some herbs are maybe what, some people say they treat everything; diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, cancer and everything. So even if someone hears that one, even if I don’t mention names, it is even on the radio."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because in Kampala especially in Buganda region, for sore throat there’s what they call omwetango that’s the common herb."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Omwetango here is used for constipation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They use it for constipation! Is there anything they use here for sore throat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They use eucalyptus leaves, you make juice. Because that eucalyptus treats flu, it is actually real, it helps with flu. So some people run to it for sore throat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So doctor do you have any patients’ safety concerns and quality of care ... Of course quality of care we handled, did you see any practice and you feel that it is putting their health at risk?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 7.880980000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Omwetango here is used for constipation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They use it for constipation! Is there anything they use here for sore throat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They use eucalyptus leaves, you make juice. Because that eucalyptus treats flu, it is actually real, it helps with flu. So some people run to it for sore throat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So doctor do you have any patients’ safety concerns and quality of care ... Of course quality of care we handled, did you see any practice and you feel that it is putting their health at risk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe anti-coagulants; Warfarin. In the study there’s ease of measuring INR, but outside the study, we are in the dark. We move in the dark."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t know?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 4.312200000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They use eucalyptus leaves, you make juice. Because that eucalyptus treats flu, it is actually real, it helps with flu. So some people run to it for sore throat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So doctor do you have any patients’ safety concerns and quality of care ... Of course quality of care we handled, did you see any practice and you feel that it is putting their health at risk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe anti-coagulants; Warfarin. In the study there’s ease of measuring INR, but outside the study, we are in the dark. We move in the dark."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We move in the dark. We monitor it once a month when the patient comes back and you see there are some patients who don’t tolerate this simple 5mg of Warfarin and it’s the one available, the 1mgs, 2mg are in Kampala. So here we do 5mg, 10mg, 7mg and you are not going to see a patient next or another week; you will see a patient after one month or 2 months or wherever they come back. That puts them on at risk yet they need the warfarin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is that here you have 5mg?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4580000000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe anti-coagulants; Warfarin. In the study there’s ease of measuring INR, but outside the study, we are in the dark. We move in the dark."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don’t know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We move in the dark. We monitor it once a month when the patient comes back and you see there are some patients who don’t tolerate this simple 5mg of Warfarin and it’s the one available, the 1mgs, 2mg are in Kampala. So here we do 5mg, 10mg, 7mg and you are not going to see a patient next or another week; you will see a patient after one month or 2 months or wherever they come back. That puts them on at risk yet they need the warfarin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is that here you have 5mg?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s what is on the market. You see the market forces of pharmacies, you will not stock 1mg when many clinicians only know 5mg. The 1mg and 2mg of warfarin are newer, so when you stock them they will expire."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So have you witnessed any preventable deaths occurring in the hospital? Surely you look at this death and you say “no, no”"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.62, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We move in the dark. We monitor it once a month when the patient comes back and you see there are some patients who don’t tolerate this simple 5mg of Warfarin and it’s the one available, the 1mgs, 2mg are in Kampala. So here we do 5mg, 10mg, 7mg and you are not going to see a patient next or another week; you will see a patient after one month or 2 months or wherever they come back. That puts them on at risk yet they need the warfarin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is that here you have 5mg?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s what is on the market. You see the market forces of pharmacies, you will not stock 1mg when many clinicians only know 5mg. The 1mg and 2mg of warfarin are newer, so when you stock them they will expire."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So have you witnessed any preventable deaths occurring in the hospital? Surely you look at this death and you say “no, no”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really. The ones I could say were preventable are these patients who get lost to follow up and then they come back when the heart failure is advanced, they have arrhythmias, they are so dilated, they have clots and you have nothing to do about it. So those are the preventable deaths but not those that have not been diagnosed because of the availability of the machine, it has done magic, tests you know what you are doing. It is very straight forward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So do you think there are patients dying in the community without ever presenting to the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really. The ones I could say were preventable are these patients who get lost to follow up and then they come back when the heart failure is advanced, they have arrhythmias, they are so dilated, they have clots and you have nothing to do about it. So those are the preventable deaths but not those that have not been diagnosed because of the availability of the machine, it has done magic, tests you know what you are doing. It is very straight forward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So do you think there are patients dying in the community without ever presenting to the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very many. I told you the problem is herbal medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Herbal!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. It is very terrible; it keeps a lot of people at home drinking and drinking, and then they even reach a point of dying there. Then others get lost in lower health units, health center IV may not have much knowledge about it so they could diagnose these people even with TB, can you imagine! Because they have cough that doesn’t go away or because they have other issues, they may not diagnose RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the last question, in your opinion, what are the two most important things Ministry Of Health should do to improve the outcome of our patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very many. I told you the problem is herbal medicine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Herbal!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. It is very terrible; it keeps a lot of people at home drinking and drinking, and then they even reach a point of dying there. Then others get lost in lower health units, health center IV may not have much knowledge about it so they could diagnose these people even with TB, can you imagine! Because they have cough that doesn’t go away or because they have other issues, they may not diagnose RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the last question, in your opinion, what are the two most important things Ministry Of Health should do to improve the outcome of our patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Increase awareness through many programs, either radio or community visits or health education to know that RHD is real and at least we know we can prevent it by ABC. So let them increase the health education. It’s in many ways; it is in the communities among health workers, and even in schools. Can you imagine 100 pupils in primary residing in one dormitory or even 200, because the school has 300 students? So something has to be done by the Ministry of Health and Education jointly because people get exposure from that. Then after that, we shall also need to make available the services because when you already got the disease, you need to be treated early to slow its progression. Then to cure it, it is with surgery but then let the valves be made available because valves are the ones that make heart surgery expensive. Those are the two things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Thank you so much. Anything else before we finish?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00017:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. It is very terrible; it keeps a lot of people at home drinking and drinking, and then they even reach a point of dying there. Then others get lost in lower health units, health center IV may not have much knowledge about it so they could diagnose these people even with TB, can you imagine! Because they have cough that doesn’t go away or because they have other issues, they may not diagnose RHD."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the last question, in your opinion, what are the two most important things Ministry Of Health should do to improve the outcome of our patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Increase awareness through many programs, either radio or community visits or health education to know that RHD is real and at least we know we can prevent it by ABC. So let them increase the health education. It’s in many ways; it is in the communities among health workers, and even in schools. Can you imagine 100 pupils in primary residing in one dormitory or even 200, because the school has 300 students? So something has to be done by the Ministry of Health and Education jointly because people get exposure from that. Then after that, we shall also need to make available the services because when you already got the disease, you need to be treated early to slow its progression. Then to cure it, it is with surgery but then let the valves be made available because valves are the ones that make heart surgery expensive. Those are the two things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Thank you so much. Anything else before we finish?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I just want to thank you for this opportunity and to tell you that RHD can be eradicated too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow. Okay, good to hear that. Thank you so much for your wonderful views. We are going to use them with a couple others to see how best we can come up with a strategy of improving the outcomes of RHD."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1462356069640194, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Get the management to see the value of the project and act as ambassadors of change"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if your organizational change project could be perceived as a story… Who was the protagonist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "HR manager (me)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the antagonist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Few senior employees accustomed to the old HR-less way of working"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What inciting moment motivated the protagonist to start the journey (the what if…)?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4958173410711324, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "HR manager (me)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the antagonist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Few senior employees accustomed to the old HR-less way of working"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What inciting moment motivated the protagonist to start the journey (the what if…)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The biggest motivation was actually internal - it was the belief that the entire company could benefit from decent HR department"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the biggest conflict?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.884241490079036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Few senior employees accustomed to the old HR-less way of working"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What inciting moment motivated the protagonist to start the journey (the what if…)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The biggest motivation was actually internal - it was the belief that the entire company could benefit from decent HR department"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the biggest conflict?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fighting against the negative image created by a couple of senior managers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the genre of this story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.315823877865595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The biggest motivation was actually internal - it was the belief that the entire company could benefit from decent HR department"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the biggest conflict?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fighting against the negative image created by a couple of senior managers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the genre of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my perspective, it was an adventure with a dash of comedy and pinch of drama"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the moral of this story?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.795359864295106, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fighting against the negative image created by a couple of senior managers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the genre of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my perspective, it was an adventure with a dash of comedy and pinch of drama"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the moral of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Stay true to yourself and the rest will sort itself out"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the dark inversion of this story (good gone bad, or bad gone good)?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.328177626994562, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my perspective, it was an adventure with a dash of comedy and pinch of drama"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would be the moral of this story?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Stay true to yourself and the rest will sort itself out"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the dark inversion of this story (good gone bad, or bad gone good)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The person who I saw as my biggest ally, turned out to be the heaviest burden on my journey."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your most frequently used metaphor?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.80908625221618, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Stay true to yourself and the rest will sort itself out"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the dark inversion of this story (good gone bad, or bad gone good)?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The person who I saw as my biggest ally, turned out to be the heaviest burden on my journey."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your most frequently used metaphor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If the mountain won't come to Muhammad, Muhammad must go to the mountain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your biggest revelation?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.343429169129089, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The person who I saw as my biggest ally, turned out to be the heaviest burden on my journey."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your most frequently used metaphor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If the mountain won't come to Muhammad, Muhammad must go to the mountain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your biggest revelation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t use all the resources that were at my disposal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an anecdote which demonstrates how change recipients were behaving when they had no knowledge of the upcoming organizational change."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.826032410143432, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If the mountain won't come to Muhammad, Muhammad must go to the mountain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is your biggest revelation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t use all the resources that were at my disposal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an anecdote which demonstrates how change recipients were behaving when they had no knowledge of the upcoming organizational change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The company I worked for existed for 27 years without an HR department. Everything people related was handled with a laissez-faire attitude and with none or little consistency. They liked it that way because it didn’t feel stiff and corporate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how the knowledge of organizational change was initially started?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.362258233492702, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t use all the resources that were at my disposal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an anecdote which demonstrates how change recipients were behaving when they had no knowledge of the upcoming organizational change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The company I worked for existed for 27 years without an HR department. Everything people related was handled with a laissez-faire attitude and with none or little consistency. They liked it that way because it didn’t feel stiff and corporate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how the knowledge of organizational change was initially started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Upon my arrival, I quickly became aware that I was basically on my own. Management was showing no interest and my job was to sparkle some in them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you articulate the “awakening” moment where the organizational change was formally initiated?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.846953592769669, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The company I worked for existed for 27 years without an HR department. Everything people related was handled with a laissez-faire attitude and with none or little consistency. They liked it that way because it didn’t feel stiff and corporate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how the knowledge of organizational change was initially started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Upon my arrival, I quickly became aware that I was basically on my own. Management was showing no interest and my job was to sparkle some in them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you articulate the “awakening” moment where the organizational change was formally initiated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I decided to use my first weeks to introduce myself and the HR function to everyone in the company. I wanted them to get a glimpse of me as a person, but at the same I wanted them to see what benefits they could get from having a dedicated HR person in their working environment. The “tool” I chose on that quest was one funny (at least I thought it was funny) and informative PowerPoint presentation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did change recipients express doubt towards the change project?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.385503991966298, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Upon my arrival, I quickly became aware that I was basically on my own. Management was showing no interest and my job was to sparkle some in them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you articulate the “awakening” moment where the organizational change was formally initiated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I decided to use my first weeks to introduce myself and the HR function to everyone in the company. I wanted them to get a glimpse of me as a person, but at the same I wanted them to see what benefits they could get from having a dedicated HR person in their working environment. The “tool” I chose on that quest was one funny (at least I thought it was funny) and informative PowerPoint presentation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did change recipients express doubt towards the change project?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the biggest doubts people had was that my arrival meant that everything will become more strict, rigid and corporate. Everyone was pretty vocal about that, and didn’t regard my feelings particularly. They spoke about me as if I wasn’t present in the room and complained about what could be one of the outcomes. Open communication is something that is really (in theory) valued in the agency environment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how you addressed this challenge?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.761671102184776, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I decided to use my first weeks to introduce myself and the HR function to everyone in the company. I wanted them to get a glimpse of me as a person, but at the same I wanted them to see what benefits they could get from having a dedicated HR person in their working environment. The “tool” I chose on that quest was one funny (at least I thought it was funny) and informative PowerPoint presentation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did change recipients express doubt towards the change project?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the biggest doubts people had was that my arrival meant that everything will become more strict, rigid and corporate. Everyone was pretty vocal about that, and didn’t regard my feelings particularly. They spoke about me as if I wasn’t present in the room and complained about what could be one of the outcomes. Open communication is something that is really (in theory) valued in the agency environment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how you addressed this challenge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I tried to make it all seem fun and “light”. I remember attaching a Toby Flenderson (not so popular HR character from The Office) meme on one of my PowerPoint slides. Also I always emphasized that I also hate corporate environments and that I will never make a big change in the company without consulting its employees first."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an example of growing reluctance to accept the change and who was challenging you the most?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.068523446871973, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the biggest doubts people had was that my arrival meant that everything will become more strict, rigid and corporate. Everyone was pretty vocal about that, and didn’t regard my feelings particularly. They spoke about me as if I wasn’t present in the room and complained about what could be one of the outcomes. Open communication is something that is really (in theory) valued in the agency environment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how you addressed this challenge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I tried to make it all seem fun and “light”. I remember attaching a Toby Flenderson (not so popular HR character from The Office) meme on one of my PowerPoint slides. Also I always emphasized that I also hate corporate environments and that I will never make a big change in the company without consulting its employees first."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an example of growing reluctance to accept the change and who was challenging you the most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Unfortunately, I can’t single out just one person… Creative department was most reluctant to accept the change. I’m still not sure was it just because of the personalities of Creative directors (people who are department heads/team leads to all creatives at the company) or was it because of the nature of their job (not so structured or easily definable). As everything in life, truth is probably somewhere in between."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve “acceptance”?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4094704965244147, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I tried to make it all seem fun and “light”. I remember attaching a Toby Flenderson (not so popular HR character from The Office) meme on one of my PowerPoint slides. Also I always emphasized that I also hate corporate environments and that I will never make a big change in the company without consulting its employees first."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through an example of growing reluctance to accept the change and who was challenging you the most?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Unfortunately, I can’t single out just one person… Creative department was most reluctant to accept the change. I’m still not sure was it just because of the personalities of Creative directors (people who are department heads/team leads to all creatives at the company) or was it because of the nature of their job (not so structured or easily definable). As everything in life, truth is probably somewhere in between."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve “acceptance”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t achieve universal acceptance. Some of the team leaders accepted my endeavors and for that reason their team members were mostly receptive as well. How did I manage their acceptance? By showing up when they needed me, demonstrating how their job can be easier because the HR department but also by showing them my personality and “human” side. Some of the team leaders stayed reluctant and did the bare minimum just so no one would call them out for being a bad team player."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to change recipients?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.788300551693794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Unfortunately, I can’t single out just one person… Creative department was most reluctant to accept the change. I’m still not sure was it just because of the personalities of Creative directors (people who are department heads/team leads to all creatives at the company) or was it because of the nature of their job (not so structured or easily definable). As everything in life, truth is probably somewhere in between."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve “acceptance”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t achieve universal acceptance. Some of the team leaders accepted my endeavors and for that reason their team members were mostly receptive as well. How did I manage their acceptance? By showing up when they needed me, demonstrating how their job can be easier because the HR department but also by showing them my personality and “human” side. Some of the team leaders stayed reluctant and did the bare minimum just so no one would call them out for being a bad team player."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I always asked for feedback. Knowing what made sense to them and what they saw as irrelevant was a really important part in entire change implementation journey of mine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how change recipients experimented with available knowledge after accepting change?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0981117241042155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t achieve universal acceptance. Some of the team leaders accepted my endeavors and for that reason their team members were mostly receptive as well. How did I manage their acceptance? By showing up when they needed me, demonstrating how their job can be easier because the HR department but also by showing them my personality and “human” side. Some of the team leaders stayed reluctant and did the bare minimum just so no one would call them out for being a bad team player."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I always asked for feedback. Knowing what made sense to them and what they saw as irrelevant was a really important part in entire change implementation journey of mine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how change recipients experimented with available knowledge after accepting change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t recall one specific event. All Change recipients started to include me in people related questions and ask for my advice where they thought it would come in handy. At first it was hard for them to distinguish what is and what isn’t my area of responsibility. It was my duty to guide them through that process. For example, it is not HRs responsibility to provide feedback to people, but HR can and should help team leaders when they need to give feedback."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the moment of “big change” that initiated this positive change in attitudes of change recipients?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.442346360115795, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I always asked for feedback. Knowing what made sense to them and what they saw as irrelevant was a really important part in entire change implementation journey of mine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall how change recipients experimented with available knowledge after accepting change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t recall one specific event. All Change recipients started to include me in people related questions and ask for my advice where they thought it would come in handy. At first it was hard for them to distinguish what is and what isn’t my area of responsibility. It was my duty to guide them through that process. For example, it is not HRs responsibility to provide feedback to people, but HR can and should help team leaders when they need to give feedback."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the moment of “big change” that initiated this positive change in attitudes of change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wouldn't say there was one moment of “big change”. As I said in one of the previous questions the positive change was visible in some of the change recipients while others stayed reluctant through the entire process. Those who accepted the change needed some time to start trusting me so it was more of a process and less of a “aha moment” thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who did you reach out to first when experimenting after this “big change”?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.82482928901755, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t recall one specific event. All Change recipients started to include me in people related questions and ask for my advice where they thought it would come in handy. At first it was hard for them to distinguish what is and what isn’t my area of responsibility. It was my duty to guide them through that process. For example, it is not HRs responsibility to provide feedback to people, but HR can and should help team leaders when they need to give feedback."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you say was the moment of “big change” that initiated this positive change in attitudes of change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wouldn't say there was one moment of “big change”. As I said in one of the previous questions the positive change was visible in some of the change recipients while others stayed reluctant through the entire process. Those who accepted the change needed some time to start trusting me so it was more of a process and less of a “aha moment” thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who did you reach out to first when experimenting after this “big change”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My biggest supporters were definitely the company's CFO, Head of Digital and one Account Director."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how these events went?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.249810321130611, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wouldn't say there was one moment of “big change”. As I said in one of the previous questions the positive change was visible in some of the change recipients while others stayed reluctant through the entire process. Those who accepted the change needed some time to start trusting me so it was more of a process and less of a “aha moment” thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who did you reach out to first when experimenting after this “big change”?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My biggest supporters were definitely the company's CFO, Head of Digital and one Account Director."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how these events went?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were some issues at this stage as well… Even though my supporters were highly ranked people in the company, the problem was that some of them weren’t really popular with other colleagues. With this knowledge I have after everything is behind me, I would choose my allies more carefully."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to your change recipients after they expressed doubt for the second time?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.722011467922901, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My biggest supporters were definitely the company's CFO, Head of Digital and one Account Director."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote of how these events went?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were some issues at this stage as well… Even though my supporters were highly ranked people in the company, the problem was that some of them weren’t really popular with other colleagues. With this knowledge I have after everything is behind me, I would choose my allies more carefully."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to your change recipients after they expressed doubt for the second time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I always tried to cope with every doubt they had individually. It was my opinion that my change leaders would be more open while talking with me privately. So to answer this question more precisely, I told everyone I was open for criticism but I asked them to be as precise as they can and give me real examples of situations that made them question the change I was trying to make."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall who was the loudest and how you addressed these comments?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0244571865810004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were some issues at this stage as well… Even though my supporters were highly ranked people in the company, the problem was that some of them weren’t really popular with other colleagues. With this knowledge I have after everything is behind me, I would choose my allies more carefully."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What exactly did you communicate to your change recipients after they expressed doubt for the second time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I always tried to cope with every doubt they had individually. It was my opinion that my change leaders would be more open while talking with me privately. So to answer this question more precisely, I told everyone I was open for criticism but I asked them to be as precise as they can and give me real examples of situations that made them question the change I was trying to make."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall who was the loudest and how you addressed these comments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The loudest was one of the Account Directors who joined the company almost one year after my arrival. In her opinion, I was very biased and didn’t treat everyone equally. She was convinced that I held back some information from her. After I became aware she felt that way, I introduced a 1-on-1 bi-monthly meeting to our schedules to regularly address every relevant topic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through how you handled this second round of growing reluctance among change recipients."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.3605079850900004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I always tried to cope with every doubt they had individually. It was my opinion that my change leaders would be more open while talking with me privately. So to answer this question more precisely, I told everyone I was open for criticism but I asked them to be as precise as they can and give me real examples of situations that made them question the change I was trying to make."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall who was the loudest and how you addressed these comments?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The loudest was one of the Account Directors who joined the company almost one year after my arrival. In her opinion, I was very biased and didn’t treat everyone equally. She was convinced that I held back some information from her. After I became aware she felt that way, I introduced a 1-on-1 bi-monthly meeting to our schedules to regularly address every relevant topic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through how you handled this second round of growing reluctance among change recipients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My goal was to gain (and in some cases regain) trust among change recipients. My new “modus operandi” was to carefully plan the speed of implementing new processes. Slow and steady wins the race. Everyone remembers the tale of turtle and rabbit, right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the biggest obstacles during this stage?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6227866501000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The loudest was one of the Account Directors who joined the company almost one year after my arrival. In her opinion, I was very biased and didn’t treat everyone equally. She was convinced that I held back some information from her. After I became aware she felt that way, I introduced a 1-on-1 bi-monthly meeting to our schedules to regularly address every relevant topic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through how you handled this second round of growing reluctance among change recipients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My goal was to gain (and in some cases regain) trust among change recipients. My new “modus operandi” was to carefully plan the speed of implementing new processes. Slow and steady wins the race. Everyone remembers the tale of turtle and rabbit, right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the biggest obstacles during this stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Frankly, the biggest obstacle during this stage was the occurrence of the Covid19 situation that opened up a whole new set of challenges. The entire agency switched from “growth mode” to “survival mode” and it was really difficult for me to pursue my initial agenda."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall the most difficult conversation you’ve had to manage during this phase?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9142073890000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My goal was to gain (and in some cases regain) trust among change recipients. My new “modus operandi” was to carefully plan the speed of implementing new processes. Slow and steady wins the race. Everyone remembers the tale of turtle and rabbit, right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the biggest obstacles during this stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Frankly, the biggest obstacle during this stage was the occurrence of the Covid19 situation that opened up a whole new set of challenges. The entire agency switched from “growth mode” to “survival mode” and it was really difficult for me to pursue my initial agenda."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall the most difficult conversation you’ve had to manage during this phase?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Instead of going forward, this stage sent me a few steps backwards. One of my main tasks was to determine criteria for lowering wages and letting people go. The most difficult conversations in that period were communicating those changes and later on explaining them to people who weren’t directly affected by them (but they had a lot of empathy for their colleagues)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote covering the regression of change recipients from the stage of accepting change towards resisting change again."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2380082100000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Frankly, the biggest obstacle during this stage was the occurrence of the Covid19 situation that opened up a whole new set of challenges. The entire agency switched from “growth mode” to “survival mode” and it was really difficult for me to pursue my initial agenda."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall the most difficult conversation you’ve had to manage during this phase?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Instead of going forward, this stage sent me a few steps backwards. One of my main tasks was to determine criteria for lowering wages and letting people go. The most difficult conversations in that period were communicating those changes and later on explaining them to people who weren’t directly affected by them (but they had a lot of empathy for their colleagues)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote covering the regression of change recipients from the stage of accepting change towards resisting change again."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The episodes that really stuck with me were when people didn’t believe in the structured process of introducing COVID measures. This was a huge setback in implementing every HR process in general because people felt like HR was working against them. Great example of how people wanted to “rebel” against said measures was the episode when they wanted to start a petition to rehire a colleague who got fired."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the most important insights from this stage in your opinion?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5977869, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Instead of going forward, this stage sent me a few steps backwards. One of my main tasks was to determine criteria for lowering wages and letting people go. The most difficult conversations in that period were communicating those changes and later on explaining them to people who weren’t directly affected by them (but they had a lot of empathy for their colleagues)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you recall an anecdote covering the regression of change recipients from the stage of accepting change towards resisting change again."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The episodes that really stuck with me were when people didn’t believe in the structured process of introducing COVID measures. This was a huge setback in implementing every HR process in general because people felt like HR was working against them. Great example of how people wanted to “rebel” against said measures was the episode when they wanted to start a petition to rehire a colleague who got fired."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the most important insights from this stage in your opinion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most important insight I gained during this period is that I underestimated the power of emotions at the workplace. I always thought that ratio is stronger in a business environment, but after this experience I will always keep in mind the strength emotions possess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the most resilient and how did you handle this challenge?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.997541, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The episodes that really stuck with me were when people didn’t believe in the structured process of introducing COVID measures. This was a huge setback in implementing every HR process in general because people felt like HR was working against them. Great example of how people wanted to “rebel” against said measures was the episode when they wanted to start a petition to rehire a colleague who got fired."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the most important insights from this stage in your opinion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most important insight I gained during this period is that I underestimated the power of emotions at the workplace. I always thought that ratio is stronger in a business environment, but after this experience I will always keep in mind the strength emotions possess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the most resilient and how did you handle this challenge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most resilient change recipients were people who were resilient from the start. Eventually I accepted the fact that I can’t have everyone on board and eager to change as I would like them to be. Still, I tried to keep them engaged, informed and asked for feedback regularly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through the process of reawakening change acceptance within change recipients."}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.21949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most important insight I gained during this period is that I underestimated the power of emotions at the workplace. I always thought that ratio is stronger in a business environment, but after this experience I will always keep in mind the strength emotions possess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the most resilient and how did you handle this challenge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most resilient change recipients were people who were resilient from the start. Eventually I accepted the fact that I can’t have everyone on board and eager to change as I would like them to be. Still, I tried to keep them engaged, informed and asked for feedback regularly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through the process of reawakening change acceptance within change recipients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two months after infamous COVID measures, everything was (relatively) back to normal and I was (kinda) back on track. I had numerous meetings with my main stakeholders to prioritize our next moves. In my opinion, co-creation of a new plan was a crucial key for reigniting the fire of change acceptance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve it and what were the early signs of them experiencing reawakening?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.4661, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most resilient change recipients were people who were resilient from the start. Eventually I accepted the fact that I can’t have everyone on board and eager to change as I would like them to be. Still, I tried to keep them engaged, informed and asked for feedback regularly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk me through the process of reawakening change acceptance within change recipients."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two months after infamous COVID measures, everything was (relatively) back to normal and I was (kinda) back on track. I had numerous meetings with my main stakeholders to prioritize our next moves. In my opinion, co-creation of a new plan was a crucial key for reigniting the fire of change acceptance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve it and what were the early signs of them experiencing reawakening?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I firmly believed that the change I was proposing would benefit everyone. I stayed consistent, open and I think a lot of people recognized and respected that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was your strongest ally at this stage?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.629, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two months after infamous COVID measures, everything was (relatively) back to normal and I was (kinda) back on track. I had numerous meetings with my main stakeholders to prioritize our next moves. In my opinion, co-creation of a new plan was a crucial key for reigniting the fire of change acceptance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you manage to achieve it and what were the early signs of them experiencing reawakening?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I firmly believed that the change I was proposing would benefit everyone. I stayed consistent, open and I think a lot of people recognized and respected that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was your strongest ally at this stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People who were by my side from the beginning of this journey. CFO, Head of Digital, one of the Account Directors. Interesting thing was that I gathered a significant number of supporters in the lower levels of hierarchy as well. That showed me I was on the right track."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the first signs of successful transformation with change recipients?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I firmly believed that the change I was proposing would benefit everyone. I stayed consistent, open and I think a lot of people recognized and respected that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was your strongest ally at this stage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People who were by my side from the beginning of this journey. CFO, Head of Digital, one of the Account Directors. Interesting thing was that I gathered a significant number of supporters in the lower levels of hierarchy as well. That showed me I was on the right track."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the first signs of successful transformation with change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I asked every single employee to give their feedback on HR during the 360 evaluation process in the company. Results were much better than I expected. Some teams were still pretty resilient, but the situation wasn’t critical. Everyone (event the critics) saw something positive in this org change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you recognize the occurrence of true mastery in accepting change?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People who were by my side from the beginning of this journey. CFO, Head of Digital, one of the Account Directors. Interesting thing was that I gathered a significant number of supporters in the lower levels of hierarchy as well. That showed me I was on the right track."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the first signs of successful transformation with change recipients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I asked every single employee to give their feedback on HR during the 360 evaluation process in the company. Results were much better than I expected. Some teams were still pretty resilient, but the situation wasn’t critical. Everyone (event the critics) saw something positive in this org change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you recognize the occurrence of true mastery in accepting change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I left the company before the change was fully accepted. But some of the strongest signs of change acceptance in my last few months was that my loudest “opponents” were slowly getting on board and were even providing me with constructive feedback."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main point you managed to get across?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I asked every single employee to give their feedback on HR during the 360 evaluation process in the company. Results were much better than I expected. Some teams were still pretty resilient, but the situation wasn’t critical. Everyone (event the critics) saw something positive in this org change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you recognize the occurrence of true mastery in accepting change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I left the company before the change was fully accepted. But some of the strongest signs of change acceptance in my last few months was that my loudest “opponents” were slowly getting on board and were even providing me with constructive feedback."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main point you managed to get across?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Organizational change is not a (sprint) race, it is a marathon. Good alliance planning and a lot of co- creation are must-haves when you’re trying to implement a huge organizational change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the most important thing to highlight here?"}]} {"block_id": "leaders-leading-organizational-change-00007:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I left the company before the change was fully accepted. But some of the strongest signs of change acceptance in my last few months was that my loudest “opponents” were slowly getting on board and were even providing me with constructive feedback."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main point you managed to get across?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Organizational change is not a (sprint) race, it is a marathon. Good alliance planning and a lot of co- creation are must-haves when you’re trying to implement a huge organizational change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the most important thing to highlight here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can plan all you want, but you must also expect the unexpected. For example, my plans were shaken to the core with COVID19 pandemic (external factor nobody could have predicted)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great, with that being said, I think we’ve got enough material to analyze. Thank you very much for taking the time to go through these details."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.821309486024487, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so it does get a little bit repetitive towards the end. But, you know, here we are. All right, so the first one I confirm that I have read the information sheet for this study. I've had the opportunity to consider the information to ask questions and I've had these questions answered satisfactorily."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that my participation is voluntary, and then I am free to withdraw it anytime without giving any reason. I also understand that I can decline to answer any questions during the interview."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that information collected during my interview may be looked at by other researchers from Newcastle University who are working on or assisting with the study and give permission for these individuals to have access to this information."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.245899428916097, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that my participation is voluntary, and then I am free to withdraw it anytime without giving any reason. I also understand that I can decline to answer any questions during the interview."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that information collected during my interview may be looked at by other researchers from Newcastle University who are working on or assisting with the study and give permission for these individuals to have access to this information."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that information collected during the interview may be shared with other researchers for use in future research or teaching purposes that the data will be thoroughly anonymized first."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.717666032128997, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that information collected during my interview may be looked at by other researchers from Newcastle University who are working on or assisting with the study and give permission for these individuals to have access to this information."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that information collected during the interview may be shared with other researchers for use in future research or teaching purposes that the data will be thoroughly anonymized first."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that the interview will be audio video recorded according to my preference typed out and that all identifying personal details will be removed."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.241851146809996, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that information collected during the interview may be shared with other researchers for use in future research or teaching purposes that the data will be thoroughly anonymized first."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that the interview will be audio video recorded according to my preference typed out and that all identifying personal details will be removed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that direct quotations may be taken from what I say and used in research or publications, but that I will not be identifiable from these quotations."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.824279052011106, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that the interview will be audio video recorded according to my preference typed out and that all identifying personal details will be removed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that direct quotations may be taken from what I say and used in research or publications, but that I will not be identifiable from these quotations."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I agree to take part in this study."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.471421168901229, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I understand that direct quotations may be taken from what I say and used in research or publications, but that I will not be identifiable from these quotations."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I agree to take part in this study."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Excellent. And then there's just two other things here. If you'd like to receive a copy of the research findings. You can either tell me that. Now, or you can email me after our interview if you'd like to get a summary at the end of the study."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.19046796544581, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I agree to take part in this study."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Excellent. And then there's just two other things here. If you'd like to receive a copy of the research findings. You can either tell me that. Now, or you can email me after our interview if you'd like to get a summary at the end of the study."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's great. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. So I can send those to your email address that we corresponded on once I finish my dissertation, so towards the end of August, you can expect to see that. Yeah, um, and if you'd like to receive a hard copy of the study documents I can mail you those."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 7.989408850495344, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Excellent. And then there's just two other things here. If you'd like to receive a copy of the research findings. You can either tell me that. Now, or you can email me after our interview if you'd like to get a summary at the end of the study."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's great. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. So I can send those to your email address that we corresponded on once I finish my dissertation, so towards the end of August, you can expect to see that. Yeah, um, and if you'd like to receive a hard copy of the study documents I can mail you those."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, don't worry. Soft copies of things is fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, perfect.\n\nUm, so that's out of the way we can move on to some of the questions here. So can you tell me a little bit about your child. Like, how old are they? You said he, right?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.543787611661494, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's great. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. So I can send those to your email address that we corresponded on once I finish my dissertation, so towards the end of August, you can expect to see that. Yeah, um, and if you'd like to receive a hard copy of the study documents I can mail you those."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, don't worry. Soft copies of things is fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, perfect.\n\nUm, so that's out of the way we can move on to some of the questions here. So can you tell me a little bit about your child. Like, how old are they? You said he, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, he’s [Child]. He's coming up to two and a half in two weeks. He was born in January 2018. He's obviously currently mainly at home, he's back at nursery two days a week now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. How is he doing at home? or maybe the better question is, how are you doing with having him at home?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.048652901846104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, don't worry. Soft copies of things is fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, perfect.\n\nUm, so that's out of the way we can move on to some of the questions here. So can you tell me a little bit about your child. Like, how old are they? You said he, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, he’s [Child]. He's coming up to two and a half in two weeks. He was born in January 2018. He's obviously currently mainly at home, he's back at nursery two days a week now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. How is he doing at home? or maybe the better question is, how are you doing with having him at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, you know, it took a few weeks to, to shake down into a routine. I've been splitting childcare with my husband, he's also working from home. So it's taken a while to get used to. But we were all fine. And I think the university has been pretty good in terms accomodating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, its nice to hear that."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.60961433538456, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, he’s [Child]. He's coming up to two and a half in two weeks. He was born in January 2018. He's obviously currently mainly at home, he's back at nursery two days a week now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. How is he doing at home? or maybe the better question is, how are you doing with having him at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, you know, it took a few weeks to, to shake down into a routine. I've been splitting childcare with my husband, he's also working from home. So it's taken a while to get used to. But we were all fine. And I think the university has been pretty good in terms accomodating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, its nice to hear that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then obviously He's back in nursery two days, which he's loving. But coming back very tired. So that's changed the dynamic a bit again. But no, it's been okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I'm sure it's nice to have him back at nursery, just so that he can see some other faces and interact with some other people."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.232904817093956, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, you know, it took a few weeks to, to shake down into a routine. I've been splitting childcare with my husband, he's also working from home. So it's taken a while to get used to. But we were all fine. And I think the university has been pretty good in terms accomodating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, its nice to hear that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then obviously He's back in nursery two days, which he's loving. But coming back very tired. So that's changed the dynamic a bit again. But no, it's been okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I'm sure it's nice to have him back at nursery, just so that he can see some other faces and interact with some other people."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, he loves other children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Um, so he's your only child. Is that right? yeah."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.925449796771062, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then obviously He's back in nursery two days, which he's loving. But coming back very tired. So that's changed the dynamic a bit again. But no, it's been okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I'm sure it's nice to have him back at nursery, just so that he can see some other faces and interact with some other people."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, he loves other children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Um, so he's your only child. Is that right? yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Um, so, and what's his name again?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.694944218634513, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, he loves other children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Um, so he's your only child. Is that right? yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Um, so, and what's his name again?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Child]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Child], right sorry I know you said that."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.549938020705014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Um, so, and what's his name again?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Child]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Child], right sorry I know you said that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thats okay, don't worry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me a little bit about what you know about the flu? Just sort of your first impressions when you hear the word flu?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.38882002300557, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Child]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Child], right sorry I know you said that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thats okay, don't worry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me a little bit about what you know about the flu? Just sort of your first impressions when you hear the word flu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hmm. Um, I guess. I mean, I've had the flu, maybe twice in my life as a teenager and as a fresher. Both times were horrendous not, not something I would ever wish on anyone and I know that it can be more dangerous that folder people pregnant women, children. I used to get given a flu vaccine when I worked for a private company. They used to pay for staff to have them. And I've always thought that was a really good idea because it's just an unpleasant illness. It's preventable obviously. I guess the vaccine depends on whether they've identified the most virulent strain that year. And there are other strains and things going around. So it's not foolproof. But yeah, just what I know about it is that flu is pretty contagious, pretty unpleasant illness I guess that affects people globally."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Can you tell me what sort of like, if [Child] was coming down with the flu, what symptoms would you expect to see him developing? What things would tip you off that he was coming down with flu?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 9.320911136672855, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thats okay, don't worry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me a little bit about what you know about the flu? Just sort of your first impressions when you hear the word flu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hmm. Um, I guess. I mean, I've had the flu, maybe twice in my life as a teenager and as a fresher. Both times were horrendous not, not something I would ever wish on anyone and I know that it can be more dangerous that folder people pregnant women, children. I used to get given a flu vaccine when I worked for a private company. They used to pay for staff to have them. And I've always thought that was a really good idea because it's just an unpleasant illness. It's preventable obviously. I guess the vaccine depends on whether they've identified the most virulent strain that year. And there are other strains and things going around. So it's not foolproof. But yeah, just what I know about it is that flu is pretty contagious, pretty unpleasant illness I guess that affects people globally."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Can you tell me what sort of like, if [Child] was coming down with the flu, what symptoms would you expect to see him developing? What things would tip you off that he was coming down with flu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A high temperature. Obviously he's, if he's quite young child so crying, very sort of flushed... what else would I expect? Maybe, maybe sort of clammy, sweaty, not sleeping, very clingy, off his food. I mean, so many childhood diseases start with those symptoms but those, those are the, what I would expect to see."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Is it something you think, like does it come on really fast, or is it something that is, you know, kind of a slower, like most childhood illnesses like you sort of see it over a few days?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.038161897126981, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A high temperature. Obviously he's, if he's quite young child so crying, very sort of flushed... what else would I expect? Maybe, maybe sort of clammy, sweaty, not sleeping, very clingy, off his food. I mean, so many childhood diseases start with those symptoms but those, those are the, what I would expect to see."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Is it something you think, like does it come on really fast, or is it something that is, you know, kind of a slower, like most childhood illnesses like you sort of see it over a few days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I'm not. I hadn't thought about that. I guess I would consider it something that came on over, say, one to two days. I wouldn't think of it as being a really slow burner. I wouldn't think of something appearing overnight.But I might be wrong about that. I think you'd get that sense of them starting to be a bit on well a bit wingey and then get that temperature. Maybe going floppy if it got really bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, yeah. With with children, his age, I think so much of it is about you know, kind of reading what you can see, because of course you know that they cant tell you. You know, I've got a headache. I've got this. I've got that. So it's a lot of it. I think comes down to just what you see happening."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you worry about [Child] getting the flu? Is that something you know if you heard, kind of, if you knew that [Child] was going to get the flu. Is that something that worry you, or is it something you know, of course you don't want it to happen. But would it be concerning or something that you wouldn't be too worried about?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 7.038807951725317, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, he turned two in January. So I don't know. He just missed the cutoff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So can you explain to me what you think, you sort of already did, but can you explain what you think getting sick with the flu is like for kids in terms of, I guess, would you think that the symptoms are any different between adults and children, how long would you expect them to be ill for, you know, that kind of thing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I guess I don't, I guess, I don't know, I guess when I had flu. I was sick for about... It was quicker than a cold, so five days? For five days. I guess with children. I guess it would be quick. I guess it would be sort of two, three days, really. I imagine it would peak quickly. But again, that is complete speculation and having not seen a child with the flu and not actually looked into it as much as I possibly could. You're making me think I need to research this a bit more. You know, and I imagine it would be very confusing for them. And I imagine it would progress quickly in children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, no., don't worry about it. Part of what I'm doing is just trying to learn, you know, kind of, how much parents know about the flu. And if you don't, you know, if you're not confident in what you know that's that's interesting as well. So, you know, no worries about that at all. Okay. Um, so I think you actually just said. So you don't know anyone whose child has gotten sick with the flu. Is that right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, no, I don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if you want to learn more about a sickness, like the flu, you know, anything from symptoms to who is at risk, just kind of anything about the flu, where would you go to get that information?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.9861826564510086, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, no, I don't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if you want to learn more about a sickness, like the flu, you know, anything from symptoms to who is at risk, just kind of anything about the flu, where would you go to get that information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I generally just go to the Internet and the NHS website. I find really, it's really helpful. It's quite a balanced View. I mean, if I guess if I put something into Google NHS comes up quite high and then people like the Mayo Clinic come up as well. And I always think it's interesting to see a different point of view, from different countries because you get, you know, a slightly different take on it and different um... I think, take that I take into account that the NHS is sometimes very... um, I'm not sure what the word is. Not modest but quite... is very kind of Restrained sometimes in some of its advice. So I find it interesting to kind of get get other advice from, from what I see as reputable sources, but it will be medical websites."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So you said Mayo Clinic. Are there any others that come to mind or is it just sort of, you know, you kind of make a decision as your going?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's not and sometimes they're sort of, maybe not for the flu, but for other things I've looked at before kind of specialist charities websites, I think, a really useful source of information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, sure. Um, have you ever talked to your child's GP or another medical professional about the flu."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.5402029516122315, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I generally just go to the Internet and the NHS website. I find really, it's really helpful. It's quite a balanced View. I mean, if I guess if I put something into Google NHS comes up quite high and then people like the Mayo Clinic come up as well. And I always think it's interesting to see a different point of view, from different countries because you get, you know, a slightly different take on it and different um... I think, take that I take into account that the NHS is sometimes very... um, I'm not sure what the word is. Not modest but quite... is very kind of Restrained sometimes in some of its advice. So I find it interesting to kind of get get other advice from, from what I see as reputable sources, but it will be medical websites."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So you said Mayo Clinic. Are there any others that come to mind or is it just sort of, you know, you kind of make a decision as your going?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's not and sometimes they're sort of, maybe not for the flu, but for other things I've looked at before kind of specialist charities websites, I think, a really useful source of information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, sure. Um, have you ever talked to your child's GP or another medical professional about the flu."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that because you haven't had any reason to or you know--"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.155781057346924, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's not and sometimes they're sort of, maybe not for the flu, but for other things I've looked at before kind of specialist charities websites, I think, a really useful source of information."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, sure. Um, have you ever talked to your child's GP or another medical professional about the flu."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that because you haven't had any reason to or you know--"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I've never suspected of them have enough having the flu. It's not something that either my partner or I've had since having him. And I just know that he was too young to receive the vaccine. I think had we gotten the vaccine and maybe looked into it a bit more Id've discussed it with the GP. But, you know, in general, I know we'll talk about vaccines, I'm sure, but that but that's sort of doesn't concern me, giving him a vaccine. So no, it's not something we've discussed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, yeah, so you've sort of led me into my next my next questions here. What do you think the benefits are of having your child get the flu vaccine?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.839756730385471, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that because you haven't had any reason to or you know--"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I've never suspected of them have enough having the flu. It's not something that either my partner or I've had since having him. And I just know that he was too young to receive the vaccine. I think had we gotten the vaccine and maybe looked into it a bit more Id've discussed it with the GP. But, you know, in general, I know we'll talk about vaccines, I'm sure, but that but that's sort of doesn't concern me, giving him a vaccine. So no, it's not something we've discussed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, yeah, so you've sort of led me into my next my next questions here. What do you think the benefits are of having your child get the flu vaccine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'd say that in my mind that they are much less likely to get flu is major benefits. And, and also much less likely to spread Flu within the community and it's sort of protective against, you know, for other people in the community as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So do you think that, I'm curious about that sort of protective benefit, you know, protecting the community as well as your child. Do you think that's something that you would have thought about before, sort of the coronavirus started going around? Because there's been so much emphasis put on, you know, everybody having an obligation to protect the community. Is that something you had thought about before this or is it something that's come to your attention after the fact?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.599729700428301, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I've never suspected of them have enough having the flu. It's not something that either my partner or I've had since having him. And I just know that he was too young to receive the vaccine. I think had we gotten the vaccine and maybe looked into it a bit more Id've discussed it with the GP. But, you know, in general, I know we'll talk about vaccines, I'm sure, but that but that's sort of doesn't concern me, giving him a vaccine. So no, it's not something we've discussed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, yeah, so you've sort of led me into my next my next questions here. What do you think the benefits are of having your child get the flu vaccine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'd say that in my mind that they are much less likely to get flu is major benefits. And, and also much less likely to spread Flu within the community and it's sort of protective against, you know, for other people in the community as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So do you think that, I'm curious about that sort of protective benefit, you know, protecting the community as well as your child. Do you think that's something that you would have thought about before, sort of the coronavirus started going around? Because there's been so much emphasis put on, you know, everybody having an obligation to protect the community. Is that something you had thought about before this or is it something that's come to your attention after the fact?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, its an interesting question really. I think it would be something I thought about before mainly related to measles outbreaks. I know that there were, there are certain parts of the country where the vaccine uptake is very low, certain parts of the you know, the world where vaccine uptake is is low. And in those places they've had quite big outbreaks of measles and so I guess it would be related to them. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's interesting. So it's it's seeing that vaccinating for measles has an important community protecting effect that has sort of transfered to you feeling that the flu vaccine also has that same effect."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.444144111587, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'd say that in my mind that they are much less likely to get flu is major benefits. And, and also much less likely to spread Flu within the community and it's sort of protective against, you know, for other people in the community as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So do you think that, I'm curious about that sort of protective benefit, you know, protecting the community as well as your child. Do you think that's something that you would have thought about before, sort of the coronavirus started going around? Because there's been so much emphasis put on, you know, everybody having an obligation to protect the community. Is that something you had thought about before this or is it something that's come to your attention after the fact?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, its an interesting question really. I think it would be something I thought about before mainly related to measles outbreaks. I know that there were, there are certain parts of the country where the vaccine uptake is very low, certain parts of the you know, the world where vaccine uptake is is low. And in those places they've had quite big outbreaks of measles and so I guess it would be related to them. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's interesting. So it's it's seeing that vaccinating for measles has an important community protecting effect that has sort of transfered to you feeling that the flu vaccine also has that same effect."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I've got no scientific evidence for that, actually, but that's, that's how I feel about vaccines in general, I guess I feel like that's, that's it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. Um, so what do you think the downsides are of having your child get the flu vaccine and downsides can be? You know, not just side effects, but you know like inconvenience would be a downside, cost would be a downside. You know, kind of, kind of any any downsides that you can think of."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7666075828329, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I guess I don't know what the policy is in the US. I don't know how it differs. I don't know. Or, you know, Australia, or whatever. I don't know whether the drug used is the same, I don't know whether they even vaccination. It's the same types of flu, whether any of that. So I just feel like it's a more specific solution in the, you know, I feel like flu is a general illnesses, the same all over the world, different strains, obviously. Um, but the vaccine is you know something specifically the NHS is paid for and will be distributing and therefore it's always you know them I would go to for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, so it's, it sounds like what you're saying is it's less about a fear of inaccurate information and more just, you don't, it's not relevant. Information coming out of other countries just aren't relevant to you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So have you ever talked to your GP, or like any medical professional, maybe it's GP or a nurse or anybody about the flu vaccine in particular?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I've had the flu vaccine several times and never queried it. It's just been like, well, this is a vaccine, I'll have it. I don't personally, I've never had an any, but I've had friends who've had negative side effects and reactions against vaccines. I've been very fortunate I haven't had any to anything I've taken or anything I've had vaccine wise, no. So no, I haven't had any conversations with them there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, sure. Um, so you mentioned that [Child] was not able to have the flu vaccine this year, right?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.185119536481, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So have you ever talked to your GP, or like any medical professional, maybe it's GP or a nurse or anybody about the flu vaccine in particular?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I've had the flu vaccine several times and never queried it. It's just been like, well, this is a vaccine, I'll have it. I don't personally, I've never had an any, but I've had friends who've had negative side effects and reactions against vaccines. I've been very fortunate I haven't had any to anything I've taken or anything I've had vaccine wise, no. So no, I haven't had any conversations with them there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, sure. Um, so you mentioned that [Child] was not able to have the flu vaccine this year, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So how did you find out that he was not eligible. Did you try to get the vaccine. Can you speak to that a little?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4279105960900003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I've had the flu vaccine several times and never queried it. It's just been like, well, this is a vaccine, I'll have it. I don't personally, I've never had an any, but I've had friends who've had negative side effects and reactions against vaccines. I've been very fortunate I haven't had any to anything I've taken or anything I've had vaccine wise, no. So no, I haven't had any conversations with them there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, sure. Um, so you mentioned that [Child] was not able to have the flu vaccine this year, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So how did you find out that he was not eligible. Did you try to get the vaccine. Can you speak to that a little?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, so I looked up. I remember thinking, \"Oh, is that I think that children have? I need to look that up.\" I'm thinking he looks like he's in the ineligible bit and I have a support group of NCT. Do you know about the NCT, Natural Childbirth Trust?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm not familiar, no."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6976784401000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So how did you find out that he was not eligible. Did you try to get the vaccine. Can you speak to that a little?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, so I looked up. I remember thinking, \"Oh, is that I think that children have? I need to look that up.\" I'm thinking he looks like he's in the ineligible bit and I have a support group of NCT. Do you know about the NCT, Natural Childbirth Trust?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm not familiar, no."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they're are national charity and they run antenatal classes for parents to be all over the country. They're a charity, you pay for the course and it's extremely popular course preparing you for childbirth, but generally you're sort of buying friends and a support network for when you have the baby. I have a close group of those friends, of six of us on on WhatsApp. So I guess I go to my peers. I remember there was a discussion on there about the flu vaccine because somebody was considering going to private for the flu vaccine. And I think that's what prompted me as well to look it up and just see whether I, you know, thought we needed to go down that route or it would just leave it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Was that someone, can you remember, is that someone whose child was below the eligibility age?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.997420489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, so I looked up. I remember thinking, \"Oh, is that I think that children have? I need to look that up.\" I'm thinking he looks like he's in the ineligible bit and I have a support group of NCT. Do you know about the NCT, Natural Childbirth Trust?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm not familiar, no."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they're are national charity and they run antenatal classes for parents to be all over the country. They're a charity, you pay for the course and it's extremely popular course preparing you for childbirth, but generally you're sort of buying friends and a support network for when you have the baby. I have a close group of those friends, of six of us on on WhatsApp. So I guess I go to my peers. I remember there was a discussion on there about the flu vaccine because somebody was considering going to private for the flu vaccine. And I think that's what prompted me as well to look it up and just see whether I, you know, thought we needed to go down that route or it would just leave it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Was that someone, can you remember, is that someone whose child was below the eligibility age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they're all the same age. They're all born around January 2018."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is that something that you considered going with a private option for? Or was it when you saw that it wasn't recommended by the NHS that you just thought, \"No, I'm not gonna bother with that\"?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.33046721, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they're are national charity and they run antenatal classes for parents to be all over the country. They're a charity, you pay for the course and it's extremely popular course preparing you for childbirth, but generally you're sort of buying friends and a support network for when you have the baby. I have a close group of those friends, of six of us on on WhatsApp. So I guess I go to my peers. I remember there was a discussion on there about the flu vaccine because somebody was considering going to private for the flu vaccine. And I think that's what prompted me as well to look it up and just see whether I, you know, thought we needed to go down that route or it would just leave it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Was that someone, can you remember, is that someone whose child was below the eligibility age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they're all the same age. They're all born around January 2018."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is that something that you considered going with a private option for? Or was it when you saw that it wasn't recommended by the NHS that you just thought, \"No, I'm not gonna bother with that\"?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's basically, I think I vaguely entertained the idea and then thought they would, if it was really dangerous for his age group. If I thought he was at really a mortal danger risk than I would expect the NHS to have that covered off, and they dont. I didn't, so I guess I trust it, them, and I did look into it and decided it wasn't, it wasn't worth it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. Um, but you had said earlier on that you did want [Child] to have it and that you were, were frustrated by that. So would you say it was really important to you that he would have it this year, or was it something that you know, like. Can you speak to a little bit? Was it something you were upset about when you learned that he wasn't eligible or was it something that was more just like \"oh okay if that's what they said.\""}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh definitely, yeah. I definitely worry more in general for all sort of those infectious diseases. You know, he picks up cold really easily like any kid of his age and whenever he gets a cold, he gets a secondary ear infection. So for me, it's sort of unpleasant long process, getting an infection out of him. And so yeah I really, I'd really, that's been one of the upsides of having him at home, he's had no ear infections at all from between February and now. So certainly something I definitely, I don't worry about it, but I'm much more aware of the fact that he's much more likely to get poorly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it sounds like that's would be another sort of benefit of vaccination is that, you know, of course, the primary interest is that he's healthy and he's safe but the sort of secondary benefit is as a parent, you don't have to kind of deal with having a sick child in the house for weeks at a time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah. And you don't him to be, you know he doesn't understand. It's awful for them when they're sick and its awful for the parents. Nobody gets any sleep and it's really worrying. So anything you can do to avoid that kind of pain. It's yeah, I think it's a benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. Makes sense to me. Um, so I do have just a couple other questions, sort of about vaccine in general and sort of your thoughts around that. So has [Child] had the other sort of routine childhood vaccinations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah he's had all of those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, and was that something. Can you tell me a little bit about how you decided he should be vaccinated for those or do you feel like it was a decision at all? You know, can you speak to that?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah. And you don't him to be, you know he doesn't understand. It's awful for them when they're sick and its awful for the parents. Nobody gets any sleep and it's really worrying. So anything you can do to avoid that kind of pain. It's yeah, I think it's a benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. Makes sense to me. Um, so I do have just a couple other questions, sort of about vaccine in general and sort of your thoughts around that. So has [Child] had the other sort of routine childhood vaccinations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah he's had all of those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, and was that something. Can you tell me a little bit about how you decided he should be vaccinated for those or do you feel like it was a decision at all? You know, can you speak to that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not a decision. I mean, for us it was just absolute he's having vaccinations. It was never, it was never a conversation. It was never a yes or no, it was just this is his vaccination schedule. My husband's not medically trained, but he's a medicinal chemistry. I'm not a scientist but you know I was vaccinated as a child.I think its one of the great, you know, wonders of the modern world. It would be stupid to turn it down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah sure, I can completely understand that. So it was, I just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly, it was just because, you know, they're available you trust the science and kind of the medical institutions."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah he's had all of those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, and was that something. Can you tell me a little bit about how you decided he should be vaccinated for those or do you feel like it was a decision at all? You know, can you speak to that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not a decision. I mean, for us it was just absolute he's having vaccinations. It was never, it was never a conversation. It was never a yes or no, it was just this is his vaccination schedule. My husband's not medically trained, but he's a medicinal chemistry. I'm not a scientist but you know I was vaccinated as a child.I think its one of the great, you know, wonders of the modern world. It would be stupid to turn it down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah sure, I can completely understand that. So it was, I just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly, it was just because, you know, they're available you trust the science and kind of the medical institutions."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, and I don't see the downside. So even if something is less effective than maybe it's advertised to be, or should be, or if something. I don't know, if the evidence, if it's seen as an unnecessary actually if you look into it and you realize that young children aren't at that much risk from certain diseases and it's sort of an enormous and unnecessary injection that's for other people to decide for me. There's no downside of having it. So that's, yeah. I guess that's how I feel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And you mentioned earlier to that your thinking was, like, even if it's an unnecessary injection. It's such a quick, you know, thing, and he's not going to remember it anyway."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not a decision. I mean, for us it was just absolute he's having vaccinations. It was never, it was never a conversation. It was never a yes or no, it was just this is his vaccination schedule. My husband's not medically trained, but he's a medicinal chemistry. I'm not a scientist but you know I was vaccinated as a child.I think its one of the great, you know, wonders of the modern world. It would be stupid to turn it down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah sure, I can completely understand that. So it was, I just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly, it was just because, you know, they're available you trust the science and kind of the medical institutions."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, and I don't see the downside. So even if something is less effective than maybe it's advertised to be, or should be, or if something. I don't know, if the evidence, if it's seen as an unnecessary actually if you look into it and you realize that young children aren't at that much risk from certain diseases and it's sort of an enormous and unnecessary injection that's for other people to decide for me. There's no downside of having it. So that's, yeah. I guess that's how I feel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And you mentioned earlier to that your thinking was, like, even if it's an unnecessary injection. It's such a quick, you know, thing, and he's not going to remember it anyway."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you personally had the flu vaccine this year."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, and I don't see the downside. So even if something is less effective than maybe it's advertised to be, or should be, or if something. I don't know, if the evidence, if it's seen as an unnecessary actually if you look into it and you realize that young children aren't at that much risk from certain diseases and it's sort of an enormous and unnecessary injection that's for other people to decide for me. There's no downside of having it. So that's, yeah. I guess that's how I feel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And you mentioned earlier to that your thinking was, like, even if it's an unnecessary injection. It's such a quick, you know, thing, and he's not going to remember it anyway."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you personally had the flu vaccine this year."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that, do you think that's just because it wasn't available or was that a decision kind of that you made."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you personally had the flu vaccine this year."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that, do you think that's just because it wasn't available or was that a decision kind of that you made."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn't on the list for this winter so it wasn't, it wasn't a consideration. I don't consider myself to be in a high risk group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. Yeah, absolutely."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that, do you think that's just because it wasn't available or was that a decision kind of that you made."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn't on the list for this winter so it wasn't, it wasn't a consideration. I don't consider myself to be in a high risk group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. Yeah, absolutely."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had it when I was pregnant with him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so, yeah. So when you were pregnant with them and you were part of a high risk group. Was that something you got through the GP?"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn't on the list for this winter so it wasn't, it wasn't a consideration. I don't consider myself to be in a high risk group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. Yeah, absolutely."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had it when I was pregnant with him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so, yeah. So when you were pregnant with them and you were part of a high risk group. Was that something you got through the GP?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through the GP yeah. Because it was available. I wouldn't pay. As I said, I used to take advantage of it when my private employer paid for it. But it's not something I would pay for for myself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, you just don't see sort of the the sort of the cost in that situation--"}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had it when I was pregnant with him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so, yeah. So when you were pregnant with them and you were part of a high risk group. Was that something you got through the GP?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through the GP yeah. Because it was available. I wouldn't pay. As I said, I used to take advantage of it when my private employer paid for it. But it's not something I would pay for for myself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, you just don't see sort of the the sort of the cost in that situation--"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know I don't even know how much it would cost. Its a funny one because you think well I cared enough to give it a bit done when the nurse came round but it was because it was just there and available and didn't require any administration, didn't require any money. And but then it's, then that thinking about as a next step, I don't consider it a high risk enough illness me at this stage of life that I would, I would feel like I needed to pay for it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, well, there's an I think there's a lot of other costs there to, you know, maybe not monetary costs, but you have to take the time out of your day to figure out where to go. You have to actually go there, you need to kind of go through the whole process and pay the money. So I think it makes sense that if you're not worried about having flu yourself that the costs of that, you know, kind of all the costs would outweigh the benefit that you would get from the vaccine."}]} {"block_id": "flu-vaccination-interviews-00007:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through the GP yeah. Because it was available. I wouldn't pay. As I said, I used to take advantage of it when my private employer paid for it. But it's not something I would pay for for myself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, you just don't see sort of the the sort of the cost in that situation--"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know I don't even know how much it would cost. Its a funny one because you think well I cared enough to give it a bit done when the nurse came round but it was because it was just there and available and didn't require any administration, didn't require any money. And but then it's, then that thinking about as a next step, I don't consider it a high risk enough illness me at this stage of life that I would, I would feel like I needed to pay for it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, well, there's an I think there's a lot of other costs there to, you know, maybe not monetary costs, but you have to take the time out of your day to figure out where to go. You have to actually go there, you need to kind of go through the whole process and pay the money. So I think it makes sense that if you're not worried about having flu yourself that the costs of that, you know, kind of all the costs would outweigh the benefit that you would get from the vaccine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah absolutely.."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that makes sense to me. So that is sort of the last of my questions. So what I just like to kind of close on. Is there anything else that you'd like to say about the flu or the flu vaccine or vaccination in general, anything that I didn't ask about that you'd like to speak to?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.452710615352745, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They include bananas, tomatoes, rice, etc.\n\nMost of the changes in Maasai life have been caused by severe sunshine and aridity which have led to deaths of cows and low production of milk, that's why we have decided to adapt new kinds of food.\n\nAt our young ages, our grandparents also used to eat honey."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has aridity caused these changes more especially little production of foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aridity has dried pasture and water which are mainly depended on livestock for survival, so many livestock have died. Crop production has also been affected because lack of rainfall has accelerated low production of food crops.\n\nAridity has been very severe and abnormal, this has led to shortage of pasture and water which are mainly foods for livestock, thus livestock die.\n\nSome changes have been caused by rapid population increase, some of the grown up people have gone to school and they know many environmental impacts due to aridity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from aridity, rapid population and tribal interaction, what else has caused changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has also caused many changes to the current life. In the past years we did not use cars, bicycles or motorbikes for our movements, instead we moved on foot, but nowadays many people are owning cars, bicycles, motorcycles etc.\n\nClimate change has also caused some changes in normal life, for instance cutting of trees and deforestation in general has led to loss of frola and fauna, as well as leading to shortage of moisture and rainfall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affected the responsibilities of women and men in Kambala village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 6.0585673503919395, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aridity has dried pasture and water which are mainly depended on livestock for survival, so many livestock have died. Crop production has also been affected because lack of rainfall has accelerated low production of food crops.\n\nAridity has been very severe and abnormal, this has led to shortage of pasture and water which are mainly foods for livestock, thus livestock die.\n\nSome changes have been caused by rapid population increase, some of the grown up people have gone to school and they know many environmental impacts due to aridity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from aridity, rapid population and tribal interaction, what else has caused changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Education has also caused many changes to the current life. In the past years we did not use cars, bicycles or motorbikes for our movements, instead we moved on foot, but nowadays many people are owning cars, bicycles, motorcycles etc.\n\nClimate change has also caused some changes in normal life, for instance cutting of trees and deforestation in general has led to loss of frola and fauna, as well as leading to shortage of moisture and rainfall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these changes affected the responsibilities of women and men in Kambala village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There has been life difficulties because most maasai men like to marry more than a single wife, so when cows have decreased in number, then most men cannot be fully responsible to take care of his wives and children\n\nWomen used to milk cows and sell milk to other people, this enabled them to earn some money to sustain the family but nowadays due to these changes, cows have decreased in number thus leading to little production of milk, thus most women are no longer selling milk and earning some money, all domestic responsibilities are carried by the father/man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have mentioned a lot of factors for life changes, now what is he major or first and last factor/reason? These include aridity, rapid increase in human population, education, climate change. What is the first and last factor?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.7760090745579507, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There has been life difficulties because most maasai men like to marry more than a single wife, so when cows have decreased in number, then most men cannot be fully responsible to take care of his wives and children\n\nWomen used to milk cows and sell milk to other people, this enabled them to earn some money to sustain the family but nowadays due to these changes, cows have decreased in number thus leading to little production of milk, thus most women are no longer selling milk and earning some money, all domestic responsibilities are carried by the father/man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have mentioned a lot of factors for life changes, now what is he major or first and last factor/reason? These include aridity, rapid increase in human population, education, climate change. What is the first and last factor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think aridity should be the first factor.\n\nYes aridity should be the first factor for life changes.\n\nThe first factor should be social interaction among tribes.\n\nLet us agree that the first factor is aridity because it badly affects both people and livestock.\n\nThe second factor should be social interaction among tribes.\n\nThe third factor to the current changes is increased population, because the land is fixed but the population on land is increasing tremendously.\n\nThe fourth factor is education. Education has created awareness among many people. People have changed their living standards inducing settlements standards; some have become teachers, church attendants, different leaders at different levels. etc.\n\nThe last factor is climate change. Climate change has led to deforestation, shortage of rainfall and moisture as well as bare land, drying of water sources and eventually aridity.\n\nMost of our water sources such as rivers, dams and wells have dried up because of climate change. The shortage of water has led to deaths of many livestock.\n\nSome crop farmers do burn their farms when clearing their farms, as a result fire spreads to other areas and burns a great part of the land, this also leads to death of livestock because of shortage of pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the second factor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first factor is aridity, the second factor is social and tribal interaction, increased population, education is another factor and the last one is climate change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. Now tell me how food preparation has changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.0844545272866117, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think aridity should be the first factor.\n\nYes aridity should be the first factor for life changes.\n\nThe first factor should be social interaction among tribes.\n\nLet us agree that the first factor is aridity because it badly affects both people and livestock.\n\nThe second factor should be social interaction among tribes.\n\nThe third factor to the current changes is increased population, because the land is fixed but the population on land is increasing tremendously.\n\nThe fourth factor is education. Education has created awareness among many people. People have changed their living standards inducing settlements standards; some have become teachers, church attendants, different leaders at different levels. etc.\n\nThe last factor is climate change. Climate change has led to deforestation, shortage of rainfall and moisture as well as bare land, drying of water sources and eventually aridity.\n\nMost of our water sources such as rivers, dams and wells have dried up because of climate change. The shortage of water has led to deaths of many livestock.\n\nSome crop farmers do burn their farms when clearing their farms, as a result fire spreads to other areas and burns a great part of the land, this also leads to death of livestock because of shortage of pasture."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the second factor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first factor is aridity, the second factor is social and tribal interaction, increased population, education is another factor and the last one is climate change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. Now tell me how food preparation has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some changes in food preparation, for instance those who did not grow crops, they used to buy grains in June when summers season comes in, but for the crop growing society, these had enough food all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me how cooking food styles have changed, for example frying, boiling, burning, etc."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.316060585874013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first factor is aridity, the second factor is social and tribal interaction, increased population, education is another factor and the last one is climate change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. Now tell me how food preparation has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some changes in food preparation, for instance those who did not grow crops, they used to buy grains in June when summers season comes in, but for the crop growing society, these had enough food all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me how cooking food styles have changed, for example frying, boiling, burning, etc."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there is change in food preparation, for instance we used to drink fresh and un-boiled milk, but nowadays we do boil milk. Honey was also taken while its raw but nowadays there is a tendency of boiling. Nowdays most people do prepare their foods by boiling. For instance at our young ages, cracked maize was mixed with honey and people ate it but nowadays cracked maize is mixed with beans and cooked.\n\nThere are great changes in food preparation because most of the people do know how to prepare and cook food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are prices of foods?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.573400650971126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some changes in food preparation, for instance those who did not grow crops, they used to buy grains in June when summers season comes in, but for the crop growing society, these had enough food all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me how cooking food styles have changed, for example frying, boiling, burning, etc."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there is change in food preparation, for instance we used to drink fresh and un-boiled milk, but nowadays we do boil milk. Honey was also taken while its raw but nowadays there is a tendency of boiling. Nowdays most people do prepare their foods by boiling. For instance at our young ages, cracked maize was mixed with honey and people ate it but nowadays cracked maize is mixed with beans and cooked.\n\nThere are great changes in food preparation because most of the people do know how to prepare and cook food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are prices of foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Food prices seem to be low more especially when farmers are selling their crops. We spend much cost to prepare, grow and harvest our crops but we end up selling them at low prices."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does the food price determine the consumption of foods?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.748222945523473, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there is change in food preparation, for instance we used to drink fresh and un-boiled milk, but nowadays we do boil milk. Honey was also taken while its raw but nowadays there is a tendency of boiling. Nowdays most people do prepare their foods by boiling. For instance at our young ages, cracked maize was mixed with honey and people ate it but nowadays cracked maize is mixed with beans and cooked.\n\nThere are great changes in food preparation because most of the people do know how to prepare and cook food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are prices of foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Food prices seem to be low more especially when farmers are selling their crops. We spend much cost to prepare, grow and harvest our crops but we end up selling them at low prices."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does the food price determine the consumption of foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the food price determines the consumption of different foods, for instance in the last year a bucket of maize was sold at 25000-30000 thousands, so many people failed to eat stiff porridge because of maize scarcity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods when eaten by someone, people or his/her friends consider him /her to be poor/at low economic status?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9424699394705256, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Food prices seem to be low more especially when farmers are selling their crops. We spend much cost to prepare, grow and harvest our crops but we end up selling them at low prices."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does the food price determine the consumption of foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the food price determines the consumption of different foods, for instance in the last year a bucket of maize was sold at 25000-30000 thousands, so many people failed to eat stiff porridge because of maize scarcity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods when eaten by someone, people or his/her friends consider him /her to be poor/at low economic status?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These include stiff porridge and sweet potatoes leaves, amaranth leaves, beans, etc. Because many people used to eat meat and other food stuffs\n\nPeople consider you to be poor or of low status when you eat cassava flour or unhulled cracked and cooked maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about relish?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1582999327450283, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the food price determines the consumption of different foods, for instance in the last year a bucket of maize was sold at 25000-30000 thousands, so many people failed to eat stiff porridge because of maize scarcity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods when eaten by someone, people or his/her friends consider him /her to be poor/at low economic status?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These include stiff porridge and sweet potatoes leaves, amaranth leaves, beans, etc. Because many people used to eat meat and other food stuffs\n\nPeople consider you to be poor or of low status when you eat cassava flour or unhulled cracked and cooked maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about relish?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some people do stir up maize flour and prepare porridge; they mix it with salt and eat it with stiff porridge.\n\nIn Maasai this is called \"ekikorori', (this is same as kididio) it maize flour stirred up in water mixed with little salt and boiled as porridge, it is taken together with stiff porridge.\n\nWe Maasai people do not eat slippery vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods when eaten by someone, people or his/her friends consider him /her to be rich/at high economic status?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.398111036383365, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These include stiff porridge and sweet potatoes leaves, amaranth leaves, beans, etc. Because many people used to eat meat and other food stuffs\n\nPeople consider you to be poor or of low status when you eat cassava flour or unhulled cracked and cooked maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about relish?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some people do stir up maize flour and prepare porridge; they mix it with salt and eat it with stiff porridge.\n\nIn Maasai this is called \"ekikorori', (this is same as kididio) it maize flour stirred up in water mixed with little salt and boiled as porridge, it is taken together with stiff porridge.\n\nWe Maasai people do not eat slippery vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods when eaten by someone, people or his/her friends consider him /her to be rich/at high economic status?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Meat\n\nMeat, beer, soda, milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At what moments do meat and beer are eaten?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6645678182037384, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some people do stir up maize flour and prepare porridge; they mix it with salt and eat it with stiff porridge.\n\nIn Maasai this is called \"ekikorori', (this is same as kididio) it maize flour stirred up in water mixed with little salt and boiled as porridge, it is taken together with stiff porridge.\n\nWe Maasai people do not eat slippery vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods when eaten by someone, people or his/her friends consider him /her to be rich/at high economic status?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Meat\n\nMeat, beer, soda, milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At what moments do meat and beer are eaten?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These are mostly eaten at market places\n\nMeat and beer are also eaten during different celebrations.\n\nOther foods include meat, rice; milk\n\nMilk tea is also considered to be taken by rich people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has aridity contributed to these changes in diet and nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.960630909115265, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Meat\n\nMeat, beer, soda, milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At what moments do meat and beer are eaten?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These are mostly eaten at market places\n\nMeat and beer are also eaten during different celebrations.\n\nOther foods include meat, rice; milk\n\nMilk tea is also considered to be taken by rich people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has aridity contributed to these changes in diet and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aridity has contributed to changes in diet because it has led to shortage of rainfall and low production of food crops, so the food prices increased, for instance a bucket of maize was sold up to 28000 thousands, and some people have started having two or single meal per day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.289589899016961, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These are mostly eaten at market places\n\nMeat and beer are also eaten during different celebrations.\n\nOther foods include meat, rice; milk\n\nMilk tea is also considered to be taken by rich people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has aridity contributed to these changes in diet and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aridity has contributed to changes in diet because it has led to shortage of rainfall and low production of food crops, so the food prices increased, for instance a bucket of maize was sold up to 28000 thousands, and some people have started having two or single meal per day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is very important because it is one of our staple foods. Milk also acts as a poison diluting agent.\n\nMilk is very important because it strengthen bodies more especially for the case of sick people.\n\nMilk is also important because it is a main food and nutritious food for the delivered baby.\n\nMilk is also a business commodity since it is sold by women and earned money is used to sustain the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Compare the importance of milk when you were still young and the current time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5439887766855125, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aridity has contributed to changes in diet because it has led to shortage of rainfall and low production of food crops, so the food prices increased, for instance a bucket of maize was sold up to 28000 thousands, and some people have started having two or single meal per day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is very important because it is one of our staple foods. Milk also acts as a poison diluting agent.\n\nMilk is very important because it strengthen bodies more especially for the case of sick people.\n\nMilk is also important because it is a main food and nutritious food for the delivered baby.\n\nMilk is also a business commodity since it is sold by women and earned money is used to sustain the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Compare the importance of milk when you were still young and the current time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The importance is still the same because we do not feed our kids with normal porridge instead we feed them with milk.\n\nMilk is important for both kids and mature people, if you have not taken milk; your body seems to lack some special nutrients.\n\nWhen we have finished our meals, we have to take at least a single cup of milk so as to improve body health, the kids who always take milk, they always become intelligent."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, you have just little milk in your house. There is a kid and older man. Who will be given that little milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8266541963172362, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is very important because it is one of our staple foods. Milk also acts as a poison diluting agent.\n\nMilk is very important because it strengthen bodies more especially for the case of sick people.\n\nMilk is also important because it is a main food and nutritious food for the delivered baby.\n\nMilk is also a business commodity since it is sold by women and earned money is used to sustain the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Compare the importance of milk when you were still young and the current time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The importance is still the same because we do not feed our kids with normal porridge instead we feed them with milk.\n\nMilk is important for both kids and mature people, if you have not taken milk; your body seems to lack some special nutrients.\n\nWhen we have finished our meals, we have to take at least a single cup of milk so as to improve body health, the kids who always take milk, they always become intelligent."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, you have just little milk in your house. There is a kid and older man. Who will be given that little milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The little milk will be given to the kid because milk builds the growing body organs such as brain. The older men will have to eat other types of food as alternative to milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You claim that milk was very important to children unlike it is nowadays"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.140726884796929, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The importance is still the same because we do not feed our kids with normal porridge instead we feed them with milk.\n\nMilk is important for both kids and mature people, if you have not taken milk; your body seems to lack some special nutrients.\n\nWhen we have finished our meals, we have to take at least a single cup of milk so as to improve body health, the kids who always take milk, they always become intelligent."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, you have just little milk in your house. There is a kid and older man. Who will be given that little milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The little milk will be given to the kid because milk builds the growing body organs such as brain. The older men will have to eat other types of food as alternative to milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You claim that milk was very important to children unlike it is nowadays"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes milk is very important to kids not only in the past years but also nowadays. Moreover the fact is the kids for the past years used to take enough milk and they became very intelligent but nowadays kids who do not take enough milk do not become intelligent enough.\n\nMilk also created body immunity and prevents malnutrition such as kwashiorkor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you produce enough milk or little milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4896965386632544, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The little milk will be given to the kid because milk builds the growing body organs such as brain. The older men will have to eat other types of food as alternative to milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You claim that milk was very important to children unlike it is nowadays"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes milk is very important to kids not only in the past years but also nowadays. Moreover the fact is the kids for the past years used to take enough milk and they became very intelligent but nowadays kids who do not take enough milk do not become intelligent enough.\n\nMilk also created body immunity and prevents malnutrition such as kwashiorkor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you produce enough milk or little milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk which is produced is very little due to the alarming aridity and cow diseases.\n\nWe do not get enough cow milk because of the last year severe aridity, whereby most livestock lacked enough pasture and water, still others died, thousands and thousands of cows died.\n\nI propose he government to help us and give us some new breeds which can produce enough milk regardless of their little number.\n\nWe should get quality cow breeds so as to produce enough milk.\n\nI think milk production quantity depends much on the available pasture and water and other treatments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned aridity, poor cow breeds, what else?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.877440598514727, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes milk is very important to kids not only in the past years but also nowadays. Moreover the fact is the kids for the past years used to take enough milk and they became very intelligent but nowadays kids who do not take enough milk do not become intelligent enough.\n\nMilk also created body immunity and prevents malnutrition such as kwashiorkor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you produce enough milk or little milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk which is produced is very little due to the alarming aridity and cow diseases.\n\nWe do not get enough cow milk because of the last year severe aridity, whereby most livestock lacked enough pasture and water, still others died, thousands and thousands of cows died.\n\nI propose he government to help us and give us some new breeds which can produce enough milk regardless of their little number.\n\nWe should get quality cow breeds so as to produce enough milk.\n\nI think milk production quantity depends much on the available pasture and water and other treatments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned aridity, poor cow breeds, what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We should get enough veterinary services to our livestock, including cattle dips, sprays, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the current situation to the livestock?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.30826733168303, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk which is produced is very little due to the alarming aridity and cow diseases.\n\nWe do not get enough cow milk because of the last year severe aridity, whereby most livestock lacked enough pasture and water, still others died, thousands and thousands of cows died.\n\nI propose he government to help us and give us some new breeds which can produce enough milk regardless of their little number.\n\nWe should get quality cow breeds so as to produce enough milk.\n\nI think milk production quantity depends much on the available pasture and water and other treatments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned aridity, poor cow breeds, what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We should get enough veterinary services to our livestock, including cattle dips, sprays, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the current situation to the livestock?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The current situation is very bad because most people have no livestock, some do beg for maize flour and milk from their neighbors.\n\nAnother factor for little production of milk was poor health to bulls, so they failed to mate with cows and give birth to calves; this is one of the reasons for scarcity of milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, you have mentioned factors for little milk production including aridity, poor and weak bulls, cow diseases and poor cow breeds. What is the major and minor factor?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.786963701870033, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We should get enough veterinary services to our livestock, including cattle dips, sprays, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the current situation to the livestock?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The current situation is very bad because most people have no livestock, some do beg for maize flour and milk from their neighbors.\n\nAnother factor for little production of milk was poor health to bulls, so they failed to mate with cows and give birth to calves; this is one of the reasons for scarcity of milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, you have mentioned factors for little milk production including aridity, poor and weak bulls, cow diseases and poor cow breeds. What is the major and minor factor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aridity should be the first and major factor.\n\nCow diseases and poor veterinary services.\n\nPoor quality cow breeds is another factor.\n\nPoor and weak bulls is another factor"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, how do you use the cow blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.207737446522259, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The current situation is very bad because most people have no livestock, some do beg for maize flour and milk from their neighbors.\n\nAnother factor for little production of milk was poor health to bulls, so they failed to mate with cows and give birth to calves; this is one of the reasons for scarcity of milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, you have mentioned factors for little milk production including aridity, poor and weak bulls, cow diseases and poor cow breeds. What is the major and minor factor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aridity should be the first and major factor.\n\nCow diseases and poor veterinary services.\n\nPoor quality cow breeds is another factor.\n\nPoor and weak bulls is another factor"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, how do you use the cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At our young ages, we used to tap cow blood and place it into the calabash, we mix it with salt and boil it, then we use it as food. It is called 'ngodek' in Maasai vernacular.\n\nInstead of slaughtering the cow, you can use a special arrow to stab a certain blood vessel on the cow and tap blood in your special vessel, then you use as food.\n\nWe also use cow blood to cure a person suffering from malaria, we tap blood from the cow, we mix it with milk and give it to the malaria patient.\n\nCow blood is also used by the anaemic victim, if the kid has shortage of blood, we take cow blood and mix it with milk and give the kid to drink."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do all people use this blood (both pare and Maasai people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.675263829469176, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aridity should be the first and major factor.\n\nCow diseases and poor veterinary services.\n\nPoor quality cow breeds is another factor.\n\nPoor and weak bulls is another factor"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, how do you use the cow blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At our young ages, we used to tap cow blood and place it into the calabash, we mix it with salt and boil it, then we use it as food. It is called 'ngodek' in Maasai vernacular.\n\nInstead of slaughtering the cow, you can use a special arrow to stab a certain blood vessel on the cow and tap blood in your special vessel, then you use as food.\n\nWe also use cow blood to cure a person suffering from malaria, we tap blood from the cow, we mix it with milk and give it to the malaria patient.\n\nCow blood is also used by the anaemic victim, if the kid has shortage of blood, we take cow blood and mix it with milk and give the kid to drink."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do all people use this blood (both pare and Maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we all use it because we are all livestock keepers. In the past years we used to boil it and eat it as food but nowadays we simply use it in case there is sickness victim, meaning that when someone fall sick we give him/her cow blood.\n\nCow blood also acts as first aid, for instance when your wife delivers a baby and loses a lot of blood, then you tap cow blood and give her o drink before taking her to the hospital\n\nWe also drink blood when we are moving with cows from one place to another, when food is finished and no milk, then you will have to tap cow blood and drink it then you continue with your journey."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you drink it fresh?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.194737588299085, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At our young ages, we used to tap cow blood and place it into the calabash, we mix it with salt and boil it, then we use it as food. It is called 'ngodek' in Maasai vernacular.\n\nInstead of slaughtering the cow, you can use a special arrow to stab a certain blood vessel on the cow and tap blood in your special vessel, then you use as food.\n\nWe also use cow blood to cure a person suffering from malaria, we tap blood from the cow, we mix it with milk and give it to the malaria patient.\n\nCow blood is also used by the anaemic victim, if the kid has shortage of blood, we take cow blood and mix it with milk and give the kid to drink."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do all people use this blood (both pare and Maasai people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we all use it because we are all livestock keepers. In the past years we used to boil it and eat it as food but nowadays we simply use it in case there is sickness victim, meaning that when someone fall sick we give him/her cow blood.\n\nCow blood also acts as first aid, for instance when your wife delivers a baby and loses a lot of blood, then you tap cow blood and give her o drink before taking her to the hospital\n\nWe also drink blood when we are moving with cows from one place to another, when food is finished and no milk, then you will have to tap cow blood and drink it then you continue with your journey."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you drink it fresh?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we drink it while it is fresh, when it drops from the cow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent do the current youths use this blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.77193065366565, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we all use it because we are all livestock keepers. In the past years we used to boil it and eat it as food but nowadays we simply use it in case there is sickness victim, meaning that when someone fall sick we give him/her cow blood.\n\nCow blood also acts as first aid, for instance when your wife delivers a baby and loses a lot of blood, then you tap cow blood and give her o drink before taking her to the hospital\n\nWe also drink blood when we are moving with cows from one place to another, when food is finished and no milk, then you will have to tap cow blood and drink it then you continue with your journey."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you drink it fresh?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we drink it while it is fresh, when it drops from the cow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent do the current youths use this blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drinking cow blood among the youths has rapidly decreased because most of them have gone to school\n\nMost youths have attended secondary and college education, so they have decided to abandon some Maasai norms."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the place of the school as far as drinking cow blood is concerned?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.30214517073961, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we drink it while it is fresh, when it drops from the cow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To what extent do the current youths use this blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drinking cow blood among the youths has rapidly decreased because most of them have gone to school\n\nMost youths have attended secondary and college education, so they have decided to abandon some Maasai norms."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the place of the school as far as drinking cow blood is concerned?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The place of school in this case plays a great role, most youths do spend much time at schools and colleges, and they interact with other Swahili people, so they forgot some of their norms and decide to abandon them.\n\nMost of college students do no longer drink raw blood, but very few of them do drink it when they come for holidays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the effects to our society from these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.8912724119329, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drinking cow blood among the youths has rapidly decreased because most of them have gone to school\n\nMost youths have attended secondary and college education, so they have decided to abandon some Maasai norms."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the place of the school as far as drinking cow blood is concerned?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The place of school in this case plays a great role, most youths do spend much time at schools and colleges, and they interact with other Swahili people, so they forgot some of their norms and decide to abandon them.\n\nMost of college students do no longer drink raw blood, but very few of them do drink it when they come for holidays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the effects to our society from these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These changes have affected our society more especially our school and college children have been affected, for instance some of these children do no longer use herbs medicine to cure infections and diseases, still some of them tend to adapt foreign living styles and Swahili styles, they forget about their maasai norms.\n\nSome of them do get starred when they come back and look at our natural foods which we eat, they tend to abandon some of the natural foods among the Maasai, and this is an effect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods are eaten by your children when they are at schools but they do not eat them when they come back home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.545858235481, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The place of school in this case plays a great role, most youths do spend much time at schools and colleges, and they interact with other Swahili people, so they forgot some of their norms and decide to abandon them.\n\nMost of college students do no longer drink raw blood, but very few of them do drink it when they come for holidays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the effects to our society from these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These changes have affected our society more especially our school and college children have been affected, for instance some of these children do no longer use herbs medicine to cure infections and diseases, still some of them tend to adapt foreign living styles and Swahili styles, they forget about their maasai norms.\n\nSome of them do get starred when they come back and look at our natural foods which we eat, they tend to abandon some of the natural foods among the Maasai, and this is an effect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods are eaten by your children when they are at schools but they do not eat them when they come back home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These include chicken meat, fish, eggs, chips, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the effects of these changes to your social and tribal interactions' ?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.16206470609, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These changes have affected our society more especially our school and college children have been affected, for instance some of these children do no longer use herbs medicine to cure infections and diseases, still some of them tend to adapt foreign living styles and Swahili styles, they forget about their maasai norms.\n\nSome of them do get starred when they come back and look at our natural foods which we eat, they tend to abandon some of the natural foods among the Maasai, and this is an effect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which foods are eaten by your children when they are at schools but they do not eat them when they come back home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These include chicken meat, fish, eggs, chips, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the effects of these changes to your social and tribal interactions' ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some effects to our tribal interactions is that we have learned some new things from them and they have learned new things from us, for instance we come together in different celebrations and other events, we share some food items, we marry each other, the pare can marry the maasai and the vice versa is true.\n\nWe also share some land use, for instance some of them do come and cultivate the land in our village and we use their land to graze our animals depending on the available procedures. This has created good relationship.\n\nYes there is good relationship between us and other tribes which are found in this area, this has enabled us to marry each other, for instance white men do marry Africans and Africans marry white men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about conflicts between livestock keepers and crop farmers? How is the situation in this village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.6245163401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These include chicken meat, fish, eggs, chips, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the effects of these changes to your social and tribal interactions' ?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some effects to our tribal interactions is that we have learned some new things from them and they have learned new things from us, for instance we come together in different celebrations and other events, we share some food items, we marry each other, the pare can marry the maasai and the vice versa is true.\n\nWe also share some land use, for instance some of them do come and cultivate the land in our village and we use their land to graze our animals depending on the available procedures. This has created good relationship.\n\nYes there is good relationship between us and other tribes which are found in this area, this has enabled us to marry each other, for instance white men do marry Africans and Africans marry white men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about conflicts between livestock keepers and crop farmers? How is the situation in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Currently conflict status is not bad unlike it was in the few past years when the conflict situation was very worse. The main reason for conflict emergency was village boundaries, Kambala village was surveyed and planned in 1986, but as time passed many people started shifting to Kambala village and the neighboring places, this caused land conflicts because of immigrants from other places and the issue of land use between livestock keepers and crop farmers.\n\nThe other reason for conflicts was due to political propaganda more especially through parliamentary and ward councilor electoral candidates during n general elections. Some politicians do make fake promises to their voters on land use issues, as a result these propaganda causes misunderstandings among the citizens.\n\nCurrently there low conflicts in our area, so I suggest the government to implement and enforce the required laws so as to maintain peace and harmony in our area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What type of conflicts do we always experience in our area?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.138351489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some effects to our tribal interactions is that we have learned some new things from them and they have learned new things from us, for instance we come together in different celebrations and other events, we share some food items, we marry each other, the pare can marry the maasai and the vice versa is true.\n\nWe also share some land use, for instance some of them do come and cultivate the land in our village and we use their land to graze our animals depending on the available procedures. This has created good relationship.\n\nYes there is good relationship between us and other tribes which are found in this area, this has enabled us to marry each other, for instance white men do marry Africans and Africans marry white men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us talk about conflicts between livestock keepers and crop farmers? How is the situation in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Currently conflict status is not bad unlike it was in the few past years when the conflict situation was very worse. The main reason for conflict emergency was village boundaries, Kambala village was surveyed and planned in 1986, but as time passed many people started shifting to Kambala village and the neighboring places, this caused land conflicts because of immigrants from other places and the issue of land use between livestock keepers and crop farmers.\n\nThe other reason for conflicts was due to political propaganda more especially through parliamentary and ward councilor electoral candidates during n general elections. Some politicians do make fake promises to their voters on land use issues, as a result these propaganda causes misunderstandings among the citizens.\n\nCurrently there low conflicts in our area, so I suggest the government to implement and enforce the required laws so as to maintain peace and harmony in our area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What type of conflicts do we always experience in our area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Land conflicts are the leading conflicts in our area.\n\nThe new located boundary just divided the village into half that means they abandon the former boundary which was fixed by the government in 1986. The new boundary did not involve the participation of the people in this area. When the boundary was being located we had the minister and we showed him all the fixed beacons but still they did not follow them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which any other conflicts do happen between the livestock keepers and crop farmers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.48705721, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Currently conflict status is not bad unlike it was in the few past years when the conflict situation was very worse. The main reason for conflict emergency was village boundaries, Kambala village was surveyed and planned in 1986, but as time passed many people started shifting to Kambala village and the neighboring places, this caused land conflicts because of immigrants from other places and the issue of land use between livestock keepers and crop farmers.\n\nThe other reason for conflicts was due to political propaganda more especially through parliamentary and ward councilor electoral candidates during n general elections. Some politicians do make fake promises to their voters on land use issues, as a result these propaganda causes misunderstandings among the citizens.\n\nCurrently there low conflicts in our area, so I suggest the government to implement and enforce the required laws so as to maintain peace and harmony in our area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What type of conflicts do we always experience in our area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Land conflicts are the leading conflicts in our area.\n\nThe new located boundary just divided the village into half that means they abandon the former boundary which was fixed by the government in 1986. The new boundary did not involve the participation of the people in this area. When the boundary was being located we had the minister and we showed him all the fixed beacons but still they did not follow them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which any other conflicts do happen between the livestock keepers and crop farmers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some few years there emerged a group of people known as 'mwano', there is river valley which separates the Kambala village and the neighboring village, ha kambala village is for livestock keepers while the opposite village is for the crop farmers, so this group used to invade our livestock and steal and slaughter our cows.\n\nCurrently the conflicts have been settled and become dormant due to the available government. Only that if it happens some livestock invade and consume crops in the farms, then the farm owner and livestock owner do sit together and settle the situation by compensating the farm owner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When do we always experience such conflicts?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7633969, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Land conflicts are the leading conflicts in our area.\n\nThe new located boundary just divided the village into half that means they abandon the former boundary which was fixed by the government in 1986. The new boundary did not involve the participation of the people in this area. When the boundary was being located we had the minister and we showed him all the fixed beacons but still they did not follow them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which any other conflicts do happen between the livestock keepers and crop farmers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some few years there emerged a group of people known as 'mwano', there is river valley which separates the Kambala village and the neighboring village, ha kambala village is for livestock keepers while the opposite village is for the crop farmers, so this group used to invade our livestock and steal and slaughter our cows.\n\nCurrently the conflicts have been settled and become dormant due to the available government. Only that if it happens some livestock invade and consume crops in the farms, then the farm owner and livestock owner do sit together and settle the situation by compensating the farm owner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When do we always experience such conflicts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always experience such conflicts around August to December when it starts raining."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these conflicts affected the two sides that is the livestock keepers and crop farmers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.070441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some few years there emerged a group of people known as 'mwano', there is river valley which separates the Kambala village and the neighboring village, ha kambala village is for livestock keepers while the opposite village is for the crop farmers, so this group used to invade our livestock and steal and slaughter our cows.\n\nCurrently the conflicts have been settled and become dormant due to the available government. Only that if it happens some livestock invade and consume crops in the farms, then the farm owner and livestock owner do sit together and settle the situation by compensating the farm owner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When do we always experience such conflicts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always experience such conflicts around August to December when it starts raining."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these conflicts affected the two sides that is the livestock keepers and crop farmers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both sides have been affected because both sides have lost their lives and livestock were killed and stolen.\n\nSome cows were cut into pieces and some slaughtered and sold to butchers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the elder men settle these conflicts when they happen?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.30049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We always experience such conflicts around August to December when it starts raining."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these conflicts affected the two sides that is the livestock keepers and crop farmers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both sides have been affected because both sides have lost their lives and livestock were killed and stolen.\n\nSome cows were cut into pieces and some slaughtered and sold to butchers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the elder men settle these conflicts when they happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just come together and find resolution and settlement. So the elder men from both sides do come together and discuss the issue so as to come to the consensus as a solution to the conflicts. For instance if the livestock invade crop farms, we should not send the Morans to make a follow up on the issue but rather the owner of the livestock and the owner of the farm should come together and agree to each other how they should make a compensation. So we always conduct some meetings so as to settle the disputes.\n\nWe also solve the disputes using the formed committee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these conflicts affected the responsibilities for women and men?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.5561, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both sides have been affected because both sides have lost their lives and livestock were killed and stolen.\n\nSome cows were cut into pieces and some slaughtered and sold to butchers"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do the elder men settle these conflicts when they happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just come together and find resolution and settlement. So the elder men from both sides do come together and discuss the issue so as to come to the consensus as a solution to the conflicts. For instance if the livestock invade crop farms, we should not send the Morans to make a follow up on the issue but rather the owner of the livestock and the owner of the farm should come together and agree to each other how they should make a compensation. So we always conduct some meetings so as to settle the disputes.\n\nWe also solve the disputes using the formed committee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these conflicts affected the responsibilities for women and men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The responsibilities for women and men have been greatly affected because this turns to be a war, women do run and hide in the forests, they starve and still some die in case of emergency.\n\nSome people do experience blood pressure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other impacts?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.729, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just come together and find resolution and settlement. So the elder men from both sides do come together and discuss the issue so as to come to the consensus as a solution to the conflicts. For instance if the livestock invade crop farms, we should not send the Morans to make a follow up on the issue but rather the owner of the livestock and the owner of the farm should come together and agree to each other how they should make a compensation. So we always conduct some meetings so as to settle the disputes.\n\nWe also solve the disputes using the formed committee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these conflicts affected the responsibilities for women and men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The responsibilities for women and men have been greatly affected because this turns to be a war, women do run and hide in the forests, they starve and still some die in case of emergency.\n\nSome people do experience blood pressure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other impacts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Other impacts include loss of many livestock, destruction of house properties, loss of people's lives; some people have shifted their settlements to other villages in fear of war.\n\nOne of my friends in BB in the sub-village lost almost seventy goats after they were all cut into pieces."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does this community overcome such a situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The responsibilities for women and men have been greatly affected because this turns to be a war, women do run and hide in the forests, they starve and still some die in case of emergency.\n\nSome people do experience blood pressure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other impacts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Other impacts include loss of many livestock, destruction of house properties, loss of people's lives; some people have shifted their settlements to other villages in fear of war.\n\nOne of my friends in BB in the sub-village lost almost seventy goats after they were all cut into pieces."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does this community overcome such a situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just propagate and preach peace among the people; we also use our formed committee to settle any sign of conflicts which seem to exist. ##F004# #When did you start experiencing bad climate and weather changes?\n\nWe started experiencing bad climate changes in 2000s.\n\nBad climate and weather changes have affected the livestock keepers, for instance the last year summer and aridity greatly caused a lot of losses of livestock, in such a way that many people were almost running out of their mind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get education about diet and nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Other impacts include loss of many livestock, destruction of house properties, loss of people's lives; some people have shifted their settlements to other villages in fear of war.\n\nOne of my friends in BB in the sub-village lost almost seventy goats after they were all cut into pieces."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does this community overcome such a situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just propagate and preach peace among the people; we also use our formed committee to settle any sign of conflicts which seem to exist. ##F004# #When did you start experiencing bad climate and weather changes?\n\nWe started experiencing bad climate changes in 2000s.\n\nBad climate and weather changes have affected the livestock keepers, for instance the last year summer and aridity greatly caused a lot of losses of livestock, in such a way that many people were almost running out of their mind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get education about diet and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not yet got education about diet and nutrition.\n\nThis question is a bit difficult because we do not have any new education about diet and nutrition.\n\nWe Maasai had something called 'lomoni', it is a kind of conversion and discussion among the Maasai elders, this lomoni can cover a lot of issues which happen in our community. This is a great means through which Maasai do spread news from one person to another.\n\nApart from lomoni, we also get some information about different issues when we attend general village meetings, traditional and ritual meetings, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How should do we improve these means of spreading and delivering information from one person to another about diet and nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00002:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We just propagate and preach peace among the people; we also use our formed committee to settle any sign of conflicts which seem to exist. ##F004# #When did you start experiencing bad climate and weather changes?\n\nWe started experiencing bad climate changes in 2000s.\n\nBad climate and weather changes have affected the livestock keepers, for instance the last year summer and aridity greatly caused a lot of losses of livestock, in such a way that many people were almost running out of their mind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get education about diet and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not yet got education about diet and nutrition.\n\nThis question is a bit difficult because we do not have any new education about diet and nutrition.\n\nWe Maasai had something called 'lomoni', it is a kind of conversion and discussion among the Maasai elders, this lomoni can cover a lot of issues which happen in our community. This is a great means through which Maasai do spread news from one person to another.\n\nApart from lomoni, we also get some information about different issues when we attend general village meetings, traditional and ritual meetings, etc."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How should do we improve these means of spreading and delivering information from one person to another about diet and nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To improve these means of delivering information, we should use the village and tribal leaders known as \"laigwenani', we can also use individuals at the family level so as to deliver these information to the family members.\n\nThere are also educated and school graduates who can do this work of delivering information about diet and nutrition from one person to another.\n\nWe should also ask for the diet and nutrition experts to come and provide education to us in our villages."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any other additional views?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 14.906598705761823, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "thank you"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and tell me a bit about yourself, how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "let me begin with my age, I am just 28 years old"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and what are your qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes my qualifications are I have bachelors in pharmacy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, where did you train?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 15.451776339735359, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "let me begin with my age, I am just 28 years old"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and what are your qualifications?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes my qualifications are I have bachelors in pharmacy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, where did you train?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I trained from Mbarara University of science and technology"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and when was that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 9.390862599705954, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes my qualifications are I have bachelors in pharmacy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, where did you train?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I trained from Mbarara University of science and technology"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and when was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that should have been from 2009 to 2014, then did my internship in Rubaga and I worked my first year with a medical centre its name called Issa medical centre, went ahead and worked with the district hospital, which is a PNFP, Rushere community hospital, then later I joined Mbarara regional referral till to date."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how long have you been in Mbarara regional referral?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 8.212069555228837, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I trained from Mbarara University of science and technology"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and when was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that should have been from 2009 to 2014, then did my internship in Rubaga and I worked my first year with a medical centre its name called Issa medical centre, went ahead and worked with the district hospital, which is a PNFP, Rushere community hospital, then later I joined Mbarara regional referral till to date."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how long have you been in Mbarara regional referral?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mbarara regional referral I think I am in two and a half years I think, I should approximately be completing my third year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and what are the demographics of the patients you see at this hospital ever since you came, which age groups of the patients do you see?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.680077283587595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that should have been from 2009 to 2014, then did my internship in Rubaga and I worked my first year with a medical centre its name called Issa medical centre, went ahead and worked with the district hospital, which is a PNFP, Rushere community hospital, then later I joined Mbarara regional referral till to date."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how long have you been in Mbarara regional referral?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mbarara regional referral I think I am in two and a half years I think, I should approximately be completing my third year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and what are the demographics of the patients you see at this hospital ever since you came, which age groups of the patients do you see?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the patients we always see at the hospital are almost from from zero age to the oldest which you can never know, that's the kind of patients we see, and you see they are from different places, there are even patients who come from Tanzania, refugees, others are close to Kisoro, everywhere, Masaka also refers here, Fortportal refers here so the patients are many from different places that are not even in our catchment area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and what are the common illnesses in these patients you see, depending on the group, do you remember the common illnesses they have?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.088974759541772, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mbarara regional referral I think I am in two and a half years I think, I should approximately be completing my third year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and what are the demographics of the patients you see at this hospital ever since you came, which age groups of the patients do you see?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the patients we always see at the hospital are almost from from zero age to the oldest which you can never know, that's the kind of patients we see, and you see they are from different places, there are even patients who come from Tanzania, refugees, others are close to Kisoro, everywhere, Masaka also refers here, Fortportal refers here so the patients are many from different places that are not even in our catchment area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and what are the common illnesses in these patients you see, depending on the group, do you remember the common illnesses they have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "if I am to see, the common illnesses keep on changing like, for last year, there were these other common diseases, maybe someone comes presents with maybe UTI and PIDs, ulcers, upper respiratory tract infections, those are the common ones we see at OPD, then the different wards, now like at medical ward, there is the common patients we always see maybe having heart complications, hypertension and all that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so tell me a bit about your training on rheumatic heart disease have you received any specific training during school about rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.543305288379747, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the patients we always see at the hospital are almost from from zero age to the oldest which you can never know, that's the kind of patients we see, and you see they are from different places, there are even patients who come from Tanzania, refugees, others are close to Kisoro, everywhere, Masaka also refers here, Fortportal refers here so the patients are many from different places that are not even in our catchment area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and what are the common illnesses in these patients you see, depending on the group, do you remember the common illnesses they have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "if I am to see, the common illnesses keep on changing like, for last year, there were these other common diseases, maybe someone comes presents with maybe UTI and PIDs, ulcers, upper respiratory tract infections, those are the common ones we see at OPD, then the different wards, now like at medical ward, there is the common patients we always see maybe having heart complications, hypertension and all that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so tell me a bit about your training on rheumatic heart disease have you received any specific training during school about rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "rheumatic heart disease, I heard it in school, and if I am to remember, I think it could have been given so much time during its being taught, I might not remember the nitty- gritty time has gone I might not remember but at school, were taught about rheumatic disease but since I started working, I have not heard any training, maybe refresher training of rheumatic disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "actually that leads me to my next question because I was going to ask you that after graduation have you heard any specific training about rheumatic heart disease?."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.048116987088608, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "if I am to see, the common illnesses keep on changing like, for last year, there were these other common diseases, maybe someone comes presents with maybe UTI and PIDs, ulcers, upper respiratory tract infections, those are the common ones we see at OPD, then the different wards, now like at medical ward, there is the common patients we always see maybe having heart complications, hypertension and all that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so tell me a bit about your training on rheumatic heart disease have you received any specific training during school about rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "rheumatic heart disease, I heard it in school, and if I am to remember, I think it could have been given so much time during its being taught, I might not remember the nitty- gritty time has gone I might not remember but at school, were taught about rheumatic disease but since I started working, I have not heard any training, maybe refresher training of rheumatic disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "actually that leads me to my next question because I was going to ask you that after graduation have you heard any specific training about rheumatic heart disease?."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no I haven’t heard any training of rheumatic heart disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, but have you seen rheumatic heart disease patients ever since you started working especially here at this hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.497907763431786, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "rheumatic heart disease, I heard it in school, and if I am to remember, I think it could have been given so much time during its being taught, I might not remember the nitty- gritty time has gone I might not remember but at school, were taught about rheumatic disease but since I started working, I have not heard any training, maybe refresher training of rheumatic disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "actually that leads me to my next question because I was going to ask you that after graduation have you heard any specific training about rheumatic heart disease?."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no I haven’t heard any training of rheumatic heart disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, but have you seen rheumatic heart disease patients ever since you started working especially here at this hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "on the wards, for the time I have been on the wards, I can’t recall exactly, but I think I could have seen because due to the nature of my work, you find that there is so much, I am responsible for supply chain, I am responsible for training staffs, I am responsible for administrative issues, so at times I find that even when I am on ward for a shorter time, my patient to patient interaction time at times is always so small maybe just on a few spot checks but I think for rheumatic heart disease patients I could have met him those first days when I was trying to practice in the medical ward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what's your understanding of the causes of rheumatic heart disease in your own understanding?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.775453070479762, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no I haven’t heard any training of rheumatic heart disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, but have you seen rheumatic heart disease patients ever since you started working especially here at this hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "on the wards, for the time I have been on the wards, I can’t recall exactly, but I think I could have seen because due to the nature of my work, you find that there is so much, I am responsible for supply chain, I am responsible for training staffs, I am responsible for administrative issues, so at times I find that even when I am on ward for a shorter time, my patient to patient interaction time at times is always so small maybe just on a few spot checks but I think for rheumatic heart disease patients I could have met him those first days when I was trying to practice in the medical ward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what's your understanding of the causes of rheumatic heart disease in your own understanding?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "at first like I have told you, from the basic local explanation that you have been using to explain to people, we believe that rheumatic heart disease is; the walls, and how people say it in Luganda “ebisenge byomutima babilidde” though the actual things that we are taught in class are that maybe those other valves of the heart are eaten up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay do you know what causes that to happen?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0838367449775137, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "on the wards, for the time I have been on the wards, I can’t recall exactly, but I think I could have seen because due to the nature of my work, you find that there is so much, I am responsible for supply chain, I am responsible for training staffs, I am responsible for administrative issues, so at times I find that even when I am on ward for a shorter time, my patient to patient interaction time at times is always so small maybe just on a few spot checks but I think for rheumatic heart disease patients I could have met him those first days when I was trying to practice in the medical ward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so what's your understanding of the causes of rheumatic heart disease in your own understanding?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "at first like I have told you, from the basic local explanation that you have been using to explain to people, we believe that rheumatic heart disease is; the walls, and how people say it in Luganda “ebisenge byomutima babilidde” though the actual things that we are taught in class are that maybe those other valves of the heart are eaten up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay do you know what causes that to happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "from what I learnt I learnt in school, the little that I could recall would be that when you have simple disease, maybe like a simple cough that is not treated, they told us even a mere infection, or even a nose infection, that alone can get its own way within a blood stream to reach the heart and you get that kind of the infection"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, are you aware of the link between a sore throat and rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.426485272197237, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "at first like I have told you, from the basic local explanation that you have been using to explain to people, we believe that rheumatic heart disease is; the walls, and how people say it in Luganda “ebisenge byomutima babilidde” though the actual things that we are taught in class are that maybe those other valves of the heart are eaten up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay do you know what causes that to happen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "from what I learnt I learnt in school, the little that I could recall would be that when you have simple disease, maybe like a simple cough that is not treated, they told us even a mere infection, or even a nose infection, that alone can get its own way within a blood stream to reach the heart and you get that kind of the infection"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, are you aware of the link between a sore throat and rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "now that physiology that happens there, is what I can’t recall properly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and what were you taught can be done to prevent rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.696094746885819, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "from what I learnt I learnt in school, the little that I could recall would be that when you have simple disease, maybe like a simple cough that is not treated, they told us even a mere infection, or even a nose infection, that alone can get its own way within a blood stream to reach the heart and you get that kind of the infection"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, are you aware of the link between a sore throat and rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "now that physiology that happens there, is what I can’t recall properly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and what were you taught can be done to prevent rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "from what we were taught, we were taught that, where resources are available in a resourceful environment mostly they could do a throat sore by maybe, they can be able to identify the micro organisms but in these other facility settings here in Uganda they told us they never take any sore throat for granted, maybe they can go ahead to find out whether its viral or bacterial but make sure that every sore throat can be very treated any cough, actually any cough needs to be attended to because at times it can progress somewhere and its more expensive to treat rheumatic heart disease than the sore throat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and what were you taught are the treating options for rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.995660829873132, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "now that physiology that happens there, is what I can’t recall properly"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and what were you taught can be done to prevent rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "from what we were taught, we were taught that, where resources are available in a resourceful environment mostly they could do a throat sore by maybe, they can be able to identify the micro organisms but in these other facility settings here in Uganda they told us they never take any sore throat for granted, maybe they can go ahead to find out whether its viral or bacterial but make sure that every sore throat can be very treated any cough, actually any cough needs to be attended to because at times it can progress somewhere and its more expensive to treat rheumatic heart disease than the sore throat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and what were you taught are the treating options for rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "rheumatic heart disease I think by then, if I am to remember, one stays on the treatment for antibiotics for quite sometime, it’s not a treatment for antibiotics and if I am to recall, I remember they should have told us someone to be on penicillin for quite a long time, there I can’t remember the exact time we were told."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, any other options or treatment options?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3285120331923688, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "from what we were taught, we were taught that, where resources are available in a resourceful environment mostly they could do a throat sore by maybe, they can be able to identify the micro organisms but in these other facility settings here in Uganda they told us they never take any sore throat for granted, maybe they can go ahead to find out whether its viral or bacterial but make sure that every sore throat can be very treated any cough, actually any cough needs to be attended to because at times it can progress somewhere and its more expensive to treat rheumatic heart disease than the sore throat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and what were you taught are the treating options for rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "rheumatic heart disease I think by then, if I am to remember, one stays on the treatment for antibiotics for quite sometime, it’s not a treatment for antibiotics and if I am to recall, I remember they should have told us someone to be on penicillin for quite a long time, there I can’t remember the exact time we were told."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, any other options or treatment options?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because even if they are to do valve replacement and all that still that doesn’t prevent you from taking those antibiotics"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and what's your understanding about the long term prognosis of rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6983467035470765, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "rheumatic heart disease I think by then, if I am to remember, one stays on the treatment for antibiotics for quite sometime, it’s not a treatment for antibiotics and if I am to recall, I remember they should have told us someone to be on penicillin for quite a long time, there I can’t remember the exact time we were told."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, any other options or treatment options?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because even if they are to do valve replacement and all that still that doesn’t prevent you from taking those antibiotics"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and what's your understanding about the long term prognosis of rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "what I know is, like I was saying, most of the patients that I have been meeting that I know their fate is always death but actually I haven’t seen one who has recovered, I haven’t met one who has recovered."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, let’s remember those ones you have encountered, do you remember the last person you saw with rheumatic heart disease, can you try to recall?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4547490167247856, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "what I know is, like I was saying, most of the patients that I have been meeting that I know their fate is always death but actually I haven’t seen one who has recovered, I haven’t met one who has recovered."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, let’s remember those ones you have encountered, do you remember the last person you saw with rheumatic heart disease, can you try to recall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, it was a young kid"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how old?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it was around 9 or 11 one of the two ages"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "male or female?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.838610018583095, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, it was a young kid"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how old?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it was around 9 or 11 one of the two ages"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "male or female?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it was a male"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how long ago was that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1540111317589945, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it was around 9 or 11 one of the two ages"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "male or female?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it was a male"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how long ago was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that could be around three years ago"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "was that kid in school or not"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5044568130655493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it was a male"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how long ago was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that could be around three years ago"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "was that kid in school or not"}, {"role": "user", "content": "he wasn’t in school; actually he could have left school with parents saying that there is unexplained illness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is there any other thing you remember about that child?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.893840903406166, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that could be around three years ago"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "was that kid in school or not"}, {"role": "user", "content": "he wasn’t in school; actually he could have left school with parents saying that there is unexplained illness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is there any other thing you remember about that child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the diagnosis was a problem by then, actually it was doctor ... she is the one who came and we were having that kid on ward, that's when she said this kid could be having such and such a problem, why don’t we go for further investigations to find out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay as you saw parents of that child or any other parents who have children with rheumatic heart disease, do you think they are aware of the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and rheumatic heart disease in your own opinion?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.215378781562406, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "he wasn’t in school; actually he could have left school with parents saying that there is unexplained illness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is there any other thing you remember about that child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the diagnosis was a problem by then, actually it was doctor ... she is the one who came and we were having that kid on ward, that's when she said this kid could be having such and such a problem, why don’t we go for further investigations to find out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay as you saw parents of that child or any other parents who have children with rheumatic heart disease, do you think they are aware of the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and rheumatic heart disease in your own opinion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, for them they were just having a patient whom they were just keeping in the hospital, actually the unfortunate bit is that they had been hospitalized for two weeks on the ward with no proper diagnosis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so let us look at this child you remember very well, what were the symptoms this child was presenting with?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.572643090624896, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the diagnosis was a problem by then, actually it was doctor ... she is the one who came and we were having that kid on ward, that's when she said this kid could be having such and such a problem, why don’t we go for further investigations to find out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay as you saw parents of that child or any other parents who have children with rheumatic heart disease, do you think they are aware of the link between sore throat, acute rheumatic fever and rheumatic heart disease in your own opinion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, for them they were just having a patient whom they were just keeping in the hospital, actually the unfortunate bit is that they had been hospitalized for two weeks on the ward with no proper diagnosis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so let us look at this child you remember very well, what were the symptoms this child was presenting with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for that young man, he had already grown too small, looking malnourished, there are some parts of his body that were darkening on his body and I saw, he was also having amm, I don’t remember exactly but I am trying to draw the picture of that young boy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and do you think these patients are generally good at follow-ups and adherence to their drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.858492322916551, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, for them they were just having a patient whom they were just keeping in the hospital, actually the unfortunate bit is that they had been hospitalized for two weeks on the ward with no proper diagnosis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so let us look at this child you remember very well, what were the symptoms this child was presenting with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for that young man, he had already grown too small, looking malnourished, there are some parts of his body that were darkening on his body and I saw, he was also having amm, I don’t remember exactly but I am trying to draw the picture of that young boy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and do you think these patients are generally good at follow-ups and adherence to their drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you well explain to them their problem and you tell them that this will be the solution and when they swallow the drugs they see a change within the first few weeks, they can adhere because by the time those guys came into hospital, it was just at the extreme end."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so is the problem not explaining to these patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1761025810183896, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "for that young man, he had already grown too small, looking malnourished, there are some parts of his body that were darkening on his body and I saw, he was also having amm, I don’t remember exactly but I am trying to draw the picture of that young boy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and do you think these patients are generally good at follow-ups and adherence to their drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you well explain to them their problem and you tell them that this will be the solution and when they swallow the drugs they see a change within the first few weeks, they can adhere because by the time those guys came into hospital, it was just at the extreme end."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so is the problem not explaining to these patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that could be one of the cause, one if they don’t explain to these patients, two, even these cultural beliefs in them, you can convince the patient, the response to treatment I don’t know why it would always be slow, that one alone discourages patients from doing what, from taking these medications"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is that from your own opinion?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.529002867798211, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think if you well explain to them their problem and you tell them that this will be the solution and when they swallow the drugs they see a change within the first few weeks, they can adhere because by the time those guys came into hospital, it was just at the extreme end."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so is the problem not explaining to these patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that could be one of the cause, one if they don’t explain to these patients, two, even these cultural beliefs in them, you can convince the patient, the response to treatment I don’t know why it would always be slow, that one alone discourages patients from doing what, from taking these medications"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "is that from your own opinion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that's from my own opinion"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and for them what do they say, these patients, what do they say are the barriers they commonly face to getting care"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1222257627138403, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that's from my own opinion"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and for them what do they say, these patients, what do they say are the barriers they commonly face to getting care"}, {"role": "user", "content": "these patients, now like that patient he was coming from very far, maybe from Isingiro, I don’t still remember, he had moved through several clinic, several health centres, several tradition healers to a point where by the mother realised things were too bad to bring him to Mbarara here, so what prevents them from getting health care, sometimes they find that the normal conventional way of getting treatment, they feel it’s not healthy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because most of them think some of these problems they have are because of their cultural beliefs, that is one, two some people don’t have money, some people are very poor, because even that patient was coming from a very poor home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you mean in this area people that are poor do not get the care, do not get treated?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4691397363487115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "these patients, now like that patient he was coming from very far, maybe from Isingiro, I don’t still remember, he had moved through several clinic, several health centres, several tradition healers to a point where by the mother realised things were too bad to bring him to Mbarara here, so what prevents them from getting health care, sometimes they find that the normal conventional way of getting treatment, they feel it’s not healthy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because most of them think some of these problems they have are because of their cultural beliefs, that is one, two some people don’t have money, some people are very poor, because even that patient was coming from a very poor home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you mean in this area people that are poor do not get the care, do not get treated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in this area people who are poor they get treatment, they all get treatment, but"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "elaborate more, what you mean by they don’t have enough money"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.854599707054124, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "because most of them think some of these problems they have are because of their cultural beliefs, that is one, two some people don’t have money, some people are very poor, because even that patient was coming from a very poor home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so you mean in this area people that are poor do not get the care, do not get treated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in this area people who are poor they get treatment, they all get treatment, but"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "elaborate more, what you mean by they don’t have enough money"}, {"role": "user", "content": "by the time someone fails to treat a sore throat, you know there are things that we just see, now like a sore throat, it’s not something that maybe someone spends his money on to treat, are you seeing, and not so much people will take time to treat a sore throat, they think it resolves on its own and goes, are you seeing, so when it progresses on something like rheumatic heart disease, really a few people can afford to do some of these surgeries even to keep on these medications for long, even a mere hypertensive patient finds it so expensive to buy his own medicine, even a diabetic patient, you find them crying after telling them that we have run out of stock of such drugs maybe they can try somewhere else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so now this moves us to the local system health care barriers, I am going to mention here some pieces, you will tell me which ones work for you, in terms of giving care to patients, and you will tell me some which do not work for you and you will tell me why, so let us start with administration and leadership at the district does it work for you here at the hospital, in terms of you giving services to the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.282888563393471, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "in this area people who are poor they get treatment, they all get treatment, but"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "elaborate more, what you mean by they don’t have enough money"}, {"role": "user", "content": "by the time someone fails to treat a sore throat, you know there are things that we just see, now like a sore throat, it’s not something that maybe someone spends his money on to treat, are you seeing, and not so much people will take time to treat a sore throat, they think it resolves on its own and goes, are you seeing, so when it progresses on something like rheumatic heart disease, really a few people can afford to do some of these surgeries even to keep on these medications for long, even a mere hypertensive patient finds it so expensive to buy his own medicine, even a diabetic patient, you find them crying after telling them that we have run out of stock of such drugs maybe they can try somewhere else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so now this moves us to the local system health care barriers, I am going to mention here some pieces, you will tell me which ones work for you, in terms of giving care to patients, and you will tell me some which do not work for you and you will tell me why, so let us start with administration and leadership at the district does it work for you here at the hospital, in terms of you giving services to the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that one, it very much helps me because even if I ran out of something here, the district can support me, it can do redistribution of medicines and they get medicines so that one alone reduces my stock out period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so it is working for you"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.75876507043719, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "by the time someone fails to treat a sore throat, you know there are things that we just see, now like a sore throat, it’s not something that maybe someone spends his money on to treat, are you seeing, and not so much people will take time to treat a sore throat, they think it resolves on its own and goes, are you seeing, so when it progresses on something like rheumatic heart disease, really a few people can afford to do some of these surgeries even to keep on these medications for long, even a mere hypertensive patient finds it so expensive to buy his own medicine, even a diabetic patient, you find them crying after telling them that we have run out of stock of such drugs maybe they can try somewhere else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so now this moves us to the local system health care barriers, I am going to mention here some pieces, you will tell me which ones work for you, in terms of giving care to patients, and you will tell me some which do not work for you and you will tell me why, so let us start with administration and leadership at the district does it work for you here at the hospital, in terms of you giving services to the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that one, it very much helps me because even if I ran out of something here, the district can support me, it can do redistribution of medicines and they get medicines so that one alone reduces my stock out period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so it is working for you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for me it is working in good relationship"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about funding for healthcare in general is it working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.287516744930211, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that one, it very much helps me because even if I ran out of something here, the district can support me, it can do redistribution of medicines and they get medicines so that one alone reduces my stock out period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so it is working for you"}, {"role": "user", "content": "for me it is working in good relationship"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about funding for healthcare in general is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the funding in the healthcare system is okay but the few challenges that are there, some of them could be the inefficiencies within the system, like maybe the human resources, if someone tells you to make an order for medicines and maybe I choose to make an order of medicines that are irrelevant in the community, what happens is that I will have expiries what patients need, they do won’t get it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and how about the funding for rheumatic heart disease in particular?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.8750186054780125, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "for me it is working in good relationship"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about funding for healthcare in general is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the funding in the healthcare system is okay but the few challenges that are there, some of them could be the inefficiencies within the system, like maybe the human resources, if someone tells you to make an order for medicines and maybe I choose to make an order of medicines that are irrelevant in the community, what happens is that I will have expiries what patients need, they do won’t get it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and how about the funding for rheumatic heart disease in particular?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in particular, actually when it comes to ordering for some of these medicines, some of these things, we don’t go to the nitty-gritty of every disease that now this medicine is for caring for these people with rheumatic heart disease no, we try to consider what is on essential medicines, that is one thing, two we try to focus on what is very vital and essential then some of these non-essential we use some kind of principals to quantify and be able to procure some of these medicines we have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, I am interested in knowing those ones that are very essential that you add on the essential drug list"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.4166873394200135, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the funding in the healthcare system is okay but the few challenges that are there, some of them could be the inefficiencies within the system, like maybe the human resources, if someone tells you to make an order for medicines and maybe I choose to make an order of medicines that are irrelevant in the community, what happens is that I will have expiries what patients need, they do won’t get it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "and how about the funding for rheumatic heart disease in particular?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in particular, actually when it comes to ordering for some of these medicines, some of these things, we don’t go to the nitty-gritty of every disease that now this medicine is for caring for these people with rheumatic heart disease no, we try to consider what is on essential medicines, that is one thing, two we try to focus on what is very vital and essential then some of these non-essential we use some kind of principals to quantify and be able to procure some of these medicines we have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, I am interested in knowing those ones that are very essential that you add on the essential drug list"}, {"role": "user", "content": "you see now the things that are very vital, we ensure that we always have Normal Saline and try whatever it takes to ensure that there are always fluids because its something that covers a very big number of patients, two, there are things that maybe serve like, gloves, cotton, goose, those ones, I will always ensure that they are always bought, because that is like first line of defence, so alone all those would consume a lot of budget but I know if all these ones I buy them, they still cut across to patients with rheumatic heart disease, if a patient comes here and we give him some of the treatment still they will use some of these as vehicles to transport these to the blood vessels."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so let us look at the health care workers, in terms of the numbers and the quality of care they give, do you think it’s working for you, let’s start with the numbers of the healthcare workers working in this hospital, is that one working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.018541488244459, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "in particular, actually when it comes to ordering for some of these medicines, some of these things, we don’t go to the nitty-gritty of every disease that now this medicine is for caring for these people with rheumatic heart disease no, we try to consider what is on essential medicines, that is one thing, two we try to focus on what is very vital and essential then some of these non-essential we use some kind of principals to quantify and be able to procure some of these medicines we have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, I am interested in knowing those ones that are very essential that you add on the essential drug list"}, {"role": "user", "content": "you see now the things that are very vital, we ensure that we always have Normal Saline and try whatever it takes to ensure that there are always fluids because its something that covers a very big number of patients, two, there are things that maybe serve like, gloves, cotton, goose, those ones, I will always ensure that they are always bought, because that is like first line of defence, so alone all those would consume a lot of budget but I know if all these ones I buy them, they still cut across to patients with rheumatic heart disease, if a patient comes here and we give him some of the treatment still they will use some of these as vehicles to transport these to the blood vessels."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so let us look at the health care workers, in terms of the numbers and the quality of care they give, do you think it’s working for you, let’s start with the numbers of the healthcare workers working in this hospital, is that one working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, the work load would be much bigger than the healthcare workers available, the work load could be bigger but I see, they always sail through."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, how about the quality of care that the health workers give, is it working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.57615720916051, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "you see now the things that are very vital, we ensure that we always have Normal Saline and try whatever it takes to ensure that there are always fluids because its something that covers a very big number of patients, two, there are things that maybe serve like, gloves, cotton, goose, those ones, I will always ensure that they are always bought, because that is like first line of defence, so alone all those would consume a lot of budget but I know if all these ones I buy them, they still cut across to patients with rheumatic heart disease, if a patient comes here and we give him some of the treatment still they will use some of these as vehicles to transport these to the blood vessels."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so let us look at the health care workers, in terms of the numbers and the quality of care they give, do you think it’s working for you, let’s start with the numbers of the healthcare workers working in this hospital, is that one working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, the work load would be much bigger than the healthcare workers available, the work load could be bigger but I see, they always sail through."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, how about the quality of care that the health workers give, is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "if I am to go to my department here, I am very okay with the quality because literally I have not had any challenges for the past three years, yes there is no perfect system, unless it is only in heaven, you can always have mix ups here and there, but you always try to fix them and things keep moving"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, let’s see about the waiting time of our patients, do you think it’s working for you, are you happy with it, the waiting time?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.1957302324005665, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, the work load would be much bigger than the healthcare workers available, the work load could be bigger but I see, they always sail through."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, how about the quality of care that the health workers give, is it working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "if I am to go to my department here, I am very okay with the quality because literally I have not had any challenges for the past three years, yes there is no perfect system, unless it is only in heaven, you can always have mix ups here and there, but you always try to fix them and things keep moving"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, let’s see about the waiting time of our patients, do you think it’s working for you, are you happy with it, the waiting time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it could be even shorter like I told you the volume of work is bigger than the staffs so it can be shortened if the volume of work is smaller than the staffs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so you are trying to, for starters, how long does each patient wait before getting services here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.773033591556185, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "if I am to go to my department here, I am very okay with the quality because literally I have not had any challenges for the past three years, yes there is no perfect system, unless it is only in heaven, you can always have mix ups here and there, but you always try to fix them and things keep moving"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, let’s see about the waiting time of our patients, do you think it’s working for you, are you happy with it, the waiting time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it could be even shorter like I told you the volume of work is bigger than the staffs so it can be shortened if the volume of work is smaller than the staffs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so you are trying to, for starters, how long does each patient wait before getting services here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "maximally it would be like 10 to 15 minutes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that's what they wait for now"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.30337065728465, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it could be even shorter like I told you the volume of work is bigger than the staffs so it can be shortened if the volume of work is smaller than the staffs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so you are trying to, for starters, how long does each patient wait before getting services here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "maximally it would be like 10 to 15 minutes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that's what they wait for now"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, if they are many, 10-15 minutes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and let’s look at the medicines now, this is your department, particularly Benzathine penicillin, anti-coagulations and heart failure drugs, is that piece working for you are those drugs there?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.892634063649611, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "maximally it would be like 10 to 15 minutes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that's what they wait for now"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, if they are many, 10-15 minutes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and let’s look at the medicines now, this is your department, particularly Benzathine penicillin, anti-coagulations and heart failure drugs, is that piece working for you are those drugs there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Benzathine penicillin is always there and sometimes it gets expired, yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "anti coagulation drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.547371181832901, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, if they are many, 10-15 minutes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, and let’s look at the medicines now, this is your department, particularly Benzathine penicillin, anti-coagulations and heart failure drugs, is that piece working for you are those drugs there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Benzathine penicillin is always there and sometimes it gets expired, yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "anti coagulation drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "anti-coagulation like warfarin I think it has been out of stock for quite some time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "other anti-coagulation drugs, like cardiac aspirin?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.052634646481001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Benzathine penicillin is always there and sometimes it gets expired, yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "anti coagulation drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "anti-coagulation like warfarin I think it has been out of stock for quite some time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "other anti-coagulation drugs, like cardiac aspirin?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cardiac aspirin, Clopidogrel, for cardiac aspirin is always available throughout, cardiac aspirin is among the essential medicine, so for that one is always in stock through out because it cuts across a bigger population of patients, so cardiac aspirin is always available but for things like Warfarin it’s always on and off, Clopidogrel on and off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about other heart failure drugs?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.614038496090001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "anti-coagulation like warfarin I think it has been out of stock for quite some time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "other anti-coagulation drugs, like cardiac aspirin?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cardiac aspirin, Clopidogrel, for cardiac aspirin is always available throughout, cardiac aspirin is among the essential medicine, so for that one is always in stock through out because it cuts across a bigger population of patients, so cardiac aspirin is always available but for things like Warfarin it’s always on and off, Clopidogrel on and off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about other heart failure drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like Digoxin and all that? Yes Digoxin is always available, some are available some are not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so does this mean that this piece is working for you or its not working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 5.126709440100001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cardiac aspirin, Clopidogrel, for cardiac aspirin is always available throughout, cardiac aspirin is among the essential medicine, so for that one is always in stock through out because it cuts across a bigger population of patients, so cardiac aspirin is always available but for things like Warfarin it’s always on and off, Clopidogrel on and off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about other heart failure drugs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like Digoxin and all that? Yes Digoxin is always available, some are available some are not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so does this mean that this piece is working for you or its not working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it is not working, I would be happy if I had everything, that's my mission I would feel happy if a patient comes in and walks away with all the medicine he needs but when he wants three and I give him two, I am not happy about it because some of the patients they are going to swallow the two types and leaves out the third one and the therapeutic benefits is always small."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, I am interested in knowing actually why some anti-coagulation drugs like warfarin is not always there and it’s on and off, what brings that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3630104890000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "like Digoxin and all that? Yes Digoxin is always available, some are available some are not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so does this mean that this piece is working for you or its not working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "it is not working, I would be happy if I had everything, that's my mission I would feel happy if a patient comes in and walks away with all the medicine he needs but when he wants three and I give him two, I am not happy about it because some of the patients they are going to swallow the two types and leaves out the third one and the therapeutic benefits is always small."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, I am interested in knowing actually why some anti-coagulation drugs like warfarin is not always there and it’s on and off, what brings that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some of these drugs, you find that, they are not on the essential medicines list, so when they are not on the essential medicines list, you cannot order for them, that is one, two, the level of care, as a Regional referral, we are not a specialised unit like you see heart institute is in Mulago, for it will always have these medicines like warfarin and others to treat these heart diseases because they are already specialised in that, but now us as a Regional referral and Mbarara is so unfortunate because of its location, it receivers those patients that are meant to be in heart institute but they would come here. That is what creates the inadequacy of the treatment that they don’t have but for our level of care, what they need we have it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so the reasons are because it is not a specialized hospital and some of these drugs are actually not on the essential drugs list, okay and now let’s look at health information medical record systems, is that one working for you here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6255672100000007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it is not working, I would be happy if I had everything, that's my mission I would feel happy if a patient comes in and walks away with all the medicine he needs but when he wants three and I give him two, I am not happy about it because some of the patients they are going to swallow the two types and leaves out the third one and the therapeutic benefits is always small."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, I am interested in knowing actually why some anti-coagulation drugs like warfarin is not always there and it’s on and off, what brings that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some of these drugs, you find that, they are not on the essential medicines list, so when they are not on the essential medicines list, you cannot order for them, that is one, two, the level of care, as a Regional referral, we are not a specialised unit like you see heart institute is in Mulago, for it will always have these medicines like warfarin and others to treat these heart diseases because they are already specialised in that, but now us as a Regional referral and Mbarara is so unfortunate because of its location, it receivers those patients that are meant to be in heart institute but they would come here. That is what creates the inadequacy of the treatment that they don’t have but for our level of care, what they need we have it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so the reasons are because it is not a specialized hospital and some of these drugs are actually not on the essential drugs list, okay and now let’s look at health information medical record systems, is that one working for you here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the healthy management information system, yes it’s working."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, let’s look at the registers here, do you have specific registers for some diseases where you record for example, rheumatic fever, rheumatic heart disease?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9172969000000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "some of these drugs, you find that, they are not on the essential medicines list, so when they are not on the essential medicines list, you cannot order for them, that is one, two, the level of care, as a Regional referral, we are not a specialised unit like you see heart institute is in Mulago, for it will always have these medicines like warfarin and others to treat these heart diseases because they are already specialised in that, but now us as a Regional referral and Mbarara is so unfortunate because of its location, it receivers those patients that are meant to be in heart institute but they would come here. That is what creates the inadequacy of the treatment that they don’t have but for our level of care, what they need we have it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so the reasons are because it is not a specialized hospital and some of these drugs are actually not on the essential drugs list, okay and now let’s look at health information medical record systems, is that one working for you here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the healthy management information system, yes it’s working."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, let’s look at the registers here, do you have specific registers for some diseases where you record for example, rheumatic fever, rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we only give time to things like HIV."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you only have separate registers for HIV?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.2414410000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the healthy management information system, yes it’s working."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, let’s look at the registers here, do you have specific registers for some diseases where you record for example, rheumatic fever, rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we only give time to things like HIV."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you only have separate registers for HIV?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "HIV, TB but these other ones it’s a one register."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "one register, okay do you have the guidelines and protocols for rheumatic heart disease care, here in your department?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.4904900000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we only give time to things like HIV."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you only have separate registers for HIV?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "HIV, TB but these other ones it’s a one register."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "one register, okay do you have the guidelines and protocols for rheumatic heart disease care, here in your department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the guidelines we have should be what is in the UCG and maybe some other guide that I might have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about these other guidelines designed specifically within the department like for HIV or TB, those charts that are specifically designed for rheumatic heart disease, do you have them?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "HIV, TB but these other ones it’s a one register."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "one register, okay do you have the guidelines and protocols for rheumatic heart disease care, here in your department?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "the guidelines we have should be what is in the UCG and maybe some other guide that I might have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about these other guidelines designed specifically within the department like for HIV or TB, those charts that are specifically designed for rheumatic heart disease, do you have them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are guidelines we use, the ones in the UCG, that's what we follow plus what we read but as a department we have not designed that guideline in fact we are in the process of designing what we call a hospital formula, in that hospital formula is where we shall identify the common diseases that we always treat and what is our recommended kind of treatment as per what suites the setting that we are in because we have realised that some medicines might be working in Jinja regional referral but when they can’t work on patients in Mbarara."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay that will be a great idea."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "the guidelines we have should be what is in the UCG and maybe some other guide that I might have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how about these other guidelines designed specifically within the department like for HIV or TB, those charts that are specifically designed for rheumatic heart disease, do you have them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are guidelines we use, the ones in the UCG, that's what we follow plus what we read but as a department we have not designed that guideline in fact we are in the process of designing what we call a hospital formula, in that hospital formula is where we shall identify the common diseases that we always treat and what is our recommended kind of treatment as per what suites the setting that we are in because we have realised that some medicines might be working in Jinja regional referral but when they can’t work on patients in Mbarara."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay that will be a great idea."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it’s something that might take time but we are doing it through the medicine and therapeutics committee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so we are going to go through them again, administration you said it’s working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "there are guidelines we use, the ones in the UCG, that's what we follow plus what we read but as a department we have not designed that guideline in fact we are in the process of designing what we call a hospital formula, in that hospital formula is where we shall identify the common diseases that we always treat and what is our recommended kind of treatment as per what suites the setting that we are in because we have realised that some medicines might be working in Jinja regional referral but when they can’t work on patients in Mbarara."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay that will be a great idea."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it’s something that might take time but we are doing it through the medicine and therapeutics committee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so we are going to go through them again, administration you said it’s working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, administration at the district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay leadership at the district is working for you, funding for health care in general, you said its working for you, and the health care systems, numbers and the qualifications of the health workers and the waiting time for patients is working for you, and the health information system, medical records, you said its working for you, plus the registers, and the guidelines, it’s also working for you, that's it?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "it’s something that might take time but we are doing it through the medicine and therapeutics committee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so we are going to go through them again, administration you said it’s working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, administration at the district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay leadership at the district is working for you, funding for health care in general, you said its working for you, and the health care systems, numbers and the qualifications of the health workers and the waiting time for patients is working for you, and the health information system, medical records, you said its working for you, plus the registers, and the guidelines, it’s also working for you, that's it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "alright, let’s go to the last piece of questions now, do you think the patients get the care they need, especially the rheumatic heart disease patients?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes, administration at the district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay leadership at the district is working for you, funding for health care in general, you said its working for you, and the health care systems, numbers and the qualifications of the health workers and the waiting time for patients is working for you, and the health information system, medical records, you said its working for you, plus the registers, and the guidelines, it’s also working for you, that's it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "alright, let’s go to the last piece of questions now, do you think the patients get the care they need, especially the rheumatic heart disease patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is subjective to patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in your own opinion"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "alright, let’s go to the last piece of questions now, do you think the patients get the care they need, especially the rheumatic heart disease patients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is subjective to patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in your own opinion"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually the patients who leave this place cured are more than, are far from they could even be more than 100 times, bigger than those who leave here with more complications to refer to Mulago for further management, so which I think they are getting the care they need, because if you have close to 400 patients a day, and you may receive a death of one patient or non, don’t you think you are doing a good job, this is a very small percentage of the 400, so they must be getting good treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, talking about death, do you have any patient safety concerns, quality of care concerns, for example, have you had any preventable death here?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is subjective to patient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in your own opinion"}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually the patients who leave this place cured are more than, are far from they could even be more than 100 times, bigger than those who leave here with more complications to refer to Mulago for further management, so which I think they are getting the care they need, because if you have close to 400 patients a day, and you may receive a death of one patient or non, don’t you think you are doing a good job, this is a very small percentage of the 400, so they must be getting good treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, talking about death, do you have any patient safety concerns, quality of care concerns, for example, have you had any preventable death here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "but I think every death is preventable (laughs)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "there are those deaths you really see and be like, oh this person wouldn’t have died, have you had those occasions?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "actually the patients who leave this place cured are more than, are far from they could even be more than 100 times, bigger than those who leave here with more complications to refer to Mulago for further management, so which I think they are getting the care they need, because if you have close to 400 patients a day, and you may receive a death of one patient or non, don’t you think you are doing a good job, this is a very small percentage of the 400, so they must be getting good treatment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, talking about death, do you have any patient safety concerns, quality of care concerns, for example, have you had any preventable death here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "but I think every death is preventable (laughs)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "there are those deaths you really see and be like, oh this person wouldn’t have died, have you had those occasions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "personally not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, do you think there are many patients there in the community dying without presenting here in the hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "but I think every death is preventable (laughs)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "there are those deaths you really see and be like, oh this person wouldn’t have died, have you had those occasions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "personally not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, do you think there are many patients there in the community dying without presenting here in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do you think happens, why don’t they actually surface?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "personally not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, do you think there are many patients there in the community dying without presenting here in the hospital?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do you think happens, why don’t they actually surface?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some of them could be believing like I told you these cultural beliefs, others might be thinking that when they take their tradition medicine it will work for them, others might not know even that they are sick, then others could be in the community and could be having some of these diseases, but when they go to these health facilities, maybe the lower healthy facilities, they don’t find solutions, so they now get to know that even if they go for further management, there will be no solution to help their problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any other reason?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "that is true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do you think happens, why don’t they actually surface?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some of them could be believing like I told you these cultural beliefs, others might be thinking that when they take their tradition medicine it will work for them, others might not know even that they are sick, then others could be in the community and could be having some of these diseases, but when they go to these health facilities, maybe the lower healthy facilities, they don’t find solutions, so they now get to know that even if they go for further management, there will be no solution to help their problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any other reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some of them maybe could not be having money, I am not meaning money to pay, I mean money that could help to transport themselves to hospitals and someone cannot be lacking something to eat and they get money to present to hospitals, this normal one will first eat, then if they are to die the die."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so poverty, cultural beliefs, ignorance because you said that some of them they might not know that they are actually sick, okay is that all you can think of?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "some of them could be believing like I told you these cultural beliefs, others might be thinking that when they take their tradition medicine it will work for them, others might not know even that they are sick, then others could be in the community and could be having some of these diseases, but when they go to these health facilities, maybe the lower healthy facilities, they don’t find solutions, so they now get to know that even if they go for further management, there will be no solution to help their problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any other reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "some of them maybe could not be having money, I am not meaning money to pay, I mean money that could help to transport themselves to hospitals and someone cannot be lacking something to eat and they get money to present to hospitals, this normal one will first eat, then if they are to die the die."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so poverty, cultural beliefs, ignorance because you said that some of them they might not know that they are actually sick, okay is that all you can think of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I told you five."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you told me five, cultural beliefs, poverty, ignorance of their diseases..."}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "some of them maybe could not be having money, I am not meaning money to pay, I mean money that could help to transport themselves to hospitals and someone cannot be lacking something to eat and they get money to present to hospitals, this normal one will first eat, then if they are to die the die."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, so poverty, cultural beliefs, ignorance because you said that some of them they might not know that they are actually sick, okay is that all you can think of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I told you five."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you told me five, cultural beliefs, poverty, ignorance of their diseases..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "others have a bias towards like I have told you, if they go to the lower health facilities and they fail to get solutions, they know they will never get the solutions"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, the last thing in your own opinion, what are one or two important things you think ministry of health can do to improve the outcome of our patients"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I told you five."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "you told me five, cultural beliefs, poverty, ignorance of their diseases..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "others have a bias towards like I have told you, if they go to the lower health facilities and they fail to get solutions, they know they will never get the solutions"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, the last thing in your own opinion, what are one or two important things you think ministry of health can do to improve the outcome of our patients"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in matters of rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in general, you can talk about it in general even in this side of rheumatic heart disease"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "others have a bias towards like I have told you, if they go to the lower health facilities and they fail to get solutions, they know they will never get the solutions"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, the last thing in your own opinion, what are one or two important things you think ministry of health can do to improve the outcome of our patients"}, {"role": "user", "content": "in matters of rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in general, you can talk about it in general even in this side of rheumatic heart disease"}, {"role": "user", "content": "one thing about is it should get more if ministry of health can see disease don’t read books, you can see even of late we used to say that young kids don’t get typhoid, isn’t it but even we see these days young kids with typhoid, so there is much to invest in research, there is a lot to invest in research so that they can get the new trends of management of some of these diseases are even preventable, so there is that need of even sensitizing the community, and some of these very preventable diseases that could even be leading to some of these problems that we are having and I know that one will reduce on the cost burden of the health care system"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, any other, apart from that?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "in matters of rheumatic heart disease?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "in general, you can talk about it in general even in this side of rheumatic heart disease"}, {"role": "user", "content": "one thing about is it should get more if ministry of health can see disease don’t read books, you can see even of late we used to say that young kids don’t get typhoid, isn’t it but even we see these days young kids with typhoid, so there is much to invest in research, there is a lot to invest in research so that they can get the new trends of management of some of these diseases are even preventable, so there is that need of even sensitizing the community, and some of these very preventable diseases that could even be leading to some of these problems that we are having and I know that one will reduce on the cost burden of the health care system"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, any other, apart from that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "most of these diseases are preventable so if they can give those preventive measures which could be, like they have done with malaria, give out mosquito nets then do that and all that, then again sensitize, and for people who have had heart diseases like those hypertensions, those are preventable diseases, people who have diseases like maybe diabetes, yes it is genetic component but you can delay it, but all that comes on how you empower the community with knowledge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any specific thing they should do as far as rheumatic heart disease is concerned?"}]} {"block_id": "healthworker-interviews-00021:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "one thing about is it should get more if ministry of health can see disease don’t read books, you can see even of late we used to say that young kids don’t get typhoid, isn’t it but even we see these days young kids with typhoid, so there is much to invest in research, there is a lot to invest in research so that they can get the new trends of management of some of these diseases are even preventable, so there is that need of even sensitizing the community, and some of these very preventable diseases that could even be leading to some of these problems that we are having and I know that one will reduce on the cost burden of the health care system"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, any other, apart from that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "most of these diseases are preventable so if they can give those preventive measures which could be, like they have done with malaria, give out mosquito nets then do that and all that, then again sensitize, and for people who have had heart diseases like those hypertensions, those are preventable diseases, people who have diseases like maybe diabetes, yes it is genetic component but you can delay it, but all that comes on how you empower the community with knowledge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "any specific thing they should do as far as rheumatic heart disease is concerned?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "rheumatic heart disease being among the cardiovascular diseases that we are having, the only thing I can ask for is like the heart institute in Mulago but Mulago alone may not be able to manage some of these diseases because of the problem of numbers, these is an upward trend to some of these diseases maybe rheumatic heart diseases, so if at a regional referral if some of these units are set up and they are well equipped with whatever they need, this would not be a problem rheumatic heart disease would not be a problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "that's great, is there any other thing you would want to say before we finish?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.674112485759063, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Would you like a preamble or should we just get into it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, we could just get into it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, great.\n\nSo how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "30."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where do you live?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.304569428621181, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, we could just get into it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, great.\n\nSo how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "30."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where do you live?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I live in [city]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that where you work?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.005077142912423, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "30."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where do you live?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I live in [city]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that where you work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's your current position?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.7834190476804705, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I live in [city]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that where you work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's your current position?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My current position is technically fire service paramedic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do medical?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.648243386311634, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's your current position?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My current position is technically fire service paramedic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do medical?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, that's just the title. They refer to it as on the job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long have you been there?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.498048207012927, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My current position is technically fire service paramedic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do medical?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, that's just the title. They refer to it as on the job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long have you been there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I've been where I'm at right now for five years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So was this where you were working in January 2020?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.442275785569919, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, that's just the title. They refer to it as on the job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long have you been there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I've been where I'm at right now for five years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So was this where you were working in January 2020?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me about the time that you first heard about COVID?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 7.9534268957653325, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you tell me about the time that you first heard about COVID?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I first heard about it late October early November 2019, when it was just kind of a whisper saying how, oh, there's something going on in China. I think it was around that time where it's like people just started mentioning it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "October?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was like October, November 2019. When they’re first making mentions of a virus spreading through China. I may be off, but I feel like that's when it was just slowly being mentioned."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you sure you're not talking about the plague outbreak that was there?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.50380766196148, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I first heard about it late October early November 2019, when it was just kind of a whisper saying how, oh, there's something going on in China. I think it was around that time where it's like people just started mentioning it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "October?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was like October, November 2019. When they’re first making mentions of a virus spreading through China. I may be off, but I feel like that's when it was just slowly being mentioned."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you sure you're not talking about the plague outbreak that was there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh, I'm not fully sure. All I remember is that around that time of year, maybe closer to December, in all honesty, ‘cause it's been that long, that mentions of a virus from China just started hitting the news. But at that point it was like, oh, these outbreaks happen. They get dealt with fairly quickly. So it was just like on the back burner.\n\nNo one cared about it.\n\nAnd I guess especially during the years prior, every time there was a big scare, some sort of virus that had a large scale capability of, you know, disrupting things, it was usually handled relatively quickly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were you thinking at first?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.115341846623867, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was like October, November 2019. When they’re first making mentions of a virus spreading through China. I may be off, but I feel like that's when it was just slowly being mentioned."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you sure you're not talking about the plague outbreak that was there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh, I'm not fully sure. All I remember is that around that time of year, maybe closer to December, in all honesty, ‘cause it's been that long, that mentions of a virus from China just started hitting the news. But at that point it was like, oh, these outbreaks happen. They get dealt with fairly quickly. So it was just like on the back burner.\n\nNo one cared about it.\n\nAnd I guess especially during the years prior, every time there was a big scare, some sort of virus that had a large scale capability of, you know, disrupting things, it was usually handled relatively quickly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were you thinking at first?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, like I said, based off of like initial reports at the start, I thought nothing of it um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? Why did you think that?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.572602051804297, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh, I'm not fully sure. All I remember is that around that time of year, maybe closer to December, in all honesty, ‘cause it's been that long, that mentions of a virus from China just started hitting the news. But at that point it was like, oh, these outbreaks happen. They get dealt with fairly quickly. So it was just like on the back burner.\n\nNo one cared about it.\n\nAnd I guess especially during the years prior, every time there was a big scare, some sort of virus that had a large scale capability of, you know, disrupting things, it was usually handled relatively quickly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were you thinking at first?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, like I said, based off of like initial reports at the start, I thought nothing of it um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? Why did you think that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I said, previous big name viruses that kind of take over the news space, they usually are dealt with fairly easily. You hear about them for a couple of weeks. The powers that be do their job. And then if they do hit U.S. soil, it'll be in small numbers and then kind of just not spoken about from there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you for that.\n\nOK, so were you- did you talk about the new virus with anyone around this time?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.080668946449219, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, like I said, based off of like initial reports at the start, I thought nothing of it um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? Why did you think that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I said, previous big name viruses that kind of take over the news space, they usually are dealt with fairly easily. You hear about them for a couple of weeks. The powers that be do their job. And then if they do hit U.S. soil, it'll be in small numbers and then kind of just not spoken about from there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you for that.\n\nOK, so were you- did you talk about the new virus with anyone around this time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No? Nobody on the rig?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.64518771827691, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I said, previous big name viruses that kind of take over the news space, they usually are dealt with fairly easily. You hear about them for a couple of weeks. The powers that be do their job. And then if they do hit U.S. soil, it'll be in small numbers and then kind of just not spoken about from there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you for that.\n\nOK, so were you- did you talk about the new virus with anyone around this time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No? Nobody on the rig?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, no. Because, I mean, I follow a lot of global news, so that's probably why I heard like even the slightest inkling of it that early."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But- okay, so when it started getting into it, so let's say around January or February. Yeah. Then it starts coming into the news more, right?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.161319686974344, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No? Nobody on the rig?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, no. Because, I mean, I follow a lot of global news, so that's probably why I heard like even the slightest inkling of it that early."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But- okay, so when it started getting into it, so let's say around January or February. Yeah. Then it starts coming into the news more, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. That's when I felt like it made more of a global presence and early March 2020 is when I feel like it really started to hit U.S. soil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But, um, around January, February, were your thoughts changing at all."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.734799652193715, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, no. Because, I mean, I follow a lot of global news, so that's probably why I heard like even the slightest inkling of it that early."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But- okay, so when it started getting into it, so let's say around January or February. Yeah. Then it starts coming into the news more, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. That's when I felt like it made more of a global presence and early March 2020 is when I feel like it really started to hit U.S. soil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But, um, around January, February, were your thoughts changing at all."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, sorry. I said we were too use to these stories hittingthe news. They stay in like the mind space of the public for a couple of weeks and then just kinda dissipate away without anyone having to do anything. Well, not anyone, but anyone as in the everyday common man. There's always organizations that be who deal with them accordingly.\n\nBut it's out of sight, out of mind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so in in January and February, though, were you talking with anyone about this?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.371999613548572, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. That's when I felt like it made more of a global presence and early March 2020 is when I feel like it really started to hit U.S. soil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But, um, around January, February, were your thoughts changing at all."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, sorry. I said we were too use to these stories hittingthe news. They stay in like the mind space of the public for a couple of weeks and then just kinda dissipate away without anyone having to do anything. Well, not anyone, but anyone as in the everyday common man. There's always organizations that be who deal with them accordingly.\n\nBut it's out of sight, out of mind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so in in January and February, though, were you talking with anyone about this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, I guess so, I mean, it was, they said out of sight, out of mind. You trust the organizations that are responsible for disease control or pandemic control or prevention… Did that change at all for you before March?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.857777348387302, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, sorry. I said we were too use to these stories hittingthe news. They stay in like the mind space of the public for a couple of weeks and then just kinda dissipate away without anyone having to do anything. Well, not anyone, but anyone as in the everyday common man. There's always organizations that be who deal with them accordingly.\n\nBut it's out of sight, out of mind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so in in January and February, though, were you talking with anyone about this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, I guess so, I mean, it was, they said out of sight, out of mind. You trust the organizations that are responsible for disease control or pandemic control or prevention… Did that change at all for you before March?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the first time I really- it really stuck in my head this may become a problem is when the news stories started coming out of Italy. And I think that was like around maybe a couple of weeks prior to hitting the US soil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what were you thinking when you saw those?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.397530387097001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, I guess so, I mean, it was, they said out of sight, out of mind. You trust the organizations that are responsible for disease control or pandemic control or prevention… Did that change at all for you before March?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the first time I really- it really stuck in my head this may become a problem is when the news stories started coming out of Italy. And I think that was like around maybe a couple of weeks prior to hitting the US soil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what were you thinking when you saw those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was thinking, was this interesting…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And other people around you."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.886144874552223, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the first time I really- it really stuck in my head this may become a problem is when the news stories started coming out of Italy. And I think that was like around maybe a couple of weeks prior to hitting the US soil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then what were you thinking when you saw those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was thinking, was this interesting…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And other people around you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um.\n\nThe people closest to me at work weren't really making a big deal of it. It wasn't really something that was spoken about. The first time it really became a topic of discussion of course, once it started affecting the daily lives of people. once we started realized, Hey, we have to ramp up PPE usage. Hey, we have to screen for this and act certain questions.\n\nAnd then once you saw the influx of both lockdowns and acutely ill patients presenting with COVID, that's when it became a true discussion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it started affecting your field practices?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.429049860613581, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was thinking, was this interesting…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And other people around you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um.\n\nThe people closest to me at work weren't really making a big deal of it. It wasn't really something that was spoken about. The first time it really became a topic of discussion of course, once it started affecting the daily lives of people. once we started realized, Hey, we have to ramp up PPE usage. Hey, we have to screen for this and act certain questions.\n\nAnd then once you saw the influx of both lockdowns and acutely ill patients presenting with COVID, that's when it became a true discussion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it started affecting your field practices?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when that started kicking off?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 4.921166511792868, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um.\n\nThe people closest to me at work weren't really making a big deal of it. It wasn't really something that was spoken about. The first time it really became a topic of discussion of course, once it started affecting the daily lives of people. once we started realized, Hey, we have to ramp up PPE usage. Hey, we have to screen for this and act certain questions.\n\nAnd then once you saw the influx of both lockdowns and acutely ill patients presenting with COVID, that's when it became a true discussion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it started affecting your field practices?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when that started kicking off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, about, I'd say like a week or two after the lockdown took place, that's when I started seeing like acutely ill COVID patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a like a Eureka moment or like an oh shit moment when you realized how bad things were going to be."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1346294575476312, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when that started kicking off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, about, I'd say like a week or two after the lockdown took place, that's when I started seeing like acutely ill COVID patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a like a Eureka moment or like an oh shit moment when you realized how bad things were going to be."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. When I would listen to the radio and there was like a couple nursing homes- nursing homes are hotbeds for disease. They due to like the proximity to patients and poor conditions. Disease spreads fairly quickly, do nursing homes. That's why I like you'll see like runs of sepsis and like upper respiratory infections in like nursing. I mean, like skilled nursing facilities that primarily have ventilated patients so I remember this one nursing home in West Philly almost every hour on the hour someone was getting dispatched for a cardiac arrest in there. now granted they would be, I guess, the target population that you’d expect for this to affect them negatively, but the frequency that it was affecting it, it was just kind of staggering."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in like the weeks leading up to that point."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.371810508386257, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, about, I'd say like a week or two after the lockdown took place, that's when I started seeing like acutely ill COVID patients."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a like a Eureka moment or like an oh shit moment when you realized how bad things were going to be."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. When I would listen to the radio and there was like a couple nursing homes- nursing homes are hotbeds for disease. They due to like the proximity to patients and poor conditions. Disease spreads fairly quickly, do nursing homes. That's why I like you'll see like runs of sepsis and like upper respiratory infections in like nursing. I mean, like skilled nursing facilities that primarily have ventilated patients so I remember this one nursing home in West Philly almost every hour on the hour someone was getting dispatched for a cardiac arrest in there. now granted they would be, I guess, the target population that you’d expect for this to affect them negatively, but the frequency that it was affecting it, it was just kind of staggering."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in like the weeks leading up to that point."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you do anything to prepare personally?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6353450093180633, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. When I would listen to the radio and there was like a couple nursing homes- nursing homes are hotbeds for disease. They due to like the proximity to patients and poor conditions. Disease spreads fairly quickly, do nursing homes. That's why I like you'll see like runs of sepsis and like upper respiratory infections in like nursing. I mean, like skilled nursing facilities that primarily have ventilated patients so I remember this one nursing home in West Philly almost every hour on the hour someone was getting dispatched for a cardiac arrest in there. now granted they would be, I guess, the target population that you’d expect for this to affect them negatively, but the frequency that it was affecting it, it was just kind of staggering."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in like the weeks leading up to that point."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you do anything to prepare personally?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I'd say I just like, read, just like the base knowledge that was out there, how to prevent infection, how to protect yourself as a provider. What signs and symptoms to look for. At the same time, it was just like such a varying degree of symptoms that was just kinda hard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you like change your personal behavior at all?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.9281611214645147, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you do anything to prepare personally?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I'd say I just like, read, just like the base knowledge that was out there, how to prevent infection, how to protect yourself as a provider. What signs and symptoms to look for. At the same time, it was just like such a varying degree of symptoms that was just kinda hard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you like change your personal behavior at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I wouldn’t- I wouldn't say I changed my personal behavior. I just was kind of rolling with what was being dealt with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. And, uh, how did [organization] prep?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.142401246071683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I'd say I just like, read, just like the base knowledge that was out there, how to prevent infection, how to protect yourself as a provider. What signs and symptoms to look for. At the same time, it was just like such a varying degree of symptoms that was just kinda hard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you like change your personal behavior at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I wouldn’t- I wouldn't say I changed my personal behavior. I just was kind of rolling with what was being dealt with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. And, uh, how did [organization] prep?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's the thing. A lot of people didn't have much prep time because they didn't think it was going to hit as hard as it did. So it was kind of dealing with it in real time. We're trying to get PPE as we could. That was difficult for everybody. People were using N95s, we were using face masks. We were using like one piece suits to try and mitigate the possible spread of COVID.\n\nWe were trying to heavily decon[taminate] trucks in between runs so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any meetings or group discussions like in February, say, about this?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.380445828968537, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I wouldn’t- I wouldn't say I changed my personal behavior. I just was kind of rolling with what was being dealt with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. And, uh, how did [organization] prep?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's the thing. A lot of people didn't have much prep time because they didn't think it was going to hit as hard as it did. So it was kind of dealing with it in real time. We're trying to get PPE as we could. That was difficult for everybody. People were using N95s, we were using face masks. We were using like one piece suits to try and mitigate the possible spread of COVID.\n\nWe were trying to heavily decon[taminate] trucks in between runs so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any meetings or group discussions like in February, say, about this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, the ultimate issue with that is the way my organization is structured. It doesn't really prioritize keeping the people on the lowest part of the totem pole in the loop. So I'm pretty sure the higher ups were having their meetings, but they weren't feeding information to us as quick as they can. They were sending out regular emails in regards to how to deal with these patients, how to deal with the possible exposure and all those things.\n\nBut it was like, there was no like verbal communication between us and that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the protocol for a possible exposure?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6449398099650407, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's the thing. A lot of people didn't have much prep time because they didn't think it was going to hit as hard as it did. So it was kind of dealing with it in real time. We're trying to get PPE as we could. That was difficult for everybody. People were using N95s, we were using face masks. We were using like one piece suits to try and mitigate the possible spread of COVID.\n\nWe were trying to heavily decon[taminate] trucks in between runs so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any meetings or group discussions like in February, say, about this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, the ultimate issue with that is the way my organization is structured. It doesn't really prioritize keeping the people on the lowest part of the totem pole in the loop. So I'm pretty sure the higher ups were having their meetings, but they weren't feeding information to us as quick as they can. They were sending out regular emails in regards to how to deal with these patients, how to deal with the possible exposure and all those things.\n\nBut it was like, there was no like verbal communication between us and that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the protocol for a possible exposure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I don't remember because it's obviously changed so many times, but I think early on it was like, I think early on, like early, early COVID was like if you would, if you had someone who's COVID positive, they were taking you off the streets immediately."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have changed pretty quickly."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.9388220110722676, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, the ultimate issue with that is the way my organization is structured. It doesn't really prioritize keeping the people on the lowest part of the totem pole in the loop. So I'm pretty sure the higher ups were having their meetings, but they weren't feeding information to us as quick as they can. They were sending out regular emails in regards to how to deal with these patients, how to deal with the possible exposure and all those things.\n\nBut it was like, there was no like verbal communication between us and that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the protocol for a possible exposure?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I don't remember because it's obviously changed so many times, but I think early on it was like, I think early on, like early, early COVID was like if you would, if you had someone who's COVID positive, they were taking you off the streets immediately."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have changed pretty quickly."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that, that evolved with the times to the point where… you already know how it is now. you can come to work Covid positive and they don’t care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't know because I have a job khkhkh"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.154246678969186, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I don't remember because it's obviously changed so many times, but I think early on it was like, I think early on, like early, early COVID was like if you would, if you had someone who's COVID positive, they were taking you off the streets immediately."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have changed pretty quickly."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that, that evolved with the times to the point where… you already know how it is now. you can come to work Covid positive and they don’t care."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't know because I have a job khkhkh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Khkhkh Oh, okay.\n\nWell, yeah, initially there was like the, the- they were trying their best to limit exposure and like I said, anyone tested positive, everyone who worked in that firehouse that day was immediately taken off the streets. They were deconning firehouses head to toe and it did take a toll on staffing. So I think at one point we were down like a quarter of staff members."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK that's interesting actually.\n\nI'm going to come back to you on that one.\n\nOkay. So in- was anyone trying to push for more action to be taken before it really started to hit?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6595638011965255, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Khkhkh Oh, okay.\n\nWell, yeah, initially there was like the, the- they were trying their best to limit exposure and like I said, anyone tested positive, everyone who worked in that firehouse that day was immediately taken off the streets. They were deconning firehouses head to toe and it did take a toll on staffing. So I think at one point we were down like a quarter of staff members."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK that's interesting actually.\n\nI'm going to come back to you on that one.\n\nOkay. So in- was anyone trying to push for more action to be taken before it really started to hit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So no."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not, at least no one that I saw or know of. No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any conversations with your partner like, hey, we should we should be more worried about this?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.9550708902183613, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So no."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not, at least no one that I saw or know of. No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any conversations with your partner like, hey, we should we should be more worried about this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So looking back on it, do you think what do you wish that the organization had done differently?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.1723009891315126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not, at least no one that I saw or know of. No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any conversations with your partner like, hey, we should we should be more worried about this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So looking back on it, do you think what do you wish that the organization had done differently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess transparency, but that's like an issue that's always going to exist. You gotta learn to be a bit more forthcoming and learn to communicate better with field staff. But that's, that's not unique to Covid and it's not unique to my organization. It's just an issue all of us exist with this job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you have done differently as an individual?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3025566545905696, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So looking back on it, do you think what do you wish that the organization had done differently?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess transparency, but that's like an issue that's always going to exist. You gotta learn to be a bit more forthcoming and learn to communicate better with field staff. But that's, that's not unique to Covid and it's not unique to my organization. It's just an issue all of us exist with this job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you have done differently as an individual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I personally fared incredibly well during the COVID, so… I did I could to limit exposure personally. I tried to keep all my equipment clean. I wasn't really going out, but no one could because there was nowhere to go. So yeah, I did all I could and I wouldn't really change anything in terms of my response."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you, were you still like going to bars and socializing in February and March?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4472851717672994, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess transparency, but that's like an issue that's always going to exist. You gotta learn to be a bit more forthcoming and learn to communicate better with field staff. But that's, that's not unique to Covid and it's not unique to my organization. It's just an issue all of us exist with this job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what would you have done differently as an individual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I personally fared incredibly well during the COVID, so… I did I could to limit exposure personally. I tried to keep all my equipment clean. I wasn't really going out, but no one could because there was nowhere to go. So yeah, I did all I could and I wouldn't really change anything in terms of my response."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you, were you still like going to bars and socializing in February and March?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only people I was interacting with were people from work. So other paramedics other EMTs sometimes and firefighters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Were you working in emergency medicine during Ebola?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6080946352969994, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I personally fared incredibly well during the COVID, so… I did I could to limit exposure personally. I tried to keep all my equipment clean. I wasn't really going out, but no one could because there was nowhere to go. So yeah, I did all I could and I wouldn't really change anything in terms of my response."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you, were you still like going to bars and socializing in February and March?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only people I was interacting with were people from work. So other paramedics other EMTs sometimes and firefighters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Were you working in emergency medicine during Ebola?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't remember, to be honest. What year was that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "13, I think."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.786771816996666, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only people I was interacting with were people from work. So other paramedics other EMTs sometimes and firefighters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Were you working in emergency medicine during Ebola?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't remember, to be honest. What year was that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "13, I think."}, {"role": "user", "content": "13."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "12 or 13."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9853020188851844, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't remember, to be honest. What year was that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "13, I think."}, {"role": "user", "content": "13."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "12 or 13."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was an EMT at the time, but I don't remember anything from there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know if any of the [city] hospitals got hit pretty bad?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.2058911320946493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "13."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "12 or 13."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was an EMT at the time, but I don't remember anything from there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know if any of the [city] hospitals got hit pretty bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, it was horrible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were any, any worse than others?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22876792454961012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was an EMT at the time, but I don't remember anything from there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know if any of the [city] hospitals got hit pretty bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, it was horrible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were any, any worse than others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, if I remember correctly, this coincided kinda with when Hahnemann shut down which was a major hospital, of course, in the city. Um, so Temple was already overwhelmed by essentially an ever growing area of coverage, and that didn't make any things better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so let's- just looking at the time from, like, when you first heard about it to when it really started to hit, like can you tell me about how you felt?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25418658283290013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, it was horrible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were any, any worse than others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, if I remember correctly, this coincided kinda with when Hahnemann shut down which was a major hospital, of course, in the city. Um, so Temple was already overwhelmed by essentially an ever growing area of coverage, and that didn't make any things better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so let's- just looking at the time from, like, when you first heard about it to when it really started to hit, like can you tell me about how you felt?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh, Like I said, it was just kind of a thing that was in the background that I wasn't thinking too heavily about. And of course, until it actually hit, everyone was kind of just ‘meh’ about it, including myself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But did you think it was going to be a problem?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34867844010000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't think it was going to be what it became."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I said, any time we've had an issue like this arise in the past, it's always been dealt with incredibly well. But due to changes in administration and those in power, it wasn't taken care of the way it should have been. Granted just with how large of a scale it was on the global stage. It was going to hit the US shores regardless.\n\nThere was going be no way around that. But I think it could have been handled a bit better by the administration who was in power at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The federal."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. On a federal level."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you think- You think it was just going to- you thought it was just going to be a matter of time."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38742048900000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I said, any time we've had an issue like this arise in the past, it's always been dealt with incredibly well. But due to changes in administration and those in power, it wasn't taken care of the way it should have been. Granted just with how large of a scale it was on the global stage. It was going to hit the US shores regardless.\n\nThere was going be no way around that. But I think it could have been handled a bit better by the administration who was in power at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The federal."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. On a federal level."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you think- You think it was just going to- you thought it was just going to be a matter of time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I thought it was going to be. I thought it was. I never thought it was going to be... I never thought it was going to change my daily ongoings. I never thought it was going to be that severe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other follow up question did I have… were you surprised?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43046721000000016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. On a federal level."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you think- You think it was just going to- you thought it was just going to be a matter of time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I thought it was going to be. I thought it was. I never thought it was going to be... I never thought it was going to change my daily ongoings. I never thought it was going to be that severe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other follow up question did I have… were you surprised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'd say I was. Like when they first initially announced the US lockdowns, I was like, Oh, okay, this is a thing that's happening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you working that night?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I thought it was going to be. I thought it was. I never thought it was going to be... I never thought it was going to change my daily ongoings. I never thought it was going to be that severe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other follow up question did I have… were you surprised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'd say I was. Like when they first initially announced the US lockdowns, I was like, Oh, okay, this is a thing that's happening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you working that night?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't remember. I don't remember where I was when they first announced the lockdowns."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't remember?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'd say I was. Like when they first initially announced the US lockdowns, I was like, Oh, okay, this is a thing that's happening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you working that night?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't remember. I don't remember where I was when they first announced the lockdowns."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't remember?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't remember where I was when they first initially announced them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But did did you talk about this with anyone on the on the truck?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't remember. I don't remember where I was when they first announced the lockdowns."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't remember?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't remember where I was when they first initially announced them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But did did you talk about this with anyone on the on the truck?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, that was a topic of conversation because like I said, everyone's daily life was massively disrupted. People had to adjust. Schools were shut down, so that affected a lot of people. People couldn't do the activities that they grown to, you know, essentially do on a daily basis to kind of keep them sane."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember what those conversations were like?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, that was a topic of conversation because like I said, everyone's daily life was massively disrupted. People had to adjust. Schools were shut down, so that affected a lot of people. People couldn't do the activities that they grown to, you know, essentially do on a daily basis to kind of keep them sane."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember what those conversations were like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A lot of annoyance, a lot of anger, a lot of confusion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Confusion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. We… we as a collective, never got like anything like this in our lives before. And we had massive issues, but nothing like this.\n\nThis is this essentially affected every facet of life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK that’s really it actually. I have a few follow up questions. these interviews are really variable in length because some people really like to talk."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A lot of annoyance, a lot of anger, a lot of confusion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Confusion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. We… we as a collective, never got like anything like this in our lives before. And we had massive issues, but nothing like this.\n\nThis is this essentially affected every facet of life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK that’s really it actually. I have a few follow up questions. these interviews are really variable in length because some people really like to talk."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Gotcha."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you ever feel, um. You ever feel scared at any point, like before, Like before, like late March?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. We… we as a collective, never got like anything like this in our lives before. And we had massive issues, but nothing like this.\n\nThis is this essentially affected every facet of life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK that’s really it actually. I have a few follow up questions. these interviews are really variable in length because some people really like to talk."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Gotcha."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you ever feel, um. You ever feel scared at any point, like before, Like before, like late March?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What area do you work in of [city]."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Gotcha."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you ever feel, um. You ever feel scared at any point, like before, Like before, like late March?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What area do you work in of [city]."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[neighborhood]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right, so, um, so you covered this before. Um, so what would you like to tell me about how you were feeling in early 2020?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What area do you work in of [city]."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[neighborhood]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right, so, um, so you covered this before. Um, so what would you like to tell me about how you were feeling in early 2020?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'd say me in early 2020… Just like anything else in life, I kind of just deal with things as they go. There's no time for irrational thinking. So it was kind of just, listen to... Well, for me. I understood the fact that since we were actively dealing with an issue that we have not dealt with before, it's a new disease process.\n\nThey don't know what they're looking at, what signs and symptoms to look forward. They don't know how to properly treat it. So I knew that information was constantly going to be changing. As time went on, I knew that treatments were going to change. I knew signs and symptoms are going to change. I knew everything was just going to be in constant flux.\n\nSo I kept reminding myself of that. So when one day they're like, Hey, we're looking for respiratory related signs and symptoms to, Hey, now these people have a lot of GI issues. And so on and so forth. I just knew that essentially that could be either cause of the virus mutating or just the fact that we're dealing with something so new.\n\nYou're getting information from so many different data points that the essential assumption, whole algorithm is going to constantly be changing. So for me, I always dealt with things and tried to remain as adaptive as possible. So that's another reason why I didn't necessarily feel one way or another, or feel like some severe emotional distress in regards of this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you handle that uncertainty?"}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[neighborhood]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right, so, um, so you covered this before. Um, so what would you like to tell me about how you were feeling in early 2020?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'd say me in early 2020… Just like anything else in life, I kind of just deal with things as they go. There's no time for irrational thinking. So it was kind of just, listen to... Well, for me. I understood the fact that since we were actively dealing with an issue that we have not dealt with before, it's a new disease process.\n\nThey don't know what they're looking at, what signs and symptoms to look forward. They don't know how to properly treat it. So I knew that information was constantly going to be changing. As time went on, I knew that treatments were going to change. I knew signs and symptoms are going to change. I knew everything was just going to be in constant flux.\n\nSo I kept reminding myself of that. So when one day they're like, Hey, we're looking for respiratory related signs and symptoms to, Hey, now these people have a lot of GI issues. And so on and so forth. I just knew that essentially that could be either cause of the virus mutating or just the fact that we're dealing with something so new.\n\nYou're getting information from so many different data points that the essential assumption, whole algorithm is going to constantly be changing. So for me, I always dealt with things and tried to remain as adaptive as possible. So that's another reason why I didn't necessarily feel one way or another, or feel like some severe emotional distress in regards of this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you handle that uncertainty?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The uncertainty?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The uncertainty, yeah."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'd say me in early 2020… Just like anything else in life, I kind of just deal with things as they go. There's no time for irrational thinking. So it was kind of just, listen to... Well, for me. I understood the fact that since we were actively dealing with an issue that we have not dealt with before, it's a new disease process.\n\nThey don't know what they're looking at, what signs and symptoms to look forward. They don't know how to properly treat it. So I knew that information was constantly going to be changing. As time went on, I knew that treatments were going to change. I knew signs and symptoms are going to change. I knew everything was just going to be in constant flux.\n\nSo I kept reminding myself of that. So when one day they're like, Hey, we're looking for respiratory related signs and symptoms to, Hey, now these people have a lot of GI issues. And so on and so forth. I just knew that essentially that could be either cause of the virus mutating or just the fact that we're dealing with something so new.\n\nYou're getting information from so many different data points that the essential assumption, whole algorithm is going to constantly be changing. So for me, I always dealt with things and tried to remain as adaptive as possible. So that's another reason why I didn't necessarily feel one way or another, or feel like some severe emotional distress in regards of this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you handle that uncertainty?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The uncertainty?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The uncertainty, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It I guess I feel like in the field that I work, there's a lot of uncertainty, as is. There's a lot of just flying by the seat of your pants and just dealing with an issue as it arises."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It makes a lot of sense, actually."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The uncertainty?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The uncertainty, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It I guess I feel like in the field that I work, there's a lot of uncertainty, as is. There's a lot of just flying by the seat of your pants and just dealing with an issue as it arises."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It makes a lot of sense, actually."}, {"role": "user", "content": "How so?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "because more so I've been into I've been doing some interviews and I've interviewed some- you, I've interviewed an emergency medicine doctor and both of both of you have said you know, there's going to be uncertainty. You know what best practice is going to work? Infection control, source control and everything else.\n\nYou kind of deal with it as it comes."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It I guess I feel like in the field that I work, there's a lot of uncertainty, as is. There's a lot of just flying by the seat of your pants and just dealing with an issue as it arises."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It makes a lot of sense, actually."}, {"role": "user", "content": "How so?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "because more so I've been into I've been doing some interviews and I've interviewed some- you, I've interviewed an emergency medicine doctor and both of both of you have said you know, there's going to be uncertainty. You know what best practice is going to work? Infection control, source control and everything else.\n\nYou kind of deal with it as it comes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you two seem to have dealt with this and it seems, that seems to have been a very healthy response. Um, are there any questions that you think I should have asked that I didn't."}]} {"block_id": "covid-19-threshold-00001:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "How so?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "because more so I've been into I've been doing some interviews and I've interviewed some- you, I've interviewed an emergency medicine doctor and both of both of you have said you know, there's going to be uncertainty. You know what best practice is going to work? Infection control, source control and everything else.\n\nYou kind of deal with it as it comes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you two seem to have dealt with this and it seems, that seems to have been a very healthy response. Um, are there any questions that you think I should have asked that I didn't."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, not necessarily. I Think you essentially covered like the mind space of a medical practitioner in early COVID space, which is what matters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And is there anything else that you like to tell me?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00005:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.572764973627118, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Biodiversity offsetting shouldn't, because it is literally a tool to be used within the current system, so, as a tool within planning you must still follow planning rules and regulations and policies first. So, there are areas to believe NPF should be followed in the first instance, followed by a local plans and if all that happens, biodiversity offsetting is a mechanism for dealing with net biodiversity loss if there is any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think it afford species a higher or lower level of protection?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Biodiversity offsetting only covers habitats, so species in my view are kept out of it. Basically there are considered in planning in their own right and that's how we are doing it here. So, you follow the mitigation hierarchy, then if you can't avoid, minimise, only as a last resort should you offset. So license to trash stuff shouldn't happen. If it's happening, then it's going to happen anyway."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah I was speaking to someone about the HS2 project and they were saying and there was some building on ancient woodlands that otherwise should have been protected under regulations."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As with any mining operation next to a SSSI, that is just taken into consideration. HS2 is a major infrastructure project, so has special rules and regulations up towards the EU and government. It falls outside the national policy planning framework. So those national policy frameworks may be mentioned in HS2 and in fact they are. However, it's a different set of rules, so it is unfair to look at biodiversity offsetting in the pilots it's being used in at the moment as a mechanism for HS2, saying that... we are using it to monitor ecological impacts and calculate ecological impacts of HS2, but as you say, how do you deal with irreplaceable habitats? because the system wasn't built for that. I think there is no very high value, HS2 through Natural England have designated that value at 8 - whether that value is correct, I wouldn't like to say."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are you referring to the Defra metric?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00005:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 15.080849970696796, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Biodiversity offsetting only covers habitats, so species in my view are kept out of it. Basically there are considered in planning in their own right and that's how we are doing it here. So, you follow the mitigation hierarchy, then if you can't avoid, minimise, only as a last resort should you offset. So license to trash stuff shouldn't happen. If it's happening, then it's going to happen anyway."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah I was speaking to someone about the HS2 project and they were saying and there was some building on ancient woodlands that otherwise should have been protected under regulations."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As with any mining operation next to a SSSI, that is just taken into consideration. HS2 is a major infrastructure project, so has special rules and regulations up towards the EU and government. It falls outside the national policy planning framework. So those national policy frameworks may be mentioned in HS2 and in fact they are. However, it's a different set of rules, so it is unfair to look at biodiversity offsetting in the pilots it's being used in at the moment as a mechanism for HS2, saying that... we are using it to monitor ecological impacts and calculate ecological impacts of HS2, but as you say, how do you deal with irreplaceable habitats? because the system wasn't built for that. I think there is no very high value, HS2 through Natural England have designated that value at 8 - whether that value is correct, I wouldn't like to say."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are you referring to the Defra metric?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it's too simplistic, what's your perspective of the metric from an ecological basis?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00005:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 13.42316663410755, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As with any mining operation next to a SSSI, that is just taken into consideration. HS2 is a major infrastructure project, so has special rules and regulations up towards the EU and government. It falls outside the national policy planning framework. So those national policy frameworks may be mentioned in HS2 and in fact they are. However, it's a different set of rules, so it is unfair to look at biodiversity offsetting in the pilots it's being used in at the moment as a mechanism for HS2, saying that... we are using it to monitor ecological impacts and calculate ecological impacts of HS2, but as you say, how do you deal with irreplaceable habitats? because the system wasn't built for that. I think there is no very high value, HS2 through Natural England have designated that value at 8 - whether that value is correct, I wouldn't like to say."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "are you referring to the Defra metric?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it's too simplistic, what's your perspective of the metric from an ecological basis?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we're piloted it in Warwickshire for one and a half to two years. We built our system around those metrics and I have 100% confidence in that they work . Those ones that are based on science are sound."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At the moment it's voluntary, but should it be made mandatory for all infrastructure projects? Or should it be scaled up to national or EU Scale?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00005:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.692407371230612, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it's too simplistic, what's your perspective of the metric from an ecological basis?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we're piloted it in Warwickshire for one and a half to two years. We built our system around those metrics and I have 100% confidence in that they work . Those ones that are based on science are sound."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At the moment it's voluntary, but should it be made mandatory for all infrastructure projects? Or should it be scaled up to national or EU Scale?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Urm, it should be made mandatory, on the planning site, because that is what we are planning. Whether they are appropriate for HS2, obviously not. Because HS2 and Natural England have tweeked the metrics that were published to cater for the irreplaceable habitats. So, should it be wound up to international or EU functions, erm, very hard to say, because each nationality of the EU may have their own individual aspects, needs a nd pressures. We're a very small island, so our pressures on land values are different than France or Australia where offsetting is being used."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it difficult in the planning system to integrate vertically to the EU level. With the Natura 2000 network and other regulations at the European level, is it quite hard the integration of UK and EU environmental policy?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00005:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 14.102674856922901, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we're piloted it in Warwickshire for one and a half to two years. We built our system around those metrics and I have 100% confidence in that they work . Those ones that are based on science are sound."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At the moment it's voluntary, but should it be made mandatory for all infrastructure projects? Or should it be scaled up to national or EU Scale?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Urm, it should be made mandatory, on the planning site, because that is what we are planning. Whether they are appropriate for HS2, obviously not. Because HS2 and Natural England have tweeked the metrics that were published to cater for the irreplaceable habitats. So, should it be wound up to international or EU functions, erm, very hard to say, because each nationality of the EU may have their own individual aspects, needs a nd pressures. We're a very small island, so our pressures on land values are different than France or Australia where offsetting is being used."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it difficult in the planning system to integrate vertically to the EU level. With the Natura 2000 network and other regulations at the European level, is it quite hard the integration of UK and EU environmental policy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm a local authority ecologist, so I wouldn't have a clue. So I don't know how you would translate it upwards if you know what I mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does it affect anything at the local level, or is it independent?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00005:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.336305396581, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Urm, it should be made mandatory, on the planning site, because that is what we are planning. Whether they are appropriate for HS2, obviously not. Because HS2 and Natural England have tweeked the metrics that were published to cater for the irreplaceable habitats. So, should it be wound up to international or EU functions, erm, very hard to say, because each nationality of the EU may have their own individual aspects, needs a nd pressures. We're a very small island, so our pressures on land values are different than France or Australia where offsetting is being used."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it difficult in the planning system to integrate vertically to the EU level. With the Natura 2000 network and other regulations at the European level, is it quite hard the integration of UK and EU environmental policy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm a local authority ecologist, so I wouldn't have a clue. So I don't know how you would translate it upwards if you know what I mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does it affect anything at the local level, or is it independent?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "at the local level with the pilot we have looked at the metrics in Warwick and Solihill, so that's what we've done. Here we have been able to implement it very well, in as close to mandatory as you can possibly get and so it is a voluntary scheme nationally, but in Warwickshire and Solihull we are piloting it. We are going to test it properly therefore when all the local authorities have adopted it as a mechanism to determine gain or loss under NPTF and if there is a loss, you have to deal with that loss. Offsetting is an opportunity. So, in that sense it's mandatory."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So going on to equity considerations, when you're undertaken a biodiversity offset do you think compensating the affected communities is always neccessary and practical, because at the moment, it is obviously focused on ecological compensation, but have you had any experience of the community scale compensation, or any scale of remuneration of the community?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00005:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.59589488509, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm a local authority ecologist, so I wouldn't have a clue. So I don't know how you would translate it upwards if you know what I mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does it affect anything at the local level, or is it independent?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "at the local level with the pilot we have looked at the metrics in Warwick and Solihill, so that's what we've done. Here we have been able to implement it very well, in as close to mandatory as you can possibly get and so it is a voluntary scheme nationally, but in Warwickshire and Solihull we are piloting it. We are going to test it properly therefore when all the local authorities have adopted it as a mechanism to determine gain or loss under NPTF and if there is a loss, you have to deal with that loss. Offsetting is an opportunity. So, in that sense it's mandatory."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So going on to equity considerations, when you're undertaken a biodiversity offset do you think compensating the affected communities is always neccessary and practical, because at the moment, it is obviously focused on ecological compensation, but have you had any experience of the community scale compensation, or any scale of remuneration of the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has been raised internationally, of the community of it. If the metrics were to incorporate ecosystem services, then that would naturally bring in culture and community. But that would make it unwildly and too complicated. It is simply a biodiversity tool and that should fit into the biodiversity strategy of that area. So, my philosophy and this is only because it's a 2 year pilot, that biodiversity offsetting is purely annex A to our green infrastructure strategy. It is a mechanism for delivering a bigger picture. If that's understand, it is one small cog in loads of cogs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "so should communities should be thought of in a different sense?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00005:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Frankly, I would probably say no... for many reasons, far too long for this conservation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You're obviously going to know how this has been articulated at a local scale, but how have the cuts affected your job and how you run your everyday life.\n\nSorry, the austerity cuts that are being received that are being received by Defra and local authorities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They hit and are felt. They haven't affected me to greatly on my performance. I still have 11 people, which makes me one of the largest ecology units in the country. I'm surviving at the moment, but still got another 20% of cuts coming, so give me a call in four years time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think there has been a slight emphasis on the EU level, within the context of austerity, the private sector can supplement the cuts and provide offsetting and obviously, this presents a lot of opportunities and risks. I was just wondering, if you could identify those opportunities and risks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well the ecosystem task force was set up to try and engage with that debate and they came forward with some interesting results. They suggest that the private sector of the economy world... On businesses he said consciousness is awakening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there an interest in the financial value of these offsets and whether they can capitalise on them?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00005:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They hit and are felt. They haven't affected me to greatly on my performance. I still have 11 people, which makes me one of the largest ecology units in the country. I'm surviving at the moment, but still got another 20% of cuts coming, so give me a call in four years time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think there has been a slight emphasis on the EU level, within the context of austerity, the private sector can supplement the cuts and provide offsetting and obviously, this presents a lot of opportunities and risks. I was just wondering, if you could identify those opportunities and risks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well the ecosystem task force was set up to try and engage with that debate and they came forward with some interesting results. They suggest that the private sector of the economy world... On businesses he said consciousness is awakening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there an interest in the financial value of these offsets and whether they can capitalise on them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes - from the perspective I've got, from the landowner perspective, a lot of land owners are very interested and positive for biodiversity offsetting as a general philosophy - but the actual delivery of it - timescales of agreements required to deliver offsets, i.e. 30 years or in perpetuity, they have serious concerns over and therefore will be - as a summary of the meeting I just came out of - everyone in the room was in favour of it, but had serious issues about the implementation and how it's going to be done and how many hectares. It will end up being that any application that comes forward will be unviable - they'll be asking too much"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I there a downward pressure on the price of the offsets if there is a market providing them?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00005:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well the ecosystem task force was set up to try and engage with that debate and they came forward with some interesting results. They suggest that the private sector of the economy world... On businesses he said consciousness is awakening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there an interest in the financial value of these offsets and whether they can capitalise on them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes - from the perspective I've got, from the landowner perspective, a lot of land owners are very interested and positive for biodiversity offsetting as a general philosophy - but the actual delivery of it - timescales of agreements required to deliver offsets, i.e. 30 years or in perpetuity, they have serious concerns over and therefore will be - as a summary of the meeting I just came out of - everyone in the room was in favour of it, but had serious issues about the implementation and how it's going to be done and how many hectares. It will end up being that any application that comes forward will be unviable - they'll be asking too much"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I there a downward pressure on the price of the offsets if there is a market providing them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's the thing - as soon as the market sets up, you'll get some cheaper values and some larger values and then it will start equating down as market forces always do. You will get that waving effect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If there is a volatile market?"}]} {"block_id": "biodiversity-offsetting-00005:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes - from the perspective I've got, from the landowner perspective, a lot of land owners are very interested and positive for biodiversity offsetting as a general philosophy - but the actual delivery of it - timescales of agreements required to deliver offsets, i.e. 30 years or in perpetuity, they have serious concerns over and therefore will be - as a summary of the meeting I just came out of - everyone in the room was in favour of it, but had serious issues about the implementation and how it's going to be done and how many hectares. It will end up being that any application that comes forward will be unviable - they'll be asking too much"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I there a downward pressure on the price of the offsets if there is a market providing them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's the thing - as soon as the market sets up, you'll get some cheaper values and some larger values and then it will start equating down as market forces always do. You will get that waving effect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If there is a volatile market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don't know - those market forces are being felt. You need to ensure that there is a market out there that understands market forces and principles and to be quite honest I'm no where thinking at that level at the moment. The Environment Bank has those concerns."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it can be a market and scaled up?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.629334198146922, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mr KI054, a chairman of CCM in Komnyuzi, Misima ward, Sindeni Division, in Handeni district"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, chair I wanted to know for how long you have been in this village"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In general I was born here and I have completed my primary education here also until now I am here at Kibaya"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many years do you have in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aaah I have about 60 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aah… how did you become a leader in this village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.810371331274358, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In general I was born here and I have completed my primary education here also until now I am here at Kibaya"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many years do you have in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aaah I have about 60 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aah… how did you become a leader in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh at the first I was a representative in the village committee and for the second time until now, I become a chairman for the ruling party"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long since you became a leader?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9004125903048421, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aaah I have about 60 years"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aah… how did you become a leader in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh at the first I was a representative in the village committee and for the second time until now, I become a chairman for the ruling party"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long since you became a leader?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aah… for five years I have been a representative in the village committee and for chairman position I am holding since the last election until now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah…what are the major changes you have observe in this village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0004584336720468, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh at the first I was a representative in the village committee and for the second time until now, I become a chairman for the ruling party"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long since you became a leader?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aah… for five years I have been a representative in the village committee and for chairman position I am holding since the last election until now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah…what are the major changes you have observe in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeh the major change I have observe is advancement of education"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh tell me about it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1116204818578297, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aah… for five years I have been a representative in the village committee and for chairman position I am holding since the last election until now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah…what are the major changes you have observe in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeh the major change I have observe is advancement of education"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh tell me about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Currently our education systems has changed, it has improved because our teachers are doing their jobs efficiently"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other changes did you observe?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3723709652565799, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Currently our education systems has changed, it has improved because our teachers are doing their jobs efficiently"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other changes did you observe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Other changes….. May be the lifestyle due to change of the government mandatory systems"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeh … first the community development, most of the people has improved their lifestyle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay… I also wanted to know the rate of wealth people at the family level …is it increasing or decreasing or it is the same?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5248566280628664, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Other changes….. May be the lifestyle due to change of the government mandatory systems"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeh … first the community development, most of the people has improved their lifestyle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay… I also wanted to know the rate of wealth people at the family level …is it increasing or decreasing or it is the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Recently the level of wealth group has increased"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah ... How about the rate of poor household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6942851422920737, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeh … first the community development, most of the people has improved their lifestyle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay… I also wanted to know the rate of wealth people at the family level …is it increasing or decreasing or it is the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Recently the level of wealth group has increased"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah ... How about the rate of poor household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The number of poor households is decreasing a little bit when comparing with the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay… and what do you think are the source of these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.882539046991193, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Recently the level of wealth group has increased"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah ... How about the rate of poor household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The number of poor households is decreasing a little bit when comparing with the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay… and what do you think are the source of these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh … the source of these changes first is the current governmental administration system, and also the population increase has brought some changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does these changes affects the community? …. Example men"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0917100522124366, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The number of poor households is decreasing a little bit when comparing with the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay… and what do you think are the source of these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh … the source of these changes first is the current governmental administration system, and also the population increase has brought some changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does these changes affects the community? …. Example men"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To my experience I think these changes has less effect on us men, because every man is struggling to conduct his activities efficiently to support life, and he is ready for anything"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3241222802360406, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh … the source of these changes first is the current governmental administration system, and also the population increase has brought some changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does these changes affects the community? …. Example men"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To my experience I think these changes has less effect on us men, because every man is struggling to conduct his activities efficiently to support life, and he is ready for anything"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same as women, we all struggle together because we are facing the same challenge in life"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do these changes affect children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.582358089151156, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To my experience I think these changes has less effect on us men, because every man is struggling to conduct his activities efficiently to support life, and he is ready for anything"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same as women, we all struggle together because we are facing the same challenge in life"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do these changes affect children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Recently children are not affected in large extent compare to the past because in the past children failed to get better education due to the higher school fees but after the cancel of school fees by the government now children are going to school freely. Improvement of the health services currently we are getting enough medication compare to the past. So I think children are less affected nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the elders"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8692867657235066, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same as women, we all struggle together because we are facing the same challenge in life"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do these changes affect children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Recently children are not affected in large extent compare to the past because in the past children failed to get better education due to the higher school fees but after the cancel of school fees by the government now children are going to school freely. Improvement of the health services currently we are getting enough medication compare to the past. So I think children are less affected nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the elders"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmm to the elders, think still there are some issues going on bit to the health services I think they are getting something although it’s not satisfactory"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know how these changes bring some effects on the community health."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.1880964063594517, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Recently children are not affected in large extent compare to the past because in the past children failed to get better education due to the higher school fees but after the cancel of school fees by the government now children are going to school freely. Improvement of the health services currently we are getting enough medication compare to the past. So I think children are less affected nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the elders"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmm to the elders, think still there are some issues going on bit to the health services I think they are getting something although it’s not satisfactory"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know how these changes bring some effects on the community health."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Until now I think there are no major changes which has affected the community because nowadays people have changes as we are having toilets of which we did not have in the past and we are also getting good services in the hospitals"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you. Currently what are the major threats which have brought some effect in food security in your community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.43121822928828, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmm to the elders, think still there are some issues going on bit to the health services I think they are getting something although it’s not satisfactory"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know how these changes bring some effects on the community health."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Until now I think there are no major changes which has affected the community because nowadays people have changes as we are having toilets of which we did not have in the past and we are also getting good services in the hospitals"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you. Currently what are the major threats which have brought some effect in food security in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh… extreme hunger… last time we were buying 1kg of maize flour for 1200tsh/=, but the good thing food were available but money was difficult to get as most of the people do not have good sources of income they just depend on cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about market system, were there any issues?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7013535880980886, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Until now I think there are no major changes which has affected the community because nowadays people have changes as we are having toilets of which we did not have in the past and we are also getting good services in the hospitals"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you. Currently what are the major threats which have brought some effect in food security in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh… extreme hunger… last time we were buying 1kg of maize flour for 1200tsh/=, but the good thing food were available but money was difficult to get as most of the people do not have good sources of income they just depend on cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about market system, were there any issues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No there were no issues because everything was available in the market. The main problem was ways of earning income, in this village there are no productive work such as factory or company which is hiring youth or adults"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the decrease of some foods such as oil"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.001503986775654, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh… extreme hunger… last time we were buying 1kg of maize flour for 1200tsh/=, but the good thing food were available but money was difficult to get as most of the people do not have good sources of income they just depend on cattle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about market system, were there any issues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No there were no issues because everything was available in the market. The main problem was ways of earning income, in this village there are no productive work such as factory or company which is hiring youth or adults"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the decrease of some foods such as oil"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no decrease of food or oil; we are facing income crises only"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about water?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2238933186396155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No there were no issues because everything was available in the market. The main problem was ways of earning income, in this village there are no productive work such as factory or company which is hiring youth or adults"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the decrease of some foods such as oil"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no decrease of food or oil; we are facing income crises only"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this village water is still a problem because we do not have specific place where we can get water throughout the year. We are fetching water very far and from the well so there is no guarantee place to obtain safe water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you think are the main cause of that problem?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4709925762662395, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no decrease of food or oil; we are facing income crises only"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this village water is still a problem because we do not have specific place where we can get water throughout the year. We are fetching water very far and from the well so there is no guarantee place to obtain safe water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you think are the main cause of that problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May you repeat?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have said what do you think are the main cause of this problem of water?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.745547306962488, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this village water is still a problem because we do not have specific place where we can get water throughout the year. We are fetching water very far and from the well so there is no guarantee place to obtain safe water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you think are the main cause of that problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May you repeat?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have said what do you think are the main cause of this problem of water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think since our ancestors were using the same water from the well which is salt water and we have tried to the government authorities to provide us with safe drinking water but still they did not provide it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you… Also I would like to know why water is still a major problem in this village"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.050608118847209, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May you repeat?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have said what do you think are the main cause of this problem of water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think since our ancestors were using the same water from the well which is salt water and we have tried to the government authorities to provide us with safe drinking water but still they did not provide it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you… Also I would like to know why water is still a major problem in this village"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think is because in this village we do not have a major river where water flows throughout the year, we only gets enough water during the heavy rain season but after that we go back to our usual wells"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do people overcome the situation of scarcity of food and water in general"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2784534653857875, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think since our ancestors were using the same water from the well which is salt water and we have tried to the government authorities to provide us with safe drinking water but still they did not provide it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay thank you… Also I would like to know why water is still a major problem in this village"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think is because in this village we do not have a major river where water flows throughout the year, we only gets enough water during the heavy rain season but after that we go back to our usual wells"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do people overcome the situation of scarcity of food and water in general"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh due to the recent drought people learnt a lot because earlier we used to get some help from the government but after the announcement of this year that there will be no help from the government, all the people struggled on finding the ways of obtaining food. Also we have learnt that we should store enough food to satisfy all the household needs, if possible enough to pass us though the next harvest if God wish"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What strategies do you take to make sure that the family have enough food throughout the year"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.531614961539764, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think is because in this village we do not have a major river where water flows throughout the year, we only gets enough water during the heavy rain season but after that we go back to our usual wells"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do people overcome the situation of scarcity of food and water in general"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh due to the recent drought people learnt a lot because earlier we used to get some help from the government but after the announcement of this year that there will be no help from the government, all the people struggled on finding the ways of obtaining food. Also we have learnt that we should store enough food to satisfy all the household needs, if possible enough to pass us though the next harvest if God wish"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What strategies do you take to make sure that the family have enough food throughout the year"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aaah… the strategies which we are taking are intercropping, our main crop is maize but we are cultivating other crops such as cowpeas, beans, sunflower so that we can sell to earn income which can support other household needs, aim is to avoid depending on selling maize to obtain money to buy soap, salt or oil. The strategy is to keep enough maize for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes… I wanted to know, what are the basic strategies do you take to make sure that each household has enough food"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.81290551282196, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh due to the recent drought people learnt a lot because earlier we used to get some help from the government but after the announcement of this year that there will be no help from the government, all the people struggled on finding the ways of obtaining food. Also we have learnt that we should store enough food to satisfy all the household needs, if possible enough to pass us though the next harvest if God wish"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What strategies do you take to make sure that the family have enough food throughout the year"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aaah… the strategies which we are taking are intercropping, our main crop is maize but we are cultivating other crops such as cowpeas, beans, sunflower so that we can sell to earn income which can support other household needs, aim is to avoid depending on selling maize to obtain money to buy soap, salt or oil. The strategy is to keep enough maize for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes… I wanted to know, what are the basic strategies do you take to make sure that each household has enough food"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aaah…. I think first I you have enough land for cultivation and prepared enough cash crops which I have mentioned also when you have high income those will be major ways of getting enough food because when you do not have cattle and crops for selling you will not store some food because you will be in need of money so you have to sell some of your food to earn money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeh… but you didn’t tell me exactly the strategy which you’re taking to keep food"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.472722855335753, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aaah…. I think first I you have enough land for cultivation and prepared enough cash crops which I have mentioned also when you have high income those will be major ways of getting enough food because when you do not have cattle and crops for selling you will not store some food because you will be in need of money so you have to sell some of your food to earn money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeh… but you didn’t tell me exactly the strategy which you’re taking to keep food"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Strategy like a place to store food?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh…we only put maize in the bags with pesticides and store"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who do you think are most vulnerable group to the food insecurity?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.858580950373059, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Strategy like a place to store food?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh…we only put maize in the bags with pesticides and store"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who do you think are most vulnerable group to the food insecurity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think children and women are the most vulnerable group because they are staying at home waiting for the food to be brought by the fathers’"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you say women and children are the most vulnerable group?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.2873121670811765, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh…we only put maize in the bags with pesticides and store"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who do you think are most vulnerable group to the food insecurity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think children and women are the most vulnerable group because they are staying at home waiting for the food to be brought by the fathers’"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you say women and children are the most vulnerable group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It because we men are doing more labor works that women and in the far places which you cannot take the children, and when you are going to work you need to live something at home because if you don’t those who remained will suffer from hunger, and their where you go to work you will get water and food so you won’t get the same effect compare to those who remained at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you think should be done to overcome the situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.763680185645751, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think children and women are the most vulnerable group because they are staying at home waiting for the food to be brought by the fathers’"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you say women and children are the most vulnerable group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It because we men are doing more labor works that women and in the far places which you cannot take the children, and when you are going to work you need to live something at home because if you don’t those who remained will suffer from hunger, and their where you go to work you will get water and food so you won’t get the same effect compare to those who remained at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you think should be done to overcome the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First improvement of agriculture system, diversification of crop production so that people can sell other crops and keep the maize for food, the money obtained can be used to buy cows or goats"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay… also how does water being useful to reduce the scarcity of food and hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.292977984050834, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It because we men are doing more labor works that women and in the far places which you cannot take the children, and when you are going to work you need to live something at home because if you don’t those who remained will suffer from hunger, and their where you go to work you will get water and food so you won’t get the same effect compare to those who remained at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you think should be done to overcome the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First improvement of agriculture system, diversification of crop production so that people can sell other crops and keep the maize for food, the money obtained can be used to buy cows or goats"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay… also how does water being useful to reduce the scarcity of food and hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When having water can help in cultivating some of the crops during the dry season as the irrigation system can be implemented and that help to reduce food scarcity. With water present you can cultivate tomatoes, onions and other different vegetables that you can sell and earn income to satisfy household needs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah… we are now moving to the second part of changes of livelihood and responsibilities. Last year in February we came here and heard in different household that there are some changes of weather patterns from one season to another. What do you think are the source of these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.881086648945371, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First improvement of agriculture system, diversification of crop production so that people can sell other crops and keep the maize for food, the money obtained can be used to buy cows or goats"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay… also how does water being useful to reduce the scarcity of food and hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When having water can help in cultivating some of the crops during the dry season as the irrigation system can be implemented and that help to reduce food scarcity. With water present you can cultivate tomatoes, onions and other different vegetables that you can sell and earn income to satisfy household needs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaah… we are now moving to the second part of changes of livelihood and responsibilities. Last year in February we came here and heard in different household that there are some changes of weather patterns from one season to another. What do you think are the source of these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh… I think these changes need lots of technical knowledge because changes cannot occur in the household it occurs all over due to the change of climatic condition"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright…and what are the climatic changes did you observe in this community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.260600801167124, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh… I think these changes need lots of technical knowledge because changes cannot occur in the household it occurs all over due to the change of climatic condition"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright…and what are the climatic changes did you observe in this community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh the climatic changes which I have observed in this community are three different types of fever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh….."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Malaria, UTI and Typhoid, those are the major changes which I have observed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Other major changes which you have observed perhaps changes of rain seasons"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.067334223519026, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh the climatic changes which I have observed in this community are three different types of fever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh….."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Malaria, UTI and Typhoid, those are the major changes which I have observed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Other major changes which you have observed perhaps changes of rain seasons"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like this year there were heavy rains which did not affect the community but last year there were extreme hot weather which made most of people uncomfortable to sleep at night"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when do these changes occur?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 7.852593581687808, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Malaria, UTI and Typhoid, those are the major changes which I have observed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Other major changes which you have observed perhaps changes of rain seasons"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like this year there were heavy rains which did not affect the community but last year there were extreme hot weather which made most of people uncomfortable to sleep at night"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when do these changes occur?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Normally is around October to February"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmh… may you explain to me clearly about these climatic changes"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.280659535208675, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like this year there were heavy rains which did not affect the community but last year there were extreme hot weather which made most of people uncomfortable to sleep at night"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when do these changes occur?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Normally is around October to February"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmh… may you explain to me clearly about these climatic changes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeheehee…. In the past there was a guarantee that in every February the rain starts up to March, April, May and June but recently things are changes; you might expect that the rain will come but it won’t"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeh… and how does these changes occurs for past five to ten years back?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.756288372454083, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Normally is around October to February"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmh… may you explain to me clearly about these climatic changes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeheehee…. In the past there was a guarantee that in every February the rain starts up to March, April, May and June but recently things are changes; you might expect that the rain will come but it won’t"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeh… and how does these changes occurs for past five to ten years back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To that point I think it needed some experiences climatic expertise to explain what the reasons for these changes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aah… perhaps in this area what is the situation"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0625426360600927, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeheehee…. In the past there was a guarantee that in every February the rain starts up to March, April, May and June but recently things are changes; you might expect that the rain will come but it won’t"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeh… and how does these changes occurs for past five to ten years back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To that point I think it needed some experiences climatic expertise to explain what the reasons for these changes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aah… perhaps in this area what is the situation"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh!! to this area …. things have changed because in the past for about three years we were having enough food due to moderate rainfall but other three years you might experience extreme drought,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How these changes do affect the community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.402825151177881, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To that point I think it needed some experiences climatic expertise to explain what the reasons for these changes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aah… perhaps in this area what is the situation"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh!! to this area …. things have changed because in the past for about three years we were having enough food due to moderate rainfall but other three years you might experience extreme drought,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How these changes do affect the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These changes affected us because we are farmers when we failed to get only one season of rain it affects us generally, because we cannot rely on any other thing as the chicken, goats, cows are all affected due to lack of enough water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about in the environment"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7809168346420896, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh!! to this area …. things have changed because in the past for about three years we were having enough food due to moderate rainfall but other three years you might experience extreme drought,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How these changes do affect the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These changes affected us because we are farmers when we failed to get only one season of rain it affects us generally, because we cannot rely on any other thing as the chicken, goats, cows are all affected due to lack of enough water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about in the environment"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The environment becomes so destructed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about grazing areas"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.201018705157877, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These changes affected us because we are farmers when we failed to get only one season of rain it affects us generally, because we cannot rely on any other thing as the chicken, goats, cows are all affected due to lack of enough water"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about in the environment"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The environment becomes so destructed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about grazing areas"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also to the grazing areas everything become super destructed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about water availability"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.6677985612865305, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The environment becomes so destructed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about grazing areas"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also to the grazing areas everything become super destructed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about water availability"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It also become so difficult, you might find and area which is so empty without grass and water…. Everything becomes dry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does the household livelihood looks like?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.1864428458739225, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also to the grazing areas everything become super destructed"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about water availability"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It also become so difficult, you might find and area which is so empty without grass and water…. Everything becomes dry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does the household livelihood looks like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh it depends with the head of that household…. Because every household head has his own ways of ruling his home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, how does the household head manage the situation associated to different changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.762714273193247, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It also become so difficult, you might find and area which is so empty without grass and water…. Everything becomes dry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does the household livelihood looks like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh it depends with the head of that household…. Because every household head has his own ways of ruling his home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, how does the household head manage the situation associated to different changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First it depend with the agreement between the household members because to overcome any situation it needed good compromise"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any cooperation between people in doing different activities, example working together to support each other in production issues"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.403015859103607, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh it depends with the head of that household…. Because every household head has his own ways of ruling his home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, how does the household head manage the situation associated to different changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First it depend with the agreement between the household members because to overcome any situation it needed good compromise"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any cooperation between people in doing different activities, example working together to support each other in production issues"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mh!! Currently we don’t have because each family works so hard to satisfy their needs but in the past I can say there was a little bit of some cooperation between people from the same clan."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If it happens that there are some major climatic changes what are the activities which people might perform to earn money for their needs?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.114462065670674, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First it depend with the agreement between the household members because to overcome any situation it needed good compromise"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any cooperation between people in doing different activities, example working together to support each other in production issues"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mh!! Currently we don’t have because each family works so hard to satisfy their needs but in the past I can say there was a little bit of some cooperation between people from the same clan."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If it happens that there are some major climatic changes what are the activities which people might perform to earn money for their needs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh … I think there are no joint activities which will be conducted"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about individually"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.904957850745193, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mh!! Currently we don’t have because each family works so hard to satisfy their needs but in the past I can say there was a little bit of some cooperation between people from the same clan."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If it happens that there are some major climatic changes what are the activities which people might perform to earn money for their needs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh … I think there are no joint activities which will be conducted"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about individually"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh individually, lots can be done because you might find a person selling charcoal, fire wood, and other activities"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the pastoralist"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.672175389716881, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh … I think there are no joint activities which will be conducted"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about individually"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh individually, lots can be done because you might find a person selling charcoal, fire wood, and other activities"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the pastoralist"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You might find him shifting for place to place and here at Kibaya most of them moved to Kilindi"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the number of cattle they keep"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.413528210796534, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh individually, lots can be done because you might find a person selling charcoal, fire wood, and other activities"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the pastoralist"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You might find him shifting for place to place and here at Kibaya most of them moved to Kilindi"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the number of cattle they keep"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depend with the number of cows a person has, example Maasai they have a plenty of cows, so most of the time the youth shift from one place to another but elders and women remain at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what types of crops are you grow when there are extreme changes of weather patterns"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 8.237253567551704, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You might find him shifting for place to place and here at Kibaya most of them moved to Kilindi"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the number of cattle they keep"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depend with the number of cows a person has, example Maasai they have a plenty of cows, so most of the time the youth shift from one place to another but elders and women remain at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what types of crops are you grow when there are extreme changes of weather patterns"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we were growing sorghum, cassava and potatoes but currently most of them have disappeared but last year we started to grow cassava, and all was due to extreme drought"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where does the non-pastoralist earning their income"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 5.819170630613003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depend with the number of cows a person has, example Maasai they have a plenty of cows, so most of the time the youth shift from one place to another but elders and women remain at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what types of crops are you grow when there are extreme changes of weather patterns"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we were growing sorghum, cassava and potatoes but currently most of them have disappeared but last year we started to grow cassava, and all was due to extreme drought"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where does the non-pastoralist earning their income"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of them depend on selling charcoal and firewood but for those who failed to do so they may move to Tanga or Muheza and Lushoto for other labor works"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about the changes of milk availability"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.021300700681115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we were growing sorghum, cassava and potatoes but currently most of them have disappeared but last year we started to grow cassava, and all was due to extreme drought"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where does the non-pastoralist earning their income"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of them depend on selling charcoal and firewood but for those who failed to do so they may move to Tanga or Muheza and Lushoto for other labor works"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about the changes of milk availability"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is available from March when there is good climatic condition similar to this year up to September, October, November and December"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when exactly do you get maximum milk production"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1347785563123498, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of them depend on selling charcoal and firewood but for those who failed to do so they may move to Tanga or Muheza and Lushoto for other labor works"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about the changes of milk availability"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is available from March when there is good climatic condition similar to this year up to September, October, November and December"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when exactly do you get maximum milk production"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get maximum production from May to August and started to decrease from September when the drought start up to December when there is no milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeh so what major changes usually occur when there are changes of climate in milk availability"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2608650625692774, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is available from March when there is good climatic condition similar to this year up to September, October, November and December"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when exactly do you get maximum milk production"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get maximum production from May to August and started to decrease from September when the drought start up to December when there is no milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeh so what major changes usually occur when there are changes of climate in milk availability"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First when cattle lack water and enough feeds there are no milk, mostly during the extreme drought season"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does the role and responsibilities of men and women change when there are occurrence of different calamities"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4009611806325304, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We get maximum production from May to August and started to decrease from September when the drought start up to December when there is no milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeh so what major changes usually occur when there are changes of climate in milk availability"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First when cattle lack water and enough feeds there are no milk, mostly during the extreme drought season"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does the role and responsibilities of men and women change when there are occurrence of different calamities"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depend with the time of calamity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Example the shortage of rainfall what type of activities do women perform"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.556623534036145, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First when cattle lack water and enough feeds there are no milk, mostly during the extreme drought season"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does the role and responsibilities of men and women change when there are occurrence of different calamities"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depend with the time of calamity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Example the shortage of rainfall what type of activities do women perform"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this situation most of women do not have much to do but they may go to fetch water in the wells and selling to the food venders"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about men"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7295817044846054, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depend with the time of calamity"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Example the shortage of rainfall what type of activities do women perform"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this situation most of women do not have much to do but they may go to fetch water in the wells and selling to the food venders"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about men"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men are selling charcoal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know if it happen that their some climatic change, who in this area has more activities than others"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9217574494273393, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this situation most of women do not have much to do but they may go to fetch water in the wells and selling to the food venders"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about men"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men are selling charcoal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know if it happen that their some climatic change, who in this area has more activities than others"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we are conducting similar activities because of the changes of lifestyle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would also like to know in the presence of climatic changes does the conflict increase or decrease"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.135286054919266, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men are selling charcoal"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know if it happen that their some climatic change, who in this area has more activities than others"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we are conducting similar activities because of the changes of lifestyle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would also like to know in the presence of climatic changes does the conflict increase or decrease"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Normally the conflict happen during the dry season and it’s among the farmers and pastoralist because you might find some of the pastoralist takes their cattle to farms while those farms has never been grazed before hence conflict arises"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the conflict situation when the pastoralist moved to the far areas for grazing"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.3725400610214065, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we are conducting similar activities because of the changes of lifestyle"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would also like to know in the presence of climatic changes does the conflict increase or decrease"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Normally the conflict happen during the dry season and it’s among the farmers and pastoralist because you might find some of the pastoralist takes their cattle to farms while those farms has never been grazed before hence conflict arises"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the conflict situation when the pastoralist moved to the far areas for grazing"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When their moved to far areas there are some conflicts along the ways because they are taking large herd of cattle which sometimes is difficult to manage but after that there are no conflict because they are moved to far places outside of this community"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about when moved to the water sources"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5250445122460075, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Normally the conflict happen during the dry season and it’s among the farmers and pastoralist because you might find some of the pastoralist takes their cattle to farms while those farms has never been grazed before hence conflict arises"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the conflict situation when the pastoralist moved to the far areas for grazing"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When their moved to far areas there are some conflicts along the ways because they are taking large herd of cattle which sometimes is difficult to manage but after that there are no conflict because they are moved to far places outside of this community"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about when moved to the water sources"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh when moved to the water sources such as Ruvu river there are no conflict because the river is large and has plenty of water to sustain everyone needs but when moved to the small wells and ditches which most of the villagers used to fetch water, conflict may arise because water will be not enough for cattle and human"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you think this conflict should be minimized"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6944939024955639, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When their moved to far areas there are some conflicts along the ways because they are taking large herd of cattle which sometimes is difficult to manage but after that there are no conflict because they are moved to far places outside of this community"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about when moved to the water sources"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh when moved to the water sources such as Ruvu river there are no conflict because the river is large and has plenty of water to sustain everyone needs but when moved to the small wells and ditches which most of the villagers used to fetch water, conflict may arise because water will be not enough for cattle and human"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you think this conflict should be minimized"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh may be when we increase the number of wells but still is not enough to control all the conflicts"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do people overcome the scarcity of food and milk"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8827710027728486, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh when moved to the water sources such as Ruvu river there are no conflict because the river is large and has plenty of water to sustain everyone needs but when moved to the small wells and ditches which most of the villagers used to fetch water, conflict may arise because water will be not enough for cattle and human"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you think this conflict should be minimized"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh may be when we increase the number of wells but still is not enough to control all the conflicts"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do people overcome the scarcity of food and milk"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh… the scarcity of food and milk is due to lack of grasses and drought and there is no way out to overcome it…. Laughing….."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which coping strategies do people take to overcome the situation of food and milk scarcity due to extreme drought"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0919677808587207, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh may be when we increase the number of wells but still is not enough to control all the conflicts"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do people overcome the scarcity of food and milk"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh… the scarcity of food and milk is due to lack of grasses and drought and there is no way out to overcome it…. Laughing….."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which coping strategies do people take to overcome the situation of food and milk scarcity due to extreme drought"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is why most of the pastoralist shifts from one place to another so as to get enough feeds for their cattle in order to improve milk production and cattle’s health for better prices. The obtained money will be used for food purchasing even when there is scarcity of milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh… we are moved to the other part….how does the livelihood system change in this community… example ways of managing the herds"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3244086453985786, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh… the scarcity of food and milk is due to lack of grasses and drought and there is no way out to overcome it…. Laughing….."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which coping strategies do people take to overcome the situation of food and milk scarcity due to extreme drought"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is why most of the pastoralist shifts from one place to another so as to get enough feeds for their cattle in order to improve milk production and cattle’s health for better prices. The obtained money will be used for food purchasing even when there is scarcity of milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh… we are moved to the other part….how does the livelihood system change in this community… example ways of managing the herds"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh it depends when you are having large number of herds the management is difficult but when having a small number of cattle like ten cows the management is easy as the expertise emphasize on zero grazing to you will be possible, also you will maintain the hygiene and having a reserved area for feeding"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about to the farm area"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.582676272665087, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is why most of the pastoralist shifts from one place to another so as to get enough feeds for their cattle in order to improve milk production and cattle’s health for better prices. The obtained money will be used for food purchasing even when there is scarcity of milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh… we are moved to the other part….how does the livelihood system change in this community… example ways of managing the herds"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh it depends when you are having large number of herds the management is difficult but when having a small number of cattle like ten cows the management is easy as the expertise emphasize on zero grazing to you will be possible, also you will maintain the hygiene and having a reserved area for feeding"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about to the farm area"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To the farm you need to use the advanced agricultural method and follow the advice from the expertise"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmh… are there any other activities which people are involved in apart from farming and livestock keeping"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.869640302961208, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh it depends when you are having large number of herds the management is difficult but when having a small number of cattle like ten cows the management is easy as the expertise emphasize on zero grazing to you will be possible, also you will maintain the hygiene and having a reserved area for feeding"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about to the farm area"}, {"role": "user", "content": "To the farm you need to use the advanced agricultural method and follow the advice from the expertise"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmh… are there any other activities which people are involved in apart from farming and livestock keeping"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes … we have people who are selling charcoal, firewood, food vendors, fruit vendors and other small business"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May you explain more to that context?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1884892255124533, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To the farm you need to use the advanced agricultural method and follow the advice from the expertise"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmh… are there any other activities which people are involved in apart from farming and livestock keeping"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes … we have people who are selling charcoal, firewood, food vendors, fruit vendors and other small business"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May you explain more to that context?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You might find a pastoralist sells two or three of his cows to buy maize but after some time he may buy two calves and moved on with his life"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does this changes brought positive or negative effects towards the community"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.542765806124948, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes … we have people who are selling charcoal, firewood, food vendors, fruit vendors and other small business"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May you explain more to that context?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You might find a pastoralist sells two or three of his cows to buy maize but after some time he may buy two calves and moved on with his life"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does this changes brought positive or negative effects towards the community"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they have brought some good impression to the society because when cropping we get enough food and when selling some cows we get money to sustain our other needs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With your thought what are the source of these changes"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.825295340138831, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You might find a pastoralist sells two or three of his cows to buy maize but after some time he may buy two calves and moved on with his life"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does this changes brought positive or negative effects towards the community"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they have brought some good impression to the society because when cropping we get enough food and when selling some cows we get money to sustain our other needs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With your thought what are the source of these changes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh I think is because of advice provided by the expertise; they brought new knowledge which changes the community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in the education area"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.139217044598701, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they have brought some good impression to the society because when cropping we get enough food and when selling some cows we get money to sustain our other needs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With your thought what are the source of these changes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh I think is because of advice provided by the expertise; they brought new knowledge which changes the community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in the education area"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh… nowadays children gets better education because our teachers’ taught well and when they pass they pass due to their efforts it’s not plagiarism"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about changes of traditions and norms"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4880189384430014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh I think is because of advice provided by the expertise; they brought new knowledge which changes the community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in the education area"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh… nowadays children gets better education because our teachers’ taught well and when they pass they pass due to their efforts it’s not plagiarism"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about changes of traditions and norms"}, {"role": "user", "content": "…there are lots of changes, nowadays most of the norms and cultural practices has disappeared such as traditional dance and songs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you think are the reason for these changes"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8755765982700012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh… nowadays children gets better education because our teachers’ taught well and when they pass they pass due to their efforts it’s not plagiarism"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about changes of traditions and norms"}, {"role": "user", "content": "…there are lots of changes, nowadays most of the norms and cultural practices has disappeared such as traditional dance and songs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you think are the reason for these changes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think is due to the advancement of technology and globalization because currently in the ceremonies people plays New modern songs instead of traditional songs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any conflicts brought by immigrants"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.306196220300001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "…there are lots of changes, nowadays most of the norms and cultural practices has disappeared such as traditional dance and songs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you think are the reason for these changes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think is due to the advancement of technology and globalization because currently in the ceremonies people plays New modern songs instead of traditional songs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any conflicts brought by immigrants"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh they used to be their but now we don’t have it because most of the people nowadays have been educated and settled to the lands which they bought"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the reasons for changes of women roles and responsibility in the household because women used to do household chores and small business. What do you think are the reasons for these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.784662467000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think is due to the advancement of technology and globalization because currently in the ceremonies people plays New modern songs instead of traditional songs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any conflicts brought by immigrants"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh they used to be their but now we don’t have it because most of the people nowadays have been educated and settled to the lands which they bought"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the reasons for changes of women roles and responsibility in the household because women used to do household chores and small business. What do you think are the reasons for these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past women were not going to school but nowadays they are which made some major improvement to them and in the community because they have the power to perform similar work with men such as different works in the offices. Example you might have six or seven female children in your home but all of them might not do any household chores such as grazing due to schooling. In general this has brought major changes in women role"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think are the effects of these changes in the household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.316291630000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh they used to be their but now we don’t have it because most of the people nowadays have been educated and settled to the lands which they bought"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the reasons for changes of women roles and responsibility in the household because women used to do household chores and small business. What do you think are the reasons for these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past women were not going to school but nowadays they are which made some major improvement to them and in the community because they have the power to perform similar work with men such as different works in the offices. Example you might have six or seven female children in your home but all of them might not do any household chores such as grazing due to schooling. In general this has brought major changes in women role"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think are the effects of these changes in the household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Until now I think there are no effects in the family because these changes bought some development"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the past you said women were doing different household chore but nowadays most of the activities has decreased due to education, now what is the effect resulted to these changes example change of children health, family income and meals"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.9069907000000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past women were not going to school but nowadays they are which made some major improvement to them and in the community because they have the power to perform similar work with men such as different works in the offices. Example you might have six or seven female children in your home but all of them might not do any household chores such as grazing due to schooling. In general this has brought major changes in women role"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think are the effects of these changes in the household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Until now I think there are no effects in the family because these changes bought some development"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the past you said women were doing different household chore but nowadays most of the activities has decreased due to education, now what is the effect resulted to these changes example change of children health, family income and meals"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeh.. during the past the family income was still low because most of them were not educated but nowadays most of the women are educated so they are doing their activities with higher knowledge….if they cultivate they do it efficiently due to education, if they prepare food it also perfect, so they are some benefits of taking women to school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright we now shift to the next part of changes of intercommunity.., I know there are high rate of migration between people, some moved in and some moved out. What can you say about that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.563323000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Until now I think there are no effects in the family because these changes bought some development"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the past you said women were doing different household chore but nowadays most of the activities has decreased due to education, now what is the effect resulted to these changes example change of children health, family income and meals"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeh.. during the past the family income was still low because most of them were not educated but nowadays most of the women are educated so they are doing their activities with higher knowledge….if they cultivate they do it efficiently due to education, if they prepare food it also perfect, so they are some benefits of taking women to school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright we now shift to the next part of changes of intercommunity.., I know there are high rate of migration between people, some moved in and some moved out. What can you say about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh in this village we don’t have that situation of people moved out and in, may be they move to near place for small activities and then coming back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can you say about the increasing of population rate in this community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.181470000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeh.. during the past the family income was still low because most of them were not educated but nowadays most of the women are educated so they are doing their activities with higher knowledge….if they cultivate they do it efficiently due to education, if they prepare food it also perfect, so they are some benefits of taking women to school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright we now shift to the next part of changes of intercommunity.., I know there are high rate of migration between people, some moved in and some moved out. What can you say about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh in this village we don’t have that situation of people moved out and in, may be they move to near place for small activities and then coming back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can you say about the increasing of population rate in this community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh, some of the people from different tribes moved in and the birth rate also increase although is not that much, I think that the only way of population increase in this community"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the changes brought by them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 6.8683000000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh in this village we don’t have that situation of people moved out and in, may be they move to near place for small activities and then coming back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can you say about the increasing of population rate in this community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh, some of the people from different tribes moved in and the birth rate also increase although is not that much, I think that the only way of population increase in this community"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the changes brought by them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no major changes because they came with the same ideas"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which tribes are migrating to this area?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.1870000000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh, some of the people from different tribes moved in and the birth rate also increase although is not that much, I think that the only way of population increase in this community"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the changes brought by them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no major changes because they came with the same ideas"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which tribes are migrating to this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sandawe, Mang’ati , Mbulu and Waarusha."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are they moved to this area?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.43, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no major changes because they came with the same ideas"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which tribes are migrating to this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sandawe, Mang’ati , Mbulu and Waarusha."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are they moved to this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it because of the land like Arusha"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who shift from one place to another?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sandawe, Mang’ati , Mbulu and Waarusha."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are they moved to this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it because of the land like Arusha"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who shift from one place to another?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mang’ati … because some of them did not get land for grazing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do they go to school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 3.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it because of the land like Arusha"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who shift from one place to another?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mang’ati … because some of them did not get land for grazing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do they go to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really… some of them did but few of them. When you talk about Mbulu and Arusha most of their children are going to school because they are having permanent settlement"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any people moved to far places for work?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mang’ati … because some of them did not get land for grazing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do they go to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really… some of them did but few of them. When you talk about Mbulu and Arusha most of their children are going to school because they are having permanent settlement"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any people moved to far places for work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are… some moved to Arusha, Moshi, Mwanza, and Dar es Salaam most especially youth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about those who went for schooling do they come back or stayed there?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really… some of them did but few of them. When you talk about Mbulu and Arusha most of their children are going to school because they are having permanent settlement"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any people moved to far places for work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are… some moved to Arusha, Moshi, Mwanza, and Dar es Salaam most especially youth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about those who went for schooling do they come back or stayed there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are coming back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about youth?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are… some moved to Arusha, Moshi, Mwanza, and Dar es Salaam most especially youth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how about those who went for schooling do they come back or stayed there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are coming back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about youth?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some may come back but some they establish their life to the new places but it depend and what kind of activity a person is conducting as well as the income earned"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these changes affect the community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are coming back"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about youth?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some may come back but some they establish their life to the new places but it depend and what kind of activity a person is conducting as well as the income earned"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these changes affect the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh… somehow it affects the community but for those who went to other places and never coming back but for those who went and come back there are no effect"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about youth of the same age?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some may come back but some they establish their life to the new places but it depend and what kind of activity a person is conducting as well as the income earned"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these changes affect the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh… somehow it affects the community but for those who went to other places and never coming back but for those who went and come back there are no effect"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about youth of the same age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them may be affected such as those who are involved with the use of drugs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the changes which you have received due to the immigration of people in your area?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of them may be affected such as those who are involved with the use of drugs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the changes which you have received due to the immigration of people in your area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh we used to crop one variety but after they have moved here we are practicing intercropping such as cowpeas, maize, beans at one farm, also we were having cows but we did not know how to use them but they have taught as to use them in farming"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also they taught us to do some business which improves our money circulation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when people move to other villages what change do you get in this village"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh we used to crop one variety but after they have moved here we are practicing intercropping such as cowpeas, maize, beans at one farm, also we were having cows but we did not know how to use them but they have taught as to use them in farming"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also they taught us to do some business which improves our money circulation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when people move to other villages what change do you get in this village"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We might get some changes because if your neighbor moved to another village and when your used to him or her you might get some effect of losing a friend"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do people perceive these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also they taught us to do some business which improves our money circulation"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when people move to other villages what change do you get in this village"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We might get some changes because if your neighbor moved to another village and when your used to him or her you might get some effect of losing a friend"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do people perceive these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People perceive that farmers need their land and pastoralist need their land so that each activity should be conducted efficiently without any conflict"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these conflicts happen in this community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We might get some changes because if your neighbor moved to another village and when your used to him or her you might get some effect of losing a friend"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do people perceive these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People perceive that farmers need their land and pastoralist need their land so that each activity should be conducted efficiently without any conflict"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these conflicts happen in this community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These conflicts always happened in the community sometimes they might occur between farmers to farmers when they are fighting for the boundaries, or farmers to pastoralist when they are fighting for crops which the cows ate, or pastoralist to pastoralist when they stole each other’s cows. So conflicts are always there but not so much nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and how does these changes affects the diet patterns of the community…example when the youth leave in the community how does that affect those who remain?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People perceive that farmers need their land and pastoralist need their land so that each activity should be conducted efficiently without any conflict"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do these conflicts happen in this community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These conflicts always happened in the community sometimes they might occur between farmers to farmers when they are fighting for the boundaries, or farmers to pastoralist when they are fighting for crops which the cows ate, or pastoralist to pastoralist when they stole each other’s cows. So conflicts are always there but not so much nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and how does these changes affects the diet patterns of the community…example when the youth leave in the community how does that affect those who remain?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On the contrarily it does affect those who remain because if the youth left their olds’ will fail to get enough food as they are weak to perform productive works"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Whose does that really affect the availability of food"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These conflicts always happened in the community sometimes they might occur between farmers to farmers when they are fighting for the boundaries, or farmers to pastoralist when they are fighting for crops which the cows ate, or pastoralist to pastoralist when they stole each other’s cows. So conflicts are always there but not so much nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and how does these changes affects the diet patterns of the community…example when the youth leave in the community how does that affect those who remain?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On the contrarily it does affect those who remain because if the youth left their olds’ will fail to get enough food as they are weak to perform productive works"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Whose does that really affect the availability of food"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my knowledge the youth are the ones who produce so when they leave the elders becomes unhealthy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From your experience when does the conflicts occurs"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "On the contrarily it does affect those who remain because if the youth left their olds’ will fail to get enough food as they are weak to perform productive works"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Whose does that really affect the availability of food"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my knowledge the youth are the ones who produce so when they leave the elders becomes unhealthy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From your experience when does the conflicts occurs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They happened during the cultivation season, when people are preparing the farms for crop growing… some needed more land while they have less but when it happened the government came and solved it but dividing the land"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How these conflicts do affect the role and responsibility of women and men?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my knowledge the youth are the ones who produce so when they leave the elders becomes unhealthy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From your experience when does the conflicts occurs"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They happened during the cultivation season, when people are preparing the farms for crop growing… some needed more land while they have less but when it happened the government came and solved it but dividing the land"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How these conflicts do affect the role and responsibility of women and men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has some impact because at the time when people needed to work in the field they were in the meeting solving the conflicts which affects food availability."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does the community struggle to fight against these conflicts?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They happened during the cultivation season, when people are preparing the farms for crop growing… some needed more land while they have less but when it happened the government came and solved it but dividing the land"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How these conflicts do affect the role and responsibility of women and men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has some impact because at the time when people needed to work in the field they were in the meeting solving the conflicts which affects food availability."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does the community struggle to fight against these conflicts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have left to the government but for the case of the minor conflicts they are trying to settle with the fighters on both sides"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you for your time since we have started but now I have few questions to wind up."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has some impact because at the time when people needed to work in the field they were in the meeting solving the conflicts which affects food availability."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does the community struggle to fight against these conflicts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have left to the government but for the case of the minor conflicts they are trying to settle with the fighters on both sides"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you for your time since we have started but now I have few questions to wind up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do people learn about food and nutrition for better health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have left to the government but for the case of the minor conflicts they are trying to settle with the fighters on both sides"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you for your time since we have started but now I have few questions to wind up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do people learn about food and nutrition for better health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh I think there is no where they can learn that but for women they get the knowledge at the hospital from the nurses"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How this information can be useful to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmh I think there is no where they can learn that but for women they get the knowledge at the hospital from the nurses"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How this information can be useful to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Information like health eating, good food and nutrition for better health"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeh the information are very good if you heard about it for expertise because when you get them you will take back home and help your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how does the community perceive this information?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00040:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Information like health eating, good food and nutrition for better health"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeh the information are very good if you heard about it for expertise because when you get them you will take back home and help your family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how does the community perceive this information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They receive it happily and with good heart"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and do you have something else to add before winding up?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7813344968622045, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you born in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were you born?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born in Same District…this is where I grew up and started class one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You grew up here up to which age?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.090371663180227, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were you born?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born in Same District…this is where I grew up and started class one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You grew up here up to which age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I grew up here till I moved away (migrated)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You migrated from this village at what age?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.3226351813113633, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born in Same District…this is where I grew up and started class one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You grew up here up to which age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I grew up here till I moved away (migrated)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You migrated from this village at what age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I migrated from this village at the age of 28 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you moved to where?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.469594645901515, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I grew up here till I moved away (migrated)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You migrated from this village at what age?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I migrated from this village at the age of 28 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you moved to where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I migrated to Bagamoyo district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you went there to be married or to look for a job?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6328829398905722, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I migrated from this village at the age of 28 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you moved to where?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I migrated to Bagamoyo district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you went there to be married or to look for a job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. We just migrated to a different location."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, this place is where you migrated to?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8143143776561912, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I migrated to Bagamoyo district."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you went there to be married or to look for a job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. We just migrated to a different location."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, this place is where you migrated to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…it is just this very place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we may go back to those days when you were a girl, what roles did a girl child and boy child play?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9047937529513234, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. We just migrated to a different location."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, this place is where you migrated to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…it is just this very place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we may go back to those days when you were a girl, what roles did a girl child and boy child play?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In those days, we just did household work at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was girl’s role?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.005326392168137, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…it is just this very place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we may go back to those days when you were a girl, what roles did a girl child and boy child play?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In those days, we just did household work at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was girl’s role?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Kindly name them…"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1170293246312633, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In those days, we just did household work at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was girl’s role?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Kindly name them…"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cooking, washing clothes and utensils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those were the responsibilities of a girl child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.241143694034737, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Kindly name them…"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cooking, washing clothes and utensils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those were the responsibilities of a girl child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of fetching water?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3790485489274855, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cooking, washing clothes and utensils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those were the responsibilities of a girl child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of fetching water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…and fetching water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the roles of a male child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.532276165474984, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of fetching water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…and fetching water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the roles of a male child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The role of a male child is to look after cattle (livestock)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now in your family, how many were you born just in total?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.702529072749982, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…and fetching water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the roles of a male child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The role of a male child is to look after cattle (livestock)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now in your family, how many were you born just in total?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot tell."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have those who got educated?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8916989697222022, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The role of a male child is to look after cattle (livestock)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now in your family, how many were you born just in total?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot tell."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have those who got educated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like how many went to school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.10188774413578, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot tell."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have those who got educated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like how many went to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like five."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What does your husband do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5949231409083704, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like five."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What does your husband do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Who?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your husband?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is a farmer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…now lets us talk about food. You said you have stayed here for a long time. Which foods do you mostly like eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.883247934342634, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Who?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your husband?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is a farmer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…now lets us talk about food. You said you have stayed here for a long time. Which foods do you mostly like eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is Ugali with amaranth, beans, milk…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But there is ugali (maize meal)"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.0924977048251487, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is a farmer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…now lets us talk about food. You said you have stayed here for a long time. Which foods do you mostly like eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is Ugali with amaranth, beans, milk…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But there is ugali (maize meal)"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, also Kande, rice and maize is what we cultivate ourselves and therefore I would say we eat varieties of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay but which is your favourite meal?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.10277522758349852, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is Ugali with amaranth, beans, milk…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But there is ugali (maize meal)"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, also Kande, rice and maize is what we cultivate ourselves and therefore I would say we eat varieties of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay but which is your favourite meal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali though in a week we mix ugali, rice, kande…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But one common meal in a week is which one?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.11419469731499836, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, also Kande, rice and maize is what we cultivate ourselves and therefore I would say we eat varieties of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay but which is your favourite meal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali though in a week we mix ugali, rice, kande…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But one common meal in a week is which one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Followed by which meal?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12688299701666483, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali though in a week we mix ugali, rice, kande…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But one common meal in a week is which one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Followed by which meal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is followed by rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is fine. Now if we may talk about those foods that you have mentioned like rice, maize etc.…do you cultivate these crops yourselves?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.14098110779629425, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Followed by which meal?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is followed by rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is fine. Now if we may talk about those foods that you have mentioned like rice, maize etc.…do you cultivate these crops yourselves?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which ones do you buy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.15664567532921583, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is followed by rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is fine. Now if we may talk about those foods that you have mentioned like rice, maize etc.…do you cultivate these crops yourselves?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which ones do you buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say we mostly buy vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is what you mostly buy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.17405075036579537, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which ones do you buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say we mostly buy vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is what you mostly buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not gone short of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.19338972262866153, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say we mostly buy vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is what you mostly buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not gone short of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no…unless when there is shortage of rainfall such that the crops fail to produce well and that is the time we may buy food but otherwise we have never bought food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Otherwise you have never bought food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2148774695874017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not gone short of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "no…unless when there is shortage of rainfall such that the crops fail to produce well and that is the time we may buy food but otherwise we have never bought food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Otherwise you have never bought food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There some of the foods that you go to buy like vegetables …now these foods that you buy, who is the one making decisions of buying them…is it the father, mother or you all decide that because the food is over, let us go and buy or it is just anybody who comes with food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.23875274398600188, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "no…unless when there is shortage of rainfall such that the crops fail to produce well and that is the time we may buy food but otherwise we have never bought food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Otherwise you have never bought food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There some of the foods that you go to buy like vegetables …now these foods that you buy, who is the one making decisions of buying them…is it the father, mother or you all decide that because the food is over, let us go and buy or it is just anybody who comes with food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For instance when there are no vegetables, me as a mother (wife) will tell my husband to give me money to buy vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if he decides to go himself and then buy the vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2652808266511132, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There some of the foods that you go to buy like vegetables …now these foods that you buy, who is the one making decisions of buying them…is it the father, mother or you all decide that because the food is over, let us go and buy or it is just anybody who comes with food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For instance when there are no vegetables, me as a mother (wife) will tell my husband to give me money to buy vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if he decides to go himself and then buy the vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "if he decides to go to the market and then buy, it is well and good but if he gives me the money, I go to the market and buy vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we may go to a different question. We talk of a male or a female grown up child, is there a ceremony that you make to initiate them to adulthood like the Maasai make a traditional dance. Therefore according to you, when you say a female child has grown up to become an adult woman how do you do it or what do you look at in order to acknowledge that she is now a grown-up woman?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.32750719339643597, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "if he decides to go to the market and then buy, it is well and good but if he gives me the money, I go to the market and buy vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now if we may go to a different question. We talk of a male or a female grown up child, is there a ceremony that you make to initiate them to adulthood like the Maasai make a traditional dance. Therefore according to you, when you say a female child has grown up to become an adult woman how do you do it or what do you look at in order to acknowledge that she is now a grown-up woman?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean for a female child growing up to a woman…is that what you mean?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know. I only see they have grown up…but you will see the way her body changing and growing big…it appears just the way we were created by god…."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean her body is growing big and she starts experiencing monthly…."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3638968815515955, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean for a female child growing up to a woman…is that what you mean?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know. I only see they have grown up…but you will see the way her body changing and growing big…it appears just the way we were created by god…."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean her body is growing big and she starts experiencing monthly…."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hahaaa…. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just speak it out. Do not fear."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.40432986839066165, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know. I only see they have grown up…but you will see the way her body changing and growing big…it appears just the way we were created by god…."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean her body is growing big and she starts experiencing monthly…."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hahaaa…. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just speak it out. Do not fear."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…by looking at these, you just know she has come close to being a woman"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…but they say a girl can even experience monthly periods even when she is in class four or five. Is that how it is now days?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4492554093229574, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hahaaa…. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just speak it out. Do not fear."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…by looking at these, you just know she has come close to being a woman"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…but they say a girl can even experience monthly periods even when she is in class four or five. Is that how it is now days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now at what age will she have grown up?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.49917267702550816, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh…by looking at these, you just know she has come close to being a woman"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay…but they say a girl can even experience monthly periods even when she is in class four or five. Is that how it is now days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now at what age will she have grown up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that point when. My bother there some of the things I cannot tell you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No…just explain. Or till she reaches class seven?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5546363078061202, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now at what age will she have grown up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that point when. My bother there some of the things I cannot tell you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No…just explain. Or till she reaches class seven?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know because I do not have a grown-up daughter such that I can tell."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is fine. There is no problem but even though you are a woman too. Didn’t you go through the same process?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6162625642290224, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that point when. My bother there some of the things I cannot tell you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No…just explain. Or till she reaches class seven?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know because I do not have a grown-up daughter such that I can tell."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is fine. There is no problem but even though you are a woman too. Didn’t you go through the same process?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I am a woman but I did not know by that time what I was undergoing as I grew up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now did you realize at a certain age that you are now grown to maturity?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6847361824766915, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know because I do not have a grown-up daughter such that I can tell."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is fine. There is no problem but even though you are a woman too. Didn’t you go through the same process?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I am a woman but I did not know by that time what I was undergoing as I grew up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now did you realize at a certain age that you are now grown to maturity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I could not recognize because I just grew up and got married and to date I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a traditional ceremony where people dance in order to initiate one from childhood to adulthood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8453533116996191, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I could not recognize because I just grew up and got married and to date I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a traditional ceremony where people dance in order to initiate one from childhood to adulthood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is there but us there are some lessons you are undergoing so they will teach you and then they will initiate you to the adulthood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When a girl is now a grown up, her body is well covered completely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does she also participate in the initiation process?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9392814574440213, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is there but us there are some lessons you are undergoing so they will teach you and then they will initiate you to the adulthood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When a girl is now a grown up, her body is well covered completely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does she also participate in the initiation process?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…when a girl has become a grown up, she is covered with a piece of cloth (khanga)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now lets us look at your life at this grown-up age. What is your main economic activity that has enabled you earn a living…is it farming or livestock keeping?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0436460638266902, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When a girl is now a grown up, her body is well covered completely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does she also participate in the initiation process?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…when a girl has become a grown up, she is covered with a piece of cloth (khanga)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now lets us look at your life at this grown-up age. What is your main economic activity that has enabled you earn a living…is it farming or livestock keeping?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is both farming and livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you grow?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1596067375852113, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…when a girl has become a grown up, she is covered with a piece of cloth (khanga)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now lets us look at your life at this grown-up age. What is your main economic activity that has enabled you earn a living…is it farming or livestock keeping?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is both farming and livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you grow?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grow all crops depending on the season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you have a business like a shop that you rely upon?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2884519306502347, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is both farming and livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you grow?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grow all crops depending on the season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you have a business like a shop that you rely upon?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For instance, our father has built rental houses in town but we do not rely on them at the expense of cattle though they are there for emergency because the cattle can die anytime thus rely on the income from the rental house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they guest houses or rental houses?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.4316132562780386, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We grow all crops depending on the season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you have a business like a shop that you rely upon?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For instance, our father has built rental houses in town but we do not rely on them at the expense of cattle though they are there for emergency because the cattle can die anytime thus rely on the income from the rental house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they guest houses or rental houses?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not guest houses but rental houses which tenants rent like hotels."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they in Morogoro?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47957028475337626, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For instance, our father has built rental houses in town but we do not rely on them at the expense of cattle though they are there for emergency because the cattle can die anytime thus rely on the income from the rental house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they guest houses or rental houses?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not guest houses but rental houses which tenants rent like hotels."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they in Morogoro?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. The houses are located in a place called Mikindu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…I know Mikindu. Is it on your way to Turiani?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5328558719481958, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not guest houses but rental houses which tenants rent like hotels."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they in Morogoro?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. The houses are located in a place called Mikindu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…I know Mikindu. Is it on your way to Turiani?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Lets us look at another question. If you look in the past, there are some foods that our mothers or grandmothers used to cook for you but are not commonly used or not available today?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5920620799424398, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. The houses are located in a place called Mikindu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…I know Mikindu. Is it on your way to Turiani?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Lets us look at another question. If you look in the past, there are some foods that our mothers or grandmothers used to cook for you but are not commonly used or not available today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are still there and we eat them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean they are still there today and you eat them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6578467554915998, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Lets us look at another question. If you look in the past, there are some foods that our mothers or grandmothers used to cook for you but are not commonly used or not available today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are still there and we eat them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean they are still there today and you eat them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…they are still in our tradition and we still eat them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What of foods that never used to be there in the past when you were young but are there nowadays and a favourite meal to many."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7309408394351108, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are still there and we eat them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean they are still there today and you eat them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…they are still in our tradition and we still eat them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What of foods that never used to be there in the past when you were young but are there nowadays and a favourite meal to many."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I was still young? How?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I mean when you were still a young girl like five years old and was knowledgeable you were eating ugali...ugali…ugali then all over a sudden today you see a change people are now eating chips enriched with eggs, rice etc. Do you think there is a new food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8121564882612342, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…they are still in our tradition and we still eat them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What of foods that never used to be there in the past when you were young but are there nowadays and a favourite meal to many."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I was still young? How?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I mean when you were still a young girl like five years old and was knowledgeable you were eating ugali...ugali…ugali then all over a sudden today you see a change people are now eating chips enriched with eggs, rice etc. Do you think there is a new food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think there is any new food, may be chips though we were not used to it unless one just wants to eat it but not a reliable meal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be the way food is cooked (prepared) has changed for instance you will hear a Maasai saying that in the past, we used to boil food but nowadays it is fried using onions, tomatoes…did you also prepare meals in the same way or it has changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.902396098068038, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I was still young? How?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I mean when you were still a young girl like five years old and was knowledgeable you were eating ugali...ugali…ugali then all over a sudden today you see a change people are now eating chips enriched with eggs, rice etc. Do you think there is a new food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think there is any new food, may be chips though we were not used to it unless one just wants to eat it but not a reliable meal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be the way food is cooked (prepared) has changed for instance you will hear a Maasai saying that in the past, we used to boil food but nowadays it is fried using onions, tomatoes…did you also prepare meals in the same way or it has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has not changed. We cook food the same way we used to be cooked in the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the Maasai have changed too e.g. Nowadays they eat food they never used to eat in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0026623311867089, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think there is any new food, may be chips though we were not used to it unless one just wants to eat it but not a reliable meal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be the way food is cooked (prepared) has changed for instance you will hear a Maasai saying that in the past, we used to boil food but nowadays it is fried using onions, tomatoes…did you also prepare meals in the same way or it has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has not changed. We cook food the same way we used to be cooked in the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the Maasai have changed too e.g. Nowadays they eat food they never used to eat in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Did they know any food in the past apart from milk which they only took?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, they have emulated eating food from other tribes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1140692568741208, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has not changed. We cook food the same way we used to be cooked in the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the Maasai have changed too e.g. Nowadays they eat food they never used to eat in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Did they know any food in the past apart from milk which they only took?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, they have emulated eating food from other tribes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you think has contributed so far to their change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2378547298601343, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Did they know any food in the past apart from milk which they only took?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, they have emulated eating food from other tribes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you think has contributed so far to their change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is because of mixing up with people from different tribes and backgrounds."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore that mingling together is what has contributed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.375394144289038, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you think has contributed so far to their change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is because of mixing up with people from different tribes and backgrounds."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore that mingling together is what has contributed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh and when you go to someone’s home and you see a different food which is good, you emulate the same. Nowadays Maasai plant the same foods for example they cultivate maize, they take it for milling themselves and therefore they too eat ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that education has also contributed to all these?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.528215715876709, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is because of mixing up with people from different tribes and backgrounds."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore that mingling together is what has contributed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh and when you go to someone’s home and you see a different food which is good, you emulate the same. Nowadays Maasai plant the same foods for example they cultivate maize, they take it for milling themselves and therefore they too eat ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that education has also contributed to all these?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes education too has contributed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, we can say that education has contributed to these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.698017462085232, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh and when you go to someone’s home and you see a different food which is good, you emulate the same. Nowadays Maasai plant the same foods for example they cultivate maize, they take it for milling themselves and therefore they too eat ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that education has also contributed to all these?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes education too has contributed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, we can say that education has contributed to these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Drought has become persistent and contributed to death of many livestock (animals), can we say that it has contributed the change of food people eat for example the Maasai decide to eat ugali, rice and bananas because there is no milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.096317854426212, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Drought has become persistent and contributed to death of many livestock (animals), can we say that it has contributed the change of food people eat for example the Maasai decide to eat ugali, rice and bananas because there is no milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The issue is they do not change meals because of drought, yes there is drought but we cannot say drought has made them to change the meals that they eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh…"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No…it is the environment that has contributed much for instance education in that when children go out, they learn new foods and when they come back home, they teach their people how to prepare new meals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Thank you. Now do you think the change of meals (food) has led to the change in the living standards of different people and the Maasai of the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3292420604735686, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The issue is they do not change meals because of drought, yes there is drought but we cannot say drought has made them to change the meals that they eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh…"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No…it is the environment that has contributed much for instance education in that when children go out, they learn new foods and when they come back home, they teach their people how to prepare new meals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Thank you. Now do you think the change of meals (food) has led to the change in the living standards of different people and the Maasai of the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In which way it has changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.5880467338595206, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No…it is the environment that has contributed much for instance education in that when children go out, they learn new foods and when they come back home, they teach their people how to prepare new meals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Thank you. Now do you think the change of meals (food) has led to the change in the living standards of different people and the Maasai of the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In which way it has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Maasai of the past are not like the Maasai of today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? How the Maasai of the past are different from the Maasai of today?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6533852598439116, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In which way it has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Maasai of the past are not like the Maasai of today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? How the Maasai of the past are different from the Maasai of today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Maasai of the past were not enlightened like the Maasai of today as one could not cook ugali. One could prepare tea with milk and take only that the whole day till evening or they could take fermented milk and it is just enough like that. I therefore don’t understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we talk of milk you as a mother, is it of importance to you or not?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7259836220487906, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Maasai of the past are not like the Maasai of today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? How the Maasai of the past are different from the Maasai of today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Maasai of the past were not enlightened like the Maasai of today as one could not cook ugali. One could prepare tea with milk and take only that the whole day till evening or they could take fermented milk and it is just enough like that. I therefore don’t understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we talk of milk you as a mother, is it of importance to you or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important not to me alone but even to other people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In which way?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8066484689431007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Maasai of the past were not enlightened like the Maasai of today as one could not cook ugali. One could prepare tea with milk and take only that the whole day till evening or they could take fermented milk and it is just enough like that. I therefore don’t understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we talk of milk you as a mother, is it of importance to you or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important not to me alone but even to other people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In which way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I understand milk or the way I brought up my children, I could prepare porridge then add milk or even feed my children ugali and milk and they would get satisfied and healthy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of family income, do you sell milk or does milk contribute to household income?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8962760766034452, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important not to me alone but even to other people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In which way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I understand milk or the way I brought up my children, I could prepare porridge then add milk or even feed my children ugali and milk and they would get satisfied and healthy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of family income, do you sell milk or does milk contribute to household income?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we do sell milk and buy other basic needs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think milk is available as it is used to be in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9958623073371613, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I understand milk or the way I brought up my children, I could prepare porridge then add milk or even feed my children ugali and milk and they would get satisfied and healthy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What of family income, do you sell milk or does milk contribute to household income?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we do sell milk and buy other basic needs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think milk is available as it is used to be in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh (yes). The drought has worsened and milk is scarce now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has caused all these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.106513674819068, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we do sell milk and buy other basic needs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think milk is available as it is used to be in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh (yes). The drought has worsened and milk is scarce now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has caused all these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is drought that has led to this situation because in the past, we had enough milk as there was enough pasture but when drought hits back like now, you will find out that the cattle does not get enough pasture and others are dying…. When you milk the cows, they are empty thus can’t get milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience land conflict between farmers and pastoralist?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2294596386878534, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh (yes). The drought has worsened and milk is scarce now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has caused all these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is drought that has led to this situation because in the past, we had enough milk as there was enough pasture but when drought hits back like now, you will find out that the cattle does not get enough pasture and others are dying…. When you milk the cows, they are empty thus can’t get milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience land conflict between farmers and pastoralist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think if conflicts contribute to the shortage of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3660662652087259, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is drought that has led to this situation because in the past, we had enough milk as there was enough pasture but when drought hits back like now, you will find out that the cattle does not get enough pasture and others are dying…. When you milk the cows, they are empty thus can’t get milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you experience land conflict between farmers and pastoralist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think if conflicts contribute to the shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm…."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? do milk prices go up?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5178514057874732, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think if conflicts contribute to the shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm…."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? do milk prices go up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It goes up sometimes though rarely. Especially the one we are selling is cheap and prices do not go up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why doesn’t the price go up?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6865015619860813, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm…."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why? do milk prices go up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It goes up sometimes though rarely. Especially the one we are selling is cheap and prices do not go up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why doesn’t the price go up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know why."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be if we can look at other matters concerning food, who mostly buys food in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.873890624428979, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It goes up sometimes though rarely. Especially the one we are selling is cheap and prices do not go up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why doesn’t the price go up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know why."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be if we can look at other matters concerning food, who mostly buys food in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the husband who buys food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is he the one who goes to the market to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0821006938099766, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know why."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May be if we can look at other matters concerning food, who mostly buys food in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the husband who buys food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is he the one who goes to the market to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which food does he go to buy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.3134452153444185, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the husband who buys food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is he the one who goes to the market to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which food does he go to buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like which food…because I get confused. He has never bought any food for us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay it is fine. When you compare the past and today, do you think it is easier to get or buy food today compared with the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4593835726049096, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which food does he go to buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like which food…because I get confused. He has never bought any food for us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay it is fine. When you compare the past and today, do you think it is easier to get or buy food today compared with the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past, it was easier to buy food as they were cheaper compared with today whereby food is very expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is why he cannot buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.621537302894344, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like which food…because I get confused. He has never bought any food for us"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay it is fine. When you compare the past and today, do you think it is easier to get or buy food today compared with the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past, it was easier to buy food as they were cheaper compared with today whereby food is very expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is why he cannot buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that we are accusing him but it is because of difficult economic situation because it is easy to get food then eat but now getting money is difficult."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now lets us look at another question that deals with food. You may decide that today I will cook rice, bananas, ugali or kande, what do you think has contributed to all these?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.801708114327049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past, it was easier to buy food as they were cheaper compared with today whereby food is very expensive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is why he cannot buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that we are accusing him but it is because of difficult economic situation because it is easy to get food then eat but now getting money is difficult."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now lets us look at another question that deals with food. You may decide that today I will cook rice, bananas, ugali or kande, what do you think has contributed to all these?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just about changing the diet, there is nothing much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it is just about feelings?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8907867936967211, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not that we are accusing him but it is because of difficult economic situation because it is easy to get food then eat but now getting money is difficult."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now lets us look at another question that deals with food. You may decide that today I will cook rice, bananas, ugali or kande, what do you think has contributed to all these?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just about changing the diet, there is nothing much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it is just about feelings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because one cannot eat one meal repeatedly say today you eat ugali; the following day you eat ugali again your body will want to change food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, you have told me that is the appetite?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9897631041074678, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is just about changing the diet, there is nothing much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it is just about feelings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because one cannot eat one meal repeatedly say today you eat ugali; the following day you eat ugali again your body will want to change food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, you have told me that is the appetite?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know if it is appetite…may be if you can guide me because I get confused."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know you are tired but I am yet to finish up."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0997367823416309, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because one cannot eat one meal repeatedly say today you eat ugali; the following day you eat ugali again your body will want to change food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, you have told me that is the appetite?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know if it is appetite…may be if you can guide me because I get confused."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know you are tired but I am yet to finish up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I am not tired I am very much okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The issue I was telling you is; there is a situation whereby you say today you want to eat ugali, tomorrow you want to eat rice etc.…then again after three day you want to eat ugali. What is it that makes you change meals?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2219297581573676, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know if it is appetite…may be if you can guide me because I get confused."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know you are tired but I am yet to finish up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I am not tired I am very much okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The issue I was telling you is; there is a situation whereby you say today you want to eat ugali, tomorrow you want to eat rice etc.…then again after three day you want to eat ugali. What is it that makes you change meals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I see, it is just important for a human being to change diet. If you keep eating one meal, you will lose the taste of that food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, lets us say that is what contributes to this situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.357699731285964, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I am not tired I am very much okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The issue I was telling you is; there is a situation whereby you say today you want to eat ugali, tomorrow you want to eat rice etc.…then again after three day you want to eat ugali. What is it that makes you change meals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I see, it is just important for a human being to change diet. If you keep eating one meal, you will lose the taste of that food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, lets us say that is what contributes to this situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think money also contributes to the change of diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5085552569844043, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way I see, it is just important for a human being to change diet. If you keep eating one meal, you will lose the taste of that food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, lets us say that is what contributes to this situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think money also contributes to the change of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, money also contributes to change of diet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, money also contributes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6761725077604492, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think money also contributes to the change of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, money also contributes to change of diet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, money also contributes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh (yes)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another thing that contribute to the change of diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8624138975116102, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, money also contributes to change of diet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, money also contributes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh (yes)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another thing that contribute to the change of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any other thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really! You can’t get another reason like drought contributing to change of meals?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0693487750129003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh (yes)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another thing that contribute to the change of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any other thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really! You can’t get another reason like drought contributing to change of meals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course that is what I had told you that the current situation is difficult as a result of drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, drought has also contributed to the change of diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2992764166810002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any other thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really! You can’t get another reason like drought contributing to change of meals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course that is what I had told you that the current situation is difficult as a result of drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, drought has also contributed to the change of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you kindly explain how drought has contributed to the change of diet?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5547515740900004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course that is what I had told you that the current situation is difficult as a result of drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, drought has also contributed to the change of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you kindly explain how drought has contributed to the change of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For instance, right now during drought, there are no cows here meaning there is no milk to sell so I have to buy different food, therefore what will I change with? Don’t you think I will eat ugali and rice?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is your favourite meal here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8386128601000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you kindly explain how drought has contributed to the change of diet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For instance, right now during drought, there are no cows here meaning there is no milk to sell so I have to buy different food, therefore what will I change with? Don’t you think I will eat ugali and rice?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is your favourite meal here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is rice, in the past it was kande but nowadays it is rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the staple food for the Maasai?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.1540142890000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For instance, right now during drought, there are no cows here meaning there is no milk to sell so I have to buy different food, therefore what will I change with? Don’t you think I will eat ugali and rice?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is your favourite meal here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is rice, in the past it was kande but nowadays it is rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the staple food for the Maasai?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is rice…you know each tribe has its own staple meal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, when you go home, you will find that their favourite meal is rice?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3933492100000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is rice, in the past it was kande but nowadays it is rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the staple food for the Maasai?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is rice…you know each tribe has its own staple meal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, when you go home, you will find that their favourite meal is rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Digos."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is it, I am a mixture of Meru and Gogo even when you go to our home you will find that our favourite food is bananas. Therefore, every person has his own favourite meal."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.6592769, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is rice…you know each tribe has its own staple meal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, when you go home, you will find that their favourite meal is rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Digos."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is it, I am a mixture of Meru and Gogo even when you go to our home you will find that our favourite food is bananas. Therefore, every person has his own favourite meal."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, when we talk about food situation, do you think there is a time when the situation was very difficult, there was persistent dry spell, there is no money and you ate rarely e.g. Once or twice in a day?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.843641, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Digos."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is it, I am a mixture of Meru and Gogo even when you go to our home you will find that our favourite food is bananas. Therefore, every person has his own favourite meal."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, when we talk about food situation, do you think there is a time when the situation was very difficult, there was persistent dry spell, there is no money and you ate rarely e.g. Once or twice in a day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes, it happens like last year the situation was bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what you experienced last year has never happened in your life?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.04849, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, when we talk about food situation, do you think there is a time when the situation was very difficult, there was persistent dry spell, there is no money and you ate rarely e.g. Once or twice in a day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes, it happens like last year the situation was bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what you experienced last year has never happened in your life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it has never happened. Last year there was hunger there was no food, where to buy food was a problem. Therefore, one would leave buying a kilo of maize flour in order to buy rice so that is sufficient for the children, it was last year alone it has never happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was last year alone?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2761, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes, it happens like last year the situation was bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what you experienced last year has never happened in your life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it has never happened. Last year there was hunger there was no food, where to buy food was a problem. Therefore, one would leave buying a kilo of maize flour in order to buy rice so that is sufficient for the children, it was last year alone it has never happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was last year alone?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore you were then forced to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.529, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it has never happened. Last year there was hunger there was no food, where to buy food was a problem. Therefore, one would leave buying a kilo of maize flour in order to buy rice so that is sufficient for the children, it was last year alone it has never happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was last year alone?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore you were then forced to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we bought food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you tell me how you managed to overcome that situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore you were then forced to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we bought food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you tell me how you managed to overcome that situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was just by the grace of God."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But God says that you must help yourself first before he helps you."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we bought food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you tell me how you managed to overcome that situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was just by the grace of God."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But God says that you must help yourself first before he helps you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is by the grace of God because the cattle were dying, there was no business. We could go to a shop; the shop owner trusts you and buy foodstuff on credit because cattle were dying. For instance a cow that was worth Tshs 300,000 was sold at Tsh 100,000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, what did you do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was just by the grace of God."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But God says that you must help yourself first before he helps you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is by the grace of God because the cattle were dying, there was no business. We could go to a shop; the shop owner trusts you and buy foodstuff on credit because cattle were dying. For instance a cow that was worth Tshs 300,000 was sold at Tsh 100,000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, what did you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were forced to buy food on credit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true. You had goats, why couldn’t you sell them to get money. Had their prices also fallen?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is by the grace of God because the cattle were dying, there was no business. We could go to a shop; the shop owner trusts you and buy foodstuff on credit because cattle were dying. For instance a cow that was worth Tshs 300,000 was sold at Tsh 100,000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, what did you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were forced to buy food on credit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true. You had goats, why couldn’t you sell them to get money. Had their prices also fallen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, though they were better off compared to the cattle because you could sell a goat at Tsh 50,000 then buy flour than selling a cow at Tsh 100,000 though people had just to sell because they would still die…. When you go then come back, you will find it dead. Therefore, the situation was really bad last year but by the grace God we managed to cross over."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But lets us say when such a situation happens in the family, who between the father, the mother and the children is much affected?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were forced to buy food on credit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is true. You had goats, why couldn’t you sell them to get money. Had their prices also fallen?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, though they were better off compared to the cattle because you could sell a goat at Tsh 50,000 then buy flour than selling a cow at Tsh 100,000 though people had just to sell because they would still die…. When you go then come back, you will find it dead. Therefore, the situation was really bad last year but by the grace God we managed to cross over."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But lets us say when such a situation happens in the family, who between the father, the mother and the children is much affected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On the part of human beings, I will be deceiving God. No one was affected unless we talk of livestock which was grossly affected by the drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it is the cattle that were much affected?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, though they were better off compared to the cattle because you could sell a goat at Tsh 50,000 then buy flour than selling a cow at Tsh 100,000 though people had just to sell because they would still die…. When you go then come back, you will find it dead. Therefore, the situation was really bad last year but by the grace God we managed to cross over."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But lets us say when such a situation happens in the family, who between the father, the mother and the children is much affected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On the part of human beings, I will be deceiving God. No one was affected unless we talk of livestock which was grossly affected by the drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it is the cattle that were much affected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…the cattle were much affected but on the part of human beings, they were not affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now who among them was much affected?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "On the part of human beings, I will be deceiving God. No one was affected unless we talk of livestock which was grossly affected by the drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, it is the cattle that were much affected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…the cattle were much affected but on the part of human beings, they were not affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now who among them was much affected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no one who was much affected than the other for instance if a child went to its mother to ask for food, the mother would say the food is not there so she would cry or be disturbed mentally."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I appreciate very much. Let me ask you a last question before I set you free to do your own things. For example, in this village, do you receive any education let us say that deals with diet e.g. Eating of fruits, green vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes…the cattle were much affected but on the part of human beings, they were not affected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now who among them was much affected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no one who was much affected than the other for instance if a child went to its mother to ask for food, the mother would say the food is not there so she would cry or be disturbed mentally."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I appreciate very much. Let me ask you a last question before I set you free to do your own things. For example, in this village, do you receive any education let us say that deals with diet e.g. Eating of fruits, green vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have never received such education here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean you have not received any education of that type even when you go to clinic?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no one who was much affected than the other for instance if a child went to its mother to ask for food, the mother would say the food is not there so she would cry or be disturbed mentally."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I appreciate very much. Let me ask you a last question before I set you free to do your own things. For example, in this village, do you receive any education let us say that deals with diet e.g. Eating of fruits, green vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have never received such education here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean you have not received any education of that type even when you go to clinic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do receive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you receive the education when you go to the clinic?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have never received such education here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean you have not received any education of that type even when you go to clinic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do receive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you receive the education when you go to the clinic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you also taught the same in school. Isn’t that so?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do receive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, you receive the education when you go to the clinic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you also taught the same in school. Isn’t that so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, clinic is where you will hear such teachings?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you also taught the same in school. Isn’t that so?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, clinic is where you will hear such teachings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Haven’t you attended any of the seminars where the same is taught?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, clinic is where you will hear such teachings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Haven’t you attended any of the seminars where the same is taught?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. The only seminar which i attended is the one which taught about education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now when you were taught at the clinic, did you apply what you were taught?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Haven’t you attended any of the seminars where the same is taught?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. The only seminar which i attended is the one which taught about education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now when you were taught at the clinic, did you apply what you were taught?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes I applied as much as I can."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it helps?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. The only seminar which i attended is the one which taught about education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now when you were taught at the clinic, did you apply what you were taught?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes I applied as much as I can."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it helps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa...does it work well or bad?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes I applied as much as I can."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it helps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa...does it work well or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps very much; I cannot say that it is bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now give us a secret. Maybe we want a project about dietary issues and that we would wish to bring this project to this village of Kambala, do you think it is needed or not?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hahaaa...does it work well or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps very much; I cannot say that it is bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now give us a secret. Maybe we want a project about dietary issues and that we would wish to bring this project to this village of Kambala, do you think it is needed or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good and it will be of help. Can I ask you a question?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "kindly reserve your question I am about to finish and you will ask me at the end of our interview."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It helps very much; I cannot say that it is bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now give us a secret. Maybe we want a project about dietary issues and that we would wish to bring this project to this village of Kambala, do you think it is needed or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good and it will be of help. Can I ask you a question?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "kindly reserve your question I am about to finish and you will ask me at the end of our interview."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if we want this project to start so that it reaches out to everyone, what should we do, how should it be done?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is good and it will be of help. Can I ask you a question?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "kindly reserve your question I am about to finish and you will ask me at the end of our interview."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if we want this project to start so that it reaches out to everyone, what should we do, how should it be done?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not a resident here but if you want to do something here, you should come just the way you came today. Next time you organize for a seminar so that when many people come, you will educate them till they understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore there is no problem?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if we want this project to start so that it reaches out to everyone, what should we do, how should it be done?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not a resident here but if you want to do something here, you should come just the way you came today. Next time you organize for a seminar so that when many people come, you will educate them till they understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore there is no problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay.\tWhat if we create awareness through schools, churches? Do you think it will help disseminate information?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not a resident here but if you want to do something here, you should come just the way you came today. Next time you organize for a seminar so that when many people come, you will educate them till they understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore there is no problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay.\tWhat if we create awareness through schools, churches? Do you think it will help disseminate information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The information can still reach the residents but in this village people will just say okay but if a leader calls for a meeting, they will take it serious and attend to it even if not many will attend, but at least few will attend to it. When an adult listen and tells a fellow he will listen to it but if a child tells a parent that there is a meeting at school, they will say even in the market we have fruits. So, what are you telling us?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we bring this education, whom should we target? Is it the women, men or children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay.\tWhat if we create awareness through schools, churches? Do you think it will help disseminate information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The information can still reach the residents but in this village people will just say okay but if a leader calls for a meeting, they will take it serious and attend to it even if not many will attend, but at least few will attend to it. When an adult listen and tells a fellow he will listen to it but if a child tells a parent that there is a meeting at school, they will say even in the market we have fruits. So, what are you telling us?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we bring this education, whom should we target? Is it the women, men or children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to me, I see education concerning fruits and diet should target mothers (women)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why a mother (woman), why are you favouring yourselves?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The information can still reach the residents but in this village people will just say okay but if a leader calls for a meeting, they will take it serious and attend to it even if not many will attend, but at least few will attend to it. When an adult listen and tells a fellow he will listen to it but if a child tells a parent that there is a meeting at school, they will say even in the market we have fruits. So, what are you telling us?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we bring this education, whom should we target? Is it the women, men or children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to me, I see education concerning fruits and diet should target mothers (women)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why a mother (woman), why are you favouring yourselves?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we are the ones who take care of families."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Men do not take care of families?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "According to me, I see education concerning fruits and diet should target mothers (women)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why a mother (woman), why are you favouring yourselves?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we are the ones who take care of families."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Men do not take care of families?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do care. They bring the food home but it is the mother who prepares the food (meal)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To this point I have exhausted my questions. You may now ask your questions?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we are the ones who take care of families."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Men do not take care of families?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do care. They bring the food home but it is the mother who prepares the food (meal)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To this point I have exhausted my questions. You may now ask your questions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have forgotten what I wanted to ask…what you had asked earlier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I just asked you if we can bring a project."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do care. They bring the food home but it is the mother who prepares the food (meal)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To this point I have exhausted my questions. You may now ask your questions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have forgotten what I wanted to ask…what you had asked earlier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I just asked you if we can bring a project."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You had asked a question about fruits then I forgot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…. I had asked if you want to get education, where do you get it from…you said from dispensary (clinic)."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have forgotten what I wanted to ask…what you had asked earlier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I just asked you if we can bring a project."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You had asked a question about fruits then I forgot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…. I had asked if you want to get education, where do you get it from…you said from dispensary (clinic)."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now, are the fruits or the vegetables that forms a meal?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even if you eat ugali, it is still a meal though most people say that a nutritious food is flour which is mixed up."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You had asked a question about fruits then I forgot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ahaa…. I had asked if you want to get education, where do you get it from…you said from dispensary (clinic)."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now, are the fruits or the vegetables that forms a meal?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even if you eat ugali, it is still a meal though most people say that a nutritious food is flour which is mixed up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For me here, I haven’t started to teach."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now, are the fruits or the vegetables that forms a meal?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even if you eat ugali, it is still a meal though most people say that a nutritious food is flour which is mixed up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For me here, I haven’t started to teach."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ooh no, mean when you call for a seminar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, when we call for a seminar is when we can start teaching though you still receive some training when you go to clinic for instance and you are diagnosed with poor eyesight or insufficient blood, you are told to eat foods like sweet potato leaves, green vegetables etc.…is it true?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For me here, I haven’t started to teach."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ooh no, mean when you call for a seminar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, when we call for a seminar is when we can start teaching though you still receive some training when you go to clinic for instance and you are diagnosed with poor eyesight or insufficient blood, you are told to eat foods like sweet potato leaves, green vegetables etc.…is it true?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh (yes)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, when there is a seminar or similar project, those will be the same things that you will be taught every day."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00023:255", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ooh no, mean when you call for a seminar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, when we call for a seminar is when we can start teaching though you still receive some training when you go to clinic for instance and you are diagnosed with poor eyesight or insufficient blood, you are told to eat foods like sweet potato leaves, green vegetables etc.…is it true?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh (yes)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Therefore, when there is a seminar or similar project, those will be the same things that you will be taught every day."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you will be eating a variety of foods like green vegetables, fruits which help eyesight and for better health than eating just one meal. Do you have any question?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6404208433739784, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fine, what about you?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very well, mother how old are you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Twenty six years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Twenty six years old, What was happening or what was the major event happened in your community by the time you were born, did your parents told you if there's something happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born when there was nothing apart from milk and cows. There was nothing else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying that there was nothing else?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9338009370821982, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Twenty six years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Twenty six years old, What was happening or what was the major event happened in your community by the time you were born, did your parents told you if there's something happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born when there was nothing apart from milk and cows. There was nothing else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying that there was nothing else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say that there was nothing else?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2597788189802204, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born when there was nothing apart from milk and cows. There was nothing else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying that there was nothing else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say that there was nothing else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In these days the children are cunning, they know everything we did not know in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say that they know everything, what do they know in these days that you did not know in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.621976465533578, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say that there was nothing else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In these days the children are cunning, they know everything we did not know in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say that they know everything, what do they know in these days that you did not know in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past the children were not cunning but in these days they are cunning and they know everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Everything! I would like to know the things they know."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.9133071839261975, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In these days the children are cunning, they know everything we did not know in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say that they know everything, what do they know in these days that you did not know in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past the children were not cunning but in these days they are cunning and they know everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Everything! I would like to know the things they know."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are cunning because they have gone to school and if you give child money he knows a shilling and this is how cunning they are. If a child is sent he understands fast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was it in the past? Was this situation there or not?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0147857599179975, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past the children were not cunning but in these days they are cunning and they know everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Everything! I would like to know the things they know."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are cunning because they have gone to school and if you give child money he knows a shilling and this is how cunning they are. If a child is sent he understands fast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was it in the past? Was this situation there or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was not there. The children had not interacted with the Swahili people; they were only known by the Maasai."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, where were you born and raised?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.016428622131108288, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are cunning because they have gone to school and if you give child money he knows a shilling and this is how cunning they are. If a child is sent he understands fast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was it in the past? Was this situation there or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was not there. The children had not interacted with the Swahili people; they were only known by the Maasai."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, where were you born and raised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born in Kambala and grew up in Kambala"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know your family structure when you were living with your parents?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.018254024590120318, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was not there. The children had not interacted with the Swahili people; they were only known by the Maasai."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, where were you born and raised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born in Kambala and grew up in Kambala"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know your family structure when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "How it was structured?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean were you living in the same house father, mother and children in your own house, or were you living father, mother and children in the same homestead, or were you living father, mother, children, grandfather, grandmother and cousins and things of that sort."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.02028224954457813, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born in Kambala and grew up in Kambala"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know your family structure when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "How it was structured?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean were you living in the same house father, mother and children in your own house, or were you living father, mother and children in the same homestead, or were you living father, mother, children, grandfather, grandmother and cousins and things of that sort."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were living with mother and father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother and father?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.022535832827309036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "How it was structured?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean were you living in the same house father, mother and children in your own house, or were you living father, mother and children in the same homestead, or were you living father, mother, children, grandfather, grandmother and cousins and things of that sort."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were living with mother and father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother and father?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you living in the homestead or you were living in your own house?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.025039814252565594, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were living with mother and father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother and father?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you living in the homestead or you were living in your own house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahaa… children were in their own house, father and mother in their own house, children were not allowed in the house were the father was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were living in the homestead?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.027822015836183992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you living in the homestead or you were living in your own house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahaa… children were in their own house, father and mother in their own house, children were not allowed in the house were the father was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were living in the homestead?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why were the people not getting into the house where the father was?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.030913350929093322, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahaa… children were in their own house, father and mother in their own house, children were not allowed in the house were the father was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were living in the homestead?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why were the people not getting into the house where the father was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because he is the head of the family so his house was treated with a lot of respect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What could happen if they got in?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.03434816769899258, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why were the people not getting into the house where the father was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because he is the head of the family so his house was treated with a lot of respect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What could happen if they got in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The children only feared but there is nothing else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can happen if one pretends that he does not fear and gets in?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.038164630776658416, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because he is the head of the family so his house was treated with a lot of respect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What could happen if they got in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The children only feared but there is nothing else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can happen if one pretends that he does not fear and gets in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "for example if one is does not fear and gets in the house?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.04240514530739824, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The children only feared but there is nothing else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What can happen if one pretends that he does not fear and gets in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "for example if one is does not fear and gets in the house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing he is the one who fears."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, how many wives did your father have?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.052352031243701524, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing he is the one who fears."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, how many wives did your father have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ten."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ten wives?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were they in the same home or different homes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.058168923604112806, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ten."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ten wives?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were they in the same home or different homes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the same home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And by that time, were you allowed to eat food from another wife?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.06463213733790311, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were they in the same home or different homes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the same home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And by that time, were you allowed to eat food from another wife?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was cooking among all of them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07181348593100347, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the same home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And by that time, were you allowed to eat food from another wife?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was cooking among all of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Everyone was in her own house they cook and we will eat from any house and no one could say he will not eat in that house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother I would also want to know the type of work or activities people were doing so as to get money."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0797927621455594, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was cooking among all of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Everyone was in her own house they cook and we will eat from any house and no one could say he will not eat in that house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother I would also want to know the type of work or activities people were doing so as to get money."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Activities?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, activities or work which activities were you engaging in so that you could earn a living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.08865862460617711, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Everyone was in her own house they cook and we will eat from any house and no one could say he will not eat in that house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother I would also want to know the type of work or activities people were doing so as to get money."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Activities?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, activities or work which activities were you engaging in so that you could earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were only milking the cows and going to graze."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you selling the cows?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.09850958289575235, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Activities?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, activities or work which activities were you engaging in so that you could earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were only milking the cows and going to graze."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you selling the cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aahh! It is not us women; men were the ones selling the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1094550921063915, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were only milking the cows and going to graze."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you selling the cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aahh! It is not us women; men were the ones selling the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee. They were going to buy and sell cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Which were the father's responsibilities by that time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12161676900710167, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aahh! It is not us women; men were the ones selling the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee. They were going to buy and sell cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Which were the father's responsibilities by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were only buying the cows and if a child wants to travel he cannot travel if the man does not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the responsibilities of the mother by that time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13512974334122407, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee. They were going to buy and sell cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Which were the father's responsibilities by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were only buying the cows and if a child wants to travel he cannot travel if the man does not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the responsibilities of the mother by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the mothers doing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.15014415926802674, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were only buying the cows and if a child wants to travel he cannot travel if the man does not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the responsibilities of the mother by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the mothers doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing, but if you wrong her she would beat you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Duties and responsibilities of women those days?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1668268436311408, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the mothers doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing, but if you wrong her she would beat you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Duties and responsibilities of women those days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing, she was only selling milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about other activities? Probably cooking, making the house clean and other activities like that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.18536315959015645, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing, but if you wrong her she would beat you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Duties and responsibilities of women those days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing, she was only selling milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about other activities? Probably cooking, making the house clean and other activities like that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She ensures the house is clean and does other activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the responsibilities of the female children? By that time what were they doing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.20595906621128493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing, she was only selling milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about other activities? Probably cooking, making the house clean and other activities like that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She ensures the house is clean and does other activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the responsibilities of the female children? By that time what were they doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of looking for firewood, washing utensils,"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2288434069014277, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She ensures the house is clean and does other activities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the responsibilities of the female children? By that time what were they doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of looking for firewood, washing utensils,"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee, they were there for the children at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the only activities girls were doing by that time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25427045211269744, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of looking for firewood, washing utensils,"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee, they were there for the children at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the only activities girls were doing by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "eee.... they were collecting firewood, washing the utensils, guards, cooking and fetching water and grazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was it on the side of the boys?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2825227245696638, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee, they were there for the children at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Those are the only activities girls were doing by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "eee.... they were collecting firewood, washing the utensils, guards, cooking and fetching water and grazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how was it on the side of the boys?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were grazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other activities were they performing apart from grazing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34879348712304176, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were grazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other activities were they performing apart from grazing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Boys?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes boys"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were going to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By the time you were young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38754831902560194, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Boys?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes boys"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were going to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By the time you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aahh they were doing nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would like to know the types of food you were eating when you were young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4306092433617799, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were going to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By the time you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aahh they were doing nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would like to know the types of food you were eating when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only milk and ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By that time, milk and ugali?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4784547148464221, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aahh they were doing nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would like to know the types of food you were eating when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only milk and ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By that time, milk and ugali?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about other foods?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.590684833143731, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about other foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing, We were still eating rice but not as much as compared to these days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you eat nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6563164812708122, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing, We were still eating rice but not as much as compared to these days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you eat nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we are eating vegetables and when it is a market day we buy bananas and arrowroots and also pumpkin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food were least eaten those days?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7292405347453469, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing, We were still eating rice but not as much as compared to these days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you eat nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we are eating vegetables and when it is a market day we buy bananas and arrowroots and also pumpkin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food were least eaten those days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those days we were eating ugali and rice, and very few times we were eating bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times were you eating rice?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8102672608281631, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays we are eating vegetables and when it is a market day we buy bananas and arrowroots and also pumpkin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food were least eaten those days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those days we were eating ugali and rice, and very few times we were eating bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times were you eating rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Every evening, that is all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Type of food which you hardly eat? It was only eaten when there was an activity."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9002969564757368, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those days we were eating ugali and rice, and very few times we were eating bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many times were you eating rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Every evening, that is all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Type of food which you hardly eat? It was only eaten when there was an activity."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which foods were you getting from the forest meaning you were not buying or growing you used to get them from the forest?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0003299516397075, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Every evening, that is all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Type of food which you hardly eat? It was only eaten when there was an activity."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which foods were you getting from the forest meaning you were not buying or growing you used to get them from the forest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Forest?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm, You pick them when you were going to collect firewood or when you have gone to graze cattle’s so you pick them from the forest and bring them home for cooking?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0003666129330083368, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which foods were you getting from the forest meaning you were not buying or growing you used to get them from the forest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Forest?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm, You pick them when you were going to collect firewood or when you have gone to graze cattle’s so you pick them from the forest and bring them home for cooking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was ugali"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about vegetables? Where you eating wild vegetables from the forest by that time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0004073477033425965, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Forest?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm, You pick them when you were going to collect firewood or when you have gone to graze cattle’s so you pick them from the forest and bring them home for cooking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was ugali"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about vegetables? Where you eating wild vegetables from the forest by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were only eating amaranth, they grow by themselves and we used to eat them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, mother I would also want to know when you were young, who was making decisions on the type of foods to be bought and also who was going to buy food in the market?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.00045260855926955164, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was ugali"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about vegetables? Where you eating wild vegetables from the forest by that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were only eating amaranth, they grow by themselves and we used to eat them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, mother I would also want to know when you were young, who was making decisions on the type of foods to be bought and also who was going to buy food in the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother was making the decisions?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0005028983991883907, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were only eating amaranth, they grow by themselves and we used to eat them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, mother I would also want to know when you were young, who was making decisions on the type of foods to be bought and also who was going to buy food in the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother was making the decisions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was going to buy food in the market?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0005587759990982118, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother was making the decisions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was going to buy food in the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And by that time were you involving yourself in growing crops?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0006208622212202353, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was going to buy food in the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And by that time were you involving yourself in growing crops?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was making decision on the sale of the cows so as to get some money to buy food for the family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0007664965694076978, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was making decision on the sale of the cows so as to get some money to buy food for the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The man?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was concerned in making such decisions?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.000851662854897442, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The man?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was concerned in making such decisions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The one who was concerned apart from the man that they decide to go and buy something?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0009462920609971578, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who was concerned in making such decisions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The one who was concerned apart from the man that they decide to go and buy something?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and who was making the final decision?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0010514356233301753, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The one who was concerned apart from the man that they decide to go and buy something?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and who was making the final decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, mother by the time you were young in your Maasai community in Kambala, how did you know that the child has grown big starting with the female child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0011682618037001948, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and who was making the final decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, mother by the time you were young in your Maasai community in Kambala, how did you know that the child has grown big starting with the female child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The breasts and menstruation period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it the one indicating that you are now big?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0012980686707779942, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, mother by the time you were young in your Maasai community in Kambala, how did you know that the child has grown big starting with the female child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The breasts and menstruation period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it the one indicating that you are now big?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the traditional dances?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0014422985230866602, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The breasts and menstruation period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it the one indicating that you are now big?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the traditional dances?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Dances were performed whether a person is small or male."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm....so what was indicating to you that this one is now big?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0016025539145407336, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the traditional dances?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Dances were performed whether a person is small or male."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm....so what was indicating to you that this one is now big?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.001780615460600815, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Dances were performed whether a person is small or male."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm....so what was indicating to you that this one is now big?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The breasts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about on the side of boys what was showing you that this is now a big boy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0021982906920997715, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The breasts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about on the side of boys what was showing you that this is now a big boy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will see him and they seem to be very proud of themselves and they grow tall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way he stands up it shows that he has become big."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does he stand up?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0024425452134441907, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will see him and they seem to be very proud of themselves and they grow tall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way he stands up it shows that he has become big."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does he stand up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just see that he has become a big person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you know? For example I am a visitor to your house what is it that I will see to your boys that I will make me say that this boy has grown big? know?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0027139391260491007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way he stands up it shows that he has become big."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does he stand up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just see that he has become a big person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you know? For example I am a visitor to your house what is it that I will see to your boys that I will make me say that this boy has grown big? know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will know because of his height."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He will be very tall?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.003015487917832334, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just see that he has become a big person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you know? For example I am a visitor to your house what is it that I will see to your boys that I will make me say that this boy has grown big? know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will know because of his height."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He will be very tall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about if he is not very tall?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0033505421309248155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You will know because of his height."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He will be very tall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about if he is not very tall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "you can see like now he is still young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about going to be circumcised? Was it not one of the indicators that he is now a big boy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0037228245899164616, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about if he is not very tall?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "you can see like now he is still young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about going to be circumcised? Was it not one of the indicators that he is now a big boy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s come to your side, the time you became a mature girl, which things indicated to you that you are now a big girl?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.004136471766573846, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "you can see like now he is still young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about going to be circumcised? Was it not one of the indicators that he is now a big boy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s come to your side, the time you became a mature girl, which things indicated to you that you are now a big girl?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which time?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that made you say that you are now a big girl?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.004596079740637607, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhh,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s come to your side, the time you became a mature girl, which things indicated to you that you are now a big girl?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which time?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that made you say that you are now a big girl?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The breasts and menstruation periods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, we have completed the first part, we are coming to the second part which is about how you live in your household. Mother I would like to know the people you live with in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.005106755267375119, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which time?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that made you say that you are now a big girl?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The breasts and menstruation periods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, we have completed the first part, we are coming to the second part which is about how you live in your household. Mother I would like to know the people you live with in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I live with my husband and children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a co-wife who got married to your husband before you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.005674172519305687, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The breasts and menstruation periods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, we have completed the first part, we are coming to the second part which is about how you live in your household. Mother I would like to know the people you live with in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I live with my husband and children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a co-wife who got married to your husband before you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahah, I am the first one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does your husband have another wife?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.006304636132561874, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I live with my husband and children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a co-wife who got married to your husband before you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahah, I am the first one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does your husband have another wife?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you live together with her in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.007005151258402082, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahah, I am the first one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does your husband have another wife?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you live together with her in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many are you in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.007783501398224536, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you live together with her in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many are you in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are six children and my co-wife has one child, mine are five together with the husband and her."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which activities do you do so that you can get money to use?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.00864833488691615, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many are you in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are six children and my co-wife has one child, mine are five together with the husband and her."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which activities do you do so that you can get money to use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing. It is only milk and chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "milk and chicken? What is your main work you engage yourself as a family so as to earn a living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.009609260985462388, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are six children and my co-wife has one child, mine are five together with the husband and her."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which activities do you do so that you can get money to use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing. It is only milk and chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "milk and chicken? What is your main work you engage yourself as a family so as to earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only the cows and the goats, there isn't any other work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said nowadays you depend on selling milk, Chicken, cows and goats to earn a living and in the past you only depend on cows to earn a living so is there any difference in the way you live now as compared with the past when you were living with your parents?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.010676956650513764, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing. It is only milk and chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "milk and chicken? What is your main work you engage yourself as a family so as to earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only the cows and the goats, there isn't any other work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said nowadays you depend on selling milk, Chicken, cows and goats to earn a living and in the past you only depend on cows to earn a living so is there any difference in the way you live now as compared with the past when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past I was not the one to decide on what to sell but now I can sell and get some money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the disadvantages and advantages of the changes in the way you live in your family? Let us begin with the he disadvantages"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.011863285167237515, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only the cows and the goats, there isn't any other work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said nowadays you depend on selling milk, Chicken, cows and goats to earn a living and in the past you only depend on cows to earn a living so is there any difference in the way you live now as compared with the past when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past I was not the one to decide on what to sell but now I can sell and get some money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the disadvantages and advantages of the changes in the way you live in your family? Let us begin with the he disadvantages"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we do not have milk and our children do not know how to eat dry food so that is the disadvantage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it that sometimes there is no milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.01318142796359724, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past I was not the one to decide on what to sell but now I can sell and get some money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the disadvantages and advantages of the changes in the way you live in your family? Let us begin with the he disadvantages"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we do not have milk and our children do not know how to eat dry food so that is the disadvantage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it that sometimes there is no milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the advantages?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.014646031070663599, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we do not have milk and our children do not know how to eat dry food so that is the disadvantage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it that sometimes there is no milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the advantages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only advantage we have gained is only chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cooking the chicken and eating them like meat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.01808151984032543, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only advantage we have gained is only chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cooking the chicken and eating them like meat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahah...no one eats."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why you do not like eating them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.02009057760036159, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahah...no one eats."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why you do not like eating them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never eaten chicken in the past and I do not eat even now and if a chicken died I throw it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and what are the duties and responsibilities of the men and women in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.022322864000401763, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why you do not like eating them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never eaten chicken in the past and I do not eat even now and if a chicken died I throw it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and what are the duties and responsibilities of the men and women in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They only sell chicken and cows"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean the activities which the father does at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.024803182222668627, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never eaten chicken in the past and I do not eat even now and if a chicken died I throw it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay and what are the duties and responsibilities of the men and women in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They only sell chicken and cows"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean the activities which the father does at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no activities which he is doing alone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You all work together?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.027559091358520697, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They only sell chicken and cows"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean the activities which the father does at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no activities which he is doing alone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You all work together?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of grazing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.030621212620578552, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no activities which he is doing alone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You all work together?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of grazing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The children are the ones who go to graze."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Children of which gender?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.034023569578420614, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of grazing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The children are the ones who go to graze."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Children of which gender?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Male children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the issue of going to sell the cattle? Who does this activity?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.03780396619824512, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The children are the ones who go to graze."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Children of which gender?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Male children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the issue of going to sell the cattle? Who does this activity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The mother is not allowed to sell cows?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.04200440688693902, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Male children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the issue of going to sell the cattle? Who does this activity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The mother is not allowed to sell cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. She grazes but she is not allowed to sell a cow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are the responsibilities of women in your household I mean the only activities that is performed by you and your co-wife?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.04667156320771002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The mother is not allowed to sell cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. She grazes but she is not allowed to sell a cow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are the responsibilities of women in your household I mean the only activities that is performed by you and your co-wife?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about washing dishes, cooking, fetching water?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.051857292453011135, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. She grazes but she is not allowed to sell a cow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are the responsibilities of women in your household I mean the only activities that is performed by you and your co-wife?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about washing dishes, cooking, fetching water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, we fetch water, we wash dishes, we cook and collecting firewood and that is not the work for the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother has these changes of being able to sell cows; milk affected you positively or negatively?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.05761921383667904, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about washing dishes, cooking, fetching water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, we fetch water, we wash dishes, we cook and collecting firewood and that is not the work for the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother has these changes of being able to sell cows; milk affected you positively or negatively?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, nowadays you are able to sell cows, milk or who has the responsibility of selling milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.06402134870742116, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, we fetch water, we wash dishes, we cook and collecting firewood and that is not the work for the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother has these changes of being able to sell cows; milk affected you positively or negatively?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, nowadays you are able to sell cows, milk or who has the responsibility of selling milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is ours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who are they?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07903870210792735, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is ours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who are they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have earlier told me you were not selling milk in the past,"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.08782078011991927, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have earlier told me you were not selling milk in the past,"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm. ##I003# So what are the advantages or disadvantages you have incurred from these change?\n\nThe changes are women are the ones who sell the milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, what are the advantages you have gained from selling milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.09757864457768807, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have earlier told me you were not selling milk in the past,"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm. ##I003# So what are the advantages or disadvantages you have incurred from these change?\n\nThe changes are women are the ones who sell the milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, what are the advantages you have gained from selling milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course the money we get from selling milk we use them to buy sugar and other stuff in the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the disadvantages?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.10842071619743118, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm. ##I003# So what are the advantages or disadvantages you have incurred from these change?\n\nThe changes are women are the ones who sell the milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, what are the advantages you have gained from selling milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course the money we get from selling milk we use them to buy sugar and other stuff in the house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the disadvantages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only disadvantage is when there is drought we experience milk shortage and that affects our income from sale of milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I would like to know duties and responsibilities of the boys and the girls in your household starting with boys?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13385273604621134, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only disadvantage is when there is drought we experience milk shortage and that affects our income from sale of milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I would like to know duties and responsibilities of the boys and the girls in your household starting with boys?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is grazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Grazing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from grazing, which other duties do they perform?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.14872526227356814, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is grazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Grazing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from grazing, which other duties do they perform?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the girls?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1652502914150757, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from grazing, which other duties do they perform?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the girls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Washing utensils, collecting firewood and cooking."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we were here on February this year we heard that there were some changes in the food people eat, nowadays people of the Maasai community are now eating fish, eggs, chicken others also eat chips enriched with eggs and also the cooking method has also changed people no longer boiling food like in the past, so mama I would like to know what are the changes you have seen or experienced so far?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2040127054507107, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Washing utensils, collecting firewood and cooking."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we were here on February this year we heard that there were some changes in the food people eat, nowadays people of the Maasai community are now eating fish, eggs, chicken others also eat chips enriched with eggs and also the cooking method has also changed people no longer boiling food like in the past, so mama I would like to know what are the changes you have seen or experienced so far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true that food has changed because we eat rice, we frequently eat meat, we eat vegetables such as the tomatoes okra we eat almost everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We frequently eat cassava. Nowadays we eat the food which we were not eating in the past like tomatoes, we eat bananas we eat rice frequently and we also have tea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were you eating in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22668078383412302, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is true that food has changed because we eat rice, we frequently eat meat, we eat vegetables such as the tomatoes okra we eat almost everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We frequently eat cassava. Nowadays we eat the food which we were not eating in the past like tomatoes, we eat bananas we eat rice frequently and we also have tea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were you eating in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only milk and ugali because there was a lot of milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which groups of people eat the food you are eating in these days?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25186753759347, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We frequently eat cassava. Nowadays we eat the food which we were not eating in the past like tomatoes, we eat bananas we eat rice frequently and we also have tea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were you eating in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only milk and ugali because there was a lot of milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which groups of people eat the food you are eating in these days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The groups?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eee.... I mean may be men were the only ones who were eating that food and women are not eating them or the women were the ones who were eating them and the men did not eat."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2798528195483, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only milk and ugali because there was a lot of milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which groups of people eat the food you are eating in these days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The groups?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eee.... I mean may be men were the only ones who were eating that food and women are not eating them or the women were the ones who were eating them and the men did not eat."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were all eating together"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about food that men were eating in the past that has changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3109475772758889, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The groups?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eee.... I mean may be men were the only ones who were eating that food and women are not eating them or the women were the ones who were eating them and the men did not eat."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were all eating together"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about food that men were eating in the past that has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The men's food, they mainly eat meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were they mainly eating in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.345497308084321, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were all eating together"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about food that men were eating in the past that has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The men's food, they mainly eat meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were they mainly eating in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were eating meat but mainly took stew but in these days they do not take stew."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are they not taking stew in these days?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38388589787146776, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The men's food, they mainly eat meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were they mainly eating in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were eating meat but mainly took stew but in these days they do not take stew."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are they not taking stew in these days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are saying that the cows have become thin. In the past you could go to different place and take stew but in these days it is mainly meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the meat prepared?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.42653988652385305, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were eating meat but mainly took stew but in these days they do not take stew."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are they not taking stew in these days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are saying that the cows have become thin. In the past you could go to different place and take stew but in these days it is mainly meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the meat prepared?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They slaughter and eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do they cook, meaning how do they prepare them so that they can eat them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4739332072487256, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are saying that the cows have become thin. In the past you could go to different place and take stew but in these days it is mainly meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the meat prepared?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They slaughter and eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do they cook, meaning how do they prepare them so that they can eat them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They slaughter and then fry them in a cooking pot and then they eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about the foods which were eaten by the women only? How did these foods which were not eaten by other people change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.526592452498584, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They slaughter and eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do they cook, meaning how do they prepare them so that they can eat them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They slaughter and then fry them in a cooking pot and then they eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about the foods which were eaten by the women only? How did these foods which were not eaten by other people change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaaa, what about loshoro?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6501141388871406, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aaaa, what about loshoro?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Losh...."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Loshoro."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What is loshoro?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know loshoro?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.722349043207934, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Losh...."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Loshoro."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What is loshoro?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know loshoro?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhuh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother I would like to know the reason to the changes of the food which people used to eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8026100480088155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What is loshoro?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know loshoro?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhuh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother I would like to know the reason to the changes of the food which people used to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cows' vanished .That is the reason for change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The cows have vanished?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8917889422320172, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhuh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother I would like to know the reason to the changes of the food which people used to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cows' vanished .That is the reason for change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The cows have vanished?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why have they vanished?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9908766024800191, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cows' vanished .That is the reason for change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The cows have vanished?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why have they vanished?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The drought has eaten them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1009740027555768, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why have they vanished?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The drought has eaten them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has the drought done?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:247", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2233044475061963, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of the drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The drought has eaten them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has the drought done?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows are dying because of too much sun"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason has caused this?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3592271638957736, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has the drought done?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows are dying because of too much sun"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason has caused this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The environmental condition has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The environmental condition has changed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5102524043286374, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows are dying because of too much sun"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason has caused this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The environmental condition has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The environmental condition has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has it been?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6780582270318192, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The environmental condition has changed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The environmental condition has changed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has it been?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is bad and all the people are interacting with the Swahili and everything is prepared by the Swahili people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The Swahili people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:255", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8645091411464658, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "mmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has it been?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is bad and all the people are interacting with the Swahili and everything is prepared by the Swahili people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The Swahili people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are hawking everything and that is the reason of buying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Explain for me in details what the Swahili people have done"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:257", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.071676823496073, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is bad and all the people are interacting with the Swahili and everything is prepared by the Swahili people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The Swahili people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are hawking everything and that is the reason of buying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Explain for me in details what the Swahili people have done"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahah, Swahili people have mixed up with the Maasai .They have become one and they bring everything and the Maasai buy them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason apart from that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.301863137217859, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are hawking everything and that is the reason of buying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Explain for me in details what the Swahili people have done"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahah, Swahili people have mixed up with the Maasai .They have become one and they bring everything and the Maasai buy them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason apart from that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmmhu!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the coming of the Swahili people which other reason has made you change the food you are eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:263", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.84180634224427, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmmhu!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the coming of the Swahili people which other reason has made you change the food you are eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nothing else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of children going to school? Do you think this is a reason for making people change the food they eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:265", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.157562602493633, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing else."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nothing else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of children going to school? Do you think this is a reason for making people change the food they eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee. People have gone to the market and the children have also gone to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have they changed the ways of eating after going to school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:267", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.508402891659592, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of children going to school? Do you think this is a reason for making people change the food they eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee. People have gone to the market and the children have also gone to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have they changed the ways of eating after going to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have become cunning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying they have become cunning?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:269", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7871143240662133, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee. People have gone to the market and the children have also gone to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have they changed the ways of eating after going to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have become cunning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying they have become cunning?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmhu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying \"cunning?\""}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:271", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.096793693406904, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have become cunning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying they have become cunning?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmhu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying \"cunning?\""}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past they were not cunning and when they went to school they become cunning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the availability of food? Do you think this is a reason for changing the food they eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:273", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4408818815632265, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmhu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying \"cunning?\""}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past they were not cunning and when they went to school they become cunning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the availability of food? Do you think this is a reason for changing the food they eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The availability of food? Do you think it is a reason for changing the food you eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:275", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.823202090625807, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past they were not cunning and when they went to school they become cunning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the availability of food? Do you think this is a reason for changing the food they eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The availability of food? Do you think it is a reason for changing the food you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know what are you saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is what I am saying, do you think availability of food is one of the reasons in the way you eat in your community such that in your household you have stopped eating a certain food because the food is not found in plenty, certain food is not available, and do you think these are some of the reasons?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:277", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.025780100695341, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The availability of food? Do you think it is a reason for changing the food you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know what are you saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is what I am saying, do you think availability of food is one of the reasons in the way you eat in your community such that in your household you have stopped eating a certain food because the food is not found in plenty, certain food is not available, and do you think these are some of the reasons?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the reasons is you can get food today and miss it in the evening and vice versa or you get it every day it depends."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you progress? I would like to know in depth."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1397556674392681, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know what are you saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is what I am saying, do you think availability of food is one of the reasons in the way you eat in your community such that in your household you have stopped eating a certain food because the food is not found in plenty, certain food is not available, and do you think these are some of the reasons?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the reasons is you can get food today and miss it in the evening and vice versa or you get it every day it depends."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you progress? I would like to know in depth."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You go at night looking for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the availability of firewood makes you unable to eat the food you eat such that if there is no enough firewood you will not be able to cook the food you used to cook for example (kande) mixture of maize and beans which needs a lot of firewood, Do you think this has changed your way of eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:281", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2663951860436313, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the reasons is you can get food today and miss it in the evening and vice versa or you get it every day it depends."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you progress? I would like to know in depth."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You go at night looking for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the availability of firewood makes you unable to eat the food you eat such that if there is no enough firewood you will not be able to cook the food you used to cook for example (kande) mixture of maize and beans which needs a lot of firewood, Do you think this has changed your way of eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it not that way?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:283", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4071057622707015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You go at night looking for food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think the availability of firewood makes you unable to eat the food you eat such that if there is no enough firewood you will not be able to cook the food you used to cook for example (kande) mixture of maize and beans which needs a lot of firewood, Do you think this has changed your way of eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it not that way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because you go to cut the firewood and stock them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the responsibilities of women and men? Do you think this is associated with the changes in the food people eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:285", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5634508469674462, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it not that way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because you go to cut the firewood and stock them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the responsibilities of women and men? Do you think this is associated with the changes in the food people eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What are you saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The duties of a woman and the duties of a man? Nowadays everything has changed such that women perform men’s duties and also men perform women’s duty so do you think this is another reason which has made you change the food you eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:287", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7371676077416067, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because you go to cut the firewood and stock them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the responsibilities of women and men? Do you think this is associated with the changes in the food people eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What are you saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The duties of a woman and the duties of a man? Nowadays everything has changed such that women perform men’s duties and also men perform women’s duty so do you think this is another reason which has made you change the food you eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it not that way?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:289", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9301862308240074, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What are you saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The duties of a woman and the duties of a man? Nowadays everything has changed such that women perform men’s duties and also men perform women’s duty so do you think this is another reason which has made you change the food you eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it not that way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not that way because if you want to wake up and go to get firewood, I do not wake up the husband? I just get the machete and leave, there are some duties I do alone and there are some duties he does alone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about stigma, if people see someone eating a certain food they associate him with poverty and or rich, do you think this is another reason which has made people change the food they eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:291", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1446513675822305, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it not that way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not that way because if you want to wake up and go to get firewood, I do not wake up the husband? I just get the machete and leave, there are some duties I do alone and there are some duties he does alone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about stigma, if people see someone eating a certain food they associate him with poverty and or rich, do you think this is another reason which has made people change the food they eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you say no?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:293", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.382945963980256, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not that way because if you want to wake up and go to get firewood, I do not wake up the husband? I just get the machete and leave, there are some duties I do alone and there are some duties he does alone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about stigma, if people see someone eating a certain food they associate him with poverty and or rich, do you think this is another reason which has made people change the food they eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you say no?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you cook food, do you come to say that food is bad? he does not say that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you mentioned that there so many reasons in the changes of the food you eat one is drought such that the cows are dying, others you have told me is the interaction with other tribes such that the Swahili people have now interacted with the Maasai, the other one you have told me is taking the children to school and you have also told me the availability of food. In all these four reasons, which one do you think is the first reason which has made people of Kambala to change the food they are eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:295", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.64771773775584, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you say no?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you cook food, do you come to say that food is bad? he does not say that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you mentioned that there so many reasons in the changes of the food you eat one is drought such that the cows are dying, others you have told me is the interaction with other tribes such that the Swahili people have now interacted with the Maasai, the other one you have told me is taking the children to school and you have also told me the availability of food. In all these four reasons, which one do you think is the first reason which has made people of Kambala to change the food they are eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The main reason of changing the food is that the cows have reduced in number and the Maasai people are now clever they know they cannot survive of milk and meat so they are eating other foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are clever on the issue of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:297", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.941908597506489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you cook food, do you come to say that food is bad? he does not say that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, you mentioned that there so many reasons in the changes of the food you eat one is drought such that the cows are dying, others you have told me is the interaction with other tribes such that the Swahili people have now interacted with the Maasai, the other one you have told me is taking the children to school and you have also told me the availability of food. In all these four reasons, which one do you think is the first reason which has made people of Kambala to change the food they are eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The main reason of changing the food is that the cows have reduced in number and the Maasai people are now clever they know they cannot survive of milk and meat so they are eating other foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are clever on the issue of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee, one needs to do a job and get money to buy food for his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying that the Maasai are clever now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:299", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0465651083405432, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The main reason of changing the food is that the cows have reduced in number and the Maasai people are now clever they know they cannot survive of milk and meat so they are eating other foods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are clever on the issue of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee, one needs to do a job and get money to buy food for his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying that the Maasai are clever now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past the Maasai minds were blocked. They did not know how and where to look for food they were just looking for cows but in these days they are able to question what the children would eat in the evening or what they will eat the following day or what they will eat during the drought until it rains? They now know how to store food for future use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did they get to think of that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:301", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.05173900926727021, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee, one needs to do a job and get money to buy food for his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying that the Maasai are clever now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past the Maasai minds were blocked. They did not know how and where to look for food they were just looking for cows but in these days they are able to question what the children would eat in the evening or what they will eat the following day or what they will eat during the drought until it rains? They now know how to store food for future use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did they get to think of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "God is the one who has created all this and now cows have vanished so they have to think of the alternative ways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so the first reason you said is drought?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:303", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.057487788074744674, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past the Maasai minds were blocked. They did not know how and where to look for food they were just looking for cows but in these days they are able to question what the children would eat in the evening or what they will eat the following day or what they will eat during the drought until it rains? They now know how to store food for future use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did they get to think of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "God is the one who has created all this and now cows have vanished so they have to think of the alternative ways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so the first reason you said is drought?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason do you think has caused the changes in the way of eating? There is the interaction of the tribes, the children are going to school and there is also the availability of food. So which is second reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:305", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.06387532008304964, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "God is the one who has created all this and now cows have vanished so they have to think of the alternative ways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so the first reason you said is drought?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason do you think has caused the changes in the way of eating? There is the interaction of the tribes, the children are going to school and there is also the availability of food. So which is second reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only problem is food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Food has the problem?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:307", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07097257787005515, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason do you think has caused the changes in the way of eating? There is the interaction of the tribes, the children are going to school and there is also the availability of food. So which is second reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only problem is food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Food has the problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have said that food is the problem?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:309", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07885841985561683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only problem is food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Food has the problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have said that food is the problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying the food has got a problem?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:311", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.08762046650624092, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have said that food is the problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying the food has got a problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You find that in these days we have started to farm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you grow crops nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:313", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.09735607389582324, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying the food has got a problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You find that in these days we have started to farm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you grow crops nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now we are smarter it is not like before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, which other reason do you think has caused the changes in the food you eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:315", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.10817341543980359, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You find that in these days we have started to farm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you grow crops nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now we are smarter it is not like before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, which other reason do you think has caused the changes in the food you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is the other reason among these ones? Interaction of the tribes, changing the way of life such that in these days you grow crops and also the children going to school. Which other reason has changed the food you eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:317", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12019268382200399, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now we are smarter it is not like before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, which other reason do you think has caused the changes in the food you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is the other reason among these ones? Interaction of the tribes, changing the way of life such that in these days you grow crops and also the children going to school. Which other reason has changed the food you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Choose for me among these ones"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:319", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1335474264688933, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is the other reason among these ones? Interaction of the tribes, changing the way of life such that in these days you grow crops and also the children going to school. Which other reason has changed the food you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Choose for me among these ones"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which ones?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is among the Swahili interacting with you, taking the children to school, change in the way you are living such that in these days you are growing crops, which one has changed the way you are eating in these days such that you cook other types of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:321", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.14838602940988144, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Choose for me among these ones"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which ones?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is among the Swahili interacting with you, taking the children to school, change in the way you are living such that in these days you are growing crops, which one has changed the way you are eating in these days such that you cook other types of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reduction of milk has made us change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in all these reasons you have mentioned for me I have realised that the first reason in the changes of food you eat is drought followed by availability of the food such that nowadays milk has reduced. These are the main reasons my question is why do you think these are the reasons which have caused the changes in the food you eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:323", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.16487336601097938, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which ones?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is among the Swahili interacting with you, taking the children to school, change in the way you are living such that in these days you are growing crops, which one has changed the way you are eating in these days such that you cook other types of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reduction of milk has made us change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in all these reasons you have mentioned for me I have realised that the first reason in the changes of food you eat is drought followed by availability of the food such that nowadays milk has reduced. These are the main reasons my question is why do you think these are the reasons which have caused the changes in the food you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pardon please."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am saying, drought together with unavailability of food change the type of food you eat so why are you saying those were the main reasons?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:325", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1831926289010882, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reduction of milk has made us change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in all these reasons you have mentioned for me I have realised that the first reason in the changes of food you eat is drought followed by availability of the food such that nowadays milk has reduced. These are the main reasons my question is why do you think these are the reasons which have caused the changes in the food you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pardon please."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am saying, drought together with unavailability of food change the type of food you eat so why are you saying those were the main reasons?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmhuh,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why have you said these are the main reasons of changing the way you eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:327", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.20354736544565355, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pardon please."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I am saying, drought together with unavailability of food change the type of food you eat so why are you saying those were the main reasons?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmhuh,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why have you said these are the main reasons of changing the way you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The main reason of changing is that there is drought and it has caused that famine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying these are the first reasons? Which disasters have you got?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:329", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2261637393840595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmhuh,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why have you said these are the main reasons of changing the way you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The main reason of changing is that there is drought and it has caused that famine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying these are the first reasons? Which disasters have you got?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cows have died."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why are you saying that taking children to school is a minor reason of changing the way you eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:331", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2512930437600661, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The main reason of changing is that there is drought and it has caused that famine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying these are the first reasons? Which disasters have you got?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cows have died."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why are you saying that taking children to school is a minor reason of changing the way you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Taking children to school? Why are you saying this is a minor reason of changing the foods you were eating in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:333", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2792144930667401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cows have died."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why are you saying that taking children to school is a minor reason of changing the way you eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Taking children to school? Why are you saying this is a minor reason of changing the foods you were eating in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The children are going to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which changes have they brought after going to school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:335", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3102383256297112, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Taking children to school? Why are you saying this is a minor reason of changing the foods you were eating in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The children are going to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which changes have they brought after going to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The children have become clever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhhuh. And if they have become clever, how are they?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:337", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3447092506996791, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The children are going to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which changes have they brought after going to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The children have become clever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhhuh. And if they have become clever, how are they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They go to school and become knowledgeable"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that you have gained after the children going to school? On the side of foods, which changes have they brought?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:339", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38301027855519904, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The children have become clever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhhuh. And if they have become clever, how are they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They go to school and become knowledgeable"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that you have gained after the children going to school? On the side of foods, which changes have they brought?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The child goes to school to get education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is it that they have gained in school and brought back home and made you change the food you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:341", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4255669761724434, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They go to school and become knowledgeable"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that you have gained after the children going to school? On the side of foods, which changes have they brought?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The child goes to school to get education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is it that they have gained in school and brought back home and made you change the food you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the disadvantages or advantages you have personally gained?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:343", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4728521957471593, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The child goes to school to get education."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is it that they have gained in school and brought back home and made you change the food you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the disadvantages or advantages you have personally gained?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have told me about drought, the interaction of the tribes, children going to school, the unavailability of food, the changes in the way of living such that in these days you grow crops, so I would like to know the advantages and disadvantages you have encountered, and also if they have affected your family and community at large?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:347", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5837681428977275, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have told me about drought, the interaction of the tribes, children going to school, the unavailability of food, the changes in the way of living such that in these days you grow crops, so I would like to know the advantages and disadvantages you have encountered, and also if they have affected your family and community at large?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nothing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about men do you think they have lost something?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:349", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6486312698863639, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nothing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about men do you think they have lost something?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the positive changes they have gained?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:351", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7207014109848487, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about men do you think they have lost something?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the positive changes they have gained?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now our children can go to school and also they can take cows to drink water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How? Where were you taking them to drink water in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:353", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8007793455387208, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the positive changes they have gained?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now our children can go to school and also they can take cows to drink water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How? Where were you taking them to drink water in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the river."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where is the river?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:355", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8897548283763563, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now our children can go to school and also they can take cows to drink water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How? Where were you taking them to drink water in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the river."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where is the river?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is far, where there is the lake."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has happened such that you are now watering here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:357", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9886164759737293, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the river."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where is the river?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is far, where there is the lake."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has happened such that you are now watering here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have built a house here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Mother I would like us to talk about the issue of milk. Do you think milk is important to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:359", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0984627510819214, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is far, where there is the lake."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has happened such that you are now watering here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have built a house here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Mother I would like us to talk about the issue of milk. Do you think milk is important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:361", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2205141678688014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They have built a house here"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Mother I would like us to talk about the issue of milk. Do you think milk is important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is important to us because my children take milk every time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What does he/she gain after taking milk every time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:363", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.356126853187557, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the importance of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is important to us because my children take milk every time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What does he/she gain after taking milk every time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He does not become hungry and also he does not cry again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He does not cry again?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:365", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.39569650354173, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is important to us because my children take milk every time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What does he/she gain after taking milk every time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He does not become hungry and also he does not cry again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He does not cry again?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhhh, even if he does not have Ugali he will not cry because he/she had milk, so that is the advantage we get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other advantage do you get from milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:367", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43966278171303336, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He does not become hungry and also he does not cry again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He does not cry again?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhhh, even if he does not have Ugali he will not cry because he/she had milk, so that is the advantage we get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other advantage do you get from milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other advantage is that I sell and get money and also I make ghee out of milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You get ghee, you sell and get money and after the child takes milk he does not cry?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:369", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.48851420190337036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhhh, even if he does not have Ugali he will not cry because he/she had milk, so that is the advantage we get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other advantage do you get from milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other advantage is that I sell and get money and also I make ghee out of milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You get ghee, you sell and get money and after the child takes milk he does not cry?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you get in the body?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:371", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5427935576704115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other advantage is that I sell and get money and also I make ghee out of milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You get ghee, you sell and get money and after the child takes milk he does not cry?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you get in the body?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The body like milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and what about the advantages you get after taking milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:373", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6031039529671238, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what do you get in the body?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The body like milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and what about the advantages you get after taking milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is none, you find that ghee is the only thing in that milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother if you compare the time you were young and nowadays how is the availability of milk do you think it has reduced or increased?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:375", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6701155032968042, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The body like milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and what about the advantages you get after taking milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is none, you find that ghee is the only thing in that milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother if you compare the time you were young and nowadays how is the availability of milk do you think it has reduced or increased?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why has the milk availability reduced?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:377", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7445727814408936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is none, you find that ghee is the only thing in that milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother if you compare the time you were young and nowadays how is the availability of milk do you think it has reduced or increased?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why has the milk availability reduced?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is because of the sun in the past there were no drought it was raining and animal pastures were available but nowadays it is too much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has happened that nowadays there is no pasture for the animals to feed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:379", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8273030904898817, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why has the milk availability reduced?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is because of the sun in the past there were no drought it was raining and animal pastures were available but nowadays it is too much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has happened that nowadays there is no pasture for the animals to feed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no rain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is happening that there is no rain nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:381", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9192256560998685, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is because of the sun in the past there were no drought it was raining and animal pastures were available but nowadays it is too much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has happened that nowadays there is no pasture for the animals to feed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no rain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is happening that there is no rain nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Apart from this reason what else has made not to get a lot of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:383", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.021361840110965, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no rain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is happening that there is no rain nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Apart from this reason what else has made not to get a lot of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason of milk reduction nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:385", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1348464890121832, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Apart from this reason what else has made not to get a lot of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason of milk reduction nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only that we do not have enough pasture for the cows to feed on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What have they done?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:387", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2609405433468701, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "mmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason of milk reduction nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only that we do not have enough pasture for the cows to feed on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What have they done?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing we are waiting for the rains to come"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from lack of rain and pasture, which other reason has made you not to get enough milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:391", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5567167201813212, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing we are waiting for the rains to come"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from lack of rain and pasture, which other reason has made you not to get enough milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can see there are no cows nowadays"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the way of living? Nowadays people have changed the way of keeping the animals that is why the milk has reduced."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:393", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7296852446459126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can see there are no cows nowadays"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the way of living? Nowadays people have changed the way of keeping the animals that is why the milk has reduced."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were still keeping them in the past so there is no relationship."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of disagreements in the community? Do you think this is a reason which has made the milk to reduce?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:395", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.921872494051014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can see there are no cows nowadays"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the way of living? Nowadays people have changed the way of keeping the animals that is why the milk has reduced."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were still keeping them in the past so there is no relationship."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of disagreements in the community? Do you think this is a reason which has made the milk to reduce?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no disagreements."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are not there?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:397", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1354138822789044, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were still keeping them in the past so there is no relationship."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the issue of disagreements in the community? Do you think this is a reason which has made the milk to reduce?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no disagreements."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are not there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is not one of the reasons?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:399", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3726820914210047, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no disagreements."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are not there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is not one of the reasons?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it is not the reason"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is the main reason of milk reduction in the Maasai community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:401", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.6363134349122275, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is not one of the reasons?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it is not the reason"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is the main reason of milk reduction in the Maasai community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What are you saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main reason that has reduced milk supply in the Maasai community here in Kambala?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:403", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8181260387913636, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it is not the reason"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is the main reason of milk reduction in the Maasai community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What are you saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main reason that has reduced milk supply in the Maasai community here in Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is the best."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How? What has made the milk unavailable?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:405", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.909028931990404, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What are you saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main reason that has reduced milk supply in the Maasai community here in Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is the best."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How? What has made the milk unavailable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk has reduced in these years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has caused this?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:407", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0100321466560045, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is the best."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How? What has made the milk unavailable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk has reduced in these years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has caused this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought and nowadays when it rains the cows do not produce a lot as they used to produce in the past and also cow have died and there are disagreements."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have said disagreements?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:409", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.122257940728894, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk has reduced in these years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What has caused this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought and nowadays when it rains the cows do not produce a lot as they used to produce in the past and also cow have died and there are disagreements."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have said disagreements?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these disagreements made you lack milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:411", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2469532674765489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought and nowadays when it rains the cows do not produce a lot as they used to produce in the past and also cow have died and there are disagreements."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have said disagreements?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these disagreements made you lack milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is there, drought is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, how has the disagreement made you lack milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:413", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3855036305294988, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have these disagreements made you lack milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is there, drought is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, how has the disagreement made you lack milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Disagreements? The people are bewitching the cows such that they cannot produce milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are bewitching?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:415", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5394484783661098, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is there, drought is there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, how has the disagreement made you lack milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Disagreements? The people are bewitching the cows such that they cannot produce milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are bewitching?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they bewitch the cows because of disagreement?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:417", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.7104983092956774, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Disagreements? The people are bewitching the cows such that they cannot produce milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are bewitching?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they bewitch the cows because of disagreement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee, the people bewitch the cows and they do not get milk again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who bewitches your cows?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:419", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.789442565884086, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they bewitch the cows because of disagreement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee, the people bewitch the cows and they do not get milk again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who bewitches your cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it is not me the incident occurred in Mikindu community they bewitched the cows on behalf of the farmers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which tribes did that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:423", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9746204517087481, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it is not me the incident occurred in Mikindu community they bewitched the cows on behalf of the farmers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which tribes did that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not know the tribes; we know there are people from Mikindu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mikindu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, What about the issue of sickness do you think this is causes milk reduction?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:425", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.08291161300972, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not know the tribes; we know there are people from Mikindu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mikindu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, What about the issue of sickness do you think this is causes milk reduction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmhuh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sickness? Cows are not dying because they are sick here or you have medicine?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:427", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2032351255663556, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, What about the issue of sickness do you think this is causes milk reduction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmhuh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sickness? Cows are not dying because they are sick here or you have medicine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is medicine but not all cows die because of pain or they are sick most of them die because of hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would like to know who is concerned with buying of food for your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:429", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3369279172959505, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmhuh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sickness? Cows are not dying because they are sick here or you have medicine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is medicine but not all cows die because of pain or they are sick most of them die because of hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would like to know who is concerned with buying of food for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what kind of foods does he buy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:431", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.4854754636621672, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is medicine but not all cows die because of pain or they are sick most of them die because of hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would like to know who is concerned with buying of food for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what kind of foods does he buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He buys flour, cassava and rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about other foods?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:433", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5394171818468525, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what kind of foods does he buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He buys flour, cassava and rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about other foods?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He buys tomatoes, cabbage, okra and African eggplant."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is making decisions of the amount of money to be used to buy food at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:437", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6659471380825339, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He buys tomatoes, cabbage, okra and African eggplant."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who is making decisions of the amount of money to be used to buy food at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The man?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your responsibility as a woman? Are you responsible for what is to be brought at home or you are not concerned?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:441", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.822156960595721, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about your responsibility as a woman? Are you responsible for what is to be brought at home or you are not concerned?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am responsible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I buy utensils, clothes and the guard; whatever I ask for is bought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, how does your family buy the food comparing with the time you were young? Who was concerned with the issue of buying food at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:443", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9135077339952455, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am responsible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I buy utensils, clothes and the guard; whatever I ask for is bought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, how does your family buy the food comparing with the time you were young? Who was concerned with the issue of buying food at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Father and mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have said that in the past your father and mother were responsible and nowadays the father is responsible for buying food. Is there any difference you can be able to see in both of them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:445", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0150085933280506, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I buy utensils, clothes and the guard; whatever I ask for is bought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, how does your family buy the food comparing with the time you were young? Who was concerned with the issue of buying food at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Father and mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have said that in the past your father and mother were responsible and nowadays the father is responsible for buying food. Is there any difference you can be able to see in both of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me the difference?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:447", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1277873259200561, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Father and mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have said that in the past your father and mother were responsible and nowadays the father is responsible for buying food. Is there any difference you can be able to see in both of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me the difference?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The difference is that I am responsible together with my husband but in the past I was not responsible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why were you not concerned in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:449", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2530970288000622, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me the difference?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The difference is that I am responsible together with my husband but in the past I was not responsible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why were you not concerned in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was not concerned because my father and mother were responsible but these days it is my husband and I."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where were you going to buy food in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:451", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.392330032000069, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The difference is that I am responsible together with my husband but in the past I was not responsible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why were you not concerned in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was not concerned because my father and mother were responsible but these days it is my husband and I."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where were you going to buy food in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past, it was my father and my mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were they going to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:453", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43592225777785454, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was not concerned because my father and mother were responsible but these days it is my husband and I."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where were you going to buy food in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past, it was my father and my mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were they going to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mikindu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in today's scenario? Where do you buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:455", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4843580641976161, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past, it was my father and my mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were they going to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mikindu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in today's scenario? Where do you buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Kambala town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How far is from here to Mikindu and compared with from here to Kambala?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:457", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5381756268862401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mikindu."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in today's scenario? Where do you buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Kambala town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How far is from here to Mikindu and compared with from here to Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mikindu is far."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this affected you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:459", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5979729187624889, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Kambala town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How far is from here to Mikindu and compared with from here to Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mikindu is far."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this affected you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People are now bringing food here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you benefit or you lose?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:461", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6644143541805432, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mikindu is far."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this affected you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "People are now bringing food here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you benefit or you lose?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have benefited a lot"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which types of foods were you going to buy mostly in Mikindu?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:463", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7382381713117147, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People are now bringing food here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you benefit or you lose?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have benefited a lot"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which types of foods were you going to buy mostly in Mikindu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only flour and cassava and also rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in today's scenario? Which types of foods do you buy in Kambala?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:465", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.820264634790794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have benefited a lot"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which types of foods were you going to buy mostly in Mikindu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only flour and cassava and also rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in today's scenario? Which types of foods do you buy in Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy all types of food here in Kambala"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which ones?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:467", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9114051497675489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only flour and cassava and also rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in today's scenario? Which types of foods do you buy in Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy all types of food here in Kambala"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like which ones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like cassava every time, bananas every time, potatoes every time, and vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about fruits?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:471", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1251915429228998, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like cassava every time, bananas every time, potatoes every time, and vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about fruits?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fruits?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you buy the fruits?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:473", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2502128254698885, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fruits?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you buy the fruits?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays people go to the markets and bring fruits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and which types of foods were found in Kambala market but they are no longer found there?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:475", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3891253616332095, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you buy the fruits?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays people go to the markets and bring fruits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and which types of foods were found in Kambala market but they are no longer found there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the foods are found there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any types of fruit which were there in the past when you were young but it is not found nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:479", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7149695822632216, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the foods are found there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any types of fruit which were there in the past when you were young but it is not found nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "“Ubuyu” (baobab fruits)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And sugar in the past I used to get it from far, but everything nowadays is near."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and which types of food do you prepare for your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:481", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9055217580702462, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "“Ubuyu” (baobab fruits)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And sugar in the past I used to get it from far, but everything nowadays is near."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and which types of food do you prepare for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali, rice and even cassava."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:483", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.117246397855829, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And sugar in the past I used to get it from far, but everything nowadays is near."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and which types of food do you prepare for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali, rice and even cassava."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cook them then serve the children and serve the man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Starting with rice, how do you cook rice?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:485", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3524959976175874, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ugali, rice and even cassava."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you prepare them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cook them then serve the children and serve the man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Starting with rice, how do you cook rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I fry the onion and put water then put rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about on the side of cassavas, how do you prepare them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:487", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6138844417973193, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cook them then serve the children and serve the man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Starting with rice, how do you cook rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I fry the onion and put water then put rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about on the side of cassavas, how do you prepare them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I peel them; wash then cook but cover them and put some salt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of oil do you use?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:489", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.904316046441466, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I fry the onion and put water then put rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about on the side of cassavas, how do you prepare them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I peel them; wash then cook but cover them and put some salt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of oil do you use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not use oil\t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do not use oil?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:491", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1159067182682954, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I peel them; wash then cook but cover them and put some salt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of oil do you use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not use oil\t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do not use oil?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cassava does not need oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about rice?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:493", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3510074647425503, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not use oil\t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You do not use oil?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cassava does not need oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I use oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of oil do you use?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:495", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.6122305163806114, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cassava does not need oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about rice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I use oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of oil do you use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cooking oil or Ghee if you have it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of oil were you using in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:497", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7913672404229013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I use oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of oil do you use?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cooking oil or Ghee if you have it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of oil were you using in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we were using ghee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:499", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9904080449143347, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cooking oil or Ghee if you have it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of oil were you using in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we were using ghee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cooking oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you using onion, tomatoes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:501", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2115644943492607, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we were using ghee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cooking oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you using onion, tomatoes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were using only meat and ghee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about nowadays?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:503", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4572938826102897, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cooking oil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you using onion, tomatoes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were using only meat and ghee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We use everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Mother I would like to know the things which makes you cook the types of food you cook for your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:505", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.730326536233655, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were using only meat and ghee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about nowadays?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We use everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Mother I would like to know the things which makes you cook the types of food you cook for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What drives you to cook whatever you cook for your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:511", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.41197055724781184, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only the need determines what I cook in that day. If that day I want to cook Kande I will cook or if I want to cook Ugali I will cook. I cook the food which I want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, you have told me that the need drives you to cook whatever you want, whose need is it? Is it the children's need, your need or your husband's need?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:513", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.45774506360867984, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "mmm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only the need determines what I cook in that day. If that day I want to cook Kande I will cook or if I want to cook Ugali I will cook. I cook the food which I want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, you have told me that the need drives you to cook whatever you want, whose need is it? Is it the children's need, your need or your husband's need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If today I need to eat this type of food I will cook, children do not refuse something which I personally need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the need, what else makes you cook whatever you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:517", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5651173624798516, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If today I need to eat this type of food I will cook, children do not refuse something which I personally need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from the need, what else makes you cook whatever you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which other things?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Availability of food if I have a certain food in the house I will cook that food but it is not by other people telling me that I should cook this or that food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else makes you cook whatever you cook apart from when you have the food in the house?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:519", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6279081805331684, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which other things?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Availability of food if I have a certain food in the house I will cook that food but it is not by other people telling me that I should cook this or that food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else makes you cook whatever you cook apart from when you have the food in the house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Every day I cook .Today I cook ugali children are the ones crying of hunger if there is milk I do not cook in the evening we will take milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why is it that if you decide to cook ugali or rice, what propels you to make such decisions? Is it because the children want you to cook or it is easy to cook or it is readily available?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:521", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.697675756147965, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Availability of food if I have a certain food in the house I will cook that food but it is not by other people telling me that I should cook this or that food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else makes you cook whatever you cook apart from when you have the food in the house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Every day I cook .Today I cook ugali children are the ones crying of hunger if there is milk I do not cook in the evening we will take milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why is it that if you decide to cook ugali or rice, what propels you to make such decisions? Is it because the children want you to cook or it is easy to cook or it is readily available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only me who cooks food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cooking because the father has decided that you should cook that food? He likes it and wants you to cook it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:523", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7751952846088499, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Every day I cook .Today I cook ugali children are the ones crying of hunger if there is milk I do not cook in the evening we will take milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why is it that if you decide to cook ugali or rice, what propels you to make such decisions? Is it because the children want you to cook or it is easy to cook or it is readily available?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only me who cooks food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cooking because the father has decided that you should cook that food? He likes it and wants you to cook it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if the father wants you to cook a certain food? Can it be a reason which drives you to cook that food or not?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:525", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8613280940098332, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is only me who cooks food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cooking because the father has decided that you should cook that food? He likes it and wants you to cook it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if the father wants you to cook a certain food? Can it be a reason which drives you to cook that food or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If there is that food which he needs he says that we should cook that food in that day and we cook it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the easiness of cooking that food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:527", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9570312155664814, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if the father wants you to cook a certain food? Can it be a reason which drives you to cook that food or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If there is that food which he needs he says that we should cook that food in that day and we cook it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the easiness of cooking that food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The easiness of cooking that food? Do you think this is a reason of cooking what you want to cook, example if you cook rice its easier to cook, you just put some water and cook , if its ugali it is tedious because you have to stir. Do you think this is a reason for cooking a certain type of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:529", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0633680172960904, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If there is that food which he needs he says that we should cook that food in that day and we cook it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the easiness of cooking that food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The easiness of cooking that food? Do you think this is a reason of cooking what you want to cook, example if you cook rice its easier to cook, you just put some water and cook , if its ugali it is tedious because you have to stir. Do you think this is a reason for cooking a certain type of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes if it is ugali you put small amount of water and then you go. Not clear"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the easiness is also a concern?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:531", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1815200192178783, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The easiness of cooking that food? Do you think this is a reason of cooking what you want to cook, example if you cook rice its easier to cook, you just put some water and cook , if its ugali it is tedious because you have to stir. Do you think this is a reason for cooking a certain type of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes if it is ugali you put small amount of water and then you go. Not clear"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the easiness is also a concern?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee, the food is the one which is easy to cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned very many reasons. The first one you me is the need that makes you to cook the food which you cook, second is the availability of the food at home, if it is there you just cook, the third one is if the father needs a certain food you cook it and the forth reason is the easiness of cooking the food such that if you want to cook rice you just put water and rice and leave it. So which is the main reason that drives you to cook the food you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:533", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.312800021353198, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes if it is ugali you put small amount of water and then you go. Not clear"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the easiness is also a concern?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee, the food is the one which is easy to cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned very many reasons. The first one you me is the need that makes you to cook the food which you cook, second is the availability of the food at home, if it is there you just cook, the third one is if the father needs a certain food you cook it and the forth reason is the easiness of cooking the food such that if you want to cook rice you just put water and rice and leave it. So which is the main reason that drives you to cook the food you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean what is the first thing that drives you to cook what you cook for your family is it a need, or availability or easiness or father’s need?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:535", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4586666903924423, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee, the food is the one which is easy to cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have mentioned very many reasons. The first one you me is the need that makes you to cook the food which you cook, second is the availability of the food at home, if it is there you just cook, the third one is if the father needs a certain food you cook it and the forth reason is the easiness of cooking the food such that if you want to cook rice you just put water and rice and leave it. So which is the main reason that drives you to cook the food you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean what is the first thing that drives you to cook what you cook for your family is it a need, or availability or easiness or father’s need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first one is food; I decide the type of food I should cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is the first one?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:537", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6207407671027136, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean what is the first thing that drives you to cook what you cook for your family is it a need, or availability or easiness or father’s need?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first one is food; I decide the type of food I should cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is the first one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the second reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:539", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8008230745585707, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first one is food; I decide the type of food I should cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is the first one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the second reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The second one is I cook for my children example if they have just arrived home so I will make the food which is easy to prepare like rice or ugali it depends."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The third one?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:541", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.000914527287301, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the second reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The second one is I cook for my children example if they have just arrived home so I will make the food which is easy to prepare like rice or ugali it depends."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The third one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There isn't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have remained with two reasons so which among these is the third reason is it availability of food in the house or the father’s needs?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:543", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2232383636525563, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The second one is I cook for my children example if they have just arrived home so I will make the food which is easy to prepare like rice or ugali it depends."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The third one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There isn't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have remained with two reasons so which among these is the third reason is it availability of food in the house or the father’s needs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is better?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeee, meaning which one comes first and makes you to cook that food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:545", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4702648485028402, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There isn't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have remained with two reasons so which among these is the third reason is it availability of food in the house or the father’s needs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is better?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeee, meaning which one comes first and makes you to cook that food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is the one who makes me to cook that food; I kindle the fire and cook food quickly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is the first one"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:547", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7447387205587113, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is better?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeeee, meaning which one comes first and makes you to cook that food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is the one who makes me to cook that food; I kindle the fire and cook food quickly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is the first one"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The second one you have told me is the easiness?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:549", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.049709689509679, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is the one who makes me to cook that food; I kindle the fire and cook food quickly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is the first one"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The second one you have told me is the easiness?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is the third one that makes you to cook that food between the availability of food in the house and if the father’s needs? Which one comes first?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:551", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.388566321677421, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The second one you have told me is the easiness?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is the third one that makes you to cook that food between the availability of food in the house and if the father’s needs? Which one comes first?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Onion comes first."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. I am grateful we have completed that part, let us discuss another part which is concerned with the alternative ways of encountering various disasters. I mean the ones you were using when you were young and now when you are mature. First and fore most I would like to know if you experienced a food shortage when you were a small girl and how did you encounter it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:553", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.76507369075269, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is the third one that makes you to cook that food between the availability of food in the house and if the father’s needs? Which one comes first?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Onion comes first."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. I am grateful we have completed that part, let us discuss another part which is concerned with the alternative ways of encountering various disasters. I mean the ones you were using when you were young and now when you are mature. First and fore most I would like to know if you experienced a food shortage when you were a small girl and how did you encounter it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What time?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The time you had food shortage in your Community, Which year was that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:561", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.08394100099480185, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So four years back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the fourth year since the food shortage has been experienced in Kambala."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Four years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since the food is over?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:563", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.09326777888311316, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the fourth year since the food shortage has been experienced in Kambala."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Four years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since the food is over?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about by the time you were young was there any problem of food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:565", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.10363086542568128, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since the food is over?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about by the time you were young was there any problem of food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No there was no food shortage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was not there?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:567", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.11514540602853476, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about by the time you were young was there any problem of food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No there was no food shortage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was not there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It has now been there for four years?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:569", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1279393400317053, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No there was no food shortage."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was not there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It has now been there for four years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, What made you lack food in Kambala?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:571", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.14215482225745033, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It has now been there for four years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, What made you lack food in Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows were dying that is why we are facing hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is the main reason that has made the cows to die?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:573", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.15794980250827814, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, What made you lack food in Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows were dying that is why we are facing hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is the main reason that has made the cows to die?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the reason that has made the cows to die?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:575", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1754997805647535, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows were dying that is why we are facing hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which is the main reason that has made the cows to die?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the reason that has made the cows to die?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are dying because of hunger there is no grass for the cows to feed on, in the past they were never finished but in these days the grass are over and that is why we are facing hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you overcome this food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:577", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.19499975618305943, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the reason that has made the cows to die?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are dying because of hunger there is no grass for the cows to feed on, in the past they were never finished but in these days the grass are over and that is why we are facing hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you overcome this food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have milk so nowadays we are eating various types of vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Nowadays you eat vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:579", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2166663957589549, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "they are dying because of hunger there is no grass for the cows to feed on, in the past they were never finished but in these days the grass are over and that is why we are facing hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you overcome this food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have milk so nowadays we are eating various types of vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Nowadays you eat vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Milk is over and you have decided to eat vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:581", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.24074043973217213, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have milk so nowadays we are eating various types of vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Nowadays you eat vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Milk is over and you have decided to eat vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other way have you used to overcome this disaster apart from eating the vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:583", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.26748937748019125, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Milk is over and you have decided to eat vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other way have you used to overcome this disaster apart from eating the vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just sit. There are no ways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What have you done? Probably you have sold the cows, or you have moved them to your neighbours, what have you done to overcome the food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:585", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2972104194224347, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other way have you used to overcome this disaster apart from eating the vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just sit. There are no ways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What have you done? Probably you have sold the cows, or you have moved them to your neighbours, what have you done to overcome the food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee, that is what we did, I took cows to my brother who lives near the river. So now my people are eating vegetables and black tea with sugar because there is no milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have changed the way of life because there is no rain?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:587", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.33023379935826075, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just sit. There are no ways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What have you done? Probably you have sold the cows, or you have moved them to your neighbours, what have you done to overcome the food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee, that is what we did, I took cows to my brother who lives near the river. So now my people are eating vegetables and black tea with sugar because there is no milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have changed the way of life because there is no rain?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you have taken your cows to your relatives?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:589", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3669264437314008, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee, that is what we did, I took cows to my brother who lives near the river. So now my people are eating vegetables and black tea with sugar because there is no milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have changed the way of life because there is no rain?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you have taken your cows to your relatives?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the children? How do they overcome this disaster? What do they eat so that they can live? Which activities do you engage yourself in so that you can live?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:591", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.40769604859044534, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you have taken your cows to your relatives?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the children? How do they overcome this disaster? What do they eat so that they can live? Which activities do you engage yourself in so that you can live?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sell the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You sell the cows?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:593", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4529956095449393, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the children? How do they overcome this disaster? What do they eat so that they can live? Which activities do you engage yourself in so that you can live?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sell the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You sell the cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from selling the cows, which other activity do you do?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:595", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5033284550499325, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sell the cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You sell the cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from selling the cows, which other activity do you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and who are the major victims of hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:597", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5592538389443694, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from selling the cows, which other activity do you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and who are the major victims of hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which group has been mostly affected by this food shortage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:599", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6213931543826327, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and who are the major victims of hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which group has been mostly affected by this food shortage?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which Group?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has been mainly affected by the problem?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:603", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7671520424476945, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which Group?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Has been mainly affected by the problem?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only the men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying the men?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:605", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8523911582752162, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only the men."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying the men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the men because they are the one’s suffering?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The men? Who are these men?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:607", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9471012869724624, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying the men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the men because they are the one’s suffering?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The men? Who are these men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The fathers, men in general."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeee, the men are the ones suffering?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:609", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.052334763302736, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the men because they are the one’s suffering?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The men? Who are these men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The fathers, men in general."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeee, the men are the ones suffering?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are they suffering? ##P 470## They suffer in getting the cows to the auction some of them they mill and the other people pay.\n\nWhat about changing your eating portions may be you eat a little portion than what you used to eat do you think that could be one of the alternative to overcome hunger because you will have food for a longer period."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:611", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.05814973700304011, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The fathers, men in general."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eeee, the men are the ones suffering?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are they suffering? ##P 470## They suffer in getting the cows to the auction some of them they mill and the other people pay.\n\nWhat about changing your eating portions may be you eat a little portion than what you used to eat do you think that could be one of the alternative to overcome hunger because you will have food for a longer period."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not reduced the way we were eating; our problem is milk for example if you have a cupful of milk you will eat Ugali until you are satisfied and nowadays we eat bananas, cassavas and others. Health does not come only if you take black tea in the morning and eating lunch at around one or two in the afternoon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your health has deteriorated?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:613", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.06461081889226679, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are they suffering? ##P 470## They suffer in getting the cows to the auction some of them they mill and the other people pay.\n\nWhat about changing your eating portions may be you eat a little portion than what you used to eat do you think that could be one of the alternative to overcome hunger because you will have food for a longer period."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not reduced the way we were eating; our problem is milk for example if you have a cupful of milk you will eat Ugali until you are satisfied and nowadays we eat bananas, cassavas and others. Health does not come only if you take black tea in the morning and eating lunch at around one or two in the afternoon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your health has deteriorated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has it deteriorate?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:615", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07178979876918531, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have not reduced the way we were eating; our problem is milk for example if you have a cupful of milk you will eat Ugali until you are satisfied and nowadays we eat bananas, cassavas and others. Health does not come only if you take black tea in the morning and eating lunch at around one or two in the afternoon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your health has deteriorated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has it deteriorate?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are not energetic if there is no milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, I am grateful because of your good answers. We are almost coming to the end of our conversation but I would like us to add few questions for conclusion."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:617", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07976644307687257, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has it deteriorate?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are not energetic if there is no milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, I am grateful because of your good answers. We are almost coming to the end of our conversation but I would like us to add few questions for conclusion."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know, how people in this community get to know about the issues of food so that they can have good health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:619", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.08862938119652508, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are not energetic if there is no milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, I am grateful because of your good answers. We are almost coming to the end of our conversation but I would like us to add few questions for conclusion."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know, how people in this community get to know about the issues of food so that they can have good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where they get this education? I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you get education on what to eat, the issues of good health, the issues of eating healthy food. Where did you get it from?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:621", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0984770902183612, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know, how people in this community get to know about the issues of food so that they can have good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where they get this education? I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you get education on what to eat, the issues of good health, the issues of eating healthy food. Where did you get it from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was given by God."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He has given you education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:623", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.10941898913151243, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where they get this education? I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you get education on what to eat, the issues of good health, the issues of eating healthy food. Where did you get it from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was given by God."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He has given you education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did not hear from a person even saying “we should be eating well made food”, or we should be doing this so that we can have good health, we should be eating bananas, we should be eating cassavas\" you have not heard that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:625", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12157665459056936, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was given by God."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He has given you education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did not hear from a person even saying “we should be eating well made food”, or we should be doing this so that we can have good health, we should be eating bananas, we should be eating cassavas\" you have not heard that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahah, I only see people buying and I also buy but not a person telling me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not been educated on the issues of feeding?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:627", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13508517176729928, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did not hear from a person even saying “we should be eating well made food”, or we should be doing this so that we can have good health, we should be eating bananas, we should be eating cassavas\" you have not heard that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahah, I only see people buying and I also buy but not a person telling me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have not been educated on the issues of feeding?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I would like to know if we bring the education concerning the way of eating, the issues of food, the forms of eating, how will you benefit from it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:631", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.16677181699666577, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I would like to know if we bring the education concerning the way of eating, the issues of food, the forms of eating, how will you benefit from it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That education?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If we bring it and came to educate the people of Kambala on issues concerning the ways of eating, education about the foods, how do you think you will benefit from it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:633", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1853020188851842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That education?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If we bring it and came to educate the people of Kambala on issues concerning the ways of eating, education about the foods, how do you think you will benefit from it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good, those who will listen are the ones who will benefit from it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which benefits are you going to get?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:635", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2058911320946491, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If we bring it and came to educate the people of Kambala on issues concerning the ways of eating, education about the foods, how do you think you will benefit from it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good, those who will listen are the ones who will benefit from it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which benefits are you going to get?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are going to benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which benefits? I would like to know the benefits which you are going to have."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:637", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22876792454961012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good, those who will listen are the ones who will benefit from it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which benefits are you going to get?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are going to benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which benefits? I would like to know the benefits which you are going to have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like when you give us cows, we get a benefit, we will eat well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May you explain in details"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:639", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25418658283290013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are going to benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which benefits? I would like to know the benefits which you are going to have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like when you give us cows, we get a benefit, we will eat well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May you explain in details"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What am I saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For example if we come to educate you on the ways of eating, the issues of foods, so that you can have a good health, which benefit do you think you will get from it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:641", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.28242953648100017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like when you give us cows, we get a benefit, we will eat well"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May you explain in details"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What am I saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For example if we come to educate you on the ways of eating, the issues of foods, so that you can have a good health, which benefit do you think you will get from it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which are the benefits? I would like to know the benefits."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:643", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.31381059609000017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What am I saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For example if we come to educate you on the ways of eating, the issues of foods, so that you can have a good health, which benefit do you think you will get from it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which are the benefits? I would like to know the benefits."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do you want to know the benefits it will get?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm, how will it help you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:645", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.34867844010000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which are the benefits? I would like to know the benefits."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do you want to know the benefits it will get?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm, how will it help you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "How it will help us?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, so you do not know the benefits you will get?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:647", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.38742048900000015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do you want to know the benefits it will get?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmm, how will it help you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "How it will help us?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, so you do not know the benefits you will get?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmhuh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you think this education about the nutrition should be brought to you so that it can reach all of you? Should we bring it in the churches, or schools or health centers or we broadcast it in the radios so that you can be listening on what to eat healthy foods, how do you think this education should be brought so that it can reach you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:651", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmhuh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you think this education about the nutrition should be brought to you so that it can reach all of you? Should we bring it in the churches, or schools or health centers or we broadcast it in the radios so that you can be listening on what to eat healthy foods, how do you think this education should be brought so that it can reach you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that it can reach us. You only come to the children's school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Children's schools?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We Go and tell the children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:653", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5314410000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that it can reach us. You only come to the children's school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Children's schools?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We Go and tell the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahah, you call people to come there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ooh, you come as a group or a meeting?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:655", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We Go and tell the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahah, you call people to come there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ooh, you come as a group or a meeting?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that the education can reach you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:657", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ahah, you call people to come there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ooh, you come as a group or a meeting?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that the education can reach you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about if we do it to the churches? We just tell you in the churches, do you think you will benefit?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:659", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that the education can reach you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeee."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about if we do it to the churches? We just tell you in the churches, do you think you will benefit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee, we will benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But which one do you prefer?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:663", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eee, we will benefit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But which one do you prefer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "let it be a meeting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A meeting?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who do you think is the best person to bring the education? The one who can bring the education to all?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:667", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who do you think is the best person to bring the education? The one who can bring the education to all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The chairman."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The chairman?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which chairman? Is it a village chairman or?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:669", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The chairman."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The chairman?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which chairman? Is it a village chairman or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Local area chairman."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is the one who can bring the education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00024:671", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which chairman? Is it a village chairman or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Local area chairman."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is the one who can bring the education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother I am grateful of your good answers, we have come to the end of our conversation, Thank you very much."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7259623757717332, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Before you got married to Mr L., which type of homestead did you live in were there more than one household where for example you would go to uncles, aunties or grandmother’s house to eat food or it was just an independent household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were living in a big homestead because my father had five wives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you were able to eat in more than one house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you can eat to your mother’s house then you go to your step mother to eat like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the duties and responsibilities of women, girls and boys starting with girls?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8066248619685924, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were living in a big homestead because my father had five wives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you were able to eat in more than one house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you can eat to your mother’s house then you go to your step mother to eat like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the duties and responsibilities of women, girls and boys starting with girls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Girls were not allocated any work they were just there only that we were going to graze the cattle when (layon) boys are sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cooking?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8962498466317693, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you can eat to your mother’s house then you go to your step mother to eat like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the duties and responsibilities of women, girls and boys starting with girls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Girls were not allocated any work they were just there only that we were going to graze the cattle when (layon) boys are sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cooking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother is the one cooking until we were big girls we were helping my mother to cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about washing clothes."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9958331629241881, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Girls were not allocated any work they were just there only that we were going to graze the cattle when (layon) boys are sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about cooking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother is the one cooking until we were big girls we were helping my mother to cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about washing clothes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were washing our clothes and also washing dishes as we as guard and milking cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about boys what were their main duties and responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1064812921379867, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother is the one cooking until we were big girls we were helping my mother to cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about washing clothes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were washing our clothes and also washing dishes as we as guard and milking cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about boys what were their main duties and responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their main work was to graze animals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were your mother main duties and responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2294236579310964, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were washing our clothes and also washing dishes as we as guard and milking cows."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about boys what were their main duties and responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their main work was to graze animals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were your mother main duties and responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Her responsibilities were cooking, fetching water, washing dishes, fetching firewood, milking cows, all the house hold chores and they were many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your father?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3660262865901072, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their main work was to graze animals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were your mother main duties and responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Her responsibilities were cooking, fetching water, washing dishes, fetching firewood, milking cows, all the house hold chores and they were many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your father?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father did not have so much to do especially when his male children were big he was guiding/training them on how to take good care of the cows, to treat his livestock whenever they are sick, in short he was responsible for his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did you used to eat those days."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.517806985100119, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Her responsibilities were cooking, fetching water, washing dishes, fetching firewood, milking cows, all the house hold chores and they were many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your father?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father did not have so much to do especially when his male children were big he was guiding/training them on how to take good care of the cows, to treat his livestock whenever they are sick, in short he was responsible for his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did you used to eat those days."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk, blood and ugali but rarely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the food which is infrequently eaten?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5753410945556877, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father did not have so much to do especially when his male children were big he was guiding/training them on how to take good care of the cows, to treat his livestock whenever they are sick, in short he was responsible for his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did you used to eat those days."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk, blood and ugali but rarely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the food which is infrequently eaten?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Kande (mixture of cracked/dehulled maize and beans), Makuku (boiled maize so you can boil maize and beans but if you do not have beans you just boil maize only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there any special food that was eaten by men and not women in your community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.639267882839653, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk, blood and ugali but rarely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the food which is infrequently eaten?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Kande (mixture of cracked/dehulled maize and beans), Makuku (boiled maize so you can boil maize and beans but if you do not have beans you just boil maize only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there any special food that was eaten by men and not women in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. We eat the same food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you eat together."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7102976475996143, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Kande (mixture of cracked/dehulled maize and beans), Makuku (boiled maize so you can boil maize and beans but if you do not have beans you just boil maize only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there any special food that was eaten by men and not women in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. We eat the same food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you eat together."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, you serve male children together with the father and female children eat with their mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me you were eating ugali, so were you farmer?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.789219608444016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. We eat the same food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you eat together."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, you serve male children together with the father and female children eat with their mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me you were eating ugali, so were you farmer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, were not farmers we used to buy maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who used to go to the market to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8769106760489066, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, you serve male children together with the father and female children eat with their mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me you were eating ugali, so were you farmer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, were not farmers we used to buy maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who used to go to the market to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you were young do you remember who used to make decision on food matters for example the food got finished she was discussing with the father and you children or you were not involved?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9743451956098962, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, were not farmers we used to buy maize."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who used to go to the market to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you were young do you remember who used to make decision on food matters for example the food got finished she was discussing with the father and you children or you were not involved?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother and my father used to discuss they were not involving us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your community when you say a child has grown up to become an adult man or adult woman how do you know or what do you look at in order to acknowledge that he/she is now a grown-up man/ woman?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0826057728998846, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you were young do you remember who used to make decision on food matters for example the food got finished she was discussing with the father and you children or you were not involved?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother and my father used to discuss they were not involving us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your community when you say a child has grown up to become an adult man or adult woman how do you know or what do you look at in order to acknowledge that he/she is now a grown-up man/ woman?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A female child or a male child?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us start with a male child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.202895303222094, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother and my father used to discuss they were not involving us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your community when you say a child has grown up to become an adult man or adult woman how do you know or what do you look at in order to acknowledge that he/she is now a grown-up man/ woman?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A female child or a male child?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us start with a male child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For a male I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about a female child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3365503369134377, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A female child or a male child?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let us start with a male child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For a male I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about a female child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She will become big."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean she becomes tall and fat or what is it that you are looking?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4850559299038197, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For a male I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about a female child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She will become big."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean she becomes tall and fat or what is it that you are looking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She becomes fat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the one who is naturally thin?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6500621443375774, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She will become big."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean she becomes tall and fat or what is it that you are looking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She becomes fat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the one who is naturally thin?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even if she is thin but when she has grown up she will change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what else are you looking for?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.833402382597308, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She becomes fat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the one who is naturally thin?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even if she is thin but when she has grown up she will change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what else are you looking for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She will start her menstruation period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay then after you have realised that she is now a grown up person then what else are you doing for her? Will she be dance for or?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0371137584414534, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even if she is thin but when she has grown up she will change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what else are you looking for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She will start her menstruation period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay then after you have realised that she is now a grown up person then what else are you doing for her? Will she be dance for or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, She will be danced for, that was our initiation ceremony."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So from there?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.263459731601615, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She will start her menstruation period."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay then after you have realised that she is now a grown up person then what else are you doing for her? Will she be dance for or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, She will be danced for, that was our initiation ceremony."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So from there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From there she can get married you know those days we were not going to school so it was after you were danced for you get married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how old will she be when she is danced for?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4038441462240165, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, She will be danced for, that was our initiation ceremony."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So from there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From there she can get married you know those days we were not going to school so it was after you were danced for you get married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how old will she be when she is danced for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About15 -17 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about is she is going to school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5598268291377961, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From there she can get married you know those days we were not going to school so it was after you were danced for you get married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how old will she be when she is danced for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About15 -17 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about is she is going to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She will be danced for?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even if she has not finished school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.733140921264218, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "About15 -17 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about is she is going to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She will be danced for?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even if she has not finished school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, she will be danced for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how many days will the ceremony last?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8146010236269089, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She will be danced for?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even if she has not finished school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, she will be danced for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how many days will the ceremony last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that they are doing on that initiation ceremony?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9051122484743432, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh, she will be danced for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how many days will the ceremony last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that they are doing on that initiation ceremony?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing it is a ceremony like any other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There is nothing like may be grandmothers or aunties talking to her advising her on some issues?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0056802760826036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two days."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it that they are doing on that initiation ceremony?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing it is a ceremony like any other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There is nothing like may be grandmothers or aunties talking to her advising her on some issues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, us Maasai we do not do that. For us is you slaughter a cow prepare a lot of food for people to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are men danced for?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1174225289806705, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing it is a ceremony like any other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There is nothing like may be grandmothers or aunties talking to her advising her on some issues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, us Maasai we do not do that. For us is you slaughter a cow prepare a lot of food for people to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are men danced for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of a ceremony is that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2415805877563006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, us Maasai we do not do that. For us is you slaughter a cow prepare a lot of food for people to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are men danced for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of a ceremony is that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is called initiation ceremony."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are you doing so as to earn a living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3795339863958895, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of a ceremony is that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is called initiation ceremony."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are you doing so as to earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have any other work apart from livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you also farm isn’t it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5328155404398771, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is called initiation ceremony."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are you doing so as to earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have any other work apart from livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you also farm isn’t it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes but it is something small."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you harvest last year?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.70312837826653, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We do not have any other work apart from livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you also farm isn’t it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes but it is something small."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you harvest last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many bags did you harvest?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8923648647405888, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes but it is something small."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you harvest last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many bags did you harvest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two bags."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is only maize you are planted?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.102627627489543, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many bags did you harvest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two bags."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is only maize you are planted?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me you have big children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.3362529194328254, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two bags."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is only maize you are planted?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me you have big children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are their duties and responsibilities of your male and female children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3736143549253617, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me you have big children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are their duties and responsibilities of your male and female children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First born responsibility is take cattle for grazing and the second born is in school so he does not work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Is there anyone in your family who attended school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4151270610281797, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are their duties and responsibilities of your male and female children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First born responsibility is take cattle for grazing and the second born is in school so he does not work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Is there anyone in your family who attended school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Four of my siblings attended school but up to class seven and some of them did not finish class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And all of your children are going to school?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.46125229003131074, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First born responsibility is take cattle for grazing and the second born is in school so he does not work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Is there anyone in your family who attended school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Four of my siblings attended school but up to class seven and some of them did not finish class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And all of your children are going to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The big ones attended school up to class seven but they did not continue to secondary school because they did not pass their national examination."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the rest?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5125025444792342, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Four of my siblings attended school but up to class seven and some of them did not finish class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And all of your children are going to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The big ones attended school up to class seven but they did not continue to secondary school because they did not pass their national examination."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the rest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This two are going to school and the rest are small they have not yet started school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a big girl child?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5694472716435935, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The big ones attended school up to class seven but they did not continue to secondary school because they did not pass their national examination."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the rest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This two are going to school and the rest are small they have not yet started school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a big girl child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, she is married, but at the moment she is here?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is she here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.632719190715104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This two are going to school and the rest are small they have not yet started school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have a big girl child?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, she is married, but at the moment she is here?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is she here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because she is not in good terms with her husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is she the one I saw when I was here last?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7030213230167822, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, she is married, but at the moment she is here?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is she here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because she is not in good terms with her husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is she the one I saw when I was here last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, she is the one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any food that was eaten in the past but you are not eaten nowadays and the food that you are eating nowadays and you were not eating in the past and also there are methods of cooking food you used in the past but you are not using nowadays, is it true that there are changes so far?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7811348033519803, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because she is not in good terms with her husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is she the one I saw when I was here last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, she is the one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any food that was eaten in the past but you are not eaten nowadays and the food that you are eating nowadays and you were not eating in the past and also there are methods of cooking food you used in the past but you are not using nowadays, is it true that there are changes so far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. In the past we used to eat vegetables from the wild like wild jute mallow, not like now we prepare a stew made of potatoes and onions,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Also nowadays you are able to buy vegetables."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.867927559279978, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, she is the one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any food that was eaten in the past but you are not eaten nowadays and the food that you are eating nowadays and you were not eating in the past and also there are methods of cooking food you used in the past but you are not using nowadays, is it true that there are changes so far?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. In the past we used to eat vegetables from the wild like wild jute mallow, not like now we prepare a stew made of potatoes and onions,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Also nowadays you are able to buy vegetables."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes nowadays we buy maize flour, beans and you fry them nicely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food did you prepare in a certain way but nowadays you have changed the method of preparation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.964363954755531, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. In the past we used to eat vegetables from the wild like wild jute mallow, not like now we prepare a stew made of potatoes and onions,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Also nowadays you are able to buy vegetables."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes nowadays we buy maize flour, beans and you fry them nicely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food did you prepare in a certain way but nowadays you have changed the method of preparation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh, tell me."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0715155052839234, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes nowadays we buy maize flour, beans and you fry them nicely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food did you prepare in a certain way but nowadays you have changed the method of preparation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh, tell me."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to pick them from the wild wash them then we boil and then we add milk,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And nowadays how do you prepare them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1905727836488036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh, tell me."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to pick them from the wild wash them then we boil and then we add milk,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And nowadays how do you prepare them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You fry them with onions and tomatoes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have changed the method of cooking?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3228586484986706, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to pick them from the wild wash them then we boil and then we add milk,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And nowadays how do you prepare them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You fry them with onions and tomatoes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have changed the method of cooking?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you think of all these changes like nowadays there is chips enriched with eggs first of all have you ever eaten Chips?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6331588253070006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you think of all these changes like nowadays there is chips enriched with eggs first of all have you ever eaten Chips?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And chicken?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about fish?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8146209170077785, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And chicken?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about fish?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I do not like fish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the cause of all these changes because in the past you used to eat meat, milk and ugali but nowadays you are eating different kind of food so what do you think is the cause of these change is it that there is no milk like in the past or what is it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.016245463341976, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about fish?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I do not like fish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the cause of all these changes because in the past you used to eat meat, milk and ugali but nowadays you are eating different kind of food so what do you think is the cause of these change is it that there is no milk like in the past or what is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is there it is just that nowadays there are varieties of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is because the food is available that is why you are eating them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2402727370466398, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I do not like fish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think is the cause of all these changes because in the past you used to eat meat, milk and ugali but nowadays you are eating different kind of food so what do you think is the cause of these change is it that there is no milk like in the past or what is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is there it is just that nowadays there are varieties of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is because the food is available that is why you are eating them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "OH yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or is it that nowadays people have money or?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.4891919300518217, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk is there it is just that nowadays there are varieties of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is because the food is available that is why you are eating them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "OH yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or is it that nowadays people have money or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hahahahaaa may be men have money and they do not tell us because as women we do not have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart for Maasai which other tribe is here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.6546577000575797, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OH yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or is it that nowadays people have money or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hahahahaaa may be men have money and they do not tell us because as women we do not have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart for Maasai which other tribe is here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are Gogo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it is not that you imitate Gogo food preparation."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.727397444508422, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hahahahaaa may be men have money and they do not tell us because as women we do not have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart for Maasai which other tribe is here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are Gogo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, it is not that you imitate Gogo food preparation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think so because Gogo eat almost like us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is not because of interaction with other tribes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8980215364301506, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not think so because Gogo eat almost like us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is not because of interaction with other tribes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, May be because we are somehow educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So nowadays you are eating rice, eggs, pilau?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9978017071446117, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, May be because we are somehow educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So nowadays you are eating rice, eggs, pilau?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we are eating everything even my husband eat everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think these changes are good or bad?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.108668563494013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So nowadays you are eating rice, eggs, pilau?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we are eating everything even my husband eat everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think these changes are good or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are good because they eat what they like"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think Maasai are changing to something else?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2318539594377922, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we are eating everything even my husband eat everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think these changes are good or bad?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are good because they eat what they like"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think Maasai are changing to something else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No they won’t change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think they will be able to graze their animals like in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3687266215975469, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are good because they eat what they like"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think Maasai are changing to something else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No they won’t change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think they will be able to graze their animals like in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it is not true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, is milk important to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5208073573306076, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No they won’t change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think they will be able to graze their animals like in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it is not true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, is milk important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, milk is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it important?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5786748414784528, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No it is not true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, is milk important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, milk is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we use milk as relish to eat with Ugali because we do not have vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was milk important to you between when you were young and now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6429720460871697, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, milk is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we use milk as relish to eat with Ugali because we do not have vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was milk important to you between when you were young and now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the time milk is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it’s importance is only when you eat with ugali?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7144133845412997, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes we use milk as relish to eat with Ugali because we do not have vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was milk important to you between when you were young and now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the time milk is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it’s importance is only when you eat with ugali?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, maybe I do not know any other importance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7937926494903329, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the time milk is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it’s importance is only when you eat with ugali?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, maybe I do not know any other importance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, even health and that is why when it is dry season our children are losing weight because they do not get enough milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the reason as to why milk in not available and the price has increased?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8819918327670365, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, maybe I do not know any other importance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, even health and that is why when it is dry season our children are losing weight because they do not get enough milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the reason as to why milk in not available and the price has increased?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because there is no pasture for our cows to feed on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it that there is no pasture?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0888788058852303, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because there is no pasture for our cows to feed on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it that there is no pasture?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Too much cow diseases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh what else?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2098653398724781, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because of drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Too much cow diseases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have land conflict here?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3442948220805313, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Too much cow diseases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh what else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have land conflict here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think it contributed to the shortage of milk production."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4936609134228125, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have land conflict here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think it contributed to the shortage of milk production."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh I don’t think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So between Drought and diseases which one do you think contribute more to the changes of milk production?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6596232371364583, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don’t you think it contributed to the shortage of milk production."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh I don’t think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So between Drought and diseases which one do you think contribute more to the changes of milk production?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who normally goes to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8440258190405092, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mhhh I don’t think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So between Drought and diseases which one do you think contribute more to the changes of milk production?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who normally goes to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why him and not you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.048917576711677, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who normally goes to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why him and not you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why do you send him to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2765750852351965, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why him and not you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why do you send him to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I am not the one who send him to buy food, what happens is when he is going to the auction to sell cows and if I do not have food I will tell him that I do not have this and that food then after selling the cows he will bring food home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who makes decision that you husband is the one going to buy food for family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.5295278724835515, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why do you send him to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I am not the one who send him to buy food, what happens is when he is going to the auction to sell cows and if I do not have food I will tell him that I do not have this and that food then after selling the cows he will bring food home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who makes decision that you husband is the one going to buy food for family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We all decide."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Including the children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8105865249817237, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I am not the one who send him to buy food, what happens is when he is going to the auction to sell cows and if I do not have food I will tell him that I do not have this and that food then after selling the cows he will bring food home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who makes decision that you husband is the one going to buy food for family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We all decide."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Including the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, It is me and my husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get things like vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1228739166463595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We all decide."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Including the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, It is me and my husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get things like vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Along the road."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean that road which has tarmac?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4698599073848437, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, It is me and my husband."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get things like vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Along the road."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean that road which has tarmac?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and there are other people who walk around selling vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that is how you get your vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8553998970942707, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Along the road."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean that road which has tarmac?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and there are other people who walk around selling vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that is how you get your vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were young were there people who walk around selling vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.283777663438078, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes and there are other people who walk around selling vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that is how you get your vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were young were there people who walk around selling vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food do you normally cook here at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 3.6486418482645315, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were young were there people who walk around selling vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food do you normally cook here at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes you cook the type of food you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7207131647383683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which type of food do you normally cook here at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes you cook the type of food you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Appetite only, I may decide to cook Kande today, rice tomorrow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is whose appetite is it your alone or even children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8007924052648536, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is ugali."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What makes you cook the type of food you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Appetite only, I may decide to cook Kande today, rice tomorrow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is whose appetite is it your alone or even children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even my children they will tell me mum we want rice then I will cook for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your husband?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8897693391831707, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Appetite only, I may decide to cook Kande today, rice tomorrow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is whose appetite is it your alone or even children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even my children they will tell me mum we want rice then I will cook for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your husband?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think drought contributed to the change of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9886325990924119, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even my children they will tell me mum we want rice then I will cook for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your husband?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think drought contributed to the change of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Money don’t you think it has contributed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0984806656582353, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think drought contributed to the change of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Money don’t you think it has contributed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because if you do not have money you will prepare the food you have or food you can afford."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me three main things first one is appetite then you cook what your children wants, and then (money) you cook what you can afford, so between the three reasons which one influence most your decision to cook what you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2205340729535947, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Money don’t you think it has contributed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because if you do not have money you will prepare the food you have or food you can afford."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me three main things first one is appetite then you cook what your children wants, and then (money) you cook what you can afford, so between the three reasons which one influence most your decision to cook what you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were young living with your parents did you ever experience food shortage or hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3561489699484386, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because if you do not have money you will prepare the food you have or food you can afford."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You told me three main things first one is appetite then you cook what your children wants, and then (money) you cook what you can afford, so between the three reasons which one influence most your decision to cook what you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were young living with your parents did you ever experience food shortage or hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the cause?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5068321888315983, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were young living with your parents did you ever experience food shortage or hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the cause?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did not have money to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you slept hungry?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6742579875906647, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the cause?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did not have money to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you slept hungry?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did you do to overcome that situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8602866528785162, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did not have money to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you slept hungry?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did you do to overcome that situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It happens even nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a time that you experienced severe hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.066985169865018, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did you do to overcome that situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It happens even nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a time that you experienced severe hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, last year was bad because of severe drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you ever experience severe drought like the one of last year?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.2966501887389086, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It happens even nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a time that you experienced severe hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, last year was bad because of severe drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you ever experience severe drought like the one of last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, sometimes back I do not remember when exactly but it was very dry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was after you got married?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4407224319321204, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, last year was bad because of severe drought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you ever experience severe drought like the one of last year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, sometimes back I do not remember when exactly but it was very dry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was after you got married?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I was breastfeeding my fourth born child."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was long time ago?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6008027021468003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, sometimes back I do not remember when exactly but it was very dry"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was after you got married?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I was breastfeeding my fourth born child."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was long time ago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, even last year was very bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But when I came it was rainy season."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7786696690520003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes I was breastfeeding my fourth born child."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was long time ago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, even last year was very bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But when I came it was rainy season."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes, when you came it was raining."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you overcome the situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9762996322800004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, even last year was very bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But when I came it was rainy season."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes, when you came it was raining."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you overcome the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We lived an easy life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you sell you cows so as to buy food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0847773692000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes, when you came it was raining."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you overcome the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We lived an easy life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you sell you cows so as to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we sold cows: a big cow we sold at Tshs 100,000. It was bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh did you request your neighbour for food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2053081880000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We lived an easy life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you sell you cows so as to buy food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we sold cows: a big cow we sold at Tshs 100,000. It was bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh did you request your neighbour for food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we used to do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And have you heard of someone die of hunger in this village?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3392313200000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes we sold cows: a big cow we sold at Tshs 100,000. It was bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mhhh did you request your neighbour for food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we used to do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And have you heard of someone die of hunger in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. people did not die of hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the other time did people die of hunger?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4880348000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we used to do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And have you heard of someone die of hunger in this village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. people did not die of hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the other time did people die of hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, though it was a severe drought but people and cows did not die."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay Mother, Where do you get information about healthy lifestyle, nutrition and good health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6533720000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. people did not die of hunger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the other time did people die of hunger?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, though it was a severe drought but people and cows did not die."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay Mother, Where do you get information about healthy lifestyle, nutrition and good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was a seminar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did they tell you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8370800000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, though it was a severe drought but people and cows did not die."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay Mother, Where do you get information about healthy lifestyle, nutrition and good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was a seminar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did they tell you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They told us to eat green vegetables, milk, fruits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is what they told you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0412000000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was a seminar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did they tell you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They told us to eat green vegetables, milk, fruits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is what they told you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And after that did you eat what they told you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2680000000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They told us to eat green vegetables, milk, fruits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is what they told you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And after that did you eat what they told you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes but we do not get fruits frequently may be until you go along the road."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean market is along the road?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.52, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And after that did you eat what they told you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes but we do not get fruits frequently may be until you go along the road."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean market is along the road?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh Kololo market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If someone wants to come and teach you about nutrition and healthy lifestyle do you want?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.8, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes but we do not get fruits frequently may be until you go along the road."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean market is along the road?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh Kololo market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If someone wants to come and teach you about nutrition and healthy lifestyle do you want?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how can we reach all of you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeeh Kololo market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If someone wants to come and teach you about nutrition and healthy lifestyle do you want?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how can we reach all of you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through the word of mouth, you tell a friend to tell a friend that on this particular day we will have a seminar on A, B, C."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think churches and schools will spread the information?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how can we reach all of you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through the word of mouth, you tell a friend to tell a friend that on this particular day we will have a seminar on A, B, C."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think churches and schools will spread the information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes Church is a good media of information because people from different location will get information and they will tell their neighbour that on that day we will have a seminar or meeting so information will spread very fast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who do you think deserve to get that knowledge is it the father or mother or children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00032:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through the word of mouth, you tell a friend to tell a friend that on this particular day we will have a seminar on A, B, C."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think churches and schools will spread the information?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes Church is a good media of information because people from different location will get information and they will tell their neighbour that on that day we will have a seminar or meeting so information will spread very fast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who do you think deserve to get that knowledge is it the father or mother or children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be mother and father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you very much Mother we have come to the end of our interview may be if you have question you may ask."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.150653316397603, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are all fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama I would like to know how old you are."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am thirty seven years old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thirty seven?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you can remember the time you were young your parents told you were born during which time of the year or was there any major event which remind them of your birth?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.124263353577288, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you can remember the time you were young your parents told you were born during which time of the year or was there any major event which remind them of your birth?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "None."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "None?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing major happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where were you born and raised?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.582514837308098, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "None."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "None?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing major happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where were you born and raised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born and raised in Makanya."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were born in Makanya?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.9805720414534425, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing major happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where were you born and raised?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born and raised in Makanya."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were born in Makanya?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let us say Same, Makanya."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Same is in which region?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 3.6797185696956074, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let us say Same, Makanya."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Same is in which region?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is in Kilimanjaro region."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Kilimanjaro?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama, Can you remember the family structure by the time you were staying with your parents, how was it? I mean were you living with father, mother and your siblings in the same place or were you living with your father, mother, your siblings and other relatives?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7552428552173418, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is in Kilimanjaro region."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Kilimanjaro?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama, Can you remember the family structure by the time you were staying with your parents, how was it? I mean were you living with father, mother and your siblings in the same place or were you living with your father, mother, your siblings and other relatives?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born and raised in a village called Chankoko, where our grandfather Mzee K used to live so we have been living there as one big family of Mzee Ki together with my father, my father's elder brother, my father's younger brothers and their children, we have stayed as a family and that is how we grew up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aahh...so you were living with your siblings?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8391587280192686, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama, Can you remember the family structure by the time you were staying with your parents, how was it? I mean were you living with father, mother and your siblings in the same place or were you living with your father, mother, your siblings and other relatives?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born and raised in a village called Chankoko, where our grandfather Mzee K used to live so we have been living there as one big family of Mzee Ki together with my father, my father's elder brother, my father's younger brothers and their children, we have stayed as a family and that is how we grew up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aahh...so you were living with your siblings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh... with my other sibling and other relatives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were living in the same homestead?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9323985866880762, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born and raised in a village called Chankoko, where our grandfather Mzee K used to live so we have been living there as one big family of Mzee Ki together with my father, my father's elder brother, my father's younger brothers and their children, we have stayed as a family and that is how we grew up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Aahh...so you were living with your siblings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh... with my other sibling and other relatives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were living in the same homestead?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh....in the same homestead."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama, are you able to tell me other economic activities which were carried out in your family to earn income?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1511093662815755, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh....in the same homestead."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama, are you able to tell me other economic activities which were carried out in your family to earn income?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is agriculture and livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Farming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the major roles and responsibilities of men in your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2790104069795283, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is agriculture and livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Farming?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the major roles and responsibilities of men in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men's responsibilities?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eehh their responsibilities in the family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.421122674421698, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the major roles and responsibilities of men in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men's responsibilities?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eehh their responsibilities in the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their work was to look after the cattle, knowing how the cattle will be taken care off, supervising the farms that is their responsibility, and also providing food for their family that is the men's responsibilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay what about on the women's side, which were their roles and responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5790251938018867, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men's responsibilities?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eehh their responsibilities in the family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their work was to look after the cattle, knowing how the cattle will be taken care off, supervising the farms that is their responsibility, and also providing food for their family that is the men's responsibilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay what about on the women's side, which were their roles and responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The women's responsibilities were like milking the cows, selling the milk and also going to the farm. You go to the farm probably when there is weeding you go to weed if the father says we go to this direction we go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the teenager girls what were their duties? For example you and your sisters when you were young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.754472437557652, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their work was to look after the cattle, knowing how the cattle will be taken care off, supervising the farms that is their responsibility, and also providing food for their family that is the men's responsibilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay what about on the women's side, which were their roles and responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The women's responsibilities were like milking the cows, selling the milk and also going to the farm. You go to the farm probably when there is weeding you go to weed if the father says we go to this direction we go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the teenager girls what were their duties? For example you and your sisters when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were milking cows and also going to the farm to weed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about sweeping the ground and cleaning the house?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.949413819508502, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The women's responsibilities were like milking the cows, selling the milk and also going to the farm. You go to the farm probably when there is weeding you go to weed if the father says we go to this direction we go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the teenager girls what were their duties? For example you and your sisters when you were young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were milking cows and also going to the farm to weed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about sweeping the ground and cleaning the house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sweeping, fetching water, cooking that was the girls' responsibilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And on the side of the boy child, which were the boy child's responsibilities?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.1660153550094465, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were milking cows and also going to the farm to weed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about sweeping the ground and cleaning the house?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sweeping, fetching water, cooking that was the girls' responsibilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And on the side of the boy child, which were the boy child's responsibilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The boy child's responsibilities is looking after the cows, goats and sheep in case there those which have given birth, probably a goats have given birth or a sheep have given birth...then their duties is take the young ones and help them feed or take them to their mothers to breastfeed until the time to go to the pastures."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your family how many of you were educated and at what level?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4395251296412916, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The boy child's responsibilities is looking after the cows, goats and sheep in case there those which have given birth, probably a goats have given birth or a sheep have given birth...then their duties is take the young ones and help them feed or take them to their mothers to breastfeed until the time to go to the pastures."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your family how many of you were educated and at what level?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a family of Mzee K. only two children went up to high school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which level?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One in form four and another one form five."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your family only two of them reached form four?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5994723662681019, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In a family of Mzee K. only two children went up to high school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which level?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One in form four and another one form five."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your family only two of them reached form four?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the rest of us went up to class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7771915180756688, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One in form four and another one form five."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your family only two of them reached form four?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the rest of us went up to class seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh, our family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many were you in your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.194063602562554, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh, our family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many were you in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eight children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eight children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have told me one reached form four and the other one form five."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4378484472917266, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were eight children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Eight children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have told me one reached form four and the other one form five."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the remaining six?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.708720496990807, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have told me one reached form four and the other one form five."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the remaining six?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The remaining six how far did they reach?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.009689441100897, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the remaining six?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The remaining six how far did they reach?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those six, some married like myself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean their education?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:59", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.715665976667774, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those six, some married like myself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean their education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is up to standard seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Standard seven?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the rest of us went up to class seven, except one who reached form two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama, I would like to know you are eating system in your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.1285177518530825, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is up to standard seven."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Standard seven?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the rest of us went up to class seven, except one who reached form two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama, I would like to know you are eating system in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean how we eat now in my family or how we used to eat when I was in my father’s house?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean how you were eating in the past when you were living with your parents?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:63", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.476130835392314, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the rest of us went up to class seven, except one who reached form two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mama, I would like to know you are eating system in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean how we eat now in my family or how we used to eat when I was in my father’s house?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean how you were eating in the past when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we wake up in the morning we clean the house and then we fetch water then after that we cook let say 2 to 3 kilograms of rice and have them with tea or we cook porridge for the entire family, this was because we were brought up in a family whereby if you cook food for example in that house and this one you cook and after cooking you all come up together and eat as one family of Mzee K. we used to eat together that is how I was raised."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how many families were there?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.862367594880349, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean how we eat now in my family or how we used to eat when I was in my father’s house?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean how you were eating in the past when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we wake up in the morning we clean the house and then we fetch water then after that we cook let say 2 to 3 kilograms of rice and have them with tea or we cook porridge for the entire family, this was because we were brought up in a family whereby if you cook food for example in that house and this one you cook and after cooking you all come up together and eat as one family of Mzee K. we used to eat together that is how I was raised."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how many families were there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were five families, my father and four uncles."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food did you mostly eat meaning you used to eat on daily basis?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.291519549867054, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we wake up in the morning we clean the house and then we fetch water then after that we cook let say 2 to 3 kilograms of rice and have them with tea or we cook porridge for the entire family, this was because we were brought up in a family whereby if you cook food for example in that house and this one you cook and after cooking you all come up together and eat as one family of Mzee K. we used to eat together that is how I was raised."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how many families were there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were five families, my father and four uncles."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food did you mostly eat meaning you used to eat on daily basis?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we used to eat plantains, we used to eat ugali, and we used to take porridge and also sweet potatoes because we were growing them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food did you least eaten?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.657243944296727, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were five families, my father and four uncles."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food did you mostly eat meaning you used to eat on daily basis?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we used to eat plantains, we used to eat ugali, and we used to take porridge and also sweet potatoes because we were growing them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food did you least eaten?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is like rice, we used to eat rice once in a while because in Same we do not grow rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Like how many times?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.063604382551919, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we used to eat plantains, we used to eat ugali, and we used to take porridge and also sweet potatoes because we were growing them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food did you least eaten?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is like rice, we used to eat rice once in a while because in Same we do not grow rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Like how many times?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Once in a month because we used to buy them we never grow rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay...which type of food was eaten by different people in your house meaning it was eaten by the mothers or children and if it is cooked it is only those people who eat it the other people are not allowed to eat it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.515115980613243, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is like rice, we used to eat rice once in a while because in Same we do not grow rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Like how many times?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Once in a month because we used to buy them we never grow rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay...which type of food was eaten by different people in your house meaning it was eaten by the mothers or children and if it is cooked it is only those people who eat it the other people are not allowed to eat it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at all. Our children would eat what we have cooked."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the young children eat the same food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.016795534014714, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Once in a month because we used to buy them we never grow rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay...which type of food was eaten by different people in your house meaning it was eaten by the mothers or children and if it is cooked it is only those people who eat it the other people are not allowed to eat it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at all. Our children would eat what we have cooked."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the young children eat the same food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will eat and take porridge, we cook for them broken rice and they have their own special porridge which is nutritious."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is mixed up in their food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.574217260016349, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at all. Our children would eat what we have cooked."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the young children eat the same food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will eat and take porridge, we cook for them broken rice and they have their own special porridge which is nutritious."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is mixed up in their food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their porridge consists of finger millet, groundnuts, rice, sardines, and maize we mix in the same place then it is grinded to make flour, you cook that porridge and when its ready you mix it with milk then let it boil properly then serve, that was the child's porridge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the quantity you prepare and for how long the child will take it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.5484163703905542, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Their porridge consists of finger millet, groundnuts, rice, sardines, and maize we mix in the same place then it is grinded to make flour, you cook that porridge and when its ready you mix it with milk then let it boil properly then serve, that was the child's porridge."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what is the quantity you prepare and for how long the child will take it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That child."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmhh..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It could be taken for three times a day, it is three times because he would eat, take porridge and also take milk. You cook the porridge and put it in a flask and you give the child in the morning, during the day and in the evening. In the other hours, you give the child milk and breastfeed him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you prepare the flour, for how many weeks do you use it before its complete?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.8315737448783938, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That child."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmhh..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It could be taken for three times a day, it is three times because he would eat, take porridge and also take milk. You cook the porridge and put it in a flask and you give the child in the morning, during the day and in the evening. In the other hours, you give the child milk and breastfeed him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you prepare the flour, for how many weeks do you use it before its complete?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is like only one week because we were staying far from the milling machine so we could grind flour for only one week and not less than that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you using fresh milk or which one did you use to prepare porridge?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.146193049864882, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It could be taken for three times a day, it is three times because he would eat, take porridge and also take milk. You cook the porridge and put it in a flask and you give the child in the morning, during the day and in the evening. In the other hours, you give the child milk and breastfeed him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you prepare the flour, for how many weeks do you use it before its complete?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is like only one week because we were staying far from the milling machine so we could grind flour for only one week and not less than that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you using fresh milk or which one did you use to prepare porridge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used fresh milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have told me that when you were growing there are other foods you were buying?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.495770055405424, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is like only one week because we were staying far from the milling machine so we could grind flour for only one week and not less than that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you using fresh milk or which one did you use to prepare porridge?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used fresh milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have told me that when you were growing there are other foods you were buying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know types of food you used to grow?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.884188950450471, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used fresh milk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have told me that when you were growing there are other foods you were buying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know types of food you used to grow?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were growing groundnuts, maize, beans, cowpeas sorghum and also wheat we were consuming what we were growing ourselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food did you buy in the market for consumption in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.3157655005005235, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know types of food you used to grow?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were growing groundnuts, maize, beans, cowpeas sorghum and also wheat we were consuming what we were growing ourselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food did you buy in the market for consumption in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Banana, rice and spices .We were buying those ones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean when you say spices?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.795295000556137, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were growing groundnuts, maize, beans, cowpeas sorghum and also wheat we were consuming what we were growing ourselves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which types of food did you buy in the market for consumption in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Banana, rice and spices .We were buying those ones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean when you say spices?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These are things like onions, garlic ginger and spices for use in the preparation of tea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are these spices?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.328105556173485, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Banana, rice and spices .We were buying those ones."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean when you say spices?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These are things like onions, garlic ginger and spices for use in the preparation of tea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are these spices?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cinnamon, ginger and other spices i have forgotten the name but we were buying them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mum, and which types of foods were you gathering from the forest for consumption at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.920117284637206, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "These are things like onions, garlic ginger and spices for use in the preparation of tea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are these spices?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cinnamon, ginger and other spices i have forgotten the name but we were buying them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mum, and which types of foods were you gathering from the forest for consumption at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were wild fruits in the forest we used to harvest them and bring them home and eat, they were very sweet fruits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is their name?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.57790809404134, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cinnamon, ginger and other spices i have forgotten the name but we were buying them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mum, and which types of foods were you gathering from the forest for consumption at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were wild fruits in the forest we used to harvest them and bring them home and eat, they were very sweet fruits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is their name?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know if you will understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just tell me in any language."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.3087867711570444, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were wild fruits in the forest we used to harvest them and bring them home and eat, they were very sweet fruits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is their name?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know if you will understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just tell me in any language."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, These are fruits we get from the trees we use to brush teeth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmhh...how are they called?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 7.009763079063383, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know if you will understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just tell me in any language."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, These are fruits we get from the trees we use to brush teeth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmhh...how are they called?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are called Mkayo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mkayo and what else?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.133459958944342, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Makwanju (tamarind) and also Ngarito."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ngarito?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmm...we were harvesting them and eating them at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmhh..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even if we did not have food after eating those fruits we were satisfied."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean ngarito."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.370511065493713, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmm...we were harvesting them and eating them at home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmhh..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even if we did not have food after eating those fruits we were satisfied."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean ngarito."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they were very nice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay...when you were young I would like to know what you engaged yourself in, who used to make decision after cultivating, may be who would say you sell this food, keep it for our consumption at home or we use it for barter trade with other food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9265568709798924, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they were very nice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay...when you were young I would like to know what you engaged yourself in, who used to make decision after cultivating, may be who would say you sell this food, keep it for our consumption at home or we use it for barter trade with other food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The father?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh...The father will take the initiative together with the mother because the father would say we keep the food in this way if it is selling we sell it to construct a house or we buy a goat, father and mother will agree together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and who was making the final decision?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.251729856644325, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The father?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh...The father will take the initiative together with the mother because the father would say we keep the food in this way if it is selling we sell it to construct a house or we buy a goat, father and mother will agree together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and who was making the final decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The father is the one who made the final decisions; our mother was mostly concerned with activities in the kitchen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who had the duty and responsibility of buying food in the market in your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.61303317404925, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh...The father will take the initiative together with the mother because the father would say we keep the food in this way if it is selling we sell it to construct a house or we buy a goat, father and mother will agree together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and who was making the final decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The father is the one who made the final decisions; our mother was mostly concerned with activities in the kitchen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who had the duty and responsibility of buying food in the market in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is also the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Buying food from the market?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.014481304499166, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The father is the one who made the final decisions; our mother was mostly concerned with activities in the kitchen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who had the duty and responsibility of buying food in the market in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is also the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Buying food from the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehhh...it is the father. He had the responsibilities of buying food from the market bringing home, our mother was alerting when there is no food the father's duty was to go and buy in the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, in your community if a girl reaches the maturity age what were some of the things which were taking place or what was showing that this is a mature girl?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.460534782776851, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is also the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Buying food from the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehhh...it is the father. He had the responsibilities of buying food from the market bringing home, our mother was alerting when there is no food the father's duty was to go and buy in the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, in your community if a girl reaches the maturity age what were some of the things which were taking place or what was showing that this is a mature girl?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If she reaches that age she will be known because, like me at that age what made me know that I am a big person I saw something which was strange and I had not seen before then I asked my mother what is this and why is it that I am menstruating? Then she told me that is the maturity you are now a lady. Therefore at that time I knew what is maturity and I continued that way until I got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On the side of men, what would enable you know that this is a big child. The community would say for sure the child of a certain man is fully grown, what is it that they will see?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.9561497586409455, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehhh...it is the father. He had the responsibilities of buying food from the market bringing home, our mother was alerting when there is no food the father's duty was to go and buy in the market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, in your community if a girl reaches the maturity age what were some of the things which were taking place or what was showing that this is a mature girl?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If she reaches that age she will be known because, like me at that age what made me know that I am a big person I saw something which was strange and I had not seen before then I asked my mother what is this and why is it that I am menstruating? Then she told me that is the maturity you are now a lady. Therefore at that time I knew what is maturity and I continued that way until I got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On the side of men, what would enable you know that this is a big child. The community would say for sure the child of a certain man is fully grown, what is it that they will see?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "His voice would indicate that he now a fully grown man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would also like to know about the ceremonies like dances?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.506833065156606, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If she reaches that age she will be known because, like me at that age what made me know that I am a big person I saw something which was strange and I had not seen before then I asked my mother what is this and why is it that I am menstruating? Then she told me that is the maturity you are now a lady. Therefore at that time I knew what is maturity and I continued that way until I got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On the side of men, what would enable you know that this is a big child. The community would say for sure the child of a certain man is fully grown, what is it that they will see?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "His voice would indicate that he now a fully grown man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would also like to know about the ceremonies like dances?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is fully indicating the signs but in our community like the boys they are danced for until they are fully grown up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old is he likely to be?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.89648118350734, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "His voice would indicate that he now a fully grown man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would also like to know about the ceremonies like dances?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is fully indicating the signs but in our community like the boys they are danced for until they are fully grown up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old is he likely to be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like eighteen years old or twenty a dance is performed but for girls them they are danced when they a bit younger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it that the dance is performed when they are still young?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.329423537230378, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He is fully indicating the signs but in our community like the boys they are danced for until they are fully grown up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old is he likely to be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like eighteen years old or twenty a dance is performed but for girls them they are danced when they a bit younger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it that the dance is performed when they are still young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is performed when they are a bit younger because there are some circumstances which make people to be danced when young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which circumstances is that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.810470596922642, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "like eighteen years old or twenty a dance is performed but for girls them they are danced when they a bit younger."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it that the dance is performed when they are still young?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is performed when they are a bit younger because there are some circumstances which make people to be danced when young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which circumstances is that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is like when you leave a child to be mature... it is not good in our community to leave a child to be big without being danced for. It is bad because she cannot be expectant before she the dance is performed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mmh...so when you are pregnant and it is showing is it an indication that you are mature or when you are\texpectant you do not indicate that you are an adult?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.344967329914046, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is performed when they are a bit younger because there are some circumstances which make people to be danced when young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which circumstances is that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is like when you leave a child to be mature... it is not good in our community to leave a child to be big without being danced for. It is bad because she cannot be expectant before she the dance is performed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mmh...so when you are pregnant and it is showing is it an indication that you are mature or when you are\texpectant you do not indicate that you are an adult?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you get pregnant it shows you are an adult and that dance is not performed to a person who is pregnant that is why it is performed when the girls are young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let us come back to your side. You have told me when you started your periods it is when you knew you a mature person?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 5.9388525887933845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is like when you leave a child to be mature... it is not good in our community to leave a child to be big without being danced for. It is bad because she cannot be expectant before she the dance is performed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mmh...so when you are pregnant and it is showing is it an indication that you are mature or when you are\texpectant you do not indicate that you are an adult?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you get pregnant it shows you are an adult and that dance is not performed to a person who is pregnant that is why it is performed when the girls are young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let us come back to your side. You have told me when you started your periods it is when you knew you a mature person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now what made you know that you are mature or what happened to you which gave you a clear indication that you are a mature person?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2653917653259823, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you get pregnant it shows you are an adult and that dance is not performed to a person who is pregnant that is why it is performed when the girls are young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let us come back to your side. You have told me when you started your periods it is when you knew you a mature person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now what made you know that you are mature or what happened to you which gave you a clear indication that you are a mature person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First, it is enlargement of breasts, this is an indication that you have matured .You see the breasts enlarging. Second are the monthly periods then you will see men engaging you then you will know that you have matured. Until men have fallen in love with me then and there I knew I have matured."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay mum...we have completed one part. Let us now talk about another part whereby you are now a mature person and you have your own family"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.628213072584425, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now what made you know that you are mature or what happened to you which gave you a clear indication that you are a mature person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First, it is enlargement of breasts, this is an indication that you have matured .You see the breasts enlarging. Second are the monthly periods then you will see men engaging you then you will know that you have matured. Until men have fallen in love with me then and there I knew I have matured."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay mum...we have completed one part. Let us now talk about another part whereby you are now a mature person and you have your own family"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know at what time or season or in which year you came to live in Kambala?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9202367473160273, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First, it is enlargement of breasts, this is an indication that you have matured .You see the breasts enlarging. Second are the monthly periods then you will see men engaging you then you will know that you have matured. Until men have fallen in love with me then and there I knew I have matured."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay mum...we have completed one part. Let us now talk about another part whereby you are now a mature person and you have your own family"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know at what time or season or in which year you came to live in Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I came when I was still a girl in 1982, I lived here with my family members until I was engaged and later got married to my husband. I now live here with my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the main reason of coming to Kambala?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.2447074970178083, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know at what time or season or in which year you came to live in Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I came when I was still a girl in 1982, I lived here with my family members until I was engaged and later got married to my husband. I now live here with my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the main reason of coming to Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reason of coming to Kambala is we had stayed in Kilimanjaro region a place called Makanya it was dry so there were no pastures for the cattle and it was not raining so my father decided we migrate to Kambala where it was raining and there was a lot of pastures for our livestock to feed on, Kambala was a nice place for farming and also livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else do you stay with?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.494119441130898, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I came when I was still a girl in 1982, I lived here with my family members until I was engaged and later got married to my husband. I now live here with my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the main reason of coming to Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reason of coming to Kambala is we had stayed in Kilimanjaro region a place called Makanya it was dry so there were no pastures for the cattle and it was not raining so my father decided we migrate to Kambala where it was raining and there was a lot of pastures for our livestock to feed on, Kambala was a nice place for farming and also livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else do you stay with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our village of Kambala we live with the Maasai."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Together with your family here, who else lives with you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7712438234787755, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reason of coming to Kambala is we had stayed in Kilimanjaro region a place called Makanya it was dry so there were no pastures for the cattle and it was not raining so my father decided we migrate to Kambala where it was raining and there was a lot of pastures for our livestock to feed on, Kambala was a nice place for farming and also livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else do you stay with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our village of Kambala we live with the Maasai."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Together with your family here, who else lives with you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aahah I live with my brother in law, father in law we are all staying here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 3.079159803865306, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our village of Kambala we live with the Maasai."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Together with your family here, who else lives with you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aahah I live with my brother in law, father in law we are all staying here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oohh yes we all live here as one family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old is your father in law?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.455752844278155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oohh yes we all live here as one family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old is your father in law?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father in law."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmhh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be he was born in the 1950’s ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old are your brother in law?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6175031603090613, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My father in law."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmhh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be he was born in the 1950’s ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old are your brother in law?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know how old they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you cook food...did you eat as in the early ages where by you were living with your parents, do you eat in the same house or nowadays everyone cooks his own food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7972257336767348, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "May be he was born in the 1950’s ."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old are your brother in law?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know how old they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you cook food...did you eat as in the early ages where by you were living with your parents, do you eat in the same house or nowadays everyone cooks his own food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, everyone cooks and eats from his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay...mother I would also like us to talk about your family activities now. Which activities"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9969174818630386, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know how old they are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And if you cook food...did you eat as in the early ages where by you were living with your parents, do you eat in the same house or nowadays everyone cooks his own food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, everyone cooks and eats from his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay...mother I would also like us to talk about your family activities now. Which activities"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which activities do you mostly depend on so that you can earn a living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.218797202070043, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, everyone cooks and eats from his family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay...mother I would also like us to talk about your family activities now. Which activities"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which activities do you mostly depend on so that you can earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is livestock rearing and farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which one is more important? Is it growing crops or keeping the animals which one do you mostly depend on?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.46533022452227, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which activities do you mostly depend on so that you can earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is livestock rearing and farming."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which one is more important? Is it growing crops or keeping the animals which one do you mostly depend on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What we mostly depend on is livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the activities which were carried out so that you can earn a living now and when you were living with your parents?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0436175611386047, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What we mostly depend on is livestock rearing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the activities which were carried out so that you can earn a living now and when you were living with your parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a small difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmhhh....how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For example I am educated unlike my parents were not educated. So there is something which my parents did which I cannot do because I am enlightened for example all my children are educated none of them who are not educated. Some are in form four and others are in the university and others are still at home after completing form four, I am still looking for a place for them to go so that they can be educated, that is what differentiates me from my parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the economic activities which make you earn a living is there any difference in what the parents were involved in to earn a living and what you are doing to earn a living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.381797290154005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a small difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmhhh....how?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For example I am educated unlike my parents were not educated. So there is something which my parents did which I cannot do because I am enlightened for example all my children are educated none of them who are not educated. Some are in form four and others are in the university and others are still at home after completing form four, I am still looking for a place for them to go so that they can be educated, that is what differentiates me from my parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the economic activities which make you earn a living is there any difference in what the parents were involved in to earn a living and what you are doing to earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course there is a difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmhh tell me."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.757552544615561, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For example I am educated unlike my parents were not educated. So there is something which my parents did which I cannot do because I am enlightened for example all my children are educated none of them who are not educated. Some are in form four and others are in the university and others are still at home after completing form four, I am still looking for a place for them to go so that they can be educated, that is what differentiates me from my parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the economic activities which make you earn a living is there any difference in what the parents were involved in to earn a living and what you are doing to earn a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course there is a difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmhh tell me."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because you know that there is a difference between the educated and illiterate even in performing some activities there will be a difference even if it is in growing crops you educated person will grow crops differently from a person who is illiterate so there is a big difference although the activities are the same as the ones which were carried out where I was living because people plant crops and keep animals as we do now but the only difference is that I am educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you have told me that there is a difference in the way of farming, just tell me how the illiterate carried out their farming and how the educated farm?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.175058382906179, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course there is a difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmhh tell me."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because you know that there is a difference between the educated and illiterate even in performing some activities there will be a difference even if it is in growing crops you educated person will grow crops differently from a person who is illiterate so there is a big difference although the activities are the same as the ones which were carried out where I was living because people plant crops and keep animals as we do now but the only difference is that I am educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you have told me that there is a difference in the way of farming, just tell me how the illiterate carried out their farming and how the educated farm?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Growing of crops for a person who is educated, First he prepares the farm if its rice he grows then he plants maize using a rope to make clear lines. He also knows that there some pesticides for spraying on the leaves so that the crops cannot be destroyed. That's how educated people grow their crops. The one who is not educated prepares his farm grows maize and only knows growing crops, some of us who are educated can teach our parents that there is pesticides and some activities which are done on the big farm and find out that you are harvesting a better yield because you have taken care of let us say its maize you take care of it if it’s rice you take care of it you put manure and spray it but in the past our parents did not know this because they were not educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay...how have you been negatively and positively affected by the reforms which you have told me?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.638953758784643, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because you know that there is a difference between the educated and illiterate even in performing some activities there will be a difference even if it is in growing crops you educated person will grow crops differently from a person who is illiterate so there is a big difference although the activities are the same as the ones which were carried out where I was living because people plant crops and keep animals as we do now but the only difference is that I am educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you have told me that there is a difference in the way of farming, just tell me how the illiterate carried out their farming and how the educated farm?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Growing of crops for a person who is educated, First he prepares the farm if its rice he grows then he plants maize using a rope to make clear lines. He also knows that there some pesticides for spraying on the leaves so that the crops cannot be destroyed. That's how educated people grow their crops. The one who is not educated prepares his farm grows maize and only knows growing crops, some of us who are educated can teach our parents that there is pesticides and some activities which are done on the big farm and find out that you are harvesting a better yield because you have taken care of let us say its maize you take care of it if it’s rice you take care of it you put manure and spray it but in the past our parents did not know this because they were not educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay...how have you been negatively and positively affected by the reforms which you have told me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any affects in the reforms that you told me?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.932170843094047, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Growing of crops for a person who is educated, First he prepares the farm if its rice he grows then he plants maize using a rope to make clear lines. He also knows that there some pesticides for spraying on the leaves so that the crops cannot be destroyed. That's how educated people grow their crops. The one who is not educated prepares his farm grows maize and only knows growing crops, some of us who are educated can teach our parents that there is pesticides and some activities which are done on the big farm and find out that you are harvesting a better yield because you have taken care of let us say its maize you take care of it if it’s rice you take care of it you put manure and spray it but in the past our parents did not know this because they were not educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay...how have you been negatively and positively affected by the reforms which you have told me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any affects in the reforms that you told me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are positive effects for example profit if you have taken good care of your crops you must harvest a good yield and the loss because you have not taken care of the maize in the farm you have not weeded properly so your friend has only cultivated one acre and you have cultivated ten acres you get the same amount of harvest. That is the loss and the profit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have compared who and who?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.25796760343783, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any affects in the reforms that you told me?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are positive effects for example profit if you have taken good care of your crops you must harvest a good yield and the loss because you have not taken care of the maize in the farm you have not weeded properly so your friend has only cultivated one acre and you have cultivated ten acres you get the same amount of harvest. That is the loss and the profit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have compared who and who?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A person who is educated and the one who is not educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ma’am. I am grateful for your good response, we are progressing on, and I would like to know duties and responsibilities of men and women in your household? Let us start with the men's responsibilities."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.397741781597589, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are positive effects for example profit if you have taken good care of your crops you must harvest a good yield and the loss because you have not taken care of the maize in the farm you have not weeded properly so your friend has only cultivated one acre and you have cultivated ten acres you get the same amount of harvest. That is the loss and the profit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have compared who and who?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A person who is educated and the one who is not educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ma’am. I am grateful for your good response, we are progressing on, and I would like to know duties and responsibilities of men and women in your household? Let us start with the men's responsibilities."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men's responsibilities, for example now is a dry season cows and goats have to be taken to where the pasture are and those are men's responsibilities they go to Ronjo (place where cattle are taken temporarily for grazing when there is shortage of pasture) and stay they stay in Ronjo they look after the animals and they are also the provider of their homes so they must know if there is enough food for the family those are men's responsibilities. Women's responsibilities are to check what is there like if is animals you check whether they are all there, if is the food, it is their duty to check and alert the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have talked about the dry season."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.553046423997321, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A person who is educated and the one who is not educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ma’am. I am grateful for your good response, we are progressing on, and I would like to know duties and responsibilities of men and women in your household? Let us start with the men's responsibilities."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men's responsibilities, for example now is a dry season cows and goats have to be taken to where the pasture are and those are men's responsibilities they go to Ronjo (place where cattle are taken temporarily for grazing when there is shortage of pasture) and stay they stay in Ronjo they look after the animals and they are also the provider of their homes so they must know if there is enough food for the family those are men's responsibilities. Women's responsibilities are to check what is there like if is animals you check whether they are all there, if is the food, it is their duty to check and alert the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have talked about the dry season."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in the rainy season?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6144960266636901, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men's responsibilities, for example now is a dry season cows and goats have to be taken to where the pasture are and those are men's responsibilities they go to Ronjo (place where cattle are taken temporarily for grazing when there is shortage of pasture) and stay they stay in Ronjo they look after the animals and they are also the provider of their homes so they must know if there is enough food for the family those are men's responsibilities. Women's responsibilities are to check what is there like if is animals you check whether they are all there, if is the food, it is their duty to check and alert the father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have talked about the dry season."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in the rainy season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the rainy season the men responsibilities is also checking on how the cows will be taken care of, checking the unhealthy cows so that they can look for medication also spraying the crops if there is a need, he has to know where he should get manure or fertilizer for the crops. Women responsibilities is to inform and also to give feedback to the father of what is going on in the farm for example when plant, weed, supervising the workers and other important issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the difference in the duties and responsibilities of men and women nowadays and in the time you were living with your parents. Is there any difference in sharing of duties?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7586370699551729, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the rainy season the men responsibilities is also checking on how the cows will be taken care of, checking the unhealthy cows so that they can look for medication also spraying the crops if there is a need, he has to know where he should get manure or fertilizer for the crops. Women responsibilities is to inform and also to give feedback to the father of what is going on in the farm for example when plant, weed, supervising the workers and other important issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the difference in the duties and responsibilities of men and women nowadays and in the time you were living with your parents. Is there any difference in sharing of duties?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ohh yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any difference the only that they were not educated so the way they are doing their work is different compared to nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the responsibilities the for boys and girls in your community."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8429300777279699, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ohh yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no any difference the only that they were not educated so the way they are doing their work is different compared to nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know the responsibilities the for boys and girls in your community."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Responsibilities of young girls and boys?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "eehhh...in your household now what are the responsibilities of the boys"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.040654416948111, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Responsibilities of young girls and boys?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "eehhh...in your household now what are the responsibilities of the boys"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The look after cows and goats taking the cows and goats to the field to feed and also to drink water and if the animal is unwell they treat it those are the responsibilities of men and also going to the farm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the girls, it is like sweeping the field, cleaning the house, fetching water, cooking and serving the men. Those are their responsibilities if there are some activities in the farm they also go there and work together with the boys, but those are their responsibilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any difference of the children duties in the past and nowadays in your community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.156282685497901, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The look after cows and goats taking the cows and goats to the field to feed and also to drink water and if the animal is unwell they treat it those are the responsibilities of men and also going to the farm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the girls, it is like sweeping the field, cleaning the house, fetching water, cooking and serving the men. Those are their responsibilities if there are some activities in the farm they also go there and work together with the boys, but those are their responsibilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any difference of the children duties in the past and nowadays in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do they perform the same duties?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2847585394421122, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For the girls, it is like sweeping the field, cleaning the house, fetching water, cooking and serving the men. Those are their responsibilities if there are some activities in the farm they also go there and work together with the boys, but those are their responsibilities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any difference of the children duties in the past and nowadays in your community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do they perform the same duties?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay mother, we have completed that part, lets discuss another part about the feeding habits."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4275094882690136, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do they perform the same duties?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay mother, we have completed that part, lets discuss another part about the feeding habits."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By the time we came here we heard that the people of Kambala saying that the types of food has changed like the pastoralists community especially the Maasai who were not eating fish they are now eating fish, meat, eggs, chicken and also “chips mayai” chips with eggs."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5861216536322373, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is okay mother, we have completed that part, lets discuss another part about the feeding habits."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By the time we came here we heard that the people of Kambala saying that the types of food has changed like the pastoralists community especially the Maasai who were not eating fish they are now eating fish, meat, eggs, chicken and also “chips mayai” chips with eggs."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But the way of preparing the food has changed, these days’ people do not boil food like in the past, nowadays they fry so I would like to know in the years you have been living here in Kambala are there any changes in the way food is prepared in the past as compared to nowadays and is there any food which was not eaten before but is eaten now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.651246281813597, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "By the time we came here we heard that the people of Kambala saying that the types of food has changed like the pastoralists community especially the Maasai who were not eating fish they are now eating fish, meat, eggs, chicken and also “chips mayai” chips with eggs."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But the way of preparing the food has changed, these days’ people do not boil food like in the past, nowadays they fry so I would like to know in the years you have been living here in Kambala are there any changes in the way food is prepared in the past as compared to nowadays and is there any food which was not eaten before but is eaten now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For example the types of food which are eaten now is different to the past, let us talk about my home so that I cannot talk of other people's homes, as for the first thing in the morning is tea and probably with mandazi or chapati or bananas. I go to the market and buy bananas and cook. That is how it has changed because we buy different things but in the past we used to take porridge, ugali and rice because we used to grow them so those were the food available unlike now we have variety of foods which you can buy. But when I got married in my own home there are changes I can prepare tea with maandazi today or chapatti or bananas or rice so there are some changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any changes in men’s food,"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7236069797928856, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But the way of preparing the food has changed, these days’ people do not boil food like in the past, nowadays they fry so I would like to know in the years you have been living here in Kambala are there any changes in the way food is prepared in the past as compared to nowadays and is there any food which was not eaten before but is eaten now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For example the types of food which are eaten now is different to the past, let us talk about my home so that I cannot talk of other people's homes, as for the first thing in the morning is tea and probably with mandazi or chapati or bananas. I go to the market and buy bananas and cook. That is how it has changed because we buy different things but in the past we used to take porridge, ugali and rice because we used to grow them so those were the food available unlike now we have variety of foods which you can buy. But when I got married in my own home there are changes I can prepare tea with maandazi today or chapatti or bananas or rice so there are some changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any changes in men’s food,"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, there are no changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about women's food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8040077553254283, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For example the types of food which are eaten now is different to the past, let us talk about my home so that I cannot talk of other people's homes, as for the first thing in the morning is tea and probably with mandazi or chapati or bananas. I go to the market and buy bananas and cook. That is how it has changed because we buy different things but in the past we used to take porridge, ugali and rice because we used to grow them so those were the food available unlike now we have variety of foods which you can buy. But when I got married in my own home there are changes I can prepare tea with maandazi today or chapatti or bananas or rice so there are some changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any changes in men’s food,"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, there are no changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about women's food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are all the same, but there are some foods which men here do not eat like okra and also sweet potato leaves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Men here do not eat okra and sweet potato leaves?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.893341950361587, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, there are no changes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about women's food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are all the same, but there are some foods which men here do not eat like okra and also sweet potato leaves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Men here do not eat okra and sweet potato leaves?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the reasons that make the men not to eat okra and sweet potato leaves?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9926021670684301, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are all the same, but there are some foods which men here do not eat like okra and also sweet potato leaves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Men here do not eat okra and sweet potato leaves?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the reasons that make the men not to eat okra and sweet potato leaves?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is us we do not want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it that they have stomach problems when they eat it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2254347741585556, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is us we do not want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it that they have stomach problems when they eat it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do not have stomach problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmhh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do not want it. The community does not want it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They do not want it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3615941935095062, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do not have stomach problems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmhh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do not want it. The community does not want it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They do not want it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it traditions or why don't they like it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5128824372327847, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They do not want it. The community does not want it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They do not want it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it traditions or why don't they like it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not traditions they are just used that men do not take okra."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are just used?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6809804858142052, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it traditions or why don't they like it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not traditions they are just used that men do not take okra."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are just used?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeehh, they are used."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did they get the behaviour of not taking Okra from?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:229", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8677560953491168, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is not traditions they are just used that men do not take okra."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They are just used?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeehh, they are used."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did they get the behaviour of not taking Okra from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know, probably they got it from their grandparents because we do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where have you said they got this behaviour of not taking okra’s from?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0752845503879076, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeehh, they are used."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did they get the behaviour of not taking Okra from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know, probably they got it from their grandparents because we do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where have you said they got this behaviour of not taking okra’s from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know probably from their grandparents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which communities’ men do not take okra and sweet potato leaves?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3058717226532304, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know, probably they got it from their grandparents because we do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where have you said they got this behaviour of not taking okra’s from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know probably from their grandparents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which communities’ men do not take okra and sweet potato leaves?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even from where I come from they do not take it even here they do not take it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are many tribes here there are the Maasai, there are Pare there are Gogo."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.5620796918369226, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know probably from their grandparents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which communities’ men do not take okra and sweet potato leaves?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even from where I come from they do not take it even here they do not take it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are many tribes here there are the Maasai, there are Pare there are Gogo."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are Pare"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean Pare are the one who do not take okra?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:237", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.7356441020410251, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Even from where I come from they do not take it even here they do not take it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are many tribes here there are the Maasai, there are Pare there are Gogo."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are Pare"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean Pare are the one who do not take okra?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they do not eat Okra’s but there are some of them who eat but they are very few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, may I know the reasons of not taking tea with maandazi, in the past but nowadays people take them what caused all these changes in life?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8173823356011392, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are Pare"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mean Pare are the one who do not take okra?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they do not eat Okra’s but there are some of them who eat but they are very few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, may I know the reasons of not taking tea with maandazi, in the past but nowadays people take them what caused all these changes in life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Technology, these days technology has greatly influenced this and has been different from the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by the term technology?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:241", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9082025951123768, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes they do not eat Okra’s but there are some of them who eat but they are very few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, may I know the reasons of not taking tea with maandazi, in the past but nowadays people take them what caused all these changes in life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Technology, these days technology has greatly influenced this and has been different from the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by the term technology?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There Is a difference in the way people used to live in the past and nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this technology influenced your way of feeding? What has happened that you change the type of food you used to cook in the past to other types of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0091139945693075, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Technology, these days technology has greatly influenced this and has been different from the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by the term technology?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There Is a difference in the way people used to live in the past and nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this technology influenced your way of feeding? What has happened that you change the type of food you used to cook in the past to other types of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like I said before some people in the past were not educated and some when to school but dropped in class four but nowadays most of them are educated, so they know what to cook for their children. Nowadays people save the little they get so that they can educate their children, they can do any work even burning charcoal or any other casual job so that you can educate your children unlike before where education was not a priority to many, even in the way people struggle so that they can provide good food for their family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If we leave behind technology what else has caused the change in the way people of Kambala eats?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.010126660632563914, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There Is a difference in the way people used to live in the past and nowadays."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has this technology influenced your way of feeding? What has happened that you change the type of food you used to cook in the past to other types of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "like I said before some people in the past were not educated and some when to school but dropped in class four but nowadays most of them are educated, so they know what to cook for their children. Nowadays people save the little they get so that they can educate their children, they can do any work even burning charcoal or any other casual job so that you can educate your children unlike before where education was not a priority to many, even in the way people struggle so that they can provide good food for their family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If we leave behind technology what else has caused the change in the way people of Kambala eats?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here in Kambala there are so many tribes, for example the Maasai because of living with other tribes so through that interaction you will find that they married Swahili people so definitely they will change the way they used to eat so as to accommodate everyone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else is the reason to the changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.012502050163659151, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Here in Kambala there are so many tribes, for example the Maasai because of living with other tribes so through that interaction you will find that they married Swahili people so definitely they will change the way they used to eat so as to accommodate everyone."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What else is the reason to the changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another reason?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know any other reason."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the availability of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.013891166848510168, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another reason?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know any other reason."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the availability of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can that make the people change what they used to eat?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:253", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.015434629831677964, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know any other reason."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the availability of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can that make the people change what they used to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, nowadays it is very easy to get food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying it is very easy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:255", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.017149588701864404, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can that make the people change what they used to eat?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, nowadays it is very easy to get food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying it is very easy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has been easy because if you go to the market you will find bananas, fish, tomatoes, capsicum you will find almost everything which you want .These things were not there in the past but nowadays it is very simple to get them in the market it is only your money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about taking children to school, Do you think that has changed the eating habits of the people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:259", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.021172331730696794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has been easy because if you go to the market you will find bananas, fish, tomatoes, capsicum you will find almost everything which you want .These things were not there in the past but nowadays it is very simple to get them in the market it is only your money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about taking children to school, Do you think that has changed the eating habits of the people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When children are educated and when they go back home they educate their parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do they educate their parents?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:261", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.02352481303410755, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When children are educated and when they go back home they educate their parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do they educate their parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they go to school and they see or taught something that they can apply to their life or they have gone round town probably they have gone to the markets and seen things which are been sold that are good for the family then when they come back home they will teach their parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have told me very many things including technology, interaction of the tribes, availability of food and children going to school are the reasons that people change the way they eat."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:263", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.026138681149008386, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When children are educated and when they go back home they educate their parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do they educate their parents?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they go to school and they see or taught something that they can apply to their life or they have gone round town probably they have gone to the markets and seen things which are been sold that are good for the family then when they come back home they will teach their parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have told me very many things including technology, interaction of the tribes, availability of food and children going to school are the reasons that people change the way they eat."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know how these changes have affected you positively and negatively meaning the profits and loss you have incurred from these eating habits?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:265", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.02904297905445376, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they go to school and they see or taught something that they can apply to their life or they have gone round town probably they have gone to the markets and seen things which are been sold that are good for the family then when they come back home they will teach their parents."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have told me very many things including technology, interaction of the tribes, availability of food and children going to school are the reasons that people change the way they eat."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would like to know how these changes have affected you positively and negatively meaning the profits and loss you have incurred from these eating habits?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For me I have benefited a lot so there is a positive effect because I eat well together with my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the negative effects that you have experienced from these changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:269", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.03585552969685649, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For me I have benefited a lot so there is a positive effect because I eat well together with my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the negative effects that you have experienced from these changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Loss."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmh..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no loss."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are these changes affected the family especially men either negatively or positively by these forms of eating like in these days they take tea with maandazi or chapatti?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:271", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.039839477440951655, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Loss."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmh..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no loss."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are these changes affected the family especially men either negatively or positively by these forms of eating like in these days they take tea with maandazi or chapatti?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are none."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the boys, the girls and women what are some of the positive changes occurred to them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:273", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.04426608604550184, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no loss."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How are these changes affected the family especially men either negatively or positively by these forms of eating like in these days they take tea with maandazi or chapatti?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are none."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the boys, the girls and women what are some of the positive changes occurred to them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are none I think it is just normal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let us talk about another part which is about ways of getting milk I would like to know if you know that milk is important to you and your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:275", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0491845400505576, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are none."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the boys, the girls and women what are some of the positive changes occurred to them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are none I think it is just normal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let us talk about another part which is about ways of getting milk I would like to know if you know that milk is important to you and your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think that milk is important?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:277", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.054649488945063995, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are none I think it is just normal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let us talk about another part which is about ways of getting milk I would like to know if you know that milk is important to you and your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think that milk is important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because it can be taken as food by children and also women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say it is taken as food, what is the importance of milk in the body?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:279", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.06072165438340444, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think that milk is important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because it can be taken as food by children and also women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say it is taken as food, what is the importance of milk in the body?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk? It is very important in the body of the child the father and also in the body of the mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How? What do they get after drinking milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:281", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.06746850487044938, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because it can be taken as food by children and also women."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you say it is taken as food, what is the importance of milk in the body?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk? It is very important in the body of the child the father and also in the body of the mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How? What do they get after drinking milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get vitamin A"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They get vitamin A?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:283", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.07496500541161041, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Milk? It is very important in the body of the child the father and also in the body of the mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How? What do they get after drinking milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get vitamin A"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They get vitamin A?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is milk important in your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:285", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0832944504573449, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They get vitamin A"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They get vitamin A?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is milk important in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the milk very important?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:287", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.09254938939704989, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is milk important in your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the milk very important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because the children drink milk also we use milk to prepare tea and we also use milk a relish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about selling the milk to get money? Do you sell milk to get money?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:289", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.10283265488561098, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is the milk very important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because the children drink milk also we use milk to prepare tea and we also use milk a relish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about selling the milk to get money? Do you sell milk to get money?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh...we sell it during the rainy season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Milk is also important in earning you a living?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:291", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.11425850542845664, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because the children drink milk also we use milk to prepare tea and we also use milk a relish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about selling the milk to get money? Do you sell milk to get money?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh...we sell it during the rainy season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Milk is also important in earning you a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeehh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in preparation of vegetables, for example when preparing vegetables, beans or any others food do you milk used as part of ingredients?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:293", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12695389492050738, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeeh...we sell it during the rainy season."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Milk is also important in earning you a living?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeehh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in preparation of vegetables, for example when preparing vegetables, beans or any others food do you milk used as part of ingredients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or you do not use it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:295", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1410598832450082, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeehh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about in preparation of vegetables, for example when preparing vegetables, beans or any others food do you milk used as part of ingredients?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or you do not use it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We use milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why do you use the milk as an ingredient in the preparation of food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:297", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.15673320360556467, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or you do not use it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We use milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why do you use the milk as an ingredient in the preparation of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has a very nice taste in vegetable also in bananas it taste very nice is like when you use coconut in vegetable or in the bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, I would like us the availability of milk in your area, we have heard that in Kambala supply of milk has gone down It is not like in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:299", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.17414800400618297, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We use milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So why do you use the milk as an ingredient in the preparation of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has a very nice taste in vegetable also in bananas it taste very nice is like when you use coconut in vegetable or in the bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, I would like us the availability of milk in your area, we have heard that in Kambala supply of milk has gone down It is not like in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even the price is a bit higher?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:301", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.19349778222909217, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has a very nice taste in vegetable also in bananas it taste very nice is like when you use coconut in vegetable or in the bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother, I would like us the availability of milk in your area, we have heard that in Kambala supply of milk has gone down It is not like in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even the price is a bit higher?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know what has contributed to shortage of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:303", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2149975358101024, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even the price is a bit higher?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know what has contributed to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no pasture for our livestock to feed and this is due to draught."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it because of drought?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:305", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.23888615090011375, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mmmh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother I would like to know what has contributed to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no pasture for our livestock to feed and this is due to draught."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it because of drought?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from drought what are the other reasons that contribute to the shortage of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:307", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.26542905655568194, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no pasture for our livestock to feed and this is due to draught."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it because of drought?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from drought what are the other reasons that contribute to the shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows produce milk when they eat enough grass and water, in the past we used to have a lot of grass and water was also near but nowadays there is no grass around you have to take cows very far to drink water and feed so it has been hard for the children to get milk because we do not have enough for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the conflicts? Do you think this is the reason as to why milk is not in plenty?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:309", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.29492117395075773, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eehh..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from drought what are the other reasons that contribute to the shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows produce milk when they eat enough grass and water, in the past we used to have a lot of grass and water was also near but nowadays there is no grass around you have to take cows very far to drink water and feed so it has been hard for the children to get milk because we do not have enough for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the conflicts? Do you think this is the reason as to why milk is not in plenty?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are some of the Conflicts in Kambala?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:311", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3276901932786197, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cows produce milk when they eat enough grass and water, in the past we used to have a lot of grass and water was also near but nowadays there is no grass around you have to take cows very far to drink water and feed so it has been hard for the children to get milk because we do not have enough for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the conflicts? Do you think this is the reason as to why milk is not in plenty?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are some of the Conflicts in Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Conflicts between farmers and pastoralists is about the land because farmer have planted their produce and pastoralists graze their animals on the same farm especially during the dry season because they do not have anywhere to take their animals so conflict occurs between them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has conflict made it hard to get milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:315", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4045557941711354, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Conflicts between farmers and pastoralists is about the land because farmer have planted their produce and pastoralists graze their animals on the same farm especially during the dry season because they do not have anywhere to take their animals so conflict occurs between them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has conflict made it hard to get milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I said it is because of conflict between them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some have sold their cows so as to reduce their number."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about lifestyle changes especially how we keep our animals like keeping them away or zero grazing do you thinks you think this is a reason which has led to shortage of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:317", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4495064379679282, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I said it is because of conflict between them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mmmh..."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some have sold their cows so as to reduce their number."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about lifestyle changes especially how we keep our animals like keeping them away or zero grazing do you thinks you think this is a reason which has led to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it is the same way we kept them. The reason is shortage of the grass and water because of prolonged dry season so nowadays we have to go far for them to feed and drink water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay...I would like us to talk about buying food in the market."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:319", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.49945159774214243, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some have sold their cows so as to reduce their number."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what about lifestyle changes especially how we keep our animals like keeping them away or zero grazing do you thinks you think this is a reason which has led to shortage of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it is the same way we kept them. The reason is shortage of the grass and water because of prolonged dry season so nowadays we have to go far for them to feed and drink water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay...I would like us to talk about buying food in the market."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your family, who has the responsibility of going to buy food in the market?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:321", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5549462197134916, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it is the same way we kept them. The reason is shortage of the grass and water because of prolonged dry season so nowadays we have to go far for them to feed and drink water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay...I would like us to talk about buying food in the market."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your family, who has the responsibility of going to buy food in the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father (man of the house)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which types of food does he normally buy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:323", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6166069107927684, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In your family, who has the responsibility of going to buy food in the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father (man of the house)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which types of food does he normally buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize, beans even onions he can go to buy but the main food which the father can go to buy is the maize .The others like the vegetables the mother can buy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is concerned in budgeting of food in your household?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:325", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6851187897697426, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the father (man of the house)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And which types of food does he normally buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize, beans even onions he can go to buy but the main food which the father can go to buy is the maize .The others like the vegetables the mother can buy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is concerned in budgeting of food in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is prepared by both the mother and father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who makes the final decision?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:327", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7612430997441585, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize, beans even onions he can go to buy but the main food which the father can go to buy is the maize .The others like the vegetables the mother can buy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who is concerned in budgeting of food in your household?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is prepared by both the mother and father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who makes the final decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the man of the house (father)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I f you compare when you living with your parents and now that you have your family is there any difference in the type of food you buy in the market?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:329", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8458256663823983, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is prepared by both the mother and father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who makes the final decision?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the man of the house (father)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I f you compare when you living with your parents and now that you have your family is there any difference in the type of food you buy in the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no big difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is the difference?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:331", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9398062959804425, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is the man of the house (father)."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I f you compare when you living with your parents and now that you have your family is there any difference in the type of food you buy in the market?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no big difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is the difference?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now there are very many things not like in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying many things?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:333", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0442292177560473, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is no big difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what is the difference?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now there are very many things not like in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying many things?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays there are many things to buy in the market like green pepper, carrots, tomatoes unlike in the past we were buying maize, beans and vegetables such us Amaranth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would also want to know how you prepare food for your family? And which type of food do you frequently prepare for your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:335", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.160254686395608, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now there are very many things not like in the past."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by saying many things?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays there are many things to buy in the market like green pepper, carrots, tomatoes unlike in the past we were buying maize, beans and vegetables such us Amaranth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would also want to know how you prepare food for your family? And which type of food do you frequently prepare for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The types of food I prepare most are ugali, rice and bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the reason that makes you to prepare this type of foods for your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:337", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2891718737728977, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nowadays there are many things to buy in the market like green pepper, carrots, tomatoes unlike in the past we were buying maize, beans and vegetables such us Amaranth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, mother I would also want to know how you prepare food for your family? And which type of food do you frequently prepare for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The types of food I prepare most are ugali, rice and bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the reason that makes you to prepare this type of foods for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because I like them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You like them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:339", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4324131930809973, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The types of food I prepare most are ugali, rice and bananas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the reason that makes you to prepare this type of foods for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because I like them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You like them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh… yes I like them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you like them or your family like them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:341", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5915702145344415, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because I like them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You like them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh… yes I like them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you like them or your family like them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My family likes them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from liking them what are other reasons?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:343", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7684113494827127, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh… yes I like them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you like them or your family like them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My family likes them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from liking them what are other reasons?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What do you mean?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other reasons that makes you or drives you to cook the foods you prepare for your family?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:345", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9649014994252363, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My family likes them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Apart from liking them what are other reasons?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "What do you mean?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other reasons that makes you or drives you to cook the foods you prepare for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot eat the same food every day that is why I buy different types of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the affordable price of food? Do you think this is a reason that makes you to cook the kind of food you buy?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:347", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1832238882502626, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What do you mean?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What other reasons that makes you or drives you to cook the foods you prepare for your family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot eat the same food every day that is why I buy different types of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the affordable price of food? Do you think this is a reason that makes you to cook the kind of food you buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oohhh, yes. Like rice is very easy to cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think availability of food makes you cook what you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:349", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4258043202780692, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot eat the same food every day that is why I buy different types of food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the affordable price of food? Do you think this is a reason that makes you to cook the kind of food you buy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oohhh, yes. Like rice is very easy to cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think availability of food makes you cook what you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, sometimes we cook food which is available for example if rice is available I may cook ugali in the afternoon and rice in the evening, you know I grow maize and also rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main reason that makes you cook the way you cook, is it because your family likes the food you cook or it because the food you cook is easy to prepare or the availability of the food, which among the three drives you to cook what you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:351", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.695338133642299, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oohhh, yes. Like rice is very easy to cook."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think availability of food makes you cook what you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, sometimes we cook food which is available for example if rice is available I may cook ugali in the afternoon and rice in the evening, you know I grow maize and also rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main reason that makes you cook the way you cook, is it because your family likes the food you cook or it because the food you cook is easy to prepare or the availability of the food, which among the three drives you to cook what you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because I personally grow them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason makes you do that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:353", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.9948201484914434, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, sometimes we cook food which is available for example if rice is available I may cook ugali in the afternoon and rice in the evening, you know I grow maize and also rice."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the main reason that makes you cook the way you cook, is it because your family likes the food you cook or it because the food you cook is easy to prepare or the availability of the food, which among the three drives you to cook what you cook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because I personally grow them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason makes you do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because I like the food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you mother for your good answers. Mama I would like to know how you deal with disaster like food shortage I would like to know when you were living with your parents in Makanya did the food shortage or famine occurred if yes when was it and what did you do to combat the situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:355", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.216466831657159, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because I personally grow them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which other reason makes you do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because I like the food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you mother for your good answers. Mama I would like to know how you deal with disaster like food shortage I would like to know when you were living with your parents in Makanya did the food shortage or famine occurred if yes when was it and what did you do to combat the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was the year 1977."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said in 1977 there was a famine?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:357", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.4627409240635103, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because I like the food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, thank you mother for your good answers. Mama I would like to know how you deal with disaster like food shortage I would like to know when you were living with your parents in Makanya did the food shortage or famine occurred if yes when was it and what did you do to combat the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was the year 1977."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said in 1977 there was a famine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there was a famine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for how long did the famine last?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:361", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8058529926710005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there was a famine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And for how long did the famine last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was there for a duration of I do not remember well but I think three months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Three months?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not remember very well because I was young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know the reason behind 1977 famine?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:363", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.0065033251900006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was there for a duration of I do not remember well but I think three months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Three months?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not remember very well because I was young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know the reason behind 1977 famine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no rain and my parents planted maize hoping that it will rain but there was no rain, the whole of Kilimanjaro region and its environ were dry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which strategies did your family use to overcome the situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:365", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2294481391000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not remember very well because I was young."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know the reason behind 1977 famine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no rain and my parents planted maize hoping that it will rain but there was no rain, the whole of Kilimanjaro region and its environ were dry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which strategies did your family use to overcome the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had to sell cows and use the money to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and who were the most affected people?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:367", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4771645990000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no rain and my parents planted maize hoping that it will rain but there was no rain, the whole of Kilimanjaro region and its environ were dry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which strategies did your family use to overcome the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had to sell cows and use the money to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and who were the most affected people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The fathers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why the fathers?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:369", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.75240511, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had to sell cows and use the money to buy food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and who were the most affected people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The fathers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why the fathers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are the providers and also responsible to sell like cows so as to buy food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did famine change how you eat? May be you had to eat small portion or a lot or your portions remained the same?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:371", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0582279000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The fathers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why the fathers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are the providers and also responsible to sell like cows so as to buy food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did famine change how you eat? May be you had to eat small portion or a lot or your portions remained the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our portions reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you were to differentiate how adults and young children were eating?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:373", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.3980310000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are the providers and also responsible to sell like cows so as to buy food for the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did famine change how you eat? May be you had to eat small portion or a lot or your portions remained the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our portions reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you were to differentiate how adults and young children were eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men and the young ones?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Adults and the young children how was their eating like?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:375", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7755900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Our portions reduced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you were to differentiate how adults and young children were eating?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men and the young ones?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Adults and the young children how was their eating like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the mother would cook food and the children will eat first then after they are full then she will eat that remained."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So mothers are the most affected by famine?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:377", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.1951, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Men and the young ones?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Adults and the young children how was their eating like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the mother would cook food and the children will eat first then after they are full then she will eat that remained."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So mothers are the most affected by famine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both mother and father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, have you experience food shortage in recent years here in Kambala?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:379", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.439, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, the mother would cook food and the children will eat first then after they are full then she will eat that remained."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So mothers are the most affected by famine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both mother and father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, have you experience food shortage in recent years here in Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The time of El-nino, I cannot remember the year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which year was that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:381", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.71, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both mother and father."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, have you experience food shortage in recent years here in Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The time of El-nino, I cannot remember the year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which year was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot remember the year but the rain was too much such that the crops in the farm were destroyed because of rain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long did it last?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:383", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The time of El-nino, I cannot remember the year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which year was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot remember the year but the rain was too much such that the crops in the farm were destroyed because of rain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long did it last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not remember whether it was three months or four months because even bananas were not there rain washed away everything in the farm including sugarcane it was a disaster."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you do to combat the situation?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:385", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I cannot remember the year but the rain was too much such that the crops in the farm were destroyed because of rain."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For how long did it last?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not remember whether it was three months or four months because even bananas were not there rain washed away everything in the farm including sugarcane it was a disaster."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you do to combat the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize was not readily available when you go to the market there was no maize which was being sold but at least you will find bananas and arrowroots being sold. I remember there was maize flour called Zainabu we used to buy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why was this maize flour being called zainabu?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:387", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not remember whether it was three months or four months because even bananas were not there rain washed away everything in the farm including sugarcane it was a disaster."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you do to combat the situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize was not readily available when you go to the market there was no maize which was being sold but at least you will find bananas and arrowroots being sold. I remember there was maize flour called Zainabu we used to buy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why was this maize flour being called zainabu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know probably the owner of the company is called zainabu that is why he called the maize flour that name but I am no sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the most affected person?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:389", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maize was not readily available when you go to the market there was no maize which was being sold but at least you will find bananas and arrowroots being sold. I remember there was maize flour called Zainabu we used to buy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why was this maize flour being called zainabu?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know probably the owner of the company is called zainabu that is why he called the maize flour that name but I am no sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the most affected person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mother. She is the one who was affected most."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why the mother?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:391", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do not know probably the owner of the company is called zainabu that is why he called the maize flour that name but I am no sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was the most affected person?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mother. She is the one who was affected most."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why the mother?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I have experienced it, you as a mother you cannot eat before your children have eaten."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and how was your eating like, May be you had to eat a small portion or a lot or your portions remained the same?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:393", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The mother. She is the one who was affected most."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why the mother?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I have experienced it, you as a mother you cannot eat before your children have eaten."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and how was your eating like, May be you had to eat a small portion or a lot or your portions remained the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were taking a little."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was taking more than the others?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:395", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I have experienced it, you as a mother you cannot eat before your children have eaten."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, and how was your eating like, May be you had to eat a small portion or a lot or your portions remained the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were taking a little."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was taking more than the others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course the children were eating until they were satisfied then their father and I."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you compare when you were living with your parents and now that you have your own house here in Kambala is there a difference in ways of fighting against food shortage or it is the same?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:397", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were taking a little."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was taking more than the others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course the children were eating until they were satisfied then their father and I."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you compare when you were living with your parents and now that you have your own house here in Kambala is there a difference in ways of fighting against food shortage or it is the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are differences when we were young my father used to go the market very far from where we were staying and buy my mother used to stay indoors and wait for my father to bring food but nowadays women are enlightened we do not wait for the men we go to the market and buy bananas or anything and cook for the family, sometimes I sell milk and use the money to buy food for my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was milk in plenty during the El Nino?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:399", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course the children were eating until they were satisfied then their father and I."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If you compare when you were living with your parents and now that you have your own house here in Kambala is there a difference in ways of fighting against food shortage or it is the same?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are differences when we were young my father used to go the market very far from where we were staying and buy my mother used to stay indoors and wait for my father to bring food but nowadays women are enlightened we do not wait for the men we go to the market and buy bananas or anything and cook for the family, sometimes I sell milk and use the money to buy food for my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was milk in plenty during the El Nino?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes because the cows had a lot of pasture to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were earning a living through selling of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:401", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are differences when we were young my father used to go the market very far from where we were staying and buy my mother used to stay indoors and wait for my father to bring food but nowadays women are enlightened we do not wait for the men we go to the market and buy bananas or anything and cook for the family, sometimes I sell milk and use the money to buy food for my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was milk in plenty during the El Nino?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes because the cows had a lot of pasture to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were earning a living through selling of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeehh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about selling cows?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:403", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ohh yes because the cows had a lot of pasture to eat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were earning a living through selling of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeehh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about selling cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "people were selling cows but not so many because milk was in plenty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, we have come to the end of our conversation."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:405", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Eeehh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about selling cows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "people were selling cows but not so many because milk was in plenty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, we have come to the end of our conversation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As we end up our conversation there are a few additional questions."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:407", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "people were selling cows but not so many because milk was in plenty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay mother, we have come to the end of our conversation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As we end up our conversation there are a few additional questions."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would know. Where do the people in Kambala get the information about food nutrition, clean environment and also about the types of foods for the purpose of having a good health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:409", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As we end up our conversation there are a few additional questions."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would know. Where do the people in Kambala get the information about food nutrition, clean environment and also about the types of foods for the purpose of having a good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is in the hospital when they attend clinics."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On your side, where did you get this news concerning the feeding habits, the issues of health, the forms of eating, where did you get them from?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:411", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I would know. Where do the people in Kambala get the information about food nutrition, clean environment and also about the types of foods for the purpose of having a good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is in the hospital when they attend clinics."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On your side, where did you get this news concerning the feeding habits, the issues of health, the forms of eating, where did you get them from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From the hospital when I was taking my children and also through education which I learnt that eating nutritious food is important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is the food important in the body or what do you think food do in the body?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:413", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is in the hospital when they attend clinics."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "On your side, where did you get this news concerning the feeding habits, the issues of health, the forms of eating, where did you get them from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From the hospital when I was taking my children and also through education which I learnt that eating nutritious food is important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is the food important in the body or what do you think food do in the body?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They build the body; they protect the body even you cannot get diseases easily."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Do you think food education, about the feeding habits, and also health is important to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:417", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They build the body; they protect the body even you cannot get diseases easily."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Do you think food education, about the feeding habits, and also health is important to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because a mother or a woman is the pillar of the family so it is very important for her to know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How will you benefit from it if you know it?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:419", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because a mother or a woman is the pillar of the family so it is very important for her to know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How will you benefit from it if you know it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will help me together with my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does it help you if you say it will help you and your family? How will it help you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:421", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important because a mother or a woman is the pillar of the family so it is very important for her to know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How will you benefit from it if you know it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will help me together with my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does it help you if you say it will help you and your family? How will it help you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will help me to build my body and my children healthy and also educating my children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother in which ways do you think this information about the food, about the health, can be beneficial in the community and people of Kambala?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:423", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will help me together with my family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How does it help you if you say it will help you and your family? How will it help you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will help me to build my body and my children healthy and also educating my children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother in which ways do you think this information about the food, about the health, can be beneficial in the community and people of Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it important?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:425", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will help me to build my body and my children healthy and also educating my children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mother in which ways do you think this information about the food, about the health, can be beneficial in the community and people of Kambala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are very important because you can live well with your children and the family I general because you can build and protect your body from the disease so it is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you think this information about the eating habits, health and the forms of eating reached the people of Kambala so that many Kambala knows and practise them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:427", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is it important?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are very important because you can live well with your children and the family I general because you can build and protect your body from the disease so it is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you think this information about the eating habits, health and the forms of eating reached the people of Kambala so that many Kambala knows and practise them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through education, people to be educated everyone to know that he is very important in the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we educate them? Is it in schools or can we conduct seminars or hospitals?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:429", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are very important because you can live well with your children and the family I general because you can build and protect your body from the disease so it is very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you think this information about the eating habits, health and the forms of eating reached the people of Kambala so that many Kambala knows and practise them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through education, people to be educated everyone to know that he is very important in the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we educate them? Is it in schools or can we conduct seminars or hospitals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Like a seminar is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which people should be educated?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:431", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through education, people to be educated everyone to know that he is very important in the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How can we educate them? Is it in schools or can we conduct seminars or hospitals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Like a seminar is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which people should be educated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Father and mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why father and mother?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:433", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Like a seminar is good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which people should be educated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Father and mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why father and mother?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I say father and mother, father and mother are the pillars of the family. So it is very important for them to be informed so that they can educate others in the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And whom do you think should bring this information to Kambala so that people can hear about them?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:435", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Father and mother."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why father and mother?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I say father and mother, father and mother are the pillars of the family. So it is very important for them to be informed so that they can educate others in the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And whom do you think should bring this information to Kambala so that people can hear about them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Health officer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay...I am grateful for your good answers; we have come to the end of our conversation."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00018:437", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I say father and mother, father and mother are the pillars of the family. So it is very important for them to be informed so that they can educate others in the family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And whom do you think should bring this information to Kambala so that people can hear about them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Health officer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay...I am grateful for your good answers; we have come to the end of our conversation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you very much."}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9321387491969495, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are doing good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "My name is Zahara Majili, I am with sister Mariana Kinabo and bother Mbaba Malaki. We are from the Sokoine University of agriculture we are working with International organisation which deals with agriculture and it is known as IRI which is based in Nairobi and also it has his offices in Dar es Salaam. It is not the first time to hear about that to you. It came few years ago with project known as More Milk (Maziwa Zaidi). We are aslo working with Emory University which is found in USA. We are in the research we want understand the food changes in community and house hold also to study what is causing these changes. We came here in February this year we talked with some of the people and we discovered that there are new things which we don’t understand and hence we want to know more about that that is why we come to do more discussion on those issues that raised questions and understand how we can assist the community and house hold to improve the nutrition and food issues. We will be using recorders…….. (Consent processes going on-Abdulaziz Juma)\n\nLet me start with the first section; We all know that in most societies, so many changes have been occurring, At the moment we can say those natural food is not very common as they used to be consumed in the past. Also, the way we cook have changed. The way we were cooking meat is not the same as how we used to cook in the past. Do you all agree with that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How we used cook meat in the past comparing to the current time we have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to boil meat for so long but currently we cut it into pieces and roast the raw meat with tomatoes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhhh so now you fry more than boiling? But we also have seen there are some food which are no more eaten and there are those that we consume. Example fish though some of Masai don’t consume it but there are Masai who are consuming it. They also eat sardines, chicken, rice, beans, and vegetables. These were not there among Masai society. What about Wagogo community?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.035709721329944, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How we used cook meat in the past comparing to the current time we have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to boil meat for so long but currently we cut it into pieces and roast the raw meat with tomatoes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhhh so now you fry more than boiling? But we also have seen there are some food which are no more eaten and there are those that we consume. Example fish though some of Masai don’t consume it but there are Masai who are consuming it. They also eat sardines, chicken, rice, beans, and vegetables. These were not there among Masai society. What about Wagogo community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to eat Leaf Jute and dried cowpea leaves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about this time? You don’t dry the cowpea leaves. So, we have seen there are some changes it is either those natural old food is no more eaten or are less consumed. So, what caused this, why people are not more eating the natural food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1507885792554933, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to boil meat for so long but currently we cut it into pieces and roast the raw meat with tomatoes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhhh so now you fry more than boiling? But we also have seen there are some food which are no more eaten and there are those that we consume. Example fish though some of Masai don’t consume it but there are Masai who are consuming it. They also eat sardines, chicken, rice, beans, and vegetables. These were not there among Masai society. What about Wagogo community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to eat Leaf Jute and dried cowpea leaves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about this time? You don’t dry the cowpea leaves. So, we have seen there are some changes it is either those natural old food is no more eaten or are less consumed. So, what caused this, why people are not more eating the natural food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is copying others or imitating, globalization when you eat Jute people see you as poorest person (All laughter)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by globalization?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.278653976950548, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We used to eat Leaf Jute and dried cowpea leaves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about this time? You don’t dry the cowpea leaves. So, we have seen there are some changes it is either those natural old food is no more eaten or are less consumed. So, what caused this, why people are not more eating the natural food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is copying others or imitating, globalization when you eat Jute people see you as poorest person (All laughter)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by globalization?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This means that there are foods that we used to eat in the past, when you eat it you are the poorest, some say that they cause malnutrition to the children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the other reasons for changing food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4207266410561645, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is copying others or imitating, globalization when you eat Jute people see you as poorest person (All laughter)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by globalization?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This means that there are foods that we used to eat in the past, when you eat it you are the poorest, some say that they cause malnutrition to the children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the other reasons for changing food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to milk the cow and after getting the milk we take it with stiff porridge which is made from cassava."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made the change now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5785851567290716, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This means that there are foods that we used to eat in the past, when you eat it you are the poorest, some say that they cause malnutrition to the children."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are the other reasons for changing food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to milk the cow and after getting the milk we take it with stiff porridge which is made from cassava."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made the change now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Development made us to change, the school and the church contributed to this"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "can you elaborate more on that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.7539835074767463, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to milk the cow and after getting the milk we take it with stiff porridge which is made from cassava."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made the change now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Development made us to change, the school and the church contributed to this"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "can you elaborate more on that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is just you read until you understand what is the development, also in the church there are teaching that teach us about the church"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8377594527519402, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Development made us to change, the school and the church contributed to this"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "can you elaborate more on that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is just you read until you understand what is the development, also in the church there are teaching that teach us about the church"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can add one more thing, when we were young we used to eat more meat, we used to live in the forest like three months eating meat, even the water that we were consuming were mixed up with milk. But we are now seeing changes our children are not going to the forest"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are children are not going to forest now days?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9308438363910446, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is just you read until you understand what is the development, also in the church there are teaching that teach us about the church"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can add one more thing, when we were young we used to eat more meat, we used to live in the forest like three months eating meat, even the water that we were consuming were mixed up with milk. But we are now seeing changes our children are not going to the forest"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are children are not going to forest now days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because they are going to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another one else? Takwenya (Interviewer greeting in Masai Language) what changed Masai; that they are now eating fish, chicken,eggs, chips"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1491899214704255, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because they are going to school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another one else? Takwenya (Interviewer greeting in Masai Language) what changed Masai; that they are now eating fish, chicken,eggs, chips"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t use sardines"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Chips"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we use it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What contributed to that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.276877690522695, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t use sardines"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Chips"}, {"role": "user", "content": "we use it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What contributed to that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we walk around we see chips, and they are good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you eating beans now days?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.418752989469661, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "we use it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What contributed to that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we walk around we see chips, and they are good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you eating beans now days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "so, while we work around we see those foods we buy and come to cook home and they are delicious"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason? Are you consuming milk like in the past time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5763922105218457, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we walk around we see chips, and they are good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you eating beans now days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "so, while we work around we see those foods we buy and come to cook home and they are delicious"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason? Are you consuming milk like in the past time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we have changed now as most of the time we use to live in forest but now its different"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason that contributed to consume less the traditional food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7515469005798285, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "so, while we work around we see those foods we buy and come to cook home and they are delicious"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason? Are you consuming milk like in the past time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we have changed now as most of the time we use to live in forest but now its different"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason that contributed to consume less the traditional food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Lets now go to the Lifestyle/livelihood changes, let’s say in the past people were depending on certain issues to survive and get food, what can you talk about that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.946163222866476, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we have changed now as most of the time we use to live in forest but now its different"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason that contributed to consume less the traditional food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Lets now go to the Lifestyle/livelihood changes, let’s say in the past people were depending on certain issues to survive and get food, what can you talk about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let say The Masai community, depend much on cattle to survive. But it is different now; the children now days because of education when you give them meat they will tell you am still hungry can you give stiff porridge?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are they currently depending on?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.162403580962751, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Lets now go to the Lifestyle/livelihood changes, let’s say in the past people were depending on certain issues to survive and get food, what can you talk about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let say The Masai community, depend much on cattle to survive. But it is different now; the children now days because of education when you give them meat they will tell you am still hungry can you give stiff porridge?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are they currently depending on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They still depend on cattle, but they have also the maize"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you farm?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:37", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6696340505712977, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They still depend on cattle, but they have also the maize"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you farm?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we cultivate"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because men used to sell cow in the past and bring money home but now we are all think what to do to get food, if he wants to sell your cow you will stop him if you don’t like. If he doesn’t want it is better for him to find you a job, also when the child is grown up they will find the work to do. But not all of them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do to get money?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:39", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9662600561903307, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we cultivate"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because men used to sell cow in the past and bring money home but now we are all think what to do to get food, if he wants to sell your cow you will stop him if you don’t like. If he doesn’t want it is better for him to find you a job, also when the child is grown up they will find the work to do. But not all of them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do to get money?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sell chicken, cattle, and goats"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do you do with money in relation with food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:41", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.295844506878145, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because men used to sell cow in the past and bring money home but now we are all think what to do to get food, if he wants to sell your cow you will stop him if you don’t like. If he doesn’t want it is better for him to find you a job, also when the child is grown up they will find the work to do. But not all of them"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you do to get money?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sell chicken, cattle, and goats"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do you do with money in relation with food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy food, salt, vegetable, beans and other things and then we keep them at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do the changes of work that you do contribute to this?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 3.6620494520868276, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sell chicken, cattle, and goats"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what do you do with money in relation with food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy food, salt, vegetable, beans and other things and then we keep them at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do the changes of work that you do contribute to this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes-(laughter)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, another one, what about price changes, did this contribute to this change in any way?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:45", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7356105023186973, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We buy food, salt, vegetable, beans and other things and then we keep them at home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do the changes of work that you do contribute to this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes-(laughter)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, another one, what about price changes, did this contribute to this change in any way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are changes compared to the old time, because we used to buy a bucket of maize for 25,000Tsh but now we buy for 10,000Tsh plus grinding is 11500Tsh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if you don’t have money, how is that affecting the food change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:47", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8173450025763304, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes-(laughter)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "okay, another one, what about price changes, did this contribute to this change in any way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are changes compared to the old time, because we used to buy a bucket of maize for 25,000Tsh but now we buy for 10,000Tsh plus grinding is 11500Tsh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if you don’t have money, how is that affecting the food change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you don’t have money you will not eat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you can tell me if you don’t have money you will eat the food that is equivalent to your money?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:49", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9081611139737004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are changes compared to the old time, because we used to buy a bucket of maize for 25,000Tsh but now we buy for 10,000Tsh plus grinding is 11500Tsh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if you don’t have money, how is that affecting the food change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you don’t have money you will not eat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you can tell me if you don’t have money you will eat the food that is equivalent to your money?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How food availability, presence of much food is contributing to food changes"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0090679044152226, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you don’t have money you will not eat"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you can tell me if you don’t have money you will eat the food that is equivalent to your money?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How food availability, presence of much food is contributing to food changes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a lot of food, the problem is that we don’t have money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other reason, what about food availability, how is this contributing to food changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:53", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1211865604613585, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How food availability, presence of much food is contributing to food changes"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a lot of food, the problem is that we don’t have money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other reason, what about food availability, how is this contributing to food changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat fruits"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who taught you to eat that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:55", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2457628449570648, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There is a lot of food, the problem is that we don’t have money"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any other reason, what about food availability, how is this contributing to food changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat fruits"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who taught you to eat that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We see people eating"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were banana there since the past time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.384180938841183, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat fruits"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who taught you to eat that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We see people eating"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were banana there since the past time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the cabbage?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.109710316782781, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Also, scarce or low availability of milk is contributing"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "why that"}, {"role": "user", "content": "because of the drought, cows are not providing enough milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have stereotyping resulted by eating a certain food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.34412257420309, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "because of the drought, cows are not providing enough milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have stereotyping resulted by eating a certain food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there are stereotyping, but you are not supposed to laugh at someone because of that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What foods if you eat people see you as well off"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4934695268923222, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have stereotyping resulted by eating a certain food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there are stereotyping, but you are not supposed to laugh at someone because of that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What foods if you eat people see you as well off"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The stiff porridge made using raw maize (Laugher)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Wagogo?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6594105854359136, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there are stereotyping, but you are not supposed to laugh at someone because of that"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What foods if you eat people see you as well off"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The stiff porridge made using raw maize (Laugher)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Wagogo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you take stiff porridge with milk it is delicious but during the summer time we take vegetable instead of milk. When the cows are back in rainy seasons we turn to milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What food if consumed in MELA people see you as well off?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8437895393732373, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The stiff porridge made using raw maize (Laugher)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Wagogo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you take stiff porridge with milk it is delicious but during the summer time we take vegetable instead of milk. When the cows are back in rainy seasons we turn to milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What food if consumed in MELA people see you as well off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have specific because it is not town. If it were town we could have been taking tea and burns, they are good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about other this is our discussion"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9375439326369305, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you take stiff porridge with milk it is delicious but during the summer time we take vegetable instead of milk. When the cows are back in rainy seasons we turn to milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What food if consumed in MELA people see you as well off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have specific because it is not town. If it were town we could have been taking tea and burns, they are good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about other this is our discussion"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is not town, there are no vegetable to buy there are no Banana, no cassava. We sometimes take tea and Maandazi, Rice. But sometimes you want Mandazi but the problem is the money to buy it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are so many things that contributed to changes of food you mentioned about globalization that if you eat jute you will be perceived as poor, mama L you mentioned about development and reading, how this contributed?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0417154807077005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have specific because it is not town. If it were town we could have been taking tea and burns, they are good"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what about other this is our discussion"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is not town, there are no vegetable to buy there are no Banana, no cassava. We sometimes take tea and Maandazi, Rice. But sometimes you want Mandazi but the problem is the money to buy it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are so many things that contributed to changes of food you mentioned about globalization that if you eat jute you will be perceived as poor, mama L you mentioned about development and reading, how this contributed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those who are coming (foreigner) in the village they educate us on nutrition issues, for us who are grown up we don’t understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen globalization and development; we also have seen church teaching that among of the teaching is nutritional topic. What exactly they taught you in church about nutrition?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1574616452307782, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This is not town, there are no vegetable to buy there are no Banana, no cassava. We sometimes take tea and Maandazi, Rice. But sometimes you want Mandazi but the problem is the money to buy it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are so many things that contributed to changes of food you mentioned about globalization that if you eat jute you will be perceived as poor, mama L you mentioned about development and reading, how this contributed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those who are coming (foreigner) in the village they educate us on nutrition issues, for us who are grown up we don’t understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen globalization and development; we also have seen church teaching that among of the teaching is nutritional topic. What exactly they taught you in church about nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They told us to change to be new person, because the word of God has changed us because we don’t go to which doctors anymore."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2860684947008647, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those who are coming (foreigner) in the village they educate us on nutrition issues, for us who are grown up we don’t understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen globalization and development; we also have seen church teaching that among of the teaching is nutritional topic. What exactly they taught you in church about nutrition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They told us to change to be new person, because the word of God has changed us because we don’t go to which doctors anymore."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did they tell you about food in church?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.428964994112072, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They told us to change to be new person, because the word of God has changed us because we don’t go to which doctors anymore."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did they tell you about food in church?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are going to seminars hence we eat various things we get amazed, they provide with banana, maandazi, bread. So, we learn there we buy bread and our children eat it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen exposure with other villagers, we have seen price of food and drought contribute to food change, and also the social status. So out of these 7 issues what contributed most for people to eat other food"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5877388823467464, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did they tell you about food in church?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are going to seminars hence we eat various things we get amazed, they provide with banana, maandazi, bread. So, we learn there we buy bread and our children eat it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen exposure with other villagers, we have seen price of food and drought contribute to food change, and also the social status. So out of these 7 issues what contributed most for people to eat other food"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number one is exposure to other places,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are you saying?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.764154313718607, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We are going to seminars hence we eat various things we get amazed, they provide with banana, maandazi, bread. So, we learn there we buy bread and our children eat it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We have seen exposure with other villagers, we have seen price of food and drought contribute to food change, and also the social status. So out of these 7 issues what contributed most for people to eat other food"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number one is exposure to other places,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are you saying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exposure to other places"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others what are you saying?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9601714596873412, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Number one is exposure to other places,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are you saying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exposure to other places"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others what are you saying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": ""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why education is contributing for this change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.17796828854149, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exposure to other places"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others what are you saying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": ""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why education is contributing for this change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children should study to become educated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying exposure/interaction can lead food changes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.4199647650461, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": ""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why education is contributing for this change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children should study to become educated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying exposure/interaction can lead food changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because in the past we were not interacting but now we can travel and see many things. I can it cabbage"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, we are agreeing that interacting/exposure(Kutembea) is the first thing-(Laughter)"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.688849738940111, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Children should study to become educated"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are you saying exposure/interaction can lead food changes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because in the past we were not interacting but now we can travel and see many things. I can it cabbage"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, we are agreeing that interacting/exposure(Kutembea) is the first thing-(Laughter)"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mh what is that? Talk about the education"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.319567578938409, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mh what is that? Talk about the education"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(Talking in Masai language)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She is saying that education is the key of life because they have their children who went to school and they are educating them how things should be. So, they wish if they had this education earlier it could have moved them they have their girls and boys in school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we agree that the education is the first thing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6884084210426766, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "(Talking in Masai language)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She is saying that education is the key of life because they have their children who went to school and they are educating them how things should be. So, they wish if they had this education earlier it could have moved them they have their girls and boys in school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we agree that the education is the first thing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the second one? After education we have remained with religion, globalization, exposure or visiting other places, going to hotel or any other place"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 4.098231578936307, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She is saying that education is the key of life because they have their children who went to school and they are educating them how things should be. So, they wish if they had this education earlier it could have moved them they have their girls and boys in school"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we agree that the education is the first thing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the second one? After education we have remained with religion, globalization, exposure or visiting other places, going to hotel or any other place"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(Talking Masai language)..Translater-(She said is drought because in the past there were no drought also this has caused milk scarcity as there are sometimes cattle move to search for pasture in distant places so when that happen the children are fed with tea and stiff porridge so the changes of weather and climatic condition has caused changes, in the past we didn’t eat vegetable but now we eat, also we are now using tomatoes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We heard about cattle movement and aridity condition as our fellow said? what else has contributed to this change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1091461988181186, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the second one? After education we have remained with religion, globalization, exposure or visiting other places, going to hotel or any other place"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(Talking Masai language)..Translater-(She said is drought because in the past there were no drought also this has caused milk scarcity as there are sometimes cattle move to search for pasture in distant places so when that happen the children are fed with tea and stiff porridge so the changes of weather and climatic condition has caused changes, in the past we didn’t eat vegetable but now we eat, also we are now using tomatoes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We heard about cattle movement and aridity condition as our fellow said? what else has contributed to this change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I n the past there were no issues like these, through moving we learn so many things in the past you can walk from Dodoma to Moro by foot but now we have motorcycles you move faster and get foods maandazi you buy but in the past we used to prepare the food like stiff porridge you store it well in “vihari” you also take some water in the bowl when you reach at a certain point you eat if it is two days it is two days journey. I am not sure if are foreigners who brought these means of transport (Wazungu) the bicycle, motorcycle, so we have can move a bit now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is VIHARI?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.121273554242354, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "(Talking Masai language)..Translater-(She said is drought because in the past there were no drought also this has caused milk scarcity as there are sometimes cattle move to search for pasture in distant places so when that happen the children are fed with tea and stiff porridge so the changes of weather and climatic condition has caused changes, in the past we didn’t eat vegetable but now we eat, also we are now using tomatoes"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We heard about cattle movement and aridity condition as our fellow said? what else has contributed to this change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I n the past there were no issues like these, through moving we learn so many things in the past you can walk from Dodoma to Moro by foot but now we have motorcycles you move faster and get foods maandazi you buy but in the past we used to prepare the food like stiff porridge you store it well in “vihari” you also take some water in the bowl when you reach at a certain point you eat if it is two days it is two days journey. I am not sure if are foreigners who brought these means of transport (Wazungu) the bicycle, motorcycle, so we have can move a bit now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is VIHARI?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I s bowl, cut into two pieces they sometime call them video, they can store stiff porridge and other staffs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay we can see the third thing is globalization what others are saying? you are so quiet why are you not talking? You didn’t get what asked?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.13474839360261556, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I n the past there were no issues like these, through moving we learn so many things in the past you can walk from Dodoma to Moro by foot but now we have motorcycles you move faster and get foods maandazi you buy but in the past we used to prepare the food like stiff porridge you store it well in “vihari” you also take some water in the bowl when you reach at a certain point you eat if it is two days it is two days journey. I am not sure if are foreigners who brought these means of transport (Wazungu) the bicycle, motorcycle, so we have can move a bit now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what is VIHARI?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I s bowl, cut into two pieces they sometime call them video, they can store stiff porridge and other staffs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay we can see the third thing is globalization what others are saying? you are so quiet why are you not talking? You didn’t get what asked?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We understood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you can respond now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.14972043733623952, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I s bowl, cut into two pieces they sometime call them video, they can store stiff porridge and other staffs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay we can see the third thing is globalization what others are saying? you are so quiet why are you not talking? You didn’t get what asked?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We understood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you can respond now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(Quite)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell among of these three issues what is the least contributing to food change?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1663560414847106, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We understood"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you can respond now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(Quite)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell among of these three issues what is the least contributing to food change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(Quite)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let me give you an example, in the past when you were going to the ceremonies you used to take the milk in the bowl which are of different sizes. Let say we take those milk and pour it in the bucket. Who could have brought more milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.18484004609412288, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "(Quite)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell among of these three issues what is the least contributing to food change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(Quite)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let me give you an example, in the past when you were going to the ceremonies you used to take the milk in the bowl which are of different sizes. Let say we take those milk and pour it in the bucket. Who could have brought more milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The one with big bowl"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The big one, right? So now we are talking about food change. We have seen the Masai are eating sardines, vegetables, beans. So, what is least contributed among the issues you mentioned?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.20537782899346987, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "(Quite)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let me give you an example, in the past when you were going to the ceremonies you used to take the milk in the bowl which are of different sizes. Let say we take those milk and pour it in the bucket. Who could have brought more milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The one with big bowl"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The big one, right? So now we are talking about food change. We have seen the Masai are eating sardines, vegetables, beans. So, what is least contributed among the issues you mentioned?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "( Not clearly understood what she really said)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.22819758777052207, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The one with big bowl"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The big one, right? So now we are talking about food change. We have seen the Masai are eating sardines, vegetables, beans. So, what is least contributed among the issues you mentioned?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "( Not clearly understood what she really said)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past I used to wonder those people who were eating fish, but I just look at them, that is it, we don’t talk even if we see our brothers eating fish"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s talk about the milk, I would like to know how is milk important in your life?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.25355287530058007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "( Not clearly understood what she really said)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past I used to wonder those people who were eating fish, but I just look at them, that is it, we don’t talk even if we see our brothers eating fish"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s talk about the milk, I would like to know how is milk important in your life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are important because they are taken along with stiff porrige"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why can’t you eat stiff porridge with other sources"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2817254170006445, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past I used to wonder those people who were eating fish, but I just look at them, that is it, we don’t talk even if we see our brothers eating fish"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s talk about the milk, I would like to know how is milk important in your life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are important because they are taken along with stiff porrige"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why can’t you eat stiff porridge with other sources"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How milk is useful to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3864546186565768, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have used to it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think is good food, you find somebody is poisoned but people quickly rush to find milk for the person to drink, is good health wise."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For me the milk is good, if you don’t have food you can drink and stay until evening hours without filling hungry because they are heavy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4293940207295298, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think is good food, you find somebody is poisoned but people quickly rush to find milk for the person to drink, is good health wise."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "how"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For me the milk is good, if you don’t have food you can drink and stay until evening hours without filling hungry because they are heavy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If a child is not doing well you can find some milk and give it for her/him to drink."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by good health?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4771044674772553, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For me the milk is good, if you don’t have food you can drink and stay until evening hours without filling hungry because they are heavy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If a child is not doing well you can find some milk and give it for her/him to drink."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Child being strong and happy, they always want the milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is milk important in your health"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5301160749747281, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If a child is not doing well you can find some milk and give it for her/him to drink."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean by good health?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Child being strong and happy, they always want the milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is milk important in your health"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They build the body to be strong, the milk is medicine compared to porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you compare your parents in the past and now, do you think the milk is in the same importance?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5890178610830312, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Child being strong and happy, they always want the milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is milk important in your health"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They build the body to be strong, the milk is medicine compared to porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you compare your parents in the past and now, do you think the milk is in the same importance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important compared to the current time because in the past there were no yoghurt"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is not available"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6544642900922569, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They build the body to be strong, the milk is medicine compared to porridge"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you compare your parents in the past and now, do you think the milk is in the same importance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important compared to the current time because in the past there were no yoghurt"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is not available"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the pasture is very scarce"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mbaba what is that? what is it called?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7271825445469521, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is important compared to the current time because in the past there were no yoghurt"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why is not available"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the pasture is very scarce"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mbaba what is that? what is it called?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lugher-I something which bring milk and make it to become yogurt"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is KOTITI"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.807980605052169, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because the pasture is very scarce"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mbaba what is that? what is it called?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lugher-I something which bring milk and make it to become yogurt"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is KOTITI"}, {"role": "user", "content": "use for milking, it is small bowl"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Wagogo, is still the milk very important to this time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8977562278357433, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lugher-I something which bring milk and make it to become yogurt"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is KOTITI"}, {"role": "user", "content": "use for milking, it is small bowl"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Wagogo, is still the milk very important to this time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, is still important until now, we eat vegetable, also the milk is available in Dodoma"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The milk availability is changed now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9975069198174925, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "use for milking, it is small bowl"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Wagogo, is still the milk very important to this time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, is still important until now, we eat vegetable, also the milk is available in Dodoma"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The milk availability is changed now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we agree"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is it now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.108341022019436, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, is still important until now, we eat vegetable, also the milk is available in Dodoma"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The milk availability is changed now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we agree"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is it now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The milk is available mostly during the rainy seasons, however it is not as abundant as in the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the reason?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.23149002446604, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we agree"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How is it now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The milk is available mostly during the rainy seasons, however it is not as abundant as in the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because the cows are now frequently sick not as before when they were healthy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When they are treated they don’t get enough milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.368322249406711, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The milk is available mostly during the rainy seasons, however it is not as abundant as in the past"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is the reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because the cows are now frequently sick not as before when they were healthy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When they are treated they don’t get enough milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not sure, they don’t get enough milk. This is because of its sickness\n\nmhhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about LONJO-moving cattle to the mountain searching for pasture"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5203580548963456, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because the cows are now frequently sick not as before when they were healthy"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When they are treated they don’t get enough milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not sure, they don’t get enough milk. This is because of its sickness\n\nmhhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about LONJO-moving cattle to the mountain searching for pasture"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they go there we don’t get enough milk, as some few cows remains at home but when it very dry they all move away"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is another reason than drought and moving cattle which lead to scarcity of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6892867276626062, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I am not sure, they don’t get enough milk. This is because of its sickness\n\nmhhh"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about LONJO-moving cattle to the mountain searching for pasture"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they go there we don’t get enough milk, as some few cows remains at home but when it very dry they all move away"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is another reason than drought and moving cattle which lead to scarcity of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the land conflict between the famers and pastoralist?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.8769852529584514, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When they go there we don’t get enough milk, as some few cows remains at home but when it very dry they all move away"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is another reason than drought and moving cattle which lead to scarcity of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "mm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the land conflict between the famers and pastoralist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some conflicts in MELA, some pastoralist come to graze their cattle into our farm, so we won’t accept this. We report to their parents and agree on what to do, there is minor conflicts"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the changes of living style/behaviour of those youth who are going to school? Did they still go for grazing?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9744280588427237, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "mm"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the land conflict between the famers and pastoralist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some conflicts in MELA, some pastoralist come to graze their cattle into our farm, so we won’t accept this. We report to their parents and agree on what to do, there is minor conflicts"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the changes of living style/behaviour of those youth who are going to school? Did they still go for grazing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends with the parents some allow their children to go for grazing while others don’t go. But I wonder in this place why there are conflicts, but back to Dodoma they cultivate, and they do pastoralism and there are no conflicts. The milk there is abundant, I come here since 1999."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is the flavour/test of milk still the same"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0826978431585819, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are some conflicts in MELA, some pastoralist come to graze their cattle into our farm, so we won’t accept this. We report to their parents and agree on what to do, there is minor conflicts"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the changes of living style/behaviour of those youth who are going to school? Did they still go for grazing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends with the parents some allow their children to go for grazing while others don’t go. But I wonder in this place why there are conflicts, but back to Dodoma they cultivate, and they do pastoralism and there are no conflicts. The milk there is abundant, I come here since 1999."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is the flavour/test of milk still the same"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the same"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among of the reasons you mentioned; aridity, cattle sickness, and movement. What is the first one to contribute scarcity of milk?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2029976035095353, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It depends with the parents some allow their children to go for grazing while others don’t go. But I wonder in this place why there are conflicts, but back to Dodoma they cultivate, and they do pastoralism and there are no conflicts. The milk there is abundant, I come here since 1999."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is the flavour/test of milk still the same"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the same"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among of the reasons you mentioned; aridity, cattle sickness, and movement. What is the first one to contribute scarcity of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think aridity is number one because there is no green pasture in summer time but now they are available only in rainy seasons"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3366640038994837, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the same"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Among of the reasons you mentioned; aridity, cattle sickness, and movement. What is the first one to contribute scarcity of milk?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think aridity is number one because there is no green pasture in summer time but now they are available only in rainy seasons"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no rains, also overpopulation of cow"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About cattle sickness and movement what is the second one?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.4851822265549819, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think aridity is number one because there is no green pasture in summer time but now they are available only in rainy seasons"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about others"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no rains, also overpopulation of cow"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About cattle sickness and movement what is the second one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(quite)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you eat blood, wagogo?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5390913628388687, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are no rains, also overpopulation of cow"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About cattle sickness and movement what is the second one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "(quite)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you eat blood, wagogo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat the one which are roasted with cooking oil and salt we call it NGONDE"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you eat it now?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.73949432488185, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t we are afraid of getting sick-wagogo"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat-wamasai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past people were mixing it with water and when you get sick you have to drink it, they also used to mix it with natural herbs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is still eating the blood the same comparing in the past and current time?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8216603609798333, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat-wamasai"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past people were mixing it with water and when you get sick you have to drink it, they also used to mix it with natural herbs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is still eating the blood the same comparing in the past and current time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now days it is not the same because you can drink the blood which is infected with diseases"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason?\n\nI heard in this community men take the cattle to mountains, is this for all?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9129559566442592, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past people were mixing it with water and when you get sick you have to drink it, they also used to mix it with natural herbs"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is still eating the blood the same comparing in the past and current time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now days it is not the same because you can drink the blood which is infected with diseases"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason?\n\nI heard in this community men take the cattle to mountains, is this for all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It only men, but some even the children who are not studying goes there. The elders do not go there. For us who remain at home we take care of the children if they are going to school, and of other issues like we are here with you now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you depend on while the cow is not around?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0143955073825102, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Now days it is not the same because you can drink the blood which is infected with diseases"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another reason?\n\nI heard in this community men take the cattle to mountains, is this for all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It only men, but some even the children who are not studying goes there. The elders do not go there. For us who remain at home we take care of the children if they are going to school, and of other issues like we are here with you now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you depend on while the cow is not around?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sometimes take the cow and sell them in the auction; we also find some job"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of the business?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1271061193139003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It only men, but some even the children who are not studying goes there. The elders do not go there. For us who remain at home we take care of the children if they are going to school, and of other issues like we are here with you now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you depend on while the cow is not around?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sometimes take the cow and sell them in the auction; we also find some job"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of the business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, if we don’t have food we sell the cow"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of cow that remains at home?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2523401325710002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We sometimes take the cow and sell them in the auction; we also find some job"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of the business?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, if we don’t have food we sell the cow"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of cow that remains at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those with little calf and have a lot of milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When this process of moving the cattle started?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.39148903619, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, if we don’t have food we sell the cow"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of cow that remains at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those with little calf and have a lot of milk"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When this process of moving the cattle started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is a process of long time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How this have affected the community"}]} 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"content": "Is a process of long time"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How this have affected the community"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have good health in dry season while in rainy seasons we become healthier"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who are mostly affected"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is women and children because they are the ones who remains home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get milk"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.90876411, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We don’t have good health in dry season while in rainy seasons we become healthier"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who are mostly affected"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is women and children because they are the ones who remains home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get milk"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat stiff porridge with vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you used to cook when there are ceremonies"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0097379, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is women and children because they are the ones who remains home"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where do you get milk"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat stiff porridge with vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you used to cook when there are ceremonies"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the burial ceremonies Wamasai we used to slaughter the old cow, but now we usually cook meat, rice and beans"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In other celebration?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.121931, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We eat stiff porridge with vegetables."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you used to cook when there are ceremonies"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the burial ceremonies Wamasai we used to slaughter the old cow, but now we usually cook meat, rice and beans"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In other celebration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to cook stiff porridge and meat in celebration, but currently we usually buy meat, vegetable, sweet potatoes and rice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the Wagogo?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.24659, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the burial ceremonies Wamasai we used to slaughter the old cow, but now we usually cook meat, rice and beans"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In other celebration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to cook stiff porridge and meat in celebration, but currently we usually buy meat, vegetable, sweet potatoes and rice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the Wagogo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to cook vegetable, rice and stiff porridge but now we cook rice..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are these foods important now in celebration?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3851, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to cook stiff porridge and meat in celebration, but currently we usually buy meat, vegetable, sweet potatoes and rice"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the Wagogo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to cook vegetable, rice and stiff porridge but now we cook rice..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are these foods important now in celebration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are interaction with other people and also we are educated now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you elaborate on that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.539, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to cook vegetable, rice and stiff porridge but now we cook rice..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why are these foods important now in celebration?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are interaction with other people and also we are educated now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you elaborate on that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because there are visitors/guest that’s why we cook those food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is this cooked while there is a celebration only or?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.71, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are interaction with other people and also we are educated now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you elaborate on that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because there are visitors/guest that’s why we cook those food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is this cooked while there is a celebration only or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because there is a scarcity of milk and interaction, you cannot cook stiff porridge for them, they will leave you (Laugher)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the process used to cook meat in the past are the same to now days when you compare?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because there are visitors/guest that’s why we cook those food"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is this cooked while there is a celebration only or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because there is a scarcity of milk and interaction, you cannot cook stiff porridge for them, they will leave you (Laugher)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the process used to cook meat in the past are the same to now days when you compare?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to dry them and later on you cook and it becomes very delicious. We didn’t use salt in the past, but now days the meat is mixed with salt some see as good and others not"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It seems there are certain foods that are supposed to be eaten only during the celebration like rice and potatoes?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is because there is a scarcity of milk and interaction, you cannot cook stiff porridge for them, they will leave you (Laugher)"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are the process used to cook meat in the past are the same to now days when you compare?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to dry them and later on you cook and it becomes very delicious. We didn’t use salt in the past, but now days the meat is mixed with salt some see as good and others not"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It seems there are certain foods that are supposed to be eaten only during the celebration like rice and potatoes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We usually eat, if some one is well off can eat rice even for three days a week,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about meat"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to dry them and later on you cook and it becomes very delicious. We didn’t use salt in the past, but now days the meat is mixed with salt some see as good and others not"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It seems there are certain foods that are supposed to be eaten only during the celebration like rice and potatoes?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We usually eat, if some one is well off can eat rice even for three days a week,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about meat"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to buy goats but now Masai like money than before. They eat rice because they have money, normally we eat meat during auction day, we usually used to slaughter goats even two three etc"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do divide the meat after slaughtering?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We usually eat, if some one is well off can eat rice even for three days a week,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about meat"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to buy goats but now Masai like money than before. They eat rice because they have money, normally we eat meat during auction day, we usually used to slaughter goats even two three etc"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do divide the meat after slaughtering?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The women eat intestine and some parts of legs together with girls. Men eat with boys, the young one eats head."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do men also eat intestines?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the past we used to buy goats but now Masai like money than before. They eat rice because they have money, normally we eat meat during auction day, we usually used to slaughter goats even two three etc"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do divide the meat after slaughtering?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The women eat intestine and some parts of legs together with girls. Men eat with boys, the young one eats head."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do men also eat intestines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They eat goats intestines but not ship intestine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about wagogo?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The women eat intestine and some parts of legs together with girls. Men eat with boys, the young one eats head."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do men also eat intestines?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They eat goats intestines but not ship intestine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about wagogo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We divide in the middle equally but the parts of the chest, the heart, liver are for men. This is our natural tradition"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we still have that tradition"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They eat goats intestines but not ship intestine"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about wagogo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We divide in the middle equally but the parts of the chest, the heart, liver are for men. This is our natural tradition"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we still have that tradition"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we still have"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think these changes have an effect to women?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We divide in the middle equally but the parts of the chest, the heart, liver are for men. This is our natural tradition"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do we still have that tradition"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we still have"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think these changes have an effect to women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What food that are affecting the children?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we still have"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think these changes have an effect to women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What food that are affecting the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "None"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who decide what to eat in the house hold?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:227", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What food that are affecting the children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "None"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who decide what to eat in the house hold?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is us, it is women"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you choose that?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:231", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is us, it is women"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What made you choose that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "how I think"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is your decision; it is the desire what you wish. you can eat vegetables for body healthy or meat for protein"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another thing? what if you don’t have money to buy food that is contributing to your body blood?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:233", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "how I think"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is your decision; it is the desire what you wish. you can eat vegetables for body healthy or meat for protein"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another thing? what if you don’t have money to buy food that is contributing to your body blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I when you have money you go to buy, money determines"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why there was no development in the past?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:235", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is your decision; it is the desire what you wish. you can eat vegetables for body healthy or meat for protein"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another thing? what if you don’t have money to buy food that is contributing to your body blood?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I when you have money you go to buy, money determines"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why there was no development in the past?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is because we used to have plenty of food vegetables, we didn’t move from one place to the other, But we don’t have those food now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are reasons that you have mentioned that contribute to what kind of food you want to cook, these include the desire of somebody, the money and availability. Among of these issues what contribute more?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:239", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Is because we used to have plenty of food vegetables, we didn’t move from one place to the other, But we don’t have those food now"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are reasons that you have mentioned that contribute to what kind of food you want to cook, these include the desire of somebody, the money and availability. Among of these issues what contribute more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The money because you can buy it"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes even if you have money there are no shops no development. It is money then the availability"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now I would like to know where you get training or information about the food?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:243", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes even if you have money there are no shops no development. It is money then the availability"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now I would like to know where you get training or information about the food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the hospital if you are sick, at the clinic"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the church they teach nutrition example vegetables, fruits"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think these information’s are useful to you?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:245", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the hospital if you are sick, at the clinic"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mhh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the church they teach nutrition example vegetables, fruits"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think these information’s are useful to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are useful, they say eat vegetables fruits, they increase blood in the body"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what can we do for this information to reach many people in MELA village"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:249", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they are useful, they say eat vegetables fruits, they increase blood in the body"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "what can we do for this information to reach many people in MELA village"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Translator asking in local language"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Seminars, public meeting, education in the church, group education to all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you want to be taught?"}]} {"block_id": "drivers-of-food-choice-00012:251", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Translator asking in local language"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "mh"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Seminars, public meeting, education in the church, group education to all"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you want to be taught?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Through teaching us, face to face, so that others will write"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any opinion"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:1", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.101965668793882, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Managed to improve my results from the last term."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s good! Okay so why not we talk about that? Improve result is it just for English or other subjects?\n\nIs it for different subjects?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the subjects improved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great! What about English in particular since this is a-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "WA1 I was from a fail to ... then after studying for quite a long time, I managed to pass in WA2."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it-WA1 was compre, compo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:3", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.3355174097709797, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the subjects improved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great! What about English in particular since this is a-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "WA1 I was from a fail to ... then after studying for quite a long time, I managed to pass in WA2."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it-WA1 was compre, compo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "WA1 was compre. and WA2 was compo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, I used to teach English. My students would tell me “Cher, English cannot study one” So you said you studied, you worked hard. So what did you do?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:5", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.3727971219677553, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "WA1 I was from a fail to ... then after studying for quite a long time, I managed to pass in WA2."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it-WA1 was compre, compo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "WA1 was compre. and WA2 was compo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, I used to teach English. My students would tell me “Cher, English cannot study one” So you said you studied, you worked hard. So what did you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The teacher gave me samples of WA from the past years and then we get to find how to solve it and then write it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Solve it meaning- it was a long compo or situational?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:7", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.41421902440861696, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "WA1 was compre. and WA2 was compo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, I used to teach English. My students would tell me “Cher, English cannot study one” So you said you studied, you worked hard. So what did you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The teacher gave me samples of WA from the past years and then we get to find how to solve it and then write it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Solve it meaning- it was a long compo or situational?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Long compo and situational."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was a full paper, one and a half hours."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:9", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4602433604540188, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The teacher gave me samples of WA from the past years and then we get to find how to solve it and then write it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Solve it meaning- it was a long compo or situational?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Long compo and situational."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was a full paper, one and a half hours."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s quite intense. So that is what your teacher did. But she didn’t just give it to you, it was the whole class?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:11", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5113815116155764, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Long compo and situational."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was a full paper, one and a half hours."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s quite intense. So that is what your teacher did. But she didn’t just give it to you, it was the whole class?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you come back and looked at it? Do you practice on your own, you were saying work hard so-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:13", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5682016795728627, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s quite intense. So that is what your teacher did. But she didn’t just give it to you, it was the whole class?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you come back and looked at it? Do you practice on your own, you were saying work hard so-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I was at home practicing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so when you practiced, usually you need somebody to tell you whether you are off track or not? Did you run it through Scribo to check?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:15", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.631335199525403, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you come back and looked at it? Do you practice on your own, you were saying work hard so-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I was at home practicing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so when you practiced, usually you need somebody to tell you whether you are off track or not? Did you run it through Scribo to check?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scribo I did (?), I only come for the tuition and I see. Once I write, I check. I see what are the mistakes that I made."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What sort of mistakes? Content or grammar?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:17", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7014835550282255, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah I was at home practicing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so when you practiced, usually you need somebody to tell you whether you are off track or not? Did you run it through Scribo to check?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scribo I did (?), I only come for the tuition and I see. Once I write, I check. I see what are the mistakes that I made."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What sort of mistakes? Content or grammar?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mostly grammar and spelling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are now at the stage where you can look through and you can spot your own?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:19", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7794261722535838, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scribo I did (?), I only come for the tuition and I see. Once I write, I check. I see what are the mistakes that I made."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What sort of mistakes? Content or grammar?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mostly grammar and spelling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are now at the stage where you can look through and you can spot your own?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s great! Even without Scribo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:21", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8660290802817597, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mostly grammar and spelling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are now at the stage where you can look through and you can spot your own?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s great! Even without Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Nods heads]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I’m very curious. How come you all don’t use Scribo for your schoolwork or practice?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:23", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9622545336463997, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s great! Even without Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Nods heads]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I’m very curious. How come you all don’t use Scribo for your schoolwork or practice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can use it right, it is already on your laptop."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:25", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0691717040515551, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Nods heads]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I’m very curious. How come you all don’t use Scribo for your schoolwork or practice?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can use it right, it is already on your laptop."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah.. but then I do not know. They haven’t started using it so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you feel you cannot put in your own practice to check?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:27", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1879685600572834, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can use it right, it is already on your laptop."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah.. but then I do not know. They haven’t started using it so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you feel you cannot put in your own practice to check?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I scared later I did something wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay. Because that’s what I was feeling, “eh how come I ask everybody and then nobody uses it for their own practice. So like huh?” 浪费掉, I mean it’s there what, so...\n\nOkay so tell me some of the things that you are more confident of correcting even without Scribo, compared to previously. So what are some of the things you managed to catch?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:29", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.3199650667303149, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah.. but then I do not know. They haven’t started using it so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you feel you cannot put in your own practice to check?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I scared later I did something wrong."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh okay. Because that’s what I was feeling, “eh how come I ask everybody and then nobody uses it for their own practice. 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Along the way before WA2, did your teacher comment that “Jimmy, this year 不错 you have improved” or anything like that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.39501860090162333, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe my content? I correct it. And sentence structures."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what are the types of sentence structures now that you used to make, but now you are better with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I used to type or write with.. I write very long sentences without commas. So now, after Scribo, it helped me shorten my sentence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s great! Actually come to think of it, did your teachers comment- I mean it’s great that you from WA1 to WA2, you have improved. Along the way before WA2, did your teacher comment that “Jimmy, this year 不错 you have improved” or anything like that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’m assuming it is a she."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:35", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.43890955655735925, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I used to type or write with.. I write very long sentences without commas. So now, after Scribo, it helped me shorten my sentence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s great! Actually come to think of it, did your teachers comment- I mean it’s great that you from WA1 to WA2, you have improved. 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That gave you an indication that she noticed a change?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:43", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6689674692232268, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of them improved, only few of them failed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, you mean your marks is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but in her qualitative remarks, she didn’t say “ Oh Jimmy, you have improved!” or you saw more ticks or anything like that? That gave you an indication that she noticed a change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don’t think so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, no problem. Okay so we are comparing from- maybe we compare in general before we get down to Scribo. There are 3 main parts, I promise we will finish in about 25 minutes time. 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Eh no English write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "English write?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For your WA, was a written one?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:57", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3986447941084852, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Eh no English write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "English write?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For your WA, was a written one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you find that you don’t have much to say. 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Is it because you were planning a lot or you had to think a lot, or...?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7267219680351669, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you find that you don’t have much to say. Is that a content thing or a time thing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Time thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh time. Is it because you were planning a lot or you had to think a lot, or...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thinking of what to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thinking of what to write. 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Don’t have to think so hard."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:65", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.1317555160927983, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thinking of what to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thinking of what to write. Okay, is it faster if they allow you to type?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Typing... hmm.. I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So okay, for example over here, when they give you a- did you find that it flows better? Don’t have to think so hard."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is the same for written."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Same written as well as typing. Okay, so what did you do when you have nothing to write and you are sitting there. What do you do?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:67", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3686172401031094, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Typing... hmm.. I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So okay, for example over here, when they give you a- did you find that it flows better? Don’t have to think so hard."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is the same for written."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Same written as well as typing. Okay, so what did you do when you have nothing to write and you are sitting there. What do you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just keep thinking of what to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, then what about- you said that your teacher gave you help. So did you think about the examples that your teacher gave you or something?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:69", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.6317969334478994, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it is the same for written."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Same written as well as typing. Okay, so what did you do when you have nothing to write and you are sitting there. What do you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just keep thinking of what to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, then what about- you said that your teacher gave you help. So did you think about the examples that your teacher gave you or something?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I beg your pardon?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you’re sitting there like “she wants me to write this compo, then the previous time she showed me this compo or whatever.” Do you try and see if you can- I won’t say imitate, but you’ve learnt something from all those compos, the examples that she has given. To use it as a way to think of what to write?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:71", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.9242188149421104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just keep thinking of what to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, then what about- you said that your teacher gave you help. So did you think about the examples that your teacher gave you or something?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I beg your pardon?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you’re sitting there like “she wants me to write this compo, then the previous time she showed me this compo or whatever.” Do you try and see if you can- I won’t say imitate, but you’ve learnt something from all those compos, the examples that she has given. To use it as a way to think of what to write?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She teach us the format."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She taught you all format. So when you are stuck with knowing what to write, you used the format."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:73", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.2491320166023447, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I beg your pardon?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you’re sitting there like “she wants me to write this compo, then the previous time she showed me this compo or whatever.” Do you try and see if you can- I won’t say imitate, but you’ve learnt something from all those compos, the examples that she has given. To use it as a way to think of what to write?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She teach us the format."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She taught you all format. So when you are stuck with knowing what to write, you used the format."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you give me an example for format? Long compo or situational?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:75", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6101466851137163, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She teach us the format."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She taught you all format. So when you are stuck with knowing what to write, you used the format."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you give me an example for format? Long compo or situational?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a situational for WA, then we just write like sending to who, from who."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was a formal letter."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:77", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 4.011274094570796, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So can you give me an example for format? Long compo or situational?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a situational for WA, then we just write like sending to who, from who."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was a formal letter."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was a formal letter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you say format, it’s the layout. But each paragraph, what do you do when you can’t think of what to write?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:79", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.012526771745329185, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a situational for WA, then we just write like sending to who, from who."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was a formal letter."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was a formal letter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you say format, it’s the layout. But each paragraph, what do you do when you can’t think of what to write?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From what they gave us, so first paragraph is introduction and purpose of writing, and second one is how. One or two paragraph is about which activity or what you want to plan out. And then the third paragraph or the fourth paragraph would be the conclusion, followed by the ending and sign off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the examples that she gave was on a formal letter about an activity."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:81", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.013918635272587982, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was a formal letter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you say format, it’s the layout. But each paragraph, what do you do when you can’t think of what to write?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From what they gave us, so first paragraph is introduction and purpose of writing, and second one is how. One or two paragraph is about which activity or what you want to plan out. And then the third paragraph or the fourth paragraph would be the conclusion, followed by the ending and sign off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the examples that she gave was on a formal letter about an activity."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then the WA was also about a formal letter for an activity?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:83", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.015465150302875536, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From what they gave us, so first paragraph is introduction and purpose of writing, and second one is how. One or two paragraph is about which activity or what you want to plan out. And then the third paragraph or the fourth paragraph would be the conclusion, followed by the ending and sign off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the examples that she gave was on a formal letter about an activity."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then the WA was also about a formal letter for an activity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, I understand then. Okay, so that was last year, they didn’t deduct marks but this year they deduct marks if you didn’t write long enough."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:85", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.017183500336528372, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then the WA was also about a formal letter for an activity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, I understand then. Okay, so that was last year, they didn’t deduct marks but this year they deduct marks if you didn’t write long enough."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So have you had marks deducted because you didn’t write long enough?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:87", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.01909277815169819, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, I understand then. Okay, so that was last year, they didn’t deduct marks but this year they deduct marks if you didn’t write long enough."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So have you had marks deducted because you didn’t write long enough?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You still did?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:89", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.021214197946331323, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So have you had marks deducted because you didn’t write long enough?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You still did?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For WA... no I quickly just write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so with WA you managed to hit the word limit."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:91", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.023571331051479245, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You still did?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For WA... no I quickly just write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so with WA you managed to hit the word limit."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can. Can you also tell me this year, I hear the teacher really did a lot of preparation before. I mean she teaches you the format, she gave you a lot of stuff before you start writing. What happens after you have written, submitted, she marked and returned to you? What happens after that?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:93", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.026190367834976937, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "For WA... no I quickly just write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so with WA you managed to hit the word limit."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can. Can you also tell me this year, I hear the teacher really did a lot of preparation before. I mean she teaches you the format, she gave you a lot of stuff before you start writing. What happens after you have written, submitted, she marked and returned to you? What happens after that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He didn’t mark, he asked us to do a peer review."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, we are not talking about Mr ... here right, we’re talking about your school?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:95", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.02910040870552993, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay can. Can you also tell me this year, I hear the teacher really did a lot of preparation before. I mean she teaches you the format, she gave you a lot of stuff before you start writing. What happens after you have written, submitted, she marked and returned to you? What happens after that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He didn’t mark, he asked us to do a peer review."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, we are not talking about Mr ... here right, we’re talking about your school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh my school, my school, after they give us back. We look through and then we do another draft."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You all the entire- the whole essay, everything?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:97", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.03233378745058881, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He didn’t mark, he asked us to do a peer review."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, we are not talking about Mr ... here right, we’re talking about your school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh my school, my school, after they give us back. We look through and then we do another draft."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You all the entire- the whole essay, everything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good, bad, also must re-write?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:99", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.035926430500654236, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh my school, my school, after they give us back. We look through and then we do another draft."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You all the entire- the whole essay, everything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good, bad, also must re-write?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "-12:48 So there’s a level of correction that has to be done."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:101", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.03991825611183804, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good, bad, also must re-write?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "-12:48 So there’s a level of correction that has to be done."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Nods]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, alright that’s with school. Mr what?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:103", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.044353617902042265, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "-12:48 So there’s a level of correction that has to be done."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Nods]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, alright that’s with school. Mr what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Y."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I always call him Y, I don’t know Mr whatever. So with Y is that same or different? Okay so let’s run through, before asking you all to write, did he give you all format, give you all examples?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:105", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.049281797668935846, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Nods]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, alright that’s with school. Mr what?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Y."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I always call him Y, I don’t know Mr whatever. So with Y is that same or different? Okay so let’s run through, before asking you all to write, did he give you all format, give you all examples?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then after you write, obviously now you can get Scribo to check for you."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:107", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.05475755296548427, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Y."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I always call him Y, I don’t know Mr whatever. So with Y is that same or different? Okay so let’s run through, before asking you all to write, did he give you all format, give you all examples?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then after you write, obviously now you can get Scribo to check for you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[nods]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you on your own check through, this Scribo has given you format, do you still look through for the content part and stuff?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:109", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.060841725517204744, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then after you write, obviously now you can get Scribo to check for you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[nods]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you on your own check through, this Scribo has given you format, do you still look through for the content part and stuff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Content? I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, then you submit it to him, Mr Y, and then you have to re- draft?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:111", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0676019172413386, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[nods]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But do you on your own check through, this Scribo has given you format, do you still look through for the content part and stuff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Content? I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, then you submit it to him, Mr Y, and then you have to re- draft?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Submit to Mr Y, he will do a peer review, so he will give questions then how do we make it better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you like peer review?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:113", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0751132413792651, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Content? I do not know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, then you submit it to him, Mr Y, and then you have to re- draft?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Submit to Mr Y, he will do a peer review, so he will give questions then how do we make it better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you like peer review?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This one.. I don’t know cause some people will judge about their compre and compo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some people will judge, meaning they say?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:115", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.08345915708807233, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Submit to Mr Y, he will do a peer review, so he will give questions then how do we make it better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you like peer review?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "This one.. I don’t know cause some people will judge about their compre and compo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some people will judge, meaning they say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will make fun of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh dear, okay. So you- what about you as you’re giving peer feedback? Do you find that that’s a helpful thing for yourself?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:117", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.09273239676452481, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This one.. I don’t know cause some people will judge about their compre and compo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some people will judge, meaning they say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will make fun of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh dear, okay. So you- what about you as you’re giving peer feedback? Do you find that that’s a helpful thing for yourself?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a bit hard to think of what to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even with what- I hear that there are questions prompts right?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:119", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.10303599640502757, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They will make fun of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh dear, okay. So you- what about you as you’re giving peer feedback? Do you find that that’s a helpful thing for yourself?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a bit hard to think of what to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even with what- I hear that there are questions prompts right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So even then that was a bit hard?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:121", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.11448444045003063, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s a bit hard to think of what to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even with what- I hear that there are questions prompts right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So even then that was a bit hard?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, cause I’m quite scared if I give like- I don’t know whether is it offensive to him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if it’s anonymous?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:123", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.12720493383336737, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So even then that was a bit hard?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, cause I’m quite scared if I give like- I don’t know whether is it offensive to him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if it’s anonymous?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Scribo is it anonymous? No?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:125", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.14133881537040818, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, cause I’m quite scared if I give like- I don’t know whether is it offensive to him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What if it’s anonymous?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Scribo is it anonymous? No?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We will just ask “Who is it, who is it?”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then just don’t say. But it can be anonymous right?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:127", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.15704312818934243, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Scribo is it anonymous? No?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We will just ask “Who is it, who is it?”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then just don’t say. But it can be anonymous right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in school do you do peer review?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:129", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.17449236465482493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We will just ask “Who is it, who is it?”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then just don’t say. But it can be anonymous right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in school do you do peer review?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Peer review..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So does your teacher do the same thing? Okay, “you all look at each other’s work, give each other feedback.”"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:131", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.1938804051720277, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in school do you do peer review?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Peer review..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So does your teacher do the same thing? Okay, “you all look at each other’s work, give each other feedback.”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was primary school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In all of Sec 3, you never? Two and a half years never?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:133", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2154226724133641, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Peer review..."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So does your teacher do the same thing? Okay, “you all look at each other’s work, give each other feedback.”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was primary school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In all of Sec 3, you never? Two and a half years never?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Never."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I’m trying to compare and understand a little bit better. Okay let’s now just focus on Scribo alone. Is your experience of Scribo this year better than last year? I mean, do you like using it better this year or not so much, or?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:135", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.23935852490373788, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was primary school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In all of Sec 3, you never? Two and a half years never?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Never."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I’m trying to compare and understand a little bit better. Okay let’s now just focus on Scribo alone. Is your experience of Scribo this year better than last year? I mean, do you like using it better this year or not so much, or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess it’s the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think last year obviously, “I do not know what to do with it” and it’s all completely online with Ms O. This year, there is face-to- face. So which one did you find- which kind of condition do you feel was easier to use Scribo? Completely online or face-to-face?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:137", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.26595391655970874, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Never."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I’m trying to compare and understand a little bit better. Okay let’s now just focus on Scribo alone. Is your experience of Scribo this year better than last year? I mean, do you like using it better this year or not so much, or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess it’s the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think last year obviously, “I do not know what to do with it” and it’s all completely online with Ms O. This year, there is face-to- face. So which one did you find- which kind of condition do you feel was easier to use Scribo? Completely online or face-to-face?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Face-to-face."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a reason why? I mean I can imagine why, but I need to hear it from you. JIIMY Because last year online, that day was a CCA day. So I have to rush back, eat dinner and then time to attend the lesson.\n\nI see, so tired lah?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:139", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.2955043517330097, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess it’s the same."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think last year obviously, “I do not know what to do with it” and it’s all completely online with Ms O. This year, there is face-to- face. So which one did you find- which kind of condition do you feel was easier to use Scribo? Completely online or face-to-face?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Face-to-face."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a reason why? I mean I can imagine why, but I need to hear it from you. JIIMY Because last year online, that day was a CCA day. So I have to rush back, eat dinner and then time to attend the lesson.\n\nI see, so tired lah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Harder to concentrate?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:141", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.328338168592233, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Face-to-face."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a reason why? I mean I can imagine why, but I need to hear it from you. JIIMY Because last year online, that day was a CCA day. So I have to rush back, eat dinner and then time to attend the lesson.\n\nI see, so tired lah?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Harder to concentrate?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was just trying to focus as hard as I can."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, sure, that’s being very responsible. But apart from the fact that it was your CCA, what is it about face-to-face makes it easier to be using Scribo as part of your English tuition?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:143", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.36482018732470334, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Harder to concentrate?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was just trying to focus as hard as I can."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, sure, that’s being very responsible. But apart from the fact that it was your CCA, what is it about face-to-face makes it easier to be using Scribo as part of your English tuition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Face-to-face I know I can make friends each other and talk to them. And then the teacher, I can talk to him more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so more direct?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:145", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.4053557636941148, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was just trying to focus as hard as I can."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure, sure, that’s being very responsible. But apart from the fact that it was your CCA, what is it about face-to-face makes it easier to be using Scribo as part of your English tuition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Face-to-face I know I can make friends each other and talk to them. And then the teacher, I can talk to him more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so more direct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As opposed to online, it’s a bit difficult even with the chat box and all that right? So more restrictive."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:147", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.45039529299346087, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Face-to-face I know I can make friends each other and talk to them. And then the teacher, I can talk to him more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so more direct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As opposed to online, it’s a bit difficult even with the chat box and all that right? So more restrictive."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, did you understand Scribo feedback better this year?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:149", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5004392144371788, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As opposed to online, it’s a bit difficult even with the chat box and all that right? So more restrictive."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, did you understand Scribo feedback better this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scribo feedback?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, so like last year, check like “what is it saying?”"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:151", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5560435715968652, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, did you understand Scribo feedback better this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scribo feedback?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, so like last year, check like “what is it saying?”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s better this year? In what way-what was it that was better this year?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:153", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6178261906631836, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Scribo feedback?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, so like last year, check like “what is it saying?”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s better this year? In what way-what was it that was better this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The words they give to correct our wrong words was more than what I saw last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so there was more variety to help you along."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:155", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6864735451813151, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s better this year? In what way-what was it that was better this year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The words they give to correct our wrong words was more than what I saw last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so there was more variety to help you along."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you see any or notice any changes in the way you were using Scribo? Let’s say for example, last time maybe didn’t use “check” so much but this year more. Last time maybe use “check” for every paragraph but this year use check for the whole-? I don’t know ... any difference in the way you were interacting with Scribo?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:157", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7627483835347946, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The words they give to correct our wrong words was more than what I saw last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so there was more variety to help you along."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you see any or notice any changes in the way you were using Scribo? Let’s say for example, last time maybe didn’t use “check” so much but this year more. Last time maybe use “check” for every paragraph but this year use check for the whole-? I don’t know ... any difference in the way you were interacting with Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Once I change my words after correcting it, my marks went up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that felt good right?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:159", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.8474982039275495, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you see any or notice any changes in the way you were using Scribo? Let’s say for example, last time maybe didn’t use “check” so much but this year more. Last time maybe use “check” for every paragraph but this year use check for the whole-? I don’t know ... any difference in the way you were interacting with Scribo?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Once I change my words after correcting it, my marks went up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that felt good right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So were you always trying to change so that you can see the marks go up?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:161", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9416646710306105, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Once I change my words after correcting it, my marks went up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that felt good right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So were you always trying to change so that you can see the marks go up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but last year once I change, the marks went down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So there’s a difference between the two. That means actually you understand what the system was trying to tell you."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:163", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.0462940789229005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So were you always trying to change so that you can see the marks go up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but last year once I change, the marks went down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So there’s a difference between the two. That means actually you understand what the system was trying to tell you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s a good thing. Okay, if we were to continue here on, let’s say the second half of the yea , would you want to continue with Scribo? Or it makes no difference, or must have Scribo from here on?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:165", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.1625489765810004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but last year once I change, the marks went down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So there’s a difference between the two. That means actually you understand what the system was trying to tell you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s a good thing. Okay, if we were to continue here on, let’s say the second half of the yea , would you want to continue with Scribo? Or it makes no difference, or must have Scribo from here on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I will continue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a reason?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:167", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2917210850900005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s a good thing. Okay, if we were to continue here on, let’s say the second half of the yea , would you want to continue with Scribo? Or it makes no difference, or must have Scribo from here on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I will continue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cause it’s quite fun to use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fun? In what way is it fun?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:169", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4352456501000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I will continue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there a reason?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cause it’s quite fun to use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fun? In what way is it fun?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I can-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you said you want to continue because it was fun. In what way is it fun? ...So in what way is using Scribo fun?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:171", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.5947173890000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cause it’s quite fun to use."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fun? In what way is it fun?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I can-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you said you want to continue because it was fun. In what way is it fun? ...So in what way is using Scribo fun?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I get to see my marks going higher."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah, okay so that’s that. Come to think of it, do you compete with your friends?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:173", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.7719082100000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like I can-"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay so you said you want to continue because it was fun. In what way is it fun? ...So in what way is using Scribo fun?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I get to see my marks going higher."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah, okay so that’s that. Come to think of it, do you compete with your friends?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In sports only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but in terms of Scribo scores? Do you kind of like “chey you only have-”"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:175", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.9687869000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I get to see my marks going higher."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah, okay so that’s that. Come to think of it, do you compete with your friends?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In sports only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but in terms of Scribo scores? Do you kind of like “chey you only have-”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you all do look at each other’s-"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:177", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.1875410000000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In sports only."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, but in terms of Scribo scores? Do you kind of like “chey you only have-”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you all do look at each other’s-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, can. What else in the lesson makes it fun also? I mean, either Ms O’s class or Mr Y’s class?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:179", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.31949, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay you all do look at each other’s-"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, can. What else in the lesson makes it fun also? I mean, either Ms O’s class or Mr Y’s class?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mr Y’s Kahoot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you like Kahoot. What was it about Kahoot? Don’t tell me it’s about the game, the competition again?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:181", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.4661, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, can. What else in the lesson makes it fun also? I mean, either Ms O’s class or Mr Y’s class?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mr Y’s Kahoot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you like Kahoot. What was it about Kahoot? Don’t tell me it’s about the game, the competition again?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah the competing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the Kahoot, anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:183", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.629, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mr Y’s Kahoot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you like Kahoot. What was it about Kahoot? Don’t tell me it’s about the game, the competition again?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah the competing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the Kahoot, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And the mistakes we made during the Kahoot quiz, we get to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Mr Y says that sometimes he takes out examples from essays and then shows you all. Maybe have a laugh over the mistakes and stuff like that. Are such things engaging for you?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:185", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah the competing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the Kahoot, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And the mistakes we made during the Kahoot quiz, we get to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Mr Y says that sometimes he takes out examples from essays and then shows you all. Maybe have a laugh over the mistakes and stuff like that. Are such things engaging for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, engaging."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else that made it such that you would want to continue this tuition?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:187", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And the mistakes we made during the Kahoot quiz, we get to understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Mr Y says that sometimes he takes out examples from essays and then shows you all. Maybe have a laugh over the mistakes and stuff like that. Are such things engaging for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, engaging."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else that made it such that you would want to continue this tuition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way he makes fun of ChatGPT."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so are you using ChatGPT on your own?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:189", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, engaging."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, anything else that made it such that you would want to continue this tuition?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way he makes fun of ChatGPT."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so are you using ChatGPT on your own?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, are there other things that you use on the internet or whatever it is to help you with your work? It doesn’t have to be English, it can be anything."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:191", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way he makes fun of ChatGPT."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so are you using ChatGPT on your own?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, are there other things that you use on the internet or whatever it is to help you with your work? It doesn’t have to be English, it can be anything."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Google."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you only make use of Google. So search information and stuff like that."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:193", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No I don’t."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, are there other things that you use on the internet or whatever it is to help you with your work? It doesn’t have to be English, it can be anything."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Google."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you only make use of Google. So search information and stuff like that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you use any other thing on the Internet to help you specifically with English?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:195", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Google."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you only make use of Google. So search information and stuff like that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you use any other thing on the Internet to help you specifically with English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe dictionary?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you check the dictionary."}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:197", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you use any other thing on the Internet to help you specifically with English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe dictionary?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you check the dictionary."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s great. This next part, just 5 more minutes. I’m very glad the first thing you were talking about is your marks have improved. So how do you feel about yourself in learning of English now? Are you more confident, less confident, same or?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:199", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe dictionary?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so you check the dictionary."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s great. This next part, just 5 more minutes. I’m very glad the first thing you were talking about is your marks have improved. So how do you feel about yourself in learning of English now? Are you more confident, less confident, same or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe more confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, out of a score of 10, so 3 out of 10 more confident, 5 out of 10 more confident, 10 out of 10 more confident?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:201", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, that’s great. This next part, just 5 more minutes. I’m very glad the first thing you were talking about is your marks have improved. So how do you feel about yourself in learning of English now? Are you more confident, less confident, same or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe more confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, out of a score of 10, so 3 out of 10 more confident, 5 out of 10 more confident, 10 out of 10 more confident?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think 7."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me why 7 out of 10 more confident?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:203", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe more confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, out of a score of 10, so 3 out of 10 more confident, 5 out of 10 more confident, 10 out of 10 more confident?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think 7."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me why 7 out of 10 more confident?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cause as I learn more about English, and I scored better marks than the last time, I start to get more confident as ...it’s just very confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So maybe you flip it the other way, you’re not so scared of English?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:205", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think 7."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so tell me why 7 out of 10 more confident?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cause as I learn more about English, and I scored better marks than the last time, I start to get more confident as ...it’s just very confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So maybe you flip it the other way, you’re not so scared of English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so confidence comes from knowing that you can do it, right? Is that a good way to describe confidence? Meaning that “okay lah, can lah”. So what are the things you think you can do for English this year that maybe last year you were not so...?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:207", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cause as I learn more about English, and I scored better marks than the last time, I start to get more confident as ...it’s just very confident."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So maybe you flip it the other way, you’re not so scared of English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so confidence comes from knowing that you can do it, right? Is that a good way to describe confidence? Meaning that “okay lah, can lah”. So what are the things you think you can do for English this year that maybe last year you were not so...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it’s Paper 1, I was more confident than Paper 2"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what does your teacher do and what does Mr Y do for comprehension?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:209", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so confidence comes from knowing that you can do it, right? Is that a good way to describe confidence? Meaning that “okay lah, can lah”. So what are the things you think you can do for English this year that maybe last year you were not so...?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it’s Paper 1, I was more confident than Paper 2"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what does your teacher do and what does Mr Y do for comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension... my school they don’t do preparation but here they do more preparation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in what sense?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:211", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it’s Paper 1, I was more confident than Paper 2"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what does your teacher do and what does Mr Y do for comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension... my school they don’t do preparation but here they do more preparation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in what sense?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, they will go through what we will do, and then what’s the topic to write while my school they give just what we do, then we just start to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s for composition right? What about comprehension?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:213", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension... my school they don’t do preparation but here they do more preparation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, in what sense?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, they will go through what we will do, and then what’s the topic to write while my school they give just what we do, then we just start to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s for composition right? What about comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension, my school will do more preparation comprehension than here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so how do they prepare you for comprehension?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:215", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, they will go through what we will do, and then what’s the topic to write while my school they give just what we do, then we just start to write."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s for composition right? What about comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension, my school will do more preparation comprehension than here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so how do they prepare you for comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they will find like words then after highlighting it, we will go to the passage and then we just highlight the words, and then we just write it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, the keywords in the question is it?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:217", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Comprehension, my school will do more preparation comprehension than here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so how do they prepare you for comprehension?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they will find like words then after highlighting it, we will go to the passage and then we just highlight the words, and then we just write it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, the keywords in the question is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then you find it, and then okay...Over here how is comprehension done?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:219", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they will find like words then after highlighting it, we will go to the passage and then we just highlight the words, and then we just write it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, the keywords in the question is it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then you find it, and then okay...Over here how is comprehension done?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Over here comprehension... I don’t think there was comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The fact that you have to think so hard that means- didn’t make an impact. Just to wrap up then. If you imagine I’m a Sec 2 student, okay not Sec 2. I’m wondering whether Sec 2 or Sec 3 but I guess that doesn’t matter. Not so good with English language right now and trying to look for help.\n\nAnd then if you think that CDAC, this tuition program along with the use of Scribo has been helpful to you, and you want to recommend it to him, what would you say? Imagine it’s your situational writing, formal letter kind of thing. So what would you say to him?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:221", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then you find it, and then okay...Over here how is comprehension done?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Over here comprehension... I don’t think there was comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The fact that you have to think so hard that means- didn’t make an impact. Just to wrap up then. If you imagine I’m a Sec 2 student, okay not Sec 2. I’m wondering whether Sec 2 or Sec 3 but I guess that doesn’t matter. Not so good with English language right now and trying to look for help.\n\nAnd then if you think that CDAC, this tuition program along with the use of Scribo has been helpful to you, and you want to recommend it to him, what would you say? Imagine it’s your situational writing, formal letter kind of thing. So what would you say to him?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say that Scribo has helped me a lot by writing- mentioning what are the mistakes that I make while writing, and how I can improve on it. Yeah, that’s all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I need to ask one thing, because somebody said that actually didn’t like Scribo telling him the mistakes all at once. He found it a bit overwhelming. You hit “check” and then- does that affect you as well?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:223", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Over here comprehension... I don’t think there was comprehension."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The fact that you have to think so hard that means- didn’t make an impact. Just to wrap up then. If you imagine I’m a Sec 2 student, okay not Sec 2. I’m wondering whether Sec 2 or Sec 3 but I guess that doesn’t matter. Not so good with English language right now and trying to look for help.\n\nAnd then if you think that CDAC, this tuition program along with the use of Scribo has been helpful to you, and you want to recommend it to him, what would you say? Imagine it’s your situational writing, formal letter kind of thing. So what would you say to him?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say that Scribo has helped me a lot by writing- mentioning what are the mistakes that I make while writing, and how I can improve on it. Yeah, that’s all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I need to ask one thing, because somebody said that actually didn’t like Scribo telling him the mistakes all at once. He found it a bit overwhelming. You hit “check” and then- does that affect you as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it finds all the mistake and you go one by one to- how does that compare with getting your teacher’s feedback? You know your teacher, and then you take a paper and you [word vomit]. Isn’t that same or different? How do you react when you get your teacher’s marking back?"}]} {"block_id": "ai-feedback-moving-beyond-00007:225", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say that Scribo has helped me a lot by writing- mentioning what are the mistakes that I make while writing, and how I can improve on it. Yeah, that’s all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay I need to ask one thing, because somebody said that actually didn’t like Scribo telling him the mistakes all at once. He found it a bit overwhelming. You hit “check” and then- does that affect you as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it finds all the mistake and you go one by one to- how does that compare with getting your teacher’s feedback? You know your teacher, and then you take a paper and you [word vomit]. Isn’t that same or different? How do you react when you get your teacher’s marking back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I will try to understand what she is saying. And then from then on, I will try to amend my mistakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So again going one by one, the way Scribo does."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00008:31", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.312484548184695, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Or a vendor at market that's just at market."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess to shift gears a little bit and talk about that. You do matching, too, right? Then, Produce Plus, of course. What are some of the experiences that you've witnessed with farmers around those programs, either benefits that they've gotten from the program—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Enthusiasm or pushback—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. I know it's not a one-size-fits-all, every single vendor has the same experience. They're all going to be a little different, but what were some of your experiences seeing that? Especially this past season with a new implementation of Produce Plus."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There have been some interactions where vendors and customers have expressed either confusion, whatever is a little less severe than disdain. No one’s been outright, I hate poor people and don’t want to do this, but people would be like, you're changing the business balance. A lot of coded shit like, you're changing the customer balance of our market or attracting the wrong customers and that kind of thing. That does happen a little bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What does the coded shit mean?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00008:33", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 22.569427275760773, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Enthusiasm or pushback—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. I know it's not a one-size-fits-all, every single vendor has the same experience. They're all going to be a little different, but what were some of your experiences seeing that? Especially this past season with a new implementation of Produce Plus."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There have been some interactions where vendors and customers have expressed either confusion, whatever is a little less severe than disdain. No one’s been outright, I hate poor people and don’t want to do this, but people would be like, you're changing the business balance. A lot of coded shit like, you're changing the customer balance of our market or attracting the wrong customers and that kind of thing. That does happen a little bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What does the coded shit mean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sorry. Kind of coded language. If someone’s talking about, changing the customer makeup or the clientele, it usually means they're bringing in lower-income people that people perceive can't buy stuff at farmer’s markets. One of our markets we have to have that dialogue with our farmers, but the way that we've turned them around to it is, there's millions of government subsidies out there, so why would you not want that being spent at your thing? No one is super outright and rude about or really ideologically opposed it. It's just new. This is their first exposure to working with our programs and such. That market and in that area, we have pretty basic access programming going on, and it still is looked to as a great example for the region just because it's a different-minded population. A lot of the vendors that we work with, in our market guidelines there's definitions and summaries of types of federal benefits and what they can be spent on and how all the programs work. All of that information is put out up front. With our express mission, it's not really a secret that's what we're doing at all. A lot of that is like, obviously, but it still is a part of the communication."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there ever confusion around that?"}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00008:51", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 19.265010209, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The line is just kind of there, really."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But who mans the line?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would be us. Managers. That would be us. We would have a small group of volunteers that were connected to us specifically for Produce Plus by other organizations. The managing organization, BC Greens, had The Brigade. I'm at Columbia Heights. I'm the manager. There's 10 vendors. There's me. There's another CFW staff person. There's two of our volunteers that are just, they volunteer at the market. Then, there's four Brigade volunteers. So, you put the Brigade volunteers on all the transaction stuff with Produce Plus, running the app, writing the checks, doing all of that. Experienced volunteers or staff can kind of corral the line depending on how large it is. We would hand out numbers for everybody and try and keep them all in line. You call people one by one to a couple different stalls or cash registers, the different things. It's a pretty hectic thing, honestly. Even when it's running well, it's a hectic and loud thing. What was really surprising was, there was a lot/too much self-policing with the line going on. If there's a line of 30 people, 28 would keep number and 27 and 29 in check, almost. People would call out other people trying to cut in line. There were tensions that arose among the different groups of people that were utilizing and receiving Produce Plus a little bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What does that mean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just trying to be super PC with that kind of thing. It was a lot of, from certain—man, I can't pleasantly say it. Is that fine?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Of course."}]} {"block_id": "relationship-building-around-farmers-00008:61", "domain": "academic_interviews", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.0841, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for academic interviews."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You would come in and break—I didn't really have to personally break anything up, but people would be yelling at each other. I'd just try to calm people down. Get their attention, ask what was the actual problem. A lot of the stuff was just really enforcement or misunderstanding of the rules or the number system or the line. If somebody was clearly trying to game the system a little, you could call them out and tell them, you have to follow these rules to be in this program. Just reiterating that was enough. Very few people would bicker with you or fight with you. They'd be like, yeah, okay. It's weird. I'm kind of good at doing this, but I can't tell you how."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's why I'm interviewing people, because everyone seems to have that experience."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. There was this time two years ago, there was a meat vendor that was selling frozen stuff by the pound. They would use the calculator on their scale, you can picture in your head, but the scale wasn’t the right kind of scale because it had the display on one side and not both sides and it wasn’t inspected. The D.C. regulatory consumer affairs came and did scale inspections, like, you have to stop selling with this scale. You have to get it inspected and bring it back. It was really dumb on the vendor’s side, because he was like, okay. Then, the inspector went to the next stall and then the vendor took the scale out again and starting using it, and the inspector came back and was like, dude, I'm going to fine you. I literally told you to not do that. He like, it's a $3,000 fine to not do that. I went and talked to the guy and then he left. I don’t really know exactly what I said. I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Really not helpful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The fact that you had the conversation is the helpful part."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.592457695264477, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you came into NASA, you were from Texas originally, so moving to Houston probably wasn't too big of a shock. And getting back into a warmer climate, as you mentioned, the other one was too cold. What was the atmosphere at NASA like when you came in? Things were gearing up for going to the Moon. You said you moved right into Apollo. Was everything flowing pretty well at that point?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I can't say it was flowing smoothly, because they had just moved from their offices downtown Houston. I understand they had offices scattered around pretty good waiting for the new center to be completed. When I got here in 1964 or thereabouts, they had finished most of the permanent buildings. I moved into Building 4, and it was still being straightened out and painted and put together. So there was some confusion because of the move from Houston into the new center and completing the new building. But everybody was getting their job done. I mean, it wasn't slowing down the space race in any way. They were still developing organizations, assigning members, and recruiting people, and that sort of thing.\\n\\n They had some really good people. I guess that was the most impressive thing for me. I've worked with mostly military in the previous jobs, and these people came from everywhere, all the managers. I'd heard they were the best talent in the world, and I certainly believe that's true. So I was very impressed with my co-workers and their ability to get things done. I learned a lot from them real quick. I thought I knew a lot when I stepped in, but I found out there's some talent out there that people can't even imagine. So everything got started very efficiently and quickly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's fortunate to be able to work with a group of people like that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not many can say that."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.324952994738307, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I can't say it was flowing smoothly, because they had just moved from their offices downtown Houston. I understand they had offices scattered around pretty good waiting for the new center to be completed. When I got here in 1964 or thereabouts, they had finished most of the permanent buildings. I moved into Building 4, and it was still being straightened out and painted and put together. So there was some confusion because of the move from Houston into the new center and completing the new building. But everybody was getting their job done. I mean, it wasn't slowing down the space race in any way. They were still developing organizations, assigning members, and recruiting people, and that sort of thing.\\n\\n They had some really good people. I guess that was the most impressive thing for me. I've worked with mostly military in the previous jobs, and these people came from everywhere, all the managers. I'd heard they were the best talent in the world, and I certainly believe that's true. So I was very impressed with my co-workers and their ability to get things done. I learned a lot from them real quick. I thought I knew a lot when I stepped in, but I found out there's some talent out there that people can't even imagine. So everything got started very efficiently and quickly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's fortunate to be able to work with a group of people like that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not many can say that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said the first things you involved with where the crew stations, the displays, the control panel. At what stage was the Apollo program when you came in? How many designs had already been done, and what areas specifically were you working on there? Or was it all still being done?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 17.070488907074306, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned working closely with the astronauts doing all of this, since they were the ones going to be using it. Were you also working closely with the contractors then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. That's an interesting thing about this place. Everybody works for NASA, but when you go in and start looking at the details, there are not very many civil servants, you know, pure NASA guys. The majority, vast majority, are support contractors. Without them, there would not have been a space program. Their contributions were—you can't even describe it.\\n\\n My interface at that time, back in the early Apollo days, was North American [Aviation, Inc.], which later became Rockwell [International Corporation], and they were the big contributors to the building of the vehicle and most of the design work on it. I guess our job, we did contribute to designs and ideas and testing, but we were probably the pushers, to make sure that they delivered on schedule, that they went through the right test procedures, that we were getting safe equipment and, of course, keep it within budget. So we found ourselves managing in that light more than the day-to-day hammering out metal and delivering a usable product.\\n\\n That was a good position to be in, you know, because you had access to all kind of the different ideas that were coming in, and you could help select the ones you thought were best and proceed with them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly an interesting role to fill."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You talked about the differences between the Apollo spacecraft and submarines, ships, and such like that, and the similarities with aircraft. Were you able to build on any of the work that had been done on the Mercury and Gemini capsules?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 19.84010976182013, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You talked about the differences between the Apollo spacecraft and submarines, ships, and such like that, and the similarities with aircraft. Were you able to build on any of the work that had been done on the Mercury and Gemini capsules?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Certainly. Those experiences and results were viewed very carefully in developing Apollo. We didn't want to put something in the command module that didn't work in the Gemini capsule so we stayed in close proximity to everything that was going on there. In fact, people in our section were on support teams that supported the astronauts in the Gemini flights, and those results were fed back to us…in real time so that we could benefit from them.\\n\\n I did not participate directly in the Gemini flights, other than to go to the debriefings and hear the pros and cons of their experiences, but absolutely, it was step functions right up through the Shuttle. We used everything that was learned in the past to do things in the future."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly very important to employ those lessons learned."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you involved at all with the trainers that were used for the simulations for the missions?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 22.024826866444602, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you involved at all with the trainers that were used for the simulations for the missions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. In our division, I guess at least a third of the division was devoted to crew training, and you learn an awful lot when the crews go and do the training exercises. You know, we'd put a mock-up out there or simulator—our job was primarily mock-ups—and the crew would go in and run through their procedures, and they would invariably find things, \"Hey, this isn't going to work. We need to do something different.\"\\n\\n We would immediately take those kind of comments and feed them into our design loop. The beauty of having the mock-ups in our division, we could very quickly put in new ideas, take crew comments and incorporate them into the mock-ups and training vehicles, and they would say, yes, this is going to do it, or, no, let's move it a little to the right or paint it green or what have you. So absolutely, the training program supported very closely the design efforts.\\n\\n The division again, the Flight Crew Support Division, was under [Donald K.] \"Deke\" Slayton, and the astronaut corps was under Deke Slayton, so we had it all in the same directorate, which made it convenient and efficient, I think. I don't think any design was ever even presented to a change board for approval or consideration without it first going through an astronaut loop of some kind to make sure it was something they felt was reasonable. They didn't always agree with it, but it was good business to have them in the early stages of it. They're a pretty sharp bunch."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. Well, they certainly were picked as some of the prime candidates from their area of expertise as aviators."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Shortly after you had come to NASA a few years, you had been working on Apollo for a while, and the Apollo 1 fire happened, which was a great tragedy for everyone at NASA. There was a period of recovery there and some redesign. Can you discuss anything that you were involved with in that redesign process?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 18.612408275696836, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It took about eighteen months, I think, to get back."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I think that's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With coming back on line with flight status with Apollo 7, that must have been a rewarding time, to see everything go so well with that mission, from a technical standpoint especially, and there were no major problems at all with the spacecraft during that time. Was that a morale-builder for the center?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, absolutely. I think people had been working—you know, it was nothing to come out and see guys out here that'd been on the job for twelve, thirteen, fifteen hours. You didn't think anything of it. You're trying to meet schedules. I guess what I'm saying is everybody worked real, real hard. I think that Apollo 7 thing kind of stirred folks up, so they wanted to do real good to make up for that.\\n\\n I remember—I guess [Frank] Borman's flight [Apollo 8] around the Christmas time frame where he circled the Moon was a real shot in the arm, \"Hey, it's going to work.\" And when [R. Walter] Cunningham and his troops, Wally [Walter M.] Schirra [Jr.] and [Donn F.] Eisele, I believe, became the first manned Apollo flight, when that was successful, you had to feel real good about that.\\n\\n You've got to remember, during this time we were really in competition with another country, and although we tried not to pay any attention to that, it was a factor. We wanted to be the first ones up there. That goes back again, I think without the leadership and management that we had at that time we would never have been as successful. It would have eventually happened, but we had some folks that were willing to step up and say, \"Hey, we're ready. Let's do it.\" And we did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly did. Certainly did. The missions did go very well, leading up to the landing and even beyond.\\n\\n What were your duties during the mission times, when they were actually up flying? Were you providing support in any way for the missions?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.809887895331734, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I guess my particular area, we supported from two different directions really. I was a subsystem manager for the crew station, and there were many subsystem managers across the center, you know, the ECS [Environmental Control System], the propulsion, electrical, communications, and so forth. Direct support during the mission came from the flight directors, which were the key folks, the ones you read about and you see on television. In the back rooms, and we called it the MER [Mission Evaluation Room], I believe, the subsystem managers and the design engineers congregated during a mission, and we were in direct contact not with the crew but with the flight directors. We monitored our systems, so to speak, throughout the mission, twenty-four hours a day, had shifts going.\\n\\n We were just next door to the flight directors, and anytime the crew had a question or the directors had a question, they would funnel it into the MER to the appropriate subsystem manager, and he, with his team, would resolve any problems, get answers back immediately. So we supported from that standpoint. I believe MER stood for Mission Evaluation Room. I'd have to check that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think that's right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But anyway, that was its purpose, backup support for the flight directors, and they really earned their pay over there. Those were hard working guys. I think that was headed up by Don [Donald D.] Arabian at that point in time. You have heard of him, a fine fellow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I sure have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other thing that our division did, we had the mock-ups and the trainers. When the crew would have problems with a procedure or difficulty in locating something or a device would not work, we could go out in our mock-up and trainer—they were fully staffed the whole time the mission was going on—and we could duplicate the problem and, in most cases, come up with a real quick solution. So having that facility available during the mission was a real asset. That was part of our operation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you think of any particular incidents from the early Apollo missions where you did contribute in this way, either by using the mock-ups or through the back room?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 20.89987543925748, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But anyway, that was its purpose, backup support for the flight directors, and they really earned their pay over there. Those were hard working guys. I think that was headed up by Don [Donald D.] Arabian at that point in time. You have heard of him, a fine fellow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I sure have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other thing that our division did, we had the mock-ups and the trainers. When the crew would have problems with a procedure or difficulty in locating something or a device would not work, we could go out in our mock-up and trainer—they were fully staffed the whole time the mission was going on—and we could duplicate the problem and, in most cases, come up with a real quick solution. So having that facility available during the mission was a real asset. That was part of our operation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you think of any particular incidents from the early Apollo missions where you did contribute in this way, either by using the mock-ups or through the back room?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can't remember the flight exactly, but there was one, they had a water leak. We had a water dispenser in the commend module for drinking water, and, of course, you had to reconstitute the food. They didn't have the frozen food deal that we've got on the Shuttle. And they couldn't stop the water leak. So I was asked to go out in the mock-up and duplicate that problem and come back with a fix. I was able to do that. I got more credit than I deserved for that, because a lot of people contributed, but that was one that comes to mind that saved them a lot of trouble up there that they appreciated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was certainly important. You've got a limited space in that capsule."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 24.101297971612517, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I agree. I think that was really a job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A very big challenge. Certainly an accomplishment and one to be proud of, though, with having done everything."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We definitely did go to the Moon."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just wish more people could have had the direct experience and contact with that program. I say it'll never happen [again], but that's not right; it will, probably not in my lifetime. That's the only disappointment, really, with NASA. I just feel like we ought to be going to Mars now instead of circling the shuttles. We're doing a lot of good with the [International] Space Station and I know it's preparation for the next program, but I'm impatient. I wish we could [have] turn[ed] the Shuttle over to contractors, another organization, and let NASA go to Mars. I think if that would have happened, I'd still be coming to work every day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly that is a good motivation for coming in."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 26.779219968458353, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We definitely did go to the Moon."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just wish more people could have had the direct experience and contact with that program. I say it'll never happen [again], but that's not right; it will, probably not in my lifetime. That's the only disappointment, really, with NASA. I just feel like we ought to be going to Mars now instead of circling the shuttles. We're doing a lot of good with the [International] Space Station and I know it's preparation for the next program, but I'm impatient. I wish we could [have] turn[ed] the Shuttle over to contractors, another organization, and let NASA go to Mars. I think if that would have happened, I'd still be coming to work every day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly that is a good motivation for coming in."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Going back to the repetition thing, you know, it reached the point where, in my opinion, we were doing the same thing over and over again. I never liked that. I always wanted to do something new and different. Plus I got too old, needed to step down and let somebody else play with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't think too old quite yet. You still seem to be doing pretty well here.\\n\\n Well, looking at things being new and different, Apollo 13 was very much that way. Everything needed to be done differently than had been. Can you describe some of your involvement with that? Obviously they were needing new procedures, new ways to do things."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 36.395701826639765, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Always teamwork. Always teamwork. I don't think any one guy could take full credit for anything in the space program, and that's what made it nice.\\n\\n Apollo 13 demonstrated that, hey, things could go wrong and you could work through them and get those guys back. Kind of a nice feeling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. And quite a success at bringing them back safely."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was, very successful. We learned things there, also."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any significant changes made that affected your area after Apollo 13?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing that I can recall. You know, that failure occurred in somebody else's subsystem. Nothing comes to mind right now of a significant nature that we did after that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, changes that were to come a little ways down the line, as they started during the longer duration Apollo missions, Apollo 15, 16, and 17, and stayed for longer times, taking the Rover with them, bringing back a lot more samples, taking more equipment with them, what sorts of changes did that inspire for your area with the command module systems?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.226411307787608, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Quite an accomplishment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely, and that certainly has played a critical role in the space station program, Hubble [Space Telescope] as well."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely. I understand it stays very busy over there now. It's a one-of-a-kind facility."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talking about the facility out there, as well as the original WET-F, your involvement with that actually was from the crew interface aspect as to how they would be doing different procedures and such with the equipment. Were you also involved in some of the setting up from the safety considerations? There was an incident at one point with the WET-F where there was problem. Were you involved with any of those details?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we had several small incidents with the WET-F. I can't think of one specifically where anybody was permanently damaged. There was a fatality in the original—not in the tank. I'm talking about the old oil storage, the very first one. We used battery packages to work lights and things in the tank, rather than putting extension cords over in there, and while they were charging one of the batteries outside the tank in preparation for a test, it exploded and it killed one of our support guys. But with the WET-F that you're mentioning, I don't know of any [fatalities]. There was some accidents and some problems, but I don't know of anything that was—is there something you had in mind?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think there was one where someone had had an incident where they had gone down and had to be rescued, a near drowning-type incident."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:87", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.625199145416799, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we had several small incidents with the WET-F. I can't think of one specifically where anybody was permanently damaged. There was a fatality in the original—not in the tank. I'm talking about the old oil storage, the very first one. We used battery packages to work lights and things in the tank, rather than putting extension cords over in there, and while they were charging one of the batteries outside the tank in preparation for a test, it exploded and it killed one of our support guys. But with the WET-F that you're mentioning, I don't know of any [fatalities]. There was some accidents and some problems, but I don't know of anything that was—is there something you had in mind?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think there was one where someone had had an incident where they had gone down and had to be rescued, a near drowning-type incident."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, and I think we may have had more than one of those. You know, anytime anybody's in the water, we have several support divers in the water with them, and they're monitored continuously. There was a time or two that the support—they were glad the support divers were there, and they brought them up, but we didn't lose anybody. By the way, you mentioned that, the new facility, have you seen it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's something else, you know, with video monitoring of everything that goes on, and the safety aspect of it is—I won't say it's perfect, but it is really up to date."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You always have that opportunity to learn from any small incidents that would occur."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:89", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 14.02799905046311, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, and I think we may have had more than one of those. You know, anytime anybody's in the water, we have several support divers in the water with them, and they're monitored continuously. There was a time or two that the support—they were glad the support divers were there, and they brought them up, but we didn't lose anybody. By the way, you mentioned that, the new facility, have you seen it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's something else, you know, with video monitoring of everything that goes on, and the safety aspect of it is—I won't say it's perfect, but it is really up to date."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You always have that opportunity to learn from any small incidents that would occur."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's certainly a big part of training for the space program, using the facilities."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.253332278292344, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's something else, you know, with video monitoring of everything that goes on, and the safety aspect of it is—I won't say it's perfect, but it is really up to date."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You always have that opportunity to learn from any small incidents that would occur."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's certainly a big part of training for the space program, using the facilities."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is. It's the only way you can really realistically simulate zero G. You can go up in the \"vomit comet\" [KC-135 aircraft], if you will, and duplicate it for a few seconds, but you can't do any long term procedural work and hardware evaluation in that airplane. But you do a pretty good job of it in the water tank. You can go through all the maneuvers and procedures. You're not pressed for time. Although I've never had a spacesuit on, I've heard astronauts say that they've learned a lot about wearing that kind of an enclosure just by going through procedures in the water tank. So it probably helps a little bit there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you involved with designing the different systems to be used in the tank? Obviously, things would have to be done slightly different so that they could be used underwater versus what they would have in the mock-up or simulators."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:93", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.503702531435938, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's certainly a big part of training for the space program, using the facilities."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is. It's the only way you can really realistically simulate zero G. You can go up in the \"vomit comet\" [KC-135 aircraft], if you will, and duplicate it for a few seconds, but you can't do any long term procedural work and hardware evaluation in that airplane. But you do a pretty good job of it in the water tank. You can go through all the maneuvers and procedures. You're not pressed for time. Although I've never had a spacesuit on, I've heard astronauts say that they've learned a lot about wearing that kind of an enclosure just by going through procedures in the water tank. So it probably helps a little bit there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you involved with designing the different systems to be used in the tank? Obviously, things would have to be done slightly different so that they could be used underwater versus what they would have in the mock-up or simulators."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really. My division was responsible to put that stuff in place, but I've got to give credit to the support contractors. They did most of the development work. Our NASA folks would come up with some basic requirements and maybe some concepts, and then the contractors would go off and come up with a way to accomplish that.\\n\\n Johnson Engineering was a major factor in our water facility. They did all the support work. They supplied the divers and came up with some pretty good ideas on how to make it better. So I think they should get a lot of credit for our success in that world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A couple of times in the Apollo program, dealing with the water facilities, the interaction between the NASA civil servants and the contractors, obviously having to work very closely together throughout this time frame, but were there ever challenges because of the difference between the civil servents and the contractors?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:105", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.286343228008258, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess aside from the initial problem with the launch and the difficulties in getting the station back to an operational standpoint, from your perspective, with the storage, with the transportation of materials back and forth, what would you have considered the biggest challenge in all of that for Skylab?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can't think of any real show-stoppers. We had a continuous strings of questions. You know, it was a new vehicle, a new setup. How do you do this? Where is this? It was a big volume compared to the command module and had a lot of stuff in it. So we stayed busy helping them locate things. But I can't recall any really major issues that we were involved in from our part of the world.\\n\\n Is there anything that you were aware of that—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, nothing in particular. I thought I'd see if anything stood out for you. So you were involved, then, again, with real time support, then, as—?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in the same way we did the command module. We had the MER room going."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After Skylab came Apollo-Soyuz [Test Project, ASTP], again a very different project, not so much in the spacecraft itself but in the involvement with the Soviets and getting that interface going, and I believe you were involved some with some of the considerations on the docking module, since that was a different setup than had been used before."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:107", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.207048031120287, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can't think of any real show-stoppers. We had a continuous strings of questions. You know, it was a new vehicle, a new setup. How do you do this? Where is this? It was a big volume compared to the command module and had a lot of stuff in it. So we stayed busy helping them locate things. But I can't recall any really major issues that we were involved in from our part of the world.\\n\\n Is there anything that you were aware of that—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, nothing in particular. I thought I'd see if anything stood out for you. So you were involved, then, again, with real time support, then, as—?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in the same way we did the command module. We had the MER room going."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After Skylab came Apollo-Soyuz [Test Project, ASTP], again a very different project, not so much in the spacecraft itself but in the involvement with the Soviets and getting that interface going, and I believe you were involved some with some of the considerations on the docking module, since that was a different setup than had been used before."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, again primarily from a mock-up and trainer standpoint and little bit different stowage arrangements, but nothing really significant that I can think of. Again, that was a change of pace. And what made it more fun than ever, I guess, was having some of the older astronauts involved in that one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Deke Slayton finally was getting his chance."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.23005336791143, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, in the same way we did the command module. We had the MER room going."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After Skylab came Apollo-Soyuz [Test Project, ASTP], again a very different project, not so much in the spacecraft itself but in the involvement with the Soviets and getting that interface going, and I believe you were involved some with some of the considerations on the docking module, since that was a different setup than had been used before."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, again primarily from a mock-up and trainer standpoint and little bit different stowage arrangements, but nothing really significant that I can think of. Again, that was a change of pace. And what made it more fun than ever, I guess, was having some of the older astronauts involved in that one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Deke Slayton finally was getting his chance."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He finally got up there. The bad news was that we lost him as a director, and he's one of the best managers and supervisors I ever worked under. Boy, I can't say enough good about him. Even though you were a \"peasant,\" he never believed that. He treated you like you were right up there with him, and if you did something good, he made sure you got recognition. If you did something bad, he made sure you knew about it so you would not do it again. I don't know of anybody that wasn't appreciative of the way he supported them. Anyway, having him on board to work with was a lot of fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was nice to see him get that chance."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:111", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.366725964346033, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, again primarily from a mock-up and trainer standpoint and little bit different stowage arrangements, but nothing really significant that I can think of. Again, that was a change of pace. And what made it more fun than ever, I guess, was having some of the older astronauts involved in that one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Deke Slayton finally was getting his chance."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He finally got up there. The bad news was that we lost him as a director, and he's one of the best managers and supervisors I ever worked under. Boy, I can't say enough good about him. Even though you were a \"peasant,\" he never believed that. He treated you like you were right up there with him, and if you did something good, he made sure you got recognition. If you did something bad, he made sure you knew about it so you would not do it again. I don't know of anybody that wasn't appreciative of the way he supported them. Anyway, having him on board to work with was a lot of fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was nice to see him get that chance."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And they did a good job. I think the program was very timely and helped relations with two countries that really didn't like each other very much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you surprised at all by the program? Here, you had been in competition with them for so long, and now doing this joint mission."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:115", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.798427116476583, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And they did a good job. I think the program was very timely and helped relations with two countries that really didn't like each other very much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you surprised at all by the program? Here, you had been in competition with them for so long, and now doing this joint mission."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, not really. I think that had to happen. You know, two countries like that just almost have to get together and get harmonious on a space venture. I think that might have happened a little sooner than most people would have expected, but I think in time it would have come about. We were glad to see it. The Russians, my experience with them in Space Station, they're not the most pleasant people in the world to work with because they do things differently.\\n\\n You know, they have a different attitude about schedules, and they conduct their meetings in a little bit different fashion, and I suspect they're sitting over there saying the same thing about us. We didn't always see eye to eye with each other, but boy, they're some sharp engineers, and it just took a while to get used to them. You know, they'd come over here, and we would extend our courtesies, and sometimes they were accepted and sometimes they weren't, but we managed to get the job done. Although I never went to Russia, the people that went over there regularly, after a while they didn't want to go back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Definitely different than—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's different. But they're pretty sharp folks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "While we're talking about that, and you've mentioned Space Station here and working with the Russians in that capacity, what were the differences or similarities between Space Station as you were working on it just a few years ago versus Skylab back in '74?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:131", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.91056820907818, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was kind of fun to deal with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's certainly quite a challenge."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then rigging up a gin pole with the crewman so that he was perfectly safe was somewhat of a challenge, a little bit different than anything we'd done before. Of course, all that's in one G instead of zero G, so you had all the weight factors to deal with. I'll think of the name of that [payload]. But anyway, it worked. They retrieved it. I can't even remember the astronaut that ended up going up and doing that job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know which mission you're referring to, but unfortunately I'm drawing a blank at the moment, too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But those are the sort of things that we dealt with, with respect to payloads."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly new challenges in that area."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:133", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.789520232309087, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then rigging up a gin pole with the crewman so that he was perfectly safe was somewhat of a challenge, a little bit different than anything we'd done before. Of course, all that's in one G instead of zero G, so you had all the weight factors to deal with. I'll think of the name of that [payload]. But anyway, it worked. They retrieved it. I can't even remember the astronaut that ended up going up and doing that job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know which mission you're referring to, but unfortunately I'm drawing a blank at the moment, too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But those are the sort of things that we dealt with, with respect to payloads."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly new challenges in that area."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was this the same mission—actually, I think it probably was different. Were you involved with the mission where they ended up having to have the three crew members go out to capture a payload basically with their hands? This was in the [19]90s, and unfortunately, I'm not remembering the one now either, but what you were saying earlier made me think of it."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:135", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 20.87724470256565, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But those are the sort of things that we dealt with, with respect to payloads."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly new challenges in that area."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was this the same mission—actually, I think it probably was different. Were you involved with the mission where they ended up having to have the three crew members go out to capture a payload basically with their hands? This was in the [19]90s, and unfortunately, I'm not remembering the one now either, but what you were saying earlier made me think of it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sure we were, to the extent I mentioned earlier, helping them with the training part of it. Unfortunately, in that time frame I pushed myself up to the division chief status and I didn't get down into the fun part of it so I can't remember details. I vaguely remember what you're talking about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, there certainly were a lot of different Shuttle missions doing a lot of different things."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:137", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 22.085827447295166, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was this the same mission—actually, I think it probably was different. Were you involved with the mission where they ended up having to have the three crew members go out to capture a payload basically with their hands? This was in the [19]90s, and unfortunately, I'm not remembering the one now either, but what you were saying earlier made me think of it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sure we were, to the extent I mentioned earlier, helping them with the training part of it. Unfortunately, in that time frame I pushed myself up to the division chief status and I didn't get down into the fun part of it so I can't remember details. I vaguely remember what you're talking about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, there certainly were a lot of different Shuttle missions doing a lot of different things."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. You know, we had the [Hubble Space] Telescope repair mission, which was a real interesting operation, from our standpoint anyway, different hardware, a whole lot of different interfaces. We got to develop new tools and came up with some really weird stuff. But the guys down in the section and the mock-up area had the pleasure of getting into the nitty-gritty of that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You've mentioned some of what you were doing at the higher level, dealing with budgets, making presentations, dealing with personnel concerns. Were there other areas that you were involved with now at this management level?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:165", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.57847, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe it's smoothed out a little bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think to some extent that's still a challenge, and it probably will be for a while."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But it really affected me. I lost some good people, the opportunity to get some good people, because of that. I don't know who dreamed all that up and put it into effect, but we had to live with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That certainly is a significant challenge, definitely."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And the other challenges that any manager faces, I guess, is getting the resources to do jobs that have been assigned to him, you know, dollars and people. But that's not a unique challenge. I think that comes with any job. At NASA we were fortunate to have congressmen and public opinion that supported us most of the time. You know, you usually felt like the country was behind you and the Congress was behind you and you could get reasonable appropriations without any trouble.\\n\\n It was not a challenge to get up and come to work every day. I'll say that. I never had a problem coming to work out here. It was always something I looked forward to. Come early and stay late, that was everybody's motto, I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It certainly did seem to work that way. And you are, again, fortunate that you were able to enjoy your job that much. A lot of people can't say that."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:167", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.1983, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But it really affected me. I lost some good people, the opportunity to get some good people, because of that. I don't know who dreamed all that up and put it into effect, but we had to live with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That certainly is a significant challenge, definitely."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And the other challenges that any manager faces, I guess, is getting the resources to do jobs that have been assigned to him, you know, dollars and people. But that's not a unique challenge. I think that comes with any job. At NASA we were fortunate to have congressmen and public opinion that supported us most of the time. You know, you usually felt like the country was behind you and the Congress was behind you and you could get reasonable appropriations without any trouble.\\n\\n It was not a challenge to get up and come to work every day. I'll say that. I never had a problem coming to work out here. It was always something I looked forward to. Come early and stay late, that was everybody's motto, I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It certainly did seem to work that way. And you are, again, fortunate that you were able to enjoy your job that much. A lot of people can't say that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's true. I am. I'm very lucky from that standpoint, having that opportunity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Most of us feel the same way about our job. We're pretty fortunate to be able to talk to folks like you."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:169", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.887, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And the other challenges that any manager faces, I guess, is getting the resources to do jobs that have been assigned to him, you know, dollars and people. But that's not a unique challenge. I think that comes with any job. At NASA we were fortunate to have congressmen and public opinion that supported us most of the time. You know, you usually felt like the country was behind you and the Congress was behind you and you could get reasonable appropriations without any trouble.\\n\\n It was not a challenge to get up and come to work every day. I'll say that. I never had a problem coming to work out here. It was always something I looked forward to. Come early and stay late, that was everybody's motto, I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It certainly did seem to work that way. And you are, again, fortunate that you were able to enjoy your job that much. A lot of people can't say that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's true. I am. I'm very lucky from that standpoint, having that opportunity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Most of us feel the same way about our job. We're pretty fortunate to be able to talk to folks like you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, that's good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, before we finish, I'd like to ask Sandra and Kirk if they have any questions that they'd like to follow up with.\n\nSir, I have a couple. You said that when you first got there you worked with a lot of the crews, the astronauts, on controls and displays. Out of curiosity, what was it like working with the astronauts. Was there some that were easy to work with, some that weren't? And what kind of situations, if you can remember, were changed because of astronaut input?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:184", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That's the whole point."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just for clarification, the John Young swizzle stick you were talking about, was that Apollo or Shuttle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was Apollo, in the command module. He may have had something similar to that in Gemini. I'm not sure. But I know it was in Apollo, and he might have used that in the Shuttle, too. I'd have to dig into that a little bit, but he was a swizzle stick guy. Have you been able to corner John and get him to come up?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not yet, unfortunately."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He would be a good one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He would be."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:186", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was Apollo, in the command module. He may have had something similar to that in Gemini. I'm not sure. But I know it was in Apollo, and he might have used that in the Shuttle, too. I'd have to dig into that a little bit, but he was a swizzle stick guy. Have you been able to corner John and get him to come up?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not yet, unfortunately."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He would be a good one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He would be."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He'd have you in tears."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Yes. We're hoping we get a chance to talk to him."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:188", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He would be a good one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He would be."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He'd have you in tears."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Yes. We're hoping we get a chance to talk to him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have nothing [unclear].\n\nOkay. Sandra?\\n\\n [Addressing Mr. Perner] Is there anything that you'd like to mention that we haven't touched on yet that you can think of?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:190", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He'd have you in tears."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Yes. We're hoping we get a chance to talk to him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have nothing [unclear].\n\nOkay. Sandra?\\n\\n [Addressing Mr. Perner] Is there anything that you'd like to mention that we haven't touched on yet that you can think of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Gosh, I've already said more than I thought I'd ever be able to pull out. I can't think of anything offhand. I appreciate the opportunity to dig back into the past and contribute to what you're doing. I hope it's successful, and I really do hope somebody will publish a book or something that we can pick up and read. I'd really like to hear what the other guys can remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, absolutely. Well, we certainly hope that we can, and we certainly appreciate you coming in and sharing your experiences with us."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00436:192", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have nothing [unclear].\n\nOkay. Sandra?\\n\\n [Addressing Mr. Perner] Is there anything that you'd like to mention that we haven't touched on yet that you can think of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Gosh, I've already said more than I thought I'd ever be able to pull out. I can't think of anything offhand. I appreciate the opportunity to dig back into the past and contribute to what you're doing. I hope it's successful, and I really do hope somebody will publish a book or something that we can pick up and read. I'd really like to hear what the other guys can remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, absolutely. Well, we certainly hope that we can, and we certainly appreciate you coming in and sharing your experiences with us."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You're very welcome."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's been very interesting."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:1", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.83592698294246, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thank you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And can you tell us why you joined the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had wanted to join Peace Corps as a kid as far back as I could, as soon as I'd heard about it as a kid, I suppose. And it took me until age 35 to actually do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's unusual for people to join at 35. What allowed you to do it at that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was, uh, it was a kind of a do or die. I was in a relationship with someone that had just ended. And that was about, I knew I didn't want to have kids and settle down. So I said, well, I'd better do it now. It took about a year for the forms to sit on my desk. Back then, everything was still paper. So but after that year, I got the forms out. I actually signed up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did your friends think?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:3", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.706585536602732, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had wanted to join Peace Corps as a kid as far back as I could, as soon as I'd heard about it as a kid, I suppose. And it took me until age 35 to actually do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's unusual for people to join at 35. What allowed you to do it at that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was, uh, it was a kind of a do or die. I was in a relationship with someone that had just ended. And that was about, I knew I didn't want to have kids and settle down. So I said, well, I'd better do it now. It took about a year for the forms to sit on my desk. Back then, everything was still paper. So but after that year, I got the forms out. I actually signed up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did your friends think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember one friend asking me, aren't you a little old for that? And he was right. He was. He didn't mean anything in insulting about it. But and I said, sure, but you are most welcome to join, especially when you have some professional experience. So and it just seemed perfect for me. It was perfect timing, at least for my life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great. And how about your parents?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.199705811526382, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My dad was still. My mother had died ten years before. And my dad made the requisite jokes about Africa, you know, just being kind of small minded about it. But at the same time, he's actually a very open-minded person and probably would have enjoyed doing the same thing himself."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But, yeah, he seemed pretty cool with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you end up with Ghana as an assignment?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.110784235029312, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But, yeah, he seemed pretty cool with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you end up with Ghana as an assignment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They had given me a choice of South Africa, Ghana, or I don't remember where else, but it came down to those two countries and Ghana sounded a little more peaceful and pastoral to me. So I said Ghana."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. And when you got accepted and found out you were going to Ghana, how long did it take before you actually started training, got going? How did you handle all your? Because at 35, usually you have more possessions and things like that."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.123093594477014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you end up with Ghana as an assignment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They had given me a choice of South Africa, Ghana, or I don't remember where else, but it came down to those two countries and Ghana sounded a little more peaceful and pastoral to me. So I said Ghana."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. And when you got accepted and found out you were going to Ghana, how long did it take before you actually started training, got going? How did you handle all your? Because at 35, usually you have more possessions and things like that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you handle all the prep period?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.651705890914972, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The prep was a little daunting. You know, it was bureaucratic. But the, uh, my life was pretty simple. I lived in a tiny apartment and I didn't have much stuff and it was my sister's building. So I was able to put what I had in the basement, which was great. I didn't have a car at the time, so it was a pretty simple existence, which was great. But the paperwork was almost complicated because if you have any health history, you have to really tell it like a long story. All the details. And if you've ever been to a therapist, you have to prove to them that you're not insane."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I remember, look, I had to go back to a therapist I had seen and asked her to sort of verify my sanity. And she thought it was the silliest thing that she had to actually, you know, that she had to sign off on something like that given the number of people who've been to therapy, you know. And so that was kind of funny. But it was fine. It was, I realized, I had worked for the government years before, and I realized it was just a bureaucratic process that I had to go through."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it was, it ended up being fine. And the funny thing is, is once you're in Peace Corps and you meet some people who would have benefited from therapy but did not get it, that's when it becomes really ironic and kind of. But anyway, that was the only, that was the only difficulty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you go for training?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.835228767683303, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I remember, look, I had to go back to a therapist I had seen and asked her to sort of verify my sanity. And she thought it was the silliest thing that she had to actually, you know, that she had to sign off on something like that given the number of people who've been to therapy, you know. And so that was kind of funny. But it was fine. It was, I realized, I had worked for the government years before, and I realized it was just a bureaucratic process that I had to go through."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it was, it ended up being fine. And the funny thing is, is once you're in Peace Corps and you meet some people who would have benefited from therapy but did not get it, that's when it becomes really ironic and kind of. But anyway, that was the only, that was the only difficulty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you go for training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We went to our host. We went to a village in our host country. So we lived with a family in a village in the western part of Ghana. We lived, I remember when I was preparing to go, I thought I should bring some gifts from America to my host family. And I thought, oh, refrigerator magnets might be nice, and wind chimes. And well, I got the wind chimes right. But there were no refrigerators because there was no electricity and at least in this village. And Ghana at the time in 2000 had been just about half electrified. So in the village where I was, there was no electricity so. They were appreciative, of course, but no refrigerator to put that on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How big was your training class?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.03914307520367, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it was, it ended up being fine. And the funny thing is, is once you're in Peace Corps and you meet some people who would have benefited from therapy but did not get it, that's when it becomes really ironic and kind of. But anyway, that was the only, that was the only difficulty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you go for training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We went to our host. We went to a village in our host country. So we lived with a family in a village in the western part of Ghana. We lived, I remember when I was preparing to go, I thought I should bring some gifts from America to my host family. And I thought, oh, refrigerator magnets might be nice, and wind chimes. And well, I got the wind chimes right. But there were no refrigerators because there was no electricity and at least in this village. And Ghana at the time in 2000 had been just about half electrified. So in the village where I was, there was no electricity so. They were appreciative, of course, but no refrigerator to put that on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How big was your training class?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were 45 people in training. And then we were placed in adjoining villages and I was in one of the really small villages, which was wonderful. And there were two other volunteers in my village, sort of walking distance. So we got to hang out on weekends, which during training is important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did they decide how to assign you?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.37682563911519, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We went to our host. We went to a village in our host country. So we lived with a family in a village in the western part of Ghana. We lived, I remember when I was preparing to go, I thought I should bring some gifts from America to my host family. And I thought, oh, refrigerator magnets might be nice, and wind chimes. And well, I got the wind chimes right. But there were no refrigerators because there was no electricity and at least in this village. And Ghana at the time in 2000 had been just about half electrified. So in the village where I was, there was no electricity so. They were appreciative, of course, but no refrigerator to put that on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How big was your training class?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were 45 people in training. And then we were placed in adjoining villages and I was in one of the really small villages, which was wonderful. And there were two other volunteers in my village, sort of walking distance. So we got to hang out on weekends, which during training is important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did they decide how to assign you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They, I had a background teaching teachers how to use computer software and build web pages. And they thought, OK, well you'll do that and you'll also teach math. And I said, you don't want me teaching math. I'm good with GUIs, I'm good with WYSIWYG, but I'm not good with math. So it was very funny that they had me teaching math, which I learned when I got there, and I panicked and I explained to them that that wouldn't work out and they were just like, fine, you'll still teach computer skills. And I was like, OK, we're good here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you teach the students directly or did you teach the teachers to teach the students?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.863139599016877, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were 45 people in training. And then we were placed in adjoining villages and I was in one of the really small villages, which was wonderful. And there were two other volunteers in my village, sort of walking distance. So we got to hang out on weekends, which during training is important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did they decide how to assign you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They, I had a background teaching teachers how to use computer software and build web pages. And they thought, OK, well you'll do that and you'll also teach math. And I said, you don't want me teaching math. I'm good with GUIs, I'm good with WYSIWYG, but I'm not good with math. So it was very funny that they had me teaching math, which I learned when I got there, and I panicked and I explained to them that that wouldn't work out and they were just like, fine, you'll still teach computer skills. And I was like, OK, we're good here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you teach the students directly or did you teach the teachers to teach the students?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I taught the students, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had your own classes and things like that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.514599554463196, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They, I had a background teaching teachers how to use computer software and build web pages. And they thought, OK, well you'll do that and you'll also teach math. And I said, you don't want me teaching math. I'm good with GUIs, I'm good with WYSIWYG, but I'm not good with math. So it was very funny that they had me teaching math, which I learned when I got there, and I panicked and I explained to them that that wouldn't work out and they were just like, fine, you'll still teach computer skills. And I was like, OK, we're good here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you teach the students directly or did you teach the teachers to teach the students?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I taught the students, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had your own classes and things like that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah. What was training like? What did you do?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 17.05506117834962, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah. What was training like? What did you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Training was thorough and rigorous and somewhat difficult, but really great. I mean, we learned everything. We had cultural training from host country nationals. We had language training. Excellent language training."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What language?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The local language, the country language was Twi, T-W-I. And even though most people spoke English, pretty much everybody who had been past maybe high school spoke English, but we were taught Twi and some other local languages. The town where I was, I was assigned in the capital city, Accra, where there were three languages, but they decided on Twi because that's pretty much the main country language. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you spend your days in training? Like you lived with a family in the village?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 14.505623531499579, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Training was thorough and rigorous and somewhat difficult, but really great. I mean, we learned everything. We had cultural training from host country nationals. We had language training. Excellent language training."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What language?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The local language, the country language was Twi, T-W-I. And even though most people spoke English, pretty much everybody who had been past maybe high school spoke English, but we were taught Twi and some other local languages. The town where I was, I was assigned in the capital city, Accra, where there were three languages, but they decided on Twi because that's pretty much the main country language. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you spend your days in training? Like you lived with a family in the village?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yeah, it was a compound house, which is what most houses are like in Ghana. It was a compound house is a group of small dwellings arranged in a circle with sort of a paved courtyard in the center and the well in the center. And so it's very much a family, very kind of intimate setting. And I had my own room and, um. The funny thing is, is that everyone had a radio and the radio played day and night, all night, and I had trouble sleeping. And so I had to ask them to at least turn it down at nighttime. And instead of turning it down, I don't know if it was a language barrier or what, but they would turn it off the minute I walked into the courtyard, and that was kind of embarrassing. And I wanted to say, guys, you really don't have to turn it off. Just down at sleep time. But it wasn't, it just was something you did. You left the radio on at night."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. What was your family like?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.459017189985705, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were. So my host mother was a trader and she ran a little store in the village. And once a week, she would take a four hour bus ride, four or five hour bus ride to Accra. She would get up at like 3:00 a.m., take the bus to Accra to trade for goods and bring them back to the village. And so they called her Auntie Makola. Makola meant store, store or market. And she was this really rather shy, intelligent woman who spoke no English and was constantly asking me questions through my host family sister. And the way she would ask questions, what she would say, be sa no. Be sa no. Ask her. Ask her this. Ask her that. Ask her this.\n\nSo she had this very, very intelligent curiosity. And that would lead to long talks at night over dinner where I was, where it was, it was great. You know, you were constantly being interviewed. And of course, every Peace Corps volunteer understands that you're constantly being studied and interviewed and observed. So but for her, it was more than that. And that made for some good conversations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there any especially hard times during training as you were adjusting to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there were. I mean, I went into Peace Corps. I weighed 108 pounds. And after training, I was 98 pounds."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And that was because I was just feeling a bit sick a lot of the time because the mefloquine didn't agree with me. Mefloquine is a malaria medication that you take weekly and they didn't really adjust the dose for size. So if I had been a little more observant, I probably would have cut my tablet in half. I didn't really need that much, but I went along with it because I wanted to follow the rules and."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do the right thing."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 12.975332222202614, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And do the right thing and get through training because it was rigorous and it was not easy. But when I did tell the Peace Corps nurse that it was giving me trouble sleeping, I was having trouble sleeping from the drug, she took me off it immediately. So they were very helpful in that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wouldn't make you do anything unhealthy. But at the same time I was weak and tired and all of that from not sleeping."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I got through it and yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you guys like socialize together on the weekends? Did you do anything special?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 9.846089163213103, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I got through it and yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you guys like socialize together on the weekends? Did you do anything special?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The two, so it's interesting. When you first get there, you're just so overwhelmed by everything that you don't even realize that you have some autonomy and you could go out for a walk at night or something like that. So after a couple of weeks I thought, wait a minute, I could go out for a walk at night if I want. So I went out for a walk and I found my other volunteer friends. And the funny thing was that one of them was very, I mean, they were both 22 at the time or 23, but one of them looked very young. She looked like a baby, and her family treated her that way. So they didn't want her out walking at night. But I assured them me being the advanced age of 35 could serve as some sort of escort chaperone. So she and the other volunteer and I would go for walks around the football field in the moonlight. It was just beautiful, you know, quiet because there was no electricity and you had moonlight that you don't see here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that was really helpful for us because we were, you know, you're a bit overwhelmed by the cultural change."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you got assigned to a school?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7929892499493865, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. And then I was assigned to my school. And the interesting thing about the school that I was assigned to was that it was an elite school in this, in the capital city, called Achimota. And this, it's a big school. It was a colonial school that had been established by the British. And then over the years, it had just evolved into an elite high school. And a few years previous Bill Clinton, president at the time, had visited Ghana and met with the president, Jerry Rawlings. And Jerry Rawlings said, you know, I was taught by a Peace Corps volunteer when I was a kid and I want a Peace Corps volunteer at my alma mater, which is Achimota High School. So he said, you will have one. And from that year forward, there was always a Peace Corps volunteer at that fancy high school, which was a really cool experience for me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, which probably needed it the least in the country but still."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, they did need it. They really did need."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A volunteer because the teachers there were as unpaid as the teachers out, almost as unpaid as the teachers out in the villages. Their pay, their weekly pay or monthly pay, was as tenuous as those who experienced in the villages."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you moved to Accra after training, did you have your own apartment? What was your living situation then?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.448134876480724, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A volunteer because the teachers there were as unpaid as the teachers out, almost as unpaid as the teachers out in the villages. Their pay, their weekly pay or monthly pay, was as tenuous as those who experienced in the villages."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when you moved to Accra after training, did you have your own apartment? What was your living situation then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I went from this little room in a quiet little village to a palatial house in a suburb of Accra. It had three big bedrooms. Pipe water in the kitchen."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Doors and screens on the windows and all that. So you can imagine me being in the capital, right outside the capital city, with three extra, two extra bedrooms, that I had other, I had visitors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Constantly, I imagine."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.72995181958947, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, at first, constantly. But that, it was interesting because it was a big city, relatively big city, and there was some crime. And at the time there was a rapist on the loose."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And it was very scary to be alone in this big house in a suburban sort of town, suburb of Accra. But they took good care of me and, you know, always checked on my safety and."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But still, it was just a little scary at first. But Peace Corps was extremely vigilant about safety, so they made sure I was okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you the oldest one in your group?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.033279799543855, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And it was very scary to be alone in this big house in a suburban sort of town, suburb of Accra. But they took good care of me and, you know, always checked on my safety and."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But still, it was just a little scary at first. But Peace Corps was extremely vigilant about safety, so they made sure I was okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you the oldest one in your group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was, yes. At 35. It was a young group, and the second eldest was maybe 29."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did you do like for cooking, for shopping, for just ordinary life things?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.370310888382061, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But still, it was just a little scary at first. But Peace Corps was extremely vigilant about safety, so they made sure I was okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you the oldest one in your group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was, yes. At 35. It was a young group, and the second eldest was maybe 29."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did you do like for cooking, for shopping, for just ordinary life things?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My kitchen had a propane stove, so I cooked indoors and had a gas tank. And so that was, uh, that was pretty state of the art. But there was a, there was a stand down the end of the road where I could get everything I needed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did you cook? Did you cook local food? Did you cook?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.62319737775317, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I would. I learned to, well, you learn to cook local food in training, so you develop a taste for that. And so I would just cook maybe. Well, I would actually make food from home because I had so much local food that I wanted something from home. So I would bake a lot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would bake things. But the funny thing is about the school where I was was that they would bring me dinner from the cafeteria every night."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A big dinner. And so someone would come to my door at night with this tray, with a cover, with a fancy cloth on top of it, and hand it to me. And I would bring it in and put it down and say, OK, I have dinner. And after a while it just felt a little odd. It just felt weird that I was treated so royally, you know, and there are people around you who didn't have enough to eat. So after a while, I started giving most of it, or at least half of it, to the guard who lived next door. Next door, the people, there was a doctor who lived next door to me, and she also had some chicken coops and she had a guard who watched over them. It was a pretty big chicken operation. So he was paid a guard's salary. I imagine that wasn't much. So he would get half of it pretty much every night. So I felt a little better about that.\n\nBut the food was fine. Very different from home. There wasn't the kind of roughage that you normally eat at home. So if I wanted to find raw vegetables, that was always a bit of a treasure hunt, at least in my neighborhood. But I could always go into the city, take the tro tro into the city or a taxi into the city and go to the big markets and get vegetables there, raw vegetables there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hmm. That's interesting that you didn't have many raw vegetables around."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.1368859752813005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would bake things. But the funny thing is about the school where I was was that they would bring me dinner from the cafeteria every night."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A big dinner. And so someone would come to my door at night with this tray, with a cover, with a fancy cloth on top of it, and hand it to me. And I would bring it in and put it down and say, OK, I have dinner. And after a while it just felt a little odd. It just felt weird that I was treated so royally, you know, and there are people around you who didn't have enough to eat. So after a while, I started giving most of it, or at least half of it, to the guard who lived next door. Next door, the people, there was a doctor who lived next door to me, and she also had some chicken coops and she had a guard who watched over them. It was a pretty big chicken operation. So he was paid a guard's salary. I imagine that wasn't much. So he would get half of it pretty much every night. So I felt a little better about that.\n\nBut the food was fine. Very different from home. There wasn't the kind of roughage that you normally eat at home. So if I wanted to find raw vegetables, that was always a bit of a treasure hunt, at least in my neighborhood. But I could always go into the city, take the tro tro into the city or a taxi into the city and go to the big markets and get vegetables there, raw vegetables there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hmm. That's interesting that you didn't have many raw vegetables around."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you eat mostly meat and starch?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:85", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.4401728055984915, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was mostly beans. I mean, there was the, there was fufu, which is the main starch. And fufu is pounded yams or pounded yams and plantains, which at first I didn't like and by the end of the two years I craved more than anything. So even if I were not fed by the cafeteria, I could walk just a short distance down the street to the local seller and get fufu. Or I could get beans and rice, something called waakye or red red, which was beans and fried plantain, and it was delicious. So there was plenty of all that. I gained all the, I gained more than my weight back and I gained it in fat instead of muscle because I wasn't running like I had been when I was at home. But eventually that all went back to normal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you ever scared?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was in the city, yes. In the villages? Well, OK, in the village. It was so dark that when I would walk home at night from, say, the other volunteers house or someone's house, it was so dark you really could not see in front of you. You needed a flashlight. And one night I was walking home in the village and I heard this incredible sound next to me. Maaa. And it's just a large goat, Billy goat. But I didn't even see it next to me. That's how dark it was. So I was startled, but not afraid."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But in the city, you have all of the city things to be afraid of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So tell me about your job."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:95", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.301804951139717, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I did. And she was a math teacher. So we quickly ended up not working together. And I ended up working with this teacher in the computer lab who had this little, little business. But it ended up being OK, I mean. Uh, I really ended up pretty much running it myself. And then I got another, I hired another teacher, a Ghanaian teacher, to help me and he was pretty savvy so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you could do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. I hired a couple of teachers, um, who had some computer background."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nice."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. So that helped a lot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Nice. Nice. Did you go on any trips? Did you have any adventures while you were over there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.076302408814465, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. So that helped a lot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Nice. Nice. Did you go on any trips? Did you have any adventures while you were over there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, lots. But when you have a demanding job, you kind of don't want to. When you have something that, OK, so the whole culture, a lot of the Peace Corps culture is exploration and traveling with your friends and doing these outreach programs around the country. But at first I was so overwhelmed that I felt that I had to really, really buckle down at my school and, you know, understand everything that was on me. But eventually I did get to travel some, but I traveled really on vacation and then we went to the surrounding countries just for pure travel, not to do any programs. But the fun thing about it was that there were all of these outreach programs like Guinea worm education, HIV education, outreach programs that were, you know, these sort of allowed junkets that you could do.\n\nAnd a lot of Peace Corps volunteers took advantage of that and said, hey, we're going on a bike trip around the country to educate kids about HIV. Well, it was as fun for us as it was, you know, as it was hopefully useful for the communities. But I didn't do a lot of that because it was a little too party for me. And the other volunteers were different. They were on average, 13 years younger than me. So that's when I really felt the age difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I didn't do much of that, but I did get to travel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they could bike around the country?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:101", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.529224898682739, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, lots. But when you have a demanding job, you kind of don't want to. When you have something that, OK, so the whole culture, a lot of the Peace Corps culture is exploration and traveling with your friends and doing these outreach programs around the country. But at first I was so overwhelmed that I felt that I had to really, really buckle down at my school and, you know, understand everything that was on me. But eventually I did get to travel some, but I traveled really on vacation and then we went to the surrounding countries just for pure travel, not to do any programs. But the fun thing about it was that there were all of these outreach programs like Guinea worm education, HIV education, outreach programs that were, you know, these sort of allowed junkets that you could do.\n\nAnd a lot of Peace Corps volunteers took advantage of that and said, hey, we're going on a bike trip around the country to educate kids about HIV. Well, it was as fun for us as it was, you know, as it was hopefully useful for the communities. But I didn't do a lot of that because it was a little too party for me. And the other volunteers were different. They were on average, 13 years younger than me. So that's when I really felt the age difference."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I didn't do much of that, but I did get to travel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they could bike around the country?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the programs was biking around the country. I think that was, not the whole country, but a section of the country, doing Guinea worm education. You know, how to keep your local water supplies clean so that you don't contract diseases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And would you do those in English or would you do those in Twi?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:103", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.032472109647488, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I didn't do much of that, but I did get to travel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they could bike around the country?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the programs was biking around the country. I think that was, not the whole country, but a section of the country, doing Guinea worm education. You know, how to keep your local water supplies clean so that you don't contract diseases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And would you do those in English or would you do those in Twi?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they would do them in English because it was in a school. And our schools, in our schools, we spoke English. Yeah, even in primary school, you were, you were started on English in primary school. So it was pretty easy for us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you taught high school level?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:105", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.591635677386098, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the programs was biking around the country. I think that was, not the whole country, but a section of the country, doing Guinea worm education. You know, how to keep your local water supplies clean so that you don't contract diseases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And would you do those in English or would you do those in Twi?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they would do them in English because it was in a school. And our schools, in our schools, we spoke English. Yeah, even in primary school, you were, you were started on English in primary school. So it was pretty easy for us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you taught high school level?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you use your Twi a lot when you got out of the?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 5.792142811587775, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you use your Twi a lot when you got out of the?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I use it in the market. I use it when I traveled. And then I continued Twi lessons after training just to stay with it, you know. So it was nice to be able to hire a retired woman from the town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had moved. The second year I had moved to a smaller town and that was because of crime in the city. And that's where I hired a local woman to tutor me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you still teach at the same school or did you?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:111", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1023809017641946, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I use it in the market. I use it when I traveled. And then I continued Twi lessons after training just to stay with it, you know. So it was nice to be able to hire a retired woman from the town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had moved. The second year I had moved to a smaller town and that was because of crime in the city. And that's where I hired a local woman to tutor me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you still teach at the same school or did you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. So then my second year, I was moved out completely because of the crime wave in Accra, and they sent me out to the western part. They gave me a choice of two schools and I ended up in Berekum, which is in the western part of Ghana, near Kumasi, the capital city. Kumasi, I think, is the colonial capital city and Accra is the capital city or something like that. But so I got to experience the big city and a small town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what were the differences for you?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:115", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8300998787212275, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. So then my second year, I was moved out completely because of the crime wave in Accra, and they sent me out to the western part. They gave me a choice of two schools and I ended up in Berekum, which is in the western part of Ghana, near Kumasi, the capital city. Kumasi, I think, is the colonial capital city and Accra is the capital city or something like that. But so I got to experience the big city and a small town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what were the differences for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the small town was much easier to navigate. But you don't have all the advantages of the big city. Like people are not as educated, so you can't have the same level of conversation. You know, less people have traveled, so your friendships are going to be colored by that. But at the same time, I taught at a, I was again at a school. This time it was a nurses training college. So the people around me, I felt that I could make friends with and have stimulating conversation with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So even though it was a smaller town and your interactions were much more basic, at least at my school, I had people that I could talk to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And did you still teach computers there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.728518368791638, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So even though it was a smaller town and your interactions were much more basic, at least at my school, I had people that I could talk to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. And did you still teach computers there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yeah. So my lab was much, my computer lab was much smaller. Everything was much easier to handle. My classes were 8 to 10 students."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nice."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Everything there was easier. Much, much easier. And the students were older. So they were in college and a lot of them were even older than college age. They had decided to become nurses. So I was very glad to get, to have that experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was your living situation there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:131", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.204032750186074, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So my friends from the farther villages would come and stay with me in Berekum, which was a pretty, you know, sort of big, big town compared to where they lived out in the bush. So the funny thing was, in the beginning, we all wanted to be out in the bush. Every, when I was stationed in the big city, people felt sorry for me and I felt sorry for myself because we all had these dreams of, you know, living that stereotypical Peace Corps experience of living in the bush."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So yeah, but I at least got to experience some of that in training."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The idyllic countryside thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was, what would you say was your biggest challenge in Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:141", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.917209013168848, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a challenge to stay cheerful when that happened. But then you learn to joke about it. And there was one time when I passed a group of men, this was back in the city in Accra. I passed a group of men just sitting around and they said something about the obroni girl who walked by them. And it was just one of those days where I was really tired of it. So I actually grabbed my butt and shook it. And they fell out laughing like it was the funniest thing they had ever seen. It was just the one time where this slight, this somewhat raunchy action got such a laugh. So it just proved that they were playing. And I was meant to play back, you know?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know how well that would have gone over. Well, it depends on the person, obviously, but that is one of the things that, you know, is considered culturally inappropriate. There's so much cultural inappropriateness that you can fall into and you're constantly aware of it and constantly trying to do the right thing and be culturally sensitive. But that day I was all done with that, but it ended up working out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever just blow it culturally?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, like one time a woman was calling to me and saying, ocosia, yeah, why are you not greeting me? And she was really mad that I was not greeting her. And I just, I was on my bicycle. I was always on my bike. And I just kept riding by because I was tired and I just didn't want to greet everybody. And that's the culture. You greet. It's rude not to greet, especially at an older person. You least, at least."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So whether you know them or not you greet them?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:143", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.796898903520942, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know how well that would have gone over. Well, it depends on the person, obviously, but that is one of the things that, you know, is considered culturally inappropriate. There's so much cultural inappropriateness that you can fall into and you're constantly aware of it and constantly trying to do the right thing and be culturally sensitive. But that day I was all done with that, but it ended up working out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever just blow it culturally?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, like one time a woman was calling to me and saying, ocosia, yeah, why are you not greeting me? And she was really mad that I was not greeting her. And I just, I was on my bicycle. I was always on my bike. And I just kept riding by because I was tired and I just didn't want to greet everybody. And that's the culture. You greet. It's rude not to greet, especially at an older person. You least, at least."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So whether you know them or not you greet them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, absolutely. And in training, you know, in our village, in training, the trainers, our host country national trainers, had told the people in the village help our volunteers practice their chi. You know, greet them on the road, make sure they greet you too. They took that to a very serious degree, and that was really hard at first. But it was beautiful to be able to fit in. Once you finished training, you got your autonomy back and you were, you could go about your day the way you wanted."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have any secondary projects that that you did?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:145", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.774332115023268, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, like one time a woman was calling to me and saying, ocosia, yeah, why are you not greeting me? And she was really mad that I was not greeting her. And I just, I was on my bicycle. I was always on my bike. And I just kept riding by because I was tired and I just didn't want to greet everybody. And that's the culture. You greet. It's rude not to greet, especially at an older person. You least, at least."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So whether you know them or not you greet them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, absolutely. And in training, you know, in our village, in training, the trainers, our host country national trainers, had told the people in the village help our volunteers practice their chi. You know, greet them on the road, make sure they greet you too. They took that to a very serious degree, and that was really hard at first. But it was beautiful to be able to fit in. Once you finished training, you got your autonomy back and you were, you could go about your day the way you wanted."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have any secondary projects that that you did?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, um, my, another volunteer and I started a girls club where we just talked, you know, met once a week and just chatted, which was really fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how old were the girls?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:147", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 10.86036901669252, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, absolutely. And in training, you know, in our village, in training, the trainers, our host country national trainers, had told the people in the village help our volunteers practice their chi. You know, greet them on the road, make sure they greet you too. They took that to a very serious degree, and that was really hard at first. But it was beautiful to be able to fit in. Once you finished training, you got your autonomy back and you were, you could go about your day the way you wanted."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have any secondary projects that that you did?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, um, my, another volunteer and I started a girls club where we just talked, you know, met once a week and just chatted, which was really fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how old were the girls?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were high school, early high school age."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This was in Accra?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:153", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 10.91957341110085, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This was in Berekum, the smaller town. And another thing was I started a scholarship program for girls. With Americans. So after a while, maybe after a year, I had a couple of visitors. And one thing that they were very struck by was the whole, was the, um, the social status of women and girls, which remains low today. And they, and I would. And it was also something that I was very interested in. It was difficult to see how girls were treated as second class. So it was important to me that my girls got computer education and were given all the, or at least told that they could do anything the boys could.\n\nBut after a while, I thought, let me formalize this into a program. So I wrote a letter home to people who had visited me previously and to everybody I knew, mostly women, and told them two stories about two girls that I had taught. And they were pretty moving stories. And I said, you want to help some girls in Ghana? Send some money and we'll pay their school fees to get them through high school, which is a feat in a lot of small villages."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that ended up working out pretty well. It was toward the end of my second year, so I didn't get to see the fruits of all of it, but I handed it down to another volunteer who stayed a little longer than me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that worked out beautifully. That was, that was something I was really happy to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you go home at all?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:155", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.466192679000945, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that ended up working out pretty well. It was toward the end of my second year, so I didn't get to see the fruits of all of it, but I handed it down to another volunteer who stayed a little longer than me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that worked out beautifully. That was, that was something I was really happy to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you go home at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did. My first year, at the end of my first year, for vacation I went home to the States. And it was a bit of a mind bend and I don't recommend it. It was just too strange, the cultural shift. So if I could do that again, I would say just travel around Ghana. And I did get to travel around West Africa in my second year vacation, which was a wonderful experience to see the other countries and how different they were. But going home to the United States after a year was not a good idea. Plus, it was so expensive to fly and I just blew so much money and it was such a weird experience that I thought, oh, I would not recommend this to other volunteers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have any health scares or any need for doctoring while you were in Ghana?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:157", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.073547421112161, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that worked out beautifully. That was, that was something I was really happy to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you go home at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did. My first year, at the end of my first year, for vacation I went home to the States. And it was a bit of a mind bend and I don't recommend it. It was just too strange, the cultural shift. So if I could do that again, I would say just travel around Ghana. And I did get to travel around West Africa in my second year vacation, which was a wonderful experience to see the other countries and how different they were. But going home to the United States after a year was not a good idea. Plus, it was so expensive to fly and I just blew so much money and it was such a weird experience that I thought, oh, I would not recommend this to other volunteers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have any health scares or any need for doctoring while you were in Ghana?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's funny, a lot of people got sick. Gastrointestinal distress. I had none, which was amazing. Once I got Giardia, which was relatively common, and got over it. Once I had malaria and I got over it. I mean, a lot of people get malaria. So it wasn't a big deal there. I mean, it was a big deal because we'd not been exposed to it before. So it was taken very seriously and I was sent to a hospital to recuperate. But I mean, it came and went like any, like any infection."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you never had a second episode?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:165", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.911366287322299, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And had learned only much later that it was a lactose intolerance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I didn't have any cheese or dairy in the first year of Ghana."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I didn't even know it. So it was very good that way, to take me completely out of my world. But as far as that goes, no, I really didn't have any illness. But it was, it was the psychological distress of the mefloquine and the insomnia that it produced. That was a little difficult in training, but they were great about it. They gave me Ambien to help me sleep, and they took me off the mefloquine when I said that it was serious. So it was fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. Good, good, good. How about friendships while you were over there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:169", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.532550972002838, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I didn't even know it. So it was very good that way, to take me completely out of my world. But as far as that goes, no, I really didn't have any illness. But it was, it was the psychological distress of the mefloquine and the insomnia that it produced. That was a little difficult in training, but they were great about it. They gave me Ambien to help me sleep, and they took me off the mefloquine when I said that it was serious. So it was fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. Good, good, good. How about friendships while you were over there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So culturally, you know, when someone is that culturally alien to you, there's a lot to get over to become friends. And I am I guess what you call a social introvert. I really like my time alone. So I spent a lot of time alone to write and did not go out much. And when I did go out, I was kind of really just wanted to see other Americans. Just wanted to hang out with other Americans. But later, oh, I developed a crush on the headmistress' son. So that was, that was good. Although he didn't feel the same about me. So that didn't go anywhere. But I thought, well, here's a good way to really connect culturally."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I never had, I did not have a Ghanaian boyfriend at all while I was there. But I think that would have been a really nice way to bridge the cultural gap. But as far as close friendships, the closest friendships I developed were with my students, and there was one in particular who was my buddy, and I helped her through a hard time and we were close. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you want to share any of the stories about what you discovered about the girls there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:171", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.369501080003154, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So culturally, you know, when someone is that culturally alien to you, there's a lot to get over to become friends. And I am I guess what you call a social introvert. I really like my time alone. So I spent a lot of time alone to write and did not go out much. And when I did go out, I was kind of really just wanted to see other Americans. Just wanted to hang out with other Americans. But later, oh, I developed a crush on the headmistress' son. So that was, that was good. Although he didn't feel the same about me. So that didn't go anywhere. But I thought, well, here's a good way to really connect culturally."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I never had, I did not have a Ghanaian boyfriend at all while I was there. But I think that would have been a really nice way to bridge the cultural gap. But as far as close friendships, the closest friendships I developed were with my students, and there was one in particular who was my buddy, and I helped her through a hard time and we were close. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you want to share any of the stories about what you discovered about the girls there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So the one student who I became close with, her name is Sakina. She was just a sweetheart and wanted to become a fashion designer. But her mother worked at the school, so therefore she was going to become a nurse because she got free education going to the school. So it was, it was nice to be friends with her. She reminded me what it was like at that age, you know, and it was nice to be a mentor. But what was the main? What was your question again?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just you had talked about stories that it inspired you to set up the scholarship or your friendship with some of your students. I just didn't know if you had any stories you wanted to share about any of that."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:175", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.098149481485377, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So the one student who I became close with, her name is Sakina. She was just a sweetheart and wanted to become a fashion designer. But her mother worked at the school, so therefore she was going to become a nurse because she got free education going to the school. So it was, it was nice to be friends with her. She reminded me what it was like at that age, you know, and it was nice to be a mentor. But what was the main? What was your question again?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just you had talked about stories that it inspired you to set up the scholarship or your friendship with some of your students. I just didn't know if you had any stories you wanted to share about any of that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, well, Sakina was one of those, one of those girls. Her mother was poor, you know, she was a single mom, and she had three kids and she worked at the school and she spent her free time selling toiletries to the other teachers. So she would bring a basket of things, soaps and things, and sell them just for extra money. But her kids would not have been able to go to school if she had not been working there. I had decided that I would help Sakina with her schooling once I left Ghana. And so I told her that. And the next day I met with her mom, sat down with her mom, who I was also friends with. And she took my hands and she cried. She said nobody ever cared. So it was like just right there, you know? That was worth it right there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then just being able to tell other people that story in that letter, I think they got it. I told it well enough that I think I got other people to cry too. And that helped, I'm sure. And just meeting, I didn't meet other girls who were, who, I didn't personally talk to other girls who had gone through that. But I knew enough about the whole situation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah, yeah."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:179", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.232283310475774, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then just being able to tell other people that story in that letter, I think they got it. I told it well enough that I think I got other people to cry too. And that helped, I'm sure. And just meeting, I didn't meet other girls who were, who, I didn't personally talk to other girls who had gone through that. But I knew enough about the whole situation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That it was just. It was, it was the norm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you keep in touch with her?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:181", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 11.369203678306414, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That it was just. It was, it was the norm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you keep in touch with her?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did, yeah, for a couple of years. But then we lost touch after a while. Well, I do have her phone number, and I've been meaning to call her, but it just hasn't happened in over the last 18 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, you said it was hard to come back for a vacation. What was it like when you were ending your service and coming back to the States?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:183", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.41022630922935, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you keep in touch with her?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did, yeah, for a couple of years. But then we lost touch after a while. Well, I do have her phone number, and I've been meaning to call her, but it just hasn't happened in over the last 18 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, you said it was hard to come back for a vacation. What was it like when you were ending your service and coming back to the States?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was the hardest part of all, coming home and reentry. The reentry was harder than anything because it was. It was American culture. It wasn't just a drastically different culture, you know? The excess and the level of wealth and the waste and the rampant, the sort of destructive capitalism that you see here was over was difficult to face. I remember going for a walk. I was staying with my brother when I'd come home and I went for a walk in his neighborhood and it was trash day and there were these bicycles put out in the trash. And I thought, wow, what people wouldn't do for these bicycles back in Ghana, you know?\n\nSo it was difficult. Reentry was difficult. Here I am, a 37 year old woman. All my friends are either married or, you know, far along in their professions with real estate and spouses and all that. So that was kind of weird."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was wondering what it was like for you to come back kind of mid-career?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:185", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 11.566918121365944, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did, yeah, for a couple of years. But then we lost touch after a while. Well, I do have her phone number, and I've been meaning to call her, but it just hasn't happened in over the last 18 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, you said it was hard to come back for a vacation. What was it like when you were ending your service and coming back to the States?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was the hardest part of all, coming home and reentry. The reentry was harder than anything because it was. It was American culture. It wasn't just a drastically different culture, you know? The excess and the level of wealth and the waste and the rampant, the sort of destructive capitalism that you see here was over was difficult to face. I remember going for a walk. I was staying with my brother when I'd come home and I went for a walk in his neighborhood and it was trash day and there were these bicycles put out in the trash. And I thought, wow, what people wouldn't do for these bicycles back in Ghana, you know?\n\nSo it was difficult. Reentry was difficult. Here I am, a 37 year old woman. All my friends are either married or, you know, far along in their professions with real estate and spouses and all that. So that was kind of weird."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was wondering what it was like for you to come back kind of mid-career?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Starting over again. Yeah."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:187", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.518797912628827, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was the hardest part of all, coming home and reentry. The reentry was harder than anything because it was. It was American culture. It wasn't just a drastically different culture, you know? The excess and the level of wealth and the waste and the rampant, the sort of destructive capitalism that you see here was over was difficult to face. I remember going for a walk. I was staying with my brother when I'd come home and I went for a walk in his neighborhood and it was trash day and there were these bicycles put out in the trash. And I thought, wow, what people wouldn't do for these bicycles back in Ghana, you know?\n\nSo it was difficult. Reentry was difficult. Here I am, a 37 year old woman. All my friends are either married or, you know, far along in their professions with real estate and spouses and all that. So that was kind of weird."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was wondering what it was like for you to come back kind of mid-career?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Starting over again. Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. But I luckily landed a job where, in a, at the Center for Language Study at Yale, where everyone was also had lived in other places and spoke other languages. And so I fit in there. That was pretty, that was pretty great. But getting used to America was really tough. I remember being afraid of elevators. And driving in a car over 50 miles an hour was just freaky. So I can only imagine what it's like for a Ghanaian to come here and see it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now can you imagine?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:191", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.047898657566453, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. But I luckily landed a job where, in a, at the Center for Language Study at Yale, where everyone was also had lived in other places and spoke other languages. And so I fit in there. That was pretty, that was pretty great. But getting used to America was really tough. I remember being afraid of elevators. And driving in a car over 50 miles an hour was just freaky. So I can only imagine what it's like for a Ghanaian to come here and see it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now can you imagine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "How overwhelming it must be. But the teacher I worked with Berekum had gotten to go to the States while we were working together. He had gotten some sort of fellowship to go to the States, and I sat him down to give him some advice before he went to the States. And I said, you know what race relations are like in the United States, right? Things are not all peachy. I mean, you'll be in academia, so things will be much, much easier for you. But I would suggest if you're in a city to wear your traditional Ghanaian clothing. So that everyone recognizes you as an African and not an African American."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I don't know if he understood it, and maybe he did when he came back, you know?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. Have you ever been back?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:193", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.83099850840717, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "How overwhelming it must be. But the teacher I worked with Berekum had gotten to go to the States while we were working together. He had gotten some sort of fellowship to go to the States, and I sat him down to give him some advice before he went to the States. And I said, you know what race relations are like in the United States, right? Things are not all peachy. I mean, you'll be in academia, so things will be much, much easier for you. But I would suggest if you're in a city to wear your traditional Ghanaian clothing. So that everyone recognizes you as an African and not an African American."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I don't know if he understood it, and maybe he did when he came back, you know?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. Have you ever been back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not yet. But I will. I'd like to see all of it, the whole country and the western, and the other West African countries that I got to visit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What? What's the meaning of all this in your life? What did you take out of being in Peace Corps? What has been important to you as you reflect back on that, on that time?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:195", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 8.701109453785744, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I don't know if he understood it, and maybe he did when he came back, you know?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. Have you ever been back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not yet. But I will. I'd like to see all of it, the whole country and the western, and the other West African countries that I got to visit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What? What's the meaning of all this in your life? What did you take out of being in Peace Corps? What has been important to you as you reflect back on that, on that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most important thing was the, uh, culture, the expansion of my awareness of people and history and geography and everything. It changes your brain in ways that you don't even expect. It doesn't just change your brain to understand another culture. It changes you in a way that you understand so much more about the world, about every aspect of the world. The history, history, economics, relationships, politics. And it was a gigantic educational benefit to me and I wish everyone could get that opportunity because the world would be so different if everybody did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have you shared your experience or with this change that's happened, how has it affected as you've gone forward in life? You said you got a job, for example, with a language center that had other people who kind of understood that viewpoint."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:197", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.223454948650827, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not yet. But I will. I'd like to see all of it, the whole country and the western, and the other West African countries that I got to visit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What? What's the meaning of all this in your life? What did you take out of being in Peace Corps? What has been important to you as you reflect back on that, on that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The most important thing was the, uh, culture, the expansion of my awareness of people and history and geography and everything. It changes your brain in ways that you don't even expect. It doesn't just change your brain to understand another culture. It changes you in a way that you understand so much more about the world, about every aspect of the world. The history, history, economics, relationships, politics. And it was a gigantic educational benefit to me and I wish everyone could get that opportunity because the world would be so different if everybody did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How have you shared your experience or with this change that's happened, how has it affected as you've gone forward in life? You said you got a job, for example, with a language center that had other people who kind of understood that viewpoint."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. Ah. Well, what I try to do is when I give presentations about Ghana is to present it. It's easy to, for a lot of people who travel to other countries to present those other countries as if you're looking at them in a National Geographic issue. And instead, I try to show it from the point of view as these were my friends. These are my colleagues. They're not Africans. They're just my colleagues, you know? This is John. This is Victoria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They're not the other."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:201", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.4487098131491685, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. Ah. Well, what I try to do is when I give presentations about Ghana is to present it. It's easy to, for a lot of people who travel to other countries to present those other countries as if you're looking at them in a National Geographic issue. And instead, I try to show it from the point of view as these were my friends. These are my colleagues. They're not Africans. They're just my colleagues, you know? This is John. This is Victoria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They're not the other."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They're not the other. And even Peace Corps, returned Peace Corps volunteers tend to romanticize or talk about their former colleagues in that sort of objectified way. I don't think they mean it, but it ends up coming out like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I try to encourage people to go and visit. And I really like to talk to kids about it, to try to encourage them to do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you've continued to do presentations?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:209", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.594284123074482, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I stay, I stay involved in the culture because I love West African music. So, you know, as much as I can go to cultural events and all that stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But my goal, and it aligns with that third goal of Peace Corps, is to bring, is to bring the world to back home, you know, bring your country back home. And so the more, as many presentations as I can give, I will, especially to kids to encourage them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What place do you think Peace Corps has in the world now?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:211", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 9.54920458119387, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But my goal, and it aligns with that third goal of Peace Corps, is to bring, is to bring the world to back home, you know, bring your country back home. And so the more, as many presentations as I can give, I will, especially to kids to encourage them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cool."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What place do you think Peace Corps has in the world now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, anyone who's been in Peace Corps will say that we desperately need more Peace Corps volunteers going out and spreading goodwill about the United States, especially after 9/11. I mean, it's not even just 9/11. We are known, Americans don't realize how feared and hated we are in so many countries for our behavior over the years. At the same time, loved and admired. So if we don't send as many people out there as possible on goodwill missions, it's only going to get worse for us. And it's not going in a good direction. So we need, we need these cultural ambassadors. Going to as many countries as possible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything else you want to share about your experience before or after, in Peace Corps? Anything that we haven't talked about that you want to share?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:215", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.320005655794901, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, anyone who's been in Peace Corps will say that we desperately need more Peace Corps volunteers going out and spreading goodwill about the United States, especially after 9/11. I mean, it's not even just 9/11. We are known, Americans don't realize how feared and hated we are in so many countries for our behavior over the years. At the same time, loved and admired. So if we don't send as many people out there as possible on goodwill missions, it's only going to get worse for us. And it's not going in a good direction. So we need, we need these cultural ambassadors. Going to as many countries as possible."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything else you want to share about your experience before or after, in Peace Corps? Anything that we haven't talked about that you want to share?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are endless stories that Peace Corps volunteers start telling once they're in, once they're going. But I think the biggest thing I would share is to encourage people to, if they themselves are not thinking of it, to encourage other people to do it. Because they, people look at it like this two years, it's so long. What a long time to be away. Two years is a blip. Two years is not even long enough to understand the culture you're living in. So. It's enough to understand it in a cursory way and get by, but not to really live it. So if there's a way to encourage more people to join Peace Corps. That's kind of the biggest thing I would, I would want to do. Or the biggest thing I take out of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But as far as anecdotes, I have a hundred. And they'll, they, they're always ready to come up in the right context but."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's your favorite?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:219", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.8271674762900005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But as far as anecdotes, I have a hundred. And they'll, they, they're always ready to come up in the right context but."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's your favorite?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I like the story of grabbing my butt in front of those guys. Uh. I got to interview what even the Ghanaians called a witch doctor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So early in training you have a project that you are assigned and mine was local religions. And I wanted to understand the old- fashioned local religion or the indigenous whatever. And the thing is, is that Ghana has become so, such a target of missionaries. It has become so Christianized that almost everyone I encountered was a Christian of some sort. And that's not a bad thing. But what I wanted to study was the pre-Christian religions there.\n\nSo I got to interview this local fetish priest, is what he is called. And you would think the fetish priest would be an old guy, you know, living in a cave or something. It was a very young, handsome guy. He had to be 24. And I think it was handed, that position had been handed down. And he was now it. And so meeting with the fetish priests involved a bit of politicking and a bit of gift giving. It wasn't that easily given up because here you have cultural secret, you have something precious, and you're not just going to let it go that easily. If it's something of that much value to you and you could get something for it, like a bottle of gin, I don't see anything wrong with exacting that from the volunteer, and they did, happily, so. And I think I gave a little bit of money just sort of as a tip for his time.\n\nBut the funny part was at the end, he had a, he had some interlocutor come to me and ask me for more money. And that ended up being a bit of a quandary. And I remember my host country trainers saying, oh no, you don't give him more money. He's trying to rip you off. But anyway."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It will never stop."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:235", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3489999999999998, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But the drumming would always come from the village, the adjoining village, far away, where people would use drums more."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Interesting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And drumming was actually part of the school schedule. When it was time to change classes, one of the boys would, you know, play something to indicate it was time to change classes. And I was sad to see that change into some electronic bell."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Bell, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you bring home with you?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:237", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.61, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And drumming was actually part of the school schedule. When it was time to change classes, one of the boys would, you know, play something to indicate it was time to change classes. And I was sad to see that change into some electronic bell."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Bell, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you bring home with you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "As far as my attitude or things?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, as far as anything, things."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:243", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the attitude I already talked about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The change in perspective. This huge shift in perspective I already talked about, but I brought a few. I didn't bring much as far as souvenirs, but I brought some art home. I brought a painting of Mami Wata home. And I knew an artist who, I had asked, I had commissioned him to paint Mami Wata for me. And when he looked for an image to use for Mami Wata, he used the Old Testament. He used, uh, I forget what slave girl in the Old Testament, but she ended up having these big earrings, big slave girl earrings and long brown hair and light skin just like the Mami Wata of the fetish priest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I still have that painting. The type of art that was really common was sign art there in Ghana. In fact, they've been art books published about the sign art in Ghana. And the style of the painting that he did was in that sign art. It's sort of almost very bright colors with a type of script in English. And if I had had more money, I would have bought a lot more sign art. You will go to exhibits of sign art in the United States about Ghanaian sign art and they're, friends of mine had bought me when they had traveled north. They came home with a snake for me and this snake was coiled and ready to attack. It's sort of like a guardian snake, and I still have that.\n\nBut, you know, I didn't bring. I brought some mud cloth home from Mali when we traveled in Mali, which is a very beautiful kind of painted cloth. And a mask for my sister. But as far as, you know, bringing. You know, that was, those were the material things that I brought home. But the love of the music was the biggest thing I brought with me. Yeah. I brought a drum, a djembe drum, home but."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was wondering if you brought a drum home."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:247", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I still have that painting. The type of art that was really common was sign art there in Ghana. In fact, they've been art books published about the sign art in Ghana. And the style of the painting that he did was in that sign art. It's sort of almost very bright colors with a type of script in English. And if I had had more money, I would have bought a lot more sign art. You will go to exhibits of sign art in the United States about Ghanaian sign art and they're, friends of mine had bought me when they had traveled north. They came home with a snake for me and this snake was coiled and ready to attack. It's sort of like a guardian snake, and I still have that.\n\nBut, you know, I didn't bring. I brought some mud cloth home from Mali when we traveled in Mali, which is a very beautiful kind of painted cloth. And a mask for my sister. But as far as, you know, bringing. You know, that was, those were the material things that I brought home. But the love of the music was the biggest thing I brought with me. Yeah. I brought a drum, a djembe drum, home but."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was wondering if you brought a drum home."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I had to get a djembe drum. The nice thing about the drums is that the local artist, the local drum maker, would sculpt whatever you wanted in the image on the side of the wood drum. And you got to see it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was art too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is, yeah. I gave it to my brother. He still has it. But the music is, I mean, the artists, the musical artists, are what I, stay with, that stayed most with me. So if there's any Ghanaian or West African music playing, I have to go and hear it because it's one. It's the best music in the world, I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great. Well, thanks. Very interesting."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00160:249", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I had to get a djembe drum. The nice thing about the drums is that the local artist, the local drum maker, would sculpt whatever you wanted in the image on the side of the wood drum. And you got to see it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was art too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is, yeah. I gave it to my brother. He still has it. But the music is, I mean, the artists, the musical artists, are what I, stay with, that stayed most with me. So if there's any Ghanaian or West African music playing, I have to go and hear it because it's one. It's the best music in the world, I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great. Well, thanks. Very interesting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All right, thank you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything else you want to add?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:3", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 10, "return_to_go": 36.28419020168667, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I became interested in aviation in high school with my first airplane ride. I thought it was exciting, and it got me to thinking about aviation. After high school, I went to college at Texas A&M [College Station, Texas] and got a degree in aeronautical engineering. I went directly into the Air Force via ROTC [Reserve Officer Training Corps] and reported to the Air Force Flight Test Center at Edwards, California. I had a great career there, five years, if you can call five years a career. It was a wonderful place to be, exciting, educational, and it was a good experience because they work your tail off out there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of work were you doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Flight test engineer, flying as the test director, so to speak, on test flights. In my five years, I spent almost five years of that time working on the [Convair] B-58 [Hustler], which is a strategic nuclear bomber, very latest thing at that time, mach 2. I was flying mach 2 in 1958.\\n\\n That led directly—indirectly, I guess it sounds like—but directly into my wanting to come to NASA, because although I felt like what I was doing was very important, there had to be a better thing to do than develop nuclear bombers. There had to be a better answer, and I got this crazy idea that the space program was an alternative way to compete with other countries such as Russia. Interestingly enough, the last program I worked on at NASA, I was working with the Russians."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s an interesting turn of events during the whole range of the space race, as you went from the beginning in competition to the end where now there’s some cooperation going on."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About the same time you had graduated from college or were getting in the Air Force was when the Russians launched Sputnik, starting this whole event. What do you remember of some of these early happenings of the space race?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 34.82056269092821, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I remember it was very frightening and disturbing that the Russians could beat us at something like that, that Sputnik. That was in college, I guess. I was in college when Sputnik flew.\\n\\n My position in flight test gave me an interesting perspective on the manned space program because all the test pilots that I worked with thought the manned space program was a weird thing. They described it as a monkey in a cage, because the early space program, Mercury, the pilot was very much a passenger, and the test pilots that I worked with didn’t like that aspect of it. Some of them did become astronauts. I knew Deke [Donald K.] Slayton at Edwards. I knew Leroy [L. Gordon] Cooper. We called him Leroy. He’s Gordo here. Tom [Thomas P.] Stafford, Frank Borman, and probably some more that would come to mind. Ted [Theodore C.] Freeman."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Edwards, being the center of Air Force flight testing, is really the training ground for a lot of these people who came to the astronaut program. Were there any particular skills or experiences you developed there that you found useful in your later work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean at Edwards?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mostly how to work hard. I did learn a great deal, I think, about flying and the crew's role in flying. In fact, much of my career at NASA was spent in crew integration, crew training, things like that, flight control. Not mission control, but flight control, piloting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you had mentioned, with Sputnik there was a kind of shock that the Soviets could beat us at something, and this was really sort of a national phenomenon in things like the missile gap and such. As someone who was working in the Air Force and with some high-tech things, what impact did this sort of negative publicity about the American technical community have on you?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 36.46729187880912, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean at Edwards?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mostly how to work hard. I did learn a great deal, I think, about flying and the crew's role in flying. In fact, much of my career at NASA was spent in crew integration, crew training, things like that, flight control. Not mission control, but flight control, piloting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you had mentioned, with Sputnik there was a kind of shock that the Soviets could beat us at something, and this was really sort of a national phenomenon in things like the missile gap and such. As someone who was working in the Air Force and with some high-tech things, what impact did this sort of negative publicity about the American technical community have on you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I don’t recall any reaction except I had to work harder. It was a fearful time. Nuclear holocaust seemed not very far away, and there were several instances when I was in the Air Force where the strategic arm of the Air Force went on high alert. The Berlin Wall, Cuban Missile Crisis, it was a fearful time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly the space program is a less overt way to do some of this competition in a less threatening fashion, in the manned space program, anyway."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 37.185879865343466, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mostly how to work hard. I did learn a great deal, I think, about flying and the crew's role in flying. In fact, much of my career at NASA was spent in crew integration, crew training, things like that, flight control. Not mission control, but flight control, piloting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you had mentioned, with Sputnik there was a kind of shock that the Soviets could beat us at something, and this was really sort of a national phenomenon in things like the missile gap and such. As someone who was working in the Air Force and with some high-tech things, what impact did this sort of negative publicity about the American technical community have on you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I don’t recall any reaction except I had to work harder. It was a fearful time. Nuclear holocaust seemed not very far away, and there were several instances when I was in the Air Force where the strategic arm of the Air Force went on high alert. The Berlin Wall, Cuban Missile Crisis, it was a fearful time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly the space program is a less overt way to do some of this competition in a less threatening fashion, in the manned space program, anyway."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I felt like it was a necessary thing that we ultimately move out of the Earth into other worlds. I still feel that. The picture we saw from the Moon on Apollo 8, when they took the picture of Earth from the Moon, had a lot of play at the time in the press and people saying, “We can now see the Earth as one rather than as different countries.” That’s very important, very, very important to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Getting that picture was close to the end of what President [John F.] Kennedy had pledged in 1961, that NASA send someone to the Moon and bring them back by the end of the decade. But when he made that pledge, you weren’t yet with NASA. Do you remember that having any particular significance to you, or did you think it was something even feasible?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 32.42875540593718, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I don’t recall any reaction except I had to work harder. It was a fearful time. Nuclear holocaust seemed not very far away, and there were several instances when I was in the Air Force where the strategic arm of the Air Force went on high alert. The Berlin Wall, Cuban Missile Crisis, it was a fearful time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly the space program is a less overt way to do some of this competition in a less threatening fashion, in the manned space program, anyway."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I felt like it was a necessary thing that we ultimately move out of the Earth into other worlds. I still feel that. The picture we saw from the Moon on Apollo 8, when they took the picture of Earth from the Moon, had a lot of play at the time in the press and people saying, “We can now see the Earth as one rather than as different countries.” That’s very important, very, very important to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Getting that picture was close to the end of what President [John F.] Kennedy had pledged in 1961, that NASA send someone to the Moon and bring them back by the end of the decade. But when he made that pledge, you weren’t yet with NASA. Do you remember that having any particular significance to you, or did you think it was something even feasible?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that time and for many years thereafter, I thought it was wild. I think in the early years here at, then MSC [Manned Spacecraft Center] it was an exciting goal, but it seemed so unreachable. We had to have so much luck. We did have a lot of luck. We had government support. Kennedy and [Lyndon B.] Johnson were certainly an important factor in giving us the support we needed to do this, and we had some great leaders like Walt [Walter C.] Williams and Bob [Robert R.] Gilruth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s certainly because of the hard work of people like yourself that we did get there within the time frame President Kennedy had established."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 34.9208393399302, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I felt like it was a necessary thing that we ultimately move out of the Earth into other worlds. I still feel that. The picture we saw from the Moon on Apollo 8, when they took the picture of Earth from the Moon, had a lot of play at the time in the press and people saying, “We can now see the Earth as one rather than as different countries.” That’s very important, very, very important to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Getting that picture was close to the end of what President [John F.] Kennedy had pledged in 1961, that NASA send someone to the Moon and bring them back by the end of the decade. But when he made that pledge, you weren’t yet with NASA. Do you remember that having any particular significance to you, or did you think it was something even feasible?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that time and for many years thereafter, I thought it was wild. I think in the early years here at, then MSC [Manned Spacecraft Center] it was an exciting goal, but it seemed so unreachable. We had to have so much luck. We did have a lot of luck. We had government support. Kennedy and [Lyndon B.] Johnson were certainly an important factor in giving us the support we needed to do this, and we had some great leaders like Walt [Walter C.] Williams and Bob [Robert R.] Gilruth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s certainly because of the hard work of people like yourself that we did get there within the time frame President Kennedy had established."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A lot of people worked very hard for many years. I’ve heard people say, “We missed the sixties,” and I think in a way we did. We were very insulated here from the rest of the world, not just at work, but the communities we lived in. It was very rare to have a neighbor who wasn’t involved in the space program. I’m not saying we worked all the time, but even in your recreation, you were dealing with and you were talking about the space program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you personally have a lot of awareness of these other things going on once you had become enmeshed in the space program?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 38.80093259992244, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that time and for many years thereafter, I thought it was wild. I think in the early years here at, then MSC [Manned Spacecraft Center] it was an exciting goal, but it seemed so unreachable. We had to have so much luck. We did have a lot of luck. We had government support. Kennedy and [Lyndon B.] Johnson were certainly an important factor in giving us the support we needed to do this, and we had some great leaders like Walt [Walter C.] Williams and Bob [Robert R.] Gilruth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s certainly because of the hard work of people like yourself that we did get there within the time frame President Kennedy had established."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A lot of people worked very hard for many years. I’ve heard people say, “We missed the sixties,” and I think in a way we did. We were very insulated here from the rest of the world, not just at work, but the communities we lived in. It was very rare to have a neighbor who wasn’t involved in the space program. I’m not saying we worked all the time, but even in your recreation, you were dealing with and you were talking about the space program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you personally have a lot of awareness of these other things going on once you had become enmeshed in the space program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Other things, like what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Either civil unrest or Vietnam, these kinds of large issues?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 43.11214733324716, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A lot of people worked very hard for many years. I’ve heard people say, “We missed the sixties,” and I think in a way we did. We were very insulated here from the rest of the world, not just at work, but the communities we lived in. It was very rare to have a neighbor who wasn’t involved in the space program. I’m not saying we worked all the time, but even in your recreation, you were dealing with and you were talking about the space program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you personally have a lot of awareness of these other things going on once you had become enmeshed in the space program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Other things, like what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Either civil unrest or Vietnam, these kinds of large issues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we were aware of it, but I don’t think we involved ourselves in it very much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Bringing you back to Edwards, how did you find out about an opportunity to come work at the new Manned Spacecraft Center they were going to build down here?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 45.68016370360795, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Other things, like what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Either civil unrest or Vietnam, these kinds of large issues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we were aware of it, but I don’t think we involved ourselves in it very much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Bringing you back to Edwards, how did you find out about an opportunity to come work at the new Manned Spacecraft Center they were going to build down here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "NASA was getting a lot of publicity. Aviation Week, which I read faithfully because it was what I was interested in, was full of stuff on NASA. As a native Texan, I guess that was part of it, too. I was interested in coming back to Texas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you describe for me how you applied and whatever interview process was going on, how you came to work here, specifically?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 40.75573744845328, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we were aware of it, but I don’t think we involved ourselves in it very much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Bringing you back to Edwards, how did you find out about an opportunity to come work at the new Manned Spacecraft Center they were going to build down here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "NASA was getting a lot of publicity. Aviation Week, which I read faithfully because it was what I was interested in, was full of stuff on NASA. As a native Texan, I guess that was part of it, too. I was interested in coming back to Texas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you describe for me how you applied and whatever interview process was going on, how you came to work here, specifically?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wrote them a letter, got a response asking me to come down for the interviews. I remember my first interview was with this character named Gene [Eugene F.] Kranz. I don’t know if you know him. You've probably met Gene. He is a character. He’s a good friend of mine, and I’ve grown to respect him and like him over the years, but he was very different to me at that time.\\n\\n I decided I didn’t want to be a flight controller in places like Guaymas, Mexico and so forth. So I looked elsewhere and interviewed some people in the Apollo Program Office. I guess it was called the Apollo Spacecraft Program Office [ASPO] at that time. They thought my flight test background was very useful, so I did go to work in November of ’62 in the Apollo Spacecraft Program Office. I think it was the Flight Technology Office."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In 1962, you were one of something like 2,000 people that NASA brought in to the Manned Spacecraft Center. It was really expanding in size tremendously. Can you describe for me what it was like to be a new person down there, what the atmosphere was, the kinds of facilities they had, and the other kinds of people that were there?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 21, "return_to_go": 48.858005560818896, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was working on trying to make sense of a test program, and it was hard to get my teeth into that. I never did very well at it. I spent a few months in that job and moved to a different job that I thought was better suited for my experience. It was called Crew Integration Branch, still in the Apollo Spacecraft Program Office. There we were worrying about crew training and crew procedures and crew controls and displays and crew equipment like spacesuits and so forth, from a program office standpoint, you know. What are our requirements and how are we going to pay for it? Working with the various offices throughout Johnson Space Center on developing those things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything else you remember from this first job in working out these tests and things like reliability and all of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing comes to mind at the moment, worth talking about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Crew integration was something that obviously you had a little bit more interest in, at least."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, there were more things happening at that time. The flight-test program was awfully far away, and I wanted something that I could get my teeth into at the time. I got more than I could deal with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of issues were you looking at? What were the first problems that you encountered?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 20.138829066257752, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "’67, February of ’67. Probably in 1966, then, early on, the boss of the Apollo Spacecraft Program Office was Joe [Joseph F.] Shea. He had received a question about fire, and he asked me to go talk to the Gemini Program Office, get their view on the fire hazard, which I did. They were like we were; they were thinking of it from the point of being in space. They weren’t very much concerned about it. A big mistake on our part.\\n\\n I don’t know if you’ve had a chance to interview a man named Howard [John H.] Kimzey. I think his first initial is J, but his name is Howard Kimzey. He was the one that was raising the flag of the fire hazard. But it just didn’t come across to anybody at that time that it could be as bad as it was. So we spent a hard year recovering from that. A year and a half, I guess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were some of the changes then, aside from the hatch, which you already mentioned, that were made?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mostly in materials, getting rid of flammable materials, and in testing. We tested every material. I wasn’t personally involved in that, but several of my friends were personally involved in selecting and developing new materials. Of course, we weren’t actually developing them. We were developing for this application. We had a lot to learn about things like beta cloth and how we could really use it. But getting rid of a lot of flammables and running tests on all the nonmetallic materials, and in the full-up spacecraft, boilerplate spacecraft flammability tests."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly the command module they ended up with was very successful in all respects, I guess, without any of these sorts of significant issues."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was astounding how well things went after that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One thing we haven’t talked about at all is the lunar module and any work you might have done with that."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 19.043143406953057, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mostly in materials, getting rid of flammable materials, and in testing. We tested every material. I wasn’t personally involved in that, but several of my friends were personally involved in selecting and developing new materials. Of course, we weren’t actually developing them. We were developing for this application. We had a lot to learn about things like beta cloth and how we could really use it. But getting rid of a lot of flammables and running tests on all the nonmetallic materials, and in the full-up spacecraft, boilerplate spacecraft flammability tests."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly the command module they ended up with was very successful in all respects, I guess, without any of these sorts of significant issues."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was astounding how well things went after that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One thing we haven’t talked about at all is the lunar module and any work you might have done with that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I worked somewhat less with Grumman than with North American. For example, on the malfunction procedures and on the spacecraft schematics, we did those for the LM [lunar module] as well as for command module. Early years, I was deeply involved with Grumman on setting up the engineering simulation program for the lunar module and crew requirements, crew equipment, crew integration for the LM as well as for the command module, but just somewhat less than command module."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you find significant differences between working with Grumman and working with North American?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.381270452170064, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was astounding how well things went after that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One thing we haven’t talked about at all is the lunar module and any work you might have done with that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I worked somewhat less with Grumman than with North American. For example, on the malfunction procedures and on the spacecraft schematics, we did those for the LM [lunar module] as well as for command module. Early years, I was deeply involved with Grumman on setting up the engineering simulation program for the lunar module and crew requirements, crew equipment, crew integration for the LM as well as for the command module, but just somewhat less than command module."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you find significant differences between working with Grumman and working with North American?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, they were different. Grumman, their entire history had been working with Navy aircraft. They were very good engineers. They had less experience in what they’d started out to do than North American did. But their big handicap was weight. The numbers are not real sharp in my mind, but it seemed to me that when we let the lunar module contract, we had a weight budget for the LM of 11,000 pounds, and before seven or eight months were out, the weight estimate was 22,000 pounds. Whoever had done that was just severely optimistic.\\n\\n Of course, Grumman had another problem. They started perhaps a year and a half or two years after North American did. But that job was underestimated, and I don’t think it was Grumman’s fault. I don’t think the delays were Grumman’s fault. I think the job was just underestimated, the time, the schedule, the weight. That cost a lot of money to get weight out of the [lunar] module, and, of course, we never got back to that 11,000-pound budget."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some people have suggested that the lunar module design or the concept for the lunar module was underestimated from the very beginning. As soon as they chose the lunar orbit rendezvous method, that the weight estimates were optimistic."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.868078280188959, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I worked somewhat less with Grumman than with North American. For example, on the malfunction procedures and on the spacecraft schematics, we did those for the LM [lunar module] as well as for command module. Early years, I was deeply involved with Grumman on setting up the engineering simulation program for the lunar module and crew requirements, crew equipment, crew integration for the LM as well as for the command module, but just somewhat less than command module."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you find significant differences between working with Grumman and working with North American?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, they were different. Grumman, their entire history had been working with Navy aircraft. They were very good engineers. They had less experience in what they’d started out to do than North American did. But their big handicap was weight. The numbers are not real sharp in my mind, but it seemed to me that when we let the lunar module contract, we had a weight budget for the LM of 11,000 pounds, and before seven or eight months were out, the weight estimate was 22,000 pounds. Whoever had done that was just severely optimistic.\\n\\n Of course, Grumman had another problem. They started perhaps a year and a half or two years after North American did. But that job was underestimated, and I don’t think it was Grumman’s fault. I don’t think the delays were Grumman’s fault. I think the job was just underestimated, the time, the schedule, the weight. That cost a lot of money to get weight out of the [lunar] module, and, of course, we never got back to that 11,000-pound budget."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some people have suggested that the lunar module design or the concept for the lunar module was underestimated from the very beginning. As soon as they chose the lunar orbit rendezvous method, that the weight estimates were optimistic."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I suppose that’s so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Out of curiosity, were you around when they still hadn't yet made this mode decision or was that before you came?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.52008697798773, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, they were different. Grumman, their entire history had been working with Navy aircraft. They were very good engineers. They had less experience in what they’d started out to do than North American did. But their big handicap was weight. The numbers are not real sharp in my mind, but it seemed to me that when we let the lunar module contract, we had a weight budget for the LM of 11,000 pounds, and before seven or eight months were out, the weight estimate was 22,000 pounds. Whoever had done that was just severely optimistic.\\n\\n Of course, Grumman had another problem. They started perhaps a year and a half or two years after North American did. But that job was underestimated, and I don’t think it was Grumman’s fault. I don’t think the delays were Grumman’s fault. I think the job was just underestimated, the time, the schedule, the weight. That cost a lot of money to get weight out of the [lunar] module, and, of course, we never got back to that 11,000-pound budget."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some people have suggested that the lunar module design or the concept for the lunar module was underestimated from the very beginning. As soon as they chose the lunar orbit rendezvous method, that the weight estimates were optimistic."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I suppose that’s so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Out of curiosity, were you around when they still hadn't yet made this mode decision or was that before you came?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The lunar orbit rendezvous was before my time. I’m sure that was a very traumatic decision. I don’t think anybody ever second-guessed it, though, after the decision was made. I think it was the right one. It proved to be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly the fact that it got us to the Moon and back seems to validate the decision that was made then."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.355652197764144, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I suppose that’s so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Out of curiosity, were you around when they still hadn't yet made this mode decision or was that before you came?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The lunar orbit rendezvous was before my time. I’m sure that was a very traumatic decision. I don’t think anybody ever second-guessed it, though, after the decision was made. I think it was the right one. It proved to be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly the fact that it got us to the Moon and back seems to validate the decision that was made then."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You’ve mentioned both North American and Grumman, the major contractors, but earlier on you had suggested that working with support contractors was a little bit of a learning experience as well. Can you share some of your thoughts on that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.395169108626824, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The lunar orbit rendezvous was before my time. I’m sure that was a very traumatic decision. I don’t think anybody ever second-guessed it, though, after the decision was made. I think it was the right one. It proved to be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly the fact that it got us to the Moon and back seems to validate the decision that was made then."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You’ve mentioned both North American and Grumman, the major contractors, but earlier on you had suggested that working with support contractors was a little bit of a learning experience as well. Can you share some of your thoughts on that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the first thing we had to learn was that we were going to do it. I think a lot of us thought, “We don’t need any help.” Certainly we learned how to work with support contractors just as though they were civil servants. There were very many valuable people, very many good friends came out of the relationship. It was a way to overcome our shortages when we needed somebody, some skill we didn’t have, we could usually find it through a contractor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like what kind of work, for instance?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:63", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 22.66129900958536, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You’ve mentioned both North American and Grumman, the major contractors, but earlier on you had suggested that working with support contractors was a little bit of a learning experience as well. Can you share some of your thoughts on that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the first thing we had to learn was that we were going to do it. I think a lot of us thought, “We don’t need any help.” Certainly we learned how to work with support contractors just as though they were civil servants. There were very many valuable people, very many good friends came out of the relationship. It was a way to overcome our shortages when we needed somebody, some skill we didn’t have, we could usually find it through a contractor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like what kind of work, for instance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, for example, the schematics that I was talking about. I didn’t have anybody in our shop that could have done what those people did, that six- or seven-man group did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A lot of the original Space Task Group members and people that became the core of MSC were these people who would come out of the NACA [National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics] and were research engineers who they, themselves, didn’t have a whole lot of experience working with contractors, so it was kind of a new experience overall. Did you find yourself fitting in with these groups of people?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:65", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 24.0681100106504, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the first thing we had to learn was that we were going to do it. I think a lot of us thought, “We don’t need any help.” Certainly we learned how to work with support contractors just as though they were civil servants. There were very many valuable people, very many good friends came out of the relationship. It was a way to overcome our shortages when we needed somebody, some skill we didn’t have, we could usually find it through a contractor."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like what kind of work, for instance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, for example, the schematics that I was talking about. I didn’t have anybody in our shop that could have done what those people did, that six- or seven-man group did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A lot of the original Space Task Group members and people that became the core of MSC were these people who would come out of the NACA [National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics] and were research engineers who they, themselves, didn’t have a whole lot of experience working with contractors, so it was kind of a new experience overall. Did you find yourself fitting in with these groups of people?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In that same way, yes. My background, I didn’t need support contractors, and they had come out of the same kind of environments. I may be overstating this, but we had a hard sell. After a couple of years, no one would have thought to go back to trying to do the job without them. They were too much ingrained in everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess, for them, both Mercury and Gemini were steps towards Apollo in this respect, getting the larger and larger programs where you get more activity that you need these kind of contractors to do support."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:85", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.385690605395137, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just the commanders?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Originally, it was planned that they would fly it, but we had a hard enough time meeting the requirements for one man per mission. [While we did not let LM pilots fly the LLTV, all backup commanders did receive LLTV training.]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was then sort of a maintenance and upkeep issue and time scheduling rather than a safety concern?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think safety was a big part of it, too. The risk, if you’re flying the lunar module pilot, is the same. The payoff is not as great because he’s not that likely to get that call to take over the LM."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Several times you’ve mentioned how scary this program was. Could you imagine something that could have improved the program or perhaps an alternative flying machine that would have given a similar experience?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:87", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 22.65076733932793, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Originally, it was planned that they would fly it, but we had a hard enough time meeting the requirements for one man per mission. [While we did not let LM pilots fly the LLTV, all backup commanders did receive LLTV training.]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was then sort of a maintenance and upkeep issue and time scheduling rather than a safety concern?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think safety was a big part of it, too. The risk, if you’re flying the lunar module pilot, is the same. The payoff is not as great because he’s not that likely to get that call to take over the LM."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Several times you’ve mentioned how scary this program was. Could you imagine something that could have improved the program or perhaps an alternative flying machine that would have given a similar experience?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We could have started over and redesigned it and improved it. But that’s true of anything, isn’t it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I suppose so."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:89", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 25.16751926591992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think safety was a big part of it, too. The risk, if you’re flying the lunar module pilot, is the same. The payoff is not as great because he’s not that likely to get that call to take over the LM."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Several times you’ve mentioned how scary this program was. Could you imagine something that could have improved the program or perhaps an alternative flying machine that would have given a similar experience?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We could have started over and redesigned it and improved it. But that’s true of anything, isn’t it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I suppose so."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But that’s totally impractical. There was some things about the design and the electronics that I never agreed with, and we seriously talked among ourselves about a major redesign, but never could convince myself that the improvements we would make would really pay for the development risks of going through it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had mentioned that there was a third crash, and you were left with one LLTV for the rest of the training. What happened in that third instance?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:97", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 32.56747335150117, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had some glitch which we could not identify, and it could have been anything. A short somewhere in the system caused an electrical pulse that kicked the generator off line, which is fine because now we can switch the backup battery and bring the vehicle in for a safe landing. However, what we finally learned was that when you cut the exitation power to the generator, the generator is still turning because it’s being driven by the jet engine. The residual magnetism created enough electricity to keep the relay that was supposed to drop out from dropping out and switching to the battery.\\n\\n Once we hit on that \"eureka,\" we ran the test, demonstrated that that would create exactly the symptoms we saw, redesigned the vehicle again, and got back in operation in time. I can’t remember if that was before Apollo 16. Probably. Probably before Apollo 16, maybe 15."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess I hadn’t realized that you guys did have telemetry from these yet. Was that something for all the flights, too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we had real-time telemetry. We had a little control van with a five-man flight control team monitoring the thing, controlling what happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is this something they had from the very beginning, so they had it for previous accidents as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They had it from the beginning, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In retrospect, it seems like a good thing to have included in the program."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 36.186081501667964, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we had real-time telemetry. We had a little control van with a five-man flight control team monitoring the thing, controlling what happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is this something they had from the very beginning, so they had it for previous accidents as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They had it from the beginning, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In retrospect, it seems like a good thing to have included in the program."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember any of the other comments from other pilots flying it, some of the later Apollo commanders, for instance?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:101", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 35.76231277963107, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They had it from the beginning, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In retrospect, it seems like a good thing to have included in the program."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember any of the other comments from other pilots flying it, some of the later Apollo commanders, for instance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember a joke, it really happened. We had a twenty-year reunion of the lunar landing training vehicle people, and John [W.] Young was there. Of course, he was one of the trainees. One of the men told John, he said, “I never understood why you always called it the LTV, John, and not the LLTV. Why did you do that?” And John said, “Well, lunar landing training vehicle, I was pretty sure I was going to get some training, but I was never very sure I was going to be able to land that son of a gun.”\\n\\n No, the pilots, their post-flight responses were always that it was valuable simulation and that we couldn’t do without it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That joke sounds like typical John Young."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:103", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 39.73590308847896, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember any of the other comments from other pilots flying it, some of the later Apollo commanders, for instance?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember a joke, it really happened. We had a twenty-year reunion of the lunar landing training vehicle people, and John [W.] Young was there. Of course, he was one of the trainees. One of the men told John, he said, “I never understood why you always called it the LTV, John, and not the LLTV. Why did you do that?” And John said, “Well, lunar landing training vehicle, I was pretty sure I was going to get some training, but I was never very sure I was going to be able to land that son of a gun.”\\n\\n No, the pilots, their post-flight responses were always that it was valuable simulation and that we couldn’t do without it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That joke sounds like typical John Young."}, {"role": "user", "content": "John is a character. I hope you’ve had a chance to interview him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We haven’t just yet. We certainly intend to, but he’s still a very busy guy, still working over here at JSC in Mr. Abbey’s office, so one of these days we hope to get him to sit down and talk with us for a while."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:105", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 10, "return_to_go": 44.15100343164329, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember a joke, it really happened. We had a twenty-year reunion of the lunar landing training vehicle people, and John [W.] Young was there. Of course, he was one of the trainees. One of the men told John, he said, “I never understood why you always called it the LTV, John, and not the LLTV. Why did you do that?” And John said, “Well, lunar landing training vehicle, I was pretty sure I was going to get some training, but I was never very sure I was going to be able to land that son of a gun.”\\n\\n No, the pilots, their post-flight responses were always that it was valuable simulation and that we couldn’t do without it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That joke sounds like typical John Young."}, {"role": "user", "content": "John is a character. I hope you’ve had a chance to interview him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We haven’t just yet. We certainly intend to, but he’s still a very busy guy, still working over here at JSC in Mr. Abbey’s office, so one of these days we hope to get him to sit down and talk with us for a while."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It will be an experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I understand. Obviously, with the Apollo Program having a limited number of flights, eventually you knew it was going to end with 17, what kind of future did you see for your program or what kind of things did you see moving into?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:135", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.302053318360002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, in the ALT Program, the Approach and Landing Test Program, the pilot—I hope I’ve got this correct—the pilot had a switch that was not standard Shuttle, where he could cut the gains in half. When he got in the airplane, they came loose from the Shuttle Carrier Aircraft and if he discovered he had control system problems, he could do things like cut the gains in half. Perhaps he could also double them. I don’t think so. You know, to react to control system problems he was having. Didn’t have to use those kinds of things. But, as I said, the first landing, there was a bit of a PIO. If you’ve ever seen the video of that, it’s pretty obvious."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think he responded to that problem in the way you had suggested, just let go of the stick and let the aircraft recover."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, the co-pilot sensed it first and called to him to get off the stick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We've heard about that from a few different people involved with the program, not only from the Flight Crew Operations side.\\n\\n Were there other issues when you were doing the operations planning, these kinds of things, in the Shuttle Program Office that you remember being particularly significant?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I don’t know. Let's see. We spent a lot of time on simulators. We spent a lot of time on the tracking and data system. Spent a lot of time and money on that. We spent a lot of time and money trying to develop and trying to get the GPS into the Shuttle even in those early days. We could show numbers how we could save money if we could get the GPS, Global Positioning System, to replace all this ground tracking network, but didn’t have the money to put in to make the investment to get it. Then the Air Force GPS Program lagged significantly, so it wasn’t nearly as early as they had proposed it to be. Those days in Shuttle, time and money, that was what we worked on. Time and money were nonexistent, almost."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did that compare with your days in Apollo when you were working similar kinds of activities?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:137", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 22.5578370204, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, the co-pilot sensed it first and called to him to get off the stick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We've heard about that from a few different people involved with the program, not only from the Flight Crew Operations side.\\n\\n Were there other issues when you were doing the operations planning, these kinds of things, in the Shuttle Program Office that you remember being particularly significant?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I don’t know. Let's see. We spent a lot of time on simulators. We spent a lot of time on the tracking and data system. Spent a lot of time and money on that. We spent a lot of time and money trying to develop and trying to get the GPS into the Shuttle even in those early days. We could show numbers how we could save money if we could get the GPS, Global Positioning System, to replace all this ground tracking network, but didn’t have the money to put in to make the investment to get it. Then the Air Force GPS Program lagged significantly, so it wasn’t nearly as early as they had proposed it to be. Those days in Shuttle, time and money, that was what we worked on. Time and money were nonexistent, almost."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did that compare with your days in Apollo when you were working similar kinds of activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Time was the pressure. Money was never an issue. I always said, if we had a problem, we threw money at it to make it go away. I don’t remember any pressure on money. There were some things we didn’t do because they cost money, but they were not important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was just something else you had to learn to deal with as you went along."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:139", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 25.064263356, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I don’t know. Let's see. We spent a lot of time on simulators. We spent a lot of time on the tracking and data system. Spent a lot of time and money on that. We spent a lot of time and money trying to develop and trying to get the GPS into the Shuttle even in those early days. We could show numbers how we could save money if we could get the GPS, Global Positioning System, to replace all this ground tracking network, but didn’t have the money to put in to make the investment to get it. Then the Air Force GPS Program lagged significantly, so it wasn’t nearly as early as they had proposed it to be. Those days in Shuttle, time and money, that was what we worked on. Time and money were nonexistent, almost."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did that compare with your days in Apollo when you were working similar kinds of activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Time was the pressure. Money was never an issue. I always said, if we had a problem, we threw money at it to make it go away. I don’t remember any pressure on money. There were some things we didn’t do because they cost money, but they were not important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was just something else you had to learn to deal with as you went along."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. And the Shuttle, as all our programs are, was optimistically conceived."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the face of these kinds of problems, how well do you think the Shuttle in general, and the areas you worked on in particular, came through and were able to overcome these?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:141", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 21.18251484, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Time was the pressure. Money was never an issue. I always said, if we had a problem, we threw money at it to make it go away. I don’t remember any pressure on money. There were some things we didn’t do because they cost money, but they were not important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was just something else you had to learn to deal with as you went along."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. And the Shuttle, as all our programs are, was optimistically conceived."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the face of these kinds of problems, how well do you think the Shuttle in general, and the areas you worked on in particular, came through and were able to overcome these?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it’s a successful program. Twenty years ago, we conceived of the Shuttle as a completely reusable vehicle that was going to fly after a two-week turnaround or some such thing, with a few thousand man-hours of work to turn it around and fly 65,000-pound payloads and fly 66 times a year and things like that. Very optimistic.\\n\\n As it turns out, of course, not only could we not operate the Shuttle that well, that cheaply, that frivolously, but the market didn’t exist either. Sixty-six missions, or sixty missions, I guess it was, they don’t exist. We were very optimistic about the future of manned space flight. Still am, but now I think of it in terms of centuries rather than years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that a change you developed through your years in working with the space program?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:143", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 23.5361276, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. And the Shuttle, as all our programs are, was optimistically conceived."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the face of these kinds of problems, how well do you think the Shuttle in general, and the areas you worked on in particular, came through and were able to overcome these?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it’s a successful program. Twenty years ago, we conceived of the Shuttle as a completely reusable vehicle that was going to fly after a two-week turnaround or some such thing, with a few thousand man-hours of work to turn it around and fly 65,000-pound payloads and fly 66 times a year and things like that. Very optimistic.\\n\\n As it turns out, of course, not only could we not operate the Shuttle that well, that cheaply, that frivolously, but the market didn’t exist either. Sixty-six missions, or sixty missions, I guess it was, they don’t exist. We were very optimistic about the future of manned space flight. Still am, but now I think of it in terms of centuries rather than years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that a change you developed through your years in working with the space program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not too long after the Shuttle Program was up and flying, you left NASA. Why did you want to leave the space program?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:145", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 17.262364, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it’s a successful program. Twenty years ago, we conceived of the Shuttle as a completely reusable vehicle that was going to fly after a two-week turnaround or some such thing, with a few thousand man-hours of work to turn it around and fly 65,000-pound payloads and fly 66 times a year and things like that. Very optimistic.\\n\\n As it turns out, of course, not only could we not operate the Shuttle that well, that cheaply, that frivolously, but the market didn’t exist either. Sixty-six missions, or sixty missions, I guess it was, they don’t exist. We were very optimistic about the future of manned space flight. Still am, but now I think of it in terms of centuries rather than years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that a change you developed through your years in working with the space program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not too long after the Shuttle Program was up and flying, you left NASA. Why did you want to leave the space program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wanted to go sailing. Something I’d always dreamed of, and I did. I left NASA in the end of ’83, and in ’86 my wife and I went off on a long sailing trip. We did it again in ’93, ’94, ’96, ’98, and this year. So I left NASA so I could have the freedom to do that kind of thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So have you kept in touch with what was going on in the space program?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00222:147", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 14.735960000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not too long after the Shuttle Program was up and flying, you left NASA. Why did you want to leave the space program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wanted to go sailing. Something I’d always dreamed of, and I did. I left NASA in the end of ’83, and in ’86 my wife and I went off on a long sailing trip. We did it again in ’93, ’94, ’96, ’98, and this year. So I left NASA so I could have the freedom to do that kind of thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So have you kept in touch with what was going on in the space program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I stayed active. Between my various retirements, I stayed active. I worked for Eagle Engineering, which was a small company, mostly of retired JSC people. Worked with them until ’86 and then from ’86 until…when I came back from my trip in ’86 until they were taken over by Muniz Engineering in, I guess, 1995. It was a great effort. I had a great series of jobs at Eagle. Worked on a lot of things, most of which were space program, not all of which were space program, and not all the space program things were NASA."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To look back at all your involvement with the space program, the twenty years, who were some of the key people that you worked with and really had an impact on you personally?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 25.44087099616674, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "GSA had all the authority legally with a couple exceptions but the Energy Information Administration or the administrator had substantial statutory authority independent of the Secretary of Energy. Another place we went was to the Smithsonian where we had a long discussion with Phillip S. Hughes, Sam Hughes, who was then the Undersecretary of the Smithsonian. Hughes had been the official Deputy Director of the Bureau of the Budget who had written the Bureau of the Budget position paper about 1968 saying leave them in GSA, but give them more money, or something like that. Hughes admitted to us, and was willing to do so on the record, that he was probably wrong when he did that, and he supported independence now in the eighties. That was fairly significant because Hughes had all the contacts in the Public Administration community and I think he talked up the idea within the Public Administration community. I can’t remember all the things that happened at that time but one of the things I went to was a hearing that Glen English had. I'm going to go back to the group, that committee. You had Trudy and she doesn’t want to talk to you, you said. Adrienne Thomas, who later became Deputy Archivist—is Adrienne on your list?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And Maygene Daniels?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maygene left the Archives after that and went to the National Gallery of Art as an Archivist but at independence time her husband was the Staff Director for House Oversight Committee and officially recused himself from the thing, but anyway Maygene lived close to Trudy; I don't know if it was next door or in the same block, but she was Trudy’s neighbor. Maygene also graduated from college with one of my sisters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did this group that was formulated come out with a report?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 27.156523329074155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And Maygene Daniels?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maygene left the Archives after that and went to the National Gallery of Art as an Archivist but at independence time her husband was the Staff Director for House Oversight Committee and officially recused himself from the thing, but anyway Maygene lived close to Trudy; I don't know if it was next door or in the same block, but she was Trudy’s neighbor. Maygene also graduated from college with one of my sisters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did this group that was formulated come out with a report?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there was a report and I don’t remember what it was called. It was probably in ‘83 but I don’t remember for sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This report suggested up backing it up with information from Hughes from—"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 29.062803698971283, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maygene left the Archives after that and went to the National Gallery of Art as an Archivist but at independence time her husband was the Staff Director for House Oversight Committee and officially recused himself from the thing, but anyway Maygene lived close to Trudy; I don't know if it was next door or in the same block, but she was Trudy’s neighbor. Maygene also graduated from college with one of my sisters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did this group that was formulated come out with a report?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there was a report and I don’t remember what it was called. It was probably in ‘83 but I don’t remember for sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This report suggested up backing it up with information from Hughes from—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Interposing] It had backup information and it talked about some possible alternatives I think. It’s been over 30 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s my job to pull the information from you."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 32.29200410996809, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there was a report and I don’t remember what it was called. It was probably in ‘83 but I don’t remember for sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This report suggested up backing it up with information from Hughes from—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Interposing] It had backup information and it talked about some possible alternatives I think. It’s been over 30 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s my job to pull the information from you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You need to find somebody to go find the report."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "John, what was significant and how did the whole politics of independence work on Capitol Hill and who and what was significant and who are significant as far as getting that independence?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 32.5827211234174, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You need to find somebody to go find the report."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "John, what was significant and how did the whole politics of independence work on Capitol Hill and who and what was significant and who are significant as far as getting that independence?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know how it all worked on Capitol Hill. Like I said, I talked a lot to John Parisi who is on the house staff who worked for Maygene Daniels' husband. I know Dick Jacobs did a lot of talking on the phone and doing the same kind of thing with senate staff but there are a lot of other people in the Archives talking to a lot of other politicians. I went to a hearing that was held by Glen English, who was Chairman of the Oversight Committee, and his wife was a personal friend of the librarian at the time. I don’t remember; the archives librarian at the time and I don't remember her name but I believe English’s wife was a personal friend of the librarian. But we had this hearing and English asked a lot of questions with some interesting answers like ‘you didn't get this budget request’ or ‘Mr. Archivist, you didn’t ask for more money. Well why didn’t you ask for more money.’ Because the administrator—first he asked the Administrator why didn’t you give the Archivist more money. This is sort of a paraphrase; and the Administrator said because the Archivist didn’t ask me for more money. Then he asked the archivist why didn't you ask him for more money; because he told me not to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Circles."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Glen English called as a witness Jess Larson who had been English’s father’s or grandfather’s law partner. Jess Larson was the first Administrator of GSA. He said something to the effect that if he’d known how the GSA-Archives relationship was going to turn out he wouldn’t have accepted it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That testimony right there I guess helped push towards independence?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 36.76879151039186, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Glen English called as a witness Jess Larson who had been English’s father’s or grandfather’s law partner. Jess Larson was the first Administrator of GSA. He said something to the effect that if he’d known how the GSA-Archives relationship was going to turn out he wouldn’t have accepted it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That testimony right there I guess helped push towards independence?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but you should be able to find that testimony somewhere in the Congressional Records. I couldn’t give you a citation. Probably ‘83."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then I guess it was the summer of ‘84 there was a lot of back and forth and maybe a couple of false starts and some fear that it wasn't going to pass. First we would be confident and then we weren't so confident but it did pass, I think in what, October of ‘84."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did it mean when it passed?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 33.07643501154651, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but you should be able to find that testimony somewhere in the Congressional Records. I couldn’t give you a citation. Probably ‘83."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then I guess it was the summer of ‘84 there was a lot of back and forth and maybe a couple of false starts and some fear that it wasn't going to pass. First we would be confident and then we weren't so confident but it did pass, I think in what, October of ‘84."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did it mean when it passed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Congress passed a bill to establish the National Archives and Records Administration to be effective, I guess, April 1, 1985. I couldn’t give you the bill number anymore or the title. We had a law that was passed, so what do we do now? About that time then probably at the beginning of November, but maybe not, I wrote a long memo to the Archivist that basically said do it now, and spelled out what I believed were the Administrator's authorities that could be delegated to the Archivist to effectively make the Archives independent. It could have been done all along but Administrators wouldn't do it. My argument was that now that it’s passed and going to be effective April 1 why don't you go ask them to do it now. I think the way that played out is Ray Kline who had been the Deputy Administrator was Acting Administrator and I think Ray Kline was sympathetic and when I went to Kline and came back with a delegation of authority to, in effect, operate independently as soon as he could work out the details."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you come about this idea?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 35.64048334616278, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then I guess it was the summer of ‘84 there was a lot of back and forth and maybe a couple of false starts and some fear that it wasn't going to pass. First we would be confident and then we weren't so confident but it did pass, I think in what, October of ‘84."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did it mean when it passed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Congress passed a bill to establish the National Archives and Records Administration to be effective, I guess, April 1, 1985. I couldn’t give you the bill number anymore or the title. We had a law that was passed, so what do we do now? About that time then probably at the beginning of November, but maybe not, I wrote a long memo to the Archivist that basically said do it now, and spelled out what I believed were the Administrator's authorities that could be delegated to the Archivist to effectively make the Archives independent. It could have been done all along but Administrators wouldn't do it. My argument was that now that it’s passed and going to be effective April 1 why don't you go ask them to do it now. I think the way that played out is Ray Kline who had been the Deputy Administrator was Acting Administrator and I think Ray Kline was sympathetic and when I went to Kline and came back with a delegation of authority to, in effect, operate independently as soon as he could work out the details."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you come about this idea?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’d been arguing that since early in the game. I said if we get it passed then we ought to just do it. I argued even back in the seventies that the Administrator could delegate more authority to the archivist; he just wouldn't do it. If the Administrator did not delegate a lot of authority to any part of GSA from the beginning."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just so you can help our audience out, what’s the hierarchy of Administrator and Archivist? Who is the Administrator compared to the Archivist and how come he is able to put duties onto the Archivist?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 37.902068801923036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That probably was true up until a few years ago. Anyway, we did the transition and it worked—I guess from my perspective it worked better than I would have thought but some people didn't think it worked quite as well but I think it worked out pretty well. Then at independence time before he retired, Warner handed out a bunch of awards to people that worked on independence. I guess that was the act that officially rehabilitated me. I got a $7,500 cash award for working on independence, which I believe was the smallest award of any of the people that worked on it. But it was a demonstration that I was back in management’s good graces and not banished to a closet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that due to your work or is that also due to the fact that people change and administrations change and sometimes that also plays a role in somebody’s life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think probably more my work than administration’s changing. I think my going into the closet in the first place was more due to administrations changing and then Warner just accepting the status quo. I was in effect banished after Rhoads left while O’Neill was Acting Archivist. I was in the doghouse when Warner came in and I think he just maintained the status quo until the end of independence time and I think he had Ed Weldon or—is Ed Weldon on your list?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ed Weldon was the first head of the archives branch in Atlanta. He was later the Georgia State Archivist and the New York State Archivist and he was Deputy Archivist of the U.S. He might be a worthwhile person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At this time John, independence has now officially taken place, we are an independent organization. How did you get to your next duty of Director of the Field Archives that you had for eight years, from ‘84 to ‘92."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 37.66896533547004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think probably more my work than administration’s changing. I think my going into the closet in the first place was more due to administrations changing and then Warner just accepting the status quo. I was in effect banished after Rhoads left while O’Neill was Acting Archivist. I was in the doghouse when Warner came in and I think he just maintained the status quo until the end of independence time and I think he had Ed Weldon or—is Ed Weldon on your list?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ed Weldon was the first head of the archives branch in Atlanta. He was later the Georgia State Archivist and the New York State Archivist and he was Deputy Archivist of the U.S. He might be a worthwhile person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At this time John, independence has now officially taken place, we are an independent organization. How did you get to your next duty of Director of the Field Archives that you had for eight years, from ‘84 to ‘92."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the last few days of the transition when it became clear that I was probably going to be rehabilitated the question was what do we do with him. I think it was Frank Burke who decided that if we were going to run the regions ourselves rather than through the GSA apparatus, and if they were going to take my suggestion that the regional archives be organizationally separate from the record centers and the regional archives work for the Assistant Archivist for the National Archives rather than work for the Record Center Director who worked for the Assistant Archivist for Federal Record Centers. If that’s how we were going to organize then Burke thought I was the best candidate to do it, to run the region or field archives program or whatever we called it at the time. They assigned me to do that. I think it was a combination of what are we going to do with him and he’s probably the person that knows the most about this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is also based upon your reports that you said I believe was ‘68 microfilm?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 39.724232284595395, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but the Regional Archives Coordinator had worked for me during the seventies too when I was in the Office of the National Archives. When I was in the Office of the Executive Director I also did staff work when that had a meeting of the NARA Regional Directors. The regional directors worked for the GSA regional administrators but the archivist would meet with them every year or two and for four or five years there I was the person who did the staff work, the arrangements for the meetings and stuff or my staff did. I did it a couple times and people working for me did it a couple times. We’re going to independence and we have a field archives division which I have taken over and inherited Roseanne Butler who was the Regional Archives Coordinator which they didn’t even consider a management job I don’t think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Roseanne Butler would be considered your assistant?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, and we made her Deputy Director. She was better at some things than I was by far. She’s a better communicator. More sympathetic. I had a vision for the regions that I’d had all along and Frank pretty much was willing to go along with that, Frank Burke, because now was Acting Archivist then after Warner left for a while."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’d like to get clear on who was who. Frank Burke at this point was the Acting Archivist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was Acting Assistant Archivist for the National Archives for a while and then the Acting Archivist for a while. I’m not sure how official all that was because the White House didn’t do anything when Warner left."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you describe your vision for the regions and if that is also part of the manifesto maybe you can go into that a little bit?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 41.91581364955044, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, and we made her Deputy Director. She was better at some things than I was by far. She’s a better communicator. More sympathetic. I had a vision for the regions that I’d had all along and Frank pretty much was willing to go along with that, Frank Burke, because now was Acting Archivist then after Warner left for a while."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’d like to get clear on who was who. Frank Burke at this point was the Acting Archivist?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was Acting Assistant Archivist for the National Archives for a while and then the Acting Archivist for a while. I’m not sure how official all that was because the White House didn’t do anything when Warner left."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Could you describe your vision for the regions and if that is also part of the manifesto maybe you can go into that a little bit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I saw the regional archives as being depositories for the vast quantity of records that were probably somewhere outside Washington, and I think there were a lot more records outside Washington that should have been in the archives than were. I saw it, as with the microfilm, as a way to make the records in Washington more available by putting more of the microfilm there. I saw the regional archives as a way to build a national constituency for the National Archives. It was genealogists outside Washington who supported us strongly when it looked like the Privacy Act was going to be a problem and it was genealogists outside Washington who supported us strongly in the independence fight, made calls to congressman and did things, and I saw the regional archives as an opportunity to build a national constituency among the genealogists and other people and state archivists and historians and I think Burke went along with that and I think Trudy did not, but Burke was the boss at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the argument against it?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:63", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 24.814713726035926, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that’s true but it’s not just the last few years. I think that's why I ceased to be head of the regions in 1992 because that was not viewed as favorably as it had been."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There was a distrust from DC about exactly what the regional archives do."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know; I wish you could talk to Trudy because if Trudy were honest with you she would probably tell you more. You might see what you can get out of Michael Kurtz on that. He was Trudy’s Deputy at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A question I wanted to ask you before we move on from this area to the next section—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Interposing] Let me talk a little more about the regions because we wanted a strong volunteer program and I think that the high point we probably had over 400 volunteers. We wanted extended hours and we required at least one evening and a Saturday a month but we allowed them to do more if they wanted to do more. We encouraged them to do training mainly genealogical training, but training in how to do research in the records. A lot of them would have a Saturday morning session where they would get people in and show them how to search the microfilm. We weren't too specific about some of that but you had to do something. But you know what I mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Also outreach to schools too as well?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:65", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 26.460793028928805, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know; I wish you could talk to Trudy because if Trudy were honest with you she would probably tell you more. You might see what you can get out of Michael Kurtz on that. He was Trudy’s Deputy at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A question I wanted to ask you before we move on from this area to the next section—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Interposing] Let me talk a little more about the regions because we wanted a strong volunteer program and I think that the high point we probably had over 400 volunteers. We wanted extended hours and we required at least one evening and a Saturday a month but we allowed them to do more if they wanted to do more. We encouraged them to do training mainly genealogical training, but training in how to do research in the records. A lot of them would have a Saturday morning session where they would get people in and show them how to search the microfilm. We weren't too specific about some of that but you had to do something. But you know what I mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Also outreach to schools too as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we had a lot of schools to work. We encouraged some… You ought to interview Roseanne. I have not talked to Roseanne for more than 15 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The outreach really in many ways, that outreach was a key component of the regions."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 27.178658921032003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Interposing] Let me talk a little more about the regions because we wanted a strong volunteer program and I think that the high point we probably had over 400 volunteers. We wanted extended hours and we required at least one evening and a Saturday a month but we allowed them to do more if they wanted to do more. We encouraged them to do training mainly genealogical training, but training in how to do research in the records. A lot of them would have a Saturday morning session where they would get people in and show them how to search the microfilm. We weren't too specific about some of that but you had to do something. But you know what I mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Also outreach to schools too as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we had a lot of schools to work. We encouraged some… You ought to interview Roseanne. I have not talked to Roseanne for more than 15 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The outreach really in many ways, that outreach was a key component of the regions."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was a key component. That’s a fair way to put it. I have not seen Roseanne probably since 1999. I think I saw her husband once after that. I understand that she was a uniformed tour guide in Williamsburg but I simply haven’t heard from them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’ll definitely reach out to Roseanne. You had said earlier on in the last interview that we had done you said that outreach in genealogy without it we’d still be in GSA. What did you mean by that?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 32.31933200127408, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was a key component. That’s a fair way to put it. I have not seen Roseanne probably since 1999. I think I saw her husband once after that. I understand that she was a uniformed tour guide in Williamsburg but I simply haven’t heard from them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’ll definitely reach out to Roseanne. You had said earlier on in the last interview that we had done you said that outreach in genealogy without it we’d still be in GSA. What did you mean by that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that the biggest push for independence came from genealogists. The historians were not particularly helpful. The AHA was in favor but you didn’t have history professors calling their congressman and saying do it, if you know what I mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the current Archivist has probably turned his back on the genealogical community but maybe that’s not part of this interview."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We can talk more about that at the end when we talk about the current state of archive—"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:73", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 35.910368890304525, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that the biggest push for independence came from genealogists. The historians were not particularly helpful. The AHA was in favor but you didn’t have history professors calling their congressman and saying do it, if you know what I mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the current Archivist has probably turned his back on the genealogical community but maybe that’s not part of this interview."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We can talk more about that at the end when we talk about the current state of archive—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Interposing] I guess I’m willing to talk about some things at the end that I don’t want in the oral history interview because they aren’t history, if you know what I mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We can always talk off the record. I can stop and we can speak about that. One question I wanted to ask you before we leave here is what missed opportunities do you think we had then or what opportunities do you think we missed during this time of independence and us moving forward. Did we have a chance to do things differently? Did we have a chance to gain something that maybe we never have within the National Archives?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 34.44495046681005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m not sure how to describe it but many of the locations were terrible. For example we moved out of Bayonne [New Jersey] to downtown New York and Philadelphia moved downtown. Not all the downtown moves were good, not all were bad. I think we missed opportunities to move to better facilities in some places or to build joint ventures with other facilities in some places. I think we missed the opportunity to really look closely at where there were significant federal records being created that we weren’t getting. Maybe there should have been more regional or maybe there should be more regional archives; maybe not. I don’t know. I was very much involved in the Alaska project. The archivist basically said that he promised Senator Stevens this would be done and it was up to me to get it done and he wrote a letter to GSA saying that I had full authority to speak for him in dealing with the GSA people in San Francisco and Anchorage. I did what needed to be done and I concluded early on that the building they had planned was too small for the records that were likely to come out of the woodwork if we had a facility there and had some bitter arguments with Claudine about size but ended up building a bigger building than was originally conceived, but for no additional money and we got the project done on time and on budget, and made Senator Stevens very happy and got the records moved without a problem. Do you know Sue Karran?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I know her through the internal collaboration network (ICN) that we have. She’s been giving me a lot of information regarding you and comments that you had made."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sue was the assistant head of the Archives branch in Seattle under Phil Lothyan. I told Sue that it was her project to get the records that were going from Seattle to Anchorage and she was going with them and she couldn't go home until they were all shelved properly. She exceeded my expectations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I hope she got an Archive Achievement Award for it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. She did an excellent job. But anyway what happened in Anchorage recently is beyond the scope of this conversation I guess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, well different era, different time."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:81", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 19, "return_to_go": 38.2721671853445, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sue was the assistant head of the Archives branch in Seattle under Phil Lothyan. I told Sue that it was her project to get the records that were going from Seattle to Anchorage and she was going with them and she couldn't go home until they were all shelved properly. She exceeded my expectations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I hope she got an Archive Achievement Award for it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. She did an excellent job. But anyway what happened in Anchorage recently is beyond the scope of this conversation I guess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, well different era, different time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We can talk about that off the record when we talk about non-historical things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don’t know if this question applies; I’m going to mention it here because I just wanted to mention because a lot of the things that a lot of my colleagues talk about is that the National Archives, and I want to see your take on this, doesn’t seem to have authority or power to secure permanent records from regional facilities. Meaning that we’re out here in the regions and such-and-such agency has historical records and if they don’t want to give it to us we can’t get them to give it to us. Was there ever an opportunity during the course of your career that you saw where we could have actually had enforcement powers to secure permanent records into our facility?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:89", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 24.668750473014025, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think Buck is the last Archivist who had a personal relationship with a sitting President and it wasn’t a close one but Buck did see Roosevelt. Of course, that was the time the Roosevelt Library was being set up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s move on to 1992 to 1995. Tell us about how you transitioned from the Director of Field Archives Division, Regional Archives to the Director of the Non-textual Archive Division. How did that work out?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was called into the Archivist's office and I was told I was being reassigned. I objected. In the meeting I considered it a demotion and that there wasn’t much I can do about it but I was not happy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the politics behind it? If you don’t mind telling us."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In ways that’s a Trudy Peterson or Michael Kurtz question and to some extent Claudine Wieher was probably involved but Claudine’s deceased. There are two women that at one time or other looked at me as their mentor in management matters. Claudine Wieher and Debra Wall. They both became Deputy Archivists. Claudine, as far as I’m concerned, turned to her dark side and Claudine was instrumental in my removal from the Office of the National Archives the first time and my removal from the Regional Archives Program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think that was the case, if you don’t mind speculating? If this is an area that you don’t want on the record I understand."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 27.40972274779336, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was called into the Archivist's office and I was told I was being reassigned. I objected. In the meeting I considered it a demotion and that there wasn’t much I can do about it but I was not happy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the politics behind it? If you don’t mind telling us."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In ways that’s a Trudy Peterson or Michael Kurtz question and to some extent Claudine Wieher was probably involved but Claudine’s deceased. There are two women that at one time or other looked at me as their mentor in management matters. Claudine Wieher and Debra Wall. They both became Deputy Archivists. Claudine, as far as I’m concerned, turned to her dark side and Claudine was instrumental in my removal from the Office of the National Archives the first time and my removal from the Regional Archives Program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think that was the case, if you don’t mind speculating? If this is an area that you don’t want on the record I understand."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never understood. I have really never understood. At the time Claudine retired and sort of at the urging of Debra Wall, believe it or not, I called Claudine to say goodbye, to wish her well, and to tell her maybe we should try to remember the good times rather than the bad times and she did not take that call very kindly and I gather she made fun of it to other people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it was something that you had done?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:93", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 24.89969194199262, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In ways that’s a Trudy Peterson or Michael Kurtz question and to some extent Claudine Wieher was probably involved but Claudine’s deceased. There are two women that at one time or other looked at me as their mentor in management matters. Claudine Wieher and Debra Wall. They both became Deputy Archivists. Claudine, as far as I’m concerned, turned to her dark side and Claudine was instrumental in my removal from the Office of the National Archives the first time and my removal from the Regional Archives Program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think that was the case, if you don’t mind speculating? If this is an area that you don’t want on the record I understand."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never understood. I have really never understood. At the time Claudine retired and sort of at the urging of Debra Wall, believe it or not, I called Claudine to say goodbye, to wish her well, and to tell her maybe we should try to remember the good times rather than the bad times and she did not take that call very kindly and I gather she made fun of it to other people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it was something that you had done?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m sure I must have done something that turned her but I don’t know. I don’t want to get into that more. I think she had some character flaws. I was assigned to the Non-textual Archives Division, a job I hated. I had less authority there than I had running the Regional Archives Program. I turned 50 very shortly after they did that and could have retired if they’d been willing to make it an adverse action like riff me or something, but Don Wilson and Claudine Wieher were not willing to make it an adverse action that would allow me to retire at that time, so I ran the division for about three years and did not like it. During that time though, Debra Wall and Jennifer Nelson, worked for me and both expressed an interest in learning more about management so I spent some time with them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you describe some of what you did? What was your job at that time from ‘92 to ‘95?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:95", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 24.332991046658467, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have never understood. I have really never understood. At the time Claudine retired and sort of at the urging of Debra Wall, believe it or not, I called Claudine to say goodbye, to wish her well, and to tell her maybe we should try to remember the good times rather than the bad times and she did not take that call very kindly and I gather she made fun of it to other people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it was something that you had done?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m sure I must have done something that turned her but I don’t know. I don’t want to get into that more. I think she had some character flaws. I was assigned to the Non-textual Archives Division, a job I hated. I had less authority there than I had running the Regional Archives Program. I turned 50 very shortly after they did that and could have retired if they’d been willing to make it an adverse action like riff me or something, but Don Wilson and Claudine Wieher were not willing to make it an adverse action that would allow me to retire at that time, so I ran the division for about three years and did not like it. During that time though, Debra Wall and Jennifer Nelson, worked for me and both expressed an interest in learning more about management so I spent some time with them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you describe some of what you did? What was your job at that time from ‘92 to ‘95?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was over the Still Picture, Motion Picture, and Cartographic branches. I put some stuff in the 1998 resume I sent you that I don’t remember anymore. It was not a good time and I was not a happy camper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Is there anything else you’d like to talk about during that period?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:97", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 25.925545607398295, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m sure I must have done something that turned her but I don’t know. I don’t want to get into that more. I think she had some character flaws. I was assigned to the Non-textual Archives Division, a job I hated. I had less authority there than I had running the Regional Archives Program. I turned 50 very shortly after they did that and could have retired if they’d been willing to make it an adverse action like riff me or something, but Don Wilson and Claudine Wieher were not willing to make it an adverse action that would allow me to retire at that time, so I ran the division for about three years and did not like it. During that time though, Debra Wall and Jennifer Nelson, worked for me and both expressed an interest in learning more about management so I spent some time with them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you describe some of what you did? What was your job at that time from ‘92 to ‘95?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was over the Still Picture, Motion Picture, and Cartographic branches. I put some stuff in the 1998 resume I sent you that I don’t remember anymore. It was not a good time and I was not a happy camper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Is there anything else you’d like to talk about during that period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let me think for a minute or two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Non-textual Archives Division this was a period in ‘92 to ‘95 where computers were becoming more prevalent and technology was changing. What technical advances were happening or what opportunities did you see for the National Archives to advance during this period?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:101", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 25.834006922713943, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let me think for a minute or two."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Non-textual Archives Division this was a period in ‘92 to ‘95 where computers were becoming more prevalent and technology was changing. What technical advances were happening or what opportunities did you see for the National Archives to advance during this period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had a card catalogue and we talked about digitizing it. I don’t think we got very far on that. Actually Debra would be a better person to talk about that project. I spent some time trying to improve the services by looking at how we did things. I oversaw moving cartographic records from the National Archives, the Pickett Street buildings, to Archives II. Then I did some stuff that was not related to that job because we had another taskforce. I was on taskforces all the time on reinventing government, responding to Gore’s performance review. That was a strategic planning team, and I don’t remember all that stuff. That wasn’t just them. All through my career, when I was in favor, if there was a committee on this management thing or that, I tended to be on it. Like independence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe a third of my time while I was in that job was doing stuff that was not directly related to that job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was this also when the Bledsoe Group report came about and can you describe that a little bit."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:103", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 26.482229914126602, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had a card catalogue and we talked about digitizing it. I don’t think we got very far on that. Actually Debra would be a better person to talk about that project. I spent some time trying to improve the services by looking at how we did things. I oversaw moving cartographic records from the National Archives, the Pickett Street buildings, to Archives II. Then I did some stuff that was not related to that job because we had another taskforce. I was on taskforces all the time on reinventing government, responding to Gore’s performance review. That was a strategic planning team, and I don’t remember all that stuff. That wasn’t just them. All through my career, when I was in favor, if there was a committee on this management thing or that, I tended to be on it. Like independence."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe a third of my time while I was in that job was doing stuff that was not directly related to that job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was this also when the Bledsoe Group report came about and can you describe that a little bit."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that's about the time the Bledsoe Group came about. I don’t remember exactly. Ralph Bledsoe, do you know about Ralph Bledsoe?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, no. What was the Bledsoe Report and Group?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:107", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.027444338427905, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that's about the time the Bledsoe Group came about. I don’t remember exactly. Ralph Bledsoe, do you know about Ralph Bledsoe?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, no. What was the Bledsoe Report and Group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "First of all do you know about Ralph Bledsoe?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. At that time Ralph was the Director of the Reagan Library, the first Director of the Reagan Library, and they set up a group under him to look at how we were doing things and I forget what the official title was and I forget who all was on it. Lori Lisowski was on it among other things. Barbara Berger who was in the Still Picture Branch. I don’t remember all the people. I remember some things 40 or 50 years ago better than I remember things 20 years ago. Before Ralph was director of the Reagan Library he’d had a number of jobs. He had been head of the Graduate Public Administration Program at the Sacramento Branch of USC, I think it was, when Reagan was the governor. He had been on the faculty of the Federal Executive Institute in Charlottesville, not when I went there though. He had been head of the USC Doctor of Public Administration Program at Washington, and he had been Assistant Domestic Policy Advisor in the White House during the Reagan years. He was the White House staff member who wrote the report in the White House agreeing with the NARS independence bill. When he was the White House Assistant Domestic Policy Advisor he basically wrote the White House decision paper favoring independence, and he was very close to Philip S. Hughes. I told you when we went to see Hughes he talked to other people. Ralph was very active in the Public Administration community. Anyway, when we had this committee he was Director of the Reagan Library."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did this committee do?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 16.697160376031004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "First of all do you know about Ralph Bledsoe?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. At that time Ralph was the Director of the Reagan Library, the first Director of the Reagan Library, and they set up a group under him to look at how we were doing things and I forget what the official title was and I forget who all was on it. Lori Lisowski was on it among other things. Barbara Berger who was in the Still Picture Branch. I don’t remember all the people. I remember some things 40 or 50 years ago better than I remember things 20 years ago. Before Ralph was director of the Reagan Library he’d had a number of jobs. He had been head of the Graduate Public Administration Program at the Sacramento Branch of USC, I think it was, when Reagan was the governor. He had been on the faculty of the Federal Executive Institute in Charlottesville, not when I went there though. He had been head of the USC Doctor of Public Administration Program at Washington, and he had been Assistant Domestic Policy Advisor in the White House during the Reagan years. He was the White House staff member who wrote the report in the White House agreeing with the NARS independence bill. When he was the White House Assistant Domestic Policy Advisor he basically wrote the White House decision paper favoring independence, and he was very close to Philip S. Hughes. I told you when we went to see Hughes he talked to other people. Ralph was very active in the Public Administration community. Anyway, when we had this committee he was Director of the Reagan Library."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did this committee do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We wrote a report. I don’t remember what was in the report. We had a meeting out at the Reagan Library along the way. Maybe this was one of the strategic planning things or Gore things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like a reinventing initiative of the nineties?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:115", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.319835906764062, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that kind of thing. We had a meeting at the library and Reagan and Colin Powell were there one of the days at the library and it was interesting because Tom Selleck was there and Barbara Berger who worked for me in Still Pictures at the time chatted up Tom Selleck for a long time because he was interested in Still Pictures research. Shortly after that Ralph was removed from the library and sent to Washington apparently at the request of Mrs. Reagan, and he became an Assistant Archivist and then an Acting Deputy Archivist and I don’t know if he’s still alive or not. He’d be pretty old if he is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some of the questions that I might have about this era, and tell me if this is the ‘92-’95 era, about your work on automation and cataloguing, being responsible for getting public access PCs in all research rooms nationwide, and also your views on your time of troubles and a senate report that was critical of NARA in the 1990s. Did that all happen during this period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I don’t know if it was exactly this period or not. I know I was blamed in part for the Senate report which I was not involved in, but some people seemed to think that I was feeding them information, which I did not do. We worked on public terminals, I don’t know if that was at the end of the non-textual period or beginning of the next period. During the non-textual period we started trying to automate the Motion Picture card catalog and what we did there, and Debra got involved in that and Jennifer Nelson more or less became the first step of what became the NAIL Program or whatever it was called."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You’re talking about a time period I prefer to forget."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did NAIL stand for?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:117", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 17.02203989640451, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I don’t know if it was exactly this period or not. I know I was blamed in part for the Senate report which I was not involved in, but some people seemed to think that I was feeding them information, which I did not do. We worked on public terminals, I don’t know if that was at the end of the non-textual period or beginning of the next period. During the non-textual period we started trying to automate the Motion Picture card catalog and what we did there, and Debra got involved in that and Jennifer Nelson more or less became the first step of what became the NAIL Program or whatever it was called."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You’re talking about a time period I prefer to forget."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did NAIL stand for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "National Archives Information Locator or something like that. NARA Archival Information Locator, or something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's just another form of HMS or something like that."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.802266551560567, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You’re talking about a time period I prefer to forget."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did NAIL stand for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "National Archives Information Locator or something like that. NARA Archival Information Locator, or something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's just another form of HMS or something like that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. When Debra got moved out of the non-textual division into whatever it was called at the time, into that kind of planning and automation programs. That’s what she was working on. You need to interview Debra, you know what? It won’t hurt to interview her on her years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I could definitely do that. You’re right. What do you mean by time of trouble?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.78029616840063, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "National Archives Information Locator or something like that. NARA Archival Information Locator, or something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's just another form of HMS or something like that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. When Debra got moved out of the non-textual division into whatever it was called at the time, into that kind of planning and automation programs. That’s what she was working on. You need to interview Debra, you know what? It won’t hurt to interview her on her years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I could definitely do that. You’re right. What do you mean by time of trouble?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Time of troubles was your term, not mine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was a term that was given to me to ask regarding questions about this era."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:123", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 21.978106853778474, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. When Debra got moved out of the non-textual division into whatever it was called at the time, into that kind of planning and automation programs. That’s what she was working on. You need to interview Debra, you know what? It won’t hurt to interview her on her years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I could definitely do that. You’re right. What do you mean by time of trouble?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Time of troubles was your term, not mine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was a term that was given to me to ask regarding questions about this era."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never heard it referred to that before you asked me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think it does refer to?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:131", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 29.520053122661903, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Don Wilson got a lot of flak over—there was a Senate report, there were some scandals in the personnel office, I think. I was out of the loop again. I was blamed for some things I didn’t do. I think that’s about the time that he approved the Constitutional Amendment that was questionable. What is it, the 27th Amendment, or something? Do you know about that?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, let me think about that a minute. You should know about that. [Pause] The 27th Amendment as I recall prohibited the changes to the salary of Congress until the next term. They couldn’t raise or lower their pay during the current term and it is an amendment that started many, many, many, many years ago and was considered a dead letter I think because it had not been ratified by all the states and a couple states finally ratified it years, maybe 200 years, after it was first proposed and Don Wilson declared it in effect because that’s his job. One of the Archivists’ jobs is to publish the laws."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In some ways the Archivist decides what the law is, if you know what I mean, and Don Wilson decided to publish the 27th Amendment as having been ratified and took some flak over it I believe. But I don’t remember the whole story. You ought to be able to track that down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That would be considered what it means by time of troubles in ‘92."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:133", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 28.35561458073545, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, let me think about that a minute. You should know about that. [Pause] The 27th Amendment as I recall prohibited the changes to the salary of Congress until the next term. They couldn’t raise or lower their pay during the current term and it is an amendment that started many, many, many, many years ago and was considered a dead letter I think because it had not been ratified by all the states and a couple states finally ratified it years, maybe 200 years, after it was first proposed and Don Wilson declared it in effect because that’s his job. One of the Archivists’ jobs is to publish the laws."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In some ways the Archivist decides what the law is, if you know what I mean, and Don Wilson decided to publish the 27th Amendment as having been ratified and took some flak over it I believe. But I don’t remember the whole story. You ought to be able to track that down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That would be considered what it means by time of troubles in ‘92."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was one of the things in that time but there was some bad press. Okay, I just called up the last page in the 27th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States signed by Don W. Wilson. The 18th day of May, 1992, and certified by Martha Girard who was then Director of the Federal Register or Acting Director of the Federal Register."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I can see where there was a lot of contentious issues around this period."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:135", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 31.506238423039385, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In some ways the Archivist decides what the law is, if you know what I mean, and Don Wilson decided to publish the 27th Amendment as having been ratified and took some flak over it I believe. But I don’t remember the whole story. You ought to be able to track that down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That would be considered what it means by time of troubles in ‘92."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was one of the things in that time but there was some bad press. Okay, I just called up the last page in the 27th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States signed by Don W. Wilson. The 18th day of May, 1992, and certified by Martha Girard who was then Director of the Federal Register or Acting Director of the Federal Register."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I can see where there was a lot of contentious issues around this period."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was some kind of personnel scandal at the time and I was… Oh, I don’t remember. I just don’t remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s get back on track with your life at this point. Do you want to move on to the next section of ‘95 to ‘98 when you were Special Assistant to the Archivist for Human Resources and Information Services?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:137", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 28.340264914488206, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was one of the things in that time but there was some bad press. Okay, I just called up the last page in the 27th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States signed by Don W. Wilson. The 18th day of May, 1992, and certified by Martha Girard who was then Director of the Federal Register or Acting Director of the Federal Register."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, I can see where there was a lot of contentious issues around this period."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was some kind of personnel scandal at the time and I was… Oh, I don’t remember. I just don’t remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let’s get back on track with your life at this point. Do you want to move on to the next section of ‘95 to ‘98 when you were Special Assistant to the Archivist for Human Resources and Information Services?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a lot of our job. I was off in a closet again but I was given things to do, if you know what I mean. I was doing odd staff jobs. I was not in charge of anything or supervising anybody. One of the things I worked on was the reimbursable funding for record centers. Steve Hannestad and I worked on that a lot. Steve worked for Claudine when she did the original NARS A-1 history. Steve was in charge of security for the archives for a while. He was around for a long time and worked for Claudine Weiher and for Adrienne Thomas. Worked for me for a short time. I guess there was something from the Bledsoe report that had to be implemented and I did something on that. I worked on the taskforce that was working on how to do the reimbursable funding for the record centers, and I was on a committee related to space planning for consolidating facilities. At that time I think Carlin was expecting me to recommend closing some of the regional archives. I was on a lot of the teams that reviewed IT contracts and other contracts related to information technology just reviewing the contracts. You had to have teams review the technical aspects of the contracts and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you recommend any regional archives to be closed?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:141", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 34.98798137591136, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a lot of our job. I was off in a closet again but I was given things to do, if you know what I mean. I was doing odd staff jobs. I was not in charge of anything or supervising anybody. One of the things I worked on was the reimbursable funding for record centers. Steve Hannestad and I worked on that a lot. Steve worked for Claudine when she did the original NARS A-1 history. Steve was in charge of security for the archives for a while. He was around for a long time and worked for Claudine Weiher and for Adrienne Thomas. Worked for me for a short time. I guess there was something from the Bledsoe report that had to be implemented and I did something on that. I worked on the taskforce that was working on how to do the reimbursable funding for the record centers, and I was on a committee related to space planning for consolidating facilities. At that time I think Carlin was expecting me to recommend closing some of the regional archives. I was on a lot of the teams that reviewed IT contracts and other contracts related to information technology just reviewing the contracts. You had to have teams review the technical aspects of the contracts and stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you recommend any regional archives to be closed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I retired."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was starting to get asked about that when I retired and then I did not and I did some things immediately postretirement to make that more difficult for the Archivist to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Going back to FRC and reimbursable funding, how did that come about the idea of reimbursable funding moving in that direction?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:143", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 33.31997930656817, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I retired."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was starting to get asked about that when I retired and then I did not and I did some things immediately postretirement to make that more difficult for the Archivist to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Going back to FRC and reimbursable funding, how did that come about the idea of reimbursable funding moving in that direction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It had been talked about off and on for years and I’m not sure exactly how it came about because I don’t think I was privy to the decision to go ahead and do something about it but I was assigned to work on how to do it and whether we want the courts to pay as well as the agencies and stuff and we had more than one group working on it. Steve Hannestad and I were working with all of them and we ended up with a report that had recommendations and choices to be made and we had a big powwow on. I think it was December 17, 1997, and that was the day that Carlin and Bellardo were called out to be told about the coming Post story about Mrs. Carlin. At that point, by Christmas of 1997 I was spending most of my time trying to find a job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it because you were tired of the National Archives or was it because you saw the writing on the wall that would—that you were no longer—"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:145", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 32.57775478507574, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was starting to get asked about that when I retired and then I did not and I did some things immediately postretirement to make that more difficult for the Archivist to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Going back to FRC and reimbursable funding, how did that come about the idea of reimbursable funding moving in that direction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It had been talked about off and on for years and I’m not sure exactly how it came about because I don’t think I was privy to the decision to go ahead and do something about it but I was assigned to work on how to do it and whether we want the courts to pay as well as the agencies and stuff and we had more than one group working on it. Steve Hannestad and I were working with all of them and we ended up with a report that had recommendations and choices to be made and we had a big powwow on. I think it was December 17, 1997, and that was the day that Carlin and Bellardo were called out to be told about the coming Post story about Mrs. Carlin. At that point, by Christmas of 1997 I was spending most of my time trying to find a job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it because you were tired of the National Archives or was it because you saw the writing on the wall that would—that you were no longer—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Interposing] I saw the writing on the wall. I became eligible to retire on August 14, 1998. On August 13, 1998, I went and had lunch with Ren Cahoon and I said I am not happy. I want a real job. Here are three possible alternatives that I would be happy with. You are the Archivist, can you recommend something else but I will not stay with the status quo and as soon as I find a job I’m leaving and this is your notice. It took me ‘til March to find a job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ren Cahoon was not amenable to you having one of the three options that you—"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:147", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 36.19750531675082, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It had been talked about off and on for years and I’m not sure exactly how it came about because I don’t think I was privy to the decision to go ahead and do something about it but I was assigned to work on how to do it and whether we want the courts to pay as well as the agencies and stuff and we had more than one group working on it. Steve Hannestad and I were working with all of them and we ended up with a report that had recommendations and choices to be made and we had a big powwow on. I think it was December 17, 1997, and that was the day that Carlin and Bellardo were called out to be told about the coming Post story about Mrs. Carlin. At that point, by Christmas of 1997 I was spending most of my time trying to find a job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it because you were tired of the National Archives or was it because you saw the writing on the wall that would—that you were no longer—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Interposing] I saw the writing on the wall. I became eligible to retire on August 14, 1998. On August 13, 1998, I went and had lunch with Ren Cahoon and I said I am not happy. I want a real job. Here are three possible alternatives that I would be happy with. You are the Archivist, can you recommend something else but I will not stay with the status quo and as soon as I find a job I’m leaving and this is your notice. It took me ‘til March to find a job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ren Cahoon was not amenable to you having one of the three options that you—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Interposing] Ren Cahoon was not amenable to the options that was within his power to grant and the Archivist was not amenable to either of the other options."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you want to talk about those options at all?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:151", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 26, "return_to_go": 42.46605594660595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[Interposing] Ren Cahoon was not amenable to the options that was within his power to grant and the Archivist was not amenable to either of the other options."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you want to talk about those options at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’ll mention one. That was to return to the job I had in 1970-74 in planning which they ended up giving to Jerry George and then Lori Lisowski which were reasonable candidates for the job, but that was one of the ones that I said I would be happy with. But I didn’t think they would do it anyway."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Anything else you want to say at this period before we move on to some general questions that will stand during the course of everything we’ve talked about and then we'll get into what you did right after and at the very end of our interview."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:159", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.00359083463793, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ralph Bledsoe told me when he retired, and he was not treated well the last year or two he was at the Archives, he told me that I would find it a great relief and I found that to be true. I was back in the building maybe a month or so later and Dick Higgins, who you probably don’t know, but Dick worked for Debra Wall at the time, Dick looked at me and said you know you’ve de-aged 20 years. I worked for Ancestry for almost two years. We’re done with my career at the Archives I guess. One thing I did in the immediate month after I retired is I went to meetings in New York and in Philadelphia of people trying to keep the archives from closing those regional archives branches and attended those meetings and said a few words."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was this? What period was this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would have been the spring of ‘98."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In some ways your connection with the regional archives was strong throughout your career. Do you think that if you were to have been kept in that position do you think things in the regions may have been different?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I think the regional archives program would be very different."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In what ways? Or what ways would you like to have seen them be different than they are today?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:161", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.892878705153255, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would have been the spring of ‘98."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In some ways your connection with the regional archives was strong throughout your career. Do you think that if you were to have been kept in that position do you think things in the regions may have been different?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I think the regional archives program would be very different."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In what ways? Or what ways would you like to have seen them be different than they are today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think you would have more records and you would be outreach engines that would have built a greater national constituency for the archives that would make it more well-known and probably have enhanced the archivist's authority to go get more records which would have made it more well-known that would have—you know what I mean? It would have gone into a feedback loop that probably would have helped the agency considerably but that's just my opinion, which is not the opinion of then or current management."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think it wasn’t their opinion?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:163", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.99208745017028, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I think the regional archives program would be very different."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In what ways? Or what ways would you like to have seen them be different than they are today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think you would have more records and you would be outreach engines that would have built a greater national constituency for the archives that would make it more well-known and probably have enhanced the archivist's authority to go get more records which would have made it more well-known that would have—you know what I mean? It would have gone into a feedback loop that probably would have helped the agency considerably but that's just my opinion, which is not the opinion of then or current management."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think it wasn’t their opinion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know because people are controlling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that there’s a disconnect between College Park or Archives I and the regions that there’s a basic misunderstanding or lack of understanding of what the regions do?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:165", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 12, "return_to_go": 23.32454161130031, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think you would have more records and you would be outreach engines that would have built a greater national constituency for the archives that would make it more well-known and probably have enhanced the archivist's authority to go get more records which would have made it more well-known that would have—you know what I mean? It would have gone into a feedback loop that probably would have helped the agency considerably but that's just my opinion, which is not the opinion of then or current management."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why do you think it wasn’t their opinion?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t know because people are controlling."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that there’s a disconnect between College Park or Archives I and the regions that there’s a basic misunderstanding or lack of understanding of what the regions do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t speak to the status quo because I have not—are we off the record or are we still on the record?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’re still on the record but we can talk about that when I finish up if you like. I’ll move on to something else and—"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:175", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 8.813936919, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I think I was highly regarded by Bahmer and Bert Rhoads and I was not highly regarded by Jim O’Neill when he became the Acting Archivist."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any regrets within your career? I know it’s a big question considering that it’s a long career."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I thought about that question. I may have some regrets but if you ask me if I would do anything differently the answer if probably not. I have some regrets that Claudine and Reed Whitaker turned on me, but I can’t think of anything I could have done that would make that different. After reading your question I thought a lot about whether I would have done anything different and I don’t think so except maybe get out earlier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that you had said when I asked the question about what you’re most proudest of, what contributions you’re most proud of you said to tell the truth most of the things at which I was most proud of at the time had not endured. One of your contributions was the regions and the regions have endured."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But they have not endured in the way that I envisioned them or in the way that—the regions are less important in the agency today than they were when I left or when I left the program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That may be true but I think due to your commitment to the regions they have at least endured to this moment in 2016."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:177", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.4599299100000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I thought about that question. I may have some regrets but if you ask me if I would do anything differently the answer if probably not. I have some regrets that Claudine and Reed Whitaker turned on me, but I can’t think of anything I could have done that would make that different. After reading your question I thought a lot about whether I would have done anything different and I don’t think so except maybe get out earlier."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that you had said when I asked the question about what you’re most proudest of, what contributions you’re most proud of you said to tell the truth most of the things at which I was most proud of at the time had not endured. One of your contributions was the regions and the regions have endured."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But they have not endured in the way that I envisioned them or in the way that—the regions are less important in the agency today than they were when I left or when I left the program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That may be true but I think due to your commitment to the regions they have at least endured to this moment in 2016."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the relations with the genealogical community are important and have been important and I think they have been diminished in recent years. I think that NARS A-1 could have been the foundation for a lot of automated advances that probably were delayed by five to ten years because NARS A-1 effectively got killed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you further explain NARS A-1?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:179", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.1776999, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But they have not endured in the way that I envisioned them or in the way that—the regions are less important in the agency today than they were when I left or when I left the program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That may be true but I think due to your commitment to the regions they have at least endured to this moment in 2016."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the relations with the genealogical community are important and have been important and I think they have been diminished in recent years. I think that NARS A-1 could have been the foundation for a lot of automated advances that probably were delayed by five to ten years because NARS A-1 effectively got killed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you further explain NARS A-1?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It started out basically as a way of automating the production of finding aids and if the program had evolved and the data had been migrated we would have been way ahead compared to what happened when they effectively killed the program and tossed the data and started over."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the reason why the project was killed?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:181", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.864111, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the relations with the genealogical community are important and have been important and I think they have been diminished in recent years. I think that NARS A-1 could have been the foundation for a lot of automated advances that probably were delayed by five to ten years because NARS A-1 effectively got killed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you further explain NARS A-1?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It started out basically as a way of automating the production of finding aids and if the program had evolved and the data had been migrated we would have been way ahead compared to what happened when they effectively killed the program and tossed the data and started over."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the reason why the project was killed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You have to ask Trudy Peterson or Virginia Purdy. I got removed. I got sent off to the Office of Records Management and then put on the shelf or put in the closet and a lot of changes were made and nobody asked me my opinion or asked me to explain why things were done the way they were done or told me what they were doing so I don't know for sure. I could say that part of it was people didn’t understand. I could say part of it was people didn’t like me but I don’t know for sure. There may have been valid criticisms of which I am unaware."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then I will ask those questions of the people that I interview in the future."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:183", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.626790000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It started out basically as a way of automating the production of finding aids and if the program had evolved and the data had been migrated we would have been way ahead compared to what happened when they effectively killed the program and tossed the data and started over."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the reason why the project was killed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You have to ask Trudy Peterson or Virginia Purdy. I got removed. I got sent off to the Office of Records Management and then put on the shelf or put in the closet and a lot of changes were made and nobody asked me my opinion or asked me to explain why things were done the way they were done or told me what they were doing so I don't know for sure. I could say that part of it was people didn’t understand. I could say part of it was people didn’t like me but I don’t know for sure. There may have been valid criticisms of which I am unaware."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then I will ask those questions of the people that I interview in the future."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t believe that Trudy wouldn’t talk to you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think she’s been very busy. I didn’t get an indication of a refusal to answer my questions as much as she seems to be extremely busy, but she did give me contact information for two individuals that I hope to get to."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:185", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.3631, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You have to ask Trudy Peterson or Virginia Purdy. I got removed. I got sent off to the Office of Records Management and then put on the shelf or put in the closet and a lot of changes were made and nobody asked me my opinion or asked me to explain why things were done the way they were done or told me what they were doing so I don't know for sure. I could say that part of it was people didn’t understand. I could say part of it was people didn’t like me but I don’t know for sure. There may have been valid criticisms of which I am unaware."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then I will ask those questions of the people that I interview in the future."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t believe that Trudy wouldn’t talk to you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think she’s been very busy. I didn’t get an indication of a refusal to answer my questions as much as she seems to be extremely busy, but she did give me contact information for two individuals that I hope to get to."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Dick Jacobs and Jack Landers would probably be very good people to talk to, Dick especially."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I do have numbers for them so I will be reaching out to them. One final question I want to ask you which might be on the mind of a lot of people who are listening here. You left the archives for Ancestry.com. Do you think that Ancestry had a hand in possibly diminishing the importance of the regions?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:187", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.959, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t believe that Trudy wouldn’t talk to you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think she’s been very busy. I didn’t get an indication of a refusal to answer my questions as much as she seems to be extremely busy, but she did give me contact information for two individuals that I hope to get to."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Dick Jacobs and Jack Landers would probably be very good people to talk to, Dick especially."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I do have numbers for them so I will be reaching out to them. One final question I want to ask you which might be on the mind of a lot of people who are listening here. You left the archives for Ancestry.com. Do you think that Ancestry had a hand in possibly diminishing the importance of the regions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that digitizing records and in effect making microfilm obsolete might have accomplished that but I wouldn’t blame Ancestry for that. I’d blame the changing technology if anything. The fact that Ancestry did it doesn’t mean it's Ancestry’s fault, if you know what I mean. If the church had been ahead of the game or if MyHeritage or FindMyPast or one of Ancestry’s competitors had been first to it it would have been them. It’s the changing technology and partly the inability or unwillingness or whatever of the National Archives and Records Administration to keep up or to I don’t know…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Private enterprise fills in where government maybe doesn’t have the financial resources to do what Ancestry eventually did."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:189", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.51, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Dick Jacobs and Jack Landers would probably be very good people to talk to, Dick especially."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I do have numbers for them so I will be reaching out to them. One final question I want to ask you which might be on the mind of a lot of people who are listening here. You left the archives for Ancestry.com. Do you think that Ancestry had a hand in possibly diminishing the importance of the regions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that digitizing records and in effect making microfilm obsolete might have accomplished that but I wouldn’t blame Ancestry for that. I’d blame the changing technology if anything. The fact that Ancestry did it doesn’t mean it's Ancestry’s fault, if you know what I mean. If the church had been ahead of the game or if MyHeritage or FindMyPast or one of Ancestry’s competitors had been first to it it would have been them. It’s the changing technology and partly the inability or unwillingness or whatever of the National Archives and Records Administration to keep up or to I don’t know…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Private enterprise fills in where government maybe doesn’t have the financial resources to do what Ancestry eventually did."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That might be part of it but I wouldn’t blame it all on the financial resources. I blame it partly on the motivation or the spirit of innovation or whatever because I think that if—the archives was involved in large-scale microfilming before most anybody else. The National Archives was innovators in distributing records on microfilm but was not an innovator in distributing records in digital form. It was not a private enterprise that innovated distributing records to the public in microform, it was the National Archives followed by the Mormon Church."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very good point."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:191", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 3.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that digitizing records and in effect making microfilm obsolete might have accomplished that but I wouldn’t blame Ancestry for that. I’d blame the changing technology if anything. The fact that Ancestry did it doesn’t mean it's Ancestry’s fault, if you know what I mean. If the church had been ahead of the game or if MyHeritage or FindMyPast or one of Ancestry’s competitors had been first to it it would have been them. It’s the changing technology and partly the inability or unwillingness or whatever of the National Archives and Records Administration to keep up or to I don’t know…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Private enterprise fills in where government maybe doesn’t have the financial resources to do what Ancestry eventually did."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That might be part of it but I wouldn’t blame it all on the financial resources. I blame it partly on the motivation or the spirit of innovation or whatever because I think that if—the archives was involved in large-scale microfilming before most anybody else. The National Archives was innovators in distributing records on microfilm but was not an innovator in distributing records in digital form. It was not a private enterprise that innovated distributing records to the public in microform, it was the National Archives followed by the Mormon Church."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very good point."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that the National Archives could have chosen to be the innovator in digitizing records or getting them digitized or finding someone to digitize or finding the resources to digitize them or using the genealogical community to drive demand in such a way that they would get the resources to do it and management basically chose not to do so. Whether that was an active choice or a passive choice I couldn't say. The National Archives in its basically 80-year history has been an innovator during some periods of time and a follower in others and I don’t think it's been an innovator in the last couple decades."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you venture a reason why?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:193", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That might be part of it but I wouldn’t blame it all on the financial resources. I blame it partly on the motivation or the spirit of innovation or whatever because I think that if—the archives was involved in large-scale microfilming before most anybody else. The National Archives was innovators in distributing records on microfilm but was not an innovator in distributing records in digital form. It was not a private enterprise that innovated distributing records to the public in microform, it was the National Archives followed by the Mormon Church."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very good point."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that the National Archives could have chosen to be the innovator in digitizing records or getting them digitized or finding someone to digitize or finding the resources to digitize them or using the genealogical community to drive demand in such a way that they would get the resources to do it and management basically chose not to do so. Whether that was an active choice or a passive choice I couldn't say. The National Archives in its basically 80-year history has been an innovator during some periods of time and a follower in others and I don’t think it's been an innovator in the last couple decades."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you venture a reason why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The basic thing is who’s in charge and who they listen to I think. Read the Herb Angel thing. Records Management, that was an innovation that was prompted in part by the war but some of the thinking about it happened in the thirties before the war and you’ll see that more as you read the Angel thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The Herb Angel transcript?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:195", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that the National Archives could have chosen to be the innovator in digitizing records or getting them digitized or finding someone to digitize or finding the resources to digitize them or using the genealogical community to drive demand in such a way that they would get the resources to do it and management basically chose not to do so. Whether that was an active choice or a passive choice I couldn't say. The National Archives in its basically 80-year history has been an innovator during some periods of time and a follower in others and I don’t think it's been an innovator in the last couple decades."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you venture a reason why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The basic thing is who’s in charge and who they listen to I think. Read the Herb Angel thing. Records Management, that was an innovation that was prompted in part by the war but some of the thinking about it happened in the thirties before the war and you’ll see that more as you read the Angel thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The Herb Angel transcript?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. You had a management with a lot of bright people and let the bright people go do their thing. The microfilm publication program is from the same era and some of the same people. Then both the microfilm program and the records management program got pushes later on that caused more innovation and sometimes it was external things that prompted the pushes but the archives were ahead of the games in a lot of ways. I can't think of ways that it's been ahead of the game for a long time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In conclusion is there anything that you’d like to add before we stop the interview?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00053:197", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The basic thing is who’s in charge and who they listen to I think. Read the Herb Angel thing. Records Management, that was an innovation that was prompted in part by the war but some of the thinking about it happened in the thirties before the war and you’ll see that more as you read the Angel thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The Herb Angel transcript?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. You had a management with a lot of bright people and let the bright people go do their thing. The microfilm publication program is from the same era and some of the same people. Then both the microfilm program and the records management program got pushes later on that caused more innovation and sometimes it was external things that prompted the pushes but the archives were ahead of the games in a lot of ways. I can't think of ways that it's been ahead of the game for a long time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In conclusion is there anything that you’d like to add before we stop the interview?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No but there are a couple of things I’ll add after we stop the interview."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you very much Mr. Scroggins. It’s been wonderful for you to take us back and to add to the history of the National Archives. It’s very important and I think your honesty will be appreciated by generations to come."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 34.692824412792966, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but this is where my memory starts to fail me. John McCarthy was in charge of quite a number of people, probably about up to 1,000 people, back in the early phases of Apollo, in North American Aviation, and we worked closely with him. We worked closely with others in my little element of guidance, navigation, and control, worked closely with Bob Antletz. I really have to look at an employee list to be able to remember all the other names."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you work much with people from MIT [Massachusetts Institute of Technology] in your position?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. As a matter of fact, Aaron Cohen—Paul Ebersole was in charge of the guidance and navigation part of the Apollo Program, which was a large subsystem, but important subsystem designed by MIT, and later the manufacturing of the system was awarded to A.C. Electronics. We worked closely with Paul Ebersole. We worked closely with Aaron Cohen, who was the guidance and navigations, I think, subsystem manager for Apollo, and he would come out frequently to Downey, and we'd go back to the subsystem meetings back at Houston.\\n\\n Honeywell had the stabilization and control system, so we would go back occasionally to Honeywell to see how that was going on in support of the subsystem manager. I can't remember who the subsystem manager was in Houston, but they were excellent people. We were really privileged to work with such a good bunch as we had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In 1965, General [Samuel C.] Phillips came out with the Phillips report which was never officially published. Were you aware of it at that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In '65 a report on what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "General Sam Phillips' report?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 34.10313823643663, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. As a matter of fact, Aaron Cohen—Paul Ebersole was in charge of the guidance and navigation part of the Apollo Program, which was a large subsystem, but important subsystem designed by MIT, and later the manufacturing of the system was awarded to A.C. Electronics. We worked closely with Paul Ebersole. We worked closely with Aaron Cohen, who was the guidance and navigations, I think, subsystem manager for Apollo, and he would come out frequently to Downey, and we'd go back to the subsystem meetings back at Houston.\\n\\n Honeywell had the stabilization and control system, so we would go back occasionally to Honeywell to see how that was going on in support of the subsystem manager. I can't remember who the subsystem manager was in Houston, but they were excellent people. We were really privileged to work with such a good bunch as we had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In 1965, General [Samuel C.] Phillips came out with the Phillips report which was never officially published. Were you aware of it at that time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In '65 a report on what?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "General Sam Phillips' report?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm trying to think. I vaguely remember that report, but my recollection of Sam Phillips was at one of our management reviews at Downey when Dr. [Joseph F.] Shea, Joe Shea, was holding forth at the podium explaining how the program was progressing. Sam Phillips was in the audience. At the completion of Dr. Shea's pitch, General Phillips said, \"Joe, you should have been on the stage. You'd have been a great actor.\" [Laughter] There was a certain amount of rivalry between the two. But I can't recall the report you mention."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When the Apollo fire occurred, you had a unique perspective because you were a NASA person at Downey. From your perspective, how did that fire affect personnel at that facility?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 14.555269523798025, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we were delighted when the mission for Apollo 8 was changed so that it became a circumlunar mission, because it was a bold move and a bit of a gamble, but it allowed evaluation of the guidance and navigation system in one of its most demanding roles and also to come back in at circumlunar return velocity of 36,000 feet per second. That was a great test. We had reentered—I think it was Boilerplate 20, 17 and 20, came in at or close to simulated lunar reentry speed, but this was the first time we were doing it, coming back from the Moon and with [men] inside. So, yes, it was an amazing and a most satisfying result. It was a great mission, and, of course, it had public relations impact, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Speaking of public relations impact, Apollo 11 was soon to follow. Do you remember where you were for Apollo 11?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I can't remember exactly. I was in and out of—we had a mission support room at Downey, and the role of a mission support was to support the Mission Control Center in Houston. It was in communication with the spacecraft at the Cape and also, of course, the Launch Control Center, the Mission Control Center and the vehicle, once it got into orbit or on its route around the Moon. I can't recall if I was in the mission support room for the actual landing. I really can't remember where I was, but I do remember watching on television either in the mission support room or back at home. We worked shifts in the mission support room, you know, twenty-four-hour work, and you felt you were being closely involved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you continue to work in the mission support rooms for subsequent Apollo missions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Either I or others were in it. We took shifts, yes, for all the Apollo missions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But Apollo 12, at launch the vehicle was struck by lightning. Do you remember that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 15.061410581997805, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I can't remember exactly. I was in and out of—we had a mission support room at Downey, and the role of a mission support was to support the Mission Control Center in Houston. It was in communication with the spacecraft at the Cape and also, of course, the Launch Control Center, the Mission Control Center and the vehicle, once it got into orbit or on its route around the Moon. I can't recall if I was in the mission support room for the actual landing. I really can't remember where I was, but I do remember watching on television either in the mission support room or back at home. We worked shifts in the mission support room, you know, twenty-four-hour work, and you felt you were being closely involved."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you continue to work in the mission support rooms for subsequent Apollo missions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Either I or others were in it. We took shifts, yes, for all the Apollo missions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But Apollo 12, at launch the vehicle was struck by lightning. Do you remember that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. That was the first and biggest lightning test we had, and I guess there was a lot of uncertainty as to how well it would come out of it. We were all gratified to know it recovered. Incidentally, that triggered thorough—as thorough as we could—lightning tests on the Space Shuttle Program to make sure that we were anticipating a similar kind of problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The next mission was Apollo 13. What kind of mission support were you involved in for that mission?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:43", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.512678424442006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Either I or others were in it. We took shifts, yes, for all the Apollo missions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But Apollo 12, at launch the vehicle was struck by lightning. Do you remember that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. That was the first and biggest lightning test we had, and I guess there was a lot of uncertainty as to how well it would come out of it. We were all gratified to know it recovered. Incidentally, that triggered thorough—as thorough as we could—lightning tests on the Space Shuttle Program to make sure that we were anticipating a similar kind of problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The next mission was Apollo 13. What kind of mission support were you involved in for that mission?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, Apollo 13, it was North American who were manning the mission support room and providing help to Houston, as required for the work-arounds, but the main role in coming up [with] the work-arounds was performed by Houston, the Mission Control Center supported by the subsystem managers and the engineering division down in Houston. Rockwell participated, too, and I can't recall just exactly how. It was [mainly] in the environmental control system, in [confirming] the proposed work-arounds that Houston were coming up with: the control of the carbon dioxide partial pressure and other problems, the heating, how to keep warm enough. It was a great combined team effort, and we were just there in a support role.\\n\\n One thing I should mention about Apollo 13—I think I sent you a copy—after the mission and the safe return of the crew, Grumman [builder of the lunar module] sent an invoice to North American for towing the spacecraft back to the Earth. It was nice to have that little light side to what was a near tragic affair."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's true. After the Review Board investigated the Apollo 13 incident, did that cause any major changes at North American [unclear]?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.969380554790131, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No major changes. There was close scrutiny, of course, of the oxygen tank in which the wire had been damaged, so there was an investigation into the design of that and any necessary redesigns, but after the cause had been thoroughly established, that was the extent. I'm trying to think if there were any other ramifications. No, I think it was mainly control to the cryogenic system, limited to the cryogenic system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any other Apollo missions that stand out in your mind or any impact on you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, of course, Apollo 11 was the biggest, 13 because of the near tragic accident. Alan [B.] Shepard [Jr.] hitting a golf ball on the Moon [Apollo 14], and, of course, Apollo-Soyuz, the Apollo joining up with the Soyuz spacecraft. I guess each one had its own element of thrill about it. The Apollo command and service module's docking with the Skylab and their amazing—their repair work, the canopy they put over the separated micrometeoroid shield and making it a habitable successful spacecraft. Technically, it was very interesting and fascinating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For Skylab, you went to McDonnell-Douglas [Corp.] to oversee the orbital workshop."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you mentioned earlier. How was this experience different than working with North American?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.632645060877923, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, of course, Apollo 11 was the biggest, 13 because of the near tragic accident. Alan [B.] Shepard [Jr.] hitting a golf ball on the Moon [Apollo 14], and, of course, Apollo-Soyuz, the Apollo joining up with the Soyuz spacecraft. I guess each one had its own element of thrill about it. The Apollo command and service module's docking with the Skylab and their amazing—their repair work, the canopy they put over the separated micrometeoroid shield and making it a habitable successful spacecraft. Technically, it was very interesting and fascinating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For Skylab, you went to McDonnell-Douglas [Corp.] to oversee the orbital workshop."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you mentioned earlier. How was this experience different than working with North American?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "McDonnell-Douglas had not worked on a manned spacecraft before. I don't think they had had the close on-site presence of NASA personnel before, looking over their shoulder. So that was a little change. There were some improvements in the way the test procedures were written, and Houston and the resident office at Downey were able to help in that respect. They hadn't worked with astronauts before. Of course, the astronauts they were working with were very smart cookies. They could ask all the questions that needed to be asked, and I think this was a learning process for McDonnell-Douglas. But we got along very well with the contractor, as we did with North American, once they realized that we were there to help, not to be a problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were some of the milestones in this development of the orbital workshop?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 18.480716734308803, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you mentioned earlier. How was this experience different than working with North American?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "McDonnell-Douglas had not worked on a manned spacecraft before. I don't think they had had the close on-site presence of NASA personnel before, looking over their shoulder. So that was a little change. There were some improvements in the way the test procedures were written, and Houston and the resident office at Downey were able to help in that respect. They hadn't worked with astronauts before. Of course, the astronauts they were working with were very smart cookies. They could ask all the questions that needed to be asked, and I think this was a learning process for McDonnell-Douglas. But we got along very well with the contractor, as we did with North American, once they realized that we were there to help, not to be a problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were some of the milestones in this development of the orbital workshop?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the first [milestone], of course, [was] the recovery from the loss of the micrometeoroid shield and then the progressively longer stays in orbit, I think the milestone was technically the relative sophistication of the spacecraft, the ability to sit at a wardroom table and heat up your food, to have a toilet which was … almost like one on Earth, to have an exercise machine you could pedal away on, and then the innovation of getting their exercise by running around the lockers at the top of the workshop. Technically it was a great step forward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After Skylab, did you have some involvement in the Apollo-Soyuz mission, the docking mechanism or anything?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.42301859367645, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "McDonnell-Douglas had not worked on a manned spacecraft before. I don't think they had had the close on-site presence of NASA personnel before, looking over their shoulder. So that was a little change. There were some improvements in the way the test procedures were written, and Houston and the resident office at Downey were able to help in that respect. They hadn't worked with astronauts before. Of course, the astronauts they were working with were very smart cookies. They could ask all the questions that needed to be asked, and I think this was a learning process for McDonnell-Douglas. But we got along very well with the contractor, as we did with North American, once they realized that we were there to help, not to be a problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were some of the milestones in this development of the orbital workshop?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the first [milestone], of course, [was] the recovery from the loss of the micrometeoroid shield and then the progressively longer stays in orbit, I think the milestone was technically the relative sophistication of the spacecraft, the ability to sit at a wardroom table and heat up your food, to have a toilet which was … almost like one on Earth, to have an exercise machine you could pedal away on, and then the innovation of getting their exercise by running around the lockers at the top of the workshop. Technically it was a great step forward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After Skylab, did you have some involvement in the Apollo-Soyuz mission, the docking mechanism or anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, because—well, other than, as I say, our limited support role in the mission support room for the Apollo-Soyuz. And I say \"we.\" It was primarily North American who were manning the mission support room, and we were there in an oversight capacity, and also I was down at McDonnell-Douglas during the time that [those] command and service modules were being made and tested at Downey. So when I came back, I think it was about to be delivered down to the Cape."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you went into the Shuttle."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 21.58113177075161, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the first [milestone], of course, [was] the recovery from the loss of the micrometeoroid shield and then the progressively longer stays in orbit, I think the milestone was technically the relative sophistication of the spacecraft, the ability to sit at a wardroom table and heat up your food, to have a toilet which was … almost like one on Earth, to have an exercise machine you could pedal away on, and then the innovation of getting their exercise by running around the lockers at the top of the workshop. Technically it was a great step forward."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After Skylab, did you have some involvement in the Apollo-Soyuz mission, the docking mechanism or anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, because—well, other than, as I say, our limited support role in the mission support room for the Apollo-Soyuz. And I say \"we.\" It was primarily North American who were manning the mission support room, and we were there in an oversight capacity, and also I was down at McDonnell-Douglas during the time that [those] command and service modules were being made and tested at Downey. So when I came back, I think it was about to be delivered down to the Cape."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you went into the Shuttle."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[On] to the Shuttle, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you work on any of the preliminary designs for Shuttle?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 22.86792418972401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, because—well, other than, as I say, our limited support role in the mission support room for the Apollo-Soyuz. And I say \"we.\" It was primarily North American who were manning the mission support room, and we were there in an oversight capacity, and also I was down at McDonnell-Douglas during the time that [those] command and service modules were being made and tested at Downey. So when I came back, I think it was about to be delivered down to the Cape."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you went into the Shuttle."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[On] to the Shuttle, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you work on any of the preliminary designs for Shuttle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We followed them, and there were some study contracts that Rockwell had been working on, and again, I think I was down at McDonnell-Douglas when the study contracts were under way. By the time I came back in [19]'72, they were busy on the request for proposals, but we didn't get involved in the evaluation of those. As the design evolved after the contract award, yes, we became familiar with those in the course of the subsystem meetings, which were handled a little differently from the Apollo Program, but they still had meetings, more so at Downey than at Houston, but at both places."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were some of the challenges that you ran into during the development of Shuttle?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 25.4088046552489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[On] to the Shuttle, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you work on any of the preliminary designs for Shuttle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We followed them, and there were some study contracts that Rockwell had been working on, and again, I think I was down at McDonnell-Douglas when the study contracts were under way. By the time I came back in [19]'72, they were busy on the request for proposals, but we didn't get involved in the evaluation of those. As the design evolved after the contract award, yes, we became familiar with those in the course of the subsystem meetings, which were handled a little differently from the Apollo Program, but they still had meetings, more so at Downey than at Houston, but at both places."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were some of the challenges that you ran into during the development of Shuttle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Design was not our forte, of course. We were in kind of a remote mode, helping as we could in how the design affected the way we could test it and build it. The design problems, as I recall, were the aerodynamics of a very swept-back delta coming in through the atmosphere and the heating of the thermal protection system [tiles]. The thermal protection system perhaps was the biggest unknown. They had the capability to test aerodynamically up to fairly high mach numbers, but there was still a gap between the highest mach number that could be tested and the mach number for entry from orbit.\\n\\n So that was a big unknown, and on the command module it was an ablative thermal protection system and not reusable. In other words, you were burning off some of your protection system as you came in. This was designed to be a reusable protection system, and we weren't even sure if the tiles would stay on, or how many tiles you could lose and still come back in. I think those were the two biggest problems that I recall. Again, we were not design authority. We were just helping out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were some of the differences between working on the Apollo Program at North American and then working on Shuttle?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 30.656629236054698, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. The latter part of the time I was in the resident office, we were testing out the Russian docking mechanism with the docking module that NASA and Rockwell designed and put together, and we had some Russians who were working with us on that. So it was from a fabrication—overseeing the fabrication of it and the testing and the mated testing that we got involved in. That was the extent."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you look over your career, you've basically been involved in the space industry since the beginning. What do you consider your most significant accomplishment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, just making it this far, staying alive. No, I'd like to think that, again, it's not just myself, it's as a member of the team, as a member of the acceptance and check-out team, Rockwell-NASA, helping to produce or confirm the satisfactory production of all the orbiters, the\\n\\n Enterprise\\n\\n and the five space orbiters. I think that was the biggest contribution that I and the rest of the team had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you feel was your greatest challenge during your career?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I'm not sure I can pin down any one challenge. In a resident office, you have to be adaptable. You move around. I came out first, as I mentioned, as the resident engineer for guidance, navigation, and control, and then you have to fill the roles that they want you to fill as time changes. For a while I was heading up a quality engineering office, test planning and analysis office, and then systems engineering office. Each one was a little challenge in itself, but I honestly can't say that any one was bigger than the rest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Having seen so much of the progress in space, what do you see for the future of space?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 29.618476928949665, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, just making it this far, staying alive. No, I'd like to think that, again, it's not just myself, it's as a member of the team, as a member of the acceptance and check-out team, Rockwell-NASA, helping to produce or confirm the satisfactory production of all the orbiters, the\\n\\n Enterprise\\n\\n and the five space orbiters. I think that was the biggest contribution that I and the rest of the team had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you feel was your greatest challenge during your career?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I'm not sure I can pin down any one challenge. In a resident office, you have to be adaptable. You move around. I came out first, as I mentioned, as the resident engineer for guidance, navigation, and control, and then you have to fill the roles that they want you to fill as time changes. For a while I was heading up a quality engineering office, test planning and analysis office, and then systems engineering office. Each one was a little challenge in itself, but I honestly can't say that any one was bigger than the rest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Having seen so much of the progress in space, what do you see for the future of space?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it certainly has a significant future. There's no backing off from participating in space exploration. I think a lot more because of the technological advances that we've already seen with that little robot [Sojourner] on the planet Mars, there's going to be perhaps more advancement in unmanned mission than there are in manned missions.\\n\\n But the Space Station has a definite role to perform. If nothing else, it's this wonderful achievement of cooperation between umpteen nations to help design, to build, and to man it. It will be many years before we get a manned mission to Mars, but I think that's inevitable in the long run. We just have to become maybe a lot smarter in how to build vehicles, manned vehicles, [to] go there, and come back. But it's not beyond the realm of possibility."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That basically covers most of my questions. Is there anything that I've left out that you would like to talk about?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:90", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 20.014694455367003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I planned to stay, and I had some weird notion, as youngsters do, of staying a while but then moving on and going to Australia and being in an auxiliary squadron there, and maybe South Africa. My goals were a little pie-in-the-sky at that time, but things worked out differently and, it turns out, for the better. [Tape interruption.]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To tie in with what Rebecca was just talking about and you moving into AVRO and you said at the time you had goals of maybe going on to Australia or South Africa, yet in the end you went off in a completely different direction. Did you ever imagine that you could become involved with the space program or going to the Moon?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No way. [Laughter] You get involved in what you're doing, and aircraft was my thing at that time. I just hadn't a concept for space. We didn't know at the time how useful spacecraft could be, satellites or manned spacecraft. No. It was quite a surprise, and it wouldn't have been my first choice. If I'd had the opportunity to stay and work at AVRO, that would have been my first preference, but we didn't have any choice, and I'm very happy that we didn't have any choice. It worked out for the best."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It did work out well."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Throughout the time that you were working with basically the Apollo Program, were you aware of the pressures or the activities, I guess, that was going on with the Soviet Union? Was it a race to you?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:92", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 20.016327172630003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No way. [Laughter] You get involved in what you're doing, and aircraft was my thing at that time. I just hadn't a concept for space. We didn't know at the time how useful spacecraft could be, satellites or manned spacecraft. No. It was quite a surprise, and it wouldn't have been my first choice. If I'd had the opportunity to stay and work at AVRO, that would have been my first preference, but we didn't have any choice, and I'm very happy that we didn't have any choice. It worked out for the best."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It did work out well."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Throughout the time that you were working with basically the Apollo Program, were you aware of the pressures or the activities, I guess, that was going on with the Soviet Union? Was it a race to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. We were kept informed as well as one can be through magazines like Aviation Week, and even NASA kept us informed as best we knew, but our intelligence wasn't that good of what really was happening in Russia. So we didn't know the problems they were having in getting a launch vehicle that could safely get them up and to the Moon. So, as far as we were concerned, it was quite a race, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Here you were racing them for a large portion of your career with NASA, and then yet later, even though you didn't work directly on it, you saw Apollo-Soyuz come, and then even later you saw the work with the Shuttle-Mir Program and us docking with them. So relations certainly changed over time. Again, would you have imagined, while you were working on the Apollo Program, that someone who was our competitor so severely at one point would then be a partner later?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:110", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.67, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, my emotions are, it's sad to see changes, but changes have happened over the years. You go back to the early automobile manufacturers. There were lots of them, and then they consolidated and merged or just went out of business. It seems to be inevitable in the field of technology that bigger is better as long as you stay efficient. Boeing is going to be our only source of commercial airplanes, big commercial airplanes, and AirBus [Industrie] is the only European source of commercial airplanes. They're it. It's sad, but it seems to be inevitable. And consolidation, as long as it's done efficiently, can keep us a step ahead of the next guy. It's a global economy now, and you have to do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Somewhat along similar lines, the USA [United Space Alliance, Boeing and Lockheed] has taken on a new role with the Space Shuttle. Do you have any views on that and how that affects the way things run? Is that a good way, a bad way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It can be a good way to do things, providing your personnel are well trained. It's another form of NASA backing off a little bit from the close involvement which is their historical way of operating, but I think Boeing (and initially … Rockwell) and Lockheed, they pooled their experienced personnel. It was a good utilization of both companies' trained personnel, and I think it could be—I think it's a good move."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, hopefully we'll see that continue well into the future."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We hope so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mr. Ewart, those early days of NASA, things were going so fast and moving ahead so forward to get so much accomplished, one of the common threads that we've heard from people like you is that teamwork is what made it happen. Do you agree with that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:112", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.3, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It can be a good way to do things, providing your personnel are well trained. It's another form of NASA backing off a little bit from the close involvement which is their historical way of operating, but I think Boeing (and initially … Rockwell) and Lockheed, they pooled their experienced personnel. It was a good utilization of both companies' trained personnel, and I think it could be—I think it's a good move."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, hopefully we'll see that continue well into the future."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We hope so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mr. Ewart, those early days of NASA, things were going so fast and moving ahead so forward to get so much accomplished, one of the common threads that we've heard from people like you is that teamwork is what made it happen. Do you agree with that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You bet. Oh, yes. That's why it's so essential to achieve a level of confidence in both contractor and NASA, contractors, subcontractors, and NASA, that mutual trust and respect and understanding of each one's roles. When you get a team made up of those kind of people with those kind of attitudes, you're pretty likely to succeed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We thank you so much for sharing with us. We really enjoyed it."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00164:114", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 7.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We hope so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mr. Ewart, those early days of NASA, things were going so fast and moving ahead so forward to get so much accomplished, one of the common threads that we've heard from people like you is that teamwork is what made it happen. Do you agree with that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You bet. Oh, yes. That's why it's so essential to achieve a level of confidence in both contractor and NASA, contractors, subcontractors, and NASA, that mutual trust and respect and understanding of each one's roles. When you get a team made up of those kind of people with those kind of attitudes, you're pretty likely to succeed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We thank you so much for sharing with us. We really enjoyed it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's very nice to have you folk here and shoot the breeze."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now that you've retired officially, are you still active, other than going to dinners [unclear] team members?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:1", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.51748356117012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, right now I'm the Milwaukee County Treasurer, Milwaukee County government. It's an elected position. I'm still married to my wife Ann, we were in the Peace Corps together in Chile from 1969 to '71. We went down there together right after we got married. And we have three children, three girls, one of whom also worked in housing construction, self-help housing construction in the United States and with Habitat for Humanity for two years as an AmeriCorps volunteer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. Do you want to elaborate on your interests or anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess that's good enough for now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, now kind of think back to the year before that, you joined the Peace Corps and talk about what life was like then. You can include your childhood, education, or other experiences."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was influenced a lot by John F. Kennedy when I was in high school. He was elected in 1960. He was killed in 1963. I went to college in '65 and I graduated in '69. When Kennedy started the Peace Corps back when I was in high school, I actually sent an application and I was still a high school kid. I was so enthralled by the idea of just going out there and making a difference in the world. They wrote me back a nice letter saying that I should wait until I went on to college and got some skills and abilities that they thought I could contribute. So I was always thinking about joining the Peace Corps all through my college days. And when I met my wife, my future wife Ann, we talked about it and we decided to join together. So we applied back in, like in the fall of 1968 and got accepted to go to Chile in June of '69. We got married about two weeks before that and we went off to Chile."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So basically you heard about it through Kennedy and you wanted to see what you can do to change the world."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:3", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 20.574981734633468, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess that's good enough for now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, now kind of think back to the year before that, you joined the Peace Corps and talk about what life was like then. You can include your childhood, education, or other experiences."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was influenced a lot by John F. Kennedy when I was in high school. He was elected in 1960. He was killed in 1963. I went to college in '65 and I graduated in '69. When Kennedy started the Peace Corps back when I was in high school, I actually sent an application and I was still a high school kid. I was so enthralled by the idea of just going out there and making a difference in the world. They wrote me back a nice letter saying that I should wait until I went on to college and got some skills and abilities that they thought I could contribute. So I was always thinking about joining the Peace Corps all through my college days. And when I met my wife, my future wife Ann, we talked about it and we decided to join together. So we applied back in, like in the fall of 1968 and got accepted to go to Chile in June of '69. We got married about two weeks before that and we went off to Chile."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So basically you heard about it through Kennedy and you wanted to see what you can do to change the world."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I guess so, yeah. Idealistic candidate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a specific country or project in mind when you applied?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.19442414959274, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was influenced a lot by John F. Kennedy when I was in high school. He was elected in 1960. He was killed in 1963. I went to college in '65 and I graduated in '69. When Kennedy started the Peace Corps back when I was in high school, I actually sent an application and I was still a high school kid. I was so enthralled by the idea of just going out there and making a difference in the world. They wrote me back a nice letter saying that I should wait until I went on to college and got some skills and abilities that they thought I could contribute. So I was always thinking about joining the Peace Corps all through my college days. And when I met my wife, my future wife Ann, we talked about it and we decided to join together. So we applied back in, like in the fall of 1968 and got accepted to go to Chile in June of '69. We got married about two weeks before that and we went off to Chile."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So basically you heard about it through Kennedy and you wanted to see what you can do to change the world."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I guess so, yeah. Idealistic candidate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a specific country or project in mind when you applied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really didn't, no. But I was happy when I got assigned to South America, to Chile. It was an exciting time. The 60s, you know, I was very active in some of the anti-war movements and cultural changes, some community organizing. And South America was, all over the world things are going on. In Europe, they had a lot of things going on in China and South America. Chile was one of the few democracies in South America at the time, and I was really looking forward to just going down there and just learning. I was also an international studies major in college, so I'd studied Chile and a lot of South American countries. And I had taken some Spanish so was glad to be building that foundation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What were your friends' and families' reactions when you were accepted? Was there any hesitation or reservations, either on your part or their part?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:7", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.882693499547493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I guess so, yeah. Idealistic candidate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a specific country or project in mind when you applied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really didn't, no. But I was happy when I got assigned to South America, to Chile. It was an exciting time. The 60s, you know, I was very active in some of the anti-war movements and cultural changes, some community organizing. And South America was, all over the world things are going on. In Europe, they had a lot of things going on in China and South America. Chile was one of the few democracies in South America at the time, and I was really looking forward to just going down there and just learning. I was also an international studies major in college, so I'd studied Chile and a lot of South American countries. And I had taken some Spanish so was glad to be building that foundation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What were your friends' and families' reactions when you were accepted? Was there any hesitation or reservations, either on your part or their part?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I guess they all knew I wanted to go, and I think some people thought I was just kind of losing a couple of years of my life. My dad was wondering why I spent two years in the Peace Corps earning nothing and not getting a late start on my career. But other than that, I think people were pretty supportive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I think a lot of people had that same thing. You know, why are you just kissing away two years? But really, it contributed in the long run to a lot more."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 18.758548332830546, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really didn't, no. But I was happy when I got assigned to South America, to Chile. It was an exciting time. The 60s, you know, I was very active in some of the anti-war movements and cultural changes, some community organizing. And South America was, all over the world things are going on. In Europe, they had a lot of things going on in China and South America. Chile was one of the few democracies in South America at the time, and I was really looking forward to just going down there and just learning. I was also an international studies major in college, so I'd studied Chile and a lot of South American countries. And I had taken some Spanish so was glad to be building that foundation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. What were your friends' and families' reactions when you were accepted? Was there any hesitation or reservations, either on your part or their part?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I guess they all knew I wanted to go, and I think some people thought I was just kind of losing a couple of years of my life. My dad was wondering why I spent two years in the Peace Corps earning nothing and not getting a late start on my career. But other than that, I think people were pretty supportive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I think a lot of people had that same thing. You know, why are you just kissing away two years? But really, it contributed in the long run to a lot more."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It really made me who I am and really defined who I am. And it's interesting because, you know, you don't really realize how it shapes you until later when you reflect on and you think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I think you're right there."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 18.620609258700608, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I guess they all knew I wanted to go, and I think some people thought I was just kind of losing a couple of years of my life. My dad was wondering why I spent two years in the Peace Corps earning nothing and not getting a late start on my career. But other than that, I think people were pretty supportive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I think a lot of people had that same thing. You know, why are you just kissing away two years? But really, it contributed in the long run to a lot more."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It really made me who I am and really defined who I am. And it's interesting because, you know, you don't really realize how it shapes you until later when you reflect on and you think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I think you're right there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And you know, it's still the sixties as a Peace Corps is fairly young in the 60s, it is pretty exciting and the whole idea of make a difference, join the Peace Corps. It was really kind of a feeling a lot of people had about the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what project were you invited to join?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.911788065222897, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It really made me who I am and really defined who I am. And it's interesting because, you know, you don't really realize how it shapes you until later when you reflect on and you think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I think you're right there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And you know, it's still the sixties as a Peace Corps is fairly young in the 60s, it is pretty exciting and the whole idea of make a difference, join the Peace Corps. It was really kind of a feeling a lot of people had about the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what project were you invited to join?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, you know, we were invited to join. When we were invited to join the Peace Corps, we got married and we went down there and we were, I think three days in Washington, D.C., and went right down to Chile. All our training was in-country. I had worked construction during my college years. That was my knowledge of construction. They sent us to a Chilean technical school for three months. We're learning their construction techniques and their language and learning how to swear in Spanish, which is essential to a construction site. And I went down. I was assigned to a self-help housing project where people built their own houses right in the outskirts of Santiago. These were projects that were done throughout Chile. I got assigned to near the airport, Pudahuel, on the outskirts of Santiago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you do anything to prepare yourself for leaving the U.S. for two years?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 14.346431183580997, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And you know, it's still the sixties as a Peace Corps is fairly young in the 60s, it is pretty exciting and the whole idea of make a difference, join the Peace Corps. It was really kind of a feeling a lot of people had about the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, what project were you invited to join?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, you know, we were invited to join. When we were invited to join the Peace Corps, we got married and we went down there and we were, I think three days in Washington, D.C., and went right down to Chile. All our training was in-country. I had worked construction during my college years. That was my knowledge of construction. They sent us to a Chilean technical school for three months. We're learning their construction techniques and their language and learning how to swear in Spanish, which is essential to a construction site. And I went down. I was assigned to a self-help housing project where people built their own houses right in the outskirts of Santiago. These were projects that were done throughout Chile. I got assigned to near the airport, Pudahuel, on the outskirts of Santiago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you do anything to prepare yourself for leaving the U.S. for two years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got my wisdom teeth pulled and got all my shots and off we went. No, I didn't really prepare."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. Talk about the training a little. Tell me like where it was, something about the faculty, syllabus, technical studies, the reaction to other people training, language."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.465220520623372, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, they found out when they send single American volunteers to be instructors on the housing sites that sometimes they got girlfriends. But the women were all married there, so it was kind of disruptive to the site. So they said to send married couples so. The woman's job wasn't always as clear as the men's job. I was an instructor teaching people how to build their own houses, and my wife's job was to work with the social worker and work in the school there. Much, much less structured than mine was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh, okay. What was your reaction to the other trainees and, uh, maybe they're going to the selection process?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The selection process was invisible. I have no idea what the selection process was. I applied and I was accepted and I was going. When we got to Washington, D.C., though, they took us on a cruise and we had a couple of social events. And I didn't realize at the time, but they were interviewing us and talking to us, and some people didn't make or were deselected in those three days and weren't sent down to the country. I think there may have been a couple of volunteers during the training process that actually got deselected, but most of us were pretty carefully selected before we went down there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they didn't really deselect many before you left?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Yeah, because there wasn't any time. I mean, it wasn't like you trained for a month in the States and then went down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your group stayed together pretty much."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.850245022914859, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The selection process was invisible. I have no idea what the selection process was. I applied and I was accepted and I was going. When we got to Washington, D.C., though, they took us on a cruise and we had a couple of social events. And I didn't realize at the time, but they were interviewing us and talking to us, and some people didn't make or were deselected in those three days and weren't sent down to the country. I think there may have been a couple of volunteers during the training process that actually got deselected, but most of us were pretty carefully selected before we went down there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they didn't really deselect many before you left?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Yeah, because there wasn't any time. I mean, it wasn't like you trained for a month in the States and then went down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your group stayed together pretty much."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pretty much so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because we lost half of our group. We started out with a hundred and ended up with 50. And we didn't know until two days before we were going and who was going to go and who wasn't."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.389161136572065, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Yeah, because there wasn't any time. I mean, it wasn't like you trained for a month in the States and then went down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your group stayed together pretty much."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pretty much so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because we lost half of our group. We started out with a hundred and ended up with 50. And we didn't know until two days before we were going and who was going to go and who wasn't."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh my god, what a stressful thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Upsetting. We didn't get a chance to go home or anything."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 17.099067929524516, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pretty much so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because we lost half of our group. We started out with a hundred and ended up with 50. And we didn't know until two days before we were going and who was going to go and who wasn't."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh my god, what a stressful thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Upsetting. We didn't get a chance to go home or anything."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where were you trained?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh, Portland, Oregon. Ok. Were there any surprises or disappointments or enjoyments during your training?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.776742143916128, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh my god, what a stressful thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Upsetting. We didn't get a chance to go home or anything."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where were you trained?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh, Portland, Oregon. Ok. Were there any surprises or disappointments or enjoyments during your training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, there were a couple of accusations that we were American spies being trained for Chile and we were in the newspapers a couple of times in Chile. We had instructors there from the Chilean technical school in construction, and there was a lot of good humor there. They taught us how to build, how the building techniques were in Chile and what was being done. It was a good training process. We built a lot of camaraderie among us, got to know each other. Although we could only speak Spanish during the day, so it really inhibited us for the first month or month and a half or so from even getting to know each other because it's such a rudimentary Spanish that it's difficult to even talk to each other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I found that I, you know, we practiced, but until I actually got out in the situation. Because I had a partner so I could always speak English. I had to be into, you know,"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 17.52971349324014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where were you trained?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh, Portland, Oregon. Ok. Were there any surprises or disappointments or enjoyments during your training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, there were a couple of accusations that we were American spies being trained for Chile and we were in the newspapers a couple of times in Chile. We had instructors there from the Chilean technical school in construction, and there was a lot of good humor there. They taught us how to build, how the building techniques were in Chile and what was being done. It was a good training process. We built a lot of camaraderie among us, got to know each other. Although we could only speak Spanish during the day, so it really inhibited us for the first month or month and a half or so from even getting to know each other because it's such a rudimentary Spanish that it's difficult to even talk to each other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I found that I, you know, we practiced, but until I actually got out in the situation. Because I had a partner so I could always speak English. I had to be into, you know,"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember I was in Chile about six months. I was walking on the street and there was a guy on the radio was talking about the weather or something going on. And I thought about what he said, and I thought, oh my god, I understood the guy in the radio. Because you know they talk so fast on the radio and I realized I finally could understand, you know, regular conversation and had a grasp of everything people were saying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, it took me about six months. I had a headache every night, you know?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 18.36634832582238, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, there were a couple of accusations that we were American spies being trained for Chile and we were in the newspapers a couple of times in Chile. We had instructors there from the Chilean technical school in construction, and there was a lot of good humor there. They taught us how to build, how the building techniques were in Chile and what was being done. It was a good training process. We built a lot of camaraderie among us, got to know each other. Although we could only speak Spanish during the day, so it really inhibited us for the first month or month and a half or so from even getting to know each other because it's such a rudimentary Spanish that it's difficult to even talk to each other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I found that I, you know, we practiced, but until I actually got out in the situation. Because I had a partner so I could always speak English. I had to be into, you know,"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember I was in Chile about six months. I was walking on the street and there was a guy on the radio was talking about the weather or something going on. And I thought about what he said, and I thought, oh my god, I understood the guy in the radio. Because you know they talk so fast on the radio and I realized I finally could understand, you know, regular conversation and had a grasp of everything people were saying."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, it took me about six months. I had a headache every night, you know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was six months for me too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Until it kicked in. Ok. What about your initial? Well, you are already in the country, your reaction to the country. What was that like?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.617105205672653, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. What was the role of language? Was that after six months, you kind of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it took a long time and you know, you're always an expatriate. So there's always certain cultural things and children's stories or doing jokes or history or common experiences they have that you don't have. So you're always learning. The jokes are the hardest. But I sat around a lot in the evening with the other instructors cooking clams over fire and just talking and listening. And it was, it was a good experience, but it was a real challenge for me because I'm not good at languages. I never was good at languages, in high school or in college. My SAT scores show I'm poor in foreign languages. So if I hadn't gone there and learned and spoken every day, I probably would've never learned another language and it served me well in my career."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where did the clams come from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Chile is a long, narrow country that has a coastline, you know, from one end to the other. And so they had a lot of seafood, clams, fish, crabs and gosto, which is like a lobster. And they had a lot of lamb and some beef. They had, well, they had two meatless days a week. They call them meatless days, which really meant you couldn't have beef, you could chicken, you know, lamb, fish, everything. But they're trying to get you weaned from meat because they're next to Argentina and the people are so used to eating steaks for breakfast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh yeah. Okay. What about the Peace Corps Peace Corps staff? Did you have much contact with them?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 14.342105192188459, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Chile is a long, narrow country that has a coastline, you know, from one end to the other. And so they had a lot of seafood, clams, fish, crabs and gosto, which is like a lobster. And they had a lot of lamb and some beef. They had, well, they had two meatless days a week. They call them meatless days, which really meant you couldn't have beef, you could chicken, you know, lamb, fish, everything. But they're trying to get you weaned from meat because they're next to Argentina and the people are so used to eating steaks for breakfast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh yeah. Okay. What about the Peace Corps Peace Corps staff? Did you have much contact with them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, we didn't go into town much, but they came out a couple of times just to check on us, and they were very supportive. Anything I needed, they were always there. John Hill, I think, was a director of the country at the time, and the regional director was just a good guy. I always felt like anything I needed, they always were there for us. And the health staff, the nurse there. I just felt I had the support I needed. We also brought our laundry in. They had somebody in town that they set up to do laundry for Peace Corps volunteers, which is really a good thing for us and got the guys into town a little more often."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was in Santiago, so the officer was there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about your work time versus your leisure time?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.755990233483399, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like you never left, right? It was like I never left, 30 years later, and I got to the población and I looked around. I didn't even recognize it because the houses that were built were starter houses. They put a second floor or a back floors, walls or fences. You could have put me in there and I would have never known I was there. It changed so much. But I felt the sense of community there in the sense of friendship, just like we never left. Amazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did life and work change over the months would you say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, at first we were, you know, unusual, you know, having a gringo there. They called us gringos. We lived in the model house at first inside the project and moved out to one of the neighborhoods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you lived in the same kind of house that you were building?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the temporary houses that people were staying in. As we got to know, people, you know, people invite and stopped over more and really became part of the community, part of the community life. You know, Chileans are so generous. I always tried to give something back or give them something but they would end up giving something back to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, you got to get the last thank you in there."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.06221137053711, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, at first we were, you know, unusual, you know, having a gringo there. They called us gringos. We lived in the model house at first inside the project and moved out to one of the neighborhoods."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you lived in the same kind of house that you were building?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the temporary houses that people were staying in. As we got to know, people, you know, people invite and stopped over more and really became part of the community, part of the community life. You know, Chileans are so generous. I always tried to give something back or give them something but they would end up giving something back to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, you got to get the last thank you in there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, right. So when I left, I was giving some things out and they'd come over to the house and bring me something. I don't want to carry those things back to the States, but I didn't know what to do with them all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I lived in two villages and their primary crop was hazelnuts. So each village gave me a huge bag."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:73", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.513568189485678, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, the temporary houses that people were staying in. As we got to know, people, you know, people invite and stopped over more and really became part of the community, part of the community life. You know, Chileans are so generous. I always tried to give something back or give them something but they would end up giving something back to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, you got to get the last thank you in there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, right. So when I left, I was giving some things out and they'd come over to the house and bring me something. I don't want to carry those things back to the States, but I didn't know what to do with them all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I lived in two villages and their primary crop was hazelnuts. So each village gave me a huge bag."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had a camera there and I had to develop, I had an enlarger and a darkroom I set up there, so I was taking a lot of pictures and giving people pictures. And when I came back, you would pull those pictures out, 30 years later."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was the only one with a camera. So nobody else had one of them. So when I came back, I brought as many as I could, but still a lot I couldn't. Had them transferred from slides. Uh, let's see."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.6957631968959, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had a camera there and I had to develop, I had an enlarger and a darkroom I set up there, so I was taking a lot of pictures and giving people pictures. And when I came back, you would pull those pictures out, 30 years later."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was the only one with a camera. So nobody else had one of them. So when I came back, I brought as many as I could, but still a lot I couldn't. Had them transferred from slides. Uh, let's see."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok, what about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Go ahead."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, in those days, you know, now Peace Corps volunteers, I've talked to some new ones. You know, they have internet and they have cell phones and they're in constant communication. We are there, I think we had one or two calls in our village. Wait, you know, one guy had a phone and we wait in line and got the scratchy connection. We called home for a short time and had this little conversation, and that was pretty much it. You know, you sent letters and you waited for letters, that you know, they'd take two or three weeks, you know, it takes to get delivery once they were mailed. So, you know, connection with home was very distant to us. You got a sense of distance also in those days. So you're kind of there, present there. Your mind was there and there was a presence there. I think you probably might not have today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's true. I think my sister got married and I made one call to the U.S. and that was it, but I had to, you know, set it up ahead of time. It was a chore. Ok, what about like at the end of your first year? What was some of the notable events or reflections?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.328625774328778, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok, what about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Go ahead."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, in those days, you know, now Peace Corps volunteers, I've talked to some new ones. You know, they have internet and they have cell phones and they're in constant communication. We are there, I think we had one or two calls in our village. Wait, you know, one guy had a phone and we wait in line and got the scratchy connection. We called home for a short time and had this little conversation, and that was pretty much it. You know, you sent letters and you waited for letters, that you know, they'd take two or three weeks, you know, it takes to get delivery once they were mailed. So, you know, connection with home was very distant to us. You got a sense of distance also in those days. So you're kind of there, present there. Your mind was there and there was a presence there. I think you probably might not have today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's true. I think my sister got married and I made one call to the U.S. and that was it, but I had to, you know, set it up ahead of time. It was a chore. Ok, what about like at the end of your first year? What was some of the notable events or reflections?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My first year?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, the end of the year."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:81", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 17.031806415920865, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, in those days, you know, now Peace Corps volunteers, I've talked to some new ones. You know, they have internet and they have cell phones and they're in constant communication. We are there, I think we had one or two calls in our village. Wait, you know, one guy had a phone and we wait in line and got the scratchy connection. We called home for a short time and had this little conversation, and that was pretty much it. You know, you sent letters and you waited for letters, that you know, they'd take two or three weeks, you know, it takes to get delivery once they were mailed. So, you know, connection with home was very distant to us. You got a sense of distance also in those days. So you're kind of there, present there. Your mind was there and there was a presence there. I think you probably might not have today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's true. I think my sister got married and I made one call to the U.S. and that was it, but I had to, you know, set it up ahead of time. It was a chore. Ok, what about like at the end of your first year? What was some of the notable events or reflections?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My first year?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, the end of the year."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Chile, my first year? Well, we took a trip. In those days you got, what was it, a month vacation?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Forty five days in two years."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 14.47978490657874, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My first year?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, the end of the year."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Chile, my first year? Well, we took a trip. In those days you got, what was it, a month vacation?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Forty five days in two years."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. So I think it was like so we decided just to travel. We went up there. We were stationed in Chile, went to Peru and Bolivia. It was just, it was good to get away in a way, to kind of get a perspective on what you're doing because you're so immersed in it. You're thinking about it all the time. It was a nice break, and we came back, I think we had more of a sense of what we had done so far and where we were going. And also, you're starting your second year. You kind of feel like it's going to go quick. Because the first year you're just you're all trying to become a volunteer. And then the last year, you realizing that, you know, the other new volunteers are coming in and looking at you as a veteran. And you know, it just changes your perspective on things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, you alluded to some health problems. Now were those mostly in training or did they subside once you got to your site?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.466423857414677, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I always thought I'd go back to graduate school and I did. I went back, got a master's of urban studies and then I got a job working full time at the University of Wisconsin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. Is there anything else you can want to tell about your experience there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really think it shaped me a lot. I think. I think I approach people differently. You know, I was a young kid then I really didn't know much about the world. Like in the project, there was a chief in the project who was in charge, very much in charge. And I learned how to work with people. I learned and like, I had the morning group of workers and even though we were doing much better than the afternoon workers, I never bragged about it. You know, I always said, I always asked him for suggestions if I had an idea, I would say, you know, we're trying to do something and we're trying to, you know, figure out how to do this with these young kids and the wheelbarrows are too heavy. And how can we, you know, I knew what I wanted, but I didn't say it. I waited until he said that, I said that's a great idea. And he always liked to work it with me because he came up with all these great ideas and I always gave him credit for it. And that was really, it was a really good experience for me to learn how to work with people in and not how to take credit for it, but to make it so people think that they did it on their own. And that's that was an important thing for me to learn. Some volunteers never learned that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In politics, that's really important too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, you know, if you want something done, you don't really care who gets the credit as long as it gets done."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:101", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 14.962693174905196, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really think it shaped me a lot. I think. I think I approach people differently. You know, I was a young kid then I really didn't know much about the world. Like in the project, there was a chief in the project who was in charge, very much in charge. And I learned how to work with people. I learned and like, I had the morning group of workers and even though we were doing much better than the afternoon workers, I never bragged about it. You know, I always said, I always asked him for suggestions if I had an idea, I would say, you know, we're trying to do something and we're trying to, you know, figure out how to do this with these young kids and the wheelbarrows are too heavy. And how can we, you know, I knew what I wanted, but I didn't say it. I waited until he said that, I said that's a great idea. And he always liked to work it with me because he came up with all these great ideas and I always gave him credit for it. And that was really, it was a really good experience for me to learn how to work with people in and not how to take credit for it, but to make it so people think that they did it on their own. And that's that was an important thing for me to learn. Some volunteers never learned that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In politics, that's really important too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, you know, if you want something done, you don't really care who gets the credit as long as it gets done."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, now we're going to try to evaluate your service in the light of the three goals of the Peace Corps. The first one is to provide technical assistance where requested. How do you feel you did in that area?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:103", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 15.51410352767244, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, you know, if you want something done, you don't really care who gets the credit as long as it gets done."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, now we're going to try to evaluate your service in the light of the three goals of the Peace Corps. The first one is to provide technical assistance where requested. How do you feel you did in that area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, truth be told, there were five of the Chilean instructors and me, and if I wouldn't have been, there might have been six Chilean instructors and they would built the houses, but it would have been a whole different experience. I was the only one who lived on the site and they always said, you know, Dan, you're different than the instructors. You're not afraid to go down there and grab a shovel and work with us. The other instructors are the instructors and we're the workers. And there was this divide and they always wore, you know, wore a sport coat. And, you know, they came and told them how to do it. And I kind of got out my ruler and pen and, you know, helped them drive the sticks in the ground and worked with them, whatever needed to be done. And they, I think they got it. I think they really had an impact on the project. And the team I had in the morning was different that way. We had a good spirit. We're all in it together, and I think people appreciated that. In fact, when I came back, some people told me that. And 30 years later that, you know, you were one of us. You were one of the guys who just whatever it took to get done, you got it done. And it wasn't a divide between us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long was the morning shift as opposed to the, was it an evening or afternoon?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 17.166122808878516, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, we got started more or less around nine o'clock and probably closer to 10:00. It went to maybe two o'clock, you know, right around lunchtime we'd stop. I'd still be around the project. I'd be there in the evening talking to the chief of project or some of the instructors or letting what we'd done, because we're working in teams in the whole project. One of the instructors, you know, was just more of a fragile kind of ego, and he didn't like the fact that I was working at my own. He was kind of the senior instructor and wanted me to be working under him, and I just always let him know what I was doing. And, you know, I think he finally accepted me in terms of not someone's who trying to make him look bad, I'm just trying to make the project look good. And if we look good, he looked good so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what about the, did they work at night or just?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah, they worked in the evening and you know, till dark."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. The second goal is to promote better understanding of the United States. How do you think you did on that one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I did well, you know. When you're a Peace Corps volunteer, it's almost like, I think army veterans, I mean, they don't talk about the war experiences. But if you're not with any other Peace Corps volunteer and try to talk about your project, they'd say, what did you do for those poor natives? How did you save them? You know, and the truth of the matter is I learned more than I taught. And I got more than I gave. I think people were very generous and kind, and the people were very patient with me, with my language. People were very curious. I learned a lot about people. I learned a lot about South America. I learned a lot about life in general from people, and it was a real gift to me in my life. And what was the second one?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To promote better understanding of the U.S."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:117", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 15.115261101781002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, actually it was a Communist Party newspaper. So many people out there with a camera in the taxi and they'd turn around and you turn on the drive and take some pictures of the building, and they're on the front page of the Communist Party newspaper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's spies training and rinconadas. But I never had any problem with that when I was on site. I think that socialists and communists are more curious about me than anything else. And, you know, being a young person in the '60s, you know, we've said a lot in common in terms of trying to make the world a better place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in some ways, it sounds like their government is more of a democracy because there are like four or five different parties that have a part, whereas here, if you're not a Republican or a Democrat, you're nothing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can do that in a smaller country, though I think. You can have the more give and take. In your larger country, for five parties in Washington, it'd just be a standstill."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Of course it is. But okay, what about the third goal is to promote better understanding of other peoples by Americans?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.350290113090002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's spies training and rinconadas. But I never had any problem with that when I was on site. I think that socialists and communists are more curious about me than anything else. And, you know, being a young person in the '60s, you know, we've said a lot in common in terms of trying to make the world a better place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in some ways, it sounds like their government is more of a democracy because there are like four or five different parties that have a part, whereas here, if you're not a Republican or a Democrat, you're nothing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can do that in a smaller country, though I think. You can have the more give and take. In your larger country, for five parties in Washington, it'd just be a standstill."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Of course it is. But okay, what about the third goal is to promote better understanding of other peoples by Americans?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. You know, I did that a lot I think when I first came back. People had me come and talk to classes and I told a lot of stories and people were very curious because I was there when Salvador Allende was elected president. And it's a very interesting time in Chilean history. People had a lot of questions for me when I came back. And I think throughout my life, you know, I really. I think I understand how people are afraid of differences. And like when I was a supervisor, organized block watches, just brought people together on blocks. Hispanics or African Americans and whites and Native Americans and I think, you know, just emphasizing what we have in common, what we're striving, what we want in their lives and the common things we strive for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you did that as a kind of supervisor?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 13.722544570100002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You can do that in a smaller country, though I think. You can have the more give and take. In your larger country, for five parties in Washington, it'd just be a standstill."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Of course it is. But okay, what about the third goal is to promote better understanding of other peoples by Americans?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. You know, I did that a lot I think when I first came back. People had me come and talk to classes and I told a lot of stories and people were very curious because I was there when Salvador Allende was elected president. And it's a very interesting time in Chilean history. People had a lot of questions for me when I came back. And I think throughout my life, you know, I really. I think I understand how people are afraid of differences. And like when I was a supervisor, organized block watches, just brought people together on blocks. Hispanics or African Americans and whites and Native Americans and I think, you know, just emphasizing what we have in common, what we're striving, what we want in their lives and the common things we strive for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you did that as a kind of supervisor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I didn't realize that."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:123", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.691716189000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. You know, I did that a lot I think when I first came back. People had me come and talk to classes and I told a lot of stories and people were very curious because I was there when Salvador Allende was elected president. And it's a very interesting time in Chilean history. People had a lot of questions for me when I came back. And I think throughout my life, you know, I really. I think I understand how people are afraid of differences. And like when I was a supervisor, organized block watches, just brought people together on blocks. Hispanics or African Americans and whites and Native Americans and I think, you know, just emphasizing what we have in common, what we're striving, what we want in their lives and the common things we strive for."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you did that as a kind of supervisor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I didn't realize that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think you get a sense that America still has a message to give to the world, you know, like it's almost like manifest destiny. But you know, we in this country can live together, different languages, different religions, different races, different cultures, side by side. You know, with the Croatians, the Serbians living next to each other and Jews and Arabs. And it's we don't thrive in spite of it. We thrive because of it. It seems more when you change your ideas and more of a dynamic and the world needs that message. You know, they need to see an African American president. We need to see that we can live with our differences and prosper. And that not be something that separates us. It's a message the world needs to have. It's the only way the world will survive. And I think America is a good example of that to the rest of the world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. Through the years, have you continued any kind of involvement with your country of service and contact with people from that country?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:125", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.435240210000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I didn't realize that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think you get a sense that America still has a message to give to the world, you know, like it's almost like manifest destiny. But you know, we in this country can live together, different languages, different religions, different races, different cultures, side by side. You know, with the Croatians, the Serbians living next to each other and Jews and Arabs. And it's we don't thrive in spite of it. We thrive because of it. It seems more when you change your ideas and more of a dynamic and the world needs that message. You know, they need to see an African American president. We need to see that we can live with our differences and prosper. And that not be something that separates us. It's a message the world needs to have. It's the only way the world will survive. And I think America is a good example of that to the rest of the world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. Through the years, have you continued any kind of involvement with your country of service and contact with people from that country?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We've gone back twice. It's a long way to go, to Chile, Santiago. We took our kids back one time and they got to meet the villagers. They all went to Spanish immersion schools, our kids, so they all learned Spanish, which is something I think we took with us in Peace Corps, wanting our children to learn another language. Cause the language and culture and understanding are so tied together. You know, we've been part of the Returned Peace Corps Volunteers on and off, more active sometimes some years than others. I've been active in Amnesty International, some organizations like that, you know, trying to make a difference in the world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you been involved with the third goal activities, trying to promote better understanding? I guess you sort of have, like you gave a lot of talks. Did you have like slide shows?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:127", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.150266900000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think you get a sense that America still has a message to give to the world, you know, like it's almost like manifest destiny. But you know, we in this country can live together, different languages, different religions, different races, different cultures, side by side. You know, with the Croatians, the Serbians living next to each other and Jews and Arabs. And it's we don't thrive in spite of it. We thrive because of it. It seems more when you change your ideas and more of a dynamic and the world needs that message. You know, they need to see an African American president. We need to see that we can live with our differences and prosper. And that not be something that separates us. It's a message the world needs to have. It's the only way the world will survive. And I think America is a good example of that to the rest of the world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. Through the years, have you continued any kind of involvement with your country of service and contact with people from that country?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We've gone back twice. It's a long way to go, to Chile, Santiago. We took our kids back one time and they got to meet the villagers. They all went to Spanish immersion schools, our kids, so they all learned Spanish, which is something I think we took with us in Peace Corps, wanting our children to learn another language. Cause the language and culture and understanding are so tied together. You know, we've been part of the Returned Peace Corps Volunteers on and off, more active sometimes some years than others. I've been active in Amnesty International, some organizations like that, you know, trying to make a difference in the world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you been involved with the third goal activities, trying to promote better understanding? I guess you sort of have, like you gave a lot of talks. Did you have like slide shows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never had slideshows, I had pictures. I haven't done that in several years now, on the anniversary of the Peace Corps, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We're now in the 50th anniversary."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:129", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.944741000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We've gone back twice. It's a long way to go, to Chile, Santiago. We took our kids back one time and they got to meet the villagers. They all went to Spanish immersion schools, our kids, so they all learned Spanish, which is something I think we took with us in Peace Corps, wanting our children to learn another language. Cause the language and culture and understanding are so tied together. You know, we've been part of the Returned Peace Corps Volunteers on and off, more active sometimes some years than others. I've been active in Amnesty International, some organizations like that, you know, trying to make a difference in the world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you been involved with the third goal activities, trying to promote better understanding? I guess you sort of have, like you gave a lot of talks. Did you have like slide shows?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never had slideshows, I had pictures. I haven't done that in several years now, on the anniversary of the Peace Corps, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We're now in the 50th anniversary."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Are you going to go?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think I am, yeah."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:131", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.827490000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never had slideshows, I had pictures. I haven't done that in several years now, on the anniversary of the Peace Corps, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We're now in the 50th anniversary."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Are you going to go?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think I am, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do you know when that is?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think it's like the 22nd to the 25th of September."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:133", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.5861, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Are you going to go?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think I am, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do you know when that is?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think it's like the 22nd to the 25th of September."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, September. I see Shriver just died too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah. I guess we're going to have a sendoff March 2, you know, for the new volunteers going over at that time. It's going to be at the Urban Ecology."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:135", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 8.429, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do you know when that is?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think it's like the 22nd to the 25th of September."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, September. I see Shriver just died too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah. I guess we're going to have a sendoff March 2, you know, for the new volunteers going over at that time. It's going to be at the Urban Ecology."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, really? Is there a group going down from Milwaukee to Washington, or just individuals?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think people are trying to do it through their country of service more, you know? But yeah, there are quite a few people that are planning on going."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:137", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 3.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, September. I see Shriver just died too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah. I guess we're going to have a sendoff March 2, you know, for the new volunteers going over at that time. It's going to be at the Urban Ecology."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, really? Is there a group going down from Milwaukee to Washington, or just individuals?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think people are trying to do it through their country of service more, you know? But yeah, there are quite a few people that are planning on going."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I ran into Mike Farmer the other day at Marquette University. He's still around. But we did, we did a lot in our Peace Corps group. When the war in Central America was going on, we tried to not get the Peace Corps volunteers were used as pawns in that old Cold War battle ground."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let's see. What do you think the Peace Corps had, what kind of an effect do you think it had on you? You know, as far as yourself, your career plans, long term."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:143", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it really had an impact on me in the long term because you realize that if you just. Even lower middle class living better than 90 percent people in the world. So I think I've been, I've lived fairly simple in that way. You realize, you know, just appreciate what you have and don't try to. You realize that money isn't everything and material goods aren't everything. I think my values are different. What I do with my life is more important than what I get. I think I never had a goal to make a lot of money, but to try to make a difference in the world. And I've been in public service my whole life, you know, a VISTA volunteer and a Peace Corps volunteer. I was head of a nonprofit inner-city government project. I did campus community relations at UWM. I worked a lot for Milwaukee County in various roles, and lately even held elective office as a county supervisor for 12 years and county treasurer for six. So I think I just tried to serve the public good in everything I've done. I think that's really, I got that from, maybe that's why I would join the Peace Corps in the first place. Or maybe from the Peace Corps, I took a lot from the Peace Corps and really shaped my life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I think it did for me too. Actually, when I got back, I joined the Teacher Corps."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same thing, yeah. I was involved in the Teacher Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "With Frank Vissay?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, there was one. I did this in Detroit, but there was one here in Milwaukee."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:145", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Same thing, yeah. I was involved in the Teacher Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "With Frank Vissay?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, there was one. I did this in Detroit, but there was one here in Milwaukee."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I helped organize it here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, is that right?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:147", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "With Frank Vissay?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, there was one. I did this in Detroit, but there was one here in Milwaukee."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I helped organize it here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, is that right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was on the committee that reviewed the first applicants."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. Are there any things, words of wisdom or anything you'd like to add to this interview and that you'd like to leave with people who might be listening to it?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:149", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I helped organize it here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, is that right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was on the committee that reviewed the first applicants."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. Are there any things, words of wisdom or anything you'd like to add to this interview and that you'd like to leave with people who might be listening to it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I highly recommend it. I think it's a real soulful thing to do if you take it and you do it right. I think it can really make a difference in your life. I'm not sure how much difference it made. I think it did when I went back and saw it. You realized, you know, what you did and how you lived and went. What you did on the way to doing other things was really the most important things we did. And actually, people feel different about Americans when they actually know one. And they realize we're not just, we do a lot of things that Americans aren't aware of in this country and overseas, that people interpret the wrong way. Or sometimes the right way, if it's the wrong thing.\n\nBut I think I think it really helps. I think it's helped a lot. It helps in the world that people live someplace else and you get to experience Americans and then we come back and we're able to share that experience. You know, when you see those world hunger things that are collecting money for orphans, you know, they're real people to you. They're not just pictures. You realize, you know, you knew kids like that and you knew families like that. You can't save the world, but you can just be who you are in the world and try to make a difference with your presence there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, I think that's well stated. I guess unless you have anything, anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00256:151", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was on the committee that reviewed the first applicants."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. Are there any things, words of wisdom or anything you'd like to add to this interview and that you'd like to leave with people who might be listening to it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I highly recommend it. I think it's a real soulful thing to do if you take it and you do it right. I think it can really make a difference in your life. I'm not sure how much difference it made. I think it did when I went back and saw it. You realized, you know, what you did and how you lived and went. What you did on the way to doing other things was really the most important things we did. And actually, people feel different about Americans when they actually know one. And they realize we're not just, we do a lot of things that Americans aren't aware of in this country and overseas, that people interpret the wrong way. Or sometimes the right way, if it's the wrong thing.\n\nBut I think I think it really helps. I think it's helped a lot. It helps in the world that people live someplace else and you get to experience Americans and then we come back and we're able to share that experience. You know, when you see those world hunger things that are collecting money for orphans, you know, they're real people to you. They're not just pictures. You realize, you know, you knew kids like that and you knew families like that. You can't save the world, but you can just be who you are in the world and try to make a difference with your presence there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, I think that's well stated. I guess unless you have anything, anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that's pretty much it, so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you for doing this."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:1", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.119118055608142, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I went to school at Mississippi State College for Women. It is now Mississippi University for Women. That is in Columbus, Mississippi. I majored in mathematics and had planned to be math teacher. That’s about all you did back then. Actually, I had almost signed a contract when the NACA came down, recruiting mathematicians. They had done that for a number of years. I really hadn’t thought about it, but when they came down, I decided that I would give it a try. One reason was my highest job offer for teaching was about $1800 a year, and NACA offered me $3100. I thought that was pretty good, so I thought I would come up here for a year and then go back to Mississippi."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell us about coming up here. That was a distance from Mississippi."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That certainly was a distance. It was my first plane ride. Actually, I didn’t decided to do this until almost graduation, so in July—I think it was July 11—I came up. One other girl from MSCW came up. We weren’t really good friends, but we knew each other. We were in the same graduating class. I came up by myself. I flew up. I had never flown in an airplane before. I landed in Norfolk [Virginia], and somebody met me there. We came over from Norfolk. Of course, that was during the Korean War, and Norfolk was just filled with sailors. We had to come over on the ferry, because we didn’t have tunnels or any other way to get across Hampton Roads."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you stay at first?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, the only apartments they had around were on Kecoughtan Road. I stayed in South Hampton Apartments and got an apartment there because a friend—I think she had MS [Multiple Sclerosis] and was away at the hospital in Washington State, I guess, for about three or four months—so we stayed there until we really found a place. I’m surprised that I came up. I didn’t have an automobile. I didn’t know where I was going to stay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was quite a leap of faith."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:3", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.576797839564602, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That certainly was a distance. It was my first plane ride. Actually, I didn’t decided to do this until almost graduation, so in July—I think it was July 11—I came up. One other girl from MSCW came up. We weren’t really good friends, but we knew each other. We were in the same graduating class. I came up by myself. I flew up. I had never flown in an airplane before. I landed in Norfolk [Virginia], and somebody met me there. We came over from Norfolk. Of course, that was during the Korean War, and Norfolk was just filled with sailors. We had to come over on the ferry, because we didn’t have tunnels or any other way to get across Hampton Roads."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you stay at first?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, the only apartments they had around were on Kecoughtan Road. I stayed in South Hampton Apartments and got an apartment there because a friend—I think she had MS [Multiple Sclerosis] and was away at the hospital in Washington State, I guess, for about three or four months—so we stayed there until we really found a place. I’m surprised that I came up. I didn’t have an automobile. I didn’t know where I was going to stay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was quite a leap of faith."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is, for a little Mississippi girl."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have any idea what to expect at NACA?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.19644204396067, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, the only apartments they had around were on Kecoughtan Road. I stayed in South Hampton Apartments and got an apartment there because a friend—I think she had MS [Multiple Sclerosis] and was away at the hospital in Washington State, I guess, for about three or four months—so we stayed there until we really found a place. I’m surprised that I came up. I didn’t have an automobile. I didn’t know where I was going to stay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was quite a leap of faith."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is, for a little Mississippi girl."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have any idea what to expect at NACA?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I really didn’t, because I didn’t know the two girls that were already up here well. I just knew that they were working for NACA. I just thought it would be something different. I thought, well, this sounds like fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did your family think about it?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:7", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 17.996046715511852, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It is, for a little Mississippi girl."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have any idea what to expect at NACA?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I really didn’t, because I didn’t know the two girls that were already up here well. I just knew that they were working for NACA. I just thought it would be something different. I thought, well, this sounds like fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did your family think about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They let me do it. I don’t think they were too happy about it. I think they were a little uneasy about it, but they said, “Fine.” Of course, they did expect me to come back home, and I really didn’t, except for visits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk about those first days when you first got here."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.551163017235389, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I really didn’t, because I didn’t know the two girls that were already up here well. I just knew that they were working for NACA. I just thought it would be something different. I thought, well, this sounds like fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did your family think about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They let me do it. I don’t think they were too happy about it. I think they were a little uneasy about it, but they said, “Fine.” Of course, they did expect me to come back home, and I really didn’t, except for visits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk about those first days when you first got here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t remember exactly at first, except I do know that, on the first day we moved into this apartment, and I assume it was the first day I was here, but I don’t know; South Hampton was just kind of like a college campus at that time. It was so filled with young people—young, single people. There were some married people there, but a lot of them were just young people coming in. I met quite a few people. One fellow came over on the pretense of borrowing a card table. He lived across the street. He knew where I was going to work. I was assigned to work at 19-Foot [Pressure] Tunnel. That was just next door to where he worked, so he offered to give me a ride to work. If that hadn’t happened, I don’t know how I would have gotten to work. Anyway, he did offer. He said they had one place in their carpool, so I rode with him. Two years later, I married him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have to contribute for these carpools, since you didn’t have a car?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.16795890803932, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They let me do it. I don’t think they were too happy about it. I think they were a little uneasy about it, but they said, “Fine.” Of course, they did expect me to come back home, and I really didn’t, except for visits."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk about those first days when you first got here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t remember exactly at first, except I do know that, on the first day we moved into this apartment, and I assume it was the first day I was here, but I don’t know; South Hampton was just kind of like a college campus at that time. It was so filled with young people—young, single people. There were some married people there, but a lot of them were just young people coming in. I met quite a few people. One fellow came over on the pretense of borrowing a card table. He lived across the street. He knew where I was going to work. I was assigned to work at 19-Foot [Pressure] Tunnel. That was just next door to where he worked, so he offered to give me a ride to work. If that hadn’t happened, I don’t know how I would have gotten to work. Anyway, he did offer. He said they had one place in their carpool, so I rode with him. Two years later, I married him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have to contribute for these carpools, since you didn’t have a car?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I paid so much a week. The guys would take turns driving. I have forgotten what I paid but something for gasoline. I think there were five of us. We worked on the East side. Most people were on the West side, but we were on the East—the Air Force side. That’s where I worked the whole time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were in that 19-Foot Tunnel?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.853287675599244, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can’t remember exactly at first, except I do know that, on the first day we moved into this apartment, and I assume it was the first day I was here, but I don’t know; South Hampton was just kind of like a college campus at that time. It was so filled with young people—young, single people. There were some married people there, but a lot of them were just young people coming in. I met quite a few people. One fellow came over on the pretense of borrowing a card table. He lived across the street. He knew where I was going to work. I was assigned to work at 19-Foot [Pressure] Tunnel. That was just next door to where he worked, so he offered to give me a ride to work. If that hadn’t happened, I don’t know how I would have gotten to work. Anyway, he did offer. He said they had one place in their carpool, so I rode with him. Two years later, I married him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have to contribute for these carpools, since you didn’t have a car?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I paid so much a week. The guys would take turns driving. I have forgotten what I paid but something for gasoline. I think there were five of us. We worked on the East side. Most people were on the West side, but we were on the East—the Air Force side. That’s where I worked the whole time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were in that 19-Foot Tunnel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The 19-Foot Tunnel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you considered a mathematician or a computer?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.61476408399916, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I paid so much a week. The guys would take turns driving. I have forgotten what I paid but something for gasoline. I think there were five of us. We worked on the East side. Most people were on the West side, but we were on the East—the Air Force side. That’s where I worked the whole time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were in that 19-Foot Tunnel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The 19-Foot Tunnel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you considered a mathematician or a computer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I came up on a temporary assignment. When they came down recruiting, we were recruited as a temporary assignment, so I didn’t have to take the civil service exam or anything like that. I was actually on Social Security for a little while. I was not considered a mathematician. I wasn’t called a mathematician. When I got my civil service rating or whatever, I was considered a mathematician."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, when you first came in, were you a computer?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 19.571960093332397, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The 19-Foot Tunnel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you considered a mathematician or a computer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I came up on a temporary assignment. When they came down recruiting, we were recruited as a temporary assignment, so I didn’t have to take the civil service exam or anything like that. I was actually on Social Security for a little while. I was not considered a mathematician. I wasn’t called a mathematician. When I got my civil service rating or whatever, I was considered a mathematician."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, when you first came in, were you a computer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess I was a computer, and I continued to be a computer for a good while. I got a raise along with the title of mathematician rather than whatever it was at first. I guess it was a computer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The 19-Foot Tunnel—was that like a pool of computers?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.297070696741699, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. A number of them went there. Of course, the computers split up, too. I was offered a job being a head computer somewhere, but I was married then and was pregnant, so decided I would just stop work. I stayed in touch with NASA, because my husband worked there for 46 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there a lot of women that were getting married at that time and having their children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I guess I had three or four different roommates. As one would get married, somebody else would move in. The apartments were at a premium. The only way that I got an apartment when my friend came back from her stay in Washington State, one of the engineers had built a house; he put a good word in for us, and we were able to get an apartment. So, as people got married, you would have different roommates. They were just young girls out of college."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember anything specific about any of the projects you worked on? I know you said that, once you became a mathematician, at least—maybe after that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really don’t. I tried. When I read this, I tried to think, and I really don’t remember what I worked on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We were wondering if they even told you, at that time, what you were working on."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 10.33007855193522, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I guess I had three or four different roommates. As one would get married, somebody else would move in. The apartments were at a premium. The only way that I got an apartment when my friend came back from her stay in Washington State, one of the engineers had built a house; he put a good word in for us, and we were able to get an apartment. So, as people got married, you would have different roommates. They were just young girls out of college."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember anything specific about any of the projects you worked on? I know you said that, once you became a mathematician, at least—maybe after that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really don’t. I tried. When I read this, I tried to think, and I really don’t remember what I worked on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We were wondering if they even told you, at that time, what you were working on."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they did, sort of. I don’t know that we knew what they found with the data. We had different numbers down, but I don’t think we really had any concept of what it was. I think they were just numbers. I do remember certain equations for certain things. I remember them telling you that, but we really had very little knowledge of what was going on. I think we were told sometimes what plane we were working on.\\n\\n Sometimes, on really hot days, we would go down to the tunnel, because maybe it was air-conditioned. Maybe, it was just cooler, but that was the only time we ever really saw the tunnel working."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had mentioned that your boss was so hard on you, as opposed to the engineers. Did you find that generally? Did other people that you talked to experience the same type of treatment?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.054977437496872, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I think some of them did. They had noticed it. For some reason, my boss was very strict. He worked his engineers hard, too, I’m sure, but he was very strict. I would talk to my roommates about it. We had a thirty-minute break for lunch. We weren’t supposed to come back thirty-one minutes after or thirty-two minutes after. He was very, very strict about that. As I say, we really didn’t have much break time. I remember we had a meeting, and he said, “If you want to go down and get a Coke, you can do that, but I expect you to bring it back up and continue your work.”\\n\\n We didn’t see that with the engineers at all. They would go around and sit on each other’s tables and talk and visit. Of course, I guess, they were doing brain work that we didn’t know about. I don’t know, but everybody in the office kind of complained about it. It wasn’t the best office to work in, I would say, for a girl."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Other than being hot, were there separate restroom facilities? Was it planned that females would be working in those buildings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had a restroom with salt tablets right on the outside. When it was so hot and you were perspiring, you were supposed to eat a salt tablet with your water. I guess that’s the worst thing you could do, really, but that’s what they told us to do. I remember doing that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To keep you from dehydrating."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess, so you would drink water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They were metal buildings, weren’t they?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.172197152774302, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had a restroom with salt tablets right on the outside. When it was so hot and you were perspiring, you were supposed to eat a salt tablet with your water. I guess that’s the worst thing you could do, really, but that’s what they told us to do. I remember doing that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To keep you from dehydrating."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess, so you would drink water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They were metal buildings, weren’t they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Brick and metal. We’d be right by the windows, with the sun shining in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about dress code?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:43", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.413552391971447, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess, so you would drink water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They were metal buildings, weren’t they?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Brick and metal. We’d be right by the windows, with the sun shining in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about dress code?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We all wore dresses. Nobody wore slacks. I think, in some places, if there were tunnel girls there, they wore slacks, but we all wore dresses. So, we would let that fan just blow right on our legs. That’s just one of the few things that I remember—just being so hot. Your hands would be wet, and you had to write the data down. It would be so hot. I make it sound terrible, and it really wasn’t. We had fun, too, but we did work. It wasn’t the most challenging work you could do, but it was work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you had fun, too. I’m sure, with everyone being so young at that time."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:45", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 11.570613768857163, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Brick and metal. We’d be right by the windows, with the sun shining in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about dress code?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We all wore dresses. Nobody wore slacks. I think, in some places, if there were tunnel girls there, they wore slacks, but we all wore dresses. So, we would let that fan just blow right on our legs. That’s just one of the few things that I remember—just being so hot. Your hands would be wet, and you had to write the data down. It would be so hot. I make it sound terrible, and it really wasn’t. We had fun, too, but we did work. It wasn’t the most challenging work you could do, but it was work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you had fun, too. I’m sure, with everyone being so young at that time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had lots of things in the Activities Building. We had dances quite frequently and oyster roasts and things like this. It was just very similar to a college campus, really, and everybody seemed to know people from other tunnels. There was a good bit of social interacting on and off Langley. We had a nice time. We got to know each other, the people who lived in the apartments, and this sort of thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the community itself in Hampton and that area as far as the people that were here and had been here for generations and then this influx? I know that a lot of times they called them the ‘NACA-nuts.’"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 9.52290418761907, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We all wore dresses. Nobody wore slacks. I think, in some places, if there were tunnel girls there, they wore slacks, but we all wore dresses. So, we would let that fan just blow right on our legs. That’s just one of the few things that I remember—just being so hot. Your hands would be wet, and you had to write the data down. It would be so hot. I make it sound terrible, and it really wasn’t. We had fun, too, but we did work. It wasn’t the most challenging work you could do, but it was work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you had fun, too. I’m sure, with everyone being so young at that time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had lots of things in the Activities Building. We had dances quite frequently and oyster roasts and things like this. It was just very similar to a college campus, really, and everybody seemed to know people from other tunnels. There was a good bit of social interacting on and off Langley. We had a nice time. We got to know each other, the people who lived in the apartments, and this sort of thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the community itself in Hampton and that area as far as the people that were here and had been here for generations and then this influx? I know that a lot of times they called them the ‘NACA-nuts.’"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t have a lot of interaction with the community. I did go to the Methodist Church in Hampton. I guess for shopping we would go to Newport News. Most of the workers were in just three little groups of apartments there, right on Kecoughtan Road, because there were no other apartments available. Now, when my husband came, he stayed in a boardinghouse, way up in the attic, so I know that was hot. But, it was on the water. It was on Chesapeake Boulevard. They had to stay there until they could get an apartment. You just didn’t have too many choices back then as to where you could live."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did your husband come?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 8.358782430687853, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had lots of things in the Activities Building. We had dances quite frequently and oyster roasts and things like this. It was just very similar to a college campus, really, and everybody seemed to know people from other tunnels. There was a good bit of social interacting on and off Langley. We had a nice time. We got to know each other, the people who lived in the apartments, and this sort of thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the community itself in Hampton and that area as far as the people that were here and had been here for generations and then this influx? I know that a lot of times they called them the ‘NACA-nuts.’"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t have a lot of interaction with the community. I did go to the Methodist Church in Hampton. I guess for shopping we would go to Newport News. Most of the workers were in just three little groups of apartments there, right on Kecoughtan Road, because there were no other apartments available. Now, when my husband came, he stayed in a boardinghouse, way up in the attic, so I know that was hot. But, it was on the water. It was on Chesapeake Boulevard. They had to stay there until they could get an apartment. You just didn’t have too many choices back then as to where you could live."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did your husband come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He came in ’44. He came seven years before I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did he have a deferment from the military? I think they allowed them to join the military, but then they assigned them here."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.843091589653169, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t have a lot of interaction with the community. I did go to the Methodist Church in Hampton. I guess for shopping we would go to Newport News. Most of the workers were in just three little groups of apartments there, right on Kecoughtan Road, because there were no other apartments available. Now, when my husband came, he stayed in a boardinghouse, way up in the attic, so I know that was hot. But, it was on the water. It was on Chesapeake Boulevard. They had to stay there until they could get an apartment. You just didn’t have too many choices back then as to where you could live."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did your husband come?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He came in ’44. He came seven years before I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did he have a deferment from the military? I think they allowed them to join the military, but then they assigned them here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He had a deferment, and then, right after he got here, he was called. I guess they went to Richmond [Virginia], and most of them came back to NACA, but a few of them were sent on to Maryland. He was one of the few that were sent to Maryland. He went through the haircut and all of the shots and all of this, that, and the other, and didn’t know what in the world had happened, because he had been promised a deferment if he came up here to work.\\n\\n Anyway, he had active duty for three days, and then they called him out and told him that he was in the reserves and had been sent to NACA. We didn’t even know until just recently that he stayed in the reserve for three years until after the war, and then he got an honorable discharge. He never considered himself a veteran, but I guess something happened that some of them didn’t get deferred right away. He did come back to his old job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did he do?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.270101766281299, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He came in ’44. He came seven years before I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did he have a deferment from the military? I think they allowed them to join the military, but then they assigned them here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He had a deferment, and then, right after he got here, he was called. I guess they went to Richmond [Virginia], and most of them came back to NACA, but a few of them were sent on to Maryland. He was one of the few that were sent to Maryland. He went through the haircut and all of the shots and all of this, that, and the other, and didn’t know what in the world had happened, because he had been promised a deferment if he came up here to work.\\n\\n Anyway, he had active duty for three days, and then they called him out and told him that he was in the reserves and had been sent to NACA. We didn’t even know until just recently that he stayed in the reserve for three years until after the war, and then he got an honorable discharge. He never considered himself a veteran, but I guess something happened that some of them didn’t get deferred right away. He did come back to his old job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did he do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was an aeronautical engineer in the Full-Scale Tunnel. He stayed in the same place for 46 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s a long career."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.744557518090332, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He had a deferment, and then, right after he got here, he was called. I guess they went to Richmond [Virginia], and most of them came back to NACA, but a few of them were sent on to Maryland. He was one of the few that were sent to Maryland. He went through the haircut and all of the shots and all of this, that, and the other, and didn’t know what in the world had happened, because he had been promised a deferment if he came up here to work.\\n\\n Anyway, he had active duty for three days, and then they called him out and told him that he was in the reserves and had been sent to NACA. We didn’t even know until just recently that he stayed in the reserve for three years until after the war, and then he got an honorable discharge. He never considered himself a veteran, but I guess something happened that some of them didn’t get deferred right away. He did come back to his old job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did he do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was an aeronautical engineer in the Full-Scale Tunnel. He stayed in the same place for 46 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s a long career."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a long time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you meet?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.2717305756559245, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was an aeronautical engineer in the Full-Scale Tunnel. He stayed in the same place for 46 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s a long career."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a long time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you meet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We met just when he—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s right. He was the one who was going to give you a ride."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.8574784173954715, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a long time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you meet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We met just when he—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s right. He was the one who was going to give you a ride."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To borrow the card table. Then, I rode in his carpool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s a good way to meet."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.397198241550524, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We met just when he—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s right. He was the one who was going to give you a ride."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To borrow the card table. Then, I rode in his carpool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s a good way to meet."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Somebody asked me later, “Did you date anybody else?” I did. I dated other people, and he dated other people. We dated for quite a while. I was a person who was going to work and didn’t want to get married at all. I had no desire to get married any time soon. Then, I got married almost two years to the day after I came up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some of the other ladies we’ve talked to kind of have similar stories; the math major, and they thought they would end up teaching, and then they were here, and they would meet their husbands."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:63", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.996886935056137, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To borrow the card table. Then, I rode in his carpool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s a good way to meet."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Somebody asked me later, “Did you date anybody else?” I did. I dated other people, and he dated other people. We dated for quite a while. I was a person who was going to work and didn’t want to get married at all. I had no desire to get married any time soon. Then, I got married almost two years to the day after I came up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some of the other ladies we’ve talked to kind of have similar stories; the math major, and they thought they would end up teaching, and then they were here, and they would meet their husbands."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Teaching was about all you did back then. If you majored in anything, you probably ended up being a teacher, or secretary, or nurse, or something. I always wanted to teach, so I did teach later on, after my kids went to college. That’s just about all I did. I can’t think of anything outstanding that I did at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we talk to a lot of women that worked during that time period, they say the same thing, but just having a college degree and working in a technical field during that time period—that was special."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:65", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.5520965945068195, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Somebody asked me later, “Did you date anybody else?” I did. I dated other people, and he dated other people. We dated for quite a while. I was a person who was going to work and didn’t want to get married at all. I had no desire to get married any time soon. Then, I got married almost two years to the day after I came up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some of the other ladies we’ve talked to kind of have similar stories; the math major, and they thought they would end up teaching, and then they were here, and they would meet their husbands."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Teaching was about all you did back then. If you majored in anything, you probably ended up being a teacher, or secretary, or nurse, or something. I always wanted to teach, so I did teach later on, after my kids went to college. That’s just about all I did. I can’t think of anything outstanding that I did at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we talk to a lot of women that worked during that time period, they say the same thing, but just having a college degree and working in a technical field during that time period—that was special."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I guess so. I assume so. As I told you, they had said that they wanted just high school graduates, because that was the type of work that they did. I was so surprised to come into an office and they resented your being there right at first. I had been four years at an all-girls’ college, so I thought I knew all about girls. I realized that you did have little cliques. I was so surprised, but, that worked out in a short time, and there was no problem at all. It was just that they let certain people do certain things. Some of the girls were not happy that they didn’t have replacements."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that engineers were in that 19-Foot Tunnel. Were there any men that were doing mathematical work or computer work at all?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.168996216118688, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Teaching was about all you did back then. If you majored in anything, you probably ended up being a teacher, or secretary, or nurse, or something. I always wanted to teach, so I did teach later on, after my kids went to college. That’s just about all I did. I can’t think of anything outstanding that I did at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When we talk to a lot of women that worked during that time period, they say the same thing, but just having a college degree and working in a technical field during that time period—that was special."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I guess so. I assume so. As I told you, they had said that they wanted just high school graduates, because that was the type of work that they did. I was so surprised to come into an office and they resented your being there right at first. I had been four years at an all-girls’ college, so I thought I knew all about girls. I realized that you did have little cliques. I was so surprised, but, that worked out in a short time, and there was no problem at all. It was just that they let certain people do certain things. Some of the girls were not happy that they didn’t have replacements."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that engineers were in that 19-Foot Tunnel. Were there any men that were doing mathematical work or computer work at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. They were all girls. Some of them had been there for quite a while."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You quit working in ’56, but your husband was still working. You said he stayed in that Full-Scale Tunnel the whole time. Did he ever think about possibly going into the space side of it?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.854440240131876, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I guess so. I assume so. As I told you, they had said that they wanted just high school graduates, because that was the type of work that they did. I was so surprised to come into an office and they resented your being there right at first. I had been four years at an all-girls’ college, so I thought I knew all about girls. I realized that you did have little cliques. I was so surprised, but, that worked out in a short time, and there was no problem at all. It was just that they let certain people do certain things. Some of the girls were not happy that they didn’t have replacements."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that engineers were in that 19-Foot Tunnel. Were there any men that were doing mathematical work or computer work at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. They were all girls. Some of them had been there for quite a while."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You quit working in ’56, but your husband was still working. You said he stayed in that Full-Scale Tunnel the whole time. Did he ever think about possibly going into the space side of it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. He was asked to, at that time. He really didn’t want to. He was interested in the low-speed aerodynamics. We discussed it. We had several very good friends who moved, but he didn’t want to move to Houston, and he didn’t want to go to space. He became branch head of that tunnel. They have just recently torn that down. It was one of the oldest tunnels there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember any of the projects or things that he worked on that were high-profile?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.393822489035417, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. They were all girls. Some of them had been there for quite a while."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You quit working in ’56, but your husband was still working. You said he stayed in that Full-Scale Tunnel the whole time. Did he ever think about possibly going into the space side of it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. He was asked to, at that time. He really didn’t want to. He was interested in the low-speed aerodynamics. We discussed it. We had several very good friends who moved, but he didn’t want to move to Houston, and he didn’t want to go to space. He became branch head of that tunnel. They have just recently torn that down. It was one of the oldest tunnels there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember any of the projects or things that he worked on that were high-profile?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember a whole lot, but I remember he worked on the supersonic transport a lot, which didn’t get off the ground. He was going to and from Seattle [Washington]. He worked on vertical take-off planes. I don’t remember. I really don’t, but he loved his airplanes. He really enjoyed it. He loved NASA, because he was given the opportunity to do research on almost anything he wanted to do, and that was just so great for him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He found that all throughout his 46 years? He continued to feel that way?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:73", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.770913876706019, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. He was asked to, at that time. He really didn’t want to. He was interested in the low-speed aerodynamics. We discussed it. We had several very good friends who moved, but he didn’t want to move to Houston, and he didn’t want to go to space. He became branch head of that tunnel. They have just recently torn that down. It was one of the oldest tunnels there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember any of the projects or things that he worked on that were high-profile?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember a whole lot, but I remember he worked on the supersonic transport a lot, which didn’t get off the ground. He was going to and from Seattle [Washington]. He worked on vertical take-off planes. I don’t remember. I really don’t, but he loved his airplanes. He really enjoyed it. He loved NASA, because he was given the opportunity to do research on almost anything he wanted to do, and that was just so great for him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He found that all throughout his 46 years? He continued to feel that way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. He just thought that there was no place you could go and have an idea and try to develop it and see what would take place. He just loved it. We always said that he had worked at such a wonderful time; he told me that, before I got here, Orville Wright came here. He shook hands with him, and somebody took his picture, but they didn’t have film in it. Anyway, he shook hands with Orville Wright, and he was there when they put the man on the Moon. What a wonderful period of time to be in aeronautics."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The early astronauts were training here, too."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.655449230501258, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. He just thought that there was no place you could go and have an idea and try to develop it and see what would take place. He just loved it. We always said that he had worked at such a wonderful time; he told me that, before I got here, Orville Wright came here. He shook hands with him, and somebody took his picture, but they didn’t have film in it. Anyway, he shook hands with Orville Wright, and he was there when they put the man on the Moon. What a wonderful period of time to be in aeronautics."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The early astronauts were training here, too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Our really good friend was the one that did the lunar landing structure that they had here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The simulator?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We did have some space going on here, but when they got ready to move, he really wanted to stay here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like he had a long career here."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.17272136722362, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Our really good friend was the one that did the lunar landing structure that they had here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The simulator?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We did have some space going on here, but when they got ready to move, he really wanted to stay here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like he had a long career here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He sure did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Rebecca, do you have anything that you want to ask?\n\nI want to ask you about training. Did they give you any type of training on the Friden machine?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:81", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.7474681858040215, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We did have some space going on here, but when they got ready to move, he really wanted to stay here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like he had a long career here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He sure did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Rebecca, do you have anything that you want to ask?\n\nI want to ask you about training. Did they give you any type of training on the Friden machine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those Friden machines? I guess they did. Well, they would have to, because I had never seen one before. I would say that my head computer did that. I don’t remember, but I do remember struggling with it some. People were working so fast, and I would be punching along. I remember that. I assume that it was just in-office training. I did not go to any classes. I remember just going into that office, and that was where I was assigned. I didn’t have any training before I went into that office."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had mentioned the different groups. You were with the computers and mathematicians. We know there were secretaries or administrative support. People have mentioned the tunnel girls. What did they do?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.274964650893357, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He sure did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Rebecca, do you have anything that you want to ask?\n\nI want to ask you about training. Did they give you any type of training on the Friden machine?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those Friden machines? I guess they did. Well, they would have to, because I had never seen one before. I would say that my head computer did that. I don’t remember, but I do remember struggling with it some. People were working so fast, and I would be punching along. I remember that. I assume that it was just in-office training. I did not go to any classes. I remember just going into that office, and that was where I was assigned. I didn’t have any training before I went into that office."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had mentioned the different groups. You were with the computers and mathematicians. We know there were secretaries or administrative support. People have mentioned the tunnel girls. What did they do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They assisted the engineers. I don’t think we had any tunnel girls in our office, but I know that my husband, Joe [Joseph L. Johnson, Jr.], did. Of course, his tunnel was big. It was the Full-Scale. I remember they would be climbing up and putting models in and out, I guess, helped to run it. The engineers usually had the controls. I don’t know, but they did have tunnel girls. In fact, he had several. One of the tunnel girls ended up getting rated as an engineer. She was considered one of the engineers later."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that Langley [Research Center] for a while in different areas had different types of programs. Was there anything else that you were interested in doing while you were there? Did you plan to work for a while? I know you said something about going back to Mississippi, but those plans changed. I wondered if you had wanted to do something else. Did you have a desire to be an engineer?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:86", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.861071834325951, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those Friden machines? I guess they did. Well, they would have to, because I had never seen one before. I would say that my head computer did that. I don’t remember, but I do remember struggling with it some. People were working so fast, and I would be punching along. I remember that. I assume that it was just in-office training. I did not go to any classes. I remember just going into that office, and that was where I was assigned. I didn’t have any training before I went into that office."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had mentioned the different groups. You were with the computers and mathematicians. We know there were secretaries or administrative support. People have mentioned the tunnel girls. What did they do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They assisted the engineers. I don’t think we had any tunnel girls in our office, but I know that my husband, Joe [Joseph L. Johnson, Jr.], did. Of course, his tunnel was big. It was the Full-Scale. I remember they would be climbing up and putting models in and out, I guess, helped to run it. The engineers usually had the controls. I don’t know, but they did have tunnel girls. In fact, he had several. One of the tunnel girls ended up getting rated as an engineer. She was considered one of the engineers later."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that Langley [Research Center] for a while in different areas had different types of programs. Was there anything else that you were interested in doing while you were there? Did you plan to work for a while? I know you said something about going back to Mississippi, but those plans changed. I wondered if you had wanted to do something else. Did you have a desire to be an engineer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I guess because we started having a family, and I quit then and just didn’t go back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you only stay in this area?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:88", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.290079815917723, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They assisted the engineers. I don’t think we had any tunnel girls in our office, but I know that my husband, Joe [Joseph L. Johnson, Jr.], did. Of course, his tunnel was big. It was the Full-Scale. I remember they would be climbing up and putting models in and out, I guess, helped to run it. The engineers usually had the controls. I don’t know, but they did have tunnel girls. In fact, he had several. One of the tunnel girls ended up getting rated as an engineer. She was considered one of the engineers later."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that Langley [Research Center] for a while in different areas had different types of programs. Was there anything else that you were interested in doing while you were there? Did you plan to work for a while? I know you said something about going back to Mississippi, but those plans changed. I wondered if you had wanted to do something else. Did you have a desire to be an engineer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I guess because we started having a family, and I quit then and just didn’t go back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you only stay in this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Probably a year or so after we married, we moved here, just one street over. We have been here ever since. After about nine years, we moved to this house. So, we’ve been within the block of where we were practically the whole 60 years we were married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Lots of people at Langley chose this community."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:90", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.655644239908581, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I guess because we started having a family, and I quit then and just didn’t go back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you only stay in this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Probably a year or so after we married, we moved here, just one street over. We have been here ever since. After about nine years, we moved to this house. So, we’ve been within the block of where we were practically the whole 60 years we were married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Lots of people at Langley chose this community."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They did. A lot of people bought lots here and built homes. I think that’s why we probably ended up here, too. Joe’s boss bought a home, and I think that got us interested in coming here and looking around. There are quite a few. You can go around and find the “NACA-nut” houses. My good friend lived across the street, one house back. You can’t see the house from here, but she always said, “My house is a typical NASA house. Everybody who passes by can tell it’s a NASA house.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why could they tell that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:92", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.061826933231757, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Probably a year or so after we married, we moved here, just one street over. We have been here ever since. After about nine years, we moved to this house. So, we’ve been within the block of where we were practically the whole 60 years we were married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Lots of people at Langley chose this community."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They did. A lot of people bought lots here and built homes. I think that’s why we probably ended up here, too. Joe’s boss bought a home, and I think that got us interested in coming here and looking around. There are quite a few. You can go around and find the “NACA-nut” houses. My good friend lived across the street, one house back. You can’t see the house from here, but she always said, “My house is a typical NASA house. Everybody who passes by can tell it’s a NASA house.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why could they tell that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No real trim on it, and higher windows. I know three or four that had the windows up high and very efficient. They had radiant heat in the floor and all of this, that, and the other; just very fundamental and their own design and not a whole lot of eye appeal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Return on their investment.\n\nWe just spoke to Sue Johnson. She was saying that her husband finished and built—they moved into an unfinished house, and then he built everything."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:94", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.513141036924174, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They did. A lot of people bought lots here and built homes. I think that’s why we probably ended up here, too. Joe’s boss bought a home, and I think that got us interested in coming here and looking around. There are quite a few. You can go around and find the “NACA-nut” houses. My good friend lived across the street, one house back. You can’t see the house from here, but she always said, “My house is a typical NASA house. Everybody who passes by can tell it’s a NASA house.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why could they tell that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No real trim on it, and higher windows. I know three or four that had the windows up high and very efficient. They had radiant heat in the floor and all of this, that, and the other; just very fundamental and their own design and not a whole lot of eye appeal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Return on their investment.\n\nWe just spoke to Sue Johnson. She was saying that her husband finished and built—they moved into an unfinished house, and then he built everything."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When hers was done, it didn’t look like a NASA house. It has much more curb appeal than most did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know, in the Houston area, when people did move in, they came from Virginia, and it was quite a shock for the people from this area to come down to Houston, just because of the climate and the way things looked. They went into neighborhoods and kind of filled up those areas."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:96", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.0146011521379705, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No real trim on it, and higher windows. I know three or four that had the windows up high and very efficient. They had radiant heat in the floor and all of this, that, and the other; just very fundamental and their own design and not a whole lot of eye appeal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Return on their investment.\n\nWe just spoke to Sue Johnson. She was saying that her husband finished and built—they moved into an unfinished house, and then he built everything."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When hers was done, it didn’t look like a NASA house. It has much more curb appeal than most did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know, in the Houston area, when people did move in, they came from Virginia, and it was quite a shock for the people from this area to come down to Houston, just because of the climate and the way things looked. They went into neighborhoods and kind of filled up those areas."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Kind of did their own thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, and then they really affected the local culture. Their kids all went to the same schools, and they had swim teams, and all the kids knew each other, and that sort of thing. When you all moved into these neighborhoods, was it sort of the same thing?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.460667946819967, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When hers was done, it didn’t look like a NASA house. It has much more curb appeal than most did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know, in the Houston area, when people did move in, they came from Virginia, and it was quite a shock for the people from this area to come down to Houston, just because of the climate and the way things looked. They went into neighborhoods and kind of filled up those areas."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Kind of did their own thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, and then they really affected the local culture. Their kids all went to the same schools, and they had swim teams, and all the kids knew each other, and that sort of thing. When you all moved into these neighborhoods, was it sort of the same thing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, definitely. When we built our house here, I guess half the people there were from NASA. We all had young children, and we spent half the day sitting on stoops, letting the children play and this sort of thing. We continued to have lots of activities out at the field. We would go out there for things. It was very friendly. It was just like a big family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In ’59, they had the first open house. Did you go to that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:101", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.956297718688853, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Kind of did their own thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, and then they really affected the local culture. Their kids all went to the same schools, and they had swim teams, and all the kids knew each other, and that sort of thing. When you all moved into these neighborhoods, was it sort of the same thing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, definitely. When we built our house here, I guess half the people there were from NASA. We all had young children, and we spent half the day sitting on stoops, letting the children play and this sort of thing. We continued to have lots of activities out at the field. We would go out there for things. It was very friendly. It was just like a big family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In ’59, they had the first open house. Did you go to that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember touring all of the facilities?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:103", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.506997465209836, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, definitely. When we built our house here, I guess half the people there were from NASA. We all had young children, and we spent half the day sitting on stoops, letting the children play and this sort of thing. We continued to have lots of activities out at the field. We would go out there for things. It was very friendly. It was just like a big family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In ’59, they had the first open house. Did you go to that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember touring all of the facilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We went to some of the facilities. I continued to go to the functions at the Full-Scale Tunnel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kinds of functions did they have?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:105", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.007774961344262, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember touring all of the facilities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We went to some of the facilities. I continued to go to the functions at the Full-Scale Tunnel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kinds of functions did they have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They would have parties. They would have oyster roasts in the wintertime, we would go there. Later on, they started having Christmas parties. I can’t remember but different anniversaries, I suppose, or when some dignitaries were there. Of course, you’d see a lot of people that you had worked with and knew. A lot of my friends stayed in this area, and we continued to be friends throughout our married life. Some moved away, but a lot of them stayed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the groups mingle together based on where you worked, like people from the East side or the West side?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:107", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.453083290382514, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We went to some of the facilities. I continued to go to the functions at the Full-Scale Tunnel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kinds of functions did they have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They would have parties. They would have oyster roasts in the wintertime, we would go there. Later on, they started having Christmas parties. I can’t remember but different anniversaries, I suppose, or when some dignitaries were there. Of course, you’d see a lot of people that you had worked with and knew. A lot of my friends stayed in this area, and we continued to be friends throughout our married life. Some moved away, but a lot of them stayed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the groups mingle together based on where you worked, like people from the East side or the West side?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Most of the people I knew had worked on the East side, unless they got married later, and then I met them that way. But, the people I really I knew best early on were the people who worked on the East side. There were just a couple of tunnels there. What was the water one? They had one that was the water—I can’t remember—and then that had the Full-Scale Tunnel, and they had the 19-Foot. There may be one other one on our side. We had the little BX [Base Exchange] at Langley—a little place where we could go eat and a few little things like that. We never did go to the NASA Cafeteria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was the Air Force Cafeteria?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.836759211536127, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They would have parties. They would have oyster roasts in the wintertime, we would go there. Later on, they started having Christmas parties. I can’t remember but different anniversaries, I suppose, or when some dignitaries were there. Of course, you’d see a lot of people that you had worked with and knew. A lot of my friends stayed in this area, and we continued to be friends throughout our married life. Some moved away, but a lot of them stayed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the groups mingle together based on where you worked, like people from the East side or the West side?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Most of the people I knew had worked on the East side, unless they got married later, and then I met them that way. But, the people I really I knew best early on were the people who worked on the East side. There were just a couple of tunnels there. What was the water one? They had one that was the water—I can’t remember—and then that had the Full-Scale Tunnel, and they had the 19-Foot. There may be one other one on our side. We had the little BX [Base Exchange] at Langley—a little place where we could go eat and a few little things like that. We never did go to the NASA Cafeteria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was the Air Force Cafeteria?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was the Air Force. We had that. We had the runways right behind us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I want to go back and ask about the first thing you said. I’m fascinated by the fact that you took a plane here."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:111", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.263065790595697, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Most of the people I knew had worked on the East side, unless they got married later, and then I met them that way. But, the people I really I knew best early on were the people who worked on the East side. There were just a couple of tunnels there. What was the water one? They had one that was the water—I can’t remember—and then that had the Full-Scale Tunnel, and they had the 19-Foot. There may be one other one on our side. We had the little BX [Base Exchange] at Langley—a little place where we could go eat and a few little things like that. We never did go to the NASA Cafeteria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was the Air Force Cafeteria?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was the Air Force. We had that. We had the runways right behind us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I want to go back and ask about the first thing you said. I’m fascinated by the fact that you took a plane here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me about that."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:113", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.625628656217441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was the Air Force. We had that. We had the runways right behind us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I want to go back and ask about the first thing you said. I’m fascinated by the fact that you took a plane here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me about that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did. I remember wearing high-heeled shoes. I was really dressed up. It was on Capitol Airlines. A young guy was the attendant. He must have known I was scared to death. I must have looked apprehensive. He asked me if I would like to help him serve meals. I said, “Yes, I would.” Here I was with my high-heeled shoes on. I don’t know what else we had, but we had green peas. I remember that, because I remember trying to keep those trays straight and serve green peas that wouldn’t roll off the plate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s so funny."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:115", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.028476284686046, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell me about that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did. I remember wearing high-heeled shoes. I was really dressed up. It was on Capitol Airlines. A young guy was the attendant. He must have known I was scared to death. I must have looked apprehensive. He asked me if I would like to help him serve meals. I said, “Yes, I would.” Here I was with my high-heeled shoes on. I don’t know what else we had, but we had green peas. I remember that, because I remember trying to keep those trays straight and serve green peas that wouldn’t roll off the plate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s so funny."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But, I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many people on the plane?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:117", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.476084760762273, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did. I remember wearing high-heeled shoes. I was really dressed up. It was on Capitol Airlines. A young guy was the attendant. He must have known I was scared to death. I must have looked apprehensive. He asked me if I would like to help him serve meals. I said, “Yes, I would.” Here I was with my high-heeled shoes on. I don’t know what else we had, but we had green peas. I remember that, because I remember trying to keep those trays straight and serve green peas that wouldn’t roll off the plate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s so funny."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But, I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many people on the plane?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is amazing."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.973427511958081, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But, I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many people on the plane?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is amazing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Isn’t that something? I guess I just wanted an adventure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, that’s quite a choice, because I know we talked to a lot of people that got here by train. You are the first one we’ve talked to that flew."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.526030568842312, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is amazing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Isn’t that something? I guess I just wanted an adventure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, that’s quite a choice, because I know we talked to a lot of people that got here by train. You are the first one we’ve talked to that flew."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I flew into Norfolk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then, you had airfields behind you for five years, and you married somebody who was an aeronautical engineer. It was kind of like it was destined to happen."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:123", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.140033965380347, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Isn’t that something? I guess I just wanted an adventure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, that’s quite a choice, because I know we talked to a lot of people that got here by train. You are the first one we’ve talked to that flew."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I flew into Norfolk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then, you had airfields behind you for five years, and you married somebody who was an aeronautical engineer. It was kind of like it was destined to happen."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That I definitely wasn’t going to do. I said, “I want to work. I really want to work for a while. I don’t want to get married.” That was a surprise that I ended up getting married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever ask him if he really needed that card table?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:125", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.600037739311497, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I flew into Norfolk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then, you had airfields behind you for five years, and you married somebody who was an aeronautical engineer. It was kind of like it was destined to happen."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That I definitely wasn’t going to do. I said, “I want to work. I really want to work for a while. I don’t want to get married.” That was a surprise that I ended up getting married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever ask him if he really needed that card table?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have always accused him. I really don’t think he ever used that card table. I think he was told that two new girls had just moved into the apartment. He was just across the street, so he wanted to meet these two girls who had moved in. My roommate was the other girl from MSCW. She was a PE [Physical Education] major. She had had some math, but she hadn’t had nearly the math I had. It was really funny, because she got her mathematician rating before I did, because she had had a science course. She took astronomy—a course that everybody took because it was so easy. I hadn’t had a science course, so I had to wait to get my mathematician’s rating. I thought that was so funny, that you had to have so many hours of science. I had enough hours of math to have a major and a minor in math, because I liked it. I thought that was so strange."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was your first introduction to how the government figures things out."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:127", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.111153043679441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That I definitely wasn’t going to do. I said, “I want to work. I really want to work for a while. I don’t want to get married.” That was a surprise that I ended up getting married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever ask him if he really needed that card table?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have always accused him. I really don’t think he ever used that card table. I think he was told that two new girls had just moved into the apartment. He was just across the street, so he wanted to meet these two girls who had moved in. My roommate was the other girl from MSCW. She was a PE [Physical Education] major. She had had some math, but she hadn’t had nearly the math I had. It was really funny, because she got her mathematician rating before I did, because she had had a science course. She took astronomy—a course that everybody took because it was so easy. I hadn’t had a science course, so I had to wait to get my mathematician’s rating. I thought that was so funny, that you had to have so many hours of science. I had enough hours of math to have a major and a minor in math, because I liked it. I thought that was so strange."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was your first introduction to how the government figures things out."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was. It just didn’t make sense to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you actually take the civil service exam?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:129", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.679058937421601, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have always accused him. I really don’t think he ever used that card table. I think he was told that two new girls had just moved into the apartment. He was just across the street, so he wanted to meet these two girls who had moved in. My roommate was the other girl from MSCW. She was a PE [Physical Education] major. She had had some math, but she hadn’t had nearly the math I had. It was really funny, because she got her mathematician rating before I did, because she had had a science course. She took astronomy—a course that everybody took because it was so easy. I hadn’t had a science course, so I had to wait to get my mathematician’s rating. I thought that was so funny, that you had to have so many hours of science. I had enough hours of math to have a major and a minor in math, because I liked it. I thought that was so strange."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was your first introduction to how the government figures things out."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was. It just didn’t make sense to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you actually take the civil service exam?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never took it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You never had to. You just got certified or whatever the term was at that time."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:131", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.310065486024001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was. It just didn’t make sense to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you actually take the civil service exam?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never took it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You never had to. You just got certified or whatever the term was at that time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they just automatically changed over."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After you’d been there for a while."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:133", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 7.011183873360001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never took it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You never had to. You just got certified or whatever the term was at that time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they just automatically changed over."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After you’d been there for a while."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember how long. It wasn’t too long. I expected to come up and use my math. I was really excited about that, and I punched that machine instead."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you went back to teaching, did you teach math?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:135", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.456870970400001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they just automatically changed over."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After you’d been there for a while."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember how long. It wasn’t too long. I expected to come up and use my math. I was really excited about that, and I punched that machine instead."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you went back to teaching, did you teach math?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I didn’t work at all while the kids were growing up. Then, my youngest one went off to college, and I thought, “I’m not going to sit here.” I think I did a little tutoring, maybe—just a little bit. I had wanted to substitute teach, just to see if I would enjoy it, because I got my teaching certificate from Mississippi. My boys would not let me go into the public school and substitute—that was during integration, and there was so much misbehavior and this sort of thing.\\n\\n So, when Randy went off to college, I went to Hampton Roads Academy, which is a college preparatory school here, just to substitute. I thought I would like to be put on the substitute list and see. I had always wanted to teach and didn’t get a chance to. We talked about that. They said, “Well, we really need a math teacher—a high school math teacher.”\\n\\n I said, “Oh, I don’t know.” I hadn’t used my math in so long, but I ended up teaching about nine or ten years and just loved it. I just loved it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it general math, or was it algebra?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:137", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.952078856000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t remember how long. It wasn’t too long. I expected to come up and use my math. I was really excited about that, and I punched that machine instead."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you went back to teaching, did you teach math?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I didn’t work at all while the kids were growing up. Then, my youngest one went off to college, and I thought, “I’m not going to sit here.” I think I did a little tutoring, maybe—just a little bit. I had wanted to substitute teach, just to see if I would enjoy it, because I got my teaching certificate from Mississippi. My boys would not let me go into the public school and substitute—that was during integration, and there was so much misbehavior and this sort of thing.\\n\\n So, when Randy went off to college, I went to Hampton Roads Academy, which is a college preparatory school here, just to substitute. I thought I would like to be put on the substitute list and see. I had always wanted to teach and didn’t get a chance to. We talked about that. They said, “Well, we really need a math teacher—a high school math teacher.”\\n\\n I said, “Oh, I don’t know.” I hadn’t used my math in so long, but I ended up teaching about nine or ten years and just loved it. I just loved it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it general math, or was it algebra?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I taught algebra and geometry. I substituted a little bit, but I didn’t get up to calculus with that. I’ve forgotten what the highest math was I substituted in. By that time, I had lost my math skills."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It wouldn’t be hard to lose calculus!"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:139", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.502309840000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I didn’t work at all while the kids were growing up. Then, my youngest one went off to college, and I thought, “I’m not going to sit here.” I think I did a little tutoring, maybe—just a little bit. I had wanted to substitute teach, just to see if I would enjoy it, because I got my teaching certificate from Mississippi. My boys would not let me go into the public school and substitute—that was during integration, and there was so much misbehavior and this sort of thing.\\n\\n So, when Randy went off to college, I went to Hampton Roads Academy, which is a college preparatory school here, just to substitute. I thought I would like to be put on the substitute list and see. I had always wanted to teach and didn’t get a chance to. We talked about that. They said, “Well, we really need a math teacher—a high school math teacher.”\\n\\n I said, “Oh, I don’t know.” I hadn’t used my math in so long, but I ended up teaching about nine or ten years and just loved it. I just loved it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it general math, or was it algebra?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I taught algebra and geometry. I substituted a little bit, but I didn’t get up to calculus with that. I’ve forgotten what the highest math was I substituted in. By that time, I had lost my math skills."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It wouldn’t be hard to lose calculus!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I enjoyed the algebra and geometry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s neat. That’s good that you got a chance to actually teach since that’s what you started out wanting to do."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:141", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.113677600000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I taught algebra and geometry. I substituted a little bit, but I didn’t get up to calculus with that. I’ve forgotten what the highest math was I substituted in. By that time, I had lost my math skills."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It wouldn’t be hard to lose calculus!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I enjoyed the algebra and geometry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s neat. That’s good that you got a chance to actually teach since that’s what you started out wanting to do."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was one thing, I guess, that you could say was on my bucket list. I really wanted to teach."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’m sure the pay was better then than it was when you first looked into it."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:143", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.681864000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I enjoyed the algebra and geometry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s neat. That’s good that you got a chance to actually teach since that’s what you started out wanting to do."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was one thing, I guess, that you could say was on my bucket list. I really wanted to teach."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’m sure the pay was better then than it was when you first looked into it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I don’t know. This was a private school. I said that was my community service. The pay was so poor, but I did get an annuity from it that ended up having grown quite a bit, so that was very nice. I had two children in college at that time; somehow they knew when pay day was. I usually got a phone call. I didn’t see much of the pay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was going to say that some things never change, do they?\n\nYou raised smart children!\n\nDid they go on and do math or engineering?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:147", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4344, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I don’t know. This was a private school. I said that was my community service. The pay was so poor, but I did get an annuity from it that ended up having grown quite a bit, so that was very nice. I had two children in college at that time; somehow they knew when pay day was. I usually got a phone call. I didn’t see much of the pay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was going to say that some things never change, do they?\n\nYou raised smart children!\n\nDid they go on and do math or engineering?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. We had one that would have been a great engineer, but he decided he didn’t want to do that. He started in business and ended up in agriculture. He’s a plant pathologist. He does a lot of lab work. He is like an engineer. He would have made a great engineer, but he is a good plant pathologist.\\n\\n One is an economist. He was in economics, and he works for the government in [Washington,] DC. My oldest one went in the Air Force, and now he is in Seattle. He’s with Homeland Security there, after he retired from the Air Force. So, that’s what they did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Three boys."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Three boys and just two years apart—each one of them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was a handful. I can see why you stayed home."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:151", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8160000000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. We had one that would have been a great engineer, but he decided he didn’t want to do that. He started in business and ended up in agriculture. He’s a plant pathologist. He does a lot of lab work. He is like an engineer. He would have made a great engineer, but he is a good plant pathologist.\\n\\n One is an economist. He was in economics, and he works for the government in [Washington,] DC. My oldest one went in the Air Force, and now he is in Seattle. He’s with Homeland Security there, after he retired from the Air Force. So, that’s what they did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Three boys."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Three boys and just two years apart—each one of them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was a handful. I can see why you stayed home."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was. It really was. Then, after I finished teaching, I did tutor, just to keep my hands in it. I always enjoyed the math. I enjoyed teaching the girls; they just knew they didn’t like math, because their mothers weren’t good in math, and it was fun to try to turn them around to where they really liked it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you first went to college and you majored in math—well, you were at a women’s college."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:153", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.24, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Three boys and just two years apart—each one of them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was a handful. I can see why you stayed home."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was. It really was. Then, after I finished teaching, I did tutor, just to keep my hands in it. I always enjoyed the math. I enjoyed teaching the girls; they just knew they didn’t like math, because their mothers weren’t good in math, and it was fun to try to turn them around to where they really liked it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you first went to college and you majored in math—well, you were at a women’s college."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I was at a women’s college. There weren’t too many math majors, but there were some."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But, it was just something you always wanted to do?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:155", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was. It really was. Then, after I finished teaching, I did tutor, just to keep my hands in it. I always enjoyed the math. I enjoyed teaching the girls; they just knew they didn’t like math, because their mothers weren’t good in math, and it was fun to try to turn them around to where they really liked it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you first went to college and you majored in math—well, you were at a women’s college."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I was at a women’s college. There weren’t too many math majors, but there were some."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But, it was just something you always wanted to do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I enjoyed it. Well, I really didn’t know what I was going to major in. I had a minor in journalism and English, but when I started the math courses, I enjoyed it. I figured I’d just be a math teacher. That’s what I did my practice teaching in. That’s what I thought I would be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were your parents in education?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:157", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 4.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I was at a women’s college. There weren’t too many math majors, but there were some."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But, it was just something you always wanted to do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I enjoyed it. Well, I really didn’t know what I was going to major in. I had a minor in journalism and English, but when I started the math courses, I enjoyed it. I figured I’d just be a math teacher. That’s what I did my practice teaching in. That’s what I thought I would be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were your parents in education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, my mother taught school—not when we were growing up, but she taught before she married, and then when my youngest sister went into school, she taught again. So, I guess I got the teaching—and she went to the same college that I went to. I guess that’s why I ended up there. They encouraged that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where was your husband from?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:159", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I enjoyed it. Well, I really didn’t know what I was going to major in. I had a minor in journalism and English, but when I started the math courses, I enjoyed it. I figured I’d just be a math teacher. That’s what I did my practice teaching in. That’s what I thought I would be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were your parents in education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, my mother taught school—not when we were growing up, but she taught before she married, and then when my youngest sister went into school, she taught again. So, I guess I got the teaching—and she went to the same college that I went to. I guess that’s why I ended up there. They encouraged that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where was your husband from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was from Atlanta, Georgia. He went to Georgia Tech [Georgia Institute of Technology] and majored in aeronautical engineering. He came straight from Georgia Tech here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He stayed in the south. That’s not too far from home."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:161", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, my mother taught school—not when we were growing up, but she taught before she married, and then when my youngest sister went into school, she taught again. So, I guess I got the teaching—and she went to the same college that I went to. I guess that’s why I ended up there. They encouraged that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where was your husband from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was from Atlanta, Georgia. He went to Georgia Tech [Georgia Institute of Technology] and majored in aeronautical engineering. He came straight from Georgia Tech here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He stayed in the south. That’s not too far from home."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s been a great life, really. Virginia is my home. Some of my family would like me to come back to Mississippi. Virginia is home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You’ve spent more time here than you have in Mississippi."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00958:163", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was from Atlanta, Georgia. He went to Georgia Tech [Georgia Institute of Technology] and majored in aeronautical engineering. He came straight from Georgia Tech here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He stayed in the south. That’s not too far from home."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s been a great life, really. Virginia is my home. Some of my family would like me to come back to Mississippi. Virginia is home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You’ve spent more time here than you have in Mississippi."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really have. I have enjoyed being here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s beautiful. It’s just beautiful. Is there anything we haven’t talked about that you’d like to mention?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00423:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 68.54949259249102, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I remember we were answering one question with one demo and we needed to zoom in on the particular activity, but while we could remotely zoom that particular camera, we couldn’t remotely pan and tilt it. So you could zoom in and then you totally miss what it is you’re looking at because you can’t pan or tilt it, and you’re doing this as Dave and Al and Clay and I are in front of the camera and we’re trying to do all this with no one operating the camera from behind. I would say we did the best we could and it was a lot of fun, but I’m sure it wasn’t very high quality."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But the point got across."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I hope so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think that was what was good about the mission, and because you were on that mission, the mission took on a different aspect. There seemed to be some discussion that you were a mission specialist and had been an educator, and not the educator mission specialist."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a change in personnel at the top. Our NASA Administrator Sean O’Keefe felt it was very important and saw that the Teacher in Space Program goal had still not been completed and he wanted it to happen. Then he initiated the Educator Astronaut Program, and we brought in more teachers to the astronaut corps, which was great; they are terrific. Then the next administrator said, “No, she’s not a teacher. She’s a mission specialist.” That’s just the way it goes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, it takes attention away from what I guess you wanted to really do and that was to bring the lessons alive."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00423:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 76.16610288054558, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I hope so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think that was what was good about the mission, and because you were on that mission, the mission took on a different aspect. There seemed to be some discussion that you were a mission specialist and had been an educator, and not the educator mission specialist."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a change in personnel at the top. Our NASA Administrator Sean O’Keefe felt it was very important and saw that the Teacher in Space Program goal had still not been completed and he wanted it to happen. Then he initiated the Educator Astronaut Program, and we brought in more teachers to the astronaut corps, which was great; they are terrific. Then the next administrator said, “No, she’s not a teacher. She’s a mission specialist.” That’s just the way it goes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, it takes attention away from what I guess you wanted to really do and that was to bring the lessons alive."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you want to bring the lessons alive and you also want it to be good for the crew and the mission. Definitely what you don’t want is one individual standing out, and I agree with this—that’s another reason why the conceived “wow factor” or the perceived “wow factor” that some folks had in their minds—that was going to make a crewmember stand out—was problematic. I think that was likely part of the reasoning behind not having a special category of “educator mission specialist.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it was nice to see in the STS-118 crew patch, the design had the flame of knowledge."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00423:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 14, "return_to_go": 94.03222577845132, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you want to bring the lessons alive and you also want it to be good for the crew and the mission. Definitely what you don’t want is one individual standing out, and I agree with this—that’s another reason why the conceived “wow factor” or the perceived “wow factor” that some folks had in their minds—that was going to make a crewmember stand out—was problematic. I think that was likely part of the reasoning behind not having a special category of “educator mission specialist.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it was nice to see in the STS-118 crew patch, the design had the flame of knowledge."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did, and our crew was really good about that. This was an education mission and we wanted to highlight that as a crew. In addition to everything else that we were doing, education was an important part of the mission. People wanted to put an apple on our crew patch, and we talked about that, but we really wanted to honor teachers and students, and past, present, and future. That flame of knowledge actually came from the Teacher in Space Program patch and that was the real symbolism behind including the flame of knowledge, so it was honoring the past and moving into the future. The idea there, if you read that description, is that the orbit that encircles the astronaut symbol starts with that flame of knowledge, so we were trying to symbolize that all of what we’re able to do for space exploration. It’s all based on having a good education system and having a good educational foundation, so it all starts with education. That’s where it starts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you feel like the mission went fast. You had all the years and all the thoughts of preparation; then you’re up and you are down?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it does go really fast. Too fast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that was not your only assignment on that mission. You had other things that you were assigned to do."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 44.32841957251778, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It goes a long way back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born the year after [Charles] Lindbergh made his flight, and when I thought about it retrospectively after I received your questions, I began to realize that that influenced my life quite a lot. I remember now at about age four or so, or five, that I had a little Lindbergh helmet, a leather helmet with goggles on it. It was a replica of his. My son had one of Davey Crockett later on, it just dawned on me. I remember going to a birthday party of Freddy Moore when I was about that same age. I took a book on Lindbergh's flight. I think that's what it was. Anyway, obviously I couldn't read at that age. Freddy later became the chief acceptance pilot for the RCAF [Royal Canadian Air Force]. He accepted C-100 aircraft. I met him again years later when we were both about twenty-eight…\\n\\n Let's see. I guess that sort of got me—I made a few notes here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess I'll just mention a few of the other things. I used to keep a little scrapbook that I'd cut pictures out of magazines and newspapers of airplanes, and filled that up. I guess it wasn't aerodynamics at that time; it was just flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you still have that scrapbook?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:7", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 13, "return_to_go": 48.142688413908644, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was born the year after [Charles] Lindbergh made his flight, and when I thought about it retrospectively after I received your questions, I began to realize that that influenced my life quite a lot. I remember now at about age four or so, or five, that I had a little Lindbergh helmet, a leather helmet with goggles on it. It was a replica of his. My son had one of Davey Crockett later on, it just dawned on me. I remember going to a birthday party of Freddy Moore when I was about that same age. I took a book on Lindbergh's flight. I think that's what it was. Anyway, obviously I couldn't read at that age. Freddy later became the chief acceptance pilot for the RCAF [Royal Canadian Air Force]. He accepted C-100 aircraft. I met him again years later when we were both about twenty-eight…\\n\\n Let's see. I guess that sort of got me—I made a few notes here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I guess I'll just mention a few of the other things. I used to keep a little scrapbook that I'd cut pictures out of magazines and newspapers of airplanes, and filled that up. I guess it wasn't aerodynamics at that time; it was just flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you still have that scrapbook?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I haven't. I wish I could find it again. I lived in British Columbia, which was mountains up and down, and one of my jobs as a little boy was to go downtown and get the groceries and bring them back up the hill. It was always an arduous trip down and back up, and every once in a while an airplane would fly over the town. I used to marvel at how they didn't have to go down and up; they just flew straight across. So some of the practical ramifications of flight struck home to me at a fairly early age."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I can imagine."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 36.964926709203844, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it was just two or three days after my eighteenth birthday, I soloed a plane in Vancouver, and that same year I got my private pilot's license. So I was getting up into the little bigger time now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It must have been exciting for you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was. It was a great time. My father didn't like aviation, actually, because his cousin, whom he went to visit in the First World War on leave in France, when he got there his cousin had just been killed, been shot down and killed, and I think that [bad] taste stayed in his mouth the rest of his life, but he did let me go to school and study airplane design in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in Spartan College of Aeronautical Engineering. It wasn't very heavy on aerodynamics, but it was very heavy on structures, structural design of aircraft.\\n\\n So when I graduated from that, I applied for jobs in every company in the U.S., and there were no jobs in 1949. There had been a tremendous buildup of [civil] aviation after the Second World War, especially light aircraft, but by 1949 it was in a complete slump. But fortunately I was able to get a job with A.V. Roe [AVRO] in Canada. They were moving ahead quite aggressively, and that's where I started the AVRO experience. And, of course, what they really needed was structural designers. They had lots of aerodynamicists, but their structural design was pretty weak, I'm afraid. They had civil engineers from various universities working there, and they were not aircraft structures they were designing. So I went up like a rocket in that organization, which—but I guess I'm getting off the track a little, am I?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, no, not at all. We can move right into your work with AVRO."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. You said something about space flight. Do you want me to go back on that also?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you interested in space flight early on?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 29.895047687858966, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The technical adventures were quite appealing, to—at least to a young boy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure they were."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they still are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. They're still pretty popular nowadays...With all your interest and then your schooling, you did move into working with AVRO. What was your first project there as you came on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you speak of projects, the projects usually are different aircraft or different tasks on an aircraft. I wasn't sure what you meant by that. The types of aircraft I worked on at AVRO were the C-102 Jetliner. In fact, that was my first job. It had flown about two months before I got there. A nose wheel door had blown off on one flight, so my very first job was to redesign the hinges."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Important. Very important."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 28.772275208732186, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they still are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. They're still pretty popular nowadays...With all your interest and then your schooling, you did move into working with AVRO. What was your first project there as you came on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you speak of projects, the projects usually are different aircraft or different tasks on an aircraft. I wasn't sure what you meant by that. The types of aircraft I worked on at AVRO were the C-102 Jetliner. In fact, that was my first job. It had flown about two months before I got there. A nose wheel door had blown off on one flight, so my very first job was to redesign the hinges."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Important. Very important."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that was my first design. They said to me, \"Don't worry about the weight,\" because it was tail-heavy. And years later, when I knew a little bit more, when I had a little bit more experience designing things, I saw my design, and that door would never fall off. [Laughter] So that was my very first job, and that was in design. I was placed in the nose section, and my friend Ken Lenz from Spartan wrote me a letter when I told him that, he said, \"Well, that's where they put all the snots, isn't it?\" [Laughter] Incidentally, that was before he was married, and just last year I helped him celebrate his fiftieth wedding anniversary."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wonderful! That's great. That's great you've been able to keep in contact with old friends like that."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 31.969194676369096, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When you speak of projects, the projects usually are different aircraft or different tasks on an aircraft. I wasn't sure what you meant by that. The types of aircraft I worked on at AVRO were the C-102 Jetliner. In fact, that was my first job. It had flown about two months before I got there. A nose wheel door had blown off on one flight, so my very first job was to redesign the hinges."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Important. Very important."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that was my first design. They said to me, \"Don't worry about the weight,\" because it was tail-heavy. And years later, when I knew a little bit more, when I had a little bit more experience designing things, I saw my design, and that door would never fall off. [Laughter] So that was my very first job, and that was in design. I was placed in the nose section, and my friend Ken Lenz from Spartan wrote me a letter when I told him that, he said, \"Well, that's where they put all the snots, isn't it?\" [Laughter] Incidentally, that was before he was married, and just last year I helped him celebrate his fiftieth wedding anniversary."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wonderful! That's great. That's great you've been able to keep in contact with old friends like that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I did a little bit more work on that airplane. The first airplane had flown and we were designing a second prototype, which was quite a bit of improved structure and so forth on it. It never flew; it was canceled. But I did work on redesigning the forward pressure bulkhead, which was a very interesting thing to design because it sat up in the nose and the canopy came out of the top of it, so there was a change in direction there. Then the nose landing gear trunion attached to it, and, of course, it also supported the rudder pedals and things like that. So it was a good introductory exercise in design."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And a very important area to be working in."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 31.030627459791337, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And it was a difficult job, because most airplanes have wing sections that are 15 percent thick or so. This had wing sections that were 3 percent thick, so when you got back to the trailing edge [the control surfaces] were long and thin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been challenging."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then it was a supersonic airplane, so all the air loads, due to control-surface deflection, are behind the hinge line, so they had huge hinge moments. So they had the two things: a very thin surface and very huge hinge moments. At first it looked as though it wasn't possible to design control surfaces. I tried making one out of solid steel actuated at one point, and it was still not stiff enough. When I had been at college, I had designed the flap system for the Spartan Model 12 Executive, just as a school exercise, so that [experience] taught me about using multiple actuators, so I designed a multiple actuator and bell-crank system that distributed the hinge moment along the surface and was able to get away with a quite light control surface, just thin aluminum skins and so forth. That preliminary design was actually used in the…Arrow that you see flying up there on the wall."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And the elevator…design…type was used for the ailerons and the rudder as well. So that was my contribution to the early design of the AVRO Arrow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did it progress? You said this was the early design of the Arrow and then it progressed forward and it did change a little bit."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.717755524719024, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And you asked me about NASA. I studied many NASA reports, of course, during the time I was working in loads, so I knew an awful lot about NACA [National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics] , [as] it was at that time. I knew a lot about them before I ever was invited to work on the space program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Great. You mentioned taking a break to go back to school. Did you continue any work at AVRO at the time or were you on leave?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I notice you mentioned coops. I don't think coop programs were in existence at that time, but we had summer students. No, what I did was actually take a leave of absence for the seven months. A year's study in Canada at that time was seven months long. That's the fall and spring semester…there were no summer sessions at all. So it's five months off in the summer and then seven months for the rest of the year. And that worked out very well. That worked out very well.\\n\\n I had a very tiny assistantship for the second year. I think it was $900 for the whole year, 150 a month, and then they just forgot the last month. [Laughter] But it enabled us to survive. My first wife supported me during that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was really good at that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's very good. I'm sure even though that $100 was important at that time. I know what it's like being a student. Every little bit counts."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 23.019728360798915, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I notice you mentioned coops. I don't think coop programs were in existence at that time, but we had summer students. No, what I did was actually take a leave of absence for the seven months. A year's study in Canada at that time was seven months long. That's the fall and spring semester…there were no summer sessions at all. So it's five months off in the summer and then seven months for the rest of the year. And that worked out very well. That worked out very well.\\n\\n I had a very tiny assistantship for the second year. I think it was $900 for the whole year, 150 a month, and then they just forgot the last month. [Laughter] But it enabled us to survive. My first wife supported me during that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was really good at that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's very good. I'm sure even though that $100 was important at that time. I know what it's like being a student. Every little bit counts."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They say that giving money is an inappropriate gift, but that year my parents sent me a check for $100, and tears rolled down our cheeks when we opened the envelope. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. Well, parents are pretty good at figuring out what their kids can use."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 12, "return_to_go": 25.577475956443237, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was really good at that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's very good. I'm sure even though that $100 was important at that time. I know what it's like being a student. Every little bit counts."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They say that giving money is an inappropriate gift, but that year my parents sent me a check for $100, and tears rolled down our cheeks when we opened the envelope. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. Well, parents are pretty good at figuring out what their kids can use."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's true. That's quite true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. You did go back to work at AVRO, and you mentioned getting into the loads [group]. At that point were you at all involved with the Arrow?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 17.354190513714435, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we did do the analysis. And I did myself the fin and rudder loads on the C-105. It's interesting to realize that the Arrow was virtually a brand-new type of airplane in those days, and the usual rules, the regulations and so forth, the military specs for designing airplanes, when we tried to apply them to that kind of design, it would make the fin, for example, so heavy that the airplane would never fly. So we had to put together our own specifications and prove [to the Air Force] that they would be adequate. So I gained a lot of experience doing new kinds of regulation-writing that stood me in good stead when it came to the space program. There was nothing written down as to what to do, so we put together all the specifications for manned [space] flight. I think on Project Mercury we did that, and to a large extent those were used on Project Apollo. So it all built up, one step led to another and so on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. That's kind of the way it's supposed to work, I guess, step by step."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I've been very fortunate in my life to have a lot of very good jobs. And then on the other hand, I was also fortunate enough, perhaps, to be ready for the next step when it came along. So, being prepared is not a bad motto. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not bad at all."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You never know what's around the next corner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's right. You never know."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:73", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 19.311119228125857, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Another thing, too, when we launched rockets from that machine, the rockets would leave, be fired through a nice streamlined nose cone, and that changed the aerodynamic shape and it blew a tail cone off, too, so they had now a nice blunt object there. Well, that meant that the flow had to go around a less streamlined body, and there was more kinetic energy in the flow going around it, and that led to large shock load factors. That's the same process that occurs in parachute [opening]. So I had some insight into what parachute shock loads would be later on.\\n\\n So everything sort of fit together, as long as you just let your curiosity prompt you to ask the questions why things happen, and then it's amazing how often the solution to one problem will be around for new problems. It's still happening today where I'm working now as a consultant."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good, you can just learn from each step and keep an open mind and be able to figure it out as you go along. Great.\\n\\n While you were working in AVRO and with the Arrow, it eventually got canceled."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you aware beforehand of the possibility? And then how did you hear about that coming about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we had heard a year, half a year ahead or so of time…The Prime Minister had threatened to cancel it, and I knew that, and I think everybody in the country realized that, but the people inside the company were kind of blinded by the [length of time] the project had been going thus far, and they managed to persuade me that it wasn't going to happen. [Laughter] But, of course, it did happen. If you ask me what was my response to that, my response was to run all the way to the Credit Union and sell my AVRO stock.. [Laughter] And I managed to catch it just before it went fwttttt, and got my money out, just exactly what I paid for it. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. Quick thinking. [Laughter] Very quick thinking."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 19.23457692013984, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you aware beforehand of the possibility? And then how did you hear about that coming about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we had heard a year, half a year ahead or so of time…The Prime Minister had threatened to cancel it, and I knew that, and I think everybody in the country realized that, but the people inside the company were kind of blinded by the [length of time] the project had been going thus far, and they managed to persuade me that it wasn't going to happen. [Laughter] But, of course, it did happen. If you ask me what was my response to that, my response was to run all the way to the Credit Union and sell my AVRO stock.. [Laughter] And I managed to catch it just before it went fwttttt, and got my money out, just exactly what I paid for it. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. Quick thinking. [Laughter] Very quick thinking."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. On a more serious vein, it was a disappointment, of course, but we did have a year—'59. Let me see. About a year of flight testing. So we had shown the machine to do everything we had hoped it would do, and we'd learned our lessons as engineers from it, so that we were more or less finished with that machine except for, from a structural point of view, finding out those important things about how long will the structure last before [it] fatigue fails and things like that. We never got those questions answered. As far as all the other technical things, they were pretty well answered, and the machine performed—I think the word \"flawlessly\" might be a bit of a misnomer, but virtually flawlessly. It did everything we expected it to do, without any major modifications."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been very satisfying for you."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:81", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 21.556346941206908, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was. Yes, it was. As a matter of fact, when it was canceled, I got home and I told my wife, \"You know, I've been laid off.\" Everybody in the plant was laid off. Fourteen thousand people were laid off at three o'clock in the afternoon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Unbelievable."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And she looked at me and she laughed. It wasn't until the next day that she finally realized I was telling her the truth, when I was looking through the paper for jobs. A friend of mine who ran a poultry processing operation, I mean designing of equipment for poultry processing, offered me a job at about a quarter of the pay I'd been making at AVRO. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, dear."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But that was very good of him, anyway. But that Sunday evening I received a call from AVRO and they asked me to come back, so I didn't even miss one day of work. About 1,000 of the 14,000 were brought back. The reason they were brought back was to help shut the place down in an orderly fashion. The company had some ideas of organizing the out-of-work engineers into teams and letting them out to do other tasks. So I had the most unpleasant task of interviewing my comrades and asking them about their education and their experience and so forth, and writing it down. It almost would have been better to be with them than to have done that. As far as I know, I don't think they ever got any other jobs.\\n\\n So about two months after that, the opportunity came. I stayed on to work on some large radar antennas that were going to be put up on the northern part of Canada. And we got the job offer to go to NASA."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you hear about that opportunity?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:89", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.504415395834336, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "—doing very poorly. After two or three months with me phoning her and making one or two trips back, telling her about how wonderful it was swimming down on the nice beaches in Buckroe Beach, she said, \"Look. I'm not sitting here any longer.\" As soon as the kids got out of school, she came down and we rented the house for a few years until we could sell it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. That's good. It must have been hard having the family up in—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It really was tough. I remember, I guess, about fifteen years after we were married, we were talking at a New Year's party or something, I said, \"You know, those first fifteen years of my life (this was quite a few years later) were the happiest of my life.\" And out of the dead silence in there, my wife said, \"They weren't for me.\" [Laughter] Sitting at home, settling arguments between two little children in the dead of winter, with no car sometimes. It was awful. And here I thought I was a very sensitive, caring person, and I had never realized that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am I getting off the track?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not at all. Not at all. To jump back just a little bit, Sputnik was launched while actually the Arrow was still active and you were working up there."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 16.116017106482595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It really was tough. I remember, I guess, about fifteen years after we were married, we were talking at a New Year's party or something, I said, \"You know, those first fifteen years of my life (this was quite a few years later) were the happiest of my life.\" And out of the dead silence in there, my wife said, \"They weren't for me.\" [Laughter] Sitting at home, settling arguments between two little children in the dead of winter, with no car sometimes. It was awful. And here I thought I was a very sensitive, caring person, and I had never realized that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Am I getting off the track?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not at all. Not at all. To jump back just a little bit, Sputnik was launched while actually the Arrow was still active and you were working up there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's correct."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did that have at the time any impact on you? Or was there any discussion about it around AVRO?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.422979890996174, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They did not have our good interests at heart. To think of them orbiting something right over our cities—of course, at that time we didn't know it was a small basketball-shaped thing—but that was very scary. It was very scary."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we knew the moon orbited the Earth, but we didn't think of man being able to make artificial satellites like that. The word \"satellite\" was hardly used. \"Environment\" was a new word in those days. We didn't even talk about the environment at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To give you an idea of the lack of discussion or knowledge or interest in what we now call the environment, my father, as I said, worked for the Inspection Board [of] the United Kingdom and Canada, and one of his jobs was to supervise the manufacture of mustard gas in Canada, which was never used, of course. But we were ready. If the Germans used it, they would have got it back very fast, and I guess they knew that. But to give you an idea of what happened, the entire production of that plant during the war was put on two large barges and towed out into the Atlantic Ocean and sunk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really? Oh, my."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:101", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.136644323329083, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we knew the moon orbited the Earth, but we didn't think of man being able to make artificial satellites like that. The word \"satellite\" was hardly used. \"Environment\" was a new word in those days. We didn't even talk about the environment at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To give you an idea of the lack of discussion or knowledge or interest in what we now call the environment, my father, as I said, worked for the Inspection Board [of] the United Kingdom and Canada, and one of his jobs was to supervise the manufacture of mustard gas in Canada, which was never used, of course. But we were ready. If the Germans used it, they would have got it back very fast, and I guess they knew that. But to give you an idea of what happened, the entire production of that plant during the war was put on two large barges and towed out into the Atlantic Ocean and sunk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really? Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The logic being, the cans, barrels, will corrode in time and gradually release the contents and it shouldn't hurt anything. And that was it. But can you imagine that happening today? [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that would cause a little furor. That's interesting."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:105", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 20.04523990534455, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The logic being, the cans, barrels, will corrode in time and gradually release the contents and it shouldn't hurt anything. And that was it. But can you imagine that happening today? [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that would cause a little furor. That's interesting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As a historian, you must realize that people's perceptions of things were greatly different then than they are today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The manned bomber was our threat then, although about that time I did become aware that there had been work on ICBMs [Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles] going on, just in magazines, and I didn't quite know what they were at first. So that was my introduction to suddenly it's in your face space, you know. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When the U.S. started making attempts to get a satellite up and those were unsuccessful at first, was that a cause for concern as well?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 18.8212838337587, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The manned bomber was our threat then, although about that time I did become aware that there had been work on ICBMs [Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles] going on, just in magazines, and I didn't quite know what they were at first. So that was my introduction to suddenly it's in your face space, you know. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When the U.S. started making attempts to get a satellite up and those were unsuccessful at first, was that a cause for concern as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it was more of like watching a Charlie Chaplin movie to us. We just laughed. [Laughter] It was at the Vanguard Project by the Navy, wasn't it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A week or month after month, there it would go, blow up on the pad, full of glory. So they were sort of the laughingstock at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when you heard about Explorer going up and being successful?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:111", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 19.80142648195411, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it was more of like watching a Charlie Chaplin movie to us. We just laughed. [Laughter] It was at the Vanguard Project by the Navy, wasn't it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A week or month after month, there it would go, blow up on the pad, full of glory. So they were sort of the laughingstock at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when you heard about Explorer going up and being successful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do recall that, but I didn't know much about it. That was Redstone arsenal. Yes. In fact, it was Wernher von Braun that finally got into the act and got something up into space. They used a Redstone or something like a Redstone, didn't they?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Jupiter C, just a modified version."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:113", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.779362757726787, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A week or month after month, there it would go, blow up on the pad, full of glory. So they were sort of the laughingstock at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember when you heard about Explorer going up and being successful?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do recall that, but I didn't know much about it. That was Redstone arsenal. Yes. In fact, it was Wernher von Braun that finally got into the act and got something up into space. They used a Redstone or something like a Redstone, didn't they?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Jupiter C, just a modified version."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That was the first. Mercury shot was on a Redstone. I remember that very well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talking about Mercury, we talked about how you came down to NASA and went down to Virginia. When you came down, what was the reception like for you coming into the newly formed Space Task Group?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:115", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 21.97706973080754, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I do recall that, but I didn't know much about it. That was Redstone arsenal. Yes. In fact, it was Wernher von Braun that finally got into the act and got something up into space. They used a Redstone or something like a Redstone, didn't they?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Jupiter C, just a modified version."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That was the first. Mercury shot was on a Redstone. I remember that very well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talking about Mercury, we talked about how you came down to NASA and went down to Virginia. When you came down, what was the reception like for you coming into the newly formed Space Task Group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Did I mention before how we actually came across?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No. Why don't you tell us about that."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 20.095147815811774, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Did I mention before how we actually came across?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No. Why don't you tell us about that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. The U.S. Consulate in Toronto was shut down in the afternoons until the thirty of us were processed through, and we came through on a special act of Congress, the first thirty of us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reason that we were hired, I think, was partly because the pay scale in the rest of industry in the U.S. was about 30 percent greater than NASA was paying in those days, and they couldn't really attract anyone from U.S. aviation to go and work there. I'm sorry, I said 30. The pay scales in the rest of industry were about 15 percent higher than NASA could pay, but ours were about 15 percent lower in Canada, but 30 percent lower than U.S. industry. So we could go to NASA for a pay increase. Of course, the fact that we were out of work also had something to do with it. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Big incentive. [Laughter]"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.883497573124192, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. The U.S. Consulate in Toronto was shut down in the afternoons until the thirty of us were processed through, and we came through on a special act of Congress, the first thirty of us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reason that we were hired, I think, was partly because the pay scale in the rest of industry in the U.S. was about 30 percent greater than NASA was paying in those days, and they couldn't really attract anyone from U.S. aviation to go and work there. I'm sorry, I said 30. The pay scales in the rest of industry were about 15 percent higher than NASA could pay, but ours were about 15 percent lower in Canada, but 30 percent lower than U.S. industry. So we could go to NASA for a pay increase. Of course, the fact that we were out of work also had something to do with it. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Big incentive. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I think that they recognized—actually, we didn't do the design of Project Mercury. That was done by Max [Maxime A.] Faget and the people from Wallops Island, I think under Bob Gilruth, even at that time. And those guys were really brilliant, not only technically but in their ability to handle the government of the United States and get funds. That I take my hat off to them. That was a really creditable job they did. But they did not have the engineering manpower, and that's what they needed, and that's why we were hired to come down, to make their ideas work. And that's what we did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you did make them work, that's for sure."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:123", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 19.87055285902688, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The reason that we were hired, I think, was partly because the pay scale in the rest of industry in the U.S. was about 30 percent greater than NASA was paying in those days, and they couldn't really attract anyone from U.S. aviation to go and work there. I'm sorry, I said 30. The pay scales in the rest of industry were about 15 percent higher than NASA could pay, but ours were about 15 percent lower in Canada, but 30 percent lower than U.S. industry. So we could go to NASA for a pay increase. Of course, the fact that we were out of work also had something to do with it. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Big incentive. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I think that they recognized—actually, we didn't do the design of Project Mercury. That was done by Max [Maxime A.] Faget and the people from Wallops Island, I think under Bob Gilruth, even at that time. And those guys were really brilliant, not only technically but in their ability to handle the government of the United States and get funds. That I take my hat off to them. That was a really creditable job they did. But they did not have the engineering manpower, and that's what they needed, and that's why we were hired to come down, to make their ideas work. And that's what we did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you did make them work, that's for sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was quite an interesting whole thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Many people have said that without your group that came down, without the AVRO group, that NASA wouldn't have gotten where it did in the amount of time it did. Do you have any thoughts on that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:133", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 21.423822349280897, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was great. My job on that test was to look at—what do you call it? The organ-pipe mode in the [inlets]. The shock ingested into it would result in an oscillation of the air inside that gave overpressures, and I had to keep track of when that happened.\\n\\n The only thing we changed was this reverse scoop underneath. We made it larger. What this did was suck air [off] the perforated inlet, the boundary-layer air, and then it went out through [the] reverse scoop. That's so that the shock boundary layer interaction going into the inlet wouldn't be too severe. It was called intake buzz. I was trying to remember the word. Intake buzz is what I looked after on that test. We actually had high-speed 12,000-frames-per-second movies showing the shock buzzing in and out of the inlet…The machine itself—John [D.] Hodge actually did the design of the inlet. He had, for some strange reason, had been looking after the loads [group]. He was my predecessor in flight loads at AVRO, and I took the job over from him. I worked in the loads group while he was the group leader, and then he went on to operations at Arrow operations, and later on he went to NASA as operations. Have you spoken to John?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We haven't had a chance to speak to him yet, although we are hoping to do so soon, possibly later this spring."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was a very close friend of ours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'll make sure to mention—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Say hi to him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. We're hoping to get up there, so if I do, I'll let you know that we are going to go see him. We're always glad to do what we can to pass words on for you."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:135", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.248691499200998, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was a very close friend of ours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'll make sure to mention—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Say hi to him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. We're hoping to get up there, so if I do, I'll let you know that we are going to go see him. We're always glad to do what we can to pass words on for you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "His family and my family, way back then and up till the time I left the Manned Spacecraft Center [MSC] in Houston, then we went to Rocky Mountain National Park once after that, and that's the last time I guess I saw him…maybe '6[6], I think. I can't remember. A few years later was the last time we saw him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's been a few years."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:137", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 20.27632388800111, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Say hi to him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. We're hoping to get up there, so if I do, I'll let you know that we are going to go see him. We're always glad to do what we can to pass words on for you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "His family and my family, way back then and up till the time I left the Manned Spacecraft Center [MSC] in Houston, then we went to Rocky Mountain National Park once after that, and that's the last time I guess I saw him…maybe '6[6], I think. I can't remember. A few years later was the last time we saw him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's been a few years."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's been a while, yes. So I got off the track there. What was the question again?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We were talking about—that's a good question, what the question was. I think we were talking about the AVRO group coming into NASA and how you fit in and how you were accepted."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:139", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 21.418137653334565, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "His family and my family, way back then and up till the time I left the Manned Spacecraft Center [MSC] in Houston, then we went to Rocky Mountain National Park once after that, and that's the last time I guess I saw him…maybe '6[6], I think. I can't remember. A few years later was the last time we saw him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's been a few years."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's been a while, yes. So I got off the track there. What was the question again?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We were talking about—that's a good question, what the question was. I think we were talking about the AVRO group coming into NASA and how you fit in and how you were accepted."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I noticed that things were a lot different at NASA than I'd expected them to be. I'd read a lot of NASA reports and had tremendous respect for [the authors], and I found that there were some very, very—well, there were a lot of older, better, very knowledgeable engineers, scientists, really, and I got along with them. Houbolt was one of them. I took courses from him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "While you were at NASA, you took courses from him?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:141", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 20.464597392593962, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's been a while, yes. So I got off the track there. What was the question again?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We were talking about—that's a good question, what the question was. I think we were talking about the AVRO group coming into NASA and how you fit in and how you were accepted."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I noticed that things were a lot different at NASA than I'd expected them to be. I'd read a lot of NASA reports and had tremendous respect for [the authors], and I found that there were some very, very—well, there were a lot of older, better, very knowledgeable engineers, scientists, really, and I got along with them. Houbolt was one of them. I took courses from him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "While you were at NASA, you took courses from him?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. [NASA] offered very good training programs there through the University of Virginia and the Virginia Polytechnic Institute. They were offered at NASA [Langley], so we could just go over there and take these courses. I took several courses from him, and later on he wrote the letter of recommendation that allowed me to go to school at Caltech."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that's great."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:143", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 20.5162193251044, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I noticed that things were a lot different at NASA than I'd expected them to be. I'd read a lot of NASA reports and had tremendous respect for [the authors], and I found that there were some very, very—well, there were a lot of older, better, very knowledgeable engineers, scientists, really, and I got along with them. Houbolt was one of them. I took courses from him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "While you were at NASA, you took courses from him?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. [NASA] offered very good training programs there through the University of Virginia and the Virginia Polytechnic Institute. They were offered at NASA [Langley], so we could just go over there and take these courses. I took several courses from him, and later on he wrote the letter of recommendation that allowed me to go to school at Caltech."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that's great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He helped me to go there. So that was great. So we had a corps of people that were quite experienced, and in supersonic flight…Some of Project Mercury's flight [path] was at subsonic speed and [some at] supersonic speed...How to test, what to do, and what was important and what wasn't important…Some of the inexperienced new people [were from] NASA—NASA was one year old at that time, [and] they didn't know much about engineering, and that really kind of dumbfounded us a bit, that some of the things they did not appreciate, but then again, that wasn't their work [and they were very young too].\\n\\n So, I don't know, I guess I can't answer your question whether it could have been done or not. I just know that we were there and we did it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good enough. Just looking for your thoughts on it."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:145", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 21.68468813900489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. [NASA] offered very good training programs there through the University of Virginia and the Virginia Polytechnic Institute. They were offered at NASA [Langley], so we could just go over there and take these courses. I took several courses from him, and later on he wrote the letter of recommendation that allowed me to go to school at Caltech."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that's great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He helped me to go there. So that was great. So we had a corps of people that were quite experienced, and in supersonic flight…Some of Project Mercury's flight [path] was at subsonic speed and [some at] supersonic speed...How to test, what to do, and what was important and what wasn't important…Some of the inexperienced new people [were from] NASA—NASA was one year old at that time, [and] they didn't know much about engineering, and that really kind of dumbfounded us a bit, that some of the things they did not appreciate, but then again, that wasn't their work [and they were very young too].\\n\\n So, I don't know, I guess I can't answer your question whether it could have been done or not. I just know that we were there and we did it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good enough. Just looking for your thoughts on it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were a lot of very good guys at NASA, like Al [Alan B.] Kehlet. Have you spoken to him?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, not yet. Not yet."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:147", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 19.649653487783212, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He helped me to go there. So that was great. So we had a corps of people that were quite experienced, and in supersonic flight…Some of Project Mercury's flight [path] was at subsonic speed and [some at] supersonic speed...How to test, what to do, and what was important and what wasn't important…Some of the inexperienced new people [were from] NASA—NASA was one year old at that time, [and] they didn't know much about engineering, and that really kind of dumbfounded us a bit, that some of the things they did not appreciate, but then again, that wasn't their work [and they were very young too].\\n\\n So, I don't know, I guess I can't answer your question whether it could have been done or not. I just know that we were there and we did it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good enough. Just looking for your thoughts on it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were a lot of very good guys at NASA, like Al [Alan B.] Kehlet. Have you spoken to him?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, not yet. Not yet."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, say hi to him. He…designed the Apollo capsule, reentry capsule. I was there when he designed that, the aerodynamic design of that. He later became a high muckamuck in North American. I haven't seen him. I just saw something in the paper about him one day a couple of years ago.\\n\\n To get back to your question about how we were treated by NASA, and I guess we were talking about Al Kehlet. That's a good place to answer your question. We were very warmly received into NASA, very warmly received, and we were treated very well. Al Kehlet particularly, he and his wife [Lois], took my wife and myself and the kids out in their motorboat, out to an island out in the sound, where we had a barbecue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, that's nice."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:149", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.72183720864801, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were a lot of very good guys at NASA, like Al [Alan B.] Kehlet. Have you spoken to him?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, not yet. Not yet."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, say hi to him. He…designed the Apollo capsule, reentry capsule. I was there when he designed that, the aerodynamic design of that. He later became a high muckamuck in North American. I haven't seen him. I just saw something in the paper about him one day a couple of years ago.\\n\\n To get back to your question about how we were treated by NASA, and I guess we were talking about Al Kehlet. That's a good place to answer your question. We were very warmly received into NASA, very warmly received, and we were treated very well. Al Kehlet particularly, he and his wife [Lois], took my wife and myself and the kids out in their motorboat, out to an island out in the sound, where we had a barbecue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, that's nice."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, it was really very nice, a picnic. I had a section there and I had people, NASA people, some new hires in the group. May Meadows worked for me. She had worked at NASA a long time. I'd read papers that she'd co-authored, in fact, on turbulence response."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May Meadows was a woman engineer?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:151", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 23.024263565164457, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, say hi to him. He…designed the Apollo capsule, reentry capsule. I was there when he designed that, the aerodynamic design of that. He later became a high muckamuck in North American. I haven't seen him. I just saw something in the paper about him one day a couple of years ago.\\n\\n To get back to your question about how we were treated by NASA, and I guess we were talking about Al Kehlet. That's a good place to answer your question. We were very warmly received into NASA, very warmly received, and we were treated very well. Al Kehlet particularly, he and his wife [Lois], took my wife and myself and the kids out in their motorboat, out to an island out in the sound, where we had a barbecue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, that's nice."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, it was really very nice, a picnic. I had a section there and I had people, NASA people, some new hires in the group. May Meadows worked for me. She had worked at NASA a long time. I'd read papers that she'd co-authored, in fact, on turbulence response."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May Meadows was a woman engineer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been different at the time."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:153", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 22.249181739071616, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, it was really very nice, a picnic. I had a section there and I had people, NASA people, some new hires in the group. May Meadows worked for me. She had worked at NASA a long time. I'd read papers that she'd co-authored, in fact, on turbulence response."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "May Meadows was a woman engineer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been different at the time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were a few women engineers there, or scientists, I guess, more properly. She particularly welcomed us. The kids loved her. She introduced us to Southern cooking. She was from North Carolina. She became a very warm friend of the whole family's. Dick Carley knew her, too. She was very nice, a very nice person.\\n\\n So the answer, it was very nice to go there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It must have been nice to see after having just had this massive layoff and trying to find a job, and being so well accepted."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:155", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 21.387979710079573, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been different at the time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were a few women engineers there, or scientists, I guess, more properly. She particularly welcomed us. The kids loved her. She introduced us to Southern cooking. She was from North Carolina. She became a very warm friend of the whole family's. Dick Carley knew her, too. She was very nice, a very nice person.\\n\\n So the answer, it was very nice to go there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It must have been nice to see after having just had this massive layoff and trying to find a job, and being so well accepted."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We lived on Foxhill Road there, and the kids went to a little school out at the end of the road, and they loved that. [Our house] was only about two miles from the south gate at Langley, where we worked, so it was just idyllic, just beautiful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The family liked coming down to Virginia?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:157", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 23.764421900088415, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were a few women engineers there, or scientists, I guess, more properly. She particularly welcomed us. The kids loved her. She introduced us to Southern cooking. She was from North Carolina. She became a very warm friend of the whole family's. Dick Carley knew her, too. She was very nice, a very nice person.\\n\\n So the answer, it was very nice to go there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It must have been nice to see after having just had this massive layoff and trying to find a job, and being so well accepted."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We lived on Foxhill Road there, and the kids went to a little school out at the end of the road, and they loved that. [Our house] was only about two miles from the south gate at Langley, where we worked, so it was just idyllic, just beautiful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The family liked coming down to Virginia?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, they really loved that. Fish fries and things. Yes. The kids used to love catching crabs with a piece of chicken neck on a string, [lower] it down and then swoop a net underneath and catch the crab, and boil them and have them for dinner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been fun for them."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:159", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 26.40491322232046, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We lived on Foxhill Road there, and the kids went to a little school out at the end of the road, and they loved that. [Our house] was only about two miles from the south gate at Langley, where we worked, so it was just idyllic, just beautiful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The family liked coming down to Virginia?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, they really loved that. Fish fries and things. Yes. The kids used to love catching crabs with a piece of chicken neck on a string, [lower] it down and then swoop a net underneath and catch the crab, and boil them and have them for dinner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been fun for them."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you did come to NASA, what did you first work on there, or what division were you in?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:161", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 29.338792469244954, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, they really loved that. Fish fries and things. Yes. The kids used to love catching crabs with a piece of chicken neck on a string, [lower] it down and then swoop a net underneath and catch the crab, and boil them and have them for dinner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been fun for them."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you did come to NASA, what did you first work on there, or what division were you in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Want to take a break?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:163", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 32.59865829916106, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you did come to NASA, what did you first work on there, or what division were you in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Want to take a break?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'd like a little bit of water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. [Brief interruption.]\\n\\n I guess now we could move into what you did when you first came to NASA and what you were involved with."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:165", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 31.77628699906784, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Want to take a break?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'd like a little bit of water."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. [Brief interruption.]\\n\\n I guess now we could move into what you did when you first came to NASA and what you were involved with."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Essentially my duties were very similar to those at AVRO. I was put in charge of flight loads analysis on Project Mercury. I was the section head of loads. That was my title. I worked under Max Faget. Jim Chamberlin, I guess, arranged that, and I went to work for Max. Then Bob [Robert O.] Piland—do you know him?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, we've been able to talk to him."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:183", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 18.483307394379526, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the early days, NASA was so penurious or so out of money, or whatever, that we didn't even fly on commercial airliners, which were all propeller [driven] in those days. NASA had its own DC-3, and it used to fly us around from place to place and a whole group of us from Langley Field to St. Louis or to Cleveland or to Florida."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been an experience."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we shared motel rooms. I remember, in fact…I shared a motel room with John [H.] Glenn [Jr.] one day. Of course, he was just a brand-new astronaut, ex-Marine pilot, and wasn't famous at that time. But, I mean, it was a no-nonsense operation. It was done very efficiently, economically."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It must have helped to be able to get things done when you needed them to."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. It was important, too, that we had a great deal of flexibility to make changes, and without that we would have been totally dead. They were always debated beforehand, and we used to have a big meeting downstairs in the—I've forgotten the number of the building now. You probably know it. On the south side of—let's see. Which side? On the Hampton side of the field, anyway. Have you been there?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, I have not been to Langley. I've been up to Goddard once, briefly, but I haven't had the opportunity to get to Langley yet, although we're hoping to make a trip out to the East Coast sometime this spring, so hopefully then."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:189", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.69452317473186, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The only person I knew from Goddard was a man whose name, by the way, was also Butler. Tom Butler. He was the person who first acquainted me with the idea that NASTRAN, a structural analysis model, would be required on all contracts submitted to the government for adjudication. But I won't go into that here, I guess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where was I? I was talking about how they operated. So I had a little office upstairs with my people in it, and aerodynamics, with Al Kehlet, was next door. The thermodynamics, with Ken [Kenneth C.] Weston, was up there also. The operations people were in another building. That's where John Hodge and Tom [Thomas V.] Chambers and all those guys were, Fred [C. Frederick] Matthews. So I wasn't very intimate with the astronauts. We had occasional problems we had to deal with.\\n\\n I remember one time a funny one, in a way, and that was that a pogo-stick oscillation in Mercury Redstone. I was asked to look into it a little bit by Jim Chamberlin, who was a very modest gentleman, but, I mean, superb man, my idol, I guess. I said, \"Okay, fine, I'll look into it. What's the problem?\" He says, \"Well, the astronauts don't like what's going on?\" I said, \"Well, what is it?\" Oscillations [can] cause your eyeballs so you can't focus and you get tunnel vision. That's one thing in fighter airplanes that happens on the older airplanes, [in] the low altitude gust penetration. He wouldn't tell me. Finally, I said, \"Look, I've got to know.\" He says, \"It's testicular pain.\" [Laughter] \"Okay.\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "\"Okay, we'll work on that one.\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was funny. I just had to tell you that one story."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's good to hear."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:191", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.216136860813178, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Where was I? I was talking about how they operated. So I had a little office upstairs with my people in it, and aerodynamics, with Al Kehlet, was next door. The thermodynamics, with Ken [Kenneth C.] Weston, was up there also. The operations people were in another building. That's where John Hodge and Tom [Thomas V.] Chambers and all those guys were, Fred [C. Frederick] Matthews. So I wasn't very intimate with the astronauts. We had occasional problems we had to deal with.\\n\\n I remember one time a funny one, in a way, and that was that a pogo-stick oscillation in Mercury Redstone. I was asked to look into it a little bit by Jim Chamberlin, who was a very modest gentleman, but, I mean, superb man, my idol, I guess. I said, \"Okay, fine, I'll look into it. What's the problem?\" He says, \"Well, the astronauts don't like what's going on?\" I said, \"Well, what is it?\" Oscillations [can] cause your eyeballs so you can't focus and you get tunnel vision. That's one thing in fighter airplanes that happens on the older airplanes, [in] the low altitude gust penetration. He wouldn't tell me. Finally, I said, \"Look, I've got to know.\" He says, \"It's testicular pain.\" [Laughter] \"Okay.\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "\"Okay, we'll work on that one.\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was funny. I just had to tell you that one story."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's good to hear."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Share some of the intricacies of—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:195", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.78535414915207, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Share some of the intricacies of—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. [Laughter] How modest people don't wish to discuss things like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The aeromedical problems, they did a lot, and I used to hear about a lot of these things because I had to go to the meetings on loads, where they covered a lot of subjects. They were very interesting, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure. This was all very new, because we hadn't put men in space before. Coming up with a new design for the capsule, to do that, figuring out how to get them up there without too many little problems here and there, and getting them through it alive."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:197", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.872615721280077, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. [Laughter] How modest people don't wish to discuss things like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The aeromedical problems, they did a lot, and I used to hear about a lot of these things because I had to go to the meetings on loads, where they covered a lot of subjects. They were very interesting, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure. This was all very new, because we hadn't put men in space before. Coming up with a new design for the capsule, to do that, figuring out how to get them up there without too many little problems here and there, and getting them through it alive."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, yes. We took elaborate pains to see that—as far as safety was concerned. Not just structural safety, which is what I was involved in, but safety from every other aspect, too. So we would have multiple backup systems. If one system failed, we would switch to another system. We tried to have them all operating under different physical principles. I mean, if they're all electrical and you had electrical failure, you'd lose them all. So we'd have, say, an electrical one and a hydraulic and then a manual backup. So we had at least three backups for every conceivable failure that we could think of. And I think it was that meticulous attention to safety that resulted in no astronauts being killed in flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. That's very good."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:199", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 23.19179524586675, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The aeromedical problems, they did a lot, and I used to hear about a lot of these things because I had to go to the meetings on loads, where they covered a lot of subjects. They were very interesting, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure. This was all very new, because we hadn't put men in space before. Coming up with a new design for the capsule, to do that, figuring out how to get them up there without too many little problems here and there, and getting them through it alive."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, yes. We took elaborate pains to see that—as far as safety was concerned. Not just structural safety, which is what I was involved in, but safety from every other aspect, too. So we would have multiple backup systems. If one system failed, we would switch to another system. We tried to have them all operating under different physical principles. I mean, if they're all electrical and you had electrical failure, you'd lose them all. So we'd have, say, an electrical one and a hydraulic and then a manual backup. So we had at least three backups for every conceivable failure that we could think of. And I think it was that meticulous attention to safety that resulted in no astronauts being killed in flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. That's very good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the questions farther down was, what did I find [to be] the most important thing to me, and that was that there were no structural failures that led to any death or serious injury on anything I worked on. So that was my greatest reward on the projects."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's definitely rewarding."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:201", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 23.546439162074165, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, yes. We took elaborate pains to see that—as far as safety was concerned. Not just structural safety, which is what I was involved in, but safety from every other aspect, too. So we would have multiple backup systems. If one system failed, we would switch to another system. We tried to have them all operating under different physical principles. I mean, if they're all electrical and you had electrical failure, you'd lose them all. So we'd have, say, an electrical one and a hydraulic and then a manual backup. So we had at least three backups for every conceivable failure that we could think of. And I think it was that meticulous attention to safety that resulted in no astronauts being killed in flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. That's very good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the questions farther down was, what did I find [to be] the most important thing to me, and that was that there were no structural failures that led to any death or serious injury on anything I worked on. So that was my greatest reward on the projects."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's definitely rewarding."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had seen, at AVRO, a pilot eject at low altitude after having both wingtips break off, and he got entangled with his oxygen mask, and saw [him], or his life [support] system fall into the weeds. I didn't see it myself personally, but somebody had taken photographs on an 8-millimeter movie camera at an air show, and I analyzed those frame by frame to find out what had happened. Once you've seen that, you take your work very, very seriously."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. That's a hard way to have to go about it."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:209", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 23.22273915877787, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was the simplest and most direct way to do it, and with the small lifting capacity of the Atlas, which was, I think, about the only booster they had in those days, they didn't have a lot of choice. So that became very clear. In fact, one of my chief worries on that project was that the weight would grow too high to go into orbit, and I was responsible for increasing the weight a couple of times when the radiation shingles had [to be] made of thicker material to resist burn-through on reentry, and that bothered me a lot. I did wind-tunnel tests on panel flutter, [in the] Unitary Plan Tunnel on another side of the field [at Langley]. We did tests at Daingerfield, Texas, in a Navy Hotshot Tunnel, where we actually had heated air that simulated the reentry, and you could just see it knifing though the thin panel. So we did recommend thicker ones, and they were used on the machine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is the paneling on the side?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the radiation shingles. It had a beryllium heat sink on the tail cone back there, and so they actually had both kinds of heat shields. I notice you later asked about that. Walt West…supervised the tests at Daingerfield, Texas. I think he's retired now. I heard that a few years ago. I haven't heard of Bill Rogers. Do you know of him?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He may still be there, for all I know. He was a little younger than I was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We can look and see what we can find."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:211", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 23.580821287530966, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the radiation shingles. It had a beryllium heat sink on the tail cone back there, and so they actually had both kinds of heat shields. I notice you later asked about that. Walt West…supervised the tests at Daingerfield, Texas. I think he's retired now. I heard that a few years ago. I haven't heard of Bill Rogers. Do you know of him?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He may still be there, for all I know. He was a little younger than I was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We can look and see what we can find."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He could sure give you a lot of information about that period, and if you can dig up Walt West, you'll probably find him fishing on some bayou…somewhere. [Laughter] I remember he and I were running along the beach in Florida one night during one of the shots, just for exercise, and we got really hot, so I ran into the water. He came out swimming with me and came back to shore, and he says, \"You know, George, that isn't a very good idea. The sharks come in to shore to feed at night.\" [Laughter] \"Oh, thanks.\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good of him to warn you, although it would have been good to know earlier. [Laughter]"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:213", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 26.200912541701072, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He may still be there, for all I know. He was a little younger than I was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We can look and see what we can find."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He could sure give you a lot of information about that period, and if you can dig up Walt West, you'll probably find him fishing on some bayou…somewhere. [Laughter] I remember he and I were running along the beach in Florida one night during one of the shots, just for exercise, and we got really hot, so I ran into the water. He came out swimming with me and came back to shore, and he says, \"You know, George, that isn't a very good idea. The sharks come in to shore to feed at night.\" [Laughter] \"Oh, thanks.\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good of him to warn you, although it would have been good to know earlier. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talking about some of the structural and talking about the Atlas a little bit, I know you weren't directly involved with the Atlas part, but did you have any concerns or was there anything you did knowing that the Atlas was having some problems with stability and being able to launch successfully and so forth? Were you at all involved in—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:225", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 22.36340918691081, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It worked fine, came down on the parachute and everything. Somewhere I have a copy of a 16-millimeter movie of that, and I don't know where it is. If I find it, I'll let you know, unless you have a copy of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, not that I'm aware of."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I used it in a lecture at University of Houston on structural loads, and I ended it by saying, \"And if you're not successful, this is what happens.\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Laughter] That's a big incentive. That's great. I think we'll take a quick break here and change the tape over.\n\n... some of the work you've been doing. At this time were you also working on the parachute work with Mercury? Was that some of what you were doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course, we used parachutes, but most of the parachute design work was under John Lee, John B. Lee. Have you spoken with him?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, not yet."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:243", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.436416048483203, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Get Ken Weston and Bob Ried. I can't remember the other man's name [John Bertin]. He's now a professor at the University of Texas, has written books on aerodynamics. I should remember his name. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It'll probably come to you. That's W-E-S-T-O-N?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "T-O-N. Ken. A student of W. E. Moekel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As we're talking about the heat shields and the stresses on entry and so forth, during John Glenn's flight there was indications of potentially the heat shield had deployed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean his Mercury flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "His Mercury flight, yes. I guess I need to remind myself now he's had two of them. During his Mercury flight, there was indications that the heat shield had deployed and then there was talk about leaving on the retrorocket pack. Were you involved at all in looking at how that could affect his reentry?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:245", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.818240053870225, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "T-O-N. Ken. A student of W. E. Moekel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As we're talking about the heat shields and the stresses on entry and so forth, during John Glenn's flight there was indications of potentially the heat shield had deployed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean his Mercury flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "His Mercury flight, yes. I guess I need to remind myself now he's had two of them. During his Mercury flight, there was indications that the heat shield had deployed and then there was talk about leaving on the retrorocket pack. Were you involved at all in looking at how that could affect his reentry?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I remember that now that you mention it. I hadn't remembered it. I can't remember whether they left it on or not. Did they leave it on?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They ended up leaving it on."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:247", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.353600059855806, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You mean his Mercury flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "His Mercury flight, yes. I guess I need to remind myself now he's had two of them. During his Mercury flight, there was indications that the heat shield had deployed and then there was talk about leaving on the retrorocket pack. Were you involved at all in looking at how that could affect his reentry?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I remember that now that you mention it. I hadn't remembered it. I can't remember whether they left it on or not. Did they leave it on?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They ended up leaving it on."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What was the question again?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was wondering if maybe you were involved in any discussion."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:249", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.059555622062007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I remember that now that you mention it. I hadn't remembered it. I can't remember whether they left it on or not. Did they leave it on?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They ended up leaving it on."}, {"role": "user", "content": "What was the question again?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was wondering if maybe you were involved in any discussion."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the thermodynamics of that problem?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even as to if they left it on, would it cause any loads or stresses that would affect—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:253", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 21.061179780323467, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the thermodynamics of that problem?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even as to if they left it on, would it cause any loads or stresses that would affect—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would have to be burned off in that case, and the question is then what happens to the products of that as they impinge on the heat shield. I wasn't in on the discussions of what to do. I guess it was just it came up and was during the flight, and they had to—I couldn't remember whether they elected to come in with it on or not. They did, didn't they?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They did."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think what they were afraid of, and this is really speculation on my part, was that if they released the retrorocket, they might have also released the heat shield, which was deployable on a big accordion-like thing that broke the water impact shock. If that had happened and the heat shield were not attached, he's a cooked goose. [Laughter] So I can understand why they would elect to take that alternative and try it, rather than take the risk of it being fatal the other way. I guess they feel [at] the end that it really hadn't deployed, the heat shield hadn't deployed in flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I believe they found it was a faulty signal. Always better safe than sorry, I guess."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:255", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 23.401310867026073, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would have to be burned off in that case, and the question is then what happens to the products of that as they impinge on the heat shield. I wasn't in on the discussions of what to do. I guess it was just it came up and was during the flight, and they had to—I couldn't remember whether they elected to come in with it on or not. They did, didn't they?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They did."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think what they were afraid of, and this is really speculation on my part, was that if they released the retrorocket, they might have also released the heat shield, which was deployable on a big accordion-like thing that broke the water impact shock. If that had happened and the heat shield were not attached, he's a cooked goose. [Laughter] So I can understand why they would elect to take that alternative and try it, rather than take the risk of it being fatal the other way. I guess they feel [at] the end that it really hadn't deployed, the heat shield hadn't deployed in flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I believe they found it was a faulty signal. Always better safe than sorry, I guess."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you have to do what you think is the best course of action usually of two bad choices. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. We talked briefly about the launch escape system and that it was used at one time and did work successfully. How did you study that in relation to the capsule and how it would affect the flight and so forth?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:273", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.22885805357101, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably the launch, parachute swing, and that sort of thing also…carried over."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned going out to Caltech. When did you go out there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "'61, in the fall, and back in the spring of '62."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In 1961, as Mercury was just getting up to speed—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "—President [John F.] Kennedy said, \"We're going to go to the moon by the end of the decade and we're going to bring a man safely back, too.\" What did you think when you heard that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:277", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.986244510581493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "—President [John F.] Kennedy said, \"We're going to go to the moon by the end of the decade and we're going to bring a man safely back, too.\" What did you think when you heard that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, of course, I had known that we were planning to do that for some time, but, still, it was very stirring to hear him announce it…on a television set. But there's also sort of a little story there. John Hodge and his family were down in our back yard on Foxhill Road having a cookout or a picnic or a dinner…on a picnic table, a redwood table, I [made]. But anyway, as the moon came up over the horizon, John and I said to our wives, \"That's where we're going next.\" It was very emotional."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I bet."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we really were going to the moon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been something not just at that moment, but all throughout the years, as you were working on this, to see the moon most every night and see that as your target."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:279", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.540271678423881, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, of course, I had known that we were planning to do that for some time, but, still, it was very stirring to hear him announce it…on a television set. But there's also sort of a little story there. John Hodge and his family were down in our back yard on Foxhill Road having a cookout or a picnic or a dinner…on a picnic table, a redwood table, I [made]. But anyway, as the moon came up over the horizon, John and I said to our wives, \"That's where we're going next.\" It was very emotional."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I bet."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we really were going to the moon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been something not just at that moment, but all throughout the years, as you were working on this, to see the moon most every night and see that as your target."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a beautiful yellow moon. I remember it clearly. I remember the trees over the swamp…It was very wet, tidelands Virginia, and it was very impressive. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. Were your families excited about the opportunity?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:281", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 17.26696853158209, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we really were going to the moon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been something not just at that moment, but all throughout the years, as you were working on this, to see the moon most every night and see that as your target."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a beautiful yellow moon. I remember it clearly. I remember the trees over the swamp…It was very wet, tidelands Virginia, and it was very impressive. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. Were your families excited about the opportunity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I think so. They said, \"Would you like some more potato salad?\" [Laughter] They were used to us, of course."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you were working on Mercury and Apollo, did you have any involvement with Gemini?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:283", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 18.074409479535657, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a beautiful yellow moon. I remember it clearly. I remember the trees over the swamp…It was very wet, tidelands Virginia, and it was very impressive. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. Were your families excited about the opportunity?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I think so. They said, \"Would you like some more potato salad?\" [Laughter] They were used to us, of course."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As you were working on Mercury and Apollo, did you have any involvement with Gemini?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A little bit. Jim Chamberlin was…the man behind Gemini. It was…his planning and his doing that it came into being. Dick Carley had a lot to do with it, but I had very little to do with it. [Jim] had one problem on the Gemini adapter, which…had a large piece of equipment hanging off the inside of it, and he was worried about that vibrating loose during launch. So he and I sat on a plane and calculated the dynamic response of that, with the tools that I'd developed at Caltech, on the way to Florida. We decided that it was safe. They actually instrumented it, and when they flew it they found that the vibration response was about a third of what we'd predicted, so we were quite conservative, but at least we weren't unconservative.\\n\\n And I knew what was going on in Gemini. At least I knew some of what was going on with Gemini, but I didn't really do any loads on Gemini. That's strange, because Jim Chamberlin—in fact, sometimes they referred to Gemini as \"Jim and I.\" [Laughter] For Jim Chamberlin. He and I had worked very closely at AVRO since about 1951, so I had known him for a long, long time. He was always a controversial person, but he knew what he was doing. He knew what needed to be done, and he was very determined as well, but in a very nice way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very good. You've mentioned Jim Chamberlin a few times and some of the other individuals you worked with. It must have been good to work with such a group."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:295", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.956778794890976, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'll take a look, if that's okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There's this many pages, by the way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of notes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It looks like you could be ready to put together a book of your own."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:297", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 21.063087549878862, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There's this many pages, by the way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of notes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It looks like you could be ready to put together a book of your own."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably. I had often thought I was going to do that, so I was very glad when you came along and volunteered to relieve me of a lot of that work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, hopefully what we do here can help you if you do decide to pursue such an avenue."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:299", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 23.403430610976514, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of notes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It looks like you could be ready to put together a book of your own."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably. I had often thought I was going to do that, so I was very glad when you came along and volunteered to relieve me of a lot of that work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, hopefully what we do here can help you if you do decide to pursue such an avenue."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To let you know what I come up with?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, absolutely let us know what—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:301", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 23.78158956775168, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably. I had often thought I was going to do that, so I was very glad when you came along and volunteered to relieve me of a lot of that work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, hopefully what we do here can help you if you do decide to pursue such an avenue."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To let you know what I come up with?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, absolutely let us know what—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably more of the philosophical things is what I would put in a work of my own, I think, if I had more time to think about them.\\n\\n We rented the Pregnant Guppy to fly that adapter from Huntsville to Houston. I remember the number. It cost $28,000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, really. That must have been interesting."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:303", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 10, "return_to_go": 26.423988408612978, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To let you know what I come up with?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, absolutely let us know what—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably more of the philosophical things is what I would put in a work of my own, I think, if I had more time to think about them.\\n\\n We rented the Pregnant Guppy to fly that adapter from Huntsville to Houston. I remember the number. It cost $28,000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, really. That must have been interesting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember seeing it coming into view, flying along this huge, monstrous, bulbous body, and landing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been—of course, that has its own aerodynamic challenges."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:305", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 18.248876009569976, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably more of the philosophical things is what I would put in a work of my own, I think, if I had more time to think about them.\\n\\n We rented the Pregnant Guppy to fly that adapter from Huntsville to Houston. I remember the number. It cost $28,000."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, really. That must have been interesting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember seeing it coming into view, flying along this huge, monstrous, bulbous body, and landing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been—of course, that has its own aerodynamic challenges."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, just another thing. Just to continue a little bit with how things developed, we didn't get into Apollo yet too much, did we here? On Apollo, when I came back from Caltech, a few—I don't remember exactly when, but a few months after that, I guess maybe a year, a few months after that, I was promoted to the branch as assistant branch chief, so I just got a little bit away from the actual daily loads work, and Milt Silveira took over my work from that point.\\n\\n A few other things I did. The last—okay. I was also a member of the TAG, the Technical Advisory Group, for SVAE, Shock Vibration and Associated Environments. That was a U.S. Navy civilian group with representatives from NASA Centers and a lot of naval centers that were in charge of recommending the release of classified documents related to shock and vibration. So that was kind of an interesting experience, working there. As a matter of fact, it was on a meeting with them up in California in 1964, at Asilomar up in—do you know where that is, up here at Monterey?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, I haven't been up there."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:307", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 16.943195566188862, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember seeing it coming into view, flying along this huge, monstrous, bulbous body, and landing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been—of course, that has its own aerodynamic challenges."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, just another thing. Just to continue a little bit with how things developed, we didn't get into Apollo yet too much, did we here? On Apollo, when I came back from Caltech, a few—I don't remember exactly when, but a few months after that, I guess maybe a year, a few months after that, I was promoted to the branch as assistant branch chief, so I just got a little bit away from the actual daily loads work, and Milt Silveira took over my work from that point.\\n\\n A few other things I did. The last—okay. I was also a member of the TAG, the Technical Advisory Group, for SVAE, Shock Vibration and Associated Environments. That was a U.S. Navy civilian group with representatives from NASA Centers and a lot of naval centers that were in charge of recommending the release of classified documents related to shock and vibration. So that was kind of an interesting experience, working there. As a matter of fact, it was on a meeting with them up in California in 1964, at Asilomar up in—do you know where that is, up here at Monterey?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, I haven't been up there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Monterey Peninsula. It's a beautiful place. I was walking along the beach and I found a dime on the sand, and I picked it up and I said, \"Mmm, is this an omen?\" And that fall I came to California. I don't know if that had a lot to do with it, but it was kind of cute.\\n\\n I think we've covered most of the things. My last job out there was as the assistant chief. I was also structures subsystem manager on the lunar excursion module. That was just for a few months before I left to go to Lockheed. Went to Grumman to see the machine and so forth. I also looked at—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you look at on that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:313", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.498210653208318, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mostly propellant tanks at that time. The short time I was working on it, it was mostly the liquid propellant tanks, these spherical, beautifully machined and designed tanks.\\n\\n But one thing I would like to also mention, relative to flight tests at the Cape, one of my jobs on Mercury and Apollo was to advise flight test instrumentation for structural test purposes, so we planned that. That was one of our tasks…to review the data as it was being accumulated during the flight and then analyze it afterwards and publish the results.\\n\\n I'll make a comment on that, something I recommended that was never followed, and that was the structural flight test instrumentation load levels were set so that if there had been a failure, they would have recorded what happened, but most of the flights, the loads were exceedingly small, so small that the instrumentation was not sensitive enough to pick up the information. So for most of the flights the instrumentation yielded nothing of scientific value. And one of the things I recommended, but wasn't able to [implement]—I said, \"Look. Let's take 10 percent of the instrumentation and set it for the levels we expect, so we can find out what's going on.\" You know, money being what it is, they didn't want to waste 10 percent on that. It \"was seen as a waste.\" So they didn't follow that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's too bad. That would have been interesting, I'm sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would have been interesting, but whether it would have helped the project, perhaps not. Maybe they were wise to save money. But you never know. And it's the curiosity, you know. The things you learn today serve you well on the next program, wherever you are. And I perhaps was preparing for the future."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were working with Apollo, were you also involved on the selection board for picking the contractors?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yes, I was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the criteria that you looked at?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:315", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 12, "return_to_go": 22.775789614675908, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would have been interesting, but whether it would have helped the project, perhaps not. Maybe they were wise to save money. But you never know. And it's the curiosity, you know. The things you learn today serve you well on the next program, wherever you are. And I perhaps was preparing for the future."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were working with Apollo, were you also involved on the selection board for picking the contractors?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yes, I was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the criteria that you looked at?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way the proposal would come in, there was a business proposal, of course, and technical proposal. Then that technical proposal was broken up into each different discipline. I participated in the review of those dealing with structural loads, of course with a lot of other NASA scientists and so forth doing the same thing. And so that's where I played a little part in the review of the proposals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were reviewing them, do you remember how many companies had turned in proposals?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:317", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.97309957186212, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yes, I was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were the criteria that you looked at?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way the proposal would come in, there was a business proposal, of course, and technical proposal. Then that technical proposal was broken up into each different discipline. I participated in the review of those dealing with structural loads, of course with a lot of other NASA scientists and so forth doing the same thing. And so that's where I played a little part in the review of the proposals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were reviewing them, do you remember how many companies had turned in proposals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Boy, I'm trying to remember. It was about four, I think, but I really honestly don't remember. I think Lockheed [Aircraft Corporation in conjunction with McDonnell Aircraft Corporation, Hughes Aircraft Company, and Chance-Vought Corporation] turned in and, of course, North American [Aviation, Inc.], and I don't remember what the other two were now. [Three others—Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corporation in conjunction with Space Technology Laboratories, Inc., General Electric Company, and Douglas Aircraft Company; The Martin Company; and General Dynamics/Astronautics in conjunction with the Avco Corporation.]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure that's in the records."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:319", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 13.303443968735689, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The way the proposal would come in, there was a business proposal, of course, and technical proposal. Then that technical proposal was broken up into each different discipline. I participated in the review of those dealing with structural loads, of course with a lot of other NASA scientists and so forth doing the same thing. And so that's where I played a little part in the review of the proposals."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were reviewing them, do you remember how many companies had turned in proposals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Boy, I'm trying to remember. It was about four, I think, but I really honestly don't remember. I think Lockheed [Aircraft Corporation in conjunction with McDonnell Aircraft Corporation, Hughes Aircraft Company, and Chance-Vought Corporation] turned in and, of course, North American [Aviation, Inc.], and I don't remember what the other two were now. [Three others—Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corporation in conjunction with Space Technology Laboratories, Inc., General Electric Company, and Douglas Aircraft Company; The Martin Company; and General Dynamics/Astronautics in conjunction with the Avco Corporation.]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure that's in the records."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sure it is, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember anything that stuck out about the reports or your recommendations to it?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:323", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 13.954869097204554, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sure it is, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember anything that stuck out about the reports or your recommendations to it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It seemed to be almost a universal adjudication that North American, who won, put out the worst proposal of all, and we could not understand why they were chosen. But, of course, it was for political reasons. There was a perceived need to put that money in that contract in California, I would presume. I think North American itself—I'd spoken to North American people, and they were amazed that they had won. [Laughter] That's the one significant thing I do remember about it. The only other one I remember much about or any at all about was the Lockheed one, which I thought was probably pretty good. But they [North American] did actually make it work, so it turned out.\\n\\n The one feeling I had about that was that I felt that they were extremely wasteful in expenditure of money, and I think that we spent probably—in my own view, maybe ten times as much money to do what we did as was necessary, and that was one of the reasons I left NASA. I did not want to be part of that anymore. That's rather painful, but I have to say that.\\n\\n Boilerplate Little Joe 2, I think Little Joe 2, one of those, they charged 14 million dollars for the thing and they could have got it in a shipyard for about 140,000 dollars."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was 100 times as much. But I'd say on an average [that] on everything, they probably came out about ten times what could have been done if you'd had a really efficient organization as we had on Mercury."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been frustrating, having seen the success of Mercury."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:325", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 14.39429899689395, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It seemed to be almost a universal adjudication that North American, who won, put out the worst proposal of all, and we could not understand why they were chosen. But, of course, it was for political reasons. There was a perceived need to put that money in that contract in California, I would presume. I think North American itself—I'd spoken to North American people, and they were amazed that they had won. [Laughter] That's the one significant thing I do remember about it. The only other one I remember much about or any at all about was the Lockheed one, which I thought was probably pretty good. But they [North American] did actually make it work, so it turned out.\\n\\n The one feeling I had about that was that I felt that they were extremely wasteful in expenditure of money, and I think that we spent probably—in my own view, maybe ten times as much money to do what we did as was necessary, and that was one of the reasons I left NASA. I did not want to be part of that anymore. That's rather painful, but I have to say that.\\n\\n Boilerplate Little Joe 2, I think Little Joe 2, one of those, they charged 14 million dollars for the thing and they could have got it in a shipyard for about 140,000 dollars."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was 100 times as much. But I'd say on an average [that] on everything, they probably came out about ten times what could have been done if you'd had a really efficient organization as we had on Mercury."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been frustrating, having seen the success of Mercury."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it really was very frustrating, but the only thing that made it, in retrospect years later, seem not so bad was that they spent four times as much bombing the hell out of Vietnam, and this was an infinitely better way to spend the money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's true. That's really true. It's much better to spend it on such a good goal, to get to the moon."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:327", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 14.882554440993276, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was 100 times as much. But I'd say on an average [that] on everything, they probably came out about ten times what could have been done if you'd had a really efficient organization as we had on Mercury."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been frustrating, having seen the success of Mercury."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it really was very frustrating, but the only thing that made it, in retrospect years later, seem not so bad was that they spent four times as much bombing the hell out of Vietnam, and this was an infinitely better way to spend the money."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's true. That's really true. It's much better to spend it on such a good goal, to get to the moon."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. But also now it's part of history and that's what I noticed about it. Of course, I was very young then. I was about half the age I am now. I must admit I have mellowed a bit since then and don't feel so strongly about that, but just for the record, that's the way I felt at that time. I don't know if many others did. Maybe it's my Scottish background, I'm not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Maybe so. Were there other reasons that you did decide to move on from NASA?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:335", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.423189210475957, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't know him, I don't think. But Owen, he and I were in a car pool, I remember, when he first started to work at AVRO. He and I rode together in a little Morris Minor, if you can imagine, smaller than a Volkswagen, English car."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And there were four of us in it. So I've known Owen for a long time. He always loves to kid me. He used to say of me, \"I'm as strong as an ox and every bit as clever.\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Laughter] Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we had a lot of fun. He actually looked after the design of the Gemini—not the Gemini, the lunar excursion module. He pretty well was in charge of the design of the lunar excursion module, [and] he did an excellent job on that, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We'll be sure to ask him about that when we do get a chance to sit down with him."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:337", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.470210233862174, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And there were four of us in it. So I've known Owen for a long time. He always loves to kid me. He used to say of me, \"I'm as strong as an ox and every bit as clever.\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Laughter] Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we had a lot of fun. He actually looked after the design of the Gemini—not the Gemini, the lunar excursion module. He pretty well was in charge of the design of the lunar excursion module, [and] he did an excellent job on that, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We'll be sure to ask him about that when we do get a chance to sit down with him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You tell him he's no longer as strong as an ox, but still just as clever. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. [Laughter] We'll be glad to do that. We'll be glad to.\\n\\n Did you ever work down at the Manned Spacecraft Center or did you leave NASA as they were—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:339", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.522455815402415, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we had a lot of fun. He actually looked after the design of the Gemini—not the Gemini, the lunar excursion module. He pretty well was in charge of the design of the lunar excursion module, [and] he did an excellent job on that, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We'll be sure to ask him about that when we do get a chance to sit down with him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You tell him he's no longer as strong as an ox, but still just as clever. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. [Laughter] We'll be glad to do that. We'll be glad to.\\n\\n Did you ever work down at the Manned Spacecraft Center or did you leave NASA as they were—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. No, when I returned from Caltech, I went to Houston, so I worked there for the next two and a half years or so. That's where we did the Apollo adapter and a few of the other things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was it like to come down to Houston? Here you'd come from Canada, then to Virginia, now all the way down south to Houston."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:347", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 14.513726284716375, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. And at that time the oil refineries, in the wintertime, used to just pump pollution into the atmosphere until it wouldn't hold any more, I think. I remember one day in the middle of winter, going out. We lived in—where did we live at that time? We lived just north of the old airport. That was\\n\\n the\\n\\n airport at that time. The houses had little white pillars out in front and all that sort of thing. The next day after this tremendous, terrible bout of smog or whatever it was, in which my wife collapsed and fell face forward into a bowl of cereal on the table—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, my!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "—I noticed that all the white paint had turned gray. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it was really bad. But the summers were very nice. The vertical convection carried all that away and we were hot, but it was very nice. The most beautiful clouds I've ever seen were in Houston. So we were adapting to it, finally, but California beckoned. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "California still has some nice weather."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:349", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 15.015251427462639, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "—I noticed that all the white paint had turned gray. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it was really bad. But the summers were very nice. The vertical convection carried all that away and we were hot, but it was very nice. The most beautiful clouds I've ever seen were in Houston. So we were adapting to it, finally, but California beckoned. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "California still has some nice weather."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had somebody apply to work in Houston from California. We didn't hire him, and the reason for that was, [he] said, as a reason for wanting to work there he was trying to escape from his wife. [Laughter] So when [we] move[d] to California with the high divorce rate, I thought, well, I'd better start treating Norma a lot better. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure she would appreciate the thought."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:353", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.833643737608195, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had somebody apply to work in Houston from California. We didn't hire him, and the reason for that was, [he] said, as a reason for wanting to work there he was trying to escape from his wife. [Laughter] So when [we] move[d] to California with the high divorce rate, I thought, well, I'd better start treating Norma a lot better. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure she would appreciate the thought."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She had visited Los Angeles in 1948 when she was just a young girl, on a tour around the country, and she said she hoped she never lived there. It was really smoggy in those days. They used to burn garbage in incinerators, and there's an inversion layer that traps all that stuff about a couple of thousand feet below that altitude. And if you climb to the tops of these mountains around here, you can see where the layer begins. Of course, inversion layer is caused by the Earth not being heated enough to [produce] vertical convection to carry that stuff away, so the more socked in it gets down there, the sun reaches the ground less and less and it really is stable. So it used to be really terrible. They've cleaned it up enormously since then."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And out here, of course, we're outside of that, a valley ringed by mountains. So it's not bad. I got a lot into meteorology, and I hope to give a course on meteorology for airplane designers before too long."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That should be fascinating."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:357", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.31314041680024, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And out here, of course, we're outside of that, a valley ringed by mountains. So it's not bad. I got a lot into meteorology, and I hope to give a course on meteorology for airplane designers before too long."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That should be fascinating."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Surprising. They don't know a lot about the sea they sail through, and they should."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. Absolutely."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I strayed from your question, didn't I?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No. We were talking about Houston."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:359", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 20.34793379644471, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Surprising. They don't know a lot about the sea they sail through, and they should."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. Absolutely."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I strayed from your question, didn't I?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No. We were talking about Houston."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Houston. That was before the Space Center was built. I guess I was there when they were planning it and during the planning and doing all the other work as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember whereabouts in Houston you were posted at the time?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:361", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 21.4977042182719, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I strayed from your question, didn't I?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No. We were talking about Houston."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Houston. That was before the Space Center was built. I guess I was there when they were planning it and during the planning and doing all the other work as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember whereabouts in Houston you were posted at the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was in a motel that was converted into offices. It was a brand-new motel that had never been opened, and it was on a little creek. I've forgotten the name of it. It was a brand-new system and they just left out some of the walls and made them into offices. Gilruth's office was in a great palatial plant, an office, single-story. I shouldn't have said \"palatial.\" It was very elegant, but it was not extravagant. It was within walking distance of where our motel was, where we had our offices.\\n\\n I remember I wanted to walk up and talk to him one day, and while I was walking, it started pouring rain. I was wearing one of these new wash-and-wear suits in those days, and I was soaked right through the skin when I walked into his office. [I] said, \"I'm afraid I've been taking some liberties,\" and he looked shocked when I said that. \"With the wash-and-wear concept.\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Laughter] Oh, my."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:363", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 23.88633802030211, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Houston. That was before the Space Center was built. I guess I was there when they were planning it and during the planning and doing all the other work as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember whereabouts in Houston you were posted at the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was in a motel that was converted into offices. It was a brand-new motel that had never been opened, and it was on a little creek. I've forgotten the name of it. It was a brand-new system and they just left out some of the walls and made them into offices. Gilruth's office was in a great palatial plant, an office, single-story. I shouldn't have said \"palatial.\" It was very elegant, but it was not extravagant. It was within walking distance of where our motel was, where we had our offices.\\n\\n I remember I wanted to walk up and talk to him one day, and while I was walking, it started pouring rain. I was wearing one of these new wash-and-wear suits in those days, and I was soaked right through the skin when I walked into his office. [I] said, \"I'm afraid I've been taking some liberties,\" and he looked shocked when I said that. \"With the wash-and-wear concept.\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Laughter] Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talking about Dr. Gilruth, did you work with him frequently, on a daily basis?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:367", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.73621977815075, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talking about Dr. Gilruth, did you work with him frequently, on a daily basis?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not on a daily basis. Well, a weekly basis. There was a meeting that he presided over at the Capsule Coordination Office. He was usually there. Max [Faget] was there, Bob Piland, too. Yes, I knew him very well. In fact, I'm not sure whether it was that day or another day, he was flying to Washington [DC], and I had to go to Washington. He said, \"Well, come with me,\" and he took me in his private airplane, or his NASA Gulfstream, and we flew there. We actually made it in this turbine propeller-driven airplane faster than the jet transports, because we could go right close to our destination and take off very close. He and I were the only two passengers on it that day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's nice."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was a very, very fine gentleman. I have some reports right here that he wrote when he was in NACA around 1938 on an airplane roll, what constitutes adequate roll rates in aircraft, an NACA report he'd written.\\n\\n I remember going to some of the meetings. I will tell you this because it was true. The aeromedical people were there giving a dissertation or a talk on the progress they'd made, and they had all these wonderful things they were doing and so forth. He got a little bit tired of all this. When they were telling him about putting a new sensor they had for body temperature they could put in their mouths, he said, \"In two years, all you guys have done is taken the thermocouple and taken it out of their asses and stuck it in their mouths.\" [Laughter] I don't know if I should be letting all this sort of stuff out, but these are things that really happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It adds some of the human interest to the story."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:369", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 21.929133086834167, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not on a daily basis. Well, a weekly basis. There was a meeting that he presided over at the Capsule Coordination Office. He was usually there. Max [Faget] was there, Bob Piland, too. Yes, I knew him very well. In fact, I'm not sure whether it was that day or another day, he was flying to Washington [DC], and I had to go to Washington. He said, \"Well, come with me,\" and he took me in his private airplane, or his NASA Gulfstream, and we flew there. We actually made it in this turbine propeller-driven airplane faster than the jet transports, because we could go right close to our destination and take off very close. He and I were the only two passengers on it that day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's nice."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was a very, very fine gentleman. I have some reports right here that he wrote when he was in NACA around 1938 on an airplane roll, what constitutes adequate roll rates in aircraft, an NACA report he'd written.\\n\\n I remember going to some of the meetings. I will tell you this because it was true. The aeromedical people were there giving a dissertation or a talk on the progress they'd made, and they had all these wonderful things they were doing and so forth. He got a little bit tired of all this. When they were telling him about putting a new sensor they had for body temperature they could put in their mouths, he said, \"In two years, all you guys have done is taken the thermocouple and taken it out of their asses and stuck it in their mouths.\" [Laughter] I don't know if I should be letting all this sort of stuff out, but these are things that really happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It adds some of the human interest to the story."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course, the aeromedical people weren't enthusiastic about that response. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Laughter] Oh, my. He seems like he had a good sense of humor."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:371", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 23.254592318704628, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was a very, very fine gentleman. I have some reports right here that he wrote when he was in NACA around 1938 on an airplane roll, what constitutes adequate roll rates in aircraft, an NACA report he'd written.\\n\\n I remember going to some of the meetings. I will tell you this because it was true. The aeromedical people were there giving a dissertation or a talk on the progress they'd made, and they had all these wonderful things they were doing and so forth. He got a little bit tired of all this. When they were telling him about putting a new sensor they had for body temperature they could put in their mouths, he said, \"In two years, all you guys have done is taken the thermocouple and taken it out of their asses and stuck it in their mouths.\" [Laughter] I don't know if I should be letting all this sort of stuff out, but these are things that really happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It adds some of the human interest to the story."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Of course, the aeromedical people weren't enthusiastic about that response. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Laughter] Oh, my. He seems like he had a good sense of humor."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. And he was very responsible, too. He listened to everybody. Bob Gilruth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I've heard a lot of good things about him. It's good to hear."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:377", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 26.686683564752578, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As a matter of fact, if you go over to the Space Museum over in New Mexico—what's the name of the place, where they did some of the launch testing, I think, there?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "White Sands?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just right next door to White [Sands]—Alamagordo. They've got some nice write-ups on Gilruth and Max Faget and a few of the others in there, as well as all the other rocket scientists that ever tested or had their things tested out there. It's a worthwhile place to go some day. You get some visual views as to what was going on. They have a Little Joe 2 rocket mounted outside of the building."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "On a stand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's where they were testing those, from that region. That's good."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:379", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 29.651870627502863, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just right next door to White [Sands]—Alamagordo. They've got some nice write-ups on Gilruth and Max Faget and a few of the others in there, as well as all the other rocket scientists that ever tested or had their things tested out there. It's a worthwhile place to go some day. You get some visual views as to what was going on. They have a Little Joe 2 rocket mounted outside of the building."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "On a stand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's where they were testing those, from that region. That's good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had to do the loads on those things, too, of course. And kind of interesting, we were firing—I can't remember whether it was the one for Mercury or the one for Apollo, but we were worried about flutter of the fins and NASA engineers had done some flutter analyses and said, \"Nah, they're fine.\" And the next time [we] fired one of these things—it had four rockets and they were supposed to be fired one after the other, but somehow or other, I don't know how this could have happened, but apparently two of the rockets ignited the other two, and so the whole thing went off together at one time. The thing went to very, very high dynamic pressures. I mean, like four times the dynamic pressure they were supposed to have had. [They] said it wouldn't flutter up to that speed [but] there was no need to test it. [Laughter] We did have fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. Talking about fun and interesting events, after you left, we did finally get to the moon and landed on the moon. Do you remember watching Apollo 11 or where you were at the time?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:381", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 28.50207847500318, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "On a stand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's where they were testing those, from that region. That's good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had to do the loads on those things, too, of course. And kind of interesting, we were firing—I can't remember whether it was the one for Mercury or the one for Apollo, but we were worried about flutter of the fins and NASA engineers had done some flutter analyses and said, \"Nah, they're fine.\" And the next time [we] fired one of these things—it had four rockets and they were supposed to be fired one after the other, but somehow or other, I don't know how this could have happened, but apparently two of the rockets ignited the other two, and so the whole thing went off together at one time. The thing went to very, very high dynamic pressures. I mean, like four times the dynamic pressure they were supposed to have had. [They] said it wouldn't flutter up to that speed [but] there was no need to test it. [Laughter] We did have fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. Talking about fun and interesting events, after you left, we did finally get to the moon and landed on the moon. Do you remember watching Apollo 11 or where you were at the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I don't remember exactly where I was, but I remember I took several days off work to watch it, because it was probably the most significant event in human history, I think, in the technical human history, anyway. It was very stirring, as well as exciting and scary and everything else. I'd been out of there for several years by the time that took place. I left at the end of '64, and I think that was, what, about '68?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "'69. Must have been rewarding to see that something you had put so many year into—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:383", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 31.668976083336865, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had to do the loads on those things, too, of course. And kind of interesting, we were firing—I can't remember whether it was the one for Mercury or the one for Apollo, but we were worried about flutter of the fins and NASA engineers had done some flutter analyses and said, \"Nah, they're fine.\" And the next time [we] fired one of these things—it had four rockets and they were supposed to be fired one after the other, but somehow or other, I don't know how this could have happened, but apparently two of the rockets ignited the other two, and so the whole thing went off together at one time. The thing went to very, very high dynamic pressures. I mean, like four times the dynamic pressure they were supposed to have had. [They] said it wouldn't flutter up to that speed [but] there was no need to test it. [Laughter] We did have fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. Talking about fun and interesting events, after you left, we did finally get to the moon and landed on the moon. Do you remember watching Apollo 11 or where you were at the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I don't remember exactly where I was, but I remember I took several days off work to watch it, because it was probably the most significant event in human history, I think, in the technical human history, anyway. It was very stirring, as well as exciting and scary and everything else. I'd been out of there for several years by the time that took place. I left at the end of '64, and I think that was, what, about '68?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "'69. Must have been rewarding to see that something you had put so many year into—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. It was very, very stirring and very worthwhile, and I did agree with the speech he made. It was a giant step for mankind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. You moved on from NASA to work with Lockheed. What did you work on there? What were your roles and responsibilities as you first came in?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:385", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 29.63219564815207, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I don't remember exactly where I was, but I remember I took several days off work to watch it, because it was probably the most significant event in human history, I think, in the technical human history, anyway. It was very stirring, as well as exciting and scary and everything else. I'd been out of there for several years by the time that took place. I left at the end of '64, and I think that was, what, about '68?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "'69. Must have been rewarding to see that something you had put so many year into—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. It was very, very stirring and very worthwhile, and I did agree with the speech he made. It was a giant step for mankind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. You moved on from NASA to work with Lockheed. What did you work on there? What were your roles and responsibilities as you first came in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I started with Fred Hoblitt's group in structural dynamics. That's where I…didn't go into a supervisory position. Lockheed was one of the few companies that had specialists, and I was a senior design specialist. They promoted them, they said, which they did. I was more interested in doing the technical work rather than getting into the political aspects of things.\\n\\n So I worked on statistical turbulence response of transport airplanes with Fred Hoblitt for about two years. Most of that was on the SST proposal, and that was canceled on New Year's Eve 1966. I remember that very well. I was sitting in front of the TV and had a drink in my hand, of course, and they announced this over the television set. My wife came over and filled my glass up with booze. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been frustrating to hear it from the TV rather than from—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:387", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 30.702439609057855, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. It was very, very stirring and very worthwhile, and I did agree with the speech he made. It was a giant step for mankind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Absolutely. You moved on from NASA to work with Lockheed. What did you work on there? What were your roles and responsibilities as you first came in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I started with Fred Hoblitt's group in structural dynamics. That's where I…didn't go into a supervisory position. Lockheed was one of the few companies that had specialists, and I was a senior design specialist. They promoted them, they said, which they did. I was more interested in doing the technical work rather than getting into the political aspects of things.\\n\\n So I worked on statistical turbulence response of transport airplanes with Fred Hoblitt for about two years. Most of that was on the SST proposal, and that was canceled on New Year's Eve 1966. I remember that very well. I was sitting in front of the TV and had a drink in my hand, of course, and they announced this over the television set. My wife came over and filled my glass up with booze. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must have been frustrating to hear it from the TV rather than from—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. And when we got into work after the holidays were over, there wasn't a speck of it in view anywhere. The company had removed all drawings. Everything was gone, just like that. All the consultants—I wasn't a consultant, I was an employee, but all the consultants were relieved of duty and all that, so they just marched on, on to the L-1011. But in retrospect, I think it was a wise decision that the government made to cancel it in the long run, because neither—you asked something about that, didn't you? I think I wrote a few things down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, briefly, if you could tell us about what it was and what it involved."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:397", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 26.797133921078853, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So for a supersonic transport to make sense, it has to have very long range, and they just really don't want to have long ranges unless they go at very high speeds. Like the SR-71, for example, has flown from the [West] Coast to the [East] Coast without refueling. I think it took about two hours to make the trip. About two hours, I think. And that's quite amazing for that kind of an airplane, but it flew at very, very high altitude, 80,000 feet or more. It's a very lightly built machine, too, and practically all fuel. So for strategic reconnaissance, it's fine, but passenger transport, maybe some day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you followed at all or been aware of some of the studies, there's been talk about a transport that would go up and basically skip on the atmosphere and thus take less fuel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Well, is that proposed as a transport? That was a reentry technique that was used for the Dyna-Soar project. Yes, I've heard of that. I've never worked on it. But it's interesting. It is interesting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Seems like maybe some day someone will come up with the right idea."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that a plain supersonic transport won't happen, but a hypersonic transport might. It has to be very fast, because strange as it may seem, the faster it goes, the closer it gets to orbital speed and the less the drag and the greater the range."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. That makes sense. Makes sense. After the supersonic transport was canceled, what did you move on to then?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:405", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 26.058731780336615, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did research on high-speed helicopters out there for about seven years and tested rotors, stiff rotors, in the Ames [Research Center] wind tunnel. To verify theoretical analysis, we put together for dynamic loads [and] vibration of high-speed helicopter rotors. It was very rewarding. I remember Kurt Hohenemser, who was an acknowledged leader of U.S. helicopter [research], telling me after a lecture that I'd added materially to the understanding of that subject, which was a nice pat on the back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's very nice. That's good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had a lot of fun doing that. I had a lot of fun with everything I was able to do. That's one of the reasons I stayed at Lockheed so long is that I didn't advance in the organization, but I had a lot of freedom to move around and go into different interesting tasks, tasks that other people gave up on, said, \"Oh, give it to George.\" [Laughter] So, fine. Sometimes I could and sometimes I couldn't [solve them]. That would be my recommendation to any young people: Do not look for easy work to do. Look for the toughest jobs you can get. If you fail to do it, okay, it was a tough job. But if you succeed, then you've done something. You choose easy jobs and you win, so what? And if you don't do it, you're gone. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Laughter] That's right. It's always good to have a challenge."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely. Yes, yes, indeed. From there, where did I go? Rotary wing. We did some interesting work in rotary wing. I won't go into that, I guess.\\n\\n Are we just about out of time?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "If there's more that you'd like to share with us, we—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:415", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.553340074068332, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's happened several times, people have used the work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That must be very rewarding to be able to see that return."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it's full circle, and that's where we are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. So you're continuing to do some of that now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two years ago I was working in the little wind tunnel where these were done [pointing to pictures on wall]. These are our little wind tunnel—Bob Burrin. I would go in. Once in a while I'd get paid on a purchase order for 5,000 bucks or something like that, but often I'd just go in just for fun. I helped them set up the tunnel. In fact, my task at advanced research was to bring those tunnels from Georgia out here, so I did do that. I was going to do that. Bob Burrin, thank goodness, stepped in to take over doing that, and he's a superb experimentalist, and I thank goodness he did it. He put them in Rye Canyon and then had them moved up here a few years later, so now we have quite an extensive low-speed wind-tunnel capability at Lockheed-Martin. I still go out and offer my advice, which he's glad to get. [Laughter] He says he's glad to get. He's a very good guy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. That's very good."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:417", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.837044526742591, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it's full circle, and that's where we are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. So you're continuing to do some of that now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two years ago I was working in the little wind tunnel where these were done [pointing to pictures on wall]. These are our little wind tunnel—Bob Burrin. I would go in. Once in a while I'd get paid on a purchase order for 5,000 bucks or something like that, but often I'd just go in just for fun. I helped them set up the tunnel. In fact, my task at advanced research was to bring those tunnels from Georgia out here, so I did do that. I was going to do that. Bob Burrin, thank goodness, stepped in to take over doing that, and he's a superb experimentalist, and I thank goodness he did it. He put them in Rye Canyon and then had them moved up here a few years later, so now we have quite an extensive low-speed wind-tunnel capability at Lockheed-Martin. I still go out and offer my advice, which he's glad to get. [Laughter] He says he's glad to get. He's a very good guy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. That's very good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, still at it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Still at it. It sounds like you've been able to enjoy a good career and have fun doing it."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:419", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.041160585269546, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two years ago I was working in the little wind tunnel where these were done [pointing to pictures on wall]. These are our little wind tunnel—Bob Burrin. I would go in. Once in a while I'd get paid on a purchase order for 5,000 bucks or something like that, but often I'd just go in just for fun. I helped them set up the tunnel. In fact, my task at advanced research was to bring those tunnels from Georgia out here, so I did do that. I was going to do that. Bob Burrin, thank goodness, stepped in to take over doing that, and he's a superb experimentalist, and I thank goodness he did it. He put them in Rye Canyon and then had them moved up here a few years later, so now we have quite an extensive low-speed wind-tunnel capability at Lockheed-Martin. I still go out and offer my advice, which he's glad to get. [Laughter] He says he's glad to get. He's a very good guy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. That's very good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, still at it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Still at it. It sounds like you've been able to enjoy a good career and have fun doing it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's kind of interesting, I've gone really through the aerodynamics on this Aerocraft Project that was just announced in\\n\\n Aviation Week\\n\\n a week or so ago, and it was sort of not classified, but it was proprietary. I did a lot of the aerodynamic design at the beginning [of the project], so that was fun, but now I've turned around and am looking at the design of pressure-stabilized structures. That is, blimps are pressure-stabilized structures. That type of a structure, anyway. And that's been very interesting, my latest work in the company."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's interesting to have kind of come—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:421", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.379067316966163, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, still at it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Still at it. It sounds like you've been able to enjoy a good career and have fun doing it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's kind of interesting, I've gone really through the aerodynamics on this Aerocraft Project that was just announced in\\n\\n Aviation Week\\n\\n a week or so ago, and it was sort of not classified, but it was proprietary. I did a lot of the aerodynamic design at the beginning [of the project], so that was fun, but now I've turned around and am looking at the design of pressure-stabilized structures. That is, blimps are pressure-stabilized structures. That type of a structure, anyway. And that's been very interesting, my latest work in the company."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's interesting to have kind of come—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Full circle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "—full circle, all the way to—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:423", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 14.865630352184626, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's kind of interesting, I've gone really through the aerodynamics on this Aerocraft Project that was just announced in\\n\\n Aviation Week\\n\\n a week or so ago, and it was sort of not classified, but it was proprietary. I did a lot of the aerodynamic design at the beginning [of the project], so that was fun, but now I've turned around and am looking at the design of pressure-stabilized structures. That is, blimps are pressure-stabilized structures. That type of a structure, anyway. And that's been very interesting, my latest work in the company."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's interesting to have kind of come—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Full circle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "—full circle, all the way to—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Back to structures again, structural design, aerodynamic design and structural design. Structural analysis, mostly, but you get into the design, too, because something won't work and then you have to suggest what may work. And it's fun working with the young people today.\\n\\n It's a vastly different culture than it was long ago. I remember going into AVRO in the design office, and what you'd see is rear ends and elbows over drawing boards, a sea of them. Now you go in and you see people sitting in front of terminals, no paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You've certainly seen a change in tools that you've used."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:425", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 13.184033724649584, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Full circle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "—full circle, all the way to—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Back to structures again, structural design, aerodynamic design and structural design. Structural analysis, mostly, but you get into the design, too, because something won't work and then you have to suggest what may work. And it's fun working with the young people today.\\n\\n It's a vastly different culture than it was long ago. I remember going into AVRO in the design office, and what you'd see is rear ends and elbows over drawing boards, a sea of them. Now you go in and you see people sitting in front of terminals, no paper."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You've certainly seen a change in tools that you've used."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Started, there were no computers at all in the aircraft business. We actually literally did things by hand or with mechanical calculators. I remember when the Frieden [calculator] that took square roots came along. That was a huge advance, because finding square roots on a mechanical calculator without that is a real pain in the neck. And now we've seen it go all the way to supercomputers of today and solving the Navier-Stokes equations on a laptop.\\n\\n I have some young friends who are consultants that work with us. Harold Youngren is one. He's a superb practical but theoretical aerodynamicist, and I enjoy working with him. And Ken Grosenick is the one I work with on structures. He just lives a mile from here. He's a NASTRAN expert. So there's a lot of very interesting things still going on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure you'll manage to stay involved with them, still."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:429", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 15.04201694401183, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Started, there were no computers at all in the aircraft business. We actually literally did things by hand or with mechanical calculators. I remember when the Frieden [calculator] that took square roots came along. That was a huge advance, because finding square roots on a mechanical calculator without that is a real pain in the neck. And now we've seen it go all the way to supercomputers of today and solving the Navier-Stokes equations on a laptop.\\n\\n I have some young friends who are consultants that work with us. Harold Youngren is one. He's a superb practical but theoretical aerodynamicist, and I enjoy working with him. And Ken Grosenick is the one I work with on structures. He just lives a mile from here. He's a NASTRAN expert. So there's a lot of very interesting things still going on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure you'll manage to stay involved with them, still."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I hope so. I really do want to get back to teaching a lot. These last two years has been a lot of engineering work, and that's fine. I think if anyone is going to teach engineering, they should be doing engineering, because it's changing so rapidly and dramatically. But it has robbed me of the chance. Some of my courses are over there. The next one I want to give is on aircraft aerodynamic principles. The company out there wants how-to-do courses, but then [the management] said the students aren't interested in all the theory and everything. Every time I give a class, at the end I say, \"Would you be interested in the theory and principles?\" I get a unanimous \"yes\" answer from the students."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have to have them fill out some surveys saying, \"We want more.\""}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I think they're going to let me give the course on principles whenever I get it ready."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That should be interesting.\n\nLooking back, you mentioned earlier that one of your greatest accomplishments or times was Mercury and seeing that be structurally sound and secure. What were some of your greatest challenges?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:433", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 13.879033264212136, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I think they're going to let me give the course on principles whenever I get it ready."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That should be interesting.\n\nLooking back, you mentioned earlier that one of your greatest accomplishments or times was Mercury and seeing that be structurally sound and secure. What were some of your greatest challenges?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did write something down on that. I guess the biggest challenge would be to keep the weight down. It's easy enough to make things very strong, but you might just—I remember on Project Mercury just saying, if I continue to do this, especially the radiation shingle weight increase, the Atlas could only lift 6,000 pounds, period, and put that into orbit. It couldn't put anything heavier than that into orbit, and we were right there.\\n\\n So this was the biggest challenge, was to keep the weight down of these vehicles, and that's one of the reasons, I think, why Gemini went to the parachute ejection, because you save a lot of weight. When you have that big boom out in the front, the launch causes bending moments in the capsule…and you have to have structure in there to carry those bending moments. Although the tower disappears, it's not carried into orbit, the structural weight used to support the tower is carried all the way to the moon and back, in the case of Apollo.\\n\\n So the biggest challenge, I think, on that was keeping the weight [down], especially on Project Mercury. Of course, with Apollo we designed massive boosters, but it was only a tiny fraction, a few percent was the payload that went to the moon. I don't know what percent, a percent or two, something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's pretty small when you look at the whole rocket."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A million and a half takeoff pounds' thrust and 30,000 pounds was the weight of the lunar excursion module or something like that. It's a very tiny fraction."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you ever able to see a Saturn V launch?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:439", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.573433832938461, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not a V, but the SA-6. I saw Saturn. We had to do structural flight testing on the Saturn Apollo SA-6. It's funny, the Mercury Atlas was MA and Saturn Apollo's were Saturn Apollo. They reversed the order. Yes, they were very stirring things to do.\\n\\n The first Saturns had multiple tubes for the first booster and the [Saturn] V had just a single [tube] first-stage, so we had to look at structural dynamics of all these tubes and the way they would wiggle around. It was fun. A lot of very interesting problems on those systems."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Certainly never lacked for something interesting to do, it sounds like."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I did work a little bit on the…docking simulator in the early days, and I learned a lot about how to make frictionless systems so that you could simulate the motion in space where there, of course, is no friction. A lot of that work helped later on.\\n\\n Part of that came from AVRO Arrow, too. It had a landing-gear failure. When you retracted the gear, [it] had to both retract and shorten and twist to fit within the smaller hole in the bottom of the airplane. In doing that one time it didn't shorten, so it kind of caught fire when it landed. It was still at an angle like that. So we had a big job of trying to figure out why that happened. It turned out in the end that the friction coefficient can be—there's a rule that it can't be greater than one, but with certain geometries it can go very much higher than that. That sort of understanding helped the design of some of the early docking simulators when I was working on [them]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's interesting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So what you learn in one project carries over to another again and again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That seems to be a very important lesson that can carry on."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:441", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.637148703264955, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I did work a little bit on the…docking simulator in the early days, and I learned a lot about how to make frictionless systems so that you could simulate the motion in space where there, of course, is no friction. A lot of that work helped later on.\\n\\n Part of that came from AVRO Arrow, too. It had a landing-gear failure. When you retracted the gear, [it] had to both retract and shorten and twist to fit within the smaller hole in the bottom of the airplane. In doing that one time it didn't shorten, so it kind of caught fire when it landed. It was still at an angle like that. So we had a big job of trying to figure out why that happened. It turned out in the end that the friction coefficient can be—there's a rule that it can't be greater than one, but with certain geometries it can go very much higher than that. That sort of understanding helped the design of some of the early docking simulators when I was working on [them]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's interesting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So what you learn in one project carries over to another again and again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That seems to be a very important lesson that can carry on."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's what I find today. It's almost embarrassing. They come up with some horrible problems and I can say, \"Well, this is what we did before, that worked.\" And it happens again and again and again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Looking back, was there a particular moment that was most memorable and most rewarding to you?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:445", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.67549222625303, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's what I find today. It's almost embarrassing. They come up with some horrible problems and I can say, \"Well, this is what we did before, that worked.\" And it happens again and again and again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Looking back, was there a particular moment that was most memorable and most rewarding to you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At AVRO, the most rewarding and most memorable moment was watching the C-105 take off for the first time, and I was responsible for its structural integrity. In fact, the week before, I had found that when they lowered the nose landing gear, that the door caused a pressure head to go into the air-conditioning system, that would have blown the whole air-conditioning system up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh dear."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then we had that beefed up. That was actually a couple of weeks, a month before, I guess, and they beefed it all up so it was okay. But realizing how many things did I forget, and watching it take off and climb, you've heard the expression \"hair stands up on the back of the neck.\" Quite literally, mine did. I could feel the back of my hair sticking straight up as I watched that first flight. So that was probably the most exciting and rewarding thing at AVRO.\\n\\n Of course, watching the space shots, especially watching them on telemetry where you could see technically what was going on, was very, very interesting, seeing all the hard work come to pay off. It was a lot of fun.\\n\\n I guess you asked about the controversy [between] parachute ejection and escape towers. I think I'd have to say in the end to that, that probably the escape tower provided greater safety. I will say that for it. But that's what you paid the heavier weight for. It was probably safer under more general conditions.\\n\\n You did mention something about the fire, and I've forgotten which spacecraft it was now, that the three astronauts were killed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, the Apollo 1 fire."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:447", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 10.750546918058923, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At AVRO, the most rewarding and most memorable moment was watching the C-105 take off for the first time, and I was responsible for its structural integrity. In fact, the week before, I had found that when they lowered the nose landing gear, that the door caused a pressure head to go into the air-conditioning system, that would have blown the whole air-conditioning system up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh dear."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then we had that beefed up. That was actually a couple of weeks, a month before, I guess, and they beefed it all up so it was okay. But realizing how many things did I forget, and watching it take off and climb, you've heard the expression \"hair stands up on the back of the neck.\" Quite literally, mine did. I could feel the back of my hair sticking straight up as I watched that first flight. So that was probably the most exciting and rewarding thing at AVRO.\\n\\n Of course, watching the space shots, especially watching them on telemetry where you could see technically what was going on, was very, very interesting, seeing all the hard work come to pay off. It was a lot of fun.\\n\\n I guess you asked about the controversy [between] parachute ejection and escape towers. I think I'd have to say in the end to that, that probably the escape tower provided greater safety. I will say that for it. But that's what you paid the heavier weight for. It was probably safer under more general conditions.\\n\\n You did mention something about the fire, and I've forgotten which spacecraft it was now, that the three astronauts were killed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, the Apollo 1 fire."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I knew one of the pilots. What was his name?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There was Gus [Virgil I.] Grissom—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:451", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.222897429702374, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I knew one of the pilots. What was his name?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There was Gus [Virgil I.] Grissom—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Grissom. He's the one. I knew him. But I hadn't realized myself that they used 100 percent oxygen and then pressurized it on the pad to 5 psi above atmospheric so they wouldn't have to repressurize it after that. And I thought to myself, every high school student knows that you can burn anything in that kind of an atmosphere. With any heat at all, anything will burn. And they had Teflon insulation in there as well, which is poisonous, the gases from that are poisonous. How could they be so ridiculous? So I was just appalled that that accident ever happened. But I noted later that they used a two-gas mixture after that. Was it helium and oxygen? I think it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think it may have been. Very unfortunate occurrence."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. Gus nearly bought it on Project Mercury, too. You know that story, I guess, where his neck dam wasn't sealed. His suit was filling with water, and the helicopter came over and he was waving frantically for it to come down. As his dam was filling, he was going to go down. So they waved back. Luckily the guys got in the water and got to him before he did go down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Must have been a frightening experience for him."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:453", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.025441588558193, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Grissom. He's the one. I knew him. But I hadn't realized myself that they used 100 percent oxygen and then pressurized it on the pad to 5 psi above atmospheric so they wouldn't have to repressurize it after that. And I thought to myself, every high school student knows that you can burn anything in that kind of an atmosphere. With any heat at all, anything will burn. And they had Teflon insulation in there as well, which is poisonous, the gases from that are poisonous. How could they be so ridiculous? So I was just appalled that that accident ever happened. But I noted later that they used a two-gas mixture after that. Was it helium and oxygen? I think it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think it may have been. Very unfortunate occurrence."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. Gus nearly bought it on Project Mercury, too. You know that story, I guess, where his neck dam wasn't sealed. His suit was filling with water, and the helicopter came over and he was waving frantically for it to come down. As his dam was filling, he was going to go down. So they waved back. Luckily the guys got in the water and got to him before he did go down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Must have been a frightening experience for him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I can imagine."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:455", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.917157320620214, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. Gus nearly bought it on Project Mercury, too. You know that story, I guess, where his neck dam wasn't sealed. His suit was filling with water, and the helicopter came over and he was waving frantically for it to come down. As his dam was filling, he was going to go down. So they waved back. Luckily the guys got in the water and got to him before he did go down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Must have been a frightening experience for him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I can imagine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm going to let them change the tape here real quick. [Brief interruption]\\n\\n Okay, we're back on."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:457", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.907952578466904, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I can imagine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm going to let them change the tape here real quick. [Brief interruption]\\n\\n Okay, we're back on."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We're in challenges."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Challenges. Were there any challenges?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:461", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 12.23204022032951, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We're in challenges."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Challenges. Were there any challenges?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just made a summary of some of these. I guess I mentioned the ultra-thin highly loaded control surface of the AVRO Arrow was one of the early big challenges. I guess I mentioned a lot of these things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I did mention the Apollo heat-shield design was a huge challenge, not for me, but for the others. That, I think, pretty well covered the Lockheed and NASA and AVRO challenges."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Were there other challenges as you came to Lockheed?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:473", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 15.49003599709, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a lot of fun. Did that in Rye Canyon in a high-altitude chamber that simulated the outside environment, and then we had a volume inside a tank and we put some [seats and] anthropomorphic dummies and everything in there to see that nobody followed the air [out] through the hole, and things like that. Then we tested an awful lot of [vent] designs there. It was fun. As soon as we opened a huge valve that simulated the hole, then air would rush out and the cabin would fill with fog instantly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With fog?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, because the temperature drops down and so it drops below the dew point, and the water vapor condenses instantly everywhere to opaque fog in the cabin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, my."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And it was kind of interesting that the air underneath the cabin expanded out through the hole and its temperature would drop, but then when the air from up above would relatively slowly come down, the temperature would rise again. That was predicated analytically and we measured it with sensitive instruments and found that that's exactly what did happen. So it was technically a lot of fun. I enjoyed that exercise."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that's certainly something rather important, too."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:481", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.602706900000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not much. I flew some Ultralights about three years ago, but I decided they were too darn dangerous. Very difficult to fly and very dangerous and very impractical, since they fly at 35 miles an hour.\\n\\n If the wind comes up, you can't get home, for one thing. And if you fly when there's any thermals or anything, they stall at such a low speed that you could be upset, and if you're close to the ground when that happens, forget it. So I thought, you know—it was shortly after my wife passed away and I didn't care whether I lived or died very much anyway, so I did that for a while, and thought, hmm, you know, let's not do this anymore."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It must have been neat to get to fly the helicopter."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, that was fun, yes. Had to slow it down, so I slowed down and watched the air speed go down, down, down to zero. If you're used to flying a fixed-wing airplane, it's a strange feeling. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, I bet."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a helicopter that Lockheed had developed and had actually sold some to Belgium, but they didn't ever—they could have sold them, but they didn't.\\n\\n I guess one of the most thrilling rewards lately is just receiving—the last time I gave my aircraft drag estimation course, which was the third time I'd given it, the students all clapped, gave me an ovation at the end…and half a dozen of them came up and shook my hand and thanked me. That was a big thrill."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's really great to get that recognition from them. That's pretty special."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:483", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.336341000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, that was fun, yes. Had to slow it down, so I slowed down and watched the air speed go down, down, down to zero. If you're used to flying a fixed-wing airplane, it's a strange feeling. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, I bet."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a helicopter that Lockheed had developed and had actually sold some to Belgium, but they didn't ever—they could have sold them, but they didn't.\\n\\n I guess one of the most thrilling rewards lately is just receiving—the last time I gave my aircraft drag estimation course, which was the third time I'd given it, the students all clapped, gave me an ovation at the end…and half a dozen of them came up and shook my hand and thanked me. That was a big thrill."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's really great to get that recognition from them. That's pretty special."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To know that you have touched a newcoming generation of engineers."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:485", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.15149, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a helicopter that Lockheed had developed and had actually sold some to Belgium, but they didn't ever—they could have sold them, but they didn't.\\n\\n I guess one of the most thrilling rewards lately is just receiving—the last time I gave my aircraft drag estimation course, which was the third time I'd given it, the students all clapped, gave me an ovation at the end…and half a dozen of them came up and shook my hand and thanked me. That was a big thrill."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's really great to get that recognition from them. That's pretty special."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To know that you have touched a newcoming generation of engineers."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There's a big reward in doing that, too, because you begin to understand things that you only vaguely had an idea about before. So I was really surprised that more retired men have not done that. I thought everybody would be doing it, but I'm the only one I know who has gone back to teach, and I don't understand that. Golf can't mean that much, surely, can it? [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[Laughter] Surely not.\\n\\n You've had extensive experience with the space program and aerospace and all in general. What are your thoughts on the future? How do you see things changing or moving on?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:499", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think saddling someone with a huge debt to pay back at the end is also—I don't know where our minds are. You need to spend your time studying when you're going to school. You can't spend it working all day and then go in and take courses at night or something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very difficult."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we'll probably get around to that. I mean, it's interesting today, and one of the big changes is that my mother didn't have to have a side job. My father was able to support her. I think that was the case with everyone I knew. The mother stayed home and looked after the children and all the social aspects of the family. Today when both parents have to work, I think that's not good for the society in general. They talk about equal opportunity for women, yeah, equal opportunity to die an early death is what it boils down to. That's why women outlive men, or used to outlive men…because the men were out fighting at work, you know, through work, [while at] the [same] time [then women] were out looking after the kids and so on. So I'm not sure that this \"freedom\" is a very useful thing.\\n\\n My wife actually worked to support me going through school, too, but after that she had odd jobs for many years, temporary secretaries and things like that, but over the long haul, most of the time she'd be able to spend at home looking after the social aspects of life, which are very, very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very important."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Especially in the military or the government, as you're probably well aware of, where you come from."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's right. Looking back over your career, when you first got started, you were interested in aviation from a young age, but would you ever have imagined where your life would lead you, where your career would lead you?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:501", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we'll probably get around to that. I mean, it's interesting today, and one of the big changes is that my mother didn't have to have a side job. My father was able to support her. I think that was the case with everyone I knew. The mother stayed home and looked after the children and all the social aspects of the family. Today when both parents have to work, I think that's not good for the society in general. They talk about equal opportunity for women, yeah, equal opportunity to die an early death is what it boils down to. That's why women outlive men, or used to outlive men…because the men were out fighting at work, you know, through work, [while at] the [same] time [then women] were out looking after the kids and so on. So I'm not sure that this \"freedom\" is a very useful thing.\\n\\n My wife actually worked to support me going through school, too, but after that she had odd jobs for many years, temporary secretaries and things like that, but over the long haul, most of the time she'd be able to spend at home looking after the social aspects of life, which are very, very important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very important."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Especially in the military or the government, as you're probably well aware of, where you come from."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's right. Looking back over your career, when you first got started, you were interested in aviation from a young age, but would you ever have imagined where your life would lead you, where your career would lead you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I expected to get a degree in engineering and spend the rest of my life as a pauper, doing what I wanted to do, and [to have] the idea that I could ever help build a machine to fly to the moon was totally beyond my comprehension at that time. So life has been very rewarding. I have no complaints at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. I think at this point I'll—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:505", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I expected to get a degree in engineering and spend the rest of my life as a pauper, doing what I wanted to do, and [to have] the idea that I could ever help build a machine to fly to the moon was totally beyond my comprehension at that time. So life has been very rewarding. I have no complaints at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. I think at this point I'll—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'll say one other thing, though."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And that is, to the young people who sit around today and think that everything's been done, that's not true. Knowledge is like the stars in the sky at night. It's little pin pricks. That's what we know. All the black in between is what we don't know, and it's what we don't know that will propel us into the future. That's why education and understanding physics and mathematics from first principles is so important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's a great thought. You're right, there is a lot to learn out there. There's still a lot that we can—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:507", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'll say one other thing, though."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And that is, to the young people who sit around today and think that everything's been done, that's not true. Knowledge is like the stars in the sky at night. It's little pin pricks. That's what we know. All the black in between is what we don't know, and it's what we don't know that will propel us into the future. That's why education and understanding physics and mathematics from first principles is so important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's a great thought. You're right, there is a lot to learn out there. There's still a lot that we can—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I think that there's no better time to live than today, for a young person. I wish I were young and starting out again, there's so much to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There's still plenty that you can do."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:509", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And that is, to the young people who sit around today and think that everything's been done, that's not true. Knowledge is like the stars in the sky at night. It's little pin pricks. That's what we know. All the black in between is what we don't know, and it's what we don't know that will propel us into the future. That's why education and understanding physics and mathematics from first principles is so important."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's a great thought. You're right, there is a lot to learn out there. There's still a lot that we can—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I think that there's no better time to live than today, for a young person. I wish I were young and starting out again, there's so much to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There's still plenty that you can do."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I hope so. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And be involved with.\\n\\n I think I'll ask Summer and Rebecca if they have any questions.\n\nWe certainly have enjoyed hearing all that you've been able to accomplish in, to me, a very short time, but I'm sure that your days were very long. Did you feel like, especially during those early days when you joined the NASA force, that it was just one long continuous day? Or was it one long continuous adventure you got up every morning to continue doing?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:511", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I think that there's no better time to live than today, for a young person. I wish I were young and starting out again, there's so much to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There's still plenty that you can do."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I hope so. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And be involved with.\\n\\n I think I'll ask Summer and Rebecca if they have any questions.\n\nWe certainly have enjoyed hearing all that you've been able to accomplish in, to me, a very short time, but I'm sure that your days were very long. Did you feel like, especially during those early days when you joined the NASA force, that it was just one long continuous day? Or was it one long continuous adventure you got up every morning to continue doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a long continuous adventure, and there was home life and social life that did go along, which I didn't touch on, that was also very rewarding, and making new friends and seeing how society operates under different kinds of stress. Some people divorced their wives and ran off with their secretaries, which would never have happened in a normal course of things. That was really kind of surprising to me. [Laughter] And the astronauts, they chased around and were made idols of. It was fun being with them and seeing how human beings adapt to that sort of stress, in a sense, but it can be nice stress as well as unpleasant stress. But the rewards of understanding were tremendous, and to actually see the visions and pictures from space and everything, it was just worth every bit of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You've left quite a legacy, and we thank you."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:513", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I hope so. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And be involved with.\\n\\n I think I'll ask Summer and Rebecca if they have any questions.\n\nWe certainly have enjoyed hearing all that you've been able to accomplish in, to me, a very short time, but I'm sure that your days were very long. Did you feel like, especially during those early days when you joined the NASA force, that it was just one long continuous day? Or was it one long continuous adventure you got up every morning to continue doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a long continuous adventure, and there was home life and social life that did go along, which I didn't touch on, that was also very rewarding, and making new friends and seeing how society operates under different kinds of stress. Some people divorced their wives and ran off with their secretaries, which would never have happened in a normal course of things. That was really kind of surprising to me. [Laughter] And the astronauts, they chased around and were made idols of. It was fun being with them and seeing how human beings adapt to that sort of stress, in a sense, but it can be nice stress as well as unpleasant stress. But the rewards of understanding were tremendous, and to actually see the visions and pictures from space and everything, it was just worth every bit of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You've left quite a legacy, and we thank you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's my great pleasure to be able to tell you a few of those things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything that you can think of that you wanted to share with us that we didn't cover?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:516", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a long continuous adventure, and there was home life and social life that did go along, which I didn't touch on, that was also very rewarding, and making new friends and seeing how society operates under different kinds of stress. Some people divorced their wives and ran off with their secretaries, which would never have happened in a normal course of things. That was really kind of surprising to me. [Laughter] And the astronauts, they chased around and were made idols of. It was fun being with them and seeing how human beings adapt to that sort of stress, in a sense, but it can be nice stress as well as unpleasant stress. But the rewards of understanding were tremendous, and to actually see the visions and pictures from space and everything, it was just worth every bit of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You've left quite a legacy, and we thank you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's my great pleasure to be able to tell you a few of those things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything that you can think of that you wanted to share with us that we didn't cover?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, I think you covered it fairly well. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's rewarding for us to hear."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00584:518", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's my great pleasure to be able to tell you a few of those things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything that you can think of that you wanted to share with us that we didn't cover?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually, I think you covered it fairly well. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's rewarding for us to hear."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. You've prepared me very well, and it was, I think, an excellent job. I'll be anxious to see what my brothers have said and told you about and how they contradicted me. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From what I've heard and shared with you today, I don't think I've heard any contradictions, particularly, from previously, but we'll certainly keep you posted on how things go and who else we talk to."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:1", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 10, "return_to_go": 27.83608749270204, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was one of three girls. I was the one in the middle, and I grew up in a small town called Watsonville in California. And it was a different era for girls. And we, when I heard about the Peace Corps and the adventure and what you could do, there was no doubt in my mind that that's what I was going to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when did you first hear about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I had been in a ski accident. I was very athletic. And I had been wheeled up to the University of California, Berkeley, and was right up in the front row on the floor of the stadium, Memorial Stadium. And out of the tunnel came this amazing man. And the sun was hitting his hair. It had like a reddish tone to it, and he was walking with his hand on his back. And I can close my eyes and see it clearly at this moment as he walked by me and caught my eye, his beautiful blue eyes, and walked up on that podium and gave the call to service. And when he said those words, ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. My heart was already primed to serve and I could see myself living in a tree in Africa and serving and working and teaching, and that became my dream."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So let's just be clear, this man was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "John F. Kennedy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And he was on the campaign trail?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.99708503688772, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, nothing at all. And I, um, it was my father. My family, they had established Granite Construction Company, was very male dominated company. And I had an older sister and a younger sister. Wonderful mother. My mother, very hardworking. Very supportive. You know, really hard rock upbringing. She was kind of like out of the Oklahoma movement. And so she wanted just me to be happy. And she was very worried about me going into the Peace Corps as so many mothers were at that time and are today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Indeed. It's the parental concerns."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, so you married John. Did you apply for Peace Corps together during your engagement time or how did you? How was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we applied right after we were married six weeks after he proposed and then the Peace Corps recruitment came to the campus and we filled out the forms one Saturday morning and were invited to go to Guatemala. And we looked at each other and said, that's too close to home. And so they sent us an invitation to Africa. We said, that's it. And off we went to Ethiopia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But before you got to Ethiopia, you had to do some training."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 22.21898337431969, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, so you married John. Did you apply for Peace Corps together during your engagement time or how did you? How was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we applied right after we were married six weeks after he proposed and then the Peace Corps recruitment came to the campus and we filled out the forms one Saturday morning and were invited to go to Guatemala. And we looked at each other and said, that's too close to home. And so they sent us an invitation to Africa. We said, that's it. And off we went to Ethiopia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But before you got to Ethiopia, you had to do some training."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where was the training and how was that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 16.90998152702188, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we applied right after we were married six weeks after he proposed and then the Peace Corps recruitment came to the campus and we filled out the forms one Saturday morning and were invited to go to Guatemala. And we looked at each other and said, that's too close to home. And so they sent us an invitation to Africa. We said, that's it. And off we went to Ethiopia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But before you got to Ethiopia, you had to do some training."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where was the training and how was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the training was also a big impact on my life. We were trained in Shiprock, New Mexico, on the Navajo reservation, and that was another entirely new experience that really touched my heart. Our students were, they were just the most wonderful students and to just live on the reservation where they had lived and were living, it was really eye-opening to us and we bonded there. We, you know, we learned to teach English as a second language, but that was a. And we studied the Ethiopian language and [speaks Amharic]. I mean, we really got the good, the good language training, and that was wonderful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what language is that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.566646141135422, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where was the training and how was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the training was also a big impact on my life. We were trained in Shiprock, New Mexico, on the Navajo reservation, and that was another entirely new experience that really touched my heart. Our students were, they were just the most wonderful students and to just live on the reservation where they had lived and were living, it was really eye-opening to us and we bonded there. We, you know, we learned to teach English as a second language, but that was a. And we studied the Ethiopian language and [speaks Amharic]. I mean, we really got the good, the good language training, and that was wonderful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what language is that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's Amharic. We were trained in Amharic. But then when we arrived in country, we were sent to the Illubabor where they spoke Oromo, which [speaks Oromo]. So it was, um, you know, we adapted."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so we're going forward a little bit here. But this is relevant, I think, in terms of a Peace Corps experience. You learn one language in training."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.40738460126158, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the training was also a big impact on my life. We were trained in Shiprock, New Mexico, on the Navajo reservation, and that was another entirely new experience that really touched my heart. Our students were, they were just the most wonderful students and to just live on the reservation where they had lived and were living, it was really eye-opening to us and we bonded there. We, you know, we learned to teach English as a second language, but that was a. And we studied the Ethiopian language and [speaks Amharic]. I mean, we really got the good, the good language training, and that was wonderful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what language is that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's Amharic. We were trained in Amharic. But then when we arrived in country, we were sent to the Illubabor where they spoke Oromo, which [speaks Oromo]. So it was, um, you know, we adapted."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so we're going forward a little bit here. But this is relevant, I think, in terms of a Peace Corps experience. You learn one language in training."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you got to your site, you discovered you had to learn another language."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 20.45264955695731, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's Amharic. We were trained in Amharic. But then when we arrived in country, we were sent to the Illubabor where they spoke Oromo, which [speaks Oromo]. So it was, um, you know, we adapted."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so we're going forward a little bit here. But this is relevant, I think, in terms of a Peace Corps experience. You learn one language in training."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you got to your site, you discovered you had to learn another language."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you in the course of those two years continue working in both languages?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 19.391832841063678, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you got to your site, you discovered you had to learn another language."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you in the course of those two years continue working in both languages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we continued working in both languages because we were teaching English. The Amharas were very much the teachers and the government officials under Haile Selassie in the country. So Amharic was widely spoken throughout Illubabor province, but the students and the villagers all spoke Oromo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So your entire training then was in New Mexico on the Navajo."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.435369823404088, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you in the course of those two years continue working in both languages?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we continued working in both languages because we were teaching English. The Amharas were very much the teachers and the government officials under Haile Selassie in the country. So Amharic was widely spoken throughout Illubabor province, but the students and the villagers all spoke Oromo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So your entire training then was in New Mexico on the Navajo."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was, no. First we were at the University of Utah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, OK. Yeah. All right. Is there anything? I know in your era a number of us were in training programs where deselection was a big deal."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 22.705966470448985, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we continued working in both languages because we were teaching English. The Amharas were very much the teachers and the government officials under Haile Selassie in the country. So Amharic was widely spoken throughout Illubabor province, but the students and the villagers all spoke Oromo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So your entire training then was in New Mexico on the Navajo."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was, no. First we were at the University of Utah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, OK. Yeah. All right. Is there anything? I know in your era a number of us were in training programs where deselection was a big deal."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Big deal, big deal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did it impact? What was your observation and how did it impact your group?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 21.89551830049887, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was, no. First we were at the University of Utah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, OK. Yeah. All right. Is there anything? I know in your era a number of us were in training programs where deselection was a big deal."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Big deal, big deal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did it impact? What was your observation and how did it impact your group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It impacted it really hard. We had some people that we protected, frankly. There were a couple of people that we knew to be gay, and we, as married couples, kind of kept them within our group. We, because they were, there was so much discrimination at that time. There also, I mean, there was also a hard level for women too. I mean, I remember going and sitting with the quote psychiatrists and, you know, I had excelled in everything, absolutely everything in training. But then this psychiatrist said, well. You're sitting there as a couple. They said, well, you look more like the flower of California than a Peace Corps volunteer. But since you're going with this big, strong man who is a football player, you will be just fine. That's the era. I had to bite my tongue so hard just to get through the process.\n\nMy husband spoke up. He said, she's the reason we're here and she is tough as nails. So anyway, it's just, there were a lot of things that went on in deselection that a lot of people didn't weather, and that was really unfortunate. There was one woman who was a fantastic teacher, but she was in her sixties, so they discriminated against her on age, and she would have, she was heartbroken. She should have been, and she was healthy as can be. But they, I think they deselected about 60 percent of our class."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, that was the experience in a number of training groups then."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 22.106131444998745, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Big deal, big deal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did it impact? What was your observation and how did it impact your group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It impacted it really hard. We had some people that we protected, frankly. There were a couple of people that we knew to be gay, and we, as married couples, kind of kept them within our group. We, because they were, there was so much discrimination at that time. There also, I mean, there was also a hard level for women too. I mean, I remember going and sitting with the quote psychiatrists and, you know, I had excelled in everything, absolutely everything in training. But then this psychiatrist said, well. You're sitting there as a couple. They said, well, you look more like the flower of California than a Peace Corps volunteer. But since you're going with this big, strong man who is a football player, you will be just fine. That's the era. I had to bite my tongue so hard just to get through the process.\n\nMy husband spoke up. He said, she's the reason we're here and she is tough as nails. So anyway, it's just, there were a lot of things that went on in deselection that a lot of people didn't weather, and that was really unfortunate. There was one woman who was a fantastic teacher, but she was in her sixties, so they discriminated against her on age, and she would have, she was heartbroken. She should have been, and she was healthy as can be. But they, I think they deselected about 60 percent of our class."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, that was the experience in a number of training groups then."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But just Thursday night, the survivors, we all got together here at a Peace Corps conference, and we always reminisce on how wonderful the Peace Corps experience was. Once we got to our villages, it was perfect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Indeed. We've just finished the 55th anniversary celebrations."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 10, "return_to_go": 25.06929808024536, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But just Thursday night, the survivors, we all got together here at a Peace Corps conference, and we always reminisce on how wonderful the Peace Corps experience was. Once we got to our villages, it was perfect."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Indeed. We've just finished the 55th anniversary celebrations."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All over, shall we say. The 55th anniversary continues and the celebrations will continue for a long time, for another year at least, until we get to the next year. So we did lose some important and valuable talent during that deselection process. Anything? How about, OK, if you think of anything you'd like to add about the end of training or about that whole experience?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just thought it was the most wonderful cross-cultural training possible. And there were some things that the Peace Corps really did well, like the language training and really good health care and really setting us up. In later years when I had the chance to serve in the Clinton administration and he asked me what I wanted to do. I said, you know, as a volunteer, we always all thought we could do much better than the administration was doing at the time. So let me have a chance at it. And so with a great deal of humor, I took that on. It was wonderful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's great. That's great. So then let's move from training to your first few days in the country. Did you have additional orientation there and what was your reaction when you arrived in Ethiopia? Was it what you expected to find at that time?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:45", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.20199246999264, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, to be shipped and they never came. But it was fine. It was worked out for the best. And who cares? We had our two suitcases and we just made it. We just had a ball and we laughed and laughed. We really loved it. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So who taught you how to cook and how to prepare food? What kinds of utensils?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My students. They started taking care of us. See, because, you know, that's what's so wonderful about Peace Corps. You live at the same level as the people. You speak their language. You unpack your bags and you stay and they adopt you. And our students, they taught me. They would bring us enough to get through each day. Then they would teach me how to cook. John's funny memory is coming back from being out. He had a horse where he rode all through the villages, helping with water and all. And so he came back to our hut one day and there I was in the backyard, you know, plucking a chicken, you know. I mean, this was like, this is like. He has this great picture of me plucking a chicken with this look on my face. Who would have thought?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you learn to pluck a chicken?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you just have feathers, so you just are plucking. I got the little neighbor boy to chop the neck, but I had to cook something for, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had to figure out how had to pluck and cut that chicken up."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.446658299991821, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My students. They started taking care of us. See, because, you know, that's what's so wonderful about Peace Corps. You live at the same level as the people. You speak their language. You unpack your bags and you stay and they adopt you. And our students, they taught me. They would bring us enough to get through each day. Then they would teach me how to cook. John's funny memory is coming back from being out. He had a horse where he rode all through the villages, helping with water and all. And so he came back to our hut one day and there I was in the backyard, you know, plucking a chicken, you know. I mean, this was like, this is like. He has this great picture of me plucking a chicken with this look on my face. Who would have thought?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you learn to pluck a chicken?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you just have feathers, so you just are plucking. I got the little neighbor boy to chop the neck, but I had to cook something for, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had to figure out how had to pluck and cut that chicken up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you did. Yes, you did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. That's great. So what were the staples for the villagers and what became your staples in terms of food?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.607398111102023, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you just have feathers, so you just are plucking. I got the little neighbor boy to chop the neck, but I had to cook something for, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had to figure out how had to pluck and cut that chicken up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you did. Yes, you did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. That's great. So what were the staples for the villagers and what became your staples in terms of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the staple. It's a very healthy diet that the Ethiopians, they're really smart, beautiful, healthy people. Teff is the grain that they grow. And so they have the big injera pancakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it called?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.785997901224471, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you did. Yes, you did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. That's great. So what were the staples for the villagers and what became your staples in terms of food?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the staple. It's a very healthy diet that the Ethiopians, they're really smart, beautiful, healthy people. Teff is the grain that they grow. And so they have the big injera pancakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it called?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Injera."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Injera pancake, but what is the grain?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.095553223582746, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the staple. It's a very healthy diet that the Ethiopians, they're really smart, beautiful, healthy people. Teff is the grain that they grow. And so they have the big injera pancakes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What is it called?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Injera."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Injera pancake, but what is the grain?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Teff, T-E-F-F. Very nutritious. And it can be made out of bocolo, which is corn, but that's not as nutritious as the teff. So you always wanted the teff. And you could get that. The neighboring ladies would always, because they made it so well in the little cook. We had a little wood cook house that we all shared out back where we ended up living. We were in, you know, we had like a room in the middle and then we let the students that we adopted all stay in a big room on one side of our house. And then the other side was kind of a local brothel. And so it was really. And we all shared the same cook house out back. It was fun. It was just great. We just, we, you know, they were making adaki, which was the local brew. And I was cooking dodo wat, which is the chicken with the stew. You got to know everybody."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they have any vegetables in terms of what we think of as vegetables?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.550614692869717, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Injera."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Injera pancake, but what is the grain?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Teff, T-E-F-F. Very nutritious. And it can be made out of bocolo, which is corn, but that's not as nutritious as the teff. So you always wanted the teff. And you could get that. The neighboring ladies would always, because they made it so well in the little cook. We had a little wood cook house that we all shared out back where we ended up living. We were in, you know, we had like a room in the middle and then we let the students that we adopted all stay in a big room on one side of our house. And then the other side was kind of a local brothel. And so it was really. And we all shared the same cook house out back. It was fun. It was just great. We just, we, you know, they were making adaki, which was the local brew. And I was cooking dodo wat, which is the chicken with the stew. You got to know everybody."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they have any vegetables in terms of what we think of as vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we, um. Of course, guava and sometimes some papaya. Mango. But the vegetables, that's one thing that we would always try to. We always had a vegetable garden and we always encouraged the vegetables. They had things that they were able to incorporate into their injeras. So they loved actually the cabbage or they loved the carrot, and they'd mix it in with the stew, depending seasonally when they could do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it would enhance the nutrition."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.16734965874413, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Teff, T-E-F-F. Very nutritious. And it can be made out of bocolo, which is corn, but that's not as nutritious as the teff. So you always wanted the teff. And you could get that. The neighboring ladies would always, because they made it so well in the little cook. We had a little wood cook house that we all shared out back where we ended up living. We were in, you know, we had like a room in the middle and then we let the students that we adopted all stay in a big room on one side of our house. And then the other side was kind of a local brothel. And so it was really. And we all shared the same cook house out back. It was fun. It was just great. We just, we, you know, they were making adaki, which was the local brew. And I was cooking dodo wat, which is the chicken with the stew. You got to know everybody."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they have any vegetables in terms of what we think of as vegetables?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we, um. Of course, guava and sometimes some papaya. Mango. But the vegetables, that's one thing that we would always try to. We always had a vegetable garden and we always encouraged the vegetables. They had things that they were able to incorporate into their injeras. So they loved actually the cabbage or they loved the carrot, and they'd mix it in with the stew, depending seasonally when they could do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it would enhance the nutrition."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes. And the beans, the lentils and the beans were very, very good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you maintained your own garden?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.963721843049033, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we, um. Of course, guava and sometimes some papaya. Mango. But the vegetables, that's one thing that we would always try to. We always had a vegetable garden and we always encouraged the vegetables. They had things that they were able to incorporate into their injeras. So they loved actually the cabbage or they loved the carrot, and they'd mix it in with the stew, depending seasonally when they could do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it would enhance the nutrition."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes. And the beans, the lentils and the beans were very, very good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you maintained your own garden?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Oh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where did you get the seeds?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 19.95969093672115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes. And the beans, the lentils and the beans were very, very good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you maintained your own garden?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Oh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where did you get the seeds?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we, our mothers sent them to us as a matter of fact. They did. Oh yes, they did. The mothers sent them to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So you had support from across the ocean."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:63", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 21.0663232630235, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Oh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where did you get the seeds?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we, our mothers sent them to us as a matter of fact. They did. Oh yes, they did. The mothers sent them to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So you had support from across the ocean."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did. We did. Wonderful support. I wrote a letter. I kept a very detailed journal and I wrote a letter, you know, every week to the parents. And then I made them into big book when I. But they saved everything we sent them. They were totally, totally supportive and so proud of us. Yeah, so proud."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is just great. So let's focus for a few minutes on the actual work, the teaching. How did you experience that? What was the school like? How many children in a classroom? What grade ranges were you involved with, you and John?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.667110100169403, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, when we first were there, we were middle school teachers and I taught all of the seventh and eighth graders, you know, English and then he taught them science. And it was, I will talk about it later. But when we returned to Ethiopia, the one thing all of our former students remembered was all of Mr. Garamendi's science experiments. Because they literally could relive every second of every one of his things. Yeah. And I tried to set up a library, so families sent books. But it was like in going through the old school after 50 years, it was like a mausoleum. I mean, they were just thick with dust. They treasured them so much. And so that's how I ended up building a computer lab so that it was interactive so that students could all use it.\n\nBut trying to get them the books and really teaching English as a second language so they could pass their exams and continue on. I also, I used music a lot in my teaching, and they loved that. I had taken my guitar all the way over and they could sing every verse of every song that I ever introduced to them. Whether it was Hang Down Your Head Tom Dooley, or, you know, When the Saints Go Marching In, they just loved verses and they would just sing out. And lots of times you'd have pouring rain on the tin roofs over the mud walls, and it would just be thundering. You couldn't even hear anything. And so I'd always get my guitar out and we'd all just sing and clap and dance and sing and clap and dance to get through all those times. So we had a wonderful relationship."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the students teach you any of their songs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes, and their dance. [sings in Amharic or Oromo]. Or they could do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I wish this were in video so that listeners could see you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, and they would dance about. [sings in Amharic or Oromo] I mean, they'd dance all around and we just had a ball together. We really had fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. That sounds great."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 22.96345566685489, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes, and their dance. [sings in Amharic or Oromo]. Or they could do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I wish this were in video so that listeners could see you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, and they would dance about. [sings in Amharic or Oromo] I mean, they'd dance all around and we just had a ball together. We really had fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. That sounds great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But they learned a lot. They were good students."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very serious. How many students in a classroom?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.79647913287625, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I just think that because we were not sheltered in our. We always felt safe out there. But physically from the elements were a different situation. When we would go out on our mule to, I was allowed to ride a mule. He was allowed to ride a horse. Women were not allowed to ride horses, so I have great pictures with me, my feet like dragging along the edge of the mule. But we would camp and there was a time that there was a green mamba that came into our tent, and they're really deadly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is a snake?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Snakes. Snakes, yes, snakes. And then there was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How big?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, they're long and skinny. Long, bright, bright green. And then the black mamba is even more dangerous. It's just like it's over before you even see it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where, what did you do? How did you? What was that situation, when did you discover it?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:85", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.4405323698625, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Snakes. Snakes, yes, snakes. And then there was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How big?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, they're long and skinny. Long, bright, bright green. And then the black mamba is even more dangerous. It's just like it's over before you even see it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where, what did you do? How did you? What was that situation, when did you discover it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you just, you get out of the way. Well, you just get out of the way as fast as you can. Yeah. And just be glad you didn't step directly on him too. But there were times when, you know, you'd hear that. You'd be camping out and then you'd hear the hyenas or you'd, um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what's dangerous about a hyena?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:89", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.741397987484568, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you just, you get out of the way. Well, you just get out of the way as fast as you can. Yeah. And just be glad you didn't step directly on him too. But there were times when, you know, you'd hear that. You'd be camping out and then you'd hear the hyenas or you'd, um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what's dangerous about a hyena?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I know the most dangerous thing. Yes. This is the story. We were down in, before we left for the Peace Corps. You really want me to tell the really dangerous things?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Before we left for the Peace Corps, there was a story in the San Francisco Chronicle. This is really sad because there was a Peace Corps volunteer that was eaten by a crocodile and it was down near Gambela. And we had gone down to Gambela along the Baro River in Poquot. And when we were there, the crocodiles, they will snatch children off of the shore or women when they're washing. And this had happened. There was a very aggressive crocodile in the river. And so there was an old rusty gun in the village and they had the dugout canoes that went up and down the river. And so they handed the Peace Corps man this gun and said, would you please go try to kill this crocodile? Because it's killing our children. And so we together we get in this dugout canoe and they row, they canoe up to this big sand spit that's out in the middle of the Baro River. And you know, of course, the communication isn't great because it's another language there. It's more the Anuak tribes. And so they let us off there and we were just sort of following directions and then they continued on up the river."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is just the two of you?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.379331097205075, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I know the most dangerous thing. Yes. This is the story. We were down in, before we left for the Peace Corps. You really want me to tell the really dangerous things?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Before we left for the Peace Corps, there was a story in the San Francisco Chronicle. This is really sad because there was a Peace Corps volunteer that was eaten by a crocodile and it was down near Gambela. And we had gone down to Gambela along the Baro River in Poquot. And when we were there, the crocodiles, they will snatch children off of the shore or women when they're washing. And this had happened. There was a very aggressive crocodile in the river. And so there was an old rusty gun in the village and they had the dugout canoes that went up and down the river. And so they handed the Peace Corps man this gun and said, would you please go try to kill this crocodile? Because it's killing our children. And so we together we get in this dugout canoe and they row, they canoe up to this big sand spit that's out in the middle of the Baro River. And you know, of course, the communication isn't great because it's another language there. It's more the Anuak tribes. And so they let us off there and we were just sort of following directions and then they continued on up the river."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is just the two of you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just the two of us, and it's dusk."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the congressman with a gun."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:97", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 22.468218240336174, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which you're not supposed to have as a Peace Corps volunteer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At all. So we're standing back to back on the sand spit because it's getting dark and we're going like, what are we doing here? Are they coming back for us? Well, coming up onto that spit was the biggest crocodile you have ever seen in your life. I mean, we are talking, oh, I wish I had a picture of it here. Huge. And he came up and he was so shocked to see us there, just as we were shocked to see him. And he opened up, you know, up on his legs and John shot. We're not sure what happened, but then the gun jammed. And so we thought, this is it. And but then he was so startled by the shot that he spun around like a motorboat and went off across that water just. I can still see that tail flipping around as he went the other direction. And then we had to stand there waiting for the canoe to come back.\n\nAnd I told John at that time, I said, honey, if we can make it through this, we can make it through anything. We sort of have a code word, remember the crocodile? It's OK, we'll make it through this. So it was, uh, so that was a really life and death situation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Indeed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was really something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, indeed. Indeed."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 24.96468693370686, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At all. So we're standing back to back on the sand spit because it's getting dark and we're going like, what are we doing here? Are they coming back for us? Well, coming up onto that spit was the biggest crocodile you have ever seen in your life. I mean, we are talking, oh, I wish I had a picture of it here. Huge. And he came up and he was so shocked to see us there, just as we were shocked to see him. And he opened up, you know, up on his legs and John shot. We're not sure what happened, but then the gun jammed. And so we thought, this is it. And but then he was so startled by the shot that he spun around like a motorboat and went off across that water just. I can still see that tail flipping around as he went the other direction. And then we had to stand there waiting for the canoe to come back.\n\nAnd I told John at that time, I said, honey, if we can make it through this, we can make it through anything. We sort of have a code word, remember the crocodile? It's OK, we'll make it through this. So it was, uh, so that was a really life and death situation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Indeed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was really something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, indeed. Indeed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Especially with the story before we had left, you know, so it made it all so real. That's why we knew how we were in danger, but we didn't do that again. We learned. And I really enforced that no gun rule to the volunteers when I was, once I was in charge. I was like, oh my goodness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just back. One other less dangerous situation, the hyenas. What might they have done if they had approached your campsite with just the two of you there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:101", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 27.73854103745207, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it was really something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, indeed. Indeed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Especially with the story before we had left, you know, so it made it all so real. That's why we knew how we were in danger, but we didn't do that again. We learned. And I really enforced that no gun rule to the volunteers when I was, once I was in charge. I was like, oh my goodness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just back. One other less dangerous situation, the hyenas. What might they have done if they had approached your campsite with just the two of you there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it just depends on how hungry they are too or what's going on. They, you know, in Addis Ababa, they had the hyena man who used to feed the hyenas all the time and they would come and they would snap and they would grab the meat and everything. And then they grabbed him one time. So it wasn't, I don't really know what they would have done. I don't know how you frighten them away, but it just was an at-risk situation. Yeah, like you're sleeping out there and you're going like, what are we doing out here? Cause they come around. Of course now we have, you know, on our ranch, we have a lot of coyotes and mountain lions and things like that here in California. So we're not really so worried about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. OK, let's think a little bit about the time that you are winding down the service, meaning the time is expiring. You've got, you know you're going to have to do a transition. What did you experience? Did you think then about possibly staying longer and what did you then decide to do in terms of after Peace Corps experience?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:111", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.486292803353264, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, they're all in service. Of course, it's required to be at our Sunday dinner tables because John cooks every Sunday and everybody sits around this gigantic table that he built. And everybody, all the grandchildren, everybody shares and they hold up their hands and the children do. And grandma always asked, what did you do with these hands this week to serve? And they go around and they will say, I wiped some tears or I helped my teacher, whatever. But they all have to speak up to what they are doing to help this world. But our oldest was, um, she was born. Her name is Gannet. She was named after my best friend in Ethiopia. And my best friend Gannet named her daughter Patti, except she pronounced it potty."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Close enough."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that's, you know, and I think that is probably something you see with other returned volunteers. And then our son, he served in the Peace Corps in Paraguay with his wife, who's also a PhD in public health. And the two of them served in Peace Corps. And then I have a daughter who served in Honduras, who's also a family practice physician. And I have another daughter who served in Ecuador, who runs a women's health clinic. So four of my children have served, actually served in Peace Corps. And then the others serve in other ways. Mainly as teachers and educators working with difficult situations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right, right. So after you came back, you continued to do teaching in the Boston area."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then your children?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:113", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.651436448170292, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that's, you know, and I think that is probably something you see with other returned volunteers. And then our son, he served in the Peace Corps in Paraguay with his wife, who's also a PhD in public health. And the two of them served in Peace Corps. And then I have a daughter who served in Honduras, who's also a family practice physician. And I have another daughter who served in Ecuador, who runs a women's health clinic. So four of my children have served, actually served in Peace Corps. And then the others serve in other ways. Mainly as teachers and educators working with difficult situations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right, right. So after you came back, you continued to do teaching in the Boston area."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then your children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That school, Phillips Brooks School district, that was written up by Jonathan Kozol. That famous book. And I read that book when I was in my village and I requested that school and they were not going to give it to me. And I said, if you want me to teach, this is where I'm going to teach, and that's it, and I'm going to develop my own program. So it's a wonderful book."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is a wonderful book. I remember reading it myself when I was in teacher education."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:115", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.94604049796699, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then your children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That school, Phillips Brooks School district, that was written up by Jonathan Kozol. That famous book. And I read that book when I was in my village and I requested that school and they were not going to give it to me. And I said, if you want me to teach, this is where I'm going to teach, and that's it, and I'm going to develop my own program. So it's a wonderful book."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is a wonderful book. I remember reading it myself when I was in teacher education."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just didn't know if I explained that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Yes. Right. So you taught when you came back?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:117", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 14.384489442185545, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That school, Phillips Brooks School district, that was written up by Jonathan Kozol. That famous book. And I read that book when I was in my village and I requested that school and they were not going to give it to me. And I said, if you want me to teach, this is where I'm going to teach, and that's it, and I'm going to develop my own program. So it's a wonderful book."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is a wonderful book. I remember reading it myself when I was in teacher education."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just didn't know if I explained that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Yes. Right. So you taught when you came back?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you had, how many children do you have?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.289493138500672, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you had, how many children do you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have six. We had the first four very rapidly. And then we had one five years later and one five years after that. So we have 12 grandchildren."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wonderful."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we really are blessed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Congratulations, you really are blessed."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:123", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.988325709445192, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have six. We had the first four very rapidly. And then we had one five years later and one five years after that. So we have 12 grandchildren."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wonderful."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we really are blessed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Congratulations, you really are blessed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we live on a big cooperative ranch. Everybody said, how do you keep your children so, you know, they're all so international and they travel, but they all have real roots right there on the ranch that you have put together. And I said, well, they all have built homes there and we all run everything together. So to sustain it, make it sustainable. They have, you know, grass fed beef and they have, you know, sustainable gardens and an orchard and people. It's just like people come and go constantly. We have one daughter who just took her family around the world woofing [Worldwide Opportunities on Organic Farms], and that's working on all these different farms."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that's what woofing means?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:125", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.875917454939103, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we really are blessed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Congratulations, you really are blessed."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we live on a big cooperative ranch. Everybody said, how do you keep your children so, you know, they're all so international and they travel, but they all have real roots right there on the ranch that you have put together. And I said, well, they all have built homes there and we all run everything together. So to sustain it, make it sustainable. They have, you know, grass fed beef and they have, you know, sustainable gardens and an orchard and people. It's just like people come and go constantly. We have one daughter who just took her family around the world woofing [Worldwide Opportunities on Organic Farms], and that's working on all these different farms."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that's what woofing means?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's what woofing means. It is the most wonderful program in the whole world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it W-O-O-F?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:127", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 20.973241616599, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And we live on a big cooperative ranch. Everybody said, how do you keep your children so, you know, they're all so international and they travel, but they all have real roots right there on the ranch that you have put together. And I said, well, they all have built homes there and we all run everything together. So to sustain it, make it sustainable. They have, you know, grass fed beef and they have, you know, sustainable gardens and an orchard and people. It's just like people come and go constantly. We have one daughter who just took her family around the world woofing [Worldwide Opportunities on Organic Farms], and that's working on all these different farms."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that's what woofing means?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's what woofing means. It is the most wonderful program in the whole world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it W-O-O-F?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. I-N-G. Woofing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it means working on?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:129", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 22.192490685110002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's what woofing means. It is the most wonderful program in the whole world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it W-O-O-F?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. I-N-G. Woofing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it means working on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it's, um, you can google it up and you can connect with families all around the world that are offering their farms, that you can stay there and work on the farm with them for room and board. So they took an entire year with their children and did that. They did it really well. People were really lucky to have them because they're really good workers. They actually know how to farm and do these things. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. So tell us now about you personally in your professional life. You raise your, I'm assuming you did continue some, shall we say, work for pay, if you will. Or I mean, or some professional volunteering as your children were growing up?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:145", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.991, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "To my right and John is on the other side. And he, and I just remember at the beginning of dinner, he put head beautiful hands. He put his hands on the table and it was like, I've held that hand before. I have had the pleasure of shaking his hand before, but now it's the President of the United States' hands as of 24 hours ago. Can we hold hands and say the blessing or what do we do? And so it was that kind of thing. And then right after dinner it was, let's explore the White House, and we haven't been down to the movie theater yet. Let's take the elevator. So we went down and there are the four big chairs in the front row and the four of us sat down and he turns to me. He said, do you think we could get some popcorn? You know, because we'd chosen to watch the movie Lorenzo's Oil, which is a really important movie. And within moments, this big silver bowl of warm, buttered popcorn arrives. And so it was just, that's what, it was so wonderful.\n\nAnd Hillary loved the Peace Corps. There wasn't a moment that she traveled, that she didn't go and swear-in volunteers or pay attention to the volunteers. And every time I saw the president, every single time during his entire tenure in office, he always said, do you still, you still having fun at the Peace Corps? And I said, yes, I absolutely love it. That's true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That is a wonderful story. Spending a night at the White House."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was like from mud hut. It hasn't been such a bad ride, I told my husband. It's OK. From our first night in Metu, Ethiopia, to Lincoln's bedroom, it's OK. We can stick it, we can stick it out a little longer, with the crocodile in the middle. I think we got it together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You've got some bookends there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's amazing. That's amazing. Well, there's so many stories to tell."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:147", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.99, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was like from mud hut. It hasn't been such a bad ride, I told my husband. It's OK. From our first night in Metu, Ethiopia, to Lincoln's bedroom, it's OK. We can stick it, we can stick it out a little longer, with the crocodile in the middle. I think we got it together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You've got some bookends there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's amazing. That's amazing. Well, there's so many stories to tell."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those are the best."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, those are great stories. Those are great."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:149", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 11.1, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's amazing. That's amazing. Well, there's so many stories to tell."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those are the best."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, those are great stories. Those are great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Really fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, I think that we can kind of bring our conversation to a close. And as we do that, maybe you would like to reflect a little about the importance of that Peace Corps experience. Considering your personal background and your education, your opportunities in California, then that Peace Corps experience. And how did that impact your thinking and about the other choices you made?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00029:161", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The life of the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thank you. It was so fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you so much."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's Peace Corps. It's our life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It is our lives."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00090:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.285884103175306, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "International relations and diplomacy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very good. So how long was it from time of application until you were accepted?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't remember exactly. It was, it was fairly quick. I, I seem to remember it was, um, within a matter of months. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you feel when, when you got the notification that you were accepted?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ecstatic. Overjoyed. Uh, terrified. Um, a little, uh, shocked, I guess, as well. Just, it was a mix of emotions. Um, it's almost like, uh, someone coming and telling you suddenly that you're going to be a rock star or something in a lot of ways. It's just, you don't expect it, I guess. For you yourself, you always think, you know, I won't get something like this. And then when it happens, it's just, uh. It's, it's something really special."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, you don't want to get your hopes up too high."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00090:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.095426781305896, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't remember exactly. It was, it was fairly quick. I, I seem to remember it was, um, within a matter of months. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did you feel when, when you got the notification that you were accepted?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ecstatic. Overjoyed. Uh, terrified. Um, a little, uh, shocked, I guess, as well. Just, it was a mix of emotions. Um, it's almost like, uh, someone coming and telling you suddenly that you're going to be a rock star or something in a lot of ways. It's just, you don't expect it, I guess. For you yourself, you always think, you know, I won't get something like this. And then when it happens, it's just, uh. It's, it's something really special."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, you don't want to get your hopes up too high."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, exactly. And they tell you don't, you know, they say, don't walk into this process thinking that some, you're going to go down a particular path. You're probably going to end up in a completely different path if you end up along a path at all. And so it's, it's really, um, you have to walk into a situation like that with very reasonable expectations. And I tried to do that. I mean, I will admit that my hopes were up. Um, but I, I don't know, I guess I just really didn't think that it would really come to pass. And, and when it did, I was very happy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh, and what did your friends and family, uh, what was their reaction?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00090:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 26.377122019519202, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Seems, it's, it's been a while. I feel like it was a matter of weeks or like months or something. It was very, it was very short. It was all, once, once it happened, it was kind of a snowball running at that point. I think it was a matter of months before I was on the plane."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your recruiter was pretty accurate in telling you here's your choice."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Water sanitation in Mali."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or animal husbandry in Central America."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00090:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 29.307913355021334, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Water sanitation in Mali."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or animal husbandry in Central America."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Correct."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or wherever. So, so you knew, um, right away that when you were invited, you knew generally where you were going."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00090:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 28.119903727801482, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or animal husbandry in Central America."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Correct."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or wherever. So, so you knew, um, right away that when you were invited, you knew generally where you were going."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, once I agreed to a program, then he told me where I was going, and, um, he told me the country and, um, he gave me some bits of resources. They did send me some information in the mail, a packet. And so I was able to look through that. But it's not like today where you can Google everything and, you know, and suddenly you're a master at knowing everything. Um, if you're, you know, uh, studious enough, but, um. Yeah. So I didn't know when I agreed to it, but once I did agree to it at that moment, then he said, okay, are you ready to know where you're going to go? And I said, yes. And then he asked me again, are you still willing to go? I said, I've never heard of Mali.\n\nMost people, when I say that I've been to Mali, they say, don't you mean Bali? And they think of the island, this beautiful island, you know, it's tropical and gorgeous and flowers everywhere. No, Mali is not like that. It's a landlocked country, um, home to Timbuktu. And it's the, you know, the desert is creeping closer every day, every day and every year. And so it was a very dry climate there. It wasn't, um, it wasn't that sort of place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you, um, have any second thoughts before leaving, uh, about what you were doing?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00874:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The one encounter with JSC on that—of course, JSC has always been interested in the future of human exploration, that’s the main job of the Center—was I got called to have a phone call, and then a visit with one of your most famous people, George [W. S.] Abbey. Have you encountered George or heard about George?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well actually, interesting side note—George Abbey is the one that started the Oral History Project. It’s how we started in 1996."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, cool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was his idea. So yes, we have had encounters with George Abbey, who is another interesting personality."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. No, he is. Never in doubt about what he wants to do, or where he wants to go. Some people would call him “Darth Abbey.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Much like Dan Goldin, when he started our project he had a meeting, and at the end of the meeting he told a couple of people to stay for a minute. He told them, “I want to do this. Now, go do it.” You know, “No money really, but go do it.”"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00874:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. No, he is. Never in doubt about what he wants to do, or where he wants to go. Some people would call him “Darth Abbey.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Much like Dan Goldin, when he started our project he had a meeting, and at the end of the meeting he told a couple of people to stay for a minute. He told them, “I want to do this. Now, go do it.” You know, “No money really, but go do it.”"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. “You’ve got the hunting license, okay? What more do you need?”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Why don’t we wrap up there?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think it’s a good place. You defined it as a challenge and an opportunity to start with a blank sheet of paper, so maybe talk about how you go about building something from a blank sheet of paper the next time we talk. Then we can go on from there."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00712:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.666801493435806, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Orbiter is finally brought in somewhere in the four- to six-week timeframe from when SRB stacking has started, after ET mate is done, and then the Orbiter is rolled in on an Orbiter transporter into the VAB and then lifted off this transporter and rotated to vertical, and then, just like the external tank, lowered down to the integration cell, and a series of processes goes on where we go through soft mate and a hard mate to get the various different bolts and fasteners installed to secure the Orbiter to the side of the external tank."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What’s the difference between a soft mate and a hard mate?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Soft mate is where we’ve got the vehicle suspended from the overhead crane. Only a subset of the various fasteners that are required are installed, but it’s secure enough to allow the Orbiter-handling folks to go into the aft compartment of the Orbiter and do the process that involves the turnbuckle, which is essentially the jackscrew that draws the Orbiter into the mating surfaces of the external tank with those people in the aft compartment. Once the Orbiter is fully jacked into position and secured onto the vault fitting to the external tank, then we install the remaining fasteners, and that’s when we declare hard mate. At that point, the vehicle, the Orbiter, is being fully supported off of the external tank. The sling that lifted the Orbiter into the integration cell can then be detached, and the vehicle standing on its own supported by its attachment to the external tank and then ultimately through the solid rocket booster attachments down into the mobile launch platform to the hold-down posts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long does that whole process take?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Orbiter-mate process is on the order of about three days to go from vehicle roll-in to soft mate to hard mate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that an operation that runs twenty-four hours a day?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00712:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 20.740890548262005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Soft mate is where we’ve got the vehicle suspended from the overhead crane. Only a subset of the various fasteners that are required are installed, but it’s secure enough to allow the Orbiter-handling folks to go into the aft compartment of the Orbiter and do the process that involves the turnbuckle, which is essentially the jackscrew that draws the Orbiter into the mating surfaces of the external tank with those people in the aft compartment. Once the Orbiter is fully jacked into position and secured onto the vault fitting to the external tank, then we install the remaining fasteners, and that’s when we declare hard mate. At that point, the vehicle, the Orbiter, is being fully supported off of the external tank. The sling that lifted the Orbiter into the integration cell can then be detached, and the vehicle standing on its own supported by its attachment to the external tank and then ultimately through the solid rocket booster attachments down into the mobile launch platform to the hold-down posts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long does that whole process take?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Orbiter-mate process is on the order of about three days to go from vehicle roll-in to soft mate to hard mate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that an operation that runs twenty-four hours a day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is. The majority of our operations here, especially in critical milestones where we’re doing hardware integration like SRB stacking, ET mate, Orbiter mate, they’re twenty-four hours a day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you keep up with that? Do you work eight hours a day or do you work longer hours?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00712:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.712100609180006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The Orbiter-mate process is on the order of about three days to go from vehicle roll-in to soft mate to hard mate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is that an operation that runs twenty-four hours a day?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is. The majority of our operations here, especially in critical milestones where we’re doing hardware integration like SRB stacking, ET mate, Orbiter mate, they’re twenty-four hours a day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you keep up with that? Do you work eight hours a day or do you work longer hours?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, no, much longer hours, unfortunately. That was one of the things about this job that I think probably a lot of folks shied away from, but I actually kind of leapt at the opportunity. It definitely requires some very good flexibility and the ability to put in rather long days. I think my average day is somewhat in the order of about ten to eleven hours a day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you keep up with any sort of engineering or technical problems that might pop up?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00712:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 21.902334010200004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes it is. The majority of our operations here, especially in critical milestones where we’re doing hardware integration like SRB stacking, ET mate, Orbiter mate, they’re twenty-four hours a day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you keep up with that? Do you work eight hours a day or do you work longer hours?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, no, much longer hours, unfortunately. That was one of the things about this job that I think probably a lot of folks shied away from, but I actually kind of leapt at the opportunity. It definitely requires some very good flexibility and the ability to put in rather long days. I think my average day is somewhat in the order of about ten to eleven hours a day."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How do you keep up with any sort of engineering or technical problems that might pop up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, through my relationships with the various system engineers that work on the subcomponents of the external tank and solid rocket boosters, we have a network of communications and various log systems that they put notes into or emails, telephone calls. It’s a constant process of keeping communications going. Typically, if I haven’t heard from a particular system or group, I’ll go and I’ll go sit down with them face to face and talk with them, “How are things going?” Just to keep up a good rapport with them and remind them that any issues that they’re encountering or anything that they may think is a minor issue, to keep me involved or in the loop on it so that I can make sure that the design centers and the manufacturing locations are aware of any technical issues we may be having here, and any assistance that they could potentially offer us to either avoid a larger issue when a minor issue comes up or to resolve some of the major issues. So that that whole process, I guess that continuous loop, can function so that we can keep things kind of going at an even and sustainable pace."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think has been your biggest challenge since starting the job in terms of technical or engineering complications?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00712:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I had, just in a very limited capacity, because that was only about—let’s see. Katrina was the end of August 2005. I had only been on this job for about four and a half, five months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s right. I’m thinking Katrina was further back."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Katrina was 2005."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s right. In my head I was thinking it was further back in my timeframe. Well, that’s very interesting. I’m glad you shared that information with us. Anything else that you want to add? Anything about your accomplishments in this position or any other milestones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I can tell you that I feel like I’ve been very fortunate to have had the opportunities and been involved in the various different major issues that have come up with the external tank and the handful that have happened with solid rocket booster. I feel extremely proud to be part of these teams and to have been here and to be here at such an historic time to see us go from that rising up out of the ashes after Columbia now to flying the Shuttle into the history books here this week. Even knowing everything that I know now and all the turmoil and unfortunate situations, I see a lot of people, my contractors especially, and I wouldn’t have changed anything. I still would have taken this job, and I’m very grateful for the opportunities I’ve been given. This has been one heck of a ride."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I do wish you well this week, and I hope that we get off successfully on Friday."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00712:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Katrina was 2005."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s right. In my head I was thinking it was further back in my timeframe. Well, that’s very interesting. I’m glad you shared that information with us. Anything else that you want to add? Anything about your accomplishments in this position or any other milestones?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I can tell you that I feel like I’ve been very fortunate to have had the opportunities and been involved in the various different major issues that have come up with the external tank and the handful that have happened with solid rocket booster. I feel extremely proud to be part of these teams and to have been here and to be here at such an historic time to see us go from that rising up out of the ashes after Columbia now to flying the Shuttle into the history books here this week. Even knowing everything that I know now and all the turmoil and unfortunate situations, I see a lot of people, my contractors especially, and I wouldn’t have changed anything. I still would have taken this job, and I’m very grateful for the opportunities I’ve been given. This has been one heck of a ride."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I do wish you well this week, and I hope that we get off successfully on Friday."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, me too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So thank you very much for your time today. I certainly appreciate it, and I hope you have a good time at the Keys."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00712:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I can tell you that I feel like I’ve been very fortunate to have had the opportunities and been involved in the various different major issues that have come up with the external tank and the handful that have happened with solid rocket booster. I feel extremely proud to be part of these teams and to have been here and to be here at such an historic time to see us go from that rising up out of the ashes after Columbia now to flying the Shuttle into the history books here this week. Even knowing everything that I know now and all the turmoil and unfortunate situations, I see a lot of people, my contractors especially, and I wouldn’t have changed anything. I still would have taken this job, and I’m very grateful for the opportunities I’ve been given. This has been one heck of a ride."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I do wish you well this week, and I hope that we get off successfully on Friday."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, me too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So thank you very much for your time today. I certainly appreciate it, and I hope you have a good time at the Keys."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thank you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And have a relaxing vacation after what I’m sure has been a very hectic past five, six years."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00012:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.24659, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There's one other one I forgot to mention. It was a film event that happened virtually. A movie came out about the failed Iran hostage rescue mission, and Walter Mondale, Vice President Mondale, was on the call and that was really exciting. I had never got to meet him, but I got to sit in on a call just like a Zoom meeting with somebody."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was last year, probably in the fall. So, fall of 2020. That movie was really good. That's another nice thing. Because we worked on these films, they let us get a pre-screen. So that's why we got to see Rock & Roll President for example, because they use so much of our stuff to make those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is a question that I just came up with just on that same topic, contributing to movies. Did the Carter Library have any role in the creation of the film Argo several years ago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We have a lot of digitized stuff on that. I wasn't there then. It was very exciting. The actual CIA agent who came out with the book—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tony Mendez, yeah."}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00012:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 10, "return_to_go": 11.3851, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was last year, probably in the fall. So, fall of 2020. That movie was really good. That's another nice thing. Because we worked on these films, they let us get a pre-screen. So that's why we got to see Rock & Roll President for example, because they use so much of our stuff to make those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is a question that I just came up with just on that same topic, contributing to movies. Did the Carter Library have any role in the creation of the film Argo several years ago?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We have a lot of digitized stuff on that. I wasn't there then. It was very exciting. The actual CIA agent who came out with the book—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tony Mendez, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "—I read that book. It's a really good book. He came down to do research, and he actually spoke at the library. We used to have a thing called “The Carter Chronicles,” a blog about the library. I think that's one of the articles that's still out there in the ether somewhere. It is about Argo and how it relates to what really happened. I guess there were some liberties taken. Actually, I think what I heard is that President Carter thought the man who wrote it kind of gave himself more credit. That was sort of his take on it, that there were other people that were also involved. It wasn't all just him. Which I think in the book that's spelled out more than it might have been in the movie."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I had heard that, too. I guess that's with a lot of movies that are made that there are certain things that are going to be a little bit more dramatized when in reality, yeah, that was pretty anticlimactic. There wasn't that much to it. Lastly, unfortunately, you're going to be leaving the National Archives before too long. You're going to be taking a position as regional records officer with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Unfortunately, we're going to be sorry to lose you but definitely wish you the best of luck. You're going to be in a related field for sure. Anything else that you would like to tell us?"}]} {"block_id": "oral-history-at-the-national-archives-00012:43", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Excellent. Well, thank you very much. It's been about an hour and thank you very much for your time and definitely wish you the best of luck in your new role. Enjoy Colorado. I imagine it is going to have a much different feel from Georgia, but it's also a really, really pretty place to live."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I'm looking forward to it. I will miss NARA. I mean, it's been more than 10 years. I just think this is a really good opportunity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Excellent. Congratulations."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thanks for doing Zoom."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Best of luck to you."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00815:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 30.675673116202645, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Big, big smiles, yes. It's really neat. That's one of the best times, is opening the hatches, and everybody is just overcome with emotion and joy, the whole thing happening, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess there's no split between international parties there, everybody is so happy to see everybody else."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Yes. You know, it's funny, this hasn't happened since, but on the first docking, I went into the docking module and I looked through the little porthole because we were waiting for the pressure checks, and I've done this every time, and the Russians and Americans on board tend to come into here and wait. Their hatch is already open, and we're doing pressure checks with our hatch, and our hatch gets opened last to physically give us access, so you can look through this little porthole, and you can wave at the guys on the other side, and you'd see they're really antsy for us to open our hatch, \"Come on! What are you waiting for?\"\\n\\n But on the first one, I looked in there, and I thought, \"Wow. They've got their camera oriented this way.\" They were upside down compared to the way we were oriented in the Shuttle. So we opened the hatch, and Hoot was going to shake hands with Dezhurov, but he was upside down, and so we yelled across at Norm and said, \"Norm, you guys are upside down.\"\\n\\n He says, \"No. You guys are upside down.\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And everybody was right, I guess."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your work with the Russians with this program, was that your first exchange with them or had you worked with -"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00815:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 26.76009026691684, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your work with the Russians with this program, was that your first exchange with them or had you worked with -"}, {"role": "user", "content": "> With the Russians?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Yes. I'd never even met a Russian except for one time in my life in Berlin. That would have been about seventeen years ago, sixteen years ago. I went to Berlin when the [Berlin] Wall was still up, and if you'll remember, there was a quadrapartite agreement. The Russians, the Americans, the British, and the French all manned Berlin in sectors, and the Russians had a representative in the control tower at Templehof, which is the airport there. The four countries managed the air space for the Germans to fly in and out of Templehof. So they had a Russian in the control tower there, and he was a former MiG pilot. We were all F-15 pilots visiting, and we thought that was pretty weird. [Laughter] But other than that, until this program started, I hadn't had a chance to work with them at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember your first exchange, the first time you met them?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00815:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 29.84923219055808, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Yes. I'm trying to remember. Well, it was when Sergei and Vladimir Titov came here, and neither one of them spoke very much English at the time, and I didn't speak any Russian then. Met them in the hallways and welcome, and kind of awkward exchange, and at the gymnasium the same kind of thing, and then gradually got to talk to them more and more, and they got better in English.\\n\\n But I think the more pronounced first meeting was when I got assigned to STS-71 and we knew who we were going to be flying with, Nikolai Budarin and Anatoly Solovyev. When they first came over here, I had already started to learn some Russian, and we were going to take them to the Astros game and down to Galveston, and I took Nikolai in my little pickup. So we had a forty-five-minute drive to Galveston, and he didn't speak much English and I didn't speak much Russian, but we were able to, with a dictionary, talk about a few things on the way down there. You think about how the relationships started there and where they've evolved to today, it's pretty incredible, because we couldn't even talk to each other back then and now we do everything together. It's neat. But, yes, when you think back on how it really first started, you would tend to believe those that said, \"You'll never be able to make this work.\" So the fact that we did is pretty neat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where do you want to go from here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Me personally?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> I have so much on my plate, it's kind of out of control. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Bragging or complaining? [Laughter]"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00815:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 17, "return_to_go": 29.8324802117312, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Me personally?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> I have so much on my plate, it's kind of out of control. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Bragging or complaining? [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "> I don't know. I'm staying right here at NASA for at least the next several years. I'm hoping to fly a long-duration mission on the new station. We'd like to have some commanders of the Shuttle and that experience those people-- fly as commanders of the Space Station, too, for those increments when the Americans will be commanding it. So I'm looking to that opportunity a couple or three years from now. In the meantime, I'm sure they'll give me plenty to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You started with the program eight years ago?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00815:58", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.6297353203, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> You were there? That was a really hot night."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But still, the chance of a lifetime. I didn't notice the heat."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Is that right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I noticed it, but -"}, {"role": "user", "content": "> They tell me it was a pretty spectacular launch from a visual effects standpoint because it was clear enough that you could see it for a long time, plus the winds were blowing in the right direction to bring the sound back towards the viewing area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's too bad you can't be in two places at once."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00815:60", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.255261467, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Is that right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I noticed it, but -"}, {"role": "user", "content": "> They tell me it was a pretty spectacular launch from a visual effects standpoint because it was clear enough that you could see it for a long time, plus the winds were blowing in the right direction to bring the sound back towards the viewing area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's too bad you can't be in two places at once."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The last eight years, would you have done anything else, now that you've gone through all this? Can you imagine doing anything else?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00815:62", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 18.06140163, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> They tell me it was a pretty spectacular launch from a visual effects standpoint because it was clear enough that you could see it for a long time, plus the winds were blowing in the right direction to bring the sound back towards the viewing area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's too bad you can't be in two places at once."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The last eight years, would you have done anything else, now that you've gone through all this? Can you imagine doing anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "> No. I could imagine having done a lot of things better. [Laughter] That's always hindsight. But, no. Shoot, I've had a lot of people ask me if I'm ready to quit flying and go work for a living, and I say, \"Shoot. What would I want to do that for?\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you entered, did you have any idea that you would go through all of this change?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00815:64", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.7348907, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The last eight years, would you have done anything else, now that you've gone through all this? Can you imagine doing anything else?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "> No. I could imagine having done a lot of things better. [Laughter] That's always hindsight. But, no. Shoot, I've had a lot of people ask me if I'm ready to quit flying and go work for a living, and I say, \"Shoot. What would I want to do that for?\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you entered, did you have any idea that you would go through all of this change?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "> I had no clue. I mean, the Berlin Wall was still up. We were getting ready to fight the [Persian] Gulf War, and I almost ended up in Saudi Arabia for my Air Force assignment that was diverted here when NASA selected me. So where we are today I would have never, ever guessed or speculated this could have happened. It's a pretty amazing change of events."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell us about the ceremony when they opened the hatch, because we've heard that y'all don't shake hands, because it's bad luck, across the hatch."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00815:76", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Of course, right?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "> With jalapeños and the whole nine yards, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And tortillas."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Yes. Exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you for sharing with us about the feast. That's something that we can all visualize to a point. Of course, we weren't there.\n\nBut then when you think about it, that's pretty incredible, all these different nationalities up there in space."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00815:78", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 3.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> With jalapeños and the whole nine yards, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And tortillas."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Yes. Exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you for sharing with us about the feast. That's something that we can all visualize to a point. Of course, we weren't there.\n\nBut then when you think about it, that's pretty incredible, all these different nationalities up there in space."}, {"role": "user", "content": "> Oh, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A sign of new things to come."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00829:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 94.53805063160594, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "[We] never would have made it; never would have made the ’69 date without that all-up testing. You’d like to see that today. It’s a different environment—I don’t want to just say it’s because people won’t or can’t make decisions. The decision process now is so convoluted. The interference from external—from OMB [Office of Management and Budget], from GAO [Government Accountability Office], congressional committees micromanaging NASA—it would drive me berserk. I don’t think I could survive in the environment today. Just too much of a bureaucracy. This is not what NASA needs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We talked about Apollo 11, and you mentioned before about you knew exactly where you were when Kennedy was assassinated. Where were you when Apollo 11 landed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At JSC. I was down there with George Mueller and some of his colleagues. We were just outside the [Mission] Control Center, we weren’t inside. We were down there waiting and watching the TV, being somewhat astounded, as I recall, that the crew decided that there was no way they were going to take a snooze on the lunar surface at that point, so let’s get out and do something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There’s a decision."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Well, they made it. That was another one of those, remember where you were. And all the news coverage. I had been on for an interview with Walter Cronkite [broadcast journalist] explaining what some of the crew were doing when they got out there on the lunar surface."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that each one of the missions had its own goals and objectives. Do some stand out more than others for you?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00829:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 16, "return_to_go": 103.93116736845104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At JSC. I was down there with George Mueller and some of his colleagues. We were just outside the [Mission] Control Center, we weren’t inside. We were down there waiting and watching the TV, being somewhat astounded, as I recall, that the crew decided that there was no way they were going to take a snooze on the lunar surface at that point, so let’s get out and do something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There’s a decision."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Well, they made it. That was another one of those, remember where you were. And all the news coverage. I had been on for an interview with Walter Cronkite [broadcast journalist] explaining what some of the crew were doing when they got out there on the lunar surface."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that each one of the missions had its own goals and objectives. Do some stand out more than others for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, they were all superb missions. Look at what we learned. We learned so much from each of them, including getting surprises. Apollo 16, that was a Fra Mauro [formation] mission. What it turned out to be was not what all the photogeologic interpretations said it would be. So it really did bring home the limits of your ability to interpret orbital photography in terms of what’s actually on the ground. Even today as you look at both lunar and planetary photography, Mars photography, and you listen to interpretations, you somewhat shake your head and say, “Yeah, you may be right,” but you may not be if you really go down there and look on the surface. Orbital photography has come a long way but it still has its limits in your ability to interpret in very concrete terms what’s actually there on the ground."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you see that part of that package? You had been working with engineers. You worked with scientists. Then of course orbital photography grew into its own being. There was an evolution there, what originally started and then how it evolved through the lunar missions. How much were you involved with that? Were you helping with that or was it just something that you were overseeing and watching yourself?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:7", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.555683983121718, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the centrifuge is always fun, but hard work. We did all kinds of treadmill walking and running to exhaustion. We rode bicycles to exhaustion, but we disproved a lot of theory about human limits and endurance. The anechoic chamber was fun. That’s the place where you are isolated, can't hear a thing, can't see a thing. You go in not knowing how long you'll be in there. Some people told you to expect being in this environment for two or three days. It turned out to be an hour or something. So that was fun.\\n\\n What else? There are so many fun experiences, we'd never get on to space flight if we went into all of those. But they were all fascinating experiments trying to find out if the human organism had some weak spot that would make him, make the organism, unable to withstand space flight. And they tried hard to find one, but there weren't any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To your knowledge, were there other scientists or even physicians who were looking into that data on those tests, to see the limits?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, you mean now?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Are you aware of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, sure. Limits, human limits, are still being explored, and we're doing that today in terms of long-duration space flight, because that's one thing we still haven't proved: can we stand weightlessness for the duration of a Mars flight. And I often thought in the early days that, … these people … [were] being very undemocratic about the tests and the suspicions they had of us because we're being considered guilty of … being [un]able to withstand space flight, instead of being considered innocent … [at the outset]. We showed them we … [could] do it, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From what I understand, you broke a few … [records] yourself."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.061871092357464, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, you mean now?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes. Are you aware of them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, sure. Limits, human limits, are still being explored, and we're doing that today in terms of long-duration space flight, because that's one thing we still haven't proved: can we stand weightlessness for the duration of a Mars flight. And I often thought in the early days that, … these people … [were] being very undemocratic about the tests and the suspicions they had of us because we're being considered guilty of … being [un]able to withstand space flight, instead of being considered innocent … [at the outset]. We showed them we … [could] do it, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From what I understand, you broke a few … [records] yourself."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, but that's not important. And those tests, they revealed a lot of physical capabilities not really important to space flight, but they do … properly demonstrate perseverance. And, you know, you can do anything if you persevere. And where I did well, it was only because of perseverance, and there's a lot of things in space flight that require … [perseverance]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You're very modest."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 16.735412324841626, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, sure. Limits, human limits, are still being explored, and we're doing that today in terms of long-duration space flight, because that's one thing we still haven't proved: can we stand weightlessness for the duration of a Mars flight. And I often thought in the early days that, … these people … [were] being very undemocratic about the tests and the suspicions they had of us because we're being considered guilty of … being [un]able to withstand space flight, instead of being considered innocent … [at the outset]. We showed them we … [could] do it, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From what I understand, you broke a few … [records] yourself."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, but that's not important. And those tests, they revealed a lot of physical capabilities not really important to space flight, but they do … properly demonstrate perseverance. And, you know, you can do anything if you persevere. And where I did well, it was only because of perseverance, and there's a lot of things in space flight that require … [perseverance]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You're very modest."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, that's as it should be. We were very, very lucky people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that you, I think, were in the class with \"Deke\" [Donald K.] Slayton when you were actually going through the tests at the Lovelace Clinic."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 15.261569249824028, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, but that's not important. And those tests, they revealed a lot of physical capabilities not really important to space flight, but they do … properly demonstrate perseverance. And, you know, you can do anything if you persevere. And where I did well, it was only because of perseverance, and there's a lot of things in space flight that require … [perseverance]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You're very modest."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, that's as it should be. We were very, very lucky people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that you, I think, were in the class with \"Deke\" [Donald K.] Slayton when you were actually going through the tests at the Lovelace Clinic."}, {"role": "user", "content": "… [we were together at Wright-Pat [Wright-Patterson Air Force Base] but I think not at Lovelace.]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about him and what your personal impressions of him were?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.73507694424892, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, that's as it should be. We were very, very lucky people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that you, I think, were in the class with \"Deke\" [Donald K.] Slayton when you were actually going through the tests at the Lovelace Clinic."}, {"role": "user", "content": "… [we were together at Wright-Pat [Wright-Patterson Air Force Base] but I think not at Lovelace.]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about him and what your personal impressions of him were?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "… We [all] went through the same tests … [he did it] like everybody else did. The one thing that was a standout about Deke was that he was a non-swimmer, and he didn't tell anybody that he went through our training with the Navy SEALS, scuba diving and all that, and he never told anybody [about] that. He couldn't even swim. His wife used to talk about his practicing at home in the kitchen sink, inhaling through his mouth and exhaling through his nose. But that was a measure of his perseverance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think some of the selection criteria were? Talk about what the selection was at the time and how they decided they wanted particular people to go into the Mercury Program. Do you feel that anything stood out in your mind?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.372307715832132, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "… [we were together at Wright-Pat [Wright-Patterson Air Force Base] but I think not at Lovelace.]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about him and what your personal impressions of him were?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "… We [all] went through the same tests … [he did it] like everybody else did. The one thing that was a standout about Deke was that he was a non-swimmer, and he didn't tell anybody that he went through our training with the Navy SEALS, scuba diving and all that, and he never told anybody [about] that. He couldn't even swim. His wife used to talk about his practicing at home in the kitchen sink, inhaling through his mouth and exhaling through his nose. But that was a measure of his perseverance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think some of the selection criteria were? Talk about what the selection was at the time and how they decided they wanted particular people to go into the Mercury Program. Do you feel that anything stood out in your mind?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Anything stood out in the test program, you're saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, within the tests, when they decided to actually go ahead through the selection process and advance from those tests into the next round."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.191453017591257, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "… We [all] went through the same tests … [he did it] like everybody else did. The one thing that was a standout about Deke was that he was a non-swimmer, and he didn't tell anybody that he went through our training with the Navy SEALS, scuba diving and all that, and he never told anybody [about] that. He couldn't even swim. His wife used to talk about his practicing at home in the kitchen sink, inhaling through his mouth and exhaling through his nose. But that was a measure of his perseverance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you think some of the selection criteria were? Talk about what the selection was at the time and how they decided they wanted particular people to go into the Mercury Program. Do you feel that anything stood out in your mind?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Anything stood out in the test program, you're saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, within the tests, when they decided to actually go ahead through the selection process and advance from those tests into the next round."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we measured the guys very well and in lots of different areas, and all had some small -all made some contribution and some indication of suitability for space flight. None of those tests revealed anybody who was not suited for space flight, but the real critical test was to be found on the centrifuge. That has direct relationship to space flight. But everybody did that okay, too. However, you have to realize that men have certain limits, and we designed the machine and the flight profile to stay within those limits. We pushed the limits, because that was necessary for a number of reasons, but the human was the [major] determinant."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'd like to go on and ask you a little bit about once you were selected, what was the training like then? Was it very different than what you'd gone through as far as the initial test and selection rounds?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 20.212725575101395, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Anything stood out in the test program, you're saying?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, within the tests, when they decided to actually go ahead through the selection process and advance from those tests into the next round."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we measured the guys very well and in lots of different areas, and all had some small -all made some contribution and some indication of suitability for space flight. None of those tests revealed anybody who was not suited for space flight, but the real critical test was to be found on the centrifuge. That has direct relationship to space flight. But everybody did that okay, too. However, you have to realize that men have certain limits, and we designed the machine and the flight profile to stay within those limits. We pushed the limits, because that was necessary for a number of reasons, but the human was the [major] determinant."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'd like to go on and ask you a little bit about once you were selected, what was the training like then? Was it very different than what you'd gone through as far as the initial test and selection rounds?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. We continued to do a lot of work on the centrifuge, because now… the flight profile was better known and being tailored to both the ballistic flight and the orbital flight. The major difference was in developing procedures and building machinery and techniques to do what we decided some time before to try to do, but now we're building the machinery to do it. And that's fascinating, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were you involved in building the machinery itself?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.01413952789044, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we measured the guys very well and in lots of different areas, and all had some small -all made some contribution and some indication of suitability for space flight. None of those tests revealed anybody who was not suited for space flight, but the real critical test was to be found on the centrifuge. That has direct relationship to space flight. But everybody did that okay, too. However, you have to realize that men have certain limits, and we designed the machine and the flight profile to stay within those limits. We pushed the limits, because that was necessary for a number of reasons, but the human was the [major] determinant."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'd like to go on and ask you a little bit about once you were selected, what was the training like then? Was it very different than what you'd gone through as far as the initial test and selection rounds?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. We continued to do a lot of work on the centrifuge, because now… the flight profile was better known and being tailored to both the ballistic flight and the orbital flight. The major difference was in developing procedures and building machinery and techniques to do what we decided some time before to try to do, but now we're building the machinery to do it. And that's fascinating, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were you involved in building the machinery itself?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure. We were involved with every phase of the construction of our spacecraft. I happened to have personal responsibility for navigation and communications. I had done that in the Navy at the [Patuxent River, Maryland, Naval Air] Test Center. I also had experience in a Navy airplane, this photographic airplane, photo recon, that had a big viewport like this, similar to what we would have in the spacecraft. So each of us brought past experience to the endeavor, along with our burning desire to see if we could do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you do as far as tracking the communication and navigation equipment advances?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 20.01571058654493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. We continued to do a lot of work on the centrifuge, because now… the flight profile was better known and being tailored to both the ballistic flight and the orbital flight. The major difference was in developing procedures and building machinery and techniques to do what we decided some time before to try to do, but now we're building the machinery to do it. And that's fascinating, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were you involved in building the machinery itself?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure. We were involved with every phase of the construction of our spacecraft. I happened to have personal responsibility for navigation and communications. I had done that in the Navy at the [Patuxent River, Maryland, Naval Air] Test Center. I also had experience in a Navy airplane, this photographic airplane, photo recon, that had a big viewport like this, similar to what we would have in the spacecraft. So each of us brought past experience to the endeavor, along with our burning desire to see if we could do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you do as far as tracking the communication and navigation equipment advances?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I followed the development of the communications system, but navigation is a misnomer. You couldn't navigate that machine. It was a bullet, and you could decide when to come down, but after you'd made that decision, you couldn't aim it. It was already aimed. So, navigation had some input to the charts we used, but not in getting from one place to another, except from launch to entry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the communications system? How were you involved there? Were you working with the McDonnell [Aircraft Corporation] plans?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.017456207272144, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure. We were involved with every phase of the construction of our spacecraft. I happened to have personal responsibility for navigation and communications. I had done that in the Navy at the [Patuxent River, Maryland, Naval Air] Test Center. I also had experience in a Navy airplane, this photographic airplane, photo recon, that had a big viewport like this, similar to what we would have in the spacecraft. So each of us brought past experience to the endeavor, along with our burning desire to see if we could do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you do as far as tracking the communication and navigation equipment advances?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I followed the development of the communications system, but navigation is a misnomer. You couldn't navigate that machine. It was a bullet, and you could decide when to come down, but after you'd made that decision, you couldn't aim it. It was already aimed. So, navigation had some input to the charts we used, but not in getting from one place to another, except from launch to entry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the communications system? How were you involved there? Were you working with the McDonnell [Aircraft Corporation] plans?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We worked with Collins [Radio Company]. They made our radios. We didn't have expertise in design of communications equipment, but we were apprised of all the developments, and we had editorial rights. If we didn't like what they had decided to do, we'd change it, and they never decided to do anything, really, without checking with the forces that controlled all of this at NASA."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's probably very good and… [interrupted]"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 22.24161800808016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I followed the development of the communications system, but navigation is a misnomer. You couldn't navigate that machine. It was a bullet, and you could decide when to come down, but after you'd made that decision, you couldn't aim it. It was already aimed. So, navigation had some input to the charts we used, but not in getting from one place to another, except from launch to entry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about the communications system? How were you involved there? Were you working with the McDonnell [Aircraft Corporation] plans?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We worked with Collins [Radio Company]. They made our radios. We didn't have expertise in design of communications equipment, but we were apprised of all the developments, and we had editorial rights. If we didn't like what they had decided to do, we'd change it, and they never decided to do anything, really, without checking with the forces that controlled all of this at NASA."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's probably very good and… [interrupted]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was very well handled."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did anything stand out in your mind as far as your training went that was actually original or most memorable?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 22.49068667564462, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We worked with Collins [Radio Company]. They made our radios. We didn't have expertise in design of communications equipment, but we were apprised of all the developments, and we had editorial rights. If we didn't like what they had decided to do, we'd change it, and they never decided to do anything, really, without checking with the forces that controlled all of this at NASA."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's probably very good and… [interrupted]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was very well handled."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did anything stand out in your mind as far as your training went that was actually original or most memorable?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had a lot of fascinating simulators. You know, the simulation field started in aviation a long time ago with the Link trainer, but we really put some fine touches on the Link trainer, and we had some fascinating machines that allowed us to experience everything we would experience in flight, everything with the exception – if you couple it with work on the centrifuge, everything except [prolonged weightlessness and] the impact with the water. And that was benign, too. I'm just reminded of a device used in selection. That is a funny machine, and I wish it could be recreated. It was called \"the panic box.\" You've heard about the panic box?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, I haven’t. Please tell me."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:45", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.568135347823957, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Something like that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think those were F-102s. Wally and I were chase pilots and in 102s, and that was because launch operations was run by [Walter C.]Walt Williams, who had had his upbringing at Edwards [Air Force Base, CA], where every new airplane, first flight, had a couple of chase planes to make sure there's somebody there watching what's going on. And so it sounded reasonable that we should have somebody chasing Al Shepard.\\n\\n So Wally and I were there … [flying circles around the pad], and I think we had radio contact with the count. When Wally comes down, you can check with him about this, but I don't remember hearing the countdown, and I don't remember seeing Al one second, because we're going this way and he's going this way. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Straight up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't see a thing, … [and] I don't think Wally did either. So we didn't chase any flights after that. And it's a good custom, but it had, in the Space Age, outworn its usefulness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it was just such and unknown at that time."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.409039275359952, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think those were F-102s. Wally and I were chase pilots and in 102s, and that was because launch operations was run by [Walter C.]Walt Williams, who had had his upbringing at Edwards [Air Force Base, CA], where every new airplane, first flight, had a couple of chase planes to make sure there's somebody there watching what's going on. And so it sounded reasonable that we should have somebody chasing Al Shepard.\\n\\n So Wally and I were there … [flying circles around the pad], and I think we had radio contact with the count. When Wally comes down, you can check with him about this, but I don't remember hearing the countdown, and I don't remember seeing Al one second, because we're going this way and he's going this way. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Straight up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't see a thing, … [and] I don't think Wally did either. So we didn't chase any flights after that. And it's a good custom, but it had, in the Space Age, outworn its usefulness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it was just such and unknown at that time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Along with many others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then when you were acting as Mr. Glenn's, Senator Glenn's, backup, can I ask you something about some of the things that you did, and did you train together?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.343376972622169, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't see a thing, … [and] I don't think Wally did either. So we didn't chase any flights after that. And it's a good custom, but it had, in the Space Age, outworn its usefulness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it was just such and unknown at that time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Along with many others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then when you were acting as Mr. Glenn's, Senator Glenn's, backup, can I ask you something about some of the things that you did, and did you train together?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did everything together, yes, and that went on for quite a while. We learned so much then, too. We learned so much about what we should do and so much about what we both should not do and should not have done. But that's the name of this game. Sure, we were shadows, each of the other, for a long time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you still maintain a good relationship with him?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.381529969580187, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Along with many others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then when you were acting as Mr. Glenn's, Senator Glenn's, backup, can I ask you something about some of the things that you did, and did you train together?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did everything together, yes, and that went on for quite a while. We learned so much then, too. We learned so much about what we should do and so much about what we both should not do and should not have done. But that's the name of this game. Sure, we were shadows, each of the other, for a long time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you still maintain a good relationship with him?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. Sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'd like to ask you a little bit about your flight, and I don't want to go delve into it too much, because there's so much about it that's written, and I don't what to bore you or have redundant information."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.535033299533541, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did everything together, yes, and that went on for quite a while. We learned so much then, too. We learned so much about what we should do and so much about what we both should not do and should not have done. But that's the name of this game. Sure, we were shadows, each of the other, for a long time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you still maintain a good relationship with him?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. Sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'd like to ask you a little bit about your flight, and I don't want to go delve into it too much, because there's so much about it that's written, and I don't what to bore you or have redundant information."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's no matter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'd like to ask you, what did you do to prepare for it? Was it much of the same training?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.81670366614838, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. Sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'd like to ask you a little bit about your flight, and I don't want to go delve into it too much, because there's so much about it that's written, and I don't what to bore you or have redundant information."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's no matter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'd like to ask you, what did you do to prepare for it? Was it much of the same training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The same thing everybody else did. We designed our own flight plan, and then we put it into an operational schedule and got in the simulator and practiced, just like everybody else had done. I had spent a lot of time in the simulator doing John's plan, but then, after he flew, I got back in the simulator and did my plan. That's fun, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you learn a lot from his mission?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.240781851275976, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's no matter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'd like to ask you, what did you do to prepare for it? Was it much of the same training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The same thing everybody else did. We designed our own flight plan, and then we put it into an operational schedule and got in the simulator and practiced, just like everybody else had done. I had spent a lot of time in the simulator doing John's plan, but then, after he flew, I got back in the simulator and did my plan. That's fun, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you learn a lot from his mission?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yes. Of course. We learned a lot from each mission, but it gave us confidence in the machine and it also opened up the flight plan for some scientific pursuits that were not just experimental flight-test objectives, and that was fun, too. I was glad about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were actually probably one of the first in space, actually, to conduct scientific experiments during your mission."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.823090945862194, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The same thing everybody else did. We designed our own flight plan, and then we put it into an operational schedule and got in the simulator and practiced, just like everybody else had done. I had spent a lot of time in the simulator doing John's plan, but then, after he flew, I got back in the simulator and did my plan. That's fun, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you learn a lot from his mission?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yes. Of course. We learned a lot from each mission, but it gave us confidence in the machine and it also opened up the flight plan for some scientific pursuits that were not just experimental flight-test objectives, and that was fun, too. I was glad about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were actually probably one of the first in space, actually, to conduct scientific experiments during your mission."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I guess that's so, but the whole thing is, John's flight was certainly concerned with science, but it was more inside the machine than it was outside in the environment, and I was, quite frankly, more interested in where I was than I was in what got me where I was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about that, your experience on your flight?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.581212162069104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yes. Of course. We learned a lot from each mission, but it gave us confidence in the machine and it also opened up the flight plan for some scientific pursuits that were not just experimental flight-test objectives, and that was fun, too. I was glad about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were actually probably one of the first in space, actually, to conduct scientific experiments during your mission."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I guess that's so, but the whole thing is, John's flight was certainly concerned with science, but it was more inside the machine than it was outside in the environment, and I was, quite frankly, more interested in where I was than I was in what got me where I was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about that, your experience on your flight?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we didn't know about how a lot of things would behave in zero-G, outside. We didn't know anything about the slipstream. We didn't know anything about how well we could see certain celestial phenomena, sunsets and sunrises and occlusion of the stars at the horizon. There was just an awful lot of questions that we were asking.\\n\\n And I have a good curiosity, and I'm always eager to answer and ask questions. That's what this flight did. It asked a lot of questions and brought home some new truths, one of which cleared up the mystery of John Glenn's fireflies. We really didn't – just as in those days we didn't really know for sure that the moon was not made out of green cheese, expected it wasn't, but didn't know. John saw these fireflies just prior to entry and called them fireflies, and we really didn't know for sure that there weren't some sort of living, glowing critters out there. A big question mark. It turns out they were ice that had condensed and adhered to the spacecraft when you hit the side, and they'd float off. A big mystery. It seems like nothing now, but it satisfied a lot of curious folks in its time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you think was the most important thing that you learned either personally or professionally on that flight?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 24.05305923192974, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, okay. There were three contributors to an overshoot. One of them was – the major one was that the spacecraft was out of alignment. It is not known how much out of alignment. It was good in pitch and roll, but yaw, I had faulty yaw indicator readings, and there's no way you can read yaw by looking at the horizon. But it had given me some trouble for half an hour or more before retrofire. So there was that misalignment which made me go too far. They were late by a second and a half or two because the gyros being not indicating properly; I had caged them and I had to set them off manually. That contributed to an overshoot, and they were under thrust, as well. All of these things made me go too far, and I managed my fuel supply badly on the second orbit over Australia. There was excessive fuel use, which scared a lot of the folks on the ground. There was enough. There was enough for the entry. A lot of people thought there would not be. And it was anybody's guess.\\n\\n It was interesting to me to note that on the last part of the entry, when I was out of fuel, that very fact proved that that particular aerodynamic shape had the stability that was designed into it, so that there was reason to believe that you could make a good entry without any fuel. It's not necessary to try, but it proved the value of the design."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[to third party] Thank you, I appreciate that. And I also understand you had some trouble with your suit, your pressure suit, as well."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it overheated. That was over Australia. That was bothersome."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did they learn anything from that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't. I don't know whether that failure was ever pinpointed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'd like to ask you a little bit about your recovery. I read your flight plan from after the flight as well, and you discussed how you inflated your raft and you basically egressed from the spacecraft, and you were just on your own, biding your own time, and you mentioned you were just taking in your surroundings."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 24.5033991465886, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it overheated. That was over Australia. That was bothersome."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did they learn anything from that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't. I don't know whether that failure was ever pinpointed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'd like to ask you a little bit about your recovery. I read your flight plan from after the flight as well, and you discussed how you inflated your raft and you basically egressed from the spacecraft, and you were just on your own, biding your own time, and you mentioned you were just taking in your surroundings."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I had sort of a blessing there for the hour after the flight. Everybody else had been confronted immediately with a debriefing team, and that's an occupational hazard. Nobody knew where I was, and I didn't know that. I knew where I was. [Chuckles] But I didn't know that they didn't know back on shore.\\n\\n So I climbed out, I got in the life raft, and I had a quiet time to contemplate what had happened, and I treasure the recollection of that. Pretty soon – and I wasn't worried, either, because there's a SARAH [Search and Rescue and Homing] beacon that's sending out signals to a lot of people listening, and I just didn't even think about it. But pretty soon a plane turned up. It was a plane I used to fly, and I waved to it. Then another plane turned up, and there were, before I was picked up, I think, seven airplanes flying around me, and I got tired of waving at them. I didn't pay any attention to them.\\n\\n I was sitting there in the raft, and I heard this calm voice say, \"Hi, there.\" And three Navy SEALS had jumped out of one of the airplanes and swam up … [to] me. They had a big raft [to] put around the spacecraft. So we talked a little bit, and I offered them some of my survival food. They said they weren't hungry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of survival food was that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 19, "return_to_go": 28.12537605842057, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I don't know. It was in a package that came out with the life raft, a candy bar and some other high-energy food. Then years and years and years later, I went to a meeting in [the] San Bernardino Courthouse. Some people came in, and I stood up, and, … [said,] \"Nice to meet you.\" This was two decades after that. This fellow shook hands and said, \"We've met before.\" I said, \"I'm sorry. I've forgotten. Where was it?\" He said, \"It was in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean,\" and he was one of the guys who had jumped out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s really interesting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was nice to see him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's terrific. I guess I'd like to go on and ask you a little bit about what you did for post flight. I understand that you had to debrief the press."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wait. I don't understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After your flight, you debriefed the press and you debriefed NASA. What activities did you move on to from there? Were you working still in the Mercury Program?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:85", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.314549700381908, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we had a lot of tasks to perform in the water outside Sealab, and the problem in the water is you don't have traction, and it's because your weight is negated by the buoyancy, by the water. You need foot rests, something that allows you to stand solidly somewhere like you do here, and if you're in a buoyant medium like water, you can't do that. You've got to provide an artificial restraint. That was done in space flight, partly because of what we learned and planned to do things like that in the water, and it was a very good transfer of technology this time from the ocean to space."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Going back to your first response about Sealab and working with Jacques Cousteau, what type of technology was transferred from the space technology into this area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, a lot of it came from the semi-closed circuit breathing devices that we used, and then the closed circuit devices. That's what we used on the moon and used for EVA [Extravehicular Activity]. There's a lot of transfer there. The same kind of underwear that keeps you warm when you're cold and cold when you're hot is worn by [deep sea] divers … [and men] on the moon … So there was a lot of cross-transfer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It seems like there is a very big difference in the pressure that you experience in space inside that gear and under water, especially if you're very deep under water, there's significant…"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yes, except it's a different thing. A swimmer in deep water has an awful lot of water pressure on him, but he doesn't feel it. He can stand over-pressure much more easily than he can under-pressure. The space environment outside the Shuttle, for instance, is fatal. The environment outside a Sealab down to 2,000 feet is fine. We can't go much below that, not because of the pressure effects on the body, but because of the body's response to high-pressure breathing mixes – helium, nitrogen, oxygen, and hydrogen. There's some big unknown there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about your experience in Sealab and what you did?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:87", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.34949966709101, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, a lot of it came from the semi-closed circuit breathing devices that we used, and then the closed circuit devices. That's what we used on the moon and used for EVA [Extravehicular Activity]. There's a lot of transfer there. The same kind of underwear that keeps you warm when you're cold and cold when you're hot is worn by [deep sea] divers … [and men] on the moon … So there was a lot of cross-transfer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It seems like there is a very big difference in the pressure that you experience in space inside that gear and under water, especially if you're very deep under water, there's significant…"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yes, except it's a different thing. A swimmer in deep water has an awful lot of water pressure on him, but he doesn't feel it. He can stand over-pressure much more easily than he can under-pressure. The space environment outside the Shuttle, for instance, is fatal. The environment outside a Sealab down to 2,000 feet is fine. We can't go much below that, not because of the pressure effects on the body, but because of the body's response to high-pressure breathing mixes – helium, nitrogen, oxygen, and hydrogen. There's some big unknown there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about your experience in Sealab and what you did?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "... [Many don't realize that Sealab was not just a sealed submarine sitting on the ocean floor. It is pressurized and open to the sea so we could work outside on the ocean floor.] Every man had one one-hour dive … sometimes two … [W]e did engineering experiments on salvage equipment; we did marine geology experiments, marine biology, physical oceanography experiments; we did some agricultural experiments inside the lab; and a lot of human physiology. We kept people pretty busy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And is there still, to this day, a lot of transfer between the underwater program … the space program?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:89", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.499444074545567, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yes, except it's a different thing. A swimmer in deep water has an awful lot of water pressure on him, but he doesn't feel it. He can stand over-pressure much more easily than he can under-pressure. The space environment outside the Shuttle, for instance, is fatal. The environment outside a Sealab down to 2,000 feet is fine. We can't go much below that, not because of the pressure effects on the body, but because of the body's response to high-pressure breathing mixes – helium, nitrogen, oxygen, and hydrogen. There's some big unknown there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about your experience in Sealab and what you did?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "... [Many don't realize that Sealab was not just a sealed submarine sitting on the ocean floor. It is pressurized and open to the sea so we could work outside on the ocean floor.] Every man had one one-hour dive … sometimes two … [W]e did engineering experiments on salvage equipment; we did marine geology experiments, marine biology, physical oceanography experiments; we did some agricultural experiments inside the lab; and a lot of human physiology. We kept people pretty busy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And is there still, to this day, a lot of transfer between the underwater program … the space program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "… Space flight tells us a lot about the ocean that we didn't know before and that we couldn't really learn [before] … The sensors we carry in orbiting spacecraft can tell us an awful lot about what's going on on the planet, on dry land, in the water column, and on the ocean floor that we can't learn any other way…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you returned … to NASA after your leave of absence, did you work at all in EVA training?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 11.666048971717295, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "... [Many don't realize that Sealab was not just a sealed submarine sitting on the ocean floor. It is pressurized and open to the sea so we could work outside on the ocean floor.] Every man had one one-hour dive … sometimes two … [W]e did engineering experiments on salvage equipment; we did marine geology experiments, marine biology, physical oceanography experiments; we did some agricultural experiments inside the lab; and a lot of human physiology. We kept people pretty busy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And is there still, to this day, a lot of transfer between the underwater program … the space program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "… Space flight tells us a lot about the ocean that we didn't know before and that we couldn't really learn [before] … The sensors we carry in orbiting spacecraft can tell us an awful lot about what's going on on the planet, on dry land, in the water column, and on the ocean floor that we can't learn any other way…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you returned … to NASA after your leave of absence, did you work at all in EVA training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "… [Y]es, but it wasn't known as an EVA trainer. It was neutral buoyancy, I think we called [it]. … [A] small tank … led to this. It was [a] humble beginning, but it was very helpful in designing procedures and equipment for use in Apollo and on the moon and, of course, in the Shuttle Program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me about the first neutral buoyancy lab?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:93", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 10.740054413019216, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "… Space flight tells us a lot about the ocean that we didn't know before and that we couldn't really learn [before] … The sensors we carry in orbiting spacecraft can tell us an awful lot about what's going on on the planet, on dry land, in the water column, and on the ocean floor that we can't learn any other way…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you returned … to NASA after your leave of absence, did you work at all in EVA training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "… [Y]es, but it wasn't known as an EVA trainer. It was neutral buoyancy, I think we called [it]. … [A] small tank … led to this. It was [a] humble beginning, but it was very helpful in designing procedures and equipment for use in Apollo and on the moon and, of course, in the Shuttle Program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me about the first neutral buoyancy lab?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was very small, … but about the time it got finished, I left for Washington … [for Sealab III] I was in it a couple of times … but I didn't do any space flight analog experiments in it that I can remember. … [I]t worked well, and Huntsville built a big one, too. … [I]t turned out to be a very good idea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess so. When you see the size of this… [Brief interruption; battery change.] So what, then, did you work on after you worked on the Sealab Program and coming back and working with underwater training? I understand you worked with some LEM [Lunar Excursion Module] development at that time."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:95", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.711171570021351, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "… [Y]es, but it wasn't known as an EVA trainer. It was neutral buoyancy, I think we called [it]. … [A] small tank … led to this. It was [a] humble beginning, but it was very helpful in designing procedures and equipment for use in Apollo and on the moon and, of course, in the Shuttle Program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me about the first neutral buoyancy lab?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was very small, … but about the time it got finished, I left for Washington … [for Sealab III] I was in it a couple of times … but I didn't do any space flight analog experiments in it that I can remember. … [I]t worked well, and Huntsville built a big one, too. … [I]t turned out to be a very good idea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess so. When you see the size of this… [Brief interruption; battery change.] So what, then, did you work on after you worked on the Sealab Program and coming back and working with underwater training? I understand you worked with some LEM [Lunar Excursion Module] development at that time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yes, and I worked with the Grumman [Aircraft Engineering Corporation] folks on LEM design."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can I ask, what did you do?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:97", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.679079522245946, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was very small, … but about the time it got finished, I left for Washington … [for Sealab III] I was in it a couple of times … but I didn't do any space flight analog experiments in it that I can remember. … [I]t worked well, and Huntsville built a big one, too. … [I]t turned out to be a very good idea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess so. When you see the size of this… [Brief interruption; battery change.] So what, then, did you work on after you worked on the Sealab Program and coming back and working with underwater training? I understand you worked with some LEM [Lunar Excursion Module] development at that time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yes, and I worked with the Grumman [Aircraft Engineering Corporation] folks on LEM design."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can I ask, what did you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Went to Grumman, talked about cockpit layout, cockpit indicators. That's where LEDs [Light-Emitting Diodes] were first brought to use. We were on the cutting edge of technology then, but we look back at it now, and it's Model Ts, so it was ancient, but fun. That's progress."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you come up with the concept of a cockpit layout for something that was totally…[interrupted]?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 10.754532802495495, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yes, and I worked with the Grumman [Aircraft Engineering Corporation] folks on LEM design."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can I ask, what did you do?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Went to Grumman, talked about cockpit layout, cockpit indicators. That's where LEDs [Light-Emitting Diodes] were first brought to use. We were on the cutting edge of technology then, but we look back at it now, and it's Model Ts, so it was ancient, but fun. That's progress."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you come up with the concept of a cockpit layout for something that was totally…[interrupted]?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "… [The LEM] design … has [been] contributed to by hundreds of people, but we at NASA had editorial rights … so to speak, because … [we were] the user, but a lot of good thought from a lot of people went into [the] final design."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you recall any of the people that you worked with?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:101", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.616147558328327, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Went to Grumman, talked about cockpit layout, cockpit indicators. That's where LEDs [Light-Emitting Diodes] were first brought to use. We were on the cutting edge of technology then, but we look back at it now, and it's Model Ts, so it was ancient, but fun. That's progress."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you come up with the concept of a cockpit layout for something that was totally…[interrupted]?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "… [The LEM] design … has [been] contributed to by hundreds of people, but we at NASA had editorial rights … so to speak, because … [we were] the user, but a lot of good thought from a lot of people went into [the] final design."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you recall any of the people that you worked with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Bob Smyth was the Grumman test pilot who I had, and still have, very high regard for. Neil [A.] Armstrong and I worked a lot with the cockpit layout. [Edwin E.] “Buzz” [Aldrin, Jr.], too. A lot of people did that. It was a big team effort, and it was a great team, and the team effort was so much fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And I'm assuming, then, that they had already decided to go with the LOR, or Lunar Orbital Rendezvous, decision at that time."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:103", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.351275064809252, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "… [The LEM] design … has [been] contributed to by hundreds of people, but we at NASA had editorial rights … so to speak, because … [we were] the user, but a lot of good thought from a lot of people went into [the] final design."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you recall any of the people that you worked with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Bob Smyth was the Grumman test pilot who I had, and still have, very high regard for. Neil [A.] Armstrong and I worked a lot with the cockpit layout. [Edwin E.] “Buzz” [Aldrin, Jr.], too. A lot of people did that. It was a big team effort, and it was a great team, and the team effort was so much fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And I'm assuming, then, that they had already decided to go with the LOR, or Lunar Orbital Rendezvous, decision at that time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That was decided, I think, in '62, early on, maybe '63. I'm not sure. A lot of people and a lot of compromises involved in that, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how many years did you work in that area, developing it?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:105", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.168083405343614, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Bob Smyth was the Grumman test pilot who I had, and still have, very high regard for. Neil [A.] Armstrong and I worked a lot with the cockpit layout. [Edwin E.] “Buzz” [Aldrin, Jr.], too. A lot of people did that. It was a big team effort, and it was a great team, and the team effort was so much fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And I'm assuming, then, that they had already decided to go with the LOR, or Lunar Orbital Rendezvous, decision at that time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That was decided, I think, in '62, early on, maybe '63. I'm not sure. A lot of people and a lot of compromises involved in that, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how many years did you work in that area, developing it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, I left in '67. So from '62 on, with the exception of the time I spent with Sealab, it was … [LEM] and … neutral buoyancy, the tank."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then I believe you were also an executive assistant to Dr. Gilruth."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:107", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.853426005937349, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That was decided, I think, in '62, early on, maybe '63. I'm not sure. A lot of people and a lot of compromises involved in that, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how many years did you work in that area, developing it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, I left in '67. So from '62 on, with the exception of the time I spent with Sealab, it was … [LEM] and … neutral buoyancy, the tank."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then I believe you were also an executive assistant to Dr. Gilruth."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I worked a while for Bob. I didn't care too much for that, but I still kept a finger on the pulse of space flight. But it was not long after that that I decided I would like to continue with the underwater work. I was fascinated with that, and it's something I hadn't done. It also was something that – that's sort of a long story, but I was afraid of the deep ocean open water. I had [a] survival exercise with my crew in Hawaii, and we were out in a life raft simulating ditching at sea. We lost our radar reflector over the side, and my gunner's mate went over for it, and he got it, but he dived into that water that was, as far as I was concerned, filled with sharks, and I wouldn't do that. I realized that I had an unreasonable fear of the ocean, and I was uncomfortable with that … [T]hat was part of the driving force that made me want to work in the ocean. I wanted to get rid of that fear. And I did that. A lot of people have done that since the sixties… [A]s a diving community, [we're not nearly as afraid] these days of sharks as we once were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you approached any in your recent dives?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.503806673263721, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, I left in '67. So from '62 on, with the exception of the time I spent with Sealab, it was … [LEM] and … neutral buoyancy, the tank."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then I believe you were also an executive assistant to Dr. Gilruth."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I worked a while for Bob. I didn't care too much for that, but I still kept a finger on the pulse of space flight. But it was not long after that that I decided I would like to continue with the underwater work. I was fascinated with that, and it's something I hadn't done. It also was something that – that's sort of a long story, but I was afraid of the deep ocean open water. I had [a] survival exercise with my crew in Hawaii, and we were out in a life raft simulating ditching at sea. We lost our radar reflector over the side, and my gunner's mate went over for it, and he got it, but he dived into that water that was, as far as I was concerned, filled with sharks, and I wouldn't do that. I realized that I had an unreasonable fear of the ocean, and I was uncomfortable with that … [T]hat was part of the driving force that made me want to work in the ocean. I wanted to get rid of that fear. And I did that. A lot of people have done that since the sixties… [A]s a diving community, [we're not nearly as afraid] these days of sharks as we once were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you approached any in your recent dives?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, sure. I did that in Guam long before that, and that's where I learned to be afraid of them, but it's fear of the unknown. They're known now by most divers. If you keep your wits about you, they're not nearly as scary as we once thought they were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about your work now in the Man-In-The-Sea program?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:111", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.1153407480708015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I worked a while for Bob. I didn't care too much for that, but I still kept a finger on the pulse of space flight. But it was not long after that that I decided I would like to continue with the underwater work. I was fascinated with that, and it's something I hadn't done. It also was something that – that's sort of a long story, but I was afraid of the deep ocean open water. I had [a] survival exercise with my crew in Hawaii, and we were out in a life raft simulating ditching at sea. We lost our radar reflector over the side, and my gunner's mate went over for it, and he got it, but he dived into that water that was, as far as I was concerned, filled with sharks, and I wouldn't do that. I realized that I had an unreasonable fear of the ocean, and I was uncomfortable with that … [T]hat was part of the driving force that made me want to work in the ocean. I wanted to get rid of that fear. And I did that. A lot of people have done that since the sixties… [A]s a diving community, [we're not nearly as afraid] these days of sharks as we once were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you approached any in your recent dives?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, sure. I did that in Guam long before that, and that's where I learned to be afraid of them, but it's fear of the unknown. They're known now by most divers. If you keep your wits about you, they're not nearly as scary as we once thought they were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about your work now in the Man-In-The-Sea program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have a school going in Key Largo. We've got a small one-atmosphere submersible. We've got a bell and a chamber and an underwater habitat and an underwater lab... It's the only place in the world where certified divers can learn how to work in the ocean, not just play. It's a fascinating, fun place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What types of things do you learn in working in the ocean?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:113", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.794823053412001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, sure. I did that in Guam long before that, and that's where I learned to be afraid of them, but it's fear of the unknown. They're known now by most divers. If you keep your wits about you, they're not nearly as scary as we once thought they were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me a little bit about your work now in the Man-In-The-Sea program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have a school going in Key Largo. We've got a small one-atmosphere submersible. We've got a bell and a chamber and an underwater habitat and an underwater lab... It's the only place in the world where certified divers can learn how to work in the ocean, not just play. It's a fascinating, fun place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What types of things do you learn in working in the ocean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "How to work, how to work with tools, how to make surveys, how to develop a well head, for instance. Any sort of mechanical work that can be done in the water can be done in Key Largo. It's unique in all the world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that has any relation to working on the Space Station, the International Space Station we're developing today?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:115", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.549803392680001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have a school going in Key Largo. We've got a small one-atmosphere submersible. We've got a bell and a chamber and an underwater habitat and an underwater lab... It's the only place in the world where certified divers can learn how to work in the ocean, not just play. It's a fascinating, fun place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What types of things do you learn in working in the ocean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "How to work, how to work with tools, how to make surveys, how to develop a well head, for instance. Any sort of mechanical work that can be done in the water can be done in Key Largo. It's unique in all the world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that has any relation to working on the Space Station, the International Space Station we're developing today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, sure. You're in a weightless environment both places, so there's still some application of what is learned in … [one] environment … to the other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any examples of what specifically maybe Space Station can learn from that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:117", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.277559325200001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "How to work, how to work with tools, how to make surveys, how to develop a well head, for instance. Any sort of mechanical work that can be done in the water can be done in Key Largo. It's unique in all the world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think that has any relation to working on the Space Station, the International Space Station we're developing today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, sure. You're in a weightless environment both places, so there's still some application of what is learned in … [one] environment … to the other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any examples of what specifically maybe Space Station can learn from that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tool development. You know, you've got to have anti-torque tools to work with. That's a necessity for EVA people. It's a necessity for the diver, too, and there are more similarities that will be revealed with continual work in both places, I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any sort of liaison, or is there any cooperation there at all?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.086177028000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, sure. You're in a weightless environment both places, so there's still some application of what is learned in … [one] environment … to the other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any examples of what specifically maybe Space Station can learn from that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tool development. You know, you've got to have anti-torque tools to work with. That's a necessity for EVA people. It's a necessity for the diver, too, and there are more similarities that will be revealed with continual work in both places, I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any sort of liaison, or is there any cooperation there at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Any what? I didn't understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any cooperation at all between the programs?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.762418920000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tool development. You know, you've got to have anti-torque tools to work with. That's a necessity for EVA people. It's a necessity for the diver, too, and there are more similarities that will be revealed with continual work in both places, I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any sort of liaison, or is there any cooperation there at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Any what? I didn't understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any cooperation at all between the programs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. [Although Sealab is now defunct, NASA's currently active Astronaut/Aquanaut] … Mike Gurnhart … [is pursuing] that. He's currently active. I am not. I don't have that sort of an association with NASA anymore, but if there is an application that has use on the other side of the border, somebody will be there to use it. The format has been established."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now I'd like to ask you just in the overall sense what you thought the most challenging part of your career was, either in the Sealab area or in your space flight."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:123", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 7.513798800000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Any what? I didn't understand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there any cooperation at all between the programs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. [Although Sealab is now defunct, NASA's currently active Astronaut/Aquanaut] … Mike Gurnhart … [is pursuing] that. He's currently active. I am not. I don't have that sort of an association with NASA anymore, but if there is an application that has use on the other side of the border, somebody will be there to use it. The format has been established."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now I'd like to ask you just in the overall sense what you thought the most challenging part of your career was, either in the Sealab area or in your space flight."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, gosh. Most challenging. Probably the most challenging work is designing a spacecraft that will – this is the most challenging intellectual exercise. That's a product of many fine intellects. That's a challenge. There is a challenge to be found in the water which I also cherish having met, and that is the hard work. We've had enough money and enough talent and enough time to build machines and design systems and train people to outwit space. It's what we do: we outwit it. We don't have the time or the money or the talent to do the same thing in the ocean, and also, the ocean is a much tougher adversary, and the work you do in it is not glorious like space flight is. It is cold and it is dark, and it's dirty, and it's mule-hard work. And that's the physical challenge that separates the men from the boys, and I have great respect for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who in your mind – and it can be a group of people or several people, but who in your mind has stood out in your career as being the most admirable, the most accomplished?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:127", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.461480000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, gosh. Most challenging. Probably the most challenging work is designing a spacecraft that will – this is the most challenging intellectual exercise. That's a product of many fine intellects. That's a challenge. There is a challenge to be found in the water which I also cherish having met, and that is the hard work. We've had enough money and enough talent and enough time to build machines and design systems and train people to outwit space. It's what we do: we outwit it. We don't have the time or the money or the talent to do the same thing in the ocean, and also, the ocean is a much tougher adversary, and the work you do in it is not glorious like space flight is. It is cold and it is dark, and it's dirty, and it's mule-hard work. And that's the physical challenge that separates the men from the boys, and I have great respect for that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who in your mind – and it can be a group of people or several people, but who in your mind has stood out in your career as being the most admirable, the most accomplished?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I've got two heroes in my career. One is Wernher von Braun, because his blinding genius got us to the moon. And Cousteau, he's my other hero. [John F.] Kennedy, [Jr.,] of course, was important to lunar flight, too, because it was his charisma that got the nation behind the idea, but von Braun has my vote in space and Cousteau has it in the ocean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you find most admirable about those two men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those two men? Well, it was von Braun's intellect, but he had a charisma, too, that was marvelous. Cousteau, because of the work he did in an area that wasn't nearly as glorified as space was, but where von Braun had charisma, Cousteau had magic, and both have their value."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "An interesting perspective. What do you feel was your most successful time in your career?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:129", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.9572, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I've got two heroes in my career. One is Wernher von Braun, because his blinding genius got us to the moon. And Cousteau, he's my other hero. [John F.] Kennedy, [Jr.,] of course, was important to lunar flight, too, because it was his charisma that got the nation behind the idea, but von Braun has my vote in space and Cousteau has it in the ocean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you find most admirable about those two men?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those two men? Well, it was von Braun's intellect, but he had a charisma, too, that was marvelous. Cousteau, because of the work he did in an area that wasn't nearly as glorified as space was, but where von Braun had charisma, Cousteau had magic, and both have their value."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "An interesting perspective. What do you feel was your most successful time in your career?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "… I have difficulty separating or delineating or evaluating separately the pleasure … I feel [in retrospect] at having been a part of the space program and been a part of the underwater program and having raised a bunch of good kids. They're all important to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s terrific. Do you think that there's anything in the space program history that's missing? Do you think there are any stories that haven't been told or things that should be known that aren't yet known?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:131", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.508, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Those two men? Well, it was von Braun's intellect, but he had a charisma, too, that was marvelous. Cousteau, because of the work he did in an area that wasn't nearly as glorified as space was, but where von Braun had charisma, Cousteau had magic, and both have their value."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "An interesting perspective. What do you feel was your most successful time in your career?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "… I have difficulty separating or delineating or evaluating separately the pleasure … I feel [in retrospect] at having been a part of the space program and been a part of the underwater program and having raised a bunch of good kids. They're all important to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s terrific. Do you think that there's anything in the space program history that's missing? Do you think there are any stories that haven't been told or things that should be known that aren't yet known?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are at least a hundred thousand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you share some of them with us?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:133", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.12, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "… I have difficulty separating or delineating or evaluating separately the pleasure … I feel [in retrospect] at having been a part of the space program and been a part of the underwater program and having raised a bunch of good kids. They're all important to me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s terrific. Do you think that there's anything in the space program history that's missing? Do you think there are any stories that haven't been told or things that should be known that aren't yet known?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are at least a hundred thousand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you share some of them with us?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wouldn't know where to begin, but there are a lot of funny stories to tell. There are also stories of mistakes, tragedy, and despair. You know, men simply are not above error, and we've made some terrible errors, but we've made some marvelous decisions and discoveries. We've had a lot of fun doing it all, but not without some mistakes, some costly ones, but I consider myself fortunate to have been around to see it all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You're truly a pioneer in that respect."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00074:135", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 6.8, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There are at least a hundred thousand."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you share some of them with us?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wouldn't know where to begin, but there are a lot of funny stories to tell. There are also stories of mistakes, tragedy, and despair. You know, men simply are not above error, and we've made some terrible errors, but we've made some marvelous decisions and discoveries. We've had a lot of fun doing it all, but not without some mistakes, some costly ones, but I consider myself fortunate to have been around to see it all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You're truly a pioneer in that respect."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's been fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you share any stories with us?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00255:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 44.067314632341606, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was funny. It was funny, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "STS-87, I think, was your first time that you worked as a flight director?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "November of ’97?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m sure there were a couple of flights before that that I did on-the-job training. But STS-87 was the first time I was ever actually on console as a fully certified flight director."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your name listed as such?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00255:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 12, "return_to_go": 48.963682924824006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "November of ’97?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m sure there were a couple of flights before that that I did on-the-job training. But STS-87 was the first time I was ever actually on console as a fully certified flight director."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Your name listed as such?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What are some of your memories of being in that position for real that I guess ‘never’ had finally arrived?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:1", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 24.355781109202372, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I always wanted to join the Peace Corps, but one thing led to another. I finished my one degree and then my husband and I went off and got more degrees and kids and parents that fell apart. And, yeah, one thing led to another. And it really became a good opportunity after I ran for office. I was on city council and mayor for two terms. And I thought, you know what? I've done my two terms and I'm in great health. And my husband was at a place where he could do it. So we threw our hats in the ring and we decided to apply to the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And why had you wanted to do it from the beginning?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was intriguing about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I had taken Spanish all the way since I was in the sixth grade. I grew up in California, and I've always been intrigued by living and working in another country, and particularly in the Latin American culture. And I've lived a life of service. And so for me, it was another, another form of service. And I had done a lot of community development domestically in my own community, and I was eager to learn how that might be living in another, in another country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. And I understand your husband was in the Peace Corps at the same time, right? So you both went."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:3", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 27.061979010224857, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was intriguing about it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I had taken Spanish all the way since I was in the sixth grade. I grew up in California, and I've always been intrigued by living and working in another country, and particularly in the Latin American culture. And I've lived a life of service. And so for me, it was another, another form of service. And I had done a lot of community development domestically in my own community, and I was eager to learn how that might be living in another, in another country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. And I understand your husband was in the Peace Corps at the same time, right? So you both went."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly. Exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And he has a separate interview."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 30.068865566916507, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I had taken Spanish all the way since I was in the sixth grade. I grew up in California, and I've always been intrigued by living and working in another country, and particularly in the Latin American culture. And I've lived a life of service. And so for me, it was another, another form of service. And I had done a lot of community development domestically in my own community, and I was eager to learn how that might be living in another, in another country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. And I understand your husband was in the Peace Corps at the same time, right? So you both went."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly. Exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And he has a separate interview."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He certainly does."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it's just fascinating because I've done other, I've interviewed married couples and it's as if they were in different places with totally different experiences. So it's good to do them, do them separately. So tell us, tell me a little bit about your background. You grew up in California and what kind of a community?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 23.788722922119142, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He certainly does."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And it's just fascinating because I've done other, I've interviewed married couples and it's as if they were in different places with totally different experiences. So it's good to do them, do them separately. So tell us, tell me a little bit about your background. You grew up in California and what kind of a community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I grew up in Berkeley, California. My parents settled in the Bay Area, but neither one was from the Bay Area. I went through the Berkeley schools. I went to the University of California at Berkeley. I, um, decided to go on into community or public health nutrition. Left California, went off to grad school in Tennessee, and came back. And I did some work in nutrition, but ended up going more into the health care world. I got an MBA after I got my master's in nutrition at Tennessee and worked most of my career in the health care administration end of things. Kaiser Permanente. I also worked for, I was the head of the Health Services Division for the County of Marin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Did some work on my own for seven years as a consultant and then ran an agency not really in health care, but in matching caregivers with low income, disabled and elderly who were on the Medicaid program. And it was at that point, at the end of my time of that and my two terms as a council member, that I went into the Peace Corps. So really a pretty much a life of health and human services and community service."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I usually ask how parents reacted to it, but I will ask, how did your children react to you going into the Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 13.743878680619726, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Officially I heard in the third week of July and we were to stage in the third week of September. And I was the director of an agency and I had, um, my board chair kept saying, well, can we start recruiting for your job? And I said, well, I'd kind of like to know that my seat's empty before you do that. So that was a little, a little hard. But, you know, we kind of did as much as we could to get ready and, you know, our house and all that. And we left. But yeah, it was, I think probably a little longer process because we did apply quite a bit earlier. Because by the time we tried to apply for the October things, most of them were already filled, so we just applied."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had to wait for the January. Do you think you had more medical screening because you are older?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I think there was one. I think my doctor almost did too much screening like on the blood work. And so some of the blood work that came out, she did every. I'm a Kaiser member. And they are very good about what they, you know, they're, they don't slight much. And so I think it was just this whole process of communicating with Washington and trying to put it ways that the Washington staff could understand what. Anyway, it was, it was really an act of diplomacy not to get kind of fried, you know, with the whole process."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which was probably part of the test."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which was part of the, part of the process. But yeah, and it ended up being all, all fine. And you know, the only issue I had in Guatemala was I had a basal cell on my lower eyelid that was discovered by an excellent ophthalmologist and I ended up coming home for four weeks halfway through my service to have it removed because there wasn't, the procedure wasn't available in Guatemala. But that was very quick and came home and right back. So I really didn't have any medical issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. Excellent. Where was your staging?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 14.737830837612794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we staged in Houston. We met up in Houston and very brief. Came in one day, had a brief orientation from our country officer from D.C. And then we took off at 3:00 in the morning, we all got up and we got on a plane and went to Guatemala. So all of our training."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Direct flight?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And all of our training was in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In country."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In country, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let me, I forgot to ask. Did you ask for Guatemala?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.491149182238017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In country, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let me, I forgot to ask. Did you ask for Guatemala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So in our period of time to apply, we were allowed to put down three, if we chose, three different countries. So we put Peru and Guatemala, which we had both visited, and the third Paraguay, because my husband's a biologist and there were some jobs there that would have been up his alley. But quite frankly, I was really aiming for the first two because of potential of being in a cooler climate and also because of the strong indigenous culture. And I am, um, I'm not a weaver, but I am a textile-phile. I love textiles so I was really hoping. So and we'd been to Guatemala. I had a staff person who was from Guatemala. And so we'd been, we had a love for the country. So it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sounds perfect."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And they told us right away in January, you know, this is what we're thinking. And I also think because Guatemala had some security issues, I think the fact that we were older volunteers, um, that would probably be more likely to follow the rules and not do sort of challenging things may have also been why. So I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We can talk about the rules in a, in a, I guess is it a conflict area? That's not conflict but."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.890307632392613, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And they told us right away in January, you know, this is what we're thinking. And I also think because Guatemala had some security issues, I think the fact that we were older volunteers, um, that would probably be more likely to follow the rules and not do sort of challenging things may have also been why. So I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We can talk about the rules in a, in a, I guess is it a conflict area? That's not conflict but."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Insecurity."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Security, I think security issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Security issues in Guatemala."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 19.878119591547346, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Insecurity."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Security, I think security issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Security issues in Guatemala."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you got to Guatemala and where was the training?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.420132879497054, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Security, I think security issues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Security issues in Guatemala."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you got to Guatemala and where was the training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So the offices for the Peace Corps in Guatemala are in, um, Santa Lucía Milpas Altas, which is outside of Antigua. Antigua, Guatemala. And they have a wonderful offices there and facilities. So most of our training was ten weeks. And most of our training, um, the basic kind of training was in the offices which were really lovely and great setting. There were two programs. I was in Healthy Schools and the other program was Youth and Development, which is a Peace Corps program. So for our actual program training, we did that in our communities. And so my husband and I lived in different communities because we were in the two different programs and that's where we had our program training, and that was also where we had our language. So language and culture was about three days a week. We stayed in community. We were divided up by our level of Spanish. And then we had a Guatemalan Peace Corps staff person who worked with us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the initial ten week training, what was, what was included in that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 17.133480977218948, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you got to Guatemala and where was the training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So the offices for the Peace Corps in Guatemala are in, um, Santa Lucía Milpas Altas, which is outside of Antigua. Antigua, Guatemala. And they have a wonderful offices there and facilities. So most of our training was ten weeks. And most of our training, um, the basic kind of training was in the offices which were really lovely and great setting. There were two programs. I was in Healthy Schools and the other program was Youth and Development, which is a Peace Corps program. So for our actual program training, we did that in our communities. And so my husband and I lived in different communities because we were in the two different programs and that's where we had our program training, and that was also where we had our language. So language and culture was about three days a week. We stayed in community. We were divided up by our level of Spanish. And then we had a Guatemalan Peace Corps staff person who worked with us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the initial ten week training, what was, what was included in that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, there were basic things that are required by Peace Corps. Everything from safety, security, medical, health, some development training around sustainable development. And the philosophy behind that. A lot around avoiding sexual abuse, a lot of very basic kinds of training that everybody had to have. And then the rest of it, when we were in our communities and then in our case, working with the schools in our community, that was more specific to the actual program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had ten weeks and then you had basically two months, I guess a month and a half or something like that, afterwards in the communities in training?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:43", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.683309848418453, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, there were basic things that are required by Peace Corps. Everything from safety, security, medical, health, some development training around sustainable development. And the philosophy behind that. A lot around avoiding sexual abuse, a lot of very basic kinds of training that everybody had to have. And then the rest of it, when we were in our communities and then in our case, working with the schools in our community, that was more specific to the actual program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had ten weeks and then you had basically two months, I guess a month and a half or something like that, afterwards in the communities in training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, no. So actually what the way, the way they arrange it is they do the basic training in the offices of Peace Corps. But then our communities where we were living, we were living with families. That is where we would have like we would rotate houses. So maybe there were three of us in our language group. So we would go to my house one day and my host mom would host us and so we would be in the homes. So those were our classrooms where really for the language. And then the program training, some of it happened in the office, but we were like in the case of YAD, they were working in middle schools in my husband's, in the communities where my husband's team was. So it was ten weeks inclusive of the Peace Corps required training and the program training and the language training. So and so you, there were days where I'd get to see my husband because we would be coming into the offices, and there days where we would be in our respective."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were in the community training, it wasn't that far from the Peace Corps offices."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you could come in."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:45", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 20.759233164909393, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, no. So actually what the way, the way they arrange it is they do the basic training in the offices of Peace Corps. But then our communities where we were living, we were living with families. That is where we would have like we would rotate houses. So maybe there were three of us in our language group. So we would go to my house one day and my host mom would host us and so we would be in the homes. So those were our classrooms where really for the language. And then the program training, some of it happened in the office, but we were like in the case of YAD, they were working in middle schools in my husband's, in the communities where my husband's team was. So it was ten weeks inclusive of the Peace Corps required training and the program training and the language training. So and so you, there were days where I'd get to see my husband because we would be coming into the offices, and there days where we would be in our respective."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you were in the community training, it wasn't that far from the Peace Corps offices."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you could come in."}, {"role": "user", "content": "By bus. By bus, yes. Right. Yeah. So we were all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What town were you in?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 18.62137018323266, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you could come in."}, {"role": "user", "content": "By bus. By bus, yes. Right. Yeah. So we were all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What town were you in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I was in a town called Pastores, but an area called Barrio La Cruz. And I lived up on top of a hill in a very kind of tight. It seemed like a barrio, but it was kind of a tight little community with a great view of Volcan Agua, which is one of the beautiful volcanoes right near the city of Antigua, Guatemala. And I lived with a woman and her three children, and her husband was in the States working, and her youngest daughter had never met her dad. And I really enjoyed being with this family. They, you know, made me feel warm, clearly, you know, I was immersed in Spanish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was your Spanish good enough for communication at that point? Oh, you had studied Spanish."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 19.579300203591842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "By bus. By bus, yes. Right. Yeah. So we were all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What town were you in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I was in a town called Pastores, but an area called Barrio La Cruz. And I lived up on top of a hill in a very kind of tight. It seemed like a barrio, but it was kind of a tight little community with a great view of Volcan Agua, which is one of the beautiful volcanoes right near the city of Antigua, Guatemala. And I lived with a woman and her three children, and her husband was in the States working, and her youngest daughter had never met her dad. And I really enjoyed being with this family. They, you know, made me feel warm, clearly, you know, I was immersed in Spanish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was your Spanish good enough for communication at that point? Oh, you had studied Spanish."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, because I had come with Spanish. But the woman I was living with was from Guatemala City and talked pretty fast and giggled a lot. And so sometimes I didn't always understand her, but I know now that I picked up a lot of things from her, you know, I mean, just the way, the way she said things and, um, but yeah. And then of course, with the kids and, you know, and meeting the relatives and going to some of the events like the weddings and the, you know, the birthday parties."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you the first volunteer to live with her?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 19.357160745175115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, because I had come with Spanish. But the woman I was living with was from Guatemala City and talked pretty fast and giggled a lot. And so sometimes I didn't always understand her, but I know now that I picked up a lot of things from her, you know, I mean, just the way, the way she said things and, um, but yeah. And then of course, with the kids and, you know, and meeting the relatives and going to some of the events like the weddings and the, you know, the birthday parties."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you the first volunteer to live with her?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. She had had a 22 year old young man who was before me, who was a really nice guy. I ended up meeting him. And so, I mean, I was obviously kind of at the whole other end of the spectrum, right? You know, and she was in her fifties. And here I come along, you know, a woman in her sixties, but we got along so great and the kids would laugh because after dinner, we'd be sitting there talking and laughing. And her son, one of the quiet ones, would walk by just kind of shaking his head at the two of us, you know? But I think that she enjoyed, you know, having a companion and I enjoyed it as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you got to meet the other host families as well, I guess, since you switched off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, exactly. So each, so you got a feel for the other families and what they were like. And but we were all, but they were all in that Barrio La Cruz, which was a little less ritzy than the Pastores, the people that were down below in the main town, I think was a little, you know. And not to say that our homes weren't OK, they were, but it wasn't quite, it was pretty basic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of home was it?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.396845272416794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. She had had a 22 year old young man who was before me, who was a really nice guy. I ended up meeting him. And so, I mean, I was obviously kind of at the whole other end of the spectrum, right? You know, and she was in her fifties. And here I come along, you know, a woman in her sixties, but we got along so great and the kids would laugh because after dinner, we'd be sitting there talking and laughing. And her son, one of the quiet ones, would walk by just kind of shaking his head at the two of us, you know? But I think that she enjoyed, you know, having a companion and I enjoyed it as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then you got to meet the other host families as well, I guess, since you switched off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, exactly. So each, so you got a feel for the other families and what they were like. And but we were all, but they were all in that Barrio La Cruz, which was a little less ritzy than the Pastores, the people that were down below in the main town, I think was a little, you know. And not to say that our homes weren't OK, they were, but it wasn't quite, it was pretty basic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of home was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, I think that my, that my host mom and her kids were probably living in maybe one or two rooms and were giving up one of their bedrooms for me. So I had the bedroom upstairs and then we all shared a bathroom and a shower. And it was very tight, you know, just like a little courtyard where Annabella would dry the clothes. And if we had rain, she would be up at 3:00 in the morning pulling all the clothes down. Very, very modest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Indoor plumbing and?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 22.663161413796438, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, exactly. So each, so you got a feel for the other families and what they were like. And but we were all, but they were all in that Barrio La Cruz, which was a little less ritzy than the Pastores, the people that were down below in the main town, I think was a little, you know. And not to say that our homes weren't OK, they were, but it wasn't quite, it was pretty basic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of home was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, I think that my, that my host mom and her kids were probably living in maybe one or two rooms and were giving up one of their bedrooms for me. So I had the bedroom upstairs and then we all shared a bathroom and a shower. And it was very tight, you know, just like a little courtyard where Annabella would dry the clothes. And if we had rain, she would be up at 3:00 in the morning pulling all the clothes down. Very, very modest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Indoor plumbing and?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah. No, no. We had, I mean, the bathroom was outside, but it was enclosed and, um, wash the dishes in a, you know, in what we call a pila, which is a several basin sink. She had a washer, so that was really nice. So she washed my clothes which was lovely and dried it on the, yeah, on the lines. And I ate my meals, we ate our meals together. Yeah. So it was, you know, other people had, um, everybody had a different situation, you know, some people had their own bathrooms, some people. But it all worked out. I just had to plan around, the boys especially would take long showers and I'd just have to figure out when I could get my shower in and plan it. You know, when no one was around, I'd pop in the shower."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that worked out."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 25.18129045977382, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, I think that my, that my host mom and her kids were probably living in maybe one or two rooms and were giving up one of their bedrooms for me. So I had the bedroom upstairs and then we all shared a bathroom and a shower. And it was very tight, you know, just like a little courtyard where Annabella would dry the clothes. And if we had rain, she would be up at 3:00 in the morning pulling all the clothes down. Very, very modest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Indoor plumbing and?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah. No, no. We had, I mean, the bathroom was outside, but it was enclosed and, um, wash the dishes in a, you know, in what we call a pila, which is a several basin sink. She had a washer, so that was really nice. So she washed my clothes which was lovely and dried it on the, yeah, on the lines. And I ate my meals, we ate our meals together. Yeah. So it was, you know, other people had, um, everybody had a different situation, you know, some people had their own bathrooms, some people. But it all worked out. I just had to plan around, the boys especially would take long showers and I'd just have to figure out when I could get my shower in and plan it. You know, when no one was around, I'd pop in the shower."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that worked out."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you have any thoughts about the training? Was it, did it prepare you for your work? The language training, your technical training, the general orientation?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 28.076955433278187, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not at all. We had a really special group of people. There were 20, 28 of us. Six or seven of us were over 50."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which is very unusual and it was very diverse. We had five or six African Americans. We had maybe four people who were probably, well, three who were, had been born in the States, but they were of Latin American descent. We had only one, one Asian young woman. A little bit diverse in age. We had a few 21 year olds, a few 30. So it was a really nice mix. And no, we all, I think we were very well, you know, the older, you know, the older volunteers, we were really accepted. We were included. It was a very, very inclusive. And to this day, I'm close to a couple of the volunteers and they're, they tend to be actually the younger ones that I'm closer to so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So after the training, where were you placed?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 23.418839370309094, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Which is very unusual and it was very diverse. We had five or six African Americans. We had maybe four people who were probably, well, three who were, had been born in the States, but they were of Latin American descent. We had only one, one Asian young woman. A little bit diverse in age. We had a few 21 year olds, a few 30. So it was a really nice mix. And no, we all, I think we were very well, you know, the older, you know, the older volunteers, we were really accepted. We were included. It was a very, very inclusive. And to this day, I'm close to a couple of the volunteers and they're, they tend to be actually the younger ones that I'm closer to so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So after the training, where were you placed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I think they knew where they were going to send us before we came because they needed a community that needed both programs. So we were sent to a community that was at 10,000 feet. It was at the highest point in the Inter-American Highway in Central America. It was in the western highlands of Guatemala, in a indigenous community of about 4,000. That was the seat of a municipality that had over 100 communities spread out in very remote areas. And luckily we were near the Inter-American Highway, so we were able to take the bus down to the second largest city in the country, called Quetzaltenango, or its Mayan name, Xela. So that was good because it was easier for us to be able to get to a larger city, to do commerce, and also to take the bus or the Peace Corps shuttle to go for medical appointments. And where some of our colleagues were, it was more of a twisty-turny road or perhaps a road that might wash out. So I think we were very lucky."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is the Inter-American Highway a highway?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 21.576488189232325, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So after the training, where were you placed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I think they knew where they were going to send us before we came because they needed a community that needed both programs. So we were sent to a community that was at 10,000 feet. It was at the highest point in the Inter-American Highway in Central America. It was in the western highlands of Guatemala, in a indigenous community of about 4,000. That was the seat of a municipality that had over 100 communities spread out in very remote areas. And luckily we were near the Inter-American Highway, so we were able to take the bus down to the second largest city in the country, called Quetzaltenango, or its Mayan name, Xela. So that was good because it was easier for us to be able to get to a larger city, to do commerce, and also to take the bus or the Peace Corps shuttle to go for medical appointments. And where some of our colleagues were, it was more of a twisty-turny road or perhaps a road that might wash out. So I think we were very lucky."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is the Inter-American Highway a highway?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it's the Pan-American Highway. Now they call it the Inter-American, but it's the Pan-American Highway that goes all the way through North America, all the way into southern, into South America."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is a highway."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 13, "return_to_go": 25.52652862868188, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it's the Pan-American Highway. Now they call it the Inter-American, but it's the Pan-American Highway that goes all the way through North America, all the way into southern, into South America."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it is a highway."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it's a four lane."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Four lane highway. You know, it's commerce. I mean, it's trucks and, yeah, it's a major, it's a major highway. And in actually a pretty good condition, you know, at least the part that we were on. When we were there in 20, um, 2011, it had been after a big storm and they'd had some issues. But in our time there, you know, the road was in pretty good condition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So the town you were in, what kind of facilities were in the town? How many people lived in the town?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.524506368971016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You put them up and you take them down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because of the rain?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because, no, because it was just cold, you know? I mean, not necessarily because the rain. The rain, the rain in Guatemala where we were was half the year was rainy, half the year was not. But just things wouldn't dry. And we had no heat. And there were times when the inside of our."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You say cold, how cold is cold?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, our first winter, it was, there was frost. It was down in the thirties, we had pictures that we posted on Facebook of the two of us wearing three or four jackets or hiking boots because we had no heat in our rooms. And so it was, um, we finally got a thermometer when our son visited. We got thermometers for in and out, so we'd kind of know what it was. But, you know, I mean, I remember times when it was in the forties inside, so it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was chilly."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:87", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 16.82037823329755, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, our first winter, it was, there was frost. It was down in the thirties, we had pictures that we posted on Facebook of the two of us wearing three or four jackets or hiking boots because we had no heat in our rooms. And so it was, um, we finally got a thermometer when our son visited. We got thermometers for in and out, so we'd kind of know what it was. But, you know, I mean, I remember times when it was in the forties inside, so it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was chilly."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was cold, yeah. And we didn't have a burning, like our host family when they built their little kitchen area out, they put in a really nice fireplace, which they cook on and they sit around. And we didn't have any internal source of heat. So, you know, we just kind of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Had blankets."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. And at night I could hardly roll over. I had so many blankets on me. I'd have to think about whether I wanted to turn from one side to the other. And I had on sweatshirt, nightie, you know, sweatpants. You know, sometimes I had on another sweatshirt over my sweatshirt with a hood. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great. So what is the Healthy Schools project? What is that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:97", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 11.347149373058897, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, and keeping a project going is always a, it's a lift. You need to have someone who's either a teacher or a parent or a community volunteer. So but there was a little bit of, I don't want to say competition, but we did at the end of this last year do a tour. And we, you know, all of the different authorities like the health people and the food security. We all went out into the campo and visited all the gardens and the ones that had really thriving gardens, I mean, clearly had to feel really good about it. And the ones that didn't, either they will decide, you know, maybe gardening is not for us or maybe they'll step it up next year and go out and pick the caterpillars off of their broccoli so that we're not visiting what looks like a lace factory. Which one of our, one of our gardens, the broccoli leaves looked like lace, you know, because of the."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And this is a farming community."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You would think that they would know about doing that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yes. But in this particular case, I think the person who was in charge of that school has other strengths and is more into arts and preserving his culture and his music. And so and, you know, and that's I think it's OK, you know what I mean? I think you, I think in any kind of development work, whether it's international or in your own backyard, you work with people that are motivated. And if people are really interested, then you can help them get where they want to go. I mean, you're kind of a travel agent. It's like, well, where do you want to go? And then working together, shoulder to shoulder, we can get you there, but there's no reason to do a heavy lift. I mean, people have to be ready. And that's, there's no shame in that. Sometimes it's timing too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was your role? Was it introducing the idea or, and or did you help manage it, or how did, what do you think your role was in all of this?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:111", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.990989640658126, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, we were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were there during the election."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When Trump was elected. So well, we were in training, and then we went out in community. And we did have people that would say things. And then but, you know, the Guatemalan government is under challenging leadership right now as well. So you kind of say, OK, yes, we have challenges in our country and you have challenges in yours. So together, what might we do right here? And to really bring that focus more to what we can do together rather than being, um. Yeah, so I really didn't, really didn't get a lot of flak about, you know, your president or anything like that. We did hear a lot about people wanting to immigrate, people wanting to leave. Would you take us back in your suitcase? You know, there's, there's a lot of, um, there's a lot of challenges, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there are lots of people from that community who had come to the States?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. There were a lot of people in the community who had been and come back. And often I didn't ask a lot of questions because I didn't want to put them on the spot. And then there were a couple of cases where there were young people. We may not have known the young people that well, but we knew their parents or their uncles. And them being concerned, you know, that their kids had gone and did they get there safely? And, you know, and that was, that was always a bit of pins and needles about, you know, or hearing that so-and-so wants to go and, you know, you're just worried. I mean, you're worried about their safety and about whether they're going to get there OK but um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the parents want them to leave?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.85610370470679, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So mostly, well, corn, but a lot of the corn, a lot of that was used in their own homes. And beans. But then they grew to sell some of it even within Central America, because we lived in a cold place. So broccoli and carrots and cabbage and things like that. And then in a community higher than us at 11,000 feet, they were growing potatoes. So a lot of, a lot of potatoes. And then there were these, um, these are the sugar snap peas. And there was in two of the communities, they had a very active co-op. And those communities, I think, are doing quite well because they had this co-op and they had, you know, already arrangements on how to sell their produce. And the trucks would come in and cold."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they were near the road anyway."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm, well, they were, yeah. I mean, dirt roads but yes. And so they had, and they had, you know, many years of experience at that and then they would make a little bit of money on that that they could use, for instance, to help fund a computer lab. So and there were maybe out of my all the communities I worked with, maybe two or three had those ag co-ops, which were really good because they, you know, they would generate some income to be able to use to reinvest in the community. But there were some communities, like the one with the potatoes was a fairly, um, fairly poor, poor community. And a lot of those people would get on the bus that would, and they were a ways from the highway. And they would go down to a town near Quetzaltenango and work in textiles or in selling textiles. So people had to, you know, had to leave the area to get work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you mentioned you had, you came back to the United States because of your eye. How did, how was this diagnosed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like pretty good health care."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.395670783007544, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm, well, they were, yeah. I mean, dirt roads but yes. And so they had, and they had, you know, many years of experience at that and then they would make a little bit of money on that that they could use, for instance, to help fund a computer lab. So and there were maybe out of my all the communities I worked with, maybe two or three had those ag co-ops, which were really good because they, you know, they would generate some income to be able to use to reinvest in the community. But there were some communities, like the one with the potatoes was a fairly, um, fairly poor, poor community. And a lot of those people would get on the bus that would, and they were a ways from the highway. And they would go down to a town near Quetzaltenango and work in textiles or in selling textiles. So people had to, you know, had to leave the area to get work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you mentioned you had, you came back to the United States because of your eye. How did, how was this diagnosed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like pretty good health care."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. So I had a dry eye issue when I left the States and then I had, it was irritated more in Guatemala because there's a lot of diesel and a lot of smoke. And then maybe also living at altitude, you know, it's dry. So I was seeing an ophthalmologist that does a lot of work with the Peace Corps and our country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the bigger town?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:123", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 17.106300870008383, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like pretty good health care."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. So I had a dry eye issue when I left the States and then I had, it was irritated more in Guatemala because there's a lot of diesel and a lot of smoke. And then maybe also living at altitude, you know, it's dry. So I was seeing an ophthalmologist that does a lot of work with the Peace Corps and our country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In the bigger town?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually in Guatemala City."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, in Guatemala City."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:127", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 18.773210950627632, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually in Guatemala City."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, in Guatemala City."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And so our medical director, I was going to one ophthalmologist and that person was giving me like some steroids. And we kind of thought, well, you know, steroids are OK for a short term. But so she says, you know what, let's try this other, let's do another try here. So the physician that I went to see was very, very methodical. And he saw some other things around my eye. But the thing that he worried about most was this little growth. And I didn't really think a lot of it because several years ago in the States I had had one and I had it biopsied and it was just a growth. But he was so, he had to get approval from Washington. And, you know, our doctor got approval and it was biopsied. And sure enough. So I didn't want to leave. I wanted to have the procedure done in Guatemala. But the procedure that is used for basal cells in our country is called Mohs surgery."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And they don't, they don't have that surgery in Guatemala. And so our medical director said, now I know you want to stay, but you need to go home. And so I was able to, I'm a Kaiser member. And even though I wasn't a member, of course, during Peace Corps, I was able to get Kaiser to do it where I'd had another Mohs surgery. And so it all worked out super well. I mean, I got home, I got it done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Peace Corps did well on the medical issue."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:135", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.334569350141184, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, you can probably tell I'm pretty extroverted and my husband isn't super extroverted, but he kind of is. And so we each, you know, like he had his favorite banana ladies and he worked at a middle school, two middle schools. He worked in the afternoon. So he would be gone all afternoon. I would be gone in the morning, sometimes getting up very early to go on the backs of trucks or whatever to go to my communities. So we really did have some of our own relationships. So, you know, but I think what was good was that we had each other. We had, you know, and when we had health issues or when we had disappointments, I mean, it was nice to be able to have that emotional support. It probably wasn't as good for our Spanish because we were speaking English to each other, whereas our other colleagues, we noticed their Spanish. Some people just really advanced because they were not able to speak English, you know.\n\nBut I think for us it was probably a big help even coming back this last six months, I think we may not have. Because we're also coming back to a house. Some of our colleagues, they may not be living. You know, I mean, it's a little harder, but I think having each other was really, I think it was a good thing. And, you know, we'd been married 40 something years, so we weren't a newly married couple. And so I think it was a good experience and I think the community enjoyed that too I think, you know, the couple. And yeah, I think, I think it was a good thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you interact with other couples?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, there weren't any other couples."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I didn't mean Peace Corps couples."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just couples, as couples or it was always as individuals."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:137", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.26063261126798, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, there weren't any other couples."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I didn't mean Peace Corps couples."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just couples, as couples or it was always as individuals."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we really didn't. Our community was an indigenous community. We didn't really, you know, we weren't real close with our host family. They were not really, I don't think that, I mean, it was more of a relationship of us living there. It wasn't really more than that. But no, we never really, um. I mean, toward the end, one of the, one of the host families for the newer volunteer, we did some things with them. We went to, but no, not, not a whole lot with other couples. And there was only really when we left, I think there was one other younger couple. But no, I mean, we really didn't do a lot of those couples."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are a very recent return. You came back December 2018."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:139", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 21.400702901408867, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just couples, as couples or it was always as individuals."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we really didn't. Our community was an indigenous community. We didn't really, you know, we weren't real close with our host family. They were not really, I don't think that, I mean, it was more of a relationship of us living there. It wasn't really more than that. But no, we never really, um. I mean, toward the end, one of the, one of the host families for the newer volunteer, we did some things with them. We went to, but no, not, not a whole lot with other couples. And there was only really when we left, I think there was one other younger couple. But no, I mean, we really didn't do a lot of those couples."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are a very recent return. You came back December 2018."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So really, it is six months just like that. What was your reaction coming back, was it hard? You said you went back to your house and all of that, but was there a reentry process?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:149", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 17.17997409170158, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I think that helped too, because people could tell. They'd come up to us. And I'd always wear a huipil when I gave the talk, you know, which is the blouse from Guatemala. And, you know, people are kind of, well, I could see that you really. So I think that was a way of kind of dealing with some of that adjustment, trying to stay, you know, a little bit connected."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are you going to continue doing these, these talks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, yes. You know, we have had a request from two other Rotary groups. Um, another library. Yeah. I think we'll continue to do the talks. Yes, definitely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what are people's reaction to that, to the variations that you've talked about? Is there interest or just polite interest or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I think they're, I think they're fascinated. I think, um, I think a lot of people had have no idea, partly because they want to know how you lived. And then you say, well, how we lived is very much how, I mean, it was probably better than how a lot of people live. And I think, I think it just, people were really fascinated to see this whole other world and the beauty of it, the culture. I mean, we're living in, people still wear their native clothing, you know. And sometimes you get returned Peace Corps volunteers that come and many of them served a long time ago. Or some of them, like we got a woman that came who now I'm friends with, who was also older and served later and just served a few years ago. So it's been good. It's kind of brought different people kind of out of the woodwork, you know, by doing these and creating new, new relationships.\n\nAnd I think I've sparked a lot of interest. And, you know, I was really active in Guatemala because a lot of our older volunteers left. And so I was a little bit of an activist about it and we ended up doing a survey. They didn't end up doing it till after I left."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They left before the end of the project?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:163", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.58918444109, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but we're, you know, but I don't even, I mean, it is mentoring, but I feel like it's more we're friends. We're colleagues. She trusts me. I trust her. You know, I mean, we could talk about, gee, how is it coming back? You know, you could talk about, did you hear this person ask me how my trip was, you know, that trip. So I think it creates, you know, those kind of bonds. And I think. You know, I've really enjoyed being around, you know, diversity of ages and backgrounds. I mean, everybody that comes into Peace Corps, whether you're 60 or 25, you all come with a different life experience and you've never been a volunteer before."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So you're all trying to figure out, here I am, what do I do? That's an equalizer. You know, when you get in there, an older person might have a little more, maybe a little more life experience. But even then, I mean, we had some volunteers, older volunteers, and they weren't chill. I mean, you know, I mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did they leave? Not to ask a personal question, but were there any systemic issues in why they left?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or was it all?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:165", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 11.7657604901, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So you're all trying to figure out, here I am, what do I do? That's an equalizer. You know, when you get in there, an older person might have a little more, maybe a little more life experience. But even then, I mean, we had some volunteers, older volunteers, and they weren't chill. I mean, you know, I mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did they leave? Not to ask a personal question, but were there any systemic issues in why they left?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or was it all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know, because we had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Kind of things."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00111:177", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 10.706100000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. But he, you know, I mean, that was his vision, right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And so, yeah, but I think, you know, just like anything, any kind of marketing, you know, you pitch, your pitch is a little different depending on who your audience is. And I think you have to think about what those, what those issues are for older people. Like, for me, I don't have grandchildren, so I don't have that tugging away at me. But I mean, Jody sounded like she had a thing yesterday about, well, they'll be there with you virtually or, you know. And I served with two women or three, actually, that had grandchildren. And one of them had to go back for medical reasons. But the other two did not and their grandchildren visited them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, my children visited us, you know, I mean, so anyway. But it is something, it is a passion of mine that I want to continue."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let me just ask about that. When your children visited, you said your son, who's in the military, really had a good time. What was your children's reaction? And did they meet your, the people in the village or the town you were in?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 24.090691762520088, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother's first comment was, what will I tell my bridge group? My father said, well, Libby, I think we can work our way through this. I had one friend who was so happy she was just absolutely thrilled. She came from limited circumstances. She wasn't going to be able to go to college. She actually had a job as a nanny when she graduated. And she had been interviewed by, I think, the FBI. So she knew more about this than I did. And she was so excited when I when I found out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She was interviewed about you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You, about me. And even though even though I had been away at college for four years and she was she was working she didn't work in Vandergrift or my hometown. She worked in another community. And she, she was so excited. I mean, when I got home, this was going home for the weekend that after this interview, I called her and she was just so excited because she knew about it and I didn't. And she kind of had put one over on me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's kind of strange that they didn't communicate with you at all between the letter you sent in and."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. I mean, obviously, I made her early days. It was so early. I mean, they really and when I hear about forms and interviews in reference to I think I just wrote a letter and I probably sent my resume and I did have a strong resume for a college senior. I mean, I had been editor of my college newspaper. I've been involved in some different community committees and service projects. So I wasn't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you showed some leadership?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:7", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 24.545213069466765, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You, about me. And even though even though I had been away at college for four years and she was she was working she didn't work in Vandergrift or my hometown. She worked in another community. And she, she was so excited. I mean, when I got home, this was going home for the weekend that after this interview, I called her and she was just so excited because she knew about it and I didn't. And she kind of had put one over on me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's kind of strange that they didn't communicate with you at all between the letter you sent in and."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. I mean, obviously, I made her early days. It was so early. I mean, they really and when I hear about forms and interviews in reference to I think I just wrote a letter and I probably sent my resume and I did have a strong resume for a college senior. I mean, I had been editor of my college newspaper. I've been involved in some different community committees and service projects. So I wasn't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you showed some leadership?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I showed some leadership, I guess, when the Face book was published. And that's what they used to call the book that went to the country with your picture. They said, I had a background in cooking and sewing and food preservation. I I spent summers on my grandmother's farm and I knew more about food preservation than most people know today. I still don't eat pickles, you know, and I had my mother every turn would say, please take something practical. So I take another sewing course. So I had domestic skills, if you will, and they must have shown up somewhere. I have no idea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great story. Yeah. OK, so they sent you a letter and they said."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 27.272458966074183, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. I mean, obviously, I made her early days. It was so early. I mean, they really and when I hear about forms and interviews in reference to I think I just wrote a letter and I probably sent my resume and I did have a strong resume for a college senior. I mean, I had been editor of my college newspaper. I've been involved in some different community committees and service projects. So I wasn't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you showed some leadership?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I showed some leadership, I guess, when the Face book was published. And that's what they used to call the book that went to the country with your picture. They said, I had a background in cooking and sewing and food preservation. I I spent summers on my grandmother's farm and I knew more about food preservation than most people know today. I still don't eat pickles, you know, and I had my mother every turn would say, please take something practical. So I take another sewing course. So I had domestic skills, if you will, and they must have shown up somewhere. I have no idea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great story. Yeah. OK, so they sent you a letter and they said."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They said you've been invited for Peace Corps training and that's training. Yes, that's."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did they say Columbia?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 24.747176628971314, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I showed some leadership, I guess, when the Face book was published. And that's what they used to call the book that went to the country with your picture. They said, I had a background in cooking and sewing and food preservation. I I spent summers on my grandmother's farm and I knew more about food preservation than most people know today. I still don't eat pickles, you know, and I had my mother every turn would say, please take something practical. So I take another sewing course. So I had domestic skills, if you will, and they must have shown up somewhere. I have no idea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great story. Yeah. OK, so they sent you a letter and they said."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They said you've been invited for Peace Corps training and that's training. Yes, that's."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did they say Columbia?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they said Columbia. They said Urban Community Action. I mean the whole thing was laid out. Training would begin in July, graduation was in June. And I had like six weeks and I was going to New Mexico to Albuquerque, New Mexico."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's where the training"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 27.496862921079238, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They said you've been invited for Peace Corps training and that's training. Yes, that's."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did they say Columbia?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they said Columbia. They said Urban Community Action. I mean the whole thing was laid out. Training would begin in July, graduation was in June. And I had like six weeks and I was going to New Mexico to Albuquerque, New Mexico."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's where the training"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's where the training was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it at university?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 23.885403245643598, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they said Columbia. They said Urban Community Action. I mean the whole thing was laid out. Training would begin in July, graduation was in June. And I had like six weeks and I was going to New Mexico to Albuquerque, New Mexico."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's where the training"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's where the training was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it at university?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was one of the first groups that went through the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque with a man named Marshall. Mason was head of it. It was quite interesting. Nobody had been to Columbia. That was just sort of you know, you had we had several Cuban people that had a Cuban background, bright people, but nobody knew anything about Columbia. You know, we have one professor that told us about real husband here who had been the ousted dictator and he had been educated in the states tri state college in Angola, Indiana. My brother was enrolled there. It's OK. My brother's going to be an engineer. So school, they"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do have language training?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 24.317114717381774, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's where the training was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it at university?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was one of the first groups that went through the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque with a man named Marshall. Mason was head of it. It was quite interesting. Nobody had been to Columbia. That was just sort of you know, you had we had several Cuban people that had a Cuban background, bright people, but nobody knew anything about Columbia. You know, we have one professor that told us about real husband here who had been the ousted dictator and he had been educated in the states tri state college in Angola, Indiana. My brother was enrolled there. It's OK. My brother's going to be an engineer. So school, they"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do have language training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had intensive language training by Cuban. By Cubans. Yeah. And we spent a lot of time in the labs and it was, was very intensive language training. There were probably there were probably local people because New Mexico in Albuquerque has a large Spanish population and all of the meals every you didn't you were absorbed in the language. You know, I had had two years of Spanish in school. I did very well in it. I had never been to the language lab because it interfered with publishing the school newspaper. The lab was set up at the same time. But, you know, so I was not in it looked like I had a real strong background in Spanish. Truth was I didn't at that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what else will you train did during training?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 25.12635763701204, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had I think we had courses in like the social mores or the customs of what they thought would go on in Colombia, some, some exposure to what they thought Colombian people were like. I remember going out to an Indian reservation for like hands on work experiences, but I don't remember much about that, except I had never been on an Indian reservation and this just looked like a big desert to me. But again, I had never been out of Western, has never been to the western part of the country. We totally, you know, totally this was a foreign land to me. And I remember the flight because I'd never been on an airplane, you know, and you got all dressed up and you flew and it was out from Pittsburgh to Chicago to someplace, Kansas maybe. And then the last stop was Albuquerque and Chicago. Fewer people get one in Kansas.\n\nThere's very few people from Kansas going to Albuquerque. So I stood up. There was a girl down. She also was standing up, we were looking around to see who else was going to Albuquerque and what were the circumstances, and we both were going into Peace Corps training in the same group. In the same group, right. Yeah. And we, you know, imagine the audacity of standing up in an airplane looking to see who else is flying and connecting with another person."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how many people were in training with you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were more than a hundred people. It was a large group. It was two thirds women and one third men. The idea being that they didn't think they weren't sure that women could serve one in the Peace Corps. And if they could serve in Colombia,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm not sure. I think it might have been the machismo of the culture, because I knew that at that time there were there were nurses, there were nursing groups that had been women. And I think there had been women teachers may be sent elsewhere, but they were,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like you said, two thirds were women."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 27.918175152235598, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were more than a hundred people. It was a large group. It was two thirds women and one third men. The idea being that they didn't think they weren't sure that women could serve one in the Peace Corps. And if they could serve in Colombia,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm not sure. I think it might have been the machismo of the culture, because I knew that at that time there were there were nurses, there were nursing groups that had been women. And I think there had been women teachers may be sent elsewhere, but they were,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like you said, two thirds were women."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women. Yes. Because when they paired us up for teams in urban development, there were two women and a guy on each team. And if you were a married couple with the married couple were in the site, but it was they didn't let two women serve together in the sight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was they had to have a man."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 29.909083502484, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm not sure. I think it might have been the machismo of the culture, because I knew that at that time there were there were nurses, there were nursing groups that had been women. And I think there had been women teachers may be sent elsewhere, but they were,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Like you said, two thirds were women."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women. Yes. Because when they paired us up for teams in urban development, there were two women and a guy on each team. And if you were a married couple with the married couple were in the site, but it was they didn't let two women serve together in the sight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was they had to have a man."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They had to have a man, which may be worked out because you needed the man to speak in community meetings. Women were second class."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So let's just spend a little more time on training. So you all went to Albuquerque?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 33.23231500276, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Women. Yes. Because when they paired us up for teams in urban development, there were two women and a guy on each team. And if you were a married couple with the married couple were in the site, but it was they didn't let two women serve together in the sight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was they had to have a man."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They had to have a man, which may be worked out because you needed the man to speak in community meetings. Women were second class."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So let's just spend a little more time on training. So you all went to Albuquerque?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you all make it through training?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 36.924794447511104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They had to have a man, which may be worked out because you needed the man to speak in community meetings. Women were second class."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So let's just spend a little more time on training. So you all went to Albuquerque?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you all make it through training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was this process like?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 34.36088271945678, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you all make it through training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was this process like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was the, it's since been frowned on the horrible selection process. And that was that was really a miserable experience. I was going to ask I came home one night. I missed curfew, not by much, but I climbed through the window to get into my room on the first floor and my roommate was packing her bags. And I said, what's going on? She said, they tell me I can't be a Peace Corps volunteer. I can't be in this. And she was obviously crying. I was upset. I mean, she was a good language student. She was she was Jewish. She was from one of the New York City, Brooklyn in Brooklyn, New York, one of the one of the boroughs. Very intense, very I thought a lot of fun to be around. And she was in tears. They didn't give her a reason. She had to be out by morning. And there she was. And they did that video that went on and it was not pretty. I go and they held that over your heads. And they did. They had, we were tested unbelievably. There were all kinds of psychological testing. And there were like I think it's called a scatter gram test where you put down three people you want to serve with three people. You wouldn't be happy serving with her three or four. And they were using these, you know, to determine I mean, we were doing these and we felt they were using them to determine who was going to make it and who was. And they didn't ask you why you didn't want to why you wouldn't work with somebody or why you wouldn't. You just had to. And they forced you to answer these questions. I mean, you could not turn in the thing blank. You had to do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you think they did use those, those evaluations?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 26.43516731380486, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were supposed to be getting experience in social work because they didn't know what we were going to do in Columbia, so they wanted to expose it. I was on my section. I was going, I was in West Eighty-seven Street where the movie West Side Story had been filmed. I was right there again, language exposure. I think sometimes we were just an extra pair of hands or a body to check on landlords or whatever was going on, you know, just to observe conditions. The office I was in, I don't remember what it was, but the man who headed it was a graduate of Hampton Institute, was an all-Black school. I happened to be a graduate of Junior out of college. We were the first college that had welcomed Hampton Institute's football team to play football. And when he knew I was from Virginia, I mean, he and I bonded immediately, you know, over that. You know, how, how people how people meet and interact. And that was, was huge. And I said Junior at that time was a ranked football power. They had gone to they'd gone to the Tangerine Bowl. And Chuck Knox, who was later became a professional coach, player and coach. So they had they were a power in Division three football. How do I know all about athletics?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So do you think the training prepared you for your experience in Columbia?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. It gave me some language skills. I own is that's. I don't know what kind of training would prepare you to be a Peace Corps volunteer. I mean, my children were volunteers and they had different experiences. Well, I don't know. I don't know whether."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were exposed to lots of different cultures."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That we maybe that was it."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 29.372408126449844, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. It gave me some language skills. I own is that's. I don't know what kind of training would prepare you to be a Peace Corps volunteer. I mean, my children were volunteers and they had different experiences. Well, I don't know. I don't know whether."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were exposed to lots of different cultures."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That we maybe that was it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would probably be the best way. I mean, we were all young. We were all you know, I was not the most naive in the group, but I was certainly among those who."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how many of you actually went overseas?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 30.413786807166492, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That we maybe that was it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would probably be the best way. I mean, we were all young. We were all you know, I was not the most naive in the group, but I was certainly among those who."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how many of you actually went overseas?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm trying to remember, I think maybe 50 women and maybe, you know, maybe 20 or 30 of the men made it. It was you know, they definitely there was a definitely an attrition rate. There was even attrition. Once we arrived at our sites, there was a woman that was in an older woman that was in my group in the city of Medellin. And after and we were found in apartment, we were there and she said, I'm going home. I can't do this. You said you were a part of the Nuremberg trials and you can't do this, you know. No, I'm not. I'm out of here. No. So, I mean, that was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It happens. It happens. So. So you left New York and flew to Colombia?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 31.57087423018499, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would probably be the best way. I mean, we were all young. We were all you know, I was not the most naive in the group, but I was certainly among those who."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how many of you actually went overseas?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm trying to remember, I think maybe 50 women and maybe, you know, maybe 20 or 30 of the men made it. It was you know, they definitely there was a definitely an attrition rate. There was even attrition. Once we arrived at our sites, there was a woman that was in an older woman that was in my group in the city of Medellin. And after and we were found in apartment, we were there and she said, I'm going home. I can't do this. You said you were a part of the Nuremberg trials and you can't do this, you know. No, I'm not. I'm out of here. No. So, I mean, that was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It happens. It happens. So. So you left New York and flew to Colombia?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We flew home. But we also I we in New York, we stayed at the International House and the Cuban Missile Crisis happened while we were there. And we were all surrounded by a television set waiting to see what happened. And that's why I think we went from New York to Colombia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so you got off the plane in and where? Bogota, Bogota and Bogota. And then what happened?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 29.523193589094433, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm trying to remember, I think maybe 50 women and maybe, you know, maybe 20 or 30 of the men made it. It was you know, they definitely there was a definitely an attrition rate. There was even attrition. Once we arrived at our sites, there was a woman that was in an older woman that was in my group in the city of Medellin. And after and we were found in apartment, we were there and she said, I'm going home. I can't do this. You said you were a part of the Nuremberg trials and you can't do this, you know. No, I'm not. I'm out of here. No. So, I mean, that was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It happens. It happens. So. So you left New York and flew to Colombia?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We flew home. But we also I we in New York, we stayed at the International House and the Cuban Missile Crisis happened while we were there. And we were all surrounded by a television set waiting to see what happened. And that's why I think we went from New York to Colombia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so you got off the plane in and where? Bogota, Bogota and Bogota. And then what happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were two groups of male volunteers that were ahead of us. They met the plane. They hadn't seen an American female in a year. So they I don't know whether they had a conference or they were all on medical leave in Bogota that week. But we flew in late at night. I mean, it was late, you know, and then for a week or so, we had some sort of orientation there. And then we were sent to our sites."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where were you?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:87", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.833608083203906, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was. There were there was a lot of drug. There was. Is it opium poppy drug? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't uncommon to come home at night and have somebody asleep on our doorstep or stoned on our doorstep. The drug cartel was going on. And then I mean, drugs, if you're in Medellin, is the flower of the flower capitals of the world. It's a coffee growing region. It doesn't take much to the soil that will grow. Coffee and flowers is also the soil that will grow cocaine. And yeah, it was there. One of the saddest things that we had is we were in the states that we got a phone call from an attorney asking if we would be a character witness in a trial for somebody that we knew that had gotten mixed up in the cartel with the lieutenant. And we said, wait a minute. So we contacted our friend and said, you know, it's his right, you know, should we do it? And Maggie said, no. She said he went bad. She said he murdered his brother. We said, OK, that's it. You know, we can't be a character witness for this guy. So, you know, when you're poor and it's a means to an end, you know, all kinds of things, kinds of things happen, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you made several friends among Colombian folks. Did you make friends with Peace Corps volunteers that apparently. Well, you ended up marrying."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we did. We yeah. That was you know, I think one of your questions relates to impact."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Again, what is going to get to that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Know and I thought about that one because I thought where was the impact? I think for me, some of the impact truly was meeting people from all over my own country who had interesting outlooks on life. Some like mine, some not like mine. We just actually meeting and becoming friendly with people from a wide variety of spectrums. I mean, just so people I would not have met in western Pennsylvania under any circumstance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sounds highly relevant at the moment."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 24.485935905190004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Know and I thought about that one because I thought where was the impact? I think for me, some of the impact truly was meeting people from all over my own country who had interesting outlooks on life. Some like mine, some not like mine. We just actually meeting and becoming friendly with people from a wide variety of spectrums. I mean, just so people I would not have met in western Pennsylvania under any circumstance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sounds highly relevant at the moment."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yes. It really"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Seriously."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it's. Yeah. And you wouldn't meet these people otherwise. We all had a common mission, if you will. I mean, I think that was we all wanted to serve. I mean and I follow some of these like women in Peace Corps women, Peace Corps groups and things like thinking huh. It wasn't the Peace Corps that I was aware of. I mean, it just, it just seems like such a different world. I mean, the men were out in their villages. And I so admire these guys. I mean, they were working and they were doing things. And that's where they're that's where their focus was, was on making a difference where they were. And I was frustrated because we couldn't really make a difference where we were and we couldn't ask to be transferred out. So we just did we did the best we could"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you were a woman and therefore placed in this barrio. Or I guess it's I'm trying to sort out a placement is that the woman being a woman in Peace Corps is a I am treated in Colombia or what combination of all of that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:93", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 26.095484339100004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yes. It really"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Seriously."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, it's. Yeah. And you wouldn't meet these people otherwise. We all had a common mission, if you will. I mean, I think that was we all wanted to serve. I mean and I follow some of these like women in Peace Corps women, Peace Corps groups and things like thinking huh. It wasn't the Peace Corps that I was aware of. I mean, it just, it just seems like such a different world. I mean, the men were out in their villages. And I so admire these guys. I mean, they were working and they were doing things. And that's where they're that's where their focus was, was on making a difference where they were. And I was frustrated because we couldn't really make a difference where we were and we couldn't ask to be transferred out. So we just did we did the best we could"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you were a woman and therefore placed in this barrio. Or I guess it's I'm trying to sort out a placement is that the woman being a woman in Peace Corps is a I am treated in Colombia or what combination of all of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Part of it was we felt a strong commitment that we had to stay in that barrio because, you know, if the mayor says, I'm going to pull out all the volunteers if you don't keep volunteers there. So we had that commitment and we had to find out something to make it work. And that was huge and it was so early. The other thing is we were so close to the airport. We were within walking distance of the airport. So you've got lots of people from Congress, you've got lots of people coming down and they're showcasing where you are. So lots of people pass through there. And that was interesting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you feel you were part of the American official presence there, as there's always this delicate balance between this Peace Corps, part of the State Department, you know, one of the senators now. Wants to put it under state. How did you feel about that? I mean, you had a friend, the wife"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00158:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, not my goal in life was to raise if I was going to raise children, if I was going to raise women and I happened to get women, is to be strong, independent women to do your follow your path, not to do you know what we want you to do, but to do what you want to do. And that was that's why two of them chose Peace Corps as part of their path. But yeah. And the other two are significant volunteers and contributors and all sorts of things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you have four daughters."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We have four daughters. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's good. Yeah. So is there anything is there a story you want to tell or is there something you want to talk about that I didn't ask you about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, no, it's fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, it's not. It's been a good interview. Thank you."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00986:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 55.86072781435215, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nothing, huh?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s exciting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just were assigned a number for accounting purposes that this job was going to be—everything was going to be charged to this one number. I’m sorry I can’t think of that. I’ll see Al Eggers at the banquet—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll fill it in, yes."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00986:7", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 60.95636423816906, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s exciting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You just were assigned a number for accounting purposes that this job was going to be—everything was going to be charged to this one number. I’m sorry I can’t think of that. I’ll see Al Eggers at the banquet—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll fill it in, yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "—and he’ll remember, because he [became] part of the problem. When he went to Headquarters, he started expanding some of these additional paperwork things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you give me an example of an idea or a research that you had that went from this no paperwork into fruition?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00986:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 53.61832324915863, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we did lose some then. Some tried to get back on. One fellow started at Ames, went to Lockheed, came back to Ames, and then went to industry again. He was a very, very bright guy, from Minnesota like me, but he shifted around too much. But there was very, very little turnover. It was sort of you were there, a lot of people, for their whole career."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned earlier that you came to work there at a time of great changes. Could you share a little bit more about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a time when there were lots of new things to do. … [Supersonic flight was still experimental at best.] We didn’t have jet transports or anything like that. I remember going to Washington [D.C.] in DC-6s and the like, old propeller airplanes, take forever.\\n\\n But there were a lot of opportunities. There were so many new things to do that you could really—in every aspect of aeronautics there was, from propulsion to aerodynamics, the higher speeds, understanding transonic flows. Spreiter was good at that, my friend Spreiter. And there were others. Even the handling qualities, how these things flew, were changing, and we really were just beginning to build sophisticated simulators, which Ames, and Langley, too, became very good at building, very, very fancy simulators. So then there were very few supersonic wind tunnels, so that was a whole new field. Space hadn’t started yet or ballistic missiles or any of that. But the technology was exploding so fast, you were almost running to keep up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was your typical day like? What time would you get to work, and what time did you get to come home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, it varied a great deal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did it vary based on what part of that process you were in?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00986:87", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So there was a lot of people that went out. Probably not as much as Langley, but it was sort of like Langley, because Langley, all the people like [Robert R.] Gilruth and Chris Kraft and all those, Faget and all those people, came out of Langley. Anyhow."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another one?\n\nNo, we’re out of tape here.\n\nOkay. So are you about through for—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It came out even? [Laughs]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think it did. Well, we thank you for the day."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was fun for us, too."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:0", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 31.638478142799688, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But this is when I got back from the Peace Corps. I was back here in Ann Arbor and then ended up teaching at the community college and technical college. [tape break]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As soon as I finish introducing myself. So then I have it running before. That's fine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is Ernie Zaremba interviewing Tom Wagner, and today's date is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Today is the 3rd of September 2004. My name is Tom Wagner. I was a Peace Corps volunteer in Malaysia. I was part of a rural community action group that was sent to Malaysia. My job, however, was that of a soil surveyor. I was in Malaysia from May of 1965 to June of 1967."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Tom, let's start with the present. Maybe tell us a little bit about where you're living now, what you're doing now, your interests, anything that relates to the present."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:2", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 29.598309047555208, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is Ernie Zaremba interviewing Tom Wagner, and today's date is?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Today is the 3rd of September 2004. My name is Tom Wagner. I was a Peace Corps volunteer in Malaysia. I was part of a rural community action group that was sent to Malaysia. My job, however, was that of a soil surveyor. I was in Malaysia from May of 1965 to June of 1967."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Tom, let's start with the present. Maybe tell us a little bit about where you're living now, what you're doing now, your interests, anything that relates to the present."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Um, I'm living in Ann Arbor with my wife, who works for the University of Michigan. I worked for 30 years for the Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, which is based here in Ann Arbor. I retired two years ago, and I currently teach urban geography at Eastern Michigan University on a part time basis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, now let's go back to the earlier years, back to before you joined the Peace Corps. And a year or two before when you started thinking about, whatever got that thinking going and in effect ending up with why did you join the Peace Corps? Those stories there."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:4", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 25.10923227506134, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Today is the 3rd of September 2004. My name is Tom Wagner. I was a Peace Corps volunteer in Malaysia. I was part of a rural community action group that was sent to Malaysia. My job, however, was that of a soil surveyor. I was in Malaysia from May of 1965 to June of 1967."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, Tom, let's start with the present. Maybe tell us a little bit about where you're living now, what you're doing now, your interests, anything that relates to the present."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Um, I'm living in Ann Arbor with my wife, who works for the University of Michigan. I worked for 30 years for the Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, which is based here in Ann Arbor. I retired two years ago, and I currently teach urban geography at Eastern Michigan University on a part time basis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, now let's go back to the earlier years, back to before you joined the Peace Corps. And a year or two before when you started thinking about, whatever got that thinking going and in effect ending up with why did you join the Peace Corps? Those stories there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, as you probably know, John Kennedy actually came to the University of Michigan and inadvertently perhaps announced the idea of the Peace Corps on the steps of the Michigan Union. I was in that crowd at midnight on that October day. And, uh, as my academic career progressed in the School of Natural Resources, I thought more and more about the opportunities for travel and for using my skills in natural resources as part of the Peace Corps. And I graduated in 1964. I didn't have anything I particularly wanted to do from a professional standpoint. And so the opportunity to join the Peace Corps came up. I put in my application without any preference listed, and I got a letter back a couple months later saying I had an opportunity to go to Malaysia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you remember your reaction to the letter, or family's and friends' reactions?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:6", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 21.232480305623714, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Um, I'm living in Ann Arbor with my wife, who works for the University of Michigan. I worked for 30 years for the Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, which is based here in Ann Arbor. I retired two years ago, and I currently teach urban geography at Eastern Michigan University on a part time basis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, now let's go back to the earlier years, back to before you joined the Peace Corps. And a year or two before when you started thinking about, whatever got that thinking going and in effect ending up with why did you join the Peace Corps? Those stories there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, as you probably know, John Kennedy actually came to the University of Michigan and inadvertently perhaps announced the idea of the Peace Corps on the steps of the Michigan Union. I was in that crowd at midnight on that October day. And, uh, as my academic career progressed in the School of Natural Resources, I thought more and more about the opportunities for travel and for using my skills in natural resources as part of the Peace Corps. And I graduated in 1964. I didn't have anything I particularly wanted to do from a professional standpoint. And so the opportunity to join the Peace Corps came up. I put in my application without any preference listed, and I got a letter back a couple months later saying I had an opportunity to go to Malaysia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you remember your reaction to the letter, or family's and friends' reactions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was pleased with the invitation to go to Malaysia. I wasn't entirely sure where it was. I knew it was in Southeast Asia. My first, uh, my first activity was to go to a map and find out where Malaysia was. I was surprised to discover at least Malaya is part of the peninsula of Southeast Asia. It's not an island group, although Borneo is part of Malaysia. But, uh, my parents, uh, my friends were pleased. They were satisfied. They thought that was a good thing to do. As you may recall, it was also at the time of the Vietnam War and the opportunity to go to Malaysia rather than to Vietnam seemed attractive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Where did you go for training?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:14", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 18.933821529681012, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had an initial group of 99. Uh, 66 of which were then subsequently selected to go to Malaysia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so it sounds like a fairly stringent, uh, selection process."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were being trained for what was then called rural community action. The intent was that the volunteers would go into villages and to work with village leaders to do whatever they thought would be useful to the village. Much of our training concerned building water seal toilets, latrines, looking at aspects of agriculture. We were taught how to raise and slaughter, uh, goats and swine. And so we had a kind of a broad, uh, training experience. I would say probably half or more of the volunteers, or at least the trainees at the time, had 4-H experience and came from farm states."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, why do you suppose there was such a high attrition in 33 being deselected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I don't really know. I know that indeed there was, uh, particularly I think it was more difficult for the young women than for the young men. But why? Partly because I, it was explained to us that we were really going to be put into a rugged situation where we would be in rural villages and not have access to health care and a variety of other things. So I think they were very careful about selecting people that could accommodate to those conditions."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There's some volunteers that we've interviewed before have said that in their program it was kind of a real point of tension because they really emphasized the deselection. Was that true in your, in your program as you remember it?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:24", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.906487035650068, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think the staff was very good. I do recall that we received quite a bit of useful information. Because I ended up doing not rural community action, much of the training in terms of animal husbandry and sanitation was not useful to me, but nevertheless, I thought it was a wonderful experience and there was a strong bonding, I would say, between the group. When deselection did occur, it was painful to see, uh, friends that you had made leave.\n\nI think the, the one surprise for me when I first went into training was that indeed there were other people like myself who were interested in traveling in different parts of the world and without being paid to have this experience of service. No one prior to my meeting the trainees in Hawaii, uh, no one that I knew had been in the Peace Corps before or had basically similar aspirations. So it came as a surprise, a delightful surprise to me. Kindred souls."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, how long was the training about, would you say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Training was three months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how, how was the language training? What was your reaction to that to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh, I thought it was very good. It was an aural lingual kind of training, uh, repeat after me where the, there were a number of Malay, native Malays that were there, and they would repeat over and over again phrases which we would say in unison and individually work to imitate as carefully and clearly as possible. Only afterwards were we told what the words mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's sort of fascinating. That worked really effectively for you, you'd say?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:26", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 16.56276337294452, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Training was three months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how, how was the language training? What was your reaction to that to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh, I thought it was very good. It was an aural lingual kind of training, uh, repeat after me where the, there were a number of Malay, native Malays that were there, and they would repeat over and over again phrases which we would say in unison and individually work to imitate as carefully and clearly as possible. Only afterwards were we told what the words mean."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's sort of fascinating. That worked really effectively for you, you'd say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so. I was not particularly good at languages, and it did have the effect of providing me with, I think, some basic Malay skills. Malay is not a terribly difficult language, it's a tonal language. But the effect was that I still have some of those phrases running around in my head today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For example? If you could share some of this."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:30", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 16.744152312277183, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so. I was not particularly good at languages, and it did have the effect of providing me with, I think, some basic Malay skills. Malay is not a terribly difficult language, it's a tonal language. But the effect was that I still have some of those phrases running around in my head today."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "For example? If you could share some of this."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean the greeting abacaba habibi, how are you? There's a, there's a whole range of phrases, essentially, short phrases that one uses on the street or in the bazaar. [speaks Malay] That was one. Where is the post office? I remember trying that out the first day I got to Kuala Lumpur on one of the local policemen that were standing there. The fellow just sort of looked at me and said, well, I'll tell you, Joe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In English, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so then flew to, from, directly from Hawaii to Kuala Lumpur? Or you went back home for a bit?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:32", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.826835902530203, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean the greeting abacaba habibi, how are you? There's a, there's a whole range of phrases, essentially, short phrases that one uses on the street or in the bazaar. [speaks Malay] That was one. Where is the post office? I remember trying that out the first day I got to Kuala Lumpur on one of the local policemen that were standing there. The fellow just sort of looked at me and said, well, I'll tell you, Joe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In English, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so then flew to, from, directly from Hawaii to Kuala Lumpur? Or you went back home for a bit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we didn't go back home. We had three days in Hawaii. They flew us from, uh, Hilo to Honolulu. Put us up at a hotel for two nights so that in fact we could enjoy Waikiki Beach and make phone calls. And then we flew directly from there to Bangkok, because the chartered plane also had a group that was going to Thailand and after Bangkok we flew down to Kuala Lumpur. Greeted by the Peace Corps staff. We were Malaysia IX, ninth group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember your reaction when you opened the door and there you were in Kuala Lumpur? In particular, was it what you expected, not expected?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:34", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 12.029817669478003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In English, yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, so then flew to, from, directly from Hawaii to Kuala Lumpur? Or you went back home for a bit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we didn't go back home. We had three days in Hawaii. They flew us from, uh, Hilo to Honolulu. Put us up at a hotel for two nights so that in fact we could enjoy Waikiki Beach and make phone calls. And then we flew directly from there to Bangkok, because the chartered plane also had a group that was going to Thailand and after Bangkok we flew down to Kuala Lumpur. Greeted by the Peace Corps staff. We were Malaysia IX, ninth group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember your reaction when you opened the door and there you were in Kuala Lumpur? In particular, was it what you expected, not expected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I'm not sure how much I expected. When they opened the door, the Peace Corps staff was there. The director, his wife, I think a couple of his children, other members, local members of the staff. And they put leis around our necks. And I remember that as being nice. Uh. We were thrilled to be finally in Malaysia, in Kuala Lumpur. I remember that the tropics, of course, you opened that door of the airplane that had been air conditioned to get that nice, warm, humid, uh, waves and, you know, fragrant that, that I think you all experienced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you train in Kuala Lumpur then for a little bit or?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:36", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.033130743864447, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we didn't go back home. We had three days in Hawaii. They flew us from, uh, Hilo to Honolulu. Put us up at a hotel for two nights so that in fact we could enjoy Waikiki Beach and make phone calls. And then we flew directly from there to Bangkok, because the chartered plane also had a group that was going to Thailand and after Bangkok we flew down to Kuala Lumpur. Greeted by the Peace Corps staff. We were Malaysia IX, ninth group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember your reaction when you opened the door and there you were in Kuala Lumpur? In particular, was it what you expected, not expected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I'm not sure how much I expected. When they opened the door, the Peace Corps staff was there. The director, his wife, I think a couple of his children, other members, local members of the staff. And they put leis around our necks. And I remember that as being nice. Uh. We were thrilled to be finally in Malaysia, in Kuala Lumpur. I remember that the tropics, of course, you opened that door of the airplane that had been air conditioned to get that nice, warm, humid, uh, waves and, you know, fragrant that, that I think you all experienced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you train in Kuala Lumpur then for a little bit or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really. We were, uh, we were put up for different parts of the time until we were ready to go off to our different assignments. I mentioned that there were 66 of us that made it through the, uh, the training. Only 17 of us actually stayed in Malaya. The rest of the group set off to Sabah and Sarawak. And so I think after 1 or 2 days, that group left for Sabah and Sarawak and the 17 of us would gradually go off to our assignments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you may have stayed in a hotel or something in Kuala Lumpur until you found your assignment?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:38", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 11.147923048738274, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I'm not sure how much I expected. When they opened the door, the Peace Corps staff was there. The director, his wife, I think a couple of his children, other members, local members of the staff. And they put leis around our necks. And I remember that as being nice. Uh. We were thrilled to be finally in Malaysia, in Kuala Lumpur. I remember that the tropics, of course, you opened that door of the airplane that had been air conditioned to get that nice, warm, humid, uh, waves and, you know, fragrant that, that I think you all experienced."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you train in Kuala Lumpur then for a little bit or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really. We were, uh, we were put up for different parts of the time until we were ready to go off to our different assignments. I mentioned that there were 66 of us that made it through the, uh, the training. Only 17 of us actually stayed in Malaya. The rest of the group set off to Sabah and Sarawak. And so I think after 1 or 2 days, that group left for Sabah and Sarawak and the 17 of us would gradually go off to our assignments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you may have stayed in a hotel or something in Kuala Lumpur until you found your assignment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was a hotel, although there was a Peace Corps hostel there too. The Peace Corps hostel had bunk beds for volunteers when they came into Kuala Lumpur. It was a place they could, they could stay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, did you have any voice in your assignment about either of who you might be teamed with, or where you would go or it was all assigned?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:40", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.164358943042526, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really. We were, uh, we were put up for different parts of the time until we were ready to go off to our different assignments. I mentioned that there were 66 of us that made it through the, uh, the training. Only 17 of us actually stayed in Malaya. The rest of the group set off to Sabah and Sarawak. And so I think after 1 or 2 days, that group left for Sabah and Sarawak and the 17 of us would gradually go off to our assignments."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you may have stayed in a hotel or something in Kuala Lumpur until you found your assignment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was a hotel, although there was a Peace Corps hostel there too. The Peace Corps hostel had bunk beds for volunteers when they came into Kuala Lumpur. It was a place they could, they could stay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, did you have any voice in your assignment about either of who you might be teamed with, or where you would go or it was all assigned?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I had no, uh, involvement in the assignment, the, partly because I had had some training in soil science when I was at the university. They decided that I would be seconded to the Department of Agriculture and work on soil surveying. I would become a soil surveyor. There were two Peace Corps soil surveyors that were there ahead of me, and they were both completing their assignments and leaving. And so both had very positive experiences. And partly because of this previous training in soil science, although I knew nothing about tropical soils, I was assigned to the Soil Survey Division of the Department of Agriculture, which, as I mentioned, was very different than from what I had been trained in. [tape break]\n\nMy assignment, and the short answer was no. I had no role in choosing the assignment. On the other hand, the assignment was not specifically what I had been trained for because it involved assignment to a rural town where I would be one of two people that were involved in conducting and mapping agricultural soils in the center part of the country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The question, you said you were the third, two preceded you with soils?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:42", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.29373215893614, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was a hotel, although there was a Peace Corps hostel there too. The Peace Corps hostel had bunk beds for volunteers when they came into Kuala Lumpur. It was a place they could, they could stay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, did you have any voice in your assignment about either of who you might be teamed with, or where you would go or it was all assigned?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I had no, uh, involvement in the assignment, the, partly because I had had some training in soil science when I was at the university. They decided that I would be seconded to the Department of Agriculture and work on soil surveying. I would become a soil surveyor. There were two Peace Corps soil surveyors that were there ahead of me, and they were both completing their assignments and leaving. And so both had very positive experiences. And partly because of this previous training in soil science, although I knew nothing about tropical soils, I was assigned to the Soil Survey Division of the Department of Agriculture, which, as I mentioned, was very different than from what I had been trained in. [tape break]\n\nMy assignment, and the short answer was no. I had no role in choosing the assignment. On the other hand, the assignment was not specifically what I had been trained for because it involved assignment to a rural town where I would be one of two people that were involved in conducting and mapping agricultural soils in the center part of the country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The question, you said you were the third, two preceded you with soils?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Correct."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were they still there when you arrived?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:44", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.54859128770682, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I had no, uh, involvement in the assignment, the, partly because I had had some training in soil science when I was at the university. They decided that I would be seconded to the Department of Agriculture and work on soil surveying. I would become a soil surveyor. There were two Peace Corps soil surveyors that were there ahead of me, and they were both completing their assignments and leaving. And so both had very positive experiences. And partly because of this previous training in soil science, although I knew nothing about tropical soils, I was assigned to the Soil Survey Division of the Department of Agriculture, which, as I mentioned, was very different than from what I had been trained in. [tape break]\n\nMy assignment, and the short answer was no. I had no role in choosing the assignment. On the other hand, the assignment was not specifically what I had been trained for because it involved assignment to a rural town where I would be one of two people that were involved in conducting and mapping agricultural soils in the center part of the country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The question, you said you were the third, two preceded you with soils?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Correct."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were they still there when you arrived?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One was there, just leaving. The other had just left."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a chance to talk to this person or not really?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:46", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.831768097452022, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Correct."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were they still there when you arrived?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "One was there, just leaving. The other had just left."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a chance to talk to this person or not really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh, I talked to him on the phone. He was stationed in a different city, Kuantan, over on the east coast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is that helpful at all or not that you remember?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:48", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.146408997168912, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One was there, just leaving. The other had just left."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have a chance to talk to this person or not really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh, I talked to him on the phone. He was stationed in a different city, Kuantan, over on the east coast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is that helpful at all or not that you remember?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really. In part because it really, the phone call really just had to do with arranging for the transfer of some equipment and things of that sort. I was assigned to a counterpart, uh, Malaysian, who eventually then went on to become the soil correlator for the entire peninsula of Malaya. But he and I then shared an office and basically taught me what I needed to know about carrying out a soil survey."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now you said there were two of you that did soil survey, is that correct?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:50", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.607121107965458, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh, I talked to him on the phone. He was stationed in a different city, Kuantan, over on the east coast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So is that helpful at all or not that you remember?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really. In part because it really, the phone call really just had to do with arranging for the transfer of some equipment and things of that sort. I was assigned to a counterpart, uh, Malaysian, who eventually then went on to become the soil correlator for the entire peninsula of Malaya. But he and I then shared an office and basically taught me what I needed to know about carrying out a soil survey."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now you said there were two of you that did soil survey, is that correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this one office."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there not two volunteers, or wasn't there another volunteer you said that was assigned to a similar assignment to you or not?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:52", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 16.230134564406065, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really. In part because it really, the phone call really just had to do with arranging for the transfer of some equipment and things of that sort. I was assigned to a counterpart, uh, Malaysian, who eventually then went on to become the soil correlator for the entire peninsula of Malaya. But he and I then shared an office and basically taught me what I needed to know about carrying out a soil survey."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now you said there were two of you that did soil survey, is that correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this one office."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there not two volunteers, or wasn't there another volunteer you said that was assigned to a similar assignment to you or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at the time that I was there. I was the only one. There had been two previous to my arrival that had carried on soil survey work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So then how far away was this village from Kuala Lumpur to where you had to go? Or how many hours?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:54", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.70014951600674, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In this one office."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there not two volunteers, or wasn't there another volunteer you said that was assigned to a similar assignment to you or not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at the time that I was there. I was the only one. There had been two previous to my arrival that had carried on soil survey work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So then how far away was this village from Kuala Lumpur to where you had to go? Or how many hours?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The town was called Raub. It was in the central highlands and it was about 90 miles away, or four hours by bus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you spell that for us?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:56", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.33349946222971, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not at the time that I was there. I was the only one. There had been two previous to my arrival that had carried on soil survey work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. So then how far away was this village from Kuala Lumpur to where you had to go? Or how many hours?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The town was called Raub. It was in the central highlands and it was about 90 miles away, or four hours by bus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you spell that for us?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "R-A-U-B."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you go by bus then, four hours?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:58", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 18.14833273581079, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The town was called Raub. It was in the central highlands and it was about 90 miles away, or four hours by bus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you spell that for us?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "R-A-U-B."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you go by bus then, four hours?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any anecdotes about that bus trip? Was that your first?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:60", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 17.942591928678656, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "R-A-U-B."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you go by bus then, four hours?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any anecdotes about that bus trip? Was that your first?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it was my first bus trip in, yes, in Malaysia, and because it was in the mountains, there were a lot of switchbacks and in terms of getting there. Once I got to Malaysia or I got to Raub and got to the soil survey office that had been set up, uh, there was a Land Rover and there were, uh, the railroad would go close by route and I was given a set of tickets where I could write myself tickets to take myself and my crew up to where I needed to get off to do soil search. So transportation actually wasn't a problem. Although I do recall that four hour bus ride."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell us a little bit about that."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:62", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.49176880964295, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any anecdotes about that bus trip? Was that your first?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it was my first bus trip in, yes, in Malaysia, and because it was in the mountains, there were a lot of switchbacks and in terms of getting there. Once I got to Malaysia or I got to Raub and got to the soil survey office that had been set up, uh, there was a Land Rover and there were, uh, the railroad would go close by route and I was given a set of tickets where I could write myself tickets to take myself and my crew up to where I needed to get off to do soil search. So transportation actually wasn't a problem. Although I do recall that four hour bus ride."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell us a little bit about that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the, uh, there are a lot of switchbacks. Actually, quickly what I learned was that in Malaysia, uh, you don't really need to take the bus on these long trips because they have taxis where you can go to the taxi station in Kuala Lumpur, and you can buy a seat in one of these old Mercedes, uh, diesel taxis. You may have to sit there for an hour or two until they filled up the taxi. But then that taxi would take people to your city or cities nearby, and they could do that four hour trip in about 2.5 hours. Uh, again, it's advisable to have a little Dramamine and do that because they're driving pretty fast. And so the curves are pretty exciting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So was it a fairly exciting bus trip that you had, the four hour one with the switchbacks?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:64", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 17.213076455158834, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it was my first bus trip in, yes, in Malaysia, and because it was in the mountains, there were a lot of switchbacks and in terms of getting there. Once I got to Malaysia or I got to Raub and got to the soil survey office that had been set up, uh, there was a Land Rover and there were, uh, the railroad would go close by route and I was given a set of tickets where I could write myself tickets to take myself and my crew up to where I needed to get off to do soil search. So transportation actually wasn't a problem. Although I do recall that four hour bus ride."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell us a little bit about that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the, uh, there are a lot of switchbacks. Actually, quickly what I learned was that in Malaysia, uh, you don't really need to take the bus on these long trips because they have taxis where you can go to the taxi station in Kuala Lumpur, and you can buy a seat in one of these old Mercedes, uh, diesel taxis. You may have to sit there for an hour or two until they filled up the taxi. But then that taxi would take people to your city or cities nearby, and they could do that four hour trip in about 2.5 hours. Uh, again, it's advisable to have a little Dramamine and do that because they're driving pretty fast. And so the curves are pretty exciting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So was it a fairly exciting bus trip that you had, the four hour one with the switchbacks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a little bit slower. I mean, the bus was crowded. It was hot. Uh, but when you're in a country for the first time, it's all new and very exciting. And so, uh, I don't recall that I particularly regretted the trip or thought it was uncomfortable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it's fairly mountainous then in the switchbacks of that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:66", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.681196061287592, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the, uh, there are a lot of switchbacks. Actually, quickly what I learned was that in Malaysia, uh, you don't really need to take the bus on these long trips because they have taxis where you can go to the taxi station in Kuala Lumpur, and you can buy a seat in one of these old Mercedes, uh, diesel taxis. You may have to sit there for an hour or two until they filled up the taxi. But then that taxi would take people to your city or cities nearby, and they could do that four hour trip in about 2.5 hours. Uh, again, it's advisable to have a little Dramamine and do that because they're driving pretty fast. And so the curves are pretty exciting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So was it a fairly exciting bus trip that you had, the four hour one with the switchbacks?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a little bit slower. I mean, the bus was crowded. It was hot. Uh, but when you're in a country for the first time, it's all new and very exciting. And so, uh, I don't recall that I particularly regretted the trip or thought it was uncomfortable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it's fairly mountainous then in the switchbacks of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes. The main range of, uh, that goes down basically the spine of the Malay Peninsula, that's, it's about the same size and shape as Florida, except there's this mountain range towards the middle, uh, that goes up to about 70,000 feet. And so the town that I was assigned to, Raub, was in the foothills of the range, at about 500 ft. And that turned out to be an advantage, because it's actually a little bit cooler than all of the coastal towns."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About how big of a town was it roughly, would you say?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:68", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.312440068097324, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a little bit slower. I mean, the bus was crowded. It was hot. Uh, but when you're in a country for the first time, it's all new and very exciting. And so, uh, I don't recall that I particularly regretted the trip or thought it was uncomfortable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it's fairly mountainous then in the switchbacks of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes. The main range of, uh, that goes down basically the spine of the Malay Peninsula, that's, it's about the same size and shape as Florida, except there's this mountain range towards the middle, uh, that goes up to about 70,000 feet. And so the town that I was assigned to, Raub, was in the foothills of the range, at about 500 ft. And that turned out to be an advantage, because it's actually a little bit cooler than all of the coastal towns."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About how big of a town was it roughly, would you say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say it was probably about 10,000 people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So a decent sized town."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:70", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 17.013822297885913, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes. The main range of, uh, that goes down basically the spine of the Malay Peninsula, that's, it's about the same size and shape as Florida, except there's this mountain range towards the middle, uh, that goes up to about 70,000 feet. And so the town that I was assigned to, Raub, was in the foothills of the range, at about 500 ft. And that turned out to be an advantage, because it's actually a little bit cooler than all of the coastal towns."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "About how big of a town was it roughly, would you say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say it was probably about 10,000 people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So a decent sized town."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was, yes. It had two and a half main streets. It had three cinemas, had a roundabout, had a government guest house. And working for the Malaysian Department of Agriculture, I was treated as a division one government officer. So I was entitled to government quarters and to the perks, essentially, that government officers get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were your quarters like?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:72", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 14.459802553206568, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say it was probably about 10,000 people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So a decent sized town."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was, yes. It had two and a half main streets. It had three cinemas, had a roundabout, had a government guest house. And working for the Malaysian Department of Agriculture, I was treated as a division one government officer. So I was entitled to government quarters and to the perks, essentially, that government officers get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what were your quarters like?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was given a, an apartment in an old, uh, apartment building, essentially, that the government had foreclosed on. It had six rooms, of which I only needed one, and at later time several people came, Malaysians came to work at the soil survey office where I was assigned, and I would let them stay in the other rooms. I stayed in one that was sort of out back and kind of faced a vacant lot where timber was dried. And it was a public lot with people coming and going at all hours of the night. So it was interesting to look out my balcony and see the back alley of Raub and all of the activities that occur in the middle of the night."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of activities would be?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:76", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.444200682971072, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was given a, an apartment in an old, uh, apartment building, essentially, that the government had foreclosed on. It had six rooms, of which I only needed one, and at later time several people came, Malaysians came to work at the soil survey office where I was assigned, and I would let them stay in the other rooms. I stayed in one that was sort of out back and kind of faced a vacant lot where timber was dried. And it was a public lot with people coming and going at all hours of the night. So it was interesting to look out my balcony and see the back alley of Raub and all of the activities that occur in the middle of the night."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What kind of activities would be?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, all kinds of things. Uh, very often, uh, the shopkeepers who would have the, uh, living quarters on the second floor of their shops on Main Street would come to the back of their house, and they had been out drinking all night, and at 2:00 in the morning, they'd be banging on the door for their wives to let them in.\n\nUh, there was a, there was a mad lady that lived in this kind of, uh, vacant lot. Uh, she was an old Chinese lady, uh, mad as a hatter. People would feed her. She would sort of sleep in, uh, under the boards and that were being dried, uh. And she would come over and look up at me on the balcony when I would have to go to the, there was a bathroom that basically right next to my bedroom. But I would have to go along this balcony and she would look at me, and I don't know what she was saying, but she would scold me and she would yell and scream and point at me, and everybody ignored her. As I say, they, uh, in the mornings they would, she would go along Main Street and people would give her food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, were you there the whole two years in this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was there the whole two years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was she there the whole two years?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:78", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.493556314412302, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, all kinds of things. Uh, very often, uh, the shopkeepers who would have the, uh, living quarters on the second floor of their shops on Main Street would come to the back of their house, and they had been out drinking all night, and at 2:00 in the morning, they'd be banging on the door for their wives to let them in.\n\nUh, there was a, there was a mad lady that lived in this kind of, uh, vacant lot. Uh, she was an old Chinese lady, uh, mad as a hatter. People would feed her. She would sort of sleep in, uh, under the boards and that were being dried, uh. And she would come over and look up at me on the balcony when I would have to go to the, there was a bathroom that basically right next to my bedroom. But I would have to go along this balcony and she would look at me, and I don't know what she was saying, but she would scold me and she would yell and scream and point at me, and everybody ignored her. As I say, they, uh, in the mornings they would, she would go along Main Street and people would give her food."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, were you there the whole two years in this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was there the whole two years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was she there the whole two years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so, yes, I think so. Uh, I had been, hadn't been told that there had been a Peace Corps volunteer that had been assigned to Raub prior to my being there. But he had tried to open some, I think he was a teacher, a youth club of some sort, and it hadn't gone very well. And so he actually had to leave early. So."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Remember the story of that? What happened?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:80", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 11.659507016013668, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was there the whole two years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was she there the whole two years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so, yes, I think so. Uh, I had been, hadn't been told that there had been a Peace Corps volunteer that had been assigned to Raub prior to my being there. But he had tried to open some, I think he was a teacher, a youth club of some sort, and it hadn't gone very well. And so he actually had to leave early. So."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Remember the story of that? What happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had no, that was, that is about as much as I ever knew, what I was told by local people. Oh, uh, you know, they, they had had a Peace Corps volunteer there, and it hadn't worked out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, this, were there any other Peace Corps volunteers nearby you at all?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:82", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 9.621674462237408, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so, yes, I think so. Uh, I had been, hadn't been told that there had been a Peace Corps volunteer that had been assigned to Raub prior to my being there. But he had tried to open some, I think he was a teacher, a youth club of some sort, and it hadn't gone very well. And so he actually had to leave early. So."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Remember the story of that? What happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had no, that was, that is about as much as I ever knew, what I was told by local people. Oh, uh, you know, they, they had had a Peace Corps volunteer there, and it hadn't worked out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, this, were there any other Peace Corps volunteers nearby you at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Later on, after one year, there was one young man who was sent to teach industrial arts in the local school. And then about six months before I left, there were, there was a Peace Corps couple that came to teach also in the local school. And then finally, uh, a month before I left, there was a fellow who came to work on TB. So when I first arrived, there were no Peace Corps volunteers. And then when I left, there were four."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, were there other Europeans in the area or?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:84", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.468527180263786, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had no, that was, that is about as much as I ever knew, what I was told by local people. Oh, uh, you know, they, they had had a Peace Corps volunteer there, and it hadn't worked out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, this, were there any other Peace Corps volunteers nearby you at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Later on, after one year, there was one young man who was sent to teach industrial arts in the local school. And then about six months before I left, there were, there was a Peace Corps couple that came to teach also in the local school. And then finally, uh, a month before I left, there was a fellow who came to work on TB. So when I first arrived, there were no Peace Corps volunteers. And then when I left, there were four."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, were there other Europeans in the area or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Uh, there was an American missionary couple, uh, that was looking after a church in town. There were, uh, there was the British, uh, bank manager of the local bank there. I think that's pretty much it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, did that color people's perception of you, do you think, this previous volunteer that had to leave or?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:86", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.40947464473754, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Later on, after one year, there was one young man who was sent to teach industrial arts in the local school. And then about six months before I left, there were, there was a Peace Corps couple that came to teach also in the local school. And then finally, uh, a month before I left, there was a fellow who came to work on TB. So when I first arrived, there were no Peace Corps volunteers. And then when I left, there were four."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, were there other Europeans in the area or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Uh, there was an American missionary couple, uh, that was looking after a church in town. There were, uh, there was the British, uh, bank manager of the local bank there. I think that's pretty much it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, did that color people's perception of you, do you think, this previous volunteer that had to leave or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't think so. My job was to work with basically this federal, uh, soil survey project. It didn't involve me interacting, uh, professionally with the townspeople. I ate, uh, in the local shops, uh, when I was not out in the jungle, but I had no interaction that formed any sort of reaction on the people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, many volunteers report having a cook or somebody do laundry. Did you have anything like that in your situation?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:88", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 9.343860716375044, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Uh, there was an American missionary couple, uh, that was looking after a church in town. There were, uh, there was the British, uh, bank manager of the local bank there. I think that's pretty much it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, did that color people's perception of you, do you think, this previous volunteer that had to leave or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't think so. My job was to work with basically this federal, uh, soil survey project. It didn't involve me interacting, uh, professionally with the townspeople. I ate, uh, in the local shops, uh, when I was not out in the jungle, but I had no interaction that formed any sort of reaction on the people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, many volunteers report having a cook or somebody do laundry. Did you have anything like that in your situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had a young girl that would come and collect my laundry, and I, of course, would pay her and she would bring it back all nicely cleaned and pressed. She didn't know what she was getting into when we made the initial agreement, in part because when we worked in the jungle and you live in the same clothes for five or 6 or 8 days at a time, they come back pretty dirty. And so when she, after a couple of times, she insisted on renegotiating her agreement."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell us a little bit about, uh, working in the jungle or and combined with your office work. So there was some office work and some jungle or maybe?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:90", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.159845240416715, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't think so. My job was to work with basically this federal, uh, soil survey project. It didn't involve me interacting, uh, professionally with the townspeople. I ate, uh, in the local shops, uh, when I was not out in the jungle, but I had no interaction that formed any sort of reaction on the people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, many volunteers report having a cook or somebody do laundry. Did you have anything like that in your situation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had a young girl that would come and collect my laundry, and I, of course, would pay her and she would bring it back all nicely cleaned and pressed. She didn't know what she was getting into when we made the initial agreement, in part because when we worked in the jungle and you live in the same clothes for five or 6 or 8 days at a time, they come back pretty dirty. And so when she, after a couple of times, she insisted on renegotiating her agreement."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell us a little bit about, uh, working in the jungle or and combined with your office work. So there was some office work and some jungle or maybe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had a soil survey office where, uh, for the first year, I had this counterpart, uh, Malaysian, who had been trained in soil survey and was quite experienced. At the end of that first year, he returned to Kuala Lumpur to take up this role of coordinator for all soil survey offices around the country. So I was in charge of this office, which included a Malay assistant, a Chinese assistant, an office boy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, in charge, was the second year or this was the first year?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:92", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.9553836004630165, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had a young girl that would come and collect my laundry, and I, of course, would pay her and she would bring it back all nicely cleaned and pressed. She didn't know what she was getting into when we made the initial agreement, in part because when we worked in the jungle and you live in the same clothes for five or 6 or 8 days at a time, they come back pretty dirty. And so when she, after a couple of times, she insisted on renegotiating her agreement."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell us a little bit about, uh, working in the jungle or and combined with your office work. So there was some office work and some jungle or maybe?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had a soil survey office where, uh, for the first year, I had this counterpart, uh, Malaysian, who had been trained in soil survey and was quite experienced. At the end of that first year, he returned to Kuala Lumpur to take up this role of coordinator for all soil survey offices around the country. So I was in charge of this office, which included a Malay assistant, a Chinese assistant, an office boy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, in charge, was the second year or this was the first year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Second year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let's say the first year right now. Did your counterpart speak English?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:94", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.839315111625574, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had a soil survey office where, uh, for the first year, I had this counterpart, uh, Malaysian, who had been trained in soil survey and was quite experienced. At the end of that first year, he returned to Kuala Lumpur to take up this role of coordinator for all soil survey offices around the country. So I was in charge of this office, which included a Malay assistant, a Chinese assistant, an office boy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, in charge, was the second year or this was the first year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Second year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let's say the first year right now. Did your counterpart speak English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. Yes, he was Chinese, and English was, uh, the language basically of anyone at that level of government service."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you need your Malaysian language much or?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:96", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.710350124028414, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Second year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Let's say the first year right now. Did your counterpart speak English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. Yes, he was Chinese, and English was, uh, the language basically of anyone at that level of government service."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you need your Malaysian language much or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did, because when I would go into the jungle, it would be for a week or two weeks at a time. And the only people that would be with me were Malay speaking laborers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about your coworker? Would he be with you, your partner?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:98", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.678166804476016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. Yes, he was Chinese, and English was, uh, the language basically of anyone at that level of government service."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you need your Malaysian language much or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did, because when I would go into the jungle, it would be for a week or two weeks at a time. And the only people that would be with me were Malay speaking laborers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about your coworker? Would he be with you, your partner?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not after the first time. We went in together the first time, uh, so that he, in fact, showed me what the procedure was, how we would sample the soil, and how we would use that information, especially to make a map. But after that one time, I was on my own."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did that go, say, especially early on?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:100", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.420185338306684, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did, because when I would go into the jungle, it would be for a week or two weeks at a time. And the only people that would be with me were Malay speaking laborers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about your coworker? Would he be with you, your partner?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not after the first time. We went in together the first time, uh, so that he, in fact, showed me what the procedure was, how we would sample the soil, and how we would use that information, especially to make a map. But after that one time, I was on my own."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did that go, say, especially early on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It went all right. Uh, there's a good reason that, in fact, people aren't flocking to map soils in the Malaysian jungle. And that is this, it's sticky, boring work. Uh, it's, you are literally drenched with sweat from morning to night. You're soaked from stepping into streams at the bottoms of hills. And, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's actually not a very pleasant experience. It's, it's sort of boring.\n\nUh, the evenings are interesting because the jungle, although it's still warm, it becomes more animated at night. Most of the animals in tropical jungles are nocturnal. Uh, the elephants, the wildlife, move around at night. During the day, the only thing that's moving around are the leeches who are after you as you stand there trying to make notes. You can see them, they're like little inchworms heading towards you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they attracted to the heat or?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:102", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.244650375896315, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not after the first time. We went in together the first time, uh, so that he, in fact, showed me what the procedure was, how we would sample the soil, and how we would use that information, especially to make a map. But after that one time, I was on my own."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did that go, say, especially early on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It went all right. Uh, there's a good reason that, in fact, people aren't flocking to map soils in the Malaysian jungle. And that is this, it's sticky, boring work. Uh, it's, you are literally drenched with sweat from morning to night. You're soaked from stepping into streams at the bottoms of hills. And, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's actually not a very pleasant experience. It's, it's sort of boring.\n\nUh, the evenings are interesting because the jungle, although it's still warm, it becomes more animated at night. Most of the animals in tropical jungles are nocturnal. Uh, the elephants, the wildlife, move around at night. During the day, the only thing that's moving around are the leeches who are after you as you stand there trying to make notes. You can see them, they're like little inchworms heading towards you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are they attracted to the heat or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are, I think they're attracted to the heat, yes. And although they were not large leeches, they are not buffalo leeches like you get in the paddies, they, uh, they get into your boot, canvas boots were what we wore in the jungle, and they gorge themselves. And very often you didn't know that you had a leech until the side of your boot started sort of turning red because they inject an anticoagulant. And even though they drop off, the little hole that they bore in you still continues to bleed a bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, how would you get them off if you wanted them off before they dropped you off? Did you have to use salt or something?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:106", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 10.178580710983104, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They are, I think they're attracted to the heat, yes. And although they were not large leeches, they are not buffalo leeches like you get in the paddies, they, uh, they get into your boot, canvas boots were what we wore in the jungle, and they gorge themselves. And very often you didn't know that you had a leech until the side of your boot started sort of turning red because they inject an anticoagulant. And even though they drop off, the little hole that they bore in you still continues to bleed a bit."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, how would you get them off if you wanted them off before they dropped you off? Did you have to use salt or something?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Salt is, uh, was commonly used. Uh, tobacco was commonly used. Uh, my experience was I always had a little hunting knife and I could just kind of scrape them off, and they would irritate me enough that I would take the trouble to cut them in half, which just made two of them, but rather messy. I tried using a match, for example, too but that, that was really just true colors."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't have to worry about them leaving any mouthparts in you or anything like that, like with a tick?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you do have to worry about that. You don't, uh. You know, you have to be a little bit careful in terms of. Actually, as I recall, I used to carry a little bottle of iodine and a drop of iodine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So describe a little bit about the work. You would just go to a spot, get some soil, and go, uh, 100 yards away or?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:114", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.569548408753395, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't have a transit. Uh, I had a compass. And what we would do is prior to actually going out and recording soil samples at eight, one eighth of a mile intervals, we would have the laborers chain off the distances. They would take a surveyor's chain, and they would put a stick at a certain intervals along what was called the rentis, which is, uh, which is the survey line. And then they would come out and then, uh, my colleague and I then would go in on that same track. They have to make measurements, but we would always know where we were because the track was done previous to the survey."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were you living in a tent or how did you live when you're out in the jungle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, a tent would be too hot at night. They had what were called camp stretchers, which basically is just a rectangular piece of canvas. And the laborers would cut sticks that would create a little sort of sloping roof that would go over then, uh, a canvas thing you will use for your, uh, your bed. That would be also with sticks put up, uh, a little bit above ground level. You don't really want to be on the ground with all the critters in the jungle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any critter stories?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nothing of any great note. Uh, we would keep, I would usually, uh, have 3 or 4 laborers that were also staying in the camp, and so any large animal that would come along would see that indeed there were more people there than that the animal want to tackle. We had, we did wake up and see tiger tracks around the camp where the tiger, you know, sort of surveyed things and decided that's not what he wanted to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was that fairly dangerous? I think you might need somebody with a, with a gun handy or not?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:122", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.901918013646386, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "This fine, fine mist. And of course, I had this canvas over the top of my little cot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, I picture biting ants and all sorts of rainforest things, like scorpions."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I took, uh, a mosquito net in the first few times. [cat meows] I should strangle my cat. [laughs] Um, but I found that working in the primary jungle, particularly working in an area that's not close to human habitation, mosquitoes are not a problem. Mosquitoes go after warm blooded animals, and the tropical jungle is actually a pretty sterile place. There aren't a lot of big, warm blooded animals in high densities. Only when you get to places where there are villages where people go along paths, then you get a lot of mosquitos. And with the leeches too, for that matter."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about poisonous snakes, like that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was. [phone rings] Okay. [tape break]\n\nUh, no problem with poisonous snakes. Poisonous snakes are normally water snakes. I was working in kind of highland areas. You might see, I did see a python, which is a very beautiful snake. And the skin is worth a lot of money. The laborers were delighted. The snake was all sort of coiled up by the side of the path. And at first I thought it was dead, because one of the laborers kicked the snake and it didn't move. Later took out his parang, his machete, and cut one of the coils that was a kind on top of the pile of the snake, and essentially about that much, about a foot of his tail was sliced off. And the rest of the snake kind of gave a lurch and kind of moseyed off into the, into the jungle without the benefit of his tail."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So now you were up a little bit in the highlands. Right now we're at sea level, so it wasn't as humid as it could have been?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:128", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.988913598966235, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's correct. It was, it was plenty humid in the jungle. Uh, yeah. We were going up and down hill all the time, and so we were warm, but the temperatures were a little bit milder than what you'd get at sea level."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. I also, you know, you hear stories about the Amazon with various biting insects and all that particularly. Run into that in the rainforest?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not a, not a problem. Again, the objective is to go into the jungle just as soon as the traverse line has been cut and chained off. The laborers would cut their way through the jungle. What you find is if you wait too long, then all the animals in the jungle use that trail as well. And if they use that trail, the tigers, the barking deer, other mammals, uh, will attract then mosquitoes and will attract leeches. But if you get in right away, essentially before the animals are using that trailways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you eat while you're off on what safari? Ten, ten days or so you'd say you were off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, anywhere from four to, I think the longest was probably about ten days. Uh. And I would what the laborers ate. I would bring along, well, I'd bring along some tins and cans of, uh, beef stew. They would cook rice. They would also cook little fried fish. They would fry up some fish, put the spices in. And I found I could live on that quite well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were the fish from the jungle or are they brought from?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:130", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 11.098792887740261, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not a, not a problem. Again, the objective is to go into the jungle just as soon as the traverse line has been cut and chained off. The laborers would cut their way through the jungle. What you find is if you wait too long, then all the animals in the jungle use that trail as well. And if they use that trail, the tigers, the barking deer, other mammals, uh, will attract then mosquitoes and will attract leeches. But if you get in right away, essentially before the animals are using that trailways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you eat while you're off on what safari? Ten, ten days or so you'd say you were off?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, anywhere from four to, I think the longest was probably about ten days. Uh. And I would what the laborers ate. I would bring along, well, I'd bring along some tins and cans of, uh, beef stew. They would cook rice. They would also cook little fried fish. They would fry up some fish, put the spices in. And I found I could live on that quite well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were the fish from the jungle or are they brought from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, they were dried fish that they brought from the market in town. And they would, of course, bring rice. And so they would have a little bit of rice left over from the night before for breakfast. We would stop once for lunch, but basically it was just a cup of tea with lots of condensed milk in it. And then have a reasonable size dinner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now in the areas you worked in the jungle, were there people there already living or is it not?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:132", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.998658764155845, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, anywhere from four to, I think the longest was probably about ten days. Uh. And I would what the laborers ate. I would bring along, well, I'd bring along some tins and cans of, uh, beef stew. They would cook rice. They would also cook little fried fish. They would fry up some fish, put the spices in. And I found I could live on that quite well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were the fish from the jungle or are they brought from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, they were dried fish that they brought from the market in town. And they would, of course, bring rice. And so they would have a little bit of rice left over from the night before for breakfast. We would stop once for lunch, but basically it was just a cup of tea with lots of condensed milk in it. And then have a reasonable size dinner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now in the areas you worked in the jungle, were there people there already living or is it not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were relatively few people. This was an area that had been occupied by terrorists during the Malaysian emergency after World War II. Communists attacked the British in Malaysia and that emergency was declared over in 1955, but there were still remnants that were reported to be in the jungle. And so, for example, I was told I shouldn't wear jungle green outfit. I should report to a police station when I go into the jungle and then go out again. So they know that I'm working in the jungle. But the short answer was they were [inaudible]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever run into any of these individuals in the jungle, as far as you know? [tape break]\n\nOkay. Now, would you run into these Aboriginal groups or tell me a little bit about these Aboriginals?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:134", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.887398626839827, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, they were dried fish that they brought from the market in town. And they would, of course, bring rice. And so they would have a little bit of rice left over from the night before for breakfast. We would stop once for lunch, but basically it was just a cup of tea with lots of condensed milk in it. And then have a reasonable size dinner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now in the areas you worked in the jungle, were there people there already living or is it not?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were relatively few people. This was an area that had been occupied by terrorists during the Malaysian emergency after World War II. Communists attacked the British in Malaysia and that emergency was declared over in 1955, but there were still remnants that were reported to be in the jungle. And so, for example, I was told I shouldn't wear jungle green outfit. I should report to a police station when I go into the jungle and then go out again. So they know that I'm working in the jungle. But the short answer was they were [inaudible]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever run into any of these individuals in the jungle, as far as you know? [tape break]\n\nOkay. Now, would you run into these Aboriginal groups or tell me a little bit about these Aboriginals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Uh, in Malaya there are proto-Malay groups, groups that are, uh, fairly primitive, live in remote areas of the jungle that have their own villages. There are different groups of them. Some are still hunters and gatherers. Others have, uh, villages where they will raise crops for a while, and then the soil gets exhausted and they'll move to other areas of the jungle. So from time to time we would run into these groups of, uh. They were shorter in stature than the Malays and always very friendly and always very interested in what we were doing. I can remember going camping near one of their villages and being invited into their longhouse, where they'd dance and sing and put on quite a show."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Somebody that I talked to in Malaya talked about longhouses. Is this is the area where the long houses were, where you were?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:136", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 9.874887363155363, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were relatively few people. This was an area that had been occupied by terrorists during the Malaysian emergency after World War II. Communists attacked the British in Malaysia and that emergency was declared over in 1955, but there were still remnants that were reported to be in the jungle. And so, for example, I was told I shouldn't wear jungle green outfit. I should report to a police station when I go into the jungle and then go out again. So they know that I'm working in the jungle. But the short answer was they were [inaudible]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever run into any of these individuals in the jungle, as far as you know? [tape break]\n\nOkay. Now, would you run into these Aboriginal groups or tell me a little bit about these Aboriginals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Uh, in Malaya there are proto-Malay groups, groups that are, uh, fairly primitive, live in remote areas of the jungle that have their own villages. There are different groups of them. Some are still hunters and gatherers. Others have, uh, villages where they will raise crops for a while, and then the soil gets exhausted and they'll move to other areas of the jungle. So from time to time we would run into these groups of, uh. They were shorter in stature than the Malays and always very friendly and always very interested in what we were doing. I can remember going camping near one of their villages and being invited into their longhouse, where they'd dance and sing and put on quite a show."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Somebody that I talked to in Malaya talked about longhouses. Is this is the area where the long houses were, where you were?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, there's longhouses, uh, among the, um, among these proto-Malay groups. But the long houses are more characteristic really of [inaudible]. Different groups than others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, describe this longhouse, whether this is about."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:138", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.749874847950402, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Uh, in Malaya there are proto-Malay groups, groups that are, uh, fairly primitive, live in remote areas of the jungle that have their own villages. There are different groups of them. Some are still hunters and gatherers. Others have, uh, villages where they will raise crops for a while, and then the soil gets exhausted and they'll move to other areas of the jungle. So from time to time we would run into these groups of, uh. They were shorter in stature than the Malays and always very friendly and always very interested in what we were doing. I can remember going camping near one of their villages and being invited into their longhouse, where they'd dance and sing and put on quite a show."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Somebody that I talked to in Malaya talked about longhouses. Is this is the area where the long houses were, where you were?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, there's longhouses, uh, among the, um, among these proto-Malay groups. But the long houses are more characteristic really of [inaudible]. Different groups than others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, describe this longhouse, whether this is about."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it's, uh, bamboo, uh, up on stilts. Uh, uh, bamboo floor. Bamboo sides. Kind of thatch roof. And, uh, it's, it's, uh, probably 25, 30 feet long and maybe about, uh, seven feet wide, something like that. And you would have a number of these longhouses that make up the village. The young men would live in one. Different extended families lived in one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, could you communicate with them? Do they speak the language you were taught?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:140", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.722083164389336, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, there's longhouses, uh, among the, um, among these proto-Malay groups. But the long houses are more characteristic really of [inaudible]. Different groups than others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, describe this longhouse, whether this is about."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it's, uh, bamboo, uh, up on stilts. Uh, uh, bamboo floor. Bamboo sides. Kind of thatch roof. And, uh, it's, it's, uh, probably 25, 30 feet long and maybe about, uh, seven feet wide, something like that. And you would have a number of these longhouses that make up the village. The young men would live in one. Different extended families lived in one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, could you communicate with them? Do they speak the language you were taught?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was, uh, I had my Malay laborers with me and they could speak, uh, Malay very well, which the Aboriginal groups also understood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what kind of, you said they'd invite you for a meal? What kind of meal would you have?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:142", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 10.802314627099262, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it's, uh, bamboo, uh, up on stilts. Uh, uh, bamboo floor. Bamboo sides. Kind of thatch roof. And, uh, it's, it's, uh, probably 25, 30 feet long and maybe about, uh, seven feet wide, something like that. And you would have a number of these longhouses that make up the village. The young men would live in one. Different extended families lived in one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, could you communicate with them? Do they speak the language you were taught?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was, uh, I had my Malay laborers with me and they could speak, uh, Malay very well, which the Aboriginal groups also understood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what kind of, you said they'd invite you for a meal? What kind of meal would you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we, we would have tea. We would always start off with tea. That's, you know, whenever you're invited into a home, the first question is, a cup of tea?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So hunter gatherers, they had tea."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:144", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.780349585665846, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was, uh, I had my Malay laborers with me and they could speak, uh, Malay very well, which the Aboriginal groups also understood."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what kind of, you said they'd invite you for a meal? What kind of meal would you have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we, we would have tea. We would always start off with tea. That's, you know, whenever you're invited into a home, the first question is, a cup of tea?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So hunter gatherers, they had tea."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they would have tea. And I would take along, although I didn't smoke. Well, actually, that's not entirely true. I would, uh, I did have these little short cigars if mosquitoes ever got to be a problem. A lot of cigar would keep the mosquitoes away. Would also knock me out for the night. But I would also take along some packs of cigarettes and pass them around to the Aborigines, and they were, they were just absolutely thrilled to have store bought cigarettes. They would roll their own tobacco cigarettes. So that was a form of making myself compatible with this, with these groups."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You say they roll their own. Was there tobacco in the jungle?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:146", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 7.5337217618509404, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we, we would have tea. We would always start off with tea. That's, you know, whenever you're invited into a home, the first question is, a cup of tea?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So hunter gatherers, they had tea."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they would have tea. And I would take along, although I didn't smoke. Well, actually, that's not entirely true. I would, uh, I did have these little short cigars if mosquitoes ever got to be a problem. A lot of cigar would keep the mosquitoes away. Would also knock me out for the night. But I would also take along some packs of cigarettes and pass them around to the Aborigines, and they were, they were just absolutely thrilled to have store bought cigarettes. They would roll their own tobacco cigarettes. So that was a form of making myself compatible with this, with these groups."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You say they roll their own. Was there tobacco in the jungle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, they would buy tobacco and then they would create cigarettes. But they were not, they were not Islamic. The Malays were Islamic. And so there were prohibitions against smoking for Muslims, the Malays. I remember asking one Aborigine if he was ever going to become a Malay. And he said, can't eat dog, can't eat guinea dog, can't eat pig. How can, man? In other words, he wasn't going to give up his diet that was forbidden."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, speaking of that, when you were with the Aboriginals, did you ever have dog as far as you know?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:148", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.259690846501044, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they would have tea. And I would take along, although I didn't smoke. Well, actually, that's not entirely true. I would, uh, I did have these little short cigars if mosquitoes ever got to be a problem. A lot of cigar would keep the mosquitoes away. Would also knock me out for the night. But I would also take along some packs of cigarettes and pass them around to the Aborigines, and they were, they were just absolutely thrilled to have store bought cigarettes. They would roll their own tobacco cigarettes. So that was a form of making myself compatible with this, with these groups."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You say they roll their own. Was there tobacco in the jungle?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, they would buy tobacco and then they would create cigarettes. But they were not, they were not Islamic. The Malays were Islamic. And so there were prohibitions against smoking for Muslims, the Malays. I remember asking one Aborigine if he was ever going to become a Malay. And he said, can't eat dog, can't eat guinea dog, can't eat pig. How can, man? In other words, he wasn't going to give up his diet that was forbidden."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, speaking of that, when you were with the Aboriginals, did you ever have dog as far as you know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not so far as I know. We didn't have, as I say, we didn't have big meals with camp and go in and meet the headman and be introduced to his family. When you're in the jungle, there's not much to do. So both for Aborigine and for itinerant soil surveyors, it wasn't a terrible way to spend a couple of hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, how often might this happen that you'd do that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:150", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.066323162778938, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, they would buy tobacco and then they would create cigarettes. But they were not, they were not Islamic. The Malays were Islamic. And so there were prohibitions against smoking for Muslims, the Malays. I remember asking one Aborigine if he was ever going to become a Malay. And he said, can't eat dog, can't eat guinea dog, can't eat pig. How can, man? In other words, he wasn't going to give up his diet that was forbidden."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, speaking of that, when you were with the Aboriginals, did you ever have dog as far as you know?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not so far as I know. We didn't have, as I say, we didn't have big meals with camp and go in and meet the headman and be introduced to his family. When you're in the jungle, there's not much to do. So both for Aborigine and for itinerant soil surveyors, it wasn't a terrible way to spend a couple of hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, how often might this happen that you'd do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, it only happened, uh, 2 or 3 times during the whole two years I was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, you were basically with your survey crew or soils crew."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:152", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.962581291976598, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not so far as I know. We didn't have, as I say, we didn't have big meals with camp and go in and meet the headman and be introduced to his family. When you're in the jungle, there's not much to do. So both for Aborigine and for itinerant soil surveyors, it wasn't a terrible way to spend a couple of hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, how often might this happen that you'd do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, it only happened, uh, 2 or 3 times during the whole two years I was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, you were basically with your survey crew or soils crew."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was with my Malay laborers, who I would pick up from the local Malay villages for particular expeditions to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they weren't government workers, so to speak."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:154", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.958423657751775, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, it only happened, uh, 2 or 3 times during the whole two years I was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, you were basically with your survey crew or soils crew."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was with my Malay laborers, who I would pick up from the local Malay villages for particular expeditions to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they weren't government workers, so to speak."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They weren't government, no. They were, they were casual laborers that when we're planning. But they were from the same village and so got to know a number of these laborers that would carry equipment, they would carry camping gear, they would carry expedition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would they lay down these lines too for you then?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:156", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.064915175279749, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was with my Malay laborers, who I would pick up from the local Malay villages for particular expeditions to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they weren't government workers, so to speak."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They weren't government, no. They were, they were casual laborers that when we're planning. But they were from the same village and so got to know a number of these laborers that would carry equipment, they would carry camping gear, they would carry expedition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would they lay down these lines too for you then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they would do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there much difficulty in training them to do this particular task?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:158", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 12.294350194755276, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They weren't government, no. They were, they were casual laborers that when we're planning. But they were from the same village and so got to know a number of these laborers that would carry equipment, they would carry camping gear, they would carry expedition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would they lay down these lines too for you then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they would do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there much difficulty in training them to do this particular task?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "By the time I got there, they were all trained to do that. And then there was the, what, the old man who was basically in charge of all the laborers. One for 5 or 6. [inaudible] Six people. He arranged it. He would also arrange for the cutting of, traverse of, prior to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, you mentioned the rains. Did they come almost daily or was there a monsoon season?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:160", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.327055771950308, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, they would do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there much difficulty in training them to do this particular task?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "By the time I got there, they were all trained to do that. And then there was the, what, the old man who was basically in charge of all the laborers. One for 5 or 6. [inaudible] Six people. He arranged it. He would also arrange for the cutting of, traverse of, prior to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, you mentioned the rains. Did they come almost daily or was there a monsoon season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there were monsoon seasons. There was a, I think a southeast monsoon and a northwest monsoon. And so Malaysia actually had twoc, or Malaya had two rainy periods, one in, a small one in November. And then a more major one in late May, early June."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would that affect your work at all?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:162", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.47450641327812, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "By the time I got there, they were all trained to do that. And then there was the, what, the old man who was basically in charge of all the laborers. One for 5 or 6. [inaudible] Six people. He arranged it. He would also arrange for the cutting of, traverse of, prior to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, you mentioned the rains. Did they come almost daily or was there a monsoon season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there were monsoon seasons. There was a, I think a southeast monsoon and a northwest monsoon. And so Malaysia actually had twoc, or Malaya had two rainy periods, one in, a small one in November. And then a more major one in late May, early June."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would that affect your work at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We usually arrange so that we didn't go during that time. Just because it was not pleasant to be rained on while you were trying to make notes on quality and so forth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what would you typically do then during the monsoon times, go on vacation or?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:164", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.74945157030902, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, there were monsoon seasons. There was a, I think a southeast monsoon and a northwest monsoon. And so Malaysia actually had twoc, or Malaya had two rainy periods, one in, a small one in November. And then a more major one in late May, early June."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would that affect your work at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We usually arrange so that we didn't go during that time. Just because it was not pleasant to be rained on while you were trying to make notes on quality and so forth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what would you typically do then during the monsoon times, go on vacation or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, there was always plenty of work to do in the office after you collected this information. Our job was to create a soil survey, which included a map and report on the kinds of soils that we encountered. Part of our job then was to relate what we were seeing to what other soil surveyors were seeing in other parts of Malaya. So the soil correlator would get two or 3 or 4 of us from different parts of the country together, and we would compare notes. We would look at the same soil profile and talk about whether it's similar or dissimilar from things that these other soil surveyors are seeing happening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So would you actually physically get together with these others?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:166", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 14.166057300343356, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We usually arrange so that we didn't go during that time. Just because it was not pleasant to be rained on while you were trying to make notes on quality and so forth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what would you typically do then during the monsoon times, go on vacation or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, there was always plenty of work to do in the office after you collected this information. Our job was to create a soil survey, which included a map and report on the kinds of soils that we encountered. Part of our job then was to relate what we were seeing to what other soil surveyors were seeing in other parts of Malaya. So the soil correlator would get two or 3 or 4 of us from different parts of the country together, and we would compare notes. We would look at the same soil profile and talk about whether it's similar or dissimilar from things that these other soil surveyors are seeing happening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So would you actually physically get together with these others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Kuala Lumpur then, would you all meet up?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:168", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 14.628952555937062, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, there was always plenty of work to do in the office after you collected this information. Our job was to create a soil survey, which included a map and report on the kinds of soils that we encountered. Part of our job then was to relate what we were seeing to what other soil surveyors were seeing in other parts of Malaya. So the soil correlator would get two or 3 or 4 of us from different parts of the country together, and we would compare notes. We would look at the same soil profile and talk about whether it's similar or dissimilar from things that these other soil surveyors are seeing happening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So would you actually physically get together with these others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Kuala Lumpur then, would you all meet up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Kuala Lumpur, but sometimes in the districts that other soil surveyors were doing, Kuantan on the east coast, and then taking a trip down there. And we would actually then go out into the rural area around that town and look at the soils that that person was doing. We went down to Johor, 2 or 3 of us, and looked at the soils that were being. The idea, of course, was to come up with a uniform categorization of the different soils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now these other soils people, were any other of them Peace Corps, or were you the only Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:170", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.809947284374513, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Kuala Lumpur then, would you all meet up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Kuala Lumpur, but sometimes in the districts that other soil surveyors were doing, Kuantan on the east coast, and then taking a trip down there. And we would actually then go out into the rural area around that town and look at the soils that that person was doing. We went down to Johor, 2 or 3 of us, and looked at the soils that were being. The idea, of course, was to come up with a uniform categorization of the different soils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now these other soils people, were any other of them Peace Corps, or were you the only Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was the only Peace Corps volunteer. There were half a dozen, uh, Malaysian trained soil surveyors, and there were two Colombo Plan sort of surveyors. Colombo Plan being the British, well, actually the British, the British Commonwealth, uh, aid workers. So there were two people from New Zealand. I think there was one from Australia. That's all I can remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now when you were out in the jungle, other than out there doing your work, would there be any leisure time? What would you do with any leisure time you had out there, or was there really wasn't any?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:172", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.011052538193903, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Kuala Lumpur, but sometimes in the districts that other soil surveyors were doing, Kuantan on the east coast, and then taking a trip down there. And we would actually then go out into the rural area around that town and look at the soils that that person was doing. We went down to Johor, 2 or 3 of us, and looked at the soils that were being. The idea, of course, was to come up with a uniform categorization of the different soils."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now these other soils people, were any other of them Peace Corps, or were you the only Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was the only Peace Corps volunteer. There were half a dozen, uh, Malaysian trained soil surveyors, and there were two Colombo Plan sort of surveyors. Colombo Plan being the British, well, actually the British, the British Commonwealth, uh, aid workers. So there were two people from New Zealand. I think there was one from Australia. That's all I can remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now when you were out in the jungle, other than out there doing your work, would there be any leisure time? What would you do with any leisure time you had out there, or was there really wasn't any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no leisure time when you were in the jungle. I mean, either you were mapping soils or you were resting at night. And so you would, uh, the first thing in the morning is that you put on your wet socks and wet boots and continue to, to map until middle or late afternoon and stop."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So things just wouldn't dry there for you in the jungles?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:174", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.234502820215447, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was the only Peace Corps volunteer. There were half a dozen, uh, Malaysian trained soil surveyors, and there were two Colombo Plan sort of surveyors. Colombo Plan being the British, well, actually the British, the British Commonwealth, uh, aid workers. So there were two people from New Zealand. I think there was one from Australia. That's all I can remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now when you were out in the jungle, other than out there doing your work, would there be any leisure time? What would you do with any leisure time you had out there, or was there really wasn't any?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no leisure time when you were in the jungle. I mean, either you were mapping soils or you were resting at night. And so you would, uh, the first thing in the morning is that you put on your wet socks and wet boots and continue to, to map until middle or late afternoon and stop."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So things just wouldn't dry there for you in the jungles?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There's no way that things would dry. There was plenty of water though. The nice thing was that there were streams. And so after a hot day of going through the jungle, you could cool off by sitting, usually you'd do this for a very big stream, so sit down and throw water over your head. No, they were nice and cool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I could picture health problems, rashes, whatever from all that. Did you want to say anything about that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:176", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.482780911350496, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was no leisure time when you were in the jungle. I mean, either you were mapping soils or you were resting at night. And so you would, uh, the first thing in the morning is that you put on your wet socks and wet boots and continue to, to map until middle or late afternoon and stop."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So things just wouldn't dry there for you in the jungles?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There's no way that things would dry. There was plenty of water though. The nice thing was that there were streams. And so after a hot day of going through the jungle, you could cool off by sitting, usually you'd do this for a very big stream, so sit down and throw water over your head. No, they were nice and cool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I could picture health problems, rashes, whatever from all that. Did you want to say anything about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't have a problem with that. I was, I think, uh, as healthy if not healthier during the two years that I was in the Peace Corps at any time in my life. Of course we received, uh, gamma globulin injections. We had anti-malarials that we took. We had penicillin or something. If ever it felt like we were getting some intestinal problems, we had pills that we could take and I never had a problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you very religiously boil your water?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:178", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.758645457056106, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There's no way that things would dry. There was plenty of water though. The nice thing was that there were streams. And so after a hot day of going through the jungle, you could cool off by sitting, usually you'd do this for a very big stream, so sit down and throw water over your head. No, they were nice and cool."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I could picture health problems, rashes, whatever from all that. Did you want to say anything about that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't have a problem with that. I was, I think, uh, as healthy if not healthier during the two years that I was in the Peace Corps at any time in my life. Of course we received, uh, gamma globulin injections. We had anti-malarials that we took. We had penicillin or something. If ever it felt like we were getting some intestinal problems, we had pills that we could take and I never had a problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you very religiously boil your water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, water would. Well, I would take tea. Everybody drank tea. And of course, with tea, even though the water was probably full of critters, by the time it was boiled it was certainly safe to drink. Uh, and then when we were in town, there was soda pop. There was Cokes, and there was even beer. [tape break]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, now it was Muslim, but they had beer there also?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:180", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.06516161895123, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't have a problem with that. I was, I think, uh, as healthy if not healthier during the two years that I was in the Peace Corps at any time in my life. Of course we received, uh, gamma globulin injections. We had anti-malarials that we took. We had penicillin or something. If ever it felt like we were getting some intestinal problems, we had pills that we could take and I never had a problem."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you very religiously boil your water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, water would. Well, I would take tea. Everybody drank tea. And of course, with tea, even though the water was probably full of critters, by the time it was boiled it was certainly safe to drink. Uh, and then when we were in town, there was soda pop. There was Cokes, and there was even beer. [tape break]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, now it was Muslim, but they had beer there also?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. The center parts of the towns were always Chinese. The Malays kind of lived in compounds and villages around the edges of the town, but alcohol was available. Hard liquor. I'd get, I'd get Budweiser beer in the local grocery store, which was, which was fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they have their own home brew too that they made out there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:182", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.516846243279144, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, water would. Well, I would take tea. Everybody drank tea. And of course, with tea, even though the water was probably full of critters, by the time it was boiled it was certainly safe to drink. Uh, and then when we were in town, there was soda pop. There was Cokes, and there was even beer. [tape break]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, now it was Muslim, but they had beer there also?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. The center parts of the towns were always Chinese. The Malays kind of lived in compounds and villages around the edges of the town, but alcohol was available. Hard liquor. I'd get, I'd get Budweiser beer in the local grocery store, which was, which was fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they have their own home brew too that they made out there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There, uh, yeah, there were rice wines. There were, uh, there were local liquors that would be created that very often the truck drivers would drink, and it was not infrequent to read the morning newspaper about trucks running off the road, particularly in this area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever try any of that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:184", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 16.129829159199048, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. The center parts of the towns were always Chinese. The Malays kind of lived in compounds and villages around the edges of the town, but alcohol was available. Hard liquor. I'd get, I'd get Budweiser beer in the local grocery store, which was, which was fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they have their own home brew too that they made out there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There, uh, yeah, there were rice wines. There were, uh, there were local liquors that would be created that very often the truck drivers would drink, and it was not infrequent to read the morning newspaper about trucks running off the road, particularly in this area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever try any of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I probably did. I guess I would have to say that it left no impression on me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now when you're out in the jungle, then you wouldn't particularly run to town. Maybe these Aboriginal groups, that'd be about it. I assume that there are. You mentioned earlier about taking the train. You would take the train to your site sometime?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:186", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 14.588699065776717, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There, uh, yeah, there were rice wines. There were, uh, there were local liquors that would be created that very often the truck drivers would drink, and it was not infrequent to read the morning newspaper about trucks running off the road, particularly in this area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever try any of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I probably did. I guess I would have to say that it left no impression on me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now when you're out in the jungle, then you wouldn't particularly run to town. Maybe these Aboriginal groups, that'd be about it. I assume that there are. You mentioned earlier about taking the train. You would take the train to your site sometime?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. There is a train line. The main line in Malaysia goes right through the center of the peninsula. And although the train didn't go through, uh, the town that I was in, uh, about, uh, ten, 15 miles away, there was a town that had a train station. And when we would lay out the survey lines that we were using, they would go east and west. The train would go north and south, so we would get off the train at, and I was, I was entitled actually to pull the cord to stop the train. The train would stop and then we would pick up our traverse line, which would usually then take us to a river five or 6 or 10 miles away. And then our boatman, I also had a boat and a boatman, 45 horsepower outboard motor. He would meet us and take us back to the town where he kept the boat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Interesting. So you would take the train to a designated spot and know roughly where the river was in conjunction to us. The boatmen would be there, and you could take the train to another spot later on, and the boatmen would meet you up there. You always go back by boat to the town?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:188", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.098554517529687, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think I probably did. I guess I would have to say that it left no impression on me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now when you're out in the jungle, then you wouldn't particularly run to town. Maybe these Aboriginal groups, that'd be about it. I assume that there are. You mentioned earlier about taking the train. You would take the train to your site sometime?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. There is a train line. The main line in Malaysia goes right through the center of the peninsula. And although the train didn't go through, uh, the town that I was in, uh, about, uh, ten, 15 miles away, there was a town that had a train station. And when we would lay out the survey lines that we were using, they would go east and west. The train would go north and south, so we would get off the train at, and I was, I was entitled actually to pull the cord to stop the train. The train would stop and then we would pick up our traverse line, which would usually then take us to a river five or 6 or 10 miles away. And then our boatman, I also had a boat and a boatman, 45 horsepower outboard motor. He would meet us and take us back to the town where he kept the boat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Interesting. So you would take the train to a designated spot and know roughly where the river was in conjunction to us. The boatmen would be there, and you could take the train to another spot later on, and the boatmen would meet you up there. You always go back by boat to the town?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we would usually do 1 or 2 lines at a time. And if there's a long line, we would just get off the train and then go for 7 or 8 miles. Have the boatman pick us up and then we would go back to Raub until the next, next time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So then you saved a lot of your office work for the monsoon season?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:192", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 16.417968540160103, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we would usually do 1 or 2 lines at a time. And if there's a long line, we would just get off the train and then go for 7 or 8 miles. Have the boatman pick us up and then we would go back to Raub until the next, next time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So then you saved a lot of your office work for the monsoon season?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. There was a lot of, always a lot of this soil correlation work, writing up notes and actually doing the mapping after you identified the different soils at particular spots. And look at the map and decide the extent of the good soil. What's the extent of the bad soil? And then provide that map to Kuala Lumpur. And that was seen as necessary because the Department of Agriculture could not get loans for moving these people into the interior of the country unless they had a soil map to prove that the soils could support agriculture. Where it happens, people do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm curious. My memory is that the soils really in a, in a rain forest can't really support. Perhaps but that's not true. There are some that could support a number of crops or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tree crops are supported by tropical soils. There are some that are richer than others, depending on the underlying parent material, the kinds of rocks they came from. But generally it's true that if you simply plant an annual crop, including rice or cotton, the soil would be quickly depleted. But you can plant trees that take, uh, like a rubber tree might take 6 or 7 years before it grows tall enough to be tapped, but it both holds the soil in place and then gradually takes the nutrients, the leaf from the trees. Fertility and soil. In Malaysia, as other places, government programs that fertilizer and those kinds of tree crops. Oil palm is another."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, when you were in town, uh, again, besides work, was there anything to do with your leisure time? Like you mentioned something about a movie show in town or something like that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:194", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.019965044622335, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. There was a lot of, always a lot of this soil correlation work, writing up notes and actually doing the mapping after you identified the different soils at particular spots. And look at the map and decide the extent of the good soil. What's the extent of the bad soil? And then provide that map to Kuala Lumpur. And that was seen as necessary because the Department of Agriculture could not get loans for moving these people into the interior of the country unless they had a soil map to prove that the soils could support agriculture. Where it happens, people do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm curious. My memory is that the soils really in a, in a rain forest can't really support. Perhaps but that's not true. There are some that could support a number of crops or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tree crops are supported by tropical soils. There are some that are richer than others, depending on the underlying parent material, the kinds of rocks they came from. But generally it's true that if you simply plant an annual crop, including rice or cotton, the soil would be quickly depleted. But you can plant trees that take, uh, like a rubber tree might take 6 or 7 years before it grows tall enough to be tapped, but it both holds the soil in place and then gradually takes the nutrients, the leaf from the trees. Fertility and soil. In Malaysia, as other places, government programs that fertilizer and those kinds of tree crops. Oil palm is another."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, when you were in town, uh, again, besides work, was there anything to do with your leisure time? Like you mentioned something about a movie show in town or something like that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were three movie theaters in town. Occasionally they would have an English picture. There was a lot of, there were a lot of Indian Hindi pictures, a lot of Chinese pictures."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how might you spend some of your leisure time in town?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:196", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 17.799961160691485, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tree crops are supported by tropical soils. There are some that are richer than others, depending on the underlying parent material, the kinds of rocks they came from. But generally it's true that if you simply plant an annual crop, including rice or cotton, the soil would be quickly depleted. But you can plant trees that take, uh, like a rubber tree might take 6 or 7 years before it grows tall enough to be tapped, but it both holds the soil in place and then gradually takes the nutrients, the leaf from the trees. Fertility and soil. In Malaysia, as other places, government programs that fertilizer and those kinds of tree crops. Oil palm is another."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, when you were in town, uh, again, besides work, was there anything to do with your leisure time? Like you mentioned something about a movie show in town or something like that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were three movie theaters in town. Occasionally they would have an English picture. There was a lot of, there were a lot of Indian Hindi pictures, a lot of Chinese pictures."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how might you spend some of your leisure time in town?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I, uh, I read a lot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Peace Corps locker type?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:198", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.666623511879425, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were three movie theaters in town. Occasionally they would have an English picture. There was a lot of, there were a lot of Indian Hindi pictures, a lot of Chinese pictures."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how might you spend some of your leisure time in town?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I, uh, I read a lot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Peace Corps locker type?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we had a book locker, and, uh. Socialized. I would get together every evening when I was in town with half a dozen other junior government officers. We would arrange then as a group to take our meals at one of the local restaurants. It was sort of a set meal kind of arrangement. We didn't know ahead of time what it consisted of, but it would always have plenty of rice, soup. We would have some sort of meat and some sort of vegetable. So we would get together and like clockwork, the local people used to say. Then walk, then up and back the two blocks of the main street of town afterwards, after we had our meals, then head off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now would they speak English or Malay?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:200", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 20.74069279097714, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I, uh, I read a lot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Peace Corps locker type?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we had a book locker, and, uh. Socialized. I would get together every evening when I was in town with half a dozen other junior government officers. We would arrange then as a group to take our meals at one of the local restaurants. It was sort of a set meal kind of arrangement. We didn't know ahead of time what it consisted of, but it would always have plenty of rice, soup. We would have some sort of meat and some sort of vegetable. So we would get together and like clockwork, the local people used to say. Then walk, then up and back the two blocks of the main street of town afterwards, after we had our meals, then head off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now would they speak English or Malay?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They all spoke English."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any particular strong friendships that arose for you out of that group?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:202", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 20.8229919899746, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we had a book locker, and, uh. Socialized. I would get together every evening when I was in town with half a dozen other junior government officers. We would arrange then as a group to take our meals at one of the local restaurants. It was sort of a set meal kind of arrangement. We didn't know ahead of time what it consisted of, but it would always have plenty of rice, soup. We would have some sort of meat and some sort of vegetable. So we would get together and like clockwork, the local people used to say. Then walk, then up and back the two blocks of the main street of town afterwards, after we had our meals, then head off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now would they speak English or Malay?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They all spoke English."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any particular strong friendships that arose for you out of that group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had a Chinese assistant who was very good, very ambitious, young fellow. After the completion of our survey, I recommended him for a Fulbright scholarship, which he got. He went to the University of Hawaii, eventually got a PhD. Then he went back and headed up an agriculture college."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you had any contact with him since then?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:204", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 22.025546655527332, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They all spoke English."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any particular strong friendships that arose for you out of that group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had a Chinese assistant who was very good, very ambitious, young fellow. After the completion of our survey, I recommended him for a Fulbright scholarship, which he got. He went to the University of Hawaii, eventually got a PhD. Then he went back and headed up an agriculture college."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you had any contact with him since then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not directly. I'm aware of what work that he has been doing in Malaysia. He's aware of some of the subsequent work that I have done. But we haven't gotten down, sat together and compared notes on previous years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any other events from the first year that come to mind?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:206", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 20.028385172808147, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had a Chinese assistant who was very good, very ambitious, young fellow. After the completion of our survey, I recommended him for a Fulbright scholarship, which he got. He went to the University of Hawaii, eventually got a PhD. Then he went back and headed up an agriculture college."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you had any contact with him since then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not directly. I'm aware of what work that he has been doing in Malaysia. He's aware of some of the subsequent work that I have done. But we haven't gotten down, sat together and compared notes on previous years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any other events from the first year that come to mind?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, uh, as I mentioned, Raub was a fairly pleasant place to live. Uh, occasionally dignitaries would come to town. Vice Prime Minister came to town, Tumrasa, at one time. And so all the government officers were lined up to meet him, myself included. So it was, uh, an interesting experience.\n\nUh, I arranged for a helicopter to land on town green one time. The Royal Malaysian Air Force would sometimes provide helicopters to soil surveyors who wanted to get a bird's eye view of the area that they're going into before they actually do that. I remember hearing that that was possible, so I requested that be done. And so this Royal Malaysian Army helicopter, uh, came swooping into town. All the kids came running, uh, to the town square where they play rugby and cricket. And my status in town went up when they saw that I ran to get on and then after a few hours of flying around, it brought me back and I got off. It was an interesting experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Besides being an interesting experience, uh, was it helpful to you in your job to do that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:208", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 18.92042796978683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not directly. I'm aware of what work that he has been doing in Malaysia. He's aware of some of the subsequent work that I have done. But we haven't gotten down, sat together and compared notes on previous years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there any other events from the first year that come to mind?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, uh, as I mentioned, Raub was a fairly pleasant place to live. Uh, occasionally dignitaries would come to town. Vice Prime Minister came to town, Tumrasa, at one time. And so all the government officers were lined up to meet him, myself included. So it was, uh, an interesting experience.\n\nUh, I arranged for a helicopter to land on town green one time. The Royal Malaysian Air Force would sometimes provide helicopters to soil surveyors who wanted to get a bird's eye view of the area that they're going into before they actually do that. I remember hearing that that was possible, so I requested that be done. And so this Royal Malaysian Army helicopter, uh, came swooping into town. All the kids came running, uh, to the town square where they play rugby and cricket. And my status in town went up when they saw that I ran to get on and then after a few hours of flying around, it brought me back and I got off. It was an interesting experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Besides being an interesting experience, uh, was it helpful to you in your job to do that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I could have, I could have done my job without doing that. But on the other hand, it was, it's, uh, it's nice to have that opportunity. Remember that my assignment was a little different than most Peace Corps assignments, in the sense that I had at my disposal a Land Rover and an office and as many casual laborers as I wanted to hire. There was a fair amount of work in keeping track of all the expenditures, gasoline, things of that sort. But it also provided a great deal of mobility in terms of getting around. I remember driving the Land Rover one Christmas to Penang to meet other Peace Corps volunteers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How far away was that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:212", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.66719502442818, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I could have, I could have done my job without doing that. But on the other hand, it was, it's, uh, it's nice to have that opportunity. Remember that my assignment was a little different than most Peace Corps assignments, in the sense that I had at my disposal a Land Rover and an office and as many casual laborers as I wanted to hire. There was a fair amount of work in keeping track of all the expenditures, gasoline, things of that sort. But it also provided a great deal of mobility in terms of getting around. I remember driving the Land Rover one Christmas to Penang to meet other Peace Corps volunteers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How far away was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was about, uh, again, it was probably about 50 or 60 miles, but it was through the mountains, so it would take 3 or 4 hours to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, you mentioned with some of the local breweries that some of the truck drivers would end up going off the mountain. Was it a little bit dangerous driving around there with some of these drivers on the road?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yeah. Although you, if you're used to mountain driving or you get used to mountain driving, I don't think it's any danger, more dangerous than driving in traffic in Kuala Lumpur, in fact, I think of that as being more dangerous. I was in a big old diesel Land Rover and when they saw this Westerner driving a Land Rover, these little mini cars gave me plenty of room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were there many mini, heh, many mini cars?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:214", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.7413278049202, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was about, uh, again, it was probably about 50 or 60 miles, but it was through the mountains, so it would take 3 or 4 hours to go."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, you mentioned with some of the local breweries that some of the truck drivers would end up going off the mountain. Was it a little bit dangerous driving around there with some of these drivers on the road?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yeah. Although you, if you're used to mountain driving or you get used to mountain driving, I don't think it's any danger, more dangerous than driving in traffic in Kuala Lumpur, in fact, I think of that as being more dangerous. I was in a big old diesel Land Rover and when they saw this Westerner driving a Land Rover, these little mini cars gave me plenty of room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were there many mini, heh, many mini cars?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were in Kuala Lumpur. There were quite a few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about out where you were, were there much?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:216", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 23.045919783244667, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yeah. Although you, if you're used to mountain driving or you get used to mountain driving, I don't think it's any danger, more dangerous than driving in traffic in Kuala Lumpur, in fact, I think of that as being more dangerous. I was in a big old diesel Land Rover and when they saw this Westerner driving a Land Rover, these little mini cars gave me plenty of room."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were there many mini, heh, many mini cars?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were in Kuala Lumpur. There were quite a few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about out where you were, were there much?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not much. I mean, there's not certainly, wasn't certainly much traffic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you would drive yourself, you didn't have a driver particularly? Or both?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:218", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 10, "return_to_go": 25.60657753693852, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were in Kuala Lumpur. There were quite a few."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about out where you were, were there much?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not much. I mean, there's not certainly, wasn't certainly much traffic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you would drive yourself, you didn't have a driver particularly? Or both?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did have a driver, for example, when we would send laborers to go into the jungle to cut through the jungle. We had a driver take those people to a point where they'd be dropped. He dropped them off. If they were coming out on the road where they could be picked up. But I drove myself to, say, meetings down in Kuala Lumpur or any other occasion where I needed to get from A to B."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about, uh, any vacations or other travel you did while you were over there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:220", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 17.340641707709466, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not much. I mean, there's not certainly, wasn't certainly much traffic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you would drive yourself, you didn't have a driver particularly? Or both?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did have a driver, for example, when we would send laborers to go into the jungle to cut through the jungle. We had a driver take those people to a point where they'd be dropped. He dropped them off. If they were coming out on the road where they could be picked up. But I drove myself to, say, meetings down in Kuala Lumpur or any other occasion where I needed to get from A to B."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How about, uh, any vacations or other travel you did while you were over there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, the Peace Corps offered a, uh, vacation allowance, which you could only collect if you took a vacation. Malaysia was kind of nice in the sense that allowance was generally a little bit higher than the neighboring countries because the standard of living was a bit higher. So myself and two other surveyors, actually four surveyors, Peace Corps volunteers, and I, uh, bought an airline ticket for what was called the Great Circle Tour, where the plane would take off from Kuala Lumpur. Fly us to Bangkok, then fly us to Hong Kong, fly us to Manila. And then to Jesselton, which is called Kota Kinabalu now. Then Kuching, Singapore, and back to Kuala Lumpur for less than what we could get in terms of our allowance.\n\nSo in addition to traveling to each of those cities and sampling the beer in each of those cities, we took the train from Bangkok to Angkor Wat, which was an interesting experience, in part because all U.S. diplomatic relations with Cambodia had ceased at that time. So if we had gotten into trouble, we would have really been in trouble. But it was, it was an interesting experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk a little bit about that."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:232", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.307501129400002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Second year changed in part because there were other volunteers that came to town, three or four teachers. And so, um, holidays, and there were a lot of holidays because you had Christian holidays, you had Malay Islamic holidays, and you had Hindu holidays because a portion of the population was [inaudible]. So that having other Americans there and nearby was a pleasant experience. We would get together for holidays, have a picnic or have a meal. That I didn't have the first year that I was there. So long range."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so, again, that shift felt better having others around, other Americans in there. I almost wonder if you were the Lone Ranger. Well, that's kind of almost an elite position in a sense."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yeah, I remember, uh, the couple showing up in Raub and actually starting to work. Uh, maybe I was out in the jungle and coming back and sort of finding them there. I had no idea that they were going to be there, but it was certainly pleasant. Nice to have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so did your work change much at all during the second year or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. It was hectic, just kind of finishing everything up at the end of the second year, the end of this survey, and getting the maps drawn and getting the report written. So as I mentioned, there was a lot of paperwork associated. And then shutting down the office and sending equipment off to other surveying offices in other parts of the country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, looking back over your time, were there any satisfactions or regrets that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:234", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.786112366000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yeah, I remember, uh, the couple showing up in Raub and actually starting to work. Uh, maybe I was out in the jungle and coming back and sort of finding them there. I had no idea that they were going to be there, but it was certainly pleasant. Nice to have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so did your work change much at all during the second year or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. It was hectic, just kind of finishing everything up at the end of the second year, the end of this survey, and getting the maps drawn and getting the report written. So as I mentioned, there was a lot of paperwork associated. And then shutting down the office and sending equipment off to other surveying offices in other parts of the country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, looking back over your time, were there any satisfactions or regrets that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, certainly it was a very satisfying experience for me as an individual at that age, to be thrown into an environment where I was completely on my own, but where I had a whole host of resources with which to work. It gave me a sense of confidence that indeed I could, I could do that. And I would have 20 or 30 laborers working in the jungle at a time. I never had that many people working for me since. Uh, it was, uh, it was a time of personal growth and an opportunity to do what I had expected that I would do, and that is to in some sense test my own limits and working in that kind environment and environment that wasn't just."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, no, what kind of situation would it be where you'd have up to 30 laborers working for you?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:236", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.429013740000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. It was hectic, just kind of finishing everything up at the end of the second year, the end of this survey, and getting the maps drawn and getting the report written. So as I mentioned, there was a lot of paperwork associated. And then shutting down the office and sending equipment off to other surveying offices in other parts of the country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, looking back over your time, were there any satisfactions or regrets that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, certainly it was a very satisfying experience for me as an individual at that age, to be thrown into an environment where I was completely on my own, but where I had a whole host of resources with which to work. It gave me a sense of confidence that indeed I could, I could do that. And I would have 20 or 30 laborers working in the jungle at a time. I never had that many people working for me since. Uh, it was, uh, it was a time of personal growth and an opportunity to do what I had expected that I would do, and that is to in some sense test my own limits and working in that kind environment and environment that wasn't just."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, no, what kind of situation would it be where you'd have up to 30 laborers working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, if I, if some were out cutting traverses, maybe I would have two teams of eight each and then I would go in on one of the lines with 8 or 10 people. Then of course I would have the boatman and the driver and the office boys and the others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess part of the question is, has to do with pluses and minuses of, of work and relationships with the people in the country. Were there any pluses or minuses, that kind of thing, with those?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:238", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 17.143348600000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, certainly it was a very satisfying experience for me as an individual at that age, to be thrown into an environment where I was completely on my own, but where I had a whole host of resources with which to work. It gave me a sense of confidence that indeed I could, I could do that. And I would have 20 or 30 laborers working in the jungle at a time. I never had that many people working for me since. Uh, it was, uh, it was a time of personal growth and an opportunity to do what I had expected that I would do, and that is to in some sense test my own limits and working in that kind environment and environment that wasn't just."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, no, what kind of situation would it be where you'd have up to 30 laborers working for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, if I, if some were out cutting traverses, maybe I would have two teams of eight each and then I would go in on one of the lines with 8 or 10 people. Then of course I would have the boatman and the driver and the office boys and the others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess part of the question is, has to do with pluses and minuses of, of work and relationships with the people in the country. Were there any pluses or minuses, that kind of thing, with those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The minus was, of course, socially one of the things that was very clear, and I think what I learned about the Peace Corps volunteer that had been there ahead of me, that had developed a kind of a liaison with a young local girl, was that it was very, very difficult for locals to date Westerners. Uh, a young lady, uh, doing so would, uh, after the Westerner left, uh, none of the locals would ever date her again. And so it occurred to me that, in fact, I really did not want to look for a kind of a relationship with that would be potentially that, uh, that damaging."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you find out about that? [inaudible]"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:240", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.937054000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, if I, if some were out cutting traverses, maybe I would have two teams of eight each and then I would go in on one of the lines with 8 or 10 people. Then of course I would have the boatman and the driver and the office boys and the others."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess part of the question is, has to do with pluses and minuses of, of work and relationships with the people in the country. Were there any pluses or minuses, that kind of thing, with those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The minus was, of course, socially one of the things that was very clear, and I think what I learned about the Peace Corps volunteer that had been there ahead of me, that had developed a kind of a liaison with a young local girl, was that it was very, very difficult for locals to date Westerners. Uh, a young lady, uh, doing so would, uh, after the Westerner left, uh, none of the locals would ever date her again. And so it occurred to me that, in fact, I really did not want to look for a kind of a relationship with that would be potentially that, uh, that damaging."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you find out about that? [inaudible]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, partly because, uh, again, there was this Peace Corps volunteer that had been there ahead of me. Things have not worked out. Secondly, the one of the teachers I mentioned, there was a single teacher, taught shop industrial arts in the local school, who did develop the liaison and eventually married one of the local girls. But it was very clear that her future was bleak if he'd leave her."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Then overall question here is to evaluate your service in light of the three goals of the Peace Corps. The first one, to provide technical assistance where requested. How would you evaluate your service within it?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:242", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 19.930060000000005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The minus was, of course, socially one of the things that was very clear, and I think what I learned about the Peace Corps volunteer that had been there ahead of me, that had developed a kind of a liaison with a young local girl, was that it was very, very difficult for locals to date Westerners. Uh, a young lady, uh, doing so would, uh, after the Westerner left, uh, none of the locals would ever date her again. And so it occurred to me that, in fact, I really did not want to look for a kind of a relationship with that would be potentially that, uh, that damaging."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you find out about that? [inaudible]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, partly because, uh, again, there was this Peace Corps volunteer that had been there ahead of me. Things have not worked out. Secondly, the one of the teachers I mentioned, there was a single teacher, taught shop industrial arts in the local school, who did develop the liaison and eventually married one of the local girls. But it was very clear that her future was bleak if he'd leave her."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Then overall question here is to evaluate your service in light of the three goals of the Peace Corps. The first one, to provide technical assistance where requested. How would you evaluate your service within it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I certainly feel that I provided technical assistance. I was asked to do a technical job to create a map, and I accomplished that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The second one, to help promote better understanding of Americans by people served."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:244", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 21.033400000000004, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, partly because, uh, again, there was this Peace Corps volunteer that had been there ahead of me. Things have not worked out. Secondly, the one of the teachers I mentioned, there was a single teacher, taught shop industrial arts in the local school, who did develop the liaison and eventually married one of the local girls. But it was very clear that her future was bleak if he'd leave her."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Then overall question here is to evaluate your service in light of the three goals of the Peace Corps. The first one, to provide technical assistance where requested. How would you evaluate your service within it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I certainly feel that I provided technical assistance. I was asked to do a technical job to create a map, and I accomplished that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The second one, to help promote better understanding of Americans by people served."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People that I interacted with, I think I developed a rapport with junior government officers. I think many of the people were puzzled as to why an American would come and work under those conditions, and not be paid. Of course, we'd get an allowance for that. That's, uh, or the only really rational thing was that I was a spy. They'd be convinced that either I was looking for gold in the hills, because Raub had been a mining town, or that I was spying. But nevertheless, at the end of two years, they thought that I was looking for gold, I had found it. If I was a spy, I was a good spy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, then for the third goal, to help promote better understanding of other peoples by Americans."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00202:246", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 18.926000000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I certainly feel that I provided technical assistance. I was asked to do a technical job to create a map, and I accomplished that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The second one, to help promote better understanding of Americans by people served."}, {"role": "user", "content": "People that I interacted with, I think I developed a rapport with junior government officers. I think many of the people were puzzled as to why an American would come and work under those conditions, and not be paid. Of course, we'd get an allowance for that. That's, uh, or the only really rational thing was that I was a spy. They'd be convinced that either I was looking for gold in the hills, because Raub had been a mining town, or that I was spying. But nevertheless, at the end of two years, they thought that I was looking for gold, I had found it. If I was a spy, I was a good spy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay, then for the third goal, to help promote better understanding of other peoples by Americans."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I certainly think that I came to appreciate the culture of the Malay and the Chinese and the Indian culture that I had contact with. It influenced me to go on to a career that involved international service and other countries. Five years in Nepal, two years in Bangladesh. A number of short-term projects in other parts of the world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, say a little bit about that. What were some of the projects in these other countries? You were like five years in Nepal, did you say?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00000:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 45.9231733899594, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I have found since then, one of the thoughts I've had since I left the space program—I say it in the book, too—is that something—I'm not a religious person, as I said—but something happened of the original seven guys, the only person that could have done Deke's job and would have been willing to do it was Deke Slayton, and yet he was the person that had this heart problem that forced him into doing it. Now, he might have done it even without a heart problem. He's the only one that had the ability and the dedication. There's no one [other] of those seven that could have ever done that job. And the number-two person that would probably qualify to do something like that was Al Shepard, and he had that inner ear problem that made him number two to Deke, and it came along later so that Deke was already ensconced as number one. It wasn't reversed.\\n\\n And it's like, how did that happen? How did it happen that two key people in our office had medical problems that made them go in the positions they were in, that they were really the only two people of those seven guys that could do it? None of the others, for a variety of reasons, would ever have been able to do it. Really a funny thing. And it's so wonderful that Al got well and got to go to the moon and Deke got enough well so that he got to fly in ASTP [Apollo-Soyuz Test Project]. So it was a funny thing there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure is. You mentioned that you had been—I guess had been asked to serve with the crew, with Conrad's crew."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And I believe that was as a backup LM [Lunar Module] pilot for Apollo 9."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you then train with Jim [James A.] McDivitt's crew in preparation for the flight?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00000:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.66, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. No. What we did, we finished it that way. This guy's name is Bill Anderson. So we'd get up there, we'd sit down there and look at it, then we'd get up there and we'd change it. Sometimes when you go for color variety it's great to have two people, because his idea of variety is different, and just the fact that we both did more variety is three times as much variety. So we usually had that. But sometimes we'd get down, we'd say, \"The hand's too long,\" then we'd shorten the hand. Then we'd look at it, \"It's too long,\" because you look at it at these funny angles and stuff.\\n\\n So we ended up really enjoying it, and we finished before the three days was up. We said, \"You know, I don't think there's anything else we really have to do here. It looks good.\" Of course, we both learned how to work with each other. It was a lot of fun. We both like it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did anybody document you doing this? Were there people taking pictures or anything?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't think so. His wife took a few. Yes, she's probably got some."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because as you tell the story, I'm thinking, gee, I wish I had been there with a videocamera to videotape you guys."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, it'd be good. It'd be fun seeing us mess with that thing and trying to make the star or the reflection bigger or littler, you know, and you'd say—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A great documentary for PBS."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00000:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.4, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't think so. His wife took a few. Yes, she's probably got some."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because as you tell the story, I'm thinking, gee, I wish I had been there with a videocamera to videotape you guys."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, it'd be good. It'd be fun seeing us mess with that thing and trying to make the star or the reflection bigger or littler, you know, and you'd say—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A great documentary for PBS."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They'd love it, because people don't know what artists are doing. They think they're just drawing it out through their head, but they're really not. They're doing it, and then you're redoing it, and then you're looking at it and say, \"What's good? What's not good?\" And it's only your judgment. I mean, there's nobody saying, \"The feet are too big.\" I mean, this person says the feet are too big, and this person says, \"I like them a little big.\" So there's no real laws.\\n\\n I used to compare it to fixing my car. You know, you replace the generator on your car. You get it on, you follow the book or someone tells you, you get it on, you start the car and look at the generator. Is it generating? That's it. Okay. Close it up. Let's go home. All right. You draw the generator, whatever, and you think, \"Is that good enough?\" One guy thinks it should be more blue, and the other guy thinks it's too big. So it's kind of a fun thing. It's a play-around thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What medium do you usually work with?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:1", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 37.3173166072563, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hi Barbara."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why don't we start by asking you what you're doing today?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I'm living in Goleta, California now, which is officially a city, a new city. And working at the University of California Santa Barbara campus as a kind of in-house journalist. I edit and write the staff and faculty newspaper, which is called 93106 after the zip code. Very imaginative. And this means that I'm essentially the chief cook and bottle washer for that little newspaper, which comes out once every two weeks during the school year. I sell ads so, you know, follow up with billing and as well as write and edit stories. And then I take other people's stories and edit them and do layout and make sure production works. So I do the whole schmear."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, for the record, would you mind just giving us your address here in Goleta?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. It's [address]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, good. Well, let's jump back a few years. Quite a few, as a matter of fact. When did you first hear about the Peace Corps? Can you do you remember? Is there a context?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:3", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 33.68590734139589, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I'm living in Goleta, California now, which is officially a city, a new city. And working at the University of California Santa Barbara campus as a kind of in-house journalist. I edit and write the staff and faculty newspaper, which is called 93106 after the zip code. Very imaginative. And this means that I'm essentially the chief cook and bottle washer for that little newspaper, which comes out once every two weeks during the school year. I sell ads so, you know, follow up with billing and as well as write and edit stories. And then I take other people's stories and edit them and do layout and make sure production works. So I do the whole schmear."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, for the record, would you mind just giving us your address here in Goleta?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. It's [address]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, good. Well, let's jump back a few years. Quite a few, as a matter of fact. When did you first hear about the Peace Corps? Can you do you remember? Is there a context?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there is. I was actually an undergraduate student at UCSB when Peace Corps was first announced. And I graduated in June of 64. But I, I was pretty certain after I'd say my sophomore year that I really wanted to consider Peace Corps. And I don't remember talking specifically to a recruiter, but I do remember gathering information from Peace Corps Washington in the early 60s. They probably didn't have much of a recruiter network. And then I applied and went through the procedures, which took several months, as I recall, not unlike today. And on April the 1st, 1964, I was invited to join a health community development training group for Brazil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you actually were invited before you had finished your college?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 35.2065637126621, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. It's [address]."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, good. Well, let's jump back a few years. Quite a few, as a matter of fact. When did you first hear about the Peace Corps? Can you do you remember? Is there a context?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there is. I was actually an undergraduate student at UCSB when Peace Corps was first announced. And I graduated in June of 64. But I, I was pretty certain after I'd say my sophomore year that I really wanted to consider Peace Corps. And I don't remember talking specifically to a recruiter, but I do remember gathering information from Peace Corps Washington in the early 60s. They probably didn't have much of a recruiter network. And then I applied and went through the procedures, which took several months, as I recall, not unlike today. And on April the 1st, 1964, I was invited to join a health community development training group for Brazil."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you actually were invited before you had finished your college?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. But I was on track to graduate in June. Right. I think they knew that at that time. And, of course, that was the day that the regime was overthrown by the military in Brazil. So my mom did wonder if I really wanted to go to Brazil after that. But I don't think it's going to be a problem for the Peace Corps. Let us know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. So what was the reaction of other friends and family?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 25.787366260153245, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We started out with like over a hundred. It was a pretty decent size group. And this wasn't the only one at the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee. There was an Indian group. There was also training just a few residence halls away from us. But I think in the end, what happened was part of our group. We've been training, all of us have been trained in health and community development. And part of our group was kind of taken aside and interviewed by another. Well, I don't know, actually, if it was a project director or somebody from Washington, but in any case, they were split off. There were about a dozen of them that end up going to the northeastern part of Brazil rather than the far western part, which at that time called Mato Grosso. We were going to be the first group of health volunteers in Mato Grosso. And we're supposed to be joined by another group of agricultural volunteers. And that did indeed happen. But by the time we got to Mato Grosso also, I think we were at 70 something, something like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, you know, that's kind of a roundabout way of answering your question, but that's kind of why. And subsequently, people like Scott Ellinwood were part of that north-eastern group, I think. And so, you know, we didn't see them or didn't see much of them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So now, after the training was over, you returned home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there was a brief break, I think, to say goodbye and wrap up very last-minute things you had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you remember the trip? Was there anything memorable about the trip itself?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 26.43040695572583, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, you know, that's kind of a roundabout way of answering your question, but that's kind of why. And subsequently, people like Scott Ellinwood were part of that north-eastern group, I think. And so, you know, we didn't see them or didn't see much of them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So now, after the training was over, you returned home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there was a brief break, I think, to say goodbye and wrap up very last-minute things you had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you remember the trip? Was there anything memorable about the trip itself?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You're asking about what happened 40 something years ago. And I can't recall. Yeah, I think we went to Miami to fly from Miami to Brazil, and I'd never been in Miami before. I was given a little dose of humidity. What I should expect. I don't do well with humidity. They told me about this. And this is what it feels like now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you when you arrived in country."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 28.256007728584255, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there was a brief break, I think, to say goodbye and wrap up very last-minute things you had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you remember the trip? Was there anything memorable about the trip itself?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You're asking about what happened 40 something years ago. And I can't recall. Yeah, I think we went to Miami to fly from Miami to Brazil, and I'd never been in Miami before. I was given a little dose of humidity. What I should expect. I don't do well with humidity. They told me about this. And this is what it feels like now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you when you arrived in country."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Rio."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, you arrived in Rio. Any, you know, first impressions that loom large?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 12, "return_to_go": 26.95111969842695, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You're asking about what happened 40 something years ago. And I can't recall. Yeah, I think we went to Miami to fly from Miami to Brazil, and I'd never been in Miami before. I was given a little dose of humidity. What I should expect. I don't do well with humidity. They told me about this. And this is what it feels like now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you when you arrived in country."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Rio."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, you arrived in Rio. Any, you know, first impressions that loom large?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we flew into the Rio airport, which is on an island right in Guanabara Bay. And so, as I recall, we could, we couldn't see Christ the Redeemer statue, but we certainly could see Sugarloaf on the super when we flew in. Those were great sights and just a beautiful location for our city. You know, it just tears my heart out to read about the pollution that's been going on. But yeah, it was all very exciting. We had about a week in Rio before we were, and we're mixed in with a bunch of other volunteers from different places."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you did your training continue in country?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.929156681034831, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. They had the Mato Grosso volunteers. And I think we may have not met them until we got to Mato Grosso, but they had the health volunteers that I was part of, and they had the agricultural volunteers that were all going to Mato Grosso, meet in Cuiaba. And some of our people from health and some of the people from Ag, so they must have been in Rio, were designated to drive Land Rovers across the country to Campo Grande then from Campo Grande north to Cuiaba, because those roads were the best that they could travel on. And they weren't always that great from what we heard.\n\nBut we all met in Cuiaba and in Cuiaba, we had almost another month of specialized health training. In the States, we'd learned general health concepts. We'd learned something about disease prevention, vaccination techniques, things like that. And in Cuiaba, we got the vocabulary that would go with our different jobs. The men were assigned to be sanitation helpers, was the translation. The women would be nurses’ helpers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And so each group kind of got separate training on what kind of vocabulary they would be expected to use and to know. Plus, we built a privy. And that was one of the first times that we actually had done that as a Peace Corps trainee group, there in Cuiaba. And we met some of the people that would be part of the state health system that we might correspond with or have community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You didn't live with families in those states, did you? As part of the training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Thank you for reminding me. We had a host family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did have a host family?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.58795186781648, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And so each group kind of got separate training on what kind of vocabulary they would be expected to use and to know. Plus, we built a privy. And that was one of the first times that we actually had done that as a Peace Corps trainee group, there in Cuiaba. And we met some of the people that would be part of the state health system that we might correspond with or have community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You didn't live with families in those states, did you? As part of the training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Thank you for reminding me. We had a host family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did have a host family?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And I was paired up with another young man, I think, with this one family. And the father spoke some English and he wanted to practice his English. And we wanted to practice our Portuguese. So we basically, you could find somebody in the family who'd practice one or the other with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did your language skills begin to explode?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 18.30994769247802, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Explosion isn't quite the word I would use, but they did improve slightly, I think. And the father, fortunately for me I thought, was not bashful about correcting my grammar or misuse of vocabulary, which I always appreciated, really. But I think of my real language skills development as being in in the site."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I was sent there. In Cuiaba, because we are the new group and the pioneer group really for health, we were considered kind of hybrid workers for the state health system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they were going to and did assign the males and the females to state health posts. What we didn't know at the time and really should have been told was that this was part of a general housecleaning, that this new director of the state health system had already started before we got there. But some of us I heard from other people, not in my particular case, but some of us were seen as job takers because they had moved out the sanitation helper who had been there. And suddenly here was this North American, you know, with various levels of Portuguese comprehension. But in my particular case, I was assigned to a small town called Camapuã, which was more in the southern part of the state. It was about four hours by bus from Campo Grande, which was the largest city outside of Cuiaba. And today, in fact, the state's been split in half. So large. And Cuiaba as the capital, the northern what used to be the northern part of Mato Grosso. And there's a new state called Mato Grosso Dos Sul and Campo Grande is its capital."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, were you the first Peace Corps volunteer into that community?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:45", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 11.522561992425267, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. And for many of them, I was the first white person, they said, or first North American, and I was the only English speaker in the community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So for a month, I walked around with a Portuguese English dictionary in my hand. But, you know, I've said this to many people over the years, and especially to new trainees or to new would be volunteers. It really helped me become part of the community quicker. And it helped undermine the whole concept that some of them had of me being a spy or a CIA agent or something like that. I mean, Latin America in the ‘60s was being roiled by a lot of changes. There were, you know, very active communist parties in most countries. And there was a lot of agitation against America, but there was a lot of hope, a lot of feeling of goodwill toward John Kennedy and the children of Kennedy, as some of the Spanish speaking countries came to call the volunteers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not in Brazil, that that term didn't catch on as much as some of the Caribbean nations and some of the others. But even in my little town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let me think now. When did you actually go to Brazil? What month?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.580624436028074, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So for a month, I walked around with a Portuguese English dictionary in my hand. But, you know, I've said this to many people over the years, and especially to new trainees or to new would be volunteers. It really helped me become part of the community quicker. And it helped undermine the whole concept that some of them had of me being a spy or a CIA agent or something like that. I mean, Latin America in the ‘60s was being roiled by a lot of changes. There were, you know, very active communist parties in most countries. And there was a lot of agitation against America, but there was a lot of hope, a lot of feeling of goodwill toward John Kennedy and the children of Kennedy, as some of the Spanish speaking countries came to call the volunteers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not in Brazil, that that term didn't catch on as much as some of the Caribbean nations and some of the others. But even in my little town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let me think now. When did you actually go to Brazil? What month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you see, I started training in June of ‘64. It would have been September."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had just barely been there when Kennedy's death?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.645138262253415, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not in Brazil, that that term didn't catch on as much as some of the Caribbean nations and some of the others. But even in my little town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let me think now. When did you actually go to Brazil? What month?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you see, I started training in June of ‘64. It would have been September."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had just barely been there when Kennedy's death?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was less than a year after his death."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He died in November of ‘64."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.716820291392683, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you see, I started training in June of ‘64. It would have been September."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you had just barely been there when Kennedy's death?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was less than a year after his death."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He died in November of ‘64."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sixty three."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, yes, that's right."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 13.230642335052694, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sixty three."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, yes, that's right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was after. Yeah. And I can't recall because my decision to enter the Peace Corps had already been made before his assassination. And the only thing I can think of is that his assassination may have just firmed up my resolve that I was going to do this. But we didn't talk about that so much. I mean, a lot of us talk about why are you here? And some of them some of us mentioned Kennedy or trying to carry his legacy forward or whatever you want to say about. But most of us, I would say, just were there for self-exploration and trying to do a little something positive for the rest of the world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Maybe in that respect, you know, the ask not what you can do or what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. I think we're still resonating. You know, my generation of volunteers. But it wasn't one of those things that we carried on our sleeves."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. Well, tell me about arriving at your job, at your assignment."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:63", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 13.123978562799413, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, because they weren't sure exactly when I was going to arrive. And also, they were going through what turned out to be a fairly regular period of turmoil in the health post. There was, as I mentioned earlier, no one in the sanitation helper position that I was coming in to fill. Fortunately for me. But there's also no doctor who is usually who is supposed to be in charge. They had two nurses, as they call them. The translation would be visiting nurses, I think, but there, from what I could determine there, their training was above what we consider an LPN, but not quite what we consider an RN."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And one of the two nurses had kind of taken over the role of acting health post director. And we were working through the grace of the local Catholic Church in what used to be the nunnery of the church. Uh, we didn't stay there very many months, but we did have, at least when I arrived, a place where they could put their meager stores and have some examining rooms and things like that. So, yeah, it was it was a I was I was told I was going to stay in the pension, a little inn. And where the bus stopped was just outside that that inn. And that was perfect for me. And the foreman wasn't angry with me, but he just scooped up the lime and put it back in with the dirt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were told you were going to stay in the pension, but was that just for the first night or was that to be your?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn’t sure. And then I found out that all the other health care workers who didn't live either with a family or have a."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, then we just flipped the tape, and I think you were saying that you had just discovered that the other health workers were also staying in the pension. Is that how you pronounce it?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:65", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.248865069777125, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And one of the two nurses had kind of taken over the role of acting health post director. And we were working through the grace of the local Catholic Church in what used to be the nunnery of the church. Uh, we didn't stay there very many months, but we did have, at least when I arrived, a place where they could put their meager stores and have some examining rooms and things like that. So, yeah, it was it was a I was I was told I was going to stay in the pension, a little inn. And where the bus stopped was just outside that that inn. And that was perfect for me. And the foreman wasn't angry with me, but he just scooped up the lime and put it back in with the dirt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were told you were going to stay in the pension, but was that just for the first night or was that to be your?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn’t sure. And then I found out that all the other health care workers who didn't live either with a family or have a."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, then we just flipped the tape, and I think you were saying that you had just discovered that the other health workers were also staying in the pension. Is that how you pronounce it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pension? Yeah. And it was just a one-story structure with little rooms. And it gave me a room to have a door that open to the street and plus the fact we had no ceilings, that you got air circulating, especially in hot nights into your room. And I had a I remember I had a mosquito netting that I used the Peace Corps supplied over my bed. And I also had I believe I brought this with me from Campo Grande, a little library of paperback books, which in those days was part of the equipping of a volunteer and a site. And I met the owner of the pension, a man of indeterminate age, but he looked as old as the hills, named Saturnino, and his wife, Virgilina, who actually ran the pension. She was kind of brusque large and very efficient and had a heart of gold."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you lived there the whole time."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.387627855307915, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wasn’t sure. And then I found out that all the other health care workers who didn't live either with a family or have a."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, then we just flipped the tape, and I think you were saying that you had just discovered that the other health workers were also staying in the pension. Is that how you pronounce it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pension? Yeah. And it was just a one-story structure with little rooms. And it gave me a room to have a door that open to the street and plus the fact we had no ceilings, that you got air circulating, especially in hot nights into your room. And I had a I remember I had a mosquito netting that I used the Peace Corps supplied over my bed. And I also had I believe I brought this with me from Campo Grande, a little library of paperback books, which in those days was part of the equipping of a volunteer and a site. And I met the owner of the pension, a man of indeterminate age, but he looked as old as the hills, named Saturnino, and his wife, Virgilina, who actually ran the pension. She was kind of brusque large and very efficient and had a heart of gold."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you lived there the whole time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I ended up living there for the better part of two years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where’d you take your meals?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.652919839231016, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pension? Yeah. And it was just a one-story structure with little rooms. And it gave me a room to have a door that open to the street and plus the fact we had no ceilings, that you got air circulating, especially in hot nights into your room. And I had a I remember I had a mosquito netting that I used the Peace Corps supplied over my bed. And I also had I believe I brought this with me from Campo Grande, a little library of paperback books, which in those days was part of the equipping of a volunteer and a site. And I met the owner of the pension, a man of indeterminate age, but he looked as old as the hills, named Saturnino, and his wife, Virgilina, who actually ran the pension. She was kind of brusque large and very efficient and had a heart of gold."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you lived there the whole time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I ended up living there for the better part of two years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where’d you take your meals?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "With them. They had, in the pension, a little eating sala room, and they had the people who stayed there eight there for the most part. At least they had their dinners there, because when I had breakfast, every once in a while, there'd be somebody eating breakfast, but not always. And they had a little kerosene fueled refrigerator, which was fortunate for me because they didn't use it too often. But when I saw with the water situation was they used filtered water from the wells. But the well was below the privy at that time. And so that was one of the things that I knew from training was that a no-no and that I was supposed to try to help change. And actually, it turned out that my one of the nurses who was also working there had been working on them, too, for a couple of those type of features that needed to be changed and improve the health situation. Moving the privity was one of them. So between the two of us, we actually got that privy moved downstream."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you go to work right away?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.61305876437725, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pretty much as I recall. I met the nurse who was in charge. And the other one, I think they're both. They were both staying at that pension. And they said, well, tomorrow we'll show you what the health post looks like. They weren't quite sure, you know, how I was supposed to work and how are they supposed to use me. Because my salary was, like most Peace Corps volunteers, the cost of living allowance that they gave us. I wasn't paid by the state of Mato Grosso, though. So I had this kind of outside independence, too, especially when after the first few months I found that my cost of living allowance was more than I needed to actually have a comfortable life there. And it turned out to be very helpful because we got some community development projects financed with that little extra margin, plus what I got paid for teaching English at a private school.\n\nBut that's another part of the story, the community development part. At the health post level, I was informed very quickly that they had no doctor. There was a visiting doctor from Sao Paulo, which was another large city on the coast of Brazil. He was considering moving here. But basically we saw no fewer than three legitimate doctors and one fraud come through our little town in the time I was there checking it out to see if there would be a possibility of enough income."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How big a community was this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My first community survey showed about two thousand people. And this was the county seat, the municipal, municipio, and it was the source of the it was very limited bureaucracy at that time. And it handled mostly an economy based on raising rice and growing cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And there were a lot of large fazendas, or ranches, in the area. The mayor himself owned two of them, you know, and a number of the people who sat on the council for the county slash city were also ranchers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do the nurses provide clinical nursing care? Was there a clinic or was this more public health? What kinds of things they were working on?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.236731960419167, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My first community survey showed about two thousand people. And this was the county seat, the municipal, municipio, and it was the source of the it was very limited bureaucracy at that time. And it handled mostly an economy based on raising rice and growing cattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And there were a lot of large fazendas, or ranches, in the area. The mayor himself owned two of them, you know, and a number of the people who sat on the council for the county slash city were also ranchers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do the nurses provide clinical nursing care? Was there a clinic or was this more public health? What kinds of things they were working on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a combination of both, Barbara, because the nurses did tend to spend a fair amount of their time giving injections of very often just vitamins. Other times, they may have been treating small infections. You know, that sort of thing with antibiotics. But we didn't have much in the way of that. And most of it came out of a drug salesman's samples."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And there was no clinic other than what they provided. That was it for the community?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.04081328935463, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And there were a lot of large fazendas, or ranches, in the area. The mayor himself owned two of them, you know, and a number of the people who sat on the council for the county slash city were also ranchers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do the nurses provide clinical nursing care? Was there a clinic or was this more public health? What kinds of things they were working on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a combination of both, Barbara, because the nurses did tend to spend a fair amount of their time giving injections of very often just vitamins. Other times, they may have been treating small infections. You know, that sort of thing with antibiotics. But we didn't have much in the way of that. And most of it came out of a drug salesman's samples."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And there was no clinic other than what they provided. That was it for the community?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was it for the community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the nearest hospital, would have been?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 21.161497888092136, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was it for the community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the nearest hospital, would have been?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Plus the drugstore. You know, in Brazil, like many countries, the farmacia is not just a dispensary of prescription and non-prescription drugs, but also advice. And very often they gave injections too, something that bothered, I know, at least our lead nurse."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, yeah, in terms of health care, anything serious had to go south. There was nothing between us and Campo Grande."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did your role become as a health care volunteer?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:111", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 12, "return_to_go": 27.269674010039296, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I think at first we tried to do it once a month or maybe more frequently, but pretty soon we were doing it every two to three weeks because we got more staff who helped write the articles."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, did they get paid or was this all volunteer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All volunteer. We started charging, though, for subscribers and we started charging for advertising. And I would, you know, cut the stencils very carefully to get the ads in. And some of the local merchants would subscribe to support the little paper. And we called it Okallaponence, the Camapuã post, you know, as the title of the paper. And people loved it. They took it to their hearts and they would send it, because a lot of them were migrants from the northeast or the south, west, southeast, northeast or southeast. And they'd send it to their families and friends, say look what we've got here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did it become a vehicle for health education?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. As a first, the first issue had a bit of front-page article about the yellow fever vaccination campaign. And we had the local dentist in town who had the most education. The most educated person in town was the dentist. He would do proofreading for us, capture the mistakes I was making or some of the others would make."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, let's see if we can pick up where we left off on the last tape."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 18.582036290259555, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was gratifying to see it still there. And honestly doing quite well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were a catalyst for a number of things, it sounds like. Are there any others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The newspaper died out after two years after I left. Dete carried it for a year, doing it the way we have it. And then and as far as I can tell, it continued to build up its reserves and then nobody wanted to take on the load. So the dentist took it over. And he always had grandiose plans. He took our money and he invested it in about three issues of the newspaper being printed by a real print shop."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was it. Oh, dear."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have no idea what ever happened to the typewriter, but the little silkscreen stayed with Dete because that community support group I tried to get going, try to take over the paper, said, no, no, we're independent. We're not supposed to be beholden to you. You're supposed to help us. So they fell apart. Uh, but I think he kept it the uh, the silkscreen, because he was finishing up his fourth year and a little newspaper appeared at the school. Silkscreen. And they told me they sent me some copies, actually, and said the paper lives! So that was that was nice. But I really hadn't expected something as ambitious as that. You know, to have more than a limited impact. I was so happy that it helped get the maternity hospital going again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fabulous. Now, during the time you were in your little village, what contact did you have with either Peace Corps as an institution or other Peace Corps volunteers?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 19.53559587806617, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The newspaper died out after two years after I left. Dete carried it for a year, doing it the way we have it. And then and as far as I can tell, it continued to build up its reserves and then nobody wanted to take on the load. So the dentist took it over. And he always had grandiose plans. He took our money and he invested it in about three issues of the newspaper being printed by a real print shop."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was it. Oh, dear."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have no idea what ever happened to the typewriter, but the little silkscreen stayed with Dete because that community support group I tried to get going, try to take over the paper, said, no, no, we're independent. We're not supposed to be beholden to you. You're supposed to help us. So they fell apart. Uh, but I think he kept it the uh, the silkscreen, because he was finishing up his fourth year and a little newspaper appeared at the school. Silkscreen. And they told me they sent me some copies, actually, and said the paper lives! So that was that was nice. But I really hadn't expected something as ambitious as that. You know, to have more than a limited impact. I was so happy that it helped get the maternity hospital going again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fabulous. Now, during the time you were in your little village, what contact did you have with either Peace Corps as an institution or other Peace Corps volunteers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not much. We got visited twice in two years, I think. And once was by a Peace Corps volunteer leader, came up and joined us in a volleyball game for that. And then once one of the staff would go, they came up and gave me some seeds for a failed garden project. Not all of my initiatives came to fruition. And um, and then I was asked to help process our group out of Mato Grosso at the end of their two year term. But I had to go to Cuiaba to do that. And I actually welcomed that because I was chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:125", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.068636886501444, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not much. We got visited twice in two years, I think. And once was by a Peace Corps volunteer leader, came up and joined us in a volleyball game for that. And then once one of the staff would go, they came up and gave me some seeds for a failed garden project. Not all of my initiatives came to fruition. And um, and then I was asked to help process our group out of Mato Grosso at the end of their two year term. But I had to go to Cuiaba to do that. And I actually welcomed that because I was chicken."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you mean?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I had formed a lot of close relationships there in town, and I knew how hard it was going to be for me to say goodbye. Uh, especially if I told them two weeks ahead of time, Oh, looks like I'm going to have to go to Cuiaba and help out. And it would just be nonstop, you know, saudade, which is a wonderful Brazilian Portuguese term, I'm not even sure the Portuguese use it, but it means, it's a combination of being homesick, of missing something that hasn't even left. I mean, it would be one of these kind of catchall terms that you use because it fits so many different things, but doesn't have a really, really clear-cut meaning by itself. It's the context that makes it clear. And, you know, people would say they still did that. I mean, I told them two days or three days before I left that I was going to have to go. And the word just spread like wildfire. Yeah, little town. And people would come out and say, I know you haven't gone, but I still have saudade of you. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I miss you, too. But it was it's more than just missing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was pretty intense."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was it was intense few days. And they insisted on a farewell party at a private school. And the whole community came, you know, testimonial after testimonial about this young American."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it's it sounds like you had a wonderful experience."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:127", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.07626320722383, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I had formed a lot of close relationships there in town, and I knew how hard it was going to be for me to say goodbye. Uh, especially if I told them two weeks ahead of time, Oh, looks like I'm going to have to go to Cuiaba and help out. And it would just be nonstop, you know, saudade, which is a wonderful Brazilian Portuguese term, I'm not even sure the Portuguese use it, but it means, it's a combination of being homesick, of missing something that hasn't even left. I mean, it would be one of these kind of catchall terms that you use because it fits so many different things, but doesn't have a really, really clear-cut meaning by itself. It's the context that makes it clear. And, you know, people would say they still did that. I mean, I told them two days or three days before I left that I was going to have to go. And the word just spread like wildfire. Yeah, little town. And people would come out and say, I know you haven't gone, but I still have saudade of you. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I miss you, too. But it was it's more than just missing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was pretty intense."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was it was intense few days. And they insisted on a farewell party at a private school. And the whole community came, you know, testimonial after testimonial about this young American."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it's it sounds like you had a wonderful experience."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I really did. Yeah, I felt like I accomplished something positive. I made a lot of good friends who shamefully I didn't keep in touch with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned you'd been you were back about six or seven years after you finished. Have you been back since?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:133", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 26.30488780140443, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I trained a group right after I left Cuiaba after helping the. And I may have heard about it. I don't even remember how I first heard about this, but it could have been in Rio, it could have been in Cuiaba. But after I left my town, and we had at that time, no knowledge that there would be another Peace Corps volunteer coming and taking over that position I left vacant. But the idea, as always, as I understand Peace Corps, anyway, is to work yourself out of a job. And Dete was interested in the job and I said, go for it. You've got all you need and more. And that turned out to be very true because he did apply, he did get the training course that he had to get through, like I did in Cuiaba. And he came back to Camapuã with a wife who was a nurse. So he really brought some resources back to that I never could have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And Dete was the sanitation worker for a while. And then I think he kind of assumed other responsibilities in the health post. And then his wife was part of that health post, too. And at some point in the six or seven years before he came back, he ran as the principal elementary school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And he became the local agricultural ranching co-op secretary treasurer. So he became a man of importance. I can tell you that community. And I think you just need somebody to believe in him, you know? Because he had the ambition. He had the smarts. And he had a winning personality once he got over his shyness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That too must be gratifying. If he became the catalyst."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:135", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 28.11654200156048, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And Dete was the sanitation worker for a while. And then I think he kind of assumed other responsibilities in the health post. And then his wife was part of that health post, too. And at some point in the six or seven years before he came back, he ran as the principal elementary school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And he became the local agricultural ranching co-op secretary treasurer. So he became a man of importance. I can tell you that community. And I think you just need somebody to believe in him, you know? Because he had the ambition. He had the smarts. And he had a winning personality once he got over his shyness."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That too must be gratifying. If he became the catalyst."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I think he was my best project. But he also was my he, I was his project. Because without him, I couldn't have done some of those town meetings. No question about that. And there were other things that he helped out on, the paper. He understood that I didn't want to control the paper in perpetuity. I just wanted to get started and I wanted him and other Brazilians to take over. And they did, for enough months so that I could see that I could leave and it'd be in good hands."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned earlier that your living allowance was more than sufficient, that you were able to save for vacations. So where did you go? You took some vacations?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:155", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 28.497559753653597, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. There are about three of us, I think, from Mato Grosso. And they used my newspaper as a language training aid. That was cool. And then they sent teams of two usually of the trainee volunteers into surrounding towns to accomplish certain things on the weekends, basically, and get them a little bit acculturated and practicing their Portuguese, etc. I could tell from the experience I had and what I heard from my fellow volunteers in Mato Grosso, that getting that language is so crucial to their effectiveness. And it's so hard when you're, as was the case, paired up with another English speaking volunteer. It's constant temptation to speak English rather than Portuguese and that slows your acquisition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, you know, we warned them about this and they could see some of these things were happening. I remember one girl, I think she's from Minnesota, who liked culottes. And I said, Leslie, those are going to get you more attention than anything else you could possibly wear. So be aware of this. You know, when you go into your village, don't wear culottes right from the beginning. And she later wrote me one letter when she was said, you were so right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that was an enjoyable experience working with this training group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And I think self selection works. If they've given enough time and information, they really can understand more what they're getting into. But it was a costly process. So I suspect that there weren't that many."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm not aware that that's become the norm in terms of training. Were there any disappointments in terms of your two years as a volunteer in Brazil?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:163", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 36.37945397599999, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I missed my girlfriend. I missed my family. But I had so many great people there that I was working so that I could go back to that University of Texas training group and say, these people are worth the effort."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Now, when you returned to the United States. Did you have culture shock like I did?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had culture shock there. Yeah. Because I could see so much benefit in a slower pace of life and getting to know people and really not just being satisfied with a passing in the hallway. Hi, how are you doing? Fine, thank you. Okay. But you know, it also helped me appreciate individuals and individual. Both the role of individuals and the kind of hidden joys that individuals can bring to your life without you wanting or expecting it. And I still find that to be true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. What did you do when you first came back to the United States?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I had a choice. I had tried and failed, talk about disappointment, here’s one, to pass the Foreign Service officer exam."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which I understand was not easy."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:179", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.6, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And they said, let's see what we can do for you. And they came back a day later and said, we're sending you for interviews at Heidelburg. If they don't need a military journalist there, they always need a clerk typist. You know, you'll have a much better position for that. And I ended up spending 13 months in Heidelberg as a journalist. I got it back and I got a great job producing a little publication, not that much above the silkscreen, but a little bit better, in which I encouraged people to explore Germany, West Germany. And it was just a great thing. I was able to learn some German."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Super. I think you lucked out. Now, what has been your connection with the Peace Corps in the umpteen years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, well, I was one of the co-founders, I guess you could say, of this group here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And we’re referring to the very active Santa Barbara Peace Corps Association. And you and I both have served on that board. But you've been at it much longer than I."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But inconsistently. And it was because there were too few of us doing too much at the beginning. Now, I'm sure you felt that here once by yourself. But it was such a relief to see new blood finally come in and take over from the old timers. I mean, Mike Marzola and Bill Dillon and Rose, yeah Rose too, we date back to that era. But there aren't many of us. Billy Brother, who you seldom see, but maybe once a year. You know, she helped out, too, in the beginning. And there were others that are still in this area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you're still you're still active in the group."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00219:181", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 4.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, well, I was one of the co-founders, I guess you could say, of this group here."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And we’re referring to the very active Santa Barbara Peace Corps Association. And you and I both have served on that board. But you've been at it much longer than I."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But inconsistently. And it was because there were too few of us doing too much at the beginning. Now, I'm sure you felt that here once by yourself. But it was such a relief to see new blood finally come in and take over from the old timers. I mean, Mike Marzola and Bill Dillon and Rose, yeah Rose too, we date back to that era. But there aren't many of us. Billy Brother, who you seldom see, but maybe once a year. You know, she helped out, too, in the beginning. And there were others that are still in this area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you're still you're still active in the group."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Well, you know, I'm one of those that believes that once you're a Peace Corps volunteer, you’re always a Peace Corps volunteer. And I still find it a really worthwhile organization, despite its ups and downs. And I objected very strenuously to Mr. Vasquez as the director. I felt he was totally unqualified to be appointed. But I recognize the political realities. I mean, this is a political appointment, just as some of our country directors are. And so our ambassadors are, you know, and you get the good with the bad, and sometimes you're pleasantly surprised. Sargent Shriver was a political appointee, right? You couldn't have asked for a better salesman, and creator, I mean, the things that he fought for. Just amazing that some of them survived. Including the autonomy of the Peace Corps, which it lost for a while."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Now, as we've gone through this interview, have I skipped over our probing any areas that you would like to be part of your Peace Corps history?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00639:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We talked early on about change a lot. We had a lot of change in the beginning. I would say probably two things. The most significant event no doubt was responding to being proposed to be cancelled in February 2010. Hopefully I will only live through one of those in my career, because that was very very hard individually and for the whole team to work through that. We talked about it the first time we were together.\\n\\n After that I would say second thing that surprised me, because I’d always come from mature programs, but when you’re early in the development stage, your program exists only on paper and on PowerPoint charts. It’s very easy to change, and it’s very easy to be critical of a PowerPoint chart. You have to be conscientious and focused to limit the change, because you can always go back and spend another couple months making a new set of charts. You have to be conscientious and transition your program from out of this paper stage into a detailed design phase and ultimately produce flight hardware. The early days where we were in a lot of that PowerPoint engineering was quite challenging, and we had to break through that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What would you consider your most significant contribution?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I would say there are probably two things that are memorable to me and important to me. First off, it was bringing a production schedule-focused emphasis to the program, especially on our way towards EFT-1, when we were really struggling getting parts to the Cape and building the vehicle for the first time.\\n\\n Secondly, I do remember early on I feel like I contributed in establishing this multicenter organization, because in the early days again to make those personal ties, to establish those business rhythms took effort. I think those are the things that I remember most about my tenure here on Orion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there anything that we haven’t talked about that you wanted to mention? I imagine you have lots of stories and anecdotes. Any memories that we haven’t talked about that you’d like to?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m sure I will think of something, but for now you’ve exhausted me. But if anything comes to me I can send you a note."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. We appreciate it. Thank you very much."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00197:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Actually I was a little confused by that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sorry."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not by what you said. But we actually changed a couple times."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk about that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of the pressure vessel is actually aluminum, but there were sections of it that were aluminum-lithium. We actually had a problem where we had welds. When we cracked the pressure vessel during the proof pressure tests on EFT [Exploration Flight Test]-1 one of the things that we didn’t model very well—we had different types of this aluminum alloy. They have slightly different properties. They were also welded together, so we didn’t properly account for some of the weld shrinkage. We didn’t properly account for I think it was strain capability of this particular alloy. It was a little weaker in one direction. Since we’re using different pieces in different areas, it actually caused us to not calculate correctly, and then it cracked during the proof pressure test. It was easy to fix, but it was a surprise."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think this might be a good time if you want to stick your head out and just see if your folks are here."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00517:45", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. So when you tell people at JSC it’s family, they know what you mean. Choked up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It’s okay. Through those 43 plus years there’s a lot of paths that you’ve crossed with people."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that’s true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A lot of good memories for you to think about."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They’re not over yet. They’re just going to be different."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00517:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that’s true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A lot of good memories for you to think about."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes there are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They’re not over yet. They’re just going to be different."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. That’s really one of the blessings. I think I shouldn’t end without thanking Hamilton for the career that they gave me. I talk about individual bosses, which were all important. But it’s amazing to go through a career that’s more than four decades long with one company and be able to say that I couldn’t have been treated better. From the beginning to the end."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s amazing. Well, thanks for sharing your history and your thoughts with us. We appreciate it."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 53.840144833985775, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. And then the activities on campus were always either free or extremely reasonable; they were part of the student activity fund… So in general, with any of the free time that I had, I felt I was richer than I'd been before. [Laughter] So I really didn't feel deprived having to work through college."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At some point you changed from chemistry to math."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. As a junior, I got into organic chemistry, and, oh, no. [Laughter] It just wasn't the chemistry for me. I finally sat down and took stock, and said, well, golly, I've got enough time in math, and I always had loved math. It was something that would never throw you a curve. Once you learned a particular part of math, it was yours, you know. So I thought, it's really silly of me to be putting in all these hours in lab, see, where for each hour that I would put in on math, I'd get credit for, but all the labs were three and four and five hours. I thought, \"Boy, this is enough for me. I'm outta here.\" [Laughter] So I changed to math, and that was the right decision."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you one of the few women that were majoring in math at that time or were there other classmates of yours?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it was more that there were fewer men, because it had been a women's college before this. I'd say in college it was more that there were too few men around, you see. So then I was quite lucky in that one of the graduate students, he'd just graduated from M.I.T. [Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, Massachusetts], and, of course, I had looked over all of his application and so on. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Checked him out. [Laughter]"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 13, "return_to_go": 64.1236355975133, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it was more that there were fewer men, because it had been a women's college before this. I'd say in college it was more that there were too few men around, you see. So then I was quite lucky in that one of the graduate students, he'd just graduated from M.I.T. [Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, Massachusetts], and, of course, I had looked over all of his application and so on. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Checked him out. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. But I didn't know exactly who he was. One day I was working around the chemistry department, I came across this person who was working on the first-aid kit. He was putting the red cross on the first-aid kit in the hall. I stopped and chatted with him, wanted to know what he was doing. Later on he said that I informed him that the cross that he painted was crooked and that he took the masking tape off too soon. [Laughter] But as you might know, we've been married for forty-five years now. He's been able to put up with it. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Maybe he agreed with you. Maybe it was. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was glad to get the attention, I think. Actually, he had come to Florida State, he had graduated from M.I.T. and it was pretty grueling activities that he'd been in, so he looked up and he'd seen that Florida State had been a woman's college and he decided, \"Man, I can study and still have fun,\" you see. So in general, I said that I got two degrees from Florida State. I got my bachelor's and I got my \"Mrs.\" degree. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you want to do with your math degree? Did you have any idea where you wanted to apply that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 32.98259048140467, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. By this time I had three children, so it was—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were busy."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was busy. But before the second child was born, we got a live-in nanny, and that worked out quite well. Prior to that, my daughter had gone to a nursery right on the—it was one on the [Langley] Air Force base. So that was nice. She went with us when we went to work and came back with us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Close by."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. So all of that worked out great. But then with the second one, well, that was going to be too much, so we got somebody to stay with them. So she was with us for about ten years. In the wintertime, Grandmother would be down there, so we didn't feel that they were ever neglected. They always had plenty of people around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You built an extended family."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 36.6473227571163, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was busy. But before the second child was born, we got a live-in nanny, and that worked out quite well. Prior to that, my daughter had gone to a nursery right on the—it was one on the [Langley] Air Force base. So that was nice. She went with us when we went to work and came back with us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Close by."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. So all of that worked out great. But then with the second one, well, that was going to be too much, so we got somebody to stay with them. So she was with us for about ten years. In the wintertime, Grandmother would be down there, so we didn't feel that they were ever neglected. They always had plenty of people around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You built an extended family."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. Then for a while we even had two—not while we were in Virginia, but later on sometimes we'd have two grandmothers. Sometimes that didn't work out just right. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A full house. [Laughter]"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 40.719247507907, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. So all of that worked out great. But then with the second one, well, that was going to be too much, so we got somebody to stay with them. So she was with us for about ten years. In the wintertime, Grandmother would be down there, so we didn't feel that they were ever neglected. They always had plenty of people around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You built an extended family."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. Then for a while we even had two—not while we were in Virginia, but later on sometimes we'd have two grandmothers. Sometimes that didn't work out just right. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A full house. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother was a very determined type, and we found it was better that she came in the summertime and Don's mother came in the wintertime."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Everybody got wiser as the children got older. [Laughter]"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 41.910275008785554, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. Then for a while we even had two—not while we were in Virginia, but later on sometimes we'd have two grandmothers. Sometimes that didn't work out just right. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A full house. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother was a very determined type, and we found it was better that she came in the summertime and Don's mother came in the wintertime."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Everybody got wiser as the children got older. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Don's father died while we were at Langley, still. But they had always lived in—after his father had retired from teaching high school, they lived in Maine. They would live in Maine in the summertime and St. Pete [St. Petersburg], Florida, in the wintertime. So after his dad died, then his mother would just come down to Virginia and stay with us. So it worked out pretty well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What year did you move to Houston?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 45.45586112087284, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My mother was a very determined type, and we found it was better that she came in the summertime and Don's mother came in the wintertime."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Everybody got wiser as the children got older. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Don's father died while we were at Langley, still. But they had always lived in—after his father had retired from teaching high school, they lived in Maine. They would live in Maine in the summertime and St. Pete [St. Petersburg], Florida, in the wintertime. So after his dad died, then his mother would just come down to Virginia and stay with us. So it worked out pretty well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What year did you move to Houston?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We came down here in July of '62. As I say, everybody else in my group was already here. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They saved you a place."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 44.95095680096982, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Don's father died while we were at Langley, still. But they had always lived in—after his father had retired from teaching high school, they lived in Maine. They would live in Maine in the summertime and St. Pete [St. Petersburg], Florida, in the wintertime. So after his dad died, then his mother would just come down to Virginia and stay with us. So it worked out pretty well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What year did you move to Houston?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We came down here in July of '62. As I say, everybody else in my group was already here. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They saved you a place."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They certainly did. In fact, one of the ladies that I worked with, she went over to Langley to do the same general type work I do. Her husband had worked with Sears. When he got a transfer down here, she came down. She came down about a number of months later. We were still at HPC. This was Mary [Shep] Burton. If you ever get a chance to interview her, she's an interesting person. She did stay mainly in the math aide-type work and then later on she went into office management and—I probably don't have the name of it right, but the office services for all of JSC [Johnson Space Center]. So she worked her way up in that type of management. But she always knew exactly what was going on. I really wish that you'd be able to interview her. She'd be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It must have made the move easier to know that you were moving to a job that you already had friends and your task were waiting for you to get there."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 49.94550755663313, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We came down here in July of '62. As I say, everybody else in my group was already here. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They saved you a place."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They certainly did. In fact, one of the ladies that I worked with, she went over to Langley to do the same general type work I do. Her husband had worked with Sears. When he got a transfer down here, she came down. She came down about a number of months later. We were still at HPC. This was Mary [Shep] Burton. If you ever get a chance to interview her, she's an interesting person. She did stay mainly in the math aide-type work and then later on she went into office management and—I probably don't have the name of it right, but the office services for all of JSC [Johnson Space Center]. So she worked her way up in that type of management. But she always knew exactly what was going on. I really wish that you'd be able to interview her. She'd be good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It must have made the move easier to know that you were moving to a job that you already had friends and your task were waiting for you to get there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. In fact, before I left Langley, well, I was saying to my husband, \"I could do that kind of work. I'm doing the same type work those people are,\" you know. And he said, \"Well, you really have to apply. You have to make out a Form 59 and apply.\" Good idea! [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So simple but so good. [Laughter]"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 25, "return_to_go": 58.73748460625569, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. You don't need to keep this, but they were like all men, they'd check their fly to make sure it was closed. I figured they were like any other men. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No wonder. They were faced with a woman coming down the stairs looking at them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure there weren't too many women working at that time, so maybe they just didn't expect to meet anybody on the stairs."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. I would say it was about a ratio of maybe ten to one that way…"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you feel that personally, that you were one of ten women in—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:65", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.4805229672827, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Let's see. I don't know as I—my husband brought that up. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, you'll have to bring that up with us now. We want to hear that story."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I still don't tell people these days about it. They wanted to know what type of orbit we'd have to fly in order to come over the same spot every day, with the same lighting conditions. It was one that we told them…we could fly, because it was going to have to be one that compensated for the earth's motion around the sun. It turned out to be one that you had to have a—it was not a geosynchronous orbit, but it was a retrograde orbit, one that was more than 90 degrees in retrograde orbit, with exactly the right altitude so that you'd have the right period.\\n\\n …It was assigned to us, so we worked on it. So Ken [Kenneth A.] Young was my supervisor at the time, and we were saying, \"What in the world will we call this thing?\" So we decided that—we gave it a name and we called it the GOTSPOTEWILD orbit. It was going over the same spot on the earth with identical lighting daily. We decided, well, it looks German, so let's put a couple of umlauts on it. [Laughter] But we didn't get into trouble for it. I don't know why. It was just because we weren't going to use it. We knew we weren't going to use it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it goes right along with the rest of the acronyms. It definitely has its own meaning."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, we thought it was just great."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We do, too."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.089469963647446, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I still don't tell people these days about it. They wanted to know what type of orbit we'd have to fly in order to come over the same spot every day, with the same lighting conditions. It was one that we told them…we could fly, because it was going to have to be one that compensated for the earth's motion around the sun. It turned out to be one that you had to have a—it was not a geosynchronous orbit, but it was a retrograde orbit, one that was more than 90 degrees in retrograde orbit, with exactly the right altitude so that you'd have the right period.\\n\\n …It was assigned to us, so we worked on it. So Ken [Kenneth A.] Young was my supervisor at the time, and we were saying, \"What in the world will we call this thing?\" So we decided that—we gave it a name and we called it the GOTSPOTEWILD orbit. It was going over the same spot on the earth with identical lighting daily. We decided, well, it looks German, so let's put a couple of umlauts on it. [Laughter] But we didn't get into trouble for it. I don't know why. It was just because we weren't going to use it. We knew we weren't going to use it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it goes right along with the rest of the acronyms. It definitely has its own meaning."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, we thought it was just great."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We do, too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we really didn't let that out as what it was. I don't remember ever really telling people what it was. I would give them the memo and show them, and if they were talking something about that type of orbit, well, I'd very seriously give them the name. \"Johannes Götspötewild. You know, it's one of his orbits.\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And no one questioned?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.877188848497163, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, we thought it was just great."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We do, too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we really didn't let that out as what it was. I don't remember ever really telling people what it was. I would give them the memo and show them, and if they were talking something about that type of orbit, well, I'd very seriously give them the name. \"Johannes Götspötewild. You know, it's one of his orbits.\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And no one questioned?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What respect you had. [Laughter]"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.863543164996848, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we really didn't let that out as what it was. I don't remember ever really telling people what it was. I would give them the memo and show them, and if they were talking something about that type of orbit, well, I'd very seriously give them the name. \"Johannes Götspötewild. You know, it's one of his orbits.\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And no one questioned?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What respect you had. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They did. They were afraid to fool with me after a while."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's a good respect to have, I think, especially in your environment. Things were going so fast every day that—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:73", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 22.070603516663162, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What respect you had. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They did. They were afraid to fool with me after a while."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's a good respect to have, I think, especially in your environment. Things were going so fast every day that—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "—you moved from one task or project or doing many of them. Did you find, especially during the Mercury and Gemini days, did you find one to be more challenging than the other to accomplish in the time that was given you?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 24.522892796292403, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They did. They were afraid to fool with me after a while."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's a good respect to have, I think, especially in your environment. Things were going so fast every day that—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "—you moved from one task or project or doing many of them. Did you find, especially during the Mercury and Gemini days, did you find one to be more challenging than the other to accomplish in the time that was given you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really. You just sort of felt you were in there grinding it out. The managers would try to give people work that they knew they were capable of doing, because they wanted it done. Then I would see it as the real work was being done many grade levels above me, you see, but I could observe what was going on. It was fascinating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did your work take you down to the Cape?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 22.80321421810267, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "—you moved from one task or project or doing many of them. Did you find, especially during the Mercury and Gemini days, did you find one to be more challenging than the other to accomplish in the time that was given you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really. You just sort of felt you were in there grinding it out. The managers would try to give people work that they knew they were capable of doing, because they wanted it done. Then I would see it as the real work was being done many grade levels above me, you see, but I could observe what was going on. It was fascinating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did your work take you down to the Cape?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I can't really say I was working, but John Mayer was our branch chief, and as we were all constantly under the gun, one of his ways of thanking us was to take us down to the flights. Ostensibly we were working, you know. Actually, we would, I suppose, if something had gone wrong and you needed to come up with another plot or something of that sort. But I was able to go down on [Alan B.] Shepard's [Jr.] flight, his first flight. Then also [M.] Scott Carpenter's.\\n\\n On Shepard's flight, there were delays in that, and it was mainly bad weather… So I was able to get a rental car. The rental cars were piling up at the Cape, and they needed to be ferried back to Miami, so I picked up one of the cars and ferried it back, and stayed and visited with my family and kept the car till I was ready to come back, then…turned the car in and came on back just in time for the launch. But [the launch] was fascinating."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell us about all that was going on, where you were standing. Were you involved with the people?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 25.550895726279368, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. We'd have these—Bill Tindall's, his T&Os and data priority and so on. There'd be some head-banging times going on in that, you know. Somebody would have an idea that it really should be done this way, somebody else had an idea it should be done another way, and you'd get it sorted out. You'd run trade studies. It would eventually get worked out, but every little detail had to be done. Bill would put out his [memos] that people called \"Tindallgrams,\" you see. You probably have heard a good little bit about his Tindallgrams. They were written just the way he talks, but he left out the swear words. But the way Bill talked was, a swear word was an adjective. It just flowed with the rest of his conversation, you see. [Laughter] But his Tindallgrams didn't have the swear words in them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember one Tindallgram more than the other?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not really. Not really. That was quite a while ago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure they all had an impact."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the mission that you remember when your rendezvous work actually took place, that you could see your efforts become reality?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 28.7165001162618, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. During that period of time we were still submitting our jobs to the mainframe, and I'd have priority, but it would be submit a job and wait for a few hours to get it back, and submit another job and wait for a few hours to get it back… So I did bring in my sleeping bag and sleep in the ladies' room. [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Take a little nap every now and then, huh?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Well, in general, I'd be able to get a block of work done and then I'd have to wait until somebody came in the next morning to decide whether they wanted to use that or not use it… So I'd get a good night's sleep, but wasting the time to go all the way home and all the way back, it would have been an hour—if they'd call me, it would have been an hour wasted or so, you know. We still had the nanny that worked with us, and my husband was real good at filling in when there was something like this going on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like your partnership at home certainly helped you become definitely a success at your work."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He even does all the food handling and everything… [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And from what you told us, his job was very busy, so it seemed like it worked out well."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:101", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 31.907222351401998, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Well, in general, I'd be able to get a block of work done and then I'd have to wait until somebody came in the next morning to decide whether they wanted to use that or not use it… So I'd get a good night's sleep, but wasting the time to go all the way home and all the way back, it would have been an hour—if they'd call me, it would have been an hour wasted or so, you know. We still had the nanny that worked with us, and my husband was real good at filling in when there was something like this going on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like your partnership at home certainly helped you become definitely a success at your work."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He even does all the food handling and everything… [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And from what you told us, his job was very busy, so it seemed like it worked out well."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We could trade off. But when he got down here—he did a good bit of his traveling when we were at Langley. He didn't do anywhere [nearly] as much [business] traveling when he was here, so we could pretty well plan our schedules at that point. Then we did have a grandmother around every now and then. [Laughter] But he was great. He's never one to say, \"That's a woman's job,\" or anything of that sort. Whatever is to be done, he's going to do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "From Skylab, you transitioned into the newest era of NASA at the time, and that was the Space Shuttle. Tell us how you were able to go from Skylab and all the work you had done from there and move into that area."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.09335399502322, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We're going to take a break."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had worked with Mrs. Rhine for quite a while, and, of course, she had been handling all of these strange incidents…and we had worked categorizing them and studying them… But once we left the Parapsychology Laboratory and had worked for NASA for quite a while, then Dr. Rhine came over to, I think, Newport News [Virginia], to give a lecture. After the lecture, we went out to dinner with them. Mrs. Rhine was asking me, \"What are you doing?\"\\n\\n \"We're working for NASA.\"\\n\\n \"NASA?\"\\n\\n \"Yeah, don't you know we're the group that wants to put a man into orbit.\"\\n\\n She said, \"A man? Doesn't that give you the creeps?\" [Laughter] Here she's working with things that just give you goosebumps, you know. Of course, this was long before Mercury. This was right at the very beginning when we just got started. She hadn't even heard of NASA. \"Doesn't that give you the creeps?\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were there at the beginning that it all started, and forty years later you're still involved with it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does it feel like forty years?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.9926155500258, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had worked with Mrs. Rhine for quite a while, and, of course, she had been handling all of these strange incidents…and we had worked categorizing them and studying them… But once we left the Parapsychology Laboratory and had worked for NASA for quite a while, then Dr. Rhine came over to, I think, Newport News [Virginia], to give a lecture. After the lecture, we went out to dinner with them. Mrs. Rhine was asking me, \"What are you doing?\"\\n\\n \"We're working for NASA.\"\\n\\n \"NASA?\"\\n\\n \"Yeah, don't you know we're the group that wants to put a man into orbit.\"\\n\\n She said, \"A man? Doesn't that give you the creeps?\" [Laughter] Here she's working with things that just give you goosebumps, you know. Of course, this was long before Mercury. This was right at the very beginning when we just got started. She hadn't even heard of NASA. \"Doesn't that give you the creeps?\" [Laughter]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were there at the beginning that it all started, and forty years later you're still involved with it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does it feel like forty years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it really doesn't. In fact, I probably have been putting off retiring because I probably will feel withdrawal symptoms. I could have retired long ago, but it's still fascinating work and it's still about the same. In fact, my buddies keep pointing at me, \"She's a real strange one. She's been doing this for all these years and she's keeping at it.\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you're still continuing to learn today."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:123", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 7.769572833362, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Does it feel like forty years?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it really doesn't. In fact, I probably have been putting off retiring because I probably will feel withdrawal symptoms. I could have retired long ago, but it's still fascinating work and it's still about the same. In fact, my buddies keep pointing at me, \"She's a real strange one. She's been doing this for all these years and she's keeping at it.\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you're still continuing to learn today."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. Each of the flights that we're working on, there's something new on it, you see, and it's fascinating. I'm working now with the—Rockwell was sold to Boeing, that part of Rockwell sold to Boeing, and we're now the United Space Alliance, but it's still the same thing, just continuing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One significant change that occurred was that when you began your career, the United States was in a space race with Russia, and now in the recent years of your career, you have helped the United States work in a partnership as well with Russia. How was that for you to make that change in your life of one philosophy to the other?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:131", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.98669842, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you have changed anything during these whole forty years, if you would have done something different?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Congress could have kept pouring more money in. [Laughter] And we really would have liked to have gotten started on the Space Station much sooner… In general, I've been amazed that we've been able [to accomplish so much.] Every so often with the management you'd kind of think, \"Well, I really can't tell what's going on. I hope they can,\" you know, but in general it's all worked out. I don't think we could have done it better.\\n\\n I must admit that after Apollo was over, there was a slack-off. You didn't have the same goal… So now it's more like work. Before, it was, \"I'm surprised they're paying me to do a job that's so interesting.\" Now it's a little more like work."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the greatest challenge of this career?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. It always seems like I just moved into things that were convenient and let someone above me do the most work. But I would say getting up and facing a room full of people when I had a presentation to give, screwing up my courage enough to get up there. But in general, all the rest of it has pretty well just been an integral part of the puzzle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you enjoyed your work so much that you chose not to move into management?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:135", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.687282, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. It always seems like I just moved into things that were convenient and let someone above me do the most work. But I would say getting up and facing a room full of people when I had a presentation to give, screwing up my courage enough to get up there. But in general, all the rest of it has pretty well just been an integral part of the puzzle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you enjoyed your work so much that you chose not to move into management?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. I sort of looked at it as if I'd raised my three children and I didn't really want to guide the careers of anybody else's children. I really enjoyed this type of work a lot more than I would management work. I did have a few opportunities when I could have, particularly when we transferred out of NASA. They really expected me to take a management position there, but management isn't the type of work that I'd like to do, and I knew it. I'd always believed in the Peter Principle, that you rise to your level of incompetence, and then you stay there… I wanted to stay just one level below my level of incompetence. [Laughter] So I do still feel like I contribute."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, we thank you. If you allow it, I'd like to ask Sandra or Carol and see if they have any questions that they might have thought about."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Great."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have anything, Carol, that you have? Sandra, did you think of anything?\n\nI did, actually. First I'd like to say what a fascinating career."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:137", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.09698, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. I sort of looked at it as if I'd raised my three children and I didn't really want to guide the careers of anybody else's children. I really enjoyed this type of work a lot more than I would management work. I did have a few opportunities when I could have, particularly when we transferred out of NASA. They really expected me to take a management position there, but management isn't the type of work that I'd like to do, and I knew it. I'd always believed in the Peter Principle, that you rise to your level of incompetence, and then you stay there… I wanted to stay just one level below my level of incompetence. [Laughter] So I do still feel like I contribute."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, we thank you. If you allow it, I'd like to ask Sandra or Carol and see if they have any questions that they might have thought about."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Great."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have anything, Carol, that you have? Sandra, did you think of anything?\n\nI did, actually. First I'd like to say what a fascinating career."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has been."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A couple of things. When you came to MSC as an aerospace engineer, how about when you moved into that department, in terms of ratio of men to women? We got a feel when you were the math aide that there were more women. What about when you became an aerospace engineer?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:139", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.5522, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Great."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have anything, Carol, that you have? Sandra, did you think of anything?\n\nI did, actually. First I'd like to say what a fascinating career."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has been."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A couple of things. When you came to MSC as an aerospace engineer, how about when you moved into that department, in terms of ratio of men to women? We got a feel when you were the math aide that there were more women. What about when you became an aerospace engineer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably was even less, because before I was in a group with basically women for the math aids. I was the only woman in the Rendezvous Analysis Branch. There were just very few women all the way through JSC, in fact, all the way through my NASA experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did that pose any obstacles for you, being the only woman in Rendezvous?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:142", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.058, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It has been."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A couple of things. When you came to MSC as an aerospace engineer, how about when you moved into that department, in terms of ratio of men to women? We got a feel when you were the math aide that there were more women. What about when you became an aerospace engineer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably was even less, because before I was in a group with basically women for the math aids. I was the only woman in the Rendezvous Analysis Branch. There were just very few women all the way through JSC, in fact, all the way through my NASA experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did that pose any obstacles for you, being the only woman in Rendezvous?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I never really thought about it, but my husband always told me, \"This is the way they work.\" I'd come home saying this and this and this happened, and he'd explain it. Then my brother was one that was always competing, and once I learned to live with my brother, I could learn to live with anybody else, see. [Laughter]\\n\\n I did have one office mate that was just about like my brother, but he was a little bit smarter. We just sort of jostled off of one another. But I didn't ever feel really threatened by it. He did make too much noise. I'd go home at night and my head would just be ringing… I'd still be hearing him talk… But he was always into something. But I'd always come back with something. We had a good relationship.\\n\\n At lunch we'd work on the crossword puzzle and we'd get into competitions. So there'd be one group working on theirs and another group working on the other one. The rules were that you could use any dictionary or anything you wanted, because it takes time to look it up. It's just whoever got through first, you know. So he and I were a team, and we'd just ace them most of the time, keep score on the blackboard, that sort of thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Will you indulge me in a couple more?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:144", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 5.62, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Probably was even less, because before I was in a group with basically women for the math aids. I was the only woman in the Rendezvous Analysis Branch. There were just very few women all the way through JSC, in fact, all the way through my NASA experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did that pose any obstacles for you, being the only woman in Rendezvous?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I never really thought about it, but my husband always told me, \"This is the way they work.\" I'd come home saying this and this and this happened, and he'd explain it. Then my brother was one that was always competing, and once I learned to live with my brother, I could learn to live with anybody else, see. [Laughter]\\n\\n I did have one office mate that was just about like my brother, but he was a little bit smarter. We just sort of jostled off of one another. But I didn't ever feel really threatened by it. He did make too much noise. I'd go home at night and my head would just be ringing… I'd still be hearing him talk… But he was always into something. But I'd always come back with something. We had a good relationship.\\n\\n At lunch we'd work on the crossword puzzle and we'd get into competitions. So there'd be one group working on theirs and another group working on the other one. The rules were that you could use any dictionary or anything you wanted, because it takes time to look it up. It's just whoever got through first, you know. So he and I were a team, and we'd just ace them most of the time, keep score on the blackboard, that sort of thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Will you indulge me in a couple more?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You talked about rendezvous, but we didn't talk as much about Gemini. I'm wondering what problems or—as Gemini is the project, of course that was the first docking missions. What did that pose for you as rendezvous analysis?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00448:156", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did that ever slow you down, or was it a way of helping you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, every so often I'd say, \"I don't want to have to learn two systems at once.\" [Laughter] Because sometimes you'd have different keyboards and two different systems…and then you'd be spending all your time correcting your errors from one keyboard to the other keyboard. They might have thought I was cranky sometimes… but in general they knew I'd come around. But you'd really work—you'd get from one system on to the next system, and then once you're on that individual system, well, then things would smooth out and you'd be able to work with it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It must have been a continual challenge, but it must have been very enjoyable for you to have dedicated forty years of your life to the space program."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. It's amazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know that your contributions will serve it for many years to come, and we certainly appreciate you taking the time today to share those with us."}]} {"block_id": "veterans-oral-histories-00005:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 54.91224925629235, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. It wasn’t bad. I mean the crazy part is, I like beer, so we’d buy Guinness and we’d buy Bass and we’d buy all the local stuff but for like pennies on the dollar of what we were paying back in the States. But then you always had some crazy kid from like Kentucky or Tennessee and they charged him £6 and that’s like $12 bucks for a Budweiser, it’s like dude, you’re drinking the wrong stuff. I liked cheeseburgers, or I did like cheeseburgers back then. Cheeseburgers in England are way, way, way different. Like a nasty Salisbury steak on squishy bread with wilted lettuce and squishy tomatoes. It wasn’t the same thing. We got to go around a couple of the towns and villages. I mean, you know, it’s nice seeing a different culture and everything. But you’d see the vegetables out. You’d see somebody cutting meat and cutting meat on like a piece of ply board that they painted white and they cut it fresh right there and barely wiped it down so. Never bought the fresh meat. Bought the fresh beer. They had a real cool bingo game that they played, and they turned it into a beer drinking game. That was kind of fun. But when it comes to putting them back and holding them down, I’m going to say the Brits got us, on average, they got us covered. I mean we were some flyweights. They were just pounding pints left and right and left and right and left and right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was your job assignment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So the 906 Medical Admin, if you’ve ever gone to like sick call in the military and you went to outpatient records to pick up your records, I was the technician that either took your request or pulled your record. So I managed and maintained your medical record, both inpatient data, outpatient. I did Patient Squadron for about three months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you see any combat while you were out there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there a lot of casualties in your unit?"}]} {"block_id": "veterans-oral-histories-00005:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 29, "return_to_go": 61.01361028476928, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So the 906 Medical Admin, if you’ve ever gone to like sick call in the military and you went to outpatient records to pick up your records, I was the technician that either took your request or pulled your record. So I managed and maintained your medical record, both inpatient data, outpatient. I did Patient Squadron for about three months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you see any combat while you were out there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there a lot of casualties in your unit?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. None in my unit. We actually at the hospital for the whole time we were deployed received three patients, only one of them was a POW. That’s it. So that’s a good thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you tell me about a couple of your most memorable experiences?"}]} {"block_id": "veterans-oral-histories-00005:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 28.033023200000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So for me, if it’s just like regular routine day it’s like work—like I said gamification, making it somewhat different for me mentally, challenging myself or not challenging myself trying to figure out how to pace myself. And make it like full bore, hardcore, 100% of the time doing actually just gliding. Lift weights, go play racquetball. Back in the dorms, booze and socializing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you travel while you were in the service?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I went from basic in San Antonio to technical school in Wichita Falls. I had orders for Elmendorf, Alaska, the person I was going to be replacing decided to reenlist. And I was actually on Air Alaska Airlines. I had purchased the little earphones and was starting to chill, somebody came and knocked on my head and the only person that knocks on your head is your technical instructor. I’m like, I thought we got rid of one another. He’s like, yeah, well here’s the deal. Explained the situation. Like where am I going? He’s like you’re going to Happy Valley. I never knew that Lackland was called Happy Valley, so I went back down to San Antonio. Other than being deployed for Desert Shield, Desert Storm, I went from the permanent party side of the base to the training side of the base and back and forth, moving records around. That was it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you take any photographs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have some personal photographs of me in my military uniform and my wife in her military uniform, but when I was in the only thing I had, you know how you go through basic and you get your flight picture or whatever? I got the flight picture and the one that they give you, that’s like the 5 x 8 or 8 x 10 or whatever. The wife actually got a little hardbound book. She’s got lots of photos from friends that she hung out with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember the day that your service ended?"}]} {"block_id": "veterans-oral-histories-00005:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 25.592248, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I went from basic in San Antonio to technical school in Wichita Falls. I had orders for Elmendorf, Alaska, the person I was going to be replacing decided to reenlist. And I was actually on Air Alaska Airlines. I had purchased the little earphones and was starting to chill, somebody came and knocked on my head and the only person that knocks on your head is your technical instructor. I’m like, I thought we got rid of one another. He’s like, yeah, well here’s the deal. Explained the situation. Like where am I going? He’s like you’re going to Happy Valley. I never knew that Lackland was called Happy Valley, so I went back down to San Antonio. Other than being deployed for Desert Shield, Desert Storm, I went from the permanent party side of the base to the training side of the base and back and forth, moving records around. That was it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you take any photographs?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have some personal photographs of me in my military uniform and my wife in her military uniform, but when I was in the only thing I had, you know how you go through basic and you get your flight picture or whatever? I got the flight picture and the one that they give you, that’s like the 5 x 8 or 8 x 10 or whatever. The wife actually got a little hardbound book. She’s got lots of photos from friends that she hung out with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember the day that your service ended?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "October 3, 1993, I was in San Antonio, out-processing. I already had my master’s by that time. I did my master’s in a one-year timeframe. So I was probably out of work maybe a total of six weeks until I found a job at the University of Texas Medical Branch down in Galveston."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was your education supported by the GI Bill?"}]} {"block_id": "veterans-oral-histories-00005:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 27.324720000000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have some personal photographs of me in my military uniform and my wife in her military uniform, but when I was in the only thing I had, you know how you go through basic and you get your flight picture or whatever? I got the flight picture and the one that they give you, that’s like the 5 x 8 or 8 x 10 or whatever. The wife actually got a little hardbound book. She’s got lots of photos from friends that she hung out with."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember the day that your service ended?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "October 3, 1993, I was in San Antonio, out-processing. I already had my master’s by that time. I did my master’s in a one-year timeframe. So I was probably out of work maybe a total of six weeks until I found a job at the University of Texas Medical Branch down in Galveston."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was your education supported by the GI Bill?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that point in time, no. I had my bachelor’s in political science and international relations that was paid for by my family prior to going in. I got in, figured out tuition assistance while I was in, where Uncle Sam pays 75% of your stuff as long as you get your skill levels passed. I had received an inheritance while I was in, and so I used part of that money to crank through my master’s and get that knocked out. So I didn’t use the GI Bill at all. I actually ended up losing it as did the wife for not using it all for 10 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you make any close friendships?"}]} {"block_id": "veterans-oral-histories-00005:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 30.3608, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "October 3, 1993, I was in San Antonio, out-processing. I already had my master’s by that time. I did my master’s in a one-year timeframe. So I was probably out of work maybe a total of six weeks until I found a job at the University of Texas Medical Branch down in Galveston."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was your education supported by the GI Bill?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that point in time, no. I had my bachelor’s in political science and international relations that was paid for by my family prior to going in. I got in, figured out tuition assistance while I was in, where Uncle Sam pays 75% of your stuff as long as you get your skill levels passed. I had received an inheritance while I was in, and so I used part of that money to crank through my master’s and get that knocked out. So I didn’t use the GI Bill at all. I actually ended up losing it as did the wife for not using it all for 10 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you make any close friendships?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had close friends while I was in but didn’t maintain any relationships afterwards. The wife did. One of her good friends prior to going in and afterwards was an airman that became godfather to one of our daughters, but he dropped off the radar for me, but she kept in touch with him from now and then."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you join a veteran’s organization?"}]} {"block_id": "veterans-oral-histories-00005:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 12, "return_to_go": 31.512, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At that point in time, no. I had my bachelor’s in political science and international relations that was paid for by my family prior to going in. I got in, figured out tuition assistance while I was in, where Uncle Sam pays 75% of your stuff as long as you get your skill levels passed. I had received an inheritance while I was in, and so I used part of that money to crank through my master’s and get that knocked out. So I didn’t use the GI Bill at all. I actually ended up losing it as did the wife for not using it all for 10 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you make any close friendships?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had close friends while I was in but didn’t maintain any relationships afterwards. The wife did. One of her good friends prior to going in and afterwards was an airman that became godfather to one of our daughters, but he dropped off the radar for me, but she kept in touch with him from now and then."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you join a veteran’s organization?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not really. I took advantage of state benefits in the State of Texas. Through the Texas Veterans but no, no like VFW or anything like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you go on to do after the military?"}]} {"block_id": "veterans-oral-histories-00005:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 21.68, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I had close friends while I was in but didn’t maintain any relationships afterwards. The wife did. One of her good friends prior to going in and afterwards was an airman that became godfather to one of our daughters, but he dropped off the radar for me, but she kept in touch with him from now and then."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you join a veteran’s organization?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not really. I took advantage of state benefits in the State of Texas. Through the Texas Veterans but no, no like VFW or anything like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you go on to do after the military?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was better. I was making about $1,100 every two weeks as a married individual. Well not every two weeks, on the 1st and the 15th and it wasn’t a ton of money. I got out and I started making $36,000 when I was working at the University of Texas Medical Branch and doing a whole lot more than just specialized niche areas like—I wasn’t doing the grunt work anymore as much as I was doing some of the management, some of the analytical type stuff. So did you ever hear of Steven Covey and The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People? It’s management theory. I actually helped reengineer myself out of a job at the University of Texas. We had a staff of like 30 or 40 people, and by the time I left, we were down to 6. So I left the University of Texas Medical Branch, went and became the records manager for the Houston Airport System. I’d been looking for a job for one of my employees when I came across the job with the National Archives in 1999. John Carlin was the Archivist of the United States at that time. And he was looking to bring in new blood. He wanted people who could perform records management, essentially business consultation on behalf of the National Archives to other federal entities. You didn’t have a good records management back then, and it’s highly preferable if you have an electronic record management back then and put in a package for that and haven’t looked back since."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did your military experience influence your thinking about war or about the military in general?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:63", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 36.30501612239401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I'll see how many extras of these I have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's a really big team, too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, that's the Russians and the Americans. Unfortunately, Lee Evey doesn't work for NASA anymore, and the gentleman [Zhulin] who is in these pictures is dead now. He died of brain cancer. This is pretty much -why don't you take those, too. That was the signing of the $400 million contract, which had, nonetheless, some pretty grim moments to it where we didn't talk to each other for two days during the period. We told them to leave. That created a bigger stir with our folks than it did with them. That's Lee Evey and Nicolai Zhulin."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[unclear] in front of ASTP [unclear]?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. That is the bunker, Building 265, that was a classified -that's a very skiff-like building. Lisa was in charge of getting all the furniture and phones and everything in there. We worked seven days a week from eight in the morning until midnight for -well, that was well over a month there. I went over to Russia the end of April to go over the RFP with them, go over it line by line and answer their questions, and then the team followed me over there and was there for a week or two, and then they all came back in early May and were there through the middle of June, through the summer solstice, anyway.\\n\\n It was an interesting evolution. We didn't get agreement for the Russians to sign it until the night before at headquarters, and some people had flown up that day. Goldin and Koptev had been there, and then they came down and did this, then they went up and did some more stuff. I don't think I'd want to sign up to do that again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sounds like time is not on your side, necessarily, when it comes to negotiation."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 11, "return_to_go": 44.82100755851112, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. That is the bunker, Building 265, that was a classified -that's a very skiff-like building. Lisa was in charge of getting all the furniture and phones and everything in there. We worked seven days a week from eight in the morning until midnight for -well, that was well over a month there. I went over to Russia the end of April to go over the RFP with them, go over it line by line and answer their questions, and then the team followed me over there and was there for a week or two, and then they all came back in early May and were there through the middle of June, through the summer solstice, anyway.\\n\\n It was an interesting evolution. We didn't get agreement for the Russians to sign it until the night before at headquarters, and some people had flown up that day. Goldin and Koptev had been there, and then they came down and did this, then they went up and did some more stuff. I don't think I'd want to sign up to do that again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sounds like time is not on your side, necessarily, when it comes to negotiation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Well, we were being forced to get this thing done by our side and take the deal that you got, and the deal was a good one, and we kind of got cross-threaded with some of the highest levels of management because we weren't getting the deal done, but they didn't understand. They would not have tolerated the deal that we had at the time. So it's one of those, \"If I'm going to get shot, at least I'm going to do the best job I can at this point.\" It turns out that the bullets that hit you aren't necessarily manufactured by your enemy. But that's common in this type of thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And as far as the $400 million goes, what was that money, so to speak, appropriated for? What was the contract for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The money was for Space Station in Phase One."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did that entail?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 46.0615874996359, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was left up to us. I mean, we took a lot of hits on the Hill. Some of the documents that I've generated showed up there. I was in the row supporting Goldin on one hearing, and I saw Sensenbrenner's [phonetic] henchman at the time, who now works for Spacehab out of Virginia. I can't remember his name. He had one of my documents, because I saw my name in the corner, you know, from where I could sit. I normally write my name up in the right-hand corner and that's all these documents up here, but it's one of those. I remember it. I don't remember why they had it, but you know, you take heat all the time. Some people saw it as a loss of jobs. We said, \"Well, there isn't anybody else up at the Space Station that we can use right now.\" They didn't want to hear that. It became a political football, not because it was a real subject; it was just something that they could talk about. And you find that a lot. It's sometimes frustrating, though, to hear the vehemence of Congress around things that you work on. I salute the same flag they do. I've taken the same oath that they've taken, and to have them question your patriotism or whatever, you know -"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And I suppose it's their job, to look after that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I wish that I could get desensitized to the hyperbole that they shine the way I have to the directness and the gruffness of the Russians, but so far I haven't been able to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's a hard thing to do if you're that dedicated."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have a question. You imply that Russia wanted to shortchange us on that $400 million. So what sorts of things did they want to leave out from what's on that list?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:112", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.7719510643725105, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, they did once."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it was unmanned."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's too expensive to get an ESCLSS system and a power system and all that stuff, put one up with batteries."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they figured they'd never really need it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. They wanted to do it. They ran out of money. It was the fact that the Reagan administration made them spend all their money and they found out they were bankrupt. They couldn't afford buying any more paper to print money, I mean, and that's the reason why. They found out what we found out: the Shuttle is a very expensive thing to operate. So they still use their fifties' technology boosters and their sixties' technology capsules and work very fine, thank you. They build things in about a ten-year lot. I mean, you get economy of scale when you only change things every ten years. Wait the first five years to see the things that have gone wrong and use the next five years to design out those problems, make the improvements, and make a ten-year run out of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did they build it in the first place? Just to keep up with the Americans, do you think?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:114", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.4132789604139, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's too expensive to get an ESCLSS system and a power system and all that stuff, put one up with batteries."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they figured they'd never really need it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. They wanted to do it. They ran out of money. It was the fact that the Reagan administration made them spend all their money and they found out they were bankrupt. They couldn't afford buying any more paper to print money, I mean, and that's the reason why. They found out what we found out: the Shuttle is a very expensive thing to operate. So they still use their fifties' technology boosters and their sixties' technology capsules and work very fine, thank you. They build things in about a ten-year lot. I mean, you get economy of scale when you only change things every ten years. Wait the first five years to see the things that have gone wrong and use the next five years to design out those problems, make the improvements, and make a ten-year run out of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did they build it in the first place? Just to keep up with the Americans, do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like they put in [Unclear]? Yes. Well, they had to have them. See, they were afraid of what it could carry up. You know, space-based lasers and all that kind of stuff. That was the real fear. But they also don't have a vehicle to bring anything back from space. I mean, they could take tons and tons and tons of stuff up there, but they can bring back grams and grams and grams."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Most of the data from the research [unclear] Mir."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:116", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.125865511571001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. They wanted to do it. They ran out of money. It was the fact that the Reagan administration made them spend all their money and they found out they were bankrupt. They couldn't afford buying any more paper to print money, I mean, and that's the reason why. They found out what we found out: the Shuttle is a very expensive thing to operate. So they still use their fifties' technology boosters and their sixties' technology capsules and work very fine, thank you. They build things in about a ten-year lot. I mean, you get economy of scale when you only change things every ten years. Wait the first five years to see the things that have gone wrong and use the next five years to design out those problems, make the improvements, and make a ten-year run out of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why did they build it in the first place? Just to keep up with the Americans, do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like they put in [Unclear]? Yes. Well, they had to have them. See, they were afraid of what it could carry up. You know, space-based lasers and all that kind of stuff. That was the real fear. But they also don't have a vehicle to bring anything back from space. I mean, they could take tons and tons and tons of stuff up there, but they can bring back grams and grams and grams."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Most of the data from the research [unclear] Mir."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. So in that regard, this is the first time they've ever gotten anything back that's reusable. We've been carrying back a lot of their avionic stuff from vehicles that they burn up and all that. That's been quite a good savings for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We were in mission control during the last mission when they were actually closing the hatches, and it was prior to the undocking, and they were asking if they could take one of the flight engineers, one of the Russian flight engineers' backpack with them on the Shuttle so they could return it to him."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:118", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.917628346190001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like they put in [Unclear]? Yes. Well, they had to have them. See, they were afraid of what it could carry up. You know, space-based lasers and all that kind of stuff. That was the real fear. But they also don't have a vehicle to bring anything back from space. I mean, they could take tons and tons and tons of stuff up there, but they can bring back grams and grams and grams."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Most of the data from the research [unclear] Mir."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. So in that regard, this is the first time they've ever gotten anything back that's reusable. We've been carrying back a lot of their avionic stuff from vehicles that they burn up and all that. That's been quite a good savings for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We were in mission control during the last mission when they were actually closing the hatches, and it was prior to the undocking, and they were asking if they could take one of the flight engineers, one of the Russian flight engineers' backpack with them on the Shuttle so they could return it to him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I was a little disturbed at the late notice on that, because they knew full well about that, and having that thing coming at the eleventh hour, it means that they're trying to force something down that shouldn't come down, is my reading on it. And if it happened open-mike to the rest of the world, we'd seem like the big ogres if we turned that down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. And everyone would say, \"[Unclear].\""}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:120", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.797364829100001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. So in that regard, this is the first time they've ever gotten anything back that's reusable. We've been carrying back a lot of their avionic stuff from vehicles that they burn up and all that. That's been quite a good savings for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We were in mission control during the last mission when they were actually closing the hatches, and it was prior to the undocking, and they were asking if they could take one of the flight engineers, one of the Russian flight engineers' backpack with them on the Shuttle so they could return it to him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I was a little disturbed at the late notice on that, because they knew full well about that, and having that thing coming at the eleventh hour, it means that they're trying to force something down that shouldn't come down, is my reading on it. And if it happened open-mike to the rest of the world, we'd seem like the big ogres if we turned that down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. And everyone would say, \"[Unclear].\""}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, there were procedures, and everybody knew about it, and it should have never come."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they pulled a fast one on us?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:122", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.663738699, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I was a little disturbed at the late notice on that, because they knew full well about that, and having that thing coming at the eleventh hour, it means that they're trying to force something down that shouldn't come down, is my reading on it. And if it happened open-mike to the rest of the world, we'd seem like the big ogres if we turned that down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. And everyone would say, \"[Unclear].\""}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, there were procedures, and everybody knew about it, and it should have never come."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they pulled a fast one on us?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it's like having a three-year-old look at you with those doe eyes and then look at the ice cream cone. Life doesn't change much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has it affected the relationships with the other agencies, like ESA, the European Space Agency or NASDA, the Japanese Space Agency?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:124", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.4041541099999995, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, there were procedures, and everybody knew about it, and it should have never come."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they pulled a fast one on us?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it's like having a three-year-old look at you with those doe eyes and then look at the ice cream cone. Life doesn't change much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has it affected the relationships with the other agencies, like ESA, the European Space Agency or NASDA, the Japanese Space Agency?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, in my opinion, it's allowed a lot of them to reclam some things that happened to them early on in the ISS program of Freedom. That's not necessarily to our advantage, but international things have a lot of posturing and a lot of arm-waving and stuff. Clearly ESA and NASDA and all that stuff have had their budget problems, too, and are having a difficult time keeping their programs sold. I don't think up front they wanted to have the Russians in there. I think now they realize that it's probably a better deal in that there's two different organizations that can carry their stuff up and they can strike the best barter deal or money deal to make things happen to their advantage. So I think that the bottom line is, it will be good for them, but I don't think you'll hear them say that. It's just not politically expedient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It seems as if they're sending up cosmonauts, [unclear] cosmonauts as well. Are they learning some of the same experiences that we are for when they'll be sending people up in Station?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:130", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.15659, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Well, I think that they have a real good idea that things are going to be a lot -in dealing with the Russians the way they were for the things that they did on Mir. I mean, leopards don't change their spots. And they're a lot closer to Russia than they are the United States, and so it makes sense for them to have some kind of closer relationship than they've had in the past. I think it's been good, and I think it's good, not for the internationals, but overall for the program because it's helped keep the Russians going with the funding that they've got. So I don't see any of the other internationals coming up with any human-rated vehicles in the time to come. So we're still going to be the only game in town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Too costly for them."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's extremely costly to try and build the kind of infrastructure and expert base that you need to be able to go do that. It's a risky business. You have to have the right tools in place to go do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have one more question."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Will you talk to us again when you have the time?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:132", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 11.2851, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's extremely costly to try and build the kind of infrastructure and expert base that you need to be able to go do that. It's a risky business. You have to have the right tools in place to go do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I have one more question."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Will you talk to us again when you have the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just because at this point we'd like to gather all the information we can, but I'd also like to get your own more personal views and some of your own involvement, more than just what we've talked about at a later date, if that works for you."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:140", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Evidently he knew, because he says, \"Yeah, it's either for you or for Mr. Abbey.\"\\n\\n I went, \"What?\" So I walk over to the phone and say, \"Hello.\" It was Arnold Nicagosian calling, but they knew who we were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And individually, too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Individually."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's scary."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We'd seen people that were spending an inordinate amount of time looking at us while we were drinking, and, you know, this was early on in the program, so you kind of felt safe. I mean, you do. When they have that much interest in you, they're not going to let something happen to you, because they don't know what you're up to if something happens to you before that. And that was the only time I've seen anything like that, but it's an eye-opener as to what can happen when you -you know, the first time you ever go to Moscow, the first time you're going to eat dinner, and somebody walks up to you and says there's a phone call. It's like, \"Who the hell even knows I'm here?\" Because everybody that would have cared that I was there, was there. So, I mean, those things happen.\\n\\n But we have the program, the people have been really lucky. We have had extremely minor things, most of them brought on by people's own stupidity. I mean, you just don't walk around or move around a big city late at night by yourself, especially after you've been drinking. Even if you haven't been drinking, if you go into one of those places, I mean, it's a magnet for those kinds of things. Knock on wood. It's not that bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's your favorite beer?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00818:142", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Individually."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's scary."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We'd seen people that were spending an inordinate amount of time looking at us while we were drinking, and, you know, this was early on in the program, so you kind of felt safe. I mean, you do. When they have that much interest in you, they're not going to let something happen to you, because they don't know what you're up to if something happens to you before that. And that was the only time I've seen anything like that, but it's an eye-opener as to what can happen when you -you know, the first time you ever go to Moscow, the first time you're going to eat dinner, and somebody walks up to you and says there's a phone call. It's like, \"Who the hell even knows I'm here?\" Because everybody that would have cared that I was there, was there. So, I mean, those things happen.\\n\\n But we have the program, the people have been really lucky. We have had extremely minor things, most of them brought on by people's own stupidity. I mean, you just don't walk around or move around a big city late at night by yourself, especially after you've been drinking. Even if you haven't been drinking, if you go into one of those places, I mean, it's a magnet for those kinds of things. Knock on wood. It's not that bad."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's your favorite beer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Budweiser."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's an inside joke.\n\nHe always wants to ask everyone."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00573:1", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 46.50142811460431, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You're very welcome. I'm pleased to be asked to do it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let's start back before you even went to college. Did you have any interest in airplanes or aeronautics prior to going to college?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, that was a long time ago, number one. Number two, the airplanes at that time, back in the early fifties, late forties, early fifties, were not as popular as they are today. I lived out in the country and I worked on a farm, and occasionally you'd see some airplanes go by, and, yes, I was interested and thinking that some day I'd like to be able to fly in one of those, maybe pilot it. So, yes, even before college, you'd see those flying by and I was interested."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Then you went to Virginia Tech and majored in mechanical engineering?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That is correct. While I was there, actually before then, and I'll just do this for you, before I decided to go to VPI [Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University, popularly known as Virginia Tech], I almost joined the Air Force. At the time I wanted to fly, so I went over to take the physical, and would have probably shipped out to San Antone [San Antonio, Texas] that evening. That's what they wanted us to do, if you passed the physical. What I really wanted to do was get into OCS [Officer Candidate School], so I could try to be a pilot. It turns out I have very flat feet and they disqualified me for that. \"Hey,\" they said, \"we'll take you as an airman and you can go tonight.\" I declined to do that. That was probably in June or July. And I wound up going to college in the fall. So I didn't do a lot of planning on the college on the front end, but it worked out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "While you were in college you began a co-op [Cooperative Education Program] at Langley [Research Center]."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00573:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.084366500000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very close call, no question. I mean, they're very lucky in a lot of ways. Some good design, too, and we had the capability to shut off the water, the main, okay? We also had another system that would provide entry. We had enough capability in that system that were redundant to also allow him to use that on orbit to stop it from spinning and still have enough to be able to come home. So it wasn't all luck."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "True. Then you were able to make that modification which would make Apollo safer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did that mod, but prior to the Apollo. I can't remember for sure, we'd have to go back and check the records. We may have already have made that mod before we ran into that, but it sure reconfirmed it if we hadn't. We may not have. We may have made that as a result. I think we made it before. You know, everybody knows you don't want to do this at a house either. So if you're doing wiring at the house, don't ever wire it up so just to short the ground. Gets your refrigerator hot. Because if you do, you touch it, you get shocked. So, wire it the other way. We knew that, but the electronics and switching circuits just were not available in the size and weight that we had to have on Gemini and Mercury—Mercury was wired the same way—to allow that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned Mercury just briefly. Did you have any experience with the Mercury RCS?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very little. Little bit, in that they were flying it—they weren't flying it. It was basically already developed and they were flying it after I was over in that group. There was a guy sitting at the desk next to me who was responsible for that, so frequently we talked and I understood what was happening. But I didn't do much personal work on Mercury. Some, but not a great deal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you work on the orbit attitude maneuver system?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00573:74", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 6.5, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were they planning on using retro rockets for both of those systems and were you involved?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "My memory is a little hazy, to be honest. I suspicion, now that you reminded me, that the Rogallo wing probably did not require, it may have had small enough velocities. The Gemini vehicle may have had wheels on it or skids. It had skids, now that I think about it. It had skids on it that would allow it to kind of land with some lateral velocity, and that's what the wing was trying to do. So I believe that the retro rockets would have only been used with the parasail system. So, yes, I stand corrected on that. You're right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I just wasn't sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't think the Rogallo wing one would require that. Now, we had enough other difficulties and people were also concerned with the vehicle tumbling and various other things, depending on how the skids touched down. But the retro rockets was for the other parachute system."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, the record was kind of vague on that. Okay. That's all I had. Thank you.\n\nBefore we wrap up, we talked about a lot of problems that the reaction control systems, OAMS systems, had on Gemini, that you learned from and were able to apply to Apollo. Did you have any problems on Apollo?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:1", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.217976369091652, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was one of the first two folks that I met when our class went down there. I don’t remember how it happened. I think we all decided we were going to go to a bar. We had something to do the next morning, and if everybody was there, we were just going to meet all over at some place. There were two guys that I recognized or knew, and I walked up and I said, “Hi, I’m Rhea Seddon.” One was Mike Coats, and one was Hoot [Robert L.] Gibson. I thought these are good-looking men, both with big blue eyes. I feel like I’ve known Mike for a long time. Good, good man."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He seems like a nice guy. When we were talking to Kathy [Kathryn D. Sullivan], she was talking about weighing who might go first, and she mentioned you in a red Corvette. Did you have a red Corvette when you first came to JSC?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Her memory is good but not that good. I had a Silver Anniversary Corvette. It was time for me to get a new car, and I figured I might get something really cool and had a friend who had an order in for one, but didn’t want it. He helped me get the one that he had ordered. It was neat; I was pretty flashy. I had forgotten that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She didn’t think she would be first to fly. She was like well, “We have Sally [K. Ride] and Anna [L. Fisher], and Rhea comes in with this beautiful red Corvette.” I just thought it was an interesting story. I thought I would ask you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a silver one, it was new, and it was beautiful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What a fun car, at a fun age."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:3", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.464418187879613, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Her memory is good but not that good. I had a Silver Anniversary Corvette. It was time for me to get a new car, and I figured I might get something really cool and had a friend who had an order in for one, but didn’t want it. He helped me get the one that he had ordered. It was neat; I was pretty flashy. I had forgotten that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "She didn’t think she would be first to fly. She was like well, “We have Sally [K. Ride] and Anna [L. Fisher], and Rhea comes in with this beautiful red Corvette.” I just thought it was an interesting story. I thought I would ask you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a silver one, it was new, and it was beautiful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What a fun car, at a fun age."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The other thing I wanted to ask you about. I asked Kathy about this as well. You had mentioned the Cape Crusader yesterday. I’d asked her where the term came from, because I can’t remember anybody in the Apollo Program ever telling us where that came from."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.849353542088458, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a silver one, it was new, and it was beautiful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What a fun car, at a fun age."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The other thing I wanted to ask you about. I asked Kathy about this as well. You had mentioned the Cape Crusader yesterday. I’d asked her where the term came from, because I can’t remember anybody in the Apollo Program ever telling us where that came from."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cartoon character."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it from Batman?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:7", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.388170602320509, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The other thing I wanted to ask you about. I asked Kathy about this as well. You had mentioned the Cape Crusader yesterday. I’d asked her where the term came from, because I can’t remember anybody in the Apollo Program ever telling us where that came from."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cartoon character."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it from Batman?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I don’t think so. I think there was a cartoon character called that. Have you tried Googling it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, I’ll have to go out and see."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 15.986856224800565, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The cartoon character."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it from Batman?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I don’t think so. I think there was a cartoon character called that. Have you tried Googling it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, I’ll have to go out and see."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Batman was the Caped Crusader, maybe that’s where it came from. I recall that there was a little cartoon character that either that was their nickname or that’s what they were called, crusader somebody. It came out of comic books or TV, and it was a silly thing. Not that we all took ourselves very seriously."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had pretty serious positions. Yesterday you were talking about your engagement on Valentine’s Day of ’81. Do you want to pick up there? We’ll put all the rest of this in the transcript too."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.429840249778406, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I don’t think so. I think there was a cartoon character called that. Have you tried Googling it?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, I’ll have to go out and see."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Batman was the Caped Crusader, maybe that’s where it came from. I recall that there was a little cartoon character that either that was their nickname or that’s what they were called, crusader somebody. It came out of comic books or TV, and it was a silly thing. Not that we all took ourselves very seriously."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had pretty serious positions. Yesterday you were talking about your engagement on Valentine’s Day of ’81. Do you want to pick up there? We’ll put all the rest of this in the transcript too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hoot and I knew we were pretty serious. We went out to dinner for Valentine’s Day, and we went to Galveston to one of the seafood restaurants there and walked out on the pier, and in the midst of that he asked me to marry him. Of course I said yes, because we’d been thinking about that for a while and then we discussed when. We were both just so incredibly busy getting ready for STS-1 that we knew that we would have to wait till after that got off the ground to set a date and begin the planning. We did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I remember reading the Hoot was contacted by Brides Magazine."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.03315583308712, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Batman was the Caped Crusader, maybe that’s where it came from. I recall that there was a little cartoon character that either that was their nickname or that’s what they were called, crusader somebody. It came out of comic books or TV, and it was a silly thing. Not that we all took ourselves very seriously."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had pretty serious positions. Yesterday you were talking about your engagement on Valentine’s Day of ’81. Do you want to pick up there? We’ll put all the rest of this in the transcript too."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hoot and I knew we were pretty serious. We went out to dinner for Valentine’s Day, and we went to Galveston to one of the seafood restaurants there and walked out on the pier, and in the midst of that he asked me to marry him. Of course I said yes, because we’d been thinking about that for a while and then we discussed when. We were both just so incredibly busy getting ready for STS-1 that we knew that we would have to wait till after that got off the ground to set a date and begin the planning. We did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I remember reading the Hoot was contacted by Brides Magazine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t know that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll have to ask him when we talk to him."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.81461759231902, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hoot and I knew we were pretty serious. We went out to dinner for Valentine’s Day, and we went to Galveston to one of the seafood restaurants there and walked out on the pier, and in the midst of that he asked me to marry him. Of course I said yes, because we’d been thinking about that for a while and then we discussed when. We were both just so incredibly busy getting ready for STS-1 that we knew that we would have to wait till after that got off the ground to set a date and begin the planning. We did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I remember reading the Hoot was contacted by Brides Magazine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t know that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll have to ask him when we talk to him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "By the way, he said he would be happy to talk to you, it’s just today is insane, and his schedule is insane. He does have your email, and he will eventually be happy to sit down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll figure whenever he’s got that block we’ll be ready."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 19.794019547021133, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn’t know that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll have to ask him when we talk to him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "By the way, he said he would be happy to talk to you, it’s just today is insane, and his schedule is insane. He does have your email, and he will eventually be happy to sit down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll figure whenever he’s got that block we’ll be ready."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I told him that it’d be wonderful to have a transcript of things that the kids kind of knew or didn’t know. He’s excited about doing that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll look forward to talking with him.\n\nI was also thinking, if you want, we could try a joint session between the two of you, and then do his oral history separately, if you want to do something like that. That might be interesting. Also People Magazine covered your [marriage]. I think they had a three-page spread. They talked about the possibility of you two flying in space at some point. Was that ever a reality, do you think?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 20.88224394113459, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "By the way, he said he would be happy to talk to you, it’s just today is insane, and his schedule is insane. He does have your email, and he will eventually be happy to sit down."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll figure whenever he’s got that block we’ll be ready."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I told him that it’d be wonderful to have a transcript of things that the kids kind of knew or didn’t know. He’s excited about doing that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll look forward to talking with him.\n\nI was also thinking, if you want, we could try a joint session between the two of you, and then do his oral history separately, if you want to do something like that. That might be interesting. Also People Magazine covered your [marriage]. I think they had a three-page spread. They talked about the possibility of you two flying in space at some point. Was that ever a reality, do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I didn’t feel like NASA was going to do that. I suppose there was an unwritten rule that they didn’t put married couples in the same flight. Not that anybody ever said, “No, that won’t ever happen,” but I think I knew that. I only vaguely remember that article. But yes I guess they did. It was unusual."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I thought it was interesting. Did Anna Fisher and Bill [William F.] Fisher offer any advice? I know that they had a lot of interest in the two of them because she was selected, he wasn’t, but they were married, and then he got selected."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 16.535826601260656, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I told him that it’d be wonderful to have a transcript of things that the kids kind of knew or didn’t know. He’s excited about doing that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We’ll look forward to talking with him.\n\nI was also thinking, if you want, we could try a joint session between the two of you, and then do his oral history separately, if you want to do something like that. That might be interesting. Also People Magazine covered your [marriage]. I think they had a three-page spread. They talked about the possibility of you two flying in space at some point. Was that ever a reality, do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I didn’t feel like NASA was going to do that. I suppose there was an unwritten rule that they didn’t put married couples in the same flight. Not that anybody ever said, “No, that won’t ever happen,” but I think I knew that. I only vaguely remember that article. But yes I guess they did. It was unusual."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I thought it was interesting. Did Anna Fisher and Bill [William F.] Fisher offer any advice? I know that they had a lot of interest in the two of them because she was selected, he wasn’t, but they were married, and then he got selected."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then he selected. I don’t remember a whole lot of discussion about that. Their situation was a little different. We had talked over time about the two of them, but I don’t remember there being any discussion about it. I think the only thing that Bill, Anna, and I did together—after Kristin was born someone requested the four of us with our two babies, and pictures were made for some magazine or newspaper, because I’ve got the picture. Kristin probably two months old, and Paul squirming trying to get away. They were just about a year’s difference between them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’ll have to go and see if I can find it. There was a married couple on your husband’s flight, on STS-47."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:24", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.039807334734062, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I didn’t feel like NASA was going to do that. I suppose there was an unwritten rule that they didn’t put married couples in the same flight. Not that anybody ever said, “No, that won’t ever happen,” but I think I knew that. I only vaguely remember that article. But yes I guess they did. It was unusual."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I thought it was interesting. Did Anna Fisher and Bill [William F.] Fisher offer any advice? I know that they had a lot of interest in the two of them because she was selected, he wasn’t, but they were married, and then he got selected."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then he selected. I don’t remember a whole lot of discussion about that. Their situation was a little different. We had talked over time about the two of them, but I don’t remember there being any discussion about it. I think the only thing that Bill, Anna, and I did together—after Kristin was born someone requested the four of us with our two babies, and pictures were made for some magazine or newspaper, because I’ve got the picture. Kristin probably two months old, and Paul squirming trying to get away. They were just about a year’s difference between them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’ll have to go and see if I can find it. There was a married couple on your husband’s flight, on STS-47."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They married each other after they’d been training for a long time. They didn’t have any children, and it was difficult to decide who to take off the flight, if they were going to do that, and so they let them fly together. They did tell us it was an unwritten rule, that they really didn’t want to do that. There were several married couples along the way in the Astronaut Office. I guess they just wanted to formally tell us, “We’re making an exception for [N.] Jan [Davis] and Mark [C. Lee], but we don’t want any other married couples to fly together.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The press was definitely interested in that flight. Did you offer any advice to Sally and Steve [Steven A. Hawley], when they announced that they were engaged?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:26", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 16.7108970385934, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then he selected. I don’t remember a whole lot of discussion about that. Their situation was a little different. We had talked over time about the two of them, but I don’t remember there being any discussion about it. I think the only thing that Bill, Anna, and I did together—after Kristin was born someone requested the four of us with our two babies, and pictures were made for some magazine or newspaper, because I’ve got the picture. Kristin probably two months old, and Paul squirming trying to get away. They were just about a year’s difference between them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I’ll have to go and see if I can find it. There was a married couple on your husband’s flight, on STS-47."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They married each other after they’d been training for a long time. They didn’t have any children, and it was difficult to decide who to take off the flight, if they were going to do that, and so they let them fly together. They did tell us it was an unwritten rule, that they really didn’t want to do that. There were several married couples along the way in the Astronaut Office. I guess they just wanted to formally tell us, “We’re making an exception for [N.] Jan [Davis] and Mark [C. Lee], but we don’t want any other married couples to fly together.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The press was definitely interested in that flight. Did you offer any advice to Sally and Steve [Steven A. Hawley], when they announced that they were engaged?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don’t think they needed any advice. We congratulated them, thought that was swell, and knew them both very well. We were happy for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there much interest in the wedding when you came here to be married?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:28", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 15.234330042881554, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They married each other after they’d been training for a long time. They didn’t have any children, and it was difficult to decide who to take off the flight, if they were going to do that, and so they let them fly together. They did tell us it was an unwritten rule, that they really didn’t want to do that. There were several married couples along the way in the Astronaut Office. I guess they just wanted to formally tell us, “We’re making an exception for [N.] Jan [Davis] and Mark [C. Lee], but we don’t want any other married couples to fly together.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The press was definitely interested in that flight. Did you offer any advice to Sally and Steve [Steven A. Hawley], when they announced that they were engaged?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don’t think they needed any advice. We congratulated them, thought that was swell, and knew them both very well. We were happy for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there much interest in the wedding when you came here to be married?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was. There were press pictures and things like that, I think, but this is a fairly small town. The press wasn’t allowed in the church or in the reception. They snapped some photos of us coming out of the church, but that was about it. There was a big write-up in the local paper, because it was of local interest. We had a very small wedding at the church that my great-grandparents attended. Just some very close family friends, because it was a small church. Then we had a big reception out at the country club so it was a good time. There were a fair number of my friends still in town, but a lot of friends, people that my parents knew well, so it was probably 80, 90 percent my parents’ friends. My mother had died by then. My mother died in ’76, rather suddenly. I married in ’81. It was mostly my dad and couples and friends that they had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You married very soon after STS-1 launched."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:30", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.482588936535059, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don’t think they needed any advice. We congratulated them, thought that was swell, and knew them both very well. We were happy for them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there much interest in the wedding when you came here to be married?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was. There were press pictures and things like that, I think, but this is a fairly small town. The press wasn’t allowed in the church or in the reception. They snapped some photos of us coming out of the church, but that was about it. There was a big write-up in the local paper, because it was of local interest. We had a very small wedding at the church that my great-grandparents attended. Just some very close family friends, because it was a small church. Then we had a big reception out at the country club so it was a good time. There were a fair number of my friends still in town, but a lot of friends, people that my parents knew well, so it was probably 80, 90 percent my parents’ friends. My mother had died by then. My mother died in ’76, rather suddenly. I married in ’81. It was mostly my dad and couples and friends that they had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You married very soon after STS-1 launched."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We married May 30th. The launch was the 12th of April, and the landing was the 14th. Then I came home and planned a wedding real quick. The biggest thing was getting the country club, because it’s usually booked up for weddings that time of year. But because it wasn’t quite June, it was available. We just scurried around and got it all done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How would you describe your family experience, having grown up in a household where your parents weren’t astronauts?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:40", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.406677397644426, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes. That worked and was acceptable, and they gave us a chance to try it out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Would you tell us about testing that product?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m trying to think. I think we flew in the KC-135. I remember the idea was to try to get two voids during the flight so you didn’t just have one opportunity. We would try to go with a full bladder and void. They had a little bathroom area or curtained area where we could be. Then try to drink enough water that you could pee again before the thing landed. I don’t remember an awful lot about it. It was a fairly simple solution that was acceptable. At the time I don’t think they had diapers for adults so this was a very expensive thing. They measured you and form-fitted you. It was like a panty girdle with an absorbent middle section. I think there was comment about how much they each cost. We didn’t have anything to do with it. We needed something. Obviously we couldn’t use the male variety. We didn’t take them on cross-country trips with us or anything like that. We had a few to try out and then once we were happy with it they just put it on board for us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there ever any complaints or concerns that anyone voiced?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don’t think really. They’re fairly comfortable. I think the only thing is because of the padding they made you look heavy. You put your flight suit on, and you looked like a sausage. I never did any of the suit training, so I can’t tell you whether people were comfortable in the EVA suits. I thought of all of the ideas they came up with, that one was the simplest and easiest and most reliable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about the Shuttle’s waste collection system? They had to come up with a way for women to use the bathroom in space. Did you play a role in testing that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:46", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 17.293110284834604, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I got called over one day to test the seat belt on the toilet. They had several different designs, you know a seat belt type seat belt. But you couldn’t get stable that way. They finally came up with the thigh bars. That was one of the things that I tried out. I went over to the water tank on scuba and just sat on a simulated toilet seat and tried seat belt this way, seat belt this way, thigh bars this way. It was pretty obvious to everybody who tried it that the thigh bars were the things you needed and that they were very simple, easy to use, and kept you very stable, didn’t have to hold on to anything. That was my big contribution to the space program. [Laughs]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Quite important actually. Did you do any testing in the KC-135? Was that required as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I remember testing out the urine funnel on the KC. It wasn’t entirely satisfactory. Number one, you had 30 seconds or less. The KC, it’s sort of weightless, but because it’s a little bit up and down, you can’t make it entirely smooth. I’m not sure that we were really comfortable that it would work well for women, the urine funnel, until Sally flew and said, “Works fine.” So that was one that in theory it could work; it worked sort of okay on the KC, but you really didn’t get a good chance to use it until you got to space. Everybody knew that, and had extra toilet paper, so that if urine got out, you got to go chase it around."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did it perform well on Sally’s flight?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She said it did. Seems like we talked after her flight and asked a few questions about the stuff that was female-related, not much stuff. The toilet was. She said, “Yes, make sure you do this, make sure you do that.” I don’t even remember what it was. She said, “It works fine.”"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What were some of the other female issues you guys discussed when she came back?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:64", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 30.969013321426583, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly. Exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about undergarments in space? Was that something that you supplied or was it something NASA supplied?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think that’s something that might have changed, that at first we supplied them. That’s what it was, I think. We went out and bought them. “These are what we’re happy with; this is the size I need.” They had certain specifications about what you could and couldn’t have. We bought them, they reimbursed us, and then they stowed them on board. Then, I think, they discovered sports bras that don’t have to be individually sized. The women were wearing those to run in anyway. So I think that changed. It may be different now, but it seems like to me we went to standard underwear. It was yours, and it got stowed for you, but it wasn’t stuff that you went out and bought. I think they bought it for us. I can’t remember exactly, but I think that’s close to what it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were these items stowed?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You had a clothes locker. Everybody had, I think, two clothes lockers. Everything was rolled up very tight and put in the clothing lockers. You knew where yours was, and everybody else knew where theirs was. It had your color on it. All your stuff was in there. Of course it was packed for launch. It was all just wadded up as tight as they could get it. If you ever took stuff out, if it ever came out, you’d never get it back in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Amy’s dissertation she had a quote from Kathy about a dress code. Do you remember any discussions about a dress code for female astronauts?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00523:96", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 21, "return_to_go": 56.72231370531861, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was unspoken, because certainly the six of us didn’t get together and say. “Well I think I’ll be first.” “No, I’ll be first.” Maybe there were groups of two that got together that said, “How come she got that assignment?” I don’t remember there really being any discussion about it. We were all doing different things. We all had our own specialty areas. I don’t remember there being discussion about it.\\n\\n As I recall, we probably all congratulated Sally and told her how happy we were for her and told her that we were her backup crew, all of us. We were there to support her in that flight, because it was important to all of us that she do well. I think she knew that, and it was a responsibility for her. She didn’t want to mess anything up and have somebody say, “Oh well, that’s what you get when you fly women.” She trained hard; she did a great job. She got along well with her crew; the flight was fine. It all just worked out great."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there ever any issues that popped up in the midst of training that you all had to deal with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, as I say, Sally often asked us, “What do we want to do about this, and this question has been asked, how do we deal with it?” Other than the ones that I’ve talked about, I don’t really remember any."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you at her launch?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was. We all went down there for her launch. John Denver was there. Had dinner with Bonnie [J. Dunbar] and John Denver, which was fun. John Denver sang at the reception the night before for her. It was a spectacular launch. Lots of important women were there. It was pretty exciting, and all of us were very happy for her and had our fingers crossed that all was going to go well. It did. It was a very important milestone, I think, for NASA, and it was good to be a part of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Tell us about the day that you learned you had been selected for a flight."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:7", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.380242387703106, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, 1943. I worked for two years. I left in ’45 and got married. In those two years, I learned a lot. In fact, Richard [V.] Rhode—I don’t know whether you know who he is—he was the section head. Actually, the whole Aircraft Loads Division was under him. He finally went to Washington [DC]. Then Phil [Philip] Donely became my section head. He was very good to me. He gave me a lot of good jobs and so forth—interesting jobs. Do you know what the V-G recorders were?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned that on the phone, so I was going to get you to explain that and tell me what you did with that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A V-G recorder measures gravity and speed. The two are related quite a bit. That’s what Phil Donely gave me. I was in charge of that. What I had to do—they put it on the P-40 [Warhawk “single-seat” fighter] plane. That’s what the V-G recorder was put on. I would have to crawl up in the cockpit. Of course, that was in the days before girls wore slacks. The plane had to be running. You had to smoke a little glass and put it in, and that would give you a basic curve. You measured everything from that one curve. The motor had to be running on the plane when you did that. It would scratch a little line. That would be the zero [basic] curve, because you weren’t going anywhere. The pilots were lined up on the side. Oh, gracious! When they turned that motor on, you can guess what happened. I was pretty embarrassed. My dress went straight up over my head."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They were lined up, probably knowing what was going to happen."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They knew what was going to happen. They knew every bit of what was going to happen. I got even with them later."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I definitely want to hear that!"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.978047097447895, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A V-G recorder measures gravity and speed. The two are related quite a bit. That’s what Phil Donely gave me. I was in charge of that. What I had to do—they put it on the P-40 [Warhawk “single-seat” fighter] plane. That’s what the V-G recorder was put on. I would have to crawl up in the cockpit. Of course, that was in the days before girls wore slacks. The plane had to be running. You had to smoke a little glass and put it in, and that would give you a basic curve. You measured everything from that one curve. The motor had to be running on the plane when you did that. It would scratch a little line. That would be the zero [basic] curve, because you weren’t going anywhere. The pilots were lined up on the side. Oh, gracious! When they turned that motor on, you can guess what happened. I was pretty embarrassed. My dress went straight up over my head."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They were lined up, probably knowing what was going to happen."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They knew what was going to happen. They knew every bit of what was going to happen. I got even with them later."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I definitely want to hear that!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then, I would have to go back in the plane, take the glass out, plot the curve, and work out the equations. That was a very, very good opportunity for me, which I enjoyed. I just loved doing that. I did that for almost two years. [Figures 2 and 2(a)]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there other women that were up in the planes putting things in them, or were you the only one?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 17.753385663830993, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They knew what was going to happen. They knew every bit of what was going to happen. I got even with them later."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I definitely want to hear that!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then, I would have to go back in the plane, take the glass out, plot the curve, and work out the equations. That was a very, very good opportunity for me, which I enjoyed. I just loved doing that. I did that for almost two years. [Figures 2 and 2(a)]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there other women that were up in the planes putting things in them, or were you the only one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was the only one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was quite an accomplishment for that time."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 14.170428515367771, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then, I would have to go back in the plane, take the glass out, plot the curve, and work out the equations. That was a very, very good opportunity for me, which I enjoyed. I just loved doing that. I did that for almost two years. [Figures 2 and 2(a)]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there other women that were up in the planes putting things in them, or were you the only one?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was the only one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was quite an accomplishment for that time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was very unusual, but Phil Donely—he was determined that he was going to make an engineer out of me. He was so disappointed when I got married. That was okay, too, but he was always very good to me. I worked the graveyard shift a lot, and that meant I had to get on the bus at midnight and ride the bus about—oh, gracious—it seemed like at least 40 miles to where I lived, even though it was more like 7 miles. Woo Matheny lived about two blocks from where I lived. That rascal—he got on the bus with me and got off the bus with me, walked me to my door, told me goodnight, and he walked home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was nice of him."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 13.522698350408634, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was the only one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was quite an accomplishment for that time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was very unusual, but Phil Donely—he was determined that he was going to make an engineer out of me. He was so disappointed when I got married. That was okay, too, but he was always very good to me. I worked the graveyard shift a lot, and that meant I had to get on the bus at midnight and ride the bus about—oh, gracious—it seemed like at least 40 miles to where I lived, even though it was more like 7 miles. Woo Matheny lived about two blocks from where I lived. That rascal—he got on the bus with me and got off the bus with me, walked me to my door, told me goodnight, and he walked home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was nice of him."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He did that because he did not want me to be walking at midnight by myself. So, you see—the Lord took care of me. I felt very blessed. I really did feel blessed. That’s most of my career in [NACA]. I worked with the V-G recorder. They did also put me in one of the tanks [Langley Tow Tanks] one time for a short time. We had a couple of tanks where they did experiments on the water. The tanks were full of water. You probably never heard of that, but we did have a couple of those. I did a little bit of stuff, but I don’t really remember exactly what I did on them. I do remember going into the tank and taking data at that time. [Figure 3]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s interesting. I didn’t realize they did that at Langley."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.879874506677325, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He did that because he did not want me to be walking at midnight by myself. So, you see—the Lord took care of me. I felt very blessed. I really did feel blessed. That’s most of my career in [NACA]. I worked with the V-G recorder. They did also put me in one of the tanks [Langley Tow Tanks] one time for a short time. We had a couple of tanks where they did experiments on the water. The tanks were full of water. You probably never heard of that, but we did have a couple of those. I did a little bit of stuff, but I don’t really remember exactly what I did on them. I do remember going into the tank and taking data at that time. [Figure 3]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s interesting. I didn’t realize they did that at Langley."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can see it right now. It was close to the full-scale tunnel. Another thing that I had that I thought was so beneficial to me—I got acquainted with a lot of the test pilots, therefore, that opened up avenues for me to learn a lot about what they were doing.\\n\\n I remember Don [Donald E.] Hewes. I don’t know whether you’ve heard of Don. Don is the one that invented the apparatus that taught the people that went to the Moon to walk on the Moon [Reduced Gravity Simulator]. The gravity, of course, is different. Don was an engineer, he was a private pilot and a very good friend of mine, so therefore, I got to know him pretty well and what he was doing, too. He was the one who invented that apparatus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it like a simulator?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. It was on the West Area of the field, but there was a big, big space. The test pilots were the people that used it. They put a harness around them so that the gravity was different, so therefore, they simulated the conditions that it would be on the Moon. Don is the one who invented it—he was lying on the sofa, he said, when he thought of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You never know where that’s going to hit."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.33317840330534, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. It was on the West Area of the field, but there was a big, big space. The test pilots were the people that used it. They put a harness around them so that the gravity was different, so therefore, they simulated the conditions that it would be on the Moon. Don is the one who invented it—he was lying on the sofa, he said, when he thought of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You never know where that’s going to hit."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You never know what’s coming through his head, too. I knew Don very well. He was a singer, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was he?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we sang a lot together, so I knew him a lot. His wife was one of my best friends. She just died about a year ago. Don built his own plane and put a Volkswagen engine in it. They flew that plane all over the country. It’s amazing. They found him lying under that plane [at Patrick Henry Airport], dead [he had a heart attack]. That’s how he died—where he wanted to be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Doing what he wanted to do, I’m sure."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.592420448117043, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You never know what’s coming through his head, too. I knew Don very well. He was a singer, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was he?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we sang a lot together, so I knew him a lot. His wife was one of my best friends. She just died about a year ago. Don built his own plane and put a Volkswagen engine in it. They flew that plane all over the country. It’s amazing. They found him lying under that plane [at Patrick Henry Airport], dead [he had a heart attack]. That’s how he died—where he wanted to be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Doing what he wanted to do, I’m sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You’ve just about got my whole story."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were fresh out of college and relatively young. What did your family think when you were going to get on this train and come all of the way to Hampton by yourself? Well, you had other people, but young girls travelling and then not really knowing what you were coming to."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.769356053463381, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we sang a lot together, so I knew him a lot. His wife was one of my best friends. She just died about a year ago. Don built his own plane and put a Volkswagen engine in it. They flew that plane all over the country. It’s amazing. They found him lying under that plane [at Patrick Henry Airport], dead [he had a heart attack]. That’s how he died—where he wanted to be."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Doing what he wanted to do, I’m sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You’ve just about got my whole story."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were fresh out of college and relatively young. What did your family think when you were going to get on this train and come all of the way to Hampton by yourself? Well, you had other people, but young girls travelling and then not really knowing what you were coming to."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, my daddy was a pharmacist. He had two drugstores. It was a tough life, because it was back in the days—it was during the Depression, and so, therefore, they were happy I had a job. That’s the honest truth. They were just happy that I had a job and that I could support myself. In those days, we didn’t have to worry about our safety. You didn’t. I never felt threatened or anything—never. Therefore, I felt that I was perfectly safe everywhere I went. It never occurred to me that I could have been in any danger.\\n\\n I had a job that paid well and that was interesting. I was never bored. I was fortunate that I had people that were over me that gave me credit for having some sense."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even today, women have problems with that."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 13.07706228162598, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You’ve just about got my whole story."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were fresh out of college and relatively young. What did your family think when you were going to get on this train and come all of the way to Hampton by yourself? Well, you had other people, but young girls travelling and then not really knowing what you were coming to."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, my daddy was a pharmacist. He had two drugstores. It was a tough life, because it was back in the days—it was during the Depression, and so, therefore, they were happy I had a job. That’s the honest truth. They were just happy that I had a job and that I could support myself. In those days, we didn’t have to worry about our safety. You didn’t. I never felt threatened or anything—never. Therefore, I felt that I was perfectly safe everywhere I went. It never occurred to me that I could have been in any danger.\\n\\n I had a job that paid well and that was interesting. I was never bored. I was fortunate that I had people that were over me that gave me credit for having some sense."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even today, women have problems with that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Never—in that division, we were always given the greatest respect. They gave us jobs that really gave us some credit. They really did. I felt very, very fortunate that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember what your salary was when you first started?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.418958090695533, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, you know, my daddy was a pharmacist. He had two drugstores. It was a tough life, because it was back in the days—it was during the Depression, and so, therefore, they were happy I had a job. That’s the honest truth. They were just happy that I had a job and that I could support myself. In those days, we didn’t have to worry about our safety. You didn’t. I never felt threatened or anything—never. Therefore, I felt that I was perfectly safe everywhere I went. It never occurred to me that I could have been in any danger.\\n\\n I had a job that paid well and that was interesting. I was never bored. I was fortunate that I had people that were over me that gave me credit for having some sense."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Even today, women have problems with that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Never—in that division, we were always given the greatest respect. They gave us jobs that really gave us some credit. They really did. I felt very, very fortunate that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember what your salary was when you first started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can remember the first one. It was 60 dollars a month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh my goodness! You were excited, weren’t you?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 14.909953434106148, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Never—in that division, we were always given the greatest respect. They gave us jobs that really gave us some credit. They really did. I felt very, very fortunate that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you remember what your salary was when you first started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can remember the first one. It was 60 dollars a month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh my goodness! You were excited, weren’t you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a lot of money!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you first came here, coming from South Carolina and then coming to this area but arriving at Langley, and the wind tunnels and that sort of thing, what were your first impressions of what you had walked into?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.233281593451276, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can remember the first one. It was 60 dollars a month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh my goodness! You were excited, weren’t you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a lot of money!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you first came here, coming from South Carolina and then coming to this area but arriving at Langley, and the wind tunnels and that sort of thing, what were your first impressions of what you had walked into?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was probably pretty much awestruck, overwhelmed quite a bit, and I would go to this huge tunnel—the 16-foot [16-foot High Speed Tunnel]. The 19-foot was in the East Area. This one was over on the West Area. Anyway, I went inside of that thing and looked at the propeller. I was amazed. That thing was big. I had no idea it was that big. Boy, when they put the air going through that thing, it was a lot of air."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, you were there from ’43 to ’45? You met your husband there?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 14.703646214945861, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a lot of money!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you first came here, coming from South Carolina and then coming to this area but arriving at Langley, and the wind tunnels and that sort of thing, what were your first impressions of what you had walked into?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was probably pretty much awestruck, overwhelmed quite a bit, and I would go to this huge tunnel—the 16-foot [16-foot High Speed Tunnel]. The 19-foot was in the East Area. This one was over on the West Area. Anyway, I went inside of that thing and looked at the propeller. I was amazed. That thing was big. I had no idea it was that big. Boy, when they put the air going through that thing, it was a lot of air."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, you were there from ’43 to ’45? You met your husband there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was he doing?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.745242240673903, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was he doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was an engineer. He was a civil engineer and some of his work involved wind tunnel design. He was also a project engineer for the Jefferson Lab [Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Facility]. You know what the Jefferson Lab is. That’s here, but the universities took it over. He was in charge of that construction when they were building it. That job just about finished him off. He was really worn out when that thing was finished, but he travelled all over. There were two other cyclotrons in this country. One was in California, and one was in the Midwest. I can’t remember where, though, but he had to visit them quite a bit.\\n\\n He was gone a lot. He just practically lived over there at the construction site. Then, when the universities took it over, he got out of the picture altogether. He was head of the whole project, which was a big, big job. He was a smart man. You would never know it, though, because he never flaunted it. He was a very quiet type of person, but he knew what was going on all of the time. I think he helped me a lot with that dadgum slide rule.\\n\\n I can remember we [women computers] did not have a calculator. We finally got a Monroe, which did adding and subtracting. Then, finally, we got a Friden, and that did multiplication and division and did the square roots and all that kind of stuff. We were fighting over those things. [Figure 4]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many other mathematicians or computers worked in your area where you worked?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:43", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.828046934082115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was an engineer. He was a civil engineer and some of his work involved wind tunnel design. He was also a project engineer for the Jefferson Lab [Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Facility]. You know what the Jefferson Lab is. That’s here, but the universities took it over. He was in charge of that construction when they were building it. That job just about finished him off. He was really worn out when that thing was finished, but he travelled all over. There were two other cyclotrons in this country. One was in California, and one was in the Midwest. I can’t remember where, though, but he had to visit them quite a bit.\\n\\n He was gone a lot. He just practically lived over there at the construction site. Then, when the universities took it over, he got out of the picture altogether. He was head of the whole project, which was a big, big job. He was a smart man. You would never know it, though, because he never flaunted it. He was a very quiet type of person, but he knew what was going on all of the time. I think he helped me a lot with that dadgum slide rule.\\n\\n I can remember we [women computers] did not have a calculator. We finally got a Monroe, which did adding and subtracting. Then, finally, we got a Friden, and that did multiplication and division and did the square roots and all that kind of stuff. We were fighting over those things. [Figure 4]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many other mathematicians or computers worked in your area where you worked?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The 19-foot was the Central Computer Pool [Figure 1]. That’s really what it was. I would say—oh, golly—10 or 15 altogether in the whole office. We were given different jobs to work on. We shared a desk with somebody else. We didn’t have our own desk. There were two people to a desk. I can remember the one that had shared mine. Oh, boy, was he a dilly!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was he a mathematician also?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:45", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.031163260091239, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many other mathematicians or computers worked in your area where you worked?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The 19-foot was the Central Computer Pool [Figure 1]. That’s really what it was. I would say—oh, golly—10 or 15 altogether in the whole office. We were given different jobs to work on. We shared a desk with somebody else. We didn’t have our own desk. There were two people to a desk. I can remember the one that had shared mine. Oh, boy, was he a dilly!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was he a mathematician also?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. He was not really well-educated. He did equations, but he was not an engineer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, there were some men that were doing the same type of job that you were doing?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.367959177879154, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The 19-foot was the Central Computer Pool [Figure 1]. That’s really what it was. I would say—oh, golly—10 or 15 altogether in the whole office. We were given different jobs to work on. We shared a desk with somebody else. We didn’t have our own desk. There were two people to a desk. I can remember the one that had shared mine. Oh, boy, was he a dilly!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was he a mathematician also?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. He was not really well-educated. He did equations, but he was not an engineer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, there were some men that were doing the same type of job that you were doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. There were very few girls at NACA."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you started?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 14.853287975421281, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. He was not really well-educated. He did equations, but he was not an engineer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So, there were some men that were doing the same type of job that you were doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. There were very few girls at NACA."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Usually, back in those days, everybody went into the computer pool first, and then you were fed out into different sections after you had your basic training. I stayed in the 19-foot for a very short time. Then, Phil Donely took me over. He did a lot for me. He really gave me a lot of responsible jobs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you the only mathematician, at that time, working for him?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.725875528245869, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. There were very few girls at NACA."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you started?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Usually, back in those days, everybody went into the computer pool first, and then you were fed out into different sections after you had your basic training. I stayed in the 19-foot for a very short time. Then, Phil Donely took me over. He did a lot for me. He really gave me a lot of responsible jobs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you the only mathematician, at that time, working for him?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think, probably so, but I don’t remember exactly. There were not very many girls in there. There were some. We have a couple of computers living here—Dot Coleman. She lived on my street. Now, Dot’s health is not good. She went there the same time I did. We both lived on Kecoughtan Road at one time. Do you know where that is? That’s in Hampton. They had an apartment—she and another girl that lived together. They had an apartment on Kecoughtan Road.\\n\\n I later lived in South Hampton in one of the apartments, but those were not built when we first moved here. We just had to rent a room from somebody. Most of it was right around the Chesapeake Boulevard, in that area. We all had to ride buses to and from work to the Langley Field. That seemed like a long ride—believe me—a long one, especially if you’re doing it at midnight. We did take our turns at the midnight shift. We had several shifts. I pulled my share of the midnight shift, but I didn’t mind it. I liked the shift, because it was quiet, and you got your work done. That was fine. I didn’t mind that at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You said you got even with those pilots. I was just wondering if you would tell us how you got even with them—the ones that were watching you."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 9.363340916661, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was a pilot that I got even with. He rode a motorcycle. He asked me to ride the motorcycle with him. It was a cold day. I’ll never forget it. I didn’t have any gloves, I didn’t have a hat or scarf or anything. I was sitting on the back of that motorcycle, and we were going out to[the air field. I was so cold, so I got somebody to take me home in their car, and he got so mad at me. I’ll never forget that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s quite a story."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Jack [John P.] Reeder was a test pilot. I knew him. I taught all of his children in school. I got situated not working at NACA anymore, and I taught school. I loved teaching school. I adored it. I could do it all over again if they’d have me. That was my thing. I taught math, music, and art."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What a combination!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was wonderful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many years did you teach?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.07037879629, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Jack [John P.] Reeder was a test pilot. I knew him. I taught all of his children in school. I got situated not working at NACA anymore, and I taught school. I loved teaching school. I adored it. I could do it all over again if they’d have me. That was my thing. I taught math, music, and art."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What a combination!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was wonderful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many years did you teach?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Almost 20, and I loved every minute. I absolutely adored it. I was made to teach. I was. I think my experience of working in the field like I did made a big difference, because I taught a lot of children that wanted to go into that field. They didn’t get any encouragement from anybody, but they got it from me. I think that helped a whole lot, because I had experienced it, and they could see how much I loved it, and I loved teaching. I just adored teaching, because I like children.\\n\\n I taught in the neighborhood school, so no busing. [Many] walked to school. They would go home after school, change their clothes, and come back to school. They would come back in my room, and they would say, “Mrs. Jaehnig, will you come out and play with us?”\\n\\n I said, “Of course. What do you want to play?” So, I’d go out on the playground and play with them. It was wonderful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What grades did you teach?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.6337542181, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was wonderful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many years did you teach?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Almost 20, and I loved every minute. I absolutely adored it. I was made to teach. I was. I think my experience of working in the field like I did made a big difference, because I taught a lot of children that wanted to go into that field. They didn’t get any encouragement from anybody, but they got it from me. I think that helped a whole lot, because I had experienced it, and they could see how much I loved it, and I loved teaching. I just adored teaching, because I like children.\\n\\n I taught in the neighborhood school, so no busing. [Many] walked to school. They would go home after school, change their clothes, and come back to school. They would come back in my room, and they would say, “Mrs. Jaehnig, will you come out and play with us?”\\n\\n I said, “Of course. What do you want to play?” So, I’d go out on the playground and play with them. It was wonderful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What grades did you teach?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Six and seven—the hardest ones. It’s the hardest age, but I adored it. I adored it. I could handle them. I could give them a dose of their own medicine. I did not have a single discipline problem. I really didn’t. I just loved every minute of it. Just every minute of it—I loved it. I’d go back tomorrow if they’d have me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you first got to Langley, were there a lot of social activities? It was during the war, so was everyone just concentrating on the work, or did they also have the social activities?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:65", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.84414101, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Six and seven—the hardest ones. It’s the hardest age, but I adored it. I adored it. I could handle them. I could give them a dose of their own medicine. I did not have a single discipline problem. I really didn’t. I just loved every minute of it. Just every minute of it—I loved it. I’d go back tomorrow if they’d have me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you first got to Langley, were there a lot of social activities? It was during the war, so was everyone just concentrating on the work, or did they also have the social activities?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they had parties. There was a lot of drinking, which I didn’t get involved in. There was a lot of drinking and all that kind of stuff. These people were just out of school, and they were really spreading their wings. That didn’t make me happy. That didn’t make me happy at all. I wasn’t that type of person. There was a lot of drinking and all that, but I never got involved in all that, but it was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you meet your husband?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He lived in the apartment next door to me. He was the only one that had a car, so we all went for him. He inherited a car from his grandfather. It was a Studebaker. It was a nice car, too. He did a lot of hauling around of people. He was very popular."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I imagine, during that time, because it was hard to get a car during the war."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.3823789, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they had parties. There was a lot of drinking, which I didn’t get involved in. There was a lot of drinking and all that kind of stuff. These people were just out of school, and they were really spreading their wings. That didn’t make me happy. That didn’t make me happy at all. I wasn’t that type of person. There was a lot of drinking and all that, but I never got involved in all that, but it was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you meet your husband?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He lived in the apartment next door to me. He was the only one that had a car, so we all went for him. He inherited a car from his grandfather. It was a Studebaker. It was a nice car, too. He did a lot of hauling around of people. He was very popular."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I imagine, during that time, because it was hard to get a car during the war."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was. We had that Studebaker for a long time after we were married. Having a car was really something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was an interesting time. Rebecca, do you have any questions?\n\nYou mentioned earlier when we were chatting that he went to war as well?\n\nHe joined the service [U.S. Public Health Service – “declared to be a military service and a branch of the land and naval forces of the United States” during WWII]."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.980421, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He lived in the apartment next door to me. He was the only one that had a car, so we all went for him. He inherited a car from his grandfather. It was a Studebaker. It was a nice car, too. He did a lot of hauling around of people. He was very popular."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I imagine, during that time, because it was hard to get a car during the war."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was. We had that Studebaker for a long time after we were married. Having a car was really something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was an interesting time. Rebecca, do you have any questions?\n\nYou mentioned earlier when we were chatting that he went to war as well?\n\nHe joined the service [U.S. Public Health Service – “declared to be a military service and a branch of the land and naval forces of the United States” during WWII]."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. He knew that he was going to be drafted. That was when they had the draft. He knew that his name was going to come up soon, so he went ahead and joined."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you work while he was gone, or were you home?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.42269, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was. We had that Studebaker for a long time after we were married. Having a car was really something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was an interesting time. Rebecca, do you have any questions?\n\nYou mentioned earlier when we were chatting that he went to war as well?\n\nHe joined the service [U.S. Public Health Service – “declared to be a military service and a branch of the land and naval forces of the United States” during WWII]."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. He knew that he was going to be drafted. That was when they had the draft. He knew that his name was going to come up soon, so he went ahead and joined."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you work while he was gone, or were you home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I quit working when I got married, because I didn’t have a job, and he was stationed in Mississippi. They were so backward. Oh, golly! I had a job in Mississippi, but it was nothing to do with aeronautics. I had a job as a classification agent for a cotton bale company. That was the only job you could have. We didn’t have mayonnaise. We didn’t have any shoes. They were all rationed. All of the shoes were made out of cardboard. We couldn’t get salad dressing. We couldn’t get butter. We couldn’t get anything like that, because they were using all of the grease for ammunition, so therefore, we did without a lot of stuff. That didn’t make any difference to us. We didn’t care. He joined the Public Health Service, even though he was not that trained. He did research work for malaria fever. That’s what he was put in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He was a civil engineer, doing research work on malaria. How interesting!"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.9141, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. He knew that he was going to be drafted. That was when they had the draft. He knew that his name was going to come up soon, so he went ahead and joined."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you work while he was gone, or were you home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I quit working when I got married, because I didn’t have a job, and he was stationed in Mississippi. They were so backward. Oh, golly! I had a job in Mississippi, but it was nothing to do with aeronautics. I had a job as a classification agent for a cotton bale company. That was the only job you could have. We didn’t have mayonnaise. We didn’t have any shoes. They were all rationed. All of the shoes were made out of cardboard. We couldn’t get salad dressing. We couldn’t get butter. We couldn’t get anything like that, because they were using all of the grease for ammunition, so therefore, we did without a lot of stuff. That didn’t make any difference to us. We didn’t care. He joined the Public Health Service, even though he was not that trained. He did research work for malaria fever. That’s what he was put in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He was a civil engineer, doing research work on malaria. How interesting!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He got malaria. He did. Yes, he caught malaria. I never will forget it. I thought he’d never get well, but he got it from fooling around with doing experiments with mosquitoes. That’s what they put him on. That’s the way that the government does though."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess so."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.349, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I quit working when I got married, because I didn’t have a job, and he was stationed in Mississippi. They were so backward. Oh, golly! I had a job in Mississippi, but it was nothing to do with aeronautics. I had a job as a classification agent for a cotton bale company. That was the only job you could have. We didn’t have mayonnaise. We didn’t have any shoes. They were all rationed. All of the shoes were made out of cardboard. We couldn’t get salad dressing. We couldn’t get butter. We couldn’t get anything like that, because they were using all of the grease for ammunition, so therefore, we did without a lot of stuff. That didn’t make any difference to us. We didn’t care. He joined the Public Health Service, even though he was not that trained. He did research work for malaria fever. That’s what he was put in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He was a civil engineer, doing research work on malaria. How interesting!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He got malaria. He did. Yes, he caught malaria. I never will forget it. I thought he’d never get well, but he got it from fooling around with doing experiments with mosquitoes. That’s what they put him on. That’s the way that the government does though."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess so."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He stayed just long enough after the war was over, he got out. His former professor offered him a job teaching at the University of Wisconsin. He taught surveying. That’s the way it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did you come back here?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.61, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He got malaria. He did. Yes, he caught malaria. I never will forget it. I thought he’d never get well, but he got it from fooling around with doing experiments with mosquitoes. That’s what they put him on. That’s the way that the government does though."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess so."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He stayed just long enough after the war was over, he got out. His former professor offered him a job teaching at the University of Wisconsin. He taught surveying. That’s the way it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did you come back here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We came back here when it got so cold I couldn’t take it anymore. You go outside, and it’s 20 [degrees] below every night. You wash a diaper, and it freezes before you can put it on the line. It was stiff as a board before you put it on the line. I had to walk as far as from here to the highway to go to the bathroom, but I was happy. I was happy. I was not unhappy a bit.\\n\\n I can remember one night. We heard this sniffling in our tent. I quickly got up. He said, “Do you have anything to eat in here?”\\n\\n I said, “Yeah, I’ve got a candy bar.”\\n\\n He said, “Give it to him.” It was a raccoon. So, I got my candy bar and gave it to that dumb raccoon. We were lucky. We had a floor in our tent, but the top was canvas, and all of these daddy longlegs crawling everywhere. I’ll never forget them. It was hard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But, you made it through."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:81", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He stayed just long enough after the war was over, he got out. His former professor offered him a job teaching at the University of Wisconsin. He taught surveying. That’s the way it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did you come back here?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We came back here when it got so cold I couldn’t take it anymore. You go outside, and it’s 20 [degrees] below every night. You wash a diaper, and it freezes before you can put it on the line. It was stiff as a board before you put it on the line. I had to walk as far as from here to the highway to go to the bathroom, but I was happy. I was happy. I was not unhappy a bit.\\n\\n I can remember one night. We heard this sniffling in our tent. I quickly got up. He said, “Do you have anything to eat in here?”\\n\\n I said, “Yeah, I’ve got a candy bar.”\\n\\n He said, “Give it to him.” It was a raccoon. So, I got my candy bar and gave it to that dumb raccoon. We were lucky. We had a floor in our tent, but the top was canvas, and all of these daddy longlegs crawling everywhere. I’ll never forget them. It was hard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But, you made it through."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were happy. You learned to be happy, I don’t care what your situation is. You learned to be happy, and so it didn’t matter to us. You’d just adjust."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You started teaching when you came back here? Is that when you started, after you had your children?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We came back here when it got so cold I couldn’t take it anymore. You go outside, and it’s 20 [degrees] below every night. You wash a diaper, and it freezes before you can put it on the line. It was stiff as a board before you put it on the line. I had to walk as far as from here to the highway to go to the bathroom, but I was happy. I was happy. I was not unhappy a bit.\\n\\n I can remember one night. We heard this sniffling in our tent. I quickly got up. He said, “Do you have anything to eat in here?”\\n\\n I said, “Yeah, I’ve got a candy bar.”\\n\\n He said, “Give it to him.” It was a raccoon. So, I got my candy bar and gave it to that dumb raccoon. We were lucky. We had a floor in our tent, but the top was canvas, and all of these daddy longlegs crawling everywhere. I’ll never forget them. It was hard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But, you made it through."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were happy. You learned to be happy, I don’t care what your situation is. You learned to be happy, and so it didn’t matter to us. You’d just adjust."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You started teaching when you came back here? Is that when you started, after you had your children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, after my children, I decided I was not going to teach until my children were big enough to come home, and if I’m not there, they’d be okay. They were in the fourth and eighth grades before I started teaching. It was the right thing for me. I loved teaching. I’d go back tomorrow if they’d have me. I really loved teaching."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything we haven’t talked about that you’d like to talk about, or any other experiences, anecdotes, or anything you want to share during your time there?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00944:85", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were happy. You learned to be happy, I don’t care what your situation is. You learned to be happy, and so it didn’t matter to us. You’d just adjust."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You started teaching when you came back here? Is that when you started, after you had your children?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, after my children, I decided I was not going to teach until my children were big enough to come home, and if I’m not there, they’d be okay. They were in the fourth and eighth grades before I started teaching. It was the right thing for me. I loved teaching. I’d go back tomorrow if they’d have me. I really loved teaching."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything we haven’t talked about that you’d like to talk about, or any other experiences, anecdotes, or anything you want to share during your time there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’ll think of a million things tonight. I hope I haven’t disappointed you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, not at all. You’ve told us some things that are pretty interesting.\n\nCrawling up in those planes. Did they ever take you on a plane trip? Did you ever get to ride in one of those planes?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 24.47000067074114, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The first time I heard about it was in the Kennedy speech and a Shriver speech. And then I inquired a little bit more and met her because she was a recruiter on campus."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So but I didn't tell a lot of people that I was interested in the Peace Corps because this would have been seen as something breaking what appeared to be a life that was going to be well-planned. And I would be a high school teacher, probably eventually get a graduate degree and become a high school principal in Chicago, which was considered to be a very wonderful place in our society, a great career and settle down. A normal life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Like so many of my classmates and alums of Chicago Teachers College did. My best friend also did. So I confided to two people that I was going to think about joining the Peace Corps. First of all, my mother. And interestingly enough, Jay, she was really, she was really excited about the idea. She had never traveled anywhere outside of the country at that time, but she thought it was a good idea. Government program. I would learn a foreign language. She figured I'd be in a secure place. And the other person was my best friend from high school who also we went to college together, as my friend Harry Simmons. He thought also it was an interesting idea. Everybody else in my family and circle of friends, they thought this was a crazy idea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Including your dad?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.610053804029087, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At the time, it was one of Peace Corps' largest countries, largest programs. In those days, the big programs, Jay, were Brazil, Philippines, India. Indonesia, not being Indonesia, was still thought of Indonesia. So that's how I ended up being accepted into the Peace Corps. And I was sent to San Diego State College in San Diego, California, for training, along with a hundred other people who were going to be divided between those two countries. So off I went, my first airplane, my first jet airplane trip to San Diego. I left Chicago in early, I guess in October or September, flew out to California and started what was going to be, as it turned out, one of the most momentous decisions of my life."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So how long was your training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was 14 weeks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "14 weeks."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yep, 14 weeks. And from August, actually from August to December. And it covered a wide range of things. It covered both area studies and technical studies. We learned Spanish, student teaching, science and education theory, reading, language arts, general curriculum, community development. We also had a really interesting component of kind of survival training, field training in Mexico. It was in Baja California."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, so you went down to Baja?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 15.122282004476764, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was 14 weeks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "14 weeks."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yep, 14 weeks. And from August, actually from August to December. And it covered a wide range of things. It covered both area studies and technical studies. We learned Spanish, student teaching, science and education theory, reading, language arts, general curriculum, community development. We also had a really interesting component of kind of survival training, field training in Mexico. It was in Baja California."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, so you went down to Baja?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which was an easier thing to do back then."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.73121235120588, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which was an easier thing to do back then."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's right. But it was also the toughest part of a Peace Corps training because we were just dumped down there with a few dollars and told to find our host families and arrange with them to stay with them. And then we would also be assigned to teacher training slots or teacher internships, if you will, in Mexican schools. So that was quite an eye-opening experience. That was the toughest part of our Peace Corps training. It was cold in Baja California. We didn't have much money. I slept in bed with seven children. That's all the families could offer. You know, it was not much food. And my Spanish was rudimentary at best at the time, so it was an eye-opening experience. But so was working in the San Diego County and in Chula Vista schools. That was also eye opening, right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it was really quite an interesting experience. Of course, all of us were trained teachers or had graduated education, and so we all felt very comfortable in the classrooms."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Chula Vista is close to the border and there's a very large Hispanic population there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.256902612450977, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, that's right. But it was also the toughest part of a Peace Corps training because we were just dumped down there with a few dollars and told to find our host families and arrange with them to stay with them. And then we would also be assigned to teacher training slots or teacher internships, if you will, in Mexican schools. So that was quite an eye-opening experience. That was the toughest part of our Peace Corps training. It was cold in Baja California. We didn't have much money. I slept in bed with seven children. That's all the families could offer. You know, it was not much food. And my Spanish was rudimentary at best at the time, so it was an eye-opening experience. But so was working in the San Diego County and in Chula Vista schools. That was also eye opening, right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it was really quite an interesting experience. Of course, all of us were trained teachers or had graduated education, and so we all felt very comfortable in the classrooms."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Chula Vista is close to the border and there's a very large Hispanic population there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were teaching in schools."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.952114013834418, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So it was really quite an interesting experience. Of course, all of us were trained teachers or had graduated education, and so we all felt very comfortable in the classrooms."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Chula Vista is close to the border and there's a very large Hispanic population there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were teaching in schools."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We're teaching kids who were somewhat bilingual, but not entirely. Spanish was really their first language."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let me back up a minute. So your mother was supportive of this? What if she wasn't? What would you have done if she had told you you're crazy?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 18.835682237593797, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were teaching in schools."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We're teaching kids who were somewhat bilingual, but not entirely. Spanish was really their first language."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Let me back up a minute. So your mother was supportive of this? What if she wasn't? What would you have done if she had told you you're crazy?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would have made it harder but I'm pretty sure that by that time, I was pretty much really intrigued by the Peace Corps concept and idea. And I had read a lot about the Peace Corps. The more I read, the more enthusiastic I became, and I don't think it would have changed my decision. Luckily, I didn't have to face that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did the rest of your friends and family kind of come around after a while?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 22.019360787152834, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It would have made it harder but I'm pretty sure that by that time, I was pretty much really intrigued by the Peace Corps concept and idea. And I had read a lot about the Peace Corps. The more I read, the more enthusiastic I became, and I don't think it would have changed my decision. Luckily, I didn't have to face that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did the rest of your friends and family kind of come around after a while?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, no. Not until I've been overseas for about a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, because this was a big mystery. And also, why would somebody who just achieved a great feat of a college degree and had a really great job, which would put me on track to having a great middle class life? Why would I give that up to go to some strange place that no one had ever heard of? To do something they didn't know quite what was going to be the outcome? It was a mystery."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah. Well, back in the, this would have been what, 1966, '67?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 24.465956430169815, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Not really, no. Not until I've been overseas for about a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, because this was a big mystery. And also, why would somebody who just achieved a great feat of a college degree and had a really great job, which would put me on track to having a great middle class life? Why would I give that up to go to some strange place that no one had ever heard of? To do something they didn't know quite what was going to be the outcome? It was a mystery."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah. Well, back in the, this would have been what, 1966, '67?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "'67. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was the time when people didn't travel overseas as much as they do now."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 12, "return_to_go": 27.184396033522017, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, because this was a big mystery. And also, why would somebody who just achieved a great feat of a college degree and had a really great job, which would put me on track to having a great middle class life? Why would I give that up to go to some strange place that no one had ever heard of? To do something they didn't know quite what was going to be the outcome? It was a mystery."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, yeah. Well, back in the, this would have been what, 1966, '67?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "'67. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That was the time when people didn't travel overseas as much as they do now."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. Yeah, travel on an airplane there was, people wore suits, it was very, you know, very formal. You know, you got served your meals on china and glassware and fine silver. So it was a totally different world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Great. So and then you got assigned to Dominican Republic."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 22.627904195427178, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Five being native speaker, four being proficient, and so forth. And I got a one plus. It was probably more like a one minus somehow. And but I was certain that I probably got, I was selected because, first, I had volunteered to go to the Dominican Republic, and secondly, because I was a certified teacher."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I was very confident for some unknown reason that once I got to the D.R., I was going to be able to become more proficient in Spanish. I was just, I had a feeling about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I left with probably the lowest score of anybody of my 100 colleagues, right, and went to the Dominican Republic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was sink or swim."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 22.91989355047464, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I was very confident for some unknown reason that once I got to the D.R., I was going to be able to become more proficient in Spanish. I was just, I had a feeling about that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I left with probably the lowest score of anybody of my 100 colleagues, right, and went to the Dominican Republic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was sink or swim."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sink or swim. So off we went to the Dominican Republic, right? We arrived there. I remember arriving there one dark night. This is, you know, in 1967. Way before the Dominican Republic became a tourist destination."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you arrived at night, so you didn't get to see the country."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 19.91099283386071, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I left with probably the lowest score of anybody of my 100 colleagues, right, and went to the Dominican Republic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was sink or swim."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sink or swim. So off we went to the Dominican Republic, right? We arrived there. I remember arriving there one dark night. This is, you know, in 1967. Way before the Dominican Republic became a tourist destination."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you arrived at night, so you didn't get to see the country."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, we arrived at night. Peace Corps insisted that we go down there before Christmas, which was really a surprise. We couldn't figure out why we had to be there before Christmas. Why didn't we have a chance to go home and share Christmas with our family before we went overseas? But they insisted that we get there before Christmas. Of course, anyone who works and knows Latin America knows that from the 15th of December to the 20th of January, Latin America shuts down. It's a holiday. It's the Christmas season, not just the Christmas. There's also the celebration of the Kings, the Three Kings. And so it was not the greatest time to get the Dominican Republic. So but we went. And so we were sent down around, you know, early December to the Dominican Republic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it planned that way so you would have some transition time, and not schools?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 10, "return_to_go": 16.18298707450255, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they were barely ahead of their classes they were teaching. So the idea would be they would, number one, get a high school diploma over a course of two years. They would then be able to get a chance to be assigned to a school in a metropolitan area or a larger town that would improve their working conditions and also receive a salary increase. To do that, they had to come to the training centers every weekend, they gave up their weekends for two years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So they were working."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In service, in service training. Yeah, they had to give up their weekends and they had to give up their summers for two years. So those are real sacrifices for poor teachers who had families out in the countryside, had to travel back and forth. Then so we taught those in the capacitation centers as we called them. And then we taught all the courses, right? We taught language arts, history, geography, all the math courses, we taught all in Spanish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And these people would have been in their twenties, maybe early 20s?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh no, they were from the early twenties to late fifties. Most of them were much older than we were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Most of them were older."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 8.189280711023544, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I really, in Spanish, you know, and my ability to acquire the accent in Spanish and to understand that, I always had good comprehension. And the acid test in language for me, Jay, I don't know how you feel about this, but is when you're able to converse easily over the telephone. Once you can do that, you've mastered the language because you have no visual clues, right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right, right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I would say within eight to 10 months, I was pretty fluent in Spanish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I had to be, had to teach these courses."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. And their level of English was what? Did they speak English at all?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.654756345581715, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I would say within eight to 10 months, I was pretty fluent in Spanish."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I had to be, had to teach these courses."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. And their level of English was what? Did they speak English at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Very little. Because we're in the rural Dominican Republic and these are people who have a third or fourth, fifth grade education. Very few had a high school education. But they were a wonderful group of people. And so each of us in my center, there were three other, two other volunteers. Three other volunteers. Actually four or five of us at first, then it became three. So we each were assigned an average of 10 to 12 teachers that we were responsible for. So during the week when they were teaching, we would visit them on a circuit by motorcycle or horseback or walking, to observe their teaching methods in their schools. And we spent two or three nights with them. So I actually stayed with the teachers. You know, they fed me, they offered me housing, and I often slept in their houses or ate their food. They really opened up their homes and their hearts to us. We developed a really close working and personal relationships."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you got to see more of the country at the same time."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.171951495090794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because I had to be, had to teach these courses."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. And their level of English was what? Did they speak English at all?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Very little. Because we're in the rural Dominican Republic and these are people who have a third or fourth, fifth grade education. Very few had a high school education. But they were a wonderful group of people. And so each of us in my center, there were three other, two other volunteers. Three other volunteers. Actually four or five of us at first, then it became three. So we each were assigned an average of 10 to 12 teachers that we were responsible for. So during the week when they were teaching, we would visit them on a circuit by motorcycle or horseback or walking, to observe their teaching methods in their schools. And we spent two or three nights with them. So I actually stayed with the teachers. You know, they fed me, they offered me housing, and I often slept in their houses or ate their food. They really opened up their homes and their hearts to us. We developed a really close working and personal relationships."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you got to see more of the country at the same time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah. And all, you know, I mean, I walked I rode a horse, had my own horse. Here I am from the south side of Chicago, and I had to learn how to ride a horse and take care of a horse."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was going to ask about that. So coming from Chicago and going to a place like Dominican Republic, now this was all new to you."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:81", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.746612772323105, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Very little. Because we're in the rural Dominican Republic and these are people who have a third or fourth, fifth grade education. Very few had a high school education. But they were a wonderful group of people. And so each of us in my center, there were three other, two other volunteers. Three other volunteers. Actually four or five of us at first, then it became three. So we each were assigned an average of 10 to 12 teachers that we were responsible for. So during the week when they were teaching, we would visit them on a circuit by motorcycle or horseback or walking, to observe their teaching methods in their schools. And we spent two or three nights with them. So I actually stayed with the teachers. You know, they fed me, they offered me housing, and I often slept in their houses or ate their food. They really opened up their homes and their hearts to us. We developed a really close working and personal relationships."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you got to see more of the country at the same time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah. And all, you know, I mean, I walked I rode a horse, had my own horse. Here I am from the south side of Chicago, and I had to learn how to ride a horse and take care of a horse."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was going to ask about that. So coming from Chicago and going to a place like Dominican Republic, now this was all new to you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Totally new, yeah. And I never spent any time except on a couple of trips to Mississippi in any rural areas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any things that stand out in those first few days that you were there that really?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.385125302581227, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah. And all, you know, I mean, I walked I rode a horse, had my own horse. Here I am from the south side of Chicago, and I had to learn how to ride a horse and take care of a horse."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was going to ask about that. So coming from Chicago and going to a place like Dominican Republic, now this was all new to you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Totally new, yeah. And I never spent any time except on a couple of trips to Mississippi in any rural areas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any things that stand out in those first few days that you were there that really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, sure. I mean, you know, like all Peace Corps volunteers, I had to find my own housing. I had to, you know, deal with getting a latrine built and learn how to use it properly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So there wasn't much support from the Peace Corps."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:85", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.094583669534697, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Totally new, yeah. And I never spent any time except on a couple of trips to Mississippi in any rural areas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you have any things that stand out in those first few days that you were there that really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, sure. I mean, you know, like all Peace Corps volunteers, I had to find my own housing. I had to, you know, deal with getting a latrine built and learn how to use it properly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So there wasn't much support from the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, Peace Corps, well, there was a shortage of housing in my town. So I was taken out to the town by my good friend over time and associate program director, Henry Reynolds. And he told me to talk to the other volunteers to find out how they had found housing and they would help me. So it worked out pretty much that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So there were some other volunteers out there."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:87", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.882870743927441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, sure. I mean, you know, like all Peace Corps volunteers, I had to find my own housing. I had to, you know, deal with getting a latrine built and learn how to use it properly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So there wasn't much support from the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, Peace Corps, well, there was a shortage of housing in my town. So I was taken out to the town by my good friend over time and associate program director, Henry Reynolds. And he told me to talk to the other volunteers to find out how they had found housing and they would help me. So it worked out pretty much that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So there were some other volunteers out there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But housing was short in a town, in that size town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was your house like? You said you had to get a latrine built, so there was no indoor plumbing?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.731939190033877, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But housing was short in a town, in that size town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was your house like? You said you had to get a latrine built, so there was no indoor plumbing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, first of all, I couldn't find my first house. I couldn't find a decent house. So what happened is that I negotiated a deal with a guy who had a deserted house where he was keeping goats. So I negotiated with him that he would remove the goats and I'd take over the house and I would put in the electrical wiring and the indoor plumbing so I'd have running water. But no toilet or like that, no toilet at all. I'd have a shower and running water in the sink."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And so I had to, first of all, clean that house thoroughly after goats had been living there for about a year. I had to share my latrine with a pig that lived right next to the latrine. And I had to learn how to wire a house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, so you did that."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:95", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.014739740782565, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And so I had to, first of all, clean that house thoroughly after goats had been living there for about a year. I had to share my latrine with a pig that lived right next to the latrine. And I had to learn how to wire a house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, so you did that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And get, you know, get myself connected to the central grid, and, you know, I was busy. And of course, also help my Spanish because I had to learn."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All of those different, all that different vocabulary to do all that, right? Negotiate with lots of people, carpenters and plumbers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So you were really roughing it there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:97", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 13.349710823091739, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And get, you know, get myself connected to the central grid, and, you know, I was busy. And of course, also help my Spanish because I had to learn."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All of those different, all that different vocabulary to do all that, right? Negotiate with lots of people, carpenters and plumbers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So you were really roughing it there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And like you said, a big change."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.388567581213042, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All of those different, all that different vocabulary to do all that, right? Negotiate with lots of people, carpenters and plumbers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So you were really roughing it there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And like you said, a big change."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Big change from Chicago. But also I had other volunteers who lived in the town, you know, wonderful people. Judy Thoms was terrific. Actually, Judy Johnson, Thoms is her married name. Victoria Thomas was there. She was very good. And so it was a, we had a good group of people who all worked together. Very collegial."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how were you received by the folks in the local community there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:103", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.825392075571656, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Big change from Chicago. But also I had other volunteers who lived in the town, you know, wonderful people. Judy Thoms was terrific. Actually, Judy Johnson, Thoms is her married name. Victoria Thomas was there. She was very good. And so it was a, we had a good group of people who all worked together. Very collegial."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So how were you received by the folks in the local community there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was wonderful. They were, you know, first of all, they were very tolerant of my rudimentary Spanish at first. They thought it was great that I was trying to speak Spanish and they knew how much I was trying. And the biggest thing of all is that children, the children support you and you can understand children, right? And so they're very patient with you when you learn a new language. So they were a big source of support."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I had a big entourage that followed me around to listen to me maneuver my way in their society."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think you might have mentioned this, but tell me again, how big was this town that you lived in?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:105", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 14.250435639524062, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was wonderful. They were, you know, first of all, they were very tolerant of my rudimentary Spanish at first. They thought it was great that I was trying to speak Spanish and they knew how much I was trying. And the biggest thing of all is that children, the children support you and you can understand children, right? And so they're very patient with you when you learn a new language. So they were a big source of support."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I had a big entourage that followed me around to listen to me maneuver my way in their society."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think you might have mentioned this, but tell me again, how big was this town that you lived in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About two thousand people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Two thousand people. Well, pretty small community."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:107", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 13.611595155026736, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I had a big entourage that followed me around to listen to me maneuver my way in their society."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think you might have mentioned this, but tell me again, how big was this town that you lived in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About two thousand people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Two thousand people. Well, pretty small community."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. So, you know, it was a, you know, it was a very busy job. We had a lot to do. We had worked all year. In the summers, we brought them together and they lived in the town or the community, back and forth to their, traveled back and forth to their rural communities, right? And so it was a busy, busy time and these teachers were sacrificing and we knew they were sacrificing. So we were determined to do everything we could to offer the best possible, highest quality of instruction that we could we could provide. And we had great technical support from the Peace Corps in Santo Domingo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you feel like you accomplished that? Did you have a high passing rate out of the school?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.79066128336304, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "About two thousand people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Two thousand people. Well, pretty small community."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. So, you know, it was a, you know, it was a very busy job. We had a lot to do. We had worked all year. In the summers, we brought them together and they lived in the town or the community, back and forth to their, traveled back and forth to their rural communities, right? And so it was a busy, busy time and these teachers were sacrificing and we knew they were sacrificing. So we were determined to do everything we could to offer the best possible, highest quality of instruction that we could we could provide. And we had great technical support from the Peace Corps in Santo Domingo."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you feel like you accomplished that? Did you have a high passing rate out of the school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did. I think that as I look back and forth, I stayed in touch with some of these teachers over the years. I'd say that probably 70 percent of them went on to become established teachers or went to higher education, went to university or college. Changed professions. I can think of two or three outstanding cases of that, and they were grateful. Unfortunately, the government of the Dominican Republic reneged on their promise, and many of them did not receive their salary increases because of budgetary, national budgetary constraints, so that part of it was not fulfilled for many years until. It actually wasn't fulfilled finally until after our group had departed the Dominican Republic, but we didn't know that at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. Now were there other local staff at the school as well as the Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:113", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.210692942423504, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did. I think that as I look back and forth, I stayed in touch with some of these teachers over the years. I'd say that probably 70 percent of them went on to become established teachers or went to higher education, went to university or college. Changed professions. I can think of two or three outstanding cases of that, and they were grateful. Unfortunately, the government of the Dominican Republic reneged on their promise, and many of them did not receive their salary increases because of budgetary, national budgetary constraints, so that part of it was not fulfilled for many years until. It actually wasn't fulfilled finally until after our group had departed the Dominican Republic, but we didn't know that at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure. Now were there other local staff at the school as well as the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah, we also worked with Dominican counterparts, and they were crucial. As a matter of fact, I tried to recruit a certain young lady by the name of Rosa Mustafa to be our one of our teacher, we used to call them master teachers. She was a very experienced science teacher in the local high school, the regular normal high school in that city. And she refused to work with us. And eventually I married her."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I was unhappy that she decided not to work with us, but I was very happy that she became my wife. We've been married for 50 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At least your recruitment was successful in some way."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:115", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 12.456325491581671, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yeah, we also worked with Dominican counterparts, and they were crucial. As a matter of fact, I tried to recruit a certain young lady by the name of Rosa Mustafa to be our one of our teacher, we used to call them master teachers. She was a very experienced science teacher in the local high school, the regular normal high school in that city. And she refused to work with us. And eventually I married her."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I was unhappy that she decided not to work with us, but I was very happy that she became my wife. We've been married for 50 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "At least your recruitment was successful in some way."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. But we had really marvelous Dominican counterparts who were our master teachers. They worked with us also. So the combination of American teachers, volunteer teachers, and Dominican teachers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then did you establish some good relationships with those folks there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.909043816767493, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. But we had really marvelous Dominican counterparts who were our master teachers. They worked with us also. So the combination of American teachers, volunteer teachers, and Dominican teachers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then did you establish some good relationships with those folks there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, yeah. Very much so. It was a very warm, welcoming community. The Dominican society at that time was still suffering from the invasion, and there was a certain degree of anti-Americanism, but it was primarily in Santo Domingo. I didn't experience any of that per se in my town, nor did the other volunteers per se. But the invasion was in 1965, so it wasn't that far removed. Sometimes when you'd go to the capital and people heard you speaking English and knew you were an American, you know, they'd hassle you. There was still some lingering resentment. But overall, it was a very welcoming environment for the Americans, the Peace Corps volunteers.\n\nAlso Peace Corps volunteers were highly regarded in Dominican Republic because during the revolution in 1965, Peace Corps volunteers had actually helped and worked with the rebels because they felt that this was a justifiable revolution. And so their reputation was, they were highly regarded. They had a great reputation in the Dominican Republic. They were, Peace Corps volunteers were highly regarded."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nurses that helped wounded rebels. Some Peace Corps volunteers organized feeding centers in areas that were blockaded by the troops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Peace Corps wasn't pulled out during the revolution."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.343382018630548, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, yeah. Very much so. It was a very warm, welcoming community. The Dominican society at that time was still suffering from the invasion, and there was a certain degree of anti-Americanism, but it was primarily in Santo Domingo. I didn't experience any of that per se in my town, nor did the other volunteers per se. But the invasion was in 1965, so it wasn't that far removed. Sometimes when you'd go to the capital and people heard you speaking English and knew you were an American, you know, they'd hassle you. There was still some lingering resentment. But overall, it was a very welcoming environment for the Americans, the Peace Corps volunteers.\n\nAlso Peace Corps volunteers were highly regarded in Dominican Republic because during the revolution in 1965, Peace Corps volunteers had actually helped and worked with the rebels because they felt that this was a justifiable revolution. And so their reputation was, they were highly regarded. They had a great reputation in the Dominican Republic. They were, Peace Corps volunteers were highly regarded."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nurses that helped wounded rebels. Some Peace Corps volunteers organized feeding centers in areas that were blockaded by the troops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Peace Corps wasn't pulled out during the revolution."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were. Some were, but some stayed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some stayed. They stayed on their own?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:123", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.93709113181172, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nurses that helped wounded rebels. Some Peace Corps volunteers organized feeding centers in areas that were blockaded by the troops."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Peace Corps wasn't pulled out during the revolution."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were. Some were, but some stayed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some stayed. They stayed on their own?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, no. Not on their own, they stayed with Peace Corps staff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, OK. Interesting."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:127", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.564310039273728, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, no. Not on their own, they stayed with Peace Corps staff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, OK. Interesting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But that was before I had arrived. So I benefited from that goodwill that was generated by the volunteers who had aligned themselves with the rebel cause."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And obviously."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Much to the consternation of the U.S. government."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And obviously the local, your local counterparts respected your abilities and your efforts and were grateful for your efforts?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:129", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 12, "return_to_go": 20.627011154748587, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But that was before I had arrived. So I benefited from that goodwill that was generated by the volunteers who had aligned themselves with the rebel cause."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And obviously."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Much to the consternation of the U.S. government."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And obviously the local, your local counterparts respected your abilities and your efforts and were grateful for your efforts?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, they were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You felt like your job was meaningful?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:137", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.666074005103772, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And so they selected four or five volunteers who were fluent in Spanish and had the technical expertise to come teach at the Catholic university. So I was one of the individuals that they asked to go and teach. And I was assigned to the faculty of education. And so in the faculty of education, I designed a student teaching course for the seniors at the university, which was very similar to the student teaching that I had experienced at Chicago Teachers College in the city of Chicago. So it was an incredible opportunity that only the Peace Corps could offer someone who had didn't have a lot of experience like in my case. But by that time, of course, I knew the Dominican school system very well, K through 12. I taught all the subjects and I knew a number of the officials in the Dominican Ministry of Education. And so Father Arroyo interviewed me and decided to give me a chance. And so Rosa and I moved to Santiago, which was also the region of the country where she had been born. It was her native area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, OK. So she was happy to go back."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was happy to go back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I wonder now, how far into your volunteer term were you when you got married?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was in your second year there."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:139", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.74008222789308, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She was happy to go back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I wonder now, how far into your volunteer term were you when you got married?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was in your second year there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Second year, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Been in country for a year and a half or so."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:141", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.933424697658976, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The last year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was in your second year there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Second year, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Been in country for a year and a half or so."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two years, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I think that your life changed or your situation changed, being married."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:143", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.25936077517664, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Second year, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Been in country for a year and a half or so."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two years, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I think that your life changed or your situation changed, being married."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Dramatically."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Being married to a local."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:145", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 14.7326230835296, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Two years, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I think that your life changed or your situation changed, being married."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Dramatically."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Being married to a local."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, in what ways do you think it was different after being married?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:147", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 14.147358981699554, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Dramatically."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Being married to a local."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, in what ways do you think it was different after being married?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, it wasn't that different because we were both educators and we were starting out a new experience at the Catholic university, right? So I think that she was in school and also teaching in a high school in Santiago. I was at the university. It was an exciting time. We were, of course, surrounded by young faculty just like ourselves, many of them recently married. We made great friendships that lasted our lifetime. The university was a special place because the idea was to create a modern American style university in the Dominican Republic. In those days in Latin America, many of the teachers or professors were part-time because you really couldn't earn a decent living as a full-time university professor. So the idea was to create a cohort of well-paid, highly educated, highly trained university professors that would provide, that would create the faculty for the Catholic university. And to this day, the Catholic university in the Dominican Republic, the University Madre y Maestra, mother and teacher, is one of the finest universities in the country, if not in all of Latin America."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's the name of the university?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:149", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.274843312999504, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, in what ways do you think it was different after being married?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, it wasn't that different because we were both educators and we were starting out a new experience at the Catholic university, right? So I think that she was in school and also teaching in a high school in Santiago. I was at the university. It was an exciting time. We were, of course, surrounded by young faculty just like ourselves, many of them recently married. We made great friendships that lasted our lifetime. The university was a special place because the idea was to create a modern American style university in the Dominican Republic. In those days in Latin America, many of the teachers or professors were part-time because you really couldn't earn a decent living as a full-time university professor. So the idea was to create a cohort of well-paid, highly educated, highly trained university professors that would provide, that would create the faculty for the Catholic university. And to this day, the Catholic university in the Dominican Republic, the University Madre y Maestra, mother and teacher, is one of the finest universities in the country, if not in all of Latin America."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's the name of the university?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "UCMM, UCMM. The Catholic University Mother and Teacher [Pontificia Universidad Católica Madre y Maestra]. It was a very successful program, one USAID, one of the U.S. government and USAID. Real success stories. And many of the leaders in government and business, politics and NGOs, people who are trained at that university. And so I was there at the time when the future leadership of the Dominican Republic was launching their careers. It was a wonderful time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your initial assignment, you were working with people who had low level of education and kind of bringing up the minimum standard. Then when you move to Santiago, you were working with."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:151", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 12.527603681110559, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I mean, it wasn't that different because we were both educators and we were starting out a new experience at the Catholic university, right? So I think that she was in school and also teaching in a high school in Santiago. I was at the university. It was an exciting time. We were, of course, surrounded by young faculty just like ourselves, many of them recently married. We made great friendships that lasted our lifetime. The university was a special place because the idea was to create a modern American style university in the Dominican Republic. In those days in Latin America, many of the teachers or professors were part-time because you really couldn't earn a decent living as a full-time university professor. So the idea was to create a cohort of well-paid, highly educated, highly trained university professors that would provide, that would create the faculty for the Catholic university. And to this day, the Catholic university in the Dominican Republic, the University Madre y Maestra, mother and teacher, is one of the finest universities in the country, if not in all of Latin America."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What's the name of the university?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "UCMM, UCMM. The Catholic University Mother and Teacher [Pontificia Universidad Católica Madre y Maestra]. It was a very successful program, one USAID, one of the U.S. government and USAID. Real success stories. And many of the leaders in government and business, politics and NGOs, people who are trained at that university. And so I was there at the time when the future leadership of the Dominican Republic was launching their careers. It was a wonderful time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your initial assignment, you were working with people who had low level of education and kind of bringing up the minimum standard. Then when you move to Santiago, you were working with."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of the elites of the country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And university graduates who were well educated."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:153", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.808448534567287, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "UCMM, UCMM. The Catholic University Mother and Teacher [Pontificia Universidad Católica Madre y Maestra]. It was a very successful program, one USAID, one of the U.S. government and USAID. Real success stories. And many of the leaders in government and business, politics and NGOs, people who are trained at that university. And so I was there at the time when the future leadership of the Dominican Republic was launching their careers. It was a wonderful time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So in your initial assignment, you were working with people who had low level of education and kind of bringing up the minimum standard. Then when you move to Santiago, you were working with."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of the elites of the country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And university graduates who were well educated."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And working for one of the most dynamic educators and leaders in Father Arroyo, who was a Spanish priest, a Spanish Jesuit priest, who was a great visionary and had put together a really outstanding program with support of St. Louis University and USAID funding. So it was a wonderful turn of events which really gave me a tremendous chance to grow in my career. And I started thinking about my life after the Peace Corps and what would I do after the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you got to do some really big things there that if you were teaching at a high school in Chicago, you wouldn't have."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:155", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.23160948285254, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Some of the elites of the country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And university graduates who were well educated."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And working for one of the most dynamic educators and leaders in Father Arroyo, who was a Spanish priest, a Spanish Jesuit priest, who was a great visionary and had put together a really outstanding program with support of St. Louis University and USAID funding. So it was a wonderful turn of events which really gave me a tremendous chance to grow in my career. And I started thinking about my life after the Peace Corps and what would I do after the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you got to do some really big things there that if you were teaching at a high school in Chicago, you wouldn't have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Never would have had a chance to do. Create my own course, you know. The university, the Catholic university, sent me to the United States to do some basic research on how did I want to design and implement a student teaching program, which was the first of its kind in the Dominican Republic. And then I had to sign up local high schools who would provide places for our graduates or our soon to be graduates to practice their teaching. We had to put together supervisory protocols. It was a design the whole program from A to Z with my Dominican counterparts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like it would have been a very busy time for you."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:157", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.812899425391711, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And working for one of the most dynamic educators and leaders in Father Arroyo, who was a Spanish priest, a Spanish Jesuit priest, who was a great visionary and had put together a really outstanding program with support of St. Louis University and USAID funding. So it was a wonderful turn of events which really gave me a tremendous chance to grow in my career. And I started thinking about my life after the Peace Corps and what would I do after the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you got to do some really big things there that if you were teaching at a high school in Chicago, you wouldn't have."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Never would have had a chance to do. Create my own course, you know. The university, the Catholic university, sent me to the United States to do some basic research on how did I want to design and implement a student teaching program, which was the first of its kind in the Dominican Republic. And then I had to sign up local high schools who would provide places for our graduates or our soon to be graduates to practice their teaching. We had to put together supervisory protocols. It was a design the whole program from A to Z with my Dominican counterparts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like it would have been a very busy time for you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very busy time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A lot of hard work."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:159", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.569888250435234, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Never would have had a chance to do. Create my own course, you know. The university, the Catholic university, sent me to the United States to do some basic research on how did I want to design and implement a student teaching program, which was the first of its kind in the Dominican Republic. And then I had to sign up local high schools who would provide places for our graduates or our soon to be graduates to practice their teaching. We had to put together supervisory protocols. It was a design the whole program from A to Z with my Dominican counterparts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It sounds like it would have been a very busy time for you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very busy time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A lot of hard work."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A lot of hard work, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what do you feel like are your main accomplishments, your biggest accomplishments that you remember?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:171", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 25.22159233185853, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I don't. There's no chance that I probably would have entered into the international arena because I didn't have a a channel to enter into that arena. There was no door, no window. Joining the Peace Corps was the most important decision I've ever made in my life. Everything that I've done in terms of a profession and my personal life, all of that emanated from the decision I made to join the Peace Corps in 1967."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It changed everything. I became a person who was steeped in foreign affairs. I learned to speak another language. I met my wife, partner of 50 years. We've raised our children, who are also bilingual, in that environment subsequently. It opened, expanded my mind to look at the world from a totally different angle. I ended up going into business because I now had a different perspective and a different view of the world. I never would have gotten an MBA if I'd gone into teaching high school in Chicago. I probably would have gotten a graduate degree in education and probably become a high school principal, which would have been a perfectly respectable and good thing to do, but it wouldn't have led to the life that I've had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Without a doubt. So that decision to join the Peace Corps was transformative in my life, without a doubt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, very much so. You didn't extend for a full year. You were there for about six months extra?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:173", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 26.9128803687317, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It changed everything. I became a person who was steeped in foreign affairs. I learned to speak another language. I met my wife, partner of 50 years. We've raised our children, who are also bilingual, in that environment subsequently. It opened, expanded my mind to look at the world from a totally different angle. I ended up going into business because I now had a different perspective and a different view of the world. I never would have gotten an MBA if I'd gone into teaching high school in Chicago. I probably would have gotten a graduate degree in education and probably become a high school principal, which would have been a perfectly respectable and good thing to do, but it wouldn't have led to the life that I've had."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Without a doubt. So that decision to join the Peace Corps was transformative in my life, without a doubt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, very much so. You didn't extend for a full year. You were there for about six months extra?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it was a full year, a full academic year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, OK. And then it was time to leave. Did you consider extending longer?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:175", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 29.90320040970189, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Without a doubt. So that decision to join the Peace Corps was transformative in my life, without a doubt."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, very much so. You didn't extend for a full year. You were there for about six months extra?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it was a full year, a full academic year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, OK. And then it was time to leave. Did you consider extending longer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did. The university offered me a full-time position at the university, right? And I thought about doing that. But I also recognized at that point that I needed to go back and get my graduate degree, even if I was going to return and teach at the university. So that was important. By that time, I decided I was going to get a degree in business because I thought, I wasn't certain if I was going to have a career in government or in business, but I thought an MBA would be practical way to be able to engage in a productive way in either career, in government or in business. So I decided to get an MBA, which was certainly not on my radar in my earlier years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And when you left Dominican Republic, did you return to Chicago?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:185", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 33.88846620552742, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they asked me where I wanted to work in Peace Corps recruitment. I said, well, I think I want to return to my hometown and work in the Chicago regional office, which covered most of the Midwest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I went to work as a recruiter in the Chicago regional office, and I was part of the new group that just formed under a guy by the name of Leonard Robinson, that was focused on minority recruitment because Peace Corps wanted to increase our diversity in Peace Corps in the time. This was now 1970."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And so I joined Leonard Robinson's group of minority recruiters, and we were based in in regional offices around the country, in San Francisco, in New York, in Minneapolis, in Chicago. And so my territory was the entire Midwest. So I traveled to most of the major universities and colleges in the Midwest over the course of the year, recruiting for the Peace Corps, which was a terrific job. You get to tell people who are interested in the Peace Corps all about your experience in Peace Corps and encourage other like-minded people to join the Peace Corps. It was a wonderful, wonderful transition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long did you do that for?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:187", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 36.542740228363805, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I went to work as a recruiter in the Chicago regional office, and I was part of the new group that just formed under a guy by the name of Leonard Robinson, that was focused on minority recruitment because Peace Corps wanted to increase our diversity in Peace Corps in the time. This was now 1970."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And so I joined Leonard Robinson's group of minority recruiters, and we were based in in regional offices around the country, in San Francisco, in New York, in Minneapolis, in Chicago. And so my territory was the entire Midwest. So I traveled to most of the major universities and colleges in the Midwest over the course of the year, recruiting for the Peace Corps, which was a terrific job. You get to tell people who are interested in the Peace Corps all about your experience in Peace Corps and encourage other like-minded people to join the Peace Corps. It was a wonderful, wonderful transition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long did you do that for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For one year. And of course, it also introduced my wife to my hometown of Chicago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so now you've completed your Peace Corps service and worked as a recruiter for a couple of years. And as you noted, this decision to join the Peace Corps kind of shaped the rest of your career. I know that you've been involved in international work ever since then with USAID and RTI. And then in 2009, you became the director of the entire Peace Corps. Is that correct? And how did that come about?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:189", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 38.38082247595978, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And so I joined Leonard Robinson's group of minority recruiters, and we were based in in regional offices around the country, in San Francisco, in New York, in Minneapolis, in Chicago. And so my territory was the entire Midwest. So I traveled to most of the major universities and colleges in the Midwest over the course of the year, recruiting for the Peace Corps, which was a terrific job. You get to tell people who are interested in the Peace Corps all about your experience in Peace Corps and encourage other like-minded people to join the Peace Corps. It was a wonderful, wonderful transition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how long did you do that for?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "For one year. And of course, it also introduced my wife to my hometown of Chicago."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so now you've completed your Peace Corps service and worked as a recruiter for a couple of years. And as you noted, this decision to join the Peace Corps kind of shaped the rest of your career. I know that you've been involved in international work ever since then with USAID and RTI. And then in 2009, you became the director of the entire Peace Corps. Is that correct? And how did that come about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it's an amazing, amazing opportunity, and I will be forever grateful to President Barack Obama and his foreign policy team for giving me the opportunity to serve as Peace Corps director in his administration. So after I entered graduate school and got an MBA, I went into business. I worked for a couple of large Fortune 500 companies, the last one being General Mills. I was a marketing manager at General Mills. We lived in Minneapolis. But because of my Peace Corps service, I always had heard the siren song of being in international affairs, foreign affairs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Pulling you back in."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:193", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 18, "return_to_go": 42.56891663698738, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it's an amazing, amazing opportunity, and I will be forever grateful to President Barack Obama and his foreign policy team for giving me the opportunity to serve as Peace Corps director in his administration. So after I entered graduate school and got an MBA, I went into business. I worked for a couple of large Fortune 500 companies, the last one being General Mills. I was a marketing manager at General Mills. We lived in Minneapolis. But because of my Peace Corps service, I always had heard the siren song of being in international affairs, foreign affairs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Pulling you back in."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Pulling me back in. And I also wanted to use my Spanish language skills. So I got a call from my former boss and good friend Henry Reynolds, who was at that time working for USAID in Honduras. And he asked me. This was now 1977. And he asked me, 1976, if I would be willing to consider coming to work for AID on a short term consultancy to help them design an agribusiness project in Honduras, the country that I was supposed to serve in in the first place. Now let me just add an aside on Honduras."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I actually had traveled to Honduras while I was a Peace Corps volunteer on vacation because my roommate, Dennis Kroger, had actually been assigned to Honduras, and so we agreed to meet there a year into our service."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, your roommate from training."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:203", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 30.46608179137221, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not really, because I was focused on USAID and PEPFAR, the international AIDS prevention and treatment program. That was my purview, AID, PEPFAR, OPIC, the Ex-Im Bank and, I'm missing one other agency, um, and the MCC, the Millennium Challenge Corporation. That was the purview of our team."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I really didn't lobby for the job, but something really marvelous happened because after a number of people in the Peace Corps community heard that my name was being proposed, there was a groundswell of support. A couple of people who I didn't even know put together a petition, and they wrote to the White House and endorsed me from the Peace Corps community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As Director. So that was a wonderful, wonderful response from my Peace Corps colleagues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you were happy to accept the invitation."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:205", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 32.74009087930246, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So I really didn't lobby for the job, but something really marvelous happened because after a number of people in the Peace Corps community heard that my name was being proposed, there was a groundswell of support. A couple of people who I didn't even know put together a petition, and they wrote to the White House and endorsed me from the Peace Corps community."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "As Director. So that was a wonderful, wonderful response from my Peace Corps colleagues."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you were happy to accept the invitation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, this was a dream come true. Someone who was a volunteer to have the opportunity to return and serve in the Peace Corps. You know this, this agency, which is an iconic American agency, which had transformed my life and transformed the lives of over 250,000 people over the last 50 years. It was a wonderful opportunity. So despite the fact that I promised my wife I was not going to go back into government, the Peace Corps was a job that she and I both agreed was something that was absolutely essential. Plus, I had the great honor and privilege of serving President Barack Obama. **\n\nThat's how I ended up directing the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, and that's quite a different experience from being a volunteer and with its own challenges."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:209", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 37.086531949756115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, this was a dream come true. Someone who was a volunteer to have the opportunity to return and serve in the Peace Corps. You know this, this agency, which is an iconic American agency, which had transformed my life and transformed the lives of over 250,000 people over the last 50 years. It was a wonderful opportunity. So despite the fact that I promised my wife I was not going to go back into government, the Peace Corps was a job that she and I both agreed was something that was absolutely essential. Plus, I had the great honor and privilege of serving President Barack Obama. **\n\nThat's how I ended up directing the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, and that's quite a different experience from being a volunteer and with its own challenges."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, it's a different perspective, right?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Different perspectives."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But one of the things that I learned and I saw, and one of the great things about being director of the Peace Corps, is that a chance to once again engage with these marvelous young people who were dedicating their lives to the people in the communities and the organizations they worked with in the developing world, right? And you know that Peace Corps spark is still there in Africa, Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe, Pacific. Wherever you go and travel, you see volunteers and you can quickly connect with your own experience and see it in their eyes and through their own experiences. It's pretty amazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As the Peace Corps director, where were most of your efforts focused? Was it necessary to keep selling the idea of Peace Corps to the politicians?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:217", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 47.0149854439203, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So this is a chance to reconnect the American people with the Peace Corps and also to give the returned Peace Corps volunteer community and volunteers around the world a chance to celebrate this wonderful organization, which had contributed so much to their individual lives. And to give the host countries and the universities that have been involved in supporting and strengthening and engaging in partnership with the Peace Corps as a chance to celebrate. So it was a marvelous opportunity. So I was very fortunate to be the director of the Peace Corps during the 50th anniversary."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other thing about the Peace Corps, which I think is not quite fully appreciated, is that as best as I can determine, the Peace Corps is the first, was the first, it might be the only, Federal agency that created a framework whereby women were always given equal status. Something that Shriver insisted on. And when he created the Peace Corps, not many people in Congress wanted American women to travel overseas to foreign countries and serve as volunteers in isolated villages. It was not something that was readily apparent or acceptable. Shriver insisted that women have equal opportunity in the Peace Corps. And because of that, from the very beginning, women were involved as volunteers and staff and continued to this day, continue to be the majority number of volunteers are women, 60 percent of them. You know, my staff, I think something like 40 percent of my senior staff were women. Overseas our country directors, a large percentage are women, and it continues to be the case today. That's because this visionary man, Sargent Shriver, insisted upon that from day one. I don't think any other Federal agency has ever had that in place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure. I've never heard that story before."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's something that people have not focused on, but was readily apparent to me when I became director. So it's a great tradition. And so I was really happy, pleased, and I got to work with, you know, a wonderful group of people at the cabinet level and subcabinet level in the Obama administration. It was a wonderful time to be director of the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you were the director all under one administration?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00156:243", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 7.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I'm happy that I was able to serve as director of the Peace Corps because also I was able to build a tremendous team in the Peace Corps. People who were really already accomplished in their careers and served at the highest levels of the Peace Corps. We really worked on diversity and an increasing number of women who served in the Peace Corps. It was important to me to look for ways to do that, and we did that in many, many ways. As I said, one of the things that's often overlooked in Peace Corps is that Sargent Shriver set the standard for making sure that women had an equal opportunity to serve in the Peace Corps from day one. And we wanted to continue that trend, and we did. And I'm also proud of what we able to accomplish in celebrating the 50th anniversary of the. We tried to come up with ways to modernize the Peace Corps.\n\nWe were able to secure the highest level of funding for the Peace Corps in several years. And we really built a strong, bipartisan coalition with the U.S. Congress in support of the Peace Corps and that I will always be grateful for. The other thing is that we had tremendous support and engagement from the RPCVs who were serving in the Congress at the time I was director, led by people like Sam Farr, John Garamendi of California, Farr of California, Mike Honda of California, Tom Petri of Wisconsin and of course, the tremendous support of Senator Chris Dodd, who I had the honor of serving with in the Dominican Republic as a Peace Corps volunteer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Huh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So and who also chaired my confirmation hearing in the Senate. So it was a wonderful time to be director of the Peace Corps, and I'll always be grateful for having the opportunity."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right, Aaron, thanks for the very good interview, and thanks for all your years of service."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thank you, Jay, and thank you for arranging to have this interview and I've enjoyed talking to you."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This is Jay Sztuk again. We're continuing the interview with Aaron Williams. Aaron's remembered something very important that needs to get on the record. So carry on."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00739:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 49.00036221092593, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A fun and a very rewarding career."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What’s it been like to be the first female project manager in the Shuttle projects area?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’d say it’s been fun and challenging. I have had a lot of great mentors and team members who supported me. The pressure to succeed was probably more self-inflicted. I didn’t want to let the team, the community, the astronauts, or myself down. As for being the first female project manager in Shuttle, everyone has treated me very much as an equal and been very supportive. I have never felt so supported by a team in my life! It’s was a great job. It was also a very proud moment to be able to do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I can imagine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s like with any team, you don’t do it alone. I had to rely on the great folks around me. They know more than I do and support me. I must rely on their expertise. RSRB is a great team. We had a lot of fun despite the seriousness of our job. Hopefully, I helped “open the doors” for other folks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Every time we look at the Shuttle Program we’re just amazed how it was able to get off the ground. There are so many components and so much that has to come together."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00739:7", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 22, "return_to_go": 54.44484690102881, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’d say it’s been fun and challenging. I have had a lot of great mentors and team members who supported me. The pressure to succeed was probably more self-inflicted. I didn’t want to let the team, the community, the astronauts, or myself down. As for being the first female project manager in Shuttle, everyone has treated me very much as an equal and been very supportive. I have never felt so supported by a team in my life! It’s was a great job. It was also a very proud moment to be able to do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I can imagine."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It’s like with any team, you don’t do it alone. I had to rely on the great folks around me. They know more than I do and support me. I must rely on their expertise. RSRB is a great team. We had a lot of fun despite the seriousness of our job. Hopefully, I helped “open the doors” for other folks."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Every time we look at the Shuttle Program we’re just amazed how it was able to get off the ground. There are so many components and so much that has to come together."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So much complexity, there really is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I thought we would turn our attention to retirement of the Shuttle, given your current position. I was curious if you could give us the status of the three elements right now in the program."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:1", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 32.653573012240585, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My name is Iris Nagler."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where do you live?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I live in Laverock, Pennsylvania."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And, um, can you describe what your present work is or your family or current? Your current residence you've given. Your interests?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, employment. I am coordinator of Title II Part A of the No Child Left Behind Act, and I am a State Department of Education employee from the state of New Jersey. I am married. My husband and I, Stephen, were Peace Corps volunteers. And we have two grown children, our daughter Betsy and our son Matthew. And we also have two grandchildren, Joshua, who is going to be four, and Aaron who is just a year old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Iris, what made you apply for the Peace Corps? How did that all come about?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:3", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 31.837303346933982, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I live in Laverock, Pennsylvania."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And, um, can you describe what your present work is or your family or current? Your current residence you've given. Your interests?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, employment. I am coordinator of Title II Part A of the No Child Left Behind Act, and I am a State Department of Education employee from the state of New Jersey. I am married. My husband and I, Stephen, were Peace Corps volunteers. And we have two grown children, our daughter Betsy and our son Matthew. And we also have two grandchildren, Joshua, who is going to be four, and Aaron who is just a year old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Iris, what made you apply for the Peace Corps? How did that all come about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we were, uh, actively involved with the election of Kennedy, John Kennedy, and an admirer of him as a person. And when he announced the, uh, development of the Peace Corps, it sounded like a perfect thing for us to do because we, we knew that we would want to do this right after we finished college. I had received a bachelor's degree at Queens College, and Steve had just passed the bar. And so we thought that if we were ever going to do it, it was best to do it then before we decided to move on with our careers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did your parents or if you had siblings and friends, what did they say when you told them you were going into the Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 12, "return_to_go": 34.2636703854822, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, employment. I am coordinator of Title II Part A of the No Child Left Behind Act, and I am a State Department of Education employee from the state of New Jersey. I am married. My husband and I, Stephen, were Peace Corps volunteers. And we have two grown children, our daughter Betsy and our son Matthew. And we also have two grandchildren, Joshua, who is going to be four, and Aaron who is just a year old."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Iris, what made you apply for the Peace Corps? How did that all come about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we were, uh, actively involved with the election of Kennedy, John Kennedy, and an admirer of him as a person. And when he announced the, uh, development of the Peace Corps, it sounded like a perfect thing for us to do because we, we knew that we would want to do this right after we finished college. I had received a bachelor's degree at Queens College, and Steve had just passed the bar. And so we thought that if we were ever going to do it, it was best to do it then before we decided to move on with our careers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did your parents or if you had siblings and friends, what did they say when you told them you were going into the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, um, my parents weren't overly excited about it, but then again, we had already been married a year and a half. We were adults, and so, uh, they accepted it. You know, we, you know, we were free people. You know, we weren't dependents anymore. So, um, it was a very exciting time for us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have any specific country in mind when you went to join the Peace Corps and how did it come about that you went to Nyasaland?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.79850893228449, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't remember. I don't remember the people who were deselected either. And I was pretty, Steve and I were pretty confident that we would get selected. And as it turned out, we were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you feel, it's kind of in hindsight, but do you feel that the training prepared you for, for going to Malawi and that it was useful for the Peace Corps service?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Part of the training was useful. Learning about the political situation, the history of Malawi, and the language training especially was very useful. But, but what we found out from a lot of our trainers is they really couldn't tell us a lot about Malawi. They knew about other countries in the surrounding area, but not Malawi. That was, that was really a running joke that often they would say, well, I don't know anything about Malawi, but I know about this country or that country. And we were interested in finding out about the climate and what kinds of amenities, you know, what did we have to bring in the way of, of materials to prepare us for being there? I mean just, what kind of clothing and so on. And basically that, that was something that we really didn't have a clue about until we arrived."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was your initial entry like into Nyasaland?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I remember getting off the plane after close to three days of travel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you remember about that, that stands out?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 25.677171521338877, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I remember getting off the plane after close to three days of travel."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you remember about that, that stands out?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Something that stands out?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Feelings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Excitement. Excitement about being in a totally new place. Totally new. I knew that we were going to have a totally new experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, was there anything visual?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 24.085746134820976, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Something that stands out?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Feelings?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Excitement. Excitement about being in a totally new place. Totally new. I knew that we were going to have a totally new experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, was there anything visual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The landscape was very different from what we were accustomed to. The, the low lying trees, the warm climate. I remember being happy that it wasn't as hot and humid as it was in, uh, in Dar es Salaam. We spent one night there and I thought I would die from suffocation. And then we landed in Malawi and it was 100 percent better. The climate was almost like, what I heard, was a lot like California."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Can you, would you describe your project and any memories of the staff, uh, impression of people of the country? This was a lot of different topics."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 26.761940149801084, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Excitement. Excitement about being in a totally new place. Totally new. I knew that we were going to have a totally new experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, was there anything visual?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The landscape was very different from what we were accustomed to. The, the low lying trees, the warm climate. I remember being happy that it wasn't as hot and humid as it was in, uh, in Dar es Salaam. We spent one night there and I thought I would die from suffocation. And then we landed in Malawi and it was 100 percent better. The climate was almost like, what I heard, was a lot like California."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Can you, would you describe your project and any memories of the staff, uh, impression of people of the country? This was a lot of different topics."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But physical environment, role of the language?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 10, "return_to_go": 24.179933499778983, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The landscape was very different from what we were accustomed to. The, the low lying trees, the warm climate. I remember being happy that it wasn't as hot and humid as it was in, uh, in Dar es Salaam. We spent one night there and I thought I would die from suffocation. And then we landed in Malawi and it was 100 percent better. The climate was almost like, what I heard, was a lot like California."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Can you, would you describe your project and any memories of the staff, uh, impression of people of the country? This was a lot of different topics."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But physical environment, role of the language?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, well, first, first the group that was. We were, we were based at a CCAP mission school, Henry Henderson Institute. It was a day school. It had once been a boarding school. Our accommodations were quite comfortable. We, uh, there were initially two other couples. There was another couple, the Taylors, who were there, and then later the Thomases. So on this mission, there were three."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they were Peace Corps volunteers?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.868894477093567, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If I remember correctly, they did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you didn't change that? There was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no. I preferred to maintain a teacher-student relationship. I felt that I was more comfortable with that. It was, it wasn't a strict, you know, relationship. That is, I was certainly a little more lenient than, than the local teachers. Nevertheless, I preferred to maintain that, that kind of respect because I felt that they would learn more from me than, than if I were a pal. But that wasn't true. My husband's attitude was a little different about that, but that didn't mean that he wasn't any more successful at what he was doing, although I never sat in on his classes. He obviously enjoyed what he was teaching."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I taught all the sciences from general science to biology, chemistry, and physics. With regard to physics, I was always one step ahead of my students because I didn't have, I hadn't taken more than one semester of physics, so I wasn't that well versed in it. But the textbooks we had, even though they were quite old, were sufficient to provide the information necessary to teach them. So that, you know, if I studied a day in advance, I would have enough information. And I really loved science and had a good enough background to teach them a lot of hands on experimental.\n\nDid you find they asked, raised their hand to ask questions, had interaction a lot? Or were they, did they sit back and rote memory?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.520993863437297, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no. I preferred to maintain a teacher-student relationship. I felt that I was more comfortable with that. It was, it wasn't a strict, you know, relationship. That is, I was certainly a little more lenient than, than the local teachers. Nevertheless, I preferred to maintain that, that kind of respect because I felt that they would learn more from me than, than if I were a pal. But that wasn't true. My husband's attitude was a little different about that, but that didn't mean that he wasn't any more successful at what he was doing, although I never sat in on his classes. He obviously enjoyed what he was teaching."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I taught all the sciences from general science to biology, chemistry, and physics. With regard to physics, I was always one step ahead of my students because I didn't have, I hadn't taken more than one semester of physics, so I wasn't that well versed in it. But the textbooks we had, even though they were quite old, were sufficient to provide the information necessary to teach them. So that, you know, if I studied a day in advance, I would have enough information. And I really loved science and had a good enough background to teach them a lot of hands on experimental.\n\nDid you find they asked, raised their hand to ask questions, had interaction a lot? Or were they, did they sit back and rote memory?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a lot of lecture and writing on the board and giving them notes and so on. But I think as time went by they relaxed a little more and I encouraged them to ask questions. So there was, there was, there was give and take."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Peace Corps staff, your impressions and the interaction?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 17.24554873715255, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no. I preferred to maintain a teacher-student relationship. I felt that I was more comfortable with that. It was, it wasn't a strict, you know, relationship. That is, I was certainly a little more lenient than, than the local teachers. Nevertheless, I preferred to maintain that, that kind of respect because I felt that they would learn more from me than, than if I were a pal. But that wasn't true. My husband's attitude was a little different about that, but that didn't mean that he wasn't any more successful at what he was doing, although I never sat in on his classes. He obviously enjoyed what he was teaching."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I taught all the sciences from general science to biology, chemistry, and physics. With regard to physics, I was always one step ahead of my students because I didn't have, I hadn't taken more than one semester of physics, so I wasn't that well versed in it. But the textbooks we had, even though they were quite old, were sufficient to provide the information necessary to teach them. So that, you know, if I studied a day in advance, I would have enough information. And I really loved science and had a good enough background to teach them a lot of hands on experimental.\n\nDid you find they asked, raised their hand to ask questions, had interaction a lot? Or were they, did they sit back and rote memory?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a lot of lecture and writing on the board and giving them notes and so on. But I think as time went by they relaxed a little more and I encouraged them to ask questions. So there was, there was, there was give and take."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Peace Corps staff, your impressions and the interaction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, of course, we were friendly with the other couples on the campus. And then in the second year, there was another group that came over and I think we had good relationships with them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who were your staff?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:43", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.939498596836167, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a lot of lecture and writing on the board and giving them notes and so on. But I think as time went by they relaxed a little more and I encouraged them to ask questions. So there was, there was, there was give and take."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What about Peace Corps staff, your impressions and the interaction?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, of course, we were friendly with the other couples on the campus. And then in the second year, there was another group that came over and I think we had good relationships with them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who were your staff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, there was Dave and Virginia Kaler."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Peace Corps staff."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.46851678621749, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, there was Dave and Virginia Kaler."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Peace Corps staff."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, Peace Corps staff? Oh, okay. Now I'm mixing them up with Peace Corps volunteers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were the Pooles. And, and, um, Nelson. Gordon Nelson. Bob Poole and Gordon Nelson were the ones that I remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was your interaction and impressions and how did that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 18.298351984686096, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, Peace Corps staff? Oh, okay. Now I'm mixing them up with Peace Corps volunteers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were the Pooles. And, and, um, Nelson. Gordon Nelson. Bob Poole and Gordon Nelson were the ones that I remember."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was your interaction and impressions and how did that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had a very friendly relationship with them. They were wonderful people. We never felt as though they were pushing their weight around. So it was only a friendly, collegial relationship."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you tend to do in your leisure time?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.8770038183307, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was exciting, you know, with the fireworks and the pomp and ceremony. And we, you know, to us, this. Here we were in a country actually receiving its independence. The excitement of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "[coughs] Excuse me."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And, and we really felt so happy for, for the Malawians that they were actually getting their independence. They had self-government beforehand in 1961. But, um, it, everything, everything at that point looked very positive. We didn't see any. In addition, what reminds me about positive is that although they were poor, we didn't see poverty, extreme poverty. We didn't see people starving, uh, except for some people who came around begging, who had some diseases that were debilitating, um, where they lost parts of their hands and feet. I'm trying to remember the name of that disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Leprosy."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Leprosy. Other than that, people were healthy. You know, we didn't see kwashiorkor or any of those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were in the city, were you?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 13.196670909256332, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And, and we really felt so happy for, for the Malawians that they were actually getting their independence. They had self-government beforehand in 1961. But, um, it, everything, everything at that point looked very positive. We didn't see any. In addition, what reminds me about positive is that although they were poor, we didn't see poverty, extreme poverty. We didn't see people starving, uh, except for some people who came around begging, who had some diseases that were debilitating, um, where they lost parts of their hands and feet. I'm trying to remember the name of that disease."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Leprosy."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Leprosy. Other than that, people were healthy. You know, we didn't see kwashiorkor or any of those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were in the city, were you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were in the largest city with about 70 to 75,000 people. But even our travels up to the villages, people were, you know, looked healthy. Relatively disease free. We didn't suffer from anything, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were never ill?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:65", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.057618406489297, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were in the largest city with about 70 to 75,000 people. But even our travels up to the villages, people were, you know, looked healthy. Relatively disease free. We didn't suffer from anything, you know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You were never ill?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Didn't get malaria. We were never ill, other than perhaps a cold. And I don't remember even getting a cold. But that doesn't mean I didn't. Nothing serious. No bouts of malaria. We were careful about, um, swimming in Lake Niassa."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We heard of bilharzia, at least the southern region. Northern region it was okay. Bilharzia, the schistosomiasis was a problem. The snails, the parasitic worms that live part of their life in snails and part in human beings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. You're at the end of your first year."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 16.73068711832144, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Didn't get malaria. We were never ill, other than perhaps a cold. And I don't remember even getting a cold. But that doesn't mean I didn't. Nothing serious. No bouts of malaria. We were careful about, um, swimming in Lake Niassa."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We heard of bilharzia, at least the southern region. Northern region it was okay. Bilharzia, the schistosomiasis was a problem. The snails, the parasitic worms that live part of their life in snails and part in human beings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. You're at the end of your first year."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any notable events, reflections on the year, woes, joys, unexpected events, relationships? You said no health problems. You had vacations. Maybe you traveled?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.922985687023825, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We heard of bilharzia, at least the southern region. Northern region it was okay. Bilharzia, the schistosomiasis was a problem. The snails, the parasitic worms that live part of their life in snails and part in human beings."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. You're at the end of your first year."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there any notable events, reflections on the year, woes, joys, unexpected events, relationships? You said no health problems. You had vacations. Maybe you traveled?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had vacations. We traveled. I think that first year we had 30 days off a year. We traveled to Beira on the Portuguese coast and that was an interesting experience. We were on a train that was, I think, built in the 1930s and there was only one track. So I remember that, uh, there's a side track. The train would pull over to a side track if a train was coming in the other direction. Every time the train stopped, people came around and were selling vegetables and fruits. I remember we went to a reception with the mayor of Beira and that was interesting because, um, I was able to communicate with his wife in Spanish. I didn't know Portuguese and she didn't know English, but we both knew a little bit of Spanish, so we were able to communicate.\n\nWe stayed in a rondavel. We went with one of these, one of the guys, one of the two of two of them I remember. I don't remember whether they traveled with us on the train or met us by car."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One of the guys?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.737977622803599, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One of the British expatriates that we met."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, okay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, we stayed in a house right on the beach, a rondavel, a small one room round tent-like metal structure. I remember that. That was, that was very interesting. Sand constantly. You couldn't get the sand out of you. Um. So that, that was one interest. That's, that's part of it. The vacations that we had were great.\n\nOne time we went down to South Africa and we were in Johannesburg and a number of other cities. The political situation there was pretty bad. We had some conversations with South African whites and, you know, the prejudice against Africans was, was pretty strong and Africans and whites were not allowed to socialize together. It was against the law to visit each other in their homes, to drink together. Although the country is beautiful, nevertheless that's what stayed in my mind. The attitudes about Africans, Black Africans by the whites. What was? There was another part of the question that I wanted to answer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any special events in your first year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Events in our first year. Well, of course, the vacations. Oh, one of the things. We had to work also, we had to develop projects during that time. And I remember that Steve was involved. I can't remember what projects I was involved in, but I remember Steve was involved in a road project and then he was also involved with a, with a well-digging project. So, um, that I remember. I don't remember. Wait a minute. I think I went up to Livingstonia and was teaching up there for a while during that period of time. It's amazing how much you forget after over 40 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were you all when Kennedy was assassinated?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.3755306920039985, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, we stayed in a house right on the beach, a rondavel, a small one room round tent-like metal structure. I remember that. That was, that was very interesting. Sand constantly. You couldn't get the sand out of you. Um. So that, that was one interest. That's, that's part of it. The vacations that we had were great.\n\nOne time we went down to South Africa and we were in Johannesburg and a number of other cities. The political situation there was pretty bad. We had some conversations with South African whites and, you know, the prejudice against Africans was, was pretty strong and Africans and whites were not allowed to socialize together. It was against the law to visit each other in their homes, to drink together. Although the country is beautiful, nevertheless that's what stayed in my mind. The attitudes about Africans, Black Africans by the whites. What was? There was another part of the question that I wanted to answer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any special events in your first year?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Events in our first year. Well, of course, the vacations. Oh, one of the things. We had to work also, we had to develop projects during that time. And I remember that Steve was involved. I can't remember what projects I was involved in, but I remember Steve was involved in a road project and then he was also involved with a, with a well-digging project. So, um, that I remember. I don't remember. Wait a minute. I think I went up to Livingstonia and was teaching up there for a while during that period of time. It's amazing how much you forget after over 40 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were you all when Kennedy was assassinated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't remember exactly where. I believe it was our house, because I was making pizza for a group of, of volunteers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can I tell you where Steve was?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.0839229911155535, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Events in our first year. Well, of course, the vacations. Oh, one of the things. We had to work also, we had to develop projects during that time. And I remember that Steve was involved. I can't remember what projects I was involved in, but I remember Steve was involved in a road project and then he was also involved with a, with a well-digging project. So, um, that I remember. I don't remember. Wait a minute. I think I went up to Livingstonia and was teaching up there for a while during that period of time. It's amazing how much you forget after over 40 years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where were you all when Kennedy was assassinated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't remember exactly where. I believe it was our house, because I was making pizza for a group of, of volunteers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can I tell you where Steve was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't know if you were with him. You were at the hostel."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:81", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.871025545683948, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't remember exactly where. I believe it was our house, because I was making pizza for a group of, of volunteers."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can I tell you where Steve was?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't know if you were with him. You were at the hostel."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, we were at."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A whole bunch of us at the hostel. Maybe you were making pizza there."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.745583939648832, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't know if you were with him. You were at the hostel."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, we were at."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A whole bunch of us at the hostel. Maybe you were making pizza there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was making pizzas. I didn't think it was our, I didn't know where we were though. If I said if I were making pizza, maybe it was our house but."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was the hostel."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:85", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.717315488498702, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay, we were at."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A whole bunch of us at the hostel. Maybe you were making pizza there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was making pizzas. I didn't think it was our, I didn't know where we were though. If I said if I were making pizza, maybe it was our house but."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was the hostel."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the Africans were there playing music. And I was playing bridge with Gary Amo and some other people or something."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:87", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.797017209443002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was making pizzas. I didn't think it was our, I didn't know where we were though. If I said if I were making pizza, maybe it was our house but."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was the hostel."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the Africans were there playing music. And I was playing bridge with Gary Amo and some other people or something."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But go on for your experience."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:89", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 11.996685788270002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And the Africans were there playing music. And I was playing bridge with Gary Amo and some other people or something."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But go on for your experience."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, for my personal experience, I came out with this pizza and I was standing there and everybody was standing around holding hands and praying. And that's when I discovered what had happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you drop the pizza?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.774095320300002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But go on for your experience."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, for my personal experience, I came out with this pizza and I was standing there and everybody was standing around holding hands and praying. And that's when I discovered what had happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you drop the pizza?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't drop the pizza. I would have remembered that I think. But it was a shock. I mean, we walked around dazed for days, dazed for days, and we met. And a lot of our friends in Malawi were very, very sad. Very, very sad. They were very, they loved Kennedy. So that was a significant event for us. And that was in November '63, and it was just before the end of our first year. Um. The other thing you said, significant events in our second year. The political climate began to change. We heard rumors about the fact that H. Kamuzu Banda was not, that some of his, um, some of the fellow, uh. What do you call them?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ministers or political? Ministers then?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:93", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.415661467000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, for my personal experience, I came out with this pizza and I was standing there and everybody was standing around holding hands and praying. And that's when I discovered what had happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you drop the pizza?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't drop the pizza. I would have remembered that I think. But it was a shock. I mean, we walked around dazed for days, dazed for days, and we met. And a lot of our friends in Malawi were very, very sad. Very, very sad. They were very, they loved Kennedy. So that was a significant event for us. And that was in November '63, and it was just before the end of our first year. Um. The other thing you said, significant events in our second year. The political climate began to change. We heard rumors about the fact that H. Kamuzu Banda was not, that some of his, um, some of the fellow, uh. What do you call them?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ministers or political? Ministers then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, ministers were, were pressuring him to Africanize more quickly and he was very stubborn about that. He was very conservative. I think that Malawi was probably the only African country, Black African country that actually had business relations with South Africa and."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why was that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:95", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.017401630000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't drop the pizza. I would have remembered that I think. But it was a shock. I mean, we walked around dazed for days, dazed for days, and we met. And a lot of our friends in Malawi were very, very sad. Very, very sad. They were very, they loved Kennedy. So that was a significant event for us. And that was in November '63, and it was just before the end of our first year. Um. The other thing you said, significant events in our second year. The political climate began to change. We heard rumors about the fact that H. Kamuzu Banda was not, that some of his, um, some of the fellow, uh. What do you call them?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ministers or political? Ministers then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, ministers were, were pressuring him to Africanize more quickly and he was very stubborn about that. He was very conservative. I think that Malawi was probably the only African country, Black African country that actually had business relations with South Africa and."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Portuguese East Africa. He may have been thinking about the welfare of Malawi, feeling that economically it would be a benefit to have these relations with South Africa. But politically, um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the Malawians need something from South Africa? Did they interact with South Africa in some way?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:97", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.574890700000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, ministers were, were pressuring him to Africanize more quickly and he was very stubborn about that. He was very conservative. I think that Malawi was probably the only African country, Black African country that actually had business relations with South Africa and."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Why was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Portuguese East Africa. He may have been thinking about the welfare of Malawi, feeling that economically it would be a benefit to have these relations with South Africa. But politically, um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the Malawians need something from South Africa? Did they interact with South Africa in some way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I don't remember the. [tape break] As I was saying, his, many of his ministers felt that he wasn't Africanizing fast enough. For instance, they wanted the schools to be integrated and he refused to do that. That is, the white students and the African students to go to school together. He was afraid to do that because he didn't want to lose the white educated population. At least that's what I heard. And he felt that there would be a mass exodus from Malawi if he did that initially.\n\nSo he responded very negatively to this pressure and he expelled a number of them and a number of them ran away. So there was, there was a real crisis there. I remember that. And that was going on for several months before we left. And just as an aside, he, he. Most educated people sided with the, with the, uh, the ministers so that his attitude towards educated people, Malawians, became very negative. And he surrounded himself with local people who were not well educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now how did, how did all of that affect, if it did, your teaching and the students and what maybe they were discussing? Or how did all the political changes impact you as a volunteer?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.194323000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Portuguese East Africa. He may have been thinking about the welfare of Malawi, feeling that economically it would be a benefit to have these relations with South Africa. But politically, um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did the Malawians need something from South Africa? Did they interact with South Africa in some way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I don't remember the. [tape break] As I was saying, his, many of his ministers felt that he wasn't Africanizing fast enough. For instance, they wanted the schools to be integrated and he refused to do that. That is, the white students and the African students to go to school together. He was afraid to do that because he didn't want to lose the white educated population. At least that's what I heard. And he felt that there would be a mass exodus from Malawi if he did that initially.\n\nSo he responded very negatively to this pressure and he expelled a number of them and a number of them ran away. So there was, there was a real crisis there. I remember that. And that was going on for several months before we left. And just as an aside, he, he. Most educated people sided with the, with the, uh, the ministers so that his attitude towards educated people, Malawians, became very negative. And he surrounded himself with local people who were not well educated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Okay. Now how did, how did all of that affect, if it did, your teaching and the students and what maybe they were discussing? Or how did all the political changes impact you as a volunteer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't remember it impacting my teaching. After all, I taught science. I didn't teach anything that would lead us to get into any political conversations. Any political conversations that we had were outside of the classroom with some of our students. And Steve was more likely to carry on conversations with them. I do believe that we were told not to voice our opinions about our attitudes about this. To be honest, I think that we were honest with our students if, if the conversation came up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anything in their second year that stands out or that you want to add before we talk about reentry or coming home?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.7, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't remember that. If there was one, I don't remember it at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, looking now at your service and at the three goals of Peace Corps, the one was to provide technical assistance where requested, that's the service that we gave. Then to promote the better understanding of Americans by the people that were served. And to help promote better understanding of other peoples of America. Have you played a role in those or how have you seen those fit into your life now since you've returned? If they have?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "If at all?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think it, it broadened, it definitely broadened our perspective on, on the way other people live. The fact that there are people out there who live differently, who have different attitudes. It made us more objective about that, as opposed to our friends who remained in the United States and weren't involved in any way with, with living for any extent of time overseas. Uh, I think that, and my husband and I have said this often, the culture shock was, shock was coming back. It wasn't getting adjusted to living in Malawi. Our friends back in the United States were already settled, were interested in their cars and their homes and their children and really didn't show any great enthusiasm or interest in what we had done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I can relate. Through the years, have you continued any kind of involvement in the country of service? Any contact with the people from the country? Any continuing Peace Corps involvement?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:111", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 3.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If at all?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think it, it broadened, it definitely broadened our perspective on, on the way other people live. The fact that there are people out there who live differently, who have different attitudes. It made us more objective about that, as opposed to our friends who remained in the United States and weren't involved in any way with, with living for any extent of time overseas. Uh, I think that, and my husband and I have said this often, the culture shock was, shock was coming back. It wasn't getting adjusted to living in Malawi. Our friends back in the United States were already settled, were interested in their cars and their homes and their children and really didn't show any great enthusiasm or interest in what we had done."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I can relate. Through the years, have you continued any kind of involvement in the country of service? Any contact with the people from the country? Any continuing Peace Corps involvement?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only sporadic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just kind of describe to present."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00204:115", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only sporadic."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just kind of describe to present."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, very, very sporadic contact with some of our ex Peace Corps volunteers, the people who we went over with, such as you, Linda, the interviewer. Um. But we, we have kept also, and not continuous contact with some of the young men that we met in Malawi, and one of whom I know is still living in, is now settled in the United States. For the first couple of years, we, some of them came over and were here in the United States for visits. I think I mentioned that we became friendly with a Goan family, and their son came to visit. And so he stayed with us for a while and we showed him around. And I also another Malawian stayed with us for a little while.\n\nBut this was, you know, within five years of coming back. After that, we had no contact really, none at all. Maybe some very occasional contact. And we just went on with our lives. You know, every once in a while I would, in my work, I would meet people who were Peace Corps volunteers, and there would be some, you know, a feeling of companionship because they had done something similar even though they may not have been in Malawi, they may have been in another country. We had something in common to talk about.\n\nWe have thought about going back to Malawi. I think we would like to do it someday, uh, but right now we have no definite plans. We, when we first came back, we were also involved with recruitment and we went to a, we gave a number of presentations and talked about the importance of becoming a Peace Corps volunteer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's it. I thank you very much."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You're welcome."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have any other thoughts?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 14.663667222586334, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I'm going to stick by it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So where did you grow up?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Grew up in New York City."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "New York City. And where did you go to college?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Amherst College in Massachusetts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Amherst. Where did she go to college?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:7", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.07074135842926, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Grew up in New York City."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "New York City. And where did you go to college?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Amherst College in Massachusetts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Amherst. Where did she go to college?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wisconsin. And then she transferred to the New School in New York."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I should probably interview her as well as a Peace Corps volunteer."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.6341570649214, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Amherst College in Massachusetts."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Amherst. Where did she go to college?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wisconsin. And then she transferred to the New School in New York."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I should probably interview her as well as a Peace Corps volunteer."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you're smart, you would have interviewed her instead of me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so this all came from Operation Crossroads Africa."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.260174516579333, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Wisconsin. And then she transferred to the New School in New York."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I should probably interview her as well as a Peace Corps volunteer."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you're smart, you would have interviewed her instead of me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so this all came from Operation Crossroads Africa."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so. You know, it's a combination of Kennedy's passion and Reverend Robinson."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, so you got married. You both went to law school and then?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.066860573977035, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "If you're smart, you would have interviewed her instead of me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so this all came from Operation Crossroads Africa."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so. You know, it's a combination of Kennedy's passion and Reverend Robinson."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, so you got married. You both went to law school and then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, she went to social work school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, but you went to law school. So did you go into the Peace Corps after law school then?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 20.07428952664115, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think so. You know, it's a combination of Kennedy's passion and Reverend Robinson."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Alright, so you got married. You both went to law school and then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, she went to social work school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, but you went to law school. So did you go into the Peace Corps after law school then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Missed my graduation and went to training. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the legal program into which you went in the Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 18.971432807379053, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, she went to social work school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, but you went to law school. So did you go into the Peace Corps after law school then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Missed my graduation and went to training. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the legal program into which you went in the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The idea that, the idea of it was wonderful and the actuality, of course, is often something else. The idea of it was the Ford Foundation was funding a law school in Ethiopia and a project to codify the laws, thousands of years of traditional law, the common law of Ethiopia. They were putting them into codes, commercial code, criminal code, civil code. While, theoretically, while the Ethiopian traditional lawyers were going to law school, Peace Corps volunteer lawyers would help out and take their jobs while they were in law school temporarily and then have them come back. I don't believe I ever met a lawyer who was at the law school, and I never heard that the job that I was doing at any of the various ministries in which I worked was vacated by someone who was attending law school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what language were the laws written in?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 18.857147563754502, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Missed my graduation and went to training. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the legal program into which you went in the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The idea that, the idea of it was wonderful and the actuality, of course, is often something else. The idea of it was the Ford Foundation was funding a law school in Ethiopia and a project to codify the laws, thousands of years of traditional law, the common law of Ethiopia. They were putting them into codes, commercial code, criminal code, civil code. While, theoretically, while the Ethiopian traditional lawyers were going to law school, Peace Corps volunteer lawyers would help out and take their jobs while they were in law school temporarily and then have them come back. I don't believe I ever met a lawyer who was at the law school, and I never heard that the job that I was doing at any of the various ministries in which I worked was vacated by someone who was attending law school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what language were the laws written in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The new laws were written in Amharic and English. It was a trend of simultaneous and not a simultaneous translation, but a dual codification process."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is really interesting that you were codifying their traditional law."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 16.507941737505, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The idea that, the idea of it was wonderful and the actuality, of course, is often something else. The idea of it was the Ford Foundation was funding a law school in Ethiopia and a project to codify the laws, thousands of years of traditional law, the common law of Ethiopia. They were putting them into codes, commercial code, criminal code, civil code. While, theoretically, while the Ethiopian traditional lawyers were going to law school, Peace Corps volunteer lawyers would help out and take their jobs while they were in law school temporarily and then have them come back. I don't believe I ever met a lawyer who was at the law school, and I never heard that the job that I was doing at any of the various ministries in which I worked was vacated by someone who was attending law school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what language were the laws written in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "The new laws were written in Amharic and English. It was a trend of simultaneous and not a simultaneous translation, but a dual codification process."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is really interesting that you were codifying their traditional law."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I wasn't doing the codifying. I was sort of like, my first assignment was at the Ministry of Interior to review a contract coming from Reston, and this was particularly interesting, reviewing a contract by an Italian firm to do planning for 20 new towns in Ethiopia. So I figured, well, this is karma. You know, I know about new towns, I'm working on a project. Forget about it. It had nothing to do with the towns, it had to do with the contract and the Italians' firm getting money to do the work. But it was at the Ministry of Interior. It was an ad hoc job and after I was done with that, took a couple of months, I went to another ministry and worked work there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. Oh, interesting. So what was the training like? Where were you trained?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 13.897713041672219, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The new laws were written in Amharic and English. It was a trend of simultaneous and not a simultaneous translation, but a dual codification process."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is really interesting that you were codifying their traditional law."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I wasn't doing the codifying. I was sort of like, my first assignment was at the Ministry of Interior to review a contract coming from Reston, and this was particularly interesting, reviewing a contract by an Italian firm to do planning for 20 new towns in Ethiopia. So I figured, well, this is karma. You know, I know about new towns, I'm working on a project. Forget about it. It had nothing to do with the towns, it had to do with the contract and the Italians' firm getting money to do the work. But it was at the Ministry of Interior. It was an ad hoc job and after I was done with that, took a couple of months, I went to another ministry and worked work there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. Oh, interesting. So what was the training like? Where were you trained?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At UCLA. We were in a program for teachers, mostly teachers. Half the group was at UCLA and half was at Utah, and that was done for language purposes. They were experimenting with learning the language grammatically and the written language, which we did, versus learning the spoken language and the conversational language, which they did at Utah. And of course, all of us at UCLA envied the people who were learning to actually speak it. We could read signs and read the news. We could read the letters. We just didn't know what they meant. So three months later, they were in much better shape than we were. Twenty years down the road, we would have been much better prepared to be scholars in Amharic, which not many of us are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you have legal training for the Peace Corps too?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 14.330792268524688, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I wasn't doing the codifying. I was sort of like, my first assignment was at the Ministry of Interior to review a contract coming from Reston, and this was particularly interesting, reviewing a contract by an Italian firm to do planning for 20 new towns in Ethiopia. So I figured, well, this is karma. You know, I know about new towns, I'm working on a project. Forget about it. It had nothing to do with the towns, it had to do with the contract and the Italians' firm getting money to do the work. But it was at the Ministry of Interior. It was an ad hoc job and after I was done with that, took a couple of months, I went to another ministry and worked work there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. Oh, interesting. So what was the training like? Where were you trained?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "At UCLA. We were in a program for teachers, mostly teachers. Half the group was at UCLA and half was at Utah, and that was done for language purposes. They were experimenting with learning the language grammatically and the written language, which we did, versus learning the spoken language and the conversational language, which they did at Utah. And of course, all of us at UCLA envied the people who were learning to actually speak it. We could read signs and read the news. We could read the letters. We just didn't know what they meant. So three months later, they were in much better shape than we were. Twenty years down the road, we would have been much better prepared to be scholars in Amharic, which not many of us are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you have legal training for the Peace Corps too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did. The, um, I forget his title. I think he was the former attorney general. Bereket Habte Selassie."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was a very good friend of my husband's."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.700880298360763, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "At UCLA. We were in a program for teachers, mostly teachers. Half the group was at UCLA and half was at Utah, and that was done for language purposes. They were experimenting with learning the language grammatically and the written language, which we did, versus learning the spoken language and the conversational language, which they did at Utah. And of course, all of us at UCLA envied the people who were learning to actually speak it. We could read signs and read the news. We could read the letters. We just didn't know what they meant. So three months later, they were in much better shape than we were. Twenty years down the road, we would have been much better prepared to be scholars in Amharic, which not many of us are."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you have legal training for the Peace Corps too?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did. The, um, I forget his title. I think he was the former attorney general. Bereket Habte Selassie."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was a very good friend of my husband's."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, come on. Oh, he was just great. And he was at the Peace Corps training. He was our mentor. Brought us, I remember, up to, um, might have been Santa Barbara, where a wonderful institute is. Anyway, it's not important, but I knew the institute, I read a lot of their publications and we met with their scholars. But there were three of us in the program. The other two ended up dropping out. One before, no, I think we all got, we all went to Ethiopia, and they both terminated early. So I was the survivor. But yeah, Bereket was our mentor, spoke to us about the laws, and I don't remember anything specific other than being in his presence was just marvelous."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He was a wonderful person."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.22320033151196, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did. The, um, I forget his title. I think he was the former attorney general. Bereket Habte Selassie."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was a very good friend of my husband's."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, come on. Oh, he was just great. And he was at the Peace Corps training. He was our mentor. Brought us, I remember, up to, um, might have been Santa Barbara, where a wonderful institute is. Anyway, it's not important, but I knew the institute, I read a lot of their publications and we met with their scholars. But there were three of us in the program. The other two ended up dropping out. One before, no, I think we all got, we all went to Ethiopia, and they both terminated early. So I was the survivor. But yeah, Bereket was our mentor, spoke to us about the laws, and I don't remember anything specific other than being in his presence was just marvelous."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "He was a wonderful person."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Great guy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Offline we'll talk more about Bereket. And did you. So you were at UCLA, and then you flew. How long was that training?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.115062137669085, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Great guy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Offline we'll talk more about Bereket. And did you. So you were at UCLA, and then you flew. How long was that training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was three months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Three months."}, {"role": "user", "content": "June, July, August. Came back to New York and had a week in New York or so, I'm not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then flew off to Addis directly?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.57229126407676, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was three months."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Three months."}, {"role": "user", "content": "June, July, August. Came back to New York and had a week in New York or so, I'm not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then flew off to Addis directly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. Was there any training in country after that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.191434737863066, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "June, July, August. Came back to New York and had a week in New York or so, I'm not sure."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then flew off to Addis directly?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. Was there any training in country after that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were you stationed in Addis?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.99048304207007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. Was there any training in country after that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were you stationed in Addis?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you were in the legal program?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.989425602300077, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And were you stationed in Addis?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you were in the legal program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And your wife then got a job there as well?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:43", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 22.210472891444528, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you were in the legal program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And your wife then got a job there as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, she was the sole social worker. So it was kind of an individual placement idea, but they had very good jobs lined up. I think they had them lined up for her. I don't think she had to look for them. She was at an orphanage, a mental hospital, and a juvenile home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what, how was your living situation in Addis?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 25.1493261567513, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yeah. The lawyers in our program, we saw a bit. But then when the next group of lawyers came, we were friendlier with them. We knew one of them from home. My wife's good friend married a lawyer at Harvard, and she and he came over. She ended up teaching social studies and he was part of this, I think there were six or seven in the next group of lawyers. So we were pretty friendly with them and I was mentoring them a bit too. And other volunteers from our training group would come into Addis and they'd always stay with us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then did you meet Ethiopians? Were you? Did you become friends with them? Did you work with them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. All of the above. Our neighbors. We went to the wedding of people who are our age. I guess we met them, the woman lived a couple of doors down from us on our dirt road and I think we just met her from the neighborhood. We ended up having kids at the same time. We had our first child, a son, born over there. And she had a child born also, a boy, and her brother-in-law and etcetera, we were friendly with. And then the people I worked with, I mean, we were, we had friends, but these were kind of the neighbor, the kind of coffee klatch people you would have as neighbors now. And even, let's see, 1992, when our son who was born there was going to go in the Peace Corps, we had a trip to Ethiopia. They were still living in the same house and we just dropped in on them. We didn't have any contact information, but they were still there and it was just like, you know, camp friends, school friends, renewing contacts. We just started chattering away and it was just delightful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you communicate with them in Amharic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "English."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In English. So they all spoke English?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 27.943695729723668, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. All of the above. Our neighbors. We went to the wedding of people who are our age. I guess we met them, the woman lived a couple of doors down from us on our dirt road and I think we just met her from the neighborhood. We ended up having kids at the same time. We had our first child, a son, born over there. And she had a child born also, a boy, and her brother-in-law and etcetera, we were friendly with. And then the people I worked with, I mean, we were, we had friends, but these were kind of the neighbor, the kind of coffee klatch people you would have as neighbors now. And even, let's see, 1992, when our son who was born there was going to go in the Peace Corps, we had a trip to Ethiopia. They were still living in the same house and we just dropped in on them. We didn't have any contact information, but they were still there and it was just like, you know, camp friends, school friends, renewing contacts. We just started chattering away and it was just delightful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So did you communicate with them in Amharic?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "English."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In English. So they all spoke English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. Our Amharic never got good enough, and the people we were working with all spoke English, the professionals that and the legal professionals and the. But we would, you know, chit chat in Amharic. They'd tolerate us for a while and then they switched to English to make it easier for all of us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And let me ask some more about the job itself. So you were working on contracts for these new towns. What other kinds of work were you doing?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 23.2707730330263, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "English."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In English. So they all spoke English?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. Our Amharic never got good enough, and the people we were working with all spoke English, the professionals that and the legal professionals and the. But we would, you know, chit chat in Amharic. They'd tolerate us for a while and then they switched to English to make it easier for all of us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And let me ask some more about the job itself. So you were working on contracts for these new towns. What other kinds of work were you doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, in the morning, as I recall, in the morning, I would go to my job and in the afternoon I'd come back to the Institute of Public Administration, where we would be based. Oh, and there were lawyers there before me, so we would all get together and we would proofread the laws that were being proclaimed. Because the new laws when. I might have this a little bit off, I think it was the new laws were being, like in the Federal Register. They were being advertised and they were being, not promulgated, but just being proposed, and then if there were people who objected. I mean, nobody objected to Haile Selassie, but, you know, they ran through the process.\n\nBut we would proofread it to make sure that it was being translated into English the right way. So we spent a lot of time proofreading, which is deadly. But the fun work was in the mornings at the ministries. Yeah, but the. So the typical day was I would leave the house, get the bus down to the Ministry of Interior, come home for lunch. After lunch, go to the Institute of Public Administration, which was a ten minute walk or so, and work there in the afternoon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is a very unusual kind of Peace Corps assignment, isn't it?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 25.85641448114033, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. Our Amharic never got good enough, and the people we were working with all spoke English, the professionals that and the legal professionals and the. But we would, you know, chit chat in Amharic. They'd tolerate us for a while and then they switched to English to make it easier for all of us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And let me ask some more about the job itself. So you were working on contracts for these new towns. What other kinds of work were you doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, in the morning, as I recall, in the morning, I would go to my job and in the afternoon I'd come back to the Institute of Public Administration, where we would be based. Oh, and there were lawyers there before me, so we would all get together and we would proofread the laws that were being proclaimed. Because the new laws when. I might have this a little bit off, I think it was the new laws were being, like in the Federal Register. They were being advertised and they were being, not promulgated, but just being proposed, and then if there were people who objected. I mean, nobody objected to Haile Selassie, but, you know, they ran through the process.\n\nBut we would proofread it to make sure that it was being translated into English the right way. So we spent a lot of time proofreading, which is deadly. But the fun work was in the mornings at the ministries. Yeah, but the. So the typical day was I would leave the house, get the bus down to the Ministry of Interior, come home for lunch. After lunch, go to the Institute of Public Administration, which was a ten minute walk or so, and work there in the afternoon."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is a very unusual kind of Peace Corps assignment, isn't it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it was a good thing for Peace Corps, to have lawyers in the Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 33.71214507378227, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We had both. I mean, we all, we started off with a male and he left for a better job and then we got a female."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess my question was directed more at the politics of it, since you were in the legal field."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh sorry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, no. Both are good. But coming from the United States and the thought of rule of law in the United States, did it differ under an emperor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you knew where all power came from and occasionally it looked like there were great changes because the cabinet would change and they would just shuffle around and change positions. We figured it was probably because he felt somebody might be getting too entrenched and might challenge him. I don't think, aside from whispered comments about Haile Selassie, you know, you wouldn't criticize him openly. I don't think anybody, I don't remember feeling a police power or a police state. There wasn't, there weren't people around all over. But I think there was a suspicion, a fear of intelligence people being around and people who might report. I don't think we felt it because we weren't doing anything sensitive, and we were young and naive. You know, we didn't think in those terms, that anybody would care about what we said. But in fact, they could very well have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You might have been watched."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:73", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 35.23571674864696, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh sorry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, no. Both are good. But coming from the United States and the thought of rule of law in the United States, did it differ under an emperor?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you knew where all power came from and occasionally it looked like there were great changes because the cabinet would change and they would just shuffle around and change positions. We figured it was probably because he felt somebody might be getting too entrenched and might challenge him. I don't think, aside from whispered comments about Haile Selassie, you know, you wouldn't criticize him openly. I don't think anybody, I don't remember feeling a police power or a police state. There wasn't, there weren't people around all over. But I think there was a suspicion, a fear of intelligence people being around and people who might report. I don't think we felt it because we weren't doing anything sensitive, and we were young and naive. You know, we didn't think in those terms, that anybody would care about what we said. But in fact, they could very well have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You might have been watched."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We might have been watched. Yeah, yeah. But it wasn't apparent. And my wife in her work met the emperor's granddaughters and had some work to do with them. And that was, they were educated in England and were very open and educated and liberal thinking, at least in terms of social policies. I guess we didn't get into politics much because there wasn't any opposition party. There was nothing to talk about. I remember one TV commentator, Musay somebody, was rather on the edge. He had been educated abroad, had very good English, might have been gay, was just a little bit on the edge of society and was more politically open. I don't remember anybody else being that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you travel throughout Ethiopia to neighboring countries during vacations?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 19, "return_to_go": 39.150796387385505, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, you knew where all power came from and occasionally it looked like there were great changes because the cabinet would change and they would just shuffle around and change positions. We figured it was probably because he felt somebody might be getting too entrenched and might challenge him. I don't think, aside from whispered comments about Haile Selassie, you know, you wouldn't criticize him openly. I don't think anybody, I don't remember feeling a police power or a police state. There wasn't, there weren't people around all over. But I think there was a suspicion, a fear of intelligence people being around and people who might report. I don't think we felt it because we weren't doing anything sensitive, and we were young and naive. You know, we didn't think in those terms, that anybody would care about what we said. But in fact, they could very well have."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You might have been watched."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We might have been watched. Yeah, yeah. But it wasn't apparent. And my wife in her work met the emperor's granddaughters and had some work to do with them. And that was, they were educated in England and were very open and educated and liberal thinking, at least in terms of social policies. I guess we didn't get into politics much because there wasn't any opposition party. There was nothing to talk about. I remember one TV commentator, Musay somebody, was rather on the edge. He had been educated abroad, had very good English, might have been gay, was just a little bit on the edge of society and was more politically open. I don't remember anybody else being that way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you travel throughout Ethiopia to neighboring countries during vacations?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. Both."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you go?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.516836438630552, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Great deal. So unfortunately, it was discovered that I was absent without leave, and while I was good friends with the director, he said, well, look, I've got to do something. What do you suggest? I said, I had heard of one month of unsatisfactory conduct, thinking that was one month of the readjustment allowance, 75 bucks. I figured that was probably appropriate. And he seemed to think that was a little harsh, but he did it. I thought it was a pretty good trade. So anyway, I saw a lot of Africa then. And then on our holiday, the first summer we went down to, again unauthorized, we went to South Africa because we just wanted to see how bad the situation was there. Peace Corps wasn't allowed to go. And we went to Malawi and the Rhodesias, what was then Rhodesia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you not allowed to? So Peace Corps was not allowed to go to Somalia, um, to South Africa?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Under apartheid."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. And I remember, I remember most vividly that entering the country, they took away my Playboy. They didn't give it back. But that was the biggest thing I found. Plus, drive, I mean, it was lots of horrible stuff and we visited a friend. We traveled with another Peace Corps couple from Ethiopia, and they had a friend from college who was working for Citibank down there. Gorgeous big house and nice, I mean, servants and everything. But the servants, I remember they had to leave the house before dark so they could get back to their township. And that there were signs along the road. Please don't go into the native areas, we don't want the privacy of our natives to be disturbed. Meaning don't cause any trouble by asking questions. So there, I mean, it was powerful to see this, and I was so sorry that Peace Corps didn't allow it. I'm sure it wasn't for any reason other than it didn't, they didn't want us to get into trouble in a country where we were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or support the regime."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:85", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.46315159847839, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Under apartheid."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. And I remember, I remember most vividly that entering the country, they took away my Playboy. They didn't give it back. But that was the biggest thing I found. Plus, drive, I mean, it was lots of horrible stuff and we visited a friend. We traveled with another Peace Corps couple from Ethiopia, and they had a friend from college who was working for Citibank down there. Gorgeous big house and nice, I mean, servants and everything. But the servants, I remember they had to leave the house before dark so they could get back to their township. And that there were signs along the road. Please don't go into the native areas, we don't want the privacy of our natives to be disturbed. Meaning don't cause any trouble by asking questions. So there, I mean, it was powerful to see this, and I was so sorry that Peace Corps didn't allow it. I'm sure it wasn't for any reason other than it didn't, they didn't want us to get into trouble in a country where we were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or support the regime."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, maybe could be seen as."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that was before, it was before sanctions, I'm sure."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:87", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 21.625723998309322, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. And I remember, I remember most vividly that entering the country, they took away my Playboy. They didn't give it back. But that was the biggest thing I found. Plus, drive, I mean, it was lots of horrible stuff and we visited a friend. We traveled with another Peace Corps couple from Ethiopia, and they had a friend from college who was working for Citibank down there. Gorgeous big house and nice, I mean, servants and everything. But the servants, I remember they had to leave the house before dark so they could get back to their township. And that there were signs along the road. Please don't go into the native areas, we don't want the privacy of our natives to be disturbed. Meaning don't cause any trouble by asking questions. So there, I mean, it was powerful to see this, and I was so sorry that Peace Corps didn't allow it. I'm sure it wasn't for any reason other than it didn't, they didn't want us to get into trouble in a country where we were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or support the regime."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, maybe could be seen as."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that was before, it was before sanctions, I'm sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, that's true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think sanctions came quite a bit later than that."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:89", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 24.02858222034369, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, maybe could be seen as."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that was before, it was before sanctions, I'm sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, that's true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think sanctions came quite a bit later than that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Anyway, the other countries were interesting, but this was pretty powerful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you did your job for two years? I did. And then what did you do? How did you decide, were you going straight home or what? I think you stayed an extra, no, you stayed two years and an extra month."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 23.365091355937434, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, that's true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think sanctions came quite a bit later than that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Anyway, the other countries were interesting, but this was pretty powerful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you did your job for two years? I did. And then what did you do? How did you decide, were you going straight home or what? I think you stayed an extra, no, you stayed two years and an extra month."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I stayed the extra month because I, my project was what was really big. That's what dominated my presence there. In the spring of '66, we'd been there about seven to eight months, one of the emperor's granddaughters came to Peace Corps. Had come back from England and said, you know, we really should have a summer camp in Ethiopia. We should have a camp for our kids. And it would be a great way for tribes to come together and to break down some of the barriers that the tribes have against each other and make them more collegial, if you will. So Peace Corps, one of the staff members, came to me knowing my father owned a summer camp in Maine. And I must have said how much I love it or whatever. And he came and said, you want to start a camp? And I said, sure, thinking, no big deal."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I know how to run a camp."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 20.70734850775405, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we lost that. We didn't have any sessions that really focused on it. It was much more, let's just get this off the ground and let somebody else worry about the tribal stuff. We didn't, and they didn't push us on it. So we just got the camp organized and then it continued."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where was the camp?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was at a, the one lake that Peace Corps said is safe to swim in, Lake Langano, and we called it Camp Langano, L-A-N-G-A-N- O. It's about, I think it was 190, 200 kilometers from Addis south, and it was, it had a hotel down there that was a relatively nice hotel. Now it's much more developed, I understand. And it ran for seven years until the emperor was overthrown and the communist regime came in and stopped that kind of independent youth development and thinking."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you continued to do law and camp for the rest of your life, you say?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rest of my life. My father died in '74 when we finished in Thailand, well we cut it a little bit short."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We'll go back to all of that, yeah."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:103", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 21.86092408364697, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Rest of my life. My father died in '74 when we finished in Thailand, well we cut it a little bit short."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We'll go back to all of that, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But yes, I've been doing that ever since. And then I started a camp in South Africa when I, about fifteen years ago, when I was phasing out of my camp in Maine. I figured through the success of Camp Langano, there haven't been camps in Africa. I figured in the 35 years since this would pick up, but it never did. So I figured, let's go back and do something else back there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And make it a different kind of a focus, a life skills focus, more of a, what are the biggest problems that kids have? Well, in Ethiopia, the emperor's family thought it was tribal. There were many more problems, but let's deal with tribalism. We could have dealt with tribalism in South Africa, but we're dealing with AIDS, abusive behaviors, sexuality, gender bias, self-image, empowerment, all these things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that continues in South Africa?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:107", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 26.98879516499626, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And make it a different kind of a focus, a life skills focus, more of a, what are the biggest problems that kids have? Well, in Ethiopia, the emperor's family thought it was tribal. There were many more problems, but let's deal with tribalism. We could have dealt with tribalism in South Africa, but we're dealing with AIDS, abusive behaviors, sexuality, gender bias, self-image, empowerment, all these things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that continues in South Africa?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's going on now. Yeah, I go over three times a year. We have three camps a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fantastic."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's a whole other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's another whole thing. Yes, we should probably move on because you have so many Peace Corps related experiences. So you stayed to launch the camp and then what happened? How did you end up as general counsel?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 29.98755018332918, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's going on now. Yeah, I go over three times a year. We have three camps a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fantastic."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's a whole other."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's another whole thing. Yes, we should probably move on because you have so many Peace Corps related experiences. So you stayed to launch the camp and then what happened? How did you end up as general counsel?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I just applied. I came back and was looking for a job. I worked for a law firm. And actually, I interviewed at Peace Corps and they said, we don't take anybody right back from Peace Corps. You've got to have another job first. And it was lovely. I mean, I was really in sync with the people at the General Counsel's office, whom I didn't know. I just went and called for an interview, and it just was a great feeling. I said, this is a place I want to be. So I went to work for a corporate law firm. It was not a very great experience. I'm not wonderful at being in a, I don't know whether it's a corporate setting or a formal setting. I like having access to the top and having a free exchange of ideas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You don't like hierarchy."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:117", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 15, "return_to_go": 29.397272036776677, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was quite a very, well, one thing I liked about it was it was so varied. I dealt, my first issue was whether somebody from Swains Island near American Samoa can be a Peace Corps volunteer. Whether you are considered a U.S. citizen by virtue of being a Swains Island resident or citizen, I mean, I still don't remember. It was a fun project. I remember letting a lot of humor get in, and the other lawyers were saying. They were laughing, no, sorry, this has got to come out. This has got to come out. It was very function, well, part of it was regional. I would handle the problems from the region and I would also get all the problems from either administration, special service. I think it's called special services, the people who do the early terminations."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you deal with liability issues in Peace Corps? Were you responsible for outlawing motorcycles?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't, well, all the regulations came through our office and yes, I did a lot of those. I don't remember about motorcycles. Probably not."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In all of the interviews I've done, it's pre-motorcycle and post-motorcycle regulations."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ah, interesting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's a very big issue in Peace Corps history. You were not involved."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:125", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 19.474580150551247, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You're very welcome. It's my pleasure. You never know. You never know where, you know, where you might have an impact. And this was not, you know, a volunteer or your typical thing. But this is where lobbying and who you know becomes important. So it was fascinating. I mean, the General Counsel's office was great. I was there before my time though, because what I wanted to do was go part time after my father's death. I wanted to get involved with our camp, but I couldn't work full time with the government and do that, and they didn't have any part time work or flex hours or anything like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you then left General Counsel's office?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I left General Counsel's office to go overseas. When I came back, I wanted to do the part time, but I wanted to get. The General Counsel's office was meant to be two and a half years. It ended up being three, because I did want to get a full assignment overseas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So then you went to the Philippines."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk a little bit about that experience as well."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:127", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 13.860644611723606, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I left General Counsel's office to go overseas. When I came back, I wanted to do the part time, but I wanted to get. The General Counsel's office was meant to be two and a half years. It ended up being three, because I did want to get a full assignment overseas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So then you went to the Philippines."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Talk a little bit about that experience as well."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, that was a riot because it gave me such a great understanding about home office and field. As soon as I got there, they were bitching about Peace Corps regulations, and I said, you know, I wrote that regulation. What's the problem with that? And then they'd say, oh. So I would fight from their side against General Counsel. I'd say, you guys, this couldn't apply to us. This is a different situation. Said no, this is what it means. Anyway, it was really interesting. But I was, uh, Mindanao is the southernmost island of the Philippines. It's quite large and now it's been in the process of a Muslim revolution or Muslim led revolution. A lot of Muslims down there and the Christians of the, the Catholics of Luzon really imposed control over there. And there's been a lot of fighting. Even when I was there, there were gunshots as we were traveling and there were some scary situations.\n\nBut it was a marvelous independence where I had responsibility for all the programs in Mindanao. And I think we must have had a hundred volunteers and seven or eight programs. Fisheries, agriculture, teaching, community development, all of which I had to get to be something of a, expert is much too severe, but I had to acquire a working knowledge. And it was fun going around and seeing the volunteers and talking to learning, about fish farms and tilapia and fingerlings and fry and the banks of the fishpond. We just took my grand, two grandsons, my wife and I took two grandsons down to Ecuador and down to the Amazon River basin, and one of the communities had fish ponds, and I said, ah!"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You knew all about it."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:141", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.607356459395, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Yeah. And Peace Corps probably tells people that more now than they did with us. With us, your job was important and this is what you're going to do, and you know, we're relying on you to do it well. But everybody found that out. And you know, I'm sure, Peace Corps is resilient enough and we're there. You know, Peace Corps is us. So it's, you know, the former volunteers who get there who then say, yeah, your job may not work out, but then it's not. That's when you show how good you are, when something doesn't work out. How do you bounce back? And I think that's true in life. It's not how well you do the job that you're given. But when that job doesn't work, how well do you do the next? How well do you do the rest of life? That's what we need to learn."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you stayed in touch with people in Ethiopia, Philippines, Thailand, on an ongoing basis now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, not many. Peace Corps volunteers. But yeah, a lot of unanswered emails from Ethiopia. And Thailand and the Philippines, we really didn't have the same kind of strong contact."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you were staff."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Too busy with staff. Yeah. And the staff, my staff friends, Thais and Filipinos, didn't really extend those contacts for us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I asked about impact on your life. What about the countries in which you've worked? I know you worked directly in Ethiopia and you talked a little about that, but think about Thailand. There was, I don't know, thousands and thousands of volunteers who went to Thailand and Philippines. You think there's been an impact? I mean, those are three of the biggest programs probably in the world, I mean, in Peace Corps experience. There were so many volunteers. You think that Peace Corps had an impact on those countries? Does it matter?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:149", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.42380195, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, but I've gotten very, what? Non. I'm not too harsh on myself about it. I'm clear in my own spirit and mind that I'm doing what I can do best. So, you know, I can't be a surgeon. I've got a hammer and everything looks like, and I've got a camping hammer and everything looks like a nail. We'll solve it by camps. We'll solve it by experiential education. We'll solve it by getting people together and discussing it. These are the tools that I have. And then if we can get people in with the subject matter expertise that we're looking for, HIV AIDS or whatever it might be, we'll bring those into the party. It's, uh, it might be a cop out a little bit, but we're still and we're still evaluating the programs as we go along. We've got a group at University of Pretoria that's doing a five-year study with us, and maybe they will find the silver bullet as to whether we're doing it well or not. Of course, I would like to know if what I'm devoting my life to is working."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would be nice, but I am confident that I'm doing the best I can do and we might need to go off in slightly different directions. So it's, uh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, you want to continually adjust what you're doing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To move in that direction."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:151", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.9153355, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That would be nice, but I am confident that I'm doing the best I can do and we might need to go off in slightly different directions. So it's, uh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I mean, you want to continually adjust what you're doing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To move in that direction."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So then the third goal of Peace Corps is bringing the world back to the United States."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:153", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 16.572595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "To move in that direction."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So then the third goal of Peace Corps is bringing the world back to the United States."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Think about, do you have any thoughts about achievement of the third goal of Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00085:161", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 13.95, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So last summer, we had 18 of our counselors coming over to the U.S., going to camps. Many of them repeat at the same camps because the camps love them. Two of them for the first time were assigned full time in Reston to a local childcare center summer program where we've got a lot of input. We know those people very well and they're major stars, they're superstars. Because a lot of camps want internationals, but they never. I would, well never is awfully hard, especially for a lawyer. Rarely, rarely do the internationals have camp experience, so we provide great people with camp experience. They can just walk into a camp and they could take it over. I mean, they could run it, but they don't. I mean, they're just good counselors.\n\nSomebody was looking. Oh, we had a friend. A local minister has a peace camp and she was having trouble. They just started it and they were having trouble getting counselors. They just run it for one week and administrators said, get some of our guys over. They can come at the end of the summer. They would love to do this and they will run that camp for you just the way you want it with it, with the love, the attention, with the discussion. And it's a marvelous pure exchange."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And so we, you know, we have black South Africans over here who are accepted in the community. People fight for them to stay with them because housing at a day camp program is really tough. And we have people in Reston who said, I want them. Next year they stay with me."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And this is, you know, what more could you want? It's great."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you stayed involved with Peace Corps activities? There's a Northern Virginia Peace Corps association, I know that. Are you involved with that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 16.294598621602773, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure, I kind of miss that. It's when I applied to the Peace Corps in order to start in the fall of sixty six, I applied in the spring of 66. And at that point Vietnam was not, you know, what it was in the newspapers, but that that was about it. That was before all the escalation. But. You know, as time went by, of course, you know, I didn't really know what was going on, going on, except what I read in the papers. And to the extent papers got to where I was in Paraguay, probably not much of an extent, but I could tell as far as the war was escalating and it got to be a bigger and bigger issue. Sure. I was very glad I was getting a deferment out of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what does your family and friends think of you volunteering?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were all for it. They fought for pretty much the same reasons that the you know, the idealistic reasons and the adventure of it all. I mean, it was it was fun. It was it was an interesting thing for their friend and son to be doing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you go to training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Las Cruces, New Mexico, at New Mexico State University. I guess it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What what did your training to teach this stuff and how long were you there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.931868040851663, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just Paraguay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many about how many people were in your training group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thirty something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And that's about how many went down there. There were a couple of people who didn't make the cut, but most of them did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were training for three months and then you took off for Paraguay?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 14.368742267612959, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Thirty something."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And that's about how many went down there. There were a couple of people who didn't make the cut, but most of them did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were training for three months and then you took off for Paraguay?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, and what was your first impression on arriving in the country?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.520824741792175, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And that's about how many went down there. There were a couple of people who didn't make the cut, but most of them did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you were training for three months and then you took off for Paraguay?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, and what was your first impression on arriving in the country?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh. Hot, it was hot, it was poor, but somehow or other, it all worked and there are a lot of we first came to Asunción, the capital, stayed in the hotel there. That was you know, I looked at our expense there. There's a whole town, you know, as I say, basically the poor. And that was a problem. There's a whole town full of people speaking Spanish. And that was something of a I mean, that took a little getting used to it and not only speaking Spanish, but everything, you know, they were living they were there was an economy going on. They were eating. They were kind of doing the normal things people do. And yet it was not in the United States. It was not like the standard of living that Americans take for granted. And yet it all worked. I mean, that was I guess that was from the first impression I."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This isn't the best I could at least give us some idea. So this is what I do now. I should be getting bifocals, but in the meantime, I'm taking off and putting out my glasses. Uh. Ok, Paraguay. Oh, OK, so here it is right in the middle. Asunción is right there."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 12.800916379769083, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, and what was your first impression on arriving in the country?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh. Hot, it was hot, it was poor, but somehow or other, it all worked and there are a lot of we first came to Asunción, the capital, stayed in the hotel there. That was you know, I looked at our expense there. There's a whole town, you know, as I say, basically the poor. And that was a problem. There's a whole town full of people speaking Spanish. And that was something of a I mean, that took a little getting used to it and not only speaking Spanish, but everything, you know, they were living they were there was an economy going on. They were eating. They were kind of doing the normal things people do. And yet it was not in the United States. It was not like the standard of living that Americans take for granted. And yet it all worked. I mean, that was I guess that was from the first impression I."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This isn't the best I could at least give us some idea. So this is what I do now. I should be getting bifocals, but in the meantime, I'm taking off and putting out my glasses. Uh. Ok, Paraguay. Oh, OK, so here it is right in the middle. Asunción is right there."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right here. It's on the river."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so so you were staying in a hotel and did they continue to have, like, orientation and training in Asunción?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.099896765147014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right here. It's on the river."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so so you were staying in a hotel and did they continue to have, like, orientation and training in Asunción?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I don't really remember. I think that was I think there was we got down there and they weren't quite ready for us. They were the first group. Yeah. Yeah. So it took a while to get everything lined up. I think some of the volunteers had their jobs and their situations are good to go right at the outset, but I was not one of them. So there were not the bulk of the volunteers in this first group were had up on farms, knew about agriculture, and they were they were the agricultural contingent. And they were going to work in the Paraguayan Agricultural Extension Service and, you know, share their knowledge of US agricultural practices with the Paraguayans. And a smaller group was known as a university group. And, you know, we'd all just graduated from college and and we didn't know anything about agriculture, didn't know anything useful. So we were going to we were going to teach it at various levels. And I think just because of the academic calendar or whatever, I forgot what the reason was. But a number of university group folks, you know, had to hang around and it situation for a while before they really got going."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you were one of those."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did you do while you were to occupy yourself?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.444329739052236, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I don't really remember. I think that was I think there was we got down there and they weren't quite ready for us. They were the first group. Yeah. Yeah. So it took a while to get everything lined up. I think some of the volunteers had their jobs and their situations are good to go right at the outset, but I was not one of them. So there were not the bulk of the volunteers in this first group were had up on farms, knew about agriculture, and they were they were the agricultural contingent. And they were going to work in the Paraguayan Agricultural Extension Service and, you know, share their knowledge of US agricultural practices with the Paraguayans. And a smaller group was known as a university group. And, you know, we'd all just graduated from college and and we didn't know anything about agriculture, didn't know anything useful. So we were going to we were going to teach it at various levels. And I think just because of the academic calendar or whatever, I forgot what the reason was. But a number of university group folks, you know, had to hang around and it situation for a while before they really got going."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you were one of those."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did you do while you were to occupy yourself?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh, I don't know. I don't remember. Killed a lot of time, I guess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, but eventually you received an assignment."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 14.938144154502485, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did you do while you were to occupy yourself?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh, I don't know. I don't remember. Killed a lot of time, I guess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, but eventually you received an assignment."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was that? Where was that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.486826838336095, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh, I don't know. I don't remember. Killed a lot of time, I guess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, but eventually you received an assignment."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was that? Where was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And in a town called Villarrica, which was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you spell that"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 17.207585375928993, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was that? Where was that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And in a town called Villarrica, which was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you spell that"}, {"role": "user", "content": "V-I-L-L-A-R-R-I-C-A. Villarrica."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just like it sounds. Um, what was the assignment?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.675094862143323, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And in a town called Villarrica, which was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how do you spell that"}, {"role": "user", "content": "V-I-L-L-A-R-R-I-C-A. Villarrica."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just like it sounds. Um, what was the assignment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I went there to, well AID had built a big school building kind of on the outskirts of town that was supposed to be a consolidated high school. And this was back in the days when in the US, anyway, consolidated high schools were thought to be more efficient and more of something, that kind of thing to do in the US at the time. So USAID was exporting this to the countries that are providing aid and doing things like it's project, which is to build this big a very nice school building in Billerica and then have that be the center for a unified school district at the secondary school level. So kids came from the surrounding area and some of them even even lived in Villarrica. So they, you know, didn’t just commute from their families in town, but rather came to Villarrica to live and go to this high school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They boarded with a family or something?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 15.89517884215225, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I went there to, well AID had built a big school building kind of on the outskirts of town that was supposed to be a consolidated high school. And this was back in the days when in the US, anyway, consolidated high schools were thought to be more efficient and more of something, that kind of thing to do in the US at the time. So USAID was exporting this to the countries that are providing aid and doing things like it's project, which is to build this big a very nice school building in Billerica and then have that be the center for a unified school district at the secondary school level. So kids came from the surrounding area and some of them even even lived in Villarrica. So they, you know, didn’t just commute from their families in town, but rather came to Villarrica to live and go to this high school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They boarded with a family or something?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, a lot of them boarded where I lived. I lived in a it was denominated a hotel was actually more like a boarding house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was a kid there who was going to this high school. And there were other hundreds of students who were not living right there, but also making the same sort of arrangements to go to this high school. And I was assigned there first as an English teacher, teaching English as a second language."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about now, did you have to find your own housing or was that arranged for you?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.327976491280277, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, a lot of them boarded where I lived. I lived in a it was denominated a hotel was actually more like a boarding house."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There was a kid there who was going to this high school. And there were other hundreds of students who were not living right there, but also making the same sort of arrangements to go to this high school. And I was assigned there first as an English teacher, teaching English as a second language."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So tell me about now, did you have to find your own housing or was that arranged for you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I, uh. I ended up, when I first got to Villarrica, I stayed at this hotel, the name of which was Hotel Luduso, which is a guanine, a local Indian name, and it means something like the blue hills in the background or something like that. Had some colorful translation. And as I said, it's really more of a boarding house than a hotel. Typical Spanish architecture, rectangular shape around the courtyard."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Checking, making sure."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 13.868276926200693, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then physically, the classrooms are very nice. And I say this is a recent aid project. Uh, not a lot of bells and whistles I. At the time, Villarrica had only spotty electrical service, I think once the electricity was on from 6:00 at night till 10:00 at night or something like that, so it wasn't all day long and this was better than than the most towns and most towns had electrical service for two hours once a week, something like that. So Paraguay or Iberico was better off than most. But still there wasn't enough so that the usual things you would expect to find a secondary school like slide projectors, you know, certainly. And that was before computers, of course. But all that was not there. So what it amounted to was a building. I don't even remember whether it was wild for electricity. I imagine there must be some somewhere. And there was plumbing and that was it. That's what you got. That's blackboards and chalk. So the physical surroundings were you know, they were new and the construction quality was good and everything, but. But that was it. That's all it was just just kind of a roof and a classroom. We had teaching materials and I don't remember what they had for English as a second language, although I think I made a lot of a lot of it up myself later. Mimeograph machines or mimeographs things. And that's old technology. I'm sure my kids don't even know what I mean, but I do. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Now, were there other volunteers teaching at the school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And not when I was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I was there. I was the only American in the town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, you were the only American."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 12.075863251334102, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And not when I was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I was there. I was the only American in the town."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, you were the only American."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I actually. That's not true. Was I was the only American Peace Corps volunteer who was a high missionary. Oh yes. And before her and before I had gotten there, there were a couple of Mormon missionaries who'd come there trying to trying to get converts to Mormonism. And people still talked about that. But they didn't talk about Mormonism. They talked about how well they played basketball. These are, you know, big tall guys and they impress everyone on the basketball team."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's funny. And now what did you do in your your your time?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.315597090891787, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Beats me. There it was. I got there and there it was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You didn’t bring it with you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no. I can't take credit for that. But it was already there. It was a great big deal. And there were these tournaments going on and, uh, including tournaments. There was one tournament that you had a very high level that was held in the Areca and the American team was playing the team from some other time. I forget what for the championship or something. But that was that was a very big deal. And everybody went to see that it's kind of, you know, sort of like high school football in Texas. It was it was kind of the local entertainment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess it it amazes me because I was in Jamaica. I was a volunteer from 90 to 92."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, and that's so close to the United States and so many people, uh, Jamaicans immigrate to US and Canada so much. And basketball was just beginning to pass right there in 1990. And so I'm just amazed that in the sixties, somehow basketball got to parent way. So there's a story behind that somewhere."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.239552323213097, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no. I can't take credit for that. But it was already there. It was a great big deal. And there were these tournaments going on and, uh, including tournaments. There was one tournament that you had a very high level that was held in the Areca and the American team was playing the team from some other time. I forget what for the championship or something. But that was that was a very big deal. And everybody went to see that it's kind of, you know, sort of like high school football in Texas. It was it was kind of the local entertainment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess it it amazes me because I was in Jamaica. I was a volunteer from 90 to 92."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, and that's so close to the United States and so many people, uh, Jamaicans immigrate to US and Canada so much. And basketball was just beginning to pass right there in 1990. And so I'm just amazed that in the sixties, somehow basketball got to parent way. So there's a story behind that somewhere."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sure there is. I don't know how the story is over there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's such an American sport, you know."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.15505813690344, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, and that's so close to the United States and so many people, uh, Jamaicans immigrate to US and Canada so much. And basketball was just beginning to pass right there in 1990. And so I'm just amazed that in the sixties, somehow basketball got to parent way. So there's a story behind that somewhere."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sure there is. I don't know how the story is over there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's such an American sport, you know."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, well, another thing that happened was that the the the competitors in the Harlem Globetrotters and there is a team out there like the Harlem Globetrotters, it wasn't it wasn't the Harlem Globetrotters or whatever this other team was, they came to Paraguay and put on an exhibition game."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "While you were there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:63", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.1722868187816, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sure there is. I don't know how the story is over there"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's such an American sport, you know."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, well, another thing that happened was that the the the competitors in the Harlem Globetrotters and there is a team out there like the Harlem Globetrotters, it wasn't it wasn't the Harlem Globetrotters or whatever this other team was, they came to Paraguay and put on an exhibition game."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "While you were there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was there. I went to it. I was it was incredible. It was just the big event the whole town turned out, everybody."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it was a US team?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:65", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.302540909757333, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, well, another thing that happened was that the the the competitors in the Harlem Globetrotters and there is a team out there like the Harlem Globetrotters, it wasn't it wasn't the Harlem Globetrotters or whatever this other team was, they came to Paraguay and put on an exhibition game."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "While you were there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was there. I went to it. I was it was incredible. It was just the big event the whole town turned out, everybody."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it was a US team?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, kind of the counterpart to the Harlem Globetrotters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. What a hoot. How did you spend your whole two years there on the same assignment or."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.558378788619258, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was there. I went to it. I was it was incredible. It was just the big event the whole town turned out, everybody."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But it was a US team?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, kind of the counterpart to the Harlem Globetrotters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. What a hoot. How did you spend your whole two years there on the same assignment or."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did. And what did you do during, I'm assuming they had some kind of a break, as you know, school break or like three months, like we do here."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 13.953754209576953, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, kind of the counterpart to the Harlem Globetrotters."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. What a hoot. How did you spend your whole two years there on the same assignment or."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did. And what did you do during, I'm assuming they had some kind of a break, as you know, school break or like three months, like we do here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, indeed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What time of year was that break?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 13.28194912175217, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did. And what did you do during, I'm assuming they had some kind of a break, as you know, school break or like three months, like we do here."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, indeed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What time of year was that break?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was their summertime, in the wintertime up here. And, yeah, they had they had pretty much the same academic calendar we do for a big, long break in the summer. And I did a fair amount of travel. And that was one thing that kids were volunteers were in a position to do. I think maybe a month at a time I forgot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you travel out of the country to travel within the country?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:73", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.313276801946856, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, indeed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What time of year was that break?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was their summertime, in the wintertime up here. And, yeah, they had they had pretty much the same academic calendar we do for a big, long break in the summer. And I did a fair amount of travel. And that was one thing that kids were volunteers were in a position to do. I think maybe a month at a time I forgot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you travel out of the country to travel within the country?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I went to Brazil on one trip, uh, Uruguay on another. Uruguay and Argentina and Chile on another trip."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you did you travel by yourself or did you?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.459196446607617, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was their summertime, in the wintertime up here. And, yeah, they had they had pretty much the same academic calendar we do for a big, long break in the summer. And I did a fair amount of travel. And that was one thing that kids were volunteers were in a position to do. I think maybe a month at a time I forgot."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you travel out of the country to travel within the country?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I went to Brazil on one trip, uh, Uruguay on another. Uruguay and Argentina and Chile on another trip."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you did you travel by yourself or did you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I went with a friend of mine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another Peace Corps volunteer?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.732440496230685, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I went to Brazil on one trip, uh, Uruguay on another. Uruguay and Argentina and Chile on another trip."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you did you travel by yourself or did you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I went with a friend of mine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another Peace Corps volunteer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you find that your language training prepared you? Did I miss really?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 14.147156106922983, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I went with a friend of mine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Another Peace Corps volunteer?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you find that your language training prepared you? Did I miss really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Extremely well. There's there's only so much language you can learn in three months, obviously. But I think I don't know how I could have learned more than that. I did. And I got down there. My language was, uh, I think I you know, the Foreign Service has as a scale."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. One to five or something."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:81", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.607951229914425, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you find that your language training prepared you? Did I miss really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Extremely well. There's there's only so much language you can learn in three months, obviously. But I think I don't know how I could have learned more than that. I did. And I got down there. My language was, uh, I think I you know, the Foreign Service has as a scale."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. One to five or something."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I think I was a two plus when I went down there, which means, you know, you can you can get along and you can you are going to start."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. You can get you can get fed and you can get transportation."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.231056922127138, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Extremely well. There's there's only so much language you can learn in three months, obviously. But I think I don't know how I could have learned more than that. I did. And I got down there. My language was, uh, I think I you know, the Foreign Service has as a scale."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. One to five or something."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I think I was a two plus when I went down there, which means, you know, you can you can get along and you can you are going to start."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. You can get you can get fed and you can get transportation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah, yeah. And carry on a sort of rudimentary conversation. But that's about it. And I think I was about a two plus when I went down there and that that was enough to get me going. Uh, but there's nothing like actually living there and actually knowing the people and, uh, which I, which I did and thoroughly enjoyed. I was just an immensely fun, stimulating experience to do this. And, uh, and a large part of that was was learning the language. I mean, that's the best way to learn is to, you know, get some preparation and go down there live with the language spoken all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. Um, how did you like your assignment?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:85", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.034507691252376, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I think I was a two plus when I went down there, which means, you know, you can you can get along and you can you are going to start."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. You can get you can get fed and you can get transportation."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah, yeah. And carry on a sort of rudimentary conversation. But that's about it. And I think I was about a two plus when I went down there and that that was enough to get me going. Uh, but there's nothing like actually living there and actually knowing the people and, uh, which I, which I did and thoroughly enjoyed. I was just an immensely fun, stimulating experience to do this. And, uh, and a large part of that was was learning the language. I mean, that's the best way to learn is to, you know, get some preparation and go down there live with the language spoken all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. Um, how did you like your assignment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I loved it. Yes. Yes. It was just a wonderful experience. And was it how you felt about Jamaica? But but but yeah. It was just a terrific experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, was it a mixed. So these were high school age, what we would consider high school age kids. And was it a mixed sex school?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:87", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 20.038341879169305, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah, yeah. And carry on a sort of rudimentary conversation. But that's about it. And I think I was about a two plus when I went down there and that that was enough to get me going. Uh, but there's nothing like actually living there and actually knowing the people and, uh, which I, which I did and thoroughly enjoyed. I was just an immensely fun, stimulating experience to do this. And, uh, and a large part of that was was learning the language. I mean, that's the best way to learn is to, you know, get some preparation and go down there live with the language spoken all the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. Um, how did you like your assignment?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I loved it. Yes. Yes. It was just a wonderful experience. And was it how you felt about Jamaica? But but but yeah. It was just a terrific experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, was it a mixed. So these were high school age, what we would consider high school age kids. And was it a mixed sex school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was a high school, a coed school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So when did you finish up your tour?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:89", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 21.153713199077007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I loved it. Yes. Yes. It was just a wonderful experience. And was it how you felt about Jamaica? But but but yeah. It was just a terrific experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Um, was it a mixed. So these were high school age, what we would consider high school age kids. And was it a mixed sex school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was a high school, a coed school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So when did you finish up your tour?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I, I, well I left to go to law school and that was in the fall of sixty eight, so I forget exactly that. But shortly before that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the most difficult thing about your experience?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 17.948570221196675, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, it was a high school, a coed school."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK. So when did you finish up your tour?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I, I, well I left to go to law school and that was in the fall of sixty eight, so I forget exactly that. But shortly before that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What was the most difficult thing about your experience?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I have to preface that by saying that the apparently one group was uniquely fortunate, as opposed to I heard horror stories about groups that went to Africa. Uh. And and other places like where you get there and the car, the deck and sort of stacked against you from the get go. Well, the thing for Paraguay, one that the deck was stacked in favor of the volunteers from the get go.\n\nI think culturally, the Latin American culture is it's easier to get used to that, I think it would be. And from what I've heard about the culture in Africa, it's a lot of the African countries. Paraguay was a very pro- American country to begin with. So, you know, you didn't have to overcome anti-Americanism and you didn't if you want to run in the streets, people who weren't, you know, looking daggers at you because they didn't like Americans or whatever it is that you didn't have the as I understand it, in some countries there, there's kind of a presumption that when you meet somebody that that person is not going to like you because you're an American. And so you have to kind of you have a barrier. Just at the outset, there was none of that. The Paraguayans were more predisposed to like Americans. They're good people anyway. I mean, they, uh. If I don't know if you can generalize, but I will go out on a limb and say that there's something about a difficult history and in dealing with poverty and dealing with political repression, that probably, you know,"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I guess they still do."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:97", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.275130618925477, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it's turned itself into a democracy. Believe it or not. And that's one of the reasons, one of the or the reason why apparently one didn't go down there until 1966, which is five years after the Peace Corps started, was the government. It was the last remaining strong man military dictatorship in Latin America. And Sargent Shriver just did not want to send the Peace Corps because the government was so terrible. And there were horror stories that I heard about people that the ruling party didn't like being tortured to death. They would have their arms tied to one jeep and their legs tied to the Jeep. And the jeeps will drive off in different directions, you know, horrible stories like that. So they had that to deal with. They had to weigh in and a burst of romanticism or something in the 80s and 70s and taken on Argentina, Brazil and Bolivia and the Chacko war, I think it was called. I know that was something else, that the war, the triple alliance, little Paraguay taking on these three huge countries."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it was Brazil?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Brazil, good God, how can you take on Brazil?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bolivia and Argentina."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that doesn't seem like a very smart move geographically speaking!"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.639034021028307, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Brazil, good God, how can you take on Brazil?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who else was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bolivia and Argentina."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that doesn't seem like a very smart move geographically speaking!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a stupid move. The result was either men got killed off. They lost the war, of course. And when I was there, there were the ratio of women to men. Just because of this war was something like six or seven to one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, even a hundred years. Yes, 90 years later."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:101", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.154482245587007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bolivia and Argentina."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that doesn't seem like a very smart move geographically speaking!"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a stupid move. The result was either men got killed off. They lost the war, of course. And when I was there, there were the ratio of women to men. Just because of this war was something like six or seven to one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, even a hundred years. Yes, 90 years later."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, yes, yes. And so they had a very tough history and a generally you can find, the people who survived that kind of difficulty tend to be very, you know, very, very nice people, very sane people. The slightest movement gets, if you're not that way, you just get the difficult to get rid of. So."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think also they don't sweat the small stuff, you know, they don't get excited. Over things that we Americans get."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:103", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.838313606207784, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was a stupid move. The result was either men got killed off. They lost the war, of course. And when I was there, there were the ratio of women to men. Just because of this war was something like six or seven to one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, even a hundred years. Yes, 90 years later."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, yes, yes. And so they had a very tough history and a generally you can find, the people who survived that kind of difficulty tend to be very, you know, very, very nice people, very sane people. The slightest movement gets, if you're not that way, you just get the difficult to get rid of. So."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think also they don't sweat the small stuff, you know, they don't get excited. Over things that we Americans get."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think a lot of the reason that it was such a great place for American volunteers was was the Spanish culture. So family centered. I mean, the good things about the stability of this small town where I was, where, you know, a large part, just part of Latin culture, very kid oriented, you know, long term friendships are valued highly. Just kind of, you know, the good things about Spanish culture were all there and. And that made it very easy for an American public school volunteer to go on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How big was the town?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:105", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 18.70923734023087, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, yes, yes. And so they had a very tough history and a generally you can find, the people who survived that kind of difficulty tend to be very, you know, very, very nice people, very sane people. The slightest movement gets, if you're not that way, you just get the difficult to get rid of. So."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think also they don't sweat the small stuff, you know, they don't get excited. Over things that we Americans get."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think a lot of the reason that it was such a great place for American volunteers was was the Spanish culture. So family centered. I mean, the good things about the stability of this small town where I was, where, you know, a large part, just part of Latin culture, very kid oriented, you know, long term friendships are valued highly. Just kind of, you know, the good things about Spanish culture were all there and. And that made it very easy for an American public school volunteer to go on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How big was the town?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About 16,000 population."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really small town. So you left and went off to law school. Where did you go to law school?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:107", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 19.6769303780343, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think a lot of the reason that it was such a great place for American volunteers was was the Spanish culture. So family centered. I mean, the good things about the stability of this small town where I was, where, you know, a large part, just part of Latin culture, very kid oriented, you know, long term friendships are valued highly. Just kind of, you know, the good things about Spanish culture were all there and. And that made it very easy for an American public school volunteer to go on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How big was the town?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "About 16,000 population."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really small town. So you left and went off to law school. Where did you go to law school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Columbia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One of the things that they wanted us to ask is to evaluate your service in light of the three goals of the Peace Corps, which is one to provide technical assistance, two to help promote better understanding of Americans, and to help promote better understanding of other people by Americans."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.196589308927, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "About 16,000 population."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really small town. So you left and went off to law school. Where did you go to law school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Columbia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One of the things that they wanted us to ask is to evaluate your service in light of the three goals of the Peace Corps, which is one to provide technical assistance, two to help promote better understanding of Americans, and to help promote better understanding of other people by Americans."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I. I have to say, of course, you know, I'm biased and have an emotional investment in the desert. But I have to say that that everything I saw, including my own personal service, fulfilled those goals extremely well. Uh, I think as far as the first the first question, you know, how much technology transfer, so to speak, or how much technically, how much good did I do there? Uh, I think well, I was trained, as I say, I was trained to teach English as a second language. And and I kind of my stock explanation for why the Peace Corps ought to be doing that is in English as a second language is more valuable than to Paraguayans and say French as a second language would be to Americans. And that it's and this is more obvious now than it was, say, 20 years ago. But English is now the international language. And if you have language skills in English, you can you can market yourself to international companies or your job opportunities. Just sort of open up. Um, I, I did some other things, too. When I after I'd been there maybe eight months or a year, it became clear that they also needed math and science education. And it turned out it took me about a year to figure this out, the National University that since, you know, doesn't even have a math department, you're so extraordinary. They certainly don't have a physics department. And I happen to know something about both of those subjects. So so I started teacher training programs to, uh, to try to raise the level of math and science instruction."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did they have classes at the high school level and those in math?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.0309223, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sure. I mean, how could that not and what what better way to promote those goals and then go live with the people and try to help them? And they're the the locals are. Well, they had sort of varying reactions. The first reaction to and you know, again, I'm talking as the first Peace Corps volunteer to go to the Villarrica and the subsequent ones, I don't know, again, talk about their experience. But the reaction I got was, first of all, oh, my God, we're so flattered. Here's an American fresh out of college coming down here to devote two years to to help us out. You know, geez, I mean, it was it was sort of a flattering thing for them or from their point of view. And the second reaction was, OK, this can't be right. This guy is really CIA. And I got an awful lot of that. Uh, and actually, I have to say, one thing they wanted me to do before I left was to write up a memo for the file about what I had learned about sort of who's who in Villarrica and the relationships."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, the Peace Corps asked you this."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Interesting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I thought was very interesting after telling and telling those folks, no, I'm not CIA for two years. I didn't write the memo, but I you know, I imagine other volunteers got asked to write memos and some of them probably did. So maybe there is a CIA connection. And if there is, I don't know about it. And I would think that would be a terrible, terrible thing if there is a CIA connection, because if the Peace Corps is not credible, then it's nothing. And that's, you know, what else could it possibly do besides being down there credibly doing what it said it's going to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, and I just have to tell you that you're the first person who has told me that they were asked to do that."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.923247, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Interesting."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I thought was very interesting after telling and telling those folks, no, I'm not CIA for two years. I didn't write the memo, but I you know, I imagine other volunteers got asked to write memos and some of them probably did. So maybe there is a CIA connection. And if there is, I don't know about it. And I would think that would be a terrible, terrible thing if there is a CIA connection, because if the Peace Corps is not credible, then it's nothing. And that's, you know, what else could it possibly do besides being down there credibly doing what it said it's going to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, and I just have to tell you that you're the first person who has told me that they were asked to do that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Really?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. I just it may have been some it may have been an effort by the Peace Corps also to help, you’re group one."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:123", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 12, "return_to_go": 21.02583, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I thought was very interesting after telling and telling those folks, no, I'm not CIA for two years. I didn't write the memo, but I you know, I imagine other volunteers got asked to write memos and some of them probably did. So maybe there is a CIA connection. And if there is, I don't know about it. And I would think that would be a terrible, terrible thing if there is a CIA connection, because if the Peace Corps is not credible, then it's nothing. And that's, you know, what else could it possibly do besides being down there credibly doing what it said it's going to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, and I just have to tell you that you're the first person who has told me that they were asked to do that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Really?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. I just it may have been some it may have been an effort by the Peace Corps also to help, you’re group one."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And so that's what they said. Yeah. That's what they said. And I hope it was true. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I said I did want to assure you that not from any other Peace Corps in the 60s."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00184:131", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 10.3, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's the only program that works on a one on one individual level. So. Yeah, yeah, I totally believe that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Have you been back to Paraguay since you left?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I corresponded for a while with the folks at the hotel. In fact, I got, this is back in the day of a manual typewriter, like a manual typewriter to go out to law school with and had it modified. So it had an enye, an accent, and things like that instead of a few letters and they wrote back. This went on for a while and eventually petered out, but no way back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How has your experience affected your life after that service?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Uh. I don't know that it's you know, as opposed to how when my wife is gone, if I had not been in the past or so hypothetical, it's really hard to say. But it's you know, it's like I mean, you sort of make some assumptions here that that are sort of self evidently true. It's kind of like the 19th century. The Victorian idea of the ennobling effects of travel go to a foreign land and you see the sights and you learn something about the culture. And that's got to be good. And I think you can say the same thing about these. And so it's got to be good. You know exactly why I'm not sure I could teach."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything else you'd like to add?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00534:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 67.9702613329734, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Was he the commander? Was Donn [F.] Eisele on that one?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Don Eisele was in Apollo 7 with Walter Schirra."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Okay. Well, anyway. Oh, I know, [R. Walter] Cunningham was aboard, right? On [Apollo] 9."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Cunningham was on [Apollo] 7 also."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He was on 7."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Nine, I think, was McDivitt, [Russell L. “Rusty”] Schweikart, and [David R.] Scott. I know Rusty Schweikart was on it."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00534:45", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 35, "return_to_go": 68.95117826273781, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Anyway, the point is that that particular—that flight of Apollo 9, by chance, got us photographs which led to a concept and, later on, a forecasting technique that not only worked along the Texas Gulf Coast, we later applied it to the shrimp fishery in Venezuela, in the Gulf of Guinea off Africa, to the shrimp fishery along the Gulf of Kutch coast in northwest India, and to the Gulf of Carpenteria in Australia. They all had the same kind of wind/lagoonal situations, and it worked in all cases."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That really shows the value of—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We never would have done it if we didn't have the space stuff. Well, that made everybody happy. Didn't make the biologists happy, but made all the space guys happy.\\n\\n All right. Now where are we?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As Apollo was moving on in the sixties, NASA began hiring scientist astronauts."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes, that's true."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you involved at all with—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00534:100", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 53.54417292143362, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, they knew it was there. I mean, you know, historically they knew it was there, but, \"There's a picture of it. Let's go find it.\""}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All right. Where are we? Well, okay. So now we're ready to go to Shuttle, and that may be time to take a break and come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I'm in Houston next time or whatever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That would work."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00534:102", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 66.10391718695509, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All right. Where are we? Well, okay. So now we're ready to go to Shuttle, and that may be time to take a break and come back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I'm in Houston next time or whatever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That would work."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Whatever you guys say. I mean, you know. Summer's run out of tape."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, no, they haven't run out of tape. I just had that much left on that tape.\n\nSo it's that one tape. We do have more, so it's completely up to you. We can either go a little longer today, although it's getting—"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00534:104", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 73.44879687439455, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When I'm in Houston next time or whatever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That would work."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Whatever you guys say. I mean, you know. Summer's run out of tape."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, no, they haven't run out of tape. I just had that much left on that tape.\n\nSo it's that one tape. We do have more, so it's completely up to you. We can either go a little longer today, although it's getting—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Did you show her all the pictures that you talked about so far?\n\nNo, I don't have them all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Show us the pictures up through Apollo-Soyuz and then we can save all the Shuttle stuff for later, do that all at one time."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00534:106", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 81.60977430488283, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Whatever you guys say. I mean, you know. Summer's run out of tape."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, no, they haven't run out of tape. I just had that much left on that tape.\n\nSo it's that one tape. We do have more, so it's completely up to you. We can either go a little longer today, although it's getting—"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Did you show her all the pictures that you talked about so far?\n\nNo, I don't have them all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Show us the pictures up through Apollo-Soyuz and then we can save all the Shuttle stuff for later, do that all at one time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Do the Shuttle stuff all at one time. All right. Let's, therefore, do— [Tape recorder turned off.]"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you finish it [referring to the book\\n\\n Dragonfly\\n\\n ]?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00534:157", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 5.6592769, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that wiped me out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hopefully that will be the last time that any of us have to endure that, and we'll all have good memories of all the work that you've put into working with the astronauts."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I have good memories, you know. I flew in World War II and I lost people, friends then, you know. But, you know, the thing was, I don't think it was necessary. I don't think anybody thinks it was necessary. I mean, when you're flying in combat, that's different. People are shooting at you and you're shooting at them. I mean, that's kind of the name of the game. But in this case, if somebody wanted them to go and—"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hopefully we have learned from that and can move forward."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's like Jeannie [Stevenson] and I were down at the STS-88 launch last December. We'd stayed up all night and been to a couple of the crews' families parties. We got our hotel late, so our hotel was in Daytona Beach, you know. [Laughter] So we got back in time to get out there, to be driven out to the VIP stand.\n\nIt was a night launch.\n\nThey were to go off about four in the morning.\n\nThree-something.\n\nThree-fifty-nine or something like that.\n\nAnd when you start out at eleven o'clock driving from Daytona, you know, and we were up for a four o'clock launch."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow.\n\nBut it must have been beautiful to watch the beginning of a whole new era."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00534:171", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Whatever it was, was easily fixed, and they launched the next day. Pardon?\n\nPerfectly.\n\nPerfectly.\n\nThat was a perfect flight.\n\nAnd the next day we were up in Savannah, Georgia, because my old bomb group was holding a reunion and I hadn't seen those guys in 500 years, so I'd better see them."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's always nice to be able to get back together with old comrades."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Only knew one guy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Fifty years. But it's strange, you know, he was my waist gunner."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What do you know."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00534:181", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I knew he was going to be there, but I hadn't seen him since he was a little kid and I was a little kid. He came walking across the room and I knew him."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right away?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, that's enough stories."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Thank you for spending all this time with us and showing us pictures."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:3", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.947642780769829, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's what it is, basically. But it's fun. SIMPSON Great. Well, now let's think back. I want you to think back about, you know, when you were thinking about going into, the year before you, when you when you were thinking about going into the Peace Corps way back.\n\nWay, way back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Way, way back in 1962 or ‘61. So how did you happen to get interested in the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh well uh yes. Uh Wayne, who is now my husband, who was then my sort-of boyfriend, he and I were attending a meeting at which Sargent Shriver was speaking. Whoa, that did it. We happened to be sitting next to each other, just happened to be because we were in a group of youth listening to Sargent Shriver. And we looked at each other and yeah, we both said, hey, we want to do that. But it didn't happen right away, but it happened very soon after that, that we did make our application."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was that? When were you in that meeting?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, that was in March of ’62, March of ‘62, and we joined the program in July of ‘62. Isn’t that when our training started? Or June? The summer of ’62 our training started. It happened that fast, but there was no question."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you, what were you doing? Were you in college then or what were you doing at the time?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 5.497380867522033, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh well uh yes. Uh Wayne, who is now my husband, who was then my sort-of boyfriend, he and I were attending a meeting at which Sargent Shriver was speaking. Whoa, that did it. We happened to be sitting next to each other, just happened to be because we were in a group of youth listening to Sargent Shriver. And we looked at each other and yeah, we both said, hey, we want to do that. But it didn't happen right away, but it happened very soon after that, that we did make our application."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When was that? When were you in that meeting?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, that was in March of ’62, March of ‘62, and we joined the program in July of ‘62. Isn’t that when our training started? Or June? The summer of ’62 our training started. It happened that fast, but there was no question."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you, what were you doing? Were you in college then or what were you doing at the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Both of us were in college at separate universities actually. And so when, when I did join the Peace Corps I had only finished my junior year but I didn't want to wait. So and at that time, they accepted even high school graduates. They didn't require a college degree at that time in 1962."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, but where were you studying?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:7", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.774867630580036, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, that was in March of ’62, March of ‘62, and we joined the program in July of ‘62. Isn’t that when our training started? Or June? The summer of ’62 our training started. It happened that fast, but there was no question."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you, what were you doing? Were you in college then or what were you doing at the time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Both of us were in college at separate universities actually. And so when, when I did join the Peace Corps I had only finished my junior year but I didn't want to wait. So and at that time, they accepted even high school graduates. They didn't require a college degree at that time in 1962."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, but where were you studying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was studying at North Dakota State University, Fargo, North Dakota. Home economics education was my major."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, and was, uh, that were you living in in the Dakotas as well?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.0831862562000403, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Both of us were in college at separate universities actually. And so when, when I did join the Peace Corps I had only finished my junior year but I didn't want to wait. So and at that time, they accepted even high school graduates. They didn't require a college degree at that time in 1962."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, but where were you studying?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was studying at North Dakota State University, Fargo, North Dakota. Home economics education was my major."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, and was, uh, that were you living in in the Dakotas as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So then you accept, you join the Peace Corps. Then what happened? How did you get ready? What’d your family think?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.4257625068889337, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was studying at North Dakota State University, Fargo, North Dakota. Home economics education was my major."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, and was, uh, that were you living in in the Dakotas as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So then you accept, you join the Peace Corps. Then what happened? How did you get ready? What’d your family think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I have quite liberal or I had quite liberal minded parents. My dad was very proud of me, actually. But then when I wrote letters home during our training, I think they all began to wonder why we were rappelling down cliffs and swimming around in the ocean with our hands tied behind our back. What did that have to do with Peace Corps? And to tell you the truth, I think some of us were wondering the same thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that Outward Bound training."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8064027854321485, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So then you accept, you join the Peace Corps. Then what happened? How did you get ready? What’d your family think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I have quite liberal or I had quite liberal minded parents. My dad was very proud of me, actually. But then when I wrote letters home during our training, I think they all began to wonder why we were rappelling down cliffs and swimming around in the ocean with our hands tied behind our back. What did that have to do with Peace Corps? And to tell you the truth, I think some of us were wondering the same thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that Outward Bound training."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we survived it. And we were pretty proud of ourselves, weren’t we?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you have to do yourself to get ready to go in the Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.229336428257943, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I have quite liberal or I had quite liberal minded parents. My dad was very proud of me, actually. But then when I wrote letters home during our training, I think they all began to wonder why we were rappelling down cliffs and swimming around in the ocean with our hands tied behind our back. What did that have to do with Peace Corps? And to tell you the truth, I think some of us were wondering the same thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that Outward Bound training."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we survived it. And we were pretty proud of ourselves, weren’t we?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you have to do yourself to get ready to go in the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Throw a few things in my suitcase and go. After all the applications and taking the tests that were required for acceptance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you take your test?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 4.699262698064381, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But we survived it. And we were pretty proud of ourselves, weren’t we?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you have to do yourself to get ready to go in the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Throw a few things in my suitcase and go. After all the applications and taking the tests that were required for acceptance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you take your test?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Fargo, North Dakota."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's great. I took mine in Salt Lake City. Ok, so when you go out to training, let's just talk about your impression, what you thought about the training."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.888069664515978, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Throw a few things in my suitcase and go. After all the applications and taking the tests that were required for acceptance."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you take your test?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Fargo, North Dakota."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's great. I took mine in Salt Lake City. Ok, so when you go out to training, let's just talk about your impression, what you thought about the training."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we trained first of all in the Maricopa, what they called Indian community, didn't they use that phrase then? And I thought it was a great fit, you know, because we got to work with the women there. We got to visit different homes of the people living, the Maricopa people. And I think we had a great, um, we were trained with social workers. Wasn't that our official title?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Community development I think is what they called it. Which is one of those ambiguous terms that fits a lot of things."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:21", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.097855182795531, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Fargo, North Dakota."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that's great. I took mine in Salt Lake City. Ok, so when you go out to training, let's just talk about your impression, what you thought about the training."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we trained first of all in the Maricopa, what they called Indian community, didn't they use that phrase then? And I thought it was a great fit, you know, because we got to work with the women there. We got to visit different homes of the people living, the Maricopa people. And I think we had a great, um, we were trained with social workers. Wasn't that our official title?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Community development I think is what they called it. Which is one of those ambiguous terms that fits a lot of things."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But our instructor, our female instructor, I thought was very, very knowledgeable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was it that you worked with? Do you remember?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.3309502031061458, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we trained first of all in the Maricopa, what they called Indian community, didn't they use that phrase then? And I thought it was a great fit, you know, because we got to work with the women there. We got to visit different homes of the people living, the Maricopa people. And I think we had a great, um, we were trained with social workers. Wasn't that our official title?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Community development I think is what they called it. Which is one of those ambiguous terms that fits a lot of things."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But our instructor, our female instructor, I thought was very, very knowledgeable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was it that you worked with? Do you remember?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I don't remember her name. I think she was a public health nurse though, wasn’t she?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, we had one who was a public health nurse."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:25", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.58994467011794, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But our instructor, our female instructor, I thought was very, very knowledgeable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who was it that you worked with? Do you remember?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I don't remember her name. I think she was a public health nurse though, wasn’t she?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, we had one who was a public health nurse."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were doing the same thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And I know then they had a midwife that I was working with some, but she then when she left that group and subsequently went to a different place. Yeah, so what all did you do in training?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:27", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.877716300131044, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I don't remember her name. I think she was a public health nurse though, wasn’t she?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, we had one who was a public health nurse."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were doing the same thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And I know then they had a midwife that I was working with some, but she then when she left that group and subsequently went to a different place. Yeah, so what all did you do in training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We worked with the Maricopa women. In food preparation, we made food for our whole training group. But that wasn't the real point. The real point was to get us socializing with them, etcetera. And then we did go to different hospitals in the area and visit the homes in the area. It was just sort of getting us used to learning how to, maybe not interview, but keeping our getting our eyes and ears open to the situation around us, which might be different from how we were raised, how we grew up. So it wasn't a formal training. I mean, we didn't take any examinations or anything like that. It was just sort of an eye-opening experience I thought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you think of the language training and the various studies and all those?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:29", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 2.086351444590049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were doing the same thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And I know then they had a midwife that I was working with some, but she then when she left that group and subsequently went to a different place. Yeah, so what all did you do in training?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We worked with the Maricopa women. In food preparation, we made food for our whole training group. But that wasn't the real point. The real point was to get us socializing with them, etcetera. And then we did go to different hospitals in the area and visit the homes in the area. It was just sort of getting us used to learning how to, maybe not interview, but keeping our getting our eyes and ears open to the situation around us, which might be different from how we were raised, how we grew up. So it wasn't a formal training. I mean, we didn't take any examinations or anything like that. It was just sort of an eye-opening experience I thought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you think of the language training and the various studies and all those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right, the language training. Oh, my goodness. Uh, the philosophy then was to hear and repeat, which I didn't appreciate at all. I like to see things, you know, and we weren't really allowed to take notes, if I remember right, during language training. So I found that quite frustrating because it was hard for me to measure my progress and it was hard for me to go back and prepare for the next class. Because if you didn't remember something, well, that was the end of that. So, yeah, I thought language training. And then oftentimes our classes were like early in the morning when most of us weren’t completely awake even"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or late at night."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.20705716065561, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We worked with the Maricopa women. In food preparation, we made food for our whole training group. But that wasn't the real point. The real point was to get us socializing with them, etcetera. And then we did go to different hospitals in the area and visit the homes in the area. It was just sort of getting us used to learning how to, maybe not interview, but keeping our getting our eyes and ears open to the situation around us, which might be different from how we were raised, how we grew up. So it wasn't a formal training. I mean, we didn't take any examinations or anything like that. It was just sort of an eye-opening experience I thought."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you think of the language training and the various studies and all those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right, the language training. Oh, my goodness. Uh, the philosophy then was to hear and repeat, which I didn't appreciate at all. I like to see things, you know, and we weren't really allowed to take notes, if I remember right, during language training. So I found that quite frustrating because it was hard for me to measure my progress and it was hard for me to go back and prepare for the next class. Because if you didn't remember something, well, that was the end of that. So, yeah, I thought language training. And then oftentimes our classes were like early in the morning when most of us weren’t completely awake even"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or late at night."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Or late at night. We had horrendous hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you think of those hours, getting up at 3:00 in the morning so we could go out and run our mile before breakfast?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.3411746229506778, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right, the language training. Oh, my goodness. Uh, the philosophy then was to hear and repeat, which I didn't appreciate at all. I like to see things, you know, and we weren't really allowed to take notes, if I remember right, during language training. So I found that quite frustrating because it was hard for me to measure my progress and it was hard for me to go back and prepare for the next class. Because if you didn't remember something, well, that was the end of that. So, yeah, I thought language training. And then oftentimes our classes were like early in the morning when most of us weren’t completely awake even"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Or late at night."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Or late at night. We had horrendous hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you think of those hours, getting up at 3:00 in the morning so we could go out and run our mile before breakfast?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think they could identify the people who were very serious about being in the Peace Corps and could do that kind of schedule. I don't know how wise it was to exhaust ourselves like that, could be an interesting study. I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't think they do that anymore quite the same way."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.490194025500753, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Or late at night. We had horrendous hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you think of those hours, getting up at 3:00 in the morning so we could go out and run our mile before breakfast?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think they could identify the people who were very serious about being in the Peace Corps and could do that kind of schedule. I don't know how wise it was to exhaust ourselves like that, could be an interesting study. I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't think they do that anymore quite the same way."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they don't. And that's a good thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did you think of the overall training experience and the like the other volunteers that you met there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.6557711394452812, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think they could identify the people who were very serious about being in the Peace Corps and could do that kind of schedule. I don't know how wise it was to exhaust ourselves like that, could be an interesting study. I don't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't think they do that anymore quite the same way."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they don't. And that's a good thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did you think of the overall training experience and the like the other volunteers that you met there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, well, um, I thought it was good, although the one thing that bothered me a lot was we were asked to evaluate each other all the time. And I didn't feel that was my place to do that. I didn't like that part of it. But we certainly I think I learned I think I surprised myself by being able to do more physically than I thought I would ever be able to do. And I guess that's partly what it was all about too, you know, self-confidence. Once you know you can do something that you didn't think you can do, you tend to try a little harder and reach out a little further. I think maybe that was part of the whole process with the program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s the Outward Bound philosophy. And they were trying, I think, to incorporate that at least in Puerto Rico. So, OK, so we had, uh, what was your overall impression of the training period and the group? Did you feel, had you gotten to know a lot of the people or?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8397457104947568, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, they don't. And that's a good thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did you think of the overall training experience and the like the other volunteers that you met there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, well, um, I thought it was good, although the one thing that bothered me a lot was we were asked to evaluate each other all the time. And I didn't feel that was my place to do that. I didn't like that part of it. But we certainly I think I learned I think I surprised myself by being able to do more physically than I thought I would ever be able to do. And I guess that's partly what it was all about too, you know, self-confidence. Once you know you can do something that you didn't think you can do, you tend to try a little harder and reach out a little further. I think maybe that was part of the whole process with the program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s the Outward Bound philosophy. And they were trying, I think, to incorporate that at least in Puerto Rico. So, OK, so we had, uh, what was your overall impression of the training period and the group? Did you feel, had you gotten to know a lot of the people or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, our group was great. I enjoyed our group very much. And the whole experience. Except for the negatives that I've just stated. I think it was a great group. It was fun. I've been reading just recently reading the letters I'd written to my parents during that time and that sort of refreshed my memory and they were all positive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. OK, so now the next thing that we were doing was we went to Puerto Rico. Do you remember that trip?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.04416190054973, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, well, um, I thought it was good, although the one thing that bothered me a lot was we were asked to evaluate each other all the time. And I didn't feel that was my place to do that. I didn't like that part of it. But we certainly I think I learned I think I surprised myself by being able to do more physically than I thought I would ever be able to do. And I guess that's partly what it was all about too, you know, self-confidence. Once you know you can do something that you didn't think you can do, you tend to try a little harder and reach out a little further. I think maybe that was part of the whole process with the program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s the Outward Bound philosophy. And they were trying, I think, to incorporate that at least in Puerto Rico. So, OK, so we had, uh, what was your overall impression of the training period and the group? Did you feel, had you gotten to know a lot of the people or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, our group was great. I enjoyed our group very much. And the whole experience. Except for the negatives that I've just stated. I think it was a great group. It was fun. I've been reading just recently reading the letters I'd written to my parents during that time and that sort of refreshed my memory and they were all positive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. OK, so now the next thing that we were doing was we went to Puerto Rico. Do you remember that trip?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you talk a little bit about it, about the trip and then getting to Camp Crozier?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:43", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.2712910006108107, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, our group was great. I enjoyed our group very much. And the whole experience. Except for the negatives that I've just stated. I think it was a great group. It was fun. I've been reading just recently reading the letters I'd written to my parents during that time and that sort of refreshed my memory and they were all positive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. OK, so now the next thing that we were doing was we went to Puerto Rico. Do you remember that trip?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you talk a little bit about it, about the trip and then getting to Camp Crozier?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, well, I don't remember so much. I remember being in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Had you flown before?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:45", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.523656667345345, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you talk a little bit about it, about the trip and then getting to Camp Crozier?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, well, I don't remember so much. I remember being in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Had you flown before?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I had flown before. So that part doesn't stick in my mind. I remember being in the bus and getting car sick because we were jammed. So many people in a small, well, it wasn't a bus, mini bus or even many of them. And then seeing the place where we were going to live at Camp Crozier. That was my first experience with geckos that I considered to be lizards who I thought sure would crawl into my bed when I wasn’t looking but."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You weren’t one of the ones that found the tarantulas?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 2.80406296371705, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, well, I don't remember so much. I remember being in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Had you flown before?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I had flown before. So that part doesn't stick in my mind. I remember being in the bus and getting car sick because we were jammed. So many people in a small, well, it wasn't a bus, mini bus or even many of them. And then seeing the place where we were going to live at Camp Crozier. That was my first experience with geckos that I considered to be lizards who I thought sure would crawl into my bed when I wasn’t looking but."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You weren’t one of the ones that found the tarantulas?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I never did find the tarantulas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you think of tent city?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.1156255152411667, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I had flown before. So that part doesn't stick in my mind. I remember being in the bus and getting car sick because we were jammed. So many people in a small, well, it wasn't a bus, mini bus or even many of them. And then seeing the place where we were going to live at Camp Crozier. That was my first experience with geckos that I considered to be lizards who I thought sure would crawl into my bed when I wasn’t looking but."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You weren’t one of the ones that found the tarantulas?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I never did find the tarantulas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you think of tent city?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, well, it was a good thing because it was raining so much of the time. In my letters that I'd written to my parents that I just read, I was talking about the rain and how we would wash our clothes by hand, but they would never get dry on the clothesline because it was raining so much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which was a big change from the Arizona desert."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.461806128045741, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I never did find the tarantulas."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you think of tent city?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, well, it was a good thing because it was raining so much of the time. In my letters that I'd written to my parents that I just read, I was talking about the rain and how we would wash our clothes by hand, but they would never get dry on the clothesline because it was raining so much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which was a big change from the Arizona desert."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did you think of our training in Puerto Rico?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.8464512533841564, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, well, it was a good thing because it was raining so much of the time. In my letters that I'd written to my parents that I just read, I was talking about the rain and how we would wash our clothes by hand, but they would never get dry on the clothesline because it was raining so much."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Which was a big change from the Arizona desert."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did you think of our training in Puerto Rico?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I thought that was a little over the top. I don't think we really needed to rappel down a cliff to prove ourselves, but it did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I never thought I'd ever rappel down a dam."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.273834725982396, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did you think of our training in Puerto Rico?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I thought that was a little over the top. I don't think we really needed to rappel down a cliff to prove ourselves, but it did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I never thought I'd ever rappel down a dam."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me neither. And the jumping into the water with your hands tied behind your back. That's crazy, you know, but we did it. And we were proud of ourselves afterwards."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think that's what they were kind of going for, you’re right. So what do you remember most about Puerto Rico?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.74870525109155, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I thought that was a little over the top. I don't think we really needed to rappel down a cliff to prove ourselves, but it did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I never thought I'd ever rappel down a dam."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me neither. And the jumping into the water with your hands tied behind your back. That's crazy, you know, but we did it. And we were proud of ourselves afterwards."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think that's what they were kind of going for, you’re right. So what do you remember most about Puerto Rico?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I remember most of the treks we were on, the small group treks where we had to follow a map and just live off the land, so to speak, and hopefully arrive at the right place at the right time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you in a group when we did that 40-mile hike? Were you in a group with Wayne or were with you with my group?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.276339167879501, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Me neither. And the jumping into the water with your hands tied behind your back. That's crazy, you know, but we did it. And we were proud of ourselves afterwards."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think that's what they were kind of going for, you’re right. So what do you remember most about Puerto Rico?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I remember most of the treks we were on, the small group treks where we had to follow a map and just live off the land, so to speak, and hopefully arrive at the right place at the right time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you in a group when we did that 40-mile hike? Were you in a group with Wayne or were with you with my group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was with the girls."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, because there was a bunch of women."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.751487964310556, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, I remember most of the treks we were on, the small group treks where we had to follow a map and just live off the land, so to speak, and hopefully arrive at the right place at the right time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were you in a group when we did that 40-mile hike? Were you in a group with Wayne or were with you with my group?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was with the girls."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, because there was a bunch of women."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I remember two people. Rose. Someone got very bad blisters and they had to turn back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that was Rose. I was in that group."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:63", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.279431071456173, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was with the girls."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, because there was a bunch of women."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I remember two people. Rose. Someone got very bad blisters and they had to turn back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that was Rose. I was in that group."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were females from another training group in our small group too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We must have been in a different one then. The one I was in, well, we didn’t do much living off the land."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:65", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.6438123016179698, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I remember two people. Rose. Someone got very bad blisters and they had to turn back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that was Rose. I was in that group."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were females from another training group in our small group too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We must have been in a different one then. The one I was in, well, we didn’t do much living off the land."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we didn’t. In fact, two nights, first one night a family invited us into their house or maybe we asked or begged to come into their house. I don't know. But after one of us, I was carrying a machete, which we were supposed to carry. And I remember the man said, well, if you leave your machetes, if we can lock up your machete, your group can stay in our house. And that's what happened. He took my machete and locked it in the room and then gave us all a room. I don't know how many of us there were at that time. There was one hammock and the rest of us sort of found places on the floor. But at least we were out of the rain. That was quite an experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We must have been in different groups because I don't remember anybody ever having us stay. They invited us for coffee. And, you know, there was one guy that tried to marry all of us off."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.048680335131078, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were females from another training group in our small group too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We must have been in a different one then. The one I was in, well, we didn’t do much living off the land."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we didn’t. In fact, two nights, first one night a family invited us into their house or maybe we asked or begged to come into their house. I don't know. But after one of us, I was carrying a machete, which we were supposed to carry. And I remember the man said, well, if you leave your machetes, if we can lock up your machete, your group can stay in our house. And that's what happened. He took my machete and locked it in the room and then gave us all a room. I don't know how many of us there were at that time. There was one hammock and the rest of us sort of found places on the floor. But at least we were out of the rain. That was quite an experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We must have been in different groups because I don't remember anybody ever having us stay. They invited us for coffee. And, you know, there was one guy that tried to marry all of us off."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't remember that. We must have been in a separate group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, OK. So whenever we got finished with the training and Camp Crozier, then we went to Mayaguez. Do you remember that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.498533705701197, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No we didn’t. In fact, two nights, first one night a family invited us into their house or maybe we asked or begged to come into their house. I don't know. But after one of us, I was carrying a machete, which we were supposed to carry. And I remember the man said, well, if you leave your machetes, if we can lock up your machete, your group can stay in our house. And that's what happened. He took my machete and locked it in the room and then gave us all a room. I don't know how many of us there were at that time. There was one hammock and the rest of us sort of found places on the floor. But at least we were out of the rain. That was quite an experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We must have been in different groups because I don't remember anybody ever having us stay. They invited us for coffee. And, you know, there was one guy that tried to marry all of us off."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't remember that. We must have been in a separate group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, OK. So whenever we got finished with the training and Camp Crozier, then we went to Mayaguez. Do you remember that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you think about that? They said we needed more language training."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.998370784112441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't remember that. We must have been in a separate group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, OK. So whenever we got finished with the training and Camp Crozier, then we went to Mayaguez. Do you remember that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you think about that? They said we needed more language training."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I guess our group wasn't doing too well with language as a whole."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I often wondered if that was the real reason. Who knew all the different issues going on."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:73", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 5.55374531568049, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you think about that? They said we needed more language training."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I guess our group wasn't doing too well with language as a whole."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I often wondered if that was the real reason. Who knew all the different issues going on."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember we stayed with families."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, you and Wayne stayed together."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.170828128533877, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. I guess our group wasn't doing too well with language as a whole."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, I often wondered if that was the real reason. Who knew all the different issues going on."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember we stayed with families."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, you and Wayne stayed together."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, no, I stayed alone. I stayed alone with a family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, Rose and I were together with one family."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.856475698370974, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I remember we stayed with families."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, you and Wayne stayed together."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, no, I stayed alone. I stayed alone with a family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, Rose and I were together with one family."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And yeah, Wayne and I weren't married yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh that’s right."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.507195220412193, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, no, I stayed alone. I stayed alone with a family."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, Rose and I were together with one family."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And yeah, Wayne and I weren't married yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh that’s right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And yeah. And so that was an experience. It was sort of a winding down time, I thought, and a good time to concentrate on Spanish because I for one needed that. And then we did some other social visiting social services that I don't remember much about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I went, I decided I'd had enough of Spanish as I already had studied it. So I tried hanging around the hospital to learn some medical Spanish. But did you go to the beach? Remember we spent a lot of time down at the beach."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:81", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.230216911569103, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And yeah, Wayne and I weren't married yet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh that’s right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And yeah. And so that was an experience. It was sort of a winding down time, I thought, and a good time to concentrate on Spanish because I for one needed that. And then we did some other social visiting social services that I don't remember much about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I went, I decided I'd had enough of Spanish as I already had studied it. So I tried hanging around the hospital to learn some medical Spanish. But did you go to the beach? Remember we spent a lot of time down at the beach."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that's true. That's true. I remember that now. Were we just playing around at that time? I guess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well we had our classes and whatever and then you know, there were free time."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.033574346187892, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And yeah. And so that was an experience. It was sort of a winding down time, I thought, and a good time to concentrate on Spanish because I for one needed that. And then we did some other social visiting social services that I don't remember much about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I went, I decided I'd had enough of Spanish as I already had studied it. So I tried hanging around the hospital to learn some medical Spanish. But did you go to the beach? Remember we spent a lot of time down at the beach."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that's true. That's true. I remember that now. Were we just playing around at that time? I guess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well we had our classes and whatever and then you know, there were free time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so then we went home and got ready to go to Bolivia. What happened when you went back home?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:85", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 8.926193717986546, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, that's true. That's true. I remember that now. Were we just playing around at that time? I guess."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well we had our classes and whatever and then you know, there were free time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so then we went home and got ready to go to Bolivia. What happened when you went back home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, did you get married at home?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:89", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.5508564419587, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, did you get married at home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the time, well, from the time, the last day we were at the Maricopa in Arizona. Remember, they were cutting. They were cutting people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And with that much previous notice. So until the last day of being in Arizona, we weren't sure who was going to continue on and who wasn't. So we didn't. I had my mother had planned our wedding, but didn't dare send out the invitations until I said go. So when Wayne and I both were approved to go on to Puerto Rico or to yeah, Puerto Rico, they did that too. So it was after the Camp Crozier experience where we felt pretty confident. I mean, we had to make it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that's when they cut us off, after that Camp Crozier."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.500951602176334, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All the time, well, from the time, the last day we were at the Maricopa in Arizona. Remember, they were cutting. They were cutting people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And with that much previous notice. So until the last day of being in Arizona, we weren't sure who was going to continue on and who wasn't. So we didn't. I had my mother had planned our wedding, but didn't dare send out the invitations until I said go. So when Wayne and I both were approved to go on to Puerto Rico or to yeah, Puerto Rico, they did that too. So it was after the Camp Crozier experience where we felt pretty confident. I mean, we had to make it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that's when they cut us off, after that Camp Crozier."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Right. Yeah. You know, people who happen to scream when they were dangling at the end of a rope didn't fare too well. Anyway, we went home, got our marriage license, had two wedding showers, got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow, you were pretty busy."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:93", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.445501780195928, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And with that much previous notice. So until the last day of being in Arizona, we weren't sure who was going to continue on and who wasn't. So we didn't. I had my mother had planned our wedding, but didn't dare send out the invitations until I said go. So when Wayne and I both were approved to go on to Puerto Rico or to yeah, Puerto Rico, they did that too. So it was after the Camp Crozier experience where we felt pretty confident. I mean, we had to make it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So that's when they cut us off, after that Camp Crozier."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Right. Yeah. You know, people who happen to scream when they were dangling at the end of a rope didn't fare too well. Anyway, we went home, got our marriage license, had two wedding showers, got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow, you were pretty busy."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then we came back to Miami airport on schedule."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what happened then, from your point of view?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:95", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.383890866884364, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Right. Yeah. You know, people who happen to scream when they were dangling at the end of a rope didn't fare too well. Anyway, we went home, got our marriage license, had two wedding showers, got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow, you were pretty busy."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then we came back to Miami airport on schedule."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what happened then, from your point of view?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my point of view. Well, three of us who lived in North Dakota traveled together and we were going to meet the rest of our group at the airport in Miami. We thought we were going to get on a plane. And then we were told that there's been a change of plans and we were told that we should they had made reservations at a hotel right at the airport for all of us, who were told to go to our rooms and turn on the TV. And that's when President Kennedy appeared on TV and told us we might be in a bit of trouble, but I don't think we knew. I guess nobody knew what that was all about at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was the Cuban Missile Crisis."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:97", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.426545407649293, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then we came back to Miami airport on schedule."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what happened then, from your point of view?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my point of view. Well, three of us who lived in North Dakota traveled together and we were going to meet the rest of our group at the airport in Miami. We thought we were going to get on a plane. And then we were told that there's been a change of plans and we were told that we should they had made reservations at a hotel right at the airport for all of us, who were told to go to our rooms and turn on the TV. And that's when President Kennedy appeared on TV and told us we might be in a bit of trouble, but I don't think we knew. I guess nobody knew what that was all about at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was the Cuban Missile Crisis."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was but we didn't have a name for it at that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, we didn't have a name for it. But everybody was leaving Miami as fast as they could, except us."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.473939341832548, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "From my point of view. Well, three of us who lived in North Dakota traveled together and we were going to meet the rest of our group at the airport in Miami. We thought we were going to get on a plane. And then we were told that there's been a change of plans and we were told that we should they had made reservations at a hotel right at the airport for all of us, who were told to go to our rooms and turn on the TV. And that's when President Kennedy appeared on TV and told us we might be in a bit of trouble, but I don't think we knew. I guess nobody knew what that was all about at the time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was the Cuban Missile Crisis."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was but we didn't have a name for it at that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, we didn't have a name for it. But everybody was leaving Miami as fast as they could, except us."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Except us. It's very interesting because that's what I was remembering. And then two days ago, I was reading the letter that I'd written to my parents about that time. And I said, it said in my letter, I had written in my letter, that we were told that some of the teachers in Bolivia were striking and that the Peace Corps thought it was better that we not arrive at that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, but that was at the same time as the miners that were striking."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:101", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.637710379813942, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was but we didn't have a name for it at that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, we didn't have a name for it. But everybody was leaving Miami as fast as they could, except us."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Except us. It's very interesting because that's what I was remembering. And then two days ago, I was reading the letter that I'd written to my parents about that time. And I said, it said in my letter, I had written in my letter, that we were told that some of the teachers in Bolivia were striking and that the Peace Corps thought it was better that we not arrive at that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, but that was at the same time as the miners that were striking."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aha. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The miners. But that was like two things, two different things. I guess it was enough that they couldn't send us. But it took a while to get that straight."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:103", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 12.93078931090438, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Except us. It's very interesting because that's what I was remembering. And then two days ago, I was reading the letter that I'd written to my parents about that time. And I said, it said in my letter, I had written in my letter, that we were told that some of the teachers in Bolivia were striking and that the Peace Corps thought it was better that we not arrive at that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, but that was at the same time as the miners that were striking."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aha. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The miners. But that was like two things, two different things. I guess it was enough that they couldn't send us. But it took a while to get that straight."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Yes. Well because really nobody knew what was happening right at that moment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I always sort of felt that our group was kind of like guinea pigs because we had probably the longest training of any group ever, because of all those things that happened."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:105", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.034210345449312, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Aha. OK."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The miners. But that was like two things, two different things. I guess it was enough that they couldn't send us. But it took a while to get that straight."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Yes. Well because really nobody knew what was happening right at that moment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I always sort of felt that our group was kind of like guinea pigs because we had probably the longest training of any group ever, because of all those things that happened."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So then we were put in a nice luxury hotel for a couple of days because that's my letter said it was the cheapest place for them because it was off season. It was October."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And because people were leaving Miami in droves. That’s the reason hotels were dying."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:107", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 12.260233717165901, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Yes. Well because really nobody knew what was happening right at that moment."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I always sort of felt that our group was kind of like guinea pigs because we had probably the longest training of any group ever, because of all those things that happened."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So then we were put in a nice luxury hotel for a couple of days because that's my letter said it was the cheapest place for them because it was off season. It was October."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And because people were leaving Miami in droves. That’s the reason hotels were dying."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But in my letter to my parents, I never mentioned President Kennedy’s speech. I wonder. Maybe I was trying to, I was probably thinking my parents didn't know and I didn't want you to worry about me when I was there. Anyway."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then then we went."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.178037463517668, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So then we were put in a nice luxury hotel for a couple of days because that's my letter said it was the cheapest place for them because it was off season. It was October."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And because people were leaving Miami in droves. That’s the reason hotels were dying."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But in my letter to my parents, I never mentioned President Kennedy’s speech. I wonder. Maybe I was trying to, I was probably thinking my parents didn't know and I didn't want you to worry about me when I was there. Anyway."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then then we went."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then they sent our entire group up to Vermont, the Experiment for International Living building. In Brattleboro, Vermont, in October, the most beautiful town in Vermont. And this was our honeymoon. I mean, this was three days after our wedding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You lucked out."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:111", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.19781940390852, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But in my letter to my parents, I never mentioned President Kennedy’s speech. I wonder. Maybe I was trying to, I was probably thinking my parents didn't know and I didn't want you to worry about me when I was there. Anyway."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then then we went."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then they sent our entire group up to Vermont, the Experiment for International Living building. In Brattleboro, Vermont, in October, the most beautiful town in Vermont. And this was our honeymoon. I mean, this was three days after our wedding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You lucked out."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We lucked out. Not much to do there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, they did have us practice our Spanish some more. I remember going walking and picking apples."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:113", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 11.330910448787245, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Then they sent our entire group up to Vermont, the Experiment for International Living building. In Brattleboro, Vermont, in October, the most beautiful town in Vermont. And this was our honeymoon. I mean, this was three days after our wedding."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You lucked out."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We lucked out. Not much to do there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, they did have us practice our Spanish some more. I remember going walking and picking apples."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I know, it was beautiful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After Arizona and Puerto Rico, it was nice."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:115", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.478789387541383, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We lucked out. Not much to do there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, they did have us practice our Spanish some more. I remember going walking and picking apples."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I know, it was beautiful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After Arizona and Puerto Rico, it was nice."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And it was the first time we had rested, I think, for many months, actually."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We all went, you remember when they sent us into Boston?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:117", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.754210430601535, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, I know, it was beautiful."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "After Arizona and Puerto Rico, it was nice."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And it was the first time we had rested, I think, for many months, actually."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We all went, you remember when they sent us into Boston?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because a new group was coming in for training and they didn't want any of us older, you know."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.171344922890595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And it was the first time we had rested, I think, for many months, actually."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We all went, you remember when they sent us into Boston?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because a new group was coming in for training and they didn't want any of us older, you know."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Contaminated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. They didn't want us to influence anyone."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.745938803211773, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because a new group was coming in for training and they didn't want any of us older, you know."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Contaminated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. They didn't want us to influence anyone."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cynical people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So we accepted the trip to Boston. I remember some people saying, well, I'm not going to go to Boston, they just want to get rid of us. But I remember thinking, well, I have never been to Boston."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:123", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 17.495487559124193, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Contaminated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. They didn't want us to influence anyone."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cynical people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So we accepted the trip to Boston. I remember some people saying, well, I'm not going to go to Boston, they just want to get rid of us. But I remember thinking, well, I have never been to Boston."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Why not?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so when we finally got to Bolivia. What was your impression of Bolivia when we got there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:125", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 16.10609728791577, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Cynical people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. So we accepted the trip to Boston. I remember some people saying, well, I'm not going to go to Boston, they just want to get rid of us. But I remember thinking, well, I have never been to Boston."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Why not?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so when we finally got to Bolivia. What was your impression of Bolivia when we got there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, luckily we had been told quite a bit about Bolivia. So we landed in the La Paz airport, I remember that. And of course, I was looking in every direction and people had warned us that we might have altitude sickness and all that. But, uh, yeah, it was just very, very interesting to see actually see what we've been told about for all these months of training. So I think we were. It was a good experience for us all. We weren't too rushed. They gave us time to sort of settle into a hotel. I think we were only there like a week."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't know if it was that long even."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:127", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.56233031990641, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Why not?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, so when we finally got to Bolivia. What was your impression of Bolivia when we got there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, luckily we had been told quite a bit about Bolivia. So we landed in the La Paz airport, I remember that. And of course, I was looking in every direction and people had warned us that we might have altitude sickness and all that. But, uh, yeah, it was just very, very interesting to see actually see what we've been told about for all these months of training. So I think we were. It was a good experience for us all. We weren't too rushed. They gave us time to sort of settle into a hotel. I think we were only there like a week."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't know if it was that long even."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we went we met the president. We met the American ambassador. So, yeah, that was a good time. Oh, but the horrendous time came next. Driving. Driving from La Paz to Cochabamba on these narrow, narrow, winding roads with a drop off on one side and our little Willis jeep. Oh my. Caution was thrown to the wind there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I nearly had a heart attack."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:129", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 16.180367022118233, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, luckily we had been told quite a bit about Bolivia. So we landed in the La Paz airport, I remember that. And of course, I was looking in every direction and people had warned us that we might have altitude sickness and all that. But, uh, yeah, it was just very, very interesting to see actually see what we've been told about for all these months of training. So I think we were. It was a good experience for us all. We weren't too rushed. They gave us time to sort of settle into a hotel. I think we were only there like a week."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't know if it was that long even."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we went we met the president. We met the American ambassador. So, yeah, that was a good time. Oh, but the horrendous time came next. Driving. Driving from La Paz to Cochabamba on these narrow, narrow, winding roads with a drop off on one side and our little Willis jeep. Oh my. Caution was thrown to the wind there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I nearly had a heart attack."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, me too. And it was actually our driver, I mean, our good doctor leading the pack. And he was driving way too fast, in my estimation. Doesn't hear me. You know, you can go online and you can get a list the most dangerous roads in the world. And at least three of them are in Bolivia. And one of them is that road between La Paz and Cochabamba. It wasn’t paved. And if you met any vehicle, and there were big busses and big trucks on that road, one of the vehicles would have to wait to the side and people would get out and direct each other. And we passed each other, oh. That was the scariest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I remember that nobody wanted to wear seatbelts because of the drop-off. Because, you know, if it went over they wanted to be thrown out. They didn’t want to go all the way down. So then we went on to Cochabamba. And what did you?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:131", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 15.755963357909147, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, we went we met the president. We met the American ambassador. So, yeah, that was a good time. Oh, but the horrendous time came next. Driving. Driving from La Paz to Cochabamba on these narrow, narrow, winding roads with a drop off on one side and our little Willis jeep. Oh my. Caution was thrown to the wind there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I nearly had a heart attack."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, me too. And it was actually our driver, I mean, our good doctor leading the pack. And he was driving way too fast, in my estimation. Doesn't hear me. You know, you can go online and you can get a list the most dangerous roads in the world. And at least three of them are in Bolivia. And one of them is that road between La Paz and Cochabamba. It wasn’t paved. And if you met any vehicle, and there were big busses and big trucks on that road, one of the vehicles would have to wait to the side and people would get out and direct each other. And we passed each other, oh. That was the scariest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I remember that nobody wanted to wear seatbelts because of the drop-off. Because, you know, if it went over they wanted to be thrown out. They didn’t want to go all the way down. So then we went on to Cochabamba. And what did you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well that was a very beautiful place. And I was thinking, oh, I'd like to stay here I think, because I knew about the tropical Santa Cruz that was coming up. And Cochabamba seemed to be so livable. And we had more training there, I think, or introduction to the area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We had Thanksgiving dinner. Yeah, the American community."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:133", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 14.173292619899051, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, me too. And it was actually our driver, I mean, our good doctor leading the pack. And he was driving way too fast, in my estimation. Doesn't hear me. You know, you can go online and you can get a list the most dangerous roads in the world. And at least three of them are in Bolivia. And one of them is that road between La Paz and Cochabamba. It wasn’t paved. And if you met any vehicle, and there were big busses and big trucks on that road, one of the vehicles would have to wait to the side and people would get out and direct each other. And we passed each other, oh. That was the scariest."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I remember that nobody wanted to wear seatbelts because of the drop-off. Because, you know, if it went over they wanted to be thrown out. They didn’t want to go all the way down. So then we went on to Cochabamba. And what did you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well that was a very beautiful place. And I was thinking, oh, I'd like to stay here I think, because I knew about the tropical Santa Cruz that was coming up. And Cochabamba seemed to be so livable. And we had more training there, I think, or introduction to the area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We had Thanksgiving dinner. Yeah, the American community."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, I had forgotten that for. It was Thanksgiving time already. ’62."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So then do you remember going to Santa Cruz?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:135", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.748102910998945, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well that was a very beautiful place. And I was thinking, oh, I'd like to stay here I think, because I knew about the tropical Santa Cruz that was coming up. And Cochabamba seemed to be so livable. And we had more training there, I think, or introduction to the area."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We had Thanksgiving dinner. Yeah, the American community."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, I had forgotten that for. It was Thanksgiving time already. ’62."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So then do you remember going to Santa Cruz?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. That was another crazy drive. That time I was a little hesitant about getting in the vehicle. I thought, oh, can I be lucky enough to survive two of these trips? And in the middle of it all, I swore that I would never, ever leave Santa Cruz except by air."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, did you ever leave it?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:137", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 17.49789212333216, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "OK, I had forgotten that for. It was Thanksgiving time already. ’62."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So then do you remember going to Santa Cruz?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. That was another crazy drive. That time I was a little hesitant about getting in the vehicle. I thought, oh, can I be lucky enough to survive two of these trips? And in the middle of it all, I swore that I would never, ever leave Santa Cruz except by air."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, did you ever leave it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, once I took a bus to Cochabamba. That was even worse."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. You know, a lot of those folks I remembered, were not used to riding in busses and cars, so they’d be sick. And so, you know, the windows were open, but they’d be tossing up their cookies in front of you. So tell me about your, what you were doing in the Santa Cruz area, where you went and what you did."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:139", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.775435692591289, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. That was another crazy drive. That time I was a little hesitant about getting in the vehicle. I thought, oh, can I be lucky enough to survive two of these trips? And in the middle of it all, I swore that I would never, ever leave Santa Cruz except by air."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, did you ever leave it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, once I took a bus to Cochabamba. That was even worse."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. You know, a lot of those folks I remembered, were not used to riding in busses and cars, so they’d be sick. And so, you know, the windows were open, but they’d be tossing up their cookies in front of you. So tell me about your, what you were doing in the Santa Cruz area, where you went and what you did."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok, Wayne and I and five other volunteers were assigned to Portachuelo, which was, I guess, east of Santa Cruz, further inland even. I was lucky because my background was in home economics education and there was a spot at the Agricultural Extension Service, which is very similar to what we have here in the U.S. There was a home economics extension person there, so she became my coworker. She was a very young woman. She didn't really have any training in home economics, but she was Bolivian and she was very outspoken. And together we made a pretty good team because I had the technical part of it and she had the social part of it. And together. Plus, I had the driver's license and I could take Peace Corps jeep wherever we should or probably shouldn't have taken it. So together, she and I organized homemakers clubs and Cuatro- Ese, which is equivalent to our 4-H, in the entire district. So we went out to villages and organized these groups and then subsequently we went back and had classes and meetings with these groups. So I was lucky to have sort of a definite assignment like that which fit my background."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that is yeah, because in that sense of community development, people are sort of trying to develop their job."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:141", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 14.194928547323654, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, once I took a bus to Cochabamba. That was even worse."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Yeah. You know, a lot of those folks I remembered, were not used to riding in busses and cars, so they’d be sick. And so, you know, the windows were open, but they’d be tossing up their cookies in front of you. So tell me about your, what you were doing in the Santa Cruz area, where you went and what you did."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok, Wayne and I and five other volunteers were assigned to Portachuelo, which was, I guess, east of Santa Cruz, further inland even. I was lucky because my background was in home economics education and there was a spot at the Agricultural Extension Service, which is very similar to what we have here in the U.S. There was a home economics extension person there, so she became my coworker. She was a very young woman. She didn't really have any training in home economics, but she was Bolivian and she was very outspoken. And together we made a pretty good team because I had the technical part of it and she had the social part of it. And together. Plus, I had the driver's license and I could take Peace Corps jeep wherever we should or probably shouldn't have taken it. So together, she and I organized homemakers clubs and Cuatro- Ese, which is equivalent to our 4-H, in the entire district. So we went out to villages and organized these groups and then subsequently we went back and had classes and meetings with these groups. So I was lucky to have sort of a definite assignment like that which fit my background."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that is yeah, because in that sense of community development, people are sort of trying to develop their job."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The rest of the group in Portachuelo were assigned to the rice cooperative there in various capacities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who else was there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:143", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.21658727480406, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Ok, Wayne and I and five other volunteers were assigned to Portachuelo, which was, I guess, east of Santa Cruz, further inland even. I was lucky because my background was in home economics education and there was a spot at the Agricultural Extension Service, which is very similar to what we have here in the U.S. There was a home economics extension person there, so she became my coworker. She was a very young woman. She didn't really have any training in home economics, but she was Bolivian and she was very outspoken. And together we made a pretty good team because I had the technical part of it and she had the social part of it. And together. Plus, I had the driver's license and I could take Peace Corps jeep wherever we should or probably shouldn't have taken it. So together, she and I organized homemakers clubs and Cuatro- Ese, which is equivalent to our 4-H, in the entire district. So we went out to villages and organized these groups and then subsequently we went back and had classes and meetings with these groups. So I was lucky to have sort of a definite assignment like that which fit my background."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that is yeah, because in that sense of community development, people are sort of trying to develop their job."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The rest of the group in Portachuelo were assigned to the rice cooperative there in various capacities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who else was there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our group, it was Tom Woodward and Chuck Glass and Art Andres and Ralph Clarke and Audrey Dorf and Wayne and I. And at first we all lived in the same house, which was the top floor of a very large house and the owner of the house served us our meals together, etcetera. It wasn't the best setup in the world, but it started us off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, so I was just thinking, you know, Art and Tom and. I was just thinking that Chuck and Tom and Ralph are all deceased."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:145", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 11.351763638671176, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The rest of the group in Portachuelo were assigned to the rice cooperative there in various capacities."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Who else was there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our group, it was Tom Woodward and Chuck Glass and Art Andres and Ralph Clarke and Audrey Dorf and Wayne and I. And at first we all lived in the same house, which was the top floor of a very large house and the owner of the house served us our meals together, etcetera. It wasn't the best setup in the world, but it started us off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, so I was just thinking, you know, Art and Tom and. I was just thinking that Chuck and Tom and Ralph are all deceased."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't know where Art is. So is that pretty much what you did most of the time that you were there was work with homemakers clubs and the Cuatro-Ese?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:147", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.279737376301307, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In our group, it was Tom Woodward and Chuck Glass and Art Andres and Ralph Clarke and Audrey Dorf and Wayne and I. And at first we all lived in the same house, which was the top floor of a very large house and the owner of the house served us our meals together, etcetera. It wasn't the best setup in the world, but it started us off."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, so I was just thinking, you know, Art and Tom and. I was just thinking that Chuck and Tom and Ralph are all deceased."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't know where Art is. So is that pretty much what you did most of the time that you were there was work with homemakers clubs and the Cuatro-Ese?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was reminded again by reading these letters that I did that for, oh, maybe seven, eight months and then realized that I was, Marcella and I were really duplicating each other. So I branched out then into, I hope I helped with her, helped her a little bit with that. Then I branched out into the schools. I was asked by the teachers at the primary and what they call the normal school, which was equivalent to high school, and the kindergarten, to teach nutrition and health classes there, and then some English classes. They wanted English also. So I started doing that as well, because Marcella was doing a perfectly good job on her own."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. Sort of helped train her then."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:149", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.310819307001452, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I don't know where Art is. So is that pretty much what you did most of the time that you were there was work with homemakers clubs and the Cuatro-Ese?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was reminded again by reading these letters that I did that for, oh, maybe seven, eight months and then realized that I was, Marcella and I were really duplicating each other. So I branched out then into, I hope I helped with her, helped her a little bit with that. Then I branched out into the schools. I was asked by the teachers at the primary and what they call the normal school, which was equivalent to high school, and the kindergarten, to teach nutrition and health classes there, and then some English classes. They wanted English also. So I started doing that as well, because Marcella was doing a perfectly good job on her own."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. Sort of helped train her then."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yes. I thought that she would remain there long after I left, which was not the case."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can't predict."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:151", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.45646589666828, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was reminded again by reading these letters that I did that for, oh, maybe seven, eight months and then realized that I was, Marcella and I were really duplicating each other. So I branched out then into, I hope I helped with her, helped her a little bit with that. Then I branched out into the schools. I was asked by the teachers at the primary and what they call the normal school, which was equivalent to high school, and the kindergarten, to teach nutrition and health classes there, and then some English classes. They wanted English also. So I started doing that as well, because Marcella was doing a perfectly good job on her own."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. Sort of helped train her then."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yes. I thought that she would remain there long after I left, which was not the case."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You can't predict."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, because she married a Peace Corps volunteer and she left before I did. But yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you think about any particular incidents that happened that were really memorable, that you might like to tell me about?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:155", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.810451724281826, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, because she married a Peace Corps volunteer and she left before I did. But yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you think about any particular incidents that happened that were really memorable, that you might like to tell me about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Memorable in a positive way?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any way."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think, I mean, this isn’t very significant but memorable. Were the many, many hours that Marcella and I spent digging our Jeep out of the mud and her willingness to go seek help and the willingness of villagers to come and help us, or to invite us into their home overnight if we couldn't get ourselves moved out of there. This was a real experience. I remember one time we came back to a homemakers group that we had been working with quite diligently. We had a handicraft project going because they wanted to make items which they could sell in the market. And one time we came back and they had burned all their own handicraft. And we later found out that they had thought that Marcella, they had heard that Marcella and I were communists. That was the word they used. Someone had told them that. So they had burned all their handicraft articles. How sad was that? I don't remember the follow-up of that at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you continue going out there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:157", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.011613026979807, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Memorable in a positive way?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Any way."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think, I mean, this isn’t very significant but memorable. Were the many, many hours that Marcella and I spent digging our Jeep out of the mud and her willingness to go seek help and the willingness of villagers to come and help us, or to invite us into their home overnight if we couldn't get ourselves moved out of there. This was a real experience. I remember one time we came back to a homemakers group that we had been working with quite diligently. We had a handicraft project going because they wanted to make items which they could sell in the market. And one time we came back and they had burned all their own handicraft. And we later found out that they had thought that Marcella, they had heard that Marcella and I were communists. That was the word they used. Someone had told them that. So they had burned all their handicraft articles. How sad was that? I don't remember the follow-up of that at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you continue going out there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, you know, I don't remember that part of it because that memory only came back the other letter I had written to my parents. I’d forgotten that part."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, there was quite a bit of anti-American sentiment in Bolivia at the time."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:159", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 13.34623669664423, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think, I mean, this isn’t very significant but memorable. Were the many, many hours that Marcella and I spent digging our Jeep out of the mud and her willingness to go seek help and the willingness of villagers to come and help us, or to invite us into their home overnight if we couldn't get ourselves moved out of there. This was a real experience. I remember one time we came back to a homemakers group that we had been working with quite diligently. We had a handicraft project going because they wanted to make items which they could sell in the market. And one time we came back and they had burned all their own handicraft. And we later found out that they had thought that Marcella, they had heard that Marcella and I were communists. That was the word they used. Someone had told them that. So they had burned all their handicraft articles. How sad was that? I don't remember the follow-up of that at all."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you continue going out there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, you know, I don't remember that part of it because that memory only came back the other letter I had written to my parents. I’d forgotten that part."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, there was quite a bit of anti-American sentiment in Bolivia at the time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, even in, remember, even in the Santa Cruz newspaper, even Peace Corps was questioned more than once."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Well, so what else do you remember? That’s fascinating. Tell me some more. Was it challenging trying to teach some of the things you were trying to teach to the women?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:161", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 12.606929662938033, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, you know, I don't remember that part of it because that memory only came back the other letter I had written to my parents. I’d forgotten that part."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, there was quite a bit of anti-American sentiment in Bolivia at the time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, even in, remember, even in the Santa Cruz newspaper, even Peace Corps was questioned more than once."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Well, so what else do you remember? That’s fascinating. Tell me some more. Was it challenging trying to teach some of the things you were trying to teach to the women?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was in a way, because, well, you know, people are the same really all over the world. Sometimes you get into a project with a lot of enthusiasm and oftentimes that enthusiasm isn't sustained. So sometimes Marcella and I would drive, you know, 15 muddy miles to a village to attend a meeting that had been scheduled the month before, to find only one person there. But then we didn't turn around and go home. Instead, we walked from house to house inviting people. And it was discouraging because we thought, you know, that they would gladly come and get together. And sometimes that enthusiasm wasn't always there. But so what else is new? That happens everywhere in the world."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It does. Do you remember in 1963 where you were when we found out about Kennedy being assassinated?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:167", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.319519427898536, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes, yes. Wayne had a meeting with Harold Vedato who was our director, our project director, in Santa Cruz. So he and I were in their house actually. Harold Vedato and Wayne and Sandy White, who was the USAID man, were meeting together. And, um, Maxine, Mrs. Vedato, she and I were just in the living room and her radio was on. And it was some news report, but very scratchy. The reception was really bad. And we thought we heard this news about President Kennedy being killed and we couldn't believe it. We put our ear to the radio and then we called the guys in to listen. And that's where we first learned about the assassination. And we still couldn't quite believe it, because while the radio was really scratchy, I don't remember if it was in English. Probably was Voice of America, I don't know. But we were also stunned. And the Vedatos were from Texas. So, you know, that was even more stunning for them. So then I don't know how we got the official word."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was in Santa Cruz at the same time. We were on our way to a meeting in Cochabamba, I think. Some of us, at least. I know I was traveling with someone and I don't remember. And we went to Santa Cruz, Sucre, and then up to Cochabamba."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, I don't remember that part."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It may be that I was doing something specific. I don't remember."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I do remember once we got back home to Portachuelo how people from Portachuelo would come to our house and just knock at our door and embrace us as if one of our parents had died. I mean, they were so, they were in mourning. The people of our village, it was amazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was. I remember on the trip I took the flags are flying at half mast, the next day, all the way up to like Sucre, all these little white flags."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:169", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.021688253220595, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, I don't remember that part."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It may be that I was doing something specific. I don't remember."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I do remember once we got back home to Portachuelo how people from Portachuelo would come to our house and just knock at our door and embrace us as if one of our parents had died. I mean, they were so, they were in mourning. The people of our village, it was amazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was. I remember on the trip I took the flags are flying at half mast, the next day, all the way up to like Sucre, all these little white flags."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I think people were wearing bands on their arms. Whether they were bands of mourning, I don't remember. Many people were wearing those bands."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "People would come up and just wherever and tell you."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:171", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.801875836911772, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I do remember once we got back home to Portachuelo how people from Portachuelo would come to our house and just knock at our door and embrace us as if one of our parents had died. I mean, they were so, they were in mourning. The people of our village, it was amazing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was. I remember on the trip I took the flags are flying at half mast, the next day, all the way up to like Sucre, all these little white flags."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I think people were wearing bands on their arms. Whether they were bands of mourning, I don't remember. Many people were wearing those bands."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "People would come up and just wherever and tell you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, and then embrace you and say we're so sorry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh yeah. Big jolt for me. I imagine it was a big jolt for you. I didn't think that would happen in the U.S. at the time."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:173", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.668750929901968, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I think people were wearing bands on their arms. Whether they were bands of mourning, I don't remember. Many people were wearing those bands."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "People would come up and just wherever and tell you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, and then embrace you and say we're so sorry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh yeah. Big jolt for me. I imagine it was a big jolt for you. I didn't think that would happen in the U.S. at the time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, of course not. Not what I know now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So OK, so when you got up, when you got down to the end of your time there and you were leaving and all. What do you think you really accomplished there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:175", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 8.520834366557743, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, and then embrace you and say we're so sorry."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh yeah. Big jolt for me. I imagine it was a big jolt for you. I didn't think that would happen in the U.S. at the time."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, of course not. Not what I know now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So OK, so when you got up, when you got down to the end of your time there and you were leaving and all. What do you think you really accomplished there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I didn't save the world, but I think that's where I learned a whole lot. For one thing, I learned what it is like to live with other people and to absorb all the love and good feelings that they surrounded us with. I learned that it was possible to be accepted into a community, even though we were somewhat different from the other people there. And I hope that through the classes and lessons I taught, I hope that some people's minds were opened a little bit to maybe change a little bit or at least to consider what options they had. And then when we worked with especially the Cuarto-Ese groups where children were able to accomplish something. It's the same with us. If we actually accomplish something ourselves, then our self-confidence increases and then we go on to something else on our own accord. And I think and I hope that happens with a lot of people that we had contact with there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. So in the long run, what do you think your major contribution was? Just what you said?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:177", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.356482629508603, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, of course not. Not what I know now."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So OK, so when you got up, when you got down to the end of your time there and you were leaving and all. What do you think you really accomplished there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I didn't save the world, but I think that's where I learned a whole lot. For one thing, I learned what it is like to live with other people and to absorb all the love and good feelings that they surrounded us with. I learned that it was possible to be accepted into a community, even though we were somewhat different from the other people there. And I hope that through the classes and lessons I taught, I hope that some people's minds were opened a little bit to maybe change a little bit or at least to consider what options they had. And then when we worked with especially the Cuarto-Ese groups where children were able to accomplish something. It's the same with us. If we actually accomplish something ourselves, then our self-confidence increases and then we go on to something else on our own accord. And I think and I hope that happens with a lot of people that we had contact with there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. So in the long run, what do you think your major contribution was? Just what you said?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, just what I said really. We were one more contact that they had that hopefully opened the minds, the minds of those around us, to accepting Americans, to recognizing what Americans were like too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have any health problems while you were there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:179", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 9.284980699454003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I didn't save the world, but I think that's where I learned a whole lot. For one thing, I learned what it is like to live with other people and to absorb all the love and good feelings that they surrounded us with. I learned that it was possible to be accepted into a community, even though we were somewhat different from the other people there. And I hope that through the classes and lessons I taught, I hope that some people's minds were opened a little bit to maybe change a little bit or at least to consider what options they had. And then when we worked with especially the Cuarto-Ese groups where children were able to accomplish something. It's the same with us. If we actually accomplish something ourselves, then our self-confidence increases and then we go on to something else on our own accord. And I think and I hope that happens with a lot of people that we had contact with there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. So in the long run, what do you think your major contribution was? Just what you said?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, just what I said really. We were one more contact that they had that hopefully opened the minds, the minds of those around us, to accepting Americans, to recognizing what Americans were like too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have any health problems while you were there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, I got malaria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh did you? I didn’t know that."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:181", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.205534110504448, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, just what I said really. We were one more contact that they had that hopefully opened the minds, the minds of those around us, to accepting Americans, to recognizing what Americans were like too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you have any health problems while you were there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, I got malaria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh did you? I didn’t know that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't know it was malaria at the time. And at the time there was no there was no malaria preventative. But I mean I have since had malaria in a different country, so I recognized it. For one month I just wanted to go home to my mommy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did this happen? Early on in your?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:183", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.228371233893832, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yeah, I got malaria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh did you? I didn’t know that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't know it was malaria at the time. And at the time there was no there was no malaria preventative. But I mean I have since had malaria in a different country, so I recognized it. For one month I just wanted to go home to my mommy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did this happen? Early on in your?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it was sort of in the middle, in the middle of it all. And I was so sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I can't believe I didn't know that had it."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:185", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.3648569265487, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I didn't know it was malaria at the time. And at the time there was no there was no malaria preventative. But I mean I have since had malaria in a different country, so I recognized it. For one month I just wanted to go home to my mommy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When did this happen? Early on in your?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it was sort of in the middle, in the middle of it all. And I was so sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I can't believe I didn't know that had it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I didn't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You didn't know that it was malaria. And see the doctors, from my point of view, were at a disadvantage, our Peace Corps doctors, because they were not trained in tropical medicine. I mean, nobody would have diagnosed Audrey with Chagas, if hadn't been for that local doctor."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:187", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.627618807276333, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, it was sort of in the middle, in the middle of it all. And I was so sick."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I can't believe I didn't know that had it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I didn't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You didn't know that it was malaria. And see the doctors, from my point of view, were at a disadvantage, our Peace Corps doctors, because they were not trained in tropical medicine. I mean, nobody would have diagnosed Audrey with Chagas, if hadn't been for that local doctor."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. But we had all the mosquitoes. I mean, it was just the typical place to contract malaria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I pretty much slept under a mosquito net."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:189", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 14.03068756364037, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "But I didn't know."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You didn't know that it was malaria. And see the doctors, from my point of view, were at a disadvantage, our Peace Corps doctors, because they were not trained in tropical medicine. I mean, nobody would have diagnosed Audrey with Chagas, if hadn't been for that local doctor."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. But we had all the mosquitoes. I mean, it was just the typical place to contract malaria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I pretty much slept under a mosquito net."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we did, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But then you go out. What about, did you guys travel any while you were there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:191", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.700763959600413, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. But we had all the mosquitoes. I mean, it was just the typical place to contract malaria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I pretty much slept under a mosquito net."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we did, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But then you go out. What about, did you guys travel any while you were there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We took one big trip at a Christmas time, so I guess it was ‘63. So we went down the coast of Chile, way down to the end. And then we came across Argentina in a train, third class. Oh my gosh. With the windows open and the dust coming in and our seats were wooden benches in the train. We went to Buenos Aires. Oh, and then getting home, we were late coming home because we were going to come home by train across Uruguay, I guess. And the trains were on strike. There we were, stuck in this city in Uruguay and trying to fly out. But for some reason, I don't know if there were commercial flights. Well, finally, finally, we went up to this pilot who was flying cargo to Santa Cruz. And after about five days of trying, we were accepted on that cargo plane."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, what would happen, because subsequently I lived two years in Paraguay. There was just no way if you wanted to go to Bolivia, you had to go to Buenos Aires and then go up to La Paz. You couldn’t just fly across."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:193", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.445293288444903, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we did, too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But then you go out. What about, did you guys travel any while you were there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We took one big trip at a Christmas time, so I guess it was ‘63. So we went down the coast of Chile, way down to the end. And then we came across Argentina in a train, third class. Oh my gosh. With the windows open and the dust coming in and our seats were wooden benches in the train. We went to Buenos Aires. Oh, and then getting home, we were late coming home because we were going to come home by train across Uruguay, I guess. And the trains were on strike. There we were, stuck in this city in Uruguay and trying to fly out. But for some reason, I don't know if there were commercial flights. Well, finally, finally, we went up to this pilot who was flying cargo to Santa Cruz. And after about five days of trying, we were accepted on that cargo plane."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, what would happen, because subsequently I lived two years in Paraguay. There was just no way if you wanted to go to Bolivia, you had to go to Buenos Aires and then go up to La Paz. You couldn’t just fly across."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, officially. Unofficially in some kind of cargo plane."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:195", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 8.272548098272114, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We took one big trip at a Christmas time, so I guess it was ‘63. So we went down the coast of Chile, way down to the end. And then we came across Argentina in a train, third class. Oh my gosh. With the windows open and the dust coming in and our seats were wooden benches in the train. We went to Buenos Aires. Oh, and then getting home, we were late coming home because we were going to come home by train across Uruguay, I guess. And the trains were on strike. There we were, stuck in this city in Uruguay and trying to fly out. But for some reason, I don't know if there were commercial flights. Well, finally, finally, we went up to this pilot who was flying cargo to Santa Cruz. And after about five days of trying, we were accepted on that cargo plane."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, what would happen, because subsequently I lived two years in Paraguay. There was just no way if you wanted to go to Bolivia, you had to go to Buenos Aires and then go up to La Paz. You couldn’t just fly across."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, officially. Unofficially in some kind of cargo plane."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we were planning to take the train. But they went on strike. So and the cargo happened to be raw meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh my gosh."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:197", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.191720109191237, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, officially. Unofficially in some kind of cargo plane."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we were planning to take the train. But they went on strike. So and the cargo happened to be raw meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh my gosh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we got on the plane."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It must have been coming from Paraguay."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:199", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.21302234354582, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we were planning to take the train. But they went on strike. So and the cargo happened to be raw meat."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh my gosh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we got on the plane."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It must have been coming from Paraguay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think so. There were cows at the airport. We didn't know that. So they slaughtered the cows there in the airport and put the meat in our plane that we were on, in the aisles. There were only like about five passengers. Yeah, and we flew to Santa Cruz."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's got to be one of the more interesting flights you probably have ever taken."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:201", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.236691492828689, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "When we got on the plane."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It must have been coming from Paraguay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think so. There were cows at the airport. We didn't know that. So they slaughtered the cows there in the airport and put the meat in our plane that we were on, in the aisles. There were only like about five passengers. Yeah, and we flew to Santa Cruz."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's got to be one of the more interesting flights you probably have ever taken."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And there was one man, similar to a steward on an airplane, who actually served us 7-Up on a tray. He had to crawl all over this cargo to get to us. But he did it graciously. And that is the truth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that has to be preserved, Marj, for that reason, that story, alone."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:203", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.374101658698542, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think so. There were cows at the airport. We didn't know that. So they slaughtered the cows there in the airport and put the meat in our plane that we were on, in the aisles. There were only like about five passengers. Yeah, and we flew to Santa Cruz."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's got to be one of the more interesting flights you probably have ever taken."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And there was one man, similar to a steward on an airplane, who actually served us 7-Up on a tray. He had to crawl all over this cargo to get to us. But he did it graciously. And that is the truth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that has to be preserved, Marj, for that reason, that story, alone."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It wasn't frozen either."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's probably why they had to get it fast over there, because there wasn’t any refrigeration. Oh wow, OK. So the goals of the Peace Corps were like technical assistance where requested, promote better understanding of the U.S., and to promote better understanding of other people by Americans. So in light of those goals, how would you evaluate your time there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:205", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.63789073188727, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And there was one man, similar to a steward on an airplane, who actually served us 7-Up on a tray. He had to crawl all over this cargo to get to us. But he did it graciously. And that is the truth."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, that has to be preserved, Marj, for that reason, that story, alone."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It wasn't frozen either."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's probably why they had to get it fast over there, because there wasn’t any refrigeration. Oh wow, OK. So the goals of the Peace Corps were like technical assistance where requested, promote better understanding of the U.S., and to promote better understanding of other people by Americans. So in light of those goals, how would you evaluate your time there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was time well spent because, yes, I think we met all of those goals. We learned a lot. And hopefully people who were in contact with us also saw us for what we were as Americans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you, um, so when you came home, what did you do? How did that experience translate into your subsequent life?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:207", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 8, "return_to_go": 14.042100813208076, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It wasn't frozen either."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's probably why they had to get it fast over there, because there wasn’t any refrigeration. Oh wow, OK. So the goals of the Peace Corps were like technical assistance where requested, promote better understanding of the U.S., and to promote better understanding of other people by Americans. So in light of those goals, how would you evaluate your time there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was time well spent because, yes, I think we met all of those goals. We learned a lot. And hopefully people who were in contact with us also saw us for what we were as Americans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you, um, so when you came home, what did you do? How did that experience translate into your subsequent life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, very directly, actually. First, we had to finish school, go back to school, because neither of us even had our bachelor's degrees at that time. So we did that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you go to school?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:209", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 6.713445348008974, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it was time well spent because, yes, I think we met all of those goals. We learned a lot. And hopefully people who were in contact with us also saw us for what we were as Americans."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you, um, so when you came home, what did you do? How did that experience translate into your subsequent life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, very directly, actually. First, we had to finish school, go back to school, because neither of us even had our bachelor's degrees at that time. So we did that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you go to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I went back to North Dakota State University. And we had met and I had one year left and I had signed up to be a math teacher in Holly, Minnesota. But that summer, we got a letter from the Department of Welfare in Nevada because we had met, as Peace Corps volunteers on application I was talking about. We had met another Peace Corps couple from Colombia, and we got to know them a little bit on vacation and then never heard from them again. But they had subsequently returned to the U.S. and had taken positions at the Indian reservation in northern Nevada. And they were looking for a home ec teacher and an industrial arts teacher. And Wayne was industrial arts at that time. So they had told their director to go to the Peace Corps office and try to find our names, to locate us. And they found us and offered us the job. So Wayne and I then went to Nevada to work on this reservation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not too far removed from the Peace Corps."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:211", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 7.459383720009971, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, very directly, actually. First, we had to finish school, go back to school, because neither of us even had our bachelor's degrees at that time. So we did that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you go to school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I went back to North Dakota State University. And we had met and I had one year left and I had signed up to be a math teacher in Holly, Minnesota. But that summer, we got a letter from the Department of Welfare in Nevada because we had met, as Peace Corps volunteers on application I was talking about. We had met another Peace Corps couple from Colombia, and we got to know them a little bit on vacation and then never heard from them again. But they had subsequently returned to the U.S. and had taken positions at the Indian reservation in northern Nevada. And they were looking for a home ec teacher and an industrial arts teacher. And Wayne was industrial arts at that time. So they had told their director to go to the Peace Corps office and try to find our names, to locate us. And they found us and offered us the job. So Wayne and I then went to Nevada to work on this reservation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not too far removed from the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very, very similar. Very similar to Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So subsequently, what have you been doing?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:213", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 8.288204133344411, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I went back to North Dakota State University. And we had met and I had one year left and I had signed up to be a math teacher in Holly, Minnesota. But that summer, we got a letter from the Department of Welfare in Nevada because we had met, as Peace Corps volunteers on application I was talking about. We had met another Peace Corps couple from Colombia, and we got to know them a little bit on vacation and then never heard from them again. But they had subsequently returned to the U.S. and had taken positions at the Indian reservation in northern Nevada. And they were looking for a home ec teacher and an industrial arts teacher. And Wayne was industrial arts at that time. So they had told their director to go to the Peace Corps office and try to find our names, to locate us. And they found us and offered us the job. So Wayne and I then went to Nevada to work on this reservation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not too far removed from the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very, very similar. Very similar to Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So subsequently, what have you been doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we were still then and then we were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did another tour, didn't you? Of the Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:215", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 4.764671259271569, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Very, very similar. Very similar to Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So subsequently, what have you been doing?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we were still then and then we were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did another tour, didn't you? Of the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Actually, we were supposed to go back to Bolivia as Peace Corps staff. Wayne was getting the staff position. He'd been accepted for that position. And then Peace Corps, at that time, was discontinued in Bolivia. And that was when we were just, we'd already moved out of our house, sold our car, everything. So instead we were sent to India. And Wayne was associate Peace Corps director in India. But then the war between India and Pakistan broke out. So Indira Gandhi said Peace Corps volunteers serving could fulfill their terms, but there would be no more Peace Corps in India. And so we were given, oh, just two months to get out. And then we had to, we as staff people, had to leave."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When, uh, how long were you in India then?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:217", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.1829680658573, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we were still then and then we were."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You did another tour, didn't you? Of the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Actually, we were supposed to go back to Bolivia as Peace Corps staff. Wayne was getting the staff position. He'd been accepted for that position. And then Peace Corps, at that time, was discontinued in Bolivia. And that was when we were just, we'd already moved out of our house, sold our car, everything. So instead we were sent to India. And Wayne was associate Peace Corps director in India. But then the war between India and Pakistan broke out. So Indira Gandhi said Peace Corps volunteers serving could fulfill their terms, but there would be no more Peace Corps in India. And so we were given, oh, just two months to get out. And then we had to, we as staff people, had to leave."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When, uh, how long were you in India then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were in India only a year, um, over a year. But it was a two- year contract."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, same thing happened with me in Chile. We were expecting to go. It was USAID contract to be there three years and after a year it was discontinued because our government and theirs, Pinochet, didn't agree. So, you know, you're always getting up with that."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:219", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.647742295396999, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. Actually, we were supposed to go back to Bolivia as Peace Corps staff. Wayne was getting the staff position. He'd been accepted for that position. And then Peace Corps, at that time, was discontinued in Bolivia. And that was when we were just, we'd already moved out of our house, sold our car, everything. So instead we were sent to India. And Wayne was associate Peace Corps director in India. But then the war between India and Pakistan broke out. So Indira Gandhi said Peace Corps volunteers serving could fulfill their terms, but there would be no more Peace Corps in India. And so we were given, oh, just two months to get out. And then we had to, we as staff people, had to leave."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When, uh, how long were you in India then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were in India only a year, um, over a year. But it was a two- year contract."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, same thing happened with me in Chile. We were expecting to go. It was USAID contract to be there three years and after a year it was discontinued because our government and theirs, Pinochet, didn't agree. So, you know, you're always getting up with that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So after that then what did you do? Weren't you in Africa?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:221", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 5.164158105996666, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were in India only a year, um, over a year. But it was a two- year contract."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, same thing happened with me in Chile. We were expecting to go. It was USAID contract to be there three years and after a year it was discontinued because our government and theirs, Pinochet, didn't agree. So, you know, you're always getting up with that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So after that then what did you do? Weren't you in Africa?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Well, that came later either."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you come back to the U.S.?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:223", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.5157312288851843, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So after that then what did you do? Weren't you in Africa?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Well, that came later either."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you come back to the U.S.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we were supposed to. Yeah. Because we were supposed to continue as Peace Corps staff, or Wayne as Peace Corps staff, in Jamaica. But they weren't ready for us yet. So in the meantime, we learned of a job, community development job, with the Kootenai tribe in northern Idaho. So we thought, well, we're just sitting here doing nothing. Let's go for the interview anyway. And we got there and decided, hey, you know, this is great, let's move here. So that's how that happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was wondering how you ended up in Idaho."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:225", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.9063680320946492, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Well, that came later either."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you come back to the U.S.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because we were supposed to. Yeah. Because we were supposed to continue as Peace Corps staff, or Wayne as Peace Corps staff, in Jamaica. But they weren't ready for us yet. So in the meantime, we learned of a job, community development job, with the Kootenai tribe in northern Idaho. So we thought, well, we're just sitting here doing nothing. Let's go for the interview anyway. And we got there and decided, hey, you know, this is great, let's move here. So that's how that happened."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I was wondering how you ended up in Idaho."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, right. Yeah. In the meantime, while we were in Nevada, our two children, two of our children were born there, so at that time we had two kids."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if you had it to do over, if you were advising some younger person, would you advise them to go into the Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:229", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 4.822676582832901, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, right. Yeah. In the meantime, while we were in Nevada, our two children, two of our children were born there, so at that time we had two kids."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So if you had it to do over, if you were advising some younger person, would you advise them to go into the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Depending on their personalities. I think they have to be really open minded and certainly not out to save the world, because that's not what it's all about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not possible."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever regret having gone in yourself?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:231", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.358529536481001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Depending on their personalities. I think they have to be really open minded and certainly not out to save the world, because that's not what it's all about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Not possible."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever regret having gone in yourself?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, no. That was something that opened me up completely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it changed what your direction in life?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:233", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 4.8428105960900005, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you ever regret having gone in yourself?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, no. That was something that opened me up completely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it changed what your direction in life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, definitely. Because of our working time have been in community development either overseas or with the Native Americans here in the U.S."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s kind of like service-related jobs."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:235", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.1586784401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no, no. That was something that opened me up completely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you think it changed what your direction in life?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, definitely. Because of our working time have been in community development either overseas or with the Native Americans here in the U.S."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s kind of like service-related jobs."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. And, we had one more Peace Corps experience because, um. Two more. Wayne was the associate Peace Corps director in the Lesotho in southern Africa. And then he was country director in the Gambia. But all this time I met more and more Peace Corps volunteers on an informal basis, because I was employed elsewhere, not the Peace Corps, but I just saw the quality of those volunteers that came and went. Yeah, I met."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it good?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:237", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.2874204890000003, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, definitely. Because of our working time have been in community development either overseas or with the Native Americans here in the U.S."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s kind of like service-related jobs."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. And, we had one more Peace Corps experience because, um. Two more. Wayne was the associate Peace Corps director in the Lesotho in southern Africa. And then he was country director in the Gambia. But all this time I met more and more Peace Corps volunteers on an informal basis, because I was employed elsewhere, not the Peace Corps, but I just saw the quality of those volunteers that came and went. Yeah, I met."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was basically, yeah, like eighty five percent. I mean, of course the training at that time later, in later years, wasn't as stringent. So sometimes volunteers became volunteers and they really didn't have the fortitude for it, or they came with a I want to save the world attitude and then were disappointed. But I met a lot of wonderful young, well, not only young. Some of the older retirees who were volunteers were special people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are pretty happy that you did it?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:239", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.4304672100000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm. And, we had one more Peace Corps experience because, um. Two more. Wayne was the associate Peace Corps director in the Lesotho in southern Africa. And then he was country director in the Gambia. But all this time I met more and more Peace Corps volunteers on an informal basis, because I was employed elsewhere, not the Peace Corps, but I just saw the quality of those volunteers that came and went. Yeah, I met."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it good?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was basically, yeah, like eighty five percent. I mean, of course the training at that time later, in later years, wasn't as stringent. So sometimes volunteers became volunteers and they really didn't have the fortitude for it, or they came with a I want to save the world attitude and then were disappointed. But I met a lot of wonderful young, well, not only young. Some of the older retirees who were volunteers were special people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are pretty happy that you did it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, of course. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, well, I think we're probably at the end here. I’m going to sign us off now. Go ahead, we’ll give it a minute. OK, do you want to talk about the work you did later in the Peace Corps, related to the embassy work?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:241", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.47829690000000014, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was basically, yeah, like eighty five percent. I mean, of course the training at that time later, in later years, wasn't as stringent. So sometimes volunteers became volunteers and they really didn't have the fortitude for it, or they came with a I want to save the world attitude and then were disappointed. But I met a lot of wonderful young, well, not only young. Some of the older retirees who were volunteers were special people."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you are pretty happy that you did it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, of course. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, well, I think we're probably at the end here. I’m going to sign us off now. Go ahead, we’ll give it a minute. OK, do you want to talk about the work you did later in the Peace Corps, related to the embassy work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. Um, well, I spent some time in Tanzania too, like seven years, but that was an agricultural related project. But I think what I remember most, my most recent professional experience, was at the American embassy in the Gambia. And I."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you happen to get into the embassy? Were you working with USAID or?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:245", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, yes. Um, well, I spent some time in Tanzania too, like seven years, but that was an agricultural related project. But I think what I remember most, my most recent professional experience, was at the American embassy in the Gambia. And I."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you happen to get into the embassy? Were you working with USAID or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no. My husband was country director of Peace Corps in the Gambia. That was our last assignment. And then an embassy position opened up and three of us applied. But it was for the ambassador self- help program, which is basically a community development program. And so I applied for that and got that job. And that was great because it was Peace Corps all over again, except it had some money attached to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Higher salary."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And also, also the U.S. government granted money to projects. Projects that were identified by the various communities, whether, um, whether they be agricultural or income generating projects for communities. Communities would propose a project and many proposals would come in and I would look at them and choose what I thought was the most beneficial ones to fund and pass it through a committee. And then decisions were made about which projects the ambassador would fund. And then it was, once the project got going, then I got to do the follow-up. The visitations and the evaluation and that meant traveling around the country like a Peace Corps volunteer, actually. Yeah. So it's very interesting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that must have been interesting. And you had such great background for it as opposed to people that we used to see coming in when we were in Bolivia that had no clue exactly what they were supposed to be."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:247", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no. My husband was country director of Peace Corps in the Gambia. That was our last assignment. And then an embassy position opened up and three of us applied. But it was for the ambassador self- help program, which is basically a community development program. And so I applied for that and got that job. And that was great because it was Peace Corps all over again, except it had some money attached to it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Higher salary."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And also, also the U.S. government granted money to projects. Projects that were identified by the various communities, whether, um, whether they be agricultural or income generating projects for communities. Communities would propose a project and many proposals would come in and I would look at them and choose what I thought was the most beneficial ones to fund and pass it through a committee. And then decisions were made about which projects the ambassador would fund. And then it was, once the project got going, then I got to do the follow-up. The visitations and the evaluation and that meant traveling around the country like a Peace Corps volunteer, actually. Yeah. So it's very interesting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that must have been interesting. And you had such great background for it as opposed to people that we used to see coming in when we were in Bolivia that had no clue exactly what they were supposed to be."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Right. And an additional fact was that oftentimes there were Peace Corps volunteers living in these different communities. And I would correspond with them and communicate with them and get their opinions. And oftentimes, if the project was funded, then they were there to help with it, facilitate it. So it was a combination of all of this rolled into one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where did you do, in the Gambia?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:249", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And also, also the U.S. government granted money to projects. Projects that were identified by the various communities, whether, um, whether they be agricultural or income generating projects for communities. Communities would propose a project and many proposals would come in and I would look at them and choose what I thought was the most beneficial ones to fund and pass it through a committee. And then decisions were made about which projects the ambassador would fund. And then it was, once the project got going, then I got to do the follow-up. The visitations and the evaluation and that meant traveling around the country like a Peace Corps volunteer, actually. Yeah. So it's very interesting."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, that must have been interesting. And you had such great background for it as opposed to people that we used to see coming in when we were in Bolivia that had no clue exactly what they were supposed to be."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Right. And an additional fact was that oftentimes there were Peace Corps volunteers living in these different communities. And I would correspond with them and communicate with them and get their opinions. And oftentimes, if the project was funded, then they were there to help with it, facilitate it. So it was a combination of all of this rolled into one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where did you do, in the Gambia?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the Gambia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great. That would be fascinating."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:251", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. Right. And an additional fact was that oftentimes there were Peace Corps volunteers living in these different communities. And I would correspond with them and communicate with them and get their opinions. And oftentimes, if the project was funded, then they were there to help with it, facilitate it. So it was a combination of all of this rolled into one."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And where did you do, in the Gambia?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the Gambia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great. That would be fascinating."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was very fun. And not too many Americans wanted that job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you had to get out and get dirty."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:253", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the Gambia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Great. That would be fascinating."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was very fun. And not too many Americans wanted that job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you had to get out and get dirty."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. And they probably were afraid of that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, subsequently I was, uh, my ex took a job with USAID in Paraguay. And we took a pick up, but I worked as a volunteer, a former Fulbright scholar, to do this community development stuff. The embassy ladies had no clue or just not. But, you know, as a former Peace Corps volunteer."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:255", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was very fun. And not too many Americans wanted that job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Because you had to get out and get dirty."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. And they probably were afraid of that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, subsequently I was, uh, my ex took a job with USAID in Paraguay. And we took a pick up, but I worked as a volunteer, a former Fulbright scholar, to do this community development stuff. The embassy ladies had no clue or just not. But, you know, as a former Peace Corps volunteer."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. You have to have some background. Otherwise it would be impossible to do a job like that well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. Well, that's really nice. How long did you do that kind of stuff?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:257", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Right. And they probably were afraid of that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You know, subsequently I was, uh, my ex took a job with USAID in Paraguay. And we took a pick up, but I worked as a volunteer, a former Fulbright scholar, to do this community development stuff. The embassy ladies had no clue or just not. But, you know, as a former Peace Corps volunteer."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. You have to have some background. Otherwise it would be impossible to do a job like that well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. Well, that's really nice. How long did you do that kind of stuff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Until, well, that was our last assignment. That was a two-year position."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you work then again when you came home?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:259", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. You have to have some background. Otherwise it would be impossible to do a job like that well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, absolutely. Well, that's really nice. How long did you do that kind of stuff?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Until, well, that was our last assignment. That was a two-year position."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you work then again when you came home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nope, nope. Well, then it slid into the same kind of work, but volunteer. No pay. And that’s fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Still in the Peace Corps but no pay."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00260:261", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Until, well, that was our last assignment. That was a two-year position."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you work then again when you came home?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Nope, nope. Well, then it slid into the same kind of work, but volunteer. No pay. And that’s fun."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Still in the Peace Corps but no pay."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But that's interesting, Marj. I didn't realize that you had done that as well. I met people in the course of my work in Latin America who were doing all kinds of things at the embassy in Latin America, you know, in Paraguay and Chile and places like that. But that's interesting."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.532771636069814, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was so further down on the chain I'm not sure I had the right perspective. Although, after Challenger, it was probably one of the more significant periods of learning for a young systems engineer, because we essentially went back to the beginning and said, \"Well, did we get this design right?\" And we went back to review every aspect of the design at that time. So that was an initiative that I'm sure was started at the top, I just only saw one end of it. But I'm sure [it was] very similar."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you feel like that's really helped you where you are now, the fact that you've gone through all of those?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, absolutely. Understanding that it's about relationships and trust, that's critical to success of the NESC or success of any program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How would you teach these lessons or processes to the next group of upcoming program managers or employees? How do you instill some of the things that you feel are important for success?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it's participating in inter-center projects, projects that get you out of your current role where you may have blinders on to your center's perspective only. Going and spending time at another center. I spent my first 16 years at the Kennedy Space Center and didn't know anything else, and so when I went to the Johnson Space Center, it was quite an education for me to see, from a different perspective, the same Shuttle Program. Getting younger folks the opportunity—it would have been nice, I think, earlier in my career to have been able to be involved in other inter-center projects or go to another center for some period of time. I think that's critical."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's a good thing to know. What do you feel, of all the lessons that you've learned, what's the hardest one that you’ve had to learn? Or maybe I should say the one that you take with you no matter where you go?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:19", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.591968484522015, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, absolutely. Understanding that it's about relationships and trust, that's critical to success of the NESC or success of any program."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How would you teach these lessons or processes to the next group of upcoming program managers or employees? How do you instill some of the things that you feel are important for success?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it's participating in inter-center projects, projects that get you out of your current role where you may have blinders on to your center's perspective only. Going and spending time at another center. I spent my first 16 years at the Kennedy Space Center and didn't know anything else, and so when I went to the Johnson Space Center, it was quite an education for me to see, from a different perspective, the same Shuttle Program. Getting younger folks the opportunity—it would have been nice, I think, earlier in my career to have been able to be involved in other inter-center projects or go to another center for some period of time. I think that's critical."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's a good thing to know. What do you feel, of all the lessons that you've learned, what's the hardest one that you’ve had to learn? Or maybe I should say the one that you take with you no matter where you go?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it's when I said Columbia and Challenger. If you’re blinded by the successes that you have, you don't think critically enough about issues. That will stay with me forever."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Can you teach those type of techniques in a class? And if so, did you have any of those on the job?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 17.2151826292874, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, but I think that's exactly what a leader or a project manager wants. He can make a better, more well-informed decision if he hears—whether it's two or three or four different perspectives on the problem. Often we'll hone in on one solution, and we get stuck on that one solution, and we missed the problem altogether. So if you're a leader, to me, you're better off if you can hear two or three different perspectives on the problem, and then you can make a decision on which way to go based on those perspectives. I think that results in better, more well-informed decision making."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "The way that your program is set up, are you in that position to be the person that asks those questions and to bring those in? Or do other people in the group of your experts take that lead in the discussions?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes it's me, sometimes we have leads for different tasks. We have multiple people that do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in your case here, are you making a decision or a recommendation back to the program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hopefully what we're providing, and what our intent is, [is] to provide them an engineering position based on test and analysis, so that it's not just a judgment or somebody's opinion. It's that we went off and did testing or we did analysis, and these were the results to back up our position. In providing a different perspective, it's not just our engineering opinion or judgment; we're supposed to be backed by test and analysis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you feel that the decision to create your Center will continue on to help solve future issues?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 16.905758476986, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Sometimes it's me, sometimes we have leads for different tasks. We have multiple people that do that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And in your case here, are you making a decision or a recommendation back to the program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Hopefully what we're providing, and what our intent is, [is] to provide them an engineering position based on test and analysis, so that it's not just a judgment or somebody's opinion. It's that we went off and did testing or we did analysis, and these were the results to back up our position. In providing a different perspective, it's not just our engineering opinion or judgment; we're supposed to be backed by test and analysis."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you feel that the decision to create your Center will continue on to help solve future issues?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. Because we were created actually before the CAIB [Columbia Accident Investigation Board] report was written, it was the summer of 2003, there was a lot of support to go do this. As we get further and further away from the accident, I fear that there will be less and less support because as always, funding is an issue, and the less people remember what was happening at the accident, the less people there are to ensure that organizations like this are properly funded. So it’ll be a struggle as we get further and further away from an accident, I believe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well maybe some of the lessons learned and the processes you've created will continue."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:39", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.7601956506, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't know. Because we were created actually before the CAIB [Columbia Accident Investigation Board] report was written, it was the summer of 2003, there was a lot of support to go do this. As we get further and further away from the accident, I fear that there will be less and less support because as always, funding is an issue, and the less people remember what was happening at the accident, the less people there are to ensure that organizations like this are properly funded. So it’ll be a struggle as we get further and further away from an accident, I believe."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well maybe some of the lessons learned and the processes you've created will continue."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I do think, because we do see now the programs, Constellation, Shuttle [International Space] Station, much more willing to bring in folks from the outside and to bring in folks from Robotic Space Flight Centers. A great example was [when] the Shuttle Program was dealing with an engine cutoff sensor anomaly—it's been two years now. They actually requested one of our folks from [NASA] Goddard [Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Maryland] to lead the Tiger Team to look into the anomaly. That would have been unheard of five, ten years ago, that they would have brought somebody in from Goddard to lead that. I think we're making headway from that standpoint, and if we can make that happen, and if it was universal, you wouldn't need the NESC. The goal would be to make everybody think that way, and then you don't need the NESC."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many issues have you addressed since you've been in formation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In four years, it's a little over 250 issues. All different, all Mission Directorates, so not just human space flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are these any of the ones that you've seen or ones that you encountered when you were sitting in the midst of the program?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.844661834, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I do think, because we do see now the programs, Constellation, Shuttle [International Space] Station, much more willing to bring in folks from the outside and to bring in folks from Robotic Space Flight Centers. A great example was [when] the Shuttle Program was dealing with an engine cutoff sensor anomaly—it's been two years now. They actually requested one of our folks from [NASA] Goddard [Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Maryland] to lead the Tiger Team to look into the anomaly. That would have been unheard of five, ten years ago, that they would have brought somebody in from Goddard to lead that. I think we're making headway from that standpoint, and if we can make that happen, and if it was universal, you wouldn't need the NESC. The goal would be to make everybody think that way, and then you don't need the NESC."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many issues have you addressed since you've been in formation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In four years, it's a little over 250 issues. All different, all Mission Directorates, so not just human space flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are these any of the ones that you've seen or ones that you encountered when you were sitting in the midst of the program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. So I recuse myself from those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What advice would you share with somebody joining a similar program or wanting to join NASA at this point?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:43", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.04962426, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In four years, it's a little over 250 issues. All different, all Mission Directorates, so not just human space flight."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are these any of the ones that you've seen or ones that you encountered when you were sitting in the midst of the program?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. So I recuse myself from those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What advice would you share with somebody joining a similar program or wanting to join NASA at this point?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it's what we've already talked about, how important it is to build those relationships and trust. Often as engineers, we're trained in the discipline and the physics of a problem, or math, or engineering solutions, and knowing how to and knowing how important it is to build trust and relationships is not what we get trained in. You have to see some examples, like I mentioned Ron and Tommy, of how important it is to go do that. If somebody's starting a new program, I’d spend a whole lot of time, as much time on those relationships as I do on the technical aspect of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have any suggestions on how to teach that or how to train people in that?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:45", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 13.3884714, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. So I recuse myself from those."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What advice would you share with somebody joining a similar program or wanting to join NASA at this point?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think it's what we've already talked about, how important it is to build those relationships and trust. Often as engineers, we're trained in the discipline and the physics of a problem, or math, or engineering solutions, and knowing how to and knowing how important it is to build trust and relationships is not what we get trained in. You have to see some examples, like I mentioned Ron and Tommy, of how important it is to go do that. If somebody's starting a new program, I’d spend a whole lot of time, as much time on those relationships as I do on the technical aspect of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You have any suggestions on how to teach that or how to train people in that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think you have to see it and participate in it to appreciate it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A hands-on type of affair, isn’t it? What else would you recommend to equip the next generation of Space Agency employees? What are those attributes that people are looking for, that you can train to have that trust and that relationship building?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 9.49194, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I think you have to see it and participate in it to appreciate it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A hands-on type of affair, isn’t it? What else would you recommend to equip the next generation of Space Agency employees? What are those attributes that people are looking for, that you can train to have that trust and that relationship building?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "A lot of times, I know what we see that really inhibits that is when people become really defensive about their technical position. They're not open to other people's suggestions or criticisms, and they get way too defensive, and then they really, again, become blind to seeing that there might be a different way of accomplishing it or a different solution. So trying to be able to resist that temptation to be defensive about your own particular technical position, and to be open about somebody else's perspective, and to listen to other people's perspective—I can't tell you how much I've learned in the last four years. After working in the Agency for 25 years, I've probably learned more in the last four because I'm working with such a diverse group with diverse experience. So if I take the time to listen to them, I can do a whole lot better than if I just stick to my own personal technical position that I've developed only by working in human space flight. So you really have to be able to open up your mind to other perspectives, and it’s difficult sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's a great point, thanks for bringing that up because I think everybody gets comfortable."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, absolutely. When I was at the Kennedy Space Center, it was a frame of reference that was purely processing of the Shuttle. When I went to the Johnson Space Center, I said, \"Oh!\" It was a totally different perspective. Now I've been working with folks from Research Centers and Robotic Space Flight Centers for the past four years, and it's two and three different perspectives. There's something we can learn from all of them, and if we can keep open to that, we'll do much better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very good information. I think I've kind of worked through all those. If you want to look through some other thoughts."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 10.5466, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "A lot of times, I know what we see that really inhibits that is when people become really defensive about their technical position. They're not open to other people's suggestions or criticisms, and they get way too defensive, and then they really, again, become blind to seeing that there might be a different way of accomplishing it or a different solution. So trying to be able to resist that temptation to be defensive about your own particular technical position, and to be open about somebody else's perspective, and to listen to other people's perspective—I can't tell you how much I've learned in the last four years. After working in the Agency for 25 years, I've probably learned more in the last four because I'm working with such a diverse group with diverse experience. So if I take the time to listen to them, I can do a whole lot better than if I just stick to my own personal technical position that I've developed only by working in human space flight. So you really have to be able to open up your mind to other perspectives, and it’s difficult sometimes."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's a great point, thanks for bringing that up because I think everybody gets comfortable."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, absolutely. When I was at the Kennedy Space Center, it was a frame of reference that was purely processing of the Shuttle. When I went to the Johnson Space Center, I said, \"Oh!\" It was a totally different perspective. Now I've been working with folks from Research Centers and Robotic Space Flight Centers for the past four years, and it's two and three different perspectives. There's something we can learn from all of them, and if we can keep open to that, we'll do much better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very good information. I think I've kind of worked through all those. If you want to look through some other thoughts."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think we hit everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think one of the areas that we might have, that you might want to talk about a little bit more, is that when we ask for an example of a successful risk mitigation activity."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 7.274, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, absolutely. When I was at the Kennedy Space Center, it was a frame of reference that was purely processing of the Shuttle. When I went to the Johnson Space Center, I said, \"Oh!\" It was a totally different perspective. Now I've been working with folks from Research Centers and Robotic Space Flight Centers for the past four years, and it's two and three different perspectives. There's something we can learn from all of them, and if we can keep open to that, we'll do much better."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Very good information. I think I've kind of worked through all those. If you want to look through some other thoughts."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think we hit everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think one of the areas that we might have, that you might want to talk about a little bit more, is that when we ask for an example of a successful risk mitigation activity."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the STS-93 electrical short. The ascent of STS-93 we had an electrical short in a circuit that affected the main engine controllers, and following that, the program stood down, I believe it was about four months, if I remember correctly. We inspected all the wiring, or a majority of the wiring, on all the ships. To me, it took a lot of courage on the Program Manager's part to say, \"No, we're going to stop. We're not going to fly until we investigate this anomaly.\"\\n\\n It's hard to maybe remember, but there was a lot of pressure there, before Columbia, to complete the Space Station. I think it takes a strong leader to be able to recognize when we need to stop and truly investigate a problem without flying. Often we get in this position where, \"Oh, we'll continue to fly while we'll investigate the problem.\" Because from a schedule pressure standpoint, that seems to be the easiest thing to go do. So it takes a lot of courage to stop and truly investigate a problem while the fleet's on the ground."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One of the comments that you made through our visit today was about a strong leader, and you mentioned that you worked with Tommy Holloway and Ron Dittemore. Are there others?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 5.86, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think we hit everything."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I think one of the areas that we might have, that you might want to talk about a little bit more, is that when we ask for an example of a successful risk mitigation activity."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, the STS-93 electrical short. The ascent of STS-93 we had an electrical short in a circuit that affected the main engine controllers, and following that, the program stood down, I believe it was about four months, if I remember correctly. We inspected all the wiring, or a majority of the wiring, on all the ships. To me, it took a lot of courage on the Program Manager's part to say, \"No, we're going to stop. We're not going to fly until we investigate this anomaly.\"\\n\\n It's hard to maybe remember, but there was a lot of pressure there, before Columbia, to complete the Space Station. I think it takes a strong leader to be able to recognize when we need to stop and truly investigate a problem without flying. Often we get in this position where, \"Oh, we'll continue to fly while we'll investigate the problem.\" Because from a schedule pressure standpoint, that seems to be the easiest thing to go do. So it takes a lot of courage to stop and truly investigate a problem while the fleet's on the ground."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One of the comments that you made through our visit today was about a strong leader, and you mentioned that you worked with Tommy Holloway and Ron Dittemore. Are there others?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bill [William H.] Gerstenmaier and Bob [Robert B.] Sieck. Those are folks that do represent strong leaders in my mind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned some of the attributes that you find in leadership. Were there other attributes with the gentlemen that you mentioned, like openness and good communication? Were there other things that they did that you admired, that you feel really helped the success of the program? Maybe you could share with us how they deal with failures? When things didn't work out the way they were supposed to, when they had to start over again. What were some of the leadership things that you felt that they did to help carry the program through?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 6.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Bill [William H.] Gerstenmaier and Bob [Robert B.] Sieck. Those are folks that do represent strong leaders in my mind."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned some of the attributes that you find in leadership. Were there other attributes with the gentlemen that you mentioned, like openness and good communication? Were there other things that they did that you admired, that you feel really helped the success of the program? Maybe you could share with us how they deal with failures? When things didn't work out the way they were supposed to, when they had to start over again. What were some of the leadership things that you felt that they did to help carry the program through?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m trying to think of good examples. I think the whole aspect of building up the team, as opposed to sometimes you get a leader who has a tendency to tear down the team when things don't go right. But those gentlemen, Tommy and Ron, [and] Bill, they have a tendency to build up the team and build up the morale. That's probably it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s a good thought. Is there anything else that you can think you'd like to add?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think we covered most of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right. I can give you a minute. I don't want to rush you."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00761:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I’m trying to think of good examples. I think the whole aspect of building up the team, as opposed to sometimes you get a leader who has a tendency to tear down the team when things don't go right. But those gentlemen, Tommy and Ron, [and] Bill, they have a tendency to build up the team and build up the morale. That's probably it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That’s a good thought. Is there anything else that you can think you'd like to add?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think we covered most of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right. I can give you a minute. I don't want to rush you."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think we talked about a little bit, the creation of those councils in the Shuttle Program. Earlier in the Shuttle Program, there was certainly a lot of friction between the Centers, Marshall [Space Flight Center, Huntsville, Alabama], Kennedy, and Johnson. The relationships, I thought, were horrible in some cases. The creation of those councils really went a long way to improve those relationships and got the Centers working together much better. I thought that was critical, too. I think that's it. I think we talked about all my key points."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right. I thank you, and I wish you the best of luck in taking care of those issues before they become problems."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00171:9", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 37.04603219723446, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Anyplace you want."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And work our way up.\\n\\n You said when you first came to NASA that things on the lunar module were going pretty slowly. How far in development was the LM, particularly the crew station layout, the things you're working on, when you first started working on that? What kind of concepts were there and what sort of physical mechanism was there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was assigned to the lunar module as soon as I came, and I got here about April of '63. That's when I moved in to NASA. Had to find my bearings there, who I'm working with, who else is where, what was going on. We started to make the contacts at Grumman at that time. The first true thing that we saw in Grumman was the mockup in September of '63."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is it the M-1 mockup?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, I think it's called M-1. That's when, I think, all of NASA got exposed to what was going on. People from the Cape were there, Washington, everybody was there. We saw then what was starting to shape up as the lunar module. So when I say, you know, things hadn't gone too far, I hadn't seen anything until the M-1. I was working not only that program, but I was also working some of the Gemini stuff at the same time. So I'd say slow, it wasn't all that slow, but anytime you're building hardware or designing hardware, it doesn't go fast. It takes years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Since you brought up Gemini, you'd mentioned some of the work with Gemini VIII and working a little bit on the crew cabin. Can you elaborate on how much involvement you did have with that program?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00171:17", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 47.31905532271674, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. That was one of the things that we did, was put in the lever up there, that strap."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "As a result of that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, sir. It was the first thing. That was a surprise. I remember Neil Armstrong and his flight checking that and checking it twice, and in the altitude chamber he'd check it again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, at least he didn't have as much trouble as [Alexei] Leonov did on the Russian flight where he couldn't get it closed without deflating his suit some."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. It's a tough thing that, you know, that you think it's going to work and it doesn't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You mentioned how relevant some of these things were to Apollo. Could you maybe explain a little bit of what some of these other lessons were from Gemini that were directly applicable to Apollo, and maybe what were some new areas that you had to think about for the lunar program that didn't really have any comparison with Gemini, or maybe some things that you learned that you didn't want to do in the second program that you had done earlier?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00171:58", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Yes, the airlock was included in the very beginning to do EVA. That was going to be part of the task of buildings space stations or handling payloads, or doing those other things. Now, a lot of the payloads don't require EVA, but every payload has a presumption that EVA is required in case something fails. So that's all built in.\\n\\n I guess the first one that required EVA was the telescope. That was to be serviced. The others were not to be serviced. But every payload that went up there can be handled by a man, every one of them, in some fashion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "This time I am out of questions. But I did want to let you have an opportunity to make any final remarks or any other stories that come to mind before we wrap it up."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I won't keep you any longer. [Laughter] You can all go home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, our work day's not over just yet. So we're happy to stick around if there's anything else you'd like to add."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't have anything in particular. I think it's an interesting program. I'd sure like to see the whole thing some time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it's a pretty big project so far. So there's a lot to see. I want to take the time to say thanks for coming in this afternoon and spending these few hours with us."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00171:60", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. I won't keep you any longer. [Laughter] You can all go home."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, our work day's not over just yet. So we're happy to stick around if there's anything else you'd like to add."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't have anything in particular. I think it's an interesting program. I'd sure like to see the whole thing some time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it's a pretty big project so far. So there's a lot to see. I want to take the time to say thanks for coming in this afternoon and spending these few hours with us."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I enjoyed it. I haven't talked about this in ten years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, we're glad you liked it."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00171:62", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't have anything in particular. I think it's an interesting program. I'd sure like to see the whole thing some time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it's a pretty big project so far. So there's a lot to see. I want to take the time to say thanks for coming in this afternoon and spending these few hours with us."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I enjoyed it. I haven't talked about this in ten years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, we're glad you liked it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know it's tough when you go back forty years and try to remember stuff, but I'm glad you guys are doing this. There's a lot of people that can really add to this thing. I'm sure you're getting them as time goes on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, we're always happy to take suggestions for more people if there's anybody else that comes to mind."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:1", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.164846725989985, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was the thing to do."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It was the thing to do."}, {"role": "user", "content": "1967, didn't everybody want to join the Peace Corps? It really was. I didn't even give a second thought. It just was the thing to do. But there were a couple of things behind it. One of them, I went to Oklahoma State for my undergraduate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you're from Oklahoma?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm from Ohio. I went out there to play football. So I was on a football scholarship at Oklahoma State and a senior on the team named Kirk Breed kind of took a liking to me as a freshman. It's kind of rare for a senior on the football team to pay any attention at all to a freshman. But Kirk, for some reason seemed to like me. And he was going into the Peace Corps. And he just flat out told me my freshman year said, I'm going to the Peace Corps and you are too. And I thought, OK. And that kind of stuck with me throughout my undergraduate years, and a number of other things happened along the way. But it was just a natural thing to, of course, I go into the Peace Corps. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you study in college?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:3", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 17.96094080665554, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "1967, didn't everybody want to join the Peace Corps? It really was. I didn't even give a second thought. It just was the thing to do. But there were a couple of things behind it. One of them, I went to Oklahoma State for my undergraduate."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you're from Oklahoma?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm from Ohio. I went out there to play football. So I was on a football scholarship at Oklahoma State and a senior on the team named Kirk Breed kind of took a liking to me as a freshman. It's kind of rare for a senior on the football team to pay any attention at all to a freshman. But Kirk, for some reason seemed to like me. And he was going into the Peace Corps. And he just flat out told me my freshman year said, I'm going to the Peace Corps and you are too. And I thought, OK. And that kind of stuck with me throughout my undergraduate years, and a number of other things happened along the way. But it was just a natural thing to, of course, I go into the Peace Corps. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you study in college?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was a communications major because I was on the football team and the only course I could pass was a speech course, and so I became a speech major."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure that's not exactly true, but it sounds good. And so what did, when you joined the Peace? So right after college, did you decide to join the Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:5", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.6232675629506, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm from Ohio. I went out there to play football. So I was on a football scholarship at Oklahoma State and a senior on the team named Kirk Breed kind of took a liking to me as a freshman. It's kind of rare for a senior on the football team to pay any attention at all to a freshman. But Kirk, for some reason seemed to like me. And he was going into the Peace Corps. And he just flat out told me my freshman year said, I'm going to the Peace Corps and you are too. And I thought, OK. And that kind of stuck with me throughout my undergraduate years, and a number of other things happened along the way. But it was just a natural thing to, of course, I go into the Peace Corps. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What did you study in college?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was a communications major because I was on the football team and the only course I could pass was a speech course, and so I became a speech major."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure that's not exactly true, but it sounds good. And so what did, when you joined the Peace? So right after college, did you decide to join the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. By my senior year, there were just no question I'm going to go to the Peace Corps. And so I applied. I was accepted into a program in Ethiopia, and then they changed it to Micronesia, and then they changed it to Colombia. And I learned a little bit geography in the process. Like all the rest of us, I got out a map and looked up these places to see where the heck they were and ended up in Colombia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what kind of a program was it?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:7", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.35918618105622, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I was a communications major because I was on the football team and the only course I could pass was a speech course, and so I became a speech major."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I'm sure that's not exactly true, but it sounds good. And so what did, when you joined the Peace? So right after college, did you decide to join the Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. By my senior year, there were just no question I'm going to go to the Peace Corps. And so I applied. I was accepted into a program in Ethiopia, and then they changed it to Micronesia, and then they changed it to Colombia. And I learned a little bit geography in the process. Like all the rest of us, I got out a map and looked up these places to see where the heck they were and ended up in Colombia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what kind of a program was it?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it was a community development, which of course, as people in the Peace Corps know, that means you're going to drop you in a village and say, do good work, figure out what to do, and see what you can do. So I was on the coast of Colombia, the Caribbean coast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Before we go into all of that, just let's talk a little bit about what was the reaction of your parents and your friends to all of us? Did this make sense to them?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:11", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 21.43109405068669, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it was a community development, which of course, as people in the Peace Corps know, that means you're going to drop you in a village and say, do good work, figure out what to do, and see what you can do. So I was on the coast of Colombia, the Caribbean coast."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Before we go into all of that, just let's talk a little bit about what was the reaction of your parents and your friends to all of us? Did this make sense to them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of my friends, I was part of the. I got hurt playing football. I couldn't play anymore, became part of the activist community, the free speech and the anti-war movement. And a bunch of us, there are at least 10 of us, of my classmates in the activist community who went into the Peace Corps. We all went in at the same time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anti-war protest."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. So we just went into the Peace Corps and it just among all of us, you know, as we hung out together, we just kind of talked about where we were going to go and it just seemed to be the most normal thing in the world. Of course, we're going to the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And your parents were fine with us."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:13", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 22.701215611874098, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Most of my friends, I was part of the. I got hurt playing football. I couldn't play anymore, became part of the activist community, the free speech and the anti-war movement. And a bunch of us, there are at least 10 of us, of my classmates in the activist community who went into the Peace Corps. We all went in at the same time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Anti-war protest."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. So we just went into the Peace Corps and it just among all of us, you know, as we hung out together, we just kind of talked about where we were going to go and it just seemed to be the most normal thing in the world. Of course, we're going to the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And your parents were fine with us."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were fine with it. They kind of knew I was a little bit crazy and adventuresome. So my dad had a little bit of a hard time understanding, particularly when he visited me in Colombia, because he had come from extreme poverty. I mean, incredible poverty. He had been abandoned by his parents and had to survive on his own at a very early age and worked extremely hard, was an extraordinarily accomplished man. There are parks named after him and there's a bust of him on the campus at Ohio State, so he had just done extraordinary. And part of his reaction was I worked really hard so that you wouldn't have to live like this. And it was hard for him to understand why I would voluntarily live in poverty in poverty. But I think he also appreciated what I was doing and why I was doing it. So there was never any antipathy among us. We just kind of understood each other and it was fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I don't know what training was like in 1967. So were you trained in the United States or were you trained in Colombia?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:15", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 21.890239568748996, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. So we just went into the Peace Corps and it just among all of us, you know, as we hung out together, we just kind of talked about where we were going to go and it just seemed to be the most normal thing in the world. Of course, we're going to the Peace Corps."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And your parents were fine with us."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They were fine with it. They kind of knew I was a little bit crazy and adventuresome. So my dad had a little bit of a hard time understanding, particularly when he visited me in Colombia, because he had come from extreme poverty. I mean, incredible poverty. He had been abandoned by his parents and had to survive on his own at a very early age and worked extremely hard, was an extraordinarily accomplished man. There are parks named after him and there's a bust of him on the campus at Ohio State, so he had just done extraordinary. And part of his reaction was I worked really hard so that you wouldn't have to live like this. And it was hard for him to understand why I would voluntarily live in poverty in poverty. But I think he also appreciated what I was doing and why I was doing it. So there was never any antipathy among us. We just kind of understood each other and it was fine."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I don't know what training was like in 1967. So were you trained in the United States or were you trained in Colombia?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Both. We were part of a transition from the stateside training to overseas training, so we had the first half of our training here in the U.S. In fact, it was right here at George Washington University. But halfway through, we got on airplanes and flew down to Bogota and got the rest of our training in Colombia."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the training in the United States like at GW?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.931451338068218, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Including the couple. Absolutely."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Fantastic. So the trainers were all former volunteers or were they Colombian?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were some Colombians and so on. And so of course, they were a little confused about what was going on. But Sam and the others, they knew and you know, they're the ones that caused the trouble in the first place, you know, by protesting this guy trying to kick Joe and Sarah out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's quite a training story."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's a wonderful training story. And Sam and I have told it in front of audiences 30 or 40 times."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. And how was the relationship with the director after that?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 13.25716815340913, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were some Colombians and so on. And so of course, they were a little confused about what was going on. But Sam and the others, they knew and you know, they're the ones that caused the trouble in the first place, you know, by protesting this guy trying to kick Joe and Sarah out."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's quite a training story."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's a wonderful training story. And Sam and I have told it in front of audiences 30 or 40 times."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. And how was the relationship with the director after that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, he didn't get any more contracts to train Peace Corps volunteers, let's say that. I never saw him again, never wanted to see him again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this was Dr. Martin who was the problem."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.507964614899034, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's a wonderful training story. And Sam and I have told it in front of audiences 30 or 40 times."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Good. And how was the relationship with the director after that?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, he didn't get any more contracts to train Peace Corps volunteers, let's say that. I never saw him again, never wanted to see him again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this was Dr. Martin who was the problem."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. And I think everybody talked about him, recognized that that's what the problem was. And the Peace Corps country director Bill Dial knew it was a problem as well. So we got to know Bill very well, and he appreciated what we did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so you got sworn in in Bogota."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 13.897738460998927, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, he didn't get any more contracts to train Peace Corps volunteers, let's say that. I never saw him again, never wanted to see him again."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this was Dr. Martin who was the problem."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, yeah. And I think everybody talked about him, recognized that that's what the problem was. And the Peace Corps country director Bill Dial knew it was a problem as well. So we got to know Bill very well, and he appreciated what we did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok, so you got sworn in in Bogota."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Got sworn in. Bogota."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then where were you? Let me ask, other than this whole episode, did you find the training to be helpful? Did it prepare you well for your job?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:41", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 12.219430198764107, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Got sworn in. Bogota."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And then where were you? Let me ask, other than this whole episode, did you find the training to be helpful? Did it prepare you well for your job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It did. Certainly, the language training was extremely valuable. I was terrible at languages. Really, really struggled with learning the Spanish. And Spanish is probably the easiest language to learn for Peace Corps volunteers. In spite of that, I had a hard time learning it. But another quick little story. Many people know the name Gretchen Handwerger, who was a giant in the Peace Corps leadership, a key figure at the World Bank later on in her life. And Gretchen was an observer at one of our training sessions when we were here at GW, and she saw that I was struggling with the Spanish and she asked to meet with me. And I thought, this is it, I'm going to get deselected.\n\nBut instead this great woman, and she really was a great, great woman, pulled me aside and said, you're trying too hard. You're trying too hard. She says, you'll get it, just relax and let it become a part of you. And I was so relieved that she didn't kick me out, and I took that to heart and ended up became becoming quite fluent in Spanish. But I've been eternally grateful and Gretchen and I stayed in touch over the years as well and just so grateful to her for that understanding. And rather than coming down hard on me for not learning the language, she helped me develop an attitude and a positive attitude that enabled me to learn the language. So I've spent my whole life reflecting on that and remembering that when I work, when I have employees who are struggling. I think back to that and say, that's the way I need to handle it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's really good. So training was good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Training was good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You clearly bonded with your fellow volunteers."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:43", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.577144665293451, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It did. Certainly, the language training was extremely valuable. I was terrible at languages. Really, really struggled with learning the Spanish. And Spanish is probably the easiest language to learn for Peace Corps volunteers. In spite of that, I had a hard time learning it. But another quick little story. Many people know the name Gretchen Handwerger, who was a giant in the Peace Corps leadership, a key figure at the World Bank later on in her life. And Gretchen was an observer at one of our training sessions when we were here at GW, and she saw that I was struggling with the Spanish and she asked to meet with me. And I thought, this is it, I'm going to get deselected.\n\nBut instead this great woman, and she really was a great, great woman, pulled me aside and said, you're trying too hard. You're trying too hard. She says, you'll get it, just relax and let it become a part of you. And I was so relieved that she didn't kick me out, and I took that to heart and ended up became becoming quite fluent in Spanish. But I've been eternally grateful and Gretchen and I stayed in touch over the years as well and just so grateful to her for that understanding. And rather than coming down hard on me for not learning the language, she helped me develop an attitude and a positive attitude that enabled me to learn the language. So I've spent my whole life reflecting on that and remembering that when I work, when I have employees who are struggling. I think back to that and say, that's the way I need to handle it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's really good. So training was good."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Training was good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You clearly bonded with your fellow volunteers."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were close."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how big a group was this?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:45", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.085716294770501, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Training was good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You clearly bonded with your fellow volunteers."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were close."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how big a group was this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were 45 of us in the training group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All were in community development?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 16.761906994189445, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were close."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how big a group was this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were 45 of us in the training group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All were in community development?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All of us were community development. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. So then where were you assigned?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.402118882432717, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "There were 45 of us in the training group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All were in community development?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "All of us were community development. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. So then where were you assigned?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was assigned to a barrio on the outskirts of Cartagena. And I always hate to say Cartagena, because anybody that knows anything about Cartagena knows that it's paradise. It's this beautiful, beautiful tourist attraction on the Caribbean coast of Colombia. So people will hear Cartagena. They kind of roll their eyes, say, yeah, Peace Corps Cartagena, give me a break."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this was a barrio in?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:51", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.11346542492524, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All of us were community development. Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ok. So then where were you assigned?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was assigned to a barrio on the outskirts of Cartagena. And I always hate to say Cartagena, because anybody that knows anything about Cartagena knows that it's paradise. It's this beautiful, beautiful tourist attraction on the Caribbean coast of Colombia. So people will hear Cartagena. They kind of roll their eyes, say, yeah, Peace Corps Cartagena, give me a break."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this was a barrio in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On the outskirts of Cartagena, and it was what we called it an invasion barrio. It was squatters. So yes, Cartagena is a beautiful, lovely, lovely place. But the barrio was about as abject poverty as you can get. These were people from the countryside who had moved to the city, squatted on land that nobody had any use for. And they, it was a shanty town. There was one spigot for running water in the middle of the barrio, and that was it for water. We sort of had electricity because somebody had tapped into a power line that came by and it was spliced together going through the barrio. And of course, it would break all the time. And so, you know, maybe an hour or two a week, you would have electricity, but we didn't really have electricity. It was about as impoverished as you can get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you lived in the barrio?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 19.01496158325027, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was assigned to a barrio on the outskirts of Cartagena. And I always hate to say Cartagena, because anybody that knows anything about Cartagena knows that it's paradise. It's this beautiful, beautiful tourist attraction on the Caribbean coast of Colombia. So people will hear Cartagena. They kind of roll their eyes, say, yeah, Peace Corps Cartagena, give me a break."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this was a barrio in?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "On the outskirts of Cartagena, and it was what we called it an invasion barrio. It was squatters. So yes, Cartagena is a beautiful, lovely, lovely place. But the barrio was about as abject poverty as you can get. These were people from the countryside who had moved to the city, squatted on land that nobody had any use for. And they, it was a shanty town. There was one spigot for running water in the middle of the barrio, and that was it for water. We sort of had electricity because somebody had tapped into a power line that came by and it was spliced together going through the barrio. And of course, it would break all the time. And so, you know, maybe an hour or two a week, you would have electricity, but we didn't really have electricity. It was about as impoverished as you can get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you lived in the barrio?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lived in the barrio."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you, um, get a place to live?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:55", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 10, "return_to_go": 20.016623981389188, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "On the outskirts of Cartagena, and it was what we called it an invasion barrio. It was squatters. So yes, Cartagena is a beautiful, lovely, lovely place. But the barrio was about as abject poverty as you can get. These were people from the countryside who had moved to the city, squatted on land that nobody had any use for. And they, it was a shanty town. There was one spigot for running water in the middle of the barrio, and that was it for water. We sort of had electricity because somebody had tapped into a power line that came by and it was spliced together going through the barrio. And of course, it would break all the time. And so, you know, maybe an hour or two a week, you would have electricity, but we didn't really have electricity. It was about as impoverished as you can get."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you lived in the barrio?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lived in the barrio."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you, um, get a place to live?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just asked around and there was a place and for six dollars a month, I paid my rent and had my, I had the nicest place in town at six dollars a month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you didn't have electricity either or water?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:57", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 11.129582201543544, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lived in the barrio."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How did you, um, get a place to live?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just asked around and there was a place and for six dollars a month, I paid my rent and had my, I had the nicest place in town at six dollars a month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you didn't have electricity either or water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. In fact, for water, the kids in the barrio, who were probably seven or eight years old, would pound on my door every morning when the sun came up. And one of them, in particular, his name was Miguel, and I would love to find Miguel again, but he would pound on my door, say Carlos Carlos! Because they called me Carlos, which is the Spanish, of course, for Charles. Carlos, Carlos, agua, agua, agua! Charles, Charles, Chic, Chic, water! And I had a 10-gallon tank. And they would take it up to the water spigot, and he'd wait for hours in line to get water. So instead of me having to wait for the water, they would get the water for me and bring it back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you paid them?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:59", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.14398022393727, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Just asked around and there was a place and for six dollars a month, I paid my rent and had my, I had the nicest place in town at six dollars a month."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you didn't have electricity either or water?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. In fact, for water, the kids in the barrio, who were probably seven or eight years old, would pound on my door every morning when the sun came up. And one of them, in particular, his name was Miguel, and I would love to find Miguel again, but he would pound on my door, say Carlos Carlos! Because they called me Carlos, which is the Spanish, of course, for Charles. Carlos, Carlos, agua, agua, agua! Charles, Charles, Chic, Chic, water! And I had a 10-gallon tank. And they would take it up to the water spigot, and he'd wait for hours in line to get water. So instead of me having to wait for the water, they would get the water for me and bring it back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you paid them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I'd pay them a few pesos, which was just a few cents, but they were thrilled to get it. And then I would put it up on the roof of where I was and let it heat up in the sun and siphon water out of it. And I'd take a nice warm shower."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I know that well."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 11.271089137708078, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No. In fact, for water, the kids in the barrio, who were probably seven or eight years old, would pound on my door every morning when the sun came up. And one of them, in particular, his name was Miguel, and I would love to find Miguel again, but he would pound on my door, say Carlos Carlos! Because they called me Carlos, which is the Spanish, of course, for Charles. Carlos, Carlos, agua, agua, agua! Charles, Charles, Chic, Chic, water! And I had a 10-gallon tank. And they would take it up to the water spigot, and he'd wait for hours in line to get water. So instead of me having to wait for the water, they would get the water for me and bring it back."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And you paid them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I'd pay them a few pesos, which was just a few cents, but they were thrilled to get it. And then I would put it up on the roof of where I was and let it heat up in the sun and siphon water out of it. And I'd take a nice warm shower."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yes, I know that well."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Life was good."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what did you do in the barrio?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.082287970900893, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One room, but large enough to have four essentially breakouts in it. So yes, it was a one room school, but big enough for four classes of about 20 to 25 in the corners of four corners of this rectangular building."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was your role? Did you?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just kind of supervised."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You supervised the building?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was kind of a cheerleader, you know, say, yeah, keep it up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you didn't help build the school."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:71", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 12.313653301000992, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I just kind of supervised."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You supervised the building?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was kind of a cheerleader, you know, say, yeah, keep it up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you didn't help build the school."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yeah, yeah, I did a little bit. But you know, they didn't need my muscle power to build the school. They could do that. But my job was to kind of keep them on track and we helped design. We got somebody to kind of lay out the designs. And so we knew."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did the Department of Education then provided a teacher?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:73", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 10.348503667778878, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was kind of a cheerleader, you know, say, yeah, keep it up."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But you didn't help build the school."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yeah, yeah, I did a little bit. But you know, they didn't need my muscle power to build the school. They could do that. But my job was to kind of keep them on track and we helped design. We got somebody to kind of lay out the designs. And so we knew."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did the Department of Education then provided a teacher?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They did, and I was so proud the day that, with the chairman of the junta de acción companal and I walked into the Secretary of Education for the Departamento de Bolivar. And when I first talked with him about it, he just said, you know, they'll never do it. He kind of dismissed it as fanciful, and I just was so proud. We walked in and said, we have a school, come out and take a look."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long did it take to build this school?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:75", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.387226297532086, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, yeah, yeah, I did a little bit. But you know, they didn't need my muscle power to build the school. They could do that. But my job was to kind of keep them on track and we helped design. We got somebody to kind of lay out the designs. And so we knew."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did the Department of Education then provided a teacher?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "They did, and I was so proud the day that, with the chairman of the junta de acción companal and I walked into the Secretary of Education for the Departamento de Bolivar. And when I first talked with him about it, he just said, you know, they'll never do it. He kind of dismissed it as fanciful, and I just was so proud. We walked in and said, we have a school, come out and take a look."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long did it take to build this school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It took well over a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there other volunteers in the same barrio, or were you the only?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:77", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 11.541362552813428, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "They did, and I was so proud the day that, with the chairman of the junta de acción companal and I walked into the Secretary of Education for the Departamento de Bolivar. And when I first talked with him about it, he just said, you know, they'll never do it. He kind of dismissed it as fanciful, and I just was so proud. We walked in and said, we have a school, come out and take a look."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How long did it take to build this school?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It took well over a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there other volunteers in the same barrio, or were you the only?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was the only one in that barrio."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. So that became your project, the school."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:79", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 10.601513947570476, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It took well over a year."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Were there other volunteers in the same barrio, or were you the only?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was the only one in that barrio."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. So that became your project, the school."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was one of two major projects. We did some literacy stuff and other health projects and so on. The Good Ship Hope came to Cartagena while I was there, and so I arranged for the nurses from the ship Hope to come out and do lectures for the people in the barrio. But they were eking out a living as fishermen using dugout canoes, and we were literally right on the water, right on the bay.\n\nAnd they would paddle their dugout canoes and they would go out and catch fish. But they were using dynamite to catch the fish, which is not a good practice. And it was destroying the fish population and it would destroy the fishermen. If a fisherman had lost an arm, they were called a mojo. That was the term for somebody who lost a limb from the dynamite exploding before they got rid of it. And about half of the fishermen in the barrio were mojos. And I'll never forget paddling dugout canoes out with a guy with only one arm, paddling the canoe with one arm and holding the dynamite in his remaining arm and lighting the match with his teeth and throwing it in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What possessed them to use dynamite?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:81", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 11.779459941744973, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was the only one in that barrio."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. So that became your project, the school."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was one of two major projects. We did some literacy stuff and other health projects and so on. The Good Ship Hope came to Cartagena while I was there, and so I arranged for the nurses from the ship Hope to come out and do lectures for the people in the barrio. But they were eking out a living as fishermen using dugout canoes, and we were literally right on the water, right on the bay.\n\nAnd they would paddle their dugout canoes and they would go out and catch fish. But they were using dynamite to catch the fish, which is not a good practice. And it was destroying the fish population and it would destroy the fishermen. If a fisherman had lost an arm, they were called a mojo. That was the term for somebody who lost a limb from the dynamite exploding before they got rid of it. And about half of the fishermen in the barrio were mojos. And I'll never forget paddling dugout canoes out with a guy with only one arm, paddling the canoe with one arm and holding the dynamite in his remaining arm and lighting the match with his teeth and throwing it in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What possessed them to use dynamite?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it works. It works."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I mean, who came up with this idea?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 13.088288824161081, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That was one of two major projects. We did some literacy stuff and other health projects and so on. The Good Ship Hope came to Cartagena while I was there, and so I arranged for the nurses from the ship Hope to come out and do lectures for the people in the barrio. But they were eking out a living as fishermen using dugout canoes, and we were literally right on the water, right on the bay.\n\nAnd they would paddle their dugout canoes and they would go out and catch fish. But they were using dynamite to catch the fish, which is not a good practice. And it was destroying the fish population and it would destroy the fishermen. If a fisherman had lost an arm, they were called a mojo. That was the term for somebody who lost a limb from the dynamite exploding before they got rid of it. And about half of the fishermen in the barrio were mojos. And I'll never forget paddling dugout canoes out with a guy with only one arm, paddling the canoe with one arm and holding the dynamite in his remaining arm and lighting the match with his teeth and throwing it in."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "What possessed them to use dynamite?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it works. It works."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I mean, who came up with this idea?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No idea, but you know, it's done in developing countries all over the world. So, you know, somehow word got out that it's a way to do it and it works. You know, you find a school of fish, throw a stick of dynamite in, it goes off and the concussion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are all these dead fish."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:85", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 14.542543137956756, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, it works. It works."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But I mean, who came up with this idea?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No idea, but you know, it's done in developing countries all over the world. So, you know, somehow word got out that it's a way to do it and it works. You know, you find a school of fish, throw a stick of dynamite in, it goes off and the concussion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are all these dead fish."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Got a whole bunch of fish, scoop them up and so you got them. So but you know, I was watching that and saying, you know, this isn't good. We've got a whole bunch of mojos and the fish population is declining rapidly. And they were saying, where are all the fish? Well, they're dead because you killed them. So let's find another way to do this without killing off and particularly kill off the small fish. And they don't even scoop up the small ones. They scoop up the big ones and small ones are all gone. So this is not sustainable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did you come up with?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:87", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 15.047270153285284, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No idea, but you know, it's done in developing countries all over the world. So, you know, somehow word got out that it's a way to do it and it works. You know, you find a school of fish, throw a stick of dynamite in, it goes off and the concussion."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "There are all these dead fish."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Got a whole bunch of fish, scoop them up and so you got them. So but you know, I was watching that and saying, you know, this isn't good. We've got a whole bunch of mojos and the fish population is declining rapidly. And they were saying, where are all the fish? Well, they're dead because you killed them. So let's find another way to do this without killing off and particularly kill off the small fish. And they don't even scoop up the small ones. They scoop up the big ones and small ones are all gone. So this is not sustainable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did you come up with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we organized them into a fishing co-op to give them legal status and so they could get loans from the Agrario, the agricultural bank, gave them loans so that they could motors for the boats and get nets, to give them a viable alternative so they could catch virtually as many fish using more appropriate techniques than using the dynamite."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that worked?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:89", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 15.60807794809476, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Got a whole bunch of fish, scoop them up and so you got them. So but you know, I was watching that and saying, you know, this isn't good. We've got a whole bunch of mojos and the fish population is declining rapidly. And they were saying, where are all the fish? Well, they're dead because you killed them. So let's find another way to do this without killing off and particularly kill off the small fish. And they don't even scoop up the small ones. They scoop up the big ones and small ones are all gone. So this is not sustainable."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So what did you come up with?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we organized them into a fishing co-op to give them legal status and so they could get loans from the Agrario, the agricultural bank, gave them loans so that they could motors for the boats and get nets, to give them a viable alternative so they could catch virtually as many fish using more appropriate techniques than using the dynamite."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that worked?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It worked. I can't say we ended dynamite fishing altogether, but dramatically reduced it. And ended up taking that to five fishing villages right along the coast. So I remained based in Albordos, but went to these other villages to help organize a larger co-op and expand the concept of using the boats with motors and nets to reduce anyway, the amount of dynamite fishing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it sounds like you really did good work in this."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:91", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.3423088312164, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we organized them into a fishing co-op to give them legal status and so they could get loans from the Agrario, the agricultural bank, gave them loans so that they could motors for the boats and get nets, to give them a viable alternative so they could catch virtually as many fish using more appropriate techniques than using the dynamite."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that worked?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It worked. I can't say we ended dynamite fishing altogether, but dramatically reduced it. And ended up taking that to five fishing villages right along the coast. So I remained based in Albordos, but went to these other villages to help organize a larger co-op and expand the concept of using the boats with motors and nets to reduce anyway, the amount of dynamite fishing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it sounds like you really did good work in this."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did some good stuff. Yeah, I'm pretty proud of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's excellent. What did you do in your spare time?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:95", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 19.18803559409432, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We did some good stuff. Yeah, I'm pretty proud of it."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's excellent. What did you do in your spare time?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I had a girlfriend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, Colombian, who happened to be a national beauty queen. There was a hit song in Colombia called Se Ama Martinez Larena Nelargorone. And that's the cotton queen for Colombia, named Martinez, that was my girlfriend and we got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You got married."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:97", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 20.208928437882577, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, I had a girlfriend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, Colombian, who happened to be a national beauty queen. There was a hit song in Colombia called Se Ama Martinez Larena Nelargorone. And that's the cotton queen for Colombia, named Martinez, that was my girlfriend and we got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You got married."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, near the end of my service, we got married. And it didn't last, lasted seven years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did she come back to the U.S.?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:99", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 22.45436493098064, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, Colombian, who happened to be a national beauty queen. There was a hit song in Colombia called Se Ama Martinez Larena Nelargorone. And that's the cotton queen for Colombia, named Martinez, that was my girlfriend and we got married."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You got married."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, near the end of my service, we got married. And it didn't last, lasted seven years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did she come back to the U.S.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She came back to the U.S. and I won't go into a number of reasons it didn't work out. But she's still in the U.S. and we have a son from that marriage, who is a great guy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's excellent. So you had a girlfriend. Did you do anything with other Peace Corps volunteers?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:101", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 24.949294367756263, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, near the end of my service, we got married. And it didn't last, lasted seven years."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did she come back to the U.S.?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "She came back to the U.S. and I won't go into a number of reasons it didn't work out. But she's still in the U.S. and we have a son from that marriage, who is a great guy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's excellent. So you had a girlfriend. Did you do anything with other Peace Corps volunteers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did. We would get together. We'd hang out and just party together and have a good time and we'd would travel around the country too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I was going to ask. So you traveled around the country."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:103", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 23.276993741951404, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "She came back to the U.S. and I won't go into a number of reasons it didn't work out. But she's still in the U.S. and we have a son from that marriage, who is a great guy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's excellent. So you had a girlfriend. Did you do anything with other Peace Corps volunteers?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did. We would get together. We'd hang out and just party together and have a good time and we'd would travel around the country too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I was going to ask. So you traveled around the country."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never got out of the country. I would love to have, but I traveled around Colombia. Didn't get as far south as I would like to. I really wanted to get down to Leticia, where the Amazon River just barely touches Colombia. Really wanted to get down there, but just never was able to make it down there. But did get up to Riohacha, where there's this desert or fascinating culture in Riohacha. Got to Bogota, Medellin and you would stay with volunteers wherever you go. You certainly wouldn't want to pay for a place to stay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, not at all."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:105", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 25.863326379946002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did. We would get together. We'd hang out and just party together and have a good time and we'd would travel around the country too."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, I was going to ask. So you traveled around the country."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never got out of the country. I would love to have, but I traveled around Colombia. Didn't get as far south as I would like to. I really wanted to get down to Leticia, where the Amazon River just barely touches Colombia. Really wanted to get down there, but just never was able to make it down there. But did get up to Riohacha, where there's this desert or fascinating culture in Riohacha. Got to Bogota, Medellin and you would stay with volunteers wherever you go. You certainly wouldn't want to pay for a place to stay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, not at all."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, you'd stay with volunteers wherever you went."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so this was a really exciting opportunity for you to organize things. What did you do after Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:107", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 28.737029311051113, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I never got out of the country. I would love to have, but I traveled around Colombia. Didn't get as far south as I would like to. I really wanted to get down to Leticia, where the Amazon River just barely touches Colombia. Really wanted to get down there, but just never was able to make it down there. But did get up to Riohacha, where there's this desert or fascinating culture in Riohacha. Got to Bogota, Medellin and you would stay with volunteers wherever you go. You certainly wouldn't want to pay for a place to stay."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, not at all."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, you'd stay with volunteers wherever you went."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And so this was a really exciting opportunity for you to organize things. What did you do after Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I organized things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Organized things. Did you have any thought of staying longer? Some people extended."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:111", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 34.24324606302606, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I organized things."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Organized things. Did you have any thought of staying longer? Some people extended."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I did. It occurred to me, but I had a very strong relationship with a faculty member at Oklahoma State, and he and I corresponded the whole time I was there and he really wanted me to come back and study with him, and we were kind of planning a partnership for our careers. He had political interest. He was going to run for Congress. So we were going to set up a consulting firm together, and he would run for Congress and I would manage his campaign. And if he won, I would come to Washington as his chief of staff and we were going to change the world. And so I came back and was working on that with Dale [Stockton]. And he was murdered."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's shocking."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's shocking, to say the least. A random killing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just a random killing."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:115", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 29.559563040772918, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's shocking, to say the least. A random killing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just a random killing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were on a trip together. We'd set up our consulting firm. I was still going to school working on a master's degree. He was the debate team coach, the oratory coach, taught speech communications. And the debate team had a tournament in Dallas, Texas, and they all went down with the team. But we had a consulting contract with the Americans for Indian Opportunity. And I don't know if any of you remember Senator Fred Harris."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fred Harris and his wife, LaDonna, set up this program called Americans for Indian Opportunity, and we were good friends with Fred and LaDonna, and we had a contract with them to do some training for Native Americans in Arizona near Phoenix. So I went to Phoenix to get everything set up for this project we were going to do. Going to meet with Fred and LaDonna there. Dale went to Dallas to give a lecture and to be with his debate team and in the hotel where he was staying in Dallas, he was murdered. And I was at the airport to pick him up. And I was paged and told he will not be arriving and you need to get back to Oklahoma."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's just shocking."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:117", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 32.84395893419213, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We were on a trip together. We'd set up our consulting firm. I was still going to school working on a master's degree. He was the debate team coach, the oratory coach, taught speech communications. And the debate team had a tournament in Dallas, Texas, and they all went down with the team. But we had a consulting contract with the Americans for Indian Opportunity. And I don't know if any of you remember Senator Fred Harris."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fred Harris and his wife, LaDonna, set up this program called Americans for Indian Opportunity, and we were good friends with Fred and LaDonna, and we had a contract with them to do some training for Native Americans in Arizona near Phoenix. So I went to Phoenix to get everything set up for this project we were going to do. Going to meet with Fred and LaDonna there. Dale went to Dallas to give a lecture and to be with his debate team and in the hotel where he was staying in Dallas, he was murdered. And I was at the airport to pick him up. And I was paged and told he will not be arriving and you need to get back to Oklahoma."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's just shocking."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Shocking. And in many ways, Dale was just a tremendous inspiration in my life, and I've kind of lived out my life wanting to fulfill his values and his dream of what could be done to make the world a better place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's sad. So then what happened?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 7, "return_to_go": 33.15995437132459, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Fred Harris and his wife, LaDonna, set up this program called Americans for Indian Opportunity, and we were good friends with Fred and LaDonna, and we had a contract with them to do some training for Native Americans in Arizona near Phoenix. So I went to Phoenix to get everything set up for this project we were going to do. Going to meet with Fred and LaDonna there. Dale went to Dallas to give a lecture and to be with his debate team and in the hotel where he was staying in Dallas, he was murdered. And I was at the airport to pick him up. And I was paged and told he will not be arriving and you need to get back to Oklahoma."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's just shocking."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Shocking. And in many ways, Dale was just a tremendous inspiration in my life, and I've kind of lived out my life wanting to fulfill his values and his dream of what could be done to make the world a better place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's sad. So then what happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they had me teach his courses for the rest of the term, and I did the best I could, which was pathetic. You know, obviously very emotional and just, you know, fulfilled the obligations, and I just couldn't finish my master's degree, you know, without Dale. There was just seemed to be no point to it. So I got a job in El Dorado, Kansas, running a community action agency, or a poverty program, doing community organizing. So I did that for a few years and then kind of moved on with the career."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your career was in community organizing based on your Peace Corps experience, do you think?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:121", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 29.066615968138432, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Shocking. And in many ways, Dale was just a tremendous inspiration in my life, and I've kind of lived out my life wanting to fulfill his values and his dream of what could be done to make the world a better place."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "It's sad. So then what happened?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they had me teach his courses for the rest of the term, and I did the best I could, which was pathetic. You know, obviously very emotional and just, you know, fulfilled the obligations, and I just couldn't finish my master's degree, you know, without Dale. There was just seemed to be no point to it. So I got a job in El Dorado, Kansas, running a community action agency, or a poverty program, doing community organizing. So I did that for a few years and then kind of moved on with the career."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your career was in community organizing based on your Peace Corps experience, do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely. And everything I've done since then, I've done it in a whole range of different arenas in the last 20 years or so has been, you know, here in Washington and doing work with the National Peace Corps Association, we'll get into that, and some other organizing types of things. But everything I've done has really been in a way, an organizing sort of thing. I got involved in the arts, a great fan of good music and museums and so on. So I ran two local arts councils, which was organizing the arts community, became the founding director of the National Assembly of Local Arts Agencies, now known as Americans for the Arts, which is well known on National Public Radio. You hear Americans for the Arts every day. I was the founding director of that organization, still involved with them there. The director, Bob Lynch, is a dear friend and I still connect with that community. But I'm the guy that kind of helped get them organized and that's all based on Peace Corps training and Peace Corps experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is all Saul Alinsky."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:123", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 32.29623996459826, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So they had me teach his courses for the rest of the term, and I did the best I could, which was pathetic. You know, obviously very emotional and just, you know, fulfilled the obligations, and I just couldn't finish my master's degree, you know, without Dale. There was just seemed to be no point to it. So I got a job in El Dorado, Kansas, running a community action agency, or a poverty program, doing community organizing. So I did that for a few years and then kind of moved on with the career."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So your career was in community organizing based on your Peace Corps experience, do you think?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely. And everything I've done since then, I've done it in a whole range of different arenas in the last 20 years or so has been, you know, here in Washington and doing work with the National Peace Corps Association, we'll get into that, and some other organizing types of things. But everything I've done has really been in a way, an organizing sort of thing. I got involved in the arts, a great fan of good music and museums and so on. So I ran two local arts councils, which was organizing the arts community, became the founding director of the National Assembly of Local Arts Agencies, now known as Americans for the Arts, which is well known on National Public Radio. You hear Americans for the Arts every day. I was the founding director of that organization, still involved with them there. The director, Bob Lynch, is a dear friend and I still connect with that community. But I'm the guy that kind of helped get them organized and that's all based on Peace Corps training and Peace Corps experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is all Saul Alinsky."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we got to be careful where you use that name. Subversive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But that's where it started."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:125", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 35.88471107177584, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Absolutely. And everything I've done since then, I've done it in a whole range of different arenas in the last 20 years or so has been, you know, here in Washington and doing work with the National Peace Corps Association, we'll get into that, and some other organizing types of things. But everything I've done has really been in a way, an organizing sort of thing. I got involved in the arts, a great fan of good music and museums and so on. So I ran two local arts councils, which was organizing the arts community, became the founding director of the National Assembly of Local Arts Agencies, now known as Americans for the Arts, which is well known on National Public Radio. You hear Americans for the Arts every day. I was the founding director of that organization, still involved with them there. The director, Bob Lynch, is a dear friend and I still connect with that community. But I'm the guy that kind of helped get them organized and that's all based on Peace Corps training and Peace Corps experience."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So this is all Saul Alinsky."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we got to be careful where you use that name. Subversive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But that's where it started."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's where it started. Yeah. And with Sam Farr."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you work with Sam Farr afterwards or you were just friends?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:127", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 35.427456746417604, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, we got to be careful where you use that name. Subversive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But that's where it started."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's where it started. Yeah. And with Sam Farr."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And did you work with Sam Farr afterwards or you were just friends?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. Well, friends. But you know, I ended up on the Hill for a couple of years. And so with John Garamendi, and still very close to John. But even while I was working on the Hill, I was as close, if not closer to Sam. You know, I spent the day working with John and then I'd swing by Sam's office. We'd go to dinner together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So I know you were director of the National Peace Corps Association. How did you, were you the founding?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:151", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 16.01345162194767, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You go and you listen and you find out what the people there say needs to be done. So we mobilized a team of former Peace Corps volunteers, RPCVs, to go to Rwanda and to listen, listen, listen, listen and come back with a set of ideas and concepts of things that could be done.\n\nAnd I'll never forget the day they got off the plane and we went to the State Department and said, here's what we learned, and they were just kind of astonished. Nobody had ever listened to anybody from Rwanda before. Said, well, that makes sense. So we mobilized a team to help build safety, security and stability. Among other things, they needed monitors just in the villages with communication capability. So if things were to flare up again, there was a way of communicating and bringing in support to help make it happen. They also needed to work with the women. There were just a whole lot of women who had been left without their spouses and absolutely destituted, and so we needed to provide training for them and to help them find a way to become self-sufficient."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So were you a U.S. AID contractor then?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "We ended up, we had a USAID contractor through OTI, through this unique new agency that Rick had set up. So that's what we did. And they basically, we would do things and I would send an invoice to Rick and he would send me a check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So based on that, then we thought, well, this this concept has merit. And then we started building other programs, and so we created what we call the, uh, what did we call it? The emergency response network. Yeah. Emergency Response Network through the NPCA. And when Mark Gearan became director of the Peace Corps, he found out about this program and he was impressed. And he said, you know, I'm really impressed with what you guys are doing, he said, but you know, the Peace Corps itself should do this kind of thing. And of course, we struggled to have enough money to be able to do very much of anything with it. But so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Mark took it into Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:153", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 16.68161291327519, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "We ended up, we had a USAID contractor through OTI, through this unique new agency that Rick had set up. So that's what we did. And they basically, we would do things and I would send an invoice to Rick and he would send me a check."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So based on that, then we thought, well, this this concept has merit. And then we started building other programs, and so we created what we call the, uh, what did we call it? The emergency response network. Yeah. Emergency Response Network through the NPCA. And when Mark Gearan became director of the Peace Corps, he found out about this program and he was impressed. And he said, you know, I'm really impressed with what you guys are doing, he said, but you know, the Peace Corps itself should do this kind of thing. And of course, we struggled to have enough money to be able to do very much of anything with it. But so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Mark took it into Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He took it into Peace Corps and it is now called Peace Corps Response. So he asked my permission. He said, would it be OK with you if we were to adopt this program? And I knew if they did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They had funds for sure."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:155", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 18.535125459194653, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So based on that, then we thought, well, this this concept has merit. And then we started building other programs, and so we created what we call the, uh, what did we call it? The emergency response network. Yeah. Emergency Response Network through the NPCA. And when Mark Gearan became director of the Peace Corps, he found out about this program and he was impressed. And he said, you know, I'm really impressed with what you guys are doing, he said, but you know, the Peace Corps itself should do this kind of thing. And of course, we struggled to have enough money to be able to do very much of anything with it. But so."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Mark took it into Peace Corps?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "He took it into Peace Corps and it is now called Peace Corps Response. So he asked my permission. He said, would it be OK with you if we were to adopt this program? And I knew if they did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They had funds for sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, and it would overwhelm what we were doing and there would be no reason or way for us to sustain it. But the idea is to get the job done. If they can do more than we can do, by all means have at it. And so they took it over and it's now Peace Corps Response, which is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Lots of people have joined that."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:157", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 20.594583843549614, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "He took it into Peace Corps and it is now called Peace Corps Response. So he asked my permission. He said, would it be OK with you if we were to adopt this program? And I knew if they did."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They had funds for sure."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, and it would overwhelm what we were doing and there would be no reason or way for us to sustain it. But the idea is to get the job done. If they can do more than we can do, by all means have at it. And so they took it over and it's now Peace Corps Response, which is."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Lots of people have joined that."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Lots of people in it. It's doing really, really good work all over the world. So but that's the origin of Peace Corps Response."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So when did the, I forgot what it was called at the beginning. National Council of Returned Volunteers? When did that become National Peace Corps Association?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:165", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 14, "return_to_go": 18.3654684401, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Exactly. Exactly, because Peace Corps owns the name and the emblem. Yeah. So you can't just go out on your own and do it. Now people do. And a Peace Corps is not going to be a bad ass and go out and put people in jail for using it. But if somebody were to misuse it, and I'm glad they do. There are some people who served in the Peace Corps who don't like the Peace Corps and would be perfectly happy. I know some of these people would be perfectly happy to go out there and tarnish the name of the Peace Corps and create an organization that would tarnish and use the Peace Corps name and tarnish the reputation of the Peace Corps. And I want the Peace Corps to be able to keep that from happening."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "No, that makes sense. That makes sense. So given the state of the world now?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With conflicts all over and conflict starting and people not listening to each other. What do you see as the role of NPCA or Peace Corps volunteers in all of this?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I see a fundamental and central role for the NPCA and the Peace Corps community in all of this. As you probably know, after I left the NPCA, we formed a team of RPCVs to get involved in the Ethiopia Eritrea border war, and we ended up playing a central role in bringing end to that war. In fact, Meles Zenawi, the prime minister of Ethiopia, sent us a letter after it was over saying we created the spirit of the momentum that made the peace agreement possible. That was a group of RPCVs that did that. We met regularly with the heads of state of the two countries and help get them to the point where they were willing to agree to sign an agreement and bring an end to the war. We were invited to Algiers for the Peace Corps, or for the peace treaty signing ceremony. We met at great length with both heads of state right after that signing ceremony. Kofi Annan was there, Madeleine Albright was there, and they wanted to meet with us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That's great. And how did you do that? This was after you left NPCA."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:173", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 4.431441, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Peace Corps. So we did that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So conflict resolution on the ground throughout the world."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And then we did something very similar with the Congo. We brought together and because word kind of spread as to what we were able to do with Ethiopia and Eritrea. And so we were invited to do something similar with the Congo, which of course, had this massive civil war that killed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But this was no longer through NPCA?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was not. And what we did in Ethiopia and Eritrea, we got a very small grant from the Hewlett Foundation and we did this as volunteers. We didn't get paid a penny to do what we did. But the Hewlett Foundation provided a small grant that covered our travel. So when we went to Asmara and Addis Ababa, it was covered by this small grant from the Hewlett Foundation and we did receptions and so on. Every time they would come to the U.S., we would bring people together to meet with them and so on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So but it wasn't through the Association."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:175", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.5904900000000002, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And then we did something very similar with the Congo. We brought together and because word kind of spread as to what we were able to do with Ethiopia and Eritrea. And so we were invited to do something similar with the Congo, which of course, had this massive civil war that killed."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "But this was no longer through NPCA?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was not. And what we did in Ethiopia and Eritrea, we got a very small grant from the Hewlett Foundation and we did this as volunteers. We didn't get paid a penny to do what we did. But the Hewlett Foundation provided a small grant that covered our travel. So when we went to Asmara and Addis Ababa, it was covered by this small grant from the Hewlett Foundation and we did receptions and so on. Every time they would come to the U.S., we would bring people together to meet with them and so on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So but it wasn't through the Association."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, actually, the Association served as the fiscal agent. So it was done through the NPCA that we operated very independently. But the NPCA served as the fiscal agent for the project. And then we did the same thing in the Congo, and the Moore Foundation provided financial support for what we did with the Congo. And there we brought together the leaders of the major rebel groups with the chief advisers to President Kabila and got them to agree to hold something called the Inter-Congolese Dialogue that brought together the rebel groups and the political parties and the business community civil society from throughout Congo to agree to form a coalition government that brought about an end to the large scale civil war. Still dreadful stuff going on in various militias and so on. But the large scale rebellion and civil war is over. And the level of fatalities is down dramatically from what it was. And again, the leaders of those groups credited our group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you would argue that a direct response to conflict with Peace Corps volunteers makes sense."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:177", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.6561000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It was not. And what we did in Ethiopia and Eritrea, we got a very small grant from the Hewlett Foundation and we did this as volunteers. We didn't get paid a penny to do what we did. But the Hewlett Foundation provided a small grant that covered our travel. So when we went to Asmara and Addis Ababa, it was covered by this small grant from the Hewlett Foundation and we did receptions and so on. Every time they would come to the U.S., we would bring people together to meet with them and so on."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So but it wasn't through the Association."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, actually, the Association served as the fiscal agent. So it was done through the NPCA that we operated very independently. But the NPCA served as the fiscal agent for the project. And then we did the same thing in the Congo, and the Moore Foundation provided financial support for what we did with the Congo. And there we brought together the leaders of the major rebel groups with the chief advisers to President Kabila and got them to agree to hold something called the Inter-Congolese Dialogue that brought together the rebel groups and the political parties and the business community civil society from throughout Congo to agree to form a coalition government that brought about an end to the large scale civil war. Still dreadful stuff going on in various militias and so on. But the large scale rebellion and civil war is over. And the level of fatalities is down dramatically from what it was. And again, the leaders of those groups credited our group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you would argue that a direct response to conflict with Peace Corps volunteers makes sense."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It makes sense. It's possible. We've done it. We know it can be done. It can't be done everywhere. But we know it can be done. And then I went from there, a couple of other things, but ended up running something called the Alliance for Peacebuilding, which is the network of people and organizations throughout the world that do conflict resolution, violence prevention, conflict resolution. And a lot of the people in that network are RPCVs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they work throughout the world as well?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:179", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.7290000000000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, actually, the Association served as the fiscal agent. So it was done through the NPCA that we operated very independently. But the NPCA served as the fiscal agent for the project. And then we did the same thing in the Congo, and the Moore Foundation provided financial support for what we did with the Congo. And there we brought together the leaders of the major rebel groups with the chief advisers to President Kabila and got them to agree to hold something called the Inter-Congolese Dialogue that brought together the rebel groups and the political parties and the business community civil society from throughout Congo to agree to form a coalition government that brought about an end to the large scale civil war. Still dreadful stuff going on in various militias and so on. But the large scale rebellion and civil war is over. And the level of fatalities is down dramatically from what it was. And again, the leaders of those groups credited our group."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you would argue that a direct response to conflict with Peace Corps volunteers makes sense."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It makes sense. It's possible. We've done it. We know it can be done. It can't be done everywhere. But we know it can be done. And then I went from there, a couple of other things, but ended up running something called the Alliance for Peacebuilding, which is the network of people and organizations throughout the world that do conflict resolution, violence prevention, conflict resolution. And a lot of the people in that network are RPCVs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they work throughout the world as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And working at all levels, we were fortunate enough to be able to work with the heads of state. A lot of the work of peace building is done at the community level where there are hostilities of ethnic or whatever the nature of the hostilities are. And a lot of the people doing peacebuilding work do it at the community and neighborhood level, which of course is ground zero for Peace Corps people. We feel right at home there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it sounds like you never stopped being a Peace Corps volunteer."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:181", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.81, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It makes sense. It's possible. We've done it. We know it can be done. It can't be done everywhere. But we know it can be done. And then I went from there, a couple of other things, but ended up running something called the Alliance for Peacebuilding, which is the network of people and organizations throughout the world that do conflict resolution, violence prevention, conflict resolution. And a lot of the people in that network are RPCVs."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And they work throughout the world as well?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And working at all levels, we were fortunate enough to be able to work with the heads of state. A lot of the work of peace building is done at the community level where there are hostilities of ethnic or whatever the nature of the hostilities are. And a lot of the people doing peacebuilding work do it at the community and neighborhood level, which of course is ground zero for Peace Corps people. We feel right at home there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it sounds like you never stopped being a Peace Corps volunteer."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Never stop being a Peace Corps volunteer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just in a different mode."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:183", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. And working at all levels, we were fortunate enough to be able to work with the heads of state. A lot of the work of peace building is done at the community level where there are hostilities of ethnic or whatever the nature of the hostilities are. And a lot of the people doing peacebuilding work do it at the community and neighborhood level, which of course is ground zero for Peace Corps people. We feel right at home there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So it sounds like you never stopped being a Peace Corps volunteer."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Never stop being a Peace Corps volunteer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just in a different mode."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changed the title."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Change the title but keep doing the same thing."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:185", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Never stop being a Peace Corps volunteer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Just in a different mode."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changed the title."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Change the title but keep doing the same thing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Get paid, sometimes get paid a little bit more. Although a lot of it, I got paid even less than I got paid in the Peace Corps, you know, what we did in Congo and Ethiopia, Eritrea. You didn't paid a penny. You didn't even get a stipend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right, right. So do you have any other thoughts about the role of Peace Corps? Well, I mean, this is all third goal. I mean, it's third goal."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:187", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Changed the title."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Change the title but keep doing the same thing."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Get paid, sometimes get paid a little bit more. Although a lot of it, I got paid even less than I got paid in the Peace Corps, you know, what we did in Congo and Ethiopia, Eritrea. You didn't paid a penny. You didn't even get a stipend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right, right. So do you have any other thoughts about the role of Peace Corps? Well, I mean, this is all third goal. I mean, it's third goal."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's absolutely third goal. And I just am so honored to have had the opportunity to be a Peace Corps volunteer and proud of the community and what we're able to do. Always frustrated that we don't do more. I think we could do more, but certainly proud of what we do and want to make sure we keep it up. Stay together. Maintaining the NPCA and the country groups and the geographic groups, and just recognize that we had the opportunity of a lifetime to be a Peace Corps volunteer. Yes, there is some sacrifice involved in it, but for God's sakes, to get to go off and live in a remote village and learn the language and meet the people and become part of that. What a privilege! And if you have any value set at all as to what that all means, then I would like to think we would all in our own way, in our own communities, in one way or another, to just have that be a part of who we are and what we are, our identity for the rest of our lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That sounds like a really good place to end this interview."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00097:189", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Get paid, sometimes get paid a little bit more. Although a lot of it, I got paid even less than I got paid in the Peace Corps, you know, what we did in Congo and Ethiopia, Eritrea. You didn't paid a penny. You didn't even get a stipend."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right, right. So do you have any other thoughts about the role of Peace Corps? Well, I mean, this is all third goal. I mean, it's third goal."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It's absolutely third goal. And I just am so honored to have had the opportunity to be a Peace Corps volunteer and proud of the community and what we're able to do. Always frustrated that we don't do more. I think we could do more, but certainly proud of what we do and want to make sure we keep it up. Stay together. Maintaining the NPCA and the country groups and the geographic groups, and just recognize that we had the opportunity of a lifetime to be a Peace Corps volunteer. Yes, there is some sacrifice involved in it, but for God's sakes, to get to go off and live in a remote village and learn the language and meet the people and become part of that. What a privilege! And if you have any value set at all as to what that all means, then I would like to think we would all in our own way, in our own communities, in one way or another, to just have that be a part of who we are and what we are, our identity for the rest of our lives."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "That sounds like a really good place to end this interview."}, {"role": "user", "content": "All right."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Unless there's something else you want to say. But I think that it seemed like a benediction."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00932:43", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.9, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I think Discovery will be ready to display. It’s just a matter of pulling it in, situating it. The one thing we as the museum need to do is get it up on its display stands, and we do that to keep the rubber of the tires off [the] concrete. That is for long-term preservation of the tires themselves, the rubber. Not having the weight of the vehicle loaded onto the tires, we can decrease the pressure of those tires and make them last that much longer. Other than that, the exhibits design department will have a lot of work to do in creating new signage and so forth, but as far as vehicle prep it should be pretty well ready to display."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Rebecca, do you have any questions for Tony?\n\nI just have a couple. You were talking about getting all of the old paint off before you put the new paint on. Did you have to treat that surface in any way?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we used an Alodine [chromate conversion coating] process to treat it. On the payload bay doors it was a wash which required no rinsing, and on the side panels in some areas we were down to the bare metal substrate. In other areas we got it to the basic first coat of primer and it was smooth, so we didn’t feel like we had to strip right down to bare metal. We just needed a good smooth surface. The bare areas of the metal were prepped with an Alodine process before we reprimed everything. Of course everything got the epoxy primer coat prior to the topcoats."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We understand the decision was made to restore it back to how you received it and not its original paint, is that correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Ed was our lead on this. We were all pretty equal as restorers, but you have to tag somebody as the lead, so Ed got that. He dealt with those kinds of issues. I can’t really say with any authority how that decision process came about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I can see there’d be some discussion."}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00932:46", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 1.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, we used an Alodine [chromate conversion coating] process to treat it. On the payload bay doors it was a wash which required no rinsing, and on the side panels in some areas we were down to the bare metal substrate. In other areas we got it to the basic first coat of primer and it was smooth, so we didn’t feel like we had to strip right down to bare metal. We just needed a good smooth surface. The bare areas of the metal were prepped with an Alodine process before we reprimed everything. Of course everything got the epoxy primer coat prior to the topcoats."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "We understand the decision was made to restore it back to how you received it and not its original paint, is that correct?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Ed was our lead on this. We were all pretty equal as restorers, but you have to tag somebody as the lead, so Ed got that. He dealt with those kinds of issues. I can’t really say with any authority how that decision process came about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I can see there’d be some discussion."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes, absolutely. Mostly through the curator. Ed represented us on that discussion, and there may have been others involved as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When Enterprise leaves, will she have a tool bag of specially designed tools to take with her?"}]} {"block_id": "jsc-oral-history-00932:48", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes, Ed was our lead on this. We were all pretty equal as restorers, but you have to tag somebody as the lead, so Ed got that. He dealt with those kinds of issues. I can’t really say with any authority how that decision process came about."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "I can see there’d be some discussion."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh yes, absolutely. Mostly through the curator. Ed represented us on that discussion, and there may have been others involved as well."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When Enterprise leaves, will she have a tool bag of specially designed tools to take with her?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yes. We’ll offer Intrepid our knowledge, our documentation—I have outlined all of those processes step by step—the special tools that I had used. Although our mockup pods won’t have to go. We have no idea what to do with those, they have no use for us anymore. We’re donating some of the leftover paints we had and the special mixes. When we mix paint to match our simulated tile, we’re mixing it to match the faded paint. It’s unique to that, so it’s good that we can provide them that if they need to do touch-ups."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Is there anything you want to look at in your report? I think we’ve answered all the questions that I had come up with."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:1", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 38.46510793723579, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's a good question. I had a different childhood than probably many Peace Corps volunteers because I spent about half of it overseas since you had your career with USAID. So I was exposed to international living and different cultures from an early age. When I went to college, I studied international studies as well as political science. I studied abroad for a semester of my junior year, and all of those experiences left me with a feeling of continued curiosity and interest in international living and travel. So as I was nearing graduation and trying to decide what to do next, I explored a number of options."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Where did you graduate from?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I graduated from Northwestern University in the year 2000. And I, many of the options that I was looking at were ones that would involve living overseas. So in addition to applying to the Peace Corps, I applied for a Fulbright grant and I was looking into other potential fellowships and stipends for international travel and living. And Peace Corps was the first to give me an offer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right. At that point, did you speak any languages? Did you have any language skills?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I spoke Portuguese from having lived in Brazil in high school and had taken Spanish at the college level, at the high school and college level, but had sort of deviated from that quickly my sophomore year when I decided to study abroad in Russia. So I had jumped from Spanish to Russian. And then spent my first semester of my junior year abroad in Moscow, continuing to learn Russian. So I think it's fair to say that by the time I graduated, I had a sort of confused mix of Portuguese, Spanish, and Russian, none of which I would have called necessarily fluent or close to fluent at that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Russian was not a place for a Peace Corps in those days?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:3", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 40.51678659692866, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I graduated from Northwestern University in the year 2000. And I, many of the options that I was looking at were ones that would involve living overseas. So in addition to applying to the Peace Corps, I applied for a Fulbright grant and I was looking into other potential fellowships and stipends for international travel and living. And Peace Corps was the first to give me an offer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right. At that point, did you speak any languages? Did you have any language skills?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I spoke Portuguese from having lived in Brazil in high school and had taken Spanish at the college level, at the high school and college level, but had sort of deviated from that quickly my sophomore year when I decided to study abroad in Russia. So I had jumped from Spanish to Russian. And then spent my first semester of my junior year abroad in Moscow, continuing to learn Russian. So I think it's fair to say that by the time I graduated, I had a sort of confused mix of Portuguese, Spanish, and Russian, none of which I would have called necessarily fluent or close to fluent at that time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So Russian was not a place for a Peace Corps in those days?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Russia was not. But there were a number of former Soviet republics that I think did have Peace Corps programs. I remember preferencing Latin America in my application. My time in Moscow was fascinating but was a bit of a lark and had more to do with the political events that were transpiring at that time and my interest in sort of living and experiencing that in real time. And I kind of came back pretty convinced that, um, that that was not the region that I wanted to necessarily specialize in or return to anytime soon. So, yeah, I requested Latin America and I think I had probably at that point still more Spanish or better base of Spanish than Russian, even though I had been living there more recently."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And what was the process for your application and what you heard from Peace Corps?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:23", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 23.99900491274644, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "That's a good question. I don't think anybody was. I don't remember anybody being removed for behavioral issues, although there were behavioral issues, I'm sure. I think there were some people who may have been sort of held back due to language, not having demonstrated sufficient proficiency in Spanish. But I think those people were either given the option to go back or to sort of stick around for another training. Um, yeah, I think most people, I think, you know, were graduated out of training and sent to sites all across the country."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there, were there physical requirements in your training and going to be selected?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I don't recall that being something that was."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Psychological tests?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think they were evaluating us for sure. I don't remember taking any kind of formal tests in that regard, but I think they were certainly trying to make sure that we were emotionally stable. And that as much as the process of moving to a new country and, you know, learning a new language and immersing in a new culture was definitely going to be a challenge for all of us, that we had the tools we needed to be able to cope with that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And language, what were you learning? Was it just Spanish or was it also the local language?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:31", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 24.95047235596165, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think it was just a couple of weeks before we were done with the training."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how were you, how did you like what you were told?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was very excited. I, um, we had sort of, I think, ferreted out a good deal of information about the universe of sites that were available to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many environmental volunteers were there among them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think there were probably a dozen of us. Yeah. And we, you know, I think all had sort of different preferences in terms of where we wanted to be. I don't remember anybody else being terribly excited about the site that I was most interested in, which was Chisec. It was, I think, one of the most, if not the most removed site in the sense that it was pretty isolated from where other volunteers would be. It was in one of the least developed areas of the country in terms of infrastructure and poverty levels and things like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. So how were you told?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:33", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 27.72274706217961, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was very excited. I, um, we had sort of, I think, ferreted out a good deal of information about the universe of sites that were available to us."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How many environmental volunteers were there among them?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think there were probably a dozen of us. Yeah. And we, you know, I think all had sort of different preferences in terms of where we wanted to be. I don't remember anybody else being terribly excited about the site that I was most interested in, which was Chisec. It was, I think, one of the most, if not the most removed site in the sense that it was pretty isolated from where other volunteers would be. It was in one of the least developed areas of the country in terms of infrastructure and poverty levels and things like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. So how were you told?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can't recall. I think we were just, you know, maybe called in one by one to have a conversation with Flavio and Michael, our trainer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. And you said, thank you very much. And when do I go?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:35", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 30.803052291310678, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think there were probably a dozen of us. Yeah. And we, you know, I think all had sort of different preferences in terms of where we wanted to be. I don't remember anybody else being terribly excited about the site that I was most interested in, which was Chisec. It was, I think, one of the most, if not the most removed site in the sense that it was pretty isolated from where other volunteers would be. It was in one of the least developed areas of the country in terms of infrastructure and poverty levels and things like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. So how were you told?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can't recall. I think we were just, you know, maybe called in one by one to have a conversation with Flavio and Michael, our trainer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. And you said, thank you very much. And when do I go?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I was excited."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you guys have a party before you left or?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:37", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 28.67005810145631, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I can't recall. I think we were just, you know, maybe called in one by one to have a conversation with Flavio and Michael, our trainer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right. And you said, thank you very much. And when do I go?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I was excited."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you guys have a party before you left or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I'm sure we had multiple parties. Yeah. I mean, I remember the day, um, different. The day we sort of ended, um, some. I think the idea was most people, the counterparts, the local counterparts for whom, you know, volunteers would be working, were meant to come and pick them up. So my counterparts from the municipality, the municipal government of Chisec, dutifully arrived, I think a bit late. A guy named Marcellino Cucu, I think was his last name, who was one of the sort of deputy mayors, who was very short Q'eqchi' indigenous guy with about three teeth and a sort of wizened smile, arrived together with a driver, one of the chauffeurs from the municipality, which is a I later learned kind of a prestigious kind of political kickback position.\n\nAnd, um, yeah. And so I hopped in the pickup truck and made small talk. They went back to Guatemala City to run a bunch of errands and pick up a bunch of supplies and things. And it was about an eight hour drive from there. So we didn't end up arriving into Chisec until quite late."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, before we go on, had you met any other previous volunteers from Chisec?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:45", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 31.016701876933865, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So the first volunteer to go, um, I think about a year before me, was a guy by the name of Kelly Kirschner who was in the municipal development program. And I later found out that basically the idea for an environmental management volunteer in working with the municipality was Kelly's idea."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, or something he suggested, and that the municipality ultimately agreed with him on. So Kelly had been there about a year. And then only I think maybe three months before I had gotten there, a woman named Shonda Ferguson had been placed as a agricultural, I can't remember exactly what the program was called, but she was vaccinating a lot of animals. That was essentially her job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Veterinary work."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Interesting. So they were both at post at that point?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:47", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 33.35189097437096, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I mean, or something he suggested, and that the municipality ultimately agreed with him on. So Kelly had been there about a year. And then only I think maybe three months before I had gotten there, a woman named Shonda Ferguson had been placed as a agricultural, I can't remember exactly what the program was called, but she was vaccinating a lot of animals. That was essentially her job."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Veterinary work."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Interesting. So they were both at post at that point?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Kelly had been there some time and Shonda was relatively recently arrived."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So as your municipal hosts drove you to Chisec, was there a place for you to stay?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:49", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 33.72432330485662, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Yeah, exactly."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Interesting. So they were both at post at that point?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. Kelly had been there some time and Shonda was relatively recently arrived."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So as your municipal hosts drove you to Chisec, was there a place for you to stay?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. So there, they were in the midst of building this highway, it was an Inter-American Development Bank financed highway. It was being constructed by an Israeli firm called Solel Boneh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Say it a little louder."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:53", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 34.474473215872365, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. So there, they were in the midst of building this highway, it was an Inter-American Development Bank financed highway. It was being constructed by an Israeli firm called Solel Boneh."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Say it a little louder."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Solel Boneh was the name of the Israeli construction firm. It was a very tricky highway, or at least there were a couple of parts that were quite steep. Coban, the municipal capital of the Department of Alta Verapaz, sits in the highlands in the cloud forests. And Chisec, although maybe only 100, 100 and some kilometers away, is probably 3,000 feet lower in altitude. Maybe that's, maybe that's more, uh, maybe that's exaggerated. But it's significant, significantly lower. It's basically in the rainforests. And there were some very sort of tricky curvy parts of the highway that remained quite dangerous even after, in fact, maybe even more dangerous after the highway was paved. So anyway, all of this work was being done and the construction phase had advanced such that many of the construction workers were in Chisec and had taken up essentially any and all of the available housing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Chisec was a town of about 10,000 people. I would say probably 8,000 of them living in houses that did not have concrete floors. So dirt floors, thatch roof huts on top of that. And so there were very few kind of apartments available. So I, so Marcellino and the municipality had arranged a room for me in the Catholic Church, which had a series of small little apartments with rooms with bathrooms, essentially. So that's where I stayed initially. The plan was for that to be temporary, but I ended up staying there for most of my tenure as a volunteer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So to help people understand where Chisec is, from Guatemala City how would you describe it?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:61", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 43.97877338191185, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "By bus, and then once you're in Coban you would take either a bus or a little minivan to Chisec. And that was"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Further north?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Further north. And that was probably two to three hours. Again, I mean, and in fact, when I first got there, because the construction was ongoing and the road hadn't been completed, it was, could be up to four hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, so, yeah, quite, quite, quite challenging and especially hard to do if you didn't have a four wheel drive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. And if you kept going north from there, how long would it take you to get to some other place that people might know about?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:63", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 42.19863709101317, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Further north. And that was probably two to three hours. Again, I mean, and in fact, when I first got there, because the construction was ongoing and the road hadn't been completed, it was, could be up to four hours."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Wow."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, so, yeah, quite, quite, quite challenging and especially hard to do if you didn't have a four wheel drive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. And if you kept going north from there, how long would it take you to get to some other place that people might know about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, there's not much north of Chisec. You would go kind of wind around north on the road that eventually was paved all the way to Flores, Petén, which is the kind of tourist, is the capital of the Department of Petén and kind of the tourist hub. That from Chisec now with the paved road is maybe four hours, three or four hours. But back then before the paved road would have been 5 to 8 hours. There's one sort of town about the size of Chisec in between, the town of Sayaxché, which was another kind of sort of sleepy municipal town center. And a lot of small what they call aldeas or villages along the way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you're, you were greeted by the two volunteers who were already there or?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:65", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 46.88737454557018, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Well, so, yeah, quite, quite, quite challenging and especially hard to do if you didn't have a four wheel drive."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. And if you kept going north from there, how long would it take you to get to some other place that people might know about?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, there's not much north of Chisec. You would go kind of wind around north on the road that eventually was paved all the way to Flores, Petén, which is the kind of tourist, is the capital of the Department of Petén and kind of the tourist hub. That from Chisec now with the paved road is maybe four hours, three or four hours. But back then before the paved road would have been 5 to 8 hours. There's one sort of town about the size of Chisec in between, the town of Sayaxché, which was another kind of sort of sleepy municipal town center. And a lot of small what they call aldeas or villages along the way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you're, you were greeted by the two volunteers who were already there or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think eventually. I think we got in pretty late that first night. I think I remember meeting Kelly pretty soon after. Shonda was originally, I think, placed in a cooperative kind of agro-aquarian cooperative outside of the capital, so she, outside of Chisec, the municipal seat. So she wasn't living there full time initially. She later then did move into Chisec."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did settling in go in terms of your living situation and your job?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:67", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 52.09708282841131, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. I mean, there's not much north of Chisec. You would go kind of wind around north on the road that eventually was paved all the way to Flores, Petén, which is the kind of tourist, is the capital of the Department of Petén and kind of the tourist hub. That from Chisec now with the paved road is maybe four hours, three or four hours. But back then before the paved road would have been 5 to 8 hours. There's one sort of town about the size of Chisec in between, the town of Sayaxché, which was another kind of sort of sleepy municipal town center. And a lot of small what they call aldeas or villages along the way."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you're, you were greeted by the two volunteers who were already there or?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think eventually. I think we got in pretty late that first night. I think I remember meeting Kelly pretty soon after. Shonda was originally, I think, placed in a cooperative kind of agro-aquarian cooperative outside of the capital, so she, outside of Chisec, the municipal seat. So she wasn't living there full time initially. She later then did move into Chisec."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did settling in go in terms of your living situation and your job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, so the living situation was, um, it was fine. There was water, I think 2 to 3 times a week. And so had to pretty quickly get used to, you know, not flushing the toilet very often and keeping buckets of water nearby."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had your own toilet?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:69", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 55.66342536490146, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "I think eventually. I think we got in pretty late that first night. I think I remember meeting Kelly pretty soon after. Shonda was originally, I think, placed in a cooperative kind of agro-aquarian cooperative outside of the capital, so she, outside of Chisec, the municipal seat. So she wasn't living there full time initially. She later then did move into Chisec."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And how did settling in go in terms of your living situation and your job?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, so the living situation was, um, it was fine. There was water, I think 2 to 3 times a week. And so had to pretty quickly get used to, you know, not flushing the toilet very often and keeping buckets of water nearby."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "You had your own toilet?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did have my own toilet and shower. And those worked when there was water. Otherwise, you had sort of buckets of water that you could use. But you had to make sure you kept them full. You know, it's interesting, Chisec is a rain forest, so there's quite a bit of precipitation. But during the three month kind of dry season, water becomes quite precious because the topography, and this ended up becoming really fundamental, literally and figuratively to the work I did, the topography of Chisec is somewhat unique. It's this karst limestone topography where the ground is incredibly porous. And so water seeps down from the, from the ground level into aquifers that are quite deep and often inaccessible. So people needed to rely on rain catchment and other sort of ways to get access to water during the dry season in particular."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. And how did the municipality greet you? Did they have a clear idea of what you were supposed to be doing?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:83", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 9, "return_to_go": 58.44416170144831, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, um."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Really."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that was, you know, that was a kind of a splash of."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Lynched because you were seen as?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "These communities, as I later came to learn and appreciate, had been through an incredible amount of violence in the not so distant past. This was, you know, I was there in 2001 and the peace accords had been signed in 2004 [1994]. The last massacre of the civil war occurred in a community in Chisec in, uh, in 1993. So sorry, the peace accords were signed in 1994, yeah, and the last massacre in 1993. So, you know, these communities, these, the individuals in these communities, had themselves been uprooted. Many of them had family members who had died. I later found out that there were family members who had killed other people's family members within those communities or had ratted them out, you know, as guerilla sympathizers to the military or vice versa. So there were really, really complex, you know, social dynamics that I really just didn't fully understand, probably still don't fully understand.\n\nAnd the other thing I learned quickly and again became another one of the kind of foundational pieces of my experience in Guatemala was in Chisec, was that they didn't, despite having been on the land for some time, a number of generations, didn't have legal title to the land. That was something that all of the communities in the region were very sensitive to and were, you know, the first priority that they had was to get legal title to their land in order to ensure that they would not be displaced again, that their children could inherit the land from them. And so for someone from the outside to come in and all of a sudden start talking about all these resources that they had and how valuable they were and, you know, I think was, um, raised a lot of concerns."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "So you visited these three sites, one after another to start off or?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:109", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.060027652298366, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So Counterpart was only involved in the tourism stuff. So this was Idaho State as the USAID recipient working with APROBA-SANK, our local NGO, as the local employer."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "OK, yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that. So, Anthony, Tony Stock, kind of helped us develop the proposal for that and get it approved. And he ended up coming and living in Chisec for about six months and then he left and then Kelly, who had finished his Peace Corps tenure by that point and had actually gone back to Sarasota, Florida, where he was from, agreed to come back and work for about six months as the country director because Anthony's sabbatical had finished and he had to go back to teaching in Pocatello. And then after Kelly's tenure ended, I ended up taking that project on for about six months after my Peace Corps tenure had finished. And so I ended up spending about three years in Guatemala, two and one half of which were Peace Corps between the three month training, the two year deployment, and then three months of training the next batch of environmental management volunteers.\n\nI then spent six months still in Chisec but with my own pickup truck and liberation to be able to drive it, which was always something that was verboten as a Peace Corps volunteer. And upgraded from the Catholic Church for the last six months to a separate house. So that was kind of the capstone to my three years was doing that project."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you left, somebody else came on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. As a Peace Corps volunteer?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Or whatever, what happened with the?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:111", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 21.17780850255374, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So that. So, Anthony, Tony Stock, kind of helped us develop the proposal for that and get it approved. And he ended up coming and living in Chisec for about six months and then he left and then Kelly, who had finished his Peace Corps tenure by that point and had actually gone back to Sarasota, Florida, where he was from, agreed to come back and work for about six months as the country director because Anthony's sabbatical had finished and he had to go back to teaching in Pocatello. And then after Kelly's tenure ended, I ended up taking that project on for about six months after my Peace Corps tenure had finished. And so I ended up spending about three years in Guatemala, two and one half of which were Peace Corps between the three month training, the two year deployment, and then three months of training the next batch of environmental management volunteers.\n\nI then spent six months still in Chisec but with my own pickup truck and liberation to be able to drive it, which was always something that was verboten as a Peace Corps volunteer. And upgraded from the Catholic Church for the last six months to a separate house. So that was kind of the capstone to my three years was doing that project."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "When you left, somebody else came on?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. As a Peace Corps volunteer?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah. Or whatever, what happened with the?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Oh, with the land titling project?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "With the jaguar protected area."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:119", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 23.000775038185854, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The communities got title through the project. Yeah. It was under the same president, Alfonso Portillo, who was subsequently arrested and convicted of narco trafficking and murder, I think. Or at least murder, anyway."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "One of the several former presidents of Guatemala who are in jail."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, exactly. It's a long tradition."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, these are really intriguing and really valuable activities. Um, tell us a little bit more about SANK and how you got that going."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So we started with a youth group called the Movimiento Juvenil de Chisec, or MOJUCHI, that sort of Ernesto and Kelly and I kind of set up to be a place to try and kind of build leadership among some of the sort of junior high, high school age students in Chisec. Many of whom I had gotten to know because I was doing some education in the schools as part of my environmental management project. Many of whom, of course, Ernesto knew just through the local connections. And so we had projects that we did with MOJUCHI. We got a Peace Corps grant to build a playground, for example, and for three months we would wake up super early every morning with these kids and go, you know, mix our own cement and create playground equipment.\n\nAnd yeah, and so basically that kind of together with the need for a local implementer for some of these projects that I was starting up around ecotourism, um, led to the development of this NGO. And so we, you know, went through all the legal process of associating under Guatemalan law and creating bylaws and mission and all of that kind of stuff."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was there a board?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:127", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 26.491045630522557, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And it just struck me as very thoughtful and a very sweet guy. And so he ended up. becoming a partner for SANK. And as I said, I did some consulting with them after I left. And I think to this day, SANK may still be doing some work with Veterinarians Without Borders."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hmm. Interesting. Um. I do recall hearing something about unionizing the shoeshine boys."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, so that was another little project. So that was really Kelley's initiative primarily. But we worked in this municipal center that had been rebuilt, kind of white elephant project at some point, and stood kind of on a hill in the middle of the town in front of the park. And, you know, one of the few kind of big buildings in town separate from the church and the hospital. And so it was sort of a gathering, central gathering place. Um, these, I mentioned communities would come, you know, travel hours and hours with their smudged up handwritten solicitude asking for a road or a water well or whatever. And they would want to come in and see the mayor. But, you know, they'd come with their dusty boots and want to make sure they were looking their best before meeting with the concejales and the mayor.\n\nAnd so they would, there were these shoe shiners that were all little kids who would hang out and shine shoes and, you know, so they were often kind of bored and just hanging out. And so we would chat with them. And, you know, it was very notable that in a culture and community that was extremely conservative, these kids from a very young age had to learn to be very social, you know, kind of aggressive, to be able to convince people to procure their services and be sort of quick on their feet."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh huh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And so they were quite bright, but they were also obviously not in school because they were there shining shoes. And so they were kind of the poorest of the poor from some of the poorest of the poor families."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How old would they be, do you think?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:145", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 19.712965646797667, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Amy."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "A-N-D-I-E?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Amy. A-M-Y."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Amy Olson."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yep, who also kind of became involved in a number of these projects. And then of course, Kelly came back to run the Idaho State Project. So we had kind of a big group after a while. And then when I left, I trained the group of incoming PCVs, environmental management PCVs, as I departed. And then one of them became my replacement in Chisec, which was great. And then we actually had a second environmental management volunteer who we put in a nearby community to work with some of these communities that were getting land title. So there ended up being quite a few Peace Corps volunteers in the region.\n\nAnd one of the volunteers who later came in, uh, was a woman by the name of Megan Ybarra, who ended up coming back to the region to do her PhD fieldwork in anthropology around land conflicts, including studying the Candelaria conflict. And she's the one who sort of looped me back into the situation with Arturo and the ongoing conflict there. And she's now a professor of sociology at University of Washington in Seattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh my. Have you read her dissertation?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:147", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 6, "return_to_go": 21.903295163108517, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Amy. A-M-Y."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Amy Olson."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yep, who also kind of became involved in a number of these projects. And then of course, Kelly came back to run the Idaho State Project. So we had kind of a big group after a while. And then when I left, I trained the group of incoming PCVs, environmental management PCVs, as I departed. And then one of them became my replacement in Chisec, which was great. And then we actually had a second environmental management volunteer who we put in a nearby community to work with some of these communities that were getting land title. So there ended up being quite a few Peace Corps volunteers in the region.\n\nAnd one of the volunteers who later came in, uh, was a woman by the name of Megan Ybarra, who ended up coming back to the region to do her PhD fieldwork in anthropology around land conflicts, including studying the Candelaria conflict. And she's the one who sort of looped me back into the situation with Arturo and the ongoing conflict there. And she's now a professor of sociology at University of Washington in Seattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh my. Have you read her dissertation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did read a version of it, I believe, back in the day because, yeah, she had, she had interviewed me for it and had said it's a. It became part of a broader book that she has since published."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah. Uh huh."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:149", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 5, "return_to_go": 17.670327959009462, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yep, who also kind of became involved in a number of these projects. And then of course, Kelly came back to run the Idaho State Project. So we had kind of a big group after a while. And then when I left, I trained the group of incoming PCVs, environmental management PCVs, as I departed. And then one of them became my replacement in Chisec, which was great. And then we actually had a second environmental management volunteer who we put in a nearby community to work with some of these communities that were getting land title. So there ended up being quite a few Peace Corps volunteers in the region.\n\nAnd one of the volunteers who later came in, uh, was a woman by the name of Megan Ybarra, who ended up coming back to the region to do her PhD fieldwork in anthropology around land conflicts, including studying the Candelaria conflict. And she's the one who sort of looped me back into the situation with Arturo and the ongoing conflict there. And she's now a professor of sociology at University of Washington in Seattle."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh my. Have you read her dissertation?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I did read a version of it, I believe, back in the day because, yeah, she had, she had interviewed me for it and had said it's a. It became part of a broader book that she has since published."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Ah. Uh huh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. There's a number of folks who I met through that period of time who are still involved in the region. Another guy, Brent Woodfield [Woodfill], was one of the archeologists working with Vanderbilt around Cancuén, specializing in cave archeology, who's now a professor at Woodford [Winthrop] University in North [South] Carolina. So yeah, there continue to be a number of folks from that period who are still engaged in such."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh huh. Interesting. Very interesting. Anything further about any of the other volunteers in the area? Did you have much contact with any other volunteers or were you pretty much in your own little world there?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:157", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 17.08935826704689, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It moved to Antigua, I think, or maybe Milpas Altas, I'm not sure. But in any event, it's, you wouldn't want to spend much time in Guatemala City if you didn't have to. So we would all go to Antigua and hang out there and go out to the bars and stuff. So, you know, I, I wasn't totally disconnected from my cohort and from other volunteers, but I was probably more removed than most."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh huh. Yeah. When you were about to leave you, they asked you to work on the training program for the next group."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you, did you leave and go back to the States and then come back to Guatemala? Did you just stay around? How did that work?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I think I stayed. I did go back to the States at one point because I had to. I remember I had to go to Pocatello, Idaho, to kind of get all my HR paperwork done. I remember also that that visit also served for Tony to try and convince me to become a, you know, to apply to become a PhD student in cultural anthropology there which I, you know, was, there were some things that were attractive about that. But ultimately, I didn't think I had the attention span for doctoral work. So I ended up applying to law school from Chisec. And you know, and then ended up going after I, after I got back but."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Did you do the LSAT again?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:171", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 22.0928408004461, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Was it just once?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Kit came down. I had a number of visitors. So you guys came down. It was Christmas, I think."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Christmas, yep."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One year. And then we went up to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Killed the turkeys."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:175", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 17.028198519069257, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "One year. And then we went up to."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Killed the turkeys."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tikal. We killed some chickens, I think, and then went up to Tikal and then went over to Belize. That was a nice trip. And then Kate had come down separately."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sister Kate."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My sister, who had just graduated from college herself and came down to take some language classes and we traveled a bit. My cousin Rick came down at one point. A number of friends, my friend Byron Carr came down and happened to be there during 9/11, so was stuck there for a little bit. Um. Yeah. So we had a number of visitors, a group from Northwestern actually. Byron, who had been two years younger than me at Northwestern, had such a kind of impactful experience that he went back and helped recruit a group from Northwestern that came down and worked with me and with SANK as kind of a mission trip, so that was great.\n\nWe had another person who was from Northwestern who ended up coming down to work with us for a little while, a guy named Jeff Seelbach, who was a radio television film student, and he came to help us because we were trying to create a local community television station. This was another sort of side project of ours and we had gotten a grant from Apple and gotten some equipment. And he helped us kind of get it set up and train kids in how to video and edit and stuff like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that really worked for a while."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:177", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 18.920220576743617, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Tikal. We killed some chickens, I think, and then went up to Tikal and then went over to Belize. That was a nice trip. And then Kate had come down separately."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Sister Kate."}, {"role": "user", "content": "My sister, who had just graduated from college herself and came down to take some language classes and we traveled a bit. My cousin Rick came down at one point. A number of friends, my friend Byron Carr came down and happened to be there during 9/11, so was stuck there for a little bit. Um. Yeah. So we had a number of visitors, a group from Northwestern actually. Byron, who had been two years younger than me at Northwestern, had such a kind of impactful experience that he went back and helped recruit a group from Northwestern that came down and worked with me and with SANK as kind of a mission trip, so that was great.\n\nWe had another person who was from Northwestern who ended up coming down to work with us for a little while, a guy named Jeff Seelbach, who was a radio television film student, and he came to help us because we were trying to create a local community television station. This was another sort of side project of ours and we had gotten a grant from Apple and gotten some equipment. And he helped us kind of get it set up and train kids in how to video and edit and stuff like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And that really worked for a while."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It worked for a little while. So yeah, there were a number of outside visitors who came in and I would, you know, if I needed a break, I could always go to Coban or go into Antigua. So I don't, I don't remember feeling too isolated, even though I was physically somewhat isolated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was your health during all this period?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:181", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 18.420025403387182, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "It worked for a little while. So yeah, there were a number of outside visitors who came in and I would, you know, if I needed a break, I could always go to Coban or go into Antigua. So I don't, I don't remember feeling too isolated, even though I was physically somewhat isolated."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "How was your health during all this period?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "I was probably at my most physically fit in terms of, you know, I was living in a rainforest. It was hotter. It was very hot. I didn't do a ton of physical manual labor because I was working in the municipality. But between playing soccer in the evenings, the little pickup games and projects like this playground project or the trail building projects that we would have that I always wanted to not just supervise but be there and actually help work on. I got a lot of exercise. The only hiccups were dengue fever, which I got twice, I believe, although in neither case were they able to confirm it through blood tests. But that's fairly typical with dengue. The second time was the most serious. And I was fortunate because I had actually traveled into Guatemala City before the fever manifested.\n\nI was actually there to pick up Jeff Seelbach, who I just mentioned. And I was staying with Brian Ruder, my USAID friend. And I woke up that morning just feeling terrible and I had a really high fever and I was vomiting and diarrhea. So Brian helped me get to the local private hospital, which is where the Peace Corps volunteers would go. And fortunately, I think, picked up Jeff and kind of gave him a place to sleep for a couple of nights while I was in the hospital. But I was there with a 104 degree fever for, I think I was in the hospital for three days, maybe four."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In Guatemala City?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In Guatemala City."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Was it a private hospital, government hospital?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:189", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 21.978395676554157, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "The other time, I was also in Guatemala City. Fortunately, I didn't have to be hospitalized but had sort of similar symptoms. It wasn't quite as bad. But it was very familiar when it happened the second time."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Hmm. Well, no other major health problems?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no other major health problems. I mean, somewhat miraculous for the kind of amount of caves that I was stuffing myself into and kind of cliffs that we were scrambling down. I never had any kind of major physical, you know, I didn't break any bones or twisted ankles or anything like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And nothing has popped up since you left Guatemala and resulting from Guatemala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think so. You know, and I know Kelly actually has since had malaria, which he never knew he had in Guatemala. He got it and probably just dismissed it as a fever of some sort and, you know, kind of sweated it out. And then, you know, eventually after coming back to Sarasota, got very, very sick and fortunately thought to tell the doctors that he had lived for a while in a malarial area. And they diagnosed it as malaria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. You mentioned 9/11. It would just be interesting. How did you learn about 9/11?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:191", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 4, "return_to_go": 21.087106307282397, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, no other major health problems. I mean, somewhat miraculous for the kind of amount of caves that I was stuffing myself into and kind of cliffs that we were scrambling down. I never had any kind of major physical, you know, I didn't break any bones or twisted ankles or anything like that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And nothing has popped up since you left Guatemala and resulting from Guatemala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "No, I don't think so. You know, and I know Kelly actually has since had malaria, which he never knew he had in Guatemala. He got it and probably just dismissed it as a fever of some sort and, you know, kind of sweated it out. And then, you know, eventually after coming back to Sarasota, got very, very sick and fortunately thought to tell the doctors that he had lived for a while in a malarial area. And they diagnosed it as malaria."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Mm hmm. You mentioned 9/11. It would just be interesting. How did you learn about 9/11?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, so I was mentioning my friend Byron Carr was visiting at that time and September 11th happens to be my birthday. So that morning at about 5:00 in the morning, he, Byron, was staying with me in my little Catholic Church room. He and I were both literally kind of jumped out of bed at the sound of fireworks, sort of cascading in the narrow hallway outside of my door. Because the youth group, the MOJUCHI youth group kids had come to serenade me, which is a kind of customary thing to do on your birthday. So we awoke to a start. And then went out and, you know, had a little had some cake with the kids and then kind of went back to sleep or at least to bed for a little bit. And then I remember, you know, it was probably 8:00 in the morning or so, we were kind of making our way up from my, from the church to the municipal building. And somebody sort of came up and said, did you hear all the buildings are falling?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Some Guatemalan friends?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:201", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 23.5431697527179, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah. So there was. So I think initially it was I would go into Coban once a week for my language classes or whatever and I would just do my email at an internet cafe while I was there."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "They had an internet cafe there?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there there was. And there were these one or two private satellite phones, basically entrepreneurs in Chisec who you could pay however many quetzales per minute and make calls. I don't know that we made international calls. I remember using that to talk to some other Peace Corps volunteers within the country. But eventually sort of towards the middle of my time there, USAID actually funded the installation of a satellite internet cafe that became kind of a. You could go there and pay per hour to log on. And the connection was pretty spotty because if it was cloudy, you didn't get signal. And even if it was clear, it was still satellite upload speeds, which were pretty slow. And I remember being very frustrated, completing my law school application from there because it would constantly fail to upload and then delete."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh my gosh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And I'd have to rewrite it all and just spend hours and hours at one point doing that. And then towards the end of my time, cell phone towers came in. And so you could do these prepaid cell phone plans. And so I had a cheap, so I think I had a cell phone pretty much from when I got there because I, you know, in the training center, we had cell signal there. And even when I would go to Coban, I would have a cell signal and I could get calls for free, including international calls. Making calls, of course, you had to pay for the minutes and then if it was international, you'd have to pay above and beyond that."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And who knew you were going to get a call?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:233", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 1, "return_to_go": 6.7436347780000006, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And just anecdotally, including from Arturo, the guy from the community near Candelaria who's here now, it's just become much more common. And I think it's partly that continuous population pressure. It's partly the fact that, um, this is something new from when I was there. Apparently there's been a huge influx of African palm plantations. So basically large industrial."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Oh, really?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Palm, plantation palm oil companies have come in and bought up a lot of this land, again from communities, some of whom had title, some who didn't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then created these big palm plantations. And the people, you know, sell the land because they see this big windfall of cash, but they don't think about what they're going to do next. And they might be promised, you know, a seasonal labor job on the palm plantation, but you're making minimum wage and it's only certain number of hours a week for certain months of the year. And it's not enough to support a family. And so quickly, people realize that they can't sustain themselves and they need to figure out Plan B, so it's a real challenging situation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there Peace Corps volunteers still in Guatemala?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:235", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 3, "return_to_go": 6.381816420000001, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Palm, plantation palm oil companies have come in and bought up a lot of this land, again from communities, some of whom had title, some who didn't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Right."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then created these big palm plantations. And the people, you know, sell the land because they see this big windfall of cash, but they don't think about what they're going to do next. And they might be promised, you know, a seasonal labor job on the palm plantation, but you're making minimum wage and it's only certain number of hours a week for certain months of the year. And it's not enough to support a family. And so quickly, people realize that they can't sustain themselves and they need to figure out Plan B, so it's a real challenging situation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there Peace Corps volunteers still in Guatemala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I believe so. I mean, I'm certain there are still in Guatemala. I don't know for sure about Chisec. But I guess I would be surprised if there weren't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you ever, in other RPCV gatherings of Guatemala volunteers, you ever participated?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:237", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.7575738000000007, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "And then created these big palm plantations. And the people, you know, sell the land because they see this big windfall of cash, but they don't think about what they're going to do next. And they might be promised, you know, a seasonal labor job on the palm plantation, but you're making minimum wage and it's only certain number of hours a week for certain months of the year. And it's not enough to support a family. And so quickly, people realize that they can't sustain themselves and they need to figure out Plan B, so it's a real challenging situation."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Are there Peace Corps volunteers still in Guatemala?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, I believe so. I mean, I'm certain there are still in Guatemala. I don't know for sure about Chisec. But I guess I would be surprised if there weren't."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "And do you ever, in other RPCV gatherings of Guatemala volunteers, you ever participated?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "Yeah, there are occasionally. I mean, I think I'm in. I think if I was on Facebook more, I would probably be more aware of. There was for a while. I remember when I first came back, before I went to law school, there was a number of folks from my cohort who came back to D.C. looking for jobs and trying to figure out what was next. And then once I went to law school and kind of got disconnected from that community, there were a few people who I would occasionally still be in touch with. Shonda, for example, lives in Hagerstown. So she's not immediately in the area, but not too far away. But I have not I don't regularly connect with RPCVs from Guatemala."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "All right. Well, this has been, I think, a fascinating interview. And do you have any things that we, that you'd like to add?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:245", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 3.258, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Because you don't want the waste to be concentrated and then seeping into these underground aquifers which are all interconnected in different ways."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, you know, realized this kind of back of the envelope feasibility study that that wasn't going to be something that the municipality is going to be affording anytime soon. Um. So but one thing we did do that kind of stemmed out of that was I got in touch with the University of San Carlos, which is a university system in Guatemala and some people there who were interested in studying karst from the geology department. And we ended up putting together a symposium in Coban on water and waste management in karst ecosystems. And we brought, there were people who came from Costa Rica and from Guatemala City. And yeah, it was just a really random thing that I ended up basically putting together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh huh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Together with this one professor. And it was like a really cool meeting. And, you know, I think it really, I hope that it sort of helped kind of highlight the need to really think this through from a geology perspective, kind of ecosystem perspective. So yeah, so that was kind of another little random thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know whether what exists now in terms of?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:247", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 3.62, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "So, you know, realized this kind of back of the envelope feasibility study that that wasn't going to be something that the municipality is going to be affording anytime soon. Um. So but one thing we did do that kind of stemmed out of that was I got in touch with the University of San Carlos, which is a university system in Guatemala and some people there who were interested in studying karst from the geology department. And we ended up putting together a symposium in Coban on water and waste management in karst ecosystems. And we brought, there were people who came from Costa Rica and from Guatemala City. And yeah, it was just a really random thing that I ended up basically putting together."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Uh huh."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Together with this one professor. And it was like a really cool meeting. And, you know, I think it really, I hope that it sort of helped kind of highlight the need to really think this through from a geology perspective, kind of ecosystem perspective. So yeah, so that was kind of another little random thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know whether what exists now in terms of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of waste management?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In karst areas?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:249", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 1.8, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Together with this one professor. And it was like a really cool meeting. And, you know, I think it really, I hope that it sort of helped kind of highlight the need to really think this through from a geology perspective, kind of ecosystem perspective. So yeah, so that was kind of another little random thing."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Do you know whether what exists now in terms of?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of waste management?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In karst areas?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I don't. You know, I mean, you know, Florida is very karstic. Cuba is karstic. There are a number of areas that kind of have karst topography. So there are solutions out there that have been developed. But whether they are appropriate for, you know, this kind of municipal budget is, I think, not clear, or certainly wasn't clear when I was there. So, yeah. I don't, you know, I don't, I don't know what, if anything, has come out of the University of San Carlos Geology Department in terms of whether they've continued doing any work on this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it's amazing. It's amazing how things, sort of one thing leads to another. And if you're active and aggressive and find the right people. Um, no Mayan ruins in Chisec?"}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:251", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 2, "return_to_go": 2.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "In terms of waste management?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "In karst areas?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I don't. You know, I mean, you know, Florida is very karstic. Cuba is karstic. There are a number of areas that kind of have karst topography. So there are solutions out there that have been developed. But whether they are appropriate for, you know, this kind of municipal budget is, I think, not clear, or certainly wasn't clear when I was there. So, yeah. I don't, you know, I don't, I don't know what, if anything, has come out of the University of San Carlos Geology Department in terms of whether they've continued doing any work on this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it's amazing. It's amazing how things, sort of one thing leads to another. And if you're active and aggressive and find the right people. Um, no Mayan ruins in Chisec?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the town center?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, or around it."}]} {"block_id": "returned-peace-corps-volunteers-00124:253", "domain": "oral_history", "factual_novelty_score": 0, "return_to_go": 0.0, "messages": [{"role": "system", "content": "Act as an information elicitation agent for oral history."}, {"role": "user", "content": "You know, I don't. You know, I mean, you know, Florida is very karstic. Cuba is karstic. There are a number of areas that kind of have karst topography. So there are solutions out there that have been developed. But whether they are appropriate for, you know, this kind of municipal budget is, I think, not clear, or certainly wasn't clear when I was there. So, yeah. I don't, you know, I don't, I don't know what, if anything, has come out of the University of San Carlos Geology Department in terms of whether they've continued doing any work on this."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, it's amazing. It's amazing how things, sort of one thing leads to another. And if you're active and aggressive and find the right people. Um, no Mayan ruins in Chisec?"}, {"role": "user", "content": "In the town center?"}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Yeah, or around it."}, {"role": "user", "content": "Um, there were plenty of Mayan ruins. Yeah, but it says 22 minutes which I'm not, we've definitely been talking for longer than that. Yeah. I mean, there were plenty of ruins, I don't think a ton of in Chisec itself, but just outside, I mean, they were literally everywhere. I mean, you could basically just be driving and you would see mounds. I mean, by the time I was done, I'd spent enough time with archeologists that you could kind of you'd be like, oh, that's that. That is, that was a building that had now just looks like a little hill. But that hill doesn't make sense here topological, topographically. That's a settlement."}, {"role": "assistant", "content": "Well, thank you, Jason. It's been a great interview and I appreciate your taking the time to do it."}]}