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+ Envious of religious people Sometimes i envy religious people. Their life purpose already sorted out, all morality question is done for them, they are more comfortable with idea of dying. And they probably handle life stresses better like losing a loved one. What do you guys think, how would an atheist should live their life, search for meaning, become happy, and deal with idea of death.
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+ Spirituality without religion or superstition Do you guys think that someone can be spiritual without believing in any supernatural being superstition. I'm now and i left religion when i was probably , and never looked back. These days I'm experiencing some difficult times that caused me to have both uncontrollable anxiety and debilitating depression. During the period of my atheism until now i only focused what's wrong with religion or faith based ideology and how it harms both the individual and society as whole. My previous religion was islam and it basically poisons everything it touched. Nowadays i miss some positive aspects of the religion that was blind to me before like the comforting belief of supernatural being who cares about my existance and well being i don't have good social support system from family and friends, having faith that things will get better despite what it's in front of in life. I became more interested in secular buddhism the only religion that i found was acceptable and didn't require you to believe in anything supernatural secular spirituality like waking up book from sam harris and mindfulness. TLDR do you believe that you need some spirituality to go through difficult time in your life? Like death of a loved one, diagnosed with cancer with low survival rate, or very stressful time like losing a job or losing all your savings. If not what would you do?
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+ 27m graduate from med school, trying to finish license exam in the US. DM me if u feel like it
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+ DM me if you r free
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+ People like the spiritual aspect of the religion they grew up to. even if they know it's literally not true, i think it's human instinct to want that, very similar to christians who say they believe in jesus but not the church.
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+ I used to say this but i feel like this is not how most people think. All people including you and me are not very rational, we like the idea of being rational and logical and I'm control of our emotion, but deep down emotion thought comes first rational thought comes second. That's why sometimes even open minded very tolerant highly educated liberal don't get over stereotypes of let's say crime and race. They see it in the media, both their parents avoid certain type of people, their friends is doing it, even though they changed their mind and moved on, their first instinct is fear and it will happen for a while until they are comfortable. The more i read about psychology the less i believe in free will. We are still tribalistic animals dominated by emotion, we use rstionalism to justify what we feal. I used to believe criticism is the way to go, you have to point out what's true and what's ficitonal this is how u win a debate, but in the mean time u will lose a valuable ally. Nobody knows what actually happened during first years of islam, we have little historical evidence, but all religions have both progressiveliberalrationalists interpretation vs conservativetraditionalists interpretation both are biased obviously. Take the progressive side and make it a propaganda machine, repeat it over and over and over again there you will form another tribe that compete against the conservative salafists, there u have democracy. Islam is true freedom, true democracy true progressive. Mohammed is the true feminist, true liberator. Are these true? Who the hell knows. But this is how u win people. Use evidence and rational thought u win the debate, use emotional speech u win people. This is how apple sells their ipads, nazi gain influnce, president uniting his country, political party gain voters. Is it True or untrue? doesn't matter, it's the pragmatic and works.
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+ Historically speaking majority of religions was founded by biased people that came that came after them, and mostly got mixed with cultural tradition. We truly don't know what actually islam or christianity it is. All religions have conservative and progressive. Both are biased there's no really way of knowing what actually happened. What we call history today only was practiced . Before that they used to mix facts with cultural tradition, folklore stories and some teaching from other religions, there are plenty of evidence. Not all religions are the same monotheistic abrahamic religions are known to be intolerant, indian religion i find are more tolerant, either Polytheistic who tolerate each other, or atheist very open to interpertation, don't mind reform, mostly way of life and you can practice is without believing the supernatural. I don't have religion but i will would encourage the progressive wing over the traditionalist.
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+ Lol imagine being atheist in muslim majority country, you will appreciate your people. You have it better than me. LoL It's capital punishment where I live, if i said anything i will lose my family my money my freedom father inheritance, custody of my child, forced to divorce my wife, will be given days or else my head will be decapitated publicly by a sword. Even with all that i still care about them even though they probably will hate me and see me as the devil if i come out as atheist the most evil label you can wear. But i try to not be as horrible as they are, if i hate them because of their religion I'm not really different than them. not just religion but culture, tradition.. etc shape people behavior and the way people think. Humans truly don't have free will, everyone including me and you are controlled subconsciously by either culture, our past religion, emotion, tradition, Morality of our time.. etc. I see my fellow humans more as a victims to their religion more than actually evil people.
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+ 27m, moved to the US away from my home country, would love to chat
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+ 27m, live in the US away from my home country
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+ 27m i have the same interest
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+ 27m live, live in the us drop by anytime
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+ male medical student live in the US
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+ I know it's hard, honestly meditation helped me especially if i did it for hours. Anxiety and depression are caused by life circumstances and what makes it worse is negative pessimistic self talk. Try to break these chain of thoughts by focusing on the present, these thoughts are really not your own they are product of your subconscious. The more you listen to it the more it drags you down.
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+ I'm genuinely interested in these subjects, I'm doing it whenever i feel bored from studying. I thought maybe if i had a certificate i will show them that i actually care about what I'm doing.
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+ Money indeed does improve well being, but beyond necessities it doesn't improve as much.
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+ The best thing that worked for me long term was meditation, there are ton of music in youtube choose one. Try not to move just focus on the music, if a thought came up that's ok let it go and return to the music. Meditate also for when you wake in the morning but this time do it for mints do it while you smile even if you dont feel like, that will send signal to your brain to be happy. There are tons of meditation apps for music, also there's something called yoga nidra look it up.
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+ You are welcome, the Application might open in October like what happened this year. Who knows, we have to wait and see.
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+ They are saying now they are going to delay the score for step
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+ True, when i wrote this i remembered the concept of seeing your loved ones again heavens. But i forgot the whole thing about the hell and torture.
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+ I don't have much knowledge about christianity, i grew up Muslim. We don't have the concept of original sin.
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+ Oh yeah i forgot about the bad part lol, i only remembered the good part, i know it sounds childish but knowing someone cares about u when u got no one is good feeling.
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+ Agnosticatheist but I'm finding lots of wisdom in buddhism if you interpret the text secularly. Lots of wisdom in a lot of eastren religions
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+ I think they genuinely have good intentions, they don't want to normalize discrimination against minority. So they can get integrated easily and have moderate views when they are minority.
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+ Most Muslim countries have death sentence for apostates, but rarely used, they usually pressure you into conforming until u give up, no inheritance can't married can't get custody of ur kids. Most who say that in public, are going to back down from what they've said. It's barbaric but even Muslim have hard time enforcing it.
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+ Saudi religious scholars used to debate in the 1960s whether or not electricity is considered magic, cuz magic is prohibited under islam.
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+ People still adhere to religion for many reason, could be social ties, spiritual experience, afraid of nihlism.. etc
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+ The 2nd and third generation of royal families of gulf region are more liberal and secular than many believe, many lived and experinced westren lifestyle when they were young, this good example that monarchy is good the middle east, make people accepting of secular liberal lifestyle, that will make them easier to accept secular values when time comes to democratize government institution, king of egypt had the same vision before he was overthown by socialist military dictator 1950s and they worse of since then.
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+ of human body is made of chemical elements, life and death is a transitional , You don't start or cease to exist, you are just become something else i guess.
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+ The ruling family of the gulf region had always lived in a secular lifestyle, and believing in secular values, and not really following their religion, it was just a matter of time and technicalities, there were have picked by the British before their independence for that reason, not shocking.
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+ Tremendous peace tremendous tranquility, bigly
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+ I feel like i don't get deel unless it's mints but i usually do it for mints
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+ Wait how many hours did you meditate per day? And didn't you feel bored, what kept u motivated?, Also i feel like meditation can be great help but i always feel bored and want to get distracted instead, didn't you feel the same?
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+ I'm exmuslim and most of our history was dominated by war, conquest, slavery, caliphates who had sex slaves at one time, lol. We have less self guilt and moral perfectionism. But after my slow realization of its falsehood i started to feel more sympathetic to my fellow humans, i no longer divide people into our team and theirs. I no longer feel guilty of not converting that someone who i respected to save him from being tourtured to infinity. I can't describe how much hate I was taught in school, holy text or religious teaching. After leaving religion I only have respect and unconditional love to all my fellow humans, acceptaning them as they are gay,lesbian, bi, white, blue, black, muslim, christians, buddhist or whatever. I only see a fellow ape, a brothersister in humanity, i see less labels and more common grounds.
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+ Me too i got interested in eastern philosophyreligion, especially after listening to the art of happiness, the power of now, waking up, and zen mind beginner's mind audiobooks. I feel like there's a great deal of wisdom in eastern philosophy that can be taken in a secular way without any superstition especially buddhism and daoism.
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+ Exactly i feel less judgmental towards myself and others, i feel less guilty and more accepting of my mistakes and shortcomings, i have never felt more liberated.
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+ Probably that's why depression cause loss of short term memory, hippocampus is region responsible for that, i think i will give it a try, thanks for the advice
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+ Lol i guess I have specific definition for spirituality, it's more like feeling peace of mind, tranquility, being in the present and appreciating the curent moment without judgement and total acceptance without superstition obviously.
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+ IMO religion was the original natural antidepressants had positive rule in keeping the community together especially during difficult times. but with time it became organized, tyranicalauthoritarian, it gave unchecked power to some over the other, and when there's unequal power between two individuals there's always chance for abuse. I feel like humanity should get back to that original purpose of religion without having faith to any superstition stuff, and not giving authority to anybody over anyone, while maintaining the positive aspect of it like teaching about the importance of being altruisticempathetic to those less fortunate and teaching people to accept unfortunate events that happened to them through meditationprayers.
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+ I'm very private person and don't feel like talking about my problems with a starngertherapist, Im trying other ways to stay positive like eating healthy, exercising and daily meditation, before i use drugs, thanks for your advice anyways.
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+ You probably right, acceptance is the most mature way to deal with difficult situation.
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+ How did you cope with losing your parents knowing that you probably will never see them again. I don't think i will go back to religion just because of that reason, I'm not in that situation just yet but I'm constantly thinking of how will i cope with it.
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+ When i left religion i probably lost that good feeling of being loved or cared for by a benevolent being, but i also think im still better off without him because i no linger feel judge or ashamed for enjoying something benign that doesn't hurt anyone. also now i know that I'm good person because when i do something altruistic im not expecting a reward from anybody.
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+ People, living being, all things. It's probably similar to the feeling of benevolence or mutual love between you and your partner, SO, your sondaughter. I guess this is spirituality to me.
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+ I guess buddhism use spiritual experience for what happens to an individual during deep meditation exercise, according to those people you lose your sense of self and feel connected, love and empathy for people and all living being that surround you. That experience can be triggered using drugs probably MDMA or psilocybin.
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+ Im probably confusing of being mindful and spiritual, my bad, it's more like being in the present moment and accepting my difficult situation no matter how bad it is and learning to let it go.
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+ I guess im using spirituality the wrong way, by spirituality i dont mean anything superstition or metaphysical. Its more like being mindful of the present moment and accepting whatever your current situation.
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+ The experience of being connecting to something greater than yourself like the physical universe for example.
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+ Unlike christianty which made a lot of compromise with science, like giving up on creationism, and literal interpretation of holy text. Islam and most Muslim scholars is doubling down on it and don't accept the evidence. Also they still believe that it's literal word of god, written in arabic without using any foreign words, doesn't have mistakes, doesn't have grammatical mistakes, very clear instructions, and does not need any more interpretation other than what Muslim scholars did in the 10th century. Obviously all the above are wrong, the text is filled with mistakes and mistakes almost grammatical errors and one calculation error "inheritance distribution", used many foreign words like syriac, hebrew, aramiac and farsi, of the text is ambiguous. And many laws in hadith that is incompatible with modern world.
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+ These days while going through depression and anxiety sometimes i feel like i wish i had more faith and more spirituality, at least it made me a little bit more confident about the future, and relieve my anxiety. But i can't have faith with doubts.
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+ book called the art of happiness, highly recommend it. then i got book called zen mind beginners mind.
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+ I tried insight timer, they give you off if it's your birthday, just try their free online course.
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+ Sometimes i view it as a challenge to my mindfulness
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+ Yeah uworld made me not confidant and trained me to overthink unlike nbme which i feel it test common sense more
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+ How do you compare nbme to the other ones like uworld qbank or nbme ?
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+ Yeah kinda agree, i got on UWSA1 and on nbme before uworld and ! On nbme although i took it way after uworld i don't know what happened
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+ What do you mean nbme curve sucked? Too harsh or too generous?
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+ Did you take ? How do you compare them? Were they same difficulty? And did they represent the difficulty of the exam?
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+ Done of it It's basically a glorified flash card of facts on FA, i recommend going over FA uworld notes more than doing rx q
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+ I think NBNE UWSA2 will answer that q, just do your best
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+ I had experience with both although i didn't finish zank only biochem, basic path, immun and derm, anki has much better soace repettion algorithm and doesn't need the internet, where flash facts had terrible algorithm if you put too many cardsband needs internet. I wish i used anki sooner
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+ If you have fa18 these are changes for
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+ I see so more like uworld? I took and i think most q were straight forward, no thinking like uworld
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+ If you did well on the new ones then it won't benefit you much. if you didn't then it'll wreck your confidence, so maybe no?
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+ Yeah i had the same feeling, and when i feel confident about a block i do terribly. When im not i do really well, It's probably confidance not knowledge issue.
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+ I finished of Rx honestly it didn't help much, it's basically glorified flash card of first aid. I would use that time to go over fa and then straight to uworld. I had a lot of friends who didn't recommend kaplan either
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+ Off topic but How do you compare vs ?. I didn't take either
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+ I don't recommend it, it Helps you memorize FA but won't replace it, especially for pharm where their videos were based on FA2015 and missing Ton of stuff.
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+ I think he meant this one
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+ I use this instead Highly recommend it, this is not sponsored advertisement Most of the time caffeine exacerbate my anxiety, having theanine tames it lol
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+ Honestly i don't think it matter cuz if the exam is hard for you then is hard for everyone. If you did well on assessments like NBME UWSA2 you will do well in the exam. I finished uworld and im on the 2nd run, and i can tell you my score didn't improve at the end of my first run cuz i didn't study FA with it concepts didn't repeat. But also that doesnt matter cuz i considered uworld as another source of learning just like FA
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+ You can download it offline Google them
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+ to , UWSA is very predictive
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+ I don't think you need a review course if you're getting below average in NBME you have problem with memorization especially FA, kaplan or other review course won't help you Beyond what you would know in UFAP, ive read a couple of kaplan books and i think most of what i learned is useless except Biochemistry and genetics cuz it wasn't taught well in my school.
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+ Awesome, i had a fried who took the exam and had very similar experience to yours, BTW did you had any derma pictures? CT xray? Micro pictures? Histology?
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+ I'm betting your score will be between UWSA2 and NBME18 as i heard most people fall between these two, anyhow post your experience here if you done with exam.
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+ Review the most forgettable topic, this list might help