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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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isn't something you can measure by this one number
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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or some overall goodness.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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No, no.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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There are some people who are more better at this.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Some people are better than that.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Right now we have machines that are much better than us
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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at some very narrow tasks like multiplying large numbers
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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fast, memorizing large databases, playing chess
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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playing go and soon driving cars.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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But there's still no machine that can match
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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a human child in general intelligence
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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but artificial general intelligence, AGI
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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the name of your course, of course
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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that is by its very definition, the quest
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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to build a machine that can do everything
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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as well as we can.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So the old Holy grail of AI from back to its inception
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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in the sixties, if that ever happens, of course
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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I think it's going to be the biggest transition
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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in the history of life on earth
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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but it doesn't necessarily have to wait the big impact
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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until machines are better than us at knitting
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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that the really big change doesn't come exactly
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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at the moment they're better than us at everything.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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The really big change comes first
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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there are big changes when they start becoming better
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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at us at doing most of the jobs that we do
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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because that takes away much of the demand
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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for human labor.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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And then the really whopping change comes
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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when they become better than us at AI research, right?
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Because right now the timescale of AI research
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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is limited by the human research and development cycle
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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of years typically, you know
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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how long does it take from one release of some software
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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or iPhone or whatever to the next?
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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But once Google can replace 40,000 engineers
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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by 40,000 equivalent pieces of software or whatever
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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but then there's no reason that has to be years
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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it can be in principle much faster
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and the timescale of future progress in AI
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and all of science and technology will be driven
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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by machines, not humans.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So it's this simple point which gives right
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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this incredibly fun controversy
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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about whether there can be intelligence explosion
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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so called singularity as Werner Vinge called it.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Now the idea is articulated by I.J. Good
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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is obviously way back fifties
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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but you can see Alan Turing
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and others thought about it even earlier.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So you asked me what exactly would I define
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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human level intelligence, yeah.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So the glib answer is to say something
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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which is better than us at all cognitive tasks
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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with a better than any human at all cognitive tasks
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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but the really interesting bar
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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I think goes a little bit lower than that actually.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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It's when they can, when they're better than us
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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at AI programming and general learning
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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so that they can if they want to get better
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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than us at anything by just studying.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So they're better is a key word and better is towards
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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this kind of spectrum of the complexity of goals
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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it's able to accomplish.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So another way to, and that's certainly
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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a very clear definition of human love.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So there's, it's almost like a sea that's rising
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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you can do more and more and more things
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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it's a geographic that you show
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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it's really nice way to put it.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So there's some peaks that
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and there's an ocean level elevating
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and you solve more and more problems
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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but just kind of to take a pause
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and we took a bunch of questions
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and a lot of social networks
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and a bunch of people asked
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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a sort of a slightly different direction
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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on creativity and things that perhaps aren't a peak.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Human beings are flawed
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and perhaps better means having contradiction
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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being flawed in some way.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So let me sort of start easy, first of all.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So you have a lot of cool equations.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Let me ask, what's your favorite equation, first of all?
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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I know they're all like your children, but like
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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which one is that?
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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This is the shirt in your equation.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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It's the master key of quantum mechanics
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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of the micro world.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So this equation will protect everything
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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to do with atoms, molecules and all the way up.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Right?
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Yeah, so, okay.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So quantum mechanics is certainly a beautiful
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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mysterious formulation of our world.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So I'd like to sort of ask you, just as an example
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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it perhaps doesn't have the same beauty as physics does
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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but in mathematics abstract, the Andrew Wiles
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