### Human: RS500 to CLX 5000 backplane to ETH module to 1761-net-eni to micrologix 1200 Heres my story. I have a micrologix 1200 attached to a 1761-NET-ENI connected to a hub thats connected to a ethernet card in my CLX 5000 rack that is designated for the local network. Now when I use RSLINX to get online with it I come in through a ethernet card on the rack thats connected to my plant network, go through the backplane out the local ethernet card and out to the micrologix. Now RSLINXS see this path and show the micrologix. But when I use RS500 to get online all it shows is a error RS logix devlopment problemand wont go online. Any ideas. ### Assistant: I believe your problem is your sending RS500 data thought a non RS500 backplane. The back plane might not allow the connection even though RSlinx may see the device as RSlinx can communicate with RS500 and RS5000 devices. Try going ethernet from the hub to the Micrologixs device directly and not through the CLX backplane. I think your error should be eliminated else you will have limited the devices that could have errors. I have a couple of applications in my plant were we go into the CLX 5000 rack with a Ethernet card and out DH+/RIO to a couple of SLC 500s and RS500 can online with those. What version of RS500 are you running? Can you upload or download to the Micrologix? I found some old tech notes but they apply to version 5&6 of RS500. I would still try to go directly into the Micrologix via the hub. If it works you know you have an issue somewhere with the CLX. It will also allow you to check to make sure nothing is hanging up in the software. You know how Rockwell Software sometimes does great things, like not work when you think it should. What version of RS500 are you running? Can you upload Also something to think about. If your going into the CLX via a ENET card and then back out on that same ENET card does it run the backplane? When you do the hop from ENET to RIO/DH+ it would. I'm not sure if it changes anything. Maybe Fuzzy or Jhutch can comment. Maybe this also. Answer 35633 Hey mommy, nice to meet you again here in the Forum ! :smileyhappy: Beside all the suggestions from Emmett... may you please post RSLogix 500 and RSLinx versions you're using ? Also, it would be nice to see a screenshot of your error... Did you try to go online on the Ethernet where your -ENI is connected as suggested ? Any error ? It seems more like a RSLogix problem than communication problem...Try also what is suggested in Aid 8487... this has worked fine for me in the past :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic I located a plant network hub in the same cabnit as the local hub so I moved the NET-ENI module on to it bypassing the backplane. Works just dandy now. Thanks for all the help. Nice ! :smileyhappy: Anyway, just for reference, I've been succesfully to go online with a Micrologix Controller in an architecture like yours :smileysurprised: PC - RSLinx 2.54 - Ethernet - 1756-ENET ser. B - CLX Backplane - 1756-EN2T on another separate Ethernet network -1761-NET-ENI - MX Using RSLogix500 v8.00.00, all works fine (up/download,online edit, etc.) :smileyhappy: Maybe there is something related to the path length to reach your controller through backplane and Ethernet/IP module... there is a similar issue explained in THIS post.... edit: renewed link - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Version Issues with Microsoft Web Control and View SE (v5.00.00) Hello all - I am having issues regarding version mismatches of the Microsoft Web Control (shdocvw.dll) between our SE Server (Server 2003 machine) and our SE Clients (Windows XP machines). I have an SE display with the Web Control embedded. When displayed on the SE Client, the control is hashed out (unable to be displayed). In looking at the Diagnostics Viewer on the Client, I initially had the following errors: Unable to load ActiveX control for display Reports.cause: Microsoft Web Browser: Newer file version of ActiveX control required.cause: Microsoft Web Browser: CAB file missing on the server http://servername/RSViewActiveXControlSetup/shdocvwdll.CAB. I was able to determine that the version of shdocvw.dll on the SE Server was 6.0.3790.4470, while the SE Client was 6.0.2900.3533. Because this is a critical file, I cannot simply overwrite it with the newer version, as Windows XP automatically restores it to the previous version no matter what I do. In researching the issue on the Rockwell Knowledgebase, I came across this answer, so I followed the instructions to create the shdocvwdll.cab file. I also altered the IE Security Settings per the recommendations. Now I receive the following warnings/errors: CAB file downloading from server to setup ActiveX control http://servername/RSViewActiveXControlSetup/shdocvwdll.CAB.Microsoft Web Browser: CAB file downloaded from server to setup ActiveX control: http://servername/RSViewActiveXControlSetup/shdocvwdll.CAB.Unable to load ActiveX control for display Reports.cause: Microsoft Web Browser: Newer file version of ActiveX control required.cause: Microsoft Web Browser: Problem setting up ActiveX control(s) using file: http://servername/RSViewActiveXControlSetup/shdocvwdll.CAB. Has anyone encountered this issue before? I have had similar issues with other controls in the past, but have always been able to update them on the client PC to resolve it. Any suggestions/guidance would be greatly appreciated. ### Assistant: Usually it is possible to solve this mismatch (where the used ActiveX on the Server is newer than the version on the Client) following what is indicated in Aid 38414Your case could be more difficult because of the OS difference between Server and Client.A collegue of mine has solved as follow: You have to edit the display containing the ActiveX with View Studio installed in a machine that uses the same OS as your client machine (XP).So make a change to the ActiveX, save the Display, close it.... reopen it, just undo your changes to ActiveX previously done, save again and close.Now you have to copy the modified Display on your Server (now it is using XP version of ActiveX)... *Add component into Application* and all the system should work...:smileysurprised:Remember you have to do this every time somebody will modify this Graphic Display on the Server....:smileysad: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hey Fuzzy - as always, thanks a bunch for the response and suggestion. This sounds like it will work for me. I will try it in the next day or so and report back! Thanks again... Hi, any news ? :smileywink: Did you test it ? :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Hey fuzzy - actually just implemented it yesterday and it worked perfectly. Since we have a terminal server, I had to have 2 separate screens, one for Server 2003 clients and one for XP clients. When the reports link is clicked I use an API call to determine the client's OS, and then display the corresponding screen and web control. Like you recommended, the key was to create this new screen for XP while running Studio on the XP client so that I could reference it's version of the Web Control. Thanks again! n


### Human: In 1397 AB make DC Drive, how to switch off the field voltage while the DC motor is in stop mode... Presently, in our DC Drive-Motor system when the DC motor stops, the field voltage is continuously coming 220-230VDC.. I need to switch off the field voltage during the DC motor stops..And the field voltage gets on when DC motor starts.. So i need to know which parameter(s) in 1397 DC Drive had to set for the above need..Please help me... ### Assistant: The field voltage should only be removed when the main power is removed. See the following note from the manualBypassing any field fault parameters will negate the safety of the installation. ATTENTION: It is imperative that the Drive NOTBE STARTED with the field windings in theun-powered condition. Failure to follow theseprocedures may result in a machine malfunction and/orpersonal injury.The output voltage and current of both the enhancedfield supply and the regulated field supply aredetermined by the values contained in set-up parameters Take a look at tech note where it mentions Field Economy when the drive is in standby. This reduces the field voltage to keep the motor from baking while it's not running. You'll need the Regulated Field Supply card installed....not sure if this was an option or not. here is a link to the .pdf associated with the field supply card.... See if this is what you're looking for.... OK...not sure where my embedded links went but the technote number is 28643 and the .pdf of the field supply card is 1397-in006_-en-p.pdf in case you want to search for it.....I'm just miffed my links aren't here..... 'Take a look at tech note where it mentions Field Economy when the drive is in standby. This reduces the field voltage to keep the motor from baking while it's not running. You'll need the Regulated Field Supply card installed....not sure if this was an option or not. here is a link to the .pdf associated with the field supply card.... See if this is what you're looking for....'http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/in/1397-in006_-en-p.pdf Hi fordtt, here the link to the technote 28643 :smileywink: I don't know why you have problem with the links....:smileysad: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RSLogix5000 Data Preserved Download Tool Ver. 1.2 Trying to get this tool to work. When I run this app. this is what happens... -Successfully attached to RS5000 process pid[4368] - Validating task completed result [ERROR] . Unable to obtain controller information from project file. -Update process completed unsuccessfully. This tool is what I have always dreamed of. If it would work I would be a happy man. ### Assistant: Be sure to validate your application before trying to use it (Verify Controller); your program must be checked for errors... If you still have problems, try to take a look to the following technotes: Aid 54946 - Aid 55070 - Aid 54357 - Aid 55881 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Verified controller...No errors, but some warnings.Read the technotes...nothing really helps for this error. Hmmm… so, may you please add some infos? RSLogix5000 versionRSLinx versionCPU to download to Did you try *normal* download ? Does it work fine ?Did you try the tool with another project ? It seems difficult for the tool to retrieve infos from your project file… - fuzzy logic So, I tried several machines.I go online, then start the Data Preserved Download Tool, and get the error. I tried normal download and it works fine. One thing I noticed, though, I don't get a prompt for the Data Preserved Download Tool, as I should, before downloading. (I have it selected)Other stuff: The Data Preserved Download Tool.exe is not under my Tools taskbar in RSLogix5000 application. Nor is it in RSLogix5000 Tools in the Program Menu. I found it in C:program filesrockwell softwareRSLogix5000 tools folder.RSLinx ver. 2.54RSLogix ver. 12, 13, 15, 16......Have ver. 17 but havn't t found a machine cpu with 17. Maybe this only works with ver. 17 ??? HERE IS A LOG FILE: 2009-05-19 06:54:46,797 WARN - RSLogix5000 Data Preserved Download Tool v1.4 build 2289 2009-05-19 06:54:46,797 WARN - Machine name: D-IBC-013295 2009-05-19 06:54:46,797 WARN - Logged in user name: terry.larsen 2009-05-19 06:54:46,797 WARN - RSLogix5000 project name: L_ResistanceWelder_6252F.ACD 2009-05-19 06:54:46,859 WARN - Successfully attached to RS5000 process pid[3280] 2009-05-19 06:54:47,437 WARN - Validating task completed result [ERROR] . Unable to obtain controller information from project file. 2009-05-19 06:54:49,719 WARN - Update process completed unsuccessfully. Thanks for your help. The prompt from this download tool will come after the first validation phase...It has to work also with version v13 and later... Maybe a bad installation... try to remove it from Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs and after this,use the MSI Cleanup utility... please refer to this post, made by fordtt (thanks to him... :smileytongue: ), the last part about using MSI Cleanup utility... (use it with attention...! ) Then reinstall it again and see what happens... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Uninstalled and reinstalled. Couldn't find msicuu2.exe anywhere. Tried on RSLogix ver. 15 and 16. Same error :smileysad: Hey larsen, download it from HERE ... give it a try... uninstall the tool, use it and reinstall... - fuzzy logic Same results....I give up. Seems like some flakey software to me. Maybe needs some more debug....and instructions....it does'nt do what the read me text document claims. I'm afraid for that.... I suggest to call in Tech Support .... maybe with a one-to-one call they can better help you on that....:smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RSView32 and PowerFlex Drive communication Can RSView32(or other HMI) read/write PowerFlex Drive Parameter without controller over Ethernet/IP? ### Assistant: Yes, it is possible using PCCC object.... see this technote (35328) where you may find an example made for Panelview Plus (View ME) ... a similar solution could be realized in other HMI software. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 2711-KC1 compatibility ? We had customer send 2711-KC1 for repair. After repair , 2711-KC1 can not read 2711-NM12 memory card. The 2711-KC1 is series F, Is this cause by compatibility or the Memory card interface was malfunction ? ### Assistant: Not really... your PV should support this *old* Databook card... see Aid 11343. - fuzzy logic It should work. Since it isn't, something broke. Could be a card went bad, interface slot may be bust in the new terminal, file may have gotten corrupted on card ... JHutch Had try 2711-NM12 had project inside and can read by other 2711-KC1. What ever the 2711-NM12 with project or 2711-NM13 empty , both appear can not recognize data in the memory card ( Not very clear remember the message). So, as pointed out by JHutch, there is evidently a problem with that -KC1 unit.... I think you have to send it back to repair.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Thanks a lot. I will send back to repair and make comment on this sympton. n


### Human: Panel View Plus 1500 - Memory Capacity Critically Low - Error I have a Panel view Plus 1500 that has been in service for over 2 years with the same program that recently started generating the following error message - memory Capacity Critically Low Performance May Be Affected. Any suggestions? ### Assistant: Pls delete some unused files in storage cardRockwell SoftwareRSView MELogs folder, such as datalog, alarm, etc. It would be great if you could reboot the terminal. Good suggestion from Tim .... :smileyhappy: In order to delete unneeded mer, log and font files, go to Terminal Settings from the RSView ME Station configuration screen then select File Management and then Delete Files. Select the type of files you wish to delete. Also, set to delete log at powerup from PVP configuration mode... Follow these instructions to set this option to Yes in the PanelView Plus:Go to configuration modeMake sure the application is loadedSelect Terminal SettingsSelect Startup OptionsSelect FactoryTalk View ME Station StartupSelect On Startup > Run Current ApplicationSelect Run OptionsToggle Delete Log Files On Every Power Cycle to YesHope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: MLX 1500 Maximum Number of PID Loops Hi, we have a project coming up that will require control of 16 solid state relays that in turn control 16 heating elements. (blowmolding machine upgrade) The existing control (1980's Barber Coleman) uses PID loops to control these and we will do the same. My question is how many PID loops can a MLX1500 accurately control. I do recall someone saying that 5-6 was the maximum but when I set up a test file their appears to be no limit. I think I would prefer to use a Compact Logix 1769-L3x processor so I can do all comms / HMI via Ethernet and have the resources of a higher level processor for the control / data. So any excuse to that will enable me to spec the Compact Logix processor is of help. Your feedback please. ### Assistant: The max number of PID instruction in a MicroLogix controller is not a fixed number but dependent upon several factors such as available memory, scan time performance, and type of process(es) being controlled. Obviously, the more PIDs are scanned in logic, the greater impact on scan time and memory resources. In fact, the impact does not just affect PID performance but potentially all other logic as well. One program controlling relatively slower processes may support significantly more PIDs than another controlling faster processes. The CompactLogix controller is limited in the same way as the MicroLogix controller but may provide better performance due to greater and faster system resources. You may want to consider contacting your local Rockwell Automation Sales office and arrange for something like a try-before-you-buy. This may allow you to determine if either platform is sufficient for your application or if one is a significantly superior choice. Hi, Sorry for not replying sooner - read your reply when posted and never got round to saying thanks. n


### Human: 1791-8AR Is this module still available? And if not, do they have a replacement for it? Thank you, ### Assistant: Yes,it should be still available, although the 1791 Compact block i/o has superseded this range. You could consider a 1791R8B8P unit it is half the price ( and size ), although you would need to wire some interposing relays on the outputs.The only configuration would be the dip switches n


### Human: 1769 ASCII Module Can anyone offer any advice or even some sample code for programming the 1769 ASCII Module fitted to a Compact Logix L32E. I have no knowledge of this item and basically struggling to communicate with my remote batching unit. All I need to do is send on batch quantity out to this unit. If any sample code is available please send to francis.price@virgin.net Many thanks ### Assistant: I'm sending you some examples by mail.... :smileyhappy: Let me know when received.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Frank, my suggestion is to use an example like the one in Aid 32056 to test your communication. Create a new RS5000 application and use the example logic to test the ASCII communication using your PC and Hyperterminal. (Aid 48429 has example on Hyperterminal use, it is related to the serial port of the controller, but anyway should be a guideline for you)The Ladder file called Output is used to send the string out the serial ASCII port to hyperterminal. Destination of the data is starting from output word 8 of your ASCII module... see User Manual page 3-2 to understand this output image. After you have this done, you may better understand how it works and use this knowledge to complete your application. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: MAS EN bit set, must be manually cleared I have had this happen a coulple times,(Logix 5000 v16) I think on power up, the axes won't respond to the stop command. I noticed that the EN bit was set and wouldn't clear even though the rung was false and toggled several times. I go into the data table clear it and everything is good. I'm wondering if I might have something wrong in my logic that would cause this. Has anyone run into this. ### Assistant: Did you check the status of the other instruction's bit (ER - PC) when this happens ? May you also post your controller type, series, rev. and firmware ? - fuzzy logic Check that the tag for the MAS instruction is only used once.Also check that you do not jump over the MAS instruction when not enabled. I looked back through my notes from when it occured and I did document a few things that I hope will help. The Motion Control tag is only used once. the Controller is a 1756-L63 rev 16.7 it has two M02AE cards driving 3 3rd party analog drives. This did happen on power up, after the safety circuit was reset a home sequence is started for all 3 axes they start jogging until they reach the end of travel limit at which time each indiv. MAS shoud stop it's respective axis, it didn't they blew through it and faulted out on the hard stop, since the instruction never saw a transition, it was already enabled. This is when I found the following:All 3 MAS .EN bits stuck On, .ERR = 11(not assigned to motion group or module), .FLAGS bit 25 & 31 On, .ER bit not set. When .EN bit cleared FLAG bit 31 when Off. It has been powered off and on since then and comes back up and works fine. I think the other time I saw this was on an entirely differnet machine but I think with same processor and ver 16 but with Kinetix drives. I'm concerned that if this happens in the field there is no way they are going to recover from it, so any thoughts would be appreciated. You may want to review tech note 41735 in the knowledge base to see if this effect your system. n


### Human: Connect laptop with PLC 3 Hi there,can you tell me how I can communicate with PLC 3 processor with laptop.It seemed no this kind of cable directly connect with 9 pin port of laptop to 25 port of PLC 3 procesor.Do I need to buy a cable and a communication module ?Thanks ### Assistant: Take a look to the following technotes: Aid 16376 - Aid 7665 - Aid 41418 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy.But those links always show this message: Not Available At This Time This answer may be getting updated, or it may only be available to TechConnect support contract holders (see answer 50871 for details). This is because you have to have a valid Tech Connect contract to see them... If you want to send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e.mail address , I will send you back some infos... - fuzzy logic Removed comments that have nothing to do with present discussion. JHutch Derek GG, Not sure what software you're using, but I can help with the pinout. The 25-pin connector on the PLC-3 (and on the S4A, S4B, etc.) is a DTE pinout (even though it's a female DB-25, which is usually a DCE). TXD = 2RXD = 3com = 7 A lot of the A-B cables use 3, 14, 18 and 25, but those are for a non-RS-232C-compatible long lines communication (twisted pair) -- also handy, but not what you need! The port is also RS-232 compatible using the standard pins above. Your 9-pin on your PC is TXD = 3RXD = 2com = 5 So your cable needs to be DE-9 female DB-25 maie 2 2 3 3 5 7 If you have a standard 9-pin to 9-pin straight serial cable, plus a 9-pin to-25-male adapter and some gender benders and a null-modem adapter, you can find the combination that will work. PLC-3 port pinout is documented (among other places) on page 16 of pub 1775-um003_-en-p.pdf (S4B scanner manual), available online at literature library. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n


### Human: missing features PV+ ME Hi, Am I missing something or there no command buttons where we can set multiple commands or functions on a button. For example: Press a button call the login function and then display a graphicPress a button set a tag and close the window There are other features that I which where there like touch animations. We are actually missing the true macro functions that are available on the other RSI HMI applications Thanks ### Assistant: Unfortunately RSView32 / ViewSE commands are not available in ViewME/PVP... :smileysad: Also a generic Button object where you may set multiple commands is not a feature of ME. Only you may use what is embedded inside other Objects, for example a Close Display button has the possibility to set also a value to a Tag on close.... :smileysurprised: Touch Animation is not available in ViewME, too... :smileysad: See Aid 36745 for Best Practices on various ViewME features.... - fuzzy logic Thanks Fuzzy, I was been ironic I knew options where not there but I forgot since I haven't used the RSI products in a while I am just surprise that they have the same limitations since 3 years ago. I am also finding the Update of the screens slow I have the PV+ 15 with 128MB of memory. I am using some bitmaps and I did some test removing them from the app but I don't see a difference it is still slow. Thanksjdelgado Ok... :smileyhappy: About the Update of the screen... are you using Ethernet/IP or something else ?Do you have many tags on the display ? Do all the displays have the same issue ?What about the Tag Update Rate you've selected ? Apologize to ask too many things... :smileytongue: Also, some indications about this in Aid 36811... - fuzzy logic Good Morning Fuzzy, Yes I am using Ethernet/IP ( CompactLogix), I need to export to check the tag count of the screen but I will say 50 - 80 tags. Yes all display have the same issue. I change the update rate to half a sec and it updates like in 1 to 2 sec if I leave it to 1 sec it takes like 3 - 4 secs to update the screen. Like I mention if I remove the bitmaps from the screen I don't see a different which in one way I am glad. But 1 sec update is fine with me I am suprise that setting the graphic to 1 sec took 3 - 4 secs and setting it to half a sec takes 1 - 2 to update. I attached the main screen work in progress....which is the busy screen the rest of the screens are not busy just simple popups and few screens for maint to see the inputs and output status Nothing to apologize, thanks for taking the time to discuss this with me. Hi, at first a suggestion for attached image…it is difficult to manage this big image on some screen resolution (like mine ! :smileysurprised: ), so I suggest to edit your previous post, remove the image, resize it to about 500 pixels width and re-attach it. Attached an example , not so clear as yours, but enough to understand… THANKS. :smileywink: Then, about the issue… Use Direct Tags instead of HMI tags to get fastest response (unless already done) – Aid 36270Use On Top display (I guess you’ve already done this)You have to consider the Update rate of the tag PLUS the screen update time…this is the why you have update rate set to half second and really you see updated tags every 1.5 second… - fuzzy logic Thanks good tech note about the HMI Tags vs Direct Tags. I am using HMI Tags because of the Folder Structure I have multiple machines so it easy to organized that way. The reason we recommend direct reference tags whenever possible is because HMI tags add a lot of extra overhead. Basically, an HMI tag goes this route *every* update: 1 - Object asks HMI tag for a value. 2 - HMI tag looks at tag address and asks processor for the value.3 - Processor responds with value.4 - HMI tag multiples the value by the scale.5 - HMI tag adds the offset value.6 - HMI tag hands the value back to the object. In contract, the direct reference goes *this* route: 1 - Object asks processor directly for the value. 2 - Processor responds with the value back to the object. Now imagine doing that for many tags multiple times a second ... It's easy to see why direct reference tags can give a nice performance boost. (NOTE: They also use less memory in the PV+, too, which can be a performance boost, too.) JHutch n


### Human: factory talk local directory How can I load a different factory talk local directory without having to restore an application? We have several different machines with different user names and passwords. If I don't do a restore first then the old local directory writes over any project I open up. Is it possible to just restore the local directory? ### Assistant: Using FactoryTalk Administration Console tool. Open it w/ Local option -> under system folder in Explorer, right-click Backup... (make sure you have proper user/password). -> save this *.bak file Copy this bak file to other machines, open FT admin console, under Local(root) folder in Explorer ->right-click Restore... -> select the *.bak which mentioned above. -> click Next and Finished. After restored, it will prompt to enter User name and Password. Isn't this just another way of restoring an application without having to use the application manager? I was hoping there was something simpler that maybe I was missing. A button that would let you just use the username and passwords from the project when you opened it up without having to restore the project if you have worked on something else. This way is only able to restore the system folder of FactoryTalk directory. No need to use Application Manager. you'd better know the username and passwords of FT which you are going to restore.. My bad, when I hit backup I was on the project name in the explorer tree and not the system folder. This worked, thanks. I am able to log on using the same logon for windows. I don't have to remember the usernames and passwords in the project it seems. Is this correct? Sure, it supports the windows Anonymous Loggon.:smileyhappy: n


### Human: PV Plus Maintained PB Reset I would like to know how to reset the maintained PB on the PV Plus touch terminal if the drive it is controlling trips out. When selected on the PB changes state and I want this to return to the off state if the drive trips, I would also like to have this option to reset all PB's from the PLC on a first pass instruction. Any help greatly appreciated as I have only a small amount of PLC knowledge and this has got me lost. Many thanks ### Assistant: At first you have to configure your Maintained PB as follows: in General Tab, State settings, Next State based on -- use Value Controlin Connections Tab, Value and Indicator fields must have the same Tag Then, in the PLC, you have to create a new rung with a First Scan system bit and as many OTU instructions as Maintained PBs you have in your application.... see the attached screenshot for an example. You may also use another bit to realize the same reset when the drive trips... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: SLC 500 cat no 1747 -L30A The PLC is showing CPU fault and on the message display it shows Checksumerror NVRAM. how do i solve the problem???? ### Assistant: Hmmm... there are too few infos here.... :smileysurprised: Please post also : Status for ALL led on the Cpu... (and also if the led in steady, flashing or off)Message Display type and code. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Connection type for Produced / Consumed data If I have multiple racks with multiple processors and they are all Producing and Consuming tags, what should the Comm Format be on the CNB or EN2T (ENBT) modules? I see for digital I/O AB recommends Rack Optimization. This appears to work for produced / consumed data as well, but someone told me that it should be set to None. Why is that? ### Assistant: Your CNB / ENBT / EN2T modules should be set to use the correct Comm Format for your I/O modules... the Produced - Consumed tags use Direct Connections in any case, so it doesn't matter how your network modules are configured. To calculate the connection used you may take a look either to the CLX Selection Guide pages 172-173 or technote 56682 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RsNetWorx Hello, I'm a novice In the area setting up Networks and was wondering could someone recommend a book or web site so I can become more formalize in order to educate my self. Thank for any help and suggestions. Regards, Ken ### Assistant: You don't specify the Network type you're working on, anyway, a good starting point could be the Getting Result Guide. DevicenetControlnetEthernet/IP After that, you may find other usefull infos in the Tutorial coming with your RSNetworx software. For example, about RSNetworx for Devicenet, this tutorial is available from Start > Programs > Rockwell Software > RSNetWorx > RSNetWorx for DeviceNet Tutorial. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, Thank you for your reply and I'll look at the links you supplied. Regards, Ken n


### Human: Remote access or VPN to compact logix. We are putting a system into a factory with an L35E compact logix. We are trying to come up with a good way to get remote access to the PLC. The customer will set us up as a VPN client to there corporate network. They currently do not have RS5000, so it would be advantageous to be able to go directly to the PLC, and run the RS software from our location. Our system already has its own network, there is an HMI, and several Ethernet I/O devices, so putting all the components onto their network is not a possibility. Is there a device that we can use that will allow use to get to the PLC directly? We have used an ENI module in the past to connect a micro logix to an Ethernet network, and do all the programming over Ethernet. Could this be done with a compact logix, and going to the com port? Will this provide fast enough communications? Is there a way to use a router, and how would it be set up. Any suggestions would be great. Thank. ### Assistant: If it's a L35E, it already has an Ethernet port. If you're into their network via VPN, you should be all set. Speed may be slow and varied since you've got to deal with Internet speeds between you and them, but it theoretically will work that way. JHutch We have not used a VPN, but we have used a DSL modem with a fixed IP. The modem is bridged to a router that is on our local network. The router is set to forward ports 2222 and 44818 for RSlinx to the local IP address of a compact logix CPU. For security purposes we disable the forwarding when the connection is not in use.I would be interested if anyone knows how this would differ with a VPN, becuase we have some customers that would like to use that method as well. The ethernet port on the L35E is already in use, as mentioned we have several ethernet I/O devices attached to that port. We can not attach all the devices to there network, as they will not block off thatmay IP addresses for us. This is why we will probably have to go through a router. I very strongly recommend a VPN Appliance or a PC running Remote Access Service or VPN services be put in place. The customer will have to provide you with an Internet-facing IP address and configure their own networks to link that VPN appliance to the Internet port. I have customers who have had success with Sonicwall and eWON. I very strongly recommend against the consumer-grade appliances from Linksys and Netgear. Let's say your machine system at the customer is isolated and using the classic 192.168.1.x addressing range. The idea is that a software utility on your PC will act as though it is an Ethernet adapter that is part of the 192.168.1.x range. You'll be connected to your office network and the Internet, and the VPN software in conjunction with the VPN Applicance will tunnel securely from your PC to that small network. We have done this at a site, we had the customer purchase the software and a PC. It sits in the cabinet then we installed logmein from www.logmein.com. then we remote in from any internet connection. I can help my customer day or night from home or the office. Since the 1st we have done this for a few other customers and everything works great. The way the security is setup with logmein you need 2 sets of usernames and passwords (1 for your logmein account then another for the computer access) so we and our customers IT department are comfortable with the internet security. Yvon n


### Human: Power Flex 400 Heatsink ovrtemp I have a power flex 400, 300 HP. My problem is went i start the drive and past a few seconds appears a fault message ( F008, heatsink over temp). so, I touch the drive and is cold. I thinks is a problems with the sensor temp. But i dont now if is a failure card. can you help me? all fans works correctly. ### Assistant: If your drive is operating in an ambient temperature allowed as per specifications (not too cold - not too hot :smileysurprised: ) the fans are running when you give a star/run command to the drive, and there is not excessive load attached to the drive, then could be possible it is faulty and need to be repaired / replaced... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: CLX COMMUNICATION WITH PLC5 OVER RIO HI, THIS IS MANISH GOYAL ,I HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH PLC5 IO OVER RIO NETWORK TO CLX BY DHRIO MODULE. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THERE ANY DOCUMENT, APPLICATION NOTE OR SAMPLE CODE AVAILABLE . THANKS & REGARDS MANISH GOYAL ### Assistant: Hi, try to take a look to Aid 17625.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi, sometimes it could be nice to see some feedback to the replies you get in the Forum...just to know and to let other users know if it is solved, if not or everything else could be useful to others... :smileysurprised: Thanks.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: FactoryTalk Historian SE cannot add new CLX tags I create new tags in the ControlLogix processor (of varying types, e.g. BOOL, STRING, DINT, etc). I then go to the FactoryTalk Admin Console and try to 'Add Individual Historian Point'. I browse to my controller via RSLinx Enterprise and cannot see the newly created tags. The FT Diagnostics viewer is reporting the changes (i.e. it says something along the lines of controller has changed, new tag added) but the tag stubbornly refuses to show up in the online folder. Have tried refresh all folders and restarted RSLinx Enterprise service. Any ideas much appreciated. ### Assistant: Hi, just to double check, did you follow ALL the suggested steps in Aid 55733 ? - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Trouble with a 1756-if8 I'm install a new 1756-enet card this morning and after the dowload and optimize and merge, the problem appear on a 1756-if8 card. the error code is 16 ### Assistant: Something must have been corrupted in the configuration section of the module and the module rejected it.Try delete the module from the I/O configuration tree; then re-enter the module in the configuration and re-download the project. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Badabuck, Is another device perhaps coming over the network and trying to connect to the IF8? If a controller or HMI tried to connect to the IF8 as some other device (perhaps an HMI trying to treat it as a controller?), then the card might be refusing that connection and getting its configuration hosed.... Try unplugging the ethernet cable from the new network card and cycling power on the chassis and see if the intended controller connects to it OK (if it's a local connection). Does RSWho show the ethernet module and the I/O module correctly? Good luck!Dale, W8ABZ n


### Human: 700-HLT1Z24-EX Contact Current Ratings Hi, what is actual continuous current it can support when its NO contact is made closed, when it coil 24VDC is energized? ### Assistant: Hi, did you see HERE the specification for the contact ratings (it depends on load type and voltage...) - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 1756-DHRIO removal I am modifying a ControlLogix program and it originally had a 1756-DHRIO module located in slot ### Assistant: Delete selection is grayed out if you have something configured under it (i.e. a remote adapter)...remove it from the configuration and the delete option should become available. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RSLogix 5000 v16.00.00 - Module Properties not comming up. I am having a problem when I go to the Module Properties for a drive. it's happenning on existing programs and new. This problem only arrises with v16... V15 and below seem fine. This only started recently, (within 2 weeks) as everything was fine before then. This system is Windows 2000 SP4 Here is a screenshot http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww313/AncamSolutions/RSLogix5000v16error.jpg I have un-installed RSLogixV16, Re-booted and re-installed and did the same with RSLinx. Not sure what to do next. I wish this site had a search, I'm sure I am not the 1st to have this happen. Thanks Yvon ### Assistant: Unfortunately I'm not able to *reach* your image, may you please take a screenshot and attach it to a post using the Add Attachments near to the message.... (please keep its width less than 500 pixels...) Anyway, I'm aware of an issue with v16 and PowerFlex Drive profiles, the problem is that you see a circle instead of the drive properties... if this is your case, take a look to Aid 38471. One of the solutions is to install v16.03 of RS5000... About the Search tool, it is available in the Main page of the Forum...use the Advanced search.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Yep that is my problem. although my OS language is english... not sure how that would have changed. I am downloading the updates now. thanks also this is what I was getting Yes this fixed my issue thank again Yvon n


### Human: Laptop to MicroLogix 1500 communication I am trying to connect to a MicroLogix 1500 plc from RSLinxLite v 2.41.00. I am using a 1761 CBL PM02 Series 2 cable. I have reset the 1500 to default communications and followed the instructions in answer 9799 The Basics for Configuring a RS232 DF1 Driver and Going Online with RSLogix 500. I have tried auto-configure, manual configure but no success. What am I missing? ### Assistant: Do you get an error message during Auto-Configure ? Which one ? Be sure that your PC selected COM port is not used by other devices... If instead auto-configuration comes with Successfull! message, which is the problem you have ? Are you using an USB to RS-232 adapter or are you using a *true* RS-232 port ? USB converters do not always work.... - fuzzy logic The error message is Failed to find baud and parity! Check all cables and switch settings! The serial port is a genuine serial port Do the any of the other settings ( error checking, full/half duplex etc) have to be correct for auto configure to work? Does the processor have to be in porgram mode? Hmmm... are you sure to have defaulting serial port of Micrologix ?The DCOMM led in ON ? It should be, if defaulting to DF1.... The only setting you need to Auto-Configure is the selection of the serial port of your PC...Again...be sure it is not already used (for example other drivers, like RSLinx Enterprise for FactoryTalk View), is active and works.... The processor doesn't need to be in Prog Mode. - fuzzy logic Yes the DCOMM light comes on when I press the COMMS button. The other comms light is not flashing. The laptop had been used previously to communicate to an SLC500 using a 1747-PIC converter. I deleted this driver from RSLinx. I did notice that the serial port itself shows its driver as AB PIC/AIC + Port (Com3) rather than the Microsoft standard serial driver. I did try removing the AB driver and putting the standard one on but it seemed to make things worse. I think that serial port is *busy* due to this problem.... after removing the PIC driver from RSLinx, try the following: Access Windows Control Panel > Device Manager > Ports: Comm and LPT and uninstall the com port assigned to the pic and reboot. Check if the Com port in Windows Control Panel comes as a *normal* serial port after reboot, then try the Autoconfigure again.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I'll try what you suggest tomorrow when I am next on site and let you know. Any new about your test ? :smileyhappy: Thanks,- fuzzy logic The PIC driver is notorious for grabbing the serial port and not letting go even when the driver is deleted. I find it good practice to reboot after using and then deleting the PIC driver in Linx. Fuzzy Logic's reboot should sort it. n


### Human: Graphic Libraries Has anyone got a site where I can download more graphics for ME applications??? ### Assistant: Unfortunately there isn't a Rockwell Automation site for that...I know there are some sources around in the www, most of them are not free... :smileysad: You may create .bmp or .jpg files for the images you need to import in your ME project... for example making a screenshot of your image and paste into Paint or similar software. Take a look HERE to get other infos... :smileyhappy: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: FactoryTalk ViewPoint Catalogs As FactoryTalk ViewPonit has been released recently, what are the FactoryTalk ViewPoints catalogs for ordering? William ### Assistant: William, for what I can say, although it has been launched, it isn't yet orderable... I mean the catalog number is not yet available :smileysurprised: I think it will be completely released soon... - fuzzy logic No catalog information that I know of, but perhaps this link will help: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/rockwellsoftware/performance/viewpoint/ It isn't released, so you can't order it just yet. Look for a February-ish release. Also ran across the following link through Automation World: http://discover.rockwellautomation.com/IS_EN_Performance_FactoryTalk_ViewPoint.aspx Hi William, attached a screenshot from Software Updates site, where the software is now available for download to whom have a valid support contract. Anyway you may find the cat # to order it. :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Analog 4 to 20mA versus 0 to 10 volts Is there any benefit using one type of signal over another when controlling output devices with a compactlogix PLC using remote I/O. ### Assistant: HERE another post with some indications about the analog usage and potentialissues selecting between current and voltage. Basically I don't have a rule for analog selection due to the various factors that affect it,as explained in the technote 17494... anyway I'm use to select Analog Current when the device is around in a plant and I use the Analog Voltage when there is short run (machine, electrical board...). edit: renewed link - fuzzy logic extruder, It may depend somewhat on what the final device is, how far it is from the output card, etc. Here are a few points, in either direction and not sorted -- just stuff that comes to mind: * Voltage: If the device receiving the voltage signal has a very high input impedance (minimizing the current in the wires), it tends to pick up noise and the wiring must be a short run or very well shielded and properly grounded.* Voltage: If the device receiving the voltage signal has a low input impedance (minimizing noise pickup), the resistance of the wire and the current required by the input will cause a voltage drop in the wire, making the signal at the receiver inaccurate. You can recalibrate to the received signal, but the wire resistivity is temperature dependent, so your calibration will drift with temperature.* Voltage: You can take one voltage output an parallel it to multiple receivers. * Current: If the device originating the signal does not actually power the loop (circuit), you'll need a power supply for loop supply (typically 24 VDC). For MOST Allen-Bradley I/O cards, input cards expect an outside loop supply (unless you buy a sourcing card), and output cards source their output.* Current: If the field device is loop powered, the I/O card will power the device and no power wiring needs to go to it. This is very common with transmitters, but you were talking about outputs. Still, some I/P (current to pneumatic) converters are loop powered -- all you need is air, no 120/240 VAC, at the field device.* Current: To send a signal to multiple devices, you need to put them in SERIES (not parallel) in the loop. Each device has some voltage drop in the loop, and the sum of the device voltage drops plus the wire resistance must still allow 20 mA to flow through the loop at supply voltage. Most A-B INPUT cards use a 250-ohm resistor and measure the 1 to 5 VDC across the resistor -- you need to account for this in determining how much wire -- out and back -- you can have in the current loop. 0 to 10 Volts is a zero-based signal -- if the wire opens up, you read zero volts, which is still a valid signal. 4 to 20 mA is an elevated-zero signal -- if the wire opens up, you read zero milliamps, which is definitely an invalid signal. A-B INPUT (I know, we were talking about outputs....) cards often have a bit that tells you the input is out of range -- but you may not get this bit from an input set up for 0 to 10 VDC if the wire breaks. Voltage signals are more energy efficient. Each 20mA signal requires 20mA X 24 VDC of supply power (480 mW / PS efficiency) capability. Voltage signals have input impedances in the millions of ohms (typically) and use microwatts or less of power for the actual signal. Regardless of the signal, voltage or current, you need to be careful in grounding and isolation, watching for ground loops and common mode issues. More than I can discuss in a simple reply -- but it needs attention. I've seen an input ramp up and down over full range in a 30-second cycle because of a ground loop. Personally, I prefer 4 to 20 mA current signals in a noisy industrial setting, and I'm used to diagnosing issues with current signals. Other who prefer voltage will probably reply, and may point out some stuff I missed. Cool. Hope I got the basics pretty much right. Good luck!Happy shielding and grounding! Dale, W8ABZ n


### Human: Can I get the module IO status of 1732D-IB16M12MINI (such as using GSV instruction) ? The 1732D-IB16M12MINI module only has 16bit input data,can I use GSV instruction to get IO status or use other instruction to get it? ### Assistant: brucelu, The GSV to the Module object/class can get you connection status for any module in the RSLogix5000 I/O Configuration tree in the Controller Organizer that has a connection. But the 1732D- is a DeviceNet module, right? So if you're using a 1756-DNB, it's in the DNB scan list but not in the RSLogix 5000 controller organizer I/O tree. Is that your situation? If so, you can GSV to get the DNB's connection status, but not the 1732D. But you can look at the DNB Status data and see the connection status for the nodes the DNB is scanning. Check out these registers (in this example, the DNB is in local slot 2): Local:2:S.DeviceFailureRegisterLocal:2:S.DeviceIdleRegisterLocal:2:S.ActiveNodeRegisterLocal:2:S.DeviceStatus Note the S for status data, vs. I for input data. For the first three items above, each bit represents a node, starting with node 00 in bit 0 of SINT[0]. For DeviceStatus, it's a SINT per device. Sorry, I don't know the coding of this SINT -- try the DNB manual. But I've gotten by just using the other three bits. DeviceFailureRegister is probably the one you want. Still, to be thorough, you might say If DeviceFailureRegister (whichever bit) = 1 OR DeviceIdleRegister (bit) = 1 OR ActiveNodeRegister (bit) = 0 THEN there's a problem. Either it's failed, idle, or off-network. Stay tuned and see if Fuzzy has a manual reference, KB ID or technote he can pass along with the DeviceStatus coding or other info..... Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ DeviceStatus array values correspond to the values you would see on the scrolling display of the 1756-DNB for a particular module's connection. If the 1732D module is at Node 8, for example, you would see DeviceStatus[8] = 00 for normal operation. A failed I/O connection would give the value 72 (failed I/O connection), followed about 4 seconds later by a 78 (failed explicit message connection). Data size mismatch would give the value 77, and so on. My favorite table of these codes is in an old 1747-SDN Installation Instructions manual, but you can also find all of this in the DNET-UM001 DeviceNet Modules in RSLogix 5000 user manual. n


### Human: Could you tell me What is the means of ADDR stand for micrologix 1400 in DF1 protocol Dear All, I have been achieved the part of the communication driver, refer to this manual (http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/1770-rm516_-en-p.pdf). The driver can talk to Micrologix 1400 by DF1 protocol, and Micrologix 1400 could return the response correctly. The Only Question is WHAT the ADDR stand for? Such as, I want to read N7:2, then the ADDR shoud be like that? I have tested that ADDR=0700, it is not stand for N7:0. There are only example for PLC-2, PLC-3 and PLC-5, not Micrologix Family Addressing. Could you give me some futher information? Thanks! ### Assistant: Robin, I believe the PLC-5 formats are used with Micrologix 1400 as well. For N7:2, you can use PLC-5 logical binary addressing, as shown on page 13-12: 0x07 = mask byte, 3 levels0x00 = section byte, 0=data table0x07 = file byte, 7 = file N70x02 = word, word N7:2 Or you can use Logical ASCII addressing, where the address is coded as a text string, as shown : 0x00 = mask of 0, use Logical ASCII, not Logical Binary0x24 = '$' indicates ASCII address, not symbol0x4E = 'N'0x37 = '7'0x3A = ':'0x32 = '2'0x00 = NULL terminator (Basically, it's just <NUL>$N7:2<NUL> -- take the address, put <NUL>$ in front and <NUL> after and you have your address.)If it's not the same as PLC-5, then you'll need Fuzzy or one of the other tech guys to help. But try the formats above and let us know if it works! Good Luck! Dale, W8ABZ There are quiite a few different ways to address data memory in Allen-Bradley controllers built over the past 30 years. I would not be surprised if the MicroLogix 1400 supports the SLC-500 addressing format, not the older PLC-5 binary addressing or logical ASCII addressing formats. Robin, look in the DF1 manual on page 7-17 at the Protected Typed Logical Read with Three Address Fields. Try to implement this command and see if it works with your application. In general I very strongly recommend that users purchase communication drivers from established companies instead of attempting to write their own. n


### Human: HSC in Micrologix1400 Hi all, I have been trying to read a quadrature encoder signals using HSC mode 6 in Rslogix500 and a micrologix1400 PLC, but the counter reading is not working well. At very low frequencyit counts fine, but from 100Hz and beyond a lot of counts are missed. It is suppossed that it can read quadrature signals up to 100kHz, so what is wrong?. I found the answer 17447 but I can not access to it. Any help would be appreciated. Manuel ### Assistant: You need to adjust the input filter time.click on  IO Configuration, Highlight the Bul 1766 and click on Adv Config button.Select Base/Type ( any Discrete base willl not work) then applySelect Embedded IO Configuration top tabAdjust Inputs used for the encoder to 250us, Then apply. ok Thank you for the suggestion but the input filter field appears in gray... even in online or offline mode using RSLogix500. Also we need information about how to connect a 5V quadrature encoder to the HSC input, as we noticed that the high 5V encoder state drops to 2.8V when using a LM339 comparator interface (using a pull up resistor of 3kohm) Thank you in advance Please read my instructions, you need to change the Base/Type from any discrete Base to your base type ie/ BXB etc.Then the Filter will be available only off line.The 5v encoder will also cause you problems,Inputs 0 through 11 (12 high-speed dc inputs)4.5...24V dc(14...26.4V dc (+10%) at 65 °C/149°F)(14...30V dc (+25%) at 30 °C/86 °F) Most Plc enclosures operate closer to the 30 deg, so the on-state voltage will not be reachedYou can use a pulse interface convertor to go from 5vdc to 24vdcA Phoenix Contact model 2964270 DEK-OE-5vdc/24dc/100khz unit will solve this problem n


### Human: ControlFLASH and Ultra3000 I have another Ultra3000 firmware upgrade question. I downloaded firmware version 1.52 from your website. I see that ControlFLASH is included in the zip file. When started, ControlFLASH launches RSLinx for communications purposes. Question : how would RSLinx communicate with a non-networked Ultra300 drive? I assume the answer is that it wouldn't, and that Ultraware has to be used with non-networked drives to update the firmware. I'm I correct? Thanks, Tracy ### Assistant: Yes, it is exactly like you've written.... Aid 45753 has the Ultraware firmware, ControlFlash can be used on Sercos drives... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Ultra3000 w/ DeviceNet I have a Ultra3000 drive w/ DeviceNet - 2098-DSD-020X-DN fw ver 1.52 / model ### Assistant: It seems something has gone wrong with the firmware update, serial number is usually used as product identifier and seems to be corrupted... :smileysurprised:I can't find more informations on this error neither in the manuals nor in the Knowledgebasethus I suggest to call Tech Support so that they will talk with the engineers and give you some infos... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Inview programming I`m looking to send messages to an Iniew via Etherne`t.I`ve configured the drive and can download, but I`m not sure how to send a messages. I have a logix5555 plc.I`ve set up the message trigger address as inview[0], the message data address as inview[1], the variable trigger address as inview1[0] and the variable data as inview1[1].How do you set these up in the plc programe ### Assistant: Hi. you may find some examples in the knowledgebase for this communication: Aid 40774Aid 20085 And also HERE. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi, was it useful ? Did you test it ? Any info ? Thanks in advance for your feedback.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: ControlLogix tag database Can I read a tag directly from the tag database using excel on a networked computer, and if so how? ### Assistant: This is usually easy to obtain installing RSLinx Classic on the pc where you need your data into Excel... You have to configure an OPC/DDE Topic in RSLinx and after that copy the data into Excel (above links are available if you have a valid TechConnect contract) Please be aware RSLinx Classic Lite (without activation) will NOT support this feature. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks, but this appears to be a solution for PLC 5. I wanted to use Excel to read a tag in a ControlLogix processor over ethernet The examples are for PLC-5, because DDE links to Excel have been a standard feature in RSLinx Classic for many years. Choose a ControlLogix as the target of the DDE Topic and you'll get a tag list during the OPC/DDE Item Browse and be able to link the value of a ControlLogix tag to Excel. Thanks Ken for your help and comments.... :smileywink: However, take a look to Aid 41832, there is the same procedure for ControlLogix. :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Thanks,that looks simple enough. Do you know the steps for getting the value of a tag into Excel 2007 from what I could see DDE may have been replaced with RTD which requires a server... if this is outside the scope of this forum maybe you could point me in the right direction to figure this out. I would like to find a solution that would work for both 2003 and 2007. don't forget that for doing this, the standard RSLinx Lite version is not enough. You need a licensed version (OEM, Gateway oid) :smileysad: Excel 2007 should work fine with RSLinx Classic... here a post where a user has tested it... DDE should work with it (see here), anyway you may also use OPC instead. - fuzzy logic Hi, did you test it ? Thanks in advance for your feedback... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Power Flex 700 I/O wiring I need to where to land the input wire to make the drive go to a preset speed of 60 HZ in a manual mode. The drive will normally operate in an automode with a 4-20 ma signal. At times I need for the drive to operate in a manual mode and run at full speed. The start-stop signal will still come from a PLC for either operation. If a physical start-button is pushed for the drive to start, then the PLC will give an extra output for the preset speed. ### Assistant: By default, digital Input 5 (terminal 31) is configured as Speed Select 2. Based on the Speed Reference Selection Chart at page 1-24 of the PF700 User Manual, when this input is active, the Preset Speed 2 become the reference for the drive.You may change the frequency for that preset speed 2 in parameter 102. See also attachment.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi Dean, did you test it ? :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic I have not tested the circuit yet. I am still in the design stage and it will be about 2 weeks before testing. Your message made the instructions clearer.Thanks,Dean Logan OK, Dean...many thanks to have taken the time to report here your feedback to the reply... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Reset a bit with controllers clock I want to reset a bit at the same time every day based on the controllersclock [1756-L55 Logix ver 16].I now do this with a 24 TON but it is not asaccurate as i need it to be.I really want to reset this bit every day at noon I currently update 5 controllers with the clock update tool and havefound it to be very accurate. I am still new at programing and this seems simple but maybe not? ### Assistant: You may use the internal processor clock, accessible via GSV instruction... There are some examples in Aid 38232 (see the attached ACD file) and Aid 19844... This will give you all the accuracy you need... :smileyhappy: edit: removed broken link Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks for the guidance Fuzzy I took me while but it works now. The forum is a GREAT resource.:smileywink: n


### Human: Alarm Tag for View SE Redundancy Failover? Hello all - just implementing View SE Redundancy (CPR9), and reviewing Answer ID 44624 regarding Determining Any Server's Current Status And State In A Display Client - I am looking for a way to generate an alarm when a failover occurs. It looks like this article describes how to access this information within a Display's VBA, but I really would prefer that the screen not be active. Is there anyway to achieve this through the event system? Thanks! ### Assistant: Use an AlarmEvent command when a server becomes active (use an On Active Macro). Thanks Michel - sounds like a good solution. n


### Human: Major Fault On Communication Channel #0, error code S2:15=A2 I have this problem with a 5/05 processor everytime I try and enable a msg block to another 5/05 processor. I have channel 1 setup for ethernet on both processors. It mentions this could be caused by a duplicate I/P address. I have no problems until I try and enable one of 4 msg blocks I have in that processor. There are 3 5/05 and one 1100, IFix and RSView, 550 and Panelview Plus on this network. It faults within a minute of enableing the rung. Any ideas I can try? ThanksGeorge ### Assistant: My guess is that you're running out of connections capabilities for your controller...:smileysad: Take a look to Aid 38596 for possible cause of your fault and Aid 17469 about SLC connections info. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, I did take a look at that tech note and aid. That processor only gets called to/from IFix and the messages. I have reads from that processor maybe a total of 3 in other processors. It doesn't read or write to any of the panelviews, panelview Pluses or RSView works. They are on the same network though. Then when I try and do a write from it, it crashes. The processor in question was new in 2007. I did replace it once, didn't help so I put it back. They all are on forced 1/2 duplex, not sure if that matters. It is a 1747-L552 FRN 10 Series C.ThanksGeorge George, HERE a similar problem, just for info.... :smileysurprised: edit: HERE same error explained by Ken Roach (thanks Ken :smileywink: ) - fuzzy logic I was able to recreate it in my shop. I set up a 505 (552), a 505(553), and a 1100 processor. The processor I was having a problem with (552) I replaced with same program, brand new processor, same problem. In my shop (552) program was stripped to bare bones - no I/O, again reads no problem. As soon as I would try a write, sometimes less then 1 minute it would hard crash. Today, I wiped out the program, created a new program (setup), copied all rungs from (552) into it. Didn't crash, so something in the processor setup. I compared crashing 552 and working 552, when I changed the STI Setpoint (X10mS) S:30, and File number S:31 from a value greater then 0 (zero) to 0. It has run all day. Now the question is why.ThanksGeorge n


### Human: SLC 500 error code: S6 = 0002 hex Hi all, Have anyone encounter this error on slc500 ? it says unexpected hardware watchdog timeout , is this the same watchdog set in the program, didnt increase the watchdog to give it a try, but whenever power cycle the plc, the fault occurs again, Please advise, Thank you ### Assistant: It is an hardware problem, like noise.... :smileysad: see the screenshot taken from Reference Manual, page 16-3. - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy logic, Thanks for your reply, I've just read that, does it mean external factors ? no relation to the plc system hardware ? Yes, exactly.... take a look to the User Manual Chapter 2 starting from page 47, there are useful infos about proper installation and noise related problems suggestions...surge suppressors on your contactors coils should help on that... - fuzzy logic Does this problem require you to reload the program and only when power is cycled? n


### Human: L35E ethernet question I have two L35E connected together via ethernet and am trying to swap the the IP address of the two. The IP address swap successfully, can be pinged and communicated with external programs (RSLogix) but cannot communicate with each other until the ethernet port is reset. Does anyone know why they must be reset and how to do that programmatically? ### Assistant: rookcrook, How do you have them communicating? If you are using Produced/Consumed Tags or connected/cached MSGs, you have a persistent CIP connection (and so TCP connection). Once the TCP connection is established, the packets are directed by MAC ID, which is fixed for each module. Your ping shows that the new IP address is recognized by the module. So you need to break the connection and establish a new one. If you are using MSGs, be sure to uncheck the connected and cache connections checkboxes on the Communication tab of the MSG dialog so the MSG will be uncached. Then the MSG makes a new connection each time. I assume you are programmatically modifying the MSG path before you enable the MSG again. I'm not sure how you would handle Produced/Consumed Tags because the IP address of the destination controller is buried in the module configuration for the remote controller in the I/O tree of the controller organizer. You'll need better help than mine to change all that on the fly! Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ You ought to be able to send a Reset Service (service 0x05) to the Ethernet daughtercard to cause it to perform a soft reboot. Why are you attempting to do this ? n


### Human: fail to load hmi server failed load hmi server message dispaly while opening the application in factory talk view studio cpr 9.0.any help on this? ### Assistant: any solutions........... Is it a Local or Networked application ?Did you backup the application and restore it ? In some case the problem was solved trying to repair the installation through Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.... Otherwise try to see if Aid 49998 apply to your case... - fuzzy logic Do you have redundant servers? If not, in Internet Explorer, type http://ip address of your server/RSVIEWSE in the address bar and see if you get the blue-green screen showing that your IIS is configured correctly. If it is and shows up correctly, then check to make sure your firewll on your pc is configured correctly (use the Windows Firewall Configuration Utility). Have you ever been able to access the project before? n


### Human: GSV Command in Control Logix. Can you use GSV in control logix to find the number of Ethernet IP connections in use. ### Assistant: Hmmm.... I'm not aware of a CIP message settings to retrieve these infos from Ethernet/IP modules...if it is needed just as a diagnostic info (I mean it has not to be used in the RS5000 program) then you may use the Web Diagnostic pages embedded in every Ethernet/IP module. See the User Manual chapter 9 for further infos.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic The Port Capacity object should have some of the information you need, but I don't think the specifics of that object are externally published. What are you trying to accomplish ? If you just want to look at the connections, the easiest way is to use the Logix5000 Task Monitor tool. Continuing to monitor this object type could take a toll on your processor's capacity to do other stuff. n


### Human: 3 -5/05 and 1 1100, ethernet communication errors We are having one heck of a time trying to get msg'ing to work. We have cleaned up a number of cable issues. there are 3 unmanaged switches hooking the 4 processors and displays up to each other along with servers. There are other 5/05 on the network, and other view or Ifix nodes (which seem to have no problems). I noticed that the 1100 is set for 10/100 mbps full duplex/half duplex. The 5/05 all set for 10 mps half duplex forced. Does this matter? Does it matter that the switches are all 10/100? I looked at answer ID 21667 about auto negotiation and I really don't have any control over that. What it is doing now is not even faulting in the msg block, it just stops and doesn't communicate anymore unless I power down the 1 processor. We went from 8 msg blocks to 4 and still a problem. Any suggestiions?ThanksGeorge ### Assistant: Unmanaged switches are never a plus... AB equipment is multicast... it sends to all ports... 505's at 10 meg could be part of the bottleneck... if firmware supports them.. let them fly at 100 meg .. With everything talking, perhaps you are running out of connections and it pauses to try to recover a free connection..but since everything else is still talking.. there are none free so it hangs... are all the messages firing independantly or do you have them interlocked in some fashion? which PLC are you power cycling to clear network? suggestions go to 100 meg... interlock messages ( wait for a done before another fires) We had them on a timer, but when the company doing the program called Rockwell support, they had the rungs changed so that N18:0/13 and N18:13/12 are in parallel and unlatch N18:0/15. The 4 message blocks all with there own control blocks of course. I have disabled 3 of them while troubleshooting this issue only leaving one read msg enabled. One thing I noticed yesterday, is that 1 of the 1100 processors (not talking directly to the one I am having problems with) doesn't have SNMP server enable and it is also the only one with auto negotiate enable and port setting 10/100Mbps Full Duplex/half duplex. Otjer 3 processors SNMP server enable, HTTP server enable and port setting set to 10Mbps half duplex forced. Also yesterday, I tried disabling in the processor that the 2 reads and 2 write msg blocks are in, all msg rungs. I then added a rung to write to this processor (from one of the processors that I tried reading from) that failed also. More supporting some of the issues you talk about.The PC I am power cycling is the one with the 4 msg blocks in it. Not the processors they are talking to.Thanks for any help in trying to fix this.George Take a deep breath and a more thorough look at your network. It is clear that you have three SLC-5/05 and one MicroLogix 1100 controller in your system, as well as several displays and servers for RSView and IFix. It is implied that the messaging logic in one or more controllers functions correctly and then stops functioning after a period of time. The information you need to supply includes: 1. Does MSG logic hang up in just one of the controller, or in more than one ?2. Which controllers (SLC or MicroLogix) does the logic hang up in ?3. Does logic hang up after a predictable period of time ? 4. Which firmware revisions are all the controllers ?5. Use the embedded Web pages to count the incoming and outgoing TCP connections for all the controllers.6. Is there any ControlLogix I/O on this network ? Only Logix I/O and Produced/Consumed Tags use multicast. If you can attach or post the logic you are using to trigger the messages, someone may be able to advise you on it's applicability to your system. SNMP very likely has nothing to do with your problems.HTTP very likely has nothing to do with your problems. Ethernet speed and duplex may have something to do with your problems. The Messaging logic very likely has something to do with your problems. I'd try to describe the network with names instead of pronouns; you are familiar with your system, so the one I'm having problems with and one of the others have meaning to you, but not to us. Your most recent post also implies there's more than one MicroLogix 1100 on the network, but your original post describes only one. I'll post in a minute about self-triggering repeating messaging versus periodic sequential messaging. Let's talk about MSG triggering logic. A very common and simple method to run a MSG instruction repeatedly and as fast as the controller will permit is to place the MSG instruction on an unconditional rung and have another rung in which the /DN and /ER bits unlatch the /EN bit. This method works fine in many applications, but the drawback is that it does not consider the other traffic from outside and inside the controller. If you had four of these messages running in the same controller, they would get into the execution queue and then execute one at a time, then get retriggered individually as they were completed. Which would be great.... until one of them fails. That message will get re-triggered and enter the execution queue, even though it's unlikely to complete a second time. Meanwhile, the other messages stack up behind it and need to wait for the first message to time out before they can be executed. Those messages will then time out, and the logic will place them back into the queue...... eventually the execution buffer and the pre-execution buffer (the SLC-5/05, for example, has room for 4 executing and 10 pre-execution) will fill up and the logic will hang. To conserve bandwidth, I like to trigger messages based on the /DN bit of a repeating Timer. What's important is to make sure the Timer can't re-trigger the message if the message is still waiting to execute. Ethernet messages in the SLC-5/05 fail on timeout much slower than most people think. The MSG configuration window gives you a fixed value of 5 seconds, but that's actually in addition to the two values on the Channel 1 configuration; the Connection Timeout (15 seconds) and the Message Reply Timeout (3 seconds). The total timeout period is 15 + 3 + 5 = 23 seconds ! So, what I do is condition the MSG instruction with its own /EN bit so that if the remote device doesn't respond (or responds very slowly) the Timer doesn't put another copy of this MSG into the execution queue. So what if I need to send messages to multiple controllers, I want to conserve bandwidth, and I don't want to jam up the messaging queue ? The way I do it is to write a cascade of messages. The first message is triggered by the /DN bit of a repeating timer, and each subsequent message is triggered by the /DN or /ER bit of the message preceding it. To avoid the very long message timeout delay, I manually time out my messages in logic but placing another set of rungs below my cascaded MSG instructions that monitors the time that the /EN bit has been on. An Ethernet message typically executes in under 100 milliseconds, so I'm generous and make the manual timeout timers 1 full second. If the /EN bit for any of the messages has been on for more than a second, I use the /DN bit of the manual timeout timer to set the /TO bit of the incomplete message with an OTE instruction. Manually setting the /TO bit is a valid way of causing the message to time out before it has gone through the actual connection, reply, or instruction timeouts. Manually un-setting the /EN bit is NOT a valid way of doing this; in fact, it's a bad thing to do because it will re-trigger the message you're trying to dismiss. With this mechanism, I have a sequence of MSG instructions that in the worst case can repeatedly execute in 1 second x number of MSGs. In the best case, they execute one after the other and complete in about 50 to 100 ms per MSG instruction. The next level of sophistication is to provide demotion logic that prevents the re-triggering of a message that has recently timed out, and re-allows it in the sequence only once every few minutes (or few tens of seconds, depending on your system needs). I won't cover that now. Ken, Thanks so much for looking at this. Out of 5 processors, 3 are 5/05 and 2 are 1100. One of the 1100 may never be started again. Processor 1 (uni), 5/05 is the baby of the family. Processor 2 (batch) and 3 (water) are also 5/05. Processor 4 (dist) is an 1100. Processor 2 (batch) has both a read msg and a write msg to processor 3 (water) . No problems at all. All msg have been in Processor 1 (uni), 10 minutes is the longest I have seen it work, but usually right away it just stops. Yesterday, I disabled the 1 msg block still enabled in processor 1 (uni) which was a read from processor 3 (water) and put a write msg in processor 3 (water) to processor 1 (uni). It didn't error, but didn't send info either. I have to fight for time because of what shuts down when I have to power cycle one of these processors. So I am not sure how quick I can make changes people suggest. Revisions, I will have to wait unti Monday now to find out, but processor 1 (uni) 13 months old, processor 2 (batch) and 3 (water) @ 2002. Thanks AgainGeorge Thanks, George. That information makes the system much easier to understand. I only count three MSG instructions in the system, but I'm guessing there were others from Processor 1 (Uni) to several of the other processors. Let's eliminate cable and duplex problems right away, since if those exist you could spin your wheels forever chasing programming issues and never find any. You mentioned that you had cleaned up several cabling issues, but we agree that speed and duplex might be a problem. Older SLC-5/05 controllers only support 10 Mb/s Half-Duplex Ethernet. SLC-5/05 Series C hardware supports 10/100 and half/full duplex with Auto-Negotiation. A-B started shipping the newer Series C hardware in early 2005, and you can check the sticker on the side or check the S:61status register (0= A, 1= B, 2=C). MicroLogix 1100 have been 10/100 Full/Half Auto-Negotiate since the beginning. If you plug an older SLC-5/05 like the Water controller into a switch that has a 10/100 Auto-Negotiation feature, the switch will usually correctly determine the 10 Mb/s and half-duplex function. If the switch doesn't get the data rate correct, you'll get no communications at all. But if it gets the duplex setting wrong, you're in for a torrent of Ethernet frame collisions. If your switch doesn't have a FD/HD indicator (many combine the indicators or lack one) on each port, use the SLC to check for the effects of duplex mismatch. The embedded Web page of the SLC-5/05 should give you some diagnostics (I don't have one to look at right this minute) and the Channel 1 Status file will show increasing numbers of Alignment, FCS, or Collision errors. Even if you don't have control over the switch selection and configuration, if you can prove to the guys who do that the switches are preventing proper function of the system, they'll usually be happy to pay a couple hundred dollars for proper switches. Another thing I'd look at with this system is how heavily loaded the SLC-5/05 ports are. We need to look both at the physical packets/second loading and at the TCP Connection loading. The physical loading I usually measure with the embedded web page or with the Channel Status counters. A quick trick: Get a stopwatch and click the Clear button to zero the counters, count off 10 seconds, then alt-printscreen to capture the counter values (paste into MSPAINT with control-V). The three models (L551, L552, L553) and different generations of SLC-5/05 controllers can handle different numbers of incoming, outgoing, and total TCP Connections. If the Water controller is, for example, an SLC-5/05 1747-L551 controller, it will support 16 total TCP connections to different devices. It will support up to 12 of those as Incoming, or up to 12 as Outgoing. You could potentially overload the controller's TCP connection capacity with 3 or more incoming TCP connections from other controllers, and 9 incoming TCP connections from RSView or IFix. Check the TCP connection counts for all of your controllers, particularly Water. In the Channel 1 status file, these counters are words 50 (total), 51 (incoming), and 52 (outgoing). See KB# 18456 for details on those. Depending on the age and firmware of the controller, the embedded web page may even list the IP addresses of the devices that have TCP connections to the controller. I think TCP connection overload is unlikely in a system this small, but it should not be overlooked. Hi Ken, An update, Processor 3 (water) doesn't have a diagnostic file, so can't check that. I will add diag file as soon as they will let me. Also, it had a L553 processor in it when the ethernet portion died. Was replaced with a L551 processor we had as a spare. The networking issue has been going on since installing processor 1 (uni). Would it be a good idea to bring revision levels all up to present? I will attach jpg's of web pages I printed out. Will have to add a 2nd msg for 2nd jpeg. ThanksGeorge 2nd page of jpeg. Hi Ken, An update with the UNI processor. I was able to get a spare 552 and a 553 processor to recreate the problem in the shop. Stripped - no IO, nothing else in the racks but the processor. I finally found the problem. Someone had set the STI to file 11. That is where all the message blocks were. I set that to zero and no more crashing.Hopefully my last problem, in the BATCH processor, sometimes I can't do a Save-as. It gets part way through and just freezes. This is even using a crossover cable plugged directly from my laptop to the processor. I have tried a couple of laptops. WinXP, but both have service pack 3 on them. I have to figure out how to rollback. George George;Here's rollback info from the knowbase 56260 I tried the first 2 this morning - couldn't find. So I will wait till Wednesday and see if IT can do it. ThanksGeorge n


### Human: Activations mising from Dongle and Computer I think (actually I'm pretty sure) I did something wrong. My activations cannot be seen on either my dongle or my computer. I think I tried a re-host and didn't do it correctly. How do I recover these files ??? ### Assistant: I suggest to call in Tech Support, giving them the Serial Number and the Product Key, they will be able to check if your activation is available on the Rockwell Automation Server, or maybe you have to complete correctly the rehosting process... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I guess you have already completed rehost your activations. You can try to find a rehost log file (rehost_log.txt)on your computer, C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRockwell AutomationActivationsLogs. And then get to https://licensing.software.rockwell.com to rehost your activations with the rehost code from above text file. After that, you may retrieve your activations again from the site. you can rehost 3 times... then your locked out until you call tech support. typically people when not using the wizard forget to download the .LIC file. If its on the server, the support team can email it to appropriate customer regardless of times accessed. n


### Human: Check if database tag exists Does FTViewSE have a function that checks whether a particular tag exists in the tag database?In Intouch I have a function tagExists(tagname) that I use a bit. ### Assistant: When you initially set up an application, you use the tag browser to tie a tag name to an object. you dont see it in the tag browser, either its not talking or it isnt there. n


### Human: PanelVIew replaced with versaview Dear all,I got problem with panelview 1400, i want to replaced with versaview 6180W.Is it possible use penalview software or panel builder to apply existing program into versaview? Regards Ediansyah ### Assistant: Unfortunately it is not possible to use Panelbuilder32 to create applications for your Industrial Computer... If you plan to install an HMI software on it, for example FactoryTalk View ME, then you will be able to import your *old* application in FactoryTalk View Studio and use it to create the new HMI to run using a Station license on the PC. HERE you may find some info about FactoryTalk View... and the Ordering Cat. # See also User Manual of the software , page 4-5 to get informations about importing... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Dear Fuzzy,Thank a lot for your information, i'll try to do that. n


### Human: Address Wizard RSLogix 500 Hy together In my RSLogix 500, the Address Wizard isn't aviable!I'm using Vista and RSLogix 8.10.00.The function is disabled in the System Options (Look@picture) and I've got no change to make it enabled... What could be the problem?Andy ### Assistant: Hi, which is the Vista version you have ? Anyway, I didn't find informations about this issue... just try to open your registry editor using REGEDIT command in the Start Menu of your OS, then go to: HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareRockwell SoftwareRSLogix500ApplicationOptions and double click the AddressWizardEnabled on the right side of the window, edit it writing 1 in the Value Data field. See the screenshot.... USE CAUTION WHEN EDITING THE REGISTRY. MISTAKES IN REGISTRY EDITING CAN CORRUPT THE REGISTRY TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO REINSTALL THE OPERATING SYSTEM. Be sure to export the registry to a new file name before making changes in the original registry. Let me know, - fuzzy logic Address Wizard is on Standard and Pro Starter does not have the feature. Vista is not officially supported as RSLogix500 operating system. Just to say that RSLogix500 v8.10 is supported on Vista OS.... :smileywink: The following is taken from the Release Notes : RSLogix 500 is supported on workstations running Windows Vista Business (32-bit), Windows Vista Home Basic (32-bit), Windows 2000, Windows 2000 SP4, Windows XP, Windows XP SP2, Windows Server 2003, Windows Server 2003 SP1, and Windows Server 2003 R2 operating systems. If using FactoryTalk Services Platform with RSLogix 500 on Windows Vista, Service Pack 1 is required. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RS LOGIX VERSION 16 HI DEARSI HAVE RS LOGIX VERSION 16. I HAVE ALREADY INSTALL THE RS LOGIX VERSION 10 AND 13 ON MY LAPTOP. NOW I WANT TO INSTALL THE VERSION 16 BUT I HAVE NO ACTIVATION KEY.IF I INSTALL VERSION 16, WILL OLDER VERSION WORK PROPERLY? AND WHAT ABOUT VERSION 16? REQUIRED KEY? WILL IT FUNCTION PROPERLY?THANKS PLZ URGENT ### Assistant: All the three versions of the software can be installed on the same PC without problems, and will work fine.The activation key you're using for previous versions will work also for v16. - fuzzy logic THANKS FOR REPLYWILL VERSION 16.03(CPR 9) INSTALL FIRMWARE ITS OWN THE OTHER VERSIONS FIRMWARE NOT DISTURBED PLZ GUIDE? The installation of the firmware is an option of the setup process... anyway the other firmware versions will still remain on your PC, no problems.... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: PanelView Plus 1000 Touchscreen- slow to update I have a P.V. + 1000 that is very slow to update some of the values from several PLC's on Ethernet. This is on a 128 MB touchscreen, without keypad. One particular screen takes 30-50 seconds to update. Also, sometimes alarm indicators do not ever update, but if I cycle power to the P.V. then they will update. There is about 140 screens. We have monitored RAM usage live and have seen a maximun of around 23MB total. I have tried connecting only 1plc and this P.V. to an unmanaged switch and the problem is the same. ### Assistant: 128 meg and 140 screens besides each screen having a memory overhead dependant on static or updating data.. there are overall PV+ operating system memory requirements... as a ballpark think 40 meg housekeeping... plus 2 meg a screen just as unsupported examples... the more memory you can get base... the better off you will be.. unmanaged switch can also tack on network access time since it sends to every port it can see... Doesn't sound like a memory problem this time. Sounds like a comms overhead issue. (And the unmanaged switch is fine in the test scenario you described). The question is how much data do you have flying around? You mentioned alarms. How many alarm tags? If they are a lot of alarm tags, look into changing the way they work. A single alarm tag can be used to trigger thousands of alarm messages via bit triggering, for instance. Remember, 100 alarm trigger tags means the PV+ has to ask for 100 alarm tag values every comms cycle. That's a lot of data. But 1 alarm tag with a length of 3 gives you 96 alarm messages (96 bits in 3 DINT words). That's 1/100th of the comms overhead in savings there. Also, if you have ON TOP displays instead of REPLACE displays, the other screens are still open, just behind the current screen. Which means they are still updating all their tags, too. That could be contributing to the lag. Last thing to look at is how many tags/objects on the slow screen. You have to remember that the CPU in a PV+ is a wimpy little thing by a modern computer's standards. You might be asking more out of it than it can keep up with. Splitting complicated screens into multiple sub screens can help a lot in those situations. Good luck,JHutch n


### Human: upgrade firmware of Panelview Plus How can we upgrade firmware of Panelview Plus from 3.2 and 4.0 to 5.0 ? Please advise ### Assistant: Firmware upgrades are performed with the Firmware Upgrade Tool. You can do it over Ethernet or you can do it with a CompactFlash card (which I prefer). You download the firmware for your terminal from the Rockwell Automation Support website: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/support/firmware.html You do need a valid Automation TechConnect contract to download PanelView Plus firmware. And if you are a real masochist, you can even do it over serial. Make sure you set aside a nice long time ... like your weekend ... for the download to finish. :) JHutch When I upgrade firmware of Panelview Plus, it is informed that RAM is not enough memory. Please advise Stop the application running at the moment and delete all applications and logs on the Panelview Plus.Terminal Settings-->File Management-->Delete filesThen, try again.... :smileytongue: There is also the possibility, during the download across a network connection (both serial and ethernet), that the PVP may run out of storage space,as the terminal must store the firmware image in the internal storage of the PVP and then begin the firmware upgrade from that image. In that case, try to use the external CompactFlash to flash the Panelview Plus. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Help: Set Analog Output I'm using a 1762-IF2OF2 AO module and would like to change the output programatically in the code. I can't figure out the correct instruction to command the AO voltage level. I am able to adjust the AO at the bit level using the instruction OTE. Is there a way to command the AO in decimal form like you can in the Output data table during remote run mode? How does one specify all of the bits in a word in one command? Thanks in advance. Hardware: ml1200Software: RSLogix500 (RSLogix Micro Starter) ### Assistant: You may use the MOV instruction to do that... See the attached screenshot... in the Source you may either use a number directly or a Variable, like N7:0 in the example, which will contain the value to send to the output.As Destination, you have to use the Output address for your Analog Module... In the example the Module is in slot 1, the channel is the first (0) So, O:1.0 is the first word of the output in slot 1.... and it is referred to the first output, O:1.1 will be the other analog out... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Power Flex 700 scr pre charge board We have a AB Power Flex drive, P/N 20B D 096 A3 ANNANCO, that we lost the precharge board, P/N SK G9-PRE1-V480 (long story) and I am told by my local dist and Rockwell that it is a 10-15 day lead time. My question is do the other 700's have the same precharge board or are they specific to drive size? Thanks in advanceDave ### Assistant: Yes, the 400 / 480 Vac versions of all the PF700 have the same Precharge board (starting from frame 5), as you may see in the Spare Parts listing.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: PowerFlex 700S Hour Meter Is there a way I can pull an hour meter of any kind off this drive? Thanks ### Assistant: I'm not sure to have correctly understood the request.... :smileysurprised: The only Hour meter I know inside a PF700s is related to the total time the drivehas been RUNNING.... Elapsed Run Time par 298. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Yes that helps. Thanks Is that to say there is not an option for run time of the motor? No way.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 440F-M1030CYNN Literature? I have searched the site with no luck. I need instructions for a safety mat catalog number: 440F-M1030CYNN. Can someone help me find them? Thanks ### Assistant: Try to see here for mats connettivity .... and typical wiring diagrams Also take a look to Safety Products Catalog, starting at page 2-75 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Factory Talk View Studio ME application not saving after running application on computer. Product: Factory Talk View Studio Version 5 (patch roll out for me and Se installed)Desktop computer windows Xp platform with SP3 installed.Problem: Whilst developing application (for panelview1500+).When starting up the desktop I can open my application, edit graphics, add/delete tags without any problems.i can then create a runtime appplication and run the application on the desktop computer.As soon as i shutdown the runtime application and there after edit any graphics or add tags the runtime application will not save again, the factory talk view studio hangs and after a few minutes i get a 'unable to save tag database i then have to rshutdown and re-start the desktop before studio allows me to save/create a runtime application. i have delete the tags in RMData folder and Studio re-created them, but it doesnt not solve the problem. ### Assistant: Barry, just a note about your issue: The usage of FactoryTalk View v5 on a PC with Windows XP SP3 is NOT supported / tested. :smileysad: This could also cause issues as yours.... See here for supported OS. - fuzzy logic I have un-installed XP SP3, my desktop is now on Windows XP SP2.The same problem persists.If i run the application on my desktop, shutdown the runtime application and make one simple change to a graphic or add ONE TAG, The application will not create/save in Studio.The desktop appears to hang up and after a minute i get an pop up unable to save tag database.However I can edit/create as many graphics and tags as i want, shut down the Factory talk view studio, re-start it,add more tags and it will save the run time file. The first time however I run the runtime app. on my desktop,there after i cannot save the file again.I end up re-starting windows 6-7 times a day as i develop and test the HMI application.To me it appears that after I run the application on my computer and then shut the runtime application down- that there is some rockwell service in the back ground that does not stop/close properly and then prevents the application from being saved again after editing the application further. Problem resolved: Moved application to a different computer.Must be some package installed on the development computer i was using.Note:The computer that the application now works on properly does have winXP with SP3 installed, so it seems that SP3 is not causing the problem I had. SP3 is a weird beast. I've seen the same issue be caused by SP3 on one machine and not on another (pretty certain it was SP3, because remove SP3 fixed it on non-working machine). Not saying SP3 has anything to do with your problem, just that I try to never rule out SP3 as a source of application weirdness. :) JHutch n


### Human: Previous Page Command in RSView32 Hello. Does anyone know if there is a command in RSView32 that will act the same way as a 'Previous Screen' button does in FTView? I am familiar with the PrevWindow command in RSView; but that seems to only work if you have two active windows open. I want to be able to go back at least one screen, similar to the Windows browser 'Back' button. Will I have to create a Macro? Thanks! ### Assistant: Are you closing the previous screen when you open the new screen? There are options under the display settings for Replace, Overlay, and On Top. Unless you use the Replace function, you should be able to make a button on the screen and have it run the command Pushback. Thanks for the reply, rbellamy; but that is not exactly what I am looking for. Take a look to the following technotes: Aid 4354 and Aid 52735Aid 7170 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks, fuzzy! I used something similar to Aid 4345 where I created a tag named PrevScrn and added the following to the Shutdown command on all of my main screens: &Set PrevScrn display_name -display_name is the name of your display. Quotes are needed. I then made a BACK button that is on a global screen (always visible at the bottom of my project) that runs the commands: &Display $PrevScrn$ -Populates the tag PrevScrn with the name of the display.&Set PrevScrn  -Sets the tag PrevScrn to nothing I use the second command (&Set PrevScrn  ) in the BACK button because I have a Home screen that is always accessible via a HOME button on my global/bottom screen. If the Home screen was the last screen viewed then the BACK button is not needed. I run a visibility animation on the BACK button of: PrevScrn <>  -PrevScrn not equal to nothing This expression keeps the back button from showing if the Home screen was the last screen viewed. I added the comments so others could understand. This really works well and did not take much time at all! n