### Human: PANELVIEW WHATS THE USE OF SD CARD IN PVC,IS DATA LOGGING IS POSSIBLE IN PVC,IF SO REPLY ME THE WAY OF LOGGING ### Assistant: Data Logging isn't supported on Panelview Component...:smileysad: SD card can be used, for example, to store and thus transfer Application files, Images, Recipes, Alarm Logs, fonts, and to Upgrade PVc firmware.SD slot is available only for C600 and C1000 models. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Update: Found some informations regarding new features coming with next version of PVc firmware 1.20.... Data Logging will be available through trending, and will use USB or SD card to log. I'll post here again when the firmware will be available. - fuzzy logic And, as always, features subject to change until released. :) JHutch Just to inform you the new firmware 1.20 has been released ! :smileyhappy: What’s New in Version 01.20: Datalogging on USB/SD through trending Firefox 3.0 support on DesignTime Touch indication supported on entry devices Replacing Screen-saver image through file transfer wizard from Web configuration Performance improvement on USB RNDIS connection All the infos and the downloads at the following links: http://www.ab.com/eoi/graphicterminals/downloads.htmlAid 64430 Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Powerflex 700 F20 We are using a Powerflex700 and keep getting a powertorque prv F20 alarm that doesn't seem to be listed in the manual - Anyone with any ideas would be appreciated. ### Assistant: It *is* listed in the User Manual, page 4-8 TorqPrv Spd Band - F20 Difference between [Commanded Speed] and [Encoder Speed] has exceeded the level set in [Spd Dev Band] for a time period greater than [Spd Band Integrat]. Actions: 1. Check wiring between drive and motor. 2. Check release of mechanical brake. - fuzzy logic I apologise - it is in the manual. Parameter 600 is currently set to 100011 Does this mean it is already disabled (the first 1 on the left) or am I reading it wrong?? Many thanks, Mike Yes, you're correct. Just a question: which is the moment in your cycle when do you get this error ? I mean during lifting, lowering or when it should be stopped ? Is there a mechanical brake ? Please add more infos, Torque prove param. settings etc. so that me or other users could help you on your issue.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic All sorted! It involved a German forgetting to put inthe right parameters before it left the factory. Thanks for your help. Mike n


### Human: logging messages from excel i wuld like to be able to log messages direcly from an excel worksheet to a page in me. this way i dont have to go back and chane the page everytime someone wants new info displayed.....any ideas? ### Assistant: Dana,the short answer is there is no object in ME that can read data from Excel. The only way that occurs to me is to have VBA code in your Excel spreadsheet write data to your controller (using RSLinx Classic). Then you could read those tags in ME. For instructions on how to use DDE to write values from VBA to RSLinx, see the RSLinx help file. Search on the phrase Microsoft Excel DDE via VBA. There are also several tech notes, including 4677. Hope this answers the question. n


### Human: How to use EQU to compare strings? What format do you use to compare a string tag to a constant string in RSLogix? I keep getting an error for reference tag not found when I use a constant string value in my EQU block. ### Assistant: Are you using RSLogix 5000 ? Are you using two String type tags in your EQU sources ? May you please post a screenshot of your instruction ? The more infos you post the more help you may expect to receive... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic I am using RSLogix 5000. I just loaded a tag with my constant string value that I wanted to compare. So it worked that way. Shaylaw, Yes, RSLogix 5000 does not support literal string constants. Any time you want an instruction to act on a string, you must use a STRING tag. Remember that if you are dealing with very short (or very long) strings, you can add your own string type(s) with a maximum length other than 82 characters. In the Controller Organizer, scroll down to Data Types, right-click on Strings and select New String Type.... You can create a string type with a maximum length of from 1 to 65535 characters. I've used shorter ones (say, 8 characters) quite a bit so I don't use up 80+ bytes to store a units-of-measure thing like ft, sec, SCFM, etc. Just more info for better apps...Dale, W8ABZ n


### Human: 1305 how do I program a 1305 to run on power up? I have set this parameter to enable - what else needs to be changed? ### Assistant: This applies only when there is a maintained input to the start and stop inputs. Refer to User Manual, Chapter 2, Figure 2.7 through Figure 2.10. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic I would like the unit to start running when power is applied Ok, it is clear to me.... :smileywink: This feature only works if the Start input is ON and also the Stop input in ON... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks, I did a little research and figured that out. n


### Human: ML1100 with HSC Dear all, I had face a problem and now I am going to program the Micrologix 1763-L16BWA with 4 high speed input. However, I can't call the HSC function in the RSLogix 500 V8.10.00 (CPR9). Should I had to upgrade some EDS file or upgrade my Micrologix1100 firmware??:smileymad: Thanks for any kindly assistance in advance. Best Rgds.,Man ### Assistant: Try to take a look to Aid 17447 and see if it helps.... Just a note... you don't need to use the HSC instruction to obtain what you need (it is not available in this controller), you have to use the HSC Function File.... Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic See also the Reference Manual, Chapter 5, it could help you ! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic First of all, thanks for your solution. However, the HSC function is for different mode application from 0-7. In my case, I had to connect 4 nos. pulse generative device to input from I1:0.0/0 to I1:0.0/3, so any suggestion in PLC ladder programming which I can complete the task with my onhand ML1100?? Without using the HSC function??:smileysad: Can I just use the CTU function to measure the pulse signal?? From the RSLogix500 help file, it state that:The ability of the counter to detect false-to-true transitions depends on the speed (frequency) of the incoming signal. The on and off duration of an incoming signal must not be faster than the scan time.:smileytongue: However, I had never try this before and would you please advise the possibility?? BTW 2 kind of devices will generated pulse at 32/100ms pulse width and 20ms pulse width respectively. Maybe I had to check the scan rate of ML1100. Thanks for your kindly assistance!!:smileyhappy: Thanks to fuzzy logic, I think I figure somthing. Please comment on what I conclude and see if it works on my application?? I look into the pulse generative devices manual, it state that there pulse width is:Device 1: maximum 20ms andDevice 2: 32ms only Then I just need to size my PLC porgram and make it run on speed faster than the 32ms(which is the faster pulse on my system) and may works in my application!!! Please comment on the above concluded and see if I am correct ornot?? Best Rgds.,Man Hi, my suggestion is to use a STI (timed interrupt) so that you may avoid the scan problem; you will process the interrupt let say every 10 - 15 ms (maybe you need it to be set at a lower value, you have to find the right one testing the application ) and using the CTU inside that ladder file called by STI you will be sure to count all pulses. Chapter 18 of the Reference Manual could help on that... see also Aid 17501 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n


### Human: SERCOS Card inquiry Is the Sercos card supposed to be installed where the Processor is at? or can it be placed in the Remote rack? ### Assistant: Motion Modules CANNOT be located in remote chassis See Aid 41712 for details. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: PowerFlex 700 20-COMM_E Problem I have hooked up two PowerFlex 700 drives to a ControlLogix processor via a 1756-ENBT card. The drives are the only things that are on the network. The first drive connects but then faults out on a F75 (Port 5 Adapter) fault and the second drive will not connect because of a Code 16 ### Assistant: Both errors could happen due to a wrong connection size setting in RSLogix5000 IO configuration. See Aid 53820 and Aid 45272 (this is done for SMC-Flex, but applies also to a PF700)Follow carefully the configuration steps indicated in the 20-COMM-E User Manual. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Actually the only way I could get these to work is too manually go to the drive and enter the 20-COMM-E parameters. Then I had to reset the module from the drive. It had to be reset using the parameters. Cycling power to the drives does not work. Also loading the parameters via the controller or drive tools does not fix the issues. They have to be entered manually and reset manually. Kind of like the 1395 drives, when you have to manually save to EEPROM the parameter changes from Drive Tools or you will lose them on power cycle. If anyone is having these same problems try the above. I don't know if it is a fluke in the AB hardware or something I am doing on my end, but the above fixed both problems. n


### Human: Premier Integration and Flash Firmware Updates on Architecture Drives Greetings, I'm trying to understand better, when using the Logix 5000 Firmware Supervisor in Logix 5000 and it says that PF 70 and 700 drives are supported; does that mean just the comm card, or both the card and the drive. I would love some clarification on this. Cheers ### Assistant: Actually only the Drive firmware can be updated.Peripheral modules will be supported at a later time - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Micrologix 1100 link to more than 9 sets PVc (2711C-K2M) by DH485 Serial communication with AIC+ Dear all, Does any one has the experiences with one Micrologix Serial port link to more than 9 sets Panel View Component by RS485/DH485? I can only link to 6 sets PVc with the DH485 performance OK(Sent NAK=0, and Total Bad Packets Received=0). The DH485 will broken (some nodes will warning communication failed frequently) with all 9 sets PVc on communication. The total DH485 cable length is about 56m. The result with 6 nodes is: node 1,2,3,4,5,6 on communication [Message Received=23492] [Message Sent=23493] [Messages Retried=0] [Retry Limit Exceeded=0] [Sent NAK=2] [Received NAK=0] [total Bad Packets Received=0] The best result is: node 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 on communication [Message Received=1504] [Message Sent=1505] [Messages Retried=0] [Retry Limit Exceeded=0] [Sent NAK=134] [Received NAK=0] [total Bad Packets Received=0] the worst result: node 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 on communication [Message Received=74] [Message Sent=74] [Messages Retried=0] [Retry Limit Exceeded=0] [Sent NAK=184] [Received NAK=0] [total Bad Packets Received=88] ======================= System Structure: +---------+ 1763-L16 [Ch0]------(1763-NC01)------ +---------+ | | | [Terminal Resistor] | | | | | +--(RS485) ### Assistant: Well, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just more data than the poor little DH485 connection can handle. But, in case that's not it, do you have 24dc power going into each Net-AIC module? That will help condition the signal so that the long line doesn't lose signal before it gets to the end. JHutch Dear JHutch, Yes. I connect for the 4 sets DC Power Supply with ONE comm. terminal, which each set 24V DC 100 Watts power supply for 3 sets (Pannel View Component 2711C-K2M and NET-AIC+). The communication data are only ONE bit for Read and ONE bit for Write. Hmm. Well, your baud is set to 9600. If the line is not having noise problems, then it would be bandwidth related. Try bumping the network up to 19200 baud and see if it helps? Even with only single bits flying around, the overhead just from passing the token to that many devices will chew up a lot of bandwidth. Then, you don't say how often the single bits are flying around. There is more overhead on the tag request than in the actual data being moved, so fast data requests *could* be killing it, too... JHutch n


### Human: Transferring Application File from PanelView C1000 I have built an application that is 7 screens and over 150 objects. When I transfer the file, either using the configuration screen directly to a USB memory stick, or by using the File Transfer tab on a laptop that is connected via Ethernet, the resulting file is 20KB. When I attempt to open this file in the Emulator, I get a blank screen. I am getting very nervous that I will have no backup of my application. Am I missing something?rmb550 ### Assistant: Just a few questions: Are you sure firmware of PVc and Emulator have the same version?Do you have a Window OS different than English ? See Aid 54301May you please post your .cha file to test (put it inside a .zip file) ? - fuzzy logic Thanks for your interest in my problem.The PanelView C1000 has the following attributes:Firmware Version : 01.01Boot Code Version : 01.01Logic Board Version : 12Memory Usage : Application Used : 30,089,216The Emulator has the same Firmware and Boot Code Versions, but Logic Board Version is 10, and Application used is 12,783,616. The File Manager page in the emulator only shows the Initial_T10C file.The Laptop is running Windows XP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 2 and is a standard North American version.I am attaching the suspect file in .zip format.Regards,rmb550 Don't worry, your application is safely backed up on your PC ! :smileyhappy: I've succesfully opened it with my Emulator version 1.11. Just open the Panelview Explorer from inside your browser, select File Transfer, then New Transfer and copy your application in the Internal Storage of your Emulator, and you will be able to test it. To edit it, you just need to double click your .cha file, the Emulator will launch and when it is completely loaded,open up the Panelview Explorer and your application should be listed in the Dashboard. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n


### Human: ControlLogix Chassis Where to find 1756-TD006A-EN-E 1756 ControlLogix Chassis Specifications Technical Data ? ### Assistant: Here: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/td/1756-td006_-en-e.pdf - fuzzy logic The file in the link does not exist! It most certainly does. I just followed that link a moment ago and was able to view the PDF file. Do you have any version of Adobe Acrobat Reader installed on your computer ? I browsed to File Not Found I have Adobe Acrobat Reader 9.3.1 Ken Roach wrote: It most certainly does. I just followed that link a moment ago and was able to view the PDF file. Do you have any version of Adobe Acrobat Reader installed on your computer ? Wow guys, that's really strange.... I've just downloaded it from the indicated link, and works great ! :smileysurprised: I'm using Acrobat Reader 9.1.0 Anyway, I've just attached it to this post .... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic It's nothing to do with what version of acrobat been used, because I get the following message: Internet Explorer can not download 1756-td006_-en-e.pdf from ...ature.rockwellautomation.com. when the save as function of IE is used. However, I downloaded the file from another link fuzzy provided successfully. Thanks. Hmmm... I've googled the error you get, here some of the results, maybe they will help you to solve it definitely, just to avoid this happen in future.... it seems a problem on your PCs though.... LINK 1LINK 2LINK 3 - fuzzy logic It may not be a computer problem but may be caused by the ISP. It gets involved in how the ISP tries to convert the URL into IP addresses to find the content server. It can all be in what is left over that finally gets passed to the content server. In passing things around to find a proper routing, things can get truncated. This is especially true on connections in remote foreign countries. One trick that works sometimes(less than 50/50) is to go to the sites home page. This keeps the URL string as small as possible. The set of serves you go threw will find the proper IP routing and remember it. Then when you go to the longer address of the page you want it can attach the routing much sooner and avoid truncations. In the US we are lulled into a false sense of security and think the web is mathematically rigorous. In reality it is fuzzy. Thanks for that interesting perspective, Michael. The RA literature server resolves for me as 192.94.123.21, so if we wanted to take DNS out of the picture, we could link directly to the host. http://192.94.123.21/idc/groups/literature/documents/td/1756-td006_-en-e.pdf I noticed that cfhung has multiple posts requesting literature items, so it's possible that his DNS issues are limiting his ability to search for literature. He didn't mention which country or ISP he uses. I'm not a DNS expert, but it may be illustrative to see how DNS resolves the Literature server versus the Forum server: ping literature.rockwellautomation.com Pinging mkeudmzap25.rockwellautomation.com [192.94.123.21] with 32 bytes of data: ping forums.rockwellautomation.com Pinging rockwell.lithium.com [208.74.204.206] with 32 bytes of data: n


### Human: MicroLogix 1200 Totalizer Hi, Is there any totalizer count block or programming which can be done in RSLogix500 as per current existing 4-20mA analog points (basically flow in m3./hr) connecting to above MicroLogix 1200 PLCAnalog Module? ### Assistant: You may find some informations and examples inside the following technotes: Aid 17889 and Aid 44939 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Daisy chain 1794-6.5.2 FLEX I/O Analog Modules User Manual, Page 2-3, described that, “Do not daisy chain power or ground from an analog terminal base unit to any ac or dc discrete module terminal base unit.” To what extent the analog I/O signal will be infected by discrete module? ### Assistant: Similarly to the possible issues indicated by Ken Roach in this other thread, that is suggested to avoid noise coming from AC or DC modules via the power cables.... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 1305 frequency The frequency on my 1305 always resets to 0 after a shutdown. Can I get it to resume to an existing frequency that it was when powered back up? ### Assistant: pat, I guess you're using the HMI to set your Frequency Command, by the Increment / Decrement arrows, right ? Then, cycling power to the drive will set the frequency command to the value stored in HIM memory. :smileysurprised: Pressing both keys simultaneously stores the current HIM frequency command in HIM memory. The Speed Indicator LEDs will flash momentarily to indicate a successful save (if speed is above 20 percent); so the next time you restart, you will start from that value... obviously it cannot be the same as it was before the drive was powered down, just a fixed starting frequency you may decide. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic thanks that solved my problem I'm happy for that.... any Kudos to this *poor* guy that helped you a couple of times ?! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Under range 1794-6.5.2 FLEX I/O Analog Modules User Manual, Page 4-4 described that, when under range bit set (1), indicates either a broken or open input wire, or input current at or below 4mA. Is it true that input current “at” 4mA or “below” it, say 3.99mA, will set this bit? If it is, how can we identify that there is an open input wire or not from the status of this bit? ### Assistant: Unfortunately it isn't possible to have a distinction between the two situations.... :smileysad: If you are very closed to the minimum input range (i.e. 3.99 mA) you may see the bit *oscillates* between 0 and 1 and also the input value does oscillate between 0 and a small value (it could be interpreted as a minimum value, and thus you know the wire is in place).... if you are below this current value, you will see the input value to steady 0 and the underrange bit steady 1 ....and this could be interpreted as an open wire, if your analog device usually operates in the valid current range.... for sure the input value stays fixed at 0 when you have an open wire condiction... Again, just *intuitions*, not *certainties* .... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Power Up Handler In AB PLC and Starup OBs in Siemens PLC Compare Can any one please tell me what are the differences between AB PLC's power Up handler and Start up OBs of Siemens PLC. Thanks in Advance. SandeepW ### Assistant: I'm not an expert of Siemens PLCs :smileytongue: but I may explain how the Logix Powerup Handler works... The power up handler in a Logix controller has one of two purposes. It can prevent the processor from returning to RUN mode if power has been lost and restored in run mode (be aware It does NOT execute on a program to run switch).It can also be used to run ladder in the power up routine to take a specific power up action. The routine must also specifically clear the power up fault that is generated by have a power up routine ( if a fault is not desired). In fact, on power up, the following major fault will be generated if there is a power up routine defined and it does not clear the fault: Type 01,Code 01, Power-up Fault, Power lost and restored in RUN mode. If the fault is not desired, either remove the power up program or handle the fault in the power up program as described in the Logix5000 Controllers Major and Minor Faults Programming Manual ;the same manual in chapter 2 describes the Power-Up handler. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Which cable when uploading from a PV300? Trying to comm with a PV300 using pc with a serial port, and DF-1 driver. I am using cable ### Assistant: I guess you're connecting to a PV300 micro... in this case the cable is correct (1761-CBL-PM02) - See Aid 18955 If you've trouble to communicate with, be sure your model is the one with DF1 protocol...If you're trying using the Panelbuilder32 internal DF1 driver, be sure RSLinx Classic doesn't use the same serial port inside one of its drivers... or other programs may also have that port already in use... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks for your reply. I have a PV300 Micro. It uses DH485 protocol. Is this still the correct cable to use? When I try to connect, I am making sure the COM1 port is open and not in use by another program/device. No luck yet. 2711-M3A19L1 Thanks Yes, the cable is correct, just you've to use RSLinx configuring for it a DH-485 driver (the one named 1747-PIC / AIC+ driver). - fuzzy logic n


### Human: PF40 running lower voltage motors. Can I operate a 230vac motor on a 480vac PowerFlex 40? ### Assistant: I would also like to use a 230 VAC motor in a 480 VAC application. Is it possible to just set the nameplate info in P031 - P033 in a PowerFlex 4. This should not be a problem if ALL of the motor parameters are set, including number of poles. n


### Human: 1794-IRT8 Series A simulation 1794-RN067B-EN-P - October 2006 “Using the 1794-IRT8 Thermocouple RTD Module Release Notes” described that “Do not use this 1794-IRT8 series B product in series A mode. Do not connect a jumper across terminals 39 and 48 on the terminal base unit.” However, 1794-IN050J-EN-P - January 2009 “TC MV RTD Input Module 1794-IRT8_B Installation Instructions” described that “To simulate series A module wire-off detection behavior using a series B module, connect a wire between terminals 39 and 48 on the 1794-TB3G or 1794-TB3GS terminal base unit. If not connected, the Series B module will default to Series B functionality. The two descriptions seem conflicting, who is right? ### Assistant: Both are correct.... :smileysurprised: just is important to note that the first manual you've indicated reports this issue applies only to particular revisions of the module ... The second is really new (Jan 2009) and assumes you've a newer version of the module (IMO it would be better to still report this anomaly also to the last manual... :smileysurprised: ) Anyway, technote 35026 better describes the issue... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: usinng a 1769-SDN with 1764-LSP Micrologix 1500 for Compact logix discrete I/O Hello I have problems to browse my 1769-SDN scanner in a new proyect, somebody can give me an easy step by step help? Thank so much ### Assistant: Here some resources you may consult: Tutorial (on the installation CD)Getting Results guideUser Manual Basic steps could be: Connect your -SDN to a valid network (24Vdc power, correct Devicenet cable and terminations, other devices)Using either a 1770-KFD, 1784-PCID, 1784-PCD or newer 1784-U2DN, connect your PC to the network and configure the communication driver inside RSLinx Classic.Open RSNetworx for Devicenet and go online, browsing for your device...be aware the scanner default to node #63, so some minutes could be required to see it appear in the network window. Obviously the above is for *expert* users, as some other intermediate steps could be needed to realize what is indicated. Try to read the documentation indicated in this post, then you might post again with more precise questions... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Channel status CNET-UM001C-EN-P ControlNet Modules 1794-ACNR15 in Logix5000 Control Systems User Manual, page 8-22, described that if either channel status indicators is off, then it means that the module has no power on it and need to apply the power. What if only one channel status is off but another channel status is steady green? Does it still mean that the module has no power on it? This question also apply to the rest 3 channel statuses. ### Assistant: Hmmm... there is something either ambiguous or wrong in that manual about the 1794-ACN15 led status... :smileysurprised: The two table descriptions should be either inverted, or better described. The one at page 8-21 should be like: If either one of the channel status indicator is: The one at page 8-22 should be like: If Both Channel Status Indicators Are simultaneously: A correct table is available at page 3 of the Installation Instructions of the adapter, and reported here: Anyway, in a no power situation, obviously all the three leds are off... :smileywink: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic OK, under the two table descriptions been inverted, if either one of the channel status indicator is flashing green/off or flashing red/off, the actions are to check media for broken cables, loose connectors, missing terminators. Both cases seem a physical communication connection problem. How does the module make the difference?Also, if either one of the channel status indicator is flashing red/off, another cause is no other nodes present on network or redundancy warning. What does that mean? The flashing green/off appears if the fault comes intermittently (Temporary Network Errors) and could be generated by noise, defective taps, BNC badly crimped, *kinked*cable, etc. ...see Aid 46715 The flashing red/off indicates there aren't other nodes on the network, and if they *are* on the network, then there is a constant bad physical connection,and causes could be the same as above.This led indication could be differently interpreted if you're using a redundant cable solution on Controlnet; in that case the adapter is trying to recover , waiting for previously accumulated errors to dissipate....Media recovery may take a few minutes before the LED for the channel goes solid green, this is because the network must verify that the channel is indeed good. It does this by tranmitting packets on this channel, once the number of good packets are greater than the number of bad packets, in the buffer of the device, it then changes the LED status to GREEN. If the channel has a numerous number of bad packets, this process could take some time until it is verified as good to transmit on again. Hope this helps,- fuzzy logic What about redundancy warning? What problem will be for redundant cabling? It is already written in previous post.... :smileysurprised:fuzzy logic wrote: The flashing red/off ...This led indication could be differently interpreted if you're using a redundant cable solution on Controlnet; in that case the adapter is trying to recover , waiting for previously accumulated errors to dissipate....Media recovery may take a few minutes before the LED for the channel goes solid green.....The warning is intended as explained, channel is in a recovery tentative... :smileysurprised: Redundant cabling problem is still the same as single channel cabling problem, I mean BNC badly crimped, cable interrupted, disconnected, etc... - fuzzy logic There is miss understanding. Let me described this way: In redundant cabling application, if communication network for channel A is OK but not for channel B due to noise, defective taps, BNC badly crimped, *kinked*cable, etc., then what will the status be for channel B LED? Flashing green/off or flashing red/off? If communication network for both channel A and B are not OK due to same problem as mentioned above, then what will the status be for channel A and B LED? In not redundant cabling application (only one network is in used) and if only channel A is configured to be used, but the communication network is not OK due to same problem as mentioned above, then what will the status be for channel A LED? Ok, here the answer... in blue... :smileywink:In redundant cabling application, if communication network for channel A is OK but not for channel B due to noise, defective taps, BNC badly crimped, *kinked*cable, etc., then what will the status be for channel B LED? Flashing green/off or flashing red/off? Both could happen, it depends by the nature of the problem, intermittently or stable cable problem or noise... (channel A led will be steady GREEN) If communication network for both channel A and B are not OK due to same problem as mentioned above, then what will the status be for channel A and B LED? Both (Flashing green/off or flashing red/off) could happen, it depends by the nature of the problem, intermittently or stable cable problem or noise... In not redundant cabling application (only one network is in used) and if only channel A is configured to be used, but the communication network is not OK due to same problem as mentioned above, then what will the status be for channel A LED? Both (Flashing green/off or flashing red/off) could happen, it depends by the nature of the problem, intermittently or stable cable problem or noise... (Channel B led will be OFF) Anyway, I've usually seen it flashing red/off due to the cable issues, as it is quite unusual the problem is intermittent (but still could be ! :smileytongue: ) - fuzzy logic The status of the LED depends by the nature of the problem (intermittently or stable cable problem or noise...) then it seems that it has nothing to do with redundant cabling or redundancy warning, has it? Yes, this is true cfhung, just when you're using redundant cabling solution, the channel's flashing red led could also indicate a transition from a fault to recovering (this is the why it is indicated as redundancy warning)...definitely it could mean either the following: . stable cable problem / disconnected cable etc. waiting to recover from previous errors That means it could happen you are seeing a flashing red NOT for an actual problem, just the problem is solved but the channel has not yet considered OK, as the module is checking the healty of that channel. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Ultra 3000i stops moving I have an ultra3000i transferring pallets that stops indexing and does not fault the drive it just sits still. Have tried thru panel view to manually adv or return no response. I have also had laptop connected to drive and tried thru index control. Monitor screen shows drive enabled and in motion but is not moving. Only way to recover is to cycle power to drive andit will function properly for sometimes several hours. any where to start diagnosing this? Thanks ### Assistant: Hmmm.... the fact the In Motion *lamp* is ON and motor doesn't move seems to indicate a problem in the logic control of the drive...IMO it should be repaired / replaced ... :smileysad: What about the other status infos and lamps in the Ultraware panel ? Try to enable more info using the Setup button,try to post again if you like, maybe others could help you more... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic i had most all items showing from setup and didn't really see any change other than the encoder feedback was doing nothing and the index # commanded had changed to 0 ( which is return to 0 position) and the axis homed indicator goes out. It did give an E20 encoder invalid state once yesterday. Thanks About error E20, see : Aid 41840 - Aid 23861similar Thread - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Rate alarm simulation Analog input module 1756-IF6I provides rate alarm. This alarm could be used to disable a trip logic for certain application, e.g., temperature high trip a equipment. However, analog input module 1794-IRT8 does not provide rate alarm function. Is it possible to write a Ladder logic to simulate rate alarm function in RSLogix 5000? ### Assistant: cfhung, Yes, you can do the calculation in the controller, but you need to be careful about dealing with scan times. You may need to set up Real Time Sampling (RTS) and/or use a CST-timestamped connection so you have correspondence between the analog value and the time it was read. Once you have a value and a time, just calculate the change in value over the change in time, accounting for units of measure (per second, per minute, per hour, etc.) to get a rate of change: The GRT/LEQ protect you in case the scan time (for whatever crazy reason) comes in as zero or negative (no minor fault on divide by zero). Val is the current PV. Val-Wrk_PrevPV is the change in PV. Wrk_ScanTime is the delta-T. I don't show how to calculate it here, but it's the change in the timestamp value from the module, or if you're using the controller clock, it's the change in the CST CurrentValue[0]. (See the forum posting Minor Fault caused by using Clock Update Tool? for info on how to calculate controller scan time.) Cfg_RateTime is 1.0 (for rate of change in units per second), 60.0 (for units per minute), 3600.0 (units per hour), etc. If you are looking for change in units-of-measure per second exclusively, you can leave this extra parameter out of the calc. Once you have calculated the PV rate of change, you can just use a GEQ to compare it to a limiting value to generate the alarm. If you don't have good correspondence between the PV's value and its capture time, you will probably get some jitter in the calculated rate of change value. You could use a first-order filter to make the value a bit more stable, but be sure you don't filter out the change you are looking to alarm! This method works OK if you are scanning often compared to the change you are trying to detect. If you want to capture a change that takes a few milliseconds using code scanned every 100 or 200 milliseconds, this won't do. But for most analog inputs, any change that's just a few milliseconds is usually noise, not signal. You'll probably want to test the bejeebers out of whatever you develop, possibly using some nifty kind of signal source wired to the input. Good Luck!Dale, W8ABZ n


### Human: COmpactLogix: access to Compact Flash card? Dear guys,is it possible to access the CompactFlash card in the logic program? I want to read some ASCI or numbers out a text file stored on the Compact Flash card or to check the Volume Serial Number of the card.The aim is to check a serial number related to the CF card and to authorize to run the controller. I want to run the controller with just one card exclusively.Is that possible? Thanks in advance! ### Assistant: There are informations about the read/write operations you can realize in a Logix controller in Aid 28539 ... Unfortunately CompactLogix controllers have not this possibility... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic The problem with the CF cards in the current CompactLogix hardware was the potential corruption of data during the write cycle. Reading data won't be officially supported, but it won't be logically prohibited in firmware either. The same CIP messages that work in ControlLogix will work in CompactLogix with regard to the CompactFlash filesystem. It is also possible to set up an RSLogix 5000 program that will only execute on a specific controller serial number. I haven't tried to do that using the CF card itself as the serial number device. HI Ken,I've already tried to do program which only executes on a specific contoller serial number, but during download I was asked to change the program serial no. to the current cpu serial no. . How you could protect that? And second, you mean the read operation on the CF card is possible and how? Can you supply me a test app? I don't have extensive experience with controller serial number matching. I think that if you don't have the original *.ACD file that it won't allow you to change the serial number for the program to match the serial number of the CPU. It may be that this feature was meant to be run in conjunction with the CF card image and the OEM lock feature. Reads and writes to and from the CF card in a CompactLogix are the same as in a ControlLogix; Answer ID 28539 as linked above. The official word on this functionality in the CompactLogix is that it's not supported because the chance of corrupt write data is too high when the controller is in Run mode. It's a layout and shielding issue on the Compact motherboard that doesn't exist on the larger ControlLogix motherboard. It does not affect the controller when it is in Program mode, which is the conventional use of the CompactFlash memory device. My expectation is that the next generation of CompactLogix hardware (whenever that happens) will include some changes that make this function stable. Some news here guys, now the read / write operations to the CF at runtime is supported also on newly built CompactLogix, see the technote 64442 for more infos... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Printing Selected Rungs in RSLogix 5000 Has anyone else have this problem? You go to print a few rungs of a routine using the File --> Print --> Rungs: Then it prints out the entire routine, wasting about 50 pages of paper. It only happens the first time you print it seems. I've looked up this problem and it seems like people are coping with the problem by just using 3rd party software to capture/print the current screenshot. Does anyone know a better way? It's not a big deal but I tend to like trees. Eric ### Assistant: Hmmm.... just tried using v15, v16, v17 and it works fine for me... :smileysurprised: I may use both Selection or Ranges to print some rungs. Did you get the same with all your projects ? Or just one ? If the last is true, try to save the project as .L5K and then reimport... (not sure if it will help, but it is quick to try :smileytongue: )Did you also test it on another PC ?Which is the software version do you use ? I'm afraid but I'm not able to replicate your issue here.... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Hey Fuzzy I'm on v16.03. The frustrating part is that it seems to happen randomly, and only once for the project I'm in, then it never happens again until I open another project or after I restart the computer. This happened to a few of my other co-workers on other PCs as well. Thanks for trying, I'm planning on upgrading to v18 after January, maybe that will fix the problem. Eric For what it's worth, I'm having the same problem that Eric is having. Versions installed: 16.03 and 17.01 n


### Human: 1794-IB16/A counter enable In configuring 1794-IB16/A module under RSLogix 5000, there is an option to enable counter. What does it use for and where to see the counter parameters? ### Assistant: See Aid 18229... just be aware to configure the module as a Direct Connection for Input Data, to retrieve the Counter value... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 1794-IRT8 series A/B 1794-IRT8 module has series A and B. Why there is no option for series A or B when adding a new 1794-IRT8 module in RSLogix 5000? Also, after the 1794-IRT8 module is added, why the module property can not show the module's series information? ### Assistant: There is no option for series A or B because there is no major difference between the two. The only two things I see are these: As of 1794-IRT8 Series B, firmware revision C, CJC diagnostic bits will indicate if the two CJCs used on the module are measuring temperatures different by 5 degrees or more. A warning bit will be set.- If the wire off detection bit is enabled by configuration software, the wire off condition on any channel will be registered by setting a diagnostic bit for the corresponding input.Temperature reading will go to a Maximum value if 1794-IRT8 Series A is used.Temperature reading will go to Zero if 1794-IRT8 Series B is used. I don't know why the module info doesn't show the series. Hi guys, I think the *trick* is explained in Aid 39244 ... :smileysurprised: Basically, these modules DO NOT follow the standard Electronic Keying rules - fuzzy logic It's a cruel world! But it explains the behaviour. :smileywink: Why do these modules not follow the standard Electronic Keying rules? A design defect? That has been decided due to the possibility for series B module to act as a series A module by a jumper wire (Aid 29787), so who want to use this *feature* has not to deal with keying mismatch...this is definitely a decided exception. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RSView32 Reporting Utility We have been using the RSView32 Reporting Utility that was available in Technote A1927 for several years. We use it to generate simple log reports to capture process readings with a time stamp. It has worked great with Ver. 7.0 of RSView32. I searched for the technote and it is no longer in the knowledgebase. I was hoping it may have been updated. I am in the process of installing programs on a new laptop and am reluctant to install the latest version of RSView32 for fear the reporting utility may not work. The reporting utility was created using VB and Crystal Reports and I actually bought a copy of Crystal Reports so I could do some customization of the forms. Anyone else ever used this or perhaps have a better alternative for creating reports? ### Assistant: This one was fun to track down ... :) First, it looks like A1927 was changed to A9239 in the old Knowledge Base many MANY years ago. (The date codes from a backup of the old KB show this was done sometime prior to May 2001.) Then, I searched the new KB for A9239 ... it had been marked internal only because the product group decided it wasn't the best solution for that problem and started a new technote with a new procedure. Unfortunately, no one ever *finished* the new one. The upshot of this is that I re-released the old one and you can find it by searching for AID 9239 (or click directly on the link). Good luck,JHutch Thanks for the info. Would be nice if they could finish the better solution. :smileyhappy: Do you know if the utility will work with current version (7.4 I think) of RSView32? Sorry, that I don't know. If you create a case through the Ask a Question link in the Knowledge Base, the system will route it to the RSView32 support folks automatically and they should be able to tell you. When Ask a Question asks for the part number or description, put in RSView32 for the description and it should pop up a selection of RSView32 products. Any of them will work for routing it to the right folks. JHutch We are in the process of converting our system from RSView32 to FactoryTalk View 5.0. Is there any way to generate reports in FTV similar to the ones generated in this utility for RSV32? I've been most successful doing reports by logging to an ODBC database and embedding a query into an Excel spreadsheet. There is a tech note on this - see 29789. I once saw someone use a SQL Server reporting option to generate a web-based report. I haven't done it myself, but if the report was visible there, you could use a Web Browser ActiveX control in your clients to view the report data. For details on that part, see tech note 55526. Thanks for the info. I tried to use the method in tech note 39707 which shows how to configure an Access ODBC database. I tried to get it to work with my existing RSView32 project just as a test but have not been successful. When I stop my project I have a message that says Unable to access ODBC data source. (Attempt to connect to datasource failed) Does the database have to be running on Windows Server or will it work with XP Pro? I'm just trying to get it to work on my machine which is running XP. A co-worker said he had set up an ODBC database using SQL Server Express and it runs fine on XP. After several tries I finally got it to work. Is it possible to do a query on string tags? I tried that but so far only float tags are showing up in my database. I tried this here and the RSView LogViewer appears to only treat strings as numeric. It would still be possible to query these tags out of an ODBC database, but not with anything in RSView32 - would need to be an external program such as Excel with an embedded query or custom VB code. n


### Human: Re: RSLinx PIC Driver I recently upgraded my computer and purchased the 1747-UIC, I was able to load the drivers and successfully connect to a SLC500 using RSlogix500, but when I try to add a new tag to the current RSview32 program and load it, the customer computer will not connect to the PLC. This customer site has the 1747-PICs and it appears that since the 1747-PIC driver is not loaded on my design computer, it generates an error. What can be done? ### Assistant: Check your node configuration. I don't believe there is a driver selection for a UIC in RSView's channel configuration, so you would want to use an OPC node. If you are using a direct driver node, switch to OPC and make sure to specify an access path. That access path should translate to the name of a topic in RSLinx Classic that points to the correct controller. The easiest way to get this part right is to go into RSLinx, open the RSWho window, find the controller and right-click on it, then select Configure new DDE/OPC topic. Just make sure the name here matches what you put in the access path or it won't work. If you are already using OPC nodes, check the RSLinx communication event log to get an idea of what the error is. n


### Human: AYUDA QUIERO SABER QUIEN ME PUEDE AYUDAR A RESOLVER EL PROBLEMA QUE TENGO CON UN SOFWARE DEL RSVIEW32 VERSION 2.15.00 ELPROBLEMA ES QUE ME MARECA FALLA DE QUE ME FALTA UN ARCHIVO PARA CORRER EL PROGRAMA QUE ES FBH32.DLL INTENTE REPARAR PERO NO HAY RESULTADO, TAMBIEN INTENTE DESINSTALARLO Y NO SE PUEDE QUE MAS ME SUGIEREN REALIZAR GRACIAS. ### Assistant: Automated translation via Google: WANT TO KNOW WHO CAN HELP ME TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE RSView32 SOFTWARE VERSION 2.15.00 MARECO ELPROBLEMA FAULT IS THAT ME THAT I'M MISSING A FILE FOR RUNNING THE PROGRAM IS ATTEMPTING TO REPAIR BUT FBH32.DLL no results, try uninstalling and ALSO CAN NOT SUGGEST THAT MAKE ME MORE THANKS. Hello Super, I hope that you can read this answer. I am translating it into Spanish using BabelFish below I've searched 2 computers that have most Rockwell Software products installed and I cannot find a file called FBH32.DLL. Could you please verify the spelling of that name? Also, there does not exist a version of the program RSView32 of version 2.15. Are you sure that your question is about RSView32? ===En Español: Espero que usted pueda leer esta respuesta. La estoy traduciendo a español usando BabelFish abajo. He buscado 2 computadoras que tienen la mayoría de productos de software de Rockwell instalado y no puedo encontrar un archivo llamado FBH32.DLL. ¿Podría usted verificar por favor el deletreo de ese nombre? También, no existe una versión del programa RSView32 de la versión 2.15. ¿Está usted seguro que su pregunta está sobre RSView32? n


### Human: factory talk me studio lockout i have an employee who has installed factory talk ME on a laptop and has passworded it and he cannot remember the password, i have uninstalled and reinstalled the software, i have also installed the current updates and still cannot use the software. please help! ### Assistant: I think you will need to contact Rockwell Tech Support for a FactoryTalk password reset @ 440-646-5800. - fuzzy logic Fuzzy is most likely right, but just in case, try logging into the computer as an Administrator (if you have not already done so). If you are still prompted for a user name, try Administrator with a blank password and again with the word administrator. Also, on some occasions I have been able to recover from this if I made an .APA and I knew a FactoryTalk username/password that was valid in that APA. If that is the case, you can restore the .APA and select the option to restore the FactoryTalk directory. This doesn't work with Windows users unless you are using a domain controller.. Other than these ideas, only other suggestion is to call Tech Support and have someone reset the FactoryTalk directory for you. Uninstall/reinstall does not affect security (which is a good thing if you think about it). If you install the FT Platform (CPR9 and above) and configure security, aren't you obliged to make an administrator account with a valid Windows account?In that case you can try to log in with the administrator account of Windows. Even when you are logged in as administrator in Windows, he will ask for a username and password.Then use the same credentials again you used to log in for Windows. If it doesn't work, call Tech Support. So in either way, Tech Support will work :smileytongue: n


### Human: Tuning out the noise on 2098-dsd-010x I had two servo drives installed on the same machine to replace an air cylinder and a stepper motor assembly. The Servo Controllers are 2098-dsd-010x and they were connected to TLY A230THJ62AA series servo motors. With one servo motor installed and running everything ran perfect.When the second Servo controller and motor were installed I could see blips on the I/O connections to the SLC 5/04 PLC. The Vendor that was assisting us in this conversion tried a couple of things that didn't work and then made a phone call and came back and adjusted the tuning feature in the Ultraware Software program, which eliminated the blips on the I/O.I now have four more machines to convert and was hoping someone could point me to a technote or had some tips to offer on tuning these controllers to eliminate the noise so there are no hiccups or intermittent problems with the I/O. TIA Jim ### Assistant: Sounds like your vendor did a little hand waving... I haven't had any experiences (with any brand or model) such that motor tuning affected I/O cabling. Generally, these problems are associated with wiring routing, grounding/shielding termination or other basic installation practices that were skipped or installed poorly. All communication or intermittent I/O problems I have had, have always been traced to installation problem, or field failures (i.e. worn out cables etc.). Don't be supprised if the problem shows back up. n


### Human: 1794-IRT8 CJC 1794-6.5.12 – November 1997 “Thermocouple/ RTD/ Millivolt Input Module User Manual” described that “Terminals 37, 38 and 39 and 46, 47 and 48 are for cold junction compensation (with 38 and 47 chassis GND). Connect CJC1 to terminal 5 or 21; CJC2 to terminal 12 or 29.” However, 1794-IN050J-EN-P - January 2009 “FLEX I/O Thermocouple/RTD Input Analog Module Installation Instructions” described that “Connect the tail of CJC1 to terminal 5 and CJC2 to terminal 12 if channels 0…3 or 0…7 are configured for thermocouples. Connect the tail of CJC1 to terminal 22 and CJC2 to 29 if channels 4…7 are configured for thermocouples.” Is the description incorrect in the former document? For the description in the later document: “…if channels 0…3 or 0…7 are…”, does it mean “any” or “all” channel(s)? If it is “any”, then “channel 0~3 or 0~7” has no difference; if it is “all”, then “Example of RTD and Thermocouple Wiring to a 1794-TB3G Terminal Base Unit” in the later document seems incorrect, since not all channel 0~3 or 0~7 are configured for thermocouples. What is the truth anyway? ### Assistant: I think there is an error in the newest manual.They mean: “Connect the tail of CJC1 to terminal 5 and CJC2 to terminal 12 if channels 0…3 are configured for thermocouples. Connect the tail of CJC1 to terminal 22 and CJC2 to 29 if channels 4…7 are configured for thermocouples.”Channels 4 to 7 are on the B row (terminals 16 to 33) so it's obvious to me that they use terminal 22 and 29 for the Cold Juntions. Hi guys, I see NO errors in the manual... :smileysurprised: Here my *reading* of the matter: 1. If you configure ONLY channels 0 to 3 to use thermocouples, then CJC1 go to terminal 5 and CJC2 go to terminal 122. If you configure ONLY channels 4 to 7 to use thermocouples, then CJC1 go to terminal 22 and CJC2 go to terminal 293. If you configure BOTH groups of channels (that means channels 0 to 7) to use thermocouples, then CJC1 go to terminal 5 and CJC2 go to terminal 12 So, the statement :Connect the tail of CJC1 to terminal 5 and CJC2 to terminal 12 if channels 0…3 or 0…7 are configured for thermocouples. is correct due to the above last case. Simply, in the old manual the second possibility is omitted, the newest manual is more detailed on that. :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic That could be right fuzzy :smileytongue:But I still don't understand why they shifted the terminal to 22... The older manual states 21 for CJC1.I'm getting really confused, or maybe I'm too long in the Rockwell office :smileyvery-happy: That *IS* right Jamy ! :smileywink: :smileytongue: About the terminal, it is explained in the following statement: The terminal you attach the pig-tail to does not matter because the pig-tail portion of the CJC is not an electrical connection. The pig-tail end contains a thermocouple whose function is to sample the temperature of that portion of the terminal block to which it is connected. Once understood it doesn't matter, I may guess they just do this to create a similitude between the two rows of the Terminal Base... I mean: CJC1 is on terminal labelled H of the second channel in that row.CJC2 is on the terminal labelled + of the last channel in that row. Again, it isn't important, you may connect it indifferently either to terminal 21 or 22. ...go out get some fresh air ! (obviously I'm joking, Jamy ! :smileytongue: ) - fuzzy logic What is the element for the pig-tail? An RTD? or Thermocouple? or somthing else? fuzzy logic wrote:...The pig-tail end contains a thermocouple ... - fuzzy logic Looks like he needs a break too :smileyvery-happy: :smileyvery-happy::smileyvery-happy::smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: SmartGuard 600 1752-L24BBBE, I cannot find a EDS file for this product, also how do you program it, I was told by my rep that I could use RSNetworks for Ethernet/IP to set it up, but unlike the DeviceNet version, I do not have a Logic tab, probably because I cannot find a EDS file, any help would be appreciated, I have talked with my TechConnect rep, and they recommended upgrading RSLinx Classic, so I did to version 2.55, no luck. ### Assistant: To program and configure the Smartguard 600 Ethernet/IP version, you still need RSNetworx for Devicenet... :smileysurprised: Anyway, you may find informations about needed software are in Aid 61509. See also Aid 56983 , User Manual , Reference Manual , Inst. Instructions for other infos and instructions to use Ethernet connection to access and program the Smarguard 600. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Queuing first out alarm If there are 20 causes to trip a unit, to find out the first cause, some first out logic were derived. But if the first out cause to be saved up to 5 times, is it possible to develop a ladder logic in RSLogix 5000? ### Assistant: I've usually only saved the last first-out trip. Each trip should check a common trip latch bit, and if the latch is not set, then save this trip as the first-out, then set the common latch. The common latch prevents any additional trips from over-writing the first-out. A reset will clear the common latch, and clear the first-out. If you need to keep a history of the last 5 first-out trips, you can shift the first-out into a table on a reset (but you may need to make sure that additional presses of the reset button do not continue to shift the table when there is no new first-out). Jeff Thanks for the reply, but is it possible for you to write a sample ladder logic for that in RSLogix 5000? First fault latching in ladder logic is no better than the scan time. Often you get multiple hits. Also since IO is asynchronous to logic scan you can get false indications. The new Alarms and Events system may help this. I just did my first application with alarms and events. For several critical faults I set the IO for immediate updates. I still have not figured out how to get the A&E logic to execute immediately on changes. Next I will need to look a the times in A&E to figure out which really happened first. I do not have it all done yet. Has anyone else taken first fault trapping to this level? n


### Human: Wiring 3-Wire Transmitter into 1756-IF16 Can I connect 3-wire Transmitter(24V,0V,4~20m Output) into 1492-AIFM8-F-5 (1756-IF16, Differential Mode) ?If possible, please let me know the wiring diagram. ### Assistant: Yes, you can do what is indicated in the image below... Channel 0 is shown... you have to use the 1492-ACABLExxxUD to connect the terminal board to the module. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks for your help. I have one more question. Can I apply the connection diagram you informed to the both of current source transmitter and current sink transmmiter ? No, the connection is different... see Aid 28320 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n


### Human: FactoryTalk alarms and events to SMS I have a FactoryTalk SE network application. Dose someone know of an easy way to send the alarms and events to a mobile phone via SMS. ### Assistant: Matt, while SE does not have this feature, you may want to check out one of Rockwell's Encompass partners - Spectre Instruments. Win 911 does allow for alarm notification based on Factorytalk Alarms and Events. For more information, see the following sites: http://www.specterinstruments.comhttp://www.specterinstruments.com/pdf/Manuals/Current/FactoryTalk%20Alarms%20and%20Events.pdf P.S. There is also a Mobile version of Win 911. I haven't seen that, but there is information on the website. Thanks JonathanNot only dose the SMS but will be able to incude email. n


### Human: Task and routine descriptions Hi All, I'm new to logix. Can someone tell me how to increase the maximun size of the task and routine descriptions? Thanks, Jim ### Assistant: Here from the RS5000 online help: In the Description field, enter a description of the task.This description cannot exceed 128 characters. If you try to enter more than 128 characters, the system notifies you and it ignores the extra characters. Do you need more than 128 characters ? Or just the problem is another ? :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: PF40 Fault Masking Hi all, The Application is a Fire System in a Hotel where in the PowerFlex 40 is used to drive the Exhaust Fan, Now below is the scenario.During Power switch over from main supply to Genset the time elapsed may vary from 5 to 15 seconds, if the switch over is 15 or more there is no problem for the drive since it was totally off.But if the switch over is within the time when the drive Display a Under Voltage Fault and the Power resume, the fault will remain and the drive cannot run. Then this will be the problem, since this is now an emergency situation.Is there any feature of the Power Flex 40 which we can mask this particular Fault. Or Any recommendation pleased help. ### Assistant: This is a known behavior, and you may proceed either: 1. Manually Reset with the stop button on the drive2. Reset via a Digital Input / comm card3. Remove the power long enough to let the drive going completely off.4. Automatically clear the fault through the AutoRestart parameter ... you will need to setup parameter A092 (Auto Rstrt Tries) to a value other than 0 and parameter A093 (Auto Rstrt Delay) to 0. This will attempt to reset any resettable fault immediately. See User Manual - page 3-29 for further details... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n


### Human: SOE Is there any solution for SOE application in 1756 or 1794 system? ### Assistant: Hi cfhung, really not an expert on that, just I may suggest the following to start: ControlLogix SOE modules User Manual Aid 29954Aid 24898 P.S. what about your previous threads: LINK 1LINK 2 :smileytongue: Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: problems connecting to SLC5_03 Please help me. I do not know what cable I need? For the online connection between my PC and SLC5/03 CPU (1747-L532). ### Assistant: If you want to connect it over the RS-232 port, then you will need a 1747-CP3... see Aid 40972 for pinoutIf you want to connect to the DH-485 port, preferred solution would be the 1747-UIC Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Alex1000 wrote: Please help me. I do not know what cable I need? For the online connection between my PC and SLC5/03 CPU (1747-L532). Thanks a lot You're welcome... hope to *see* you again at the Forum ! :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Problems to choice of batteries and memory for SLC5/03 Please help me. DO NOT KNOW WHAT TYPE OF BATTERY AND WHAT TYPE OF MEMORY IS REQUIRED FOR SLC5/03 CPU (1747-L532)? ### Assistant: Battery : 1747-BAOptional Memory : 1747-M13 Reference : Selection Guide Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Problems DH-485 port and RS485 port Please help me. DH-485 port is similar and compatible with RS485 port? ### Assistant: Alex, RS485 Standards only specify electrical characteristics of the driver and the receiver. - Electrical signal characteristics such as voltage levels, signaling rate, timing and slew-rate of signals, voltage withstand level, short-circuit behavior, maximum stray capacitance and cable length. - Interface mechanical characteristics, pluggable connectors and pin identification. - Standard subsets of interface circuits for selected telecom applications. - Functions of each circuit in the interface connector. - It does not specify or recommend any data protocol. Protocols are a set of programming rules for interpreting the signals transmitted over the physical link by nodes. DH485 (Protocol) - 11 Data Bits - is a Half-Duplex, Peer-to-Peer, Token Passing Protocol - typically DOES NOT work with Modems or standard USB-to-RS232 Adapters > Settings; - Node Address - Baud Rate (typically 19200 or 9600) So, the channel 1 port over a SLC-5/03 is electrically RS-485 standard, the protocol used is DH-485 See also the following links: LINK 1LINK 2 LINK 3 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic I put this question because I have a ADAPTASCAN2755-SN3 and I want to replace it with another scanner that has RS485 communication port.This ADAPTASCAV 2755-SN3 is connected to DH-485 port to SLC5_03 by 1747_AIC Alex, as indicated in my previous post, RS-485 in not enough as specification to select a new barcode reader... you will need to find out one that supports DH-485 protocol, as Adaptascan does, to connect to the 5/03 CH1 port, still through AIC or other interfaces. - fuzzy logic I understand. is required to use a scanner with DH-485 Thanks a lot n


### Human: rsview 32 clashes with wincc flexible 2008-reg Dear All, Recently we are working in an project using rsview32 version 7.40. simultaneously we installed wincc flexible 2008 software for one of our new project. rsview32 doesnt opens once we installed wincc flexible the message was wrong version of microsoft jet engine library is there any possibility to make both softwares work in same system. ### Assistant: Probably Wincc flexible installs a different .dll version of MS Jet Engine... Try what is indicated inside Aid 31486... I don't know if then the error will *move* to the opening of Wincc... just save the actual .dll file to return to the actual situation if the solution will fail... I don't know if they can *cohabit* on the same PC. - fuzzy logic Krishna,The best way I've found to have Siemens and Rockwell reside on the same physical computer is to make two separate operating systems. One for Rockwell and one for Siemens and use something like Acronis to swap systems. We found that Siemens software in general is very unfriendly with Rockwell software. It can be done if you are willing to put up with an unstable operating system and application software. Just not worth it. n


### Human: Windows-Delayed Write Failed errors when saving RSLogix files over Network It doesn't happen all the time but I keep getting Windows Delayed Write Failed errors when saving my RSLogix files over my network connection,particularly worse on some of the larger project files. Our PLC files reside on a server on a seperate Control network along with all our PLC Devices. The terminal at my desk resides on the business network and has a clever patch through the servers to allow access to the network. (I would prefer dual NIC's but this is what our IT dept. has gratiously allowed us.) I am able to open all .ACD files on the server from my desk and go online with them but have limited ability to save the projects if I make changes regardless if I am working with a copy or not. Rather than get the usual, another copy is open, I get the windows delayed write fail alarm and a corrupted copy of the file on the server which then has to be recovered from a previous version. PITA!!! I have tried increasing my SystemPage value from 7b000 (503,808) to b71b0 (750,000) with no noticed improvements. My IT guy is not familiar with Rockwell Software to advise and doesn't believe it's a network or server issue so here I am. I have had this issue on a terminal on the control side as well so he may very well be right. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, hopefully I am not the only one who has experienced this. ### Assistant: I've seen in the past this error, but was related to a removable USB drive, so I think isn't a big help for your issue... I've tried to google this error message, and seen so many others who has the same issue... just I want to indicate you a couple of articles that could be a strting point for your troubleshooting... I guess it is not related to RS5000 though... LINK 1LINK 2LINK 3 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Yes, they were a good starting point. I too found those same articles and had already worked thru them with no resolution long before posting here. The only thing I love more than Technical Forums is Google. lol. It may also be worth mentioning that I get similar problems with corrupted applications when trying to save Intouch Applications from the same terminal. I don't get the same Delayed Write Fail error but It nets the same results and is equally as frustrating. I do not wish to recreate that scenario just for a screen shot of the error codes to refresh my memory though. Just take the time to see these other links... maybe you've already seen them, but seem interesting... :smileysurprised: LINK 4LINK 5 - (LINK 6) - second one only for screenshots :smileytongue:LINK 7 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Those last links were some new info; Link 7 was the most interesting of that last lot, and while it didn't provide the solution, it did lead me down a path to find this. I am now more than convinced that it is indeed a server issue and am also armed much better to go back to my IT dept for a solution. I'm happy for that ! :smileyhappy: Please take the time to post again if you have some news on the matter... it will be for sure useful for all of us...:smileywink: Thanks, - fuzzy logic Problem solved!! This time I had enough proof that my IT guy had to listen. Turns out i was on a fairly loaded server and was getting collision errors, he swapped my connection over to a dedicated server for our Engineering dept and the problem went away. When we looked into this before, the server did not log any errors even when the events occurred. Strange, but all's well that ends well. Well done ! :smileyhappy: Thanks for you feedback ...and Kudos ! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: How to reset motion instruction error? For example, if MSO instruction's error bit has been set for some reson, how to reset or clear it in PLC without drive or PLC power recycle? ### Assistant: Please try to take a look first to the Motion Instructions Reference Manual - Chapter 1 (Motion Concepts) about the behavior of the .ER bit in motion instructions... Then, please post again if you have further questions... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Communication problem PV300 Please help me! I have a PV300 PanelView 300 Keypad Terminal , 2711-K3A2L1 RES. B with DH-485 port. What cable and modem I need to Download and upload the OP program to the PC? ### Assistant: You will need a 1747-UIC to connect it to the PC... This protocol (DH-485) typically doesn't work over modem, but I may have misunderstood your question.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 700S F129 We have two VSDs (PF 700S) that are configured for sugar centrifugals we are using here at our factory. Both applications run with and active regeneration units,(1336 R) which activate when slowing the centrifugal down after its high speed cycle. Both machines have been running well for approximately 8 months with no problems.Today for no reason one of the machines VSD stopped on a fault F ### Assistant: Hi, the Fault F129 *is* in the manual, page 4-11 ....:smileywink: It is just an indication that the Faults have been cleared... just check if F11 is an old indication or it maybe the cause of your stop... Anyway the Green status led just indicate the drive is ready to work ..., so right now no faults are present... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy; i am a twit, never even read through the clients mail to see the green light part, could not pick up the code in our manual, downloaded the latest manul from the web an found the code there, will let you know what the client says. Crazy friday afternoon in SA. thanks for the speedy reply. n


### Human: DF1 - Protocol Command Set I am writing an application with VB6. I want to read and write N7 files onto my 5/03 PLC.The comm setup is COM 5, 9600, 8,n,1I have the DF1 Protocol Comment Set manual, but i don't find the documentation very clear on how to send ASCIIinstruction in order to read and write to the N7 files.anyone has done that ?is so, anyone have code example or good documentation that explain the command properly? thanks, MArk ### Assistant: Mark, a lot of informations here: http://forums.mrplc.com/index.php?showtopic=11323 Take also a look to the DF1 protocol User Manual and tecnote 27504 Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n


### Human: SLX manual startup Hello all the forum gurus. Need some small advice on softlogix startup. Anyway to startup softlogix manually when PC boots up. I have tried to find the services inside Control panel/Administrative tools/services panel but to no avail. It is slowing down my PC bootup drastically. It would be good if it have something like the RSlinx launch control panel whereby u can start Rslinx manually. Thanks!!!!! ### Assistant: Unfortunately this isn't possible, preventing the softlogix chassis monitor from starting automatically is not a recommended procedure. :smileysad: See also Aid 9106 - fuzzy logic Wow, that is a fast one. Thks. :smileyhappy: You're welcome ! Hope to be able to help you more, next time .... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 3-wire Transmitter Problem Hello fellows... I have wired 3-wire transmitter to 1756-IF16 module as below diagram.But, It does not work.... I guess the reason is that transmitter did not use DC power of PLC Panel.Please solve this issue and let me know the wiring diagram anyone who knows the reason. Thanks. ### Assistant: Does the transmitter have a sinking or sourcing output transistor in it? The way you have wired the module it has a sinking resistor. This will require a sourcing transistor in the transmitter. Look at Publication 1756-UM009B-EN-P - June 2003 Page 4-14 for the circuit for the inside of the module. Put the loop resistor that is in the module in your diagram. Next put the transmitter's output transistor in your diagram. After that I think you will see what is happening. One other possibility, this module may have differential inputs but they are not isolated from each other. If there are multiple supplies then in all the grounding there is a chance that you have exceeded volt clamps in the module. You need to check how all the supplies are referenced to each other. Maybe the answer is in this other thread (also created by you, hd :smileywink: ) - fuzzy logic The thread referenced Aid 28320. This has a pdf in it that is suppose to explain things. I do not think the pictures the pdf explains anything. They need a simplified view of the transmitter showing wheather the output is either a sinking or sourcing transistor. The pdf does not even show the loop resistor in the control panel. No wonder he is asking the same question agian. Attached is the revised aid. It is still not a good explantion but at least it is better. see 1756-UM009B-EN-P and decide whether its single ended..differential .. voltage or current.. they are all different wiring. and of course where power is derived from. Odd that original posters diagram shows voltage transmitter but says current on the input card side. n


### Human: Can I extract a PV550 Application and edit using Panelbuilder 32? I can open a .pba file which I have as a back up but I wanted to make sure I was going to edit the exact copy that was stored in the PV, I get an error message saying error reading application file, file cannot be loaded. I had saved the extacted appliaction as a.pva file, Is this like the panel view pus where you may not be able to open up the run time file and edit it or should you be able to suck a program from a PV550 and then edit it. The firmware version of the PV550 is V4.2 Firmware and V2.06 Boot. Any help appreciated as its the first time I have used this software (or about to use it) Thanks John ### Assistant: John, you may want try the following, if not already done; copy the .pva file to the default applications folder... typically it is: c:program filesallen bradleypanelbuilder 32applications This error is usually seen when the directory path to file is too long. (Which is the version of your PB32 ? ) Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic The error can also mean the app was saved specifically without the ability to upload it back out of the PV550. Many OEMs do this as a way to copy-protect their work. Then again, it can also mean the PVA file is partially corrupted and can't be recovered. JHutch n


### Human: Temporary Data Acquisition for SLC-5/04 Looking for a way of collecting data from a SLC-5/04. Approximately 6 integer tags plus a timestamp. Would like to be able to read the data in Excel. ### Assistant: Hi, verify that you have the Rslinx professional or gateway, etc., but not lite version of rslinx, the lite version does not allow export or import data using DDE (Dynamic Data Exchange). In your excel application cell write this: =RSLINX|ROS!'S:4,L1,C1' As you can see the register S:4 is the free running clock.The name ROS represents the topic, go to the rslinx to create the topic, there you will select the PLC available. Let me know if you get something. good luck Thanks for your help unfortunately I need a little more. Is there a way to populate the cells? You must have a licensed version of RSLinx (not Lite). Open RSLinx and create a topic for the PLC (assumes you can already communicate to the PLC in with RSLinx):1. Click DDE/OPC on the menu bar.2. Click NEW at the bottom left. A new topic will appear with the name NEW_TOPIC selected. Type a new name to overwrite it with something more meaningful.3. In the right pane, select the data source by expanding the driver(s) if necessary to locate your PLC.4. Click the Done button. 5. In RSLinx, click Edit on the menu bar and select Copy DDE/OPC link.6. Click the + symbol next to RSLinx OPC Server to expand the list of topics.7. Find your topic name and expand it also.8. Expand the online data files to find the address you wish to monitor.9. When you find the address you want to monitor in the right pane, click it, and the data table address field at the bottom will be populated. Click okay.10. In Excel, right click on a cell and hit paste special. Then choose the Paste Link option. Now excel should show the data from the SLC at the default update rate of the topic. You can copy and paste that cell and then go in and edit just the address portion as a faster method of creating more links. There are other things you can modify to control the rate that excel updates the cells, or grab a group of contiguous addresses with one link. Now, getting the timestamp, and recording the data can be done in a variety of ways. You can basically choose the somewhat simple and most reliable method of modifying the SLC program to record values for you. If the SLC can't be stopped to expand data tables, or is not capable of holding all the values you need for the period you require, then you'll need to look into scripting with VBA in excel to do the sampling. n


### Human: RTC setting for an SLC503 Hi all,I'm trying to set the RTC with RS500 for an SLC503 but the file format ### Assistant: SLC-500 controllers use the ordinary Status file for the Real-Time Clock, which is built into the controller. Click on the Processor Status icon under the Controller folder in the project tree to see the status elements that correspond to the controller clock. Micrologix controllers use the new extended datatypes for things like the RTC module and onboard interrupts and high-speed functions. Thanks Ken,I know where to find it. The matter is that the RS500 rel. 5.50 is refusing the instruction when using #RTC.HR, as example, when trying to overwrite the hours, for the daylightsaving.Do I need a newer release or also a newer release doesn't solve the matter ?Thanks gallo, as Ken wrote, there isn't this Data Type (RTC) inside SLC controllers ... :smileysurprised: You have to read/write directly to the Status file S:2; i.e. to access Clock / Hours, you have to access word S:40. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Error Opening Tag Database from Objects Hi, I am using Factory Talk View Studio Release 5.0 with Build Number 55. When i insert an object, go to its properties, then click on Tag i am not getting the tag database property. When i try to go through the expression editor and click the tags i getting an error popup. i have attached the error with this message. Kindly help me sort out this issue. RegardsGopal ### Assistant: Try the following: Shutdown View Studio and run the following commands at a command prompt: 1. regsvr32 C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSView EnterpriseSETagBrowser.dll 2. DIBServer.exe /regserver - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Parameter Files & Literals Can I pass a literal that's not a string using a parameter file? For example, I have a button with a color animation. If the expression evaluates to 0, the color will be red. If the expression evaluates to 1, the color will be green. I'd like to set the expression to ### Assistant: Assuming you're asking about View SE.... :smileysurprised: Assigning a constant value in the parameter file will not work...my suggestion is to create two memory tags, i.e MemOff and MemOn with Initial Values respectively Off and On. Then your parameter file should contain something like either #1 = MemOff or #1 = MemOn Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I assume you are talking about SE here. Parameter files only support passing of tags, not constants. The only way I can see doing what you want to do is: Set a memory tag to some value prior to displaying the graphic and pass that memory tag as a parameter.For applications where that might not work (as in multiple instances of that screen open at the same time), you could use VBA. VBA does not care if the parameter is a tag or not, so you could have it read the value and set the color of the object. See tech note 26950. Syntax might look something like this:If Me.TagParameters(1) = red Then Polygon1.BackColor = vbRed Yes, I'm using SE ... Thanks for responding guys ... after posting up my question, I came across the same solution. I was trying to avoid using VBA and tags altogether, but seeing as it's only a few memory tags, I think I can make an exception. Thanks again! n


### Human: PF70 and Purge feature Greetings, Is it possible to set the purge feature up on an effluent tank so that if there is a failure of the float valve to the PLC; that the drive can go into purge mode to switch on at a high level limit switch and off at a low level limit switch? I have a customer wanting to set something similar up in a Wastewater treatment plant, but they also want to be able to go into manual control mode as well. Any suggestions are welcome. ### Assistant: Hi, just a question.... how do you want to control the drive in automatic mode (I mean the start and reference control) ? - fuzzy logic Since your hard limits are defined by level limit switches, you make the condition to turn on (high level) and latch in the drive to run. The condition to turn off would be either an operator to stop or the low limit to drop it out. Hi fordtt, That's what my customer would be looking to do; use a lower limit switch to shut the drive off. Hi fuzzy logic, My customer's Automatic Control will be via a Logix (RS5000) processor on Ethernet. I think that I did come up with (with help) a solution that will allow for my customer that will allow for him to have the various control, by using a PF70 drive and its full range of programming features. Thanks for the help guys kudos to both. Cheers. Ok, thanks for your feedback, just it will be useful to know how you've solved it.... :smileywink: My idea was to connect the limit swithes like indicated in the screenshot below; normal automatic control from network comm card, emergency manual control using 3 wires scheme (when tank is empty, the Low limit switch closes and will start the drive, when the tank is empty the High limit switch will open and stop the drive) It is just an idea.... there are some other things to consider, i.e. the needs to bypass the High Level LS when in Automatic mode, otherwise the drive would not start... and also to open the connection from the Low Level LS in Auto mode to avoid unwanted starts... :smileytongue: this could be obtained using an Auto / Manual selector switch... - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy, Believe it or not, what I was looking at doing was very similar to what you were suggesting... What I had gone with (along with help from others) is this; Auto mode from PLC control; use Purge mode for the hi / low level swithes and Speed select 2; and then as a third option (customer request) manual / hand mode (we plan on having an HOA configuration included). So, in full auto mode, PLC is controlling drive speed and tank level via level sensor; in auto mode, but with failed level sensor, PLC puts drive into Purge mode, and then we still have the option to go to manual / hand mode via selector switch on front panel of drive panel. In this mode, the drive can be controlled via start, stop and POT for speed reference. The third mode is only used in extreme situations, of near catastrophic controller failure. I don't really have anything properly drawn up to share, but I hope from my brief description above it is enough to go by. Have a good one,Cheers :smileyhappy: Thanks to add your comments and ideas.... really appreciated. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Panel View Plus 1000 Can a live videow feed be viewed with a panel view and if so how ? ### Assistant: Depends on the platform you are using. Is this a computer, a PV+ or a PVCE? If you are running on a computer or PanelView Plus CE, see tech note 40078 for instructions on how to use a WebBrowser ActiveX to view images from a camera. If you are just wanting to display some media file, as in some pre-recorded video file you want to play using something like Windows Media Player, I don't think there is a way to do that. Hi Johnathan I cannot access the technote is there another way you can send me the info please. That's strange because if you're seeing this thread, you do have a TechConnect contract... try to use this LINK, otherwise ask a Moderator here to check your profile / account. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic we do have a contract but it still doesnt work on that link :( :smileysurprised: Last chance... http://rockwellautomation3.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/40078 - fuzzy logic Nope :( If you want send me you e-mail address via Private Message here in the Forum, I can send you back the technote... - fuzzy logic aint my day !!! got a conflict with you and someone else with the same name and it just locks into a loop when i try and message you Something is getting better.... I've just sent you the e-mail.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Just forwarded a kudos to JonathanKent as the suggestion comes from him... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Ultra 100 - DeviceNet Is anyone ever faced problem during download to network (DeviceNet) and had error message code  EDS 2011. The error message description as follow: Node 4 communication error (0xC)'Error response received: Device state conflict.; SCIA(0x10, 0xF, 0x2D, 0x1), Param45 Thanks ### Assistant: This may be due to the drive being in an ENABLED state, as certain parameters can only be written to when the drive is DISABLED.The drive should be DISABLED either via terminal rail or Ultra Master software. The download can the be attempted again. - fuzzy logic I checked my copy of RSNetworx and Parameter 45 for an Ultra 100 is Encoder Lines. That definitely sounds like a parameter that cannot be set while the drive is enabled. Download to Network does not load any network-wide parameters in DeviceNet like it does in ControlNet. All it does is go through all the devices in the RSNetworx project and load their offline parameter values into the online devices. In my opinion, there should be several are you sure dialogs before this feature can be invoked. There are quite a few devices that can't have their parameters changed during certain operational or network modes, so those can't be included in a Download to Network series of downloads. Download to Network is also particularly dangerous if the offline project is incomplete or has old parameters in it. If you've gone online with a fresh RSNetworx project file but you have not uploaded from all the devices successfully, you will end up loading default parameters into any device that has been browsed but not uploaded. So be judicious in your use of the Download to Network feature. n


### Human: RSVIew23 I'd be very grateful if someone could please off some insight into why RSview32 Works is taking upto seven minutes to start up and also why when I enter a value into a numeric input field for an internal analogue tag the PC locks up and requires rebooting. ### Assistant: Try to take a look if Aid 36198 could help... also there is an old technote 6278 to check ... Otherwise, please indicate: RSView32 versionOS type and versionActivation type (FactoryTalk or Master Disk) - fuzzy logic Operating system on computer and service pack?? make sure you are doing maintenance at least once every 2 weeks... defrag the hard drive. If you are entering a tag value outside of or the wrong data type for a existing tag it may lock up. lock up is kind of subjective tho...blue screen or long access or hourglass or what?? n


### Human: New Project I'm being asked to develop a low budget project to control the temperatures in two high temp areas. (7-900Deg)I'm looking for some sample configurations and programs to consider/evaluate. ### Assistant: With the little information provided, I'd suggest some stand-alone temperature controllers such as the Allen Bradley 900-TC series. To be honest though, I'd reach for an Omron controller first. The pricing is lower, in my experience. That's my fault. Sorry. Temp controllers are always a consideration. I believe management is looking for something a little prettier than that. Now if you know of a temp controller that can be interfaced possibly over E-Net with a HMI/small PanelView I believe that would be what they are looking for. I guess I'm fishing for someone that already has a proven remote Temp controll configuration in production. (I hate the thought of reinventing the wheel.) We have it, buy it, and use it, but Allen Bradley and low budget is an oxymoron. What do you have? Where do you buy it? How do you use it? I don't care if it's A.B. or brand X as long as it employs a HMI and can monitor and control 4 zones. Ok so my temp programs control aluminum billet ovens. SLC 500 J type probes. 8000 degree range. You have asked about way lower temps. You have not said if it is contact temp control or ambient. Do you need PID, (how fast is the change of temp needed) Tell us your application and desired outcome. Lots of temperature things I use a temperature controller. Lots of them have output ability. You have to spell it out for us. You never really say what your budget requirement actually is but take a look at http://www.omega.com for low cost controllers. The i-Series (CNi16, CNi8, CNi32) has ethernet capability with free software. If you're looking for a standalone option, Omega usually has the best for process control on prices. Aluminum :Melting Point: 660.37 °C or 933.52 K or 1220.666 °F) 8000 Degrees??? Aluminum billet ovens? Boy does your screen name fit!!! So, as long as you are in the industry. I'm looking for a solution, specifically, to control Single Cell Die ovens used to preheat Aluminum extrusion Dies. 700-900°F That would be an ambient application, No PID (Unless energy conservation would justify it) Moderate hysteresis would be acceptable, Electric heat source, HMI / Factory Talk Project with the ability to select and control up to 4 ovens. Would it take a SLC to do that?? I would prefer to keep the processor at a minimum... The Omega i-series with its Web Server abilities has my attention. If you're really open then Omega offers multi-loop controllers as well. If you're set on using a PLC with HMI, use CompactLogix for the PLC. The added instructions for function block programming will be a blessing. You can use a Panelview Plus (or any panelview for that matter) for the HMI. Since you aren't requring PID control, my recommendation would to check out the Omega line and use the autotune function in the controller. Works VERY well. Chip wrote: Aluminum :Melting Point: 660.37 °C or 933.52 K or 1220.666 °F) 8000 Degrees??? Aluminum billet ovens? Boy does your screen name fit!!! So, as long as you are in the industry. I'm looking for a solution, specifically, to control Single Cell Die ovens used to preheat Aluminum extrusion Dies. 700-900°F That would be an ambient application, No PID (Unless energy conservation would justify it) Moderate hysteresis would be acceptable, Electric heat source, HMI / Factory Talk Project with the ability to select and control up to 4 ovens. Would it take a SLC to do that?? I would prefer to keep the processor at a minimum... The Omega i-series with its Web Server abilities has my attention.I must be on drugs or something. For sure you would get a melt down, but clean-up would be easy. LOL You could easily do it with an SLC or Compact logix. Especially since it it electric heat.You would just need 1, 4 channel thermocouple card 4 J type thermo couples and very little logic.If you used a compact logix controller you could make 1 AOI and use it 4 times. Here is another option.http://www.watlow.com/products/software/silver_series.cfm n


### Human: CPU Usage and Tasks Hi, I was wondering if anyone could shed a little light on the information presented in the Task Monitor Tool. I have an L61 CLX I am running a Continuous Task and a single Periodic Task which has a period of 60seconds. When I run the Task Monitor Tool is shows that the Periodic Task is consuming 94.11% (around that mark) of CPU and the Continuous Task consumes 0%. Now the periodic task runs for approximately 204uS after that I would have assumed that the CPU usage would have been handed of to NULL Task or Communications however it doesn't seem to be the case. Can anyone shed any light on this for me please. Cheers PS I can't figure out how to insert screen dumps in this post, when I do I will update the post. ### Assistant: The problem with designing such a Tool to calculate CPU utilization for a ControlLogix, FlexLogix or CompactLogix Controller is that the CPU is always at 100% because of the Continuous Task. It never stops executing and never has idle time.So the Tool is trying to Estimate CPU utilization based on the watchdog timer presets. It is also trying to figure which Tasks are accessed more frequently than others.Communications cards are different in that they can have idle time if they aren't handling any packets. So the Logix5000 Task Monitor Tool will display actual CPU percentages for comms cards if they exist in the chassis.For more information on determining CPU Usage Percentages. see the Logix5000 Task Monitor Tool HELP file or Answer ID 52108 Click Here For best results: Install and use version 2.3.4 of the Logix5000 Task Monitor Tool.Click here to download Logix5000 Task Monitor v2.3.4 If you have an earlier version of the Logix5000 Task Monitor Tool. Be sure to wait for the User Tasks to load, before switching to the other tabs. In the latest version you will have a more real time CPU utilization. Thanks Jamy appreciate the reply, I am back at work on Tuesday I will give the more up to date Task Monitor Tool a go. Actually, the continuous task does stop executing if the periodic task has a higher priority. The Continuous task by default (and cannot be changed) takes the lowest priority. If the only task is a continuous task, then you won't notice it but if a periodic task has a higher priority than the continuous, the periodic will interrupt the continuous to execute. If you monitor a specific task, you get the results of the processor when that task actually executes, not a running total of processor usage. When the periodic task executes, it may consume 94% of the processor time but only for 204 uS. If it was a true indication of your processor usage,then technically, your continuous task would never execute and your communications would be extemely slow or you'd get watchdog errors. KidPLC and all, fordtt is correct that any Periodic (or Event) Task has a higher priority than the Continuous Task and will interrupt it until complete. Periodic and Event Tasks also have higher priority than responding to comms requests (like from HMI, or MSGs from other controllers), so if the Periodic task is really taking 94% CPU, you would probably have very slow HMI comms, and RSLogix 5000 would respond VERY slowly, or even fall offline. The Task Monitor Tool gets its data from an object within the controller (like the other GSV/SSV objects, but not made available to the GSV instruction). This object collects data over a window that defaults to 500000 us (1/2 second). So every 1/2 second it publishes a summary of controller activities for the last window, then resets and waits 1/2 second collecting new data for the next report. Your Periodic Task executes every 60 seconds. In that 60 seconds, the object's Task data will be updated 120 times. 119 of those times, it should show the Continuous Task using any and all CPU not being used by messaging, I/O communications, responding to MSGs/HMI, safety tasks, redundancy, serial port comms, and all the other stuff that's monitored. If you don't have a ton of HMI activity, the Continuous Task should show more than 90% CPU. During that 1 time in 120 that your Periodic Task executes, the Task data will include non-zero data for your Periodic Task. If it really executes in 200-ish microseconds (not 200 milliseconds), then it would show 200 / 500000 * 100% or about 0.04% CPU. (A 200 ms execution would show 40% for that one capture in 120.) If you change the period of the Periodic Task to 500ms, you'll see that 0.04% in EVERY capture of task data -- then the Task Monitor Tool will be sure to see and display it. Let us know if the data reported by the updated tool make more sense. You should see 90+% Continuous (subject to comms, I/O, etc.) and ZERO percent Periodic, except for that 1/2 second capture every 60 seconds when the Periodic Task actually runs. Get back to us!Dale, W8ABZ Hi Guys, Thanks for the replies I appreciate it. I have today downloaded the latest Task Monitor Tool (2.3.4) and the new data, combined with the replies I have received, makes much more sense. I changed the periodic task period to 500ms and as W8ABZ calculated it does have a 0.03% cpu utililsation. The only thing that has not rung true is the 90+% usage on the continuous task it is quite low around the 1.3% mark. If I use the calc provide the percentage figure is correct. The program is running in a machine at the moment however I have the luxury of a test bench CLX L61 which I have down loaded the program to so I can play with it and modify the periodic task period as I please however since the test bench does not have a Panelview there is no HMI comms going on. Below is the screen dump of the test bench CLX with NO HMI comms Below is a screen dump of the running program in the machine WITH HMI Comms. NOTE: There will be slight differences in the scan time between the actual machine and the test bench as the test bench program has had programs and routines added for an upcomming machine upgrade. n


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