### Human: PF 70 ON COMMON DC BUS? HI ALLCAN PF 70 RUN ON COMMON DC BUS?DO WE HAVE DOCUMENTS FOR THIS?THNXS IN ADVANCE ### Assistant: PF70 has not DC bus terminals, therefore it cannot works with common dc bus.You may consider PF700. thanks for the reply but is there nyway by which we can get it done through powerflex 70 only? I know of several instance, ours included, in which AB supplie custom open-framed drives that had a common DC bus. Most of the industry is trying to get away from a common DC bus because of the difficulty in maintaining the drives and because AC drives are so inexpensive these days. If you must use a common DC bus, you may need to get a special order from AB. fordtt, don't know what you are talking about Most of the industry is trying to get away from a common DC bus because of the difficulty in maintaining the drives and because AC drives are so inexpensive these days., because that has nothing to do with it, it's got nothing to do with how cheap drives are either. In fact most manufacturers are making it easier to common bus. With loads that are constantly regenerating common bus or a regenerative system (not using DB resistors)....in my opinion is a must. Let me ask a question, if I have a constantly regenerating load, does it matter that I buy a high efficiciency motor and burn it off to a resistor or burn it in motor heat with a standard motor (I'ts amazing to me that I have witnessed energy saving standards that madated an efficient motor be put in an application for a motor which regenerated all day long to a huge db resistor)? To me it's a matter of what you are doing to recycle electricity that is constantly being regenerated! I will agree with you on contact Rockwell to see what they can or can't do. Let me add this, depending on the system it's actually easier to maintain sometimes as a common bus (load sharing) system. Sorry, still don't see as many new common DC bus schemes in place. Notice I didn't that there weren't any...but he's talking about the pflex 70 which typically are used for smaller loads (less than 50HP). We DO in fact, use common DC bus systems in large drive applications. Large HP drives usually come with options to convert to a common DC bus, esp. ABB, GE, and Siemens. Off-the-shelf AC drives are becoming less expensive, with more configuration options, more network options, than ever before. Also, why would you make a big deal out of putting an engergy efficient motor on a VFD? The drives can deliver 100% torque at 0% speed. A high-efficiency motor is only highly efficient if its ran toward the top of the motor curve...not at a lower speed. This has digressed past anyone's benefit but the point is, if you want a common DC system...find a drive that can be converted, not convert a drive that isnt designed to. ... I meant to post this with the last one but couldn't find it. We did a project last year with a common DC configuration to help mitigate upstream harmonics thoughout the mill. Check out tech id 17712 and also attached is a link from AB but it uses the 1336 drives instead: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/at/drives-at002_-en-p.pdf Hi! PF70 Frame E have +DC/-DC conections available. Please see 20A-UM001L-EN-P.PDF user manual page 1-9, figure 1.4.I don't know if these terminals are after or before the DC-BUS pre-charge, but you could find out with some measurements. Maybe tech support could aswer it. Maybe I'm wrong, but these terminals seems to be only Test Points, not DC input... just, frame E has two terminals dedicated in the terminal block... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Fuzzy,does that mean i can measure dc bus voltage level but can not connect it in a common dc bus configuration? Really I can't give an answer to the why these terminals are in the terminal block (maybe better to ask to Rockwell Drives guys). :smileysad:Anyway, I can suppose that there is no way to use that as a DC input teminals (as common DC bus configuration) also because there is no documentation available for that.In fact, in the Application Guide mentioned some posts ago in this thread, only you may find PF700 (or 40P...). Indeed it is quite old (2007) :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 1786-RPCD Topology and Usage To extend Cnet distance, which of the attached configurations is OK? Resized attached image smaller so it fit better on the page - JHutch ### Assistant: Have a look to the attached image; as you see, the configuration number two is documentedas correct in order to extend network distances. - fuzzy logic I have problem to edit my previous post.... :smileymad: Anyway, the above post image shows a series connection thru repeaters, to have a network much longer. We have used sometimes your Configuration 1 instead, for example in a case where we had an installed cnet with 16 nodes and a trunk line of 740 mt. already working; then we've added 5 nodes plus 100 mt. cable and the network had started to drop random nodes... we have putted only one RPA and one RPCD in the middle of the network and we have solved the problem !This cnet is working since three years without problems. Only be aware to respect maximum length as shown in the attached graphic and to install proper 75 ohm terminations on both segments and also on the RPCD channel that you don't use. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Transfering data to ControlLogix without using RSLinx I have been migrating my product from microprocessor to PLC control. The last hurdle is getting my customers design files (x,y data for motion) to the processor. I invested 6K on a crappy DDE/OPC interface which locked me into Linx OEM and didn't work. I have looked into Recipe Plus via ViewME. Are there any other options?Ideally it would be via a compact flash in the processor or PV1000+.Option 2 would be via windows based transfer or even processor driven access to c:.Help! ### Assistant: mmhhh... I can't see easy solutions to that... 1. Use RSLinx DDE server with macros from Excel2. ViewME with Recipe ActiveX (only on PC or PanelviewPlus CE), loading from text file and downloading to PLC (it seems quite easy to realize)3. Most complicated - DF1 protocol over serial port, with all the limitations you may think about :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Also another way, maybe... Expensive, I think, and quite complicated... adding a Prosoft module in the CLX backplane: see the link. http://www.psft.com/prosoft/products/for_rockwell_automation/platform/controllogix/mvi56_admnet - fuzzy logic Yep, I looked into the 1756-MVI and the places that took me. No thanks.The problem with the recipe plus is I'm not sure what the file looks like. I'll hold out for some more responses but look into recipe plus some more. I was editing my previous post with three solutions, it was imprecise... :smileymad:You can use an ActiveX realized for FactoryTalk ViewME...you may check for it here: http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=20462 With this you can import a .csv file into the runtime and then download it to controller tags. This may works for you; Recipe Plus I think is too complicated and not flexible to use in that manner. - fuzzy logic I know you said 'without RSLinx'; however - You could you the free tool (comes with RSLogix 5000 install) or from here: ID 32503It does require RSLinx Classic (all versions except Lite, ie OPC required). Also V17 of RSLogix 5000 comes with a tool now to do the same thing (again part of RSLogix 5000 install).However it works with all Logix and PLC types. Also very expensive, but you can use this: http://www.oldi.com/xcoupler_index.htmTransfer directly from/to Logix from/to any database. n


### Human: Transaction Manager: VMWARE Our facility is thinking about using blade center servers running VMWARE with a variety of Rockwell Software Products (RsSql, Transaction manager, RSMacc, RsLinx & etc...). Does anyone have any experience using Transaction Manager in a VMWARE environment? ### Assistant: We have been trying to get AssetCentre to run under on the Server under VMWare. So far it all works until we try to install the client software on our own PC. We haven't been able to get clients to work when AssetCentre Server is installed on VMWare. Also, getting support is tough, because as soon as the tech finds out that the server is on VMWare then they start pointing fingers that the issue is VMWare. We are currently working on putting the software on a server not using VMWare to prove that it works or not. As a side note, all of our Licenses are running perfectly under a VMWare instance. I don't have any specific information on AssetCentre, but from experience I can say that if VMWare is going to give problems, it is usually either in device drivers or in networking (the latter is where you're having trouble). Device drivers are usually not a big deal with Rockwell products... if you need to disable the sound card because the driver doesn't like VMWare ... oh, well. Networking though? That can cause problems. It'll be interesting to see how this works out for you, Craig. JHutch Although I have not ran Asset Center or Transaction Manage in VMWare, nearly all of my Rockwell Software, I have running in VMWare. A few things learned along the way. 1.) Don't use the dongle activation, it doesn't work. Mount the FTA license to a mac address or disk instead. 2.) Watch your networking. A lot of people toss out NAT so they can have multiple VMWare images on the same machine easily... that NAT will kill your client server relationships. (unless you have the a client VMWare image that you are hosting on a TS hosting that virtualized client.) 3.) Not all drivers will work, particularly anything old using direct addressing like a DNet card... just do all your communications on ethernet and it will be much easier. 4.) As for pointing fingers. When working with multiple products like this, I always get both partys on the line. So get VMWare's Support on the line and Rockwell's to collaborate. Otherwise you could get the pointing fingers syndrome. We run RSLogix, RSLinx, RSSQL, RSNetworx Suite, FTView SE etc on VMWare mainly in design environment. Regarding AssetCentre, our server is running on a physcial machine but two of the clients run in VMWare. The only problem I had was networking issue. I am not a networking gru but If use NAT in VMWare, you are likely to have problems with any multicast/UDP traffic. (Someone please correct me here if I am talking non-sense.) So we run most of our VMWare images in Bridged mode instead. im developing a system now in vmware. it is rsview32 with RAD server, messenger and trendX on it. so far the main problem we have is the log in. if you log out, it stops the services. since you have to do everything at console level, leaving the console logged in is an issue. once I try to remote intoit with the same credentials it creates a separate instance. Ican see the services running on the server but not the actual programs. many times since setting up the vmware server i have gotten onsite to update graphics and had the server logged out for random time periods. im not really seeing much benefit over using a vmware server over a standalone workstation locally. so far, it has been a time waster for both me and the customers IT dept. Unfortunately, the Assetcentre Server and AssetCentre Client on VMware does not work properly because the Os on VMware does not start all services in correct order what is very important for the FTAC service. That is only the reason why AssetCentre Server/Client is officially not supporting in VMware environment As of right now, NO Rockwell Software products are supported in VMWare. Can they run with some level of confidence? We have found inconsistent results and situations when running Bizware products and FTAssetCentre in VMWare. n


### Human: Who to delete recipes from HMI Client? Hi all, does anyone know how to delete the recipes from the RSViewSE V4.0 HMIClient? in StandAlone application. I try to delete the file .rcp through VisualBasic, this delete the file but is not removed from the project. I found a tool (SEAddcomponent) to add components to a project, Will there be a SEDelComponent? ### Assistant: Unfortunately there isn't a manner to do that, at the moment. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic PsyCrow, the only way to delete a recipe would be to have the SE client computer run RSView Studio. Theoretically you could configure FT security to prevent an operator from making changes to things he should not. Not a good solution, but that's the only one. I really miss the RSView32 object model in cases like these :smileysad: n


### Human: Memory Module 1762-MM1RTC Hi Mr. Fuzzy Logic... I'm sory, don't found the board wich you told about...But my trouble is the follow: I need proced a download to a module memory, is this posible? My program has so much strings data, and it so large for the controler memory... Did you understand? Rafael... ### Assistant: Rafa, unfortunately, there is no way to expand the PLC memory using external Memory Module... that module is only for application Backup. :smileysad: Your PLC has 6k total memory, but maximum 2k for data... only you may check if it is possible to delete some tags address that are not used (maybe you have created a data file with 250 tags and you use only few of those tags in the program) Have a look to the image posted... using this feature of the software, it is easy to check from where you may recover some space. Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Ok Fuzzy Logic... I Understood... Thanks for help me...I will check if is possible to delete some data from my program...Thanks again... Rafa... n


### Human: IAB 7.3 problems with stratix 8000 Hi ! I',m using IAB 7.3 and there is a problem when I try to connect devices to a stratix 8000 with two expansion modules (+16 ports). I am only allowed (by the software)to connect 8 ports, then the option to connect more dissapears. Is anything I am not doing well ? Thanks ### Assistant: You're right... I get the same issue... :smileymad: It seems to be a bug... only workaround I've found is to add the new devices from the Network Tab, dragging them to drop in the Network view. Then you may configure your node as usual in the Hardware view :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Compact Logix Setting Ethernet Parameter from PanelView Have anybody wrote a a code in RS Logix5000 to set IP parameters from PanelView for L35E or L32E controllers? ### Assistant: I hope to have well understood your request...:smileytongue: So you want to change the IP address of a CompactLogix Ethernet/IP port from a Panelview ... Have a look to the following technote:Aid 27917 I think you may write the IP address and other parameters requested for MSGs, configuring tags in Panelview, add some logix in RS5000 to move the appropriate values to the right tags and then you may start the CIP messages from a button. Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: PowerFlex 70 Parameter Upload/Download From Control Logix PLC I am controlling several PF 70 VFD's via Ethernet using the 22-Comm-E module and would like to upload and download the entire drive parameter set from the Control Logix PLC to make drive replacement easier. Does anyone have PLC code written for this application? ThanksGreg ### Assistant: Greg, this Premier Integration feature(ADR - Automatic Device Replacement) was planned for V17 of RSLogix5000, but I think it has been moved out to next versions of software, as I can't get informations on that in the V17 release notes.This will solve the needing to connect to the substituted drives to download parameters using RS5000 Premier Drive Integration or Drive Executive; it will do the parameter download automatically when the devices become active on the network and its key corresponds (also you need PF drives with last firmare version in order to support this function...i.e. PF700 VC 6.002 and newer, PF70 I can't find notice on ADR in the last frn) Anyway, to do this using ladder is difficult...you have only CIP messages, but they write only one parameter at a time... :smileysad: I found a technote (really is for PF4x) that explane how to use a MSG instruction to have more parameters read/write.Aid 50148 Really I don't know if it works also for PF7x...if you want you may try, having as reference the 20-COMM user manual in the link, at page C16. User Manual But still this is not a simple and quick way to get what you need... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Tag browsing What we have is a L64 processor that is deep into the yellow of the used memory. The system has already 3 processors 2 for motion and the third for the logic and recipe information. The the recipe tags are 6 UDT's that contain 50 potential Models for a total of 300 Recipes. These 6 UDT's use about 10 M of data. We have come up with two solutions and would like some feed back:The current batch look through UDT 1 for a match then UDT 2 then 3 so on so on till it finds a match. It then copies the Data to a tracking area that follows the part though the system. This way each we can have differnt models with different options through out the line. Solution 1:Can I have the batch search a fourth Processor tags as if it were it's own that would contain the Model data tags directly over the back plain and copy the matching Models information to its Tracking area. Solution 2:Create a Produced tag in the original Processor that asks the Data processor for model information. Then the Data Processor would search the 6 UDT areas for a match. When one is found copy the Model Data to a produced tag along with a complete hand-off bit. Then the Original Processor would consume this data after seeing the complete bit. Then copy this information to the necessary Tracking area. After completing the copy clear the hand-off tag. There’s probably a bit more to the steps of solution 2. I’m confident we could get it to work the main question is about solution 1. Is that possible to brows the tags of a different processor as if they where you own tags. ### Assistant: capple, I think solution 2 is the only. It isn't possible to browse directly tags that resides in another controller using RS5000... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic I though so but I knew I would get a concrete answer here Thanks The Produced/Consumed tags did not work. The size of 1 Model_Data is 20K. So now I am using a Message (CIP Data table Read) now my dilemma is to change the Source Element during Run Time. I need this to be an Indirect Tag but it did not accept one. So far the work around I found was to make a pointer array of 300 Strings then call the pointer that contains the required String and copy it to the Mesage_Control.RemoteElement. Now the question is how do I eliminate the array of 300 strings and just make some kind of move instruction to move a tag like:S001.Model_Data[Indirect Number] <<<< UPDATE>>>>I came up with a solution and thought I would share Using the DTOS and INSERT Instructions.I haven’t cleaned this up to a final project but here is what I tested. // Update Line A Model Dataif S100.Batch.Data.Order[1].Model_Number[0]=S001.Model_Data[1].Model_Number then Batch_Search.Control[1].Search_Required:=0; Line_A_Search:=0;else cop(S100.Batch.Data.Order[1].Model_Number[0],Batch_Search.Model_Name[1],1); Batch_Search.Control[1].Search_Required:=1; Line_A_Search:=1;end_if; // Prepare MSG Remote Data Location If Line_A_Search then if Model_Location.S001>0 and Model_Location.S001<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S001,SourceB[1]); Insert(SourceA[1],SourceB[1],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S001.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S002>0 and Model_Location.S002<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S002,SourceB[2]); Insert(SourceA[2],SourceB[2],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S002.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S003>0 and Model_Location.S003<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S003,SourceB[3]); Insert(SourceA[3],SourceB[3],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S003.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S004>0 and Model_Location.S004<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S004,SourceB[4]); Insert(SourceA[4],SourceB[4],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S004.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S005>0 and Model_Location.S005<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S005,SourceB[5]); Insert(SourceA[5],SourceB[5],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S005.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; if Model_Location.S006>0 and Model_Location.S006<=50 then Dtos(Model_Location.S006,SourceB[6]); Insert(SourceA[6],SourceB[6],17,MSG_Control_1.RemoteElement); //SourceA = S006.Model_Data[], SourceB = 1-50 end_if; else cop(SourceB[0],SourceB[1],6);end_if; Then I use a MSG to get the Value of the desired Model_Data n


### Human: PowerFlex 4 Motor overload Current setting (P033) What should parameter P033 (Motor overload current) be set to relative to the motor nameplate current?Somebody told me to enter motor nameplate current times 1.5 which seems high to me. ### Assistant: AJZ, as per PowerFlex 4 User Manual, P033 takes already care of a percentage over the Current you set there... so you have to put in the Motor Nameplate Current, and the drive will fault if the value of this parameter is exceeded by 150% for 60s or 200% for 3s. Seems that they use this default calculation to have only one parameter to manage the OL instead of a parameter to define the Motor NP Current and another parameter to define the Overload Current, living to you the responsability to define the correct value to put inside... :smileytongue: Hope this helps....- fuzzy logic n


### Human: Extracting data from RSView32 into Excel or Access All, I am a newbie to RSView32. I am being tasked to generate various reports contaning KPI's like downtime, ### Assistant: Just a small correction – RSView32 does not run on a VB script – rather it has available VBA if a user requires scripting. I would suggest avoiding the use of VBA if you are not comfortable using it, and do not want to invest the time to learn it. Rather play to your strengths and use SQL. How about using the extensive data logging options (periodic, on change etc) to log any data required by the reports you have to write (this can be placed in an SQL DB, via ODBC connector). Then write reports (or MS reporting services) in SQL to using the logged data to provide the reports you require. XLReporter from sytech is one way. thereportcompany.com if you are intent on doing it all yourself, there are resources for vba online, as well as the help file to figure out the syntax/ commands needed to open the excel file, give it focus and dump the data. after writing a report that populated everyhour for a year and trying to troubleshoot the 25th hour hit at midnight, i bought the xlreporter program and set it up. pretty slick. they were encompass for a long time, not sure if they still are. if not, sorry for bringing it up. I need to solve the same task to create KPIs reports from RSView32 Server. I consider if it's possible to use standard dbf files and through ODBC get the data to MS Excel. I created ODBC system DSN but it does not work. Dbf files are open and quicker solution than SQL. Do you have any of you any experience to get data from dbf historical logs into MS Excel? I would like to use SQL Server Express but I'm afraid of performance of Server's hardware. Not sure why the ODBC option is - 'does not work'; however it will be slower as there is a buffering period before updating the database. But this option is more for reporting rather that real-time reports. You can reference: ID 46314 RSView32 - Edit and Save DataLog (DBF) file in Excelhttp://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=46314&p_created=1195193114 This is a manual process - however it could be automated - but guess what that brings us back to writing VBA code. SQL Server Express is not a good option for generating repoerts from, unless is only local low level reporting. Don't know if this will give you the format you want, but there is a way to get data from a datalog model into Excel without VBA. You could configure the datalog model to log to ODBC, then embed an ODBC query within Excel I've used the solution from tech note 29789 with great success. You can even filter the data so you don't see those annoying B and E records marking the beginning and ending of logging. It also allows you to see the tag name instead of the tag index number. It's been a great solution for me, maybe it will work for you as well. Linkified for convenience - JHutch n


### Human: BRU 500 and motor interface Would someone help me by giving, or diecting, a file call EC COMM which helps to interface the IBM compatible with the BRU 500? Many thanks ### Assistant: I believe this software is available, but not on any web site for download. My suggestion would be to asked the question through the Knowledge base. In that way, a case number will be assigned to it and a response/email could get it to you. I'm agree with deekster... also consider that the product is still covered by TechConnect Support, as you may see at following link, under Legacy Hardware products. :smileysurprised: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/services/remote/techconnect/coverage.html - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Cannot edit graphics Our client upgraded from RSView SE CPR7 to CPR9 and the HMI server seems to be working well. I have also upgraded my Studio to CPR9. Previously we VPN'd to modify the graphics. Now after the upgrade, I cannot pull up any graphics to modify. It starts to pull them up and then Studio exits. Just closes....no alerts, errors, or anything. Nothing in the diagnostic viewer on the server either. I can remove graphics from the project, add users, etc. but not modify graphics. It even bombs during migration of another graphic. The DCOM settings on the new server are different than before. Under COM Security>Access Permissions>Default there is only SELF and SYSTEM where the original configuration there was also NETWORK and INTERACTIVE. Seems we had to add these during the initial configuration. An engineering/HMI station that also has STudio loaded can modify the graphics without any problem. I'm thinking there is a permission problem with the DCOM security but not sure. I can type the IP address http://10.10.10.10/rsviewse and get the RSView IIS page so it seems IIS is working ok...also the plant is running from the new HMi server so everything on their side seems to be working ok. Anyone have any ideas....? ### Assistant: If this was a DCOM problem, I might expect to see an error either on the client's or server's Windows System Event log. However, it wouldn't hurt to change these settings, reboot and see what happens. I tend to use tech note 36629 - it's overkill most of the time, but if you make those changes and it works, you can work backwards to tighten DCOM security. If you have the SE client installed on this Studio computer, you might try connecting to the HMI server and see what happens. If someone applied the patches from tech notes 51386 or 53972, that would have changed the graphics format. See tech note 55416. So maybe these graphics are incompatible with your version of Studio? You might also try deleting your temporary internet files, though if this was the problem, I'd expect to see an error popping up. Hope one of these solves your problem. Linkified for convenience - JHutch Thanks for the tech ID note. After perusing around on the HMI server and looking at the installed packages, I found the culprit....the RA rep loaded CPR9 SR1 (Service Release 1) of FactoryTalk Services Platform. The patch he said was installed actually ISN'T installed since the roll-up patch for FTSP is for CPR9 and not CPR9 SR1...the patch is incompatible. So...I uninstalled my version of factorytalk services and reinstalled factoryTalk services platform CPR9 SR1 and it worked fine. Thanks again for the response. When someone else reconfigures a working system and then you have problems...it's tough to find where to begin as everything has to be treated as suspect. n


### Human: Active X in RsView Studio Hello! I need to add the activeX iscopeX in RsView Studio.But when I try to add it, I have to browse an OCX file. I think that i need the iplotlibrary.ocx.Is this OK?Where can i find it?? Thanks ### Assistant: Hi... I don't know this ActiveX but, around in the www I've found some link to evaluation copies of that. http://www.componentsource.com/products/iocomp-ultra-pack-activex-vcl/downloads.html http://www.iocomp.com/Downloads/Evaluations.aspx Or here to order it.... http://www.iocomp.com/shop/shopdisplaycategories.asp?id=12&cat=ActiveX%2FVCL But I guess you already know this links...:smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Panelview 600 standard keypad software We have a 2711-k6c1 panel view. This one is a 16 bit unit and does not have the PCMIA port on the back. We need to upload the application file from the unit. Does anyone know which software we use for this? Was there a PB16? ### Assistant: Yes Buck, there was... older Panelbuilder version (if I weel remember until 2.60 ...or 2.80) was 16 bit.After that, from 3.20 version, it become Panelbuilder32. You need that older software for your Panelview. If you have not, try to call in the Technical Support to see what it is possible to do. - fuzzy logic Thanks. I thought there was. These days though I seem to suffer from CRS. Anyway, does turn out the firmware version of the PV is 2.6. n


### Human: Drives in 2-wire control on controlnet? I have 18 nos of drives Pf-70 on controlnet and they are being hardwired controlled using 2 wire control.Now i can start the drive from panel but after changing the drive reference to controlnet it doesn,t get start command from clx on controlnet.The drive shows stop owner as digital input.any solutions? ### Assistant: Hi vikas... please check the following parameter, if you haven't a wire connected to terminal 1....or connect this terminal to +24Vdc.By default it is configured as STOP, so the drive cannot start if it is not closed (STS flashes orange) - fuzzy logic n


### Human: SMC Flex ethernet/IP integration Hello ! I was thinking in integrating SMC flex with 20-COMM-E (ethernet/ip) in a project but wasn't able to add them to my IAB project. I know they can work, but it's very extrange that they don't appear in the list of ethernet/ip devices !!. If somebody knows anything about please reply.Thanks !! ### Assistant: just check whether your ip address configured in i/p devices is correct.it may be a reason. Hi josepss, indeed this issue happens also on my IAB....:smileysad: You have the possibility to create a Generic Ethernet/IP device, defining for it the Name, Description, Hardware Image, Network Image etc... using Configure Device.Procedure is to add a Generic Ethernet/Ip device, right click on its image, Configure device, define all you need, export.Then go to User Device, Import and you have your device available.Remember that the .png images of the object should be inside IAB Custom Graphics folder in order to work. If you want I may send you the export file and the icons, just to start, and then you may modify them as you want; just send me a Private message in the forum with your e-mail. Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Thank you fuzzy logic. The sollution proposed for you is working ! :smileyvery-happy: EDIT: Removed personal name at fuzzy's request. - JHutch n


### Human: Best Way to Fire an Event Based on a Tag Change? Over the years when using RSView32, I have often needed to fire an event based on a tag value changing (i.e.: Tag1). In the past, I would handle this by adding an additional storage memory tag to store the last value (i.e.: Tag1LastValue) of the tag I am interested in monitoring - my expression in the Event Editor would then be Tag1 <> Tag1LastValue. The problem with this approach is that it requires an additional memory tag for each data change event I would like to monitor. Is there a better way? Thanks! ### Assistant: Using the Event Detector, it isn't possible to fire an event on a Value Change as you would; following a note from KB that explain how this kind of event is limited: The Event Detector does not support a value change event. If the tag value being monitor transitions between 0 and some value, then it is possible to use the Event Detector in a value change mode. If the tag value is changing and always results in a true condition, (true represents any non-zero number), then event can only fire once. Only way is to use some VBA code containing the VBA Event <ValueChange>. Two KB notes can be useful for you: Aid 5261 - Event Detector VS VBAAid 3325 - VBA sample to catch a fast event Anyway, I don't think this solution will let you use less memory than your usual method... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Thanks for the response fuzzy logic... I was not aware of this method to handle changes with VBA (normally, I would place a text box on the screen (hidden by color), link it to a tag, and then use the text box's change event). I will definitely give this alternative method a shot. Thanks again. Still surprised that Rockwell does not have a simple Data Change event though! n


### Human: ISA71.04 and Tropicalised Treated Standard Hi all experts, anyone can confirm me ControlLogix is certified with the above standard? If so, anyone can provide the certificate/reference for me to download? Other Allen Bradley's PLC have these standards as well? ### Assistant: b43165, have a look to the following links; some products meet that standard, but in order to specifically know which products are available, then please contact your Rockwell representative to get more infos on products you need. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/pp/gmse00-pp011_-en-e.pdf Aid 21727 - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Time Problem in datalog and Datalog problem. Hello, I'm a new member at this forum. And I hope that I choose the write topic. We use RSVieuw 32 - Works 5000 at our company. I'm currently trying to make the data log that’s recorded by RSVieuw visible in Excel. Everything is working well! But I have one question. When I open the DBF file (database file) in Excel There seems to be a problem with the time registration. We log every minute. This works fine until the hour ends. Then the time registration go's to 0:00 and will be like this for 12 minutes. This error occurs every hour. After the 12 minutes the time will count further Example :10:00 0:00- 0:00- (for 12 minutes)10:13 The reason I want to fix this is because if I want to make a chart in excel the time line gives an error. Is there any mod or update available for this problem? We run RSVieuw sins 2003 and have never updated it. We have also a problem with the database length. I want to log a week in 1 DBF file. Here fore you need 10080 Rows60 min X 24 hour X 7 day’s = 10080 Rows. It looks like that the DBF file is limited until 6 day’s Is it possible to change this to 7 day’s ? Thanks for your answer! ### Assistant: R.Nieling, unfortunately I have found any information on your strange issue about time recording... maybe other users have seen this problem in the past ...About Datalog limitation, I think the problem is elsewhere, you may log 1 billion records max... also excel limit is about 65500 rows.. My suggestion is to upgrade your current version of RSView32 software, maybe these problems will solve themselves with new installation files. :smileytongue: I'm afraid to not be much helpful... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Hello fuzzy logic , Thanks for the quick reply!The time question is solved. It was no problem form RSVieuw but from Excel. The problem with logging is “Solved”. We did not see that RSVieuw logs from Sunday till Saturday. That was our mistake! Sorry! How can we change it to a data log from Monday till Sunday? (7 days a week) Thanks for your answer! R.Nieling, you may try the procedure explained at page 7-28 / 7-29 of the following User manual for RSView32 : http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/um/vw32-um001_-en-e.pdf Hope this helps... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures) for SLC Hi all experts again, appreciate if someone can confirm me the list of MTBF values for only SLC and its I/O? I couldn't find it via your web, only ControlLogix and PLC5 series have all the MTBF. Much appreciate of the reply... ### Assistant: Some informations here: http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/archive/index.php/t-27810.html As you see, best way is to ask Rockwell Support the specific module info... maybe thru Ask a Question in the Rockwell Knowledgebase. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Passwordprotected display in FactoryTalkView ME ?? Hi everybody. I'm using FactoryTalkView ME 5.0. PanelView 700. Is it possible to make passwordprotected displays ? I would like the option -GOTO CONFIGURE BUTTON- to be protected. Had a look at the Login/Logout issue, but didn't quite mannage to figure it out. No other display needs to be protected. Thank you. ### Assistant: Here we are ! Of course you may do this... :smileyhappy: Have a look to the following technote.... should be all that you need to know about security in FactoryTalk View ME. Aid 33153 Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic Hi -fuzzy logic.Thank you for the answer. I managed to fix the problem my self. Found the Technote you have written. Thank you anyway :smileyhappy: Scarecrow_666 n


### Human: MS Objects always on top I'm using FT View Studio SE. I have a screen with a mix of MS objcts (such as Text Boxes and Tab Strips) and standard HMI object (such as rectangles, panels, text, etc). In design mode everything looks the way I want it but when I run the picture in the View Client all of the MS objects are always on top of the other standard picture graphics. Is there any way to change this behavior so that MS objects can be behind other graphics? Thanks for any help or input. ### Assistant: Well, if any of those MS Objects are dynamic in anyway (they have animations associated, or embedded tag variables, etc, etc), they will always jump in front. Just a guess as to what is happening in your case. JHutch Thanks for the thought but none of my MS Objects are animated with tags, variables, etc. Everything they do or show is controled by VBA in most cases. In some cases there isn't even any VBA. I'm starting to think that it's a FT View thing and there's probably no way around it. So, instead of a Panel with text objects on it I'm using a VBA form and that's getting me the effect I want for the most part. n


### Human: ATEX Directive 99/92/EC AB Sensors Does any of the AB sensor product line carry the European ATEX directive 99/92/EC with a zone 2 rating.The standard for if the sensor can be use in a possible explosive atmophere. Thank You ### Assistant: ozziez23, you may find the Rockwell Product Certification for ATEX at this link: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/products/certification/ex/excert.html Also, a catalog of the sensors indicated in the cerification table at this other link: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/ca/ex_id-ca001_-en-p.pdf Hope this helps.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Fuzzy Logic, Thanks for you help, I'm a new product manager at Rexel in Ohio and I'm not up to speed yet on the Knowledgebase or the ExtraNet. n


### Human: PF700 Analog Output I have a project where I am reading output power from a PowerFlex 700 series A VFD (part number 20B D 077 A 3ANNANA0) over the analog output connection. I am scaling this value between 0 and 90 kW. My customer complains that at a no load situation the display from this scaling will be around 1.5 kW, while the HIM will display about .8 kW. If this is normal can you help me with an explanation? ### Assistant: DMM, it would be helpful to know how the parameters related to the analog out have been configured (i.e. par# - value) and also some informations about the analog in you use (is it a PLC module, which, which input range etc.). The more infos you put into your posts, the more help you can expect to receive from other users... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Par# 340 =xx11Par# 341 = xx11 Par# 342 = 5Par# 343 = 20mAPar# 344 = 4mAPar# 354 = 90 Analog input is not used, thus using analog output to simply represent output power. When drive is not running HIM displays .8kW, thus is there a hidden parameter for calibration as in the 4 class series? Thanks DMM, about Analog Input... I was meaning the device you use to measure the Analog Output coming from Drive :smileywink: It isn't clear to me if the .8 Kw value you have on HIM is with drive running at 0 Hz reference, or with drive stopped; if the case is the last, maybe the analog out is defective or the firmware of your drive has a bug in that parameter.If as I guess (and hope) you get this with drive running, I think could be an imprecision of the sensor with this low level of output.Unfortunately I don't know if there is an hidden parameter as that mentioned by you to calibrate the output.You may consider to correct this offset in your Display...if it is possible :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RSView SE Application Backup I have aRSView SE Distributed application with Redundant Servers. How to backup the application? ### Assistant: Prabhat, it is not clear to me if you need to backup your Studio Se project to restore in the destination servers (deploy) or just backup a loaded server.Anyway, I will indicate you some technotes that may help on those needs... Aid 26702 - Aid 30310Aid 43543 - Aid 23130 Also an useful cumulative technote for Redundancy guidelines: Aid 27105 Hope this helps....:smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RSView Studio and Symbol Fatory Active X I deployed to a new computer. Restored the APA file and all of the connection tags for the symbols used by the OEM do not show up on the connection tab. ### Assistant: Ron, restoring an APA file isn't enough to have the Activex available in the new pc... :smileysad: you need to manually install the Symbol Factory Activex also on that computer. I think you may use RegSvr32 Windows command to install your ActiveX, BEFORE restore operation of your application. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic WE tried this and it did not help. Called the OEM and found that the version of Symbol factory we purchased was newer then the one they used to develop the application. Registered a copy of the OCX that I got from the vender and all is working now. Thanks n


### Human: AB Bulletin 140U MCCB - CE marked The new A116 IC catalog shows that all the 140U MCCB frames, except the K frame (400A) are CE certified, but the product profile (140U-PP002B-EN-E) shows all 140U MCCB Frames are CE certified. Is or is not the 140U MCCB K frame CE certified? ### Assistant: I guess you've already found this information (post is quite hold) :smileyhappy: Just for reference, I was searching for this CE certifications today, so I'm posting a link to a KB note I've found on that. Aid 45105 - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RS View SE 4.0 Data Logging TO SQL Server I am trying to log data to a ODBC data base on a SQL Server. I have gone to the Enterprise manager on the SQL Server and added a new Data Base called DATALOG. I also added a New Login under security called RSView. THe logging RSView has been set for SQL Server Authentication and a password set the database to the DATALOG database. On the Database access tab of the Login the DATALOG database and RSView User were set to the database that can be accessed by this login. Permit in database roll is public and db_Owner. After that I went to the ODBC Data source administrator and set up a User DNS called SQL the used the SQL Server Driver. I set the server for Track-Historian which is where the SQL server resides. I used the SQL server authentication and typed in RSView and the password. I then set the default database to DATALOG. When testing the DATA Source the test completes successfully. After all of this I still can not seem to set up the ODBC in the data log. When I try to create tables it tells me the connection failed and askes for a user and a pass word I supply the user and password and the tables are created. I push the OK button to close the Datalog screen and I get a connection failed again. Any help on how to set up a data log to SQL server. I think I got the data source configured correctly the test succeeds ### Assistant: Ron, unless you have already seen it, there is a KB note that may help... Aid 39707 I hope... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Thanks, I missed that it was to be a System DSN and not a user DSN like I had set it up. I also found out that the SQL Server needed to be set up in mixed mode in security and I had to check that login is required in the Data Login Setup screen next to create tables. n


### Human: Device Box plugs We are using the 8 port device box as a standard; and plugging the unused ports depending on the application. I have been ordering extra accesory kits to get more plugs----is there a part number where I can order these plugs directly? ### Assistant: I guess you're searching the Plug and Nut to close the unused holes of you Devicebox. Answer is NO, there isn't a separate item code for those parts. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic They can be ordered with the following part numbers:1485A-C1 = mini cap1485A-C3 = micro cap or the following http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/ca/m116-ca001_-en-p.pdf Page 8-19and6-19 Regards BUS OFF No, these are not what I am looking for.The only way to get these from AB is to order the accessory kit---which is a waste since all I need are the hole plugs.However, I did find out they are made by HEYCO---all the DeviceBox fittings are; so you can find a local HEYCO distributor. Oh well thought the ones on 8-19 would fit deviceport, but if not then third party it is. Just to *close* this thread.... :smileytongue: Here a BOM of the 1485A-ACCKIT mentioned in the first post: Aid 24010 The two items aikorob uses from that kit are: 1 PGP16 THREADED PLUG 3 PGP9 THREADED PLUG As there isn't a code to order them from RA, aikorob has found the maker of these plugs, HEYCO. For reference, here a link to the HEYCO Data Sheet for some plastic plugs that fit on devicebox. Data Sheet I think also other third parties are available as a valid alternative to those plugs... as they are standard PG. :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: How to Create Circular Chart / Trend How to Create Circular Chart / Trend using Historical Data from FT View ODBC Datalog. In FTView SE there is Trends to display historical data as chart, can the same is converted for circular chart?. if data is collected & made available in any database, is there any workaround possible to create circular charts? ### Assistant: If you mean to have a graphical representation of an hardware Circular Chart, there isn't a way to have this inside View SE.Trends are only in linear representation. Maybe other third party software can do this, using a database exported as ODBC Datalog from View SE. Or you may try to search for a third party Activex to insert in your View SE application in order to do this. - fuzzy logic yes, requirement is to have graphical representation of an hardware circular chart. data singals given to the circular chart can be stored in any database.any VB or .NET application samples are avilable to address the need. n


### Human: Error message on PanelView + 1000 I get an error message on a numeric input, Enter Handshake Control did not reset the enter control. I've tried different settings under the timing tab but still occasionally get the error. Could someone point me in the right direction?? ### Assistant: wingman, may you please add some informations about the settings you've done in timing tab? Also, which tags you use in connection tab ? If you use Enter Handshake connection as I guess, how do you perform this handshake from PLC? Just to better understand your issue... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Here are the settings under the Timing tab. Enter Key Control Delay - 400ms Tried 0msEnter key Handshake Time - 4sec Tried 5sec, 6sec, 7secEnter Key Hold Time - 250msHandshake reset type - Non-zero I'm using the Value, Enter, and Enter Handshake tags in the Connections Tab. PLC Logic is like this: I have a XIC (Enter tag), OSR(Enter Handshake) then a MOV (Value to a different Integer Tag) wingman, it seems to be something wrong in how you use the handshake... :smileysurprised: You HAVE to use the Enter Handshake Tag to reset the Enter Tag, during the time you specify in Enter Key Handshake Time.This is why you get the error message... :smileysurprised: From User Manual: Set up the data source to send a non-zero value to the Enter handshake connection when it has read the new value at the Value connection, and then to reset the Enter handshake connection to 0.If the Enter key handshake time expires before the Enter handshake connection resets the Enter connection, an error message is sent to FactoryTalk® Diagnostics. That means your logic in plc should set for a while the Enter Key Handshake Tag when it receive the new Value. Also your logic to move the value should be:XIC (Enter tag), MOV (Value to a different Integer Tag) Or, if you want only hold the Value for a specific period of time, you have to remove the Enter Key Handshake Tag, so that the time in Enter Key Hold Time become active (I suggest in that case to have this time longer than 250ms). From User Manual:When the Enter key hold time has expired, the Enter connection is reset to 0 and the operator can send a new value to the Value connection. This time setting applies only if the Enter connection is assigned and the Enter Handshake connection is not assigned (in the Connections tab). Have a look to the following technote to better understand how handshake works: Aid 53465 Other indications on the ViewME User Manual, from page 21-13 to 21-16. Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic If I read it right, a more reliable way to do the PLC program would be to remove the OSR (Handshake Bit) and add a branch around the MOV, adding an OTE with the Handshake tag. One thing I don't understand with the current programming is this. The logic should work the way it is. When the enter key is pressed and picked up in the PLC, the OSR resets the enter key. I should only get an error if it takes longer than 4 seconds ( I get an error about 20 % of the time). I would think the handshaking process would take less than 4 seconds with a 18ms scan time. wingman, with your original logic, I think the duration of the One Shot over the Handshake bit is too short to have the PVP catch it... it is only ON for one PLC cycle.It is better in my opinion to leave it ON maybe 500ms/1s in PLC program. Remember that this time duration also depends from the Maximum Tags Update Rate you've configured in Display Setting where your Numeric Input is used... :smileysurprised: this setting defines how often the PVP update the Tags in that display, so your pulse should stay active at least for the time indicated there) Your error happens because the PVP NEVER read this One Shot (obviously it does not take 4 seconds to be set from PLC program :smileywink: ... so the problem is not related to the limit of time in which PVP needs to receive it, but its duration should be enough longer to let PVP to receive it). Hope it is clear.... :smileywink: Let me know if this solve the issue.... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: SLC-5/03 firmware 11 Did anybody already use a SLC-500 cpu with the new firmware 11 ? :smileysurprised:I'm interesting in the new protocol available on the serial port of the cpu, Modbus Master. Is it the same as Micrologix Controllers? I have to realize a connection from cpu to an operator panel and two AC drives, they have an RS-485 port and are all modbus slaves. My though was to use a 1761-NET-AIC to convert the RS-232 to RS-485, then connect all the slaves to the 6 pin plug phoenix connector of AIC+.May I consider the same as Micrologix example in Aid 25463 ?Any suggestion ? Thanks. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic ### Assistant: Fuzzy Yes the set up would be similar to the micrologix setup with the aic in place. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/1747-rm001_-en-p.pdfpage 12-24 has an example msg setup The KB referenced should work well for an example. Bus_Off, many thanks for your reply :smileyhappy: I hadn't seen yet this new Instruction Manual revision... very clear and helpful. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RSView32 7.4 & RSLadder5 Issue I am trying to use the RSLadder5 version 5 ActiveX control in an RSView32 version 7.4 (CPR9) application. I have followed the steps in the manual, but everytime I try to accept the properties window after selecting the .RSP off-line file the RSView32 software crashes with some type of memory exception. I searched the KB but nothing turns up. Any ideas? ### Assistant: aiki, I guess you've already solved it... :smileytongue: Anyway, if you've not solved this issue.... did you try the patch indicated in this Technote ? Aid 33749 - fuzzy logic I did get the issue solved, although it was with another tech note. But thank you for the follow up. n


### Human: RS 232???? Hi ALL, I am new one for PLC logics, what is meant by RS232???:smileyindifferent: Thanks & Regards Martin ### Assistant: Martin, RS-232 is a standard than defines electrical characteristics of a particular type of Serial Connection; usually you may find a serial port on a PC and many other programmable devices, as for example PLCs. Here you may find many informations on that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rs232 - fuzzy logic Thanking you.....Fuzzy logic:smileytongue: n


### Human: Is It Possible to Disable Touch Animation on an RSView32 Object? Hello all - I am really scratching my head here... I can't seem to find a way to dynamically enable/disable the touch animation for objects in RSView32. Am I missing something here? The only way I see to do it is by creating 2 of the same objects (1 with Touch animation, the other without) with Visibility animation to toggle which one should be displayed. ### Assistant: I think a solution could be to use an If-Then expression in the Touch Animation - Press action field... IF tag1 = 2 THEN Display TrendPage ELSE dummy_tag = 0 Using the above expression, the action for Touch Animation Press( i.e. display of a page) become active only if your condition (i.e. tag1 = 2) is true; otherwise, the dummy tag (unused) is reset; this last operation is needed because ELSE requires a command.... Hope this helps.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Hi fuzzy - thanks again for the response. I tried the following syntax in a test for the Touch animation: if DisableTag = 0 TouchTag = 1 else DummyTag = 1 I also tried the following: if DisableTag = 0 Set TouchTag 1 else Set DummyTag 1 and the same 2, both with then following the 1st part of the if, but no luck (I get errors in the Event Log each time). Am I missing something obvious here? Both expressions seems correct (as below indicated).... if DisableTag = 0 then TouchTag = 1 else DummyTag = 1if DisableTag = 0 then Set TouchTag 1 else Set DummyTag 1 May you please post the errors do you get ? - fuzzy logic Hey fuzzy - thanks for hanging in there with me... Here is the error I am receiving: Command or Macro if DisableTag = 1 then TouchTag = 1 else DummyTag = 1 is unknown. I tried with a double equals in the comparison and received the same error: Command or Macro if DisableTag == 1 then TouchTag = 1 else DummyTag = 1 is unknown. Really I'm trying these expression on RSViewSE... strange thing you have because the animation should work the same for both software... In RSViewSE also I need to add endif statement at the end of the expression... may you try this also ? if DisableTag = 0 then TouchTag = 1 else DummyTag = 1 endif - fuzzy logic Thanks for the suggestion - same result however :(... Based on the RSView32 User's Guide - it looks like if-then-else is supported in expressions, but there are no real examples provided of proper syntax. mmmhhh...:smileysad: Maybe the syntax in RSView32 is different in this case from RSViewSE... I will try during the day with RSView32 and let you know... - fuzzy logic pittpanther, here the syntax that works (tested with RSView32 v7.40) :smileyvery-happy: & TouchTag = If DisableTag == 0 Then 1 Else 0 So that TouchTag becomes true (1) when you *press* the object and DisableTag is false (0); otherwise TouchTag is reset to (0). Hope this works for you....:smileywink: Let me know... - fuzzy logic Excellent! Thanks a million fuzzy. Based on the RSView User's Guide, I had tried a similar syntax - but obviously not quite right. Thanks again! n


### Human: when use safety relay? I have designed many compressor control skid based control panels, normally, I wire the emergency stop push button into one of PLC input channel and use PLC code for shutdown process, but for some case, I saw other company put safety relay such as AB-MSR5T etc, can any body tell which industrial standard to tell us when safety relay is need? as my normal practice ( wire the Emergency stop into PLC DI channel) is right for compressor safety interlock? ### Assistant: I'm not sure you will find any document that will explicitly tell you when you to use a relay and when not to use a relay. It all depends on the risk assessment of the process or equipment. key things to ask is if your equipment can cause injury if it didn't stop. If so then you may want to increase your safety integrated level or SIL. Safety can be as simple as well tried components for simple equipment that is not likely to injure or if it does injure it is a very minor injury and exposure is rare, to very complex redundant systems. I hope this helps but it probably wont. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_Integrity_Level Hi kelvin, You are right. In our plant compressor panel same procedure is followed. To stop the compressor the signal is taken from emergency ( stop) connected through PLC.if you want more clarification in it. I will try to send you a ckt daigram.. Typically in the past, e-stops were hard-wired and could not pass through a software based piece of equipment. AB has, as others, a plc specifically designed for emergency stop applications. In using the Minotaur it's easy to set up a category 3 stop in which you have redundant paths for stopping the equipment. Also, it can detect any deterioration or integrity of the wiring and issue a stop as well. We use a DI into our plc to stop other equipment in an orderly fashion. NOT stopping this equipment would not jeapordize the equipment safety but would allow operators to easily start things back up. Here is a link that may help: http://www.theautomationbookstore.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/safebk-rm001_-en-p.pdf...hope this helps. n


### Human: ODBC Data Hello everybody!!! Well, I am trying to do a little report to a customer. How? I am using an ODBC DNS Microsoft Access Driver to send the data to a DBProduct.mdb, and using Access I will produce a report. Everythings looks good, but the Access file doesn't have any data. Why? Any idea? I am working with FactoryTalk View 5.00, Windows XP SP 2 and Microsoft Access 2002. If I show this file all the 3 tables are empty. I used that in the past without problem. I would be very glad to hear from you soon. With best regards, Yari ### Assistant: Yari, have a look to the following technote.... seems to be what you need :smileytongue: Aid 39707 Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, thanks for your advice. I had already seen this ID 39707. But the file wich is asociated with the ODBC stay always empty. As I said, this works with RSView SE 4.00 without problem, but with FactoryTalk View looks like the link with the ODBC doesn't work. A second file is generated but with the extension is .OBF where I could see all the data. So, any other idea? Yari Linkified for convenience - JHutch Jg Yari, I've setup an ODBC Datalog following step-by-step the procedure in the Technote, and this works fine (using FactoryTalk ViewSE v5.00)The .obf file is an ODBC Backup... data are logged in that file (path you have specified in Datalog Setup under ViewSE) when normal log in the ODBC database fails.Are you sure you have setup the use of SYSTEM DSN and not USER DSN in the ODBC Data Source Administration ?Also, be sure to click on Create Tables in Datalog setup, otherwise your .mdb files remains empty :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, I found the problem, something is wrong with my computer :smileysad:. I made the same in another computer and is still working without problem. Many, many thanks for your help and have a nice day. With best regards, Yari n


### Human: Zone 1 rated PLC? Hi, is there any rockwell PLC having hazardous rating of Zone 1/Class 1 Div 1? ### Assistant: No, there isn't a PLC that can directly be installed in this Hazardous area. Anyway there is the possibility to use some particular Distributed I/O (Flex EX) connected to the main PLC which resides in a safe area. Here a LINK to the FLex EX selection guide, which give you some examples of connection and all the needed infos about certifications. Also this other LINK for all the literature about those modules. Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic You also have to use the Ex power supply 1797-PS2N2 which is pricey. Also, Controlnet is the only comm. method for use in a hazardous area. You MUST use the Flex EX ControlNet Bus Isolator module 1797-BIC in your non-hazardous area to isolate your controlnet segment from the flex rack. There is a very small current limitation on the digital I/O modules which is about 45mA....too small to energize a 24V solenoid unless the coil is rated for use in that area. Some of ASCO's coils are electronic and only draws around 30mA so they might help. Other than these....works fairly well. Please select power supply carefully, I have made a application which calculated 24VDC power supply is within range, however, encountered a problem that when control system initial power up, maybe all IO modules together sunk too much current, some AI module can not be initialized ( keep blinking), I need took out and insert the AI module (1797-IE8) to reset this module P+F has similar power supply, however, size is huge and of course for the price is high.Kelvin n


### Human: 1756-SYNCH FO cable limitation according to SynchLink design guide ( publication 1756-TD008A-EN-P-Aug2002) page 3-10 and other references, the max length of fiber optical cable is 300 meters and cable splicing is not permitted, when we look at AB cable product 1403-CFxxx, all this cable are not armoured, it might be damaged when routine from one panel to 2nd panel, so what I am thinking the aroumed cable is required from 1st panel to 2nd panel, however, it required FO cable patch panel and cable splicing. so, if the two panels distance is more than 300 meters, is any better suggestion to solve the FO cable limitation? ### Assistant: nan n


### Human: 1756-IB16ISOE application did any body use 1756-IB16SOE module before, if there are 10 IB16ISOE modules installed at Redundant CLX remote IO, any controlnet traffic need consider for the design of network architecture? if you have some IB16ISOE application, appreciate if can email to me at liaotang@gmail.com ### Assistant: I've not a specific experience with these modules; just I'm posting some notes about Controlnet Planning. You may check for your Controlnet traffic, modules connections and other useful informations, also offline, doing the configuration of your network in RS5000 and scheduling it using RSNetworx for Cnet (launching it from inside local CNB/CN2 Module Configuration) Have a look to this *old* post. It is related also to the selection of NUT/RPI of your network. http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Drives&message.id=130#M130 Also consider carefully the Comm Format you need to use for your IB16ISOE modules, as this can create a very high bandwidth usage due to the high number of words to exchange with controller. Also here some notes about the use of these modules in a Redundant Configuration. Aid 29954 Hope this helps.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Hi, fuzzy logic:thanks very much, we use this module for the power plant circuit breaker and generator load shed, it need very fast response, I am worry about the SOE and SOE sort logic executing may take too long time and delay the load shed.this SOE module should be used in similar application world wide, unfortunatelly, it is the 1st time to me. I am afarid to lost some important design consider. there are quite No of KB at knowledge base I can go through. ...just to add two KB notes that may help :smileytongue: Aid 44779Aid 39761 - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 1757-SRM module can not syn I have 3 similar CLX redundant control systems, 2 systems are installed at control room, one system install at field UCP,which need all PLC module confiormal coated.Redundant firmware: 16.54, RSLINX2.51,all 2 systems inside Control room are doing well job, one system at field UCP can not sync, when I initial sync from primary 1757-SRM, I saw it is syncing untill 30%, sometime can up to 90%, then reset to 0% again. all the modules at secondary chassis are compatible to primary chassis, and all firmware are flashed to 16.54 bundle.i tried almost one day, only for this pretty issue, still can not solve,anyone get idea? it maybe IO module comformal coated problem? ### Assistant: Kelvin, something strange with the firmware and software revisions in your post... 1757-SRM is supported until Redundancy Revision 16.53; after that, revision 16.54 has to be used with new 1756-RM module... Also RSLinx version, in both cases, should be 2.52, as per redundancy revision notes. Here a KB note on that revisions.... Aid 40545 Check also the Release Notes of the two bundles: 16.53 Release Notes16.54 Release Notes May you please check in your hardware? Not sure the problem comes from the above but... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Drives forum is now OPEN TO THE PUBLIC! Rockwell Automation is very happy to announce that access to the Drives and Motion forums are now open to the public. Now, you no longer need to have a support contract to converse with your peers on Drives and Motion related issues! A step long requested by you, our customers, we sincerely hope this will provide a valuable way for customers to help each other. Please feel free to post to this thread with any feedback you have on this change. Joshua HutchinsonRockwell Automation Forums ### Assistant: nan n


### Human: Problem with this process W3wp.exe The proces W3wp.exe is terminating unexpectevely i have windows 2k3 and factoryview SE. ### Assistant: Here a link to Microsoft KB... there are some notes on that... Microsoft KB notes Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 1336F option cards installation Is it possible to install a 1336-GM6 Devicenet Internal Comm and also a 1336-LA3 Analog Interface Card in a 1336F drive frame B (together) ? It seems possible, but just to be sure... :smileyhappy: Thanks. - fuzzy logic ### Assistant: Yes you can. There is provisions for both of those adapter cards at the same time. The LA3 would be TB3, and the internal communications card would be Adapter 6. Many thanks for your clarification :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic Please remember to Rate the Comments( ) to enhance the reputation of the User who provided help,or close your Topic using the ( ) button over the answer that solved it. Thanks... n


### Human: Toolkit Activations We are a systems integrator with a RS Toolkit License, currently EVRSI license, but I hear moving to FT Activation for next year. I need to be able to run a few older versions of some of the RS to support some customers. I'm planning to use VMWare to accomplish this, but I'm curious as to how I will have to set up the activations so I have access to them from whichever platform I happen to be operating from. ### Assistant: I think the best way to use the same activation on the two operating systems (the host and vmware) is to use USB dongle as Host ID for your FactoryTalk Activations. As per other users experiences (also confirmed by KB note below), this is possible using last dongle drivers...http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Activations&thread.id=99 Aid 39822 Here some technotes on USB dongle : Aid 32585Aid 54553 Hope this helps....:smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Motor Catalog Number TLY-A220T-Hxx2 I am trying to set up a servo axis on a Compactlogix system and the motor I am using is not listed in the drop down of the Drive/Motor tab in the motor catalog number box. Can I use a TL-A220P-Hxx2, or is there a database that I can find somewhere? Thanks ### Assistant: Craig, you need to update the Motor Database in RS5000. Here some Technotes on that: Aid 41155Aid 46223 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic Thanks, perfect. I could not find that by searching the knowledge base. I must not have typed in the correct parameters to search by. Thanks again. Craig n


### Human: Run the same application differently on multiple Panelviews? I am running an application on 4 separate panelview plus 1000 terminals. I am looking for a way to identify to the Factory Talk ME application which Panelview it is running on. I want to use this information to turn off visibility on controls for devices that are not in the same area with the terminal being used. I have seen this done in an older RsView 32 project by reading the Linx project name into an RsView tag and using an event to use that value to set a different tag for each terminal, but I have not seen a method to do this type of thing in ME. The closest method I can think of would be to use an autoexec.bat file to rename the hard drive and then try to create an active X control that will read the hard drive name and write it in to a tag. If it were windows XP I think I could make this option work, but I do not know enough about windows CE to build this system. ### Assistant: Using PVP and not PVP CE - the activeX option is not really an option. There are no functions that expose hardware information for identification and I assume that user log in is not acceptable as you really want it to an area of the plant. A work around solution could be - make yourself an retentive HMI memory tag. The first time you start the application have a display come-up that prompts for the area of the plant - enter a value 1-4 for this area. Only show the 'setup screen' when the tag value is 0 (is retentive, so should only be once). Then base your visibility on the this tag value. I have seen an application set up similar to what you are suggesting on a standard PanelView 1000. The start up screen has buttons to select the area it is in and once that has been selected you can not navigate back to that screen. It has not been a problem, but I have always been concerned that if they accidentally press the wrong button they have to power the unit down to fix it. I would like to automate this process, but if there is no way to automatically detect the terminal name, I may have to use that method. No way to do this on a terminal. The closest I could see would be to create a memory tag that has a different value for each terminal. But that makes these different projects, so sort of defeats the purpose. I've played with ME Runtime on a computer running XP and if I use Kepware, I can point to Channel1.Device1._System_DeviceID and see my IP address. But it doesn't seem to work for a terminal I have had this same battle as many of us have. Also I currently use the start up screen to select the area This terminal is running. I do add a back door to log-in as an Administrator and return to the startup screen to change the area. I have also used a String display to: if CounselNumber=1 then Counsel 1 elseif CounselNumber=2 then Counsel 2 elseif..elseif ..elseNot Selected Some how Rockwell should come up with a solution for this. Many of use would love to see the option of at a minimum to see the hardware IP address, display this information , and use it as a condition to what can be preformed from that location. Has anyone mentioned a startup screen that sets a memory tag that controls what the operator can see based on his selection? ;) You could also control this by requiring the operator to login and controlling visibility with CurrentUserName( ) or CurrentUserHasCode( ).At this time there is no way to get windows-level info (such as machine name) with View ME. n


### Human: RSLinx Classic on VMWare Has anyone run RSLinx Classic on VMWare and what is your experience with it? ### Assistant: I think that you will get many answers on this thread... :smileyvery-happy: My experience is good on that, I'm using it every day (now I have RSLinx Classic 2.53) and it works very well with Ethernet or Serial drivers. Anyway, here another thread (from another forum :smileymad: ) that contains other users experiences. http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/archive/index.php/t-34184.html Also a KB note about the fact that it is currently not supported by RA and general info about Virtual Environments.Aid 30209 Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I use it on VMWare Workstation 6 for serial and ethernet. It works fine in those cases but you cannot use the PCMK dirver. I use it almost daily as I have to support multiple software versions for Logix, RSView32, ME and SE. n


### Human: 700S-CF Relay Can someone please point me in the correct direction for using a 700S-CP relay? I am monitoring several door switch through a safety device(not Rockwell) which in turn pulls in a relay when all the doors have closed. I am using a 700S-CF relay for this but have been told I am not using it correctly. I am looking for a schematic representation on how the coil and contacts should be wired. Thanks ### Assistant: At this LINK you may find some examples, starting from page 12... Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Rounding Off Floating Point #'s Aloha, I am using RSLogix 500 v 7.00 to program and control SLC-5/05 processor. I am using false to true events to count increments of 0.01 and put into a floating point register (F30:0). I only need two significant digits. Is there a way to round my numbers to this? I've looked through the RSLogix Instruction set (publication 1747-RM001C-EN-P). If this is not possible, is there a way to get around the rounding errors I am experiencing? Thank you in advance for your help. Aloha,g ### Assistant: grantos, which is the higher number do you need to manage ? Following the logic you may use in order to obtain what you need (assuming you value in F30:0 is between 0.0 and 32767.49)It is necessary to convert from Float to Integer, rounding to two decimal digits, and then move again from Integer to Float. Hope this helps.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic Thanks so much. I was hoping there'd be a command but that's fine. Here's what I did - basically used a CPT function. Cut down image to better fit within browser window - JHutch Yes, that was the why I've asked you the higher number you need to manage... with your logic it could only be between 0.0 and 327.67, or you will get an error in the MUL operation.Also I've prepared the example using single math instructions instead of CPT, in order to use it with every OS level of SLC-500 cpu (older version can't support CPT...). - fuzzy logic Yup, totally, I understood that. I knew I was never going to get numbers that high so I knew I was going to be OK. Thanks so much for the help and guidance. Most appreciated. Aloha,g n


### Human: FT view v4 to v5 and server problem Let's get right into things. I have or did this...2003 windows serverIIS is installed - twice now (this shouldn't matter for a stand-alone application)FactoryTalk View SE 5.00.00 (CPR9) - patched per latest roll-up FactoryTalk Services Platform 2.10.00 (CPR9) - patched per latest roll-up (rockwell recommended not going to SR1 on FTSP) All Rockwell products are running on the same box. This is a fresh OS install with no other software products. The only software is FTview related and FT activation. No MS office products or anything else. Just a bare OS install with IIS. My goal is to take the stand-alone application apart and take some of the screens and import them into a distributed system....hence the server. My problem is things are NOT working correctly at the server level with my old stand-alone application. (Several reinstalls of FTView ago I was able to get a remote client to hit a test button within a distributed test application. Forget that part as it only proves IIS and our network works and security works) I have a stand-alone application that I imported from v4 to v5. Here's the problem. I have global objects with touch animations. After anywhere from 1-20 touches the animations fail to activate and become very slow/delayed. I begin to see 'error writing to tag' errors in the FT logs. If I wait about 1-5 minutes the animation finally happens and future touch animations are slow. I have a case with Rockwell but I'm waiting for a response and was hoping for insight from the forum. So far I've reinstalled FT view and all patches twice. In between I've even reapplied IIS. It's almost as if some of the patches aren't being applied. When I've checked the DLL versions they indicated they are the correct/new updated files. I'm doing all this with an admin account on the domain versus on the local server. I'm still waiting for Rockwell to advise on what to do next. I'm currently rebuiliding the server to try the whole install / test process again. RSlater,RSmike ### Assistant: My problem is exactly like RAid50357. I'm looking for the silver bullet solution. yes the server is turned on RSlater,RSmike Linkified for convenience - JHutch I'm afraid I left my silver bullets in my other gun, all I've got is lead. :smileywink: This sounds like a tough one. Just to be clear, does the same problem occur when you are just running the standalone project? If so, this rules out IIS, since that does not get used in SE Standalone. If the problem only occurs in a distributed SE application, check the log files on both the client and the server. Best way is to go to Control Panel-> Administrative Tools-> Event Viewer. Concentrate on the System, Application and FactoryTalk logs. We know that you have error writing tag messages in FT - any other errors? Do the System or Application logs contain any errors? Network errors are particularly helpful, since a distributed application is only as good as the network upon which it is built. Dude!!! I was living in the event logs for the last week...I finally gave up and took the easy way out. This was all in VM so I had the IS/IT boys just rebuild the system (and build up a client VM as well - I love VM). The sad part is it took no time to take this easy way out. I did become more educated about the many issues related to FTview. You'd think RS would release a minor revision instead of all the patches. I cannot explain why the application was not working but I got sick of fighting with it. I only know I did the same things all over again and the stand alone application now works. I even migrated my stand alone app over to a distributed application. It works locally and so does the remote client. I can only guess it was a corrupted OS or FT install. I'm thinking I might just run the everything in VM land. It so easy to just move stuff around and rebuild and archive and just make life easy. Somewhere in our data center sits a big box with a couple hundred servers running on it....awesome. RSlater,RSmike I feel your pain. Sometimes the tangle of O/S, patches and network gets so complicated that it is less work to do a clean start than solve the problem. The VMware idea is good - I couldn't do my job without it! Love the ability to revert to a known good snapshot! Wish I could run this in a production environment. n


### Human: Problem loading displays in factoryview SE I have problem loading displays in factoryview se studio it gime me an error message like thisUnable to open file: C:Documents and SettingsAdministratorLocal SettingsTemporary Internet FilesContent.IE5KDANCH6Nmydisplay[1].gfx. I have tried with imported displays and new displays and stills have the problem i also did with a local application and still have the same problem.l ### Assistant: javi, would be useful to have the exact error message or a screenshot in .jpg format that you can attach to your post. Anyway, meanwhile, try to have a look to the following technote: Aid 27194Aid 39624 - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, i already looked at that ID but still doesn't work. Strange is that the message is reguarding the issue explained in those IDs....Are you sure that IIS are installed...and that you have installed IIS before View SE? It is needed, in order to IIS to work... - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, ISS is installed and running also i followed ID's 39624 and 30714 and still have the problem. javy, last suggestion I think... :smileysad: Did you try to install and use Studio on a different PC ? Without imported Graphics ? I mean new PC, new Studio installation, new local application with only one display and one object... just to minimize the possibility, trying to isolate the error... - fuzzy logic I will try it tomorrow. Thanks and i keep in touch to let you know what happen. Make sure that you follow technote ID#39431 This technote cover all recommended settings for SE. I had a problem when someone went in and changed the temperory internet file size and It would not allow the screens to load. Before you change the settings be sure to restore the internet settings back to factory defaults. Linkified for convenience - JHutch With an error like that, check the following: 1. There may be an error in the IIS log that will give us a clue. These are located in C:WindowsSystem32LogfilesW3SVC1. You should see where the client did a GET of MYDISPLAY.GFX. Right after the filename is an HTTP status code. Maybe there is a 401, 403 or 500 error that explains what happened when the client requested that file. See tech note 20697 for a list of HTTP status codes. 2. Enable security audits on both client and server. You do this in Control Panel under Administrative Tools-> Local Policy Editor-> Local Policies-> Audit Policy. Double click on each audit policy and check the Failure audit. No reboot needed! Now when you try to open MYDISPLAY, check the Windows Event Viewer-> Security log on both client and server. 3. Delete your client's temporary Internet files - gets rid of corruption, frees space. 4. Do you get the same error if you run the client locally on the server computer? If so, it might indicate a network or security problem between the client and the server. 5. A good general setting is to set the IIS to use Windows Integrated Authentication. This is set in IIS editor by right-clicking on the Default Web Site, going to the Directory Security tab and checking the check box at the bottom of the screen. 6. I don't have any proof of this, but I like to think that adding the HMI server computer to the list of Trusted Sites in Internet Explorer is a good general practice. If you can't trust your HMI server, whom can you trust? Buena suerte! n


### Human: Motion forum is now OPEN TO THE PUBLIC! Rockwell Automation is very happy to announce that access to the Drives and Motion forums are now open to the public. Now, you no longer need to have a support contract to converse with your peers on Drives and Motion related issues! A step long requested by you, our customers, we sincerely hope this will provide a valuable way for customers to help each other. Please feel free to post to this thread with any feedback you have on this change. Joshua HutchinsonRockwell Automation Forums ### Assistant: JHutch, while my company has a valid contract and could already accessthese forums, I applaud you and Rockwell Automation for opening themup for general access. Thank you. n


### Human: AssetCentre Scheduled Panelview 550 Upload failed I am running AssetCentre CPR9 with 3 agents. All agents are loaded the same. I ran my first big scheduled backup and compare this last weekend. I had 7 schedules that ran a total of 2-PLC5, 2-CtrlLogix, 23-SLC504, 15- PV550. Each schedule has a combination of each asset and all the schedule's start times are offset from each other. The schedules are set to run over a total of 7 hours early AM on the weekend. All Assets passed and schedules all ran good with the exception of the PanelView550s. 9 out the 15 PVs failed. The error message was Upload Failed. Each PV was set to try 5 times and they all ran on all the agents with the same failure. Any ideas???Thanks ### Assistant: Craig, just some ideas to share on it... Did you try to Upload from PV using Panelbuilder, to see if it works?Which Panelbuilder version is in use on failed PV (PV16 or PB32) ?I remember on old PV version (until 2.60) there was the possibility to strip off upload information from project to reduce its memory size. Aid 13933 Not sure this is related to your issue.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Thanks for your ideas, I can upload these one by one using PB32. For PVs, when AssetCentre uploads, it uses it's internal program to upload. PB32 is not required on the agents. Also, I have had AssetCentre upload these same PV550s with out a problem. It is random on which ones fail, but about 60% of the PV550s fail on any one scheduled backup. So I don't think that the upload information has been stripped from the PVs. Also, I never did that on any of the PVs that I downloaded to, which is about 90% of our PVs. Thanks and any more ideas are welcome. :smileysad: Craig, other ideas.... Is your PV an Ethernet/IP model ? There is a firmware upgrade for the comm card that solves some upload issues... Aid 28750Aid 31466 - fuzzy logic No, They are all DH+ connected to a CtrlLogix Gateway to our Ethernet. They are also located all over the continent. Some are local, some are in Mexico, and some are in Kentucky. Even the local ones go through a CtrlLogix gateway. Also the PLCs also go through this same gateway. I did some more research on what failed and what agent it ran on. I found out that two of my agents failed all the PV550 uploads they tried. The other agent passed them all. I didn't think that I needed PB32 software on my agents, so it is only installed on one agent. So my next step is to install PB32 on all agents and see if this takes care of the problem. Can any one from Rockwell confirm that PB32 is required for agents that are going to be checking PV550s????? Thanks n


### Human: How can i stop a PVP application to get to the load application menu? I have a PVP 600 with an application of a PVP 1200 running. Then I can´t stop the application by the normal way because the application is bigger than the screen.When I restart the PVP, the application runs automatically, then I can´t load another application that is already in the memory but not running.How can I stop the application to get to the load application menu? ### Assistant: Berra, restarting your PVP, you will see a white box in the left down corner of the screen; press it if you have a touch terminal (or press F1 if you have a keybord PVP) until you'll get the Configuration screen. Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: How do I figure the racks in the I/O configuration menu using a scanner Need help on this one. We have 3 10 slot chassis. Chassis 1 has A.Processor 1747-L532 (SLC 500) 5/03 frn 11 B.Scanner 1747-SN Series B C.Input module 1746-IA16 D.Input module 1746-IA16 E.Output module 1746-OA16 F.Output module 1746-OA16 G.Output module 1746-OA16 H.Output module 1746-OA16 I. Output module 1746-OB16 J. Output module 1746-OB16 Chassis 2 A.Remote adapter module 1747-ASB B.Input module 1746-IA16 C.Input module 1746-IA16 D.Output module 1746-OA16 E.Output module 1746-OA16 F.Output module 1746-OA16 G.Output module 1746-OA16 H.Output module 1746-OA16 I. Output module 1746-OB16 J. Output module 1746-OB16 Chassis 3 (SAME AS 2) A.Remote adapter module 1747-ASB B.Input module 1746-IA16 C.Input module 1746-IA16 D.Output module 1746-OA16 E.Output module 1746-OA16 F.Output module 1746-OA16 G.Output module 1746-OA16 H.Output module 1746-OA16 I. Output module 1746-OB16 J. Output module 1746-OB16 SW 1-1 on SW 2-1 on SW 3-1 off SW 1-2 on SW 2-2 on SW 3-2 on SW 1-3 on SW 2-3 off SW 3-3 off SW 1-4 on SW 2-4 on SW 3-4 off SW 1-5 on SW 2-5 on SW 3-5 on SW 1-6 on SW 2-6 off SW 3-6 off SW 1-7 on SW 2-7 on SW 3-7 on SW 1-8 on SW 2-8 on SW 3-8 on Both adapters are setup with this switch arangment Except SW 1-6 is off on the first one. Is it right ? And how do I set up the racks ? Please Help. Thanks in advance ### Assistant: mikekinzie, I'll suggest the following: First remote rack: Sw 1-1 on / Sw 1-2 on / Sw 1-3 on / Sw 1-4 on / Sw 1-5 on / Sw 1-6 on / Sw 1-7 on / Sw 1-8 on (it means Rack 0 - starting group 0)Sw 2 is ok.Sw 3 is ok. Second remote rack: Sw 1-1 on / Sw 1-2 on / Sw 1-3 on / Sw 1-4 on / Sw 1-5 off / Sw 1-6 on / Sw 1-7 on / Sw 1-8 on (it means Rack 2 - starting group 0)Sw 2 is ok.Sw 3 is ok. First chassis uses all rack 0 images, plus 1/4 of rack 1. Second chassis uses all rack 2 images, plus 1/4 of rack 3. So that -SN module should be configured in RS500 as: RACK 0 - Starting gr. 0 - Full RackRACK 1 - Starting gr. 0 - 1/4 RackRACK 2 - Starting gr. 0 - Full RackRACK 3 - Starting gr. 0 - 1/4 Rack You may also use a more compacted addressing, that reserves some logical racks on -SN, but this is more easy to realize and anyway left some extra spaces (3/4 of a rack) in both chassis. Hope this helps.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: OnChange on a tag Hey, Want to do: Make Button visible when tag (DINT) changes. For example, OnChange of a numeric display or variable can be used in VB(.net) and C++ Builder. Can an OnChange, in any kind of way, be used in RS View SE? I searched for it, but with no luck. Maybe someone inhere can help me with this problem. I tried a Animation (Visibility) on the Button with variants of the following code: {[ControllerName]TagName.OnChange()} Thanks a lot! Kind regards, Tom ### Assistant: Tom, just a clarification... Assume that your expression works :smileytongue:Then, when your tag changes, object become visible; then, when does it return invisible ?I mean... if the tag will change again, and your object is already visible, what do you want to do ?May you better explain the desidered sequence of your application? - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, I have a Pop-Up. There is a Numeric Display (linked to a tag) and a Button on it. I wanted a OK-Button to be visible when the value of the Numeric Display changes (after a carriage return), but in the meantime I've found the sollution for my problem. As easy as it can be, I've used the following code in my Visible-Animation of my Button:({[ControllerName]TagName} >= 0) AND ({[ControllerName]TagName} <= 100) Still, thanks for your fast reply Fuzzy. Kind regards, Tom n


### Human: FT View ME, Alarm List Clear Crash Using the Alarm List I have added a clear data button. When this button ispressed the PV+ takes a hard crash. Similar result when using running manapplication test. Thanks for any ideas ### Assistant: bla, did you get an error message either on PVP or your PC ? When you say  takes a hard crash, what do you mean exactly?Do you get a blank display?How do you recover from this situation? In the meanwhile, be sure to have all patches applied for your version of View ME. This is always the best way to get less problems... :smileywink:Use the following keyword in KB: patch roll up - fuzzy logic If I am running the application on my PC using the running man and I hit the clear alarm list button the application turns the emulation screen a whiteish color and I have to kill the process manually to continue. If the clear alarm list button is pressed while running on the PanelView+ the same color shows up and I have to cycle power to the display. I spoke with AB tech support, they said (as you have) check the versions. The display is v5.00.00.55 and initially the programming software was v4. I upgraded to v5 cpr9 and created the alarm list and clear alarm list from scratch, the problem has not changed. Thanks for your input Fuzzy Logic. bla, if you want, create a backup .APA file of your View Studio application and sent it to me.I will try it on my pc... not sure to solve it :smileytongue:, just to have a deeper check.Send me a Private Message in the Forum, I will reply with my e-mail address. - fuzzy logic bla, I've tried your application and reproduced the issue. :smileysurprised: Your Alarm Multiline display (the page where you get the problem) is indicated as Current Alarm Display (Alarm Setup - Advanced Tab), so that is treated as an Alarm Banner.If you use a Clear Alarm History in an Alarm Banner, you'll get the following: (from View ME User manual) The alarm display closes automatically under these circumstances: when the operator presses a clear alarm history button and causes the newest alarm in the alarm history to be deleted.In this circumstance, when you press the Clear button, you'll obtain the above and the effect is described in this KB note: Aid 47337 Basically, as you have used a Replace display type for your alarm display, when you close it, there is nothing else to display, so you'll get a white page. SOLUTION:as per the fact that you don't need an alarm display, leave the Current Alarm field empty; in this manner, your Alarm Multiline is not treated as a banner, but it is a normal Replace Display. Hope this helps... let me know in the forum. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: changing Panelview 1000 from dh+ to ethernet I have a Panelview 1000, 2711-T10C8, FRN 4.20. I would like to change the dh+ module to ethernet. Can that be done? If so, is it an end user swapout? If parts necessary, what are the part numbers? I also thought I read somewhere the RS-232 port is for uploading / downloading only, is that true? ThanksGeorge ### Assistant: This is not possible... :smileysad: Here a KB note on that: Aid 41901 Also, from User Manual, reguarding the item you've specified: Use the RS-232 port to: • transfer PanelView applications between a computer and the DH+ terminal using a direct connection. • connect a printer - fuzzy logic Thanks for the very quick response. I was pretty sure that was the case, but doesn't hurt to ask. George n


### Human: FactoryTalk View ME on HMI Station? Hello everybody :smileyhappy: I am trying to understand some old applications that we have. One of these are running on a station with RSView ME. Is that correct? :smileyindifferent: Could I have a ME on a normal computer? Where could I find some information about it? I would be very delighted to hear from you soon. With best reagards, Yari ### Assistant: Yari, this is correct... a .mer file can be run on PVP, PVP Ce or a Windows 2000/XP computer, installing on it a ME Runtime licence; you may buy this runtime with different size of Displays you need to use at runtime. Here a link to the Product Specification: LINK Ordering Informations Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic fuzzy logic, many thanks for you valuable information and have a nice day!!! Yari :smileyhappy: Yari, thanks for your feedback ! :smileyhappy: Just, the solution is linked to your last post, not the right post containing the solution... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Fixed the accepted solution marker to the right post. JHutch n


### Human: scada over 1 km distance i am using slc 1747-L531 and wants to connect scada over a distance of 1km. What is the best solutiion without dropping connection thanks in advance to all ragni ### Assistant: ragni, basically you have two solutions:Ethernet/IP DH-485 Using Ethernet/IP you will need a 1761-NET-ENI connected over serial port of your SLC controller; then you have a normal ethernet, so you need to install I think, a fiber trunk to get the desidered distance. Using DH-485 you will need a 1747-AIC connected over channel 1 of your SLC controller; then you may have on the other side (max 1219 meters far from the AIC) a 1761-NET-AIC, to connect to your scada via RS-232 serial port. There is also a way to double the distance using two adapters, as shown in the attached image. Hope this helps...- fuzzy logic If you have dedicated lines available, you could use short-haul modems and just use RSLinx on the SCADA side. If you have fibers available, there are plenty of RS-232 to fiber converters on the market, or go Ethernet with a NET-ENI. If you go wireless, you can use Data-Linc wireless modems (Encompass partner). n


### Human: Motion planner scan order? Hi there, Anyone knows in what order the axes are dealt with by the motion planner? Is this automatically resolved, so that (when possible!) a whole sequence of MAGs (and MAPCs) is always fully evaluated every Coarse Update? Think: (Axis) -> MAG -> (Axis) -> MAG -> (Axis) Or do I need to arrange the axes by means of naming etc so that complete one-scan evaluation is achieved? Thanks a lot! ### Assistant: A clarification: Take the example (Axis 3) -> MAG -> (Axis 2) -> MAG -> (Axis 1) Assume that the motion planner evaluates Axis1 first, then Axis2 and last Axis3. That would make Axis1 operate on 2 Course Update Times old values from Axis 3. The question again: Is the motion planner smart enough to evaluate Axis 3 first and Axis 1 last, or is there another way to control the scan order? I don't usually revive old topics, but here goes. Yes, the software will take the result of the MAG between 2 and 3 and pass it to 1. However, this is not a recommended approach. The error between each successive axis will build. You should always have a master virtual axis that multiple axes gear or cam to. So: Virtual -> MAG -> Ax3Virtual -> MAG -> Ax2Virtual -> MAG -> Ax1 That's good news, that the motion planner evaluates the axes in the right order. You say the error between each successive axis will build. Is this true only if we do MAG or MAPC from the ActualPosition of a Physical Axis, or also if we follow a CommandPosition or a Virtual Axis? n


### Human: Problem activating FT AssetCentre Server For testing purposes I configured a Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition machine and a Windows XP SP2 client machine, both in VMWare.On the server I used the ToolKit 2008 (my company is System Integrator) to install FT Activation Server and FT AssetCentre Server, both are CPR7. On the client I installed FT AssetCentre Client using the FT AssetCentre Server. Now I'm ready to activate the FT AssetCentre Server, but there's a problem. On the Activation Certificate delivered with our ToolKit I can only find a Serial number, there's no Product Key and License type, both are N/A. Anyone knows how I can activate my software? Thanks in advance! ### Assistant: What you need is to call Technical Support Center for your region; giving them your Serial Number, they will reply to you the Product Keys you need. Hope this helps... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n