### Human: ME Transfer Utility and remote support We support many customers using an A-B 9300-RADES modem. Although it is slow, we have had good luck transfering programs with RS Logix 5000. The ME transfer utility, however, produces CIP errors on the same connection. (Since the transfer is all-or-nothing it can often taking hours to get a valid transfer!). We often have a versa view PC on-site for Factory Talk Transaction manager that we connect to with VNC thorugh the modem. We would like to use RSlogix 5000 light to download to the processors, but is there any plans for a light transfer utility? The Knowledge base says the ME transfer utility requires the full install of FTView Studio, but does it require a licence to run the transfer utility or is there a light licence for just transfers? Thank you in advance! ### Assistant: If you can get all the way down to the VersaView, assuming this is your HMI station you're transferring to, then you can copy the .mer file down to it instead of using the transfer utility. We have found the transfer utility to be rather finicky depending on what you're transferring to. If the display is local (physically) we just use the compactflash but since you're over a network and using ME, then all you really need in the .mer file. Maybe I'm not fully understanding your installation, but for an ME application, this seems easiest. We are transfering to a hardpanel PanelView Plus HMI on the remote network. There isn't a lite license to be used with the Transfer Utility... :smileysad: Anyway, after you've installed FactoryTalk View Studio, you will be able to use the Transfer Utility also without activation (you may also run other Utilities accessible in Start-Programs-Rockwell Software-FactoryTalk View-Tools, like Application Manager for example) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you for the information. I hope there are plans to make a stand-alone transfer tool in the future. As an OEM, it seems crazy to have to install a full development suite of software for customers and field techs that only need a file transfer utility... Well, the idea is that you would use the CompactFlash card to download in the instance where you aren't transferring the MER from the development computer. You have a slightly strange scenario where you want to transfer the file to a neutral 3rd computer and then download from there. JHutch Using the compact flash card requires intervention from someone local to the unit. We want to update the Panelview's MER remotely because we cannot rely on the technical abilities of the end users. The root cause of this is that the transfer utility gets CIP errors over a modem connection that RSlogix 5000 has no isues with. n


### Human: READ DATA FROM RSLOGIX 5000 HI FELLOWSI WANT TO READ DATA FROM PLC. THE VERSION OF RS LOGIX 5000 IS 13.I READ THE DATA AND INSERTED PERTICULAR CELL OF THE EXCELL WORK BOOK BY USING EMULATOR AND RS TEST STAND LITE SUCESSFULLY. THE CODE IS AS UNDER Dim OPCServer1 As OPCServer 'Create references to OPC Server Dim WithEvents OPCGroup1 As OPCGroup 'and Group objectsPrivate Sub CMDDIS_Click() On Error Resume Next Set OPCGroup1 = Nothing 'Remove Group OPCServer1.Disconnect 'Disconnect from server Set OPCServer1 = Nothing End Sub Private Sub CMDREAD_Click() If OPCServer1 Is Nothing Then 'When OPC server doesn't exist ... Set OPCServer1 = New OPCServer 'Create instance of OPC Server OPCServer1.Connect RSLinx OPC Server 'Connect to an OPC Server Set OPCGroup1 = OPCServer1.OPCGroups.Add(MyOPCData) 'Create an OPC group in the OPC Server OPCGroup1.OPCItems.AddItem [Test_Star_Delta]HMI_ANALOG[0], 1 'Add an Item to OPC Group & assign ClientHandle ' OPCGroup1.OPCItems.AddItem [Topic]Item, ClientHandle OPCGroup1.IsSubscribed = True 'Receive data whenever it changes End If End Sub Private Sub OPCGroup1_DataChange(ByVal TransactionID As Long, ByVal NumItems As Long, ClientHandles() As Long, ItemValues() As Variant, Qualities() As Long, TimeStamps() As Date) [A1] = ItemValues(1) 'Assign data value to spreadsheet cell ' For x = 1 To NumItems 'Another method for handling more than one item ' Select Case ClientHandles(x) 'based on the ClientHandle assigned in AddItem method ' Case 1 ' ' [A1] = ItemValues(x) '-Do this when ClientHandle = 1 ' Case 2 ' ' '-Do this when ClientHandle = 2 ' Case 3 ' ' '-Do this when ClientHandle = 3 ' End Select ' ' Next x 'End Sub I READ ONLY ONE ELEMENT FROM IT.NOW I WANT TO READ DATA FROM OUR SYSTEM THAT IS CONTROLLER IS 5561 AND RS LOGIX 5000 VERSION 13. THE NUMBER OF READ DATA IS 40 ITEMSPLEASE HELP ME HOW CAN I READ?THANKS ### Assistant: Following a link to a similar thread: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=ProgrammableControllers&message.id=992#M992 - fuzzy logic Your code has only one handler for elements... the case statement only processes when the ClientHandle = 1. I would suggest declaring an array of data type OPCDataItem, and loading the incoming data directly into this array. From there, you can process at your convenience. Below: an example in VB: 'container for incoming OPC data Items Public Type OPCDataItem ItemID As Long lValue As Variant End Type Private Sub ReadPLCFloats_DataChange(ByVal TransactionID As Long, ByVal NumItems As Long, ClientHandles() As Long, ItemValues() As Variant, Qualities() As Long, TimeStamps() As Date) Dim i As Long Dim LTemp As Long Dim strQuality As String Dim Incoming() As OPCDataItem Dim Dset As InfoSet On Error Resume Next ReDim Incoming(1 To NumItems) For i = 1 To NumItems Incoming(i).ItemID = ClientHandles(i) Incoming(i).lValue = ItemValues(i) Next i If bShuttingDown = True Then Exit Sub End If 'Update Quality field strQuality = GetQualityString(Qualities(1)) If strQuality <> Good Then 'show the quality error in the event list strQuality = OPC Transaction Suspect... Reporting data Quality As:  & strQuality Dset.CallType = Caution Dset.Msg = strQuality AddEventToList Dset End If For i = 1 To NumItems LTemp = (Incoming(i).ItemID - 1) frmOPC_IN.txtInFloat(LTemp) = Format(Incoming(i).lValue, 0.000) Next iEnd Sub Also... it would appear from your code that you are only adding one item... not 40: I use a for next loop to add then appropriate number of items to the group: 'add the float read item For n = 0 To (nReadFloatCt - 1) 'define each item lIndex = 1 arItemIDs(lIndex) = [WMS]WMS_OUT_FLOATS[ & n & ] ' Redim arrays to actual number of items being added ReDim Preserve arItemIDs(1 To n + 1) ReDim Preserve arClientHandles(1 To n + 1) arClientHandles(lIndex) = n + 1 'add the item ReadPLCFloats.OPCItems.AddItems lIndex, arItemIDs, arClientHandles, arServerHandles, arErrors ' Check for errors For i = LBound(arErrors) To UBound(arErrors) If arErrors(i) <> 0 Then BuildPLCReadFloatList = GetPLCErrorString(arErrors(i)) Exit Function End If Next i Next n n


### Human: Data Exchange between control logix processors on same network I need a way to exchange tag data between processors... for example, there is a sensor in the IO of processor A, and I need to know the state of the sensor in processor B. I do not want to use the producer/consumer model, as I can't take these processors off line. Please advise. thanx... jpp ### Assistant: A simple MSG instruction will do the trick for now until you can setup a produce/consume relationship later. You could also add the card to the I/O tree of processor B as a listen-only connection. This will automatically update processor B with all the inputs of that module with no extra work on your part. What network do you have between the processors? Ethernet, Controlnet, etc? n


### Human: SLC 505 help RSlogic 500 help Hi guys just wondering if someone can help me out? I am trying to put a offset in some of my analog devices. The inputs are 4-20ma presure transmitters measuring water levels. I need to know how i can put a offset in so it will read the proper water level? Thanks. One measurement for example is reading 270.1 feet but the actualy level is 273.5 feet. How do i make this read correctly? thanks ### Assistant: You can use an ADD function to add the offset to the current analog value, and then consume the corrected value instead of the module's posted value. This assumes that the offset is a constant. Making it read correctly from the outset is a matter of scaling the transmitter. If this is not an option, then check out the SCL function. This allows scaling and offset to be applied to the incoming data. enjoy... jpp Hydroman, Consider using the SCP instruction. This let you scale your inputs using the equation y = mb + b. n


### Human: How to configure the I/O size of a 1794-asb From Logix 5000 13.04 I am trying to use a 1794-IB32 and 1794-OB32. Going from 1756-DHRIO to 1794-ASB. I cant seem to figure what I need to do to get the word counts changed to be able to read the all the inputs from the IB32 ### Assistant: At first check to have a 1794-ASB that supports these I/O module (series E or later).Then you have to check the dip-switches settings of your -ASB, it should be configured to use the Standard-32 mode, so that you have 2 words In + 2 words out available on every Flex physical slot.Take a look to Aid 20492 and the attachments that technote contains. Then check in your software to configure the correct I/O image under your DHRIO module, RIO channel. Insert your 1794-ASB under the 1756-DHRIO module, and configure the correct Rack # and Starting Group (the same as you configure using the dip-switches over the -ASB) and be sure to select the correct image size, considering every physical slot uses 2 words (I mean if you have 4 modules you will use the entire logical rack). So, for example, if you have a Flex adapter with an -IB32 module and an -OB32 module, this adapter should be configured as 1/2 logical rack, -IB32 uses input word 0 and 1, -OB32 uses output word 2 and 3... Hope this helps.... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Re: RIO Network Protocol Hello people.... I am new in the forum... so Now I am working with an PV PLUS RIO APPLICATION.... I had this aplicattion working ina PV standard then I migrate this project to panel view standard and now I need to add some tags to view some information actually i am traying to display string information but i cant create the new tag... Does any body nows how to do that? thanks. ### Assistant: You wrote you can’t create a new tag…. Did you find troubles to open tag browser / tags database ? Did you get errors? In a generic way I can say you may take a look to this LINK , there are some useful videos with procedures and examples about tags creation and use. Navigate to FactoryTalk View Machine Edition Quick Start Videos – My First Project – Create a new Graphic Display and…. Otherwise, please add some informations about the difficulties you have…. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Re: 2711cT6M hi, i need examples ladder program for controllogix to inview 22r. may you help me? ### Assistant: There are some examples to use Inview with ControlLogix in Aid 40774 and Aid 20085; also there are useful Add-On instructions in Sample Code website. In the Search page, use “inview” as keyword in the description field. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: McAfee Security Corrupted My RSLogix 5000 Activation I installed McAfee Security onto a laptop computer with RSLogix 5000. I now get the 'Product Activation Failed' screen with the message 'The following activations were not successfully checked out: RS5K_000.exe. When I try to view my activation it does not show on the 'Current Activations' (even after refreshing). However, it was loaded in the 'Rehost Activations'. I Rehosted the activation and then activated it again. Now I do not have any activations in my system. ### Assistant: Which is the actual situation? Do you still see the activation file in rehost tab ? Did you try to search for the *.lic file inside the path shown on the Setting tab ? Or inside your “entire” PC…if you have successfully ended the rehosting process it should be in your PC…Which is the Host ID you have specified during the rehost?And last but not least… which is the Operating System you have on this PC ? Sorry for the series of questions, but some infos are needed to try to help you…. :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic The actual situation: There is no indication the activation ever occurred. There are no product activations in the 'Current Activations' tab or the 'Rehost Activations' tab. When I view the information for the download on the activation web site, I see the download occurred but somehow did not make it to my PC. No activations located in the rehost tab. There are no *.lic file in the activation path/folder. I found one license file for RSNetWork but none for RSLogix 5000. The Host ID I used was the default Ethernet card. The OS is MSW XP pro. SP3. The Logix 5000 program was working fine until I loaded McAfee (4.x) on the machine. Is the an issue with this virus protection program and RSLogix 5000? Ok, thanks for the infos.... :smileywink: Well, I think here the rehosting process has not been completed correctly, the file is not on your pc, so i think now the only way to get it is to call in the Technical Support... giving them your Serial number and Product Key, they will be able to help you to reactivate your software. This is the first step to do, then, when the activation is in the correct place in your PC, should appear at least in the rehost tab; after that it would be possible to check other things that may prevent your activation to work, for example the firewall settings if McAfee contains it... (Aid 35092). Also, I suggest to assign your Disk serial number has Host ID, sometimes power management features, network card integration, and other settings make the network card unavailable. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Move from Siemens to Rockwell Hello, We have a number of old Rockwell/A-B systems and a recently aborted moveto a Siemens system. We are looking to move onto the latest version of RSview32and either change our three Siemens systems to Rockwell. My question is do we have to 'throw away' our investment in Siemens equipmentor can we incorporate this equipment into our old, but functioning, RSview32system an upgrade to the latest RSview32 version? Any advise or help would be much appreciated. Thanks Tony ### Assistant: You may buy KEPServer Enterprise from Rockwell Automation. KEPServer Enterprise provides serial and Ethernet OPC servers that allow communication between many third-party industrial devices and RSView32, FactoryTalk View Site Edition, and FactoryTalk View Machine Edition. All drivers are supported by Rockwell Software. Ordering cat. number is 9301-OPCSRVENE. Supported drivers for Siemens as following: Siemens S5 Siemens S5 (3964R) Siemens S7 MPI Siemens S7-200 Siemens TCP/IP Ethernet Simatic 505 Simatic 505 Ethernet Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: GV3000 Drives (100HP) Fans running logic When do the lower Fans run in GV3000 100HP Drive? ### Assistant: As far as I know, all the time (any time power is applied to the drive) n


### Human: 1789 sim io module I am new to Rockwell.I have installed RSLogix 5000 professional ver 17.00, and I am using RSLogix Emulate 5000.I can select the Emulator controller but I do not see the 1789 sim io module.How do I install it? ### Assistant: I have just read that I should be using the 1756 module.I have done this but the online logic is not responding the the io changes I make in the emulator.In rslogix 5000, the module properties for the 1756 module say that there is a module identity mismatch. Take a look to the following technotes, to be sure to have it correctly configured... Aid 26484 - Aid 46617 - Aid 29489 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic In RSLogix 5000 when creating the project put the generic 1756-MODULE into the desired slot. Label it as desired. You may set the Comm Format to attempt to match the type of module you are simulating. However the module is only 32 bits and does not have analog input so anything other than DINT is not practical. You can get REAL data out of it, but not the full range and you can not select the value desired. This mode is not useful. Also the module does not report a useful status so do not select a Comm Format that includes status. Under the column titled “Assembly Instance” enter the values of ; 1 under Input, 2 under Output, and 16 in the Configuration box. Under the column titled “Size” you may leave it the way it is (that wastes some memory) or change it to the minimum values of ; 2 for Input, 1 for Output, and Configuration stays at 0. On the next screen, after you click ‘Next’ you have to change the Requested Packet Interval (RPI) value to at least 50. In the chassis you would install a 1789-SIM module to match up with the 1756-Module from above. You can read all this in Tech ID 29489 Hope this helps... n


### Human: 1794-L34 lost program Hi, I have more than 40 FlexLogix PLC. Today morning I found 20 without program. Power supply was good and also batteries. Some batteries was changed not more then one month ago. What can cause this? Firmware: 16.20Device: 1794-L34 FlexLogix 5434 Controller Thanks. ### Assistant: Did you check Aid 45709 ? There is a Service Advisory for this controllers and the firmware you're using.... :smileysad: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I hope you will read this :smileytongue: Thanks for link to KB, I have to upgrade fw in FLX asap.... M. PROBLEM WITH UPGRADE Met somebody with this type of error? I was connected with serial cable - DF1 port. Second problem, I can not return to previous fw 13.33, because of the same result Thanks. another fault... thanks. Window with text:AB_ASA.DLLFailed to communicated to the target device.An unknown communication error code was received from the target device. Hi, check to be with the processor Key in Remote Program mode, before start the upgrade.... Also, start the ControlFlash utility from Start, Programs. Do not start ControlFlash from RSLogix software. If using a dual core PC, disable the dual core functionality for ControlFlash. To do this, start the ControlFLASH program. Go to the Windows Task Manager, and go to the 'Processes' Tab. Right-click on the 'ControlFLASH.exe' in the column Image Name, and select 'Set Affinity'. De-select CPUs until only one CPU is selected, then click 'OK'. Return to the ControlFLASH program and begin the firmware flash to the controller. If this step is performed initially in ControlFLASH 6.00.03 before a failed download has occurred, then ControlFLASH 6.00.03 can be used to update the firmware on the controller. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Everything was as you wrote.... :smileysad: We use DELL Latitude D600 and D610 laptops with centrino CPUs. I didnt find 'Set Affinity' in task manager. We tried both ways of start CF Utility. I have two log files from upgrade, I will send it to RA support and wait.... Hmmm.... just a question...which version of RSLinx are you using?Being sure to use the last one would be better. Also, when you select the processor via DF1, be sure to not expand the processor.Open the DF1 driver, expand it so that you can see the processor and click over it. Do NOT expand on the processor. - fuzzy logic It could be a problem with ControlFlash. You can try to remove it and install it again. Or maybe the controller is totally stuck. If the firmware is corrupted you can't do anything at all. Fuzzy,this I know... Problem is solved. Very simple. I use 1788-CNC card to connet Flex to controlnet. Direct connection between PCMCIA Cnet card and 1788-CNC didnt work. So I connect FLX to the Cnet network (with 1756-CNB).After this I was able to see it in Linx (btw, ver 2.54 Prof) and use ControlFlash for upgrade.This steps was recommended from RA Support.But when is possibility connect only through DF1, for this I dont have answer. M. n


### Human: PF40 DNET mapping I am using 1756-DNB and have done advanced mapping to seperate out the 16 bit words. My output word 0 logic command works great, word 1 for my speed refernce does not. The values I type in are not like that of the 22-comm-E where 300 =30hz. What I'm I missing? Thanks ### Assistant: Check if you have mapped your drive like the example in the screenshot... Otherwise, post how you want to map it to get more help... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Communication between Powermonitor II 1403 NENET & Contrologix PLC Hi , Is anybody there to help me out regarding to the communication between 1403-NENET & Controllogix PLC. I want to know if we can do the messaging between them if yes what are the setting for that...... Can we use CIP for this? ThanksKamal ### Assistant: What I have been able to find I would say no they cannot communicate over Ethernet, Knowledge base document 26982 states that the NENET only supports CSP protocol and not CIP. Also on the description in the catalog it only lists PLC-5 & SLC-500 processors. Moving to the PowerMonitor 3000 would solve this if it meets the monitoring spec's that you require. Linkified for convenience - JHutch Any idea if a CLX and PMII would talk over DeviceNet? Knowledgebase document 54797 states: Can a ControlLogix Processor Communicate to a 1403 Powermonitor II? Over Ethernet? No. ControlLogix supports CIP protocol and the PMII supports only CSP protocol. Over ControlNet? No. The PMII does not support ControlNet Over DeviceNet? Yes. A 1403-NDNET DeviceNet Communications card is required. Note that the 1403-NDNET is no longer being manufactured. Over Remote I/O? Yes. A 1403-NSC Communications Card is required. Over Serial? Yes. A 1403-NSC Communications Card is required. A possible work-around would be to have an SLC or PLC5 processor communicating to the PMII, send message to the ContolLogix processor over DH+/ethernet. n


### Human: Rslinx OEM Can't set up a driver with PKTX card I am trying to set up a driver for a PKTX card in rslinx. When I set up the driver the channel and ID option in the setup shows nothing. Called tech support they say to put card in a different slot. I haven't tried this yet because the machine is running on the floor. Does anyone have any other suggestions? ### Assistant: Did you try (if applicable to your situation) to disable RSLinx Enterprise? Aid 50720 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Haven't tried this but will. Thanks, Figured out the problem here! The computer that had the PKTX card in it was using a third party software called INGEAR. The ingear software was enabled and causing the problem. I shutdown the INGEAR software driver re-booted the computer and was able to set up the driver. n


### Human: E44 on Ultra3000i Hi everyone. I am having troubles with a ultra which used to run an eventually displays the error code 44. On the manual said that for this error I must refer to Rockwell, I have change the drive and once again the failure appears. I will value the help ### Assistant: Lost Motion Fault. Take a look to the following technotes: Aid 50190 - Aid 36895 - Aid 36307 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Ultra 100 IPM Thermal Protect Fault not resetting We have several 1398-DDM-019 Ultra 1000 dirves that all simultaniously faulted with IPM Thermal Protect Fault. We cannot reset or clear these faults, even with drives disabled, have re-downloaded configuration via UltraMaster, still faults right away. Is this a blown IPM module? Should I just replace the drives? ### Assistant: It could be related to AC line noise…. Take a look to the following technotes: Aid 20974 – Aid 21657 (this is referred to Ultra3000, but is the same for Ultra100) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Windows XP Service Pack 3 Can anybody tell what kind of issues to expect when using Windows XPService Pack 3, and Rockwell Products RSLogix 5 7.30.10.2 & RSLinx 2.54 All I can find on the tech pages is it is not supported but it does not say anything about what problems can be expected. Any info would be appreciated.. ### Assistant: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! *** Seriously, I couldn't find much in the way of specific known defects. It hasn't been extensively tested, but Technical Support reports that SP3 causes things to blow up and the only fix is to revert back to SP2 (and this is on a LOT of products, not just RSLogix 5) JHutch PS Free virtual cookie to the first one to name the movie quote above! :) Ghost Busters....:smileytongue: I'm waiting for the cookie.... :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic I have experienced a problem with service pack 3, I tried to establish communication with a plc-5/15 using a 1784-pmck card, I went to device manager and the device wasn't recognized. I spoke with tech connect and they suggested I use service pack 2 and that worked fine. Here you go! Now I'm jealous :smileyindifferent: Ha Ha :smileyvery-happy: Many thanks for the cookie ! Very nice ! Jamy, if you want I may keep half cookie for you.... :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic Yeah, gimme a half cookie! :smileyvery-happy:That would be nice of you, fuzzy logic :smileyhappy: n


### Human: PF40 protection device I have an existing Sq. D bucket with breaker that I want to feed a new PF40 drive. Is there anyway to use the existing breaker, if sized correctly? Or will my best option be to feed a J class fuseholder from the existing breaker? Thanks in Advance. Rick Miell ### Assistant: The PF40 can be installed with either input fuses or an input circuit breaker. Refer to User Manual pages 1-8 and 1-9 and Appendix A for details. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic If your drive is located in another panel, then using Class CC or Class J fuses will increase your SCCR rating of the panel even if your overall feeder is a breaker. If the panel contains other components, then using these additional fuses will increase the SCCR of the leg that feeds the drive. n


### Human: Multiple RSView32 projects open on pc Does anyone know if there is a way to have more than one RSView32 project open with Works at the same time? ### Assistant: It is not possible, you may not open a project if another one is already open, and also there isn't the possibility to launch a second instance of RSView32 Works... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic That's what I have been used to but I was crossing my fingers & hoping someone somewhere had found a work around to allow multiple copies to be opened. It sucks when you need see in one program but work in another. Thanks anyway for the response. n


### Human: Powerflex 40p - AtPos bit Does anyone know, when the pf40p:I.CommFreqCnt_or_AtPos is exactly set or reset, when working in positioning mode?This is because of timing issues. We issue a new start command, but it takes time that the 'old' AtPos bit is reset. What is the best programming practice to overcome this? At this moment we use messaging to read the actual position out of the drive and compare it with the setpoint to be sure it is at position, but this costs expensive time... ### Assistant: Parameter P225 sets the number of encoder pulses tolerance for the AtPos bit. One Practice that I use is using the AtPos bit to stop the drive. Then I interrupt that stop signal with the next start signal. When the AtPos tolerance is set tight this seems to work well for me. n


### Human: Log File Copy in PanelView Plus or VersaView Can I copy Alarm log file(Event or Data Log File) from PanelView Plus or VersaView via USB port and inspect it on other computer ? ### Assistant: Yes, this is possible... all the informations you need and the utility to accomplish the copy in Aid 35513 and Aid 33924 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: rsview32 V7.20.00 toolkit activation My client uses RSView32 Version 7.20.00, which requires the old method of software keys. The latest round of licenses uses FactoryTalk activation, which is not compatible with RSView32 Version 7.20.00. As a matter of fact, our current license for 2009 can't even run 7.20.00 at all, so I have to use an old license from last year and keep my date set to 2008. Q. Will the legacy Keys fix this problem? ### Assistant: Disk Based EVRSI licensing is no longer offered as standard with the toolkit activation however to support legacy software it is possible to order an EVRSI license by using the Legacy Activation Request form. (Aid 57917) Anyway, if you call in Technical Support, they will give you all the infos to get a new disk based activation for your software. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Missing 1756-DHRIO/E module from RSLogix5000 I/O module list Using RSLogix 16, Linx v2.51. I see the module in Linx just fine, but I cannot add it in my rack configuration. I have the latest eds file. ### Assistant: It is not a matter of EDS....the profile for this module is not inside RSLogix5000. Try to use series D profile from I/O configuration and Disable Electronic Keying. Anyway, if you utilize it with both channel configured as DH+, you don't need to add it to I/O tree... - fuzzy logic Just to complete the information, there are now a couple of technotes that explain this issue and the required settings and procedures. Aid 59656 - Aid 57332 - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Data file type A and type ST I try to know what is this to kind of Data file A (A18) and ST (ST38) of SLC 500, I can´t found mucho infomation about it if you have a information and who´s the similiar data file on Micrologix 1200 for this kind of data file,I´ll be so gratefull. Thank for your time. ### Assistant: I will try to explain it.A stands for ASCII and ST for String. Basically, the Data file A contains elements that represent one character.So A18:1 will be a character, A18:2 will be a character, etc. Data file ST contains a string, so a text up to 82 characters.So in ST38:0 you can have text up to 82 characters, in ST38:1 you can have text up to 82 characters, etc. That's why Data file ST has a lenght field (LEN) defined which will tell how many characters that are used. Hope you understand the difference... ps: MicroLogix 1200 supports the ST data file, but not the ASCII. Jamy, let me partially correct your description.... :smileywink: Jamy wrote: Basically, the Data file A contains elements that represent one character.So A18:1 will be a character, A18:2 will be a character, etc. ASCII data file (A) elements will contain up to two characters, as you can see in the following screenshot.... I apologize Jamy, this is not really to teach you... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic Don't worry fuzzy, correct is correct.It has been too long since I worked with ASCII. I prefer strings :smileyvery-happy: Just to beat up on Jamy some more ;-) A ST (string) member consists of two parts: an array of 82 characters plus an integer length which tells the number of characters currently in the string (0 to 82). You can access the individual characters like ST38:1.DATA[0] for the first character ST38:1.DATA[1] for the second character etc.and the length as ST38:1.LEN (number of characters) Strings are NOT necessarily null (0x00) terminated, although most HMI packages will treat them that way. String members always take up 82+2 bytes of memory, no matter how much of the string you use. ASCII files are 16-bit words containing 2 ASCII characters per word, high-byte then low-byte, as shown in Fuzzy's example above. The high-byte-first arrangement can be a pain for some software. For ControlLogix et al (RSLx5000) you can make your own STRING data types of different (max) sizes, so you can have strings with 8 characters plus length (4-byte DINT in CLx), 132 characters plus length, whatever, to help use memory a tad more effectively. The 82 characters harkens back to the dot-matrix printer days, when you usually had 80 characters across plus CR/LF. For you spoiled youngsters who never saw one. ;-) When you use ASCII files (or SINT arrays in CLx) and want to display them in FTView, there's a parameter you need -- and I can never remember what it is! Something like -sc32 if you have a 32-character field in your array. There's no .LEN member, so you have to tell FTView how many characters you want to display. Fuzzy, I'm sure you have the correct syntax handy. Remember, the COP instruction uses the size of the target as the increment of stuff to copy. So if you copy from an A file to an ST file, a count of 1 means 1 string -- 84 bytes. You can put garbage in a string real quick! Copying from ST to A, a count of 1 means one 16-bit word (2 characters). I forget whether you need to byte swap before or after the COP.... try it once and you'll know for sure. Hope this helps! Man, I should write a book...... Nah, I'd bore y'all to tears!Dale, W8ABZ n


### Human: pid i am using rslogix 5000 ver 16.03. I want to contorl the control valve which controls the flow of water. can you please give me some idea about the problem in overshooting and undershooting of control value. here i am using auto and manual button for pid also. can you give me with example of pid with its control using auto /manaul. here i am facing one problem that once the pid in auto and then i click on manaul then in setpoint option the pv value comes over there. so for what action to be taken ......and why this thing happendd?? rahul ### Assistant: hi ...any solution and any examples .....to solve the overshoot and under shoot what action to be take..... Bless,Not totally sure of what you're asking but the PID instruction (or PIDE in function block) is basically a simple loop controller. Typically the PV value when going from AUTO to MANUAL is usually for a bumpless transfer so that your loop doesn't have a massive change. These inputs are toggle inputs in that all you need to do is pulse them to AUTO or MAN. Using the PIDE function block, you can create an AutoTune tag that that will allow you to put the controller in manual, selecte autotune, and then let it fill in the proportional, integral, and derivative values. This can get you close and once you put it back into auto, you can tweak it as necessary. In the knowledgebase, do a search for PIDE as there are several docs that show how it works....which most of it also relates to the standard PID instruction. First the part about the SP jumping to the PV value. (I think that is what you are describing...) I believe the PID and PIDE both have an option (selectable ON or OFF) for PV Tracking. When PV tracking is enabled:* When the loop is in Manual, the PV is copied to the SP* When the loop is in Auto, the SP freezes and then can be entered if you need to change it. When PV tracking is disabled:* The SP is left wherever you set it, both in auto and in manual. (In Cascade, the SP comes from the cascade setpoint input -- definition of cascade mode.) Look in the Instruction Set help or documentation for the PID or PIDE (whichever you are using) to see what parameter turns PV tracking on and off. PV tracking was popular in the old single-loop pneumatic controller days. The operator would manually adjust to CV to get the process running right, then switch to auto to keep it there (at that SP, which was the PV when it was running right). Get it? As for the overshoot, there are textbooks and research papers dedicated to this. ISA (www.isa.org) has a number of books on the topic, from pocket-sized guides to full textbooks, and letter-size books with more practical and less academic content which might be most helpful to you. A number of software tools are also available, from Rockwell Automation and from its 3rd-party partners (e.g., ControlSoft). Plus there are site services available to assist you. Have your sales dude/dudette put you in touch with a process Technical Consultant if need be.... As for a simple method: * Set the proportional gain low (say, 0.1 or 0.01), so the loop is not oscillating.* Set the integral gain to nearly, but not, zero (say, 0.001) (or set the integral TIME very high).* Bump the SP, watch the PV response.* Double the proportional gain, bump again, repeat until the response starts to become oscillatory.* Increase the proportional gain slowly, bumping the SP each time, until the response oscillates almost steadily without increasing.* Measure the time between rising peaks of the PV (cycle time).* Cut the proportional gain in half.(Here's where I forget how to calculate the integral gain based on the cycle time. D'ohh! I think you take the cycle time in seconds, invert it and use that for the integral gain...)* Anyway, start increasing the integral gain to get the response you want. If it's too high, the PV will overshoot and oscillate. If it's too low, the PV will creep too slowly to setpoint. You want to get there about as fast as the process will allow without overshoot. For the moment, don't set derivative gain to anything but 0.0. Do some reading on derivative -- you want to use it on large capacity processes like temperature -- almost never for fast stuff like liquid flow where proprotional-only would almost suffice. Good luck, happy tuning! n


### Human: Regarding Spring Clamp Type TB What's the difference between Cage Spring Clamp Type and Spring Clamp Type ? The customer's request is using Cage Spring Clamp Type TB and I will use Rockwell's Spring Clamp Type TB..... ### Assistant: Cage spring is just a type of spring TB... :smileytongue: maybe the two are the same, it depends from the catalogue number of the TB you usually use... At this LINK you may find many types of Spring Clamps... if you see,1492 series TB use the cage spring clamp type.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Generating trigger values in logix 500 for local msgs. in PV+ What I was trying to do was generate a trigger value in my code for a local message a PV+. I am new to all of this and using mostly my imagination. My thoughts were to use the bit operator which would be a 0 or 1 and sum it with a constant to generate this value. I now understand what logix was telling me. specify to word level not bit level. With a little research I realized that a multistate indicator would accomplish what I needed using 2 states. I'm still interested to know if there's a better way which I'm sure there is to generate a number value for a trigger for a PV+ function. ### Assistant: Please post a screenshot of the operation you want to realize or describe it better…:smileywink: Anyway, you can do math using a B3 word (i.e B3:1) …. obviously NOT a B3 bit (i.e B3:1/5) :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RSLogix 5000 emulation Is it possible to use a PC serial port for data input/output when using serial commands with Emulate5000 ? ### Assistant: Yes, you may configure the serial port to use when creating a controller… Aid 37086 - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RS Logix 500 Starter 7.30 reports micrologix 1100 as series A processor when it is a series B Will Logix 500 Starter reporting a series 'B' 1100 as a series 'A' processor cause any issues? I create a file for a series B, locate a series B, but Logix changes the processor type to series A. ### Assistant: Where do you find it changed ? Try to check the Staus file (online) as indicated in the following screenshot... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RSView ME Vertical String Display Is it possible to display a string vertically. I want to display a system time stamp vertically below eachdata point on a bargraph (there is not enough room horiz.) ### Assistant: Not so easy to obtain :smileysad:... only workaround I've found is to *play* with the Width of the String Display object, trying to display all the characters vertically... see the screenshot below... if you enlarge your display object, the string appears horizzontally... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Ya, I tried that, it makes the time/date look wierd. I didn't think there was a way. I'll find a way to work around it.. Thanks for verifying. n


### Human: RSView32 I was wondering if anyone knew a way to make a latch in RSView, similar to the functionality of a latch in Logix. I basically want to set a bit whenever a device bit goes high and then clear it when another device bit goes high. Sorry if this is a redundant question, but I tried posting a question about this yesterday but it appears my question got deleted. Thank you for any help. ### Assistant: nitnoid, just a note reguarding your previous question you cannot see anymore.... Here a note, previously written by moderator: There are some boards that require you to have a support contract with Rockwell to see them. If you already have a TechConnect support contract, you can put your authorization number directly into your profile and the boards will become immediately available. See this post in the Welcome section for more information. Basically, you cannot see the Board where your message has been moved in due to the fact you don't have a Support Contract number or you've not put it inside your account profile. See the following technote for more information:http://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/rockwellautomation.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=50871 - fuzzy logic Even though nitroid may not be able to see this. one solution is to use an event to set a memory tag eg. make an event file, in the action field write Set {mytag} 1, in the conditions field write if {myDeviceTag1} = 1 then 1 else 0 <- using an 'if' is more flexible than simply writing {myDeviceTag1} since you have more options for what represents a 'true' state. similarly, enter a new line in the event file with an action of Set {mytag} 0 and a condition of if {myDeviceTag2} = 1 then 1 else 0 Cheers :smileyhappy: n


### Human: DH485 to RS232PV Passthrough Is it possible to download a PV32 project from a PC connected via a 1747UIC on DH485 to Channel 1 on a 5/03 thru Channel 0 to the RS232 Panelview ? ### Assistant: Nope. The SLC 5/03 is the limitation here. It can't properly route the comms between channel 0 and channel 1. JHutch n


### Human: Appstart get focus I am using the Appstart command to start Internet Explorer. The trouble is that it starts in the background. Is there a way to have it start in the foreground. (get focus)? Thanks ### Assistant: Yes, this is possible.... :smileyhappy: Take a look to Aid 9041 and also to the other technotes indicated in it, to get help to configure this functionality.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: ML1400 ethernet comm I'm planning a project using a Micrologix 1400. Is it possible to communicate using the ethernet to other (non Allen Bradley) systems. I have a toledo scale and a Control Tecniques drive that I would like to control and/or get info from this way. They both are ethernet capable. If so, how would I set this up, I would think CIP messaging. I need some help before I order I/O. If not, I'll have to go with analog I/O. ### Assistant: At first is important to remember here that Mx1100/1400 don't support the I/O control over Ethernet/IP. So, the only way you may try to connect to your devices is through messages. If your devices support Ethernet/IP, then CIP messages give you that possibility, just be aware of the complexity of this control... :smileysurprised: I mean you have at first to know the exactly objects you have to point out (Class Instance Attribute) and you have to manage from scratch all these communications. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks fuzzy, I was going to look at a weight once every few seconds, then average that for a few minutes and make minor changes to some drive speeds. The idea is to affect the weight per foot of some extruded raw rubber so the operator doesn't have to make continuous changes during operation. I can do this analog but would like to try and do this over the Ethernet thru messaging. mg Which model of weigh scale, exactly, are you using ? The Mettler-Toledo JagXtreme has an EtherNet/IP option that might do the job. I have had very bad experiences with the Control Techniques Unidrive SP's EtherNet/IP implementation, but most were due to noise, and I don't think CT bothered to get the interface tested and certified by the ODVA, though my information is a couple of years old. The drive's implementation is the principal issue. If it can only accept I/O connections, you can't use a MicroLogix 1400 to command it. If it will accept CIP Data Table Reads (ControlLogix tags), PCCC over EtherNet/IP (SLC/PLC Addresses), or CIP native object reads and writes (like the Assembly Object or the Parameter Object) then you might be able to implement this. I'll make the note here that a PowerFlex drive will accept both PCCC over EtherNet/IP and CIP Native object reads/writes from the MicroLogix and SLC family controllers over Ethernet messaging. There is a feature Socket Interface Using CIP Generic Messaging in ML1400. You can refer to 1766-rm001_-en-p.pdf for it. You can send raw data over TCP or UDP using this feature. n


### Human: PowerFlex 70 Parameter 53 PowerFlex 70 Drive, parameter 53 resets to 3 instead of default 0. Could not find anything in the logic to tell the drive to reset to 3. Has anyone had a similar problem and figured out a solution. Tried the live chat, but nobody's home in the drive department. ### Assistant: Hmmm... did you already try to Reset the drive to default (P. 197) ? Other useful infos: PF is a Standard or EC version ?Firmware version?Is it connected to a PLC via network card ? Which ?Did you Load parameters from previously saved User Set ? - fuzzy logic No, I have not. This problem is for a customer and I have not had a chance to address it in the field yet. I will have to retrieve their settings and try that. Thank you. n


### Human: Data collection from Panelview plus 1000 I have a SLC 5/04 connected to a Panelview Plus 1000 throw a DH+ connection. I want to know if it is possible to connect a computer throw the ethernet port to the PV+ to get the same data that the SLC is sending, so I can have a full history log of the events and alarms that the SLC is monitoring. Thanks! ### Assistant: Yes it is possible to also use the ethernet port in a manner as you discuss. How to go about doing it depends on what data you want. You can for example, send your datalog to a shared folder on the network. For alarms, I think you need to setup the factorytalk alarms to send to a computer running the services platform, I forget right away how to do that part but I know it's in the manuals. Abrigo, you may also want to take a look at tech note 36265, which explains some of the requirements and limitations of remote datalogging. Depending on your application, you may wish to use a more sophisticated logging application. Options include:- RSView32- FTView SE- FactoryTalk Transaction Manager (formerly RS-SQL) However, for small, simple applications, remote logging may work just fine for you at lower cost. n


### Human: is there a vb.net library for communicating over ethernet/IP? does anyone know of a vb.net library for communicating over ethernet/IP? ### Assistant: Not exactly what you're searching for.... :smileysurprised: just I want to leave a LINK to a site with some resources and infos about Ethernet/IP... maybe your request could get an answer into ODVA web site. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Sounds like you are looking for the RSLinx SDK. Just for reference,here a thread about RSLinx SDK....please note that RSLinx Classic C SDK is no longer available as a new product, thus it isn't supported.... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: PowerFlex 400 - not operating at low drive signal input voltage? We have a PowerFlex 400 drive that is set for 25Hz at minimum and 50 Hz at maximum. The speed is to be controlled by a 0-10VDC input signal. At 10VDC the drive runs 50Hz, at 5VDC the drive runs 37.5Hz and at 2VDC the drive runs at 30Hz. Anything below 2VDC, however, results in the drive not running at all and being in standby mode rather than run mode. The run forward input to the drive is on at all times. I thought that with the min at 25Hz and the run forward input on, at 0VDC (or slightly greater than 0VDC) the drive should run 25Hz and increase in frequency as the voltage continued up to 2VDC just like it does from 2VDC to 10VDC. Is this not how the drive operates? Is there somewhere in the configuration that I should be looking? ### Assistant: Hi, please post how you've configured the following parameters: P034P035P038 T069T070T071T072 - fuzzy logic Parameters are configured as follows: P034 - 25 HzP035 - 50 HzP038 - 2 T069 - 2T070 - 0T071 - 100T072 - 2 The issue you get is a normal behavior using Analog Signal Loss...you have to change parameter T072 to something else, otherwise your drive will stop when voltage is lower than 1 volt considering it as a signal loss... see the screenshot. Another possibility is to set Analog In 1 Lo (T070) to 20 % (2 volts) as suggested in the Parameter below in the screenshot, so that you will have 2V = 25 Hz10V = 50 Hz Hope this helps… :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Powerflex 70 main control board replacement. Hello,I have a 30KW powerflex 70 drive and the main control board has failed. I want to know if this board is available as an accessory.Thank You. ### Assistant: The Powerflex 70 main control pcb's aren't standard spare part items or field replaceable items. Prior to installation the board require several flash files that allow the PCB to work. The files are boot code files, application files plus the firmware files which need to flashed by the factory to the boards. All of these files are flashed at the factory during drive assembly. The best option is to send the drive in for repair, and allow the factory to properly flash the correct files to the drive/pcb. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you Fuzzy Logic. I managed to get the control board from another pf70 30kw drive to install on it. It's able to start and stop but does not output any voltage even though the drive displays an output voltage when i monitor it. I'm able to vary the frequency, it ramps up and ramps down but no voltage. Please, is the problem the control board or some other component has failed? It does not show any fault. Programming another similar drive works fine. Your help is very much appreciated. Thank You. Unfortunately the drive does not detect an open circuit fault with the output stage, and therefore the fault may be an open circuit fault within the drives output stage. Aid 49679Aid 53321 for Troubleshooting hints Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you so much Fuzzy Logic for your help. I'm considering replacing the drive now. Thanks once again. Ok ! I think the drive replacement is what you need now...:smileysad: Thanks for your positive feedback ! Hope to be able to help you again in future :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Powerflex 400 heat sink overtemp What else would be causing this issue besides the description in the book? This is a new drive, it has only been running for less than 24hrs when we started having this issue....I have reviewed all the info in the menues and they seem to match what is on the name plate..... ### Assistant: Hmmm... please check if you have the condition indicated in Aid 58083 In case, contact your Rockwell Automation representative or Tech Support... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I was on the phone with tech support yesterday and we determined that I needed that fan spare parts kit. Today I went to BSE and the AB rep told me the drive we have is not designed to be used on a constant torque application we are using the drive to run a 100HP 480V motor to drive a tri-plex water pump. He informed me that the PF400 is a variable torqe drive, is this correct? He said we are going to continue to experience problems because of the wrong application for this drive?! It really shouldn't matter what mode you are using as long as the continuous current doesn't exceed the design of the drive (142amps for 100hp). You may also want to check the acceleration rate is not excessive, the ambient temperature is within the rating and that the drive has adequate ventilation. It is true that a variable torque drive is used for pumps and fans and continuous torque is typicly used for conveyors and other applications. AB also classifys drives in standard duty and hevy duty. These applications are determined by current requirements and overload capacities. It all boils down to current requirements. -Paul The aceleration time is 20 seconds (default), but what would you consider too short? We have the fan kit enroute, but we will see what happens.... The temp isnt a problem right now, air circulation shouldnt be a problem either yet... The FLA on the drive is 124, and the amp rating on the motor name plate is 114.5. This doent seem to be enough to compensate for the derating for the altitude we are at (6000'), what do you think? We will have to install the fan kit first before we can run the pump to check the actual current draw. and take a closer look at the operating temperatures. Too short could be a time that runs the drive at 110% FLA for more than 1min. The drive/ motor may overheat if it is constantly speeding up and slowing down as with a PID operation. only if it is running above the current rating. according to the specification book the drive should be derated 8.1% at 6000ft. @124 nameplate fla = derate to 114fla @ 40C. I think that this is cutting it very close. -Paul We are now getting this same fault 008 every time we try to run one of our 75HP PF400 drives. Identical drive right next to it with similar operating conditions runs fine at normal temp. Replaced cooling fans as part of the aforementioned recall 2 months ago. After talk with technical support, they said to replace drive. I feel there is something wrong with circuitry that senses the temperature in the drive. AB says temperature sensor, circuit board are not field replaceable. I have had the same problem with the overtemperature fault but the drive was not overtemp and it is bad that is not a field replaceable part, it cant be much to replace, in my case it was a 600hp drive and it was time comsumer to change it out, but i have ran into the same issue a couple of times in the past the thermistor ot what ever they use to check temp failed and had to replace drive n


### Human: FactoryTalk View ME - Indirect Addressing??? I think I know the answer, but is there any way to indirectly reference tags/addresses either from local memory or from a controller? Thanks. Len ### Assistant: Hmmm… I know you already know the answer… :smileysurprised:Indirect Addressing is not supported in ViewME:smileysad: - fuzzy logic There probably is a crude way of doing what I want by making a custom ActiveX app...but I'm not going there!! Thanks for confirming my hunch. Lendyck,Althought this comment is not full up indirect addressing, I have used parameter files to build a path and lessen the workrequired compared to a 1 to 1 addressing scheme in the HMI. Don't know if this will work for your application or not.If you think it may be of benefit I will gladly send you a working file. n


### Human: Powerflex 700 speed control, speed units RPM I have a couple of issues using ControlLogix to control the speed of a PF700 with parameter 79 (Speed Units) set to RPM. The desired speed is set from the PLC logic by assigning a value to the controller tag MyDrive: O.CommandedFreq. One might expect this value to be in RPM, but it isn't. By trial and error I find I need to multiply the desired speed in RPM by 13.654 before storing it in CommandedFreq. This gives a 'Commanded Speed' (parameter 2) in the drive which corresponds with the desired speed in RPM. Where does this scaling factor come from? I'm not getting a linear response from the motor in terms of the actual speed achieved. If I set CommandedFreq to 5000 then I get a Commanded Speed (P2) of 366.2RPM and a Speed Feedback (P25) of 366.2RPM - perfect. But a CommandedFreq of 10000 yields a Commanded Speed of 732.4 (perfect) but a Speed Feedback of 754.8. P23 Speed Reference always matches the Commanded Speed, but the motor is actually turning at the speed indicated by Speed Feedback. So the faster I ask it to go the more it overspeeds. Are there some drive parameters which need tweaking to address this? If anyone can point me at some relevant doc for this stuff that would be a great help. None of the manuals make any reference to the .CommandedFreq units being anything other than Hz (or implicitly RPM if Speed Units is RPM). Mike ### Assistant: Helpful chap at Rockwell TechConnect may have solved this for me - doing some calcs & checks, will post solution if it works. Mike Apologies for the delay (if anyone is interested...). Command frequency should be calculated thus: (32767/MaxFreq) x Req. Hz. MaxFreq is drive parameter 55. Req. Hz is calculated thus: (Motor NP Hz/Motor NP RPM) x Req. RPM Motor NP Hz is drive parameter 43Motor NP RPM is drive parameter 44Req. RPM is the speed you want it to go at. What seems utterly daft is that I can't tell it what speed I want it to go at in RPM. If closed loop speed control is on then how does the drive determine what speed it is trying to maintain? Presumably it's not trying to maintain a Hz value. I can only guess that it reverses the above calculations in order to determine the RPM that was required and compares that to the actual speed derived from the encoder. In that case your PLC program has to do the above calcs only for the drive to reverse them to find out what you really meant. Crazy? Mike n


### Human: FSC instruction with strings OK, I have searched the forums, tried the online chat, called my local rep, no one has an answer to this one yet...I am setting up security in my PLC. I want the user to enter his user name and password on the HMI and I will loop through an array of strings to find the previously entered user name. When I find that, I want to record the array element number and check to see if the password matches in the array of strings that holds passwords. If so, I want to set a bit that I can use in the rest of the program to indicate that the user is logged in.Sounds pretty straight forward right? Well, here is what happens...I monitor the entered user name to see when it changes, when it does, I use an FSC instruction to compare it to the array of stored user names I have. The array is 100 elements long, I probably won't need quite that many, especially at first, but as time goes on, I will need quite a few. Anyway, if the .fd bit is never set, I send a message back to the HMI indicating that the user name was not found. If the .fd bit does get set, I store the .pos value and use the stored value to compare (using an EQU statement) the entered password to the password array with the same element. If it does not match, I send the HMI a different message indicating that the password did not match. If it does, I latch a bit indicating that the user is logged on.Now, here is where the problem comes in. For testing purposes, I only have values in two elements of the two arrays. I enter a user name that matches one of the values, and the corresponding password and it works. I enter the second user name (to switch users) and matching password, and I get the .fd bit set, but the .pos is wrong. I know it's wrong because I get the HMI message that the password is wrong. I re-enter it, and I get a successful find with .fd bit, .pos being correct, the whole 9 yards...I am absolutely befuddled!!!I can post the ASCII text for the three rungs if anyone wants to try to duplicate it... ### Assistant: OK, please post the instructions ASCII text...just to start with the same logic... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic XIO OpChange NEQ HMI_OperatorUserID OperatorStoredID BST OTL OpChange NXB COP HMI_OperatorUserID OperatorStoredID 1 BND XIC OpChange BST FSC OPCheck ? ? ALL HMI_OperatorUserID = Operators[OPCheck.POS] NXB XIO FinishOPCheck XIO OPCheck.FD BST MOV 1 HMI_InformationCode NXB DELETE HMI_OperatorUserID HMI_OperatorUserID.LEN 1 HMI_OperatorUserID NXB DELETE OperatorStoredID OperatorStoredID.LEN 1 OperatorStoredID NXB DELETE HMI_LoginPassword HMI_LoginPassword.LEN 1 HMI_LoginPassword BND NXB XIO FinishOPCheck XIC OPCheck.FD BST MOV OPCheck.POS SearchKey NXB EQU HMI_LoginPassword OpPasswords[SearchKey] BST OTL OPLoggedIn NXB COP HMI_OperatorUserID CurrentOperator 1 BND NXB NEQ HMI_LoginPassword OpPasswords[SearchKey] MOV 2 HMI_InformationCode NXB OTU OPCheck.FD NXB DELETE HMI_OperatorUserID HMI_OperatorUserID.LEN 1 HMI_OperatorUserID NXB DELETE OperatorStoredID OperatorStoredID.LEN 1 OperatorStoredID NXB DELETE HMI_LoginPassword HMI_LoginPassword.LEN 1 HMI_LoginPassword BND NXB XIC OPCheck.IN OTL FinishOPCheck NXB XIC FinishOPCheck OTU OPCheck.IN BND XIC OpChange XIC OPCheck.DN BST OTU OpChange NXB OTU FinishOPCheck BND Variables are:OpChange Bool HMI_OperatorUserID String Operator_StoredID String OpCheck Control Operators String[100] FinishOpCheck Bool HMI_InformationCode Dint HMI_LoginPassword String SearchKey Dint OpPasswords[100] String CurrentOperator String After two days in the chat sessions with tech support, the issue has been resolved, the solution was to use a RES instruction with the control word of the FSC as the address BEFORE the FSC instruction. That apparently resets something inside of the FSC instruction that I was not resetting manually.Kudos goes to Bruce Kyer for his assistance with this!! n


### Human: Standard Panelview error 208 I have a standard PV on a DH+ network through a ethernet to DH+ converter with a compact logix chassis. I am getting an error 208 on the PV, intermittentlly. As far as I can see all the tags used in the PV are PLC5 mapped in the program. What might be causing this error ### Assistant: Error 208 - Unable to write to controller There are different causes, try to check the Knowledgebase, using 208 as research key. - fuzzy logic Thanks, tried to delete the usused tags. We will see how it goes. n


### Human: How to use the winder control of PowerFlex DC? I find the PowerFlex DC with winder control. Who knows how to use? how to get the function diagram? ### Assistant: hiuse knowledebase for this...cheers I'm sorry for the not so helpful reply from vikas ... Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the PowerFlex drives to tell you which technote would help. (I know just about enough to spell PowerFlex and not much more.) If no one else pops in soon with a link or suggestion, I recommend submitting a question through the Ask a Question link in the Knowledge Base. That will route the question to the drives folks and they should me able to point you in the right direction. JHutch We all ready run an aplication for a winder unwider aplication with powerflex dc of 400 hp.drives, if more info need please contact aiindustrial@aiindustrial.com Thanks, Could you share your detailed information to us? n


### Human: Getting Useable Alarm Info out of PV+ 1000 We have many 2711P-RN6 HMIs that I would like to be able to transfer the contents of the Alarm Log to either a Compact Flash card or a Shares Ethernet Hard Drive. Is there a way to do this. Also would it be possibe to configure the USB port to write to a Thumbnail drive for same Purpose. ### Assistant: Yes, this is possible... all the informations you need and the utility to accomplish the copy in Aid 35513 and Aid 33924 Be aware these are Tech Connect users reserved docs... if you can't reach them, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your E-Mail and I will send you back some infos.... :smileyhappy: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I could only view solution 33924. Not sure how to send a private MSG sorry!!! Make sure you're logged into the Knowledge Base on the standard search page. The advanced search page (temporary bug) uses a different URL and links don't work. Alternatively, if you just search for the technote #, it'll come up in either interface. JHutch To send a PM, open the inbox using the envelope icon on right upper part of the Forum.... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RIO addressing problem I am now having a RIO rack with two 1746-OB16 in the first two slot and a 1746-NI8 in the third slot. Besides, the adapter is set to 1/2 slot addressing mode. I wonder which address I should use for the BTR and BTW in the RSLogix500 to configurate the 1746-NI8 module and read data from it. ### Assistant: It depends by the Rack # and the Starting Group you have in your settings.... :smileysurprised: Anyway, with 1/2 slot addressing mode, you have 2 Input and 2 Output words every physical slot, so that means (starting from Group 0) your -NI8 is Rack #, Group 4, Slot 0. (BT uses the lowest Group # of the physical slot) Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Starting RSLogix 5, 5000 and 5000 takes 2-3 minutes since installing the new activation software Our company has a toolkit which is shared between 3 offices (10 licenses total) I have borrowed all activations to use with my laptop while working in the field. When I am connected directly to our office network where our activations reside, my RSLogix software takes 20 - 30 seconds to open. When I go out to a job site, my software takes 2 - 3 minutes to open. I called tech support and they had me check the configuration of my network adapter. I changed the default setting, and this seemed to help. The problem has returned and I am now experiencing 2 - 3 minutes delays again. Any Ideas? ### Assistant: I had a similar issue and found a tech note, that told me to change the location that FT activation looks into. I changed the folders to what is shown below and my startup time went from 1-2 minutes down to 10 seconds. C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersDocumentsRockwell AutomationActivations Try to take a look at what is explained in Aid 36198 (maybe the technote Craig has referenced :smileywink: ). - fuzzy logic One thing I did to speed up the start-up times was to create an icon for Rslogix5000 for each version I have installed. I have versions 13-17 and the shortcut actually points to the .exe file that starts that specific version. The standard RSlogix5000Loader.exe has to determine the last version used and opens that version. If you used version 16 last, then it will open version 16....this can take a while. I just point to where the actual .exe is located; i.e. C:Program FilesRockwell SoftwareRSLogix 5000ENUv16BinRS5000.Exe for version 16 AND I disable the Start Page from the Tools>Options menu. Seemed to help for me...worth a try.... :facepalm: I had the FT Activation Client installed, not the Server, which I need to run FTView Studio. Whammo... much faster software starts. Ken, look at the number of posts for two forums. Programmable Controllers has 1900 posts as of this message. The activations forum as 500. People have enough trouble with activation that it gets 1/4 of the traffic of programmable controllers. ONE QUARTER! This is an astounding number. The security features for Rockwell software are so cumbersome, so clumsy, so pain in the neck, users are spending 1/4 of their time just trying to prove they have the right to use it. Even Microsoft activations aren't as much of a bother as it would seem Rockwell activations are. Hey Rockwell users! Why are you not more bothered that so much effort is being spent with ACTIVATION, instead developing your project? You're absolutely right...we spent three days trying to get our activation server to be able to borrow licenses since half our work involves sitting at a fold out table deep inside a plant with no internet access. BUT, we ended up loading the FTA server locally and activating using node-locked licensing because we couldn't borrow an activation. If we have to switch computers, we'll just rehost. We use Autocad with the FlexLM server without ANY problems, hiccups, etc. The programming software has its moments but otherwise works great....the activation portion, though, I believe was extremely premature, especially for Toolkit owners. I think they missed how their end users actually use their product. n


### Human: rslinx classic....failed to connect to OPC server Hi ;I am trying to import live data to excel using OPC, I can create the OPC topic fine in RSlinx classic 2.5 but when I click on copy link a failed to connect to OPC server using rslinx OPC server. Factory talk data test client works fine however rslinx opc test client fails to connect to server.any help or insight is much appreciated.thanks ### Assistant: Just a check easy to do : what is the text in the upper left part of RSLinx Classic windows ? Just to be sure you have succesfully activated your RSLinx Classic, at least to OEM version to be able to use it as an OPC server... also be aware RSLinx is not tested on Win XP Sp3 OS.... - fuzzy logic Hi Fuzzy;the heading is RSLinx classic for factory talk view. how would I go about activating the software to OEM. I inhereted this PC from a former employee all I have is product serieal numbers, product keys are missing. when I go to the factory talk activations all that is listed is RSLogix 500 and RSEmulate. thanks for the prompt reply.Danny This is the why you can't use your OPC server... :smileysad: Try to call in Tech Support to verify if your Serial Number has a valid license associated... they will guide you to activate your RSLinx... - fuzzy logic thanks alot, i will doDanny Ok Danny... :smileyhappy: Just a thing... solution mark usually should be over the post that either gives a solution or clarifies and answers the question... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 1794-OB16P vs 1794-OB16 I just got an I/O 1794-OB16 not working. I have available one 1794-OB16P but my technicians are telling me it is not working. I know the letter P stands for Protected. Do I need to set any special parameter or something?Please advise... anyone... ### Assistant: There aren't particular differances between the two (they have the same I/O image, same *pinout* ), but the problem could be in the Electronic Keying mismatch... it depends which is the network/scanner you're using... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Scaling raw value I'm using a SCP in micrologix 1500 with the analog input coming from a multiplexer with 6 RTD inputs that I'm pulsing multiplexer at 5 second intervals but the scaled value jumps around 1-3 degrees as the raw value in SCP is jumping around.(it is not a earthing issue as have tested and also have an isolated 4-20mamp input) is there a nice way to take samples of raw value and average out before it is used in SCP or some other bit of code to dampen the raw value out?? ### Assistant: Perhaps a simple first-order (lag) filter would do the trick. You can do this with several math instructions or a couple CPTs. I'm more of a ControlLogix user than Micrologix, so I'm using float math with variable names and structured text syntax to show the algorithm. I'll let you convert to Micrologix code...... Alpha := 1.0/(1.0+ScanTime/FilterTC) ; FilteredValue := (Alpha * FilteredValue)+((1.0-Alpha)*UnfilteredValue ; If your scan time isn't too variable, you can just hard-code Alpha and only use the second compute. Note that the filtered output from the previous scan is used in computing the new filtered value. If you use the above in ControlLogix, you need to make sure you don't get infinity (1.$) or not-a-number (1.#NAN) into the filtered value or you'll never get it out! There are no divides in the second line, so if you use a fixed Alpha, you won't get any divide-by-zero errors or any of that... Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ n


### Human: Where is CompactLogix Selection Guide? I was in the process of specifying a Compact Logix system and wanted to see if there was a newer version of the selection guide, Pub. 1769-SG001H-EN-P. I searched for 1769-SG and nothing showed up in the literature library. My guess is that Rockwell has merged this guide and the I/O guide into another one but I have no way of knowing. Anyone know where this info is located now? ### Assistant: I've recently downloaded a new one, pub # 1769-sg001i-en-p dated March 2009... so I suppose there isn't a newer released neither it is merged inside other pubs...just I think something broken with the link in the Literature website... :smileysurprised: I suggest to wait a couple of days, maybe they will repair the link.... :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic Well since my original post I did a little more investigating and I found a link to 1769-SG001H-EN-P dated July 2008. However I did not find it in the literature library. I discovered it in the CompactLogix overview section at ab.com under the Additional Resources tab. It's kinda hard to believe that links to both the CompactLogix selection guide and the Compact I/O selection would be broken. Maybe they are in the process of updating them. Yeah, maybe you're right... :smileytongue: this merged solution has been just realized for ControlLogix Selection Guide in the last release,,,Strange is that they have just release a new Selection Guide (-sg001i) I have on my PC just for the Controllers with short infos about I/O as previous released guides... Anyway, we have to wait.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic The Selection Guide is now available for download… no new issue, just the same I’ve already on my PC since one month… - fuzzy logic Thanks for your help with this. n


### Human: FactoryTalk View 5.0 Network: the time of changing one display to another display is too long my appliction is Network:one server has two clients.one client now has a probelm: when click one button to run command 'display', it takes more than 30s. ### Assistant: I have a vague recollection of a similar problem with at least two different resolutions. In one we applied the latest patch rollup. In the other, we corrected a DNS problem. I could not tell you what the problem was in the DNS server, but we worked around it by using HOSTS files. As you probably know, these map host names to static IP addresses. So you could map the names/IP address of all the computers in your application in a HOSTS file (exactly that name, no file extension) and place it in the C:WindowsSystem32DriversEtc directory. To avoid a reboot, you can issue the command IPCONFIG/FlushDNS from a DOS command prompt, which will clear any previous name resolutions and since HOSTS file is checked before any DNS servers, the problem is solved (assuming you configured the HOSTS file correctly). This is easy to try, easier than the patch rollup, so I'd say try that first. Hope it helps! JonathanKent is correct in using the HOST files. In a static network, ALWAYS use HOST files. Some other related issues can be IE cache. In the process of installing patches, setting up HOST files on the Client and Server, try deleting your temporary internet files and setting the temp internet file to check for new pages everytime I visit the webpage. Good Luck Thank you! The problem is solved(just reboot the server host). ...........great job.........the rsreboot saves the day. n


### Human: SMC-2 cat. no.: 150-A97NB with PCB cat. no.: 150-N wiring help I have been looking very extensively both here and on the WWWregards the PCB interface unit, cat. no.: 150-N which I haveon each of my four SMC-2 units.I have tried looking everywhere :)The electronic board has no source for input voltage etc, with theexception of a ten pin connection labelled TP1 near the DIPswitches. I suspect this 10 pin set to be a serial interface to a PCfor I/O communication purposes. It may also be a source of voltageto actuate the gate on each of the three modules.There is the typical trigger connections for the TT162N powerblocksattached to the heatsink (four wires for each module), but there isno voltage source for them to work...well none that I can see.See the attached photo to help you.I have seen the documents: 150-at002_-en-p.pdf150-in001_-mu-p.pdf150-in004_-mu-p.pdf150-in006_-mu-p.pdf150-qs002_-en-p.pdf150-um003_-en-p.pdf ...none provide any wiring diagrams for the SMC-2 with an attached150-N interface unit.What I really would love to see is a schematic for the legacy board150-N, pinout wiring diagram for the ten pins located near the DIP switch and how to provide power to the three powerblock gateswhile still using the 150-N PCB interface.Any help related to the 150-N interface board would be of greatassistance.My interest in these units can be explainedby visiting Homegrown Power...and that is me, CraziestOzzy :P Cheers ### Assistant: These units are Soft starters for motorsThe blocks are back to back scr's that fire off on the back end of the 50 hz sine wave. ( use your crow - aussie name for Osciloscope - to check this)The 150N1 unit only allowed for remote start/ and ramp stop with an up to speed aux.The units are rated for scr's full on ( not variable speed ) and the voltage ramp starts once 3 phase power is appliedPlease use them for what they were designed for and leave the smart stuff for the one's with all the money !!! n


### Human: 1756-IF8 channel problem I have a problem with with analog input 1756-IF8 , the raw data for 2nd channel is alway 0 even when swapping between 1st and 2nd channels, they are wired using (single endeded current), I have checked the jumper iRTN, Please note that it was working before ### Assistant: If the hardware seems ok, and you can read some values if you connect the device on channel 1, then only thing I can suggest is to double check how the 2nd channel is configured in RS5000...Try to configure it in the same mode as the 1st, and then either take out and reinsert the card from chassis, or put the processor in Prog and then in Run again (needed in order to reapply the configuration to the module) Let us know.... - fuzzy logic Mar, I assume you've measured the current thru the input and it's in the range of 4 to 20 mADC. This current is applied across a 250-ohm resistor in the card and the card measures the voltage across the resistor as 1 to 5 VDC. You can measure this voltage directly, between the current input pin and signal common. If it's way more than 5 volts, the resistor is probably fried open. But you'll likely see a large data value in this case, not zero. If you see way more than 5 volts and zero data, you've probably fried the resistor and the channel.... bummer. If it's near zero, something is shorted or not getting to the card. This is the case where you'd see zero in the data. I'd pull the signal wires and apply a signal simulator, or even a AA-cell ( ! ), across the input. The AA cell, at 1.5VDC, would run a signal of 6 mA thru 250 ohms, or about 12.5% of scale. If it's 1 to 5 volts (in exact proportion to the 4 to 20mA), the resistor is good and it's something else. Check config, try some default values like 4 mA = 0 EU, 20 mA = 100 EU. Inhibit the connection and uninhibit or pull the card and re-insert to re-send the Configuration data to it. Have you tried a spare card? It takes some effort to fry an IF8 channel, but I've done it! Dale, W8ABZ n


### Human: PLC addressing Dear All, I have a AB PLC2/20 with a PLC2 software loaded on normal PC plus the application program printout thar systm lauout is as follow: - Main PLC Rack ------------> PS+CPURack No.1 ------------> ASB1771 + 2 DO MODULE AC (1771-OM) + 11 DO MODULE DC (1771-OB) + 1 DI MODULE DC (1771-IM) Rack No.2 ------------> ASB1771 + 16 DI MODULE DC (1771-IM) Please I need to know:- 1- The addressing of each module in rack 1 & 2 , noted that I know that that 1ST. left no if one -->input if 0 --->output, 2 left no for rack, 3 left no for group and 3&4 left no for terminal but my program printout contian 11xxx, 12xxx, 13xxx, 04xxx,05xxx, 06xxx and 07xxxany one can be explain Thank for All ### Assistant: Hi, I suggest to take a look to the Programming Manual ; it contains the informations you need. Anyway, your considerations about the addressing are correct, see the attached screenshot. The Module Group related to an I/O module depends by the addressing mode you are using. The *strange* addresses you can see in your program, are probably related to Timer/Counter data :smileysurprised: Hope this helps…- fuzzy logic n


### Human: INVIEW suddenly dropping message file We have an Inview 2706-P22R installed on a customers machine connected to a 1761-NET-ENI module - Ethernet messaging from a ControlLogix 5562 controller (Logix version 13.04 - this is an older machine) The Inview will run properly for weeks, then suddenly lose its message file - when the message file is reloaded the same cycle is repeated - fine for a while - then no message file. I believe the customer has replaced the Inview and it happens with a new unit. Is there possibly any message we can be sending the Inview commanding it to erase it's message file? The timing from loading a new file until it gets erased is random. We have the same setup on other machines with no problem at all. This machine has 3 different modules with individual messaging to 3 different Inviews from the same PLC, no problems with the other 2. ### Assistant: steve.barber wrote: Is there possibly any message we can be sending the Inview commanding it to erase it's message file?Yes, remove all messages from a display is possible using a command line.... see the User Manual pages 4-7 / 4-8 / 4-9 Not sure this is what happens there.... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RSView 32 v 7.50-Alarm History List doesn't update anymore I have RSView 32 app that I was running on v7.4. I upgraded to v7.5 and now the alarm history list does not update anymore? Is there something that needs to be checked in the setup for the viewer that I am missing so that it will update. The only way the view updates currently is if I stop the application and restart it. Anyone have any ideas? ### Assistant: Just a question to clarify and avoid misunderstantings: Are you talking about the Alarm Log Viewer or the alarm Summary ? :smileysurprised: Thanks.... - fuzzy logic It is the alarm log viewer. The alarm summary is running fine. Ended up having to remove some backup files and it started working again. n


### Human: date time I WANT TO USE PLC'S DATE TIME INTO MY APPLICATION SO HOW TO USE THAT ONE... THX ### Assistant: You have to use GSV to get the values and SSV to set the values... attached is an example... I have created a new array named myCLOCK with 7 DINTs and starting from element 0 I get all the Date and Time infos in this array.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Bless, You can do a GSV to get the LocalDateTime attribute (v16 or v17) or the DateTime attribute (v15 and earlier) for the WallClockTime Object. Fuzzy gave you the layout for the data, a 7 element DINT array. I like to create a User Defined Structure for this. Be sure to use LocalDateTime for v16 or v17 apps because DateTime function was changed in v16. Additional information may be found in CH 4 of the Logix Controller Instruction Set Reference Manual. Here is a link to the manual --> http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/1756-rm003_-en-p.pdf If you're using PLC-5 - family controllers, (if I recall correctly) the date/time is in the S file in S:18 (year) thru about S:23. If you're using RSLogix 5000 version 17, look in the Vendor Sample Programs for an application containing Add-On Instruction examples. There's a whole set of date/time math and manipulation instructions there, with a routine showing examples of usage. I think one example shows how to use them to calculate how many days until you retire. If you're lucky. Dale, W8ABZ  I think one example shows how to use them to calculate how many days until you retire. If you're lucky. As I recall, there's another example that will add up all of the things in life that don't add up. I tried using it and it faulted the controller.Something about ...infinite loop resulting in cataclysmic CPU meltdown.Perform the following -1. See TechNote 666 (it's in the details) 2. Using dust pan, sweep up as much of the debris (including chassis) and send to Tech Support.3. Update your resume.4. Remove another Controller of same Catalog Number from inventory and put in waste receptacle.5. Write your mother, she would appreciate hearing from you. I'll try to find the TechNote number. Larry, Believe it or not, despite the date on it, my post was not intended (originally) as an April Fool's Day joke! Here's the rung of interest: Looks like back in July, someone had 7852 calendar days yet to work, plus 9 hours, 48 minutes, 16 seconds and 621274 microseconds. Poor guy.... Those last 600,000 microseconds will be a BEAR! Thanks, Larry, for your funny reply. Thanks, Rockwell, for the useful joke material in the sample app! p.s.: Look at T_Clock, rungs 2 and 3. They got the day of the week computation down to 3 CPTs -- with NO REALs and only two DINT intermediates! I'm definitely gonna use that! Now it's April 2..... Back to work! Dale, W8ABZ Sorry, here's the picture of the rung and data..... My bad Dale, W8ABZ n


### Human: 6186 Industrial Terminal I have 10 of these units installed at the present time. On two of them, I have to constantly calibrate the touchscreen. Any ideas? ### Assistant: Try to download latest Driver for your Monitor... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Factory Talk Security -- Setting up product policies Hi all,I have a server setup as the Factory Talk network directory, and additional clients pointed to that network directory. I want to prevent some users from uninstalling RSLogix (apparently if you enable Factory Talk security during an RSlogix installation, simply uninstalling and reinstalling without the security gets around it). I went into the network directory to setup the product policy Allow the un-installation of RSLogix for RSLogix 5, such that I denied a certain user that privilege. I then went to a client PC, logged in as that user and tried to uninstall RSLogix 5, and did so with no problems. My question is: after setting up a product policy, how is it then activated? I tried to disable un-installation on the local directory and that did not prevent uninstall either. Any suggestions? Thanks, BJ ### Assistant: Did you already try to follow Aid 33864 ? Or Quick Start chaper 3... both regarding the correct installation procedure... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Fuzzy,Thanks for the advice. I reviewed the quick start guide again and realized that I should not have installed Factory Talk administration console on the client PC (computer 2). I uninstalled and reinstalled FT services platform (without admin console) and tried again, but still, I do not get any prompt from FT that prevents me from installing or uninstalling RSLogix. BJ n


### Human: RSView V.4 Using two or more AREAs in a redundant system I am using RSView SE, Version 4 CPR7. Is it possible to use two or more AREAS, in one application in a redundant system? Under each area I am planning to have one hmi server and one data server. Application Area_1 HMI_server_1 Data_server_1 Area_2 HMI_server_2 Data_server_2 ### Assistant: Yes, this is a possible configuration.Just be aware to separate the HMI servers from the Data servers using Sub-areas. Please take a look to: Aid 29663 - Areas Structuring GuidelinesAid 32549 - Distributed System design (page 27)Aid 38160 - Server redundancy Guidelines Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 1746-OW16 Hello,I have several spare output modules 1746-OW16 some of them are series C and some are series D.Also 13 slot chassis (1746-A13) for SLC500 I have series B and C.Are the units with different series compatible?Thanks ### Assistant: Didn't find notes about issues for different series neither in KB nor in manuals. That means there aren't problems of compatibility to use your products. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Re: Powerflex 40 faliure after power cycle What's the maximum times per hour we can cycle the power at powerflex 40 drives? ### Assistant: Macedonia, take a look to the following post, it may helps....altough it is referred to PF4, it can be an useful guideline... http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Drives&message.id=561#M561 - fuzzy logic It is my understanding that the power supply fails while in operation, and continues to run until power is cycled, so # of cycles shouldn't effect the problem. Power cycles will just increase how fast you detect you have had a failure. n