### Human: Function Files in a Micrologix controller What are they and do I need them?How do I delete them? Could it be interfering with my printing? ### Assistant: Function Files are an integral part of Micrologix Controllers and through them you can access, configure and use some of the *advanced* features of these PLC, like High Speed Counters, Pulse Train Outputs, Interrupts etc.You may find them explained in the Reference Manual for your Micrologix Controller. If you want them removed from your report, just configure the Report Options to exclude these files from the printout...see the image below... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic I found out I had a corrupted file; I had to Save AS an .SLC file, then open into RSLogix500. Once I did this the program finished the report and I was able to deselect the Function Files. Before this it would print thousands of blank Function File pages. Thanks! n


### Human: Gaurd Logix Any body guide me on guard logix concept.Can we mounte on remote rack 1756 slot ### Assistant: Try to take a look to these links: Product infos Catalogue InformationReference ManualUser Manual Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Yes you can mount the GLX in a 1756 Chassis. Take a look at:-Safety Accelerator Toolkit And also the web site for it :- SAT Website click the title marked > Safety Accelerator Toolkit for GuardLogix Systems Also, one note on the Guardlogix is that while it can use regular 1756 I/O, you can't use the I/O coming in to the regular I/O in the safety task. It's regarded as unreliable and you must map safety tags to the regular 1756 I/O. Also, the only part of the processor that is redundant or fail-safe is the safety task...not the rest of the plc program. You have 2 processors with GLX. The main Safety processor and a partner they have to go next to each other on the rack. Then you have to buy I/O that mounts seperate from the main rack. The safety I/O communicates via Ethernet or Devicenet, so you have to have an ethernet card on the main rack, and its good practice to have a managed switch in the system. The price of this stuff gets up there real fast. n


### Human: ControlNet with Coaxial Cable(1786-RG6) I have to install CLX system with only one Remote I/O Chassis and the distance of two chassis is around 800m.Is it possible to using coaxial cable, 1786-RG6, without repeater ? ### Assistant: The manual say the maximum allowable total coax cable length of a ControlNet segment is 1000m for 2 nodes.RG6 is coax cableSo I think it is ok. The maximum allowable total length of a ControlNet segment is 1,000 metres (3,280 feet) with 2 nodes (taps) connected. Each additional node or tap decreases the maximum length of the segment by 16.3 metres (53 feet). The maximum number of nodes (taps) allowed on a segment is 48 with a maximum length of 250 metres (820 feet). So, the answer to your question is YES, you need to use just two taps, two terminators and 800 m of coaxial cable. Reference is Controlnet Coax Media Planning and Installation Guide. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Controlnet Adapter Module1747-ACN-15... cant be read by SLC 5/03? Can u please help me with this? thanks. ### Assistant: If you mean directly, it can't :smileysurprised: You will need a Controlnet Scanner module 1747-SCNR installed in the SLC 5/03 chassis and configured to manage the remote chassis through the -ACN15 adapter, in a valid Controlnet Network. See the manuals in the above LINK for scanner module use, and the attached User Manual for the Adapter, as it seems to not be available right now for download... :smileysurprised: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RSLogix 5000 V17.1 colors Version 17 when display colors are changed the Timer, Preset, and Accum words in the instruction do not change to the same color as the rung color.Is there a patch for this? ### Assistant: Unfortunately it seems to be changed respect to v16, and there is no workaround for that... see this thread also... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: powerflex 400 heatsink overtemp fault Hi,We are getting a heatsink overtemp fault on our powerflex 400. The fans do NOT start turning when a start command is given. I replaced the fans and still no luck. I suspect there is some kind of power supply board that runs these fans. Does anybody know what part ### Assistant: I remember a Product Issue about these fans for PF400, try to see if your drive could be affected (a transistor inside the fan could become faulty for this issue, so also the replaced fan could be affected if it was manufactured in the period indicated in following technotes) Aid 57378 - Aid 58083 Aid 47655 contains spare parts list for PF400. Hope this helps. - fuzzy logic I just replaced the fans last week, surely they sent me the good fans. Wouldn't at least a couple of the fans turn on if it was just a fan problem?? The problem did occur after a storm and power loss. Agree.... this could be related, as you suspected, to a faulty Main Board... unfortunately this is not field replaceable, you will need to replace the entire drive for that...or send it to repair... :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic OK, I guess I'll send it in and see what they figure out. Thanks for your quick response. .... This problem should be address by rockwell with hi urgency, Its not good to hear that they only advice and post it in Knowledge base, regarding this Fan issue... I commissioned 35 Drive here in singapore in one Big company.. sadly we encounter 9 faulty drive out of 35, so its about 25%, 5 of it is Fan issue.. And base on the that technote there are still onsite waiting to be down.. customer already have doubt on AB Drive durability... I also heard some bad powerflex news from some customers.I hope all would be ok soon,no matter where the products are made and who made.... n


### Human: SE 5.0 CPR9 SR1 does not update my FT View SE 5.0 CPR9 I have XP SP2 with installed FactoryTalk V Studio for FactoryTalkV Enterprise 5_0 ,RSLinx Enterprise Software, RSLinx Professional Software & RSlinx classic After I installed FTSP 2.10.01 CPR9 SR1 Patch Installs 06 Apr 09 it updates my software now I haveRSlinx classic CPR9 SR1 and RSlinx enterprise CPR9 SR1 and FTSP 2.10 CPR 9 SR1 Then I tried to install SE 5.0 CPR9 Patch Installs 06 Apr 09 but I dont have correct update so I downloaded SE 5.0 CPR9 SR1 Patch Installs 06 Apr 09 and installed but my program remains only CPR9 I have been said to install this patch so my problem with screen flickering when I move windows will be solved.Any suggestions or am I doing something wrong? Thanks !! Attached is the scerenshot of Add/Remove programs. ### Assistant: Janac, there is no SE CPR9 SR1. I am thinking that the reason you saw a reference to a CPR9 SR1 patch is that the patch rollups were recently consolidated so that one rollup handles all patches. But no patches would ever change the version of FTView SE to CPR9 SR1. FYI, I just checked tech note 60350, which is the rollup tech note. It lists the following product revisions:- FactoryTalk View SE 5.00.00 (CPR9) - FactoryTalk View ME 5.00.00 (CPR9) - FactoryTalk Services Platform 2.10.01 (CPR9 SR1) - FactoryTalk Alarms and Events 2.10.00 (CRP9) - RSLinx Enterprise 5.17.00 (CPR9 SR1) Please see tech note 60350. There are now two seperate SE(CPR9) patch roll-ups. One for intstallation on FTSP CPR9 and one for FTSP CPR9 SR1. Before this month, there was only one SE(CPR9) patch file for both FTSP. The download link to the SE patch roll up for FTSP CPR9 SR1 does not work. The link is labeled Link 1. I have made sure I was logged in, and tried FireFox and IE. Is this SE patch roll up available, or is it necessary to uninstall FTSP CPR9 SR1 and install FTSP CPR9? Thanks! Richard I've reported the two LINKS from technote 56184 here below: LINK 1LINK 2 Anyway I'm able to download the Patch also from technote... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: L63S Processor not recognized in Factor Talk View ME I'm trying to setup communications to my 1756-L63S Processor (maj. Rev 17) and it is not an option in the factory talk view. The safety partner is there (L63SP), but no L63S. I'm running FTVME Ver.5 CPR 9 with the latest patch installed, and RSLINX Classic Lite Rev. 2.54.00.11 CPR 9 SR 1. Any ideas??? ### Assistant: That processor is available for selection in latest FactoryTalk View revision 5.1... (RSLinx Enterprise 5.20) May you consider the possibility to upgrade your current software version ? - fuzzy logic I thought I had the latest version. I just got it 3 days ago from rockwell... I'll update the software when I get back to work on Tuesday. Thanks for the heads up.... n


### Human: ERROR WHEN IMPORTING .MED FILE Does anyone know what is causing this error? I click on 'new', give it a file name, click on import and browse to my .mer file. When I click to finish I get a red X error that says The parameter is incorrect FWIW, I am using Windows 2000 professional, FTView Studio ME (cpr9). The .med file is from a PV 600+. I am not sure if it is ver 4 or 5 or if it matters. Thanks, Aaron ### Assistant: If you want to import an existing .med project into another new project, then be aware of the following: Studio Requires the folders and files associated with the *old* project to import into a new project. Everything that is in the /ME/HMI Projects/<application name> folder is needed to do an import. If you want to open a runtime file .mer taken from a PVP, then you have first to be sure the firmware of PVP and thus the project taken from it must be v5...as v4 doesn't allow the conversion.The file is restored by uploading from the PanelView Plus and running Application Manager to restore to an editable application. Which of the two situation does apply to you ? :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic Fuzzy, Both apply. The .mer is version 4.xx so restoring was out of the question as you stated. Your statements about needing the application files got me wondering so I tried something different. I had all the files on a cd and was browsing to the .med file on the cd and asking FTVS to import. After reading your reply, I copied all the files to a folder on c: and browsed to the .med file. FTVS imported with no reported errors. Thanks!!! Aaron n


### Human: MicroLogix 1400 Hardfault List with Fault Code 08h Hello Everybody, Could anyone help me to find the cause of this fault? I do not understand the Memory Dump analysis. We just modified the IP Address, and then the MicroLogix 1400 triggered this fault 08h. Does it caused by noise or improper installation just like [Fuzzy Logic] said that? This error may be caused by noise (electrical disturbances) or improper installation, said by [Fuzzy Logic] at 03-30-2009 06:27 AM //////MicroLogix 1400 Hardfault List////// [1. Device Description] 1. Device Name; 1766-L32BXBA A/3.00 2. Ethernet Address(MAC); 00-00-BC-38-6D-71 3. OS Revision; Series A FRN 3.0 4. HTML File Revision; 1.7 5. CPU Mode; Faulted(51h) [2. Fault Description] +-----+------+------+------+-------+--------+--------------+---------+-------------+-----------+-----+ Index Fault Fault New Test Fault Byte Boot Boot System Code Source Error ID Address Reset Watchdog Stack CRC Flag Reason Reset Pointer Occurred +-----+------+------+------+-------+--------+--------------+---------+-------------+-----------+-----+ Last 08 60 1 137 B011C494 4808270800000000 00 00 B01A0F3C D163 08 60 1 137 B011C494 4808270800000000 00 00 B01A0F3C D163 08 60 1 137 B011C494 4808270800000000 00 00 B01A0F3C D163 00 00 0 00 00000000 0000000000000000 00 00 00000000 FFFF 00 00 0 00 00000000 0000000000000000 00 00 00000000 0000 00 00 0 00 00000000 0000000000000000 00 00 00000000 0000 00 00 0 00 00000000 0000000000000000 00 00 00000000 0000 00 00 0 00 00000000 0000000000000000 00 00 00000000 0000 00 00 0 00 00000000 0000000000000000 00 00 00000000 0000 First 00 00 0 00 00000000 0000000000000000 00 00 00000000 0000 +-----+-----+------+------+----+--------+----------------+------+--------+--------+-----+ [3. 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Just because I see in your attached text the cpu mode indicated as Faulted 51h, that is another error...See Aid 20366 to troubleshoot error 51h. Otherwise, I suggest to send out the Hardfault List to Technical Support to have a response. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks [Fuzzy Logix] for you input! Yes, The latest fault, S:6=51h, is because of the mismatch of program configure with the hardware. We have resolve the issue by now. Does anyone would explain for the Dump Memory analysis? Last 08 60 1 137 B011C494 4808270800000000 00 00 B01A0F3C D163 08 60 1 137 B011C494 4808270800000000 00 00 B01A0F3C D163 08 60 1 137 B011C494 4808270800000000 00 00 B01A0F3C D163 The other ones description . Device Description1. Device Name 1766-L32BXB A/3.00 2. Ethernet Address(MAC) 00-00-BC-38-6E-E6 3. OS Revision Series A FRN 3.0 4. HTML File Revision 1.7 5. CPU Mode Faulted(8h) 2. Fault DescriptionIndex Fault Code Fault Source New Error Flag Test ID Fault Address Byte Boot Reset Reason Boot Watchdog Reset Occurred System Stack Pointer CRC Last 08 60 1 137 B011C494 4808270800000000 00 00 B01A0F3C D163 00 00 0 00 00000000 0000000000000000 00 00 00000000 FFFF 00 00 0 00 00000000 0000000000000000 00 00 00000000 0000 3. 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### Human: SLC 5/03 used with Proface QPK-CTDE-0000: HELP Hi, new guy here. I hope you guys can help me out here. Here's my setup: Using an SLC 5/03 w/16K memory Series CAdditional modules used: 1746-NI8, 1746-NR8 (x2), 1746-OX8 (x2). Connected to Ch. 1 is a Proface Model ### Assistant: I've tested the second method, writing new values to N file and mov them to S registers, and works fine... Are you sure the ladder file with the move instructions has been *called* using JSR instructions ? :smileysurprised:If the N file has the correct values, the MOV must work... - fuzzy logic Yes, I've made sure it's in a File that a JSR jumps to. There are other rungs that are running at the same time within that file, some of it is for displaying on the touch screen which it does, so I know the file is being called. Watching it online, I can see the Nx:xx register accept the new number but when it comes to the MOV to the S:xx nothing happens. I've tried using XIC before the MOV file, trigger the XIC and nothing. I tried having no conditions before the MOV and nothing. It's a mystery to me. I know it should work. It works with our SLC 5/05's. Maybe there's something different with the SLC5/03. Hmmm... if you have the possibility, a good test could be to create a new program in RS500 with just LAD 2 and only the move like in my example; download and remove all network connections to the controller. It must work ! If it does, then you may double check in your application: other part of the program that could write to the same Status wordsother devices via comm channel that get direct control of that words (SCADA, HMI etc.) Also try to set the clock from the Status File while online; if you see something strange or if it doesn't work as expected, try to see technote 22298.After that, try again to change the clock values from the ladder... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thanks, I'll give it a try. n


### Human: MicroLogix 1400 EDS I can't find an EDS file for the Micrologix 1400. Does anybody know where I can get one? ### Assistant: If you're searching for it, maybe you have an old RSLinx version... be aware you need to install at least v2.54 to use MX1400; it contains the needed EDS files. Anyway, you may download it from this LINK (see below how I've obtained it) :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Communication problem with Compact 1769 L32E and Analog Inputs Hi All, We have a project that use a Compact Logix 1769 L32E PLC. Evetything seems ok. I can get all Analog Input values by configuring to engineering units and 4-20 ma settings. Unfortunately after we shutdown the power of plc I cannot see any AI values from modules. All values seem zero. Only way to get values again is (checking inhibit module option)pausing Analog Input modules and repausing(unchecking inhibit module option) Analog Input modules. But when we shutdown the power of Plc again same problem occurs. can someone help us about this problem. Did i miss any control options about Analog Input modules. ### Assistant: Try to take a look to Aid 23492... Be aware of the following: The recommended way to configure the card is to manually set the configuration bits within the module's configuration tags using RSLogix5000 s/w. Let me know... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: PF700 two Reference Speed What configuration should I do with PF700 if 2 reference speed is required? Speed 1 - Via PotentiometerSpeed 2 - Analog (4-20 mA) ### Assistant: Utilize the digital inputs to switch between Reference select 1 & 2 (par 361 - 366) and Reference A & B (par 90 & 93) Thanks Chi Drives, yeh.. i know about it, using the digital input to switch between two speed, however i'm not only sure about the wiring... not like PF400 its quite simple.. but for Pf700 its quite confusing... Take a look to the attached image... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Excellent! Thanks fuzzy logic.. I may try this terminal setting.... Kudos n


### Human: Comparison between Panelview+ and Component series Hello,I need two touch screens for a project, both color, and both are fairly simple applications. I need about 6 screens of graphics, including 3-4 trendviews each. I have a choice between a 10 color component series panel (2711C-T10C) and a 6.5 panelview plus. There is a significant price difference, and I would prefer the cheaper and larger screen on the component series panel. But I cannot find any literature on the trending capacity. I found in the knowledgebase a document 36267, but I cannot open it. Can someone tell me definitively, what are the trending limitations on the component series panels? thank youeeprom ### Assistant: See Aid 50663 Take also a look to Help and Extended Support to find informations about trend configuration. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Please also keep in mind the limitations of communications. If the controller in your project is a compact logix, for example, the PVc can only talk over serial. It also does limit the type of data sent to the HMI. Please refer to this thread Re: Connect panelview component to controllogix / FactoryTalk View SE/ME , from 6/08. Nelson n


### Human: Operation of CPS and UID/UIE with regard to OPC I am digging into some strange occurrances with GE's Cimplicity HMI reading/writing to ControlLogix. Once in a while, we get 'non-contiguous' data in an array that is being read via OPC on Ethernet. The array is being written in the controller using a COP instruction that is within a UID/UIE pair. The logic is all within a continuous task, with no other tasks.My understanding is that between the UID and UIE, no communications will be taking place, so an OPC read of the array should always get contiguous data, not half-copied data.Question: Is the CPS instruction the same as UID-COP-UIE, or are there differences, especially concerning OPC communication? ### Assistant: There is a very detailed comparison of CPS and UIE/UID in RA Knowledgebase document 50235. I learned a lot from that document. Is the source of the data you are copying an I/O module or Produced/Consumed Tag ? If so, you probably need to use the CPS instruction. The UIE/UID pair do not appear to lock out the backplane ASIC access to memory, which I think is how an I/O module updates the tag database. The short summary of that document is to copy I/O or P/C Tag data, use CPS. For data manipulated by logic, use the UIE/UID pair to reduce overhead loading on the controller. Thanks Ken, that is a very good doc. It raises a couple questions for me though. According to the doc, the CPS instruction basically disables the backplane ASIC from accessing memory, as well as disabling interrupts, while UID/UIE only disables the interrupts. Isn't communications from an ENBT handled by the backplane ASIC? If so, then UID/UIE wouldn't affect OPC comms via an ENBT module (which I know it does). Also, my understanding is that the comms timeslice is a function of the logic ASIC, but now I'm curious about the actual path of the OPC data. I suppose it must have something to do with CIP vs TCP as to which processor handles it, because it seems that the backplane ASIC would be handling any EthernetI/P I/O, but the comms timeslice affects other traffic (RSLogix5000, HMI, etc) through the same ENBT module, on the same wire, across the same backplane. In this particular case, we are not dealing with any Produced/Consumed or I/O data, but we are seeing the same kind of symptom (mixed old/new data) with a simple INT array being read by Cimplicity. Originally, the data being read was slightly scattered (an INT[90] array plus a couple standalone INT tags), all inside a UID/UIE pair. A change was made so that the array and the standalone INT tags were COPied into a single array (still inside the UID/UIE pair), which is now read with one 'call' from the OPC client. The frequency of the issue was decreased, but it still happens. I am told they tried using CPS instead of COP, but no change in frequency of occurrence was noticed. Forgive me for thinking out loud....My brain hurts, I'll think some more tomorrow. Moford, What is the OPC server? RSLinx Classic Gateway? Or something else? Does it do / is it set up to do optimized packets? If not, it may initiate separate reads for the individual elements instead of the whole thing in one packet. In that case, your logic could come in after part of the array has been read, do its UID / COP / UIE or CPS, then the OPC server comes back in and reads the next part of the array. Probably have to get a network analyzer to be sure. How big is the data structure? Does it all fit in one CIP response packet? (If memory serves, a CIP packet is 512 bytes, so with overhead, it'll support about 480 bytes of payload.) You might have to apply some more intelligent sequencing with busy/done bits or with a read-ID at the beginning and end of the data, with the client feeding back which ID has been successfully read before your controller sets up the data for the next read (incrementing the read-ID). If the client read is somehow interrupting the controller copy/write, it'll work like this: start ID=1dataend ID=1 client reads, sees identical IDs = 1, client writes back ID=1 as ackstart ID=2new dataend ID=2 (written last) client reads, sees identical IDs = 2, client writes back ID=2 as ackstart ID=3some new data client read interrupts, client sees start ID=3 at front, end ID=2 at back different, so don't ack rest of new dataend ID=3 client reads, sees identical IDs = 3, client writes back ID=3etc. If the client is reading words at a time or partial blocks and the controller copy/write interrupts, it'll look like this: start ID=1dataend ID=1 client reads front half client reads back half, sees identical IDs = 1, client writes back ID=1 client reads front halfstart ID=2 new data > uninterrupted controller copy (UID/COP/UIE or CPS)end ID=2 / client reads back half, has start ID=1 from read of front, sees end ID=2 in back client reads front half, now sees start ID=2 client reads back half, sees identical IDs = 2, client writes back ID=2etc. I hope those sequence pictures made sense..... Best of Luck!Dale, W8ABZ W8ABZ,Thanks for the reply. We have a Wireshark trace of the anomaly now, and once I get all the pertinent data together, will be starting a case with Tech Support. I'll post again here with details for all of you following along.... Your solution is a valid 'fix', and I believe it would work. However, we want to understand how this is happening in the first place, as all the documentation I am reading says it can't happen. I also would like to be able to nail down where it is happening - in the controller, in the ENBT, the OPC server, or the client. Right now the customer feels it's in the controller, but I feel it has something to do with the OPC client. We got a reply from Tech Support. Apparently the behavior observed is the way it is supposed to be. In this copied paragraph, Controller A is the OPC client, B is the CLX: ************* copy from email ************ I have analyzed your issue and here are the results as discussed. Controller A does a message to Controller B. Controller B has UID/UIE instructions around a copy instruction to get a snapshot of data. What sometimes ends up in Controller A does not look like a snapshot of this data. After looking at the information, this is correct, what ends up in B may not be a snapshot of the data. Even though the copy operations are not interrupted.. the read request itself can be interrupted at anytime. So at times, instead of a complete snapshot, you have have slightly older data at the beginning of the array then at the end. This simply the way the system is designed and is allowed to happen. ********** end of clip ********* He followed up with a handshaking suggestion as was suggested by W8ABZ, or an Unsoliceted MSG write to the OPC client, per TN 22394.I didn't know you could do that.The customer is going to implement the MSG write on his test bed. If all goes well, case closed.Thanks to all for your input! n


### Human: Connection parameters for generic 1756-Module In RSLogix 5000, if generic 1756-Module is used, there are some connection parameters such as aassembly instance/size for input, output and configuration to be enetered. What are the meaning of these pameraters and how to determin the values of them? ### Assistant: Hi cfhung, Connection Parameters are specific for some modules, and should be supplied by the Vendor of those modules. They are needed to instruct the software to create the right Input,Output and Configuration image and related tags to let you exchange datas with that particular module. They are needed mainly to use third-party communication module, and sometimes to be able to use new A-B modules that don't have yet an I/O profile in that version of the software. - fuzzy logic Thanks for the reply, but is there more detail example information about these parameters for better understanding? cfhung, Fuzzy is right when he says to look at the manual for a the specific module or device. Here's a DeviceNet example -- I hope it will be clear enough so you can see that EtherNet/IP, the Logix backplane, and other networks operate in a similar fashion. For this example, first, grab the E3/E3+ User Manual (publication193-um002_-en-p.pdf) from the ab.com online literature library. Then go to page B-6 of that manual. Appendix B contains the DeviceNet Information tables. All DeviceNet devices should have them or the equivalent information (if they expect to be purchased and used!). When the DeviceNet scanner scans a device, it connects to an Input instance and/or an Output instance of class Assembly Object (class 0x04). By picking the instance numbers, you can choose what data you send to or get from the device. On the E3+, for example, if you get Input data from Assembly Object instance 107 (page B-8, top table), you see the states of the four inputs, the two outputs, and a Warning and Fault status. If you output data to Assembly Object instance 105 (page B-7, second table), you can set the two outputs, reset a trip or remotely trip the device. Note the size of Assembly 107 and Assembly 105 for this device is one byte each. (Other Assembly instances have larger sizes, as shown in the other tables.) EtherNet/IP devices (being CIP-based) should have similar information available. 1756 backplane devices are on a proprietary network, so similar information may not be publicly available in the same format, but the manuals or the add-on device profile should give you enough info to set it up and make it work (instance numbers, sizes, and data structure formats for at least one input instance and/or one output instance). The Configuration connection is just another connection like the output assembly connection, used to send module configuration data instead of field output data. Lots of information on Assembly instances, parameters, data sizes, etc., is in the EDS file for each device. It may take you a little work to figure out how to read these, though. They're intended to be read by software, not by humans. But they are plain text. The filename for the EDS file is created from the Identity object attributes for the device: Vendor ID (RA = 0001), Product Type, Product Code, and Major and Minor Revision. Right-click on the device in RSLinx and select Device Properties to get the numbers. You'll probably have to do some decimal <--> hex conversions, but you'll figure out how to open the right EDS file. Pretty nifty. By having an assortment of Assembly instances (the way the E3 / E3+ does), you can vary what I/O information are available for a given device based on common applications. Obviously many devices just have one input layout and one output layout. But devices with lots of optional features may have a basic small layout for most applications that keeps traffic low, and a full layout for applications that use the extra features. Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ n


### Human: MOVING LICENCE RSLOGIX500 Hi, I have SOFTWARE MICROLOGIX500 with LICENCE that already installed in my PC ( not notebook ). Coudl be possible to move the LICENCE key of this software MICROLOGIX500 from my PC to my notebook ? because this PC not use anymore and I want to use notebook for troubleshooting. If possible to move the LICENCE key, please inform me HOW TO DO IT ? Regards, INDRA ### Assistant: Take a look to Aid 38224, it contains links to other technotes with the instructions releted to the activation type you're using on your PC. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hi Mr Logic, I have tired to use EVMOVE and fil in DRIVE C to A but not succeed because always error appeared. I already opened the rotection of DISKKETTE but the same result. I enclosed the error message & the picture of 3 (three ) DISKETTE & 4 (four ) CD that I have for RSLOGIX500 and I use for installed in my PC before. Please help me how to eliminate this error ? indra Usually this happen when an activation is already in use by a program, so the activation file cannot be edited. Try to take a look to the following technotes: Aid 37215Aid 28341 Let me know... - fuzzy logic There are a lot of RA services that are automatically loaded - regardless of if you run the software or not and regardless to how you select RSLinx to run as a service. Some of these prevent the activation from being moved. You can see these from the Task Manager (and terminate them for the purpose of moving your activation). I'm going to be honest and state that I just take a guess at which ones are 'Rockwell' and end them - hence I'm not going to state which ones you should terminate - I'm sure Mr Fuzzy can point you in the right direction of which services to terminate exactly. n


### Human: RSLogix 5000 Ladder Editor Color Hello, I have recently installed V17 and the foreground color for all the blocks use a dark blue color.For example: A TON instruction will have the following text in a dark blue color: TimerPresetAccum My problem is that I work with a black background and there is no way for me to change this color setting. Is there a way to change this setting?If not can you release a patch to give the possibility to do so? Thank you. ### Assistant: Unfortunately it seems not possible... :smileysad: Only workaround I can suggest is to use 3D Instruction Display... see the screenshot. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Thank you for the tip but I don't like the 3D Instruction Display. I'll just wait and hope they fix it... Hopefully. You can change the color scheme by going to Options >Ladder Editor>Font/color and then select Ladder Window. Adjust the foreground color to change the color of your rungs, which also will change the color of you instructions. fordtt, altough your solution works fine for RS5000 v16, it doesn't work with v17 ! :smileywink: See the attachment.... - fuzzy logic My bad....I misread the post.... Oh, no problem... :smileyvery-happy: It is a strange problem...maybe they've changed something in the color scheme in v17, and now those texts color are not changeable... :smileymad: - fuzzy logic I'm just wondering if they had a different development team work on v17. I mean, RSView ME numeric input objects had limits on them but the numeric input object in RSView SE didn't until CPR9. The explanation from RA was that a different development team worked on the project. Also, it would be nice if Rockwell had a bug list forum where we could list issues or anomolies for certain products. I guess this is minor compared to other problems we've had.... If you guys want to create an anomolies post as an ongoing discussion, I'd be happy to sticky it at the top AND send a nicely worded email to the product group in question to keep an eye on it. JHutch I think the whole forum could fall under the anomolies category at some point or another but how about a wish list forum. Would be a *cheap* way for AB to do product forecasting as to what people actually want. I agree, though I don't think a separate board is a way to go. Just create new threads within the existing areas when you have a suggestion/feature request. At the very least, I'll make sure the product managers see all such threads (some lurk around here on the sly just in case those types of posts are made). JHutch Fair enough. Thanks for being a willing participant.... Perhaps they broke it when they fixed something else in the Tools | Options dialogs. It seems like forever that the print settings never worked and you had to change display settings to get the print to change. Perhaps that was fixed in 17. Haven't tried it because I learned to live with the defaults. :-( I did a project where we designed the Equipment Phases in SFC in 15, and when we printed them, we wanted to print the comments ( //this is a comment ) in black, and everything else in gray. Became our design document. But I had to change the editor settings to make it happen, making the ST in SFCs practically uneditable. So I reverted to defaults. I'll have to open up 17 and see if the print settings work now. Dale, W8ABZ fordtt, now that's an idea. I can think of a few items off the top of my head to post on that one. n


### Human: compactlogix L32e problem Hi; I am using belown hardware configuration and RSlogix 5000 15.01 in my project. 1769-PA4 POWER SUPPLY1769-L32E COMPACTLOGIX ETHERNET PROCESSOR,1769-IQ16 16 24 VDC INPUT MODULE 1769-OB16 16 24 VDC SOURCE OUTPUT MODULE1769-IF8 8 ANALOG INPUT MODULE1769-ECR RIGHT END CAP I programmed my plc and it is working good. But when i power off CPU and reenergized again i could not see analog input signals.I am trying connect to CPU and redownload my program, dowloading started than intrerrupted and CPU OK LED is blinking red. When i saw thi problem i am doing this secuence;I power off PLCremove CPU batteryreinstlall batteryPower on PLC againthan in rslogix5000 - module properties - inhibit module chek box unsign and sign againthan i can download my program againat the end plc will ok. every power off i am living this problem what can i do to solve this problem Plesae send me your comment, your expriencesRegards ### Assistant: Erol,When this occurs again, how about a screen shot of your processor status (errors) and a screen shot of your IF8 module properties general, connection and configuration. Possibility exists that you may have a firmware issue. n


### Human: micrologix 1100 to micrologix 1100 through Channel 0 Can I use a 1761-cbl-am00 cable? I need to pull info from a slave 1100 to a master plc, I want to make sure if I use this cable I'm not going to damage the plc or the comm port! ### Assistant: Here we miss Ken Roach response, as he is a networks expert and for sure can help on that ! :smileywink: So, some notes from me about your request: 1. directly communicating CH0 ports of Micrologix controllers has never been a supported features2. for sure you CANNOT connect Mx1100 ch0 to another Mx controller (1000-1200-1500) using -AM00 cable, as communication pins used for RS-485 communications are alternately used for 24V power on the other MicroLogix controllers, and this will cause damage to the RS-232/485 communication port of Mx11003. so, the question to Ken Roach (thanks :smileytongue: ) any issue to connect together the RS-485 pins of two Mx1100 controllers, using -AM00 cable ?4. side question... it would be possible to connect two Mx1100 controllers together via DH-485 using for both a 1763-NC01 cable (ch0 first mx1100 -nc01cable - nc01cable - ch0 second mx1100) ? I will start a new thread for the last question to those who are interested... Apologize to not have an answer for you bewilder, just trying to contribute... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic For anyone interested in this topic, yes you can connect 2 Micrologix 1100 together with 1761-cbl-am00 with no problems. i tested yester day with no problems. allen bradley tech support says it was ok. Thanks bewilder to report your feedback here in the Forum ! I was working *around* this possibility through Ken Roach help, but your research and tests have been quicker ! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic RA Knowledgbase Answer ID # 18942 has pinouts for a number of cables including the 1761-CBL-AM00, which has a right-angle mini-DIN8 connector on either end, which is suitable for connection to any MicroLogix family controller Channel 0 serial port. That information should be in several other installation manuals too. The 1761-CBL-AM00 is a null-modem cable that connects Receive to Transmit as well as connecting Clear-to-Send to Ready-to-Send. 24V 1 <---> 1 24V GND 2 <---> 2 GND RTS 3 <---> 6 CTS RXD 4 <---> 7 TXD DCD 5 <---> 5 DCD CTS 6 <---> 3 RTS TXD 7 <---> 4 RXD 0VDC 8 <---> 8 0VDC Note that GND on Pin 2 above means RS-232 signal common, in contrast to the +24VDC power common on Pin 8. On the MicroLogix 1100 and 1400 controllers, A-B removed the +24VDC power supply circuit on pins 1 and 8 and replaced it with the Signal A and Signal B pins for the embedded RS-485 port. There's no problem connecting both the RS-232 and RS-485 signal wires on the MicroLogix 1100 controllers. I've never put a scope on them to figure out if they are both active at the same time. Where you would probably have a problem is if you connected one of the MicroLogix that has an embedded RS485 port on the Channel 0 plug (MicroLogix 1100 and 1400) to a MicroLogix that has +24VDC on pins 1 and 8 (all other MicroLogix controllers). RS-485 transcievers usually operate in a range of -7 to +12 VDC, so the +24V might damage the RS485 chip inside the MicroLogix 1100/1400. The +24VDC pin was implemented on the older MicroLogix to power the handheld programmer (remember those !) and accessory devices like the 1761-NET-AIC, -DNI, and -ENI. It is also responsible for more than a few PC serial port smoke-releases when people have built their own serial cables without consulting the user manual. Thanks Ken for your complete answer ! - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Connect Micrologix 1100 together using -NC01 cables Is it possible to connect two Mx1100 controllers together via DH-485 protocol using for both a 1763-NC01 cable (ch0 first mx1100 -nc01cable - nc01cable - ch0 second mx1100) ? In case it is possible, which could be the maximum distance between them (max RS-485 cable length) ? Thanks in advance,- fuzzy logic ### Assistant: That's one of the intended used of the 1763-NC01 cable; to allow access to the A, B, and COM wires of the isolated RS-485 port built into Channel 0 of the MicroLogix 1100. The RS-485 trunk length is the same as if you were using 1761-NET-AIC or any other converter; 4000 feet. Thanks Ken for your kind reply. :smileywink: So, what about the other thread from which this answer comes ? It seems to me the direct connection between serial ports using -AM00 cable, although unsupported and thus not recommended, should work in that case (between Mx1100 to Mx1100); the connection between RS-485 pins shouldn't create problems, as it is the same connection you have joining two -NC01 cables like you've confirmed it is allowed. Right ?! :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic I am double-posting this to cover both questions about the -AM00 cable. RA Knowledgbase Answer ID # 18942 has pinouts for a number of cables including the 1761-CBL-AM00, which has a right-angle mini-DIN8 connector on either end, which is suitable for connection to any MicroLogix family controller Channel 0 serial port. That information should be in several other installation manuals too. The 1761-CBL-AM00 is a null-modem cable that connects Receive to Transmit as well as connecting Clear-to-Send to Ready-to-Send. 24V 1 <---> 1 24V GND 2 <---> 2 GND RTS 3 <---> 6 CTS RXD 4 <---> 7 TXD DCD 5 <---> 5 DCD CTS 6 <---> 3 RTS TXD 7 <---> 4 RXD 0VDC 8 <---> 8 0VDC Note that GND on Pin 2 above means RS-232 signal common, in contrast to the +24VDC power common on Pin 8. On the MicroLogix 1100 and 1400 controllers, A-B removed the +24VDC power supply circuit on pins 1 and 8 and replaced it with the Signal A and Signal B pins for the embedded RS-485 port. There's no problem connecting both the RS-232 and RS-485 signal wires on the MicroLogix 1100 controllers. I've never put a scope on them to figure out if they are both active at the same time. Where you would probably have a problem is if you connected one of the MicroLogix that has an embedded RS485 port on the Channel 0 plug (MicroLogix 1100 and 1400) to a MicroLogix that has +24VDC on pins 1 and 8 (all other MicroLogix controllers). RS-485 transcievers usually operate in a range of -7 to +12 VDC, so the +24V might damage the RS485 chip inside the MicroLogix 1100/1400. The +24VDC pin was implemented on the older MicroLogix to power the handheld programmer (remember those !) and accessory devices like the 1761-NET-AIC, -DNI, and -ENI. It is also responsible for more than a few PC serial port smoke-releases when people have built their own serial cables without consulting the user manual. Thanks ! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Powerflex 4 Fault Code 2 HELP! Hey, I've had a powerflex 4 running for about 4 years now and tonight it stopped working and started flashing F002? Does anyone know how to fix this error? Cheers, Jon_ ### Assistant: This fault happens if you have configured a Digital Input to 3 - AuxFault, and this input is removed. Try to check the parameters to see if something has changed.... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 1784-KTCX15 Is ControlNet Communication Interface Card 1784-KTCX15 Installation Instructions, publication number 1784-5.33 available in the website? ### Assistant: Not in the Literature website, you may find it attached to Aid 50353 :smileyhappy: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 1756 CNB/a Requires NVS Update I have a Logix5000 1756-CNB/A Module that displays a message Requires NVS Update. Looking at the Device Properties through RSLinx, it shows the Vendor, Product Type, Product Code and Revision as zero. I have tried to use Control Flash to restore the settings but will not proceed as there is no module information to compare against. My Question is, has anyone else experienced this problem as I am unable to find any information about it, and if you have is my module repairable? Any assistance would be gratefully received. Thanks James Taylor. ### Assistant: I think the only possibility here is to send it to repair... just call in the Technical Support before, maybe they can confirm you if it is reparable... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 1794-OW8 outputs not activating Hello everyone, The short version: Version 1756-L63 (firmware 16.7) in a 4 slot rack with a 1756-ENBT/A (firmware 4.1), connected via ethernet to an N-Tron 8 port hub. Two 1794-AENT/B's (firmware 4.1) are also connected to this hub, with a mix of IA16 input cards and OW8 output cards for each AENT. We are seeing inputs change state in the controller tags from the IA16 cards, however when we force the OW8 outputs on, the LED on the front of the OW8 card(s) does not turn on, and the output does not activate. No errors, warnings or other signs of discontent within the I/O tree in Logix. I have tried swaping cards, checking for bent pins and cycling power to both the IO racks and PLC. I have tried forcing outputs on several OW8 cards in other racks with similar results. Our PLC had previoulsy been connected to the AENT's through an ethernet switch that may be managed (not sure). We have since moved the PLC rack and connected it locally to the N-Tron hub mentioned above. I have spoken with a very nice person at tech support who promised to get back to me tomorrow as we're both stumped. In the meantime, any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Steve ### Assistant: I ran across this not too long ago. Inputs could be read, Ethernet showed okay in the project tree but couldn't write to my AENT output modules. Turns out I blew it when I made my ethernet cable. One of the wire pairs had a bad connection in the RJ45 connector. Reterminated the connector and everything has been rock solid since. Hope this helps. Good luck. Did this work before you changed switches ? Frankly it sounds like the way connections work when the controller is in Program mode ! Are you literally using the Force feature of RSLogix 5000, with the Force Mask and Enabling Forces steps, or are you just placing a 1 into the tag value ? Can you post the ControlLogix program, even just the I/O configuration ? What are the LEDs on the 1794-AENT doing ? If the FLEX adapters were not getting cyclic output data from the ControlLogix, then they would declare the I/O connection broken and you wouldn't get input data updates either, and of course you'd see that symptom in the I/O tree in RSLogix 5000 and the I/O LED on the controller. The 1794-OW8 relays require an external +24VDC supply, but the 1794-OW8 does not have an active LED like the analog modules do to indicate they have power. Have you verified the wiring (Installation Instructions 1794-IN019) and voltage ? Thanks for the suggestions folks. Turns out the 24VDC wiring to the TBNF was incorrect. I had checked it to verify 24VDC power was present, but in my rush to get things working, I didn't verify polarity. While the install instructions are perfectly clear, I think a green OK LED to indicate 24VDC power is present would be a nice addition to this particular card. n


### Human: micrologix 1500 In my projects i am using micrologix 1500 and in this i am using one 1769-if16c analog module. But in my rslogix 500 which has version 7.30 cpr 9. In this IO cofiguration it does not have card available . so what should i do for this? ### Assistant: See Appendix B of the User Manual It can be configured as Generic Module.... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: 1756-OB16D/A module giving Internal Error 16#0065 Hi All,1756-OB16D/A module giving Internal Error 16 ### Assistant: Hi Cherry, probably you have a Module with firmware revision 2.x and you've configured it as Major Revision 3... so you cannot use Compatible Keying: Compatible Module - the following criteria must be met, or else the inserted module will reject the connection:the Module Types, Catalog Number, and Major Revision must matchthe Minor Revision of the physical module can be equal to or greater than the one specified in the software, except in cases where the module is able to emulate older revisions. Disable Keying will give you the possibility to use your module, anyway you may go offline, delete the module and re-insert it using the correct Major Revision, and then it will work fine without errors also with Compatible Keying... Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic n


### Human: cannot open gfx files in rsview32 dear All, I have faced an issue in rsview32.I have downloaded some of the faceplates from rockwell websites for rsview32.Now whenever i try to use these faceplates (gfx files)It gives the message cannot open the gfx filewhat could be the problem ### Assistant: Which is the RSView32 version do you have ?Maybe the .gfx file has been realized with a newer version of the software and cannot be open with *old* releases... May you provide the link and the name of the files are you trying ? Are you sure they are for RSView32 and not View SE ? - fuzzy logic Hi FL, I have downloaded some of the faceplates from this link. http://samplecode.rockwellautomation.com. iam working with rsview32 version 7.40.00 Regarding the downloaded file iam not sure whether it is for rsviewse or rsview32 but the file was with .gfx extension and description was rsview32 graphics file. I have another issue which crept yesterday I was using some activex controls like conbobox and textbox in my project.When i tried to copy the file from my laptop to my pc it gave the messageUnable to load the activex content newer version of activex requiredIs there any version difference between my PC and my laptopIf that is the case then how to solve it. Please indicate a file name or description of one of those Faceplates you want to use, so I may download and test... About your last issue: RSView32 allow users to insert ActiveX controls into their graphics. ActiveX controls are programs that are hosted within other programs. RSView32 tracks the version of the ActiveX control. If an application is deployed to another computer, and if that computer has an earlier version of that control installed, the graphic will either open with the ActiveX control hached out or not open at all, and error appear. In general, the way to correct Newer version of ActiveX control required is:Identify what ActiveX control is required by examining the error message.Once you know the name, you can identify the file that contains that ActiveX control by following the procedure from answer ID 31206Locate this file on the original development computer, or any computer that can open this screen without getting this error.Copy this file to the computer that is having the problem. Copy it to the same directory path where it original existed on the development computer.Register the control by using the Windows RegSvr32 command. Example:Open a Command prompt and enter: regsvr32 C:WindowsSystem32Fm20.dllAbout the above suggested technote, a TechConnect Authorization is required to access... if you've not a TechConnect Contract, send me a Private Message here in the Forum with your e-mail address, and I will send you back some infos. - fuzzy logic Hi FL, http://samplecode.rockwellautomation.com/intradoc-cgi/nph-idc_cgi.exe?IdcService=GET_SEARCH_RESULTS&QueryText=%28dSecurityGroup+%3CMATCHES%3E+%27Sample_Code%27%29+%3CAND%3E+%28%28xSC_Products+%3CSUBSTRING%3E+%27Software%27+%3CAND%3E+xSC_ProductsLevel2+%3CSUBSTRING%3E+%27RSView%27%29%29&urlTemplate=%2Fidc%2Fgroups%2Fpublic%2Fdocuments%2Fwebassets%2Fsc_search_results.hcst&ftx=&prepopVal=&SortSpec=&myProduct=&myProductLvl2=&myIndustries=&myTechnologies=&SC_Products=Software&SC_ProductsLvl2=RSView&SC_Industries=&SC_Technologies=&SC_dDocName=&SC_Title=&SC_Description=&SC_Catalog_Numbers=&SC_Products_display=Software&SC_ProductsLvl2_display=RSView&SC_Industries_display=&SC_Technologies_display=&queryTextPairs=&passedDocType=&ResultCount=25&SortField=xSC_Title_EN&SortOrder=Desc if you are not able to reach the link download from the link which i have send in the private message This is the link which contains sample code for rsview32. Path::Samplecode-rsview- Process AOI and Faceplate: Analog Input -After unzip rsview folder contains some faceplates liketmpanaloginput.gfxtmpanaloginput_config.gfxtmpanaloginput_status.gfxtmpanaloginput_trend.gfx Thanks Hi, the files you're trying to import are for RSView SE (FactoryTalk View SE) and will not work for RSView32. :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Importing/Opening older apps in FT View SE 5.00 I am having trouble manipulating older applications after updating to 5.00. Specifically, the app seems to open or import okay, but opening any of the displays causes Studio to crash. I don't think the app is corrupted, as any app does the same thing. Any advice? Thanks, Richard ### Assistant: When you say opening any of the displays causes Studio to crash what does happen exactly ?Do you see errors ?Does the program disappear ? - fuzzy logic I get the The program needs to close, do you want to send Microsoft a message window. This happens immediately upon opening any of the displays. Try the following, unless already done: Test 1. Install latest patch rollup Test 2. Try to repair installation of the following, in order: 1. FactoryTalk Services Platform 2. FactoryTalk View Machine Edition 3. RSLinx Enterprise Let me know the results.... - fuzzy logic Fuzzy- I don't want to head off in the wrong direction. I am using FT View CPR9 SR1 with FTSP 2.10.01, which I believe are the latest patches. In order to repair the installation, should I: a) unload the patch(es), b) go back to the install DVD, and c) re-load the patches? Should I uninstall using Windows uninstaller? Is there a known good patch or version I should be using? Many thanks! Richard Richard, if you have FTSP and RSLinx Enterprise CPR9 SR1 on your PC, the latest patches are in Aid 60350...just verify if you have the last available. After that, I would try to remove SR1 software first (from Windows Control Panel), then repair, then reapply patches. Sad thing here is that the above have not always solved the problem... :smileysad: Just a note... what about a new project ? Do its displays open ? - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Alarms and Events Remote Acknowledge. Hello We've recently started to look at the new Alarms and Events system included in CPR9 as we're considering migrating existing CPR7 / CPR9 system with hmi-tag alarms, or might consider it for upcomming projects, and have a question regarding the Tag-based Alarms. In the alarm definition there is a tag that you can set to display acknowledge status, but it seems that that tag isn't monitored for changes. What we're looking for is a tag that tells the Alarm server that the alarm has been acknowledged (like the remote ack field in the FTView ME alarm system), so we can put the full alarm logic in the PLCs without using the new alarm functions. Is there any such functions that we may have overlooked, or does anyone have any ideas on how to replicate the functionality in other ways? Best regards Andreas ### Assistant: Hi Andreas, you may accomplish this exposing the Alarms&Events Summary to VBA and using some code. To be able to *catch* the remote acknowledge request, you may use the code as explained in Aid 22007; add a Numeric Display object in a page that is always running (you may alse set this object as invisible), so that the code will check the value of the associated tag and when changes to a value you want, executes the command. A list of the ACK *commands* is inside Aid 48785 An example of command could be: ExecuteCommand invoke MyAlmDisplay.AlarmEventSummary1.AckSelected() ...where MyAlmDisplay is the Display where the Summary is. Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Hmm, so to enable separate alarm triggering for each alarm I would need to create a script for each ack tag. When approaching a few hundred different ack tags I'm afraid it would be abit hard to still get a good grasp of the system (that's something I liked about the RSView hmi-alarms, by structuring my tag folders I would have a very good control over what alarms existed, and when adding new ones, or deleteing old, everything was in one place so it's easy to keep track of).It's a great idea for applications with a common ack bit for many alarms though, atleast aslong as one can expect that there's a client up and running the display (which we can't really in a distributed enviroment, but on standalone systems I guess one could expect it).I guess we'll keep using the old HMI-tag alarms for atleast another version of the software.Thanks for your answer. BTW, if you're in vba to start with, why not call the MyAlmDisplay.AlarmEventSummary1.AckSelected() in vba instead of going out to the View enviroment and calling methods from there, is there a performance gain from using Invoke() even though we started in the vba enviroment? Best RegardsAndreas Hmmm... my low ability in using VBA is shown... :smileytongue: I was in trouble issuing that VBA command as the Numeric Display object is on a different display than the one where the AlarmEventSummary1 is... So I've used that workaround... :smileysurprised: but I'm ready to learn something if you want... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic For manipulating displays through vba use the Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(Index) syntax to get the object.Lets say you have an open display called a, with a text object called text1 exposed to vba. To add test to the end of the caption from another display you'd use the following: Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(a).Text1.Caption = Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(a).Text1.Caption &  test Keep in mind that the display a must be opened for this to work. So in short you change the usual me. part of the code in vba for Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(DisplayName).So the example above would be something like Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(MyAlmDisplay).AlarmEventSummary1.AckSelected() Allthough if you allready have a hidden always-up display as in this case, I don't think it would hurt to put an Alarm Summary on it too, so you have everything for the remote acknowledge on the same display (much easier to troubleshoot when one doesn't have to jump around between different displays to follow the logic :) ). Remember to expose everything that needs to be used by vba, usually when I've got a script that doesn't work I've forgotten to exposed one of the objects that is used to run it. Best RegardsAndreas Nice ! It works, just I was needed to remove the brackets at the end,otherwise I got a Compiler Error; here the result. Me.Application.LoadedDisplays.Item(MyAlmDisplay).AlarmEventSummary1.AckSelected This is the why I like so much this Forum ! Thanks for your VBA lesson :smileyhappy: , I owe you one ! - fuzzy logic n


### Human: ANALOG INPUT SCALING FOR SLC 5/02 NI4 IN RS LOGIC SOFTWARE HI, Can anybody help me Pl.....About how to scale the analog input in SLC 5/02 plc analog module (ni4) ### Assistant: Hi, you may use the SCL instruction... it is explained with examples in Analog I/O User Manual , chapter 6 Module's range is on page 2-7 of the same manual. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: HELP!!! Hi, i need to know if RSVIEW32 runs over Windows vista business sp2, thanks ### Assistant: Hmmm.... due to the fact there are no traces about this OS in Rockwell Software Compatibility Matrix, I guess it is not yet tested... this doesn't mean it will not work at all, but it is neither supported nor granted... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: PanelView Plus Application with Japanese Text I am trying to add Japanese language support to a PanelView 600 Plus. After talking to Tech Support today, they referred me to several knowledgebase articles. However, they all are for Version 3 or 4, and don’t seem applicable to the multiple language support found in Version 5. I am using FactoryTalk ME 5.00.00 and a 2711P-T6C20D. I have exported the file to xls, added translation to column h, and reimported. The language does switch, but doesn’t properly display the Japanese characters. I only get characters similar to rectangles. I downloaded msgothic.ttc as suggested in Knowledgebase article 27118 even though it doesn't appear to have anything to do with Japanese characters. My original application is in English using the Arial font and I would like to add Japanese language support. I think that it is a font issue since I get different characters (just not the right ones) when I switch languages on the PanelView application. I've previously worked on a Portuguese translation, but not one that requires a different character set. Thanks. ### Assistant: Hi, following are the needed steps to realize what you need; just double check to follow them correctly... :smileywink: 1. Develop your application in English using Arial font2. Add Japanese Language to the application3. Export Strings for all languages to an Excel spreadsheet4. Install the font msgothic.ttc (or the one you prefer) in the PC where you're using View Studio (just copy it in Windows - Fonts folder, the files are in the PanelView Plus CE Accessories CD shipped with the PanelView Plus CE)... Aid 27118 5. Add translations using Excel to the Japanese column, using the Font you've just installed (i.e. MS Gothic)6. Import translated file to the View ME application (if you will open the project using Japanese as starting language, you will notice all translated texts will appear as squares, this because you've not changed the used font, i.e. Arial...this is normal)7. Download the needed fonts in the PVP (i.e. msgothic.ttc) using instructions in Aid 270818. Restart the PVP9. Configure a Font Linking inside the PVP (instructions in Aid 44861); linking Arial base font to the Japanese Font (i.e. msgothic.ttc) you will obtain all the Arial texts will display as Japanese characters when this language will be selected10. Create the Runtime Application, download it to the PVP and Run Application.11. Try the language switching, it should work fine ! Hope this helps, - fuzzy logic Thanks for the quick answer. Regarding item 4: do I have to use one of the fonts listed in Aid 27118 for Japanese? If so, what's the difference between the various ones (subsets) listed? I would like to use one the smallest file size listed (subset 30_1_19) because of the limited memory of the PV600+. Yes, you need to use those fonts... subsets are files generated from the original font, with reduced number of characters, to see the difference you may open Windows Character Map, point the Font and scroll available characters... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Logix V13 I am attempting to add a module to an operating Control Logix system. When I goto the module configuration and right click the New Module selection is greyed out. I was able to add a module in a simular fassion using Logix V15. Does anybody know if there is a problem doing this using V13 ?? ### Assistant: Maybe a silly question.... are there available free slots to add the new module in the chassis configuration ? :smileytongue: Otherwise, may you post the .ACD file (insert it in a .zip file) ? - fuzzy logic The option to add a module to the local or a remote chassis at runtime was not added until firmware revision 15. Thanks, I hought that may be the case.I'll have to Flash it to 15 when we shutdown next. Ahhh.... you're trying it in online / run mode ... :smileysurprised: always I read too quickly... :smileytongue: MikeThom answer is correct, though... Aid 45086 Apologize for confusion.... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: shutting down windows from ME runtime Hello, I am running FTView ME runtime 5.1 on a VersaView 1500P computer, running Windows XP SP3.I would like to completely shut down the computer from the ME application. How may I do that ? RegardsHep ### Assistant: Only possibility I can think is to use Program Launcher Activex (Aid 20474) to launch a shutdown utility...there are many free downloads on the web, try to see THIS results from Google... Just I've not tested this, if you want, give it a try... :smileywink: Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Hello, I used your ActiveX to launch a utility called AM WinOff.It works quite good. ThanksHep Nice to see it ! Thanks for your feedback, really appreciated... and if you want also to assign Kudos to my previous answer, it would be great! :smileytongue: - fuzzy logic I already did it ... Thanks, I appreciate, but I can't see your Kudos assigned :smileysad: ; there is only 1 Kudos and comes from JHutch... Never mind.... - fuzzy logic You are right ...It didn't works ... I've on it sevral times, but nothing appends ... I am running FireFox 3.0.13 SorryHep Yeah, it is a known problem.... I've posted a thread for that... just installing last 3.5.2. version of FF (or using IE) will work fine. :smileysurprised: - fuzzy logic upgrade done, it works ... Hep, many thanks for you patience and cooperation ! :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Fuzzy is such a Kudos junkie ... the thread to fix the kudos problem is twice as long as the thread to actually fix the problem ... ;) JHutch I'm a Forum junkie, this is the reality ! :smileysurprised: And you JHutch should be happy if I spend my time to teach and support Forum users to use all the feartures you 've made available ! :smileywink: I like so much Kudos and Solution's marks because they confirm me I've done a good job and solved somebody troubles... unfortunately in the *real* world is more and more difficult to receive gratitude for your good job...so let me enjoy this little satisfaction here... :smileytongue: :smileyvery-happy:- fuzzy logic I *am* happy you're a junkie! ... but does that make me your drug dealer? Hmm... JHutch Oh, yessss ! :smileyvery-happy: - fuzzy logic Hope you will not give fuzzi answers :smileyvery-happy: Hope you will not give fuzzi answers :smileyvery-happy: Not always.... :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Ascii display on a PVP from a PLC5 I have an older process that has a higher end HMI installed on it. I would like to switch out the HMI to a PVP1500. I would like to do this without much change in the PLC. I have a screen that displays and allows entry of some ascii data on the old HMI. The ascii data is contained in A46:0-9. When I set up a tag in the PVP to look at this location and make the length = 10 the tag will only show what is in A46:0. Is there a simple way to have the HMI tag look at A46:0-A46:9? Thanks ### Assistant: Aid 24651 contains informations about String display for PLC-5 data in View ME. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Smart Guard 600 with ethernet comms Can I program this plc throught the ethernet port, and if so what software do I need to use. Also is there any specific publications that explain this, I have found several about devicenet and the usb but not the ethernet. Thanks ### Assistant: Yes, you can do that, informations about needed software are in Aid 61509. See also Aid 56983 , User Manual , Reference Manual , Inst. Instructions for other infos about Smarguard 600. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Question about data logging and retrieval in Micrologix 1100 Hello,I am working with a micrologix 1100, and I have several floats which have to stored throughout the day, and then downloaded every day by an operator. I have created the data logging file, but I can't figure out how to get the data out of the PLC. The manual states that There are a number of retrieval tools designed for use with Palm OS, Window 9x, and Windows NT. You can download these free tools from our website. I haven't been able to find these free tools, nor have I found any examples on how to retrieve data. Can someone help me out with either examples or explanations. AG ### Assistant: I was curious where you created your data log files. Are they inside the controller? I have used data log models with an HMI package (like RSView) to log PLC data, but I am not familiar with any native data retrieval methods. eeprom, here the link to the Data Logging Utility: http://www.ab.com/programmablecontrol/plc/micrologix/downloads.html Aid 18498 contains a Quick Start Guide, there is also another thread that could be interesting for you: http://forums.rockwellautomation.com/rockwell/board/message?board.id=Logix&message.id=1651#M1651 samprou, chapter 22 of Micrologix Reference Manual contains info about Data Logging feature. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Redundancy in ControlLogix - We have a project that is requiring Redundant CLX controllers. We have two processors in the system so we have a two chassis with two processors each. We have dual ethernet modules (EN2T) and dual control net modules (CN2R). We are using L61 processors all around. I have configured remote chassis' before but have not had any experience with redundancy. It gets deeper, we have one remote chassis that is controlled by one CLX, we have two chassis that are controlled by the second CLX. The two CN2R's are split, one pair (primary and secondary) goes to the single chassis and the second pair (primary and secondary) goes to the other two remotes. Each of the chassis connected to the second processor are different equipment islands, completly different functions Does anyone here have a source that has sample redundancy layouts? Any pointers would be appreciated like you wouldn't believe. ### Assistant: Semi, I'd start with the ControlLogix Redundancy System User Manual, publication 1756-UM523F-EN-P (12/06) and the ControlLogix Enhanced Redundancy System 16.80 Release Notes, publication 1756-RN650C-EN-E (06/09) on the Literature Library website. A Literature Library search using keyword Redundancy will likely have these and other useful pubs on the first page or so of listings. We did a system using the 15.60 version of the CL Redundancy System User Manual and it worked very well. Once we followed the rules for CNet node numbering, that is! You'll want to go through the manual carefully once, then lay out your system with node numbers, slot locations, firmware revisions, etc., all documented. Then go through the manual again, checking your design against each item in the manual to make sure you have it right. Be sure you have downloaded the redundancy bundle of firmware updates from the Software Updates site for your target system and installed it -- then ControlFlash will be all set to go when you fire up the hardware. Best Regards,Dale, W8ABZ Dale, thanks for the information. I have to use the version for release 17 of the software as I will have dual processors in the same chassis.My problem is I don't know if the release 16.# release will let me setup the system as needed. At first we were fine as the project was put on hold indefinately, last week they activated the project and want some immediate program information. We will be using Control Net for our redundant remote I/O x2, one for the BMS and the second for the non-safety portions of the project. We will have the Primary and Secondary chassis' for the processors and communications. One chassis for the BMS and two chassis' for the non-safety related processes. If you happen across any new manuals for the later revisions of software please not them here. I'm not desperate yet, but I'm getting close!!!!!!!! Thanks again. Tom / Semilogical Tom, I confirm the hints Dale gave you, just want to add some notes... If I have correctly understood, you have two separated ControlNet networks; this particular layout is illustrated in the -UM523F User Manual, page 28; there are some rules to use that configuration, follow indications on same manual, starting at page 35. Then, review Aid 61501 for a Quick check of your configuration, Aid 41441 and Aid 45930 for Controlnet rules in redundant system. Anyway, my last suggestion is to contact your RA representative to let them confirm and validate your configuration, just to be sure to be on the right way, as redundancy is a quite complex system, not so difficult to run, but it must be planned carefully. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RSView 32 popup not working properly I have created several popup type displays. When you click on an object on a display, the popup is set up to display on top of display in which it was called. Instead, the popup is opening and filling the entire screen, like maximizing itself to fill the screen. Can anyone help me? I have tried so many different combinations and none have worked. If someone could give me settings that work, I will try it. Thanks, ### Assistant: Only two settings I remember for which this could happen are: Display command with /max optionDisplay settings for On Top - Size to Main Windows at Runtime flagged Which is the RSView32 version are you using ?Did you also tried the same with a new application, with just a couple of displays ?Could you attach an example application to a new post ? - fuzzy logic It is really weird, it runs fine on my laptop but when I run it at other location, it fills the screen. The other location is either server 2003 or XP and it is has some type of video card in which it will display on 4 large plasma screens. It might be something with the video driver?? What do you think. Like I said, when I just run a graphic and call the popup from the running graphic, it works fine, from my laptop. Not sure what is going on. Thanks, Hmmm. yes, my guess is troubles come from that video card / configuration. Unfortunately I can't help on that.... just want to point you out to some technotes about multiple monitors use, maybe you'll find something useful... :smileysurprised: Aid 8377 - Aid 51205Aid 34321Aid 24607Aid 43521 Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Simple way to compare the values in two instances of a UDT? I have a UDT called Recipe. It consists of DINTS, SINTS, REALS and BOOLS. I have one instance of this UDT called Current_Recipe and another called Recipe_Library. Recipe_Library is a 10 element array. What I want to do is compare ALL of the values in Current_Recipe against Recipe_Library[x]. Is there a simple way in Logix5000 to do this, or do I have to go through piece by piece to make the compare? I'm checking to make sure that the temperatures, times, etc are the same in both. If it matters, I am using V16. Thanks! Joe ### Assistant: Hmmm... it would be not so easy as all of the compare type instructions must be specified down to the element level of a file or structure of a UDT in order to execute, therefore it would not be an easy task to compare all the values of a complex UDT to see if perhaps they had changed or to make sure they are what they are supposed to be..... take a look to Aid 45384, there is a method you may utilize... Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic Joe, Maybe COP each UDT-typed Tag to an appropriately-sized DINT array, then use an FSC to compare the DINT arrays? Use the FSC in ALL mode, and clear the EN bit right before you scan it. All you care about is the Found bit after the compare. Might take some scan time, plus the memory for the two added array tags, but the code itself should be reasonably simple. For your array, instead of using FOR instructions (which require a new routine), I'd just set a DINT index tag to zero, then start a loop (using LBL at the top and JMP at the bottom) to increment the index of which one in the array I copy and compare. (For the singleton, you only need to copy it once, before the loop.) If you do use the FOR, you should be able to pass a UDT instance from the calling routine and have it show up in a DINT array in the called routine. Subroutine parameter passing (stacking and unstacking) doesn't do type checking. Just return the Found status from the subroutine. Hope this helps!Dale, W8ABZ Hello Joe, I have exactly the same question ... What was your solution ? Did someone wrote an AOI for that ? regardsHep n


### Human: Activation Lost- System crash I lost my factory talk activation coz of system crash, how can i get a new activation, please suggest a way forward ### Assistant: Just contact TechSupport; giving them the Serial Number and the Product Key of your software, they will be able to help you to activate your software again. Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Panelview Plus 1250 will not accept username/password to access protected functions Hi all, we are using a Panelview Plus 1250 to run an application that allows the operator of one of our pieces of machinery to monitor the status of the machine. We have programmed some 'Engineering' Functions the controls for which are behind a password lockout. Occasionally we need to access these to make minor adjustments to the machine parameters. However, very often, the screen will not accept the username/password. I know the password/username being entered is correct (there is only one so it cant be confused). The only way out of this is to re-download the original programme. Is there a way of determining what the password might be when it wont accept from the panel or the software??? I originally thought maybe the panel was somehow corrupting the runtime application, so i programmed a new panel and the same thing happens. The software used for programming is RSView Studio ME V4.00. The username/password is just programmed using this software, is it possible there is a glitch in the RSView software or runtime application which causes this to happen??? Many thanks for any help you can give. ### Assistant: Make sure that user/password combination is in the windows login info for that computer... password protection can do funny things if it doesn't line up just right. project user password to computer user password privileges level n


### Human: Gaurd Logix Communication of Devicenet using PDN card I am using Guard Logix 1756-L62S Processor with LSP Module and in the same rack I take Device net card 1756-DNB andI am using POINT SAFETY IO(1734-IB8S, 1734-OB8S) by using communication card 1734-PDN. Can we use this concept? I got doubt because I could not be able to configure this hardware on Logix 5000 software. Should be we buy and addon for this software.? I appreciate for quick reply since my design in under hold due to this doubt. ### Assistant: Yes, it is an allowed configuration, but you have to be aware of some limitations; see Aid 57732 and Aid 61023. The GuardLogix Safety Editor is only included with the Full and Professional editions of RSLogix 5000. Service and Standard editions allow upload/download and view capabilities, but you cannot edit or add safety tags, safety instructions or safety modules.Alternatively, the GuardLogix editor can be purchased separately and added to Standard edition to gain safety functionality. The catalog number for this part is 9324-RLDGLXE. NOTE: If you are attempting to edit or create a Safety project with a version of RSLogix 5000 other than that listed above, you will observe the following symptoms:Safety Task is grayed out (unable to edit)Safety module configurations cannot be edited or changedSafety modules are not available in the pick list for you to add to your I/O configurationYou cannot select L61S, L62S or L63S when creating a new projectYou cannot Safety Lock/Unlock, create or delete a Safety Signature Hope this helps… - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Communtcation Error on Powerflex 40 Drive with DeviceNet I have a DeviceNet MCC and a Poweflex 40 Drive in a tub. I am having very random Faults they say Fault 71 Adaptor Net Loss. The Lights on the communication card are flashing Green on the Mod light and the Net A light. It does this off and on every few days. If you turn the power off to the drive it resets it and the lights all go solid green and the drive starts to function correctly. Its goes from device net to a scanner to ethernet. Any Ideas ?? ### Assistant: Check to see how many Dnet nodes you have on the link and also how fast is your RPI (update time) set for the drive. Also, you can configure the drive to not fault or alarm on net loss. I am having the same problem but it is with Profibus. I am using PowerFlex 40 drives in Multi-drive mode on Profibus using 22-COMM-P adapter with Siemens S7-300 series PLC. I have two drives in Multi-drive mode and one in Single drive mode. The drives which are in Multi-Drive mode having a Fault F71 adaptor Net Loss. All lights on the comms cards are solid green. But the drive in single drive mode has a Mod light flashing green and also showing Fault F71. It is not showing any fault on the PLC. Any idea? n


### Human: Ultra3000 fault code vs Clx Is there a way to have the fault code displayed at the front of the drive (Exx) into a plc register? I'm using a sercos card with a Clx controller. Thanks ### Assistant: No. I posed this question several months ago to Rockwell tech support and the answer was no. Not even a message instruction would retrieve the information. would the sample code How to read K6k 7 Segment Display Fault Code on RSLogix5000 work? Or is this just for Kinetic 6000? I would use this Sample code otherwise Motion Control fault capture logic and HMI screens . I have used this basic logic and converted the HMI to RSView32 as well as in FTView ME. This at lease will get you the current fault of any axis and the history. I think that the MSG to read the Sercos IDN 95 could also work for U3K... as it is related to Sercos IDentification Number, not to a particular drive.IDN 95 is related to Diagnostic of the drive and describes its status. The only limitation could be to the fact thatAll SERCOS interface products must incorporate a subset of these, but do not necessarily need to include all IDNs. Here a link to the Sercos site, with a short description of IDN. http://www.sercos.com/technology/sercos_idns.htm I can't find out a list of the IDNs supported in U3K Sercos Interface, so I think the best way is to test it on a *real* drive... :smileytongue: Also a KB note that explains this Sercos Messaging is not supported by RA phone support. :smileysad: Aid 50716 - fuzzy logic Just a little bit late... (but maybe useful to others also) :smileytongue: Have a look to the following manual to see the Sercos IDNs available in the Kinetix / Ultra drives. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/wp/m08seg-wp001_-en-p.pdf See Appendix D Thanks to atahualpa who provided the link. :smileywink: - fuzzy logic Sample Logic, AOI, and FactoryTalk View ME screen that retrieves the E code from the seven segment display of a SERCOS Ultra 3000 and stores the fault with time stamp, axis structure, and motiongroup structure in an array. History stores the last 50 faults. n


### Human: SMC-3: Bypass Rules? are there any suggested rules, when I have to use a bypass for the SMC-3?maximal coninuous operation is 18h per day. ### Assistant: Did you see technote 49481 ? - fuzzy logic n


### Human: SMC-3 series b: compressor is pulsing i have a switch cabinet for a heat pump with two compressors, I want to test it with a smaller compressor, but the smc-3 is pulsing the compressor for ca 1 minute befor continuous operation. what can I do that the start is not pulsing? using a zh21ke-tfd-524 compressor with:LRA: 27-33I-Block: 35I-oper: 7 smc-3 setting: FLA :20on-Dip: 2,3,5,11,15,16 ### Assistant: Try to take a look to Aid 40356... also this other thread if applicable... - fuzzy logic n


### Human: analog module hi fellowsi want to learn the rslogix 5000 by using rs emulator.for the digital side it works well.now i want to use analog simulation.is it possible with rs emulator i have rs emulator version 15 and also have rslogix version 15.if it is possible how can i configure the module and how i use the analog values.please help mehamad ### Assistant: RSLogix Emulate 5000 has not an Analog simulation module available... :smileysad: - fuzzy logic n


### Human: RS LOGIX 5 HI FELLOWSWHERE I DOWNLOAD THE RS LOGIX 5 DEMO VERSION OR RSLOGIX7 DEMO VERSION TO STUDY THE PLC5 SOFTWARE.OUR COMPANY USED AB6200 VERSION 4.5.OUR OLD NOTE BOOKS ARE DAMGED. AB6200 IS NOT AVAILABLE MORE SO I WANT TO DOWNLOAD THE DEMO FOR STUDY.HAMAD ### Assistant: For what I can remember, there isn't a demo CD available for RSLogix5. :smileysad: You have to contact your RA representative and ask for a Temporary Activation of that software. Demo version is only available for RSLogix 5000. - fuzzy logic n


### Human: CS3000 for Windows XP Dear All, Can we access the CS3000 application for Windows XPI have tried to communicate the FlexPak 3000 using via Windows XP butCommunication Error. I have read the CS3000 Manual. CS3000 only require for Windows 3.1, NT and 98. Thanks ### Assistant: Check to make sure your cabling is correct. I use CS3000 ver 6.14 all the time with FlexPak3000 and GV3000 drives with Windows XP Hi, if RSlinx is running a driver for your serial port, shut it down and retry Does anyone know where I can get CS3000 software? The software should be available from any A-B distributor. Also, any Reliance Electric distributor should be able to supply. Try to see at the following link for CS3000 software download: http://www.reliance.com/prodserv/standriv/d2916.htm edit: updated download link http://www.reliance.com/prodserv/standriv/CS3000.zip - fuzzy logic n


### Human: Networking Compact logix and Micrologix 1100 over ethernet I am testing a new system in which I a using explicit messaging to transfer data between a L23E and an 1100. The messaging is all set up in the RS5000 project as detailed in tech note 43384, I can see the 1100 via Linx and online with networks through RS5000 but I am not getting the values from the 1100. Have a missed a vital step in the process? ### Assistant: Also Aid 29358 contains a guided example for MSG... just double check your settings... Anyway, any error messages in MSG instruction ?Which is the firmware version of MX1100 controller ? It should be at least v5... May you post the MSG configurations or both programs to analyze ? - fuzzy logic n


### Human: CS3000 Software Does anyone know where I can get CS3000 software? ### Assistant: Try to see at the following link for CS3000 software download: http://www.reliance.com/prodserv/standriv/d2916.htm edit: updated download link http://www.reliance.com/prodserv/standriv/CS3000.zip - fuzzy logic Thank you very much. I could not seem to locate that Link. n


### Human: PLC 5/13 to Contorllogix Platform Dear All, Allen Bradley PLC 5/13 CPU is installed with Input Output Module. As PLC 5/13 is very old and now we want to upgrade the systems. As we decided to go in Control Logix Platform. ( 300 I/O's). Please confirm that Logix of PLC 5/13 will work with Control logix Platform or we have to make a New Logic for Control Logix Platform. Please guide the same. ### Assistant: Application program should be converted to be used in a ControlLogix; you may use the Translation Tool that is inside RSLogix5000; this will reduce the work you need to convert your application, leaving anyway some things to do later to complete this conversion. In the following technote you may find an useful explanation of this tool. Aid 21962 See also the Reference Manual Hope this helps... - fuzzy logic I have done a dozen plus conversions. The conversion program works well but leaves a lot of junk in the ControlLogix program. The most difficult part is converting the analog IO modules. You loose all the block transfers, move the scaling to the modules, and the numbers for the scaling are different. Also, the old memory mapping that comes threw as alias can cause a lot of confusion. Sometimes I do not let the program make addresses automatically but fix things as I go. Either way spending the time getting rid of the old aliases and learning the program better will pay of greatly in the debugging process. I have come to the conclusion that you are better to run the conversion program but use the conversion only to copy things from. I start with a blank program and put the ControlLogix IO in first. I then copy and paste sections of code that need to be used over. I find most old PLC5 programs were done as a single massive routine even though the controller allowed you to break things up. In the copy process I try and make a lost of smaller more manageable routines. Fuzzy notes a references manual. You really need to get this, print it out, and spend some time studying it before you begin. Some parts in Chapter 1 are dated and do not let them confuse you. The rest of the book is very, very useful. n


### Human: PanelView + Printing to a network PDF print converter Has anyone had any success printing PV+ displays using a networked PDF printer such as desk PDF? ### Assistant: I'd imagine that's not going to work, since there is no way to add printer drivers to a PV+ to support the PDF printer. Rule of thumb, if the printer isn't natively PCL compatible, it's not going to print (and there are even exceptions to that rule, because some printer manufacturers play fast and loose with the definition of natively PCL compatible.) JHutch Thanks for your reply. Bottom line customer wantsto save his run time displays as a file that he can open and view. Print to file capability? I can't think of a way to do that with a PV+ ... though you could use the PDF printer if you ran the ME application on a standard computer with the ME Station Runtime. Rockwell sells some industrial class computers and monitors (with touch screen capability if needed) that would probably get the job done just fine. JHutch Are the PDF's so the customer can get a status of the system?Sounds more like a data collection & reporting system would be in the way to go. Will be more $ upfront, but a good long term solution. -Mark www.theAPAKGroup.com After much hemming and hawing on the customers part we went with a higher end system to get him his reports. Thanks to all for the input. Is this something that may be acheivable with Viewpoint? Definite possibility. Since ViewPoint will allow a read-only window into the PV+ functions, you could navigate to the desired report screen then use a print screen on the computer to output to PDF. If the report requires more than goto screen buttons to access the information, though, it won't work since ViewPoint, in the first version, will not allow data entry of any kind. JHutch Thank you for the input. I do have an update for you. While this doesn't print to a pdf directly it does work. 1. Set up a network printer. Configure it to print to file.2. Configure your panelview plus to print screen to the network printer.3. Use a utility such as PCLReader to view the file. There are also conversion utilities to generate a pdf file. PCL reader can be downloaded from www.pclreader.com/ n